Top 25 talk

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I think this Jim Mora press conference sums up anyone who is trying to vote this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHipzGL4dwM

HA! I might bring that to Hoopsville. Well done. Well put.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Whitman	17-0	01/26 vs. Puget Sound; 01/27 vs. Pacific Lutheran
#2	585	Washington U.	14-2	01/26 at #22 Rochester; 01/28 at #13 Emory
#3	574	Wittenberg	18-0	def. DePauw, 76-64; 01/27 vs. Denison
#4	486	Whitworth	15-2	01/26 vs. Pacific Lutheran; 01/27 vs. Puget Sound
#5	480	Augustana	15-3	won at #34 Wheaton (Ill.), 86-84; 01/27 vs. Carthage
#6	461	St. John's	15-1	won at Hamline, 69-62; 01/27 at Bethel
#7	449	York (Pa.)	16-2	LOST at Frostburg State, 85-95; 01/27 vs. Marymount
#8	439	UW-Whitewater	14-4	LOST to #27 UW-Platteville, 67-84; 01/27 vs. UW-Eau Claire
#9	431	Lycoming	18-1	won at Messiah, 68-57; 01/27 at Widener
#10	399	Middlebury	14-3	01/28 at Trinity (Conn.)
#11	392	Swarthmore	15-2	01/25 vs. Washington College; 01/27 at Gettysburg
#12	321	MIT	16-2	def. Clark, 89-58; 01/27 at Emerson
#13	320	Emory	14-2	01/26 vs. Chicago; 01/28 vs. #2 Washington U.
#14	268	Wesleyan	14-4	LOST at SUNY-Purchase, 68-71; def. Farmingdale State, 86-71; 01/26 vs. Bates; 01/27 vs. Tufts
#15	241	Williams	14-4	def. St. Joseph's (Vt.), 104-49; 01/26 at Trinity (Conn.)
#16	209	Hamilton	16-1	def. Cazenovia, 96-77; 01/26 at Bowdoin; 01/27 at Colby
#17	196	Eastern Connecticut	16-2	def. Western Connecticut, 88-80; 01/27 at Plymouth State
#18	194	Illinois Wesleyan	15-3	won at Elmhurst, 93-76; 01/27 vs. North Park
#19	183	UW-Oshkosh	14-4	def. #26 UW-Stevens Point, 68-53; 01/27 at #20 UW-River Falls
#20	161	UW-River Falls	13-4	won at UW-Eau Claire, 77-63; 01/27 vs. #19 UW-Oshkosh
#21	131	Emory and Henry	17-1	won at Randolph, 85-74; 01/27 vs. Bridgewater (Va.)
#22	112	Rochester	13-3	01/26 vs. #2 Washington U.; 01/28 vs. Chicago
#23	76	John Carroll	15-3	def. Mount Union, 98-66; 01/27 at Muskingum
#24	71	Baldwin Wallace	14-4	LOST to Heidelberg, 80-82 OT; 01/27 vs. #25 Marietta
#25	54	Marietta	14-4	def. Otterbein, 87-68; 01/27 at #24 Baldwin Wallace

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	45	UW-Stevens Point	12-6	LOST at #19 UW-Oshkosh, 53-68; 01/27 at UW-La Crosse
#27	31	UW-Platteville	15-3	won at #8 UW-Whitewater, 84-67; 01/27 vs. UW-Stout
#28	28	New Jersey City	15-4	LOST at TCNJ, 60-67; won at William Paterson, 101-85; 01/27 vs. TCNJ
#29	25	Nichols	15-3	LOST at University of New England, 85-99; won at Endicott, 83-63; 01/27 at Gordon
#30	24	Franklin and Marshall	14-3	01/25 vs. Gettysburg; 01/27 at McDaniel
#31	19	Salem State	16-3	won at Massachusetts College, 88-77; 01/27 vs. Worcester State
#32	18	Nebraska Wesleyan	17-2	won at Luther, 82-70; 01/27 at Simpson
#33	17	Ramapo	14-5	LOST at Montclair State, 60-74; 01/27 vs. Kean
#34	14	Wheaton (Ill.)	13-5	LOST to #5 Augustana, 84-86; 01/27 at Millikin
#35	11	Cabrini	15-3	LOST at Neumann, 83-92; def. Cairn, 100-67; 01/27 vs. Centenary (N.J.)
#36	9	Ohio Wesleyan	13-5	def. Wabash, 88-76; 01/27 vs. Oberlin
#37	8	Hanover	14-4	def. Transylvania, 93-56; 01/27 at Bluffton
#38	6	Maryville (Tenn.)	14-4	def. Berea, 70-61
#39	5	Gwynedd Mercy	15-2	won at Keystone, 96-77; won at Rosemont, 72-71; 01/27 vs. Cairn
#40	4	Wooster	14-4	won at Hiram, 78-70 OT; 01/27 vs. DePauw
T#41	1	Juniata	15-3	def. Elizabethtown, 75-64; 01/27 vs. Catholic
T#41	1	Plattsburgh State	12-4	won at SUNY Potsdam, 99-55; 01/26 at SUNY New Paltz; 01/27 at SUNY Oneonta
T#41	1	Sul Ross State	14-4	01/25 at Concordia (Texas); 01/27 at Mary Hardin-Baylor

