Pool B

Started by Ralph Turner, October 01, 2005, 02:12:36 PM

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dc_has_been

Alright, Chicago takes down WashU and finishes 8-2 and Salisbury is 8-2 too.  Throw out who they lost to and by how much and compare who they beat and who do you think deserves the final pool b bid? 
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Quote from: dc_has_been on November 13, 2010, 04:20:49 PM
Alright, Chicago takes down WashU and finishes 8-2 and Salisbury is 8-2 too.  Throw out who they lost to and by how much and compare who they beat and who do you think deserves the final pool b bid? 

Why compare who they beat when the committee considers results of games played?
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I thought I should give the selection committee a hand so here are the Top Ten Reasons the University of Chicago Maroons should be picked for the NCAA playoffs ahead of Salisbury:

10. Maroon and white - classy.  Maroon and gold - gaudy.
9.  Sea gulls??????
8.  No  self-sustaining, nuclear chain reactions currently underway at Stagg Field.
7.  On this 25th anniversary of the Super Bowl Shuffle, shouldn't one Chicago team go to the playoffs?
6.  If you are going to compete for the Stagg Bowl, preference should be given to the school where Amos Alonzo Stagg coached for 40 years.
5.  You don't want to see a lot of bad things start happening in Wicomico County.  No threat.  I'm just saying.
4.  If you're going to be on Wheel of Fortune, Chicago quarterback Marshall Oium could lend you a vowel.
3.  In close calls like this, the school with the most Heisman Trophies gets the nod.
2.  If Salisbury gets in, it will be welcome to Wicomico County Rod and Patti Blagojevich.  This is probably covered under #5 but I like saying "Wicomico."
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Pool B in 2012.  Thinking about who might be where.

LaGrange -- gone to the USA South.
Chapman -- gone to the SCIAC.


1) Findlandia -- new
2) Macalester
3) Huntingdon
4) Wesley
5-8) UAA - 4
9-10) SCAC - Trinity and Austin College
11-15) New Conference - Rhodes, Millsaps, Sewanee, BSC, Centre

I think that having 15 Pool B teams only gives 1 bid after the decimal one determines from the Access Ratio is truncated.

Frostburg State -- gone to the E8.
Salisbury -- gone to the E8.

Ron Boerger

Doesn't the SCAC get a two-year grace period to (ha, ha) get back to seven teams?   Does that apply when you only have two in the interim??

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Quote from: Ron Boerger on June 08, 2011, 12:41:06 AM
Doesn't the SCAC get a two-year grace period to (ha, ha) get back to seven teams?   Does that apply when you only have two in the interim??
I am not sure. They do not have 4 core members playing football.  I cannot recall a similar situation in D-III.

When the Dixie IAC (USA South) sponsored football, they got a Pool A bid in their first year, because an existing conference had 7 full members.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: Ron Boerger on June 08, 2011, 12:41:06 AM
Doesn't the SCAC get a two-year grace period to (ha, ha) get back to seven teams?   Does that apply when you only have two in the interim??

Yes they do, I read that in the article on DIIIfootball.com.

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Quote from: 02 Warhawk on June 08, 2011, 10:06:14 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on June 08, 2011, 12:41:06 AM
Doesn't the SCAC get a two-year grace period to (ha, ha) get back to seven teams?   Does that apply when you only have two in the interim??

Yes they do, I read that in the article on DIIIfootball.com.
So if 2012 gets here and they haven't added anyone then the winner of the Trinity-Austin game would get the AQ? That would be kind of messed up.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: Hawks88 on June 08, 2011, 11:54:21 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on June 08, 2011, 10:06:14 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on June 08, 2011, 12:41:06 AM
Doesn't the SCAC get a two-year grace period to (ha, ha) get back to seven teams?   Does that apply when you only have two in the interim??

Yes they do, I read that in the article on DIIIfootball.com.
So if 2012 gets here and they haven't added anyone then the winner of the Trinity-Austin game would get the AQ? That would be kind of messed up.

In 2012 SCAC will have five schools:

Austin
Colorado College (dropped their football program a few years ago)
Southwestern (doesn't have a football program)
Trinity
U of Dallas (Doesn't have a football program)

So I guess the answer will be: Yes. Unless they can convince CC, SW or U of D to get the funding start a football program.

That would be messed up.

Just Bill

Most conferences have a rule, though, that a certain number of schools (usually half of the total membership) need to sponsor a sport for it to be a "conference" sport. For instance, in the WIAC five schools have to play a sport before the WIAC acknowledges it as a WIAC sport and awards a championship in it.

If the SCAC has a similar rule, then football will no longer be an SCAC sponosred sport. Then Austin and Trinity would essentially be independents and would be eligible in Pool B.
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Quote from: Just Bill on June 08, 2011, 01:56:52 PM
Most conferences have a rule, though, that a certain number of schools (usually half of the total membership) need to sponsor a sport for it to be a "conference" sport. For instance, in the WIAC five schools have to play a sport before the WIAC acknowledges it as a WIAC sport and awards a championship in it.

If the SCAC has a similar rule, then football will no longer be an SCAC sponosred sport. Then Austin and Trinity would essentially be independents and would be eligible in Pool B.
The ASC uses four schools to declare a championship in a sport.

Ralph Turner

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We are awaiting the publication of the Handbook.  These appear to be the 11 10 schools in Pool B.

UAA-4
Wesley
Huntingdon
LaGrange  (going to the USA South in 2012)
Macalester
Finlandia
DePauw  (going to the NCAC in 2012)
Chapman  (gone to the SCIAC in 2011)

It looks like it is Wesley's to lose.


Thanks to dahlby for the Chapman update.