Pool C

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Just keep in mind, while you had the Drew vRRO tabulated, the NCAA hasn't as of yet. So, I was referring to the data that still needs to change. But it could still change. Drew may fall out of the rankings (for all we know).

And that isn't helping the cause in my opinion. The committee looks at the vRRO and sees two teams. One team out of conference. That hurts Scranton's resume.

.525 is what Matt Snyder has calculated. I don't know what the NCAA has. I don't know what it will be come Sunday.

I've had Scranton as a "win the AQ or season done" team for a few weeks now. When the RAC kept putting them below the CAC blockade, it was a sign.

[Titan Q]

Here is what I have as of Saturday morning...filed from Quad City International Airport.

Data Sources
http://www.fantastic50.net/d3h_men.html

https://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

Locks
1. Williams: .800, 20-5/.592/6-4
2. Amherst: .840, 21-4/.559/6-3
3. UW-Oshkosh: .885, 23-3/.543/3-3
4. St. Thomas: .846, 22-4/.532/4-1
5. Loras: .808, 21-5/.574/2-1
6. Marietta: .769, 20-6/.549/6-4
7. York (Pa): .778, 21-6/.549/6-3
8. Rochester: .883, 20-4/.529/5-1
9. MIT: .846, 22-4/.554/1-0
10. New Jersey City: .741, 20-7/.552/6-6
11. Capital: .741, 20-7/.545/6-4
12. Wittenberg: .808, 21-5/.533/5-3
13. Plattsburgh State: .792/.530/6-5
14. Middlebury: .708, 17-7/.599/4-5

Round 15
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.569/8-5
(C) North Central: .808, 21-5/.528/4-3
(E) Brockport: .630, 17-10/.551/5-4
(GL) Wabash: .792, 19-5/.524/2-3
(MA) Salisbury: .704/.575/4-7
(NE) Eastern Connecticut: .769, 20-6/.549/2-4
(S) Washington & Lee: .731, 19-7/.534/5-4
(W) Whitworth: .808, 21-5/.529/1-2

Round 16
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.569/8-5
(C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.572/4-5
(E) Brockport: .630, 17-10/.551/5-4
(GL) Wabash: .792, 19-5/.524/2-3
(MA) Salisbury: .704/.575/4-7
(NE) Eastern Connecticut: .769, 20-6/.549/2-4
(S) Washington & Lee: .731, 19-7/.534/5-4
(W) Whitworth: .808, 21-5/.529/1-2

Round 17
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.569/8-5
(C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.572/4-5
(E) Brockport: .630, 17-10/.551/5-4
(GL) Wabash: .792, 19-5/.524/2-3
(MA) Johns Hopkins: .680, 17-8/.560/2-4
(NE) Eastern Connecticut: .769, 20-6/.549/2-4
(S) Washington & Lee: .731, 19-7/.534/5-4
(W) Whitworth: .808, 21-5/.529/1-2

Round 18
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.569/8-5
(C) Illinois Wesleyan: .667, 18-9/.569/2-8
(E) Brockport: .630, 17-10/.551/5-4
(GL) Wabash: .792, 19-5/.524/2-3
(MA) Johns Hopkins: .680, 17-8/.560/2-4
(NE) Eastern Connecticut: .769, 20-6/.549/2-4
(S) Washington & Lee: .731, 19-7/.534/5-4
(W) Whitworth: .808, 21-5/.529/1-2

Round 19
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.569/8-5
(C) Illinois Wesleyan: .667, 18-9/.569/2-8
(E) Brockport: .630, 17-10/.551/5-4
(GL) Wabash: .792, 19-5/.524/2-3
(MA) Johns Hopkins: .680, 17-8/.560/2-4
(NE) Gordon: .852, 23-4/.506/2-2
(S) Washington & Lee: .731, 19-7/.534/5-4
(W) Whitworth: .808, 21-5/.529/1-2

Round 20
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.569/8-5
(C) Illinois Wesleyan: .667, 18-9/.569/2-8
(E) Brockport: .630, 17-10/.551/5-4
(GL) Wabash: .792, 19-5/.524/2-3
(MA) Johns Hopkins: .680, 17-8/.560/2-4
(NE) Gordon: .852, 23-4/.506/2-2
(S) Guilford: .731, 19-7/.532/3-4
(W) Whitworth: .808, 21-5/.529/1-2

[Greek Tragedy]

You aren't staying for the CCIW championship game?

[Titan Q]

You aren't staying for the CCIW championship game?

Blizzard conditions warning in Quad Cities tomorrow morning (flight originally scheduled tomorrow for 7:20am)...uh, no.