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

It doesn't matter what night you tune in to Division III basketball, something will surprise you. There are teams leading conferences that weren't expected to be in the conversation, there are programs who continue their record-setting starts to the season, and others who seem to be defying expectations - well, at least those outside of the locker room.

On Thursday's edition of Hoopsville, Dave chats with a few coaches who have programs currently excelling - even if they have hit some bumps in the road recently. One has his program off to the best start in a storied program's history, another is leading a conference that has it's traditional leaders off the pace a bit, a third who was never thought would be on top, and a fourth looking to try and change national minds.

There is also a coach who is doing her best to help those with communications challenges, working on diversity and inclusion, all while leading Gallaudet to bigger and better results. Stephanie Stevens is this week's WBCA Center Court guest and will talk about what drew her to the deaf and hard of hearing university and what else keeps her busy off the basketball court. Stevens was a recent honoree of the WBCA Thirty Under 30.

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[Titan Q]

Carthage 81
#5-Augustana 78

(at Augustana)

[Titan Q]

My updated Central Region ranking (games through Saturday 1/27)...

(wins over other "Top 25 candidates")

1. Wash U (15-2, 6-0 UAA) - vs Tufts, vs Ohio Northern, at Illinois Wesleyan, at Rochester
2. UW-Platteville (16-3, 6-2 WIAC) - vs UW-Oshkosh, at UW-Whitewater, at UW-River Falls
3. Illinois Wesleyan (16-3, 9-1 CCIW) - at North Central, vs Augustana
4. UW-Oshkosh (15-4, 5-3 WIAC) - vs Augustana, vs UW-River Falls
5. Augustana (15-4, 7-3 CCIW) - vs North Central, vs UW-Stevens Point (neutral), at Wash U
6. UW-Stevens Point (13-6, 7-1 WIAC) - at Buena Vista, at UW-River Falls, at UW-Whitewater, vs UW-Platteville
7. UW-River Falls (13-5, 4-4 WIAC) - at UW-Whitewater, vs UW-Platteville
8. UW-Whitewater (15-4, 5-3 WIAC) - at UW-Oshkosh
9. North Central (14-5, 7-3 CCIW) - n/a

* Wash U plays at Emory today...obviously a big one.

* With two losses this week (at home to Augustana, at Millikin) I have removed Wheaton as a Top 25 candidate.

* UW-Platteville was my big mover this week - I believe the Pioneers have the strongest Top 25 resume in the WIAC.
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WIAC Standings Through 1/27 (road wins noted)
*UW-Stevens Point 7-1  at River Falls, at Stout, at Whitewater, at La Crosse
*UW-Platteville 6-2  at Stout, at UW-Whitewater
*UW-Oshkosh 5-3  at La Crosse, at River Falls
*UW-Whitewater 5-3  at Oshkosh, at Eau Claire, at La Crosse
*UW-River Falls 4-4  at Whitewater, at Eau Claire
*UW-La Crosse 3-5  at Eau Claire, at Stout
*UW-Eau Claire 1-7  n/a
*UW-Stout 1-8  n/a

CCIW Standings Through 1/27 (road wins noted)
*Illinois Wesleyan 9-1  at Wheaton, at North Central, at North Park, at Carroll, at Elmhurst
*Augustana 7-3  at Carthage, at Elmhurst, at North Park, at Wheaton
*North Central 7-3  at North Park, at Carroll, at Millikin
*Carthage 6-3  at Illinois Wesleyan, at Millikin, at Augustana
*Wheaton 6-4  at Elmhurst, at Augustana, at Carthage
*Elmhurst 4-6  at Millikin, at North Park
*Carroll 2-7  at North Park
*Millikin 2-8 n/a
*North Park 1-9 n/a
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With 2 games less data, the Week 8 D3hoops.com Top 25 has the Central as:

#2 Wash U (585 points)
#5 Augustana (480)
#8 UW-Whitewater (439)
#18 Illinois Wesleyan (194)
#19 UW-Oshkosh (183)
#20 UW-River Falls (161)
ORV UW-Stevens Point (45)
ORV UW-Platteville (31)
ORV Wheaton (14)

Will the pollsters' love affair with #5-Augustana and #8 Whitewater relative to other CCIW/WIAC teams continue in Week 9? We shall see.

