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Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 02, 2005, 02:47:18 AM
C'mon, D3 teams ... gotta climb back to the .500 mark against NAIA-2. :-)

I wonder if we're going to have to rely upon Nebraska Wesleyan to do most of the heavy lifting in that regard, considering their conference schedule?
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2005, 09:17:34 AM
Asbury (NAIA 2) 76, Thomas More 74
Colorado Coll. 84, Colorado-Colorado Springs (D2) 82
Geneva (NAIA 2) 125, Westminster, PA 116
North Georgia (NAIA 1) 113, Piedmont 94
Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 86, Waynesburg 69
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2005, 09:50:07 AM
Greg: D3 teams have done much better against NAIA 2 opponents over the past three years than they have this year.

2002  118-58 (.670)
2003  92-60 (.605)
2004  93-62 (.600)
2005  64-69 (.481)

Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 03, 2005, 02:25:45 AM
That's what I was thinking, Rhodes. I wrote down your year-by-year totals when you posted them here at the end of last season.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Old School on February 03, 2005, 02:35:32 AM
That 2-60 record against D1 schools really has to improve too...that's pathetic. :-)
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2005, 09:45:12 AM
Old School: The 2-60 record for this year is similar to the numbers for the previous three years.  

2002...1-53
2003...3-54
2004...2-61

I don't see D3 doing much better against D1 in the near term. D1 teams that are vulnerable against a good (or even average) D3 team tend to downgrade opponents or even drop D3 schools entirely.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2005, 09:49:40 AM
Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 87, Thiel 81
Morningside (NAIA 2) 76, Nebraska Wesleyan 69
St. Joseph's (L.I.) 70, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 64
Virginia Wesleyan 89, Newport News (USCAA) 74
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 04, 2005, 09:37:59 AM
Chapman 91, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 51
Lincoln 112, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA) 48
Marywood 79, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 67
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 06, 2005, 11:22:48 AM
Nebraska Wesleyan 57, Dakota Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 54
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2005, 09:30:24 AM
Carson-Newman (D2) 92, Maryville, TN 85
Huntingdon 78, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA) 58
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 09, 2005, 09:10:10 AM
Chowan 88, Newport News (USCAA) 75
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mike Dougherty aka Knightstalker on February 09, 2005, 11:31:43 PM
NJCU 91, Briarcliff (USCAA) 49
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2005, 09:29:06 AM
Huntingdon 76, Carver Bible (NCCAA) 38
Lincoln 76, Wilmington, DE (D2) 58
Rockford 61, Trinity International (NAIA 2) 59
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: jbergman on February 10, 2005, 02:00:28 PM
Question for "seasoned" historians: When did most D1's decide to discontinue scheduling D3's? My recollection of 25-30 years ago is that many D1's would schedule a D3 each year.  Nowadays, only 55-60 D1's will play D3's.  I assume that it's because D1's see no value (only downside possibly) re: their D1 RPI index or possible NCAA bid.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2005, 03:49:42 PM
I believe there were more D1 vs. D3 matchups in the past, but I haven't seen any documentation on the matter. Right now, there's absolutely no benefit for a D1 team to take on a D3 team. A trend I have noticed in recent years is that weak D1s (Army, American, Albany, Binghamton, Columbia, Lafayette, Lehigh, etc.) are now either facing weaker D3s or not playing them at all.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 11, 2005, 10:35:51 AM
D3 vs.

D1....2-60
D2....9-47
NAIA 1....16-22
NAIA 2....66-70
NCCAA....35-6
USCAA....67-8
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hoops Fan on February 11, 2005, 10:55:29 AM
Isn't that the same trend that is affecting the record vs NAIA-II?  There is very little reason for a D-III school to schedule an NAIA-II.  The games don't count in the regional rankings or records and if they lose, its almost always considered an upset.  It seems like, for the most part, the higher end of D-III teams has stopped scheduling NAIA-II schools except where it is a geographical necessity.  Rhodes can probably check on that from year to year.  Maybe D-III is just having a down year (a possibility discussed at length early on in the season).
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Scott Fendley on February 11, 2005, 11:15:40 AM
I do know Wabash once played Ball State, Houston, Arkansas, and UTEP in one strech in 1973-74. The next year they played Miami of Ohio, New Orleans, Centenary (with Robert Parish) and Cincinnati.  

Wabash was also in a conference with Evansville, Butler and Valpo.

When Mac Petty got there he stopped that silliness for the most part, but when they won the title in 1982 they had four losses - three to Louisiana Tech, Texas A & I (now D-2 Texas A & M - Kingsville (Go Javelinas!)) and Texas - San Antonio.

The last time we played a D-1 team was Butler in 1988. It just makes no sense here - there's plenty of D-3 schools to play and there's plenty of D-1 schools for the D-1 schools to play.  

(Message edited by SmedIndy on February 11, 2005)
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2005, 02:17:25 PM
Hoops Fan: There are a fair number of D3 schools that play NAIA 2 schools year in and year out. Many of those games are traditional rivalries. I think those games will continue to be played.  

I don't know if the top D3 teams are playing less games against NAIA 2 teams or not. If they are, it could be do to geographic reasons more than anything else. Plus, I think that D3 and NAIA 2 are more evenly matched than you believe.


Scott Fendley: I think that in the '70s and early '80s quite a few D3 schools played multiple games against D1 opponents, and more against D2 teams as well.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2005, 02:23:31 PM
Central 77, Faith Baptist (NCCAA) 64
Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 80, Wesley 78
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on February 14, 2005, 10:18:16 PM
Rhodes, I have long been in awe at your ability to find and post and keep track of these scores.  For the last week or so, I've been chasing scores of the more obscure D3 (vs. D3) games, and I have a little taste of what it must be like to maintain this board.  I have to admit that I grossly underestimated what you do.  I'd have said it was impossible if I didn't see it right in front of me every day.  Bravo and thanks, we truly appreciate what you do for us.  
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2005, 09:52:17 AM
David: Thanks for the kind words. I've always found this topic interesting. On certain days a fair amount of work is involved, while on others it's pretty easy. I'm glad this forum is available and there are people out there who enjoy the board.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2005, 09:59:28 AM
Johnson State 91, Paul Smith's (USCAA) 57
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 21, 2005, 02:09:58 PM
Colorado College 59, Western State (D2) 57
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 21, 2005, 02:13:11 PM
Lincoln 97, Newport News (USCAA) 69
Nebraska Wesleyan 90, Hastings (NAIA 2) 68
UW-Whitewater 100, Rob. Morris-Spring. (USCAA) 63
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 22, 2005, 09:35:22 AM
Fisk 91, Crichton (NCCAA) 74
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 23, 2005, 09:22:05 AM
Northern Colorado (D2) 83, Colorado College 67
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on February 23, 2005, 09:24:33 AM
I was rather surprised to see that score on the ESPN scroll last night.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Scott Fendley on February 23, 2005, 10:45:12 AM
Northern Colorado is beginning its migration to D-1. Plays mostly a D-1 schedule and is included in the RPI. I guess they needed a game.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 23, 2005, 12:59:26 PM
Scott: You're right. I forgot that Northern Colorado is D1 provisional. I keep thinking of them as D2 because they were a D2 powerhouse in football. I'll classify them as D1 for the next won-lost totals.

I believe North Dakota State, South Dakota State and UC-Davis are D1 provisionals as well.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Scott Fendley on February 23, 2005, 01:18:20 PM
Yes, those four, Utah Valley State, and Longwood are the newbies on the D-1 block.

UC-Davis will join the Big West soon. I do not know where the others will land, but a low-major reshuffling of the Big Sky / Mid Con / Southland may ensue to try to include most of the independents.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 28, 2005, 04:24:52 PM
Finlandia was incorrectly classified as USCAA at the beginning of the season. All three of those games have been eliminated from the new totals.
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 28, 2005, 04:30:05 PM
D3 vs.  

D1....2-61
D2....10-47
NAIA 1....16-22
NAIA 2....67-70
NCCAA....37-7
USCAA....68-7
Title: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2005, 07:26:59 AM
Thanks again for another season of logging these games, Rhodes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: P-Ville Hoops Man on November 01, 2005, 10:44:41 AM
New D3 versus D1 game to add.  20th ranked UW-Platteville @ UW-Milwaukee this friday.  Do the reigning WIAC champs stand a chance against a Sweet Sixteen team coached by a former Pioneer (Rob Jeter).  It'll be interesting to find out won't it.  I'm predicting Pioneers by a lot...or losing by 20...one way or the other.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 01, 2005, 01:37:49 PM
Isn't that an exhibition, though?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 01, 2005, 01:39:55 PM

Yeah, it won't count in Rhodes' standings (if Rhodes is doing standings again) but its always nice to mention and see how our d3 schools do against the pay-for-play competition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 02, 2005, 06:42:05 AM
The first "official" D3 Exhibition vs a "D1" opponent was played last night as Ripon was downed by UW Green Bay 97-81.  These games will be played thru the 17th of November, and are one of the 25 allowable games for D3 schools, but do not count in the schools' records.  According to the small writeup in the MWC room, Ripon was up 1 at half!!  No games tonite that I'm aware of, but activity picks up on Thursday the 3rd.  Here is a list I've compiled of these games - not sure whether our scoreboard here will include them- I probably have missed a few
11/1/2005   A   Ripon   MWC-MW-D3   81   H   UW Green Bay   D1   97
11/3/2005   A   Blackburn   SLIAC-MW-D3      H   Western Illinois   D1   
11/3/2005   A   Illinois Wesleyan   CCIW-MW-D3      H   Illinois   D1   
11/5/2005   A   Whitman   NWC-West-D3      H   Utah      D1   
11/5/2005   A   Puget Sound   NWC-West-D3      H   San Jose   D1   
11/5/2005   A   DePauw   SCAC-South-D3      H   Evansville   D1   
11/5/2005   A   UW River Falls   WIAC-West-D3      H   Wisconsin   D1   
11/5/2005   A   Capital   OAC-GL-D3      H   Valparaiso   D1   
11/8/2005   A   UW Platteville   WIAC-West-D3      H   UW Milwaukee   D1   
11/9/2005   A   UW Stout   WIAC-West-D3      H   UW Green Bay   D1   
11/9/2005   A   Wartburg   IIAC      H   Iowa   D1   
11/9/2005   A   Defiance   HCAC-MW-D3      H   Wright St   D1   
11/11/2005   A   Johns Hopkins   CC-MA-D3      H   Loyola Md   D1   
11/11/2005   A   Muskingum   OAC-Gl-D3      H   Kent State   D1   
11/12/2005   A   Greensboro   USAC-South-D3      H   High Point   D1   
11/12/2005   T   Concordia Dallas   ASCW-South-D3      T   UTSA   D1   
11/12/2005   A   Medgar Evers   CUNY-Atl-D3      H   Iona   D1   
11/12/2005   A   Piedmont   GSAC-South-D3      H   Troy   D1   
11/14/2005   A   Maryville Mo   SLIAC-MW-D3      H   St Louis   D1   
11/14/2005   A   UW Whitewater   SLIAC-MW-D3      H   Marquette   D1   
11/14/2005   A   Lawrence   MWC-MW-D3      H   Wisconsin   D1   
11/16/2005   A   Lewis&Clark   NWC-West-D3      H   Oregon St   D1   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 02, 2005, 12:37:34 PM
Sounds like a good showing for Ripon.  Green Bay isn't a top level squad, but they are usually solid.  I think 16 points is pretty respectable.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 02, 2005, 09:12:52 PM
According to later posts on the MWC board, it was even more impressive: Ripon was up 2 about half-way through the second half!  A huge discrepancy in foul calls (and 2 technicals) doomed Ripon - though (to their credit) the posters did NOT use officiating as an excuse, admitting that the size and athleticism differential may have forced Ripon to ACTUALLY foul more to stay in the game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: True Basketball Fan on November 03, 2005, 12:02:42 AM
Nice job, hopefan person.

I see that Puget Sound/San Jose game being the best possible upset. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on November 03, 2005, 09:31:44 AM
I still see ABSOLUTLEY no reason that D3 teams should be playing these games.  You play a game that counts against your 25 but does not count in any other way.  You get $2000 (maybe) and you lose.

Yeah maybe it's fun to play against a D1 and play close for a while, but what is the point?  Schedule a tough D3 game if you want to play a very talented team in a game that means something.

If the NCAA wants to go making legislation, they ought to ban D3 vs D1 games.  I just don't see the point.

C
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on November 03, 2005, 09:54:58 AM
I respectfully disagree, C.  There is more to Division III athletics than the "Quality of Wins Index" and "Primary Criteria."  These kid pay a whole bunch of money to attend a D3 school and they work awfully hard without ever getting much pub.  I love the fact some of our student-athletes now get to experience the spotlight a little bit.

Illinois Wesleyan's players are going to experience the basketball thrill of a lifetime this evening, playing infront of a soldout Assembly Hall crowd (16,600) against the defending Division I national runner-up, the Fighting Illini.    IWU's All-American point-guard will get a chance to face one of D1's top 2 or 3 point-guards - and the Big Ten Preseason Player of the Year - Dee Brown.   IWU's program is getting a lot of great exposure out of the game...

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cs-051102illinicage,1,3767962.story?coll=cs-home-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true

http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2005/11/03/sports/local_sports/1011051.txt

http://www.pjstar.com/stories/110305/ILL_B8169VGI.077.shtml

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/110305/spo_20051103042.shtml


And IWU is getting $10,000, which does a lot of things for the athletic department.

Most team have plenty of other games to build their Q.O.W.I.  Ask Stevens Point how the experience was last year vs Marquette and Travis Diener...

http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/mbb/04-05/Marquettegame.htm

I bet they wouldn't trade it for an "in-region" game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 03, 2005, 10:37:42 AM

The guys can play their heart out, knowing its not going to cost them any QoW points and get a better test than they could in a scrimmage.

I think its also a boost for recruiting.  It's a lot easier to lure a d2 guy to IWU if he knows that there might be a chance to play against some of the D1's who passed on him over his four years.

Most importantly to me, it helps D3's rep overall.  No matter how good the team is, they are expected to lose by 25 or 30, so even a blowout doesn't hurt the reputation, but a good performance can do a lot to increase the reputation of top d3 programs.

Remember with ESPN U out there, the better d3 can look, the better chance we have of getting some airtime, especially in the slow winter months.  I just can't see ESPN sticking college indoor track on tv.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 03, 2005, 01:46:26 PM
I also disagree Coach C.

D3 Fisk and D1 Tennessee State play every year in the fall. It has turned into a heated rivalry particularly since the schools are less than a mile apart.   Nearly 7,000 fans have attended the game in recent years. It is a great experience for the players, fans and has been a great recruiting tool for the D3 school! 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on November 03, 2005, 03:03:12 PM
Gang -

I did not think that this would be a popular position, but heck, that has never stopped me before.  Let's think about this ... you get to 'play your heart out' basically knowing that winning or losing isn't important in the game. 

Well guys, that isnt what basketball or life are about.  Yeah, it's how you play the game and all, but in the end we DO keep score in these games.  We don't say at the end of the year "Well Bard plays really hard, so let's give them a Pool C bid over Augustana."

As for recruiting ... ehhh I doubt it.  I have had kids say that they come because the program wins.  I have had kids say that they come becasue the academics are good.  i have had kids say that they come becasue they think they will get more playing time.  I have had kids say that they come becasue of a strong national travel schedule.   I have NEVER heard a kid say that he went somewhere becasue they play a D1 exhibition game.

As for playing for the money, this makes us mercenaries.  It's what is wrong with the D1 game and they are making us dirty by close contact.  Do you want to be seen as Marathon Oil?  Becasue that is all you really are to the D1 program in all but the most unusual situations.

I know it feels good to see your team or your son on the ESPN crawl, but the D1 schools are using us.  They want a live practice under true game conditions and we are giving up a game that could otherwise enhance the competition within D3.  How much do we really get out of it?  You cant really run your system.  you cant play you nomal rotations.  You learn nothing about how your stuff works because let's face it, unless you are playing a HORRIBLE D1 program, they are still way better than anyone we are going to see most years.

As for reputation ... nope not really.  Who but the most dedicated among us remember Princeton almost losing to a D1 a few years back.  With all due respect, how obscure is the D1 vs. D3 record?  Usually all a D1 loss signifies is that the team was Prarie View A&M or Loyola  or that they had 5 players suspended.

We should not be letting ourselves get used this way.  If it's an exhibition, why does it cont against our 25?  Why isn't it a scrimmage?  Because then the D1 could not charge admission for it or broadcast it.  Face it, we are dirtier every time we associate with the 'big boys.'

Like I said, I know that it won't be a popular position, but let's think about it.  We are good enough without them.

C
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 03, 2005, 03:08:24 PM
Quote from: Coach C on November 03, 2005, 03:03:12 PM
Face it, we are dirtier every tim we assocate with the 'big boys.'

There is a lot to be said for that, true, but I would still want our kids to have a shot to enjoy the atmosphere for one night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 03, 2005, 03:35:58 PM
Coach, I think you inadvertantly made my point.

Quote from: Coach C on November 03, 2005, 03:03:12 PM
  You cant really run your system.  you cant play you nomal rotations.  You learn nothing about how your stuff works

Is a d1 game a good idea for the majority of d3?  Probably not.  You're right, those teams could never run their system or rotations against a d1 team, even a poor one.  However, for the top 15 or so programs in d3, their systems and rotations can generally stand up to a pre-season exhibition effort from even the best d1 schools.

Quote from: Coach C on November 03, 2005, 03:03:12 PM
let's face it, unless you are playing a HORRIBLE D1 program, they are still way better than anyone we are going to see most years.

I also have to respectfully disagree about this point.  Certainly during the regular season, no solid d1 team would ruin their schedule strength and risk a poor showing by scheduling a top d3 team, but as an exhibition it becomes a chance to test your teams against a well-disciplined crew.  I highly doubt that a HORRIBLE D1 program would be superior to IWU.  I'm sure there are a couple dozen programs that could not top the Titans this season.  The gap from top 5 d3 to bottom 20 d1 is not nearly as far as people believe.

Quote from: Coach C on November 03, 2005, 03:03:12 PM
With all due respect, how obscure is the D1 vs. D3 record? 

Very.  But as soon as a d3 school (like IWU) give a big-time school (Illinois) a scare or beats a mid-major team (admittedly that would be a long-shot upset), it will be big news.  Maybe to you, the chance isn't worth the costs and I totally respect that opinion.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly,

Quote from: Coach C on November 03, 2005, 03:03:12 PM
we are giving up a game that could otherwise enhance the competition within D3.  How much do we really get out of it? 

Honestly, that game is not going to enhance the d3 competition.  No one is going to travel any distance for a d3 scrimmage and a game against an inferior team is not going to give an experienced team anything new.

After all that is said.  Sure, it's really dumb that it counts on the 25 (although it doesn't count as a game for d1, so I'm not sure your reasoning is right, Pat will have to fill me in on that one).  That should be changed.

You're also right that its a dumb idea for a majority of d3 programs.  If you don't have a top 15 squad, don't think about it.  If your top 15 squad is all sophomores with no starting experience, forget it.  There might be five or six teams each year that would benefit from it, like IWU this year.  For those teams, I say they have to go for it.  I don't see a whole lot of downside.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on November 03, 2005, 03:39:17 PM
I gotta agree with the coach, even though I understand the thrill of those games, and the money involved (and I would love to be reading about a big IWU win tonight).  

We are all always bragging about how DIII has the only true scholar-athletes (and we point out that scholar is first), yet we come running when the big boys wave money in our face.  I think that's a bit hypocritical - IMHO.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 03, 2005, 03:52:35 PM
Hey folks, just a heads-up, I thought this issue was important enough that I asked Coach C to write it up for the Daily Dose, so if you like, we can have this discussion on the blog, out on the front page.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on November 03, 2005, 03:55:49 PM
Thanks for the soapbox, Pat!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Just Bill on November 03, 2005, 04:32:24 PM
This summer I got to meet Nick Bennett from UW-Stevens Point.  Despite having won two national titles and being named all-conference and all that other stuff, he said the coolest thing he did in his career was play Marquette at the Bradley Center.

I think that says a lot.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 03, 2005, 05:53:19 PM
Here, here.  A big time game against a big time team on a big stage would be an amazing incentive for me, even if it had no bearing on my record.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 07, 2005, 09:05:47 PM
results vs D1 through 1st weekend of exhibition games...  have I missed any?

11/1/2005   A   Ripon   MWC-MW-D3   81   H   UW Green Bay   D1   97
11/3/2005   A   Blackburn   SLIAC-MW-D3   38   H   Western Illinois   D1   80
11/3/2005   A   Illinois Wesleyan   CCIW-MW-D3   60   H   Illinois   D1   82
11/3/2005   A   Occidental   SCAIAC-West-D3   38   H   Utah St   D1   66
11/5/2005   A   Whitman   NWC-West-D3   54   H   Utah      D1   77
11/5/2005   A   Puget SoundNWC-West-D3   90   H   San Jose   D1   107
11/5/2005   A   DePauw   SCAC-South-D3   67   H   Evansville   D1   76
11/5/2005   A   UW River Falls   WIAC-West-D3   52   H   Wisconsin   D1   79
11/5/2005   A   Capital   OAC-GL-D3   63   H   Valparaiso   D1   69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: cmufan on November 08, 2005, 12:18:29 AM
Additional D3 matchup versus a D1 foe. December 28.  Carnegie Mellon at Princeton.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 08, 2005, 12:35:45 AM
Now, is Western Illinois big time? San Jose St.? How many people do they get for those games?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 08, 2005, 04:16:08 AM
Western Illinois is most certainly not "big time". They play in the lowly Mid-Continent Conference, and the school itself is much more of a football school than a basketball school (there have been a number of Leathernecks who've played in the NFL in recent years). But WIU was a decent (for them) 11-17 last season, and they only lost to Indiana by five at Assembly Hall in Bloomington.

San Jose State was 6-23 last year, and they haven't had a winning season in five years. But they play in the moderately strong Western Athletic Conference.

It looks as though SJSU draws about 1,500 to 2,000 per regular season game. There were 650 attendees listed for the scrimmage against Puget Sound. Western Illinois averaged 1,425 last season, and drew 725 for the scrimmage against Blackburn.

The game that really impressed me was the Capital/Valparaiso game. Valpo is traditionally the strongest program in the Mid-Continent and a legendary NCAA cinderella, and yet Capital had an 11-point advantage on the big boys at one point and didn't relinquish the lead for good until there were less than four minutes left to play.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 08, 2005, 09:26:14 AM
Denison is playing Akron on December 7 and Kenyon (KENYON!) is playing Wright State in January.

Greg - that was mostly rhetorical on my part, as I don't think that these exhibitions are 'big time' for the most part, nor recruiting carrots.

Last year I had Western Illinois 246th and San Jose State 274th in my D-1 power rankings.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 08, 2005, 12:39:41 PM
Greg, Smed, you both misspeak--Greg you refer to the games as scrimmages.. those that I mentioned are exhibition games, not scrimmages... I know you know the differences.   
Smed, I have only listed the games leading up to Nov 18th.  The games prior to the 18th are exhibition games, but Count against the D3 team's 25 game limit  -  they do not count as a win or loss, nor do stats count.  There are a large number of games vs D1 teams on and after Nov 18th that are regular season games and count in the won-loss record.  It seems a bit strange, but that's the way it is... ie if IWU runs the table, they are undefeated.. the loss to Illinois does not count.  Had that game been played after the 18th, it would have been a regular season game and been a loss for IWU.
   Of course the difference between a scrimmage and the exhibition games is huge--scrimmages are informal, last as long as the coaches want them to, and rarely have a publicized score - there is no paid crowd, and it usually is unadvertised because the coaches treat it as an upgraded practice session.   Totally different from the exhibition games, which are played under formal game conditions, with paid crowds.  As someone else said, in some situations, D3 teams are taking the place of Athletes In Action or other similar AllStar teams.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 08, 2005, 03:18:25 PM
How did I mis-speak? I was just listing some other games that I just found out about (I know there are more, but KENYON, fer cripes sake...). I know the difference between exhibitions and scrimmages and have posted that I think it's unfair that these count against a D-3 team's limit when it doesn't count against a D-1 team's limit .
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 08, 2005, 03:37:47 PM
Yep, you're right. Exhibitions. Sorry. NPU's first scrimmage is this afternoon, so I obviously have the concept of "scrimmage" on my brain today.

Scott, you should find an emoticon that indicates rhetorical speech, since (especially) the question about attendance looked pretty literal to me. Perhaps Question Guy  ??? followed by Winking Guy ;) would suffice.  :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 08, 2005, 03:45:31 PM
Ah, I thought my prior service and postings here would suffice...alas.. ::)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 08, 2005, 03:56:40 PM
smedindy - no harm intended - I thought you were mentioning those games as add ons to my list thinking that my list was ALL d3 vs D1 activity for the season.  As you DO understand, my list was only for the "exhibitions".  If I think of it -  my data base at home has all games during the regular season vs D1 teams - I'll print that out tonite.
The lengthy definition I went in to of regular season vs exhibition vs scrimmage was for the handful of people reading who may not have understood the difference.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 09, 2005, 01:06:31 AM
 :(    UW Platteville loses to UW Milwaukee, 63-47, after a close first half
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 10, 2005, 08:25:35 AM
last night's exhibitions include:

Wright St 76 - Defiance 48

UW Green Bay 69  -  UW Stout 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 10, 2005, 06:12:33 PM
Wartburg lost to Iowa last night,  75-48.  No games tonite that I'm aware of, but several this weekend, including Hopkins vs Loyola Md, which could be close
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 12, 2005, 12:06:06 AM
Loyola Md beats Hopkins, 91-73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 13, 2005, 03:25:05 AM
Four exhibitions last night vs d1   :'( :'(       all crushers

A   Greensboro   USAC-South-D3   63   H   High Point   D1   95
T   Concordia Dallas   ASCW-South-D3   68   T   UTSA   D1   110
A   Medgar Evers   CUNY-Atl-D3   29   H   Iona   D1   99
A   Piedmont   GSAC-South-D3   83   H   Troy   D1   117
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on November 13, 2005, 08:38:59 AM
hopefan:

Shouldn't that be Concordia Austin v. UTSA? (While they do plan to move the campus, that won't happen for several years -- and not to Dallas.  ;))
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 13, 2005, 09:55:13 AM
Thanks Warren -  I don't know how Dallas snuck in there - I guess I would have caught it if I'd ever been to the Grand State of Texas - one I've never hit.  Shoot, gotta correct all my schedules!!!!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on November 13, 2005, 10:04:39 AM
Not to worry, hopefan. Maybe some day you'll make it to my home state (I've not been back there myself since 2001).

BTW many of us native San Antonians consider that Dallas is actually located in south Oklahoma.  :P
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 14, 2005, 07:17:51 AM
Kent St beats Muskingum  71- 52

D3 now 0-19 in exhibitions vs D1   -  glad they don't count in our record.

I'll see Maryville (Mo) vs St Louis U tonite - SLU's all around quickness and superior size in the middle should add up to a lop sided score, but it will be a thrill for the Maryville kids to play at the Savis Center.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 15, 2005, 06:55:30 AM

  Results from last night vs D1 - I was at Maryville vs SLU game last night and will comment later in SLIAC-MW room

A   Maryville Mo   SLIAC-MW-D3   52   H   St Louis   D1   81
A   UW Whitewater   SLIAC-MW-D3   58   H   Marquette   D1   80
A   Lawrence   MWC-MW-D3   46   H   Wisconsin   D1   81

D3 now 0-22 vs D1 in exhibitions
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 15, 2005, 07:26:18 AM
Looks like UW-Whitewater gave D1 national power Marquette a good battle last night. According to Q's post in the WIAC room, the Warhawks were down by only eight with three and a half minutes left in the game before the big boys pulled away. UWW actually outrebounded Marquette, 35-33.

I had the chance to see UWW scrimmage North Park last week. The Warhawks are going to be tough again this season. Returning All-WIAC honoree Jeremy Manchester will be one of the best guards in the nation this year, and Tony Miggins is a wide-body with a sweet midrange turnaround. Mike Toellner gives them a very able big man as well.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 15, 2005, 12:24:16 PM
I didn't realize that Whitewater had joined the SLIAC, hopefan.  Looks like that woebegone conference might be in line for its first tourney victory!  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 15, 2005, 03:02:17 PM
That is quite an expansion northward for the SLIAC, eh????   I'll have to have a consult with my proof reader. :-[
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 19, 2005, 11:41:07 AM
Additions and corrections are welcome.

Colby-Sawyer 92, UM-Machias (NAIA 2) 85
Colorado St.-Pueblo (D2) 94, Lewis and Clark 80
Concordia-St. Paul (D2) 57, UW-River Falls 54
Eastern 101, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA) 62
Furman (D1) 100, Macalester 58
Guilford 95, Webber International (NAIA 2) 93
Heidelberg 110, Temple Baptist (NCCAA) 68
Juniata 83, Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 31
UMass-Dartmouth 84, UM-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 58
McNeese St. (D1) 68, Mary Hardin-Baylor 63
Montclair St. 82, Newport News (USCAA) 52
North Texas (D1) 85, Hardin-Simmons 48
Northwestern St. (D1) 77, E. Texas Baptist 74
Robert Morris-Chicago (NAIA 1) 76, Washington U. 73
Tri-State 84, Purdue-North Central (NAIA 2) 76 (OT)
UT-Pan American (D1) 87, Sul Ross St. 72
Utica 81, St. Joseph's, VT (NAIA 2) 55
UW-Stevens Point 69, Cardinal Stritch (NAIA 2) 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 19, 2005, 12:07:09 PM
Here's a correction:  it's "Rhodes Scholar."  ;)

Finally decided that scholarships are inconsistent with D3 sports, Rhodes?  :D

Looking forward to another season of your outstanding efforts, RS!

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 19, 2005, 02:38:04 PM
North Central 88, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 19, 2005, 07:15:42 PM
Additions from Friday
Chapman   101   West Coast Baptist   USCAA   59   
Christopher Newport   84   So Virginia   USCAA   76   OT
Clarkson   81      Paul Smiths   USCAA   51   
Heidelberg   110   Temple Baptist   USCAA   68   
Mt St Mary   109   St Joseph's Brooklyn   USCAA   106   OT
Olivet  89   Andrews   USCAA   49
Mt Aloysius    101      Franciscan   Other   89
Pitt Greensburg   81   Penn Tech   Other   69
SUNYIT   98   Albany Pharmacy   Other   48
Albion   77   UM-Dearborn   NAIA-D2   88
Cal Lutheran   88   Cal State East Bay   NAIA-D2   94
Central   82   Viterbo   NAIA-D2   87
Centre   79   Asbury   NAIA-D2   67
Endicott   72   Fisher   NAIA-D2   59
La Verne   77   Menlo   NAIA-D2   80
Manchester   69   Bethel Ind   NAIA-D2   77
Occidental   77      Pacific Union   NAIA-D2   44
Pacific  39     Southern Oregon   NAIA-D2   63
Puget Sound   78   Evergreen   NAIA-D2   68
Chowan   74   UNC-Pembroke   NCAA-D2   61
Howard Payne   78   Texas A&M Commerce   NCAA-D2   70
Norwich   57   St Edward's   NCAA-D2   89
Texas Lutheran   57      Alabama Huntsville   NCAA-D2   68
Louisiana    59      UL Monroe   D1   92
Polytechnic      37      Army   D1   76
Santa Cruz      41      St Mary's   D1   93
Texas Tyler    73      Centenary-La   D1   84


   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 20, 2005, 12:43:47 PM
Briarcliffe (USCAA) 65, Misericordia 64
Briar Cliff (NAIA 2) 68, Wartburg 63
Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 92, Caltech 41
Central Missouri St. (D2) 90, Monmouth 61
Eastern Mennonite 87, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 84
Eastern Washington (D1) 89, Pacific Lutheran 63
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 90, Guilford 72
George Fox 107, Northwest (NAIA 2) 91
Lyndon St. (NAIA 2) 83, Wentworth Tech 72
Northwestern, MN 72, Trinity International (NAIA 2) 69
Ohio Northern 85, Michigan-Dearborn (NAIA 2) 68
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 68, UW-Whitewater 51
Rockford 96, Bethel, IN (NAIA 2) 95 (OT)
Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 70, Olivet 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 20, 2005, 12:48:15 PM
Score to add from Nov. 19th:

FISK 92,  Knoxville College (NAIA) 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 20, 2005, 12:54:36 PM
hopefan: Thanks for all the additions.

David: I think I'll leave it at Rhodes for now. It does save me some keystrokes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2005, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 19, 2005, 12:07:09 PM
Here's a correction:  it's "Rhodes Scholar."  ;)

Finally decided that scholarships are inconsistent with D3 sports, Rhodes?  :D

Looking forward to another season of your outstanding efforts, RS!



Actually, I assumed rhodes' own modesty prompted the name change. ;)

Thanks for the job that you do!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 21, 2005, 03:17:12 AM
Rhodes, the Wisconsin-Whitewater/Robert Morris - Springfield result on Saturday was initially inverted on the Scoreboard page. UWW actually defeated RMCS, 68-51.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 21, 2005, 09:59:14 AM
Additional scores from Nov. 19

Chapman 69, Pacific Union (NAIA 2) 41
Colorado St.-Pueblo (D2) 63, Willamette 56
Dakota St. (NAIA 2) 93, Presentation 69
Grace Bible (NCCAA) 85, Wisconsin Lutheran 81 (OT)
Hendrix 86, Rhema Bible (USCAA) 54
Humboldt St. (D2) 112, UC Santa Cruz 59
Linfield 66, Evergreen St. (NAIA 2) 62 (OT)
Mayville St. (NAIA 2) 79, Crown 55
Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 74, Concordia-Moorhead 66
Penn St.-Berks 94, Newport News (USCAA) 80
Robert Morris-Chicago (NAIA 1) 77, UW-Platteville 71
Salve Regina 72, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 49
Taylor (NAIA 2) 71, Tri-State 57
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (D1) 116, Concordia-Austin 78
Valley City St. (NAIA 2) 80, Minnesota-Morris 74
Wilkes 95, Paul Smith's (USCAA) 39
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 21, 2005, 10:03:13 AM
Ralph: I'm not sure what role--if any--modesty played in the name change.   ;)

Greg: Thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2005, 10:28:35 AM
Wilbur mentioned earlier that Fisk had beaten Knoxville... he has Knoxville as NAIA, but it is one of the schools that I list as "other" because I could not find them on any organization's list  -  I just double checked the NAIA site and they are not NAIA.  Rhodes, do you have any idea if the belong to any organization???
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 21, 2005, 10:47:12 AM
Buffalo (D1) 96, Buffalo St. 61
Concordia-St. Paul (D2) 84, Bethany Lutheran 58
Franklin Pierce (D2) 83, Baruch 57
Maine-Farmington 91, Lyndon St. (NAIA 2) 78
Whitman 70, Montana Tech (NAIA 1) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 21, 2005, 11:04:45 AM
hopefan: The Knoxville College website provides no information on affiliation. In addition Knoxville is not listed on the NCAA, NAIA, NCCAA or USCAA websites. My copy of the 2003-2004 addition of the Blue Book of College Athletics does list them as having NAIA 2 affiliation for men's basketball, but that is probably a mistake (one of dozens to be found in that volume, I might add). As noted, the NAIA website does not list them as members and that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2005, 11:48:29 AM
additional games  11/19

Baruch   84    Green Mountain  NCAA-D2   53
Chowan   75   Mt Olive   NCAA-D2   105
Claremont Mudd   61   Menlo  NAIA-D2      56
Eastern   108   Maryland Bible      NCCAA-D2   79
Fontbonne   65   Moody Bible   NCCAA-D2   61
Gallaudet   100   Franciscan   Other   66
Heidelberg   109   Ohio State Marion   Other   34
Keene St   103   Maine Machias     NAIA-D2     68
MSOE   68    Hannibal LaGrange   NAIA-D2   52
Mt St Vincent   108   Pratt   Other   42
Concordia Austin   78   Texas A&M Corpus   D1   116
Fitchburg St   75   Fisher   NAIA-D2   66
John Jay   44     Wagner   D1   86
Occidental   109   West Coast Baptist   USCAA   36

Still looking for
Purchase vs St Joseph's Brooklyn  USCAA
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 21, 2005, 01:06:25 PM
hopefan: Please confirm that Maryland Bible is a member of the NCCAA. Although they sure sound like they are (or should be), I don't see them listed on the NCCAA website.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2005, 02:04:39 PM
Rhodes - looks like you are right  -  not on NCCAA site, and the Maryland Bible site has nothing....   I just assumed, given the name....   I guess it will be "other"
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2005, 02:34:13 PM
1 more on 11/20/05

Hamline  74         North Dakota St  NCAA-D2     90


Still looking for Rust   vs  Tougaloo
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 21, 2005, 02:55:44 PM
I stand corrected about Knoxville College. I thought that they were NAIA members based on similar information that Rhodes received. They primarily play an NAIA dominated schedule.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 21, 2005, 05:32:14 PM
Hopefan, a nit to pick. While I'm glad that you're helping Rhodes police the agate this year, could you list the winners on the left-hand side rather than the D3 affiliates? It'd make it easier to read the results. Thanks, and keep up the good work.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2005, 06:05:19 PM
Yeah, hopefan, and while you're at it, why don't you put the D3 team in bold!  We cannot have any slouchy message board postings!

Tell you what. We will give you a pay raise!  ;D

(Wow, reality television has permeated the D3hoops.com message boards! :D)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2005, 06:31:22 PM
For recognition from my 2 most admired Hall of Famers, I will attempt to fix things up!!!!   ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 21, 2005, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 21, 2005, 06:31:22 PM
For recognition from my 2 most admired Hall of Famers, I will attempt to fix things up!!!!   ;)

:'(
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 21, 2005, 10:59:23 PM
And I guess us peons will be just happy with your scraps... ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2005, 11:23:52 PM
Rust 83, at Tougaloo 68 NAIA-1

http://www.tougaloo.edu/content/Athletics/basketballschedM.htm
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 22, 2005, 12:23:07 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 21, 2005, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 21, 2005, 06:31:22 PM
For recognition from my 2 most admired Hall of Famers, I will attempt to fix things up!!!!   ;)

:'(

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, DC.  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 22, 2005, 12:36:35 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 21, 2005, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 21, 2005, 06:31:22 PM
For recognition from my 2 most admired Hall of Famers, I will attempt to fix things up!!!!   ;)

:'(

hopefan,

This is what we've come to - you try to be nice to A, and B complains that you omitted him!  And you haven't even heard yet from sac, Q, or WT!

Oops, I bet I forgot someone and am now in as 'deep doo-doo' as you are! ;) ;D

[But don't offend David - he'll sue you!  Unless, of course, he's too busy suing ME! :(]
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 22, 2005, 12:50:57 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 22, 2005, 12:36:35 AM
[This is what we've come to - you try to be nice to A, and B complains that you omitted him!  And you haven't even heard yet from sac, Q, or WT!

Oops, I bet I forgot someone and am now in as 'deep doo-doo' as you are! ;) ;D

You left out Coach C, as well as HOF Grand Panjandrum Pat Coleman. Expect to see the doo-doo truck pull into your driveway in the morning.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2005, 08:10:57 AM
the missing score from 11/20:

Rust   83   Toogaloo   NAIA-D1   68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2005, 08:23:11 AM
missing score from 11/19:

St Joseph's Brooklyn   USCAA   73    Purchase   66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on November 22, 2005, 08:26:00 AM
I've retained the Car Talk lawyers, Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe, to look into this malfeasance. Subpoenas going out within the hour.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2005, 08:38:15 AM
That is pretty good on the Rust-Tougaloo score, hopefan.  I like your style, the use of the fonts, the attention to detail and the clarity of presentation.

What is more, the accuracy of the information is critical.  Your post agrees with my Reply #100 from last night! ;)

You are a credit your family, your school and the collective wisdom of the family of D3hoops.com.

Keep up the good work!  We look forward to your contributions this season! :D :D :D ;D 8) ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 22, 2005, 09:52:53 AM
Cabrini 104, Newport News (USCAA) 85
Franklin 89, Webber (NAIA 2) 68
Hendrix 76, Central Baptist (NCCAA) 70
Indiana, PA (D2) 112, Thiel 61
Lincoln 87, Salem International (D2) 74
McNeese St. (D1) 98, Louisiana College 46
Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 78, Cornell 61
Piedmont 110, Warren Wilson 67 (USCAA)
Tennessee St. (D1) 72, Fisk 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2005, 10:01:41 AM
Through the first weekend    11/20

D3  vs  :

D1        0 - 13
D2        3  -  11
NAIA D1   2  -  2
NAIA D2   21  -  16
NCCAA       7  -  2
"Other"      8  -  0
USCAA       14  -  2

For the curious :
Wins vs D2  Were Chowan over UNC Pembroke, Howard Payne over Texas A&M Commerce, and Baruch over Green Mountain

Closest D1 loss was E Texas of the ASC losing by 3 to Northwest Louisiana

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on November 22, 2005, 10:20:50 AM
Hopefan -

Can you please enumerate the inexplicable losses to the USCAA and the NCCAA?

C
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 22, 2005, 10:37:03 AM
hopefan: Thanks for posting the totals. Two games, however, must be reclassified:

MSOE 68, Hannibal LaGrange (NAIA 1)
North Dakota St. (D1) 90, Hamline 74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2005, 10:40:17 AM
rhodes    thanks    we make a good team    hopefully my data can make your "job" easier.     Continue to let me know any errors you spot.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2005, 02:08:09 PM
Coach C    those losses to NCCAA and USCAA were:

Wisconsin Lutheran losing to Grace Bible (NCCAA) 80-78;

Misericordia losing to Briarcliffe (USCAA) 65-64;

and SUNY Purchase losing to St Joseph's Brooklyn (USCAA)  73-66

I also had Bethany Lutheran listed as an NCCAA school, but now realize they are a part of the UMAC and are a D3 provisional, so I'll take that one off....they had beaten St Mary's Minn.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2005, 02:23:26 PM
To add to games of the 21st :

Mississippi     91   Wesley   NCCAA-D2    61
Rhodes   109     Messenger   ACCA    22
Brooklyn   79     Pratt    Other   43

Still missing : Dubuque vs Andrews
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2005, 04:32:45 PM
final score from 11/21

Dubuque   77     Andrews  (USCAA)  49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 22, 2005, 05:54:08 PM
hopefan:

One question: What is the ACCA (Messenger's affiliation)?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on November 22, 2005, 06:36:23 PM
rhodes:

Not to usurp hopefan, but ... per a quick-and-dirty Google search, ACCA is the Association of Christian College Athletics.

See URL below:

http://accathletics.org
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2005, 10:06:19 PM
WT, thanks for the link!

wow!  Those are small schools!

Kinda like "Division 3" of the NCCAA!

http://accathletics.org/Scores.asp

Please scroll to the bottom to see the list of member institutions.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 22, 2005, 10:34:01 PM
Ralph,

I also noticed that the list of men's schools was, what, 8 times as bold as for the women's - oy vey!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 22, 2005, 10:54:29 PM
Hey, do they have rules at "Free Will Baptist College"? I mean, if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice, right?

/needs to stop listening to Rush records when posting...

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2005, 11:19:59 PM
Smedindy,  As I understand the Free Will Baptist, they believe in re-baptism and/or believer's baptism, but are more Arminianism in theology than Calvinist.

Jacobus Arminius (1559-1609)

http://members.aol.com/twarren20/arminius.html

http://www.victorshepherd.on.ca/Other%20Writings/jacobus_arminius.htm

The most influential Arminianist on American Christianity is probably John Wesley.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 23, 2005, 07:21:20 AM
Thanks, I guess...

(I was actually goin' for a funny there...with the Rush song "Freewill" and all...)  ::)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2005, 09:53:41 AM
Coe 70, Moody Bible (NCCAA) 59
Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 83, Alma 73
Fairmont St. (D2) 98, Pitt-Greensburg 85
Ferris St. (D2) 78, Calvin 64
Illinois Wesleyan 87, Olivet Nazarene (NAIA 1) 68
Maryville, MO 74, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA) 47
McKendree 108 (NAIA 1), Greenville 69
Mt. St. Joseph 83, Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 69
Nebraska Wesleyan 64, Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 49
Saginaw Valley St. (D2) 68, Olivet 65
South Dakota (D2) 83, Simpson 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2005, 09:55:46 AM
WT: Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on November 23, 2005, 10:07:25 AM
I had no idea whales could affiliate with a religious denomination.

C
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2005, 12:30:09 PM
Additional scores from 11/22

Eckerd (D2) 74, Franklin 62
Hope 103, Andrews (USCAA) 46
Mansfield (D2) 85, Keystone 82
Northwest (NAIA 2) 99, Pacific Lutheran 89
UW-LaCrosse  73, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2005, 03:12:57 PM
The rest of the scores from 11/22

Lafayette   (D1)   86      Alvernia   80
LSU Shreveport   (NAIA-D1)   90     East Texas Baptist   87
Corban  (NAIA-D2)     108     George Fox   100
Northeastern  (D1)   105   Lasell   57
Middlebury   74   St Joseph's Vt   (NAIA-D2)   57
Occidental   75   La Sierra   (USCAA)   45
Pacific   78     Multnomah    (NCCAA-D2)   52
UC San Diego  (NCAA-D2)  54     Pomona Pitzer   47
Purchase   92           Pratt   (Other)   60
So Vermont   91           Green Mountain   (NCAA-D2)   53

NOTE  :  That's twice that NCAA D2 Green Mountain has been beaten badly by a 'middlin'  D3 team - So Vermont and Baruch.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 23, 2005, 03:35:57 PM
They could be the Cal Tech of D-2! Well, without the brains.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on November 23, 2005, 07:55:49 PM
There are really very few games played each year between the top D3 teams and the top NAIA teams.  Here is a complete list of the 2004-05 season games between teams in the final D3hoops.com poll and NAIA D1 and D2 tournament teams (I felt the D3hoops.com final poll reflected last year's "best D3 teams" better than the D3 tournament field)...
 

vs NAIA I

Brescia 66 (1st Rnd Loss) @Hanover (D3 #7) 64

vs NAIA II

Cornerstone (Elite Eight) 88 Calvin (D3 #2) 87 - neutral

Calvin (D3 #2) 88 @Trinity Christian (1st Rnd Loss) 59

Trinity-Tx (D3 #3) 88 Newman (Sweet 16) 77 - neutral

@Wittenberg (D3 #9) 77 Cedarville (Final 4) 68

@Wittenberg 54 (D3 #9) Taylor-IN (1st Rnd Loss) 47


And here are the 2005-06 games between teams in the D3hoops.com Preseason Top 25 and the NAIA 1 and 2 preaseason Top 25 polls (including receiving votes)...

vs NAIA I

Already played...

Illinois Wesleyan (D3 #1) 87 Olivet Nazarene (NAIA RV) 68 - 11/22

Robert Morris-Chicago (NAIA #4) 77 @ Platteville (D3 #20) 71 - 11/19


Scheduled...

Hanover (D3 #9) vs Robert Morris-Chicago (NAIA #4) - 11/26

Illinois Wesleyan (D3 #1) vs St. Xavier (NAIA #16) - 11/28


vs NAIA II

Calvin (D3 #24) vs Cornerstone (NAIA #8) - 11/25, neutral

Calvin (D3 #24) vs Trinity Christian (NAIA RV) - 11/30

Calvin (D3 #24) vs Aquinas (NAIA #17) - 12/6

Wittenberg (D3 #10) @ Cedarville (NAIA #5) - 12/6

Albion (D3 #8) @ Spring Arbor (NAIA RV) - 12/7


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2005, 09:12:34 PM
Green Mountain is becoming one of us!

Green Mountain (http://www2.ncaa.org/media_and_events/association_news/ncaa_news_online/2005/09_26_05/association_wide/4220n11.html)


(Sorry about the length of that link.  Offline, would someone show me very simply how to put that link into a more compact format?  Thanks)

Guu-awwwwlley, it works! ;)  Thanks David!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 23, 2005, 10:34:26 PM
[I think this deserves an online response]

The format is this--using square brackets instead of parentheses:
(url=http://www.d3hoops.com)Click here for the front page(/url)

Here it is in action:
Click here for the front page (http://www.d3hoops.com)

Happy Thanksgiving, Ralph and all readers!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2005, 11:10:48 AM
Last night's results :

Texas Arlington   (D1)   84   Texas Dallas   74
Concordia Cal   (NAIA-D1)   78   Carthage   75
Robert Morris Springfield   (USCAA)   72   Fontbonne      66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on November 26, 2005, 10:03:23 AM
Listen Mr. Ypsi -

I have tried to be patient with you over the yars, but you patent lack of respect for the coaching staff forces me to take drastic actions.  You are now suspended for 4 games and we won't play you after that.  Go find a friendly arbiter.

C

ps - Just kidding.  I am certianly on the lower tier of HOF members.  But you better mention PAt next time!  He can get grumpy.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2005, 10:12:04 AM
Results of Nov 25

Ohio Northern   82   Master's College   NAIA-D1   69   
Westmont   (NAIA-D1)   72   Carthage   69  OT
Vanguard   (NAIA-D1)   73   La Verne   53
Hope   67      Aquinas   (NAIA-D2)   66   
Cornerstone   (NAIA-D2)   87   Calvin   79   
Bethany Kan   (NAIA-D2)   70   Wabash   63   
Warner Pacific   (NAIA-D2)   100   Puget Sound   93   
Willamette   66      Oregon Tech   (NAIA-D2)   65   
Cascade   (NAIA-D2)   95      Linfield   89  OT
Christopher Newport   103      St Joseph Vt   (NAIA-D2)   63   
Warner So   (NAIA-D2)   68      Averett   67   
Fisk   108        Wesley Miss   (NCCAA-D2)   86   

Missing Husson Vs Notre Dame de Namur   and
UW River Falls  Concordia Irvine


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on November 26, 2005, 10:17:47 AM
Wow - some unexpected losses to NAIA-2s there.  Not a good day.
C
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 26, 2005, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: Coach C on November 26, 2005, 10:03:23 AM
Listen Mr. Ypsi -

I have tried to be patient with you over the yars, but you patent lack of respect for the coaching staff forces me to take drastic actions.  You are now suspended for 4 games and we won't play you after that.  Go find a friendly arbiter.

C

ps - Just kidding.  I am certianly on the lower tier of HOF members.  But you better mention PAt next time!  He can get grumpy.



Coach,

My most abject apologies for leaving you off the list of HoFers - it shall not happen again! :-[ ;D

But I deliberately don't include Pat - he is on his own plane!  You HoFers are merely exalted mortals - he is The Guru!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on November 26, 2005, 03:03:50 PM
A plane?  Pat got a plane?

I mean I knew things were improving financially, but I had no idea that he got a plane!!!!

And yeah - I am quite mortal.  no doubt there.

C
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on November 26, 2005, 05:02:54 PM
From the 25th

Hope 67  Aquinas (NAIA D2) 66

From today

Aquinas (NAIA D2) 86  Calvin 71

Hope 79 Cornerstone (NAIA D2) 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2005, 06:12:52 PM
now fdf, I know you're feeling good, but i already posted scores of the 25th, including our beloved Hope's, on the previous page.   Let's not rub it in our foe's faces too much!!!! :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 26, 2005, 06:26:09 PM
With Hope going 2-0 and Calvin going 0-2, looks like the wrong MIAA team was ranked! ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on November 26, 2005, 10:44:48 PM
cabs - I swear I read the games posted from the 25th twice and didn't see the Hope score - damn bifocals anyway   >:(

Your assesment of the preseason rankings would be agreed upon by almost everyone in the MIAA chat room - there are two MIAA teams ranked that probably shouldn't be - and one that should be that isn't (yet  ;D )
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 26, 2005, 11:52:58 PM
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on November 26, 2005, 10:44:48 PM
cabs - I swear I read the games posted from the 25th twice and didn't see the Hope score - damn bifocals anyway   >:(

Your assesment of the preseason rankings would be agreed upon by almost everyone in the MIAA chat room - there are two MIAA teams ranked that probably shouldn't be - and one that should be that isn't (yet  ;D )

Your objection about the games of the 25th should be to hopefan, not me!  (But I agree about the bifocals!) ;)

Barring any changes due to games yet to be played, I'd say Hope is definitely IN, Calvin is definitely OUT - and I'm agnostic about any other MIAA teams!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on November 27, 2005, 07:18:35 AM
OK - now I not only miss the posting of the Hope game score from the 25th, I'm appologizing to the wrong poster.

hopefan - my appologies

Boy I hope my wife doesn't read this - she's been claiming I'm losing my mind  :o

cabs - any chance you're making the trip to Holland this coming weekend for the MIAA/CCIW challenge?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 27, 2005, 09:33:35 AM
I'd sure like to, but it looks like family obligations won't permit it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2005, 09:44:08 AM
Games of 11/26 :
Furman   (D1)   91   Johns Hopkins   55
Northern Illinois   (D1)   102   Aurora   61
Tennessee-Martin   (D1)   94   Webster   72
Utah St   (D1)   102   Lewis&Clark   65
Robert Morris Chi   (NAIA-D1)   87   Hanover   79
Aquinas   (NAIA-D2)   86   Calvin   71
Hope   79   Cornerstone   (NAIA-D2)   59
Colorado College   85   Bethany Kan   (NAIA-D2)   77
Southern Oregon   (NAIA-D2)   68   Willamette   59
Whitman   98   Concordia Ore   (NAIA-D2)   93
Corban   (NAIA-D2)   100   Linfield   79
Mansfield   (NCAA-D2)   90   Messiah   78
Millersville   (NCAA-D2)   69   Chowan   65
Bridgewater   80   Lancaster Bible   (NCCAA-D2)   60
Brooklyn   69   Briarcliffe   (Other)   47
Christopher Newport   77   So Virginia   (USCAA)   68
Puget Sound   106   Northwest Christian   (USCAA)   77
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 27, 2005, 11:14:49 AM
It looks like there has been a bloodless coup in here...wherefore art thou, Rhodes?  ???
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2005, 12:05:11 PM
only trying to help.... :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 27, 2005, 12:12:22 PM
Hopefan must have Rhodes trapped in a closet... :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 27, 2005, 12:32:41 PM
David & smedindy: I assure you there's been no foul play involved.  :D
hopefan is doing a great job and I'm more than happy to let him do the bulk of the work. I can now get a little more sleep, post more in other rooms and read a bit more of the site.

hopefan: Keep up the good work.