[Ralph Turner]

Here is what I have as of Saturday morning...filed from Quad City International Airport.

Wow!  Are you getting revenue for product placement ads from Quad Cities International Airport?

[kiko]

Here is what I have as of Saturday morning...filed from Quad City International Airport.

Wow!  Are you getting revenue for product placement ads from Quad Cities International Airport?

I've been to that airport.  The "international" part amuses me.

[kiko]

Something to file away for next year...

With more, smaller regions, we will need to re-learn how VRRO impacts regional rankings and national selections.  Today, for instance, when I see eight or more VRRO results, I know that is a bigger-than-average number.

If a similar number of teams per region are ranked, we will see more regionally ranked teams, and therefore more VRRO results.

If we see a smaller number of teams per region ranked, what I think will happen is that there will be, in most cases, fewer conference matchups for which you get credit for VRRO games.  In regions where third- and fourth-place teams in a conference are getting ranked in the lower slots of the rankings, these slots would not exist so these games would not be VRRO games.  The WIAC and CCIW are two conferences I can think of who have benefitted from their depth in the past from the standpoint of getting credit for more VRRO games; I'm sure there are others in regions I pay less attention to.  If the number of regionally ranked slots is reduced, you will need to schedule more of these games out of conference to boost the number of VRRO opponents on your CV.

[fantastic50]

The references to Drew University are giving me a headache trying to follow the conversation, as I catch up on this thread. 

[BobbyO]

You aren't staying for the CCIW championship game?

Blizzard conditions warning in Quad Cities tomorrow morning (flight originally scheduled tomorrow for 7:20am)...uh, no.

Nice to meet you face to face last night. Looking forward to mock pick show.

[Titan Q]

Nice to meet you face to face last night. Looking forward to mock pick show.

You too, BobbyO!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Something to file away for next year...

With more, smaller regions, we will need to re-learn how VRRO impacts regional rankings and national selections.  Today, for instance, when I see eight or more VRRO results, I know that is a bigger-than-average number.

If a similar number of teams per region are ranked, we will see more regionally ranked teams, and therefore more VRRO results.

If we see a smaller number of teams per region ranked, what I think will happen is that there will be, in most cases, fewer conference matchups for which you get credit for VRRO games.  In regions where third- and fourth-place teams in a conference are getting ranked in the lower slots of the rankings, these slots would not exist so these games would not be VRRO games.  The WIAC and CCIW are two conferences I can think of who have benefitted from their depth in the past from the standpoint of getting credit for more VRRO games; I'm sure there are others in regions I pay less attention to.  If the number of regionally ranked slots is reduced, you will need to schedule more of these games out of conference to boost the number of VRRO opponents on your CV.

I'm assuming they'd use the same ratios of teams per region to number of ranked teams, so there probably won't be a huge overall change - maybe just some rounding up in some areas.  I know the goal is to more evenly distribute the teams across regions.

[Gregory Sager]

Here is what I have as of Saturday morning...filed from Quad City International Airport.

Wow!  Are you getting revenue for product placement ads from Quad Cities International Airport?

I've been to that airport.  The "international" part amuses me.

Bob doesn't mind traveling via crop-dusters, I guess.

[Titan Q]

Wittenberg defeats Wooster.  Witt earns the AQ...Wooster to Pool C.

I don't see this as a big Pool C impact, as I had Witt safely in as a Pool C.  Just a swap.

Big hosting impact though.  Witt probably now a first weekend host...and Wooster gets to enjoy a bus ride to Rock Island, IL?

[wooscotsfan]

Wittenberg defeats Wooster.  Witt earns the AQ...Wooster to Pool C.

I don't see this as a big Pool C impact, as I had Witt safely in as a Pool C.  Just a swap.

Big hosting impact though.  Witt probably now a first weekend host...and Wooster gets to enjoy a bus ride to Rock Island, IL?

A bus ride to any NCAA site is better than no bus ride at all (see IWU this year).  BTW, who did Illinois Wesleyan lose to last year in the NCAA tourney?

[Titan Q]

Wittenberg defeats Wooster.  Witt earns the AQ...Wooster to Pool C.

I don't see this as a big Pool C impact, as I had Witt safely in as a Pool C.  Just a swap.

Big hosting impact though.  Witt probably now a first weekend host...and Wooster gets to enjoy a bus ride to Rock Island, IL?

A bus ride to any NCAA site is better than no bus ride at all (see IWU this year).  BTW, who did Illinois Wesleyan lose to last year in the NCAA tourney?

Are you thinking that I am attacking your team or what is the deal here? Confused.