BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

Browneagle64 · May 03, 2008, 08:33:30 PM

Outstanding Job by the stags today against the Pups. According to the SCIAC website, the stags won against the pups by a score of :Redlands 18 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 23.

pomonaalum · May 03, 2008, 10:10:49 PM

Congrats to ULV, SCIAC champs. Swept the Hens, and CMS took 2 of 3 from Redlands. The final of the CLU-ULV game doesn't matter, as ULV is 16-4, and Redlands finishes at 15-6. Hens really faded down the stretch, losing their final 6 in SCIAC play, and 8 out of 9 overall...

EastCoastStag · May 03, 2008, 10:21:47 PM

Offensive show at Redlands today. Nice job Stags to finish off the season.

Ralph Turner · May 03, 2008, 10:52:38 PM

I have Redlands in-region at 20-8. 15-6 in the SCIAC.

West Region wins: TLU x 3, Chapman, UPS
West Region losses: Chapman x2.

La Sierra is only year-2 provisional, so those games do not count this year.

beachlover · May 03, 2008, 11:12:54 PM

Congratulations to La Verne 2008 SCIAC Champions. What an exciting year for the SCIAC to come down to the final Saturday's games. This is a very competitive conference with several very good teams.

Good Luck LV in the tourney.

Jack Parkman · May 04, 2008, 10:38:14 PM

Holy cow what a finish in the SCIAC. Claremont M-S really screwed Redlands over this weekend, Pomona screwed themselves in the past 2 weeks and La Verne took care of business. Pomona drops from a Pool A bid to 4th place in 6 games, yikes

Browneagle64 · May 05, 2008, 11:12:15 AM

What a finish indeed J.P.

Great job to the Leo's and co. on their very strong performance on friday and saturday. This team truly came into the weekend looking to take care of business and walked away with a time of their lives on the sandlot.
I hope this attitude from the Leo's can be carried over to the West regional's so that they can represent the SCIAC during the big dance. Best of luck.

btw, here's a link from the U.L.V website summarizing the big weekend's event:
http://www.ulv.edu/athletics/teams/newsitem.phtml?u_id=1771&sport=5

Now back to finding a poster that is probabily eating some crow for my predicitions these past two weekend.

beachlover · May 07, 2008, 12:23:21 AM

Has the SCIAC ever sent two teams to the playoffs?

Not saying that Redlands merits consideration, but in conversation with some SCIAC folks over the weekend the general thoughts were that the SCIAC is a winners only conference when it comes to post season play.

Also wonder if the "veterans" think Chapman helps or hurts the SCIAC? Heard some discussion that since Chapman is such a strong independent that consistently beats many of the SCIAC teams, it hurts the conference. Does a win against Chapman help a SCIAC team in rankings or post season consideration?

Ralph Turner · May 07, 2008, 01:13:15 AM

I think that winning one of three from Chapman gets attention, but you cannot blow it in the regular season of the SCIAC.

beachlover · May 07, 2008, 01:20:02 AM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2008, 01:13:15 AM
I think that winning one of three from Chapman gets attention, but you cannot blow it in the regular season of the SCIAC.

Thanks Ralph. I think I should have stated my question differently so that the connection to this year wasn't called into play since it's a moot point. Regardless of this season, has the SCIAC ever earned two spots in the tourney? And, would winning or losing games against Chapman affect a potential post season invite for non-winners in the conference?

Ralph Turner · May 07, 2008, 08:35:06 AM

Quote from: beachlover on May 07, 2008, 01:20:02 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2008, 01:13:15 AM
I think that winning one of three from Chapman gets attention, but you cannot blow it in the regular season of the SCIAC.

Thanks Ralph. I think I should have stated my question differently so that the connection to this year wasn't called into play since it's a moot point. Regardless of this season, has the SCIAC ever earned two spots in the tourney? And, would winning or losing games against Chapman affect a potential post season invite for non-winners in the conference?

Under the Pool system, since about 2000, I do not think that the SCIAC has earned a Pool C bid. I don't have time to look, but here is the link to the Playoff websites.

Playoffs

I really think that the SCIAC runner-up has about 1.5-2 in-region losses too many when the committee evaluates the 14 Pool C bids comparing across the nation. If the team that is first up for the Pool C consideration had 1.5-2.0 fewer in-region losses, then they might have won the Pool A bid. I think that that is how close the remaining 7 teams on the table were when they fell to Pool C, all across D3.

I really believe that the line is so fine, that the team lost a game that it should not have lost may be the game that keeps them out of Pool C. (Like I said, 1.5-2.0 fewer losses.) Pool C is where those teams that were going to win the conference in regular season fall and still make the playoffs, e.g., UT-Tyler or Wooster.

I think that the SCIAC is a very good conference. It is so balanced at the top, that three teams were in contention for the Pool A bid in the last weekend of the season. Thanks.

Browneagle64 · May 07, 2008, 02:49:53 PM

Hey Beachlover, Ralph is correct, the SCIAC has never sent two teams (one via pool c) to the big dance since 2000. From my days as an undergrad at Oxy and as an avid tiger/SCIAC baseball fan, i have always witnessed that the only team out of the SCIAC that adavance to the big dance is always the SCIAC champs. Of course it would be awesome to send two of the top SCIAC teams to represent at the regional, however, as already mentioned the in-regions losses really hurt any SCIAC teams chances of reaching that big stage. Imagine sending the 01' Cal Who team with the 01' Pomona team, or the 02' Cal who team with La Verne/ or the Hens (by now you guys should know who was in Cal Who strong pitching rotation)

beachlover · May 07, 2008, 11:57:56 PM

Thanks Ralph and Browneagle. It seems that the SCIAC is always very competitive with one or two wins separating the first and second place teams. To the winners go the spoils.

beachlover · May 08, 2008, 11:48:11 PM

So, Redlands is ranked #5 in the regional rankings today; La Verne is not ranked. Is it usual for the conference champ not to be ranked? I know Redlands took 2 of 3 head to head, but it seems unusual to me, but what do I know? (That was rhetorical, no need to answer).

Are there any implications for post season play for Redlands? I had assumed the Bulldogs/SCIAC were totally out of it.

Ralph Turner · May 09, 2008, 12:13:36 AM

Quote from: beachlover on May 08, 2008, 11:48:11 PM
So, Redlands is ranked #5 in the regional rankings today; La Verne is not ranked. Is it usual for the conference champ not to be ranked? I know Redlands took 2 of 3 head to head, but it seems unusual to me, but what do I know? (That was rhetorical, no need to answer).

Are there any implications for post season play for Redlands? I had assumed the Bulldogs/SCIAC were totally out of it.

I think that Redlands will be on the table when the 14th bid is given.

Keep the faith!