P.S. Is Briarcliffe a member of the USCAA or a former member? I'm not sure what the dates in parentheses next to the school's name means. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 27, 2005, 02:18:28 PM
Briarcliffe (http://www2.ncaa.org/media_and_events/association_news/ncaa_news_online/2005/09_26_05/association_wide/4220n11.html) is trying to become one of us, too.

They are everywhere! :o
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2005, 02:54:29 PM
Briarcliffe was not on the list that I had printed last summer, but now appear on the site....  I'll move them from my "other" catagory to USCAA.   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2005, 09:50:11 PM
A few more from the weekend:

Robert Morris Chi   (NAIA-D1)   91   Ohio Wesleyan      72
Lincoln   81      Cheyney   (NCAA-D2)   72   
Westmont   (NAIA-D1)   75        UW River Falls      67
Concordia-Irvine   (NAIA-D1)   78        UW River Falls      75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2005, 09:56:05 PM
Records thru Sunday,missing 2 scores

D3  vs  :
    D1   0 - 23
      NCAA D2    6 - 20
        NAIA-D1    5 - 11
        NAIA - D2  31 - 28
        NCCAA      14 - 1         
         USCAA        23 - 3
            Other         11-0   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 27, 2005, 10:22:17 PM
About what we expected.

D3 record against D1 is kind of like my karma record when I wade onto the OAC football board and dare to say anything about Mt. Union. Sigh....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 27, 2005, 10:27:16 PM
Gee smed, I guess that means that the rest of D3 thinks you are +29!  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on November 28, 2005, 01:35:43 AM
Here's that last score for 11/25:

Notre Dame de Namur (Division II provisional) 66 Husson 64

Thanks for the work you're doing on these scores, guys.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2005, 07:00:56 AM
Thanks GMann for the score  - I thought that was going to be a tough one to find, as neither school had been updating their sites and D3hoops didn't have it.



from late Sunday

Eastern Oregon   NAIA-D2   97    Whitman   84

Missing Saturday  Coe vs Mt Mercy
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 29, 2005, 06:02:54 AM
missing score from the 26th:

Coe   74   Mt Mercy   NAIA-D2   57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 29, 2005, 06:38:10 AM
Scores from Nov 28th:

Illinois Wesleyan     81     St Xavier   (NAIA-D1)   61
Catawba   (NCAA-D2)   76         Chowan   69   
Adrian   93      Andrews   (USCAA)   58


Missing                   Rutgers Camden   vs   Valley Forge Christian
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 29, 2005, 09:26:58 AM
Rutgers-Camden 112, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA) 86
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: joe smith on November 29, 2005, 08:24:02 PM
Bethany WV 71 Wheeling Jesuit 70 (ncaa d2)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 30, 2005, 10:45:03 AM
Colorado Christian (D2) 77, Colorado College 64
Greenville 105, Logan Chiropractic (other) 66
Huntingdon 82, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA) 79
Lake Erie 66, Edinboro (D2) 62
Lakeland 99, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA) 49
Lehigh (D1) 67, Eastern 49
Menlo (NAIA 2) 75, UC Santa Cruz 60
Millikin 101, Indiana-Northwest (NAIA 2) 57
North Park 76, Judson, IL (NAIA 2) 75
Northwestern, MN 78, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 75
Pacific 64, Cascade (NAIA 2) 61
Whitworth 85, Montana Tech (NAIA 1) 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 30, 2005, 11:01:03 AM

Look out for Logan Chiropractic; that's a school with one heck of an athletic tradition... they don't even acknowledge they have athletic teams anywhere on their website.  However, the got this guy who went for 24 and 16 against Greenville??
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 30, 2005, 11:02:26 AM
Additional scores from 11/29

George Fox 78, Northwest Christian (USCAA) 63
Minnesota-Duluth (D2) 81, St. Scholastica 49
Pomona-Pitzer 90, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 66


Missing scores:

Berea @ Centre
Blackburn @ Lincoln Christian
Cardinal Stritch @ Milwaukee Engineering
Lancaster Bible @ Mount Aloysius
St. Louis Pharmacy @ Principia
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 30, 2005, 11:43:36 AM
I thought Chowan was exiled to D2 status??? What is their status anyway??
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 30, 2005, 11:51:38 AM
Blackburn  75  @ Lincoln Christian  43

St. Louis Pharmacy   83  @ Principia  55


I've been including Chowan because they appeared in this year's D3 "Manual"    I note that they do play mostly D2 schools.     Pat doesn't include them in the South region schools.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hjmphelp on November 30, 2005, 11:58:43 AM
from 11/29-
Grinnell 140
Mt Mercy 120
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 30, 2005, 01:31:54 PM
More from 11/29

Centre   69      Berea   (NAIA-D2)   42
MIT   66      Fisher     (NAIA-D2)  58
Ferrum   68      Davis & Elkins      (NCAA-D2)   61
Mt Aloysius     108   Lancaster Bible   (NCCAA-D2)   93
Whittier     88    La Sierra   (USCAA)   49
Maine Maritime   91    Unity    (USCAA)    51
Trevecca Nazarene   (NAIA-D1)   86    Fisk   80
Madonna    (NAIA-D2)   72   Olivet   67
Concordia Mi    (NAIA--D2)   63   Bluffton   62
Northern Michigan   (NCAA-D2)   104   Finlandia   62
Emmaus   (NCCAA-D2)   75   Marantha     68

Now missing only   MSOE  vs Cardinal Stritch
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 30, 2005, 01:59:27 PM
Dang, I can't believe Olivet got beat by a 40-something pop singer...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 30, 2005, 02:43:23 PM
smedindy:

Yea a 40 year old pop singer that's a "virgin" lol   ;D. 

Btw If you're a Little Giant, then you must know my High School Track Coach Rob Johnson, who went to Wabash the year I graduated.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 30, 2005, 04:44:29 PM
Coach Rob is a legend - a legend. He is truly amazing.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 01, 2005, 10:09:06 AM
Augustana 69, St. Ambrose (NAIA 2) 56
Averett 104, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 66
Bethany 93, Ohio-Eastern (other) 60
Calvin 75, Trinity Christian (NAIA 2)
Drake (D1) 102, Cornell 62
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 113, LaGrange 63
Hastings (NAIA 2) 78, Nebraska Wesleyan 59
Kutztown St. (D2) 97, Penn State-Berks 72
Marian (NAIA 2) 70, Concordia, IL 67
Winona St. (D2) 77, St. Mary's, MN 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2005, 11:09:54 AM
Rhodes:
Won't have a chance to go through things til later, but one score definitely missing is my locals' big win:

Maryville Mo  77    McKendree (NAIA-D2)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: augiedad on December 01, 2005, 08:14:49 PM
McKendree is NAIA D1 (ranked #14), not D2.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 01, 2005, 10:29:56 PM
Here a couple I rounded up from yesterday.  If I'm including schools you don't want (i.e. D3 provisionals), please forgive me.

I really appreciate the work you guys do on a here.  It's a huge help to cleaning up our scoreboard.

November 30, 2005

La Verne 93 Life Pacific (NCCAA) 64
Southwest Minnesota State (Division II) 92 Presentation 69
Lyndon State (NAIA-2) 76 St. Joseph's (Maine) 71 OT

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2005, 10:31:17 PM
Rhodes - you listed Marian NAIA D2   vs Concordia, but i believe it was the Marian wisc D3, not the Marian Ind D2   ;)

Here are the rest of Nov 30 scores :

Cal Lutheran   73      La Sierra   (USCAA)   58
Elmira   85      Houghton   (NAIA-D2)   73
Fisk   90      Crichton   (NAIA-D1)   85
Greensboro   111      Atlantic College   (Other)   45
La Verne   93      Life Pacific   (NCCAA)   64
Lyndon St   (NAIA-D2)   76   St Joseph's Me   71   ot
Medgar Evers   82      Pratt   (Other)   53


Still missing MSOE  vs  Cardinal Stritch  Nov 29

Augie Dad   thanks  ...there are two Naia conferences down here, one D2, the other D1  --I get them mixed up at times.


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2005, 07:10:47 AM
from  11/29
Cardinal Stritch   (NAIA-D2)   71   MSOE    59

from 12/1
Redlands   154      Golden Baptist   (USCAA)   107
SUNY Maritime   86   St Joseph's Brooklyn   (USCAA)   63
Fisk   82     Oakwood  (Other)   69
Moody   (NCCAA-D2)   64   Marantha   62   
Claremont Mudd     71     Southwestern Ari  (NCCAA-D2)   43
Eastern   98   Lancaster Bible   (NCCAA-D2)   77
PBU   89   Valley Forge Christian   (NCCAA-D2)   88  ot
Appalacian St  (D1)  87   Methodist    69   
St Louis Pharmacy   (NAIA-D2)   75   Greenville      72   
William Penn   (NAIA-D2)   81   Fontbonne      65   
Mansfield   (NCAA-D2)   92   Ithaca      62   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 02, 2005, 07:33:42 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 01, 2005, 10:31:17 PM
Rhodes - you listed Marian NAIA D2   vs Concordia, but i believe it was the Marian wisc D3, not the Marian Ind D2   ;)

Correct. It was Marian (WI), which will become a conference rival of Concordia (IL) next season when the LMC and the NIIC merge, that defeated the Cougars.

Quote from: augiedad on December 01, 2005, 08:14:49 PM
McKendree is NAIA D1 (ranked #14), not D2.

Don't take that ranking at face value. It was a preseason ranking dated October 26. McKendree has dropped to 4-7 with that loss to Maryville (MO), and they've also lost to other nondescript teams such as Park University (3-10). The first regular-season ranking for NAIA-1 comes out on Monday, and McKendree will be nowhere in sight when it's published.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 02, 2005, 12:46:46 PM
The nice thing about the LMC-NIIC merger is that the net effect is we gain a Pool C bid over the 2004-05 numbers for Pool A's.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2005, 10:15:13 AM
Games of Dec 2

Tristate   79     Marygrove   (USCAA)   52
Skidmore   96      Paul Smith's   (USCAA)   63
Kalamazoo      75        Davenport   (NAIA-D2)   43
Redlands   149       Cal State East Bay   (NAIA-D2)   119
Clarke    74   Mt Mercy   (NAIA-D2)   65
Huntingdon     78   Atlanta Christian   (NCCAA-D2)   65
Liberty  (D1)   84    Lynchburg     50

Missing :
Marantha    -   Emmaus
Bates   -  Maine Fort Kent
Rust  -  Belhaven
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2005, 11:09:57 AM
Additional scores from 12/2

Aquinas (NAIA 2) 92, Finlandia 66
Colorado School of Mines (D2) 93, Bethany Lutheran 66
Defiance 84, Indiana-East (other) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 03, 2005, 07:12:10 PM
Belhaven (NAIA-1) 85, Rust 80.

http://blazers.belhaven.edu/m_basketball/default.htm
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2005, 11:47:22 PM
From yesterday also   

Marantha  68   Emmaus  (NCCAA)  59     
   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 03, 2005, 11:54:14 PM
Bates did beat Maine - Ft. Kent because they won the title at the Husson toruney - or so says the Bates web site.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 04, 2005, 12:59:24 PM
Scores from 12/3

Aquinas (NAIA 2) 64, Kalamazoo 59
Colorado School of Mines (D2) 87, Gwynedd-Mercy 64
High Point (D1) 103, Ferrum 61
Morningside (NAIA 2) 88, Nebraska Wesleyan 82 (OT)
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 75, Rockford 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 04, 2005, 09:27:38 PM
from  12/2

Bates  88   Maine Ft Kent  (NAIA-D2)  43

From 12/3

Pomona Pitzer   57   Hope International   (NAIA-D1)   49
Chapman   112       Cal State East Bay   (NAIA-D2)   84
Defiance   81   Bethel Ind   (NAIA-D2)   73
St Joseph's Me   77   Maine Machias   (NAIA-D2)   64
Luther   79   Waldorf   (NAIA-D2)   49
Johnson St     81   Green Mountain   (NCAA-D2)   72
Alma   83   Lake Superior   (NCAA-D2)   68
Thiel   88   Lancaster Bible   (NCCAA-D2)  72
La Verne   102   La Sierra   (USCAA)   83
Clark   84   Paul Smith's   (USCAA)   70
West Virginia   (D1)   83   W&J   33
IU-South Bend   (NAIA-D1)   68   Anderson   45
Indiana Northwestern   (NAIA-D2)   87   Principia   72
Iowa Wesleyan   (NAIA-D2)   84   Clarke   76
Incarnate Word   (NCAA-D2)   75   Schreiner   60
Grace Bible   (NCCAA-D2)  109    Marantha   71
Apprentice   (USCAA)  64   Santa Cruz    55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 04, 2005, 09:34:11 PM
Records thru Sunday, mossing :
12/4  Occidental  vs  Pacific Union
12/3  Occidental  vs william Jessup
12/3  Maine Presque Isle  Vs Maine Ft Kent

D3  Vs :
     NCAA  D1   0 - 29
     NCAA  D2  12 - 30
     NAIA  D1    10 - 14
     NAIA  D2    48 - 41
     NCCAA        26 - 4
      USCAA       36 - 5
      Other         17 - 0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 04, 2005, 11:46:39 PM
Hopefan - does that 0-29 against D-1 count exhibitions or just full-fledged contests.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2005, 05:34:45 AM
Smedindy  -  that's full fledged count'em in the record games -all since Nov 19.

In exhibitions, i had them at 0 - 25, though I probably missed some games that didn't hit some of the earlier published schedules.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 06, 2005, 09:51:52 AM
Scores from 12/5

Elon (D1) 87, Guilford 63
Fontbonne 89, Concordia-St. Louis (other) 69
Keuka 107, Albany Pharmacy (other) 62
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 96, MacMurray 81
VMI (D1) 97, Ferrum 74

Missing scores:

Whittier @ Biola (NAIA 1)
Polytechnic @ Pratt (other)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 06, 2005, 09:56:16 AM
Rhodes et al.:

I wonder if games v. Concordia Seminary (St. Louis) count as regular-season games (or are they "exhibitions"?) since Concordia is not a four-year institution but rather a graduate school.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 06, 2005, 10:45:11 AM
They seem to be counting it here.  Hmmmm....

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2005, 01:17:50 PM
More scores:

12/5
Lewis & Clark  87   Cascade (NAIA-D2)  69

Whittier at Biola now reads 12/6 on Whittier's page

oldies that came through

12/3
Occidental   88  William Jessup  (NAIA-D2)  73
Belhaven (NAIA-D1) 71   Millsaps  67
Maine Ft Kent  (NAIA-D2) 71  Maine Presque Isle  49

12/4
Occidental  59   Pacific Union (NAIA-D2)  58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 06, 2005, 01:36:58 PM
WT: I really don't know the answer to your question. If I had to guess, I'd probably say it was an exhibition game. I think there are a couple of schools in the "other" category that are not 4-year colleges--e.g. Logan Chiropractic.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2005, 04:31:34 PM
FCnews of SLIAC room fame is not sure, but seems to imply that the Fontbonne game with Concordia Seminary counts  -  he notes that the school does have undergrads (tho he doesn't say whether the team is populated with underlings or grad students), and that the game with Concordia next year IS listed as an exhibition as the SLIAC is growing by 2 more teams and there is limited room for non conference games.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 06, 2005, 04:38:21 PM
Concordia Seminary has undergraduates? Hmmmm ....  ???

Not to pick a nit, but a quick search of the Concordia Web-site shows only graduate degree programs, from M.Div to D.Min to MA to PhD. Also, they have a graduate deaconess program for women; the LCMS does not ordain the ladies.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2005, 10:01:56 PM
hmmmm ... maybe my source (FCnews, are you out there?), isn't as good of a source as he claims to be.... I'll copy your remark in the SLIAC room.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 07, 2005, 02:02:23 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 06, 2005, 01:36:58 PM
WT: I really don't know the answer to your question. If I had to guess, I'd probably say it was an exhibition game. I think there are a couple of schools in the "other" category that are not 4-year colleges--e.g. Logan Chiropractic.

Logan Chiropractic is a club team. They have seven guys in uniform, and one of them doubles as a player-coach.

The SLIAC has a tradition of really unorthodox scheduling. Slating games against such weird entities (in basketball teams, natch ;)) that're located around the Gateway City as Logan Chiropractic, Concordia Seminary, and St. Louis College of Pharmacy goes back for as long as the SLIAC has been a D3 league, and for all I know it goes back further than that. One of these days we're going to see a SLIAC program schedule a game against Ozzie Smith's School of Gymnastics, or the Anheuser-Busch College of Brewmastery.  :D

For a league that sits pretty close to rock-bottom in terms of D3 conference power rankings, you'd think that the SLIAC's members would be trying to jettison those nutty contests in an effort to make themselves collectively better.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 07, 2005, 04:12:32 AM
GS:

FWIW: Concordia Seminary players, grad students all [?], likely played collegiate ball at this or that four-year venue, a good many of them at one of the thousand or so Concordias in the LCMS university system. They could probably take down the Logan Spine Adjustors with little difficulty.  :P
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 07, 2005, 04:32:34 AM
I'm not as sanguine as you are about Concordia Seminary's competence on the hardwood, Warren. Look at what happened when they faced Fontbonne. The Griffins entered the game 0-5 -- and an 0-5 SLIAC team is hardly at what I'd call the pinnacle of the college basketball world. And yet those lowly Griffins beat Concordia Seminary by twenty points. Not exactly a good advertisement for those particular Missouri Synod grad students, eh?

Perhaps all of the former stars of the various Concordias convert to the ELCA after their undergraduate days.  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2005, 05:17:18 AM
I agree Greg, regarding the SLIAC scheduling - just in the back of your mind, don't link Maryville in with that silliness - over the past few years, they have improved their schedule to one as solid as any midwest club could play - that is specificly why I have "adopted" them and see many of their games.  Hopefully that solid schedule will play dividends and help them to a conference title as it did two years ago.
Incidently, FCnews defence of the practice of scheduling the St Louis this and thats of the world was simply "what difference does it make".  I'm just not gonna fight over ther this year - it's hopeless, and too frustrating.
             and before you look it up, solid Maryville scheduling  means Hanover, Transy, McKendree, Manchester, DePauw (if they had beaten Manchester), Mo Baptist , My St Joes and D2 No Georgia in the Bahamas, and Wash u.  SLIAC to be member Lincoln Christian was the only lightweight.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 07, 2005, 06:46:04 AM
Don't worry, Hopefan. I'm well aware that Maryville (MO) is an exception among SLIAC teams when it comes to scheduling. And I'd certainly include Webster as an exception as well; the Gorloks play in that HCAC/SLIAC classic every season, plus they have a home-and-away contract with Wash U that's been going on for several years. Plus, on top of that, they make it a point to get in a game against a CCIW team or two every year. In fact, they've even played a D1 team (Tennessee-Martin) this season.

No SLIAC team can be faulted for playing Lincoln Christian. As you noted, LCC is on its way into the league, and each of the eight current members are playing the Preachers as part of a sort of "getting to know you" pre-membership tour of the league. Likewise, six of the eight SLIAC teams are facing future member Eureka this season as well.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 07, 2005, 07:32:01 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 07, 2005, 04:32:34 AM

Perhaps all of the former stars of the various Concordias convert to the ELCA after their undergraduate days.  :D

Well, it's either that ... or those seminarians who do play spend most of their time
at practice mentally running through Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Latin, and German
vocables and conjugations.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on December 07, 2005, 09:14:50 AM
I am just wondering if the Logan Chiropratic team can get me an adjustment.  My neck is killing me.

C
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 07, 2005, 10:08:44 AM
Scores from 12/6

Alma 103, Marygrove (USCAA) 79
Azusa Pacific (NAIA 1) 89, Occidental 71
Cal Lutheran 88, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 38
Calvin 69, Aquinas (NAIA 2) 52
Dordt (NAIA 2) 90, Martin Luther 48
Fontbonne 82, St. Louis Christian (NCCAA) 53
George Fox 87, Corban (NAIA 2) 82
LaGrange 95, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA) 76
Loras 81, Ashford (NAIA 2) 69
North Central 87, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 59
Shenandoah 102, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 87
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (D1) 86, Trinity, TX 62
Vorhees (NAIA 1) 67, Methodist 59
Wittenberg 65, Cedarville (NAIA 2) 59

Missing scores:

Emmaus Bible @ Dubuque
Principia @ Lincoln Christian
Dana @ Nebraska Wesleyan
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2005, 06:29:26 PM
some  missing scores :

Polytechnic  72   Pratt  (other)  48
Dubuque  90  Emmaus Bible (NCCAA-D2)  63
Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  72   Principia  67
Dana  (NAIA-D2)  74    Nebraska Wesleyan  70
Hope  79   Trinity Christian  NAIA-D2   60
Lyndon St  (NAIA-D2)  77   Daniel Webster  53
Mass College  80  St Joes Vt  (NAIA - D2)  62
Lamar  (D1)  97   Louisiana  68
Biola  (NAIA-D1)   81    Whittier  69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 08, 2005, 09:37:55 AM
Akron (D-1) 123, Denison 52.

Ouch, babe.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 08, 2005, 10:04:52 AM
Scores from 12/7

Albion 65, Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 64
Bethany Lutheran 82, Waldorf (NAIA 2) 78 (OT)
Indiana, PA (D2) 81, Juniata 79
Lewis and Clark 61, Evergreen (NAIA 2) 60
Mary Washington 93, Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 46
Maryville, TN 84, King, TN (NAIA 2) 58
Susquehanna 76, Penn Tech (other) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 08, 2005, 10:25:24 AM
Rhodes:

In basketball, Penn Tech (Williamsport PA) competes in the Penn State University Athletic Conference. In certain other sports, it has different conference affiliations.

For additional information, go to

http://www.pct.edu/athletics/conferences.htm

They don't seem to be a member of any national organization.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 08, 2005, 11:53:24 AM
WT: Since Penn Tech doesn't have a national affiliation, they fall into the "other" category. A couple of years ago, they competed on the junior college level.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 08, 2005, 11:55:34 AM
Rhodes:

I know. I was merely bringing a bit of coal to Newcastle ....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 08, 2005, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on December 08, 2005, 11:55:34 AM
Rhodes:

I know. I was merely bringing a bit of coal to Newcastle ....

...and while the people who live in Newcastle don't need any more coal, we tourists who come to Newcastle come to see the coal, and we can't get enough of it!  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 08, 2005, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 08, 2005, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on December 08, 2005, 11:55:34 AM
Rhodes:

I know. I was merely bringing a bit of coal to Newcastle ....

...and while the people who live in Newcastle don't need any more coal, we tourists who come to Newcastle come to see the coal, and we can't get enough of it!  ;D

There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. The coal in Newcastle as endorsed by David Collinge.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 08, 2005, 12:48:19 PM
Actually, people come to New Castle to see the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame, and the world's largest high school gym (over 9,000 capacity).

Oh, wrong New Castle... ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 08, 2005, 04:45:40 PM
I come to Newcastle for the Brown Ale. Mmm. Tasty enough to make a Geordie out of me!  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 08, 2005, 05:10:13 PM
Greg:

Newcastle Brown Ale is pure nectar.

After we spent a sabbatical year at the University of Durham, just south of Newcastle, our daughter at age four came home with a Geordie accent (e.g. "Mummie, where are me dullies? I cannut fine me dullies").
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 09, 2005, 10:30:26 AM
Scores from 12/8

DePauw 104, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 79
Elizabethtown 77, Millersville (D2) 60
Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 55, Linfield 41
Ferrum 64, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 61
Grand View (NAIA 2) 77, Simpson 74
Marian 74, Northland Baptist (NCCAA) 48
Northwestern, MN 81, Crossroads (ACCA) 45
Redlands 130, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 93
Siena Heights (NAIA 2) 64, Adrian 61
Southern Polytechnic State (NAIA 1) 97, Piedmont 67
Thiel 107, Penn State-DuBois (other) 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2005, 11:31:45 AM
a couple more scores:
from 12/7
Maine Ft Kent  (NAIA-D2)  81  Maine Presque Isle  57
Brockport St  95   Roberts Wesleyann  (NAIA-D2)  82
Catawba  (NCAA-D2)  84    Chowan  67

12/8
Geneva  (NAIA-D2)  62  Grove City  59
Cascade  (NAIA-D2)  55   Linfield  41

Still missing from 12/8

Sunyit vs Paul Smith's
Dallas  vs Dallas Christian

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2005, 05:17:56 AM
scores

12/8
Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  75   U of Dallas  70
SUNYIT  84  Paul Smith's  (USCAA)  66

12/9
Cabrini  119  Penn Tech (Other)  84
Taylor  (NAIA-D2)  67   Greenville  47
Hope  83   Madonna  (NAIA-D2)  76
Coe  80   Mt Mercy (NAIA-D2)  64
Concordia St Paul  (NCAA-D2)  91   St John's  69
Northwest  (NAIA-D2  79)    Pac Lutheran  66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 10, 2005, 06:48:42 AM
Wow!  Dallas Christian defeated UDallas!  Usually UDallas defeats DCC by double digits.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2005, 08:31:29 AM
Ralph, when I saw that UD beat Caltech by only single digits, it gave them automatic admission to "bottom 10" candidacy, and showed they were at a level of the Dallas Christian's of the world.   Incidently, when I was looking for that score I went to the Dallas Christian site - their athletic site was making a big deal of the signing of a GOOD local player - didn't mean anything to me, but may be interesting to you.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 10, 2005, 05:35:04 PM
The names on the Dallas Christian College web site did not meanmuch to me, but then I am not too ardent of a follower of High School talent.

UDallas was in the ASC-East until 2001.  They always guaranteed my seeing a McMurry game.  I was disappointed when they went independent.  UDallas has had an acceptable run in Pool B.  I believe they have earned a Men's Pool B Hoops and Baseball bid since the move and a Women's Soccer bid.  UDallas was not successful in starting a club football team in 2003, which may have set back their athletic program more than we know.

They do have a Phi Beta Kappa Chapter, which seems to be other criteria sought by the SCAC as it expands to 12 teams, (football being the other). ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Matt Letourneau on December 11, 2005, 01:38:21 AM
Catholic played D1 Davidson tonight.  Davidson was fresh off a nice win against Missouri and has a good RPI thanks to a tough schedule that included Duke.

The final was 80-56, Davidson.  Catholic's 6'9 Shane Sowden led all scorers with 19.  Overall, CUA played pretty good defense.  Not a bad showing against a very good team.  In their final exhibition tune-up last month, the Cardinals came very close to beating American on the road.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 12, 2005, 10:45:36 AM
Scores from 12/10

Alma 67, Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 65
Arkansas Tech (D2) 85, University of the Ozarks 65
Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 80, Greenville 71
Concordia-Portland (NAIA 2)104, Pacific Lutheran 67
Grinnell 137, Grand View (NAIA 2) 110
Northland Baptist (NCCAA) 90, Maranatha Baptist 77
Hood 68, Penn Tech (other) 66
Immaculata 62, Williamson Trade (USCAA) 55
Incarnate Word (D2) 70, Schreiner 53
Northwest Nazarene (NAIA 2) 91, Willamette 84
Piedmont 101, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA) 86
Redlands 125, Hope International (NAIA 1) 115 (OT)
Sioux Falls (NAIA 2) 75, Nebraska Wesleyan 55
Warner Pacific (NAIA 2) 90, Whitman 78
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 70, Millikin 68
Rowan 93, Newport News (USCAA) 67
St. Ambrose (NAIA 2) 95, Buena Vista 79
St. John's 72, St. Cloud State (D2) 67
Webster 87, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA) 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2005, 12:12:27 PM
more 12/10 scores to add to Rhodes Scholar  -  it was a busy day!!

Westmont (NAIA D1)  68   Cal Lutheran  51
Central  76  Wm Penn  (NAIA-D2) 73
Dubuque 86  Mt Mercy (NAIA-D2)  85
Finlandia  80  Northland  (NAIA-D2)  76  ot
SMU  (D1)  85  Hardin Simmons  70
Hope  82  Aquinas  (NAIA-D2) 75
So Oregon  (NAIA-D2) 80  Linfield  59
Mt Aloysius  109  Valley Forge  (NCCAA)  61
Mt St Mary  66  Briarcliffe  (USCAA)  56
Plattsburgh  82  Green Mountain  (NCAA-D2) 39
Simpson  74  Iowa Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  72
Marian Ind (NAIA-D2)  103  Tristate  62
Wartburg  95  Ashford  (NAIA-D2)  54
Northland Baptist  (NCCAA)  90  Marantha  77


missing Dec 10 scores

maine Maritime  vs  Fisher
Maine Presque Isle  vs  Unity
Pomona Pitzer  vs La Sierra
Rust  vs Toogaloo
Santa Cruz  vs Life Pacific
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: bouttime on December 12, 2005, 01:08:08 PM
Interesting game for Carnegie Mellon coming up on december 28th against D1 Princeton. Should be a great indication of how good this year's Tartan squat really is.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2005, 06:25:22 AM
scores :
12/11
Moorhead St  (NCAA-D2)  78   Concordia Moorhead 56

12/12
Fontbonne     78   Lincoln Christian    (NCCAA-D2)    77
Christopher Newport   88   Maryland Bible   (other)   57
Rowan   96       Lancaster Bible   (NCCAA-D2)   42

Missing  Marantha  vs  Viterbo
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2005, 06:44:32 AM
New Records D3 vs:

D1   0 - 36
NCAA  D2    15  -  37
NAIA D1   13 - 20
NAIA  D2  73  -  61
NCCAA  37  -  7
USCAA   45 - 7
Other   26 - 0
 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 13, 2005, 12:32:59 PM
12/12 Missing Score

Viterbo (NAIA 2) 78 Maranatha Baptist 46

I'm not sure if you got these two or not...

12/10

Fisher (NAIA 2) 86 Maine Maritime 78 OT

12/11

Maine Maritime 73 Unity (USCAA) 23
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2005, 12:57:56 PM
Thanks Gordon  -  I just found those scores over lunch! They were among the missing.

Also

Santa Cruz  75  Life Pacific  (USCAA)  65
Rust  93   Toogaloo  (NAIA-D1)  67
Pomona Pitzer  57  LaSierra (USCAA)  45

Only missing Maine Presque Isle scores vs Fisher and Unity

Judging from Maine Maratime - Unity score, Unity must be having a down season
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 13, 2005, 04:42:19 PM
Wow.  Kudos on finding the Rust/Toogaloo score.

Rust games involving Oakwood, Toogaloo, etc are not easily unearthed.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 13, 2005, 05:02:36 PM
I think the Presque Isle scores must come in via dog sled, though.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 13, 2005, 05:14:56 PM
That's usually the case, but the dogs all died in the last nor'easter - we may NEVER know their scores!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2005, 07:38:39 PM
amusing story regarding Presque Isle   - I emailed the AD asking for the weekend scores yesterday  -  no response;  so today i emailed his Admin assistant  -  she responded immediately that she forwarded my request to..... the AD.  Had to reply that I had already tried that direction with no result.  Funny  no result from her request either.   I tried the coach late this afternoon....    no SID listed.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 13, 2005, 07:47:38 PM
They have E-MAIL in Presque Isle??!

(Maybe there is your problem.) ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 14, 2005, 12:00:36 AM
Hey, we'll take scores by semaphore, an Aldis Lamp, anything...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 14, 2005, 01:43:45 PM
Score from 12/13

Widener 75, Wilmington, DE (D2) 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 14, 2005, 01:56:20 PM

They have email, but its all in french up there and they have to get everything translated, so it takes some time.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 14, 2005, 02:08:24 PM
Merde!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2005, 02:45:42 PM
Well, I don't know if my 5 emails did anything to help, but the Maine Presque Isle scores finally got posted on their site!!!

Maine Presque Isle  103  Unity  (USCAA)  49
Fisher (NAIA D2)  80  Maine Presque Isle  65

See my further comments on the Survivor page.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 15, 2005, 09:34:49 AM
Scores from 12/14

Averett 80, Newport News (USCAA) 60
Bethany, CA (NAIA 2) 76, UC Santa Cruz 70
Fisk 74, Wilberforce (NAIA 2) 54
MacMurray 96, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 16, 2005, 09:45:09 AM
Scores from 12/15

Cal Baptist (NAIA 1) 89, La Sierra 45
Davidson (D1) 112, St. Mary's, MD 59
Furman (D1) 99, Sewanee 69
Maryville, MO 86, Missouri Baptist (NAIA 1) 83 (OT)
Wiley (NAIA 1) 85, East Texas Baptist 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2005, 11:57:41 AM
Scores we missed

Briarcliffe (USCAA)  72    Centenary  66
Blackburn  67   Robert Morris Springfield  (USCAA)  65
Mt Olive (NCAA-D2)  89  Chowan  62

12/16/05
UNC Greensboro   (D1)   85   Greensboro   47
Portland St   (D1)   85      Lewis&Clark   59
Southern Oregon    (NAIA-D2)   56    Pacific   49
Va Wesleyan   98   Apprentice   (USCAA)   51
Ferrum  63    Davis & Elkins   (NCAA-D2)   56
Spring Hill   (NAIA-D1)   80   Methodist   72

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 17, 2005, 05:56:01 PM
Do we have any outstanding scores that we need to put a search party on?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2005, 07:03:27 PM
scores from 12/17    tough day for D3

Colgate   (D1)   72   Hobart   47
Loyola Ill   (D1)   87   Lake Forest    72
Army   (D1)   53   SUNY Maritime   36
Whittier   75   La Sierra   (USCAA)   54
Claremont Mudd   73   Westmont   (NAIA-D1)   70
Mobile   (NAIA-D1)   70   Methodist   55
Biola   (NAIA-D1)   63   Pomona Pitzer   54
Waldorf   (NAIA-D2)   70   Augsburg   59
Warner Pacific   (NAIA-D2)   86   Linfield   72
Concordia Ore   (NAIA-D2)   84   Pac Lutheran   75
UW Whitewater   98   Haskell   (NAIA-D2)   49
UMSL   (NCAA-D2)   89   Blackburn   70
Chadron St   (NCAA-D2)   65   Colorado College   52
Cal St LA   (NCAA-D2)   138     Redlands   107
Rhodes   87   Pratt   (NCAA-D2)   56
Northern Michigan      (NCAA-D2)   75   St Norbert   60


Smed  :  missing
Pacific   vs  NW cHristian
Chowan  (still D3 I think)  vs  St Paul's
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2005, 07:10:39 PM
Records thru Saturday

D3  vs  :

    D1    0  -  43
    D2    18  -  42
    NAIA D1   15  -  24
    NAIA D2    77  -  68
    NCCAA    40  -  7
     USCAA    52  -  8
     Other      26  -  0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 18, 2005, 07:51:33 PM
I myself wouldn't count Chowan if Pat isn't.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2005, 08:44:11 PM
well, yeah,  BUT  - they (Chowan) are listed in this year's NCAA DIII Basketball manual - so I'm not sure why Pat choses not to recognize them  -  I also see LaSierra is not listed, but Pat recognizes them.   I just don't know Pat's thoughts on it.... Pat.. you out there???? :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2005, 09:14:14 PM
LaSierra is in year #1 of the 4 year provisional status.

The Provisional Ladder currently has:

Year #4: Spelman GA (GSAC-Women)

Year #3: Finlandia MI(Indep), Mount Mary WI (Indep), UTexas-Tyler (ASC-East), Green Mountain VT (Indep).

Year #2: UMinn-Morris from D2 and Crown MN in the Upper Midwest AC; Mount Aloysius PA in the AMCC; Keystone PA and PSU-Berks in the NEAC;  Tri-State IN in the MIAA; Maine-Presque Isle (Indep).

Year #1: Bethany Lutheran WI,  Northwestern WI, Presentation SD in UMAC; Mitchell (Pequots, a tribe of Native Americans) CT (Indep), North Central MN (Indep), SUNY-Purchase (NEAC), LaSierra CA (Indep),  Salem NC (Indep).

Slated to begin Provisional next year are:

Point Park PA, Seton Hill PA, UTexas-Permian Basin

In the Exploratory year in 2005-06:

Briarcliffe NY; UCincinatti Clermont; SUNY-Cobleskill; Doane, NE; Franciscan U, Steubenville OH;  Geneva PA; Lancaster Bible College PA;  Lincoln Christian MO (SLIAC-bound); Lyndon State College VT (which sets up the potential match up of Lyndon State vs Johnson State  :D ); SUNY-Morrisville; PSU-Harrisburg; St Vincent PA; Spaulding KY; St Joseph's VT: St Joseph's NY.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 18, 2005, 09:32:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2005, 09:14:14 PM
Lyndon State College VT (which sets up the potential match up of Lyndon State vs Johnson State  :D )

So, is there a Baines State anywhere? ;) ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 18, 2005, 09:44:56 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2005, 08:44:11 PM
well, yeah,  BUT  - they (Chowan) are listed in this year's NCAA DIII Basketball manual - so I'm not sure why Pat choses not to recognize them  -  I also see LaSierra is not listed, but Pat recognizes them.   I just don't know Pat's thoughts on it.... Pat.. you out there???? :)

Ralph covers why we list La Sierra. Not sure why the NCAA book doesn't. Perhaps La Sierra has delayed its entrance.

We do not recognize Chowan because they are offering basketball scholarships. Seems cut and dried to me. The NCAA doesn't classify them as D-II until closer to the end of their transitional period, but we won't consider them D-III if they give athletic scholarships.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2005, 10:15:31 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 18, 2005, 09:32:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2005, 09:14:14 PM
Lyndon State College VT (which sets up the potential match up of Lyndon State vs Johnson State  :D )

So, is there a Baines State anywhere? ;) ;D

I googled "baines.edu" and got nothing.  :( ???
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on December 18, 2005, 10:46:30 PM
Chowan is not playing by the spirit or the bylawas of D3 qand should not be considered a member, even if the NCAA, in its incomprehensible logic allows them to compete at the D3 level.  This from an organizaiton that suspends players at this level for accepting rides to the airport.  Go figure.

C
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 18, 2005, 11:14:46 PM
If Chowan now offers scholarships, they surely are not allowed in d3 tourneys, are they?  That would seem to be a MAJOR infraction, as in DEATH PENALTY in d1 sports!

Thuys, whatever they may be labeled, Pat is absolutely correct to omit them from d3.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2005, 07:04:49 AM
Interesting listing from Ralph about the provisional schools  -  brings out some questions because I'm not familiar with the process.

is a year 4 provisional 4 years away from full status, meaning they just started, or have they been thru 4 years of provisional, and are therefore on the doorstep of full status?
What is an exploratory year? Are the schools exploring, or is the NCAA?
Why do some of the schools already have connections to D3 conferences, while some seem to have retained their NAIA or USCAA or NCCAA conference affiliations.
Several of the schools mentioned I think of as primarily 2 year schools - ie Cobleskill, Morrisville, Franciscan   --would students in a 2 year program be eligible for their school's team?  I'm surprised that those schools have enough 4 year programs to provide students for a team, tho I'm probably living in the past. 

Ralph - thanks much for the education and listings......  tho I guess it brings another question as to why the NCAA manual lists some schools and not others - with the NCAA, who knows.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2005, 10:09:46 AM
From 12/17

Pacific 64, Northwest Christian (USCAA) 61

hopefan: Great job!  Only one correction--Pratt is not an NCAA member; they belong in the "other" category.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 19, 2005, 12:08:36 PM
Year 4's on on the doorstep, yes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 19, 2005, 09:05:30 PM
Hopefan, 

is a year 4 provisional 4 years away from full status, meaning they just started, or have they been thru 4 years of provisional, and are therefore on the doorstep of full status? Doorstep.  (I understand that the GSAC-Women will move to full AQ status next year.  Spelman will be the 8th team.)

What is an exploratory year? Are the schools exploring, or is the NCAA?--Both, as I understand it.

Why do some of the schools already have connections to D3 conferences, while some seem to have retained their NAIA or USCAA or NCCAA conference affiliations.  I have put the current affiliations or their previous affiliation.  Most recent is listed in these cases.  UT-Tyler, Tri-State, Geneva, St Vincent, have been in discussions with existing conferences that are expanding. The  "UMAC's", "NEAC's" and "AMCC's" have been in discussion with those schools in the conferences' formation.

Several of the schools mentioned I think of as primarily 2 year schools - ie Cobleskill, Morrisville, Franciscan   --would students in a 2 year program be eligible for their school's team?  I'm surprised that those schools have enough 4 year programs to provide students for a team, tho I'm probably living in the past.   These are schools that are moving from 2-year to 4-year status.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 20, 2005, 08:56:59 AM

Way to come through with the info Ralph.  And I never noticed the Lyndon- Johnson thing, which is odd, having lived in Johnson, Vermont for several years.  It is Vermont, I'm sure if we could get one of those retired hippies enough weed, he'd change the name of one of the other state schools to Baines, just for kicks... although hippies, I guess, wouldn't be real big fans of LBJ.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2005, 10:35:59 AM
Scores from 12/19

Biola (NAIA 1) 80, Chapman 60
Birmingham Southern (D1) 86, Millsaps 58
Bucknell (D1) 76, Haverford 44
DeSales 76, Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 56
Lycoming 69, Penn College (other) 43
North Georgia (D2) 103, Maryville, MO 93
Northwest Nazarene (D2) 96, Colorado College 57
Waynesburg 78, Penn State-New Kensington (other) 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 20, 2005, 02:30:32 PM
scores from Dec 18

Navy   (D1)   106   Washington College   80
Master's   (NAIA-D1)     77    Ripon  73
North Central  80   Mt Marty   (NAIA-D2)     69
UW Oshkosh  76   Haskell   (NAIA-D2)   55
Westfield St   99   Fisher   (NAIA-D2)   85
So New Hampshire   (NCAA-D2)   104   Rivier  58
Lemoyne   (NCAA-D2)   94     Cazenovia   57

Add on Dec 19

Bluffton  72    Marygrove  ( NAIA-D2)  68


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 21, 2005, 10:28:59 AM
Scores from 12/20

Lafayette (D1) 72, Dickinson 52
Loras 60, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 53
Rowan 96, Penn State-Abington (other) 69
Tri-State 79, Purdue North Central (NAIA 2) 74
University of the Sciences (D2) 80, Gwynedd-Mercy 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Loggerville on December 21, 2005, 11:38:55 PM
UC-Riverside (D1) up five (70-65) on Puget Sound with 15:50 to play....game can be heard here if anyone is interested....
http://www.athletics.ucr.edu/administrative/webcasts.html
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Loggerville on December 22, 2005, 12:08:29 AM
both teams in the penalty....Riverside has had two starters fouled out, three in total

UC-Riverside - 98
Puget Sound - 100

5:43 left.

"Crazy basketball game, I have never seen anything like this" quote from the radio guy.  Funny.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 22, 2005, 12:17:02 AM
Loggerville:

Pat Coleman and I are both listening and, I think it's safe to say, cheering for UPS.

Glad to have you aboard.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Loggerville on December 22, 2005, 12:30:35 AM
Final @ UC-Riverside

Puget Sound - 115
UC-Riversides (D-1) - 111

UPS was down 18 at one point in the first-half and faced a 13 def. at the break.  Good solid win.  Riverside beat Redlands (not saying much but their only other D3 game of the season) 162-123 in an exhib. in early Nov.

Loggers move to 7-1 to set up their 12/29 date with IUW...should be a good one.  :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2005, 10:36:52 AM
Scores from 12/21

Bluffton 78, Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 66
Davidson (D1) 108, Clark 57
Malone (NAIA 2) 89, North Park 88
Menlo (NAIA 2) 63, Mt. St. Joseph 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 23, 2005, 10:07:05 AM
Scores from 12/22

Ashland (D2) 77, Hiram 57
Cleveland State (D1) 84, John Carroll 53
Long Island University (D1) 80, CCNY 39
Texas-Arlington (D1) 87, Texas-Tyler 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 23, 2005, 12:37:53 PM
Additional score from 12/22

Bluefield State (NAIA 2) 89, North Park 81
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 27, 2005, 06:40:55 PM
to date

D3  vs  :

D1   1 - 54
D2   17 - 49
NAIA D1    15 - 26
NAIA D2    83 - 74 
NCCAA    41 - 7
USCAA    56 - 8
Other    27 - 0

Lots of tourney games vs Non D3 this week!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hugenerd on December 27, 2005, 09:52:31 PM
Carnegie plays Princeton tomorrow night at 7:30, live stats and audio are available at goprincetontigers.com.  CMU is averaging 91.6 points per game while Princeton is averaging 43.7 ppg.  It will fun to see who's style dictates the game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: cawcdad on December 28, 2005, 09:54:59 AM
If a win over a D-I is desired, teams should schedule Mississippi Valley State. They are terrible. I saw them play and get beat lasty week by NAIA Concordia (CA).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 28, 2005, 11:14:02 AM
Concordia is a good NAIA - I program (10th last year in Massey for NAIA-I). MVSU is struggling, though, for sure. Wolfe and Massey have them well behind several other D-2, D-3 and NAIA programs and Pomeroy and Sagarin have them at about the 10th worst D-1 program going right now.

The worst two D-1 programs seem to be Savannah State or Morehead State.  UConn just beat Morehead by 68 points.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 28, 2005, 11:30:43 PM
I do think that Carnegie Mellon's win over Princeton says more about Princeton that about C-M.

If Princeton can't shoot - they're done.

They shot horrifically tonight - much like they did in the debacle against Monmouth. Yet, they beat Wyoming, who is a fairly OK team in a good conference.

Great win for C-M, though. This means that there may be a new Ivy champ besides Princeton and Penn.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hail Carnegie on December 29, 2005, 10:48:21 AM
Don't be so quick to say it says more about Princeton than Carnegie Mellon. I won't argue that Princeton sucks big time, but this CMU team was a game away from winning the UAA last year and is now 10-0 with a win in Rochester. Plus, this group of kids has always been able to hang with Division I schools to an extent. A few years ago they gave Robert Morris a run for their money up until the last five minutes, and last year they lead nationally-ranked Pitt at halftime. They're a very good team right now.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 29, 2005, 11:07:42 AM
Not saying they're not a good team, but my point was that it definitely revealed that the Monmouth game was not a fluke - and Princeton will struggle big time this year if they don't shoot well. In the past, Princeton was able to execute its offense and overcome bad shooting from the outside no matter what the other team was trying to do. This time, against teams that like to push the tempo, they need to be able to shoot otherwise they're going to struggle.

That's why it says more about Princeton that C-M.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 29, 2005, 01:10:12 PM
Scores from 12/27

Biola (NAIA 1) 101, Elmira 56
Clarke 92, Purdue-North Central (NAIA 2) 55
Hawaii Pacific (D2) 79, St. John's 62
Ottawa, KS (NAIA 2) 70, Marywood 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 29, 2005, 01:17:19 PM
Scores from 12/28

Albion 79, Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 65
Biola (NAIA 1) 90, Linfield 52
Carnegie Mellon 51, Princeton (D1) 46
Chaminade (D2) 95, St. John's 70
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 86, McDaniel 56
John Carroll 97, Goshen (NAIA 2) 89
Westminster, PA 94, Ottawa, KS (NAIA 2) 89
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 30, 2005, 07:52:45 AM
Robert Morris (PA) blasted Medaille 109-36. This is one of those inane D-1 vs. D-3 matchups. You're coming off a winless season and you schedule a D-1 team? Hmmmm... :-\
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 30, 2005, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: smedindy on December 30, 2005, 07:52:45 AM
Robert Morris (PA) blasted Medaille 109-36. This is one of those inane D-1 vs. D-3 matchups. You're coming off a winless season and you schedule a D-1 team? Hmmmm... :-\

smed:

"Inane" or insane?  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: PowerBall on December 30, 2005, 01:42:28 PM
I attended the CMU Princeton game and found it to be the tale of two teams.  Princeton has a great deal of turmoil internally and lack of depth on the team and CMU out coached Princeton for the win.  The Tartans did not bring their "A" game, yet despite the turnovers they withstood the pressure from the Tigers to win. 

Over the last 3 years the Tartans have taken the challenge to improve over the previous year.  Even with key seniors graduating the program has relied on its fundamental style of pressure defense and aggressive offense to show up competitvely.  Last year they fell one game short of their objective to play in the NCAA.  They are on a mission again this year.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2005, 02:41:55 PM
Scores from 12/29

Bluffton 106, Illinois-East (other) 79
Cal St.-Monterey Bay (D2) 90, Fontbonne 53
Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 92, UW-Superior 55
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 68, Oglethorpe 61
Grace (NAIA 2) 88, Buena Vista 65
Hanover 70, Berea (NAIA 2) 63
La Verne 102, Notre Dame de Namur (D2) 96 (OT)
Lakeland 75, Goshen (NAIA 2) 67
Lewis and Clark 82, Simon Fraser (other) 79
Marian, IN (NAIA 2) 71, Olivet 63
Minot State (NAIA 2) 92, Presentation 75
Navy (D1) 86, Susquehanna 54
Northern Arizona (D1) 96, Pacific Lutheran 59
Ohio Dominican (NAIA 2) 95, Guilford 78
Robert Morris-Chicago (NAIA 1) 99, Clarke 71
St. Thomas 83, Culver-Stockton (NAIA 2) 69
The Master's (NAIA 1) 90, Willamette 86 (OT)
Tiffin (NAIA 2) 74, Millikin 72
University of the Sciences (D2) 85, Chestnut Hill 67
Vanguard (NAIA 1) 82, Beloit 68
Viterbo (NAIA 2) 80, Macalester 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 31, 2005, 04:14:33 PM
I'm not positive of their affiliation (I think it's NAIA II) but UWSP lost to Mid-American Nazerean yesterday.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2005, 04:25:03 PM
Scores from 12/30

Babson 78, Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 75
Bluffton 63, Tiffin (NAIA 2) 55
Buena Vista 86, Purdue North Central (NAIA 2) 68
Central 77, Waldorf (NAIA 2) 65
Chaminade (D2) 80, Chapman 62
Claremont-Mudd Scripps 74, Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) 72 (OT)
DeSales 85, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 64
Emory and Henry 128, Berea (NAIA 2) 114
Henderson State (D2) 90, McMurry 73
Illinois Wesleyan 76, Westmont (NAIA 1) 60
Lawrence 64, Vangaurd (NAIA 1) 59
LeMoyne (D2) 72, Baruch 65
Loras 75, Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 74
Menlo (NAIA 2) 57, Pacific 42
MidAmerica Nazarene (NAIA 2) 77, UW-Stevens Point 64
Millikin 74, Indiana-East (other) 58
North Central 107, Judson, IL (NAIA 2) 46
Ohio Dominican (NAIA 2) 51, Greensboro 48
Ramapo 74, Biola (NAIA 1) 70 (OT)
Regis, CO (D2) 64, Calvin 57
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 62, Concordia, IL 50
Sam Houston State (D1) 83, LeTourneau 37
Simpson 89, Culver-Stockton (NAIA 2) 60
Texas State (D1) 84, Texas-Tyler 71
Valley City State (NAIA 2) 82, Presentation 45
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2005, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 31, 2005, 04:14:33 PM
I'm not positive of their affiliation (I think it's NAIA II) but UWSP lost to Mid-American Nazerean yesterday.

PointSpecial: I just posted scores from 12/30. You're right--MidAmerica Nazarene is NAIA 2.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 03, 2006, 10:46:46 AM

But they also stink, so I'm not sure what that means for the Point.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 03, 2006, 12:29:55 PM
Score from 12/30

Calvin 85, Colorado Christian (D2) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 03, 2006, 12:33:55 PM
Scores from 1/2

Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 72, Wesley 52
Minnesota-Morris 60, Valley City State (NAIA 2) 58
UW-Stevens Point 73, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 04, 2006, 10:09:39 AM
Scores from 1/3

BYU-Hawaii (D2) 67, Chapman 61
Dakota State (NAIA 2) 79, Presentation 65
Flagler (NAIA 2) 79, Gallaudet 76
UMass-Boston 80, Georgia Southwestern State (NAIA 1) 77
Shepherd (D2) 78, Penn State-Berks 66
Trinity Christian (NCCAA) 79, La Verne 72
William Jewell (NAIA 2) 83, Wesley 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2006, 10:13:24 AM
Scores from 1/4

Doane (NAIA 2) 64, Nebraska Wesleyan 51
Lehigh (D1) 80, Muhlenberg 70
Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 67, Gallaudet 60
Shenandoah 84, Davis and Elkins (D2) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 05, 2006, 11:52:52 AM

Wow, Muhlenberg got within ten of Lehigh?  I'm sure that after this year, nobody in D1 will be scheduling any of us anymore...sad.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 06, 2006, 09:56:31 AM
Scores from 12/5

Dickinson 88, Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 61
FDU-Florham 80, Briarcliff (USCAA) 59
Greenville 84, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA) 68
Whittier 95, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 06, 2006, 10:10:02 AM

Can we get an update on the d3 record vs other divisions?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 06, 2006, 11:34:35 AM
hoopsfan     I'll will have time to update records tonite or tomorrow morn
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 06, 2006, 10:31:22 PM
Through Jan 5 games

D3  versus :

D1              2  -  60
D2             19  -  58
NAIA  D1    21  -  30
NAIA  D2   105  -  94
NCCAA        44  -  7
USCAA        60  -  8
Other          30  -  0   Almost lost our perfect record the other night when
                                  Lewis & Clark beat Simon Fraser (Canada)  by 3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 06, 2006, 10:39:12 PM
By my arithmetic, we are now 281-257.  We may be 'bottom-of-the-barrel' to the NCAA, but we are 'above-average' among all bball teams!