[Greek Tragedy]

Good work, Titan. One correction, Platteville didn't beat Point. Point's only conference loss is at Oshkosh this past Wednesday.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

There is a first time for everything. Right?

On Sunday's Hoopsville, Dave chats with a number of programs who have never been on the show. All of them are in conference races and yearning to position themselves well for conference tournaments. Not sure any of them were expected to be in this position.

It seems to be a theme that's pretty common of late.

At the same time, one coach has been so consistent that winning number 600 almost seemed like a forgone conclusion, but a player she has on the team now may be one of the best no one is talking about.

And what to make, again, with the men's Top 25? And who will be the last women's team(s) to stay undefeated this season? Ryan Scott joins Dave to chat in the Top 25 Double-take segment.

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[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Whitman	19-0	def. Puget Sound, 136-109; def. Pacific Lutheran, 111-77
#2	585	Washington U.	16-2	won at #22 Rochester, 77-62; won at #13 Emory, 84-67
#3	574	Wittenberg	19-0	def. DePauw, 76-64; def. Denison, 84-61
#4	486	Whitworth	17-2	def. Pacific Lutheran, 81-69; def. Puget Sound, 111-97
#5	480	Augustana	15-4	won at #34 Wheaton (Ill.), 86-84; LOST to Carthage, 78-81
#6	461	St. John's	16-1	won at Hamline, 69-62; won at Bethel, 84-80 OT
#7	449	York (Pa.)	17-2	LOST at Frostburg State, 85-95; def. Marymount, 81-58
#8	439	UW-Whitewater	15-4	LOST to #27 UW-Platteville, 67-84; def. UW-Eau Claire, 75-59
#9	431	Lycoming	18-2	won at Messiah, 68-57; LOST at Widener, 65-66
#10	399	Middlebury	15-3	won at Trinity (Conn.), 87-81
#11	392	Swarthmore	17-2	def. Washington College, 62-47; won at Gettysburg, 78-64
#12	321	MIT	17-2	def. Clark, 89-58; won at Emerson, 77-51
#13	320	Emory	15-3	def. Chicago, 71-66; LOST to #2 Washington U., 67-84
#14	268	Wesleyan	16-4	LOST at SUNY-Purchase, 68-71; def. Farmingdale State, 86-71; def. Bates, 68-50; def. Tufts, 60-52
#15	241	Williams	15-4	def. St. Joseph's (Vt.), 104-49; won at Trinity (Conn.), 75-58
#16	209	Hamilton	17-2	def. Cazenovia, 96-77; LOST at Bowdoin, 68-72; won at Colby, 76-67 OT
#17	196	Eastern Connecticut	17-2	def. Western Connecticut, 88-80; won at Plymouth State, 85-73
#18	194	Illinois Wesleyan	16-3	won at Elmhurst, 93-76; def. North Park, 87-47
#19	183	UW-Oshkosh	15-4	def. #26 UW-Stevens Point, 68-53; won at #20 UW-River Falls, 78-57
#20	161	UW-River Falls	13-5	won at UW-Eau Claire, 77-63; LOST to #19 UW-Oshkosh, 57-78
#21	131	Emory and Henry	18-1	won at Randolph, 85-74; def. Bridgewater (Va.), 90-73
#22	112	Rochester	13-5	LOST to #2 Washington U., 62-77; LOST to Chicago, 65-72
#23	76	John Carroll	15-4	def. Mount Union, 98-66; LOST at Muskingum, 103-112
#24	71	Baldwin Wallace	14-5	LOST to Heidelberg, 80-82 OT; LOST to #25 Marietta, 52-65
#25	54	Marietta	15-4	def. Otterbein, 87-68; won at #24 Baldwin Wallace, 65-52

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	45	UW-Stevens Point	13-6	LOST at #19 UW-Oshkosh, 53-68; won at UW-La Crosse, 76-62
#27	31	UW-Platteville	16-3	won at #8 UW-Whitewater, 84-67; def. UW-Stout, 86-69
#28	28	New Jersey City	16-4	LOST at TCNJ, 60-67; won at William Paterson, 101-85; def. TCNJ, 80-79
#29	25	Nichols	16-3	LOST at University of New England, 85-99; won at Endicott, 83-63; won at Gordon, 97-74
#30	24	Franklin and Marshall	16-3	def. Gettysburg, 79-53; won at McDaniel, 62-51
#31	19	Salem State	17-3	won at Massachusetts College, 88-77; def. Worcester State, 98-56
#32	18	Nebraska Wesleyan	17-3	won at Luther, 82-70; LOST at Simpson, 97-102 OT
#33	17	Ramapo	15-5	LOST at Montclair State, 60-74; def. Kean, 82-67
#34	14	Wheaton (Ill.)	13-6	LOST to #5 Augustana, 84-86; LOST at Millikin, 75-94
#35	11	Cabrini	16-3	LOST at Neumann, 83-92; def. Cairn, 100-67; def. Centenary (N.J.), 92-64
#36	9	Ohio Wesleyan	14-5	def. Wabash, 88-76; def. Oberlin, 78-71
#37	8	Hanover	15-4	def. Transylvania, 93-56; won at Bluffton, 71-70
#38	6	Maryville (Tenn.)	14-4	def. Berea, 70-61
#39	5	Gwynedd Mercy	16-2	won at Keystone, 96-77; won at Rosemont, 72-71; def. Cairn, 81-67
#40	4	Wooster	15-4	won at Hiram, 78-70 OT; def. DePauw, 65-57
T#41	1	Juniata	16-3	def. Elizabethtown, 75-64; def. Catholic, 70-62
T#41	1	Plattsburgh State	14-4	won at SUNY Potsdam, 99-55; won at SUNY New Paltz, 100-71; won at SUNY Oneonta, 97-60
T#41	1	Sul Ross State	15-5	LOST at Concordia (Texas), 94-95; won at Mary Hardin-Baylor, 97-95

[deiscanton]

It looks like no one decided to give Wash U a #1 vote this week.

Looking forward to the rematch with Emory on Sunday.

Update:  Also looking forward to the rematch with Rochester on Friday as well.

[deiscanton]

It looks like no one decided to give Wash U a #1 vote this week.

Looking forward to the rematch with Emory on Sunday.

I initially posted this quote in the UAA Men's Basketball page-- at least, I believe that I did so.  A little discussion ensued, but I did enjoy the discussion on Wash U v Whitman with d-mac and Ryan Scott on Hoopsville a few days ago.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I should be sharing the segment on here, but I keep forgetting to do it. Here is this week's Hoopsville Top 25 Double-take segment: https://youtu.be/_a6vFTt7vZU?t=1h52m18s

[Smitty Oom]

I should be sharing the segment on here, but I keep forgetting to do it. Here is this week's Hoopsville Top 25 Double-take segment: https://youtu.be/_a6vFTt7vZU?t=1h52m18s

I really love these segments!

You guys talked about Plattsburgh State, but didn't mention that their best player and probably the best player in the SUNYAC Jon Patron sat out the first semester this year. This is when the Cardinals lost most of their games. Not saying that this makes their resume look better in the eyes of the NCAA, but definitely does give them a reason for some of the losses you noted.

Also Dave, St. John's as your "Deep Dive"? Maryville (TN) was a good one but I had to give you a little crap about having a top 5 team as your deep dive. 

With that said, maybe you guys could add a 4th D "Disagree." Dave could Disagree on the ranking of SJU or Emory as he had those teams higher than the poll did. You could also disagree on the poll having Augustana higher than IWU, which has been a big debate in the CCIW recently. I get there is definitely some overlap with "Disagree" but it does open up some leeway in what you guys talk about.

Just an idea, not telling you how to do your job but I wanted to share this with you guys!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

We don't want to necessarily "disagree" with other pollsters. We are two pollsters and there are 23 others. I don't want them to think we are telling them how to vote or even think we are stirring things. I think the deep dive, debate, and dubious do the "disagreeing" while not actually disagreeing. You might have to read between the lines. LOL

Yeah, I didn't have as much time to research my choices this week. Hoping to carve out more time moving forward. My Deep Dive did come with a caveat... I am voting for them, but not sure if others aren't voting high enough - i.e. St. John's. Technically deep dive should be teams not getting votes that Ryan and I notice, but that well is already running dry. LOL

[sac]

So IWU ahead of Augustana now right?

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Whitman	19-0	02/02 at Lewis and Clark; 02/03 at Pacific
#2	589	Washington U.	16-2	02/02 vs. T#42 Rochester; 02/04 vs. #15 Emory
#3	574	Wittenberg	20-0	def. Kenyon, 78-63; 02/03 at Oberlin
#4	524	St. John's	18-1	def. Gustavus Adolphus, 76-54; def. Concordia-Moorhead, 86-72; 02/03 at St. Olaf
#5	510	Whitworth	17-2	02/02 at Pacific; 02/03 at Lewis and Clark
#6	488	Middlebury	16-3	won at T#42 Keene State, 84-78; 02/02 vs. Bowdoin; 02/03 vs. Colby
#7	463	Swarthmore	17-3	LOST at Muhlenberg, 88-91 OT; 02/03 vs. McDaniel
#8	415	MIT	17-3	LOST to Babson, 71-84 OT; 02/03 vs. Wheaton (Mass.)
#9	368	Augustana	16-4	def. #14 Illinois Wesleyan, 88-79; 02/03 at Carroll
#10	351	York (Pa.)	18-2	def. Wesley, 76-64; 02/03 vs. Southern Virginia
#11	310	Lycoming	19-2	def. Alvernia, 79-66; 02/03 vs. Arcadia
#12	309	UW-Whitewater	15-5	LOST at #25 UW-Stevens Point, 60-74; 02/03 at UW-Stout
#13	299	Williams	16-4	won at SUNY Oneonta, 75-56; 02/02 vs. Colby; 02/03 vs. Bowdoin
#14	279	Illinois Wesleyan	16-4	LOST at #9 Augustana, 79-88
#15	277	Emory	15-3	02/02 at Chicago; 02/04 at #2 Washington U.
#16	269	Eastern Connecticut	18-2	def. Trinity (Conn.), 72-56; 02/03 vs. Mass-Boston
#17	261	Wesleyan	16-4	02/02 at Trinity (Conn.)
#18	222	UW-Oshkosh	15-5	LOST to #20 UW-Platteville, 62-68; 02/03 vs. UW-Eau Claire
#19	210	Emory and Henry	18-2	LOST at Roanoke, 68-76; 02/03 at Lynchburg
#20	198	UW-Platteville	17-3	won at #18 UW-Oshkosh, 68-62; 02/03 at UW-La Crosse
#21	148	Hamilton	17-2	02/02 at Bates; 02/03 at Tufts
#22	106	Marietta	16-4	def. Mount Union, 80-71; 02/03 vs. Heidelberg
#23	50	Franklin and Marshall	17-3	def. Ursinus, 80-74; 02/03 vs. Muhlenberg
#24	40	UW-River Falls	14-5	def. UW-La Crosse, 77-74 OT; 02/03 at #25 UW-Stevens Point
#25	29	UW-Stevens Point	14-6	def. #12 UW-Whitewater, 74-60; 02/03 vs. #24 UW-River Falls

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	25	Salem State	18-3	won at Fitchburg State, 93-85; 02/03 vs. Framingham State
T#27	23	Gwynedd Mercy	16-3	LOST at T#40 Cabrini, 88-92; 02/03 at Lehman
T#27	23	New Jersey City	17-4	won at Kean, 75-63; 02/03 vs. Rowan
#29	22	John Carroll	16-4	won at Otterbein, 97-71; 02/03 vs. Wilmington
#30	21	Wooster	16-4	won at Oberlin, 89-59; 02/03 vs. Denison
#31	16	Nichols	17-3	def. Curry, 94-69; 02/03 vs. University of New England
#32	15	Ohio Wesleyan	14-6	LOST at Denison, 62-83; 02/03 vs. Kenyon
#33	14	Hanover	15-5	LOST at Rose-Hulman, 66-68 OT; 02/03 vs. Anderson
#34	10	Hobart	16-3	def. RPI, 77-69; 02/02 vs. St. Lawrence; 02/03 vs. Clarkson
T#35	9	Juniata	17-3	def. Susquehanna, 75-66; 02/03 at Scranton
T#35	9	Maryville (Tenn.)	14-5	LOST at Covenant, 73-80; 02/02 at William Peace
#37	8	Plattsburgh State	15-4	def. SUNY-Canton, 88-58; 02/02 vs. Oswego State; 02/03 vs. Cortland
T#38	4	Baldwin Wallace	14-6	LOST at Ohio Northern, 74-85 OT; 02/03 vs. Otterbein
T#38	4	Occidental	16-2	02/03 at Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
T#40	3	Cabrini	17-3	def. T#27 Gwynedd Mercy, 92-88; 02/03 vs. TBD
T#40	3	TCNJ	16-5	LOST to Rowan, 84-93; 02/03 at Ramapo
T#42	1	Keene State	14-6	LOST to #6 Middlebury, 78-84; 02/03 vs. Rhode Island College
T#42	1	Rochester	13-5	02/02 at #2 Washington U.; 02/04 at Chicago