And I would bet that our graduation rates are above those 'above' us AND those 'below' us!

d3 - where it's at! ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 07, 2006, 10:02:52 AM
Scores from 12/6

Cornell, NY (D1) 78, Keuka 52
Newport News (USCAA) 64, Misericordia 62
Palm Beach Atlantic (D2) 85, Lesley 79
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 07, 2006, 07:03:56 PM
Simon Fraser participates in the NAIA, but it is not listed as participating in the NAIA-1 or NAIA-2 for the bsaketball championships.  You have correctly listed them as other  (Canadian Interuniversity Sport). :)

http://naia.collegesports.com/member-services/about/members.htm


http://cis.infinityprosports.com/2004/index.php?page=standings&season_id=2005&sport_name=mbasketball
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2006, 10:51:41 AM
Scores from 1/7

Columbia (D1) 82, CCNY 42
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 99, Elms 95 (OT)
Ferrum 82, Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 62
Gallaudet 78, Maryland Bible (NCCAA) 50
Lakeland 86, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 56
Northwestern, IA (NAIA 2) 99, Nebraska Wesleyan 88
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 75, Edgewood 72
Salisbury 81, Newport News (USCAA) 71
Waynesburg 91, Penn State-Fayette (other) 83
Wisconsin Lutheran 74, Indiana-South Bend (NAIA 1) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: cawcdad on January 08, 2006, 11:15:57 AM
IWU beat Puget Sound which beat DI UC-Riverside which last night beat Pacific (Stockton, CA) which made it to the second round of the DI NCAA tourney last year (and 9-5 so far this year). Hmmm. Just having some fun.  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2006, 11:25:45 AM
I saw the CCNY @ Columbia game yesterday. City played the Lions tough for most of the first half. Columbia led by only three, 22-19, with seven minutes left in the opening half. Then it became real ugly. Columbia went on a 39-2 run, holding the Beavers to a grand total of two points over the next 16 minutes.

The two teams were comparable in terms of athleticism, but Columbia had a huge size advantage (two to five inches at each position) and were much more physical than CCNY. Plus, Columbia's players were more skilled and far sounder on fundamentals.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hugenerd on January 08, 2006, 12:15:22 PM
cawcdad, Ive got one for you:

CMU beat Princeton, who beat Wyoming, who beat Charlotte, who beat Dayton, who beat Cincinnati, who beat LSU, who beat West Virginia, who made it to the D1 Elite 8 last year!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 08, 2006, 12:21:48 PM
The Ivy League is an unusual circumstance.  There are a select demographic group of national athletes with at least mid-level D1 talent and 1500+ SAT scores who want the prestige and cachet of playing Ivy League basketball.

They could ride the bench at State U, but instead find a cohort of similar players who have chosen to attend an Ivy League school more to their goals and interests.

I would say that same for the UAA, the NESCAC and a few other regional premier D3 schools.

This is not to belittle this group of athletes, but rather to understand the demographic base from which they come. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: cawcdad on January 08, 2006, 02:14:35 PM
I like that one hugenerd. I enjoy playing the game, but really all these connections do though is create discussion and prove that on any given day . . .
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on January 08, 2006, 11:23:11 PM
I figured I'd repost this here.

Bad comedy is a like a virus.  A virus that must be wiped out with the Biola vaccine.

FAVORITE RANDOM OPPONENTS ON D3 SCHEDULES

1 - Logan Chiropractic: Reigning champs until someone schedules Panhandle State.

2 - Life Pacific:  Sounds like a Fox show.  "This week on Life Pacific, after the O.C..."

3 - East-West: That about covers it.  :)

4 - Valley City State: I humbly submit that they should be the Hill Villages of Valley City State.

5 - Anything with "Pharmacy" in it:  Go Fightin' 'Phetamines!

6 - Dordt: Just fun to say.  Go ahead and say it out loud.  A guaranteed smile. "Dordt."  :)

7 - Davis & Elkins: I think they opened for Emerson, Lake and Palmer in 1976

8 - Toogaloo: Back end of the dreaded Philander Smith-Toogaloo road trip

9 - The Master's:  A tradition unlike any other.  Viva former Laker Mike Penberthy!

10 - Colorado School of Mines:  I couldn't skip them.  After all, a mine is a terrible thing to waste (ducking tomato).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 08, 2006, 11:32:34 PM
gordonmann,

I just want to see more Chiropractic vs. Pharmacy match-ups!  Talk about a grudge match! ;) ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 08, 2006, 11:46:10 PM
Can you find the Doane's Pills at Albany Pharmacy?

I just wish that Christian Bible College, in Rocky Mount NC,

http://www.christianbiblecollege.org/

had a basketball team, so they could play Baptist Bible College.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 09, 2006, 12:00:04 AM
Ralph,

You couldn't be satisfied with Catholic vs. Methodist? ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 09, 2006, 02:19:30 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 08, 2006, 11:46:10 PM
Can you find the Doane's Pills at Albany Pharmacy?

No, but I'm sure that you could find them in the NAIA's Great Plains Athletic Conference, also the home of D3's equivalent of the abandoned prairie outpost to which Kevin Costner was sent in Dances With Wolves, Nebraska Wesleyan.

Doane (which is actually called the Tigers, not the Pills) is one of two Nebraska schools that should really consider changing their nicknames. The other is Creighton, which should jettison the nickname Bluejays and start calling its teams the Barrels.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 09, 2006, 09:08:09 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 09, 2006, 12:00:04 AM
Ralph,

You couldn't be satisfied with Catholic vs. Methodist? ;D

However, D3 Methodist might play D2 Presbyterian in some sports! :D :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 09, 2006, 09:22:58 AM
Give me Luther vs. Martin Luther any day of the week!  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 09, 2006, 12:02:43 PM
Score from 1/8

UW-Oshkosh 69, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 10, 2006, 10:31:12 AM
Scores from 1/9

Indiana-Purdue Fort Wayne (D1) 75, Tri-State 61
Judson, IL (NAIA 2) 96, Principia 65
Mount Saint Joseph 106, Cincinnati Christian (NCCAA) 69
Wright State (D1) 88, Kenyon 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 11, 2006, 09:32:37 AM
Scores from 1/10

Hendrix 75, Rhema Bible (USCAA) 61
Martin Luther 86, North Central, MN (NCCAA) 46
Nebraska Wesleyan 59, Midland Lutheran (NAIA 2) 56
Walla Walla (NCCAA) 95, Whitman 85
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2006, 09:49:40 AM
Scores from 1/11

Colorado-Colorado Springs (D2) 74, Colorado College 60
Lincoln 126, Newport News (USCAA) 89
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 87, Eureka 72
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 87, Keuka 83
SUNY-Farmingdale 91, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 12, 2006, 07:08:05 PM
Records through 1/11/06   D3  vs  :

     D1           2  -  64
  NCAA-D2     20  -  63
  NAIA-D1      22  -  30
  NAIA-D2      111  -  99
  NCCAA          47  -  8
   USCAA         65  -  15
    Other          32  -  0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2006, 09:37:56 AM
Scores from 1/12

Emory and Henry 126, King, TN (NAIA 2) 97
Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 70, Green Mountain 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 14, 2006, 11:22:53 AM
Score from 1/13

Rochester 86, Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2006, 02:22:53 PM
Scores from 1/14

Briar Cliff (NAIA 2) 66, Nebraska Wesleyan 64
George Fox 88, Walla Walla (NCCAA) 67
Huntingdon 70, Carver Bible (NCCAA) 55
Michigan Tech (D2) 73, Finlandia 62
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 91, Brockport State 85
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 17, 2006, 09:52:10 AM
Scores from 1/16

Michigan Tech (D2) 75, UW-Superior 46
North Central 85, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 71
Piedmont 93, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA) 77
Westminster, MO 63, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA) 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 18, 2006, 09:43:24 AM
Scores from 1/17

Alfred 93, Penn State-Dubois (other) 62
Minnesota-Morris 103, North Central, MN (NCCAA) 78
Presentation 75, Trinity Bible (NCCAA) 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2006, 09:42:44 AM
Scores from 1/18

Eastern Mennonite 86, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 74
Nebraska Wesleyan 66, Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 60 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 20, 2006, 01:30:03 PM
Scores from 1/19

Hood 80, Maryland Bible (other) 60
Lakeland 85, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 71
University of Dallas 75, Dallas Christian (NCCAA) 67
Wisconsin Lutheran 78, Northland Baptist (NCCAA) 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 22, 2006, 02:05:01 PM
Score from 1/20

Baptist Bible 116, Maryland Bible (other) 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 22, 2006, 02:08:56 PM
Scores from 1/21

Dordt (NAIA 2) 59, Nebraska Wesleyan 45
Northland Baptist (NCCAA) 67, Finlandia 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 24, 2006, 09:24:42 AM
Score from 1/23

Lake Superior State (D2) 85, Finlandia 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 24, 2006, 10:05:17 AM
10/23 or 1/23????
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 24, 2006, 06:31:35 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 24, 2006, 10:05:17 AM
10/23 or 1/23????

It's a good thing this edit feature doesn't lock you out after 15 minutes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2006, 09:48:55 AM
Score from 1/24

Hastings (NAIA 2) 70, Nebraska Wesleyan 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 28, 2006, 10:17:11 AM
Score from 1/27

Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 80, Concordia, IL 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on January 28, 2006, 07:23:44 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 28, 2006, 10:17:11 AM
Score from 1/27

Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 80, Concordia, IL 73

Aw, crap.  I had Concordia in that one.   >:(
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 28, 2006, 08:46:09 PM
Dave, who did you have in the 2nd game of that doubleheader.... maybe you got your money back...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2006, 08:53:52 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 28, 2006, 08:46:09 PM
Dave, who did you have in the 2nd game of that doubleheader.... maybe you got your money back...

Concordia NE vs Concordia WI

or

Concordia-Selma vs Concordia-Austin
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 28, 2006, 09:16:36 PM
I see CURF is back to their usual contribution - making bad teams look good! 

CUAA (that's Concordia University-Ann Arbor, the official name of Concrdia (MI)), is actually 11-11 on this year after the win, but last year's 10-19 record was their best in many years (I could not find past records on their website).  But I am almost certain that both the men's and women's teams pretty regularly had 1 or 2 win seasons.  They have been SO bad for SO long that the Ann Arbor News no longer covers them except in the agate print!  (The 'story' on the CUAA-CURF game covered less than one column inch!)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 28, 2006, 11:39:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 28, 2006, 09:16:36 PM
I see CURF is back to their usual contribution - making bad teams look good! 

CUAA (that's Concordia University-Ann Arbor, the official name of Concrdia (MI)), is actually 11-11 on this year after the win, but last year's 10-19 record was their best in many years (I could not find past records on their website).  But I am almost certain that both the men's and women's teams pretty regularly had 1 or 2 win seasons.  They have been SO bad for SO long that the Ann Arbor News no longer covers them except in the agate print!  (The 'story' on the CUAA-CURF game covered less than one column inch!)

Chuck, the Michigander version of Concordia World beat Albion back in November, so I doubt that CUAA is the toxic waste spill that they may have been in the past.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 28, 2006, 11:58:30 PM
Greg,

I missed that one (maybe the AA News didn't cover it!) - apparently they ARE on the upswing.  In the recent past, they have been pathetic.

But things DO go in cycles (except maybe the SLIAC ;)) - afterall, in (what to me, at least) is the recent past, NPU was great!  (Sorry, couldn't resist!)  NPU WILL have their day again - no guarantee of a whole string of national titles, but....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2006, 10:18:02 AM
Scores from 1/28

Huntingdon 73, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA) 68
Mt. Marty (NAIA 2) 71, Nebraska Wesleyan 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2006, 11:31:19 AM
Score from 1/29

St. Joseph's, ME 72, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2006, 10:49:05 AM
Scores from 1/30

Crown 81, North Central, MN (NCCAA) 61
Gallaudet 81, Christendom (USCAA) 56
Maryville, TN 79, Carson Newman (D2) 74
Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 81, Clarke 55
North Georgia (D2) 122, Piedmont 99
Principia 72, St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA 2) 67
Viterbo (NAIA 2) 83, Martin Luther 77
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2006, 09:31:24 AM
Scores from 1/31

Judson, IL (NAIA 2) 106, Aurora 101
Pacific 71, Northwest Christian (USCAA) 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2006, 11:19:46 AM
Score from 2/1

Doane (NAIA 2) 80, Nebraska Wesleyan 78 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2006, 09:34:24 AM
Scores from 2/2

Hood 89, Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 60
Philadelphia Biblical 86, Washington Bible (NCCAA) 42
Piedmont 104, Toccoa Falls (NCCAA) 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 03, 2006, 12:32:56 PM
Rhodes, one more.  I do not find them listed as NCAA, NAIA, NCCAA or USCAA.

Knoxville (other/non-aligned) 88, Fisk 82.

The Knoxville College web site is closed.

www.knoxvillecollege.edu
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 03, 2006, 02:30:49 PM
Massey has Knoxville College as NAIA - 2. Wolfe has them as an 'independent', like East-West or Union of Nebraska.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 04, 2006, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2006, 09:31:24 AM
Scores from 1/31

Judson, IL (NAIA 2) 106, Aurora 101
Pacific 71, Northwest Christian (USCAA) 65

One more...

Chapman 70  UC San Diego (D2) 64 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2006, 01:07:39 PM
Scores from 2/3

Briar Cliff (NAIA 2) 93, Nebraska Wesleyan 79
Chapman 84, LIFE Pacific (NCCAA) 73
Northern Colorado (D1) 80, Colorado College 35
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2006, 01:10:21 PM
Scores from 2/4

Dakota Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 73, Nebraska Wesleyan 54
UC Santa Cruz 88, Golden State Baptist (USCAA) 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2006, 01:14:14 PM
Ralph: Thanks for the additional scores.

Ralph & smedindy: I couldn't find Knoxville listed on the NAIA site. It's probably best to classify them as "other."
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 06, 2006, 05:37:08 PM
Score from 1/26

La Sierra 75, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 06, 2006, 05:41:41 PM
Records through 2/6

D3 vs.

D1...2-65
D2...22-67
NAIA 1...22-30
NAIA 2...117-112
NCCAA...61-9
USCAA...71-15
Other...35-1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 07, 2006, 09:17:34 AM
Scores from 2/6

Johnson and Wales, CO (NAIA 2) 64, Colorado College 58
New Jersey City 66, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 52
Principia 65, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA) 62
Rowan 85, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA) 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 07, 2006, 09:48:20 AM
Break up Principia!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 07, 2006, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: smedindy on February 07, 2006, 09:48:20 AM
Break up Principia!

Yeah, they are winning way too many games.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2006, 09:58:29 AM
Scores from 2/7

Chapman 80, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 35
Dominican, CA (NAIA 2) 69, UC Santa Cruz 53
Huntingdon 69, Wesley, MS (NCCAA) 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 09, 2006, 09:46:09 AM
Scores from 2/8

Longwood (D1) 87, Shenandoah 68
Martin Methodist (NAIA 1) 83, Fisk 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2006, 11:01:20 AM
Scores from 2/9

Geneva (NAIA 2) 107, Westminster, PA 102
Hood 114, Patrick Henry (other) 34
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 10, 2006, 12:21:09 PM
Oh, just the typical 80 point beatdown.  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on February 10, 2006, 12:23:54 PM
Looks like they gave him death this time.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2006, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on February 10, 2006, 12:23:54 PM
Looks like they gave him death this time.

:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 10, 2006, 12:56:28 PM

It's appropriate the death came by "hood" because didn't they hang Patrick Henry?  He was spared the firing squad if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 10, 2006, 02:28:36 PM
And this is what death looks like:

http://www.hood.edu/campus/athletics/index.cfm?pid=BB/_BB_020906-patrickhenry.htm

Patrick Henry's only played 8 games? Wow.

And one player, with the almost impossible line:

12 minutes
0 stats.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 10, 2006, 02:40:49 PM
Quote from: smedindy on February 10, 2006, 02:28:36 PM
And one player, with the almost impossible line:

12 minutes
0 stats.

You're waching too many decent basketball games if you think its so hard.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: woosterbooster on February 10, 2006, 04:17:32 PM
If Patrick Henry were to book a game against Liberty College, the next time around they might choose death instead.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 10, 2006, 04:19:43 PM

Isn't there a mortuary college somewhere called Death U?  Maybe a Death Valley College or something like that?

We could invite them to a tournament at Patrick Henry just for kicks.  We could get ESPN to at least mention it, I think.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: woosterbooster on February 10, 2006, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 10, 2006, 04:19:43 PM

Isn't there a mortuary college somewhere called Death U? Maybe a Death Valley College or something like that?

We could invite them to a tournament at Patrick Henry just for kicks. We could get ESPN to at least mention it, I think.

Yeah!!  Patrick Henry, Liberty, and Death U.  And for the fourth team, we'll bring in ESPNU.  Oh, wait, that's not a university...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 10, 2006, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on February 10, 2006, 12:23:54 PM
Looks like they gave him death this time.

That's worth a plus-1!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2006, 07:02:53 PM
From the Scoreboard last night,

Lyndon State 89, Johnson State 70

Lyndon State (NAIA-2) is exploratory for 2005-06.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 10, 2006, 07:06:44 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 10, 2006, 12:56:28 PMIt's appropriate the death came by "hood" because didn't they hang Patrick Henry?  He was spared the firing squad if I remember correctly.

You're probably thinking of Nathan Hale, who did indeed end his days at the business end of a British hemp necktie after being captured as a spy. Patrick Henry died in his bed on his Virginia plantation in 1799 at the ripe old age of 63, probably from a heart attack after being beaten by Scottie Too Hottie in Jim Loesel's ODAC pick'em pool.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 10, 2006, 10:57:54 PM
QuoteYou're waching too many decent basketball games if you think its so hard.

Actually - you really have to be a statue to not even get a turnover or a foul in 12 minutes, much less a rebound or shot attempt or assist.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2006, 02:16:51 PM
Scores from 2/10

Baptist Bible 68, Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 51
Philadelphia Biblical 76, Davis College (NCCAA) 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2006, 02:19:03 PM
Score from 2/11

Dana (NAIA 2) 93, Nebraska Wesleyan 83
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2006, 06:36:46 PM
Score from 2/9

Word of Life Bible (other) 98, Green Mountain 74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2006, 06:42:27 PM
Scores from 2/11

Finlandia 101, Grace Bible (NCCAA) 88
Vermont Technical College (USCAA) 84, Green Mountain 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 14, 2006, 10:01:12 AM
Scores from 2/13

Greensboro 82, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 66
Pitt-Johnstown (D2) 109, Mount Aloysius 78
Rhema Bible (USCAA) 71, LeTourneau 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 15, 2006, 10:24:41 AM
Score from 2/14

Central 83, Faith Baptist (NCCAA) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2006, 09:52:50 AM
Score from 2/15

Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 60, Rose-Hulman 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on February 16, 2006, 11:52:43 PM
Maryville (TN) 65  Tennessee Wesleyan (NAIA II)  61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2006, 09:53:48 AM
Scores from 2/16

Baptist Bible 77, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA) 55
Colorado College 58, Johnson & Wales, CO (NAIA 2) 55
Philadelphia Biblical 85, Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 19, 2006, 09:28:49 AM
Scores from 2/18

Huntingdon 67, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA) 56
Midland Lutheran (NAIA 2) 68, Nebraska Wesleyan 47
SUNY-Old Westbury 76, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: d3hoops8585 on February 19, 2006, 11:42:15 AM
people should really be talking about villa Julie getting a Pool B Bid...they're 17-7, 12-4 in conference and 4 of those losses have come with their point guard (chris warren) injured.   They won the pride of Maryland Tournanment, which should almost be an automatic bid in itself and they had catholic beat until the end.   If they win their conference tournament, I dont think there should be any discussion whatsoever, they should defiintely get in, but I think if they make it to the championship game, they should get in too..they've had a great season and should be rewarded for doing so
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 19, 2006, 12:01:04 PM
That's as maybe, but the NCAA criterion with their emphasis on regional rankings and QoWI, may preclude them from getting a bid.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 20, 2006, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: d3hoops8585 on February 19, 2006, 11:42:15 AM
people should really be talking about villa Julie getting a Pool B Bid...they're 17-7, 12-4 in conference and 4 of those losses have come with their point guard (chris warren) injured.   They won the pride of Maryland Tournanment, which should almost be an automatic bid in itself and they had catholic beat until the end.   If they win their conference tournament, I dont think there should be any discussion whatsoever, they should defiintely get in, but I think if they make it to the championship game, they should get in too..they've had a great season and should be rewarded for doing so

Am I missing something here? What does any of this have to do with this board?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 20, 2006, 02:25:53 PM

Nothing; someone's trying to hone in on your board Rhodes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 21, 2006, 10:09:45 AM
Score from 2/20

Lincoln 115, Penn State-Abington (other) 83
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2006, 10:25:01 AM
Score from 2/23

Philadelphia Biblical 89, Lancaster Bible (NCCAA) 83
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 07, 2006, 05:09:28 PM
Totals through regular season*

D3 vs.

D1...2-66
D2...22-68
NAIA 1...22-31
NAIA 2...119-118
NCCAA...72-9
USCAA...75-18
Other...37-2

*Subject to revision. There are missing scores, but far fewer than those of previous years.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2006, 05:21:45 PM
Rhodes, do you need us to track any of the scores for you?

If you would like the assistance, please post them and I am sure someone can find the score and the URL of the source to double-check.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 07, 2006, 05:34:32 PM
Ralph: I think there are some missing scores, but I can't tell you what they are. I do know that I listed almost all of the scores that were on the scoreboard. hopefan did an outstanding job of listing the scores that weren't on the scoreboard. All I can say is that if someone knows a score that has not been counted, please post it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on March 08, 2006, 05:43:04 PM
The NAIA D1 tournament field...

http://naia.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030806aab.html

Here are games between NAIA DI/NCAA D3 tournament teams that I am aware of.  Anyone know of others?


@Illinios Wesleyan 87
Olivet Nazarene 68
(Nov. 22)

@Illinois Wesleyan 81
St. Xavier 61
(Nov. 28)

@Azusa Pacific 89
Occidental 71
(Dec. 6)

Lawrence 64
@Vanguard 59
(Dec. 30)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on March 08, 2006, 06:12:57 PM
The NAIA D2 tourney field...

http://naia.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl-div2/spec-rel/030806aal.html

Again, a few crossover games I recall...


Warner Pacific 100
@Puget Sound 93
(Nov. 25)

Cornerstone 87
Calvin 79
(Nov. 25, neutral)

Hope 79
Cornerstone 59
(Nov. 26, neutral)


Any others?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 08, 2006, 07:00:10 PM
NAIA D-1

LSU-Shreveport (25-3)  (Gulf South AC Champion)   90 
at ETBU (14-12/14-9 reg /14-8 conf--ASC-East Div)  87
Nov 22nd.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on March 08, 2006, 07:03:16 PM
Ralph, I was just referring to NAIA/NCAA tournament team "crossover."  Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: dren on March 08, 2006, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on March 08, 2006, 06:12:57 PM
The NAIA D2 tourney field...

http://naia.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl-div2/spec-rel/030806aal.html

Again, a few crossover games I recall...


Warner Pacific 100
@Puget Sound 93
(Nov. 25)

Cornerstone 87
Calvin 79
(Nov. 25, neutral)

Hope 79
Cornerstone 59
(Nov. 26, neutral)


Any others?

at Hope 82
Aquinas 75
Dec 10, 2005

Hope 67
Aquinas 66
Nov 25, 2005, neutral

Calvin 71
Aquinas 86
Nov 26, 2005, neutral

Calvin 69
at Aquinas 52 
Dec 6, 2005
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 08, 2006, 07:34:00 PM
Aw shucks!  I was going to add that D-1 Southland Conference Regular Season Champion Northwestern St Demons only defeated ETBU 77-74 in the Lions opener in Natchitoches, LA (Na" chi tosh') on Nov 22nd.

The Southland Conference tourney finishes this week. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 09:02:27 AM

And Northwestern State has a pretty decent team too.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on March 09, 2006, 09:04:51 AM
Yep, I think NW State could be a thorn in the side of some major team in the NCAA D-1 tourney!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 09:10:29 AM

They were quite impressive in the non-conference season.  Hopefully their poor conference opponents haven't ruined their ability to play at a higher level (much like Gonzaga's do every year).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on March 09, 2006, 09:50:49 AM
Well, last year St. Mary's was good enough to get a second bid from the WCC. So I don't blame Gonzaga's issues on their conference, just the inherent flaws of the team itself.

And Sam Houston State also had a good run in the pre-season NIT, so they're not a pushover.

The teams that will have issues because of their conference are GW and Memphis, IMHO.

Anyway...it's not unlike what we have here at times in D-3 land. The SOS of Mississippi College was horrid, in comparison, because their half of the ASC isn't as strong as the other half. Could that affect them this weekend?

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 10:13:29 AM

Actually that game should be interesting.  MC likes to run 12 guys in there in near equal time.  I'm not sure Tranny has had much of a chance to play against a deep team like that.  That would be one great game to watch.  Well, I guess Hope-Wittenberg would be pretty good too.  With all the talk about the Midwest Sectional, people are overlooking two pretty good games at Wittenberg this weekend.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2006, 11:27:09 AM
Quote from: smedindy on March 09, 2006, 09:50:49 AM
Well, last year St. Mary's was good enough to get a second bid from the WCC. So I don't blame Gonzaga's issues on their conference, just the inherent flaws of the team itself.

And Sam Houston State also had a good run in the pre-season NIT, so they're not a pushover.

The teams that will have issues because of their conference are GW and Memphis, IMHO.

Anyway...it's not unlike what we have here at times in D-3 land. The SOS of Mississippi College was horrid, in comparison, because their half of the ASC isn't as strong as the other half. Could that affect them this weekend?

Smed and Hoops fan, thanks for the consideration that you are giving the ASC.

Texas Lutheran (7-17/6-16) defeated Norwich (21-8/13-5) on a neutral floor.  No great shakes. but definitely a win.
Norwich made the tourney and lost to SJF in the 2nd round.

http://www.d3hoops.com/school_info.php?school=Norwich&team=m&year=2006

The ASC is so isolated that the conference has decided to play a 22-game schedule to ensure a generous number of South Region games.  Therefore, we don't have the chance to boost the records on SLIAC's or NIIC's or AMCC's or NEAC's.  Trinity and Southwestern are very selective in their scheduling, and UDallas rarely schedules ASC teams.  There are weak teams, but the teams are not as weak as one might suggest, simply because the ASC is a closed system.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 09, 2006, 12:02:59 PM
I'm curious, Ralph -- have any ASC members attempted to emulate the SCIAC by attracting D3 snowbirds in November and December? If the weather's nice in Texas at that time of year (and I realize it's a big state, so the weather in north Texas isn't necessarily the same as the weather in south Texas) it strikes me as a cheaper alternative than southern California for D3 teams looking to make a warm-weather trip. The games wouldn't count in terms of regional play, of course, but they'd at least create some secondary-criteria possibilities and would raise the national profile of the ASC on the D3 radar.

I'm thinking of the classic-format tourney that Trinity (TX) and Southwestern have been co-hosting over the past few seasons. It seems to be working very nicely.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 12:38:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2006, 11:27:09 AM
The ASC is so isolated that the conference has decided to play a 22-game schedule to ensure a generous number of South Region games.  Therefore, we don't have the chance to boost the records on SLIAC's or NIIC's or AMCC's or NEAC's.  Trinity and Southwestern are very selective in their scheduling, and UDallas rarely schedules ASC teams.  There are weak teams, but the teams are not as weak as one might suggest, simply because the ASC is a closed system.

That's true.  It's hard to get a competitive regional record if you're .600 in conference without much chance at other in-region competition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2006, 01:13:20 PM
Greg, the migration of AC to the SCAC does help with the availability of games.  The East will have 20 games among conference teams; the West 21 in 2006-07.

The East might be able to schedule two tourneys or classics, but travel is not as convenient as flying into San Antonio or Austin.  UT-Tyler is 2 hours from DFW; everyone else except UT-Dallas is farther.

Actually what might help us more is the Holiday in-region legislation.  The ASC is much closer to the Midwest, West and even Great Lakes regions, than to the ODAC and USAC.

I actually prefer that McMurry actually travel to the tourneys.

In 2003-04, the ASC-West so much better than the ASC-East, that the net effect was to boost the QOWI by 0.57 points.  That is a great boost.  Unfortunately, there were so few Pool C bids.

Practically speaking, MissColl was better than anyone else.  UMHB might have been that good, but an All-ASC senior point guard failed to make grades in the Fall Semester.  That might have given a second team as a Pool C.  Otherwise, the ASC just tends to WIAC/CCIW itself out of contention for Pool C bids on the men's side.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2006, 01:13:20 PM
Otherwise, the ASC just tends to WIAC/CCIW itself out of contention for Pool C bids on the men's side.

And, like I said, they don't have the chance to up the QOWI numbers with non-conference opponents (ala IWU).


I think the holiday in-region thing is a great idea, which means the NCAA will never go for it.  You'll have to come up with something else Ralph.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2006, 01:38:52 PM
I get the impression that the Competition committee likes it.  There are just too many bugs in the system to bring it forward at this time.

All things considered, this tournament field is so much better than anything recently.  And yes I can quibble about the pairings, #1 Miss College not getting to host the Sectional and on the Women, McMurry having the #2 seed in the Region, but not getting the weakest team in the sub-brakcet, Trinity TX, but rather getting their Crosstown Rival Hardin-Simmons in the first round to guarantee an Abilene team in the tourney for the second night.  It's a ticket thing.

McMurry and Hardin-Simmons is kinda like Calvin/Hope or Bates/Bowdoin in the first round.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 01:59:20 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2006, 01:38:52 PM
McMurry and Hardin-Simmons is kinda like Calvin/Hope or Bates/Bowdoin in the first round.

Yeah, but only if they were both in Wyoming.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on March 09, 2006, 02:20:30 PM
I couldn't find the post but someone asked about C'stone and Aquinas.

Cornerstone was down from the past 5 years, easily the worst team they've had in years, but they still qualified for the national tournament.  I expect them to get bounced out today.

Cornerstone was severely hampered by the sudden forced departure of their all everything stud (Voorhees) who transfered from Central Michigan.  They would have had a great team this year pairing him up with their 6-9 center Yonker.

Aquinas is a building program and had one of their best years in memory, also advancing to the NAIA tournament, they were bounced out yesterday by Taylor.

These teams can compete with the better D3 teams.  They take great pleasure in knocking off their local rivals Hope and Calvin who get almost all of the small college publicity in Grand Rapids.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 02:33:15 PM

Syracuse just knocked off Connecticut in OT...amazing game all the way through.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on March 09, 2006, 02:35:37 PM
Was it more amazing than watching Louisville stink up the garden and almost come back to win last night?

Wait a minute are these NAIA I or II teams?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 02:36:56 PM

McNamarra hit a three at the buzzer again to send it to overtime, then hit like 400 free throws down the stretch.  He's going to be the next reggie miller: adequate guard until crunch time then a can't miss shooter.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on March 09, 2006, 03:49:04 PM
If your inclined you can follow the NAIA II tournament going on as we speak here

http://naia.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl-div2/spec-rel/030806aal.html

They even have a gametracker.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 03:56:10 PM

OK, maybe my comments were directed the wrong way.  NAIA -II is a joke.  They only have 159 schools, but they have a 32 team tournament?  20% of the teams make the tournament?  And a lot of them just plain stink.  Fisher College made it for cyring out loud.  They'd be a bad D3 team and they're in New England!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on March 09, 2006, 03:59:50 PM
There are some real stinkers who make the D3 tournament every year too.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2006, 04:24:39 PM
Quote from: sac on March 09, 2006, 03:59:50 PM
There are some real stinkers who make the D3 tournament every year too.

Still our stinkers could beat their stinkers any day of the week.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on March 09, 2006, 04:56:33 PM
Fisher looks to be the #31 seed (out of 32) in the tournament.  They won their league in upset fashion over the #1 seed...

http://www.fisher.edu/Web/Athletics/mens_basketball_home.html

Marginal teams making the tournament happens at all levels.  I'm not sure I'd consider NCAA D3 Wisconsin Lutheran (lost by 42 to Hope) to be a favorite over Fisher College...and no, and I haven't seen either play.

Hoops, from reading your posts on CCIW Chat I understand that you don't think much of NAIA, but there are some real powers in both I and II.  My parents go to more small college basketball games than anyone I know, and my dad has said all year long that the best team he has seen is Huntington (In)...and he's seen Illinois Wesleyan, Hope, Robert Morris, Olivet Nazarene, St. Xavier, Augustana, North Central, Elmhurst, and other ranked teams among affiliations.

The Top 4-5 NAIA I teams are better than the best NCAA D3 teams.  As has been posted before, those teams are more like good NCAA D2 teams - the teams you see in the Elite 8 on CBS every year.  Lawrence or Wittenberg or whoever our best is would be an underdog vs Mountain States or the top NAIA I.  In NAIA II, the top 5 or so are very comparable to top D3 teams. 

1. Embry Riddle
2. Huntington
3. Walsh
4. Ozarks
5. Warner Pacific (won @ Puget Sound by 7)

That's the top 5 heading in the tourney.  These teams can play with the teams that end up in Salem in next.

After the top teams, there is a pretty big fall off in the rest of the NAIA II top 25, but there are some pretty solid teams.  #19 Aquinas beat MIAA regular season champ Calvin, as did unranked Cornerstone.  Hope beat Aquinas by 1 on a neutral court and then by 7 at home...and Hope beat Cornerstone by 20.


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on March 09, 2006, 04:58:21 PM
I think our worst stinker, in theory, was York (NY) and Wisconsin Lutheran, but they earned their way in. Not unlike Monmouth yesterday. (The other Monmouth, in Jersey...)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on March 09, 2006, 05:21:15 PM
With 5 minutes gone it Huntington 12 Fisher 0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: monsoon on March 09, 2006, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on March 09, 2006, 04:56:33 PM

My parents go to more small college basketball games than anyone I know, and my dad has said all year long that the best team he has seen is Huntington (In)...and he's seen Illinois Wesleyan, Hope, Robert Morris, Olivet Nazarene, St. Xavier, Augustana, North Central, Elmhurst, and other ranked teams among affiliations.


I met your parents at the Hope @ Trinity Christian game this year - very nice folks and quite knowledgeable about the game.  The fact that your dad had nice things to say about Hope's team didn't hurt, either.  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2006, 09:03:04 AM

I thought I cleared up the whole NAIA thing, oh well.  I still do think NAIA-II is crap despite the occasional good performance.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 10, 2006, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 10, 2006, 09:03:04 AM

I thought I cleared up the whole NAIA thing, oh well.  I still do think NAIA-II is crap despite the occasional good performance.

Oddly enough, the worst team I saw all year was an NAIA-1 team: Illinois Tech. IIT was so bad that they might've given Principia a run for the money as the worst team in the state among four-year schools.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on March 10, 2006, 09:53:31 AM
Well, they were last in the Massey ratings (using MOV) for NAIA -  and with that rating that would put them around Immaculata.

On Wolfe they were ranked behind Medgar Evers.

Yick!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2006, 10:34:37 AM

THe combined Massey (without MOV) has them 3rd worst in NAIA-I and sandwiched between Fontbonne and Castleton State in the overall #1273 out of 1500.  Although admittedly, most of the bottom is comprised of non NCAA or NAIA schools.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: TigerFan_1973 on March 10, 2006, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: monsoon on March 09, 2006, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on March 09, 2006, 04:56:33 PM

My parents go to more small college basketball games than anyone I know, and my dad has said all year long that the best team he has seen is Huntington (In)...and he's seen Illinois Wesleyan, Hope, Robert Morris, Olivet Nazarene, St. Xavier, Augustana, North Central, Elmhurst, and other ranked teams among affiliations.


Hopefully, he can see Witt on the Internet tonight and we can hear his opinion of them as well.  The link to the game is at witt's web site www.wittenberg.edu.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 10:08:16 PM
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I don't know if anyone has compiled the stats from earlier years (and the stats reported were only from NAIA-2, not NAIA-1), but from the first pages of the d3 vs. everybody thread I found:

2001-02: d3 118, NAIA-2 58
2002-03: d3 92, NAIA-2 60
2003-04: d3 93, NAIA-2 62
2004-05: d3 67, NAIA-2 70 (d3 16, NAIA-1 22)
2005-06: d3 119, NAIA-2 118 (d3 22, NAIA 31)

Two things strike me:

(1) the d3 dominance over NAIA-2 slipped a bit from 2001 thru  (winter)2004, but crashed and burned after that.

(2) why a sudden increase of 100(!) games between 2004-05 and 2005-06?  [My speculation - the record-keeping may have improved dramatically.]

If anyone can fill in the d3 vs NAIA-1 records, or records for either pre-dating 2001, it would be greatly appreciated!  (Though the d3 vs. everybody board would be the more appropriate place to do it.) 
Transferred so it won't be lost... ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 11, 2006, 10:14:30 PM

Thanks Ralph; please I'd love this embarassment to continue.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 11, 2006, 10:20:03 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 11, 2006, 10:14:30 PM

Thanks Ralph; please I'd love this embarassment to continue.

I was thinking more in terms of: Ralph, was it really necessary to copy this in a way that preserves forever my -7 Karma?  Jeesh, just 3-4 weeks ago I was at +19 - I have no clue who I have p***ed off since then.  It goes down even on days when I haven't posted, much less on days when I've been nicey-nice! ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 11, 2006, 10:21:53 PM

I find my karma goes down the most when I'm not on posting.  I guess people are afraid to face me when they anonymously click a link.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 20, 2006, 05:29:14 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 11, 2006, 10:20:03 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 11, 2006, 10:14:30 PM

Thanks Ralph; please I'd love this embarassment to continue.

I was thinking more in terms of: Ralph, was it really necessary to copy this in a way that preserves forever my -7 Karma?  Jeesh, just 3-4 weeks ago I was at +19 - I have no clue who I have p***ed off since then.  It goes down even on days when I haven't posted, much less on days when I've been nicey-nice! ;D

Someone must've recently received a speeding ticket in Ypsilanti, or bad service from a waitress in a restaurant there.  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 23, 2006, 11:03:09 AM
Additional scores:

Philander Smith (USCAA) 96, Rust 77  (1/19)
Arkansas Baptist (USCAA) 106, Rust 80  (1/24)
Rust 88, Arkansas Baptist (USCAA) 60  (1/31)
LeMoyne-Owen (D2) 82, Rust 80  (2/4)
Chapman 80, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 35  (2/7)
Rust 109, Philander Smith (USCAA) 98  (2/9)
Bethany Lutheran 83, Trinity International (NAIA 2) 83-80 (OT)  (3/4)
Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 87, Bethany Lutheran 72  (3/16)
Bethany Lutheran 97, Asbury (NAIA 2) 87  (3/17)
Bethany Lutheran 92, Central Baptist, AK (NCCAA) 67  (3/18)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 23, 2006, 11:28:39 AM

Rhodes,


La Sierra is a d3 provisional.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 23, 2006, 12:35:59 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 23, 2006, 11:28:39 AM

Rhodes,


La Sierra is a d3 provisional.

You're right. I made the correction. La Sierra had been correctly classifed as D3 all season long, but I made the mistake above.

If anyone is wondering, I've classified all NAIA schools that have dual membership with the NCCAA as being NAIA.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 23, 2006, 01:14:00 PM
Updated totals:

D3 vs.

D1...2-66
D2...22-69
NAIA 1...22-31
NAIA 2...121-119
NCCAA...73-9
USCAA...78-20
Other...37-2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 23, 2006, 01:43:17 PM
Mr. Ypsi: Per an earlier post--here are the totals for D3 vs. NAIA 1 from 2002 through 2006. I'm pretty sure that this year's totals are the most inclusive.

D3 vs. NAIA 1 won-lost records

2002  21-14
2003  18-14
2004  14-18
2005  16-22
2006  22-31
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 24, 2006, 11:56:02 AM
I made a mistake on yesterday's D3 vs. NAIA 1 records. I used the 2006 totals for 2005. The edited post is correct.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 10, 2006, 11:56:47 AM

WashU takes on SIU tonight.  This should be a fantastic match-up for the pre-season.  If only they'd schedule them when it counts.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 11, 2006, 03:27:05 PM

OK, sorry; nevermind.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 18, 2006, 10:04:57 AM
Additions and corrections are welcome.

Aurora 71, Indiana-South Bend (NAIA 1) 63 (OT)
Centre 84, Virginia-Wise (NAIA 2) 60
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 63, West Coast Baptist (other) 40
Elizabethtown 84, Penn State-Harrisburg (other) 23
Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 74, Pacific 58
George Fox 74, Corban (NAIA 2) 61
Hendrix 84, Rhema Bible (USCAA) 77 (OT)
Holy Names (NAIA 2) 88, Linfield 86 (OT)
LeTourneau 84, Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 81
Millsaps 93, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 62
Misericordia 69, Penn State-Hazleton (other) 59
Mount St. Mary 102, Albany Pharmacy (other) 58
Oglethorpe 98, Carver Bible (NCCAA 2) 72
Philadelphia Bible 71, Moody Bible (NCCAA 2) 64
Rochester, MI (USCAA) 62, Albion 49
Southwest Minnesota State (D2) 67, St. Olaf 55
Susquehanna 105, Penn College (other) 60
Westfield State 98, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 50
UW-Platteville 75, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 18, 2006, 06:03:16 PM
Additional scores from 11/17

Albertson (NAIA 2) 116, Williamette 77
Bluffton 81, Cardinal Stritch (NAIA 2) 65
Bridgewater, VA 78, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 62
Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 60, Olivet 45
CSU-Pueblo (D2) 84, Wartburg 77 (OT)
Jamestown (NAIA 2) 89, Minnesota-Morris 79
Juniata 88, Franciscan (other) 54
Lubbock Christian (NAIA 1) 97, Concordia-Austin 84
North Central 97, East-West (other) 58
Rutgers-Newark 79, Penn State-Abington (other) 73
Tri-State 73, Marygrove (USCAA) 60
Utica 104, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 37
UW-River Falls 99, William Penn (NAIA 2) 91
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 18, 2006, 06:52:22 PM
Rhodes Scholar:  Hot off the presses - score from 11-18-06

Crichton College (NAIA) 102 FISK 87

On another note, I see that the GSAC Board has been reduced to Matt Grubb's (aka Brent Watts) pablum without me to post on it.  Figures...  Bye, bye...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 19, 2006, 09:23:06 AM
Scores from 11/18

Central Missouri St. (D2) 81, Monmouth 53
Clark 96, Fisher (NAIA 2) 61
Corban (NAIA 2) 85, Whitman 71
DeSales 119, Penn State-Harrisburg (other) 49
George Fox 85, Holy Names (NAIA 2) 65
Goucher 77, Maryland Bible (other) 59
Grace Bible (NCCAA 1) 92, Concordia, WI 88
Guilford 101, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 77
Hannibal-LaGrange (NAIA 1) 67, Philadelphia Bible 57
Macalester 87, Embry-Riddle, FL (NAIA 2) 85
Marywood 93, Penn State-Hazleton (other) 63
Mayville State (NAIA 2) 83, Northwestern, MN 65
McNeese State (D1) 89, Louisiana College 60
Mercer (D1) 89, Emory 71
New Jersey 79, Penn College (other) 56
Plattsburgh State 73, Penn State-Abington (other) 68
Point Park (NAIA 2) 108, Buffalo State 82
Rhodes 74, Rhema Bible (USCAA) 62
Ripon 76, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 65
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 91, Lynchburg 86
Wabash 56, IU-South Bend (NAIA 1) 44
West Coast Baptist (other) 81, Caltech 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 20, 2006, 09:23:16 AM
Scores from 11/19

California Maritime (NAIA 2) 54, Maine Maritime 35
Olivet 75, Andrews (USCAA) 62
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 79, Roanoke 75
Yeshiva 71, Berkeley (other) 45
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 20, 2006, 09:49:32 AM
Additional scores from 11/17

Benedictine 84, Grace Bible (NCCAA 1) 63
Bethel 113, Dakota State (NAIA 2) 83
Loyola, IL (D1) 96, John Carroll 74
Northland 81, Northland Baptist (NCCAA 2) 76
Presentation 74, Trinity Bible (NCCAA 2) 57
St. Louis Christian (NCCAA 2) 84, Lincoln Christian 61
Wiley (NAIA 1) 73, East Texas Baptist 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 20, 2006, 10:16:33 AM
Additional scores from 11/18

California Maritime (NAIA 2) 75, SUNY-Maritime 56
Centre 82, Berea (NAIA 2) 66
CSU-Pueblo (D2) 86, Hamline 71
Dallas Baptist (D2) 83, Howard Payne 64
Keuka 90, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 71
Franciscan (other) 76, Penn State-Altoona 65
Philadelphia University (D2) 75, Chestnut Hill 63
St. Mary's, TX (D2) 79, Sul Ross State 52
SUNY-Farmingdale 90, Berkeley (other) 29
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: pabegg on November 21, 2006, 04:03:49 PM
Looking at this list, I'm wondering what the rule is for the new D3 provisionals.

You've included Lincoln Christian as D3, but show St. Vincent and Lancaster Bible under their old affiliations. No mention either way of Lyndon St. or SUNY Morrisville.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2006, 04:04:06 AM
PAbegg -- any chance you have that 2001-02 or 2000-01 scores database we've been talking about for the past 12 months?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 22, 2006, 07:25:33 PM
pabegg: I classified St. Vincent and Lancaster Bible as non-D3 because I was following the current scoreboard--i.e., these schools were listed in black print. I didn't now they were provisional D3 schools. Lincoln Christian was listed as D3 because they were printed in blue with a link. As a rule, I've been listing D3 provisionals as D3, so I'll probably change all the schools you mentioned to D3.

To all: If you see a school that is misclassified or is questionable, please speak up.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 22, 2006, 07:48:56 PM
Scores from 11/21

Abilene Christian (D2) 87, Howard Payne 81
Belhaven (NAIA 1) 69, Millsaps 60
Centenary 84, Berkeley (other) 61
Coe 82, Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 62
Davidson (D1) 99, Colby 69
Emory & Henry 120, Virginia-Wise (NAIA 2) 101
LSU-Shreveport (NAIA 1) 89, East Texas Baptist 85
Lake Superior State (D2) 82, Finlandia 47
Maryland Bible (other) 78, Gallaudet 74 (OT)
McKendree (NAIA 1) 82, Greenville 59
Messiah 74, Mansfield State (D2) 66
Millikin 88, IU-Northwest (NAIA 2) 73
Minnesota Duluth (D2) 78, St. Scholastica 68
Moorhead State (D2) 85, Concordia-Moorhead 84 (OT)
Muskingum 69, Franciscan (other) 43
Nebraska Wesleyan 70, Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 65
NJCU 98, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 65
Redlands 152, West Coast Baptist (other) 98
Rutgers-Camden 93, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 77
Saginaw Valley (D2) 81, Olivet 67
Sam Houston State (D1) 95, Louisiana College 31
Southern Virginia (USCAA) 91, Waynesburg 80
St. Edward's (D2) 105, Concordia-Austin 89
St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA 2) 68, Principia 60
Stephen F. Austin (D1) 99, Schreiner 54
SUNY-Purchase 89, Pratt (other) 58
Texas-Dallas 81, Southwestern Assemblies of God (NAIA 1) 70
UW-LaCrosse 71, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 45
UW-Stout 67, Bemidji State (D2) 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 22, 2006, 08:18:25 PM
Additional score from 11/20:
Eastern Kentucky (D1) 63, Kenyon 52
...Kenyon led by as much as 21, and by 13 at the half.  Oh well.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2006, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on November 22, 2006, 07:25:33 PM
pabegg: I classified St. Vincent and Lancaster Bible as non-D3 because I was following the current scoreboard--i.e., these schools were listed in black print. I didn't now they were provisional D3 schools. Lincoln Christian was listed as D3 because they were printed in blue with a link. As a rule, I've been listing D3 provisionals as D3, so I'll probably change all the schools you mentioned to D3.

To all: If you see a school that is misclassified or is questionable, please speak up.

Lancaster Bible is not provisional yet, to my understanding. St. Vincent was listed by the NCAA as having asked for a deferment, but it seems to have been denied or a false report from the NCAA.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 24, 2006, 11:46:58 PM
After looking at the websites of the three schools in question, it looks like Lincoln Christian and St. Vincent are D3 provisionals, while Lancaster Bible is not.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Darryl Nester on November 25, 2006, 08:49:27 AM
Last night:
Bluffton University 79, Goshen College (NAIA 2) 73.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 25, 2006, 12:25:50 PM
Scores from 11/24

Calvin 81, Aquinas (NAIA 2) 65
Cal State-Stanislaus (D2) 112, UC Santa Cruz 56
Christopher Newport 91, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 87
Colorado-Colorado Springs (D2) 105, Carroll 86
DePauw 88, Judson (NAIA 2) 84
Hope 80, Cornerstone (NAIA 2) 76
Maryland Bible (other) 78, Concordia-Moorhead 72 (OT)
Millsaps 70, Wesley, MS (NCCAA) 57
Occidental 66, Notre Dame de Namur (D2) 59
Puget Sound 98, Northwest Christian (NAIA 2) 91
Wartburg 97, Peru State (NAIA 2) 53
Winona State (D2) 98, St. Mary's, MN 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wooscotsfan on November 25, 2006, 08:52:45 PM
Final:  #2 Wooster 85  Walsh University (NAIA 2) 68

Wooster next plays NAIA power Georgetown (KY) on 11/28
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 26, 2006, 10:04:50 AM
Scores from 11/25

Anderson 69, Taylor (NAIA 2) 59
Brooklyn 75, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 73 (OT)
Buena Vista 99, Northwestern (NAIA 2) 86
Carnegie Mellon 121, Penn State-Fayette (USCAA) 51
Christopher Newport 87, Maryland Bible (other) 67
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 51, Hope International (NAIA 1) 48
Hawaii Pacific (D2) 79, Carleton 76 (OT)
IWU 92, Judson, IL (NAIA 2) 50
La Verne 76, Life Pacific (other) 46
Lincoln 103, Cheyney (D2) 95
Linfield 83, Cascade (NAIA 2) 73
Lipscomb (D1) 80, Fisk 68
LIU (D1) 105, SUNY-Old Westbury 50
Longwood (D1) 88, Shenandoah 60
Maryville, MO 65, Reinhardt (NAIA 1) 54
Monmouth 61, Hannibal-LaGrange (NAIA 1) 58
Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 55, Luther 53
Northern Kentucky (D2) 86, Thomas More 61
Northwest Nazarene (D2) 61, Pacific 53
Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 75, Mt. St. Joseph 73 (OT)
Ohio Northern 113, College of the Bahamas (other) 45
Rhema Bible (USCAA) 80, Austin 78
Rhodes 72, Wesley, MS (NCCAA 2) 65
Rochester, MI (USCAA) 66, Adrian 55
Southern Virginia (USCAA) 87, Concordia-Moorhead 80
Warner Pacific (NAIA 2) 109, Puget Sound 102
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 26, 2006, 11:08:32 AM
For those who are interested in comparing the tops of the respective divisions, note that the Wooster-Walsh game was between the #2 ranked team in NCAA D3 and the #7 ranked team in NAIA D2 (http://naia.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl-div2/spec-rel/110106aaa.html), on the NAIA team's home court.  Chalk one up for D3.  :)

The upcoming game between Wooster and Georgetown involves the #2 NCAA D3 team and the #8 NAIA D1 team (http://naia.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/110106aab.html), but this time the game will be at Wooster.

If anyone knows of other interdivisional matchups between ranked teams, please make note of them here.  For example, it seems that Robert Morris (IL), the #1 NAIA D1 team, plays D3 teams from time to time (although there are two Robert Morrises in Illinois, and I've never been able to keep them straight), and I'd be interested to know if they can beat a top D3 team.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on November 26, 2006, 12:01:15 PM
Robert Morris (Chicago) would probably be a 10 point+ favorite vs the best Division III team on a neutral court.  Their third leading scorer, John Winchester, started for Tennessee.  Reggie George, RMC's leading scorer, is a transfer from Iowa State.  This is a program where McDonald's All-American Jerome Harper was their fourth best player last year.

This isn't to suggest that the top D3 teams could not beat Robert Morris (Chicago), but it would be an upset.  As I mentioned on the NCAC board, Olivet Nazarene actually won the league RMC is in last year, and Illinois Wesleyan beat ONU 87-68.


http://www.robertmorris.edu/athletics/mensbasketball/chicago/
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on November 26, 2006, 12:11:10 PM
NAIA II is a little harder to gauge.  It seems like the top NCAA Division III teams are usually better than the top NAIA II teams and that, in general, we do well across the board against the NAIA II ranked programs.  #5 Embry Riddle lost to D3 Macalaster on November 18.  Macalaster was 7-18 overall last year and 6-14 in the MIAC.

http://daytona.embryriddlesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=47809&SPID=4506&DB_OEM_ID=11500&ATCLID=693532

NAIA II has some great teams though -- that Cornerstone team (unranked), for example, that Hope beat Friday is outstanding per my dad who saw Cornerstone dismantle NAIA I St. Xavier last week at SXU.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 26, 2006, 02:03:00 PM
Clearly I don't have my basketball eyes with me yet, Cornerstone underwhlemed me Friday night against Hope.  Infact I left Calvin thinking that crosstown NAIA II Aquinas was a better team than Cornerstone.

Well Cornerstone trounced AQ by 20 on Saturday and looked good doing it, granted AQ was without a couple players but the margin was not fluky at all.

I've had trouble gauging just how good Cornerstone has been recently because I always compare their current team to their great teams of 99-01 when they were a regualar at the NAIA II finals.  This team is not especially deep despite having like 19 guys in uniform.

But if Q's dad says they're good, I'll accept that. ;)

I'll add that everything Q says about compareing NAIA to D3 is pretty much spot on.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: cawcdad on November 26, 2006, 07:30:58 PM
Two more scores from 11-25:
Cal State Stanislaus (D2) 75 - Occidental 71
Notre Dame de Namur (D2) 69 - UC Santa Cruz 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 27, 2006, 03:55:24 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 26, 2006, 11:08:32 AMFor example, it seems that Robert Morris (IL), the #1 NAIA D1 team, plays D3 teams from time to time (although there are two Robert Morrises in Illinois, and I've never been able to keep them straight)

The problem is exacerbated by the fact that the two Robert Morris College teams share a common nickname, the same team colors, and -- worse -- the same website. The two teams even operate off of a common overall Robert Morris College basketball page. RMC is apparently quite zealous about maintaining a unified brand name as an institution among its various branch campuses. I always make it a point to refer to either one in hyphenated form (RMC-Chicago and RMC-Springfield) in order to avoid confusion, but most people don't follow my lead (or are simply unaware that there are two distinct basketball teams from Illinois called Robert Morris College). Perhaps I'll have to start getting as anal-retentive about insisting that people geographically identify the two RMCs as I am about the whole "preseason" thing.  :D

(To add to the confusion, a third RMC campus -- RMC-Lake County, located in north suburban Waukegan -- is also beginning to field intercollegiate sports teams. RMCLC even beat Carthage in men's soccer this season. It's probably only a matter of time before RMCLC also begins playing men's basketball ... no doubt as yet another maroon-and-gold Eagles incarnation.)

However, RMC-Chicago -- the NAIA-1 powerhouse -- never plays D3 teams. I can't remember the last time that the big-city Eagles took the court against a team from our division. It's been my experience that most Chicagoland D3 types respect RMC-Chicago's talent and accomplishments but not the way that the program behind it operates.

RMC-Springfield, which is affiliated with the USCAA rather than the NAIA and which fields a team vastly inferior to the one on the main campus in the Windy City, tends to play anywhere from a half-dozen to a dozen games against D3 comp every season. This year they're playing eleven D3 teams; they've lost to Guilford and beaten Roanoke on the East Coast, they face North Park on Monday and Blackburn on Wednesday, and after that the Capital City version of the Eagles will take on Millikin, North Central, UW-Platteville, Rose-Hulman, Caltech, Occidental, and Mount St. Joseph. Oddly enough, they're also playing three D2 teams (SIU-Edwardsville, Truman State, and Oakland City), a pair of jucos, a seminary team, and the RMC-Chicago JV.

RMC-Springfield is usually competitive against average D3 teams. Last season, for example, RMCS beat both Millikin and Rose-Hulman.

Lastly, according to the city's Wikipedia entry, Springfield, IL is the birthplace of the corn dog and the point of origin of the ill-fated Donner Party. I just felt the need to point that out.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on November 27, 2006, 08:13:54 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 27, 2006, 03:55:24 AM
However, RMC-Chicago -- the NAIA-1 powerhouse -- never plays D3 teams. I can't remember the last time that the big-city Eagles took the court against a team from our division. It's been my experience that most Chicagoland D3 types respect RMC-Chicago's talent and accomplishments but not the way that the program behind it operates.

Greg, last year RMC-Chicago played Wash U, UW-Platteville, Hanover, Ohio Wesleyan, and Clarke.

http://www.robertmorris.edu/athletics/mensbasketball/chicago/archive/0506/
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 27, 2006, 01:21:54 PM
Per two e-mails from the Lancaster Bible College Athletic Department: It's their first year as an NCAA D3 provisional.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 27, 2006, 01:25:51 PM
Additional scores from 11/18

Abilene Christian (D2) 116, Concordia-Austin 114
Eastern Mennonite 77, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 73
Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 83, Eastern Texas Baptist 78
LaGrange 101, Carver Bible (NCCAA 2) 79
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 27, 2006, 01:32:34 PM
Scores from 11/20

Alma 62, Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 60 (OT)
Belmont (D1) 83, Fisk 54
Lewis and Clark 98, Hawaii-Hilo (D2) 93 (OT)
Lincoln Christian 89, Great Lakes Christian (NCCAA 2) 55
Maranatha Baptist 76, Emmaus (NCCAA 2) 53
Simpson 87, Grand View (NAIA 2) 80
Texas-Tyler 83, Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 76 (OT)
Wesley (NCCAA 2) 84, Mississippi College 82 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 27, 2006, 03:17:51 PM
Scores from 11/26

Centre 83, Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 69
Hannibal-LaGrange (NAIA 1) 64, Knox 47
Hendrix 88, Rhema Bible (USCAA) 71
Lake Forest 76, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 69
Monmouth 86, William Penn (NAIA 2) 73
Ohio Northern 74, Johnson & Wales, FL (USCAA) 60
Point Park (NAIA 2) 101, Carnegie Mellon 95
Polytechnic 70, Pratt (other) 49
Reinhardt (NAIA 1) 74, Webster 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 27, 2006, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on November 27, 2006, 01:21:54 PM
Per two e-mails from the Lancaster Bible College Athletic Department: It's their first year as an NCAA D3 provisional.

I've forgotten the 'ground rules' for this site - does that make Lancaster Bible d3 or just not included at all (or other)?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 27, 2006, 06:12:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 27, 2006, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on November 27, 2006, 01:21:54 PM
Per two e-mails from the Lancaster Bible College Athletic Department: It's their first year as an NCAA D3 provisional.

I've forgotten the 'ground rules' for this site - does that make Lancaster Bible d3 or just not included at all (or other)?

I'm counting all D3 provisionals as D3.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 28, 2006, 03:19:47 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on November 27, 2006, 08:13:54 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 27, 2006, 03:55:24 AM
However, RMC-Chicago -- the NAIA-1 powerhouse -- never plays D3 teams. I can't remember the last time that the big-city Eagles took the court against a team from our division. It's been my experience that most Chicagoland D3 types respect RMC-Chicago's talent and accomplishments but not the way that the program behind it operates.

Greg, last year RMC-Chicago played Wash U, UW-Platteville, Hanover, Ohio Wesleyan, and Clarke.

http://www.robertmorris.edu/athletics/mensbasketball/chicago/archive/0506/

Yeah, I forgot that RMC-Chicago was in the UWP and Hanover tournaments. However, I didn't realize that they had also played Clarke.

Last season was an exception, though. RMC-Chicago usually doesn't play D3s, while RMC-Springfield actively seeks out D3 schools for games.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 28, 2006, 09:44:49 AM
Scores from 11/27

Ferris State (D2) 81, Alma 53
Findlay (D2) 99, Lake Erie 67
Illinois College 107, Concordia, MO (other) 57
Indiana, PA (D2) 85, Pitt-Greensburg 52
Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 78, East Texas Baptist 50
Minnesota-Morris 83, Minnesota-Crookston (D2) 77
Montclair State 91, Berkeley (other) 43
Mount Union 86, Franciscan (other) 43
North Park 65, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 64
San Diego Christian (NAIA 1) 84, UC Santa Cruz 52
West Chester (D2) 92, Penn State-Berks 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wooscotsfan on November 28, 2006, 09:23:36 PM
Final:  #2 Wooster 80  Georgetown (KY) (NAIA-1) 73

Very nice win for the Scots over #8 nationally ranked Georgetown.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 29, 2006, 12:27:42 PM
Scores from 11/28

Brooklyn 77, Pratt (other) 42
Greenville 96, Logan Chiropractic (other) 57
Marywood 98, Davis (other) 56
Mayville State (NAIA 2) 119, Minnesota-Morris 80
North Carolina Wesleyan 114, Roanoke Bible (other)
Southern Polytechnic State (NAIA 1) 72, Piedmont 68
St. Xavier (NAIA 1) 75, IWU 73
SUNYIT 90, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 29, 2006, 12:35:20 PM
D3 vs.

D1....0-11
D2....6-26
NAIA 1....10-13
NAIA 2....31-17
NCCAA 1.....2-1
NCCAA 2....12-2
USCAA....17-7
Other....27-3

(Totals through 11/28)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 29, 2006, 12:48:35 PM

Rhodes, is that including exhibitions or have there really been 11 games against d1 opponents already this year?  Can we get a rundown of those?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 29, 2006, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 29, 2006, 12:48:35 PM

Rhodes, is that including exhibitions or have there really been 11 games against d1 opponents already this year?  Can we get a rundown of those?

Here are a few:

Lipscomb (D1) 80, Fisk 68
LIU (D1) 105, SUNY-Old Westbury 50
Longwood (D1) 88, Shenandoah 60
Belmont (D1) 83, Fisk 54
McNeese State (D1) 89, Louisiana College 60
Mercer (D1) 89, Emory 71
Loyola, IL (D1) 96, John Carroll 74
Davidson (D1) 99, Colby 69
Stephen F. Austin (D1) 99, Schreiner 54
Eastern Kentucky (D1) 63, Kenyon 52

I'm missing one (this is only 10 games) and I didn't copy over the date, but they're in the last 4 pages of this thread if you want to take a look at it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 29, 2006, 01:26:14 PM
The missing game is:
Sam Houston State (D1) 95, Louisiana College 31

No exhibitions are included.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 29, 2006, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on November 29, 2006, 01:26:14 PM
The missing game is:
Sam Houston State (D1) 95, Louisiana College 31

No exhibitions are included.


That was such a barnburner, I dunno how I could have missed it!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 29, 2006, 01:39:21 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on November 29, 2006, 12:27:42 PM
Scores from 11/28

Brooklyn 77, Pratt (other) 42


Isnt Pratt NCAA?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 29, 2006, 03:09:41 PM
I don't think so. They're in the HVWAC, and some schools in that are in D-3 and play in another conference as well.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 30, 2006, 10:55:14 AM
Scores from 11/29

Bethany 109, Ohio-Eastern (other) 80
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo (D1) 81, Occidental 62
Gardner Webb (D1) 70, Ferrum 53
Grove City 74, Geneva (NAIA 2) 64
Kings Point 86, St. Joseph's-Brooklyn (USCAA) 72
Lehigh (D1) 96, Swarthmore 33
Mansfield State (D2) 79, Keystone 55
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 73, Blackburn 70
St. Ambrose (NAIA 2) 77, Augustana 54
Texas A&M International (D2) 67, Texas Lutheran 49
Vermont Tech (NAIA 2) 80,  Johnson State 77
Waldorf (NAIA 2) 82, Martin Luther 76
Whitworth 95, Walla Walla (NCCAA 1) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 30, 2006, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on November 30, 2006, 10:55:14 AM
Scores from 11/29

Bethany 109, Ohio-Eastern (other) 80
I've lived in Eastern Ohio most of my life, and I never knew there was an Ohio (U.)-Eastern until today.  Their few sports teams (volleyball, golf, and m/w hoops) play in a conference of branch campuses of Ohio state universities.  The Panther basketball teams play their home games in the Robert W. Ney Health and Physical Education Center--I'm not making this up.  I'm told that naming rights are available; to be considered, send $50,000 in unmarked, non-sequential $100 bills to me, and I'll see what I can do.  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: kiltedbryan on November 30, 2006, 06:06:05 PM
QuoteThe Panther basketball teams play their home games in the Robert W. Ney Health and Physical Education Center--I'm not making this up.  I'm told that naming rights are available; to be considered, send $50,000 in unmarked, non-sequential $100 bills to me, and I'll see what I can do.  :D

At least it's not the Robert W. Ney Center for Ethics in Government...     :P
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wooscotsfan on November 30, 2006, 10:27:52 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 30, 2006, 03:59:26 PM
...home games in the Robert W. Ney Health and Physical Education Center--I'm not making this up.  I'm told that naming rights are available; to be considered, send $50,000 in unmarked, non-sequential $100 bills to me, and I'll see what I can do.  :D

David -- perhaps people should send jars of rare coins instead!  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 01, 2006, 05:52:51 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 30, 2006, 03:59:26 PMThe Panther basketball teams play their home games in the Robert W. Ney Health and Physical Education Center--I'm not making this up.  I'm told that naming rights are available; to be considered, send $50,000 in unmarked, non-sequential $100 bills to me, and I'll see what I can do.  :D

Perhaps they can just paint a line through the "Robert W." on the sign and then paint "Marshal" over it.

"Come and see how a Marshal of France can die!"
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 01, 2006, 07:41:59 PM
Scores from 11/30

Bethany 98, Franciscan, OH (other) 62
Crown 64, Trinity Bible (NCCAA 2) 50
Emory and Henry 105, Virginia-Wise (NAIA 2) 84
LaGrange 83, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 64
West Coast Baptist (other) 81, La Verne 79
Whittier 100, Life Pacific (other) 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2006, 10:41:51 AM
Scores from 12/1

Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 62, Dominican, CA (NAIA 2) 44
Colorado College 69, Life Pacific (NCCAA 2) 59
Grace Bible (NCCAA 1) 85, Maranatha Baptist 65
Hunter 70, St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 66
Medgar Evers 96, Pratt (other) 33
Salem International (D2) 90, Lincoln 79
Viterbo (NAIA 2) 62, Presentation 50
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2006, 11:13:26 AM
Scores from 12/2

Brevard (NAIA 2) 79, Baruch 73
Bridgewater, VA 93, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 52
Colby 89, Fisher (NAIA 2) 73
Elmhurst 87, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 77
Embry Riddle (NAIA 2) 77, Methodist 68
Geneva (NAIA 2) 83, Westminster, PA 80
Keystone 66, Williamson Trade (USCAA) 52
Lincoln 201, Ohio State-Marion (USCAA) 78
Maranatha Baptist 75, Moody Bible (NCCAA 2) 69
Morningside (NAIA 2) 78, Nebraska Wesleyan 62
Northwest Missouri State (D2) 111, Principia 36
Rutgers-Camden 89, Albany Pharmacy (other) 68
Tri-State 77, Davenport (NAIA 2) 68
Valley City State (NAIA 2) 73, Minnesota-Morris 65
Whittier 88, Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: cawcdad on December 04, 2006, 09:39:15 AM
Rhodes Scholar, although Menlo is NCAA D-III in football, they are a memebr of the NAIA2 Cal Pac conference in basketball, so here are some scores
11-17 Pacific Lutheran 80 - Menlo (NAIA2) 74
11-18 Puget Sound 130 - Menlo (NAIA2) 102
11-24 Menlo (NAIA2) 79 - Colorado College 71
12-2  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 51 - Menlo (NAIA2) 50
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 04, 2006, 01:16:28 PM
Quote from: cawcdad on December 04, 2006, 09:39:15 AM
Rhodes Scholar, although Menlo is NCAA D-III in football, they are a memebr of the NAIA2 Cal Pac conference in basketball, so here are some scores
11-17 Pacific Lutheran 80 - Menlo (NAIA2) 74
11-18 Puget Sound 130 - Menlo (NAIA2) 102
11-24 Menlo (NAIA2) 79 - Colorado College 71
12-2  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 51 - Menlo (NAIA2) 50

cawcdad: Thanks for the scores.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 04, 2006, 01:52:21 PM
Scores from 12/3

Eastern Mennonite 95, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 83
St. Joseph's, ME 71, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 42
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 04, 2006, 03:06:38 PM
D3 vs.

D1....0-14
D2....6-30
NAIA 1....11-13
NAIA 2....41-25
NCCAA 1....3-3
NCCAA 2....19-2
USCAA....21-10
Other....31-3

(Totals through 12/3)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 05, 2006, 10:29:57 AM
Scores from 12/4

Central 106, Faith Baptist (NCCAA 2) 44
Fontbonne 89, Concordia, MO (other) 66
Jamestown (NAIA 2) 87, Minnesota-Morris 65
Murray State (D1) 78, Anderson 33
Robert Morris-Chicago (NAIA 1) 113, Finlandia 69
Waynesburg 93, Franciscan-Steubenville (other) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 06, 2006, 04:46:42 PM
Scores from 12/5

Central Missouri State (D2) 77, Westminster, MO 40
Coe 79, Grand View (NAIA 2) 66
Eastern Oregon (NAIA 2) 86, Whitman 77 (OT)
IWU 64, Olivet Nazarene (NAIA 1) 63
Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 74, Louisiana College 62
Lewis and Clark 80, Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 64
Loras 73, Ashford (NAIA 2) 67
Minnesota-Duluth (D2) 88, Northland 46
Minnesota-Mankato (D2) 93, Bethany Lutheran 77
Northwest (NAIA 2) 72, George Fox 68
Regis, CO (D2) 83, Colorado College 66
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 94, Millikin 91
Simpson 73, Iowa Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 60
Warner Pacific (NAIA 1) 89, Linfield 85
Wittenberg 66, Cedarville (NAIA 2) 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 07, 2006, 10:17:00 AM
Scores from 12/6

Buena Vista 66, Dordt (NAIA 2) 61 (OT)
Carson-Newman (D2) 74, Maryville, TN 65
Colgate (D1) 82, Elmira 34
Dana (NAIA 2) 61, Nebraska Wesleyan 54
Fisher (NAIA 2) 76, Green Mountain 61
LaGrange 75, Berry (NAIA 1) 73
Millersville (D2) 96, Elizabethtown 59
Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 76, Dubuque 70
Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) 101, La Verne 54
Puget Sound 114, Puget Sound Christian (NCCAA 2) 56
Siena Heights (NAIA 2) 57, Adrian 54
Southern Virginia (USCAA) 91, Ferrum 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 08, 2006, 01:46:49 PM
Scores from 12/7

Ashford (NAIA 2) 86, Central 74
Lafayette (D1) 72, Lycoming 54
Portland State (D1) 107, Pacific Lutheran 57
University of Dallas 77, Dallas Christian (NCCAA 2) 67
Viterbo (NAIA 2) 77, Martin Luther 61
Whittier 84, West Coast Baptist (other) 77
Wisconsin Lutheran 102, Northland Baptist (NCCAA 2) 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 08, 2006, 03:59:04 PM
D3 vs.

D1....0-18
D2....6-36
NAIA 1....13-17
NAIA 2....47-34
NCCAA 1....3-3
NCCAA 2....23-2
USCAA....22-12
Other....33-3

(Totals through 12/7)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2006, 09:35:01 AM
Scores from 12/8

Harris-Stowe (NAIA 1) 73, North Central 64
Hendrix 80, Central Baptist (NCCAA 1) 67
Hope 88, Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 63
Houghton (NAIA 2) 70, Fredonia State 63
Linfield 87, Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 83
Messiah 104, Penn College (other) 35
Minnesota Mankato (D2) 76, Hamline 47
Northwest (NAIA 2) 85, Pacific Lutheran 56
Oregon Tech (NAIA 2) 84, George Fox 73
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 72, Millsaps 63
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 90, Greenville 80
Rowan 86, Newport News (USCAA) 76
San Francisco State (D2) 67, Whitman 63
Shenandoah 64, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 56
Wabash 83, Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 51
Westmont (NAIA 1) 82, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 74 (OT)
Willamette 96, Concordia, OR (NAIA 2) 93
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 11, 2006, 01:00:39 PM
Scores from 12/9

Air Force (D1) 82, Colorado College 31
Aquinas (NAIA 2) 86, Alma 52
Belhaven (NAIA 1) 82, East Texas Baptist 78
Biola (NAIA 1) 95, Pomona-Pitzer 89
Buena Vista 103, St. Ambrose (NAIA 2) 98 (OT)
Cal Lutheran 96, West Coast Baptist (other) 45
Cornell 77, Faith Baptist (NCCAA 2) 46
Crichton (NAIA 1) 110, Fisk 55
George Fox 80, Corban (NAIA 2) 63
Green Mountain 59, Paul Smith's (USCAA) 58 (OT)
Harris-Stowe (NAIA 1) 80, Greenville 78
Hope 85, Goshen (NAIA 2) 72
Hope International (NAIA 1) 127, Redlands 123
Mayville State (NAIA 2) 62, Concordia-Moorhead 58
Milwaukee Engineering 69, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 61
Minnesota Mankato (D2) 79, St. Mary's 57
Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 70, Loras 61
Neumann 113, Penn Tech (other) 61
New Orleans (D1) 76, Texas-Tyler 52
North Central 85, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 75
Olivet Nazarene (NAIA 1) 75, Wabash 60
Pacific 79, Cascade (NAIA 2) 67
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 81, Huntingdon 64
Radford (D1) 94, Shenandoah 63
Rochester, MI (USCAA) 85, Adrian 74
Rochester Tech 57, Houghton (NAIA 2) 49
Rowan 95, Penn State Delaware County (other) 66
Sioux Falls (NAIA 2) 81, Nebraska Wesleyan 66
St. Cloud State (D2) 90, St. John's 78
St. Edward's (D2) 87, Schreiner 46
Texas A&M International (D2) 63, Southwestern 48
Valdosta State (D2) 104, LaGrange 77
Waldorf (NAIA 2) 69, Luther 59
Warner Pacific (NAIA 2) 92, Whitman 85
Wayland Baptist (NAIA 1) 87, Howard Payne 80
Willamette 66, Southern Oregon (NAIA 2) 51
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 11, 2006, 01:10:33 PM
Scores from 12/10

Case Western Reserve 71, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 69
Maine-Presque Isle 83, Unity (USCAA) 79
Northern Michigan (D2) 73, St. Norbert 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 11, 2006, 04:15:06 PM
D3 vs.

D1....0-21
D2....6-44
NAIA 1....15-26
NAIA 2....55-42
NCCAA 1....4-5
NCCAA 2....25-2
USCAA....29-14
Other....36-3

(Totals through 12/10)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 12, 2006, 05:27:58 PM
Scores from 12/11

Lehigh (D1) 83, Haverford 39
Mayville State (NAIA 2) 93, Martin Luther 56
North Park 74, Judson (NAIA 2) 57
Southeastern, FL (NCCAA 2) 61, Knox 49
Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 79, Albion 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 13, 2006, 09:34:51 AM
Scores from 12/12

CU-Colorado Springs (D2) 85, Colorado College 77
Robert Morris-Chicago (NAIA 1) 92, Monmouth 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 14, 2006, 10:12:52 AM
Scores from 12/13

Averett 85, Newport News (USCAA) 68
Judson (NAIA 2) 90, Beloit 89
Northern Michigan (D2) 95, UW-Stout 71
Warner Southern (NAIA 2) 78, Knox 55
UW-Stevens Point 75, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 15, 2006, 03:33:15 PM
Scores from 12/14

Briarcliffe (USCAA) 77, Centenary 75
Maine (D1) 75, Maine-Farmington 34
Northwestern (D1) 41, Wheaton 39
Widener 75, Maryland Bible (other) 46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 15, 2006, 05:37:25 PM
D3 vs.

D1....0-24
D2....6-46
NAIA 1....15-27
NAIA 2....57-46
NCCAA 1....4-5
NCCAA 2....25-3
USCAA....30-15
Other....37-3

(Totals through 12/14)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wooscotsfan on December 16, 2006, 10:18:46 PM
Final:  #1 Wooster 104  Cedarville (NAIA D2) 95

Wooster went on a 28-12 run to start the 2nd half and take control of this game.  This was a nice win over a solid 9-1 squad ranked #9 nationally in NAIA Division II.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Greek Tragedy on December 16, 2006, 10:21:50 PM
Platteville loses to the other Robert Morris-Springfield...that's a surprise.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2006, 10:46:57 AM
Scores from 12/15

Calvin 72, Trinity Christian (NAIA 2) 63
Hendrix 79, Dallas Christian (NCCAA 2) 48
Tri-State 71, Berea (NAIA 2) 68
Wagner (D1) 105, Union 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2006, 11:10:36 AM
Scores from 12/16

Army (D1) 101, SUNY-Purchase 40
Azusa Pacific (NAIA 1) 82, Adrian 66
Cal State-Los Angeles (D2) 129, Redlands 105
Cincinnati Christian (NCCAA 2) 71, Mount St. Joseph 68
Concordia, CA (NAIA 1) 77, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 56
Concordia-St. Paul (D2) 105, UW-River Falls 72
Cornell 73, Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 67
Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 80, Pacific Lutheran 75
Fisher (NAIA 2) 86, Morrisville State 82
LaGrange 84, Dallas Christian (NCCAA 2) 67
Manchester 62, Taylor-Fort Wayne (USCAA) 51
Missouri-St. Louis (D2) 99, Maryville, MO 62
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 82, UW-Platteville 74
Virginia Wesleyan 85, Newport News (USCAA) 67
Whitman 71, Biola (NAIA 1) 69
Wilkes 88, Penn State-Harrisburg (other) 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2006, 11:24:24 AM
Scores from 12/17

Chaminade (D2) 92, Presentation 50
Dana (NAIA 2) 60, Oneonta State 57
DePauw 84, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 63
DeSales 76, Briarcliffe, NY (USCAA) 58
Linfield 75, Walla Walla (NCCAA 1) 71
Maine Maritime 97, Fisher (NAIA 2) 94
Montana State-Northern (NAIA 1) 71, Adrian 63
Navy (D1) 65, Delaware Valley 40
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 18, 2006, 01:28:04 PM
Did anyone see any of these games in person
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 18, 2006, 04:56:56 PM
Many of us have seen games that fall into this category.  Why do you ask? 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2006, 09:59:54 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 18, 2006, 04:56:56 PM
Many of us have seen games that fall into this category.  Why do you ask? 
zonescantstopme likes to ask a lot of questions. Perhaps he's emulating Socrates or maybe he's inspired by Zen.  ::)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2006, 10:01:15 AM
Score from 12/18

UW-Whitewater 67, Siena Heights (NAIA 2) 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 19, 2006, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2006, 09:59:54 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 18, 2006, 04:56:56 PM
Many of us have seen games that fall into this category.  Why do you ask? 
zonescantstopme likes to ask a lot of questions. Perhaps he's emulating Socrates or maybe he's inspired by Zen.  ::)

If I remember clearly my days teaching Introduction to Philosophy, Socrates commonly knew the answer before he posed the question.

But if we wish to take the Zen path, perhaps we should applaud "zonescant's" efforts using only one hand.  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2006, 09:45:38 AM
Scores from 12/19

Chapman 81, Hope International (NAIA 1) 52
Northwood (D2) 79, Alma 67
Simon Fraser (other) 82, Oneonta State 62
Western Oregon (D2) 94, Willamette 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 21, 2006, 05:27:22 PM
Scores from 12/20

California Baptist (NAIA 1) 94, Wooster 89
Lafayette (D1) 89, King's 80
La Sierra 87, Simpson, CA (NAIA 2) 68
Montclair State 93, Briarcliffe, NY (USCAA) 61
Navy (D1) 83, Washington College 37
Northern Iowa (D1) 83, Wartburg 61
Southwestern Louisiana (D1) 90, Millsaps 67
St. Martin's (D2) 78, George Fox 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 21, 2006, 08:29:25 PM
OUCH!

Except perhaps for King's-Lafayette, certainly no games against d1 like Wheaton-Northwestern!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 22, 2006, 09:46:17 AM

Is King's that good?  I thought Lafayette was at least a decent d1 team this year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2006, 09:46:42 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 21, 2006, 08:29:25 PM
OUCH!

Except perhaps for King's-Lafayette, certainly no games against d1 like Wheaton-Northwestern!

I believe that those two games were the only single-digit losses against D1 teams so far. Kenyon led Eastern Kentucky by 13 at the half, but ended up losing 63-52. In addition, lower level D1 schools are becoming more cautious when scheduling D3 opponents, which makes it harder for D3 to come up with victories.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2006, 09:56:52 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 22, 2006, 09:46:17 AM

Is King's that good?  I thought Lafayette was at least a decent d1 team this year.

King's is 4-5. Lafayette is 5-7. The Leopards beat Lycoming by 18 earlier in the year. They appear to be an average Patriot League team.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2006, 10:01:22 AM
Scores from 12/21

Chaminade (D2) 91, Central 63
Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 88, Thomas More 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2006, 12:32:12 PM
D3 vs.

D1....0-31
D2....6-54
NAIA 1....18-31
NAIA 2....64-49
NCCAA 1....5-5
NCCAA 2....27-4
USCAA....34-17
Other....38-4

(Totals through 12/21)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 24, 2006, 10:42:15 AM
Score from 12/22

Shippensburg (D2) 72, Neumann 50
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 28, 2006, 02:04:14 PM
Scores from 12/27

Concordia, OR (NAIA 2) 88, Pacific Lutheran 65
Graceland (NAIA 2) 72, Clarke 60
New Paltz State 81, Bethany, CA (NAIA 2) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 29, 2006, 08:21:53 PM
Scores from 12/28

Aquinas (NAIA 2) 80, Ohio Wesleyan 79
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 67, Mary Washington 36
Northern Michigan (D2) 101, UW-Stevens Point 92
North Florida (D2) 70, Skidmore 43
Tampa (D2) 84, Fontbonne 71
University of the Sciences (D2) 64, Chestnut Hill 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 29, 2006, 10:57:22 PM
Lebanon Valley 63, Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2, #6) 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 30, 2006, 02:44:43 PM
Emmanuel 56 Northwood (NAIA 2) 54

A somewhat surprising score since Emmanuel was one of nine winless Division III teams and Northwood was receiving votes in the NAIA 2 poll.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2006, 10:38:14 AM
Scores from 12/29

Bellevue, NE (NAIA 2) 72, Loras 62
Bethany, KS (NAIA 2) 75, Milwaukee Engineering 69
Bethel, KS (NAIA 2) 66, Clarke 63
Bluffton 94, Wright State-Lake (other) 59
Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 73, UC Santa Cruz 57
Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 87, Grove City 82
Hope 69, Trinity Christian (NAIA 2) 53
Indiana-Southeast (NAIA 2) 83, Thiel 59
Lehman 63, Briarcliffe, NY (USCAA) 41
Messiah 73, Geneva (NAIA 2) 60
Millikin 75, West Coast Baptist (other) 57
Minnesota-Mankato (D2) 82, Concordia-Moorhead 54
Mount Vernon Nazarene (NAIA 2) 101, Hanover 83
Ohio Wesleyan 86, Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 76
Olivet Nazarene (NAIA 1) 72, Mass-Dartmouth 63
Westmont (NAIA 1) 77, Thomas More 47
UW-River Falls 110, North Central, MN (NCCAA 2) 66
UW-Stout 59, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 55
UW-Superior 75, Bemidji State (D2) 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2006, 12:01:24 PM
Scores from 12/30

Bethany, KS (NAIA 2) 79, Willamette 64
Bluffton 76, Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 74
Cal State Maritime (NAIA 2) 98, UC Santa Cruz 65
Concordia-Austin 89, Incarnate Word (D2) 85
Grove City 87, Wright State-Lake (other) 77 (OT)
Hope 76, Rochester, MI (USCAA) 74
Iowa Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 59, Luther 49
Lewis (D2) 78, Carthage 60
Lubbock Christian (NAIA 1) 87, Sul Ross State 68
Macalester 78, Viterbo 75 (NAIA 2) (OT)
Minnesota-Mankato (D2) 72, Carleton 69
Mississippi College 81, Westmont (NAIA 1) 77
Missouri-St. Louis (D2) 80, Blackburn 68
Northwood (NAIA 2) 79, Mass-Dartmouth 62
Olivet Nazarene (NAIA 1) 63, Emmanuel 44
Pacific Lutheran 105, Puget Sound Christian (NCCAA 2) 62
Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) 56, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 47
Robert Morris (D1) 83, Goucher 38
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 67, Rose-Hulman 49
Sam Houston State (D1) 86, McMurry 55
Stephen F. Austin (D1) 89, Howard Payne 63
Stetson (D1) 85, Skidmore 55
St. Norbert 79, Geneva (NAIA 2) 69
St. Scholastica 93, North Central, MN (NCCAA 2) 73
Texas-Dallas 78, Texas-Arlington (D1) 76
Transylvania 58, Westminster, UT (NAIA 1) 57
Whitman 79, West Coast Baptist (other) 75
UW-Stout 76, Jamestown (NAIA 2) 68
Wittenberg 78, Indiana-Southeast (NAIA 2) 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 01, 2007, 04:20:43 PM
Scores from 12/31

Chaminade (D2) 101, New Paltz State 86
Portland (D1) 74, Lewis and Clark 64
Rockford 52, Westminster, UT (NAIA 1) 51
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 03:19:50 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2006, 10:38:14 AM
Scores from 12/29
Hope 69, Trinity Christian (NCCAA 1) 53

Trinity Christian is also a member of NAIA-2. The Trolls are in the Chicagoland Collegiate Athletic Conference, which has separate NAIA-1 and NAIA-2 divisions.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 05:21:05 AM
The "Trolls"?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:21:43 AM
Yep.

Trinity Christian has lots of pretty coeds and alumnae. It's loads of fun to tease them by calling them "trolls" -- nothing enhances mild flirtation better than when a woman's alma mater has a mortifyingly unflattering nickname. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 08:17:04 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:21:43 AM
Yep.

Trinity Christian has lots of pretty coeds and alumnae. It's loads of fun to tease them by calling them "trolls" -- nothing enhances mild flirtation better than when a woman's alma mater has a mortifyingly unflattering nickname. ;)

Perhaps if you called them something less "mortifying," the "mild flirtation" would become something more serious.  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 02, 2007, 09:06:53 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 03:19:50 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2006, 10:38:14 AM
Scores from 12/29
Hope 69, Trinity Christian (NCCAA 1) 53

Trinity Christian is also a member of NAIA-2. The Trolls are in the Chicagoland Collegiate Athletic Conference, which has separate NAIA-1 and NAIA-2 divisions.

Thanks for the correction. I'll make the change.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 02, 2007, 09:11:10 AM
Score from 1/1

Lamar (D1) 91, Louisiana College 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 02, 2007, 09:15:30 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:21:43 AM
Yep.

Trinity Christian has lots of pretty coeds and alumnae. It's loads of fun to tease them by calling them "trolls" -- nothing enhances mild flirtation better than when a woman's alma mater has a mortifyingly unflattering nickname. ;)

Wow!  I cannot think of a similar "pick-up" line ever posted on these boards!

That Gregory Sager is a real "ladies man". ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 09:24:46 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 02, 2007, 09:15:30 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:21:43 AM
Yep.

Trinity Christian has lots of pretty coeds and alumnae. It's loads of fun to tease them by calling them "trolls" -- nothing enhances mild flirtation better than when a woman's alma mater has a mortifyingly unflattering nickname. ;)

Wow!  I cannot think of a similar "pick-up" line ever posted on these boards!

That Gregory Sager is a real "ladies man". ;)

Indeed. I can hear him now ... "Hi, troll. Wanna come see my cave-art etchings?"
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 02, 2007, 11:01:18 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-37
D2....8-64
NAIA 1....21-36
NAIA 2....75-63
NCCAA 1....5-5
NCCAA 2....30-4
USCAA....39-19
Other....40-4

(Totals through 1/1)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on January 02, 2007, 11:13:34 AM
Picking up a woman from Trinity Christian is so easy, even a caveman could do it.  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 08:17:04 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:21:43 AM
Yep.

Trinity Christian has lots of pretty coeds and alumnae. It's loads of fun to tease them by calling them "trolls" -- nothing enhances mild flirtation better than when a woman's alma mater has a mortifyingly unflattering nickname. ;)

Perhaps if you called them something less "mortifying," the "mild flirtation" would become something more serious.  ;)

It's called "teasing", Warren. Even I, a bachelor who is probably exceeded in his understanding of the female mind by 95% of the single men in America, know that teasing is a terrifically successful form of flirtation if done properly. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 07:45:35 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 08:17:04 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:21:43 AM
Yep.

Trinity Christian has lots of pretty coeds and alumnae. It's loads of fun to tease them by calling them "trolls" -- nothing enhances mild flirtation better than when a woman's alma mater has a mortifyingly unflattering nickname. ;)

Perhaps if you called them something less "mortifying," the "mild flirtation" would become something more serious.  ;)

It's called "teasing", Warren. Even I, a bachelor who is probably exceeded in his understanding of the female mind by 95% of the single men in America, know that teasing is a terrifically successful form of flirtation if done properly. ;)

"Teasing is a terrifically successful form of flirtation if done properly"? Oh my! Greg, I wish you'd have told me that about 45 years ago ....  :o

(BTW now I'm teasing you.  ;))
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:51:27 PM
Yes, I know, and so are those two other Hall of Famer guys.

There's a reason why I made comments about the comeliness of TCC women on a board that scrolls very quickly. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on January 02, 2007, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:41:04 PM
teasing is a terrifically successful form of flirtation if done properly. ;)

Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 07:45:35 PM
(BTW now I'm teasing you.  ;))


Hmm...  get a room guys? 


JK, how's THAT for teasing?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 08:17:48 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on January 02, 2007, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:41:04 PM
teasing is a terrifically successful form of flirtation if done properly. ;)

Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 07:45:35 PM
(BTW now I'm teasing you.  ;))

Hmm...  get a room guys? 

Point:

For a rejoinder, that's pretty weak, worn, and overdone. Surely you can do better. :P
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on January 02, 2007, 08:24:53 PM
My apologies... I've been out of the loop for about a week (actually, I was in the Loop, staying in the Palmer House in Chicago!), I'm a little rusty...   :-\   :)

How about this?



Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:41:04 PM
teasing is a terrifically successful form of flirtation if done properly. ;)

Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 07:45:35 PM
(BTW now I'm teasing you.  ;))

You're going to have to work harder than THAT to gain favor with Sager!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on January 02, 2007, 08:24:53 PM
My apologies... I've been out of the loop for about a week (actually, I was in the Loop, staying in the Palmer House in Chicago!), I'm a little rusty...   :-\   :)

How about this?



Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2007, 07:41:04 PM
teasing is a terrifically successful form of flirtation if done properly. ;)

Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 07:45:35 PM
(BTW now I'm teasing you.  ;))

You're going to have to work harder than THAT to gain favor with Sager!

Work harder than what? I'm light-years older than Greg and have absolutely no need to "gain favor" with him -- or anyone else -- nor he with me.  We've grown up, you see. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on January 02, 2007, 08:39:22 PM
The irony, lost long ago, by now, is that Sager said that teasing is "a terrifically seccessful form of flirtation if done properly," to which you responded by teasing him, implying, perhaps, that you were flirting with him.

It was a joke, see?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on January 02, 2007, 08:39:22 PM
The irony, lost long ago, by now, is that Sager said that teasing is "a terrifically seccessful form of flirtation if done properly," to which you responded by teasing him, implying, perhaps, that you were flirting with him.

It was a joke, see?

See, I saw the whole thing as a joke, as did Greg. In order to avoid any confusion among those who read these posts, perhaps I should have footnoted my response to him. Kindly forgive me.  :-[
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on January 02, 2007, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 08:45:01 PM
Kindly forgive me.

And me as well!

Getting back on subject...  with this weekend's D-3 over D-1 win, has the D-3 winning percentage versus the "big boys" improved in recent years, gotten worse, or stayed about the same?  The wins over D-1 squads are always high profile here, but there are relatively few D-1 vs D-3 games (or at least games such as these that are "winable") and the percentage has been so low that the individual games may just be those few one-out-of-100 games where the ball bounces just right for the D-3 team.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 03, 2007, 10:31:10 AM
Quote from: PointSpecial on January 02, 2007, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 02, 2007, 08:45:01 PM
Kindly forgive me.

And me as well!

Getting back on subject...  with this weekend's D-3 over D-1 win, has the D-3 winning percentage versus the "big boys" improved in recent years, gotten worse, or stayed about the same?  The wins over D-1 squads are always high profile here, but there are relatively few D-1 vs D-3 games (or at least games such as these that are "winable") and the percentage has been so low that the individual games may just be those few one-out-of-100 games where the ball bounces just right for the D-3 team.

Any thoughts?

D3 vs. D1

2002: 1-53
2003: 3-54
2004: 2-61
2005: 2-61
2006: 2-66
2007: 1-37
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 03, 2007, 10:34:13 AM
Scores from 1/2

Emmanuel, GA (NAIA 1) 97, LaGrange 70
Fort Lewis (D2) 78, Colorado College 54
Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 82, Texas-Tyler 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 04, 2007, 11:11:26 AM
Scores from 1/3

Doane (NAIA 2) 70, Nebraska Wesleyan 61
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 66, Eastern Connecticut 54
FDU-Florham 92, Briarcliffe, NY (USCAA) 61
Houghton (NAIA 2) 83, Fredonia State 76
Kutztown State (D2) 71, Penn State-Berks 34
Lynchburg 95, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 91 (OT)
Medaille 52, Albany Pharmacy (other) 40
MIT 80, Fisher (NAIA 2) 63
New Jersey 70, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 53
Seton Hill (D2) 94, Western Connecticut 70
Shenandoah 68, Davis & Elkins (D2) 65
Warner Southern (NAIA 1) 82, North Carolina Wesleyan 45
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2007, 09:27:12 AM
Scores from 1/4

Flagler (NAIA 2) 83, North Carolina Wesleyan 73
Indiana-Purdue/Fort Wayne (D1) 107, Anderson 59
Oneonta State 67, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 60
Piedmont 93, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 80
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 73, Caltech 39
Westminster, MO 85, Baptist Bible, MO (NCCAA 2)
Westmont (NAIA 1) 72, Pomona-Pitzer 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2007, 01:38:16 PM
D3 vs.

D1....1-38
D2....9-67
NAIA 1....21-40
NAIA 2....77-66
NCCAA 1....6-5
NCCAA 2....32-4
USCAA....41-20
Other....41-4

(Totals through 1/4)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 07, 2007, 01:15:06 PM
Scores from 1/5

Albright 73, Penn Tech (other) 48
Alice Lloyd (NAIA 2) 73, SUNY-Farmingdale 63
College of the Ozarks (NAIA 2) 67, Goucher 62
Cornell, NY (D1) 80, Ithaca 47
Dubuque 101, Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 74
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 67, Husson 34
Life Pacific (other) 75, Bard 47
Minnesota-Morris 94, North Central, MN (NCCAA 2) 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 07, 2007, 01:43:23 PM
Scores from 1/6

Brooklyn 76, Berkeley (other) 63
Columbia (D1) 87, Marywood 38
Holy Names (NAIA 2) 97, UC Santa Cruz 62
Lycoming 64, Penn College (other) 49
Mount Marty (NAIA 2) 68, Presentation 66
Northwestern, IA (NAIA 2) 92, Nebraska Wesleyan 78
Occidental 71, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 65
Penn State-DuBois (USCAA) 62, Juniata 61
Redlands 151, Pacific Union (NAIA 2) 120
Scranton 104, Pratt (other) 46
Southern Virginia (USCAA) 88, Greensboro 86
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2007, 02:22:53 PM
Scores from 1/7

Lebanon Valley 93, Maryland Bible (other) 80
Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 83, Maine-Presque Isle 67
Morrisville State 81, Pratt (other) 65
St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 74, Thomas 56
Winston-Salem State (D1) 77, Ferrum 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 09, 2007, 01:41:31 PM
Scores from 1/8

North Carolina Wesleyan 116, Florida Christian (NCCAA 2) 87
Pillsbury Baptist (NCCAA 2) 77, Crown 64
Valley City State (NAIA 2) 67, Presentation 44
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 09, 2007, 03:23:40 PM
D3 vs.

D1....1-41
D2....9-67
NAIA 1....21-40
NAIA 2....78-74
NCCAA 1....6-5
NCCAA 2....35-5
USCAA....42-22
Other....47-5

(Totals through 1/8)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 11, 2007, 03:58:45 PM
Scores from 1/9

Western State (D2) 60, Colorado College 38
Whitman 101, Walla Walla (NCCAA 1) 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 11, 2007, 04:03:48 PM
Scores from 1/10

Geneseo State 75, Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 72 (OT)
Lakeland 104, Northland Baptist (NCCAA 2) 65
Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 73, Maine-Presque Isle 60
Montclair State 97, Berkeley (other) 55
Mount Ida 89, Fisher (NAIA 2) 83
Nebraska Wesleyan 76, Midland Lutheran (NAIA 2) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2007, 02:54:33 AM
Attention fans:

Rhodes Scholar has been elected to the Posting Hall of Fame.

Please make a note of it. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 12, 2007, 03:37:14 AM
Congrats, Rhodes. You amply deserve the honor.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: diehardfan on January 12, 2007, 03:49:10 AM
Rhodes... you have make obvious huge contributions to how well we understand DIII's place in the larger scheme of things. Congrats!

Incidentally, consider yourself officially targeted for a meet and greet and cookie drop... :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 12, 2007, 08:26:30 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2007, 02:54:33 AM
Attention fans:

Rhodes Scholar has been elected to the Posting Hall of Fame.

Please make a note of it. :)

Congrtulations, Rhodes Scholar!   :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 12, 2007, 09:13:44 AM
Alright.  Way to go you two.  Well deserved.  Enjoy those eight stars.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on January 12, 2007, 10:20:47 AM
Congratulations, Rhodes!  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: diehardfan on January 12, 2007, 02:44:31 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 12, 2007, 09:13:44 AM
Alright.  Way to go you two.  Well deserved.  Enjoy those eight stars.
Stars.... ooh.... pretty.... shiiiinnnyyy....  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on January 12, 2007, 03:50:24 PM
Congrats to all three new Hall of Fame inductees.

Rhodes, you do an excellent job monitoring the games tracked on this board.  As someone who has plumbed the depths of those Maine-Machias and Grace Bible websites for missing scores, I appreciate the work you do.  And I'll confess that I've even swiped your scores for our scoreboard on occasion. 

Frank, you do a great job providing interesting, candid and on-point insight for football and basketball.  You're one of the posters whose posts I read regularly because I know you "aim to please" as you like to say.

And DHF, you typify what makes this site a lot of fun -- a passionate, thoughtful, interesting fan that we can interact with over 100s or 1000s of miles.  If there's ever a book about D3sports Message Boards, you'll have to write the forward.

Dave, of course, will do the historical research.  :)

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Coach C on January 12, 2007, 04:07:00 PM
Rhodes -

Welcome to the land of eight stars!  It is a very deserved honor.

C
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2007, 05:30:45 PM
Pat, diehardfan, Greg, gordon, David, Ralph, Sac, Coach C and Hoops Fan (hope I didn't leave anyone out): Thanks one and all.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2007, 05:45:12 PM
Scores from 1/11

Central Bible (NCCAA 2) 84, North Central, MN 83
Waynesburg 78, Penn State-New Kensington (USCAA) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2007, 05:07:52 PM
Scores from 1/12

North Central, MN 70, Southeastern (NCCAA 2) 67
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 95, Keuka 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2007, 10:29:02 AM
Scores from 1/13

Briar Cliff (NAIA 2) 77, Nebraska Wesleyan 73
Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 83, Mt. St. Joseph 77
North Central, MN 87, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 50
Point Park (NAIA 2) 110, Lincoln 88
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 61, Rochester Tech 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2007, 04:12:59 PM
D3 vs.

D1....1-41
D2....9-68
NAIA 1....21-40
NAIA 2....81-79
NCCAA 1....7-5
NCCAA 2.....38-6
USCAA....44-24
Other....47-4

(Totals through 1/14)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 15, 2007, 04:21:46 PM
Whoa - Clermont strikes again. They must have played horribly against Wabash, or the HCAC isn't that great.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 16, 2007, 02:30:56 AM
Quote from: smedindy on January 15, 2007, 04:21:46 PM
Whoa - Clermont strikes again. They must have played horribly against Wabash, or the HCAC isn't that great.

Here's Cincinnati-Clermont's results against D3 teams this season:

11/20WilmingtonL 61-75
11/25HanoverL 70-100
11/26CentreL 69-83
12/8WabashL 51-83
12/18Rose-HulmanL 60-70
12/21Thomas MoreW 88-66
12/29Grove CityW 87-82
12/30BlufftonL 74-76
1/13Mount St. JosephW 83-77

My guess is that Cincinnati-Clermont is a young team that is now beginning to gel in midseason. Both their recent results and their roster (no seniors, only one junior) would seem to bear that out.

The Cougars were in the USCAA national championship game last season, and are 10-0 in their league this season, for whatever that's worth.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2007, 02:39:07 AM
They're also trying to get into Division III, so someday they'll be off this list.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 16, 2007, 07:42:45 AM
Having seen them - they are young - but they didn't seem to have much discipline nor direction.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 16, 2007, 07:58:45 AM
I'm not disputing your assessment of the Cougars, but Bluffton and Mt. St. Joe are the co-leaders of a historically strong league that collectively went 52-24 in non-conference play this season. So Cincinnati-Clermont must be doing something right.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on January 16, 2007, 08:38:23 AM
Links to a couple of articles on the Fisk-TSU basketball game/rivalry last night.  Great game in front of a packed crowd and a great college atmosphere with the TSU band playing soo loud that you couldn't hear and the fraternaties stepping around the arena in the upper deck (8,700+ fans attended for the mens' game) but both the Fisk men's and women's teams lost to Tennessee State University.


http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070116/SPORTS0604/701160357/1345/SPORTS


http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070116/SPORTS0604/701160356/1345/SPORTS
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Darryl Nester on January 16, 2007, 09:15:32 AM
I saw UC-Clermont play two games in the Bluffton Holiday tournament -- beating Grove City and narrowly falling to Bluffton.  I agree with smedindy that they are a bit undisciplined, but they have some good shooters and can be dangerous when they get hot.  (One of their players came off the bench to hit 3-4 from three-point range against Grove City, and then went 3-5 against Bluffton.  I note, though, that his name is no longer on their roster.)

They do have a problem with depth; they only played 7 players against Bluffton.  Against GC, they had three starters with 3 fouls each in the first half.  Somehow, only one of them fouled out in the second half, while the other two were on the floor for most of the rest of the game--18 and 20 minutes.  That made all the difference in the second half.  (That, and GC shooting 45.8% from the FT line.)

I haven't seen a box score for the MSJ/UC-Clermont game, so I don't know what factors contributed to that result.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2007, 09:19:06 AM
Scores from 1/15

Grove City 68, Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 58
Rowan 82, Penn State-Abington (other) 69
Tennessee State (D1) 82, Fisk 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on January 16, 2007, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 16, 2007, 02:30:56 AM
My guess is that Cincinnati-Clermont is a young team that is now beginning to gel in midseason. Both their recent results and their roster (no seniors, only one junior) would seem to bear that out.

The Cougars were in the USCAA national championship game last season, and are 10-0 in their league this season, for whatever that's worth.

I should point out that Clermont's league is the Ohio Regional Campus Conference (ORCC), whose perhaps most (in)famous member is OSU-Marion.  Clermont and Marion square off twice in February.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2007, 11:04:22 AM
Correction: Penn State-Fayette, Penn State-DuBois and Penn State-New Kensington were all incorrectly classified as "other." They are, in fact, members of the USCAA. I have changed their classification on the scoreboard and updated the totals accordingly.

The games in question:

11/25  Carnegie Mellon 125, Penn State-Fayette (USCAA) 51
1/6  Penn State-DuBois (USCAA) 62, Juniata 61
1/11  Waynesburg 78, Penn State-New Kensington (USCAA) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 18, 2007, 12:15:25 PM
Scores from 1/16

Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 73, Nebraska Wesleyan 58
Dallas Christian (NCCAA 2) 69, University of Dallas 62
Faith Baptist (NCCAA 2) 73, Crown 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2007, 11:48:18 AM
Scores from 1/17

La Sierra 84, Southwestern, AZ (NCCAA 2) 65
Maryland-Eastern Shore (D1) 88, Shenandoah 64
Philander Smith (USCAA) 86, Rust 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2007, 12:05:59 PM
Scores from 1/18

Finlandia 80, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 76
Fisher (NAIA 2) 81, Westfield State 65
La Sierra 94, West Coast Baptist (other) 75
Piedmont 98, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 65
VMI (D1) 125, Bridgewater, VA 95
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 20, 2007, 11:42:30 AM
Scores from 1/19

North Central, MN 88, Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 50
Waynesburg 88, Franciscan-Steubenville (other) 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 21, 2007, 05:57:14 PM
Score from 1/20

Dordt (NAIA 2) 83, Nebraska Wesleyan 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 21, 2007, 11:34:50 PM
Everytime I see Dordt I wonder if the Swedish Chef is coaching them...

Bork! Bork! Bork!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 22, 2007, 04:58:01 AM
Quote from: smedindy on January 21, 2007, 11:34:50 PM
Everytime I see Dordt I wonder if the Swedish Chef is coaching them...

Bork! Bork! Bork!

It's actually a Christian Reformed Church school, like Calvin, and like Calvin it's as Dutch-American as a school can possibly be. The school is named after the Canons of Dordt, one of the more important theological documents of the Reformed tradition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2007, 05:15:49 AM
I am sure that I have seen the Swedish Chef use a Dutch Oven. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 22, 2007, 11:22:52 PM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....9-68
NAIA 1....21-40
NAIA 2....81-82
NCCAA 1....7-5
NCCAA 2....42-8
USCAA....47-24
Other....49-4

(Totals through 1/21)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2007, 11:43:40 AM
Score from 1/22

Oakwood (other) 81, Rust 80
Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 68, Thiel 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 23, 2007, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: smedindy on January 21, 2007, 11:34:50 PM
Everytime I see Dordt I wonder if the Swedish Chef is coaching them...

Bork! Bork! Bork!

Maybe I missed something, but what does the failed Supreme Court appointee have to do with this?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 24, 2007, 11:14:04 AM
Scores from 1/23

Colorado-Colorado Springs (D2) 94, Colorado College 69
Fisk 96, Philander Smith (USCAA) 86
Greensboro 83, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 60
Presentation 93, Trinity Bible (NCCAA 2) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sixfour on January 25, 2007, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2007, 02:22:53 PM
Scores from 1/7

St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 74, Thomas 56



After reading this I checked this schools schedule out and see some interesting things which make me wonder why some schools do not compete in the NCAA officially...if anyone can offer insight im open to it...here are the things im talking about:

St Joseph's Brooklyn:

Lost to Hunter by 4, if i remember correctly someone on posting up said they had Hunter on the ropes until late in the game, and St Joseph's controlled the game most of the way.

Lost to Kings Point in a close one (someone reported on that in posting up as well)

Smashed USCAA Briarcliff, 2 wins on the season against them

Beat NAIA College of Saint Joseph Vermont.

Beat NCAA Thomas College and Pratt Institute.

On their schedule coming up are CUNY Brooklyn and CSI.

Their website DOES say they have been playing minus their starting center (who is only 6 foot 4) but like i said...any insight into this program? They have obviously peaked my interest this season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2007, 11:43:37 AM
Score from 1/24

Hastings (NAIA 2) 65, Nebraska Wesleyan 55


Score from 1/25

Rust 100, Knoxville (other) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 27, 2007, 11:25:36 AM
Scores from 1/26

Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 96, Concordia, WI 59
Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 66, Concordia, IL 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 27, 2007, 08:44:46 PM
Quote from: sixfour on January 25, 2007, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2007, 02:22:53 PM
Scores from 1/7

St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 74, Thomas 56



After reading this I checked this schools schedule out and see some interesting things which make me wonder why some schools do not compete in the NCAA officially...if anyone can offer insight im open to it...here are the things im talking about:

St Joseph's Brooklyn:

They are trying to join the NCAA and enter the provisional membership process next season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sixfour on January 28, 2007, 01:21:40 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 27, 2007, 08:44:46 PM
Quote from: sixfour on January 25, 2007, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2007, 02:22:53 PM
Scores from 1/7

St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 74, Thomas 56



After reading this I checked this schools schedule out and see some interesting things which make me wonder why some schools do not compete in the NCAA officially...if anyone can offer insight im open to it...here are the things im talking about:

St Joseph's Brooklyn:

They are trying to join the NCAA and enter the provisional membership process next season.

Thanks Pat!

someone had already mentioned that i believe....however i waslooking for some insight into this team if anyone had some....i see they have 2 cuny matchups against Brooklyn College and perrenial power CSI coming up and a contest against Polytechnic also, I will be watching for their scores.

What do you think of their chances in the NCAA and will they be in a conference???

Thanks!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2007, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: sixfour on January 28, 2007, 01:21:40 PM
...
What do you think of their chances in the NCAA and will they be in a conference???

Thanks!

sixfour, I would flip the question back to you and ask what does St Joseph's Brooklyn have that a conference would want.  Do they bring sports other than basketball that strengthen a conference such as the Skyline or the North East AC?  Would they be any type of fit for the CUNYAC?  What do the St Joseph's women bring to the table? :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 28, 2007, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2007, 02:34:52 PMWould they be any type of fit for the CUNYAC?

Probably not, because it's not a CUNY (City University of New York) school. The CUNYAC schools are all public institutions owned and operated by New York City. St. Joe's of Brooklyn is a private school.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sixfour on January 28, 2007, 03:52:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2007, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: sixfour on January 28, 2007, 01:21:40 PM
...
What do you think of their chances in the NCAA and will they be in a conference???

Thanks!

sixfour, I would flip the question back to you and ask what does St Joseph's Brooklyn have that a conference would want.  Do they bring sports other than basketball that strengthen a conference such as the Skyline or the North East AC?  Would they be any type of fit for the CUNYAC?  What do the St Joseph's women bring to the table? :)


i dont know any of these answers which is why i asked :) i dont know if they are slated for a conference or not, and if they arent i would wonder why not, since they are obviously competitive with the teams in the region. In my opinion thaqt is what a conference would want.

As far as the womens programs, i am sure there are ways to find out.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2007, 05:00:55 PM
St Joseph's Brooklyn (http://www.sjcny.edu/bears.php) needs to add four men's sports and one women's sport to field the full complement of 5 and 5, altho' they say they field 7 Intercollegiate Sports on the web site.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2007, 10:49:51 AM
Scores from 1/27

Fisk 70, Oakwood (other) 69
LaGrange 84, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 70
La Sierra 72, West Coast Baptist (other) 67
Mount Marty (NAIA 2) 68, Nebraska Wesleyan 65
Piedmont 98, Southeastern (NCCAA 2) 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2007, 10:52:26 AM
Scores from 1/28

Albany Pharmacy (other) 79, Keuka 78
Lyndon State 91, Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on January 29, 2007, 10:10:48 PM
Here's another from 1/25...

Maine-Augusta (USCAA) 65 Maine-Presque Isle 53

If only Fisk or Rust would post a score...

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2007, 11:40:19 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on January 29, 2007, 10:10:48 PM
Here's another from 1/25...

Maine-Augusta (USCAA) 65 Maine-Presque Isle 53

If only Fisk or Rust would post a score...



...it would make my task a bit easier. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2007, 11:21:54 AM
Scores from 1/29

UDC (D2) 75, Lincoln 70
Gallaudet 53, Christendom (USCAA) 37
George Fox 73, Northwest Christian (NAIA 2) 68
Lake Erie 97, Franciscan (other) 72
Penn State-Altoona 88, Washington Bible College (NCCAA 2) 36
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2007, 11:47:55 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....9-70
NAIA 1....21-40
NAIA 2....83-87
NCCAA 1....8-5
NCCAA 2....45-8
USCAA....51-26
Other....52-6

(Totals* through 1/29)

*Three missing scores will be added later when they become available.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2007, 11:48:17 AM
Scores from 1/30

Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 56, Huntingdon 53
Brooklyn 75, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 68
Central Arkansas (D2) 75, University of the Ozarks 58
Doane (NAIA 2) 72, Nebraska Wesleyan 62
La Sierra 73, Life Pacific (other) 52
Piedmont 117, Toccoa Falls (NCCAA 2) 74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 31, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
What scores are you missing??
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2007, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 31, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
What scores are you missing??

I'm missing more than I originally thought. Here's the list:

1/17 Rust vs. Philander Smith
1/25 Rust vs. Knoxville
1/26 Fisk vs. Concordia-Selma
1/27 Fisk vs. Oakwood
1/27 La Sierra vs. West Coast Baptist
1/30 La Sierra vs. Life Pacific
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gray Fox on January 31, 2007, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2007, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 31, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
What scores are you missing??

1/27 La Sierra vs. West Coast Baptist
1/30 La Sierra vs. Life Pacific
1/27 La Sierra 72 vs. West Coast Baptist 67
1/30 La Sierra vs. Life Pacific - still not reported.

According to the school web site
http://www.lasierra.edu/departments/athletics/mbasketball/schedule.html
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 31, 2007, 03:53:44 PM

Is that grey fox in the picture dead?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gray Fox on January 31, 2007, 04:07:33 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 31, 2007, 03:53:44 PM

Is that grey fox in the picture dead?
Just relaxing (I hope).   ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2007, 10:23:35 PM
Gray Fox: Thanks for the score. I added it to the list of scores of 1/27 and I edited the latest totals.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 01, 2007, 03:30:51 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 31, 2007, 03:53:44 PM

Is that grey fox in the picture dead?

It's pining for the fjords.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 01, 2007, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 01, 2007, 03:30:51 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 31, 2007, 03:53:44 PM

Is that grey fox in the picture dead?

It's pining for the fjords.


That was quality there.  Finally a Monty Python reference not from one of the movies.  A true fan.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 01, 2007, 10:24:02 AM
It's waiting for Icelandic Honey week!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 01, 2007, 10:37:37 AM

Even if it is dead, Mr. Neutron could probably jolt it back to life.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gray Fox on February 01, 2007, 04:45:14 PM
I decided to use a picture that is more PC (PETA cooperative,  politically correct, not Pat Coleman).  :-[
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on February 01, 2007, 04:49:44 PM
How long have you been doing a local radio show in Wooster, OH?  ???


(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegrayfoxandtheboomer.com%2F_borders%2FGRAYFOX.jpg&hash=b51b29ac47d2d06972e97000f1319d24c7690ec3) (http://www.thegrayfoxandtheboomer.com/)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 01, 2007, 07:10:54 PM
Sorry Rhodes, it seems that no one that Fisk or Rust plays likes to post scores, either.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2007, 08:21:26 PM
Quote from: smedindy on February 01, 2007, 07:10:54 PM
Sorry Rhodes, it seems that no one that Fisk or Rust plays likes to post scores, either.

Thanks for the effort. If the scores don't turn up, I'll attempt to contact the schools via e-mail. Don't know if that'll help, but it's worth a try.

P.S. I'm assuming last night's Rust vs. Fisk game won't be too easy to track down either. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2007, 08:35:50 PM
Scores from 1/31

Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 87, Maine-Presque Isle 85
Winona State (D2) 79, Clarke 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 01, 2007, 10:00:20 PM
If Rust plays Fisk, and no one is there to report it, did it really happen?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on February 02, 2007, 02:00:18 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2007, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 31, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
What scores are you missing??

I'm missing more than I originally thought. Here's the list:

1/26 Fisk vs. Concordia-Selma

This game does not appear on Concordia-Selma's schedule, as published on their web site:
http://www.faithwebsites.com/concordiaselma/newsfile4386_9.pdf  (note that it is a PDF file)

I also can't find anything about it in the Selma Times-Journal archives, and they do seem to cover Concordia sports from time to time.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 02, 2007, 06:46:25 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 01, 2007, 10:37:37 AM

Even if it is dead, Mr. Neutron could probably jolt it back to life.

And if it was from the zoo, it'd have "Property of the Zoo" stamped upon it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 02, 2007, 09:04:38 AM
Quote from: smedindy on February 01, 2007, 10:00:20 PM
If Rust plays Fisk, and no one is there to report it, did it really happen?

If Rust played Fisk and a tree fell onto the court, would anyone hear it?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2007, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on February 02, 2007, 02:00:18 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2007, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 31, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
What scores are you missing??

I'm missing more than I originally thought. Here's the list:

1/26 Fisk vs. Concordia-Selma

This game does not appear on Concordia-Selma's schedule, as published on their web site:
http://www.faithwebsites.com/concordiaselma/newsfile4386_9.pdf  (note that it is a PDF file)

I also can't find anything about it in the Selma Times-Journal archives, and they do seem to cover Concordia sports from time to time.

Thanks for going the extra mile. Maybe, in this instance, there never was a game to report.  :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2007, 12:37:50 PM
Correction: Vermont Tech was incorrectly classified as USCAA. The school has dual membership in the USCAA and the NAIA. They are first-year members of the Sunrise Conference in division two of the NAIA. I am reclassifying them as NAIA 2.

Game in question: Vermont Tech (NAIA 2), Johnson State 77 (11/29)

Unfortunately another loss to an NAIA 2 school.

Totals will be edited to reflect change.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2007, 12:45:18 PM
Scores from 2/1

Brooklyn 83, St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 74
King (NAIA 2) 71, Maryville, TN 64
Rowan 76, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2)
Vermont Tech (NAIA 2) 78, Green Mountain 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 02, 2007, 12:59:33 PM

Speaking of Vermont Tech.  Anyone get a score from their game against Green Mountain yet?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 02, 2007, 01:09:35 PM
They lost again, 78-66.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: diehardfan on February 02, 2007, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 02, 2007, 09:04:38 AM
Quote from: smedindy on February 01, 2007, 10:00:20 PM
If Rust plays Fisk, and no one is there to report it, did it really happen?
If Rust played Fisk and a tree fell onto the court, would anyone hear it?

:D :D :D K+ for that one!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2007, 02:11:22 PM
Score from 2/2

Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 82, North Central, MN 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2007, 03:27:38 PM
Scores from 2/3

Chapman 69, West Coast Baptist (other) 54
Colorado College 104, Johnson & Wales, CO (NAIA 2) 93
Dakota Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 74, Nebraska Wesleyan 53
Eastern 79, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 66
LeMoyne-Owen (D2) 89, Rust 73
Maine-Augusta (USCAA) 89, Maine-Presque Isle 86 (OT)
Milwaukee Engineering 69, Northland Baptist (NCCAA 2) 55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2007, 03:37:55 PM
Scores from 2/4

Albany Pharmacy (other) 70, Green Mountain 46
Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 91, Lyndon State 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 06, 2007, 10:43:24 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....9-73
NAIA 1....21-40
NAIA 2....84-93
NCCAA 1....8-5
NCCAA 2....48-9
USCAA....53-27
Other....55-8

(Totals through 2/4)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 07, 2007, 05:43:51 PM
Scores from 2/5

Clarke 88, Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 83
Lincoln 89, Penn State-Abington (other) 75
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 102, Mount Aloysius 88
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 07, 2007, 05:46:09 PM
Scores from 2/6

Green Mountain 85, Word of Life (other) 63
La Sierra 88, Life Pacific (other) 68
Northland Baptist (NCCAA 2) 88, Maranatha Baptist 76
St. Joseph's, ME 72, Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 67 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 08, 2007, 08:35:07 AM

What is GReen Mountain doing to me?  Originally they had that game as a loss on their website, but they've changed it now.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2007, 03:12:58 PM
Scores from 2/7

Defiance 65, Marygrove (USCAA) 50
Midland Lutheran (NAIA 2) 82, Nebraska Wesleyan 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2007, 03:16:55 PM
Nebraska Wesleyan is 2-14 vs. NAIA 2 opponents this year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on February 08, 2007, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2007, 03:16:55 PM
Nebraska Wesleyan is 2-14 vs. NAIA 2 opponents this year.

It seems Nebraska Wesleyan is having a down year ....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on February 08, 2007, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2007, 03:16:55 PM
Nebraska Wesleyan is 2-14 vs. NAIA 2 opponents this year.

It seems Nebraska Wesleyan is having a down year ....

Absolutely. The Prairie Wolves are 5-18 this year. Although Neb Wes has had great success in the past, they have been rather mediocre for the last five or six years. I have no idea why.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on February 08, 2007, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on February 08, 2007, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2007, 03:16:55 PM
Nebraska Wesleyan is 2-14 vs. NAIA 2 opponents this year.

It seems Nebraska Wesleyan is having a down year ....

Absolutely. The Prairie Wolves are 5-18 this year. Although Neb Wes has had great success in the past, they have been rather mediocre for the last five or six years. I have no idea why.

Yes, NW's lack of success this season is puzzling.

There's a similar conundrum in the Middle Atlantic region: Franklin & Marshall is at this very moment 7-15 and guaranteed a losing season. Very untypical for GRob's people. Many wish to blame him, but that just can't be the whole story, especially given his overall success with the program. (I forget how many times he's taken the Dips to the Final Four.)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 09, 2007, 06:12:06 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on February 08, 2007, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2007, 03:16:55 PM
Nebraska Wesleyan is 2-14 vs. NAIA 2 opponents this year.

It seems Nebraska Wesleyan is having a down year ....

Absolutely. The Prairie Wolves are 5-18 this year. Although Neb Wes has had great success in the past, they have been rather mediocre for the last five or six years. I have no idea why.

It would seem that NWU has not been able to adequately replace Todd Raridon (now at North Central) as head coach. He left after the 2003-04 season, and it's been downhill for the Wolves ever since.

Quote from: Warren Thompson on February 08, 2007, 05:11:26 PMThere's a similar conundrum in the Middle Atlantic region: Franklin & Marshall is at this very moment 7-15 and guaranteed a losing season. Very untypical for GRob's people. Many wish to blame him, but that just can't be the whole story, especially given his overall success with the program. (I forget how many times he's taken the Dips to the Final Four.)

Four (1979, 1991, 1996, and 2000).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on February 09, 2007, 08:08:26 AM
Four it is, Greg. Thanks.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 09, 2007, 08:09:36 AM
Happy 2000th, WT!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on February 09, 2007, 08:11:01 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 09, 2007, 08:09:36 AM
Happy 2000th, WT!

Wow! What's my prize? A fur-lined cuspidor? A lifetime supply of Bilgewater Beverages?   ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 09, 2007, 08:13:27 AM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on February 09, 2007, 08:11:01 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 09, 2007, 08:09:36 AM
Happy 2000th, WT!

Wow! What's my prize?  ;)

That's April's department, not mine. I don't bake. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on February 09, 2007, 08:16:15 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 09, 2007, 08:13:27 AM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on February 09, 2007, 08:11:01 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 09, 2007, 08:09:36 AM
Happy 2000th, WT!

Wow! What's my prize?  ;)

That's April's department, not mine. I don't bake. ;)

That's right. She's the Commandant of the D3 Cooks and Bakers Corps ....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on February 09, 2007, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on February 09, 2007, 08:11:01 AM
Wow! What's my prize? A fur-lined cuspidor? A lifetime supply of Bilgewater Beverages?   ;)

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 09, 2007, 08:13:27 AM
That's April's department, not mine. I don't bake. ;)

Ewwwww....
I can just smell a baking fur-lined cuspidor.
Ewwwww.... :P :P :P

Congratulations all the same, WT... :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 09, 2007, 02:11:18 PM
Scores from 2/8

Daniel Webster 86, Hampshire (other) 30
Rust 77, Philander Smith (USCAA) 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 09, 2007, 02:58:12 PM
Did you guys see we caught up on Fisk and Rust scores?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 09, 2007, 02:58:26 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 09, 2007, 02:11:18 PM
Daniel Webster 86, Hampshire (other) 30

Does this bring to mind those ridiculous Jimmy Fallon-Horation Sanz sketches from SNL for anyone else?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on February 09, 2007, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 09, 2007, 02:58:12 PM
Did you guys see we caught up on Fisk and Rust scores?


I did, and I wondered where they came from.  Are you claiming credit?  :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 09, 2007, 03:30:41 PM
Someone on the South committee fed them to us.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 09, 2007, 04:13:43 PM
Hampshire must be really horrid if Danny Webster can beat 'em by over fitty. Of course, they have co-ed Ultimate Frisbee. Dude....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2007, 10:29:15 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 09, 2007, 02:58:12 PM
Did you guys see we caught up on Fisk and Rust scores?

That's good news. I was about to send out some homing pigeons. :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2007, 10:38:38 AM
Correction: Life Pacific was incorrectly classified as NCCAA 2. They are no longer members of the NCCAA, and are now in the ACCA. I am reclassifying them as "other." Five games were affected.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2007, 10:43:19 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....9-73
NAIA 1....21-40
NAIA 2....85-95
NCCAA 1....8-5
NCCAA 2....48-11
USCAA....47-25
Other....68-10

(Totals through 2/9)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 11, 2007, 09:05:55 AM
Scores from 2/10

Dordt (NAIA 2) 89, North Central, MN 67
Johnson & Wales, CO (NAIA 2) 79, Colorado College 53
Lincoln 83, Newport News (USCAA) 78
Nebraska Wesleyan 87, Dana (NAIA 2) 71
Oakwood (other) 69, Rust 59
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 65, Huntingdon 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2007, 11:14:55 PM
Score from 2/11

Fisher (NAIA 2) 90, Maine-Presque Isle 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2007, 10:16:23 AM
Scores from 2/12

Chapman 69, Hawaii Pacific (D2) 67
Mount Aloysius 91, Franciscan (other) 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 15, 2007, 12:16:12 AM
Scores from 2/13

Chapman 81, West Coast Baptist (other) 63
Clarke 100, Emmaus Bible (NCCAA 2) 48
Northland 74, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 73
Northwest Christian (NAIA 2) 64, Pacific 61
Staten Island 88, St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 15, 2007, 12:30:55 AM
Correction: West Coast Baptist was incorrectly classified as USCAA. They are no longer members of that alliance. They are members of the ACCA and will be classified as "other." Eleven games were affected and the totals through 2/9 were changed.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 15, 2007, 08:35:48 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2007, 10:16:23 AM
Chapman 69, Hawaii Pacific (D2) 67


So Hawaii Pacific as opposed to Hawaii Atlantic?  That one seems a bit redundant.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on February 15, 2007, 10:19:21 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 15, 2007, 08:35:48 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2007, 10:16:23 AM
Chapman 69, Hawaii Pacific (D2) 67


So Hawaii Pacific as opposed to Hawaii Atlantic?  That one seems a bit redundant.

Hawaii Pacific beat the snot out of Hawaii Arctic, who's been hot and cold all season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 15, 2007, 10:39:38 AM
Well, then there's Florida Atlantic - so perhaps they could play Hawaii Pacific in a grudge match for total control of the seas?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 15, 2007, 11:35:03 AM

Maybe they can stage a rivalry game between Hawaii Pacific and Hawaii Also Pacific



That was more the joke I was looking for.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 16, 2007, 05:16:21 AM
My favorite school in this vein is Fresno Pacific University, which is an NAIA school. Someone forgot to tell the school's founders that Fresno is 150 miles from the beach.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Warren Thompson on February 16, 2007, 06:59:20 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 16, 2007, 05:16:21 AM
My favorite school in this vein is Fresno Pacific University, which is an NAIA school. Someone forgot to tell the school's founders that Fresno is 150 miles from the beach.

There's a similar thing with railroads formed in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. E.g., neither the Missouri Pacific nor the Texas & Pacific ever laid track anywhere near a locale suitable for beach volleyball..
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2007, 08:33:13 AM
Quote from: smedindy on February 15, 2007, 10:39:38 AM
Well, then there's Florida Atlantic - so perhaps they could play Hawaii Pacific in a grudge match for total control of the seas?

Is Indiana near the Indian Ocean?   ???
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 16, 2007, 08:45:16 AM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on February 16, 2007, 06:59:20 AM
the Missouri Pacific nor the Texas & Pacific ever laid track anywhere near a locale suitable for beach volleyball..

There's a nice (see: not too overgrown by crabgrass) patch of sand with a net down near UMKC.  You could play beach Volleyball there, well if it's not still 2 degrees.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 16, 2007, 08:46:29 AM
Ralph - If you control the Atlantic and the Pacific, I don't think the Indian or the Arctic will give you much resistance.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on February 16, 2007, 10:20:44 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 16, 2007, 05:16:21 AM
My favorite school in this vein is Fresno Pacific University, which is an NAIA school. Someone forgot to tell the school's founders that Fresno is 150 miles from the beach.

But the students there are so calm and peaceful...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on February 16, 2007, 01:55:04 PM
Rhodes:

For some reason,  I seem to recall you live near the NYC area.  Any chance you're coming to the Ramapo/NJCU game?

If you are, please swing by and say hello.  I'll be the broadcaster with the Detroit Tigers hat on.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2007, 10:11:29 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on February 16, 2007, 01:55:04 PM
Rhodes:

For some reason,  I seem to recall you live near the NYC area.  Any chance you're coming to the Ramapo/NJCU game?

If you are, please swing by and say hello.  I'll be the broadcaster with the Detroit Tigers hat on.

Yes, I live in Manhattan. If the game was in Jersey City I would go, but there's no way I can make it up to Ramapo tomorrow. However, I'll make sure to drop by the next time we're at the same game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on February 16, 2007, 10:21:01 PM
Cool.

You headed to the CUNYAC games?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2007, 10:32:12 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on February 16, 2007, 10:21:01 PM
Cool.

You headed to the CUNYAC games?

I should be at CCNY for at least two games on Sunday. And probably the semifinals as well.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: diehardfan on February 16, 2007, 10:37:29 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 16, 2007, 05:16:21 AM
My favorite school in this vein is Fresno Pacific University, which is an NAIA school. Someone forgot to tell the school's founders that Fresno is 150 miles from the beach.
And has serious water shortages thanks to dairy farming, among other issues.  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2007, 10:48:35 PM
Scores from 2/14

Greenville 90, St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA 2) 80
Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 95, LeTourneau 81
Millsaps 86, Wesley, MS (NCCAA 2) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2007, 10:51:16 PM
Scores from 2/15

St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 86, Polytechnic 69
Tennessee Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 65, Maryville, TN 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sixfour on February 16, 2007, 11:16:41 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2007, 10:51:16 PM
Scores from 2/15

St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 86, Polytechnic 69
Tennessee Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 65, Maryville, TN 64
:owow ....whats going on at polytechnic?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2007, 11:20:43 PM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....10-73
NAIA 1....21-41
NAIA 2....87-100
NCCAA 1....8-6
NCCAA 2....51-11
USCAA....49-26
Other....70-11

(Totals through 2/15)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: diehardfan on February 17, 2007, 12:51:52 AM
We are sorta having a bad year against the NAIA, huh?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 17, 2007, 01:35:10 AM
Quote from: diehardfan on February 17, 2007, 12:51:52 AM
We are sorta having a bad year against the NAIA, huh?

April, you beat me to it!

Rhodes Scholar, do you have previous years' results?  I though we usually had rough parity with NAIA 1 and a sizeable margin over NAIA 2, though I may be misremembering.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: diehardfan on February 17, 2007, 01:47:49 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 28, 2005, 04:30:05 PM
D3 vs.  

D1....2-61
D2....10-47
NAIA 1....16-22
NAIA 2....67-70
NCCAA....37-7
USCAA....68-7
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: diehardfan on February 17, 2007, 01:48:40 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on March 07, 2006, 05:09:28 PM
Totals through regular season*

D3 vs.

D1...2-66
D2...22-68
NAIA 1...22-31
NAIA 2...119-118
NCCAA...72-9
USCAA...75-18
Other...37-2

*Subject to revision. There are missing scores, but far fewer than those of previous years.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: diehardfan on February 17, 2007, 01:49:57 AM
You are misremembering, but we usually do better than we're doing. Rhodes Scholar, I am curious as to what you think the reason for that is...  ???
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2007, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: diehardfan on February 17, 2007, 01:49:57 AM
You are misremembering, but we usually do better than we're doing. Rhodes Scholar, I am curious as to what you think the reason for that is...  ???

I really don't have any great insight on this matter. Perhaps the scheduling favored D3 in previous years and now favors NAIA 2. The data is there for some kind of analysis to answer your question, but I haven't gone that far. Maybe I'll do it down the road. I do know that last year's totals and this year's totals are 100% complete. I tracked down every score of every game that was listed on the scoreboard. In previous years I let a fair amount of scores (maybe 20%) remain unrecorded.

Judging by the NAIA games that I've seen in recent years (almost all of them on tape), the top NAIA 2 teams were more or less comparable to their D3 counterparts, while the top NAIA 1 teams appeared to be slightly better than the top teams in D3.   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 19, 2007, 12:54:40 AM
Scores from 2/16

Baptist Bible 89, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 68
Lincoln Christian 78, Emmaus Bible (NCCAA 2) 42
Mount St. Joseph 88, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 74
Piedmont 114, Southeastern Bible (NCCAA 2) 83
Rust 82, Knoxville (other) 81
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 20, 2007, 05:02:49 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2007, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: diehardfan on February 17, 2007, 01:49:57 AM
You are misremembering, but we usually do better than we're doing. Rhodes Scholar, I am curious as to what you think the reason for that is...  ???

I really don't have any great insight on this matter. Perhaps the scheduling favored D3 in previous years and now favors NAIA 2. The data is there for some kind of analysis to answer your question, but I haven't gone that far. Maybe I'll do it down the road. I do know that last year's totals and this year's totals are 100% complete. I tracked down every score of every game that was listed on the scoreboard. In previous years I let a fair amount of scores (maybe 20%) remain unrecorded.

Judging by the NAIA games that I've seen in recent years (almost all of them on tape), the top NAIA 2 teams were more or less comparable to their D3 counterparts, while the top NAIA 1 teams appeared to be slightly better than the top teams in D3. 

I think that the major reason for D3's slippage against other small-school collectives, NAIA-2 in particular, is geographical. Isolated D3 teams (e.g., the Maine state institutions, Nebraska Wesleyan, Minnesota-Morris, Finlandia, Colorado College, etc.) tend to be D3's spear-carriers in most of the inter-organizational contests that Rhodes records here. Coincidentally or non-coincidentally, those isolated D3 teams tend to have disproportionally bad records, not just against non-D3 opponents but against D3 opponents as well. In other words, I don't think that we're exactly putting up the cream of our crop against the likes of the NAIA, USCAA, NCCAA, in a large proportion of these games.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 20, 2007, 11:05:19 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 20, 2007, 05:02:49 AM

I think that the major reason for D3's slippage against other small-school collectives, NAIA-2 in particular, is geographical. Isolated D3 teams (e.g., the Maine state institutions, Nebraska Wesleyan, Minnesota-Morris, Finlandia, Colorado College, etc.) tend to be D3's spear-carriers in most of the inter-organizational contests that Rhodes records here. Coincidentally or non-coincidentally, those isolated D3 teams tend to have disproportionally bad records, not just against non-D3 opponents but against D3 opponents as well. In other words, I don't think that we're exactly putting up the cream of our crop against the likes of the NAIA, USCAA, NCCAA, in a large proportion of these games.

You may or may not be on to something. I can't really say at this point because I've only recorded the results; I haven't analyzed them. It is true that the D3s in Maine are not top-notch teams, but their NAIA 2 opponents are in the Sunrise Conference, which is probably one of the weakest NAIA 2 conferences in the country. So in that instance, at least, weak D3s are facing weak NAIA 2s, which actually is a fairly good barometer of the relative strength of the two organizations.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 20, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
Scores from 2/17

University of Dallas 84, Johnson & Wales, CO (NAIA 2) 77
Finlandia 84, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 73
LaGrange 97, Carver Bible (NCCAA 2) 93
Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 66, Maine-Presque Isle 60
Nebraska Wesleyan 78, Briar Cliff (NAIA 2) 66
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 83, Piedmont 75
St. Joseph's, ME 99, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 82
Wesley, MS (NCCAA 2) 73, Huntingdon 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: pufin on February 20, 2007, 11:27:42 AM
The NCAA rules that are pusing teams to play more in-region games may be a factor, also.  This year, there are 249 results against NAIA-1 and -2.  Last year there were 290. This may not be a significant difference, but are teams trying to schedule more NCAA D3 (in-region) games at the expense of games against non-NCAA schools?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 20, 2007, 12:38:42 PM
Sometimes, I think games against NAIA schools (and others) may be games that one schedules because they can get no other team, or some other team drops out unexpectedly from a tourney or a scheduled game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 21, 2007, 12:42:39 PM
Score from 2/20

Lincoln 91, Penn State-Delaware County (other) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 22, 2007, 10:53:35 AM
Score from 2/21

Lyndon State 86, New Hampshire Tech (USCAA) 82 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2007, 10:04:33 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....10-73
NAIA 1....21-41
NAIA 2....90-101
NCCAA 1....8-7
NCCAA 2....56-12
USCAA....51-26
Other....72-11

(Totals through 2/23)

Final totals for 2006-07 season
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: pg04 on October 23, 2007, 01:53:44 AM
Well after years of Being a Division III - ite, I am taking grad classes at a Division II school (Nova Southeastern University)! 

No Football, but they do have basketball, and will be playing a D-3 school this year here in Florida.  They play Lawrence of Wisconsin (Who I think I remember was pretty good 2 years ago) on December 17th .

What style does Lawrence play? I see that they are in the same conference as Grinell.. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on October 23, 2007, 04:32:13 AM
Quote from: pg04 on October 23, 2007, 01:53:44 AM
Well after years of Being a Division III - ite, I am taking grad classes at a Division II school (Nova Southeastern University)! 

No Football, but they do have basketball, and will be playing a D-3 school this year here in Florida.  They play Lawrence of Wisconsin (Who I think I remember was pretty good 2 years ago) on December 17th .

What style does Lawrence play? I see that they are in the same conference as Grinell.. 

Lawrence doesn't play a style that's anything like Grinnell's unorthodox style, if that's what you're asking. Lawrence has a new head coach this year, so it remains to be seen what sort of offense he's going to institute. But don't hold your breath that it's going to be the uptempo, mass-substitution "mice tumbling out of a shoebox" mode preferred by Grinnell coach Dave Arseneault.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: haterinthehouse on October 26, 2007, 03:14:01 PM
West Region Independent Nebraska Wesleyan University will be playing against cross town rival University of Nebraska next Friday (Nov. 2) in an Exhibition game.  The game is scheduled to begin at 7:00 pm CST.  Nebraska will try to highlight 6-11 pre-season all-american Aleks Maric.  Wesleyan has 12 returning letterman on their roster.  The two teams have not matched up since the 1920's.  Go to NWUSPORTS.COM for more information
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ChicagoHopeNut on October 26, 2007, 06:10:17 PM
Both Hope and Albion will be playing U of Detroit-Mercy a D-1 Horizon League team in pre-season exhibitions. Albion plays Nov. 2 and Hope plays Nov. 6.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ChicagoHopeNut on November 01, 2007, 10:25:34 PM
This evening Western Michigan University (ranked #23 in the collegeinsider.com mid-major poll) hosted Tri-State of the MIAA (picked third in the pre-season conference coach's poll) in Kalamazoo, MI.

WMU 94
Tri-State 54

About what you'd expect from this sort of game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 01, 2007, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: DCHopeNut on October 26, 2007, 06:10:17 PM
Both Hope and Albion will be playing U of Detroit-Mercy a D-1 Horizon League team in pre-season exhibitions. Albion plays Nov. 2 and Hope plays Nov. 6.

So when did they go back to being Detroit Mercy? I know the school has been Detroit Mercy, but they were just known as the U. of Detroit in NCAA-land, except for a while when they tried to get Detroit Mercy to catch on. It sounds like a hospital, not a university!

PS - They have a fencing team!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 01, 2007, 11:05:15 PM
It's the product of a merger (annexation?) of U of D and Mercy College (a Catholic women's college that was facing tough economic times).  Formally, it is UDM; many people still refer to it just as Detroit.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: haterinthehouse on November 02, 2007, 11:53:57 PM
Nebraska Wesleyan played the University of Nebraska to a 30-30 halftime tie at the Bob Devaney Sports Center on Friday night. However, the Huskers took control in the second half and won 70-50 in the first varsity men's basketball meeting between the two schools since 1923. The Prairie Wolves were led by sophomore Ryan Thramer, who had a double-double, with 14 points and 10 rebounds
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 03, 2007, 09:00:37 AM
In case anyone missed it in "Notables (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables.php)," Rhode Island College nipped D1 Holy Cross 61-60 in an exhibition Thursday.  Story link (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables.php?item=1834).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on November 03, 2007, 10:24:55 AM
I know this is a DIII site, but it's pretty interesting to note that in an exhibition game last night, DII Grand Valley beat DI Michigan State (preseason #8) in double overtime
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ChicagoHopeNut on November 03, 2007, 12:54:34 PM
Albion 48
UDM (U Detroit-Mercy) 57

Albion played UDM close. Hope will travel to play UDM on Tuesday night and consider Albion kept it close I think Hope should be able to give UDM a run.

Sticking to Michigan college basketball the fact Grand Valley beat Michigan State last night really is incredible. What's with Michigan universities losing to lower tier teams? Can you say App. State?!? ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 03, 2007, 01:10:53 PM
Wow, I missed that about RIC. Either Holy Cross used it as an exhibition and played everyone a bit (they used 11 players and except for their point guard no one logged a lot of minutes), they took RIC too lightly, or HC isn't that good (and RIC IS good, we know that).

Last year, Iona went 2-28 in the regular season - only beating Rider and Delaware. Jeff Ruland lost his job over that season, which was surprising since he was an Iona grad and led them to the NCAA the year before. I bet that doesn't happen to Holy Cross.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FisherDynasty on November 03, 2007, 06:32:09 PM
St. John Fisher 59
Waterloo University 51 - D1 Canadian school

Waterloo is a D-I Canadian University - They play in the top Ontario University league which has teams that are competitive with mid-majors.  Carleton, who is in their league just played Louisville in Freedom Hall.  Yes they arnt D1 U.S. team but nevertheless considered D1 in Canada. Waterloo played and lost to Duquense U.S D1 earlier in the year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 03, 2007, 11:12:21 PM
Quote from: FisherDynasty on November 03, 2007, 06:32:09 PM
St. John Fisher 59
Waterloo University 51 - D1 Canadian school

Waterloo is a D-I Canadian University - They play in the top Ontario University league which has teams that are competitive with mid-majors.  Carleton, who is in their league just played Louisville in Freedom Hall.  Yes they arnt D1 U.S. team but nevertheless considered D1 in Canada. Waterloo played and lost to Duquense U.S D1 earlier in the year.

I don't mean to burst your bubble, but I checked the Wolfe Ratings (since he rates US and Canadian teams) and Waterloo was ranked 990. That's around where teams like Roger Williams and Albright are ranked.

http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/ratings.htm

The highest ranked Canadian team was Carleton, at 333, which is around where the dregs of D-1 (lots of SWAC and Northeast teams in that neighborhood) and decent D-2 teams are located.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FisherDynasty on November 03, 2007, 11:28:39 PM
Not bursting the bubble, Canadian teams are usually awful.  Everyyear one comes into the gym and gets beat by about 50 by Fisher. Just stating they were D1 and play a competitive schedule.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 04, 2007, 11:42:22 AM
Again, D1 Canadian = Mid D2 / High D3 / NAIA. No reason to expect Fisher not to win.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2007, 12:50:58 PM
November 15    Morehouse (D2)  95     Fisk  59

Not sure if Fisk is to make it into these listings  -  I see Pat has excluded them in the Southern Region, but I think they are still officially D3, though they only play several D3 games.   Also, with the Nov 15 date, this may be an exhibition game if Fisk is D3...   Anybody know for sure????
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 16, 2007, 01:03:29 PM
FISK is still a NCAA Division III school.  Pat (in his wisdom) has decided not to follow FISK  this year apparently because FISK is only playing 4 D3 games this season. It may not be worth his time nor effort.

That's Pat's perogative as well as it is FISK's  perogative to schedule opponents whom they choose, regardless of the 50% "rule". 

Thanks for the question...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2007, 02:03:17 PM
Wilburt  -  is it an official game for Fisk?  or an exhibition?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 16, 2007, 02:26:04 PM
Don't know, but my guess was it was an exhibition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 16, 2007, 02:29:55 PM
According to the Morehouse site, it was the season opener:

http://www.morehouse.edu/athletics/basketball/archives/001227.html
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2007, 02:47:02 PM
I believe however, that what can be a real game for a D1 or D2 team can still be an exhibition for the D3 team dependent on the date played  -
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 16, 2007, 02:58:10 PM
Ah, yeah. Makes sense, kinda...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2007, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 16, 2007, 01:03:29 PM
That's Pat's perogative as well as it is FISK's  perogative to schedule opponents whom they choose, regardless of the 50% "rule". 

Also the NCAA's prerogative to sanction schools that don't follow their rules.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 17, 2007, 02:27:11 PM
Additions and corrections are welcome.

Scores from 11/16

Albion 85, Rochester, MI (USCAA) 40
Belhaven (NAIA 1) 79, East Texas Baptist 68
Bethany Lutheran 100, Trinity International (NAIA 2) 93
Calvin 92, Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 65
Clarkson 69, Albany Pharmacy (other) 48
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 61, Hope International (NAIA 1) 58
Coast Guard 73, California Maritime (NAIA 2) 62
Crown 80, Moody Bible (NCCAA 2) 74
DePauw 89, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 66
Dubuque 75, St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA 2) 54
Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 87, Pacific 49
Hendrix 90, Rhema Bible (USCAA) 77
Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 80, Texas Lutheran 76
La Roche 76, Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 69
Lewis & Clark 75, Northwest (NAIA 2) 67
Linfield 81, Holy Names (NAIA 2) 79
Malone (NAIA 2) 85, Grove City 61
Manchester 79, Taylor-Fort Wayne (USCAA) 69
Mary Washington 97, Penn College (other) 31
Misericordia 73, Penn State-Hazleton (other) 50
Mississippi College 83, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 57
Mt. St. Mary 75, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 69
Neumann 79, Penn State-Delaware County (other) 72
North Central, IL 81, World Harvest Bible (other) 52
Northland 82, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 75
Northwestern State (D1) 93, University of the Ozarks 78
Occidental 71, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 63
Puget Sound 124, Corban College (NAIA 2) 95
St. Mary's, TX (D2) 95, Schreiner 46
St. Vincent 105, Penn State-Fayette (USCAA) 61
SUNYIT 108, SUNY-Canton (NAIA 2) 93
Texas-Permian Basin (D2) 108, Howard Payne 54
Thomas 91, Fisher (NAIA 2) 76
University of New England 102, Unity (USCAA) 35
Utica 99, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 56
Virginia Wesleyan 74, Newport News Apprentice (USCAA) 70
Warner Pacific (NAIA 2) 85, La Verne 69
Washington & Jefferson 70, Penn State-Dubois (USCAA) 56
Widener 67, Williamson Trade (USCAA) 64
William Penn (NAIA 2) 85, Fontbonne 67
Williamette 72, Albertson (NAIA 2) 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 17, 2007, 03:15:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2007, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 16, 2007, 01:03:29 PM
That's Pat's perogative as well as it is FISK's  perogative to schedule opponents whom they choose, regardless of the 50% "rule". 

Also the NCAA's prerogative to sanction schools that don't follow their rules.

I think the rule in the Division III bylaws states that schools must schedule 50% in-region to be eligible for the tournament.  So FISK chooses not to be "eligible" for the tournament?  What are you getting at Pat?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 17, 2007, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 17, 2007, 03:15:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2007, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 16, 2007, 01:03:29 PM
That's Pat's perogative as well as it is FISK's  perogative to schedule opponents whom they choose, regardless of the 50% "rule". 

Also the NCAA's prerogative to sanction schools that don't follow their rules.

I think the rule in the Division III bylaws states that schools must schedule 50% in-region to be eligible for the tournament.  So FISK chooses not to be "eligible" for the tournament?  What are you getting at Pat?


To me, that's a sanction. And a shame...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 17, 2007, 05:42:32 PM
11/16 - Wabash 96, Kentucky Christian 88 (NCCAA)


11/17 - Indiana Wesleyan 66, Wabash 62 (NAIA II)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 18, 2007, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: smedindy on November 17, 2007, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 17, 2007, 03:15:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2007, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 16, 2007, 01:03:29 PM
That's Pat's perogative as well as it is FISK's  perogative to schedule opponents whom they choose, regardless of the 50% "rule". 

Also the NCAA's prerogative to sanction schools that don't follow their rules.

I think the rule in the Division III bylaws states that schools must schedule 50% in-region to be eligible for the tournament.  So FISK chooses not to be "eligible" for the tournament?  What are you getting at Pat?


To me, that's a sanction. And a shame...

To you it may be a sanction, to the FISK  athletic department it may be called "free choice"!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 18, 2007, 06:35:50 PM
Scores from 11/17

Adrian 72, Cardinal Stritch (NAIA 2) 60
Ashford (NAIA 2) 75, Rockford 64
Azusa Pacific (NAIA 1) 79, Occidental 57
Briarcliffe (USCAA) 90, Lehman 86
Buena Vista 72, Augustana, SD (D2) 71
Cal Maritime (NAIA 2) 56, Maine Maritime 53
Central Missouri State (D2) 87, Monmouth 60
Colby 95, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 70
Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 82, Augsburg 75
Concordia-St. Paul (D2) 80, Macalester 65
Eastern Oregon (NAIA 2) 95, Williamette 88
Elms 90, Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 78
Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 71, Whitman 67
Fontbonne 100, Moody Bible (NCCAA 2) 63
Goucher 78, Maryland Bible (other) 73
Grand View (NAIA 2) 75, North Central, MN 41
Heidelberg 109, Tiffin (D2) 77
Hobart 97, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 70
Ithaca 100, Albany Pharmacy (other) 50
Jamestown, SD (NAIA 2) 87, Northwestern, MN 75
Kean 88, Penn College (other) 53
Linfield 81, Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 73
MacMurray 78, Marygrove (USCAA) 67
Malone (NAIA 2) 83, Geneva 70
Mayville State (NAIA 2) 85, Finlandia 72
McNeese State (D1) 65, Louisiana College 45
Millsaps 95, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 69
Missouri-Rolla (D2) 73, Blackburn 53
Muskingum 71, Northwestern Ohio (NAIA 2) 52
Newport News Apprentice (USCAA) 66, Rutgers-Newark 61
North Central, IL 99, Lindenwood (NAIA 2) 89 (OT)
Northwest, WA (NAIA 2) 89, Pacific 67
Ohio Northern 72, Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 67
Olivet 83, Andrews (USCAA) 52
Pacific Lutheran 79, Concordia-Portland (NAIA 2) 77(OT)
Penn State-Delaware County (other) 115, Bard 111
Penn State-Hazleton (other) 70, Marywood 63
Point Park (NAIA 2) 91, Alvernia 83
Rhodes 101, Rhema College, OK (USCAA) 95 (OT)
Scranton 80, Walsh, OH (NAIA 2) 73
Southern Virginia (USCAA) 101, Lynchburg 66
Southwest Minnesota State (D2) 83, Hamline 59
Sul Ross State 70, Texas-Permian Basin (D2) 51
Thiel 80, Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 52
Thomas 85, Unity (USCAA) 32
University of New England 87, Fisher (NAIA 2) 41
University of the Pacific (D1) 92, Lewis & Clark 47
UW-River Falls 73, Peru State (NAIA 2) 55
UW-Stout 81, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 63
Webber International (NAIA 2) 69, Birmingham-Southern 57
Wiley (NAIA 1) 92, East Texas Baptist 73
William Penn (NAIA 2) 65, Crown 38
Williamson Trade (USCAA) 57, Delaware Valley 44
Winona State (D2) 118, St. Mary's, MN 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 19, 2007, 10:22:08 AM
Scores from 11/18

UC Davis (D1) 71, UC Santa Cruz 49
Oswego State 84, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 66
Shawnee State (NAIA 2) 82, Muskingum 67
Yeshiva 71, Berkeley (other) 40
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 19, 2007, 07:07:27 PM
Totals through 11/18

D3 vs.

D1....0-4
D2....2-7
NAIA 1....2-4
NAIA 2....24-18
NCCAA 1....2-0
NCCAA 2....6-0
USCAA....19-3
Other....8-2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 19, 2007, 09:47:06 PM
UWSP 77  Northern Michigan (D2) 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 20, 2007, 11:31:19 AM
Scores from 11/19

Birmingham-Southern 93, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 63
Central 94, Faith Baptist (NCCAA 2) 53
Emmaus (NCCAA 2) 78, Maranatha Baptist 74
Franklin 82, Webber International (NAIA 2) 57
Maryland Bible (other) 68, Gallaudet 62 (OT)
University of the Ozarks 87, Henderson State (D2) 76
Trinity International (NAIA 2) 100, Lakeland 91 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 20, 2007, 12:59:11 PM
Congrats to BSC for their first win as a D-3 men's hoops school!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2007, 01:57:37 PM
Smed  -  not exactly an upset win though... ;D ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2007, 02:39:20 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 18, 2007, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: smedindy on November 17, 2007, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 17, 2007, 03:15:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2007, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 16, 2007, 01:03:29 PM
That's Pat's perogative as well as it is FISK's  perogative to schedule opponents whom they choose, regardless of the 50% "rule". 

Also the NCAA's prerogative to sanction schools that don't follow their rules.

I think the rule in the Division III bylaws states that schools must schedule 50% in-region to be eligible for the tournament.  So FISK chooses not to be "eligible" for the tournament?  What are you getting at Pat?


To me, that's a sanction. And a shame...

To you it may be a sanction, to the FISK  athletic department it may be called "free choice"!

The behavior of the AD on the board this summer makes one wonder if they even knew the rules. He didn't know the rules about playoff selection in the instance he griped about.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 20, 2007, 02:53:16 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2007, 02:39:20 PM
The behavior of the AD on the board this summer makes one wonder if they even knew the rules. He didn't know the rules about playoff selection in the instance he griped about.

Why don't you ask him instead of assuming or wondering? Or is it just something you like to harp upon?   

BTW Pat for what it is worth, D3 FISK beat D2 Lane this past Saturday 61-57 in Nashville! 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 20, 2007, 03:16:23 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 20, 2007, 01:57:37 PM
Smed  -  not exactly an upset win though... ;D ;D

You gotta start somewhere!

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2007, 02:04:24 AM
Quote from: wilburt on November 20, 2007, 02:53:16 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2007, 02:39:20 PM
The behavior of the AD on the board this summer makes one wonder if they even knew the rules. He didn't know the rules about playoff selection in the instance he griped about.

Why don't you ask him instead of assuming or wondering? Or is it just something you like to harp upon?   

BTW Pat for what it is worth, D3 FISK beat D2 Lane this past Saturday 61-57 in Nashville! 

I did. He didn't respond to my e-mail after his un-anonymous posts.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 21, 2007, 07:23:49 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2007, 02:04:24 AM
I did. He didn't respond to my e-mail after his un-anonymous posts.

1. Well take my word for it then.  They know.

2. BTW, I take issue with your d3hoops notation regarding FISK.  The notation I am talking about specifically states that "This school does not have a Division III program."  This surprises me coming from someone who prides himself on accuracy (particularly amongst journalists). That statement is either A) a reckless disregard for the truth or B) a boldface lie on your part.  Regardless of which it is, I demand a retraction of that statement. 

3.  Below is the d3hoops link I make reference to:

http://www.d3hoops.com/school_info.php?year=2008&team=mens&school=Fisk

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 21, 2007, 12:48:25 PM
Scores from 11/20

Allegheny 58, Penn State-New Kensington (USCAA) 57
Bluffton 89, Wright State-Lake (other) 70
Bridgewater, VA 94, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 87
Coe 78, Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 60
Doane (NAIA 2) 68, Nebraska Wesleyan 65
East Carolina (D1) 88, North Carolina Wesleyan 69
Eckerd (D2) 71, Franklin 66
Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 88, Pacific Lutheran 71
Geneva 71, Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 63
Grand Valley State (D2) 96, Kalamazoo 50
Grinnell 116, Waldorf (NAIA 2) 104
Holy Names (NAIA 2) 81, Whittier 80
Howard Payne 73, Southwest Assemblies of God (NAIA 1) 60
Louisiana State-Shreveport (NAIA 1) 114, East Texas Baptist 94
Lycoming 87, Penn College (other) 52
Mansfield State (D2) 85, Messiah 63
Marywood 73, Penn State-Scranton (other) 47
McKendree (NAIA 1) 85, Greenville 56
McNeese State (D1) 65, Texas-Tyler 49
Minnesota State-Moorhead (D2) 67, Concordia-Moorhead 55
Montclair State 81, Berkeley (other) 35
New Jersey City 84, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 73
Olivet Nazarene (NAIA 1) 97, Illinois Wesleyan 79
Penn State-Abington (other) 68, Rutgers-Camden 51
Portland State (D1) 93, Linfield 50
Puget Sound 97, Northwest, WA (NAIA 2) 82
St. Edward's (D2) 88, Concordia-Austin 69
Thiel 88, Penn State-Fayette (other) 65
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 106, Penn State-Harrisburg 97
Winona State (D2) 95, UW-Stout 68
UW-La Crosse 59, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2007, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: wilburt on November 21, 2007, 07:23:49 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2007, 02:04:24 AM
I did. He didn't respond to my e-mail after his un-anonymous posts.

1. Well take my word for it then.  They know.

2. BTW, I take issue with your d3hoops notation regarding FISK.  The notation I am talking about specifically states that "This school does not have a Division III program."  This surprises me coming from someone who prides himself on accuracy (particularly amongst journalists). That statement is either A) a reckless disregard for the truth or B) a boldface lie on your part.  Regardless of which it is, I demand a retraction of that statement. 

3.  Below is the d3hoops link I make reference to:

http://www.d3hoops.com/school_info.php?year=2008&team=mens&school=Fisk



Wilburt -- we choose not to recognize Fisk based on its schedule. That's all there is to say here. Your continued arguments should be made toward Fisk for failing to schedule Division III institutions.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on November 21, 2007, 02:50:00 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2007, 02:26:10 PM
Wilburt -- we choose not to recognize Fisk based on its schedule. That's all there is to say here. Your continued arguments should be made toward Fisk for failing to schedule Division III institutions.

1. Choosing not to recognize FISK on d3hoops and stating that FISK does not have a Division III program are entirely two different things Pat and you know that.  The former is your prerogative, the latter statement is a lie!   
Unless, of course, it is your prerogative to lie as well ???

2. My arguments are directed to you because you made the statement!

3. Intellectual dishonesty rules the day with you I see.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 21, 2007, 03:09:05 PM
I don't really want to step into something that has gone on entirely to long.  Maybe you could take it to the PM's.

However, in defense of D3hoops.com, I believe they treated Savanah Art and Design (SCAD) with the same non-d3 type schedule in a similar way, a few years ago.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 21, 2007, 03:39:22 PM
In fairness, they do treat Nebraska Wesleyan as a D-3 program. However, I think it's apples and oranges. NW plays most of its non-conference games against D-3 schools.

I can call myself something - that doesn't mean it's how I am perceived by others. Fisk is a member of Division III, yet their scheduling shows that they'd rather be D-2 or NAIA in basketball.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2007, 06:06:59 PM
Similarly to how we treat Menlo in basketball or Nebraska Wesleyan in football. They don't declare for the NCAA championship and, by dint of its schedule, Fisk has done the same.

Wilburt, bud, you should move on. I don't have the time -- or the inclination, based on your treatment of us or the Fisk athletic administration's treatment of us -- to recode the page specifically for Fisk right now at your demand.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2007, 12:56:03 PM
Just out of curiosity, was there a specific reason that Saint Vincent is included in the D3Hoops data base, but Geneva isn't?   On the surface, they seem to be in same situation as new members of the President's Conference and to be NCAA members....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2007, 02:35:53 PM
No, no reason. When I get back to a computer later I will see if it's on our end or Presto's end ... or both.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2007, 10:22:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2007, 02:35:53 PM
No, no reason. When I get back to a computer later I will see if it's on our end or Presto's end ... or both.

Turns out it's both. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2007, 09:15:28 AM
Well, I'll allow you ONE per season.... ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2007, 02:17:31 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2007, 12:56:03 PM
Just out of curiosity, was there a specific reason that Saint Vincent is included in the D3Hoops data base, but Geneva isn't?   On the surface, they seem to be in same situation as new members of the President's Conference and to be NCAA members....

I just added the following games to the scoreboard:

Geneva 106, Franciscan (other) 77 (11/16)
Malone (NAIA 2) 83, Geneva 70 (11/17)
Geneva 71, Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) (11/20)

The new totals will include these games.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2007, 02:26:46 PM
Scores from 11/21

Ferris State (D2) 47, Alma 43
Hillsdale (D2) 77, Albion 74 (OT)
IPFW (D1) 106, Manchester 57
Northwest, WA (NAIA 2) 63, George Fox 50
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2007, 02:32:04 PM
Totals through 11/21

D3 vs.

D1....0-8
D2....3-15
NAIA 1....3-7
NAIA 2....29-24
NCCAA 1....2-0
NCCAA 2....8-2
USCAA....22-3
Other....13-4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 23, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
RS - Is Kentucky Christian NCCAA 1 or 2?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2007, 05:19:23 PM
Quote from: smedindy on November 23, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
RS - Is Kentucky Christian NCCAA 1 or 2?

NCCAA Division II (http://www.thenccaa.org/division2.html)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2007, 05:58:47 PM
Can someone please answer the following : Are St. Joseph's (Brooklyn) and Franciscan (OH) both first-year D3 provisional members?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2007, 06:15:15 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2007, 05:58:47 PM
Can someone please answer the following : Are St. Joseph's (Brooklyn) and Franciscan (OH) both first-year D3 provisional members?
Status of provisionals. (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3955.msg661095#msg661095)

Pat Coleman posted this last January.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2007, 06:26:39 PM
Ralph: Thanks for the response. I'm going to make some changes to the totals now.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 24, 2007, 09:02:42 AM
Scores from 11/23

Aquinas (NAIA 2) 78, Hope 69 (OT)
Calvin 82, Cornerstone (NAIA 2) 77
Framingham State 82, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 66
Missouri Southern State (D2) 98, Maryville, MO 49
Shenandoah 78, Houston Baptist (D1) 75
Williamette 56, Southern Oregon (NAIA 2) 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 25, 2007, 11:11:33 AM
Scores from 11/24

Allegheny 103, Penn State-Dubois (other) 58
Anderson 70, Cincinnati Clermont (USCAA) 68
Aquinas (NAIA 2) 90, Calvin 88 (OT)
Biola (NAIA 1) 79, Redlands 55
Cleveland State (D1) 67, John Carroll 57
Concordia-St. Paul (D2) 75, UW-River Falls 71
DePauw 83, Marian, IN (NAIA 2) 72
Hope 87, Cornerstone (NAIA 2) 68
Lewis & Clark 77, Corban (NAIA 2) 70
Linfield 91, Concordia-Portland (NAIA 2) 79
Louisiana State-Shreveport (NAIA 1) 77, Texas-Tyler 65
Lubbock Christian (NAIA 1) 66, Sul Ross St. 51
Mass-Boston 68, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 64
Methodist 74, Newport News Apprentice (USCAA) 67
North Park 85, Cardinal Stritch (NAIA 2) 75
Northwest Nazarene (NAIA 2) 75, Pacific 69
Oregon Tech (NAIA 2) 74, Williamette 63
Pittsburg State (D2) 83, Maryville, MO 51
Puget Sound 91, Bemidji State (D2) 68
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 74, Knox 45
St. Ambrose (NAIA 2) 80, Monmouth 76
St. Thomas 83, Winona State (D2) 82 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: mattgrubb on November 25, 2007, 11:32:07 AM
Beating Winona State is a huge upset for D3 schools,  great job
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 26, 2007, 12:06:43 PM
Scores from 11/25

Bemidji State (D2) 69, Northland 59
Hanover 79, Shawnee State (NAIA 2) 62
Marietta 111, Penn State-Dubois (USCAA) 87
Newport News Apprentice (USCAA) 74, Averett 73
Olivet 90, Brescia (NAIA 1) 85
Robert Morris-Chicago (NAIA 1) 79, Monmouth 52
Transylvania 89, Marian, IN (NAIA 2) 81 (OT)
Southeast Louisiana (D1) 73, Millsaps 55
St. Ambrose (NAIA 2) 77, Knox 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 26, 2007, 12:20:30 PM
Totals through 11/25

D3 vs.

D1....1-10
D2....6-18
NAIA 1....4-11
NAIA 2....40-30
NCCAA 1....2-0
NCCAA 2....8-2
USCAA....25-5
Other....14-4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 27, 2007, 12:54:12 PM
Scores from 11/26

Austin 85, Dallas Christian (NCCAA 2) 72
University of Indianapolis (D2) 80, Franklin 74
Rutgers-Camden 61, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 48
Texas-Arlington (D1) 99, Schreiner 66
Washington & Jefferson 68, Penn State-Fayette (USCAA) 40
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on November 27, 2007, 02:20:42 PM
Interesting to note that the NAIA D II #1, MidAmerica Nazarene, defeated the NAIA DI #1, Oklahoma City...

http://www.mnu.edu/athletics/news.php?aid=377

Both are defending national champions in their respective divisions.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 27, 2007, 04:24:38 PM
Hmmm...it seems the entire college basketball landscape is moving closer and closer together. One day, every team will be .500.   :D

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 27, 2007, 07:09:00 PM
Quote from: smedindy on November 27, 2007, 04:24:38 PM
Hmmm...it seems the entire college basketball landscape is moving closer and closer together. One day, every team will be .500.   :D
Isn't that one of the Laws of Thermodynamics?   ??? 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 27, 2007, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 27, 2007, 07:09:00 PM
Quote from: smedindy on November 27, 2007, 04:24:38 PM
Hmmm...it seems the entire college basketball landscape is moving closer and closer together. One day, every team will be .500.   :D
Isn't that one of the Laws of Thermodynamics?   ??? 

Entropy only applies in a closed system.  As long as coaches can recruit overseas, they can still break out (unless, of course, the entire world is headed for .500).

But fear not, in d3 we have a 25 game limit, so half the teams will still be over .500 at 13-12. :P
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 27, 2007, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on November 27, 2007, 02:20:42 PM
Interesting to note that the NAIA D II #1, MidAmerica Nazarene, defeated the NAIA DI #1, Oklahoma City...

http://www.mnu.edu/athletics/news.php?aid=377

Both are defending national champions in their respective divisions.

MidAmerica is down in my neck of the woods.  Their championship last season was entirely unexpected.  The coach and the program were building up for this season and next, so they should be pretty good.  I know they played Stevens Point last year, any word on d3s on the schedule this year?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 27, 2007, 10:38:26 PM

Nevermind, I checked.  They don't have any d3s on the schedule this season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 28, 2007, 09:55:03 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 27, 2007, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on November 27, 2007, 02:20:42 PM
Interesting to note that the NAIA D II #1, MidAmerica Nazarene, defeated the NAIA DI #1, Oklahoma City...

http://www.mnu.edu/athletics/news.php?aid=377

Both are defending national champions in their respective divisions.

MidAmerica is down in my neck of the woods.  Their championship last season was entirely unexpected.  The coach and the program were building up for this season and next, so they should be pretty good.  I know they played Stevens Point last year, any word on d3s on the schedule this year?

Actually, MNU played UWSP two years ago.  I know that Old School was at the game (it was at a tournament at Dubuque, IA(?)) and so he saw them, though it was two years ago.  I'm pretty sure they made it to Kansas City two seasons ago too, though their record wasn't as sparkling as it was last year (around .500 if my memory serves me correctly).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 29, 2007, 11:31:44 AM
Scores from 11/27

Aquinas (NAIA 2) 72, Alma 49
Bemidji St. (D2) 76, UW-Superior 71
Centenary 81, Berkeley (other) 70
Centre 81, Berea (NAIA 2) 67
Coe 61, Gramd View (NAIA 2) 50
Concordia-Austin 86, Huston-Tillotson (NAIA 1) 84
Concordia, WI 75, Trinity International (NAIA 2) 65
Covenant 81 (NAIA 2) 81, LaGrange 73
Hendrix 91, Central Baptist (NCCAA 1) 79
Huntingdon 76, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 73
Maine Maritime 82, Unity (USCAA) 44
Mayville State (NAIA 2) 71, Minnesota-Morris 68
North Carolina Wesleyan 128, Roanoke Bible (other) 39
North Central, MN 72, Pillsbury Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 65
Pacific 85, Northwest Christian (USCAA) 80 (OT)
Regis (D2) 84, Colorado College 56
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 93, MacMurray 75
Valley City State (NAIA 2) 77, Presentation 58
Warner Pacific (NAIA 2) 104, Linfield 92
Wheeling Jesuit (D2) 81, Bethany 78
Wiley (NAIA 1) 96, Rust 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 29, 2007, 01:18:21 PM
Scores from 11/28

Albion 75, Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 56
Bethany 93, Ohio-Eastern (other) 75
Carthage 79, East-West (other) 56
Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 78, Olivet 61
Edinboro (D2) 61, Allegheny 55
Grace (NAIA 2) 87, Manchester 62
Hesser (USCAA) 106, Lyndon State 86
Incarnate Word (D2) 102, Texas Lutheran 70
Marywood 76, Davis (other) 64
Nebraska Wesleyan 68, Dana (NAIA 2) 55
Oneonta State 84, St. Joseph's, VT (NAIA 2) 73
Skidmore 73, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 72 (OT)
Thiel 87, Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 30, 2007, 05:38:47 PM
Totals* through 11/28

D3 vs.

D1....1-11
D2....6-24
NAIA 1....5-11
NAIA 2....47-37
NCCAA 1.....3-0
NCCAA 2....12-2
USCAA....29-7
Other....19-4

*Missing score: Wiley @ Rust (11/27)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 30, 2007, 06:01:06 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on November 30, 2007, 05:38:47 PM
*Missing score: Wiley @ Rust (11/27)

When it comes to score reporting, you can't spell 'frustration' without RUST.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2007, 11:47:36 AM
Scores from 11/29

Belhaven (NAIA 1) 71, Rust 47
Blackburn 74, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 67
Chapman 58, Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 45
Crown 84, Providence, CANADA (other) 57
Maranatha Baptist 99, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 90
Minnesota Duluth (D2) 74, Northland 41
Nyack (D2) 73, Baptist Bible 60
Pomona-Pitzer 69, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 57
Sam Houston (D1) 79, Hardin-Simmons 41
Westminster, MO 75, Manhattan Christian (NCCAA 2) 50
Whitworth 90, Southwestern, AZ (NCCAA 2) 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2007, 11:52:40 AM
Scores from 11/30

Cardinal Stritch (NAIA 2) 83, Martin Luther 76
Davenport (NAIA 2) 75, Northwestern, MN 74
Greenville 80, Logan Chiropractic (other) 75
Husson 93, Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 60
Incarnate Word (D2) 79, Schreiner 71
Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 80, Thomas 66
Maranatha Baptist 64, Great Lakes Christian (NCCAA 2) 45
North Central, MN 76, Providence, CANADA (other) 45
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2007, 01:29:36 PM
Totals* through 11/30

D3 vs.

D1....1-12
D2....6-27
NAIA 1....5-12
NAIA 2....49-40
NCCAA 1....3-0
NCCAA 2....16-2
USCAA....31-7
Other....22-4

*Missing score: Wiley @ Rust (11/27)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2007, 07:52:52 PM
Scores from 12/1

Cedarville (NAIA 2) 65, Wooster 61
Crown 87, Trinity Bible (NCCAA 2) 68
Davis & Elkins (D2) 82, Ferrum 66
Greenville 68, Concordia, MO (other) 63
Maine-Farmington 89, Fisher (NAIA 2) 62
Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 82, Maine Maritime 73
Maranatha Baptist 77, Moody Bible (NCCAA 2) 55
Minnesota Duluth (D2) 81, St. Scholastica 70
Minnesota-Morris 83, Jamestown, SD (NAIA 2) 78
Northwestern, MN 90, Indiana-Northwest (NAIA 2) 61
South Dakota Tech (NAIA 2) 82, Presentation 72
Thomas 85, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 80
Tri State 63, Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 53
Whitman 81, Great Falls (NAIA 1) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2007, 12:33:24 PM
Scores from 12/2

Briar Cliff (NAIA 2) 62, Nebraska Wesleyan 54
Elms 86, Fisher (NAIA 2) 64
Lewis and Clark 95, Walla Walla (USCAA) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2007, 12:48:32 PM
Totals through 12/2

D3 vs.

D1....1-12
D2....6-29
NAIA 1....6-13
NAIA 2....55-44
NCCAA 1....3-0
NCCAA 2....18-2
USCAA....32-7
Other....23-4

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 03, 2007, 01:01:14 PM
FOUND IT!! On the Red River Conference Site:

http://www.redriverconference.com/m-basketball/standings.htm

November 27
Concordia-Austin 84, Huston-Tillotson 81
Southern Methodist (Texas) 93, Paul Quinn 77
Wiley 96, Rust (Miss.) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2007, 01:58:46 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 03, 2007, 01:01:14 PM
FOUND IT!! On the Red River Conference Site:

http://www.redriverconference.com/m-basketball/standings.htm

November 27
Concordia-Austin 84, Huston-Tillotson 81
Southern Methodist (Texas) 93, Paul Quinn 77
Wiley 96, Rust (Miss.) 67

Smed: Thanks. I added the score and changed the totals. As far as I can tell, no scores are missing.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 04, 2007, 10:01:09 AM
Scores from 12/3

Concordia-St. Paul (D2) 92, North Central, MN 43
Simpson 56, Grand View (NAIA 2) 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on December 04, 2007, 11:06:03 PM
12-4   Maryville TN D3 (GSAC) 87   Carson-Newman D2  80
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 05, 2007, 01:30:58 PM
Scores from 12/4

Biola (NAIA 1) 59, Whittier 45
Brockport State 91, Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 77
Cedarville (NAIA 2) 73, Wittenberg 58
George Fox 84, Corban (NAIA 2) 65
Howard Payne 65, Southwestern Assemblies of God (NAIA 1) 54
LaGrange 90, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 88
Linfield 76, Concordia-Portland (NAIA 2) 64
Madonna (NAIA 2) 76, Alma 66
Rhodes 90, Free Will Baptist (NCCAA 2) 59
Texas A&M International (D2) 88, Sul Ross State 77
Sam Houston State (D1) 82, Texas Lutheran 48
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on December 06, 2007, 08:38:10 PM
Also on 12/4

Aquinas (NAIA II) 78, Calvin 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 08, 2007, 12:32:41 AM
Scores from 12/5

Augustana 85, St. Ambrose (NAIA 2) 68
Averett 76, Newport News Apprentice (USCAA) 70
Cornell 82, Mt. Mercy (NAIA 2) 81
Elizabethtown 77, Millersville (D2) 72
Finlandia 75, Northern Michigan (D2) 58
Green Mountain 80, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 43
Greenville 84, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 54
Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 92, Maine-Presque Isle 80
Minnesota State Mankato (D2) 86, Bethany Lutheran 44
Nebraska Wesleyan 64, Concordia-Nebraska (NAIA 2) 49
Portland State (D1) 61, Lewis and Clark 60
St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 79, Johnson State 77
St. Martin's (D2) 92, Pacific Lutheran 86
Trinity International (NAIA 2) 82, Carthage 64
Wheaton, IL 66, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 08, 2007, 12:37:24 AM
Scores from 12/6

Lakeland 82, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 57
Mississippi College 69, Wesley, MS (NCCAA 2) 65
Mount St. Mary 91, Albany Pharmacy (other) 58
Redlands 75, West Coast Baptist (USCAA) 59
Shenandoah 76, Shippensburg (D2) 68
Sienna Heights (NAIA 2) 72, Adrian 66
SUNYIT 89, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 67
Viterbo (NAIA 2) 67, Martin Luther 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 08, 2007, 11:44:36 AM
Totals through 12/6

D3 vs.

D1....1-14
D2....10-33
NAIA 1....8-14
NAIA 2....64-52
NCCAA 1....3-0
NCCAA 2....22-2
USCAA....34-7
Other....24-4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 08, 2007, 12:41:46 PM
Scores from 12/7

Hope 100, Marygrove (USCAA) 52
Kenyon 78, Ohio Christian (NCCAA 2) 65
Millsaps 78, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 66
North Park 83, Judson (NAIA 2) 66
Pacific Lutheran 63, Northwest, WA (NAIA 2) 60
Rowan 87, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 82
Widener 89, Penn State-Delaware County (other) 55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 09, 2007, 10:26:21 PM
Scores from 12/8

Albany Pharmacy (other) 72, Polytechnic 61
Buena Vista 67, Grand View (NAIA 2) 60
Cascade (NAIA 2) 68, Pacific 66
Concordia-Irvine (NAIA 1) 85, Redlands 68
Concordia-Portland (NAIA 2) 69, Williamette 55
Davenport (NAIA 2) 72, Tri-State 54
Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 88, Whitman 73
George Fox 65, Northwest, WA (NAIA 2)  52
Hope 68, Aquinas (NAIA 2) 59
Kutztown (D2) 81, Penn State-Berks 49
Lamar (D1) 117, Louisiana College 67
Luther 60, Iowa Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 58
UMBC (D1) 82, Goucher 37
Master's (NAIA 1) 71, Whittier 67
Mercer (D1) 76, Sewanee 62
Minnesota State-Mankato (D2) 91, St. Mary's, MN 57
Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 80, Dubuque 63
Mount Vernon Nazarene (NAIA 2) 80, Kenyon 68
Newport News Apprentice (USCAA) 76, Virginia Wesleyan 75
Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) 85, La Verne 62
Puget Sound 121, Cal State Stanislaus (D2) 101
Rowan 86, Penn State-Delaware County (other) 67
Shippensburg (D2) 67, Neumann 57
St. Cloud State (D2) 82, St. John's 56
Wabash 60, Marian, IN (NAIA 2) 57 (OT)
Webster 91, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 67
Wesleyan 73, Fisher (NAIA 2) 66
Western State (D2) 77, Colorado College 68
Widener 92, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 82
Wiley (NAIA 1) 67, Rust 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2007, 11:33:12 AM
Scores from 12/9

Christopher Newport 100, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 67
Lyndon State 83, Paul Smith's (NCCAA 2) 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2007, 01:40:26 PM
Totals through 12/9

D3 vs.

D1....1-17
D2....12-38
NAIA 1....8-18
NAIA 2....71-58
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....27-2
USCAA....35-8
Other....26-5
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2007, 02:06:44 PM
Rhodes, My data base shows D3 with 14 wins over D2, as compared to your 11.   I imagine one difference is Fisk, which I have listed as a D3, as does the NCAA.org site, (Fisk has a win over D2 Lane).  The other is likely Chestnut Hill, whose own site lists as a D2 school, though the NCAA.org site lists as a D3.  They have lost to D3's Immaculata and Arcadia, but otherwise are playing a complete D2 schedule in the CACC conference.  What's your thinking on the status of the two schools?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2007, 03:03:21 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 10, 2007, 02:06:44 PM
Rhodes, My data base shows D3 with 14 wins over D2, as compared to your 11.   I imagine one difference is Fisk, which I have listed as a D3, as does the NCAA.org site, (Fisk has a win over D2 Lane).  The other is likely Chestnut Hill, whose own site lists as a D2 school, though the NCAA.org site lists as a D3.  They have lost to D3's Immaculata and Arcadia, but otherwise are playing a complete D2 schedule in the CACC conference.  What's your thinking on the status of the two schools?
I'm claissifying both teams as non-D3. If I were including Fisk as D3 then the total wins vs. D2 would be 12. What D3 wins over D2 teams do you have that differ from my list?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 10, 2007, 03:09:57 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2007, 03:03:21 PM
I'm claissifying both teams as non-D3. If I were including Fisk as D3 then the total wins vs. D2 would be 12. What D3 wins over D2 teams do you have that differ from my list?
I think I hear Wilburt coming down the hall...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 10, 2007, 03:48:32 PM
I agree with the non-D3 status for both of 'em.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2007, 05:11:43 PM
If Chesnut Hill is D2, thats 2 winsover them (Immaculata and Arcadia) plus Finlandia over Northern Michigan, E town over Millersville, Hberg over Tiffin, Puget over cal state, Buena over Augie d2, Stevens point over N Mich, St Thomas over winona, Sul Ross over Texas Permian, Ozarks over Henderson, Shenandoah over Shippensburg, and Maryville Tn over Carson Newman 

That would be 13, + Fisk over Lane would be 14.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2007, 06:55:39 PM
I actually had only 10 wins over D2 teams, not 11, because I misclassified Tiffin as NAIA 2. So the new D2 total is now 11. If Fisk and Chestnut Hill are taken out of the picture, we have the same games and the same totals.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2007, 07:57:10 PM
Good - glad to help you Rhodes  -  you have helped me numerous times!!!  Your work is appreciated.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on December 11, 2007, 08:25:56 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 10, 2007, 03:09:57 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2007, 03:03:21 PM
I'm claissifying both teams as non-D3. If I were including Fisk as D3 then the total wins vs. D2 would be 12. What D3 wins over D2 teams do you have that differ from my list?
I think I hear Wilburt coming down the hall...

You are correct!  Wilburt has come from down the hall.  D3 Fisk has a win over D2 Lane.  Now what you guys do with that information is up to you. 

The NCAA recognizes Fisk as a Division III member regardless of their tournament elibigibility. So at this point that's all that matters since the NCAA has the final word on that issue.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 11, 2007, 01:08:40 PM
But the NCAA has schools classified in other divisions even though they are transitioning up or down.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on December 11, 2007, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2007, 01:40:26 PM
Totals through 12/9

D3 vs.

D1....1-17
D2....11-38
NAIA 1....8-18
NAIA 2....71-58
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....27-2
USCAA....35-8
Other....26-5

Puget Sound owns 2 of the 11 wins against the D2...not bad!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 11, 2007, 02:13:10 PM
uh oh  Rhodes, the Log man just pointed out an error that we both may have - I only had the Puget win over Cal State - their win over Bemidji had defaulted to D3 because I misspelled it  -  that would be another win over D2, or 15 on my sheet, 12 on yours.......

Sorry to 'nitpick'....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wilburt on December 11, 2007, 02:32:46 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 10, 2007, 03:48:32 PM
I agree with the non-D3 status for both of 'em.

Thank you Myles Brand Jr. for your opinion.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 11, 2007, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 11, 2007, 02:13:10 PM
uh oh  Rhodes, the Log man just pointed out an error that we both may have - I only had the Puget win over Cal State - their win over Bemidji had defaulted to D3 because I misspelled it  -  that would be another win over D2, or 15 on my sheet, 12 on yours.......

Sorry to 'nitpick'....

I just went over the scores again. I have 12 D3 wins vs. D2 foes. I listed 11 in the totals because I didn't include Stevens Point's win over Northern Michigan, which was listed by PointSpecial. I'll change the total now to 12.

Hopefully this puts the matter to rest. Although I doubt it.  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 12, 2007, 11:12:02 AM
Scores from 12/10

East-West (other) 66, Carthage 63
Mount St. Mary 88, Berkeley (other) 46
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 103, Principia 80
UW-Stevens Point 91, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 83
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 12, 2007, 11:15:11 AM
Scores from 12/11

Carthage 70, Olivet Nazarene (NAIA 1) 66
Michigan Tech (D2) 57, UW-Stout 54
Northwood (D2) 81, Kalamazoo 64
Skidmore 98, Albany Pharmacy (other) 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Knightstalker on December 12, 2007, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 12, 2007, 11:12:02 AM
Scores from 12/10

East-West (other) 66, Carthage 63
Mount St. Mary 88, Berkeley (other) 46
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 103, Principia 80
UW-Stevens Point 91, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 83

Also 12/10  NJCU 72 St. Joes Brooklyn (USCAA) 66.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 12, 2007, 12:30:28 PM
St. Joe's Brooklyn is one of those that are soon moving to D-3, right?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Knightstalker on December 12, 2007, 12:58:40 PM
It appears that they are D-III with some sports but their website still lists the mens basketball team as USCAA and in the HVAC.  (Love that Heating Ventilation and Air Conditioning conference.)  That is what I was basing it on.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 12, 2007, 01:49:33 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 12, 2007, 12:30:28 PM
St. Joe's Brooklyn is one of those that are soon moving to D-3, right?

Quote from: Knightstalker on December 12, 2007, 12:58:40 PM
It appears that they are D-III with some sports but their website still lists the mens basketball team as USCAA and in the HVAC.  (Love that Heating Ventilation and Air Conditioning conference.)  That is what I was basing it on.

I have St. Joe's-Brooklyn classified as D3. I believe they're a first-year D3 provisional member.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 12, 2007, 02:09:41 PM
Right. There was a great huzzah in the air when I found their schedule.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Knightstalker on December 12, 2007, 04:06:58 PM
So are they D3, USCAA or something in between.  They are scheduled for the D3 independents tournament at the end of the season but also have the USCAA tournament listed on the schedule.  Kind of like a D3 step child right now.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 13, 2007, 12:44:45 PM
Scores from 12/12

Centre 86, Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 69
Fontbonne 89, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 76
Incarnate Word (D2) 81, Mary Hardin-Baylor 69
Penn State-Harrisburg 85, Penn State-Abington (other) 75 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 13, 2007, 01:06:49 PM
Totals through 12/12

D3 vs.

D1....1-17
D2....12-41
NAIA 1....9-18
NAIA 2....72-58
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....29-2
USCAA....37-9
Other....29-6
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2007, 01:40:37 PM
Rhodes, a correction you might want to consider is to see where Lincoln Christian is in your data  -  I notice their games are not in your scores as a non NCAA team when they play SLIAC (D3) teams - They have dropped out of the SLIAC and the NCAA this year and should be considered NCCAA D2.  Not sure if you considered them as NCAA teams earlier in the year when they played other NCCAA teams....   Note- they are playing a full schedule of 18 games against SLIAC teams, because their decision came so late that everyone elected not to find new opponents. They are not SLIAC or NCAA games, so it will have a big impact on  your numbers
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 13, 2007, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 13, 2007, 01:40:37 PM
Rhodes, a correction you might want to consider is to see where Lincoln Christian is in your data  -  I notice their games are not in your scores as a non NCAA team when they play SLIAC (D3) teams - They have dropped out of the SLIAC and the NCAA this year and should be considered NCCAA D2.  Not sure if you considered them as NCAA teams earlier in the year when they played other NCCAA teams....   Note- they are playing a full schedule of 18 games against SLIAC teams, because their decision came so late that everyone elected not to find new opponents. They are not SLIAC or NCAA games, so it will have a big impact on  your numbers

Thanks for the input. I added Greenville vs. LC and Webster vs. LC to the scores, and I changed the totals. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 14, 2007, 03:50:33 PM
Scores from 12/13

Multnomah Bible (NCCAA 2) 68, Pacific 63
Waynesburg 86, Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 15, 2007, 09:09:31 AM
Scores from 12/14

Albion 107, Marygrove (USCAA) 44
Bethel, TN (NAIA 1) 97, Rust 81
Briarcliffe (USCAA) 81, Montclair State 78 (OT)
Corban (NAIA 2) 82, Whitman 73
Faith Baptist (NCCAA 2) 83, Cornell 80
IU-Southeast (NAIA 2) 69, Kalamazoo 61
St. Vincent 73, Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 63
Worecester State 67, Houghton (NAIA 2) 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 15, 2007, 10:38:01 AM
Hey, can we ask teams to stop MOVING divisions so Rhodes can get caught up on who is where??  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 16, 2007, 08:44:29 PM
Scores from 12/15

Benedictine, KS (NAIA 2) 88, Buena Vista 82
Birmingham Southern 96, Southeastern (NCCAA 2) 76
Calvin 80, Trinity Christian (NAIA 2) 47
Dartmouth (D1) 88, Daniel Webster 52
Kalamazoo 66, Davenport (NAIA 2) 60
La Verne 78, Pacific Union (NAIA 2) 75
Madonna (NAIA 2) 86, Albion 80
Maine-Augusta (NAIA 2) 90, Maine-Presque Isle 61
Minnesota State-Moorhead (D2) 69, Concordia-Moorhead 47
Northern Iowa (D1) 99, Wartburg 48
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 92, North Park 75
Union, KY (NAIA 2) 76, St. Vincent 68
Wooster 89, Walsh (NAIA 2) 88
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: CityD3 on December 17, 2007, 02:20:17 AM
Quote from: Knightstalker on December 12, 2007, 04:06:58 PM
So are they D3, USCAA or something in between.  They are scheduled for the D3 independents tournament at the end of the season but also have the USCAA tournament listed on the schedule.  Kind of like a D3 step child right now.
i think they are d3 provisional, but they are still affiliated with the USCAA until they officially get accepted into the NCAA...what's up wit the USCAA??I look at some of the teams' schedules and  they have some NCAA division II and division I on them.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on December 17, 2007, 03:47:11 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 14, 2007, 03:50:33 PM
Scores from 12/13

Multnomah Bible (NCCAA 2) 68, Pacific 63


As an NWC supporter that score really depresses me.  And Pac started the season with so much hype.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 17, 2007, 03:10:52 PM
The USCAA schools will play pert near anyone to get games, I think.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 17, 2007, 05:23:16 PM
Scores from 12/16

Minnesota State-Moorhead (D2) 93, Presentation 64
Whitman 81, Montana Tech (NAIA 1) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2007, 09:29:31 AM
Scores from 12/17

Lawrence 73, Nova Southeastern (D2) 60
Millsaps 75, Belhaven (NAIA 1) 70
Pacific Lutheran 65, Simon Fraser (other) 62
Southwestern 72, Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 66
St. Norbert 59, Northern Michigan (D2) 50 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2007, 09:41:33 AM
Totals through 12/17

D3 vs.

D1....1-19
D2....14-43
NAIA 1....11-19
NAIA 2....79-64
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....30-4
USCAA....39-11
Other....30-6
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on December 18, 2007, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2007, 09:41:33 AM
Totals through 12/17

D3 vs.

D1....1-19
D2....14-43
NAIA 1....11-19
NAIA 2....79-64
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....30-4
USCAA....39-11
Other....30-6

So that would make the overall D3 record against outside competition
                208-166  for a winning percentage of 56%
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 18, 2007, 11:57:16 PM
Right, but picking on the NCCCA and USCAA isn't as fun. I really look for games against NAIA 1 and 2.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2007, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: smedindy on December 18, 2007, 11:57:16 PM
Right, but picking on the NCCCA and USCAA isn't as fun. I really look for games against NAIA 1 and 2.

Without question the NAIA offers the most evenly matched competition for D3. NAIA 1 is a bit stronger than D3 and NAIA 2 is more or less equal. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2007, 12:28:32 PM
Scores from 12/18

Findlay (D2) 76, Lake Erie 66
Lawrence 69, Johnson & Wales, FL (NAIA 2) 57
Loras 95, Ashford (NAIA 2) 74
Michigan Tech (D2) 73, Finlandia 37
Mount Saint Jospeh 83, Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 68
Newport News Apprentice (USCAA) 73, Wentworth Tech 67
Occidental 77, Pacific Union (NAIA 2) 40
Trinity, TX 59, Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 47
UW-Whitewater 95, Cardinal Stritch (NAIA 2) 50
William Jessup (NAIA 2) 77, UC Santa Cruz 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2007, 11:13:31 PM
Scores from 12/19

Chapman 69, Pacific Union (NAIA 2) 50
Coe 79, Regis, CO (D2) 67
Eastern 90, Montana Tech (NAIA 1) 88
Louisiana-Monroe (D1) 86, Louisiana College 51
Newport News Apprentice (USCAA) 60, Goucher 59
St. Martin's (D2) 72, George Fox 69
Walsh (NAIA 2) 83, Westminster, MO 52
Winston-Salem (D1) 61, Ferrum 55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 21, 2007, 11:44:25 AM
Scores from 12/20

Fresno Pacific (NAIA 1) 66, Westminster, MO 46
Robert Morris-Chicago (NAIA 1) 91, Monmouth 53
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 93, Blackburn 59
Walsh (NAIA 2) 98, Eastern 89
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pioneer Hoops Fan on December 21, 2007, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2007, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: smedindy on December 18, 2007, 11:57:16 PM
Right, but picking on the NCCCA and USCAA isn't as fun. I really look for games against NAIA 1 and 2.

Without question the NAIA offers the most evenly matched competition for D3. NAIA 1 is a bit stronger than D3 and NAIA 2 is more or less equal. 

I'm really interested to see how UW-Platteville is going to stack up against Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) next week.  Looking at their roster and their results thus far, we should match up pretty well.  Our guards will be a little smaller than theirs, but our Frontline as a whole should be a little bigger.  Always good when you can get away for a trip and play good competition. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 21, 2007, 12:05:34 PM
Totals through 12/20

D3 vs.

D1....1-21
D2....15-46
NAIA 1....12-21
NAIA 2....86-67
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....30-4
USCAA....39-14
Other....30-6
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 21, 2007, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: Pioneer Hoops Fan on December 21, 2007, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2007, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: smedindy on December 18, 2007, 11:57:16 PM
Right, but picking on the NCCCA and USCAA isn't as fun. I really look for games against NAIA 1 and 2.

Without question the NAIA offers the most evenly matched competition for D3. NAIA 1 is a bit stronger than D3 and NAIA 2 is more or less equal. 

I'm really interested to see how UW-Platteville is going to stack up against Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) next week.  Looking at their roster and their results thus far, we should match up pretty well.  Our guards will be a little smaller than theirs, but our Frontline as a whole should be a little bigger.  Always good when you can get away for a trip and play good competition. 

Quote from: OxyBob on December 21, 2007, 12:04:34 PM
Quote from: Pioneer Hoops Fan on December 21, 2007, 11:47:55 AM
I'm really interested to see how UW-Platteville is going to stack up against Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) next week.  

I have followed the GSAC for a long time. It's a real tough basketball conference. Anytime a D-III team can beat one of the top GSAC teams like Concordia, Point Loma, or Cal Baptist it's a big win. The Sea Lions are formidable. Good luck to Platteville.

OxyBob

The GSAC has three teams in the latest NAIA 1 Top 25 Poll (12/12):

Concordia #3
Point Loma Nazarene #10
Cal Baptist #15

Plus Azusa Pacific, Vanguard and The Master's also received votes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pioneer Hoops Fan on December 21, 2007, 01:50:16 PM


As I said, good luck to Platteville.

OxyBob
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Just wish I could be in Sunny Southern California to watch the battle...instead I'm stuck here in a foot of snow, with another 6 inches coming tomorrow.

Happy Holidays to all and travel safely
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on December 21, 2007, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: Pioneer Hoops Fan on December 21, 2007, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2007, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: smedindy on December 18, 2007, 11:57:16 PM
Right, but picking on the NCCCA and USCAA isn't as fun. I really look for games against NAIA 1 and 2.

Without question the NAIA offers the most evenly matched competition for D3. NAIA 1 is a bit stronger than D3 and NAIA 2 is more or less equal. 

I'm really interested to see how UW-Platteville is going to stack up against Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) next week.  Looking at their roster and their results thus far, we should match up pretty well.  Our guards will be a little smaller than theirs, but our Frontline as a whole should be a little bigger.  Always good when you can get away for a trip and play good competition. 

On Nov. 17, NAIA DI Olivet Nazarene lost in OT at Point Loma Nazarene...

http://web.olivet.edu/sports/Basketball/men/games/2007/mbb111707.htm

I'm pretty familiar with ONU as Illinois Wesleyan has played them every year for the last 15 seasons, including this year when the Tigers pasted rebuilding IWU (picked 7th in the CCIW) 97-79.  Olivet Nazarene would be in the mix to win the CCIW this year.  They'd probably finish 2nd, but they'd be in the middle of the title race.  A 2nd place CCIW team is about equal to a 2nd place WIAC team, I'd say.

So if Point Loma Nazarene and ONU are about even, I'm thinking Point Loma is about equal to a WIAC #2 team - maybe like UW-Whitewater.  It's a game Platteville can win, but on the road they'll certainly be an underdog. (It wouldn't surprise me if Point Loma is as good or better than UW-Stevens Point.)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 21, 2007, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on December 21, 2007, 12:04:34 PM
The Sea Lions are formidable.

I wonder how many times this statemt has been made.... this might be the first!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pioneer Hoops Fan on December 21, 2007, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 21, 2007, 02:19:24 PM

On Nov. 17, NAIA DI Olivet Nazarene lost in OT at Point Loma Nazarene...

http://web.olivet.edu/sports/Basketball/men/games/2007/mbb111707.htm

I'm pretty familiar with ONU as Illinois Wesleyan has played them every year for the last 15 seasons, including this year when the Tigers pasted rebuilding IWU (picked 7th in the CCIW) 97-79.  Olivet Nazarene would be in the mix to win the CCIW this year.  They'd probably finish 2nd, but they'd be in the middle of the title race.  A 2nd place CCIW team is about equal to a 2nd place WIAC team, I'd say.

So if Point Loma Nazarene and ONU are about even, I'm thinking Point Loma is about equal to a WIAC #2 team - maybe like UW-Whitewater.  It's a game Platteville can win, but on the road they'll certainly be an underdog. (It wouldn't surprise me if Point Loma is as good or better than UW-Stevens Point.)

Sounds like it could be a game anyway.  I'm just wondering how the Pioneers will react to the small layoff, travel, and the scenery.  Hopefully they can be focused enough to compete and make it a game.  They play George Fox while they're out there too, even though they're D3.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2007, 07:45:44 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 21, 2007, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on December 21, 2007, 12:04:34 PM
The Sea Lions are formidable.

I wonder how many times this statemt has been made.... this might be the first!

Not like it's "The Banana Slugs are formidable" :)

I think the top two teams in the GSAC, as a general rule, should be considered basically unbeatable by D-III standards, at least in their time zone. Basing that on Calvin's trip to Azusa Pacific and Biola the year they won the national title. Those were the only two losses Calvin had all season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: kiltedbryan on December 21, 2007, 09:56:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2007, 07:45:44 PM
I think the top two teams in the GSAC, as a general rule, should be considered basically unbeatable by D-III standards, at least in their time zone. Basing that on Calvin's trip to Azusa Pacific and Biola the year they won the national title. Those were the only two losses Calvin had all season.

Cal. Baptist handed last year's Final Four bound Wooster team one of its three regular season losses, too. Just another example of the strength of GSAC teams against top D-III competition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 09:59:28 AM
Without question, the GSAC is a great league.  I've been to Westmont College's Tom Byron Classic twice now with IWU, and even middle-of-the-pack Westmont teams are hard to deal with.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: OxyBob on December 22, 2007, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 09:59:28 AM
Without question, the GSAC is a great league.  I've been to Westmont College's Tom Byron Classic twice now with IWU, and even middle-of-the-pack Westmont teams are hard to deal with.

Too bad you're already going to be busy that night watching IWU get beat by Oxy.

OxyBob

Bulletin board material.  This is just what the young Titans need to get over the hump vs your Tigers on 12/29!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on December 22, 2007, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on December 22, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 11:43:07 AM
Bulletin board material.

"Troublemaker Taps Tigers To Triumph -- Titans Ticked"

OxyBob

Nice alliteration :D.  Talkative Tiger Totes Team To Topple Titans
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2007, 12:51:20 PM
Scores from 12/21

Humboldt State (D2) 95, Williamette 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 23, 2007, 10:00:42 AM
Scores from 12/22

Louisiana-Monroe (D1) 96, Texas-Tyler 51
Manhattanville 87, Northwood, FL (NAIA 2) 77
Cal State Chico (D2) 80, Williamette 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 27, 2007, 10:40:05 AM
Scores from 12/26

Fontbonne 66, Hope International (NAIA 1) 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 28, 2007, 09:38:56 AM
Totals through 12/27

D3 vs.

D1....1-22
D2....15-48
NAIA 1....13-21
NAIA 2....87-67
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....30-4
USCAA....39-14
Other....30-6
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 29, 2007, 09:03:52 AM
Scores from 12/28

Aquinas (NAIA 2) 92, Hiram 64
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 82, Hobart 71
Hope 97, Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 48
Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 76, Mount Union 53
Texas-Permain Basin (NAIA 1) 87, Howard Payne 77
Texas-San Antonio (D1) 77, McMurry 56
UW-La Crosse 83, Marian, IN (NAIA 2) 81 (OT)
Westmont (NAIA 1) 57, Baruch 55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 29, 2007, 09:40:40 AM
Nice effort by Baruch last night against Westmont. The Bearcats took the Warriors down to the wire before falling 57-55. No one gave Baruch much of a chance and they made a game of it. However, this year's Westmont team is probably not even a middle-of-the-pack GSAC team. It looks like the Warriors may very well be the ninth-best team in the conference.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: cawcdad on December 29, 2007, 10:34:21 AM
Also on 12/28:
North Park 73 CSU East Bay (NAIA 2) 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2007, 08:31:23 AM
Scores from 12/29

California, PA (D2) 59, Lake Erie 46
Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 73, Dominican 70
Central 90, William Woods (NAIA 1) 77
Centre 79, Berea (NAIA 2) 71 (OT)
Columbia (D1) 109, Polytechnic 63
at Concordia-Austin 102, #8 Hastings NE (NAIA 2) 97*
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 77, St. Lawrence 74
Finlandia 71, Davenport (NAIA 2) 70C
Florida Memorial (NAIA 2) 86, Amherst 79
Hope 96, Mount Vernon Nazarene (NAIA 2) 77
Jamestown (NAIA 2) 85, UW-Eau Claire 76
Loyola, IL (D1) 89, St. Mary's 45
Millikin 81, Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 64
Olivet 65, Marian, IN (NAIA 2) 56
Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) 80, UW-Platteville 78
Purdue-Calumet (NAIA 1) 58, Alma 47
Rio Grande (NAIA 2) 108, Hiram 101
St. Vincent 92, Ohio-Eastern (other) 62
Texas-Arlington (D1) 74, Hardin-Simmons 54
Viterbo (NAIA 2) 80, Marian 60
Westmont (NAIA 1) 78, Puget Sound 75
Wheeling Jesuit (D2) 73, Wilmington 64
Wooster 87, Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 71


(* I didn't know that Hastings was ranked that highly! -Ralph Turner)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2007, 09:07:18 AM
Scores from 12/30

Arkansas State (D1) 92, MacMurray 43
Concordia, CA (NAIA 1) 87, Southern Maine 61
Incarnate Word (D2) 78, Sul Ross State 75
Millsaps 59, Loyola, LA (NAIA 1) 69
Thompson Rivers (other) 92, Whitman 91 (OT)
West Liberty State (D2) 88, Wilmington 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 31, 2007, 09:20:14 AM
Totals through 12/30

D3 vs.

D1....1-27
D2....15-52
NAIA 1....15-27
NAIA 2....96-76
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....31-4
USCAA....39-14
Other....31-7
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Darryl Nester on December 31, 2007, 10:58:17 PM
While the Millikin/Concordia score made the 12/30 list, I didn't see this score from that same day (in the championship game of the Bluffton tournament; MU/Concordia was the consolation game):

Bluffton 69, Ohio Dominican (NAIA 2 [?]) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on January 01, 2008, 03:13:06 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on December 22, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 11:43:07 AM
Bulletin board material.

"Troublemaker Taps Tigers To Triumph -- Titans Ticked"

OxyBob

Well Oxy prevailed, even with Bob's "bulletin board material"  Good win for Oxy
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on January 01, 2008, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 29, 2007, 09:40:40 AM
Nice effort by Baruch last night against Westmont. The Bearcats took the Warriors down to the wire before falling 57-55. No one gave Baruch much of a chance and they made a game of it. However, this year's Westmont team is probably not even a middle-of-the-pack GSAC team. It looks like the Warriors may very well be the ninth-best team in the conference.

Rhodes are you a Baruch follower?  Looks like they played Edgewood tough the next night...tough weekend for them.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on January 01, 2008, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: LogShow on January 01, 2008, 03:13:06 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on December 22, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 11:43:07 AM
Bulletin board material.

"Troublemaker Taps Tigers To Triumph -- Titans Ticked"

OxyBob

Well Oxy prevailed, even with Bob's "bulletin board material"  Good win for Oxy

Oxy Overlooks Obnoxiously Opinionated Oracle, Overcomes Opposition
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 01, 2008, 06:31:21 PM
Quote from: LogShow on January 01, 2008, 03:15:44 PM

Rhodes are you a Baruch follower?  Looks like they played Edgewood tough the next night...tough weekend for them.

I'm not a Baruch fan, but I do see them play pretty often because I live fairly close to the school. Yes, it was a tough weekend for the Bearcats--losing two close games 3,000 miles from home.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on January 01, 2008, 06:39:14 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on January 01, 2008, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: LogShow on January 01, 2008, 03:13:06 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on December 22, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 11:43:07 AM
Bulletin board material.

"Troublemaker Taps Tigers To Triumph -- Titans Ticked"

OxyBob

Well Oxy prevailed, even with Bob's "bulletin board material"  Good win for Oxy

Oxy Overlooks Obnoxiously Opinionated Oracle, Overcomes Opposition

LOL, if I could give karma points that you would get one from me
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 01, 2008, 09:53:19 PM
Scores from 12/31

Central 82, Ashford (NAIA 2) 79
Citadel (D1) 71, Cornell 63
Valley City State (NAIA 2) 90, Simpson 69
Wiley (NAIA 1) 93, East Texas Baptist 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 01, 2008, 11:17:27 PM
Score from 1/1

Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 103, Philadelphia Biblical 48
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 03, 2008, 08:20:00 AM
Scores from 1/2

Alvernia 62, Williamson Trade (USCAA) 56
Clarion (D2) 92, Brockport State 84
Franklin & Marshall 105, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 78
Greensboro 88, Newport News Apprentice (USCAA) 85
Harris-Stowe (NAIA 1) 68, Greenville 41
Indiana, PA (D2) 66, Pitt-Greensburg 60
Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) 80, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 72
Tennessee Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 74, Philadelphia Biblical 53
Transylvania 72, Spalding (NAIA 2) 49
Whittier 94, Portland Bible (other) 43
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 03, 2008, 08:31:54 AM
Totals through 1/2

D3 vs.

D1....1-28
D2....15-54
NAIA 1....15-30
NAIA 2....100-79
NCCAA 1....4-0
NCCAA 2....31-4
USCAA....42-14
Other....32-7
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2008, 09:05:45 AM
Scores from 1/4

DeSales 101, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 69
Huntingdon 81, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 74
Lake Forest 68, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 36
Minnesota State Mankato (D2) 87, Monmouth 62
Piedmont 74, Southeastern (NCCAA 2) 72
Rutgers-Newark 70, Albany Pharmacy (other) 36
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on January 06, 2008, 02:02:55 PM
well all the games against non-d3 opponents is probably just about wrapped up
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 06, 2008, 07:02:08 PM
I don't know. Some conferences are small, so there's always some activity afoot.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 07, 2008, 11:41:13 AM
Scores from 1/5

Castleton State 102, Vermont Tech (USCAA) 83
Coastal Carolina (D1) 83, Susquehanna 72
Delaware Valley 70, Penn State-Delaware County (other) 55
Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 101, Maranatha Baptist 98
Grove City 83, Briarcliffe (USCAA) 68
Maryville, TN 80, Southeastern, FL (NCCAA 2) 66
Minot State (NAIA 2) 79, Presentation 65
Morningside (NAIA 2) 76, Nebraska Wesleyan 46
Rust 90, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 85
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 07, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: LogShow on January 06, 2008, 02:02:55 PM
well all the games against non-d3 opponents is probably just about wrapped up
Quote from: smedindy on January 06, 2008, 07:02:08 PM
I don't know. Some conferences are small, so there's always some activity afoot.
I didn't check this year's schedule, but if last year is any indication, there should be over 100 more games vs. non-D3 teams.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 07, 2008, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 07, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: LogShow on January 06, 2008, 02:02:55 PM
well all the games against non-d3 opponents is probably just about wrapped up
Quote from: smedindy on January 06, 2008, 07:02:08 PM
I don't know. Some conferences are small, so there's always some activity afoot.
I didn't check this year's schedule, but if last year is any indication, there should be over 100 more games vs. non-D3 teams.
Rhodes, I counted 624 games that you noted last year.  I count 456 games that you have noted this season.  That leaves another 150+ games left.

Thanks for doing this every year, and plus one! :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2008, 09:37:20 AM
Ralph: Thanks. It's nice to know that you find this to be an interesting topic.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2008, 09:38:54 AM
Scores from 1/7

Hood 102, Penn State-York (other) 55
Radford (D1) 124, Emory and Henry 109
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2008, 09:49:45 AM
Totals through 1/7

D3 vs.

D1....1-30
D2....15-55
NAIA 1....16-30
NAIA 2....100-81
NCCAA 1....6-0
NCCAA 2....33-5
USCAA....45-14
Other....35-7

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 09, 2008, 09:12:08 AM
Scores from 1/8

LaGrange 81, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 71
Northland 84, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 10, 2008, 09:35:09 AM
Scores from 1/9

Geneseo State 67, Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 66 (OT)
Nebraska Wesleyan 66, Doane (NAIA 2) 60
Wentworth Tech 79, Fisher (NAIA 2) 46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on January 10, 2008, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 07, 2008, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 07, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: LogShow on January 06, 2008, 02:02:55 PM
well all the games against non-d3 opponents is probably just about wrapped up
Quote from: smedindy on January 06, 2008, 07:02:08 PM
I don't know. Some conferences are small, so there's always some activity afoot.
I didn't check this year's schedule, but if last year is any indication, there should be over 100 more games vs. non-D3 teams.
Rhodes, I counted 624 games that you noted last year.  I count 456 games that you have noted this season.  That leaves another 150+ games left.

Thanks for doing this every year, and plus one! :)

I stand corrected...Sounds like there is lots more games left against non-d3 opponents :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 10, 2008, 02:52:33 PM
If nothing else, Nebraska Wesleyan will always keep this area busy!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 11, 2008, 07:28:08 AM
Neb Wes looks to be better this year than they've been the last couple of years. The Prairie Wolves were really beat up by the other GPAC teams last year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 11, 2008, 07:32:29 AM
Scores from 1/10

Cornell (D1) 91, Alvernia 46
Maine-Presque Isle 72, Maine-Machias (NAIA 2)71
Maryville, TN 94, Covenant (NAIA 2) 74
Piedmont 99, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 94 (OT)
St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 57, Skidmore 54
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 77, North Central, MN 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2008, 09:57:30 AM
Scores from 1/11

Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 75, University of Dallas 70
Rochester Tech 72, Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 71
Southeastern (NCCAA 2) 75, North Central, MN 56
Southern Virginia (USCAA) 106, Lyndon State 81
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2008, 09:59:59 AM
Scores from 1/12

Central Bible (NCCAA 2) 53, North Central, MN 40
Chapman 68, West Coast Bible (USCAA) 55
Dordt (NAIA 2) 65, Nebraska Wesleyan 56
Southern Vermont 98, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 94
Yale (D1) 92, Oberlin 41
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on January 14, 2008, 01:04:44 AM
every time I check this board there is always more results floating in!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2008, 12:00:19 AM
Scores from 1/13

Christopher Newport 95, Maryland Bible (other) 79
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 92, Schreiner 65
Thomas 83, Maine-Augusta (USCAA) 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on January 15, 2008, 02:13:20 AM
Rhodes do you just hunt down scores all day?  Great work! +1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2008, 09:39:35 AM
Quote from: LogShow on January 15, 2008, 02:13:20 AM
Rhodes do you just hunt down scores all day?  Great work! +1
It keeps me out of trouble.  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2008, 09:51:56 AM
Totals through 1/13

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....15-55
NAIA 1....16-30
NAIA 2....107-83
NCCAA 1....8-0
NCCAA 2....34-8
USCAA....46-17
Other....37-7

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2008, 10:11:09 AM
Scores from 1/14

Brooklyn 89, Berkeley (other) 63
Carthage 84, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 44
Rowan 88, Penn State-Abington (other) 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 16, 2008, 05:55:14 PM
You found that missing Rust score?

Chapman beat West Coast Baptist 68-55, per the Chapman web site.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2008, 10:55:44 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 16, 2008, 05:55:14 PM
You found that missing Rust score?

Chapman beat West Coast Baptist 68-55, per the Chapman web site.

Yeah, I got the Rust score a few days back. Thanks for the Chapman @ W.C. Baptist score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2008, 07:17:19 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2008, 10:55:44 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 16, 2008, 05:55:14 PM
You found that missing Rust score?

Chapman beat West Coast Baptist 68-55, per the Chapman web site.

Yeah, I got the Rust score a few days back. Thanks for the Chapman @ W.C. Baptist score.
Then please tell Pat!  :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 17, 2008, 07:55:49 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2008, 07:17:19 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2008, 10:55:44 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 16, 2008, 05:55:14 PM
You found that missing Rust score?

Chapman beat West Coast Baptist 68-55, per the Chapman web site.

Yeah, I got the Rust score a few days back. Thanks for the Chapman @ W.C. Baptist score.
Then please tell Pat!  :)
To tell you the truth I forgot where I found the score. It was either on Pat's scoreboard or Massey. Anyway the score is up on d3hoops.com's scoreboard now.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 17, 2008, 08:01:22 AM
Scores from 1/15

Finlandia 100, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 65
Holy Names (NAIA 2) 88, UC Santa Cruz 58
Pillsbury Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 80, Crown 76
Penn State-York (other) 77, Lancaster Bible 66
Presentation 91, Trinity Bible (NCCAA 2) 77
Rose-Hulman 70, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) (OT)
Southern Vermont 96, Vermont Tech (USCAA) 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 17, 2008, 09:38:55 AM
Scores from 1/16

Maine-Presque Isle 81, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 68
Marywood 70, Penn College (other) 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 17, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
A Rust assistant coach occasionally e-mails us scores, thankfully. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 17, 2008, 11:20:46 PM
You mean very occasionally, don't you?  :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 18, 2008, 08:04:21 AM
Totals through 1/16

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....15-55
NAIA 1....17-30
NAIA 2....108-84
NCCAA 1....8-0
NCCAA 2....36-9
USCAA....48-17
Other....40-8
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2008, 08:19:51 PM
Scores from 1/17

Marian 78, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 53
Maryville, TN 82, King (NAIA 2) 66
Piedmont 95, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 87 (OT)
Rust 99, Philander Smith (USCAA) 89
Widener 79, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2008, 08:21:05 PM
Score from 1/18

Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 63, North Central, MN 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 21, 2008, 10:21:00 PM
Scores from 1/19

Dakota Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 71, Nebraska Wesleyan 67
Lyndon State 73, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 22, 2008, 08:05:58 AM
Scores from 1/21

Berry (NAIA 1) 79, LaGrange 75
Huntingdon 92, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 56
Montclair State 97, Berkeley (other) 29
Muskingum 80, Penn State-Allegheny (USCAA) 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 22, 2008, 08:16:40 AM
Totals through 1/21

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....15-55
NAIA 1....17-31
NAIA 2....110-85
NCCAA 1....8-0
NCCAA 2....40-10
USCAA....50-17
Other....41-8
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 22, 2008, 12:28:48 PM
Oooh, Berkeley College. They're 0-12. Montclair held them to 9-48 from the floor, outrebounded them 50-34, and forced 31 turnovers. Other than that, they were competitive!

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 22, 2008, 10:43:48 PM
What's really funny is that this is Montclair's second win over Berkeley this year. Earlier in the season they won, 81-35. Don't know if it's correct, but Massey has Berkeley winning two games this year. One over Sarah Lawrence and the other against Pratt.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 24, 2008, 08:37:33 AM
Scores from 1/22

Arcadia 77, Penn State-Hazleton (other) 50
University of Dallas 79, Dallas Christian (NCCAA 2) 74
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 93, Lancaster Bible 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 24, 2008, 08:40:12 AM
Scores from 1/23

Fitchburg State 82, Fisher (NAIA 2) 63
Nebraska Wesleyan 69, Midland Lutheran (NAIA 2) 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 08:25:45 AM
Scores from 1/24

Emmanuel, GA (NAIA 1) 86, LaGrange 72
Lancaster Bible 94, Penn College (other) 77
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 94, Arcadia 91 (OT)
West Coast Baptist (other) 75, La Sierra 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 08:28:41 AM
Scores from 1/25

Concordia, IL 74, Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 68
Concordia, WI 82, Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 08:38:49 AM
Totals through 1/25

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....15-55
NAIA 1....17-33
NAIA 2....114-85
NCCAA 1....9-0
NCCAA 2....41-12
USCAA....50-18
Other....43-9

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 26, 2008, 03:10:41 PM
Rust against Concordia - Selma? Wow, that's going to be a tough one to crack...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2008, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 26, 2008, 03:10:41 PM
Rust against Concordia - Selma? Wow, that's going to be a tough one to crack...
Concordia-Selma 74, Rust 62 (http://www.selmatimesjournal.com/articles/2008/01/23/sports/local/sport%208229.txt)   ;D

As Lightning McQueen would say, "Ka-Chowwww"!!!  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 26, 2008, 05:58:48 PM
I bow down....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2008, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 26, 2008, 03:10:41 PM
Rust against Concordia - Selma? Wow, that's going to be a tough one to crack...
Concordia-Selma 74, Rust 62 (http://www.selmatimesjournal.com/articles/2008/01/23/sports/local/sport%208229.txt)   ;D

As Lightning McQueen would say, "Ka-Chowwww"!!!  :D

I've heard of Steve McQueen and Lightning Hopkins but not Lightning McQueen. Anyway, thanks for the score, I'm sure this one wasn't easy to dig up.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 27, 2008, 12:17:49 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2008, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 26, 2008, 03:10:41 PM
Rust against Concordia - Selma? Wow, that's going to be a tough one to crack...
Concordia-Selma 74, Rust 62 (http://www.selmatimesjournal.com/articles/2008/01/23/sports/local/sport%208229.txt)   ;D

As Lightning McQueen would say, "Ka-Chowwww"!!!  :D

I've heard of Steve McQueen and Lightning Hopkins but not Lightning McQueen. Anyway, thanks for the score, I'm sure this one wasn't easy to dig up.
You apparently do not have grandchildren who watch the Pixar's movie Cars on DVD from sun-up to sun-down!   :D

Actually the movie is typical "Disney style" animated feature with about three levels of humor going on in every scene!  ROTFLMAO every time that I see some parts of it.  I saw it 11 times over Christmas alone!   :D ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 27, 2008, 10:16:29 AM
Scores from 1/26

Morningside (NAIA 2) 69, Nebraska Wesleyan 54
Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 69, Washington and Jefferson 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2008, 08:36:39 AM
Score from 1/27

Maine-Presque Isle 93, Unity (USCAA) 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2008, 08:30:21 AM
Scores from 1/28

Gallaudet 63, Christendom (USCAA) 51
Greenville 97, St. Louis Christian (NCCAA 2) 43
Houghton (NAIA 2) 66, Fredonia State 53
Maryville, TN 81, Tennessee Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 62
Rust 76, Oakwood (USCAA) 71
St. Vincent 95, Penn State-Fayette (USCAA) 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on January 30, 2008, 10:16:26 PM
...And the results keep rolling in
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2008, 08:48:06 AM
Scores from 1/29

Lancaster Bible 89, Davis (NCCAA 2) 87
Nebraska Wesleyan 72, Dana (NAIA 2) 87
Thomas 85, Unity (USCAA) 48
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2008, 10:19:31 PM
Score from 1/30

Green Mountain 73, Vermont Tech (USCAA) 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2008, 10:46:17 PM
Totals through 1/30

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....15-55
NAIA 1....17-33
NAIA 2....116-88
NCCAA 1....9-0
NCCAA 2....43-12
USCAA....56-18
Other....43-9

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2008, 09:11:46 AM
Ralph: Thanks once again for going the extra mile. The score was inputed and the totals adjusted.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2008, 09:14:07 AM
Scores from 1/31

Baptist Bible 77, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 65
Piedmont 98, Toccoa Falls (NCCAA 2) 78
Waldorf (NAIA 2) 90, North Central, MN 45
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2008, 08:57:23 AM
Scores from 2/1

Finlandia 76, Rochester, MI (USCAA) 71
North Central, MN 72, Faith Baptist (NCCAA 2) 67
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 79, LaGrange 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2008, 08:13:57 AM
Scores from 2/2

Arcadia 77, Penn State-Delaware County (other) 56
Chapman 67, Hope International (NAIA 1) 66
Finlandia 103, Marygrove (USCAA) 82
Green Mountain 74, Albany Pharmacy (other) 60
Northwestern, IA (NAIA 2) 77, Nebraska Wesleyan 53
Southern Maine Community College (USCAA) 75, Lyndon State 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2008, 08:15:45 AM
Scores from 2/3

Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 82, Lyndon State 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2008, 08:17:15 AM
Scores from 2/4

Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 81, Principia 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2008, 08:27:43 AM
Totals through 2/4

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....15-55
NAIA 1....18-33
NAIA 2....116-91
NCCAA 1....9-1
NCCAA 2....46-12
USCAA....58-20
Other....45-9
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2008, 09:11:43 AM
Scores from 2/5

Dallas Christian (NCCAA 2) 73, Univ. of Dallas 70
Dominican, CA (NAIA 2) 72, UC Santa Cruz 54
Lancaster Bible 94, Washington Bible (NCCAA 2) 42
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2008, 09:23:46 AM
Scores from 2/6

Hastings (NAIA 2) 62, Nebraska Wesleyan 53
Southeastern Bible (NCCAA 2) 81, Huntingdon 76
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 74, Eastern 71
Wilkes 96, Penn College (other) 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2008, 09:30:36 AM
Score from 2/7

Lycoming 79, Penn State-Hazelton (other) 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 09, 2008, 09:08:23 AM
Totals through 2/7

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....15-55
NAIA 1....18-33
NAIA 2....116-93
NCCAA 1....9-1
NCCAA 2....47-15
USCAA....58-20
Other....47-9

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2008, 09:33:45 AM
Scores from 2/8

Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 69, UC Santa Cruz 64
Southwestern, AZ (NCCAA 2) 83, La Sierra 80
Trinity Bible (NCCAA 2) 80, North Central, MN 68
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 87, Mount Aloysius 80
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: mattgrubb on February 11, 2008, 02:13:21 PM
has any team beaten 4 scholarship schools this year or 2 or 3 or 5 etc.
I guess the basic question is "has any team beaten all of the scholarship schools they faced?"
meaning more than 1 and without a loss to a scholarship school b/c i believe some teams have split

I think Murvul has made a good run at it with 4-0 versus scholarship schools and Carson Newman is ranked in the D2 regional rankings and King is at the top of their NAIA 2 conference.

I know we always think very highly of our Murvul teams, but i think is a great accomplishment even though Covenant and Tennessee Wesleyan are terrible.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 11, 2008, 02:41:00 PM
I know Nebraska Wesleyan has beaten their fair share. Of course, most of their conference is scholarship, so there's that...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 11, 2008, 02:42:21 PM
Puget Sound has a number of wins against scholorship schools this year:

2-0 against D2 (Bemidji State and Cal St. Stanislaus)

1-0 against NAIA 2 (Northwest University)

1-0 against Corban (Christian College)

only loss against scholorship was to Westmont NAIA 1.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 11, 2008, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: LogShow on February 11, 2008, 02:42:21 PM
Puget Sound has a number of wins against scholorship schools this year:

2-0 against D2 (Bemidji State and Cal St. Stanislaus)

1-0 against NAIA 2 (Northwest University)

1-0 against Corban (Christian College)
only loss against scholorship was to Westmont NAIA 1.

1-0 against Corban (Christian College) also NAIA 2 in the Cascade Conference
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 11, 2008, 03:20:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 11, 2008, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: LogShow on February 11, 2008, 02:42:21 PM
Puget Sound has a number of wins against scholorship schools this year:

2-0 against D2 (Bemidji State and Cal St. Stanislaus)

1-0 against NAIA 2 (Northwest University)

1-0 against Corban (Christian College)
only loss against scholorship was to Westmont NAIA 1.

1-0 against Corban (Christian College) also NAIA 2 in the Cascade Conference

Ah yeah I was confused...Corban is NAIA 2.  The Cascade Conference is more or less a quote Christian College Conference.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: mattgrubb on February 11, 2008, 04:10:49 PM
what do you guys think is the premier D3 over scholarship win this season?

I still like the exhibition win of RIC over Holy Cross, even though it was an exhibition
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 11, 2008, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: mattgrubb on February 11, 2008, 04:10:49 PM
what do you guys think is the premier D3 over scholarship win this season?

I still like the exhibition win of RIC over Holy Cross, even though it was an exhibition

I think St. Thomas' win over perrenial DII champion Winona State is the best victory so far this season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 11, 2008, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 11, 2008, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: mattgrubb on February 11, 2008, 04:10:49 PM
what do you guys think is the premier D3 over scholarship win this season?

I still like the exhibition win of RIC over Holy Cross, even though it was an exhibition

I think St. Thomas' win over perrenial DII champion Winona State is the best victory so far this season.

I would have to agree...that was a huge win
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 11, 2008, 05:26:28 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 11, 2008, 04:31:42 PM

I think St. Thomas' win over perrenial DII champion Winona State is the best victory so far this season.

THIS!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: SU97 on February 11, 2008, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: mattgrubb on February 11, 2008, 02:13:21 PM
has any team beaten 4 scholarship schools this year or 2 or 3 or 5 etc.
I guess the basic question is "has any team beaten all of the scholarship schools they faced?"
meaning more than 1 and without a loss to a scholarship school b/c i believe some teams have split

Do exhibition games count?  Shenandoah beat University of Maryland - Eastern Shore (UMES) 94-91 in triple OT (preseason game), Houston Baptist University, and Shippensburg University.  Unfortunately, they have not figured out how to win in the USA South conference...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2008, 08:52:15 AM
Scores from 2/9

Hesser (USCAA) 58, Lyndon State 56
Lake Superior State (D2) 86, Finlandia 64
Nebraska Wesleyan 70, Mount Marty (NAIA 2) 61
Oakwood (other) 92, Rust 74
UW-Platteville 80, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2008, 08:53:42 AM
Score from 2/10

Albany Pharmacy (other) 73, Morrisville State 71 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2008, 08:55:22 AM
Score from 2/11

Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 91, Huntingdon 77
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 12, 2008, 09:44:56 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2008, 08:53:42 AM
Score from 2/10

Albany Pharmacy (other) 73, Morrisville State 71 (OT)


Must have slipped 'em all a Mickey in their water bottles...

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: mattgrubb on February 12, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
my bad, that win over Winona State was super sick, that is one of the biggest D3 over D2 wins of all time
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2008, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: smedindy on February 12, 2008, 09:44:56 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2008, 08:53:42 AM
Score from 2/10

Albany Pharmacy (other) 73, Morrisville State 71 (OT)


Must have slipped 'em all a Mickey in their water bottles...

I never thought of that, but now that you mention it it does kind of make sense.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 12, 2008, 09:42:20 PM
Gotta watch out for those pharmacy guys - I'm amazed that the St. Louis school always seems to be the butt of jokes! ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 12, 2008, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: mattgrubb on February 12, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
my bad, that win over Winona State was super sick, that is one of the biggest D3 over D2 wins of all time


It was a big splash that no one heard.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2008, 08:34:29 AM
St. Thomas' win over Winona State is one of the best wins for a D3 team ever. That win snapped Winona State's 36-game home winning streak and is the Warriors only blemish this year (25-1). The three other D3 teams that faced Winona State this year weren't so fortunate:

Bethany Lutheran lost 119-57
St. Mary's, MN lost 118-53
UW-Stout lost 95- 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 14, 2008, 09:00:14 AM
Scores from 2/12

Buffalo State 82, Houghton (NAIA 2) 63
Chapman 91, West Coast Baptist (other) 57
Nebraska Wesleyan 63, Concordia-Nebraska (NAIA 2) 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 14, 2008, 09:15:20 AM
Totals through 2/12

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....15-56
NAIA 1....18-33
NAIA 2....119-94
NCCAA 1....9-2
NCCAA 2....47-18
USCAA....59-21
Other....48-11
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2008, 09:04:41 AM
Scores from 2/13

King's 110, Penn College (other) 82
Lehman 86, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 84
Penn State-Hazleton (other) 73, Penn State-Harrisburg 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2008, 09:06:46 AM
Scores from 2/14

Rowan 86, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 83
SUNYIT 93, Albany Pharmacy (other) 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2008, 09:08:48 AM
Score from 2/15

University of Dallas 79, Johnson & Wales (NAIA 2) 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 18, 2008, 03:19:02 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 12, 2008, 09:42:20 PM
Gotta watch out for those pharmacy guys - I'm amazed that the St. Louis school always seems to be the butt of jokes! ;)

St. Louis College of Pharmacy bring those jokes upon itself, Chuck. The Eutectics are 4-20 this season, with eleven of those losses featuring final margins of over twenty points. Those four wins were over the not-quite-formidable likes of St. Louis Christian College, Concordia Seminary (twice), and Logan Chiropractic. St. Louis Christian, an NCCAA Division II team, is 9-18 on the year. Concordia Seminary is a team that, true to its name, consists of graduate students. Logan Chiropractic is a club team -- a club team that's split its two games with the Eutectics in 2007-08. Heck, the Eutectics even lost to Principia (4-16) this season.

On the other hand, I have to give it up to St. Louis College of Pharmacy for having a cool nickname for its gym. The Eutectics play in Cartwright Student Center Gymnasium, which is informally dubbed "the Pillbox."
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 19, 2008, 09:33:24 AM
Scores from 2/16

California Maritime (NAIA 2) 86, UC Santa Cruz 71
Finlandia 85, Northland Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 70
Philander Smith (USCAA) 105, Rust 96
Sioux Falls (NAIA 2) 75, Nebraska Wesleyan 39
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 19, 2008, 09:34:37 AM
Score from 2/18

Penn State-Abington (other) 66, Keystone 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 20, 2008, 12:30:44 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 19, 2008, 09:33:24 AM
Sioux Falls (NAIA 2) 75, Nebraska Wesleyan 39

Sioux Falls is only 10-17, 7-9. If the Cougars were able to hammer Nebraska Wesleyan (13-10, 7-9) that badly, I shudder to think of how the Prairie Wolves will fare if they get a Pool B bid to the D3 tourney.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 20, 2008, 01:43:14 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 20, 2008, 12:30:44 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 19, 2008, 09:33:24 AM
Sioux Falls (NAIA 2) 75, Nebraska Wesleyan 39

Sioux Falls is only 10-17, 7-9. If the Cougars were able to hammer Nebraska Wesleyan (13-10, 7-9) that badly, I shudder to think of how the Prairie Wolves will fare if they get a Pool B bid to the D3 tourney.

Yikes...I agree with you on that one!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 20, 2008, 11:24:34 AM
Or, it could be one of THOSE games. A collective stink bomb by everyone. They fell behind early and didn't have the stuff to claw back into it. It happens.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 21, 2008, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: smedindy on February 20, 2008, 11:24:34 AM
Or, it could be one of THOSE games. A collective stink bomb by everyone. They fell behind early and didn't have the stuff to claw back into it. It happens.

True, but 34 points?  Usually the team can make it respectable and keep it under 25.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 21, 2008, 09:31:36 AM
Scores from 2/19

Dubuque 83, Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 61
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 94, Lancaster Bible 65
West Coast Baptist (other) 76, La Sierra 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 21, 2008, 12:54:52 PM
Okay now the games against non-D3 competition have to be just about wrapping up...right? 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 21, 2008, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: LogShow on February 21, 2008, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: smedindy on February 20, 2008, 11:24:34 AM
Or, it could be one of THOSE games. A collective stink bomb by everyone. They fell behind early and didn't have the stuff to claw back into it. It happens.

True, but 34 points?  Usually the team can make it respectable and keep it under 25.

Oh, I've seen a team get drilled by 40 for no apparent reason. Well, I guess there WAS an apparent reason.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 21, 2008, 03:58:39 PM
Quote from: smedindy on February 21, 2008, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: LogShow on February 21, 2008, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: smedindy on February 20, 2008, 11:24:34 AM
Or, it could be one of THOSE games. A collective stink bomb by everyone. They fell behind early and didn't have the stuff to claw back into it. It happens.

True, but 34 points?  Usually the team can make it respectable and keep it under 25.

Oh, I've seen a team get drilled by 40 for no apparent reason. Well, I guess there WAS an apparent reason.

lol...would that be because they are just that bad?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 22, 2008, 08:33:11 AM
Quote from: LogShow on February 21, 2008, 12:54:52 PM
Okay now the games against non-D3 competition have to be just about wrapping up...right? 
We're coming to the end of the line.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 22, 2008, 04:28:22 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 22, 2008, 08:33:11 AM
Quote from: LogShow on February 21, 2008, 12:54:52 PM
Okay now the games against non-D3 competition have to be just about wrapping up...right? 
We're coming to the end of the line.

Your work is almost done for the year!  +1 for effort in rounding up all the scores
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 23, 2008, 10:30:26 AM
Totals through 2/19

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....15-56
NAIA 1....18-33
NAIA 2....121-96
NCCAA 1....9-2
NCCAA 2....50-19
USCAA....59-22
Other....50-14
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 23, 2008, 01:10:15 PM
Scores from 2/20

Green Mountain 98, Word of Life (other) 51
New Hampshire Tech (USCAA) 90, Lyndon State 73
Midland Lutheran (NAIA 2) 82, Nebraska Wesleyan 60
Piedmont 111, Southeastern Bible (NCCAA 2) 97
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 23, 2008, 11:29:24 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 23, 2008, 01:10:15 PM
Midland Lutheran (NAIA 2) 82, Nebraska Wesleyan 60

Another loss that makes me think that Nebraska Wesleyan isn't all that and a bag of chips. This 22-point win makes Midland Lutheran only 5-23 overall and 3-15 in the GPAC, while NWU falls to 13-12 and 7-11.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 24, 2008, 10:01:32 AM
Could there be trouble brewing for Nebraska Wesleyan, or are they just coasting until the Independent tourney?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 10:57:00 AM
Losing to the top teams in the GPAC is understandable. Losing big to Sioux Falls and Midland Lutheran, however, should raise some flags.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 10:58:19 AM
Score from 2/21

Vanguard (NAIA 1) 73, Chapman 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 24, 2008, 01:47:55 PM
Is that the last non-D3 score for the year?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 10:32:56 PM
No, we're not done yet. When all the scores are in, I'll give the final totals.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 10:42:17 PM
Scores from 2/23

DeSales 75, Bloomsburg (D2) 67
Hastings (NAIA 2) 52, Nebraska Wesleyan 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 25, 2008, 07:06:15 PM
LogShow -- we occasionally have teams in the NCCAA tournaments as well, which would basically all be against non-Division III teams.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 25, 2008, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 25, 2008, 07:06:15 PM
LogShow -- we occasionally have teams in the NCCAA tournaments as well, which would basically all be against non-Division III teams.

I am not familiar with those tournaments.  I am guessing the NCCAA stands for the National Christian College Athletic Association?  How do D3 teams get invited to those tournaments?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on February 25, 2008, 08:54:29 PM
Quote from: LogShow on February 25, 2008, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 25, 2008, 07:06:15 PM
LogShow -- we occasionally have teams in the NCCAA tournaments as well, which would basically all be against non-Division III teams.

I am familiar with those tournaments.  I am guessing the NCCAA stands for the National Christian College Athletic Association?  How do D3 teams get invited to those tournaments?

By being members.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 25, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
So they are dually associated with the NCAA-D3 and the NCCAA?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 25, 2008, 08:59:41 PM
Quote from: LogShow on February 25, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
So they are dually associated with the NCAA-D3 and the NCCAA?

Yes.  While not the norm, dual memberships (including w/ NAIA, etc.) are not uncommon.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 25, 2008, 11:29:12 PM
They just have to declare which tourney they wish to be in, which is normally the NCCAA (or NAIA).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 26, 2008, 02:28:42 AM
Quote from: smedindy on February 25, 2008, 11:29:12 PM
They just have to declare which tourney they wish to be in, which is normally the NCCAA (or NAIA).

That's something they have to do before the year starts?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 26, 2008, 03:08:50 AM
Quote from: LogShow on February 26, 2008, 02:28:42 AM
Quote from: smedindy on February 25, 2008, 11:29:12 PM
They just have to declare which tourney they wish to be in, which is normally the NCCAA (or NAIA).

That's something they have to do before the year starts?

In the case of the NAIA, a dual-member school needs to declare at the start of the season whether it will compete for the NAIA tournament or for the NCAA-D3 tournament. In the case of the NCCAA, this is not necessary, since the NCCAA does not have a preseason deadline. In other words, a school that is a dual member of D3 and the NCCAA can aspire to make the D3 tourney and then choose to participate in the NCCAA tourney as a consolation prize if it does not qualify for the D3 tourney.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 26, 2008, 12:51:15 PM
Thanks for the info Sager!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 01, 2008, 09:23:05 AM
Score from 2/27

Davis (NCCAA 2) 87, Philadelphia Biblical 74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 01, 2008, 09:24:18 AM
Score from 2/28

Crown 113, Trinity Bible (NCCAA 2) 111
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 01, 2008, 09:25:40 AM
Score from 2/29

North Central, MN 77, Pillsbury Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 45
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 10, 2008, 10:37:47 PM
Score from 3/7

Trinity Christian (NCCAA 2) 82, Greenville 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 15, 2008, 11:04:10 PM
Score from 3/8

Trinity Christian (NCCAA 2) 76, Northwestern, MN 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 22, 2008, 08:48:54 AM
Final Totals for 2008*

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....16-56
NAIA 1....18-34
NAIA 2....121-98
NCCAA 1....9-2
NCCAA 2....53-22
USCAA....59-23
Other....51-14

*Subject to revision
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: fcnews on November 02, 2008, 12:49:39 AM
SLIAC's Westminister College beats first year DI SIU-E 73-72 in exhibition action.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 02, 2008, 01:28:30 PM
D1 Ohio University tops Wooster 79-65 in an exhibition game yesterday.  Wooster stayed reasonably close throughout, getting as close as 6 midway through the second half, despite missing its top two players (both injured and not dressed).  Wooster used 14 players prior to garbage time, nine of whom were playing their first game in a Wooster uniform (eight frosh and one transfer.)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on November 05, 2008, 07:13:06 PM
Puget Sound squares off against Eastern Washington on November 8th.  Not a likely upset, but hey Puget Sound pulled it off 3 years ago against UC Riverside.  A fan can hope can't he? ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on November 05, 2008, 10:29:04 PM
I posted this on the UAA board a few days ago but Carnegie Mellon beat D2 Indiana University of PA last weekend.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: massd3fan on November 06, 2008, 08:39:32 AM
Here's three I know of this weekend:

Clark Vs Franklin Pierce (D2)
WPI Vs UNH (D1)
RIC vs URI (D1)

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FanJacket on November 06, 2008, 11:57:56 AM
Randolph Macon 73
George Mason 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2008, 03:05:22 PM
Ground rules for discussion and a decision by the gurus, especially Rhodes Scholar.

Will we count exhibition games that occur prior to the start of the D3 season?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on November 06, 2008, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2008, 03:05:22 PM
Ground rules for discussion and a decision by the gurus, especially Rhodes Scholar.

Will we count exhibition games that occur prior to the start of the D3 season?

I love it anytime a D3 plays with, or beats, a D1 or D2, but I don't think we can factor these games in - they don't count as real games for either team.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: fcnews on November 07, 2008, 10:12:04 AM
Isn't this an infomational site? Isn't the exhibition season win most of these D3 v. D1 games take place?

Keep them coming guys. I enjoy the info!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on November 07, 2008, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: fcnews on November 07, 2008, 10:12:04 AM
Isn't this an infomational site? Isn't the exhibition season win most of these D3 v. D1 games take place?

Keep them coming guys. I enjoy the info!

Yes, love the discussion, but I assumed Ralph was talking about the official records kept by Rhodes Scholar...


Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on March 22, 2008, 08:48:54 AM
Final Totals for 2008*

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....16-56
NAIA 1....18-34
NAIA 2....121-98
NCCAA 1....9-2
NCCAA 2....53-22
USCAA....59-23
Other....51-14

*Subject to revision
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: fcnews on November 07, 2008, 12:41:25 PM
Thanks Q, understandable.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 07, 2008, 08:10:53 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on November 07, 2008, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: fcnews on November 07, 2008, 10:12:04 AM
Isn't this an infomational site? Isn't the exhibition season win most of these D3 v. D1 games take place?

Keep them coming guys. I enjoy the info!

Yes, love the discussion, but I assumed Ralph was talking about the official records kept by Rhodes Scholar...


Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on March 22, 2008, 08:48:54 AM
Final Totals for 2008*

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....16-56
NAIA 1....18-34
NAIA 2....121-98
NCCAA 1....9-2
NCCAA 2....53-22
USCAA....59-23
Other....51-14

*Subject to revision
Yes!  Rhodes Scholars' yeoman's work on the inter-division games is one of the best features of the website.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 08, 2008, 01:35:00 PM
I've never kept track of the exhibition games because they don't have the same legitimacy as a regular season game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on November 08, 2008, 06:55:49 PM
Puget Sound goes down to Eastern Washington 66-90 in an exhibition game.  From the looks of the stats Puget Sound was outclassed by a better opponent.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 09, 2008, 07:53:07 PM
It's reported on the WIAC board that Platteville defeated Bradley tonight, 84-79.

VERY impressive!  Bradley is picked for 5th (of 10) in the Missouri Valley Conference (a solidly mid-major D1 conference), and went to the title game last year in the NIT.  While they lost a lot, they have two returning starters who were picked among the top 9 on the pre-season all-conference team.

Titan Q's first-place vote for UWP is lookin' good! ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2008, 09:34:30 PM
Good win indeed -- though Bradley played in the CBI, not the NIT.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 09, 2008, 09:53:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2008, 09:34:30 PM
Good win indeed -- though Bradley played in the CBI, not the NIT.

You're right - I didn't read 'The Valley' website carefully enough.  Never even heard of the CBI - is it legit?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 09, 2008, 09:55:08 PM
While I can understand that exhibition games don't count in the tracking done by Rhodes Scholar, I think it's interesting to note what has happened so far in exhibition season.

1) Westminster (MO) beats SIU Edwardsville which is moving up from D2 to D1 by one point, 73-72;
2) Randolph-Macon beats D1 George Mason, a team that won its conference championsip last season and was in the D1 Final Four two or three years back, also by a score of 73-72;
3) St. Mary's (MD) beats D2 Bowie State 82-75;
4) Wash U beats D2 University of Missouri Saint Louis 91-90 in 2 OTs;
5) UW Platteville beats D1 Bradley 84-79.

Not a bad showing.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 10, 2008, 12:10:59 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 09, 2008, 09:53:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2008, 09:34:30 PM
Good win indeed -- though Bradley played in the CBI, not the NIT.

You're right - I didn't read 'The Valley' website carefully enough.  Never even heard of the CBI - is it legit?

Ehh, I don't know if I'd go that far. After the NCAA and NIT pick their teams, how many teams are left?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 10, 2008, 12:27:48 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 10, 2008, 12:10:59 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 09, 2008, 09:53:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2008, 09:34:30 PM
Good win indeed -- though Bradley played in the CBI, not the NIT.

You're right - I didn't read 'The Valley' website carefully enough.  Never even heard of the CBI - is it legit?

Ehh, I don't know if I'd go that far. After the NCAA and NIT pick their teams, how many teams are left?

Well, at LEAST two... Bradley and the team that beat them in said championship...!  Yea!  We were the second best of the rest of the rest!

Actually, the CBI looks interesting... LINK TO BRACKETS (http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/cbi_bracket08.pdf).  The final was played in a 3 game series... so Bradley played 6 games in the 16 team tournament!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 10, 2008, 02:26:02 AM
Yeah, it is certainly the rest of the rest! :D

Still, some pretty big names in there - there's FAR worse D1 teams that Platteville could have conquered!  I'd say UWP and Randy-Mac have done D3 proud. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on November 10, 2008, 10:39:16 AM
Yeah, Cincinnati played in the tournament (and lost to Bradley) thanks to Nancy Zimpfer, who has done everything to destroy the cincinnati program since she arrived on the scene.  First, she fired Bob Huggins, then wouldnt sign Andy Kennedy, and because of that they lost all of their recruits.  They could have had Bill Walker and OJ Mayo last year (plus the other good recruits Huggins would have brought in) but instead they have had a crappy team for the last 3 years. I hate when administration gets heavily involved in athletics.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: fcnews on November 10, 2008, 11:04:11 AM
There is a very fine line, for Administration, between to involved and burying their head in the sand. Similar to the situation at Southeast Missouri State, which will probably end with this program getting the death penalty.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on November 10, 2008, 04:24:01 PM
I doubt that SE Missouri State would end up with the death penalty. The NCAA usually tries to avoid giving out the death penalty like the plague. Last time they did it was with SMU football in I think 1987. They haven't been to a bowl game since and they are part of the reason the Southwest Conference collpased. I would think the NCAA will punish severely but the not to the point of the death penalty.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 10, 2008, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on November 10, 2008, 10:39:16 AM
Yeah, Cincinnati played in the tournament (and lost to Bradley) thanks to Nancy Zimpfer, who has done everything to destroy the cincinnati program since she arrived on the scene.  First, she fired Bob Huggins, then wouldnt sign Andy Kennedy, and because of that they lost all of their recruits.  They could have had Bill Walker and OJ Mayo last year (plus the other good recruits Huggins would have brought in) but instead they have had a crappy team for the last 3 years. I hate when administration gets heavily involved in athletics.

I'd like proof OJ Mayo would have gone anywhere but USC.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on November 10, 2008, 04:45:34 PM
Chat with Mayo where he gives 9-10 college choices:
http://transcripts.usatoday.com/Chats/transcript.aspx?c=100

Cincinnati, OH: O.J., Can you tell us Cincinnati Bearcat fans where your recruitment stands with UC with & without coach Huggins at the University?
O.J. Mayo: Whether coach Huggins is there, Cincinnati is still going to be on my list. I like the university.

Also an article about Mayo mentioning interest in playing for Higgins:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/24/sports/24mayo.html?_r=1&oref=slogin#
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 10, 2008, 04:54:39 PM
Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on November 10, 2008, 04:45:34 PM
Chat with Mayo where he gives 9-10 college choices:
http://transcripts.usatoday.com/Chats/transcript.aspx?c=100

Cincinnati, OH: O.J., Can you tell us Cincinnati Bearcat fans where your recruitment stands with UC with & without coach Huggins at the University?
O.J. Mayo: Whether coach Huggins is there, Cincinnati is still going to be on my list. I like the university.

Also an article about Mayo mentioning interest in playing for Higgins:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/24/sports/24mayo.html?_r=1&oref=slogin#

Over a year passed between Huggins leaving Cinci and Mayo committing to USC...........thats drawing a pretty deep conclusion that he'd have ended up at Cinci with Huggins still there.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on November 10, 2008, 05:45:16 PM
You asked for proof Mayo would have gone anywhere but USC, so I gave you a list of schools he considered. Of course we aren't Mayo, so we dont know exactly how strong he considered each of the others.

Your proof is the list of schools he was looking at (not to mention his connects with Huggins). I never said he would have went to Cinci. But, he probably thought about K-State for a little bit.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 10, 2008, 07:09:13 PM
There's a big difference between being a school on a kids list, and a kid decommitting and going somewhere else.  Mayo committed to USC before his Sr. season even began.  Thats a long way from Cincinnati almost had him.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on November 10, 2008, 09:31:53 PM
I lived in Cincy for 12 years and Huggins recruited those two since they were in 6th grade.  Here is an article saying they would go play for him at UC. 

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20060324/ai_n16182529/pg_1

Walker followed him the KSU but Mayo said that if he was going to leave home, he might as well going to a bigger market (that is from something else I heard on local TV a while back).

Here is an espn article with the following quote "The assumption for more than a year was that Mayo would go to Cincinnati if Bob Huggins were still employed there":

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2510229

Here is another article criticizing Zimpfer: "Why now, Mrs. President, when Huggins could (and wanted to) finish out his two-year deal and get his team settled into new territory? Why now, when UC is in the middle of transitioning from Conference USA to the Big East? Why now, when Huggins was about to bring in one of the best recruiting classes ever with Cincinnati's own O.J. Mayo and teammate Bill Walker out of North College Hill High? Pardon me, but this is no Mid-American Conference they're moving to. This is the conference that sent eight schools to the Big Dance last year with high expectations to do the same again. "

http://www.e-sports.com/articles/785/1/Xs-and-Os-Huggs-and-Kisses-Goodbye/Page1.html


There was also word that Michael Beasley would have signed at UC if Huggins were still there, and Beasley did follow him to KSU.  That is a potential class of Mayo, Walker and Beasley that Zimpfer kicked out the door.

If you want I can get you dozens of more links about Mayo wanting to play for Huggins in his home town of Cincinnati, but obviously none of them will say he was committed because Huggins was fired before Mayo's Junior commitment period.  However, even if you dont want to believe that, Walker and Beasley would have definitely played for him at UC as they followed him to KSU.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 10, 2008, 11:12:57 PM
I can concede that Mayo had interest in Cinci and Coach Huggins........but thats still a long bridge between we recruited him to we had him.

Over 1 year in the life of a star eyed 16 year old super phenom prepster is a long a winding road.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on November 11, 2008, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: sac on November 10, 2008, 11:12:57 PM
I can concede that Mayo had interest in Cinci and Coach Huggins........but thats still a long bridge between we recruited him to we had him.

Over 1 year in the life of a star eyed 16 year old super phenom prepster is a long a winding road.

That may be true but when you know a coach from the time you are 11 (as far as I know, could be earlier), that school is in your home town, and you are bringing in the top class in the nation (like I said, could have been Walker, Beasley and Mayo), you would think that Huggins had a better chance than anyone.  Huggins, Mayo and, Walker all also we born in West Virginia. After Huggins was gone, there was no way any of those guys would go to a rebuilding program which they had no ties to (Walker and Mayo had big ties to Huggins), and Mayo wasnt even recruited by USC until after Huggins was fired (see previous link to espn article) and only really got serious about USC during Huggins 1 year hiatus from coaching (he was out of coaching in 05-06).  When Huggins went to KSU it wasnt clear how strong a program he would have and it wasnt clear if the KSU campus/fans would embrace and give Mayo the attention he wanted (neither would have been an issue at UC because he is the hometown 'hero').  He went to USC for publicity and to get all the attention he could ever want, but I still think because of his family and friends he would have rather stayed home for a year if the situation would have been right. Clearly, none of this matters at this point, but it is clearly Nancy Zimpfers fault that UC didnt have the greatest recruiting class I can recall.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 11, 2008, 12:15:49 AM
Quote from: hugenerd on November 11, 2008, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: sac on November 10, 2008, 11:12:57 PM
I can concede that Mayo had interest in Cinci and Coach Huggins........but thats still a long bridge between we recruited him to we had him.

Over 1 year in the life of a star eyed 16 year old super phenom prepster is a long a winding road.

That may be true but when you know a coach from the time you are 11 (as far as I know, could be earlier), that school is in your home town, and you are bringing in the top class in the nation (like I said, could have been Walker, Beasley and Mayo), you would think that Huggins had a better chance than anyone.  Huggins, Mayo and, Walker all also we born in West Virginia. After Huggins was gone, there was no way any of those guys would go to a rebuilding program which they had no ties to (Walker and Mayo had big ties to Huggins), and Mayo wasnt even recruited by USC until after Huggins was fired (see previous link to espn article) and only really got serious about USC during Huggins 1 year hiatus from coaching (he was out of coaching in 05-06).  When Huggins went to KSU it wasnt clear how strong a program he would have and it wasnt clear if the KSU campus/fans would embrace and give Mayo the attention he wanted (neither would have been an issue at UC because he is the hometown 'hero').  He went to USC for publicity and to get all the attention he could ever want, but I still think because of his family and friends he would have rather stayed home for a year if the situation would have been right. Clearly, none of this matters at this point, but it is clearly Nancy Zimpfers fault that UC didnt have the greatest recruiting class I can recall.

I'll take issue with this one on two counts:

1.  I don't recall the specifics of Huggin's indiscretions, but I wonder if 'fault' is the correct word for a President trying to run a University rather than a basketball factory?

2.  You can't recall the UM "Fab Five"?  (Which cost Michigan hugely to this day for the recruiting violations involved in assembling that group.)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on November 11, 2008, 12:33:23 AM
Huggins was charged with DUI, which led to his dismissal.  It is an offense he deserved some punishment for but after serving the university for 16 years, dismissal may have been a bit excessive. I also think his players didnt have a very good rate of graduation.

I do remember the fab five but I am younger than you think (I was about 10) and I wouldnt consider Jimmy King and Ray Jackson as elite professional level talent.  Webber, Howard, and Rose all have had good careers (the were respectively drafted #1, #5 and #13 in their respective drafts).  Beasley and Mayo were drafter #2 and #3 and Walker dropped to round 2 (he could have been first round without the injuries to his knees). All 3 of those guys were ranked top 5 in the 2007 recruiting class at some point.  They didnt have those types of rankings back in the late 80s, early 90s. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 11, 2008, 01:05:15 AM
Yeah, I think you're right on Huggin's DUI (I was thinking it was severe recruiting violations - was there some of that too?).  And I seem to recall (not sure where to look it up) that the graduation rate was well below not 'very good' - wasn't it something like 3 graduates in his entire tenure?  Huggins is obviously very good on the basketball front, but I'm not sure he has any place at an educational institution.

With vanishly small numbers of NBA players actually graduating from college, perhaps (alas) the Fab Five's accomplishment will be someday exceeded, but national runners-up with ALL starters being freshmen (then again as sophomores)?  And I believe that 4 of the 5 are now graduates of UM.  (Though not Chris Webber, perhaps the most academically-gifted of the lot, since he is persona non grata at UM for his role in the scandal.)

The first serious NCAA violations ever at UM - may they be the last.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 11, 2008, 01:35:09 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 11, 2008, 01:05:15 AM

The first serious NCAA violations ever at UM - may they be the last.

last......I hope so, first? ...........no

The baseball team was dinged in the late 80's for violations under Head coach Bud Middaugh...........which included holding tryouts for players, and a kickback scheme in which players pocketed money from football program sales among other violations, 43 in all.

Bud lost his job in disgrace which was a shame because he was heading for a hall of fame career, the kind of coach they name stadiums after.    Fisher-Middaugh Stadium was in the cards.

excerpt from an article on Barry Larkin........

But things quickly went from all-good to all-bad for the Wolverines. In the summer of 1989, shortly after Larkin, Sabo, Kamieniecki and Hal Morris left Michigan, the NCAA began to question how Michigan was able to land such stars.

Accusations swirled: Middaugh loaned players over $1,000. Middaugh cheated while recruiting.

The result? The NCAA found 43 rules violations and slapped the Michigan baseball program with two-year probation, the first time any Michigan team had ever been penalized by the NCAA for a rules violation. Middaugh resigned, and Michigan baseball hasn't been the same since.



It took years and more than couple head coaches for Michigan baseball to recover.  Its still not at the same level it was in the early 80's.  From 1975 to 1987 Michigan won 9 Big 10 titles and went to Omaha 4 times.  Since probation in 1990 Michigan has won just 3 titles, which includes the last 2 back-to-back.


Really old article from the Michigan Daily gives a bit of insight into what was happening at Michigan..........which was no different to anywhere else.  Article was written shortly before then AD Tom Goss was removed.

http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/1999/dec/12-13-99/news/news23.html
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 11, 2008, 02:20:00 AM
sac,

I had mercifully forgotten about that - thanks, Bud! :(  (I think it's because EMU was a college WS regular with Bob Owchinko and Bob Welch [among others] - no way was UM gonna be second best in Washtenaw County!)

But you're right - 2nd major violations.  UM is no longer pristine, but 2 in however many years the NCAA has existed still beats most major programs.

But it is bad enough that I'll get off my "holier-than-thou" high-horse.

[WOW, what thread is this?  Have we ever gotten off-track! :-[]
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 11, 2008, 08:20:24 AM
Waiting to confirm a report from a reliable poster on the ASC board.

Mississippi College 85, Alcorn St (D1 SWAC) 81 on Nov 10th.

Neither Alcorn St nor Miss College nor the Jackson MS Clarion-Ledger has a press release.

Alcorn did beat Louisiana College 92-69 last weekend.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 16, 2008, 02:03:50 PM
Scores from 11/15

Belhaven (NAIA 1) 76, Millsaps 57
Central 82, Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 41
Central Missouri (D2) 82, Westminster, MO 48
Eastern Connecticut 82, Berkeley, NJ (other) 61
East Texas Baptist 80, Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 79
Fisher (NAIA 2) 92, New England College 65
Huston Tillotson (NAIA 1) 116, Concordia-Austin 102
Indiana, PA (D2) 73, Thiel 43
Kean 68, Clarion (D2) 59
Kenyon 71, Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 59
Lamar (D1) 105, Louisiana College 72
Lewis and Clark 94, Corban (NAIA 2) 62
Lycoming 77, Penn State-Hazelton (USCAA) 46
Middlebury 60, Bloomsburg (D2) 59
Minnesota State Mankato (D2) 102, Monmouth 50
Mount Saint Mary 91, Berkeley, NYC (other) 50
Oswego State 116, SUNY-Canton (NAIA 2) 68
Richmond (D1) 81, Randolph-Macon 57
St. Michael's (D2) 78, Norwich 40
St. Vincent 126, Penn State-Fayette (USCAA) 39
Texas-Arlington (D1) 84, Hardin-Simmons 64
Texas-Pan American (D1) 84, Sul Ross State 59
UMBC (D1) 91, Stevenson 54
UW-Platteville 87, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 56
Virginia Intermont (NAIA 2) 103, Emory and Henry 85
Vorhees (NAIA 1) 50, Hapden-Sydney 49
Westfield State 118, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 70
Winona State (D2) 92, St. Mary's 66

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 16, 2008, 02:52:04 PM
+1 Rhodes!   :)

Your labor of love is one of my favorite sites on these boards.

Thanks for your hard work!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 16, 2008, 05:32:43 PM
Ralph: Thanks once again.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 17, 2008, 04:22:53 AM
It's not really basketball season until the first Rhodes nightly rundown is posted.

Thanks again, Rhodes!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 17, 2008, 11:20:31 AM
Greg: Thank you. Glad you enjoy it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 17, 2008, 11:25:21 AM
Scores from 11/16

Clarion (D2) 66, Redlands 65
Daniel Webster 86, Vaughn (other) 37
Hood 96, Penn State-Hazelton (USCAA) 79
Illinois Tech (NAIA 1) 70, Chicago 68
Johnson State 80, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 57
Marywood 82, Berkeley, NYC (other) 70
Mount Ida 88, Fisher (NAIA 2) 77
New Hampshire (D1) 101, Suffolk 50
Yeshiva 65, Berkeley, NJ (other) 48
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: elfinley on November 17, 2008, 02:37:57 PM
From 11/6:

Sacramento State(D1) 63, Chapman University 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: d3hero on November 17, 2008, 02:42:07 PM
Purchase College defeated D2 Nyack College in an exhibition game so add that to the list.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 18, 2008, 11:11:33 AM
Scores from 11/17

Alfred 80, Penn State-Wilkes Barre (USCAA) 49
Coe 65, Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 64
Emory and Henry 88, Virginia-Wise (NAIA 2) 75
Maine Maritime 96, Maine-Augusta (USCAA) 53
North Carolina Wesleyan 107, Roanoke Bible (other) 71
Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 91, Franciscan 74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 19, 2008, 10:25:11 AM
Scores from 11/18

Central 66, Graceland (NAIA 2) 62
Greenville 86, St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA 2) 54
Heidelberg 79, Tiffin (D2) 68
Incarnate Word (D2) 106, Howard Payne 74
Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 63, Texas-Tyler 57
Keuka 79, SUNY-Canton (NAIA 2) 52
Martin Luther 71, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 62
Northwest, WA (NAIA 2) 72, George Fox 64
Northwestern State (D1) 87, East Texas Baptist 65
Ouachita Baptist (D2) 83, LeTourneau 70
Penn State-Harrisburg 83, Penn State-Mont Alto (USCAA) 64
Radford (D1) 86, Bridgewater, Va 46
Rust 122, Blue Mountain (NAIA 1) 118
SUNYIT 83, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 43
Wilkes 98, Penn Tech (USCAA) 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 20, 2008, 10:16:01 AM
Scores from 11/19

Centenary 73, Berkeley, NJ (other) 47
Central Missouri (D2) 80, Monmouth 47
Colby 93, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 66
Concordia, CA (NAIA 1) 93, Pomona-Pitzer 48
Concordia, WI 67, Silver Lake (USCAA) 62
Eastern Illinois (D1) 82, Manchester 53
Franciscan, OH 91, Penn State-Kensington (USCAA) 60
Olivet 68, Aquinas (NAIA 2) 67
San Francisco State (D2) 76, UC Santa Cruz 63
West Alabama (D2) 75, Huntingdon 61
Western Illinois (D1) 75, Eureka 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 21, 2008, 11:15:48 AM
Scores from 11/20

Hope 74, IU-South Bend (NAIA 1) 69
Northwest, WA (NAIA 2) 78, Pacific 72
Puget Sound 95, Corban (NAIA 2) 84
VMI (D1) 133, Stevenson 72
William Woods (NAIA 1) 85, Principia 51
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2008, 02:15:06 PM
Scores from 11/21

Adams State (D2) 85, Colorado College 72
Adrian 79, Marygrove (NAIA 2) 70 (OT)
Cal Maritime (NAIA 2) 82, Maine Maritime 46
Calvin 82, Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 49
Colorado Christian (D2) 78, Dickinson 69
Daniel Webster 114, Hampshire (other) 32
Fontbonne 92, Waldorf (NAIA 2) 80
Goshen (NAIA 2) 75, Denison 62
Grinnell 134, Baptist Bible College (NCCAA 2) 98
Illinois Wesleyan 90, Taylor-Fort Wayne (UCAAA) 70
Keene State 83, Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 61
Marywood 78, Penn State-Hazelton (USCAA) 62
McDaniel 100, Penn State-York (USCAA) 55
Michigan Tech (D2) 66, Alma 46
Mount Union 76, Penn State-New Kensington (USCAA) 40
Mount Vernon Nazarene (NAIA 2) 99, St. Mary's, MN 59
Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 79, Olivet 70
Potsdam State 99, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 50
Randolph 88, Christendom (USCAA) 71
Rhodes 79, Rhema (USCAA) 74
Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 66, Baldwin-Wallace 61
St. Vincent 83, Penn State-Du Bois (USCAA) 61
SUNYIT 99, Albany Pharmacy (other) 58
Susquehanna 70, Penn College (USCAA) 61
Widener 106, Penn State-Delaware County (USCAA) 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2008, 03:20:29 PM
Scores from 11/22

Apprentice (USCAA) 79, Greensboro 77
Baptist Bible 82, Penn State-Hazelton (USCAA) 68
Buena Vista 86, Dordt (NAIA 2) 66
Calvin 71, Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 61
Chadron State (D2) 82, Colorado College 61
Christopher Newport 86, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 70
Davenport (NAIA 2) 85, Eastern Mennonite 74
Defiance 78, Madonna (NAIA 2) 67
Fontbonne 70, Moody Bible (NCCAA 2) 66
Goshen (NAIA 2) 68, Hanover 62
Grinnell 138, Manhattan Christian (NCCAA 2) 101
Hope 70, Trinity Christian (NAIA 2) 65
Kalamazoo 78, Taylor-Fort Wayne (USCAA) 60
Lehman 75, Albany Pharmacy (other) 54
Loyola, LA (NAIA 1) 57, Millsaps 54
Marietta 86, Marygrove (NAIA 2) 67
Northern Michigan (D2) 80, Alma 48
Olivet 72, Andrews (USCAA) 49
Texas A&M-Kingsville (D2) 82, Texas Lutheran 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: fcnews on November 23, 2008, 03:24:01 PM
RS - Thanks a lot for all your hard work. One of my favorite stops on this site. +1K
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2008, 04:33:11 PM
Quote from: fcnews on November 23, 2008, 03:24:01 PM
RS - Thanks a lot for all your hard work. One of my favorite stops on this site. +1K
Thank you. Glad you enjoy it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2008, 04:35:53 PM
Totals through 11/22

D3 vs.

D1....0-11
D2....3-17
NAIA 1....3-7
NAIA 2....25-11
NCCAA 1....0-0
NCCAA 2....5-0
USCAA....22-2
Other....10-0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 24, 2008, 09:48:27 AM
Scores from 11/23

Albion 77, Madonna (NAIA 2) 64
Averett 89, Apprentice (USCAA) 80
Davenport (NAIA 2) 71, Bridgewater, VA 61
Pacific Union (NAIA 2) 75, Whittier 71
Southeastern Bible (NCCAA 2) 104, Huntingdon 90
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 25, 2008, 11:45:31 AM
Scores from 11/24

Cal Baptist (NAIA 1) 87, La Sierra 72
Concordia-Selma (USCAA) 96, Concordia-Austin 84
Gallaudet 80, Christendom (USCAA) 54
Hofstra (D1) 68, SUNY-Old Westbury 50
Kalamazoo 78, Marygrove (NAIA 2) 72
Maranatha Baptist 74, Emmaus (NCCAA 2) 51
Mt. Mercy (NAIA 2) 76, Dubuque 70
Northern Michigan (D2) 88, Finlandia 67
Northwest Christian (NAIA 2) 72, Linfield 70
Occidental 76, West Coast Baptist (other) 61
West Liberty State (D2) 99, Bethany 74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: d3hero on November 25, 2008, 03:33:18 PM
Didn't Bradley (D1) lose to a D3 school?  So that would mean the D3's are 1-10 against D1's, not 0-11...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 25, 2008, 03:36:27 PM
Quote from: d3hero on November 25, 2008, 03:33:18 PM
Didn't Bradley (D1) lose to a D3 school?  So that would mean the D3's are 1-10 against D1's, not 0-11...

That was an exhibition game; not included in these tallies.  (d1 George Mason also dropped an exhibition game.)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 26, 2008, 12:59:05 PM
Scores from 11/25

Asbury (NAIA 2) 87, Philadelphia Bible 78
Azusa Pacific (NAIA 1) 79, La Verne 70
Bethany 83, Ohio-Eastern (other) 58
Biola (NAIA 1) 54, Whittier 46
Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 75, Alma 63
Concordia, OR (NAIA 2) 92, Linfield 82 (OT)
Eastern 71, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 66
Eastern Kentucky (D1) 91, Thiel 43
Emory and Henry 101, Virginia Intermont (NAIA 2) 86
Ferris State (D2) 87, Olivet 76
Fontbonne 107, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 70
Lewis and Clark 73, Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 61
Lycoming 78, Penn Tech (USCAA) 56
Marywood 99, Penn State-Scranton (USCAA) 67
Minnesota Duluth (D2) 81, UW-Superior 76 (OT)
Nebraska Wesleyan 56, Doane (NAIA 2) 42
Pacific Lutheran 111, Walla Walla (USCAA) 76
Principia 83, St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA 2) 60
Regis, CO (D2) 80, Colorado College 55
SIU Edwardsville (D1) 106, Blackburn 53
Southern Virginia (USCAA) 82, Bridgewater, VA 78
Texas-Arlington (D1) 99, Texas-Tyler 67
UC Riverside (D1) 62, Occidental 34
University of the Ozarks 91, Rhema (USCAA) 58
UW-La Crosse 73, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 26, 2008, 01:16:38 PM
Totals through 11/25

D3 vs.

D1....0-15
D2....3-22
NAIA 1....3-10
NAIA 2....32-18
NCCAA 1....0-0
NCCAA 2....8-1
USCAA....28-4
Other....12-0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 01, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
Scores from 11/26

Carthage 82, Silver Lake (USCAA) 60
Hawaii Pacific (D2) 82, Pacific 78
Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) 96, UC Santa Cruz 48
Westmont (NAIA 1) 84, Texas Lutheran 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 01, 2008, 12:51:33 PM
Scores from 11/28

Aquinas (NAIA 2) 78, Calvin 73
Anderson 92, Miami-Middletown (other) 83
Carleton 80, Western New Mexico (D2) 70
Dordt (NAIA 2) 92, UW-Eau Claire 74
Drury (D2) 69, Maryville, MO 66
Hope 82, Cornerstone (NAIA 2) 74
Puget Sound 76, Dominican, CA (NAIA 2) 64
Winona State (D2) 89, Augsburg 48
Wittenberg 70, Concordia, OR (NAIA 2) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2008, 12:21:40 PM
Scores from 11/29

Aurora 84, Miami-Middletown (other) 73
Bethany 112, Penn State-Fayette (USCAA) 31
Calvin 85, Cornerstone (NAIA 2) 82
Concordia, OR (NAIA 2) 85, Concordia-Moorhead 70
Dordt (NAIA 2) 68, UW-Oshkosh 64
Dubuque 73, Holy Cross, IN (NAIA 2) 57
Gallaudet 95, Penn State-York (USCAA) 83
Indiana-Southeast (NAIA 2) 81, Hanover 76
Lewis and Clark 90, Portland Bible (other) 61
Linfield 89, Western Oregon (NAIA 2) 74
Maryland Bible (other) 78, Penn State-Berks 55
Mayville State (NAIA 2) 82, Minnesota-Morris 78
Michigan Tech (D2) 81, Finlandia 58
Minnesota-Crookston (D2) 82, Wartburg 63
Minnesota State Mankato (D2) 84, Bethany Lutheran 45
Puget Sound 82, Cal Maritime (NAIA 2) 70
Rust 86, Wesley, MS (other) 71
Seton Hill (D2) 82, Pitt-Greensburg 75
UW-Eau Claire 82, Clarke (NAIA 2) 75
UW-River Falls 66, Sioux Falls (NAIA 2) 59
Western State (D2) 77, Colorado College 70
Westminster, MO 86, Asbury (NAIA 2) 71
Winona State (D2) 75, Gustavus Adolphus 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2008, 12:46:52 PM
Totals through 11/29

D3 vs.

D1....0-15
D2....4-31
NAIA 1....3-12
NAIA 2....42-24
NCCAA 1....0-0
NCCAA 2....8-1
USCAA....31-4
Other....16-1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2008, 01:18:49 PM
Scores from 11/30

Ashford (NAIA 2) 91, Rockford 86
Blackburn 89, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 87
Clarkson 86, SUNY-Canton (NAIA 2) 50
Cornell 60, Mount Mercy (NAIA 2) 56
Edinboro (D2) 78, Thiel 69
Gallaudet 72, Maryland Bible (other) 69
Penn State-Berks 89, Penn State-York (USCAA) 77
RPI 83, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 66
UW-Platteville 92, Indiana-Southeast (NAIA 2) 73
UW-Stout 68, Minnesota-Crookston (D2) 63
Wilmington 110, Oakland City (NCCAA 1) 86
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2008, 11:05:59 AM
Scores from 12/1

Augustana 89, St. Ambrose (NAIA 2) 61
Austin 72, Dallas Christian (NCCAA 2) 51
Carleton 74, Chaminade (D2) 69
Centre 74, Berea (NAIA 2) 44
Emory and Henry 107, Virginia-Wise (USCAA) 97
Loras 70, Clarke (NAIA 2) 65
Mayville State (NAIA 2) 92, Minnesota-Morris 73
Richard Stockton 100, Penn State-Abington (USCAA) 51
Rutgers-Camden 72, Berkeley, NJ (other) 36
St. Joseph's, Brooklyn 82, Pratt (other) 46
St. Vincent 78, Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 75 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: dansand on December 03, 2008, 12:21:02 PM
Out of curiosity, I added up the totals for the last four seasons entering the 2008-09 season. This is what I come up with:

D3 vs.

D1............. 6-203, .029
D2............58-244, .192
NAIA 1..... 77-128, .376
NAIA 2.... 397-387, .506
NCCAA.... 235-59,   .799
USCAA.... 253-74,   .774
Other...... 160-27,   .856

Great work Rhodes Scholar.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2008, 12:35:50 PM
dansand: I'm glad you're interested in this topic and thanks for your input as well.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2008, 12:44:09 PM
Scores from 12/2

Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 71, Trine 61
George Fox 78, Northwest Christian (NAIA 2) 76
Johnson and Wales (NAIA 2) 78, Colorado College 48
Johnson State 76, Vermont Tech (USCAA) 74
Maine Maritime 109, Unity (USCAA) 26
Nebraska Wesleyan 72, Dana (NAIA 2) 70 (OT)
Olivet Nazarene (NAIA 1) 76, Illinois Wesleyan 63
Pacific 81, Portland Bible (other) 68
Pacific Lutheran 84, Cascade (NAIA 2) 83
RPI 98, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 67
The Master's (NAIA 1) 88, Pomona-Pitzer 56
Warner Pacific (NAIA 2) 73, Linfield 71

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2008, 12:58:51 PM
Totals through 12/2

D3 vs.

D1....0-16
D2....6-32
NAIA 1....3-14
NAIA 2....54-29
NCCAA 1....1-0
NCCAA 2....9-1
USCAA....37-4
Other....20-1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on December 03, 2008, 10:39:01 PM
D3 Maryville (TN) 95 - D2 Carson-Newman 91
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 04, 2008, 11:35:31 AM
Thanks for the score. This year I'm going to put all the scores given by others in my list of scores, simply because it's easier for me to do the totals.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 04, 2008, 11:42:51 AM
Scores from 12/3

Elizabethtown 70, Millersville (D2) 65
Gannon (D2) 82, Allegheny 55
Green Mountain 95, Paul Smith (NAIA 2) 45
MacMurray 104, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 76
Maryville, TN 95, Carson-Newman (D2) 91
Sienna Heights (NAIA 2) 78, Adrian 71
UW-River Falls 64, Viterbo 53 (NAIA 2)
Wesleyan 79, Fisher (NAIA 2) 71
Widener 88, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 04, 2008, 10:18:15 PM
We're off the schneid vs. d1 - Millikin (picked dead-last in the CCIW) has just knocked off SIU-Edwardsville. :D

Final score: Big Blue 70, Very Blue 59.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on December 05, 2008, 10:44:54 AM
The Maryville-Carson-Newman rivalry is an interesting example of the potentially good dynamics of a D3-D2 game.  Both schools are in the Knoxville, TN, area though neither is in Knoxville.  The schools recruit from the same high school base and a lot of the players know each other.  So when Maryville wins (again, I might add), it sometimes makes a splash in the Knoxville press, which only occasionally pays much attention to the schools' basketball (mostly when Maryville goes to the NCAA tournament)

For instance:
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=5&id=2741
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 05, 2008, 03:50:21 PM
Scores from 12/4

Claremont-Mudd Scripps 75, Southwestern, AZ (NCCAA 2) 48
Maine (D1) 126, Maine-Presque Isle 50
Millikin 70, SIU-Edwardsville (D1) 59
Maranatha Baptist 80, Great Lakes Christian (NCCAA 2) 50
St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 77, Lyndon State 66
SUNY-Maritime 95, Berkeley, NJ (other) 61
Warner Pacific (NAIA 2) 98, Puget Sound 96
Whitworth 85, Cal State East Bay (NAIA 2) 80
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 05, 2008, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 04, 2008, 10:18:15 PM
We're off the schneid vs. d1 - Millikin (picked dead-last in the CCIW) has just knocked off SIU-Edwardsville. :D

Final score: Big Blue 70, Very Blue 59.

As was noted on the front page of the site, SIU-Edwardsville is a first-year D1 provisional so the win is somewhat diminished. SIU-Edwardsville led by nine at the half, but was outscored by 20 points in the second half. The 11-point margin of victory might be the largest against a D1 opponent in the history of this site.
Going into the game, SIU-Edwardsville was 2-5 with one win coming against D3 Blackburn and the other against Western Michigan.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 05, 2008, 04:28:17 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 05, 2008, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 04, 2008, 10:18:15 PM
We're off the schneid vs. d1 - Millikin (picked dead-last in the CCIW) has just knocked off SIU-Edwardsville. :D

Final score: Big Blue 70, Very Blue 59.

As was noted on the front page of the site, SIU-Edwardsville is a first-year D1 provisional so the win is somewhat diminished. SIU-Edwardsville led by nine at the half, but was outscored by 20 points in the second half. The 11-point margin of victory might be the largest against a D1 opponent in the history of this site.
Going into the game, SIU-Edwardsville was 2-5 with one win coming against D3 Blackburn and the other against Western Michigan.

Yeah, I have no illusions that SIUE is a good (or even decent) d1 - I suspect they'd finish in the bottom half of the CCIW this year.  Still, a d1 is a d1 on the tallies! ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 06, 2008, 02:35:31 PM
Scores from 12/5

Colby 111, Maine-Augusta (NAIA 2) 40
Davis (other) 89, Philadelphia Bible 71
Eastern Mennonite 84, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 81
Indiana-Northwest (NAIA 2) 87, Trine 84
Maranatha Baptist 87, Kuyper (NCCAA 2) 71
Maryland Bible (other) 64, Christopher Newport 61
Michigan-Dearborn (NAIA 2) 73, Alma 64
Mount Ida 62, Fisher (NAIA 2) 51
Olivet 70, Madonna (NAIA 2) 66
Pomona-Pitzer 68, West Coast Baptist (other) 39
University of New England 96, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 85
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 67, D'Youville 63
Williamette 92, Menlo (NAIA 2) 79
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 06, 2008, 03:03:29 PM
Totals through 12/5

D3 vs.

D1....1-17
D2....8-33
NAIA 1....3-14
NAIA 2....63-34
NCCAA 1....1-0
NCCAA 2....13-2
USCAA....39-4
Other....22-3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 07, 2008, 01:37:13 PM
Scores from 12/6

Briar Cliff (NAIA 2) 85, Neb Wesleyan 77
Ferrum 66, Davis & Elkins (D2) 63
Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 71, Maranatha Baptist 60
Kutztown (D2) 90, Penn State-Berks 49
Madonna (NAIA 2) 71, Alma 61
Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 73, Maine Maritime 59
North Park 95, Indiana-Northwest (NAIA 2) 80
Norwich 73, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 51
Olivet 83, Michigan-Dearborn (NAIA 2) 73
Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 70, Albion 60
St. Martins (D2) 83, Puget Sound 78
Cedarville (NAIA 2) 80, Wittenberg 53

EDIT by dc to add Cedarville/Witt score
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 07, 2008, 05:18:04 PM
DC: Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 08, 2008, 01:09:09 PM
Scores from 12/7

Stony Brook (D1) 95, Mount Ida 40
Worcester State 87, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 79
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OC_SID on December 08, 2008, 07:32:09 PM
Forgot Olivet's 83-73 win over Mich-Dearborn on 12/6 ... Also Madonna beat Alma on 12/6 ... I don't recall the score!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 09, 2008, 10:05:10 AM
OC_SID: Thanks for the scores.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 09, 2008, 10:19:44 AM
Scores from 12/8

Arcadia 82, Penn State-Hazelton (USCAA) 77
Biola (NAIA 1) 67, Pomona-Pitzer 56
Jarvis Christian (NAIA 1) 70, Texas-Tyler 59
Lake Superior State (D2) 85, Finlandia 56
New Jersey City 80, Berkeley, NJ (other) 46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on December 09, 2008, 03:37:00 PM
Thanks again for all your work Rhodes!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2008, 10:02:52 AM
LogShow: Glad you like the topic.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 10, 2008, 10:08:31 AM
Scores from 12/9

Concordia, MO (other) 66, Principia 63
Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 65, Presentation 64
Goucher 58, Maryland Bible (other) 54
Grace, IN (NAIA 2) 74, Manchester 64
Greenville 79, Logan Chiropractic (other) 66
Martin Luther 80, Mayville State (NAIA 2) 68
Nichols 68, Fisher (NAIA 2) 66
Portland State (D1) 77, Lewis and Clark 66
Redlands 71, West Coast Baptist (other) 59
Skidmore 105, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 54
Texas-Dallas 79, Southwest Assemblies of God (NAIA 1) 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 11, 2008, 10:26:54 AM
Scores from 12/10

Aquinas (NAIA 2) 78, Calvin 63
Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 47, Nebraska Wesleyan 40
DePauw 103, Purdue-North Central (NAIA 2) 55
Green Mountain 64, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 59
Jamestown (NAIA 2) 79, Minnesota-Morris 73
McNeese State (D1) 88, Louisiana College 59
Montclair State 80, Berkeley, NJ (other) 40
Northwestern Ohio (NAIA 2) 75, Trine 48
SUNY-Cobleskill 95, Albany Pharmacy (other) 76
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 81, Penn State-Harrisburg 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 12, 2008, 01:20:15 PM
Totals through 12/10

D3 vs.

D1....1-20
D2....9-36
NAIA 1....4-16
NAIA 2....72-44
NCCAA 1....1-0
NCCAA 2....13-5
USCAA....40-4
Other....28-4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 12, 2008, 01:29:03 PM
Scores from 12/11

Allegheny 84, Penn State-New Kensington (USCAA) 42
Greenville 95, Concordia, MO (other) 58
Piedmont 110, Southeastern Bible (NCCAA 2) 89
Western New England 72, Fisher (NAIA 2) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 13, 2008, 01:08:42 PM
Scores from 12/12

Dubuque 85, Silver Lake (USCAA) 32
Evergreen State (NAIA 2) 90, Linfield 82
Hope 78, Grace Bible, MI (NCCAA 2) 64
La Verne 70, Johnson & Wales, CO  (NAIA 2) 61
Olivet Nazarene (NAIA 1) 87, Carthage 73
Rochester Tech 89, Houghton (NAIA 2) 73
Rowan 99, Berkeley, NJ (other) 45
South Dakota Tech (NAIA 2) 72, Presentation 48
Spring Arbor (NAIA 2) 67, Olivet 63
Wabash 80, St. Joseph's, IN (NAIA 2) 77
Williamette 79, Corban (NAIA 2) 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 14, 2008, 01:39:02 PM
Scores from 12/13

Birmingham Southern 90, Southeastern Bible (NCCAA 2) 79
Black Hills State (NAIA 2) 86, Presentation 72
Buena Vista 66, Grand View (NAIA 2) 59
Corban (NAIA 2) 70, Linfield 67
Davenport (NAIA 2) 73, Trine 64
Ecclesia (NCCAA 1) 76, University of the Ozarks 72
Green Mountain 79, Vermont Tech (USCAA) 64
Hope 65, Marygrove (NAIA 2) 49
Hope International (NAIA 1) 74, Pomona-Pitzer 68
Louisiana-Lafayette (D1) 85, Louisiana College 58
Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 87, Maine Maritime 76
Marian, IN (NAIA 2) 74, Wabash 62
Mount Vernon Nazarene (NAIA 2) 88, Kenyon 53
Northwest, WA (NAIA 2) 76, George Fox 64
Northwest Christian (NAIA 2) 69, Pacific 62
St. Martin's (D2) 99, Pacific Lutheran 77
Thomas 72, Fisher (NAIA 2) 63
Trinity Christian (NAIA 2) 73, Calvin 65
Waldorf (NAIA 2) 117, Grinnell 106
Westfield State 70, Houghton (NAIA 2) 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OxyBob on December 14, 2008, 01:51:30 PM
Another score from 12/13:

Hope International 74 (NAIA 1), Pomona-Pitzer 68

OxyBob
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 14, 2008, 02:00:23 PM
OxyBob: Thanks for the score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 15, 2008, 12:03:21 PM
Totals through 12/13

D3 vs.

D1....1-21
D2....9-37
NAIA 1....4-18
NAIA 2....81-57
NCCAA 1....1-1
NCCAA 2....16-5
USCAA....43-4
Other....30-4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 15, 2008, 12:09:27 PM
Score from 12/14

Dartmouth (D1) 96, Plymouth State 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 16, 2008, 10:23:26 AM
Scores from 12/15

Buena Vista 82, Clarke (NAIA 2) 71
Gallaudet 103, Johnson Bible (NCCAA 2) 74
Simpson 63, Grand View (NAIA 2) 62
Virginia Wesleyan 84, Apprentice (USCAA) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 17, 2008, 10:31:59 AM
Scores from 12/16

Dominican 83, Johnson & Wales, FL (NAIA 2) 81
Pacific 92, Concordia, OR (NAIA 2) 89
Southeastern Louisiana (D1) 81, Millsaps 56
Whitworth 89, Red Deer (other) 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2008, 10:12:39 AM
Scores from 12/17

Dubuque 76, Clarke (NAIA 2) 67
Mount St. Joseph 78, Cincinnati Christian (NCCAA 1) 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2008, 10:20:43 AM
Totals through 12/17

D3 vs.

D1....1-23
D2....9-37
NAIA 1....4-18
NAIA 2....86-57
NCCAA 1....2-1
NCCAA 2....17-5
USCAA....44-4
Other....31-4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2008, 02:31:57 PM
Scores from 12/18

Blackburn 75, Concordia, MO (other) 64
Capital 77, Ohio Dominican (NAIA 2) 63
Concordia-St. Paul (D2) 88, Northwestern, MN 84
Dakota Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 94, Presentation 69
Hendrix 83, Central Baptist (NCCAA 1) 76 (OT)
Minnesota State Mankato (D2) 107, MacMurray 73
St. Thomas, FL (NAIA 2) 78, Dominican 65
UW-Whitewater 90, Cardinal Stritch (NAIA 2) 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2008, 01:20:23 PM
Scores from 12/19

Cal Baptist (NAIA 1) 89, St. Vincent 85 (OT)
Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 72, Blackburn 62
Hawaii-Hilo (D2) 90, Wooster 77
Walsh (NAIA 2) 79, Wentworth 55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OxyBob on December 21, 2008, 11:59:12 AM
From 12/20, two more scores for your list:

Cal State LA (D2) 77, La Verne 66
Concordia-Irvine (NAIA 1) 95, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 74

OxyBob
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 21, 2008, 03:05:43 PM
OxyBob: Thanks once again for the scores.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 21, 2008, 03:11:15 PM
Scores from 12/20

Aquinas (NAIA 2) 62, Hope 57
Cal State LA (D2) 77, La Verne 66
Concordia-Irvine (NAIA 1) 95, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 74
Gardner-Webb (D1) 85, Ferrum 51
Hampden-Sydney 57, Maryland Bible (other) 54
Indiana State (D1) 66, DePauw 60
Southern Indiana (D2) 92, Maryville, MO 55
UW-River Falls 82, Bemidji State (D2) 77
Wilkes 97, Penn State-Hazelton (USCAA) 73
William & Mary (D1) 83, Haverford 50
Winston-Salem (D1) 68, Averett 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OxyBob on December 21, 2008, 07:52:31 PM
Score from 12/21:

Cal Lutheran 63, Fisher College (MA) (NAIA 2) 54

OxyBob
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2008, 10:20:48 AM
OxyBob: Thanks again.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2008, 10:23:24 AM
Scores from 12/21

Cal Lutheran 63, Fisher College, MA (NAIA 2) 54
Hawaii Hilo (D2) 98, Illinois College 72
Hawaii Pacific (D2) 79, Coe 72
UW-Stout 70, College of the Ozarks (NAIA 2) 64 (OT)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 23, 2008, 11:52:15 AM
Scores from 12/22

Berea (NAIA 2) 85, Transylvannia 80 (OT)
Notre Dame, OH (NAIA 2) 99, Waynesburg 71
Occidental 73, Fisher (NAIA 2) 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 23, 2008, 11:59:41 AM
Totals through 12/22

D3 vs.

D1....1-27
D2....10-44
NAIA 1....5-20
NAIA 2....91-63
NCCAA 1....3-1
NCCAA 2....17-5
USCAA....45-5
Other....33-4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: T990 on December 29, 2008, 10:31:54 AM
Dec. 28:

at Harvard (D1)  94

Daniel Webster  51

http://www.gocrimson.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=41123&SPID=3681&DB_OEM_ID=9000&ATCLID=3637794

http://www.d3hoops.com/school/DWEB/mens/2009
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 29, 2008, 11:55:25 AM
T990: Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 29, 2008, 11:57:09 AM
Scores from 12/27

Incarnate Word (D2) 93, Howard Payne 67
Radford (D1) 104, Shenandoah 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 29, 2008, 11:58:27 AM
Scores from 12/28

Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 86, Concordia, WI 62
Harvard (D1) 94, Daniel Webster 51
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 30, 2008, 11:31:45 AM
Scores from 12/29

Brevard (D2) 89, Emory and Henry 73
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 96, Fitchburg State 80
George Fox 80, Corban (NAIA 2) 74
Hope 94, Davenport (NAIA 2) 61
Northern Michigan (D2) 80, Northland 38
Ripon 64, Queens, Ontario (other) 54
St. Xavier (NAIA 1) 74, Illinois Wesleyan 72
Taylor, IN (NAIA 2) 58, Wittenberg 56
UW-La Crosse 95, Dakota Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 63
Viterbo (NAIA 2) 81, Bethany Lutheran 66
Warner Pacific (NAIA 2) 87, Whitman 67
Wartburg 74, Jamestown (NAIA 2) 68
Westmont (NAIA 1) 76, Messiah 61
Williamette 95, Southern Oregon (NAIA 2) 81
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: pabegg on December 30, 2008, 11:47:20 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 30, 2008, 11:31:45 AM
Scores from 12/29

Wilmington 89, Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 58
I'm not sure that Clermont should count as they are a D3 provisional this year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 30, 2008, 01:08:37 PM
pabegg: Thanks for the info. I'll make some corrections.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on December 30, 2008, 09:57:36 PM
Rhodes, here is a game from early in the year that I don't think is being counted in the NAIA I wins column...

Hope 74
IU-South Bend 69
(11/20)

http://www.hope.edu/pr/athletics/winter.html#mbball
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OxyBob on December 31, 2008, 01:56:46 PM
Score from 12/30:

Point Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) 81, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 74

SCIAC falls to 0-8 against the GSAC. Rats.

Chapman has two more shots at them in February.

OxyBob
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OC_SID on January 01, 2009, 12:18:19 PM
Score from 12/30:

Northwood, Mich. (D2) 84, Olivet 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 02, 2009, 11:16:11 AM
Titan Q, OxyBob, and OC_SID: Thanks for the scores.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 02, 2009, 11:33:12 AM
Scores from 12/30

Bluffton 82, Wright State-Lake (other) 67
Glenville State (D2) 97, Waynesburg 68
Grove City 74, Ohio State Lima (other) 42
Illinois Wesleyan 82, Missouri Baptist (NAIA 1) 73
Loras 69, Ashford (NAIA 2) 60
Marietta 76, Brevard (D2) 72
Minnesota Duluth (D2) 100, Northland 66
Northwestern, MN 65, Jamestown (NAIA 2) 56
Northwood (D2) 84, Olivet 66
Prairie View A&M (D1) 60, Schreiner 42
Queens, Ontario (other) 70, Messiah 64
South Dakota (D1) 77, St. Olaf 61
St. Cloud State (D2) 82, St. Mary's, MN 56
St. Loma Nazarene (NAIA 1) 81, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 74
St. Thomas 72, Concordia-St. Paul (D2) 69 (OT)
Texas State (D1) 112, McMurry 70
Valparaiso (D1) 78, North Park 47
Westmont (NAIA 1) 80, Ripon 38
Wheaton, IL 62, Taylor, IN (NAIA 2) 46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 02, 2009, 11:44:19 AM
Score from 1/1

Abilene Christian (D2) 99, Howard Payne 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2009, 07:59:41 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 02, 2009, 11:33:12 AM
South Dakota (D2) 77, St. Olaf 61

South Dakota's a D1 school now.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: T990 on January 03, 2009, 12:10:14 AM
NOTE:  Upcoming game Saturday at 2PM: MIT at Yale (D1).

Links for free live ***video*** and live stats here, if you are interested:

javascript:window.open('http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=yale&media=84808','VideoBroadcast','toolbar=no,resizeable=no,scrollbars=no,width=1000,height=746'); void('');

javascript:window.open('http://yalebulldogs.cstv.com/gametracker/launch/?event=685952&school=yale&sport=mbaskbl&','GameTrackermbaskbl','toolbar=no,resizeable=no,scrollbars=no,width=976,height=700'); void('');

http://yalebulldogs.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/010109aad.html

FREE VIDEO STREAMS ON YALEBULLDOGS.COM
Free live video is available for all Yale home games that aren't televised. Fans can access the games at yalebulldogs.com by clicking on the Yale All*Access logo in the top right corner. An e-mail address and password are required to subscribe to the service. WYBC (1340 AM) provides audio.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on January 03, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: T990 on January 03, 2009, 12:10:14 AM
NOTE:  Upcoming game Saturday at 2PM: MIT at Yale (D1).

Links for free live ***video*** and live stats here, if you are interested:

javascript:window.open('http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=yale&media=84808','VideoBroadcast','toolbar=no,resizeable=no,scrollbars=no,width=1000,height=746'); void('');

javascript:window.open('http://yalebulldogs.cstv.com/gametracker/launch/?event=685952&school=yale&sport=mbaskbl&','GameTrackermbaskbl','toolbar=no,resizeable=no,scrollbars=no,width=976,height=700'); void('');

http://yalebulldogs.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/010109aad.html

FREE VIDEO STREAMS ON YALEBULLDOGS.COM
Free live video is available for all Yale home games that aren't televised. Fans can access the games at yalebulldogs.com by clicking on the Yale All*Access logo in the top right corner. An e-mail address and password are required to subscribe to the service. WYBC (1340 AM) provides audio.

MIT played well in my opinion. They end up losing by 23, though, but it was pretty close for most of the game (it was still a 10 point game with 14 minutes left in the second half).  Yale just had too much size and depth (MIT really only has a 7 man rotation and no true big men). Jimmy Bartolotta put up 32 points (he had nearly 20 points more than anyone else in the game), as well as 3 blocks, 3 steals, and 2 assists.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 03, 2009, 08:38:20 PM
Dec 30
D-1 Prairie View A&M 60, Schreiner 42 (http://www.swac.org/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/123108aaa.html)

Jan 2

NAIA-1 Wiley 84, ETBU 79 (http://www.marshallnewsmessenger.com/sports/content/sports/stories/2008/010309_web_etbubb_spo.html)

Jan 3

Miss College 89, Wesley (Mississippi) 77 (http://www.ascsports.org/schedules.asp?id=298&path=mbball)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: T990 on January 04, 2009, 11:22:17 PM
Cornell (D1) 99

Ursinus 45

http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20090104/BLOGS04/301040005/1002/rss
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2009, 11:29:14 AM
Greg, T990, hugenerd, and Ralph: Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on January 05, 2009, 11:45:39 AM
Jan. 3  Maryville (TN) D3 90 - Bryan College (TN) NAIA 85, in OT
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2009, 11:53:14 AM
scottiedoug: Thanks for the score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2009, 11:55:39 AM
Scores from 1/2

Eastern Connecticut 87, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 84 (OT)
Northwood, FL (NAIA 2) 81, Emmanuel 72
Roanoke 106, Penn State-Abington (USCAA) 55
Wiley (NAIA 1) 84, East Texas Baptist 79
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2009, 12:03:27 PM
Scores from 1/3

Baruch 77, Covenant (NAIA 2) 51
Biola (NAIA 1) 67, Redlands 47
Christopher Newport 72, Maryland Bible (other) 59
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 98, Wisconsin Lutheran 77
Emmanuel 74, Palm Beach Atlantic (NAIA 2) 72
Greensboro 92, Penn State-Abington (USCAA) 52
Louisiana College 80, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 61
Maryville, TN 90, Bryan (NAIA 2) 85
Mississippi College 89, Wesley, MS (NCCAA 2) 77
Morningside (NAIA 2) 73, Nebraska Wesleyan 54
Suffolk 67, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 63
Texas State (D1) 98, Schreiner 57
Western New Mexico (D2) 114, Sul Ross State 86
William Jewell (NAIA 2) 83, Wesley 77
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2009, 12:10:04 PM
Score from 1/4

Millikin 55, Maryland Bible (other) 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 05, 2009, 12:41:34 PM
Totals through 1/4

D3 vs.

D1....1-34
D2....12-53
NAIA 1....6-26
NAIA 2....104-72
NCCAA 1....4-1
NCCAA 2....18-5
USCAA....47-5
Other....38-5
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 05, 2009, 11:26:49 PM
at D2 Southern Ark 66, LeTU 63 (http://www.saumag.edu/athletics/content/basketball/archive/2008-2009/saum12.htm)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 06, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Ralph: Thanks for the score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 06, 2009, 11:38:38 AM
Scores from 1/5

Carthage 71, Trinity International (NAIA 2) 67
Mississippi College 68, Belhaven (NAIA 1) 65
North Carolina Wesleyan 104, Penn State-Brandywine (USCAA) 60
Piedmont 83, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 75
Rowan 78, Penn State-York (USCAA) 62
Southern Arkansas (D2) 66, LeTourneau 63
Whitman 110, Walla Walla (NAIA 2) 72
William Jewell (NAIA 2) 74, Westfield State 48
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 07, 2009, 11:09:17 AM
Scores from 1/6

Drew 72, Berkeley, NJ (other) 58
Fisher (NAIA 2) 86, Wentworth 83
LaGrange 83, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 72
UC Santa Cruz 80, William Jessup (NAIA 2) 79
Valley City State (NAIA 2) 79, Minnesota Morris 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2009, 10:18:02 AM
Scores from 1/7

Castleton State 70, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 64
Curry 87, Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 76
Nebraska Wesleyan 69, Doane (NAIA 2) 68 (OT)
Westminster, MO 81, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2009, 10:19:24 AM
Does anyone know if Doane and/or Lincoln Christian are currently NCAA D3 provisionals?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 08, 2009, 10:33:59 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2009, 10:19:24 AM
Does anyone know if Doane and/or Lincoln Christian are currently NCAA D3 provisionals?
Lincoln Christian is no longer in the "Provisional Pipeline" (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/resources/file/ebbc31098a73078/2008-09%20Provisional%2C%20Reclass%20%26%20Exploratory%20Chart.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&attachment=true).   :)

Doane should start next year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2009, 12:26:01 PM
Ralph: Thanks for the response.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2009, 12:39:43 PM
Totals through 1/7

D3 vs.

D1....1-34
D2....12-54
NAIA 1....7-26
NAIA 2....110-75
NCCAA 1....6-1
NCCAA 2....19-5
USCAA....49-5
Other....39-5
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 09, 2009, 12:25:43 PM
Scores from 1/8

Concordia, MO (other) 69, Principia 58
Lancaster Bible 89, Multnomah Bible (NCCAA 2) 71
Malone (NAIA 2) 93, Geneva 69
West Coast Baptist (other) 89, Vassar 81
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2009, 10:20:48 AM
Scores from 1/9

Eastern 78, Penn State-Brandywine (USCAA) 54
Johnson State 66, SUNY-Canton (NAIA 2) 42
Lakeland 65, Silver Lake (USCAA) 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2009, 10:28:54 AM
Scores from 1/10

Nebraska Wesleyan 68, Dordt (NAIA 2) 61
Southwestern, AZ (other) 85, Lancaster Bible 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 12, 2009, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2009, 10:28:54 AM
Scores from 1/10

Nebraska Wesleyan 68, Dordt (NAIA 2) 68

What, no OT? :o :D

(I assume a typo?)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on January 12, 2009, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 12, 2009, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2009, 10:28:54 AM
Scores from 1/10

Nebraska Wesleyan 68, Dordt (NAIA 2) 68

What, no OT? :o :D

(I assume a typo?)

Maybe, maybe not. Marquette High School in Milwaukee had 50-50 tie earlier this year at a game in Indianapolis when the roof started leaking with two minutes left. The coaches decided to let the score stand.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2009, 02:25:24 PM
Mr. Ypsi: It definitely was a typo. Thanks for pointing it out.

hickory_cornhusker: No leaky roof and no tie on this one.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2009, 10:29:55 AM
Totals through 1/10

D3 vs.

D1....1-34
D2....12-54
NAIA 1....7-26
NAIA 2....112-76
NCCAA 1....6-1
NCCAA 2....20-5
USCAA....51-5
Other....39-8
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2009, 03:37:11 PM
Score from 1/11

RPI 79, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2009, 03:40:59 PM
Scores from 1/12

Eastern Mennonite 80, Southern Virginia (USCAA) 71
LaGrange 76, Covenant (NAIA 2) 74
Lakeland 76, Northland Baptist (NCCAA 2) 56
Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 81, Greenville 75
Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 71, Geneva 66
Rowan 92, Penn State-Hazelton (USCAA) 41
Wisconsin Lutheran 84, Silver Lake (USCAA) 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 14, 2009, 10:08:52 AM
Scores from 1/13

Marywood 79, Penn State-Schuykill (USCAA) 70
North Carolina Wesleyan 108, Roanoke Bible (other) 47
Piedmont 107, Toccoa Falls (NCCAA 2) 64
Presentation 89, Nebraska Christian (other) 66
Seattle (D2) 85, Linfield 40
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2009, 10:32:26 AM
Scores from 1/14

Minnestota State-Moorhead (D2) 95, Crown 43
Penn State-Harrisburg 89, Penn State-York (USCAA) 79
Scranton 70, Penn State-Hazelton (USCAA) 53
St. John Fisher 72, Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2009, 10:45:32 AM
Totals through 1/14

D3 vs.

D1....1-34
D2....12-56
NAIA 1....7-26
NAIA 2....115-76
NCCAA 1....6-1
NCCAA 2....22-6
USCAA....57-7
Other....41-8
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2009, 11:08:05 AM
Score from 1/15

St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 85, Southern Vermont 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2009, 11:09:27 AM
Scores from 1/16

New Hampshire Tech (USCAA) 78, Lyndon State 65
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 74, Keuka 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2009, 11:21:13 AM
Scores from 1/17

Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 78, Blackburn 70
Lyndon State 98, Maine-Augusta (NAIA 2) 86
Pacific Union (NAIA 2) 74, UC Santa Cruz 64 (OT)
Rochester Tech 68, Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 53
Vermont Tech (USCAA) 81, Maine-Presque Isle 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 20, 2009, 10:07:59 AM
Scores from 1/18

Dakota Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 77, Nebraska Wesleyan 64
St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 85, Maine-Presque Isle 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 21, 2009, 10:17:11 AM
Scores from 1/19

Alfred 82, Albany Pharmacy (other) 55
Berry (NAIA 1) 90, LaGrange 72
Huntingdon 81, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 56
Lancaster Bible 55, Penn State-Brandywine (USCAA) 52
SIU Edwardsville (D1) 88, Greenville 55
St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA 2) 65, Principia 56
UC Santa Cruz 81, CSU Maritime (NAIA 2) 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 21, 2009, 10:32:06 AM
Totals through 1/19

D3 vs.

D1....1-35
D2....12-56
NAIA 1....7-27
NAIA 2....118-82
NCCAA 1....6-1
NCCAA 2....23-7
USCAA....58-9
Other....42-8
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 21, 2009, 11:56:59 AM
Scores from 1/20

Finlandia 85, Northland Baptist (NCCAA 2) 70
Rose-Hulman 80, Robert Morris-Springfield (USCAA) 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 22, 2009, 10:06:06 AM
Scores from 1/21

Midland Lutheran (NAIA 2) 63, Nebraska Wesleyan 57
Morrisville State 75, Albany Pharmacy (other) 57
St. Josephs, Brooklyn 80, Vaughn (other) 41
SUNY-Cobleskill 59, Word of Life (other) 57
Waynesburg 74, Penn State-Greater Allegheny (USCAA) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2009, 09:44:03 AM
Scores from 1/22

Indiana-Northwest (NAIA 2) 108, Greenville 105
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 81, Philadelphia Bible 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ephoops on January 23, 2009, 01:29:03 PM
Agreed...

When Williams beat Holy Cross early this decade, it really showed that there is very little upside for a D-1 school to schedule a D-3 team.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2009, 07:01:17 PM
Scores from 1/24

Gallaudet 71, Maryland Bible (other) 70 (OT)
Maine-Presque Isle 90, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 86
Northwestern, IA (NAIA 2) 70, Nebraska Wesleyan 61
Silver Lake (USCAA) 87, Finlandia 76
St. Joseph's, Brooklyn 70, Albany Pharmacy (other) 58
Wartburg 105, Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2009, 07:02:10 PM
Score from 1/25

Maine-Presque Isle 106, SUNY-Canton (NAIA 2) 100
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 26, 2009, 07:05:38 PM
Break up UMPI!! :D

TWO wins in one weekend! :o
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2009, 07:08:30 PM
Totals through 1/25

D3 vs.

D1....1-34
D2....12-56
NAIA 1....7-26
NAIA 2....117-79
NCCAA 1....6-1
NCCAA 2....24-7
USCAA....59-8
Other....46-8
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2009, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 26, 2009, 07:05:38 PM
Break up UMPI!! :D

TWO wins in one weekend! :o

It's going to be tough to keep the win streak going. UMPI's next game is on the road against Fisher, a team that beat them 115-74 earler in the season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 27, 2009, 09:27:27 AM
Scores from 1/26

Gallaudet 67, Christendom (USCAA) 39
UW-Stevens Point 92, Viterbo (NAIA 2) 40
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2009, 10:10:29 AM
Scores from 1/27

Huntingdon 81, Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 62
Minnesota-Morris 82, Trinity Bible, ND (NCCAA 2) 55
UW-Stout 72, Silver Lake (USCAA) 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2009, 09:51:30 AM
Score from 1/28

Dana (NAIA 2) 72, Nebraska Wesleyan 54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2009, 02:21:19 PM
Scores from 1/29

Eastern Mennonite 105, Washington Bible (NCCAA 2) 38
St. Joseph's, Brooklyn 99, Sarah Lawrence (other) 51
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 91, Lancaster Bible 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2009, 02:23:14 PM
Scores from 1/30

Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 87, Concordia, IL 66
Concordia, WI 60, Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 47
Huntingdon 75, Concordia-Selma (USCAA) 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2009, 02:30:06 PM
Totals through 1/30

D3 vs.

D1....1-34
D2....12-56
NAIA 1....7-26
NAIA 2....119-81
NCCAA 1....7-1
NCCAA 2....26-8
USCAA....62-8
Other....47-8
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2009, 03:13:45 PM
Scores from 1/31

Bethany, CA (NAIA 2) 94, UC Santa Cruz 82
Concordia, IL 66, Concordia, MI (NAIA 2) 64
Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 61, Concordia, WI 60
Fisher (NAIA 2) 94, Maine-Presque Isle 72
Kings 108, Penn Tech (USCAA) 65
Morningside (NAIA 2) 67, Nebraska Wesleyan 64
North Central, MN 82, Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 55
St. Joseph's, Brooklyn 72, Berkeley, NY (other) 60
University of Dallas 74, Johnson & Wales, CO (NAIA 2) 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2009, 07:04:46 PM
Score from 2/1

Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 89, Maine-Presque Isle 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2009, 04:53:54 PM
Scores from 2/2

Grinnell 126, William Penn (NAIA 2) 101
Rust 88, Concordia-Selma (USCAA) 81
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2009, 07:03:19 PM
Scores from 2/3

Huntingdon 95, Atlanta Christian (NCCAA 2) 69
La Sierra 77, West Coast Baptist (other) 64
Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 82, Blackburn 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2009, 07:06:35 PM
Scores from 2/4

Hastings (NAIA 2) 56, Nebraska Wesleyan 53
Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 95, Maine-Presque Isle 60
Rust 73, Philander Smith (USCAA) 67
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 78, TCNJ 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 05, 2009, 07:14:44 PM
Totals through 2/4

D3 vs.

D1....1-34
D2....12-56
NAIA 1....7-26
NAIA 2....122-88
NCCAA 1....7-1
NCCAA 2....28-10
USCAA....65-8
Other....49-8
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 06, 2009, 10:25:08 AM
Scores from 2/5

Cazenovia 80, Albany Pharmacy (other) 67
Chapman 64, West Coast Baptist (other) 40
North Central, MN 100, Crossroads (other) 55
Randolph 83, Patrick Henry (other) 18
St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 73, Johnson State 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 06, 2009, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 06, 2009, 10:25:08 AM
Randolph 83, Patrick Henry (other) 18

Randolph apparently didn't give Patrick Henry "liberty" as an option. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: oldchap on February 06, 2009, 03:20:46 PM
2/5 score:

West Coast Baptist (PCAC) 40 - Chapman 64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 06, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: oldchap on February 06, 2009, 03:20:46 PM
2/5 score:

West Coast Baptist (PCAC) 40 - Chapman 64
Thanks for the missing score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 08, 2009, 01:18:50 PM
Scores from 2/7

LeMoyne-Owen (D2) 89, Rust 75
Mount Marty (NAIA 2) 71, Nebraska Wesleyan 57
Rutgers-Camden 85, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on February 09, 2009, 11:24:01 PM
2/9 score

Maryville (TN) 89 - Tennessee Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2009, 10:03:58 AM
Score from 2/8

Maine-Augusta (NAIA 2) 97, Maine-Presque Isle 93
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2009, 10:05:28 AM
Scores from 2/9

Chapman 82, Golden State Baptist (other) 37
Maryville, TN 89, Tennessee Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 63
Ohio-Eastern (other) 79, Franciscan, OH 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: oldchap on February 11, 2009, 01:30:54 AM
Here is another one from 2/9

Golden State Baptist (PCAC) 37 - Chapman 82
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 11, 2009, 10:02:25 AM
Quote from: oldchap on February 11, 2009, 01:30:54 AM
Here is another one from 2/9

Golden State Baptist (PCAC) 37 - Chapman 82

Thanks for the score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: elfinley on February 13, 2009, 01:11:03 AM
From 2/12:

Chapman 68, Hope International(GSAC NAIA Div. 1) 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2009, 10:18:31 AM
Scores from 2/10

Houghton (NAIA 2) 63, Fredonia State 57
Northland 76, Northland Baptist (NCCAA 2) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2009, 10:20:33 AM
Scores from 2/11

Maine-Machias (NAIA 2) 94, Maine-Presque Isle 75
Montclair State 82, Berkeley, NJ (other) 51
Nebraska Wesleyan 66, Concordia, NE (NAIA 2) 59
UC Santa Cruz 73, Cal State-East Bay (NAIA 2) 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2009, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: elfinley on February 13, 2009, 01:11:03 AM
From 2/12:

Chapman 68, Hope International(GSAC NAIA Div. 1) 61
Thanks for the score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2009, 10:25:42 AM
Scores from 2/12

Chapman 68, Hope International (NAIA 1) 61
Oakwood (USCAA) 75, Huntingdon 73
Rivier 73, Hampshire (other) 34
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 15, 2009, 02:35:03 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on February 09, 2009, 11:24:01 PM
2/9 score

Maryville (TN) 89 - Tennessee Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 63
Thanks for the score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 15, 2009, 02:37:11 PM
Totals through 2/12

D3 vs.

D1....1-34
D2....12-57
NAIA 1....8-26
NAIA 2....125-93
NCCAA 1....7-1
NCCAA 2....30-10
USCAA....65-9
Other....56-9
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 15, 2009, 02:41:40 PM
Scores from 2/13

Davis (other) 81, Lancaster Bible 79
North Central, MN 103, Trinity Bible, ND (NCCAA 2) 76
Rust 105, Philander Smith (USCAA) 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 15, 2009, 02:44:00 PM
Scores from 2/14

Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 93, Principia 72
Nebraska Wesleyan 75, Sioux Falls (NAIA 2) 58
Pacific 96, Multnomah Bible (NCCAA 2) 81
Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 77, Arcadia 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on February 17, 2009, 11:48:40 AM
2-16
Maryville (TN) D3 93 - Covenant (NAIA 2) 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on February 17, 2009, 11:48:40 AM
2-16
Maryville (TN) D3 93 - Covenant (NAIA 2) 76
Thanks for the score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2009, 06:56:01 PM
Scores from 2/15

St. Joseph's, Brooklyn 85, Culinary Institute (other) 77
Vermont Tech (USCAA) 106, Maine-Presque Isle 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2009, 06:58:31 PM
Scores from 2/16

Geneva 97, Penn State-Beaver (USCAA) 71
Maryville, TN 93, Covenant (NAIA 2) 76
North Dakota (D1) 77, Hamline 60
Wittenberg 80, Indiana-East (NAIA 2) 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 18, 2009, 07:44:25 PM
Totals through 2/16

D3 vs.

D1....1-35
D2....12-57
NAIA 1....8-26
NAIA 2....128-93
NCCAA 1....7-1
NCCAA 2....32-12
USCAA....67-10
Other....57-10
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: oldchap on February 18, 2009, 08:49:30 PM
You're missing one I think from 2/17

Chapman 78 - West Coast Baptist (PCAC) 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 19, 2009, 09:53:07 AM
Quote from: oldchap on February 18, 2009, 08:49:30 PM
You're missing one I think from 2/17

Chapman 78 - West Coast Baptist (PCAC) 62
Thanks for the score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 19, 2009, 09:55:30 AM
Scores from 2/17

Chapman 78, West Coast Baptist (other) 62
Lyndon State 86, St. Joseph, VT (NAIA 2) 76
Midland Lutheran (NAIA 2) 72, Nebraska Wesleyan 60
Presentation 77, Trinity Bible, ND (NCCAA 2) 57
University of Dallas 73, Dallas Christian (NCCAA 2) 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 19, 2009, 09:59:44 AM
Scores from 2/18

Medgar Evers 72, Pratt (other) 40
Penn State-Berks 76, Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: elfinley on February 20, 2009, 01:50:10 AM
Score from 2/19:

Chapman 71, Vanguard(NAIA Div. 1) 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 20, 2009, 10:24:38 AM
Quote from: elfinley on February 20, 2009, 01:50:10 AM
Score from 2/19:

Chapman 71, Vanguard(NAIA Div. 1) 58
Thanks for the score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 20, 2009, 10:26:23 AM
Scores from 2/19

Chapman 71, Vanguard (NAIA 1) 58
Eureka 87, Lincoln Christian (NCCAA 2) 70
Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 91, Maranatha Baptist 44
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: LogShow on February 21, 2009, 05:04:45 PM
Rhodes,  your job for the year is almost done...great work this year!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 22, 2009, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: LogShow on February 21, 2009, 05:04:45 PM
Rhodes,  your job for the year is almost done...great work this year!
Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 22, 2009, 10:37:08 AM
Score from 2/20

Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 79, Lancaster Bible 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 26, 2009, 09:51:36 AM
Scores from 2/21

Finlandia 81, Northland Baptist (NCCAA 2) 78
Hastings (NAIA 2) 65, Nebraska Wesleyan 54
Maine-Presque Isle 77, Paul Smith's (NAIA 2) 54
North Central, MN 90, Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA 2) 52
Oakwood (USCAA) 63, Huntingdon 62
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA 1) 94, LaGrange 61
St. Joseph's, BK 82, Culinary Institute (other) 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 26, 2009, 09:52:55 AM
Scores from 2/22

Berkeley, NJ (other) 75, St. Joseph's, BK 71
SUNY Canton (NAIA 2) 94, Maine-Presque Isle 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 26, 2009, 09:54:11 AM
Scores from 2/24

Maine-Fort Kent (NAIA 2) 97, Maine-Presque Isle 71
Warren Wilson (USCAA) 81, Piedmont 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 28, 2009, 10:59:46 AM
Score from 2/26

Valley Forge Christian (NCCAA 2) 79, Philadelphia Biblical 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 07, 2009, 06:21:40 PM
Final Totals for 2009 (subject to revision)

D3 vs.

D1....1-35
D2....12-57
NAIA 1....9-26
NAIA 2....130-97
NCCAA 1....7-2
NCCAA 2....38-15
USCAA....67-12
Other....60-11
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 09, 2009, 05:24:46 PM
Thanks for another season of logging the interdivisional results, Rhodes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: TeeDub on March 09, 2009, 07:28:04 PM
How does this year stack up with other years?  I ask because I'm too lazy to look up. :-\
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2009, 07:45:55 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on March 07, 2006, 05:09:28 PM
Totals through regular season*

D3 vs.

D1...2-66
D2...22-68
NAIA 1...22-31
NAIA 2...119-118
NCCAA...72-9
USCAA...75-18
Other...37-2

*Subject to revision. There are missing scores, but far fewer than those of previous years.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2007, 10:04:33 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....10-73
NAIA 1....21-41
NAIA 2....90-101
NCCAA 1....8-7
NCCAA 2....56-12
USCAA....51-26
Other....72-11

(Totals through 2/23)

Final totals for 2006-07 season
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2009, 07:47:15 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on March 22, 2008, 08:48:54 AM
Final Totals for 2008*

D3 vs.

D1....1-32
D2....16-56
NAIA 1....18-34
NAIA 2....121-98
NCCAA 1....9-2
NCCAA 2....53-22
USCAA....59-23
Other....51-14

*Subject to revision
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2009, 07:47:42 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on March 07, 2009, 06:21:40 PM
Final Totals for 2009 (subject to revision)

D3 vs.

D1....1-35
D2....12-57
NAIA 1....9-26
NAIA 2....130-97
NCCAA 1....7-2
NCCAA 2....38-15
USCAA....67-12
Other....60-11
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on March 09, 2009, 10:56:44 PM
I had not realized NAIA II had a year where they won more D3 matchups.  Thanks Ralph.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on March 24, 2009, 09:55:16 AM
Has there ever been any thought given to an "end of year" tournament between the lower divisions in college basketball?  Taking the Champions from each classification and having a mini-tournament seems like it would generate some interest.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: chairman on March 24, 2009, 12:12:49 PM
Interest perhaps, but could you imagine the NCAA the giving the blessing for something like that?

No SHOT
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 24, 2009, 12:36:07 PM
I seem to remember that back in the early '90s there was a Tournament of Champions held in Alaska at the beginning of the season that featured the previous spring's D2, D3, NAIA-1, and NAIA-2 national champions, back when both the NCAA and NAIA granted length-of-season exemptions to games played in Alaska and Hawaii. But perhaps I'm just imagining that it ever got past the discussion stage, because I can't find any online references to this Tournament of Champions. Even if it actually took place, it couldn't have lasted more than a year or two.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 05, 2009, 11:46:34 PM
Exhibition:  Boise State 111 Willamette 72 (http://www.willamette.edu/athletics/news/article/2009/11/boise_state_defeats_willamette_in_exhibition_game_11172.xml)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on November 06, 2009, 12:08:00 AM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on March 24, 2009, 09:55:16 AM
Has there ever been any thought given to an "end of year" tournament between the lower divisions in college basketball?  Taking the Champions from each classification and having a mini-tournament seems like it would generate some interest.

I had a fun chat with someone about this for basketball yesterday...

An fyi for those who don't follow all d3 sports: In tennis, the ITA has a fall/winter semester championship tournament for small colleges (Juco, NAIA, d3, d2), taking those champions from the lower divisions and putting them in brackets and such. I believe the winner of that then goes to the national indoor championship tourney with the big boys/girls in d1. Its pretty good stuff.

http://www.itatennis.com/Events/ITANationalChampionships/SmallCollege.htm
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 07, 2009, 12:17:47 AM
News release from Old Dominion Atlectic Conference:

November 4, 2009
R-MC Knocks Off American in Exhibition
Eric Pugh's  lay up as time expired sent Randolph-Macon to a 49-47 victory over defending Patriot League Champion American University in men's basketball exhibition action on Tuesday night in Washington, D.C. It's marks R-MC's second preseason win over a D-I program in the last two years.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 08, 2009, 09:57:15 AM
FYI, all fans of this room.....

The guru of D3 vs everyone else activity, Rhodes Scholar,  has applied for and been granted a sabbatical from this room for the year, and has asked me to take over his duties.  As I was already well into a program to monitor D3 data on a national basis this year, I have accepted.   I should have most results posted on a next day basis and win-loss records up with some regularity.  As I will be running from a download, I may repeat scores if any of you post intriguing results of individual games before I do   -  feel free to do so, no harm if I repeat games in my list.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wooscotsfan on November 08, 2009, 11:22:08 AM
Exhibition:  D1 Kent State 76  Wooster 59

Wooster led this game early 21-11 and only trailed 35-30 at halftime.  KSU defense was too tough in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 08, 2009, 08:16:25 PM
Thanks for agreeing to fill in for Rhodes, Hopefan.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on November 08, 2009, 10:23:49 PM
Write it down.  MIT will beat Harvard Dec. 28. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 09, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
To wet the appetite, here are the D3 vs D1 games scheduled  -  this may  not be 100% accurate as changes to schedules may have occurred after I entered into data...   somebody needs to give me some hints on formatting columns?

11/15/2009HiramNCACYoungstown State
11/16/2009Louisiana CollegeASCLouisiana-Lafayette
11/16/2009MacMurraySLIACArkansas St.
11/16/2009Mount St. MarySKYStony Brook
11/16/2009St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)INDNew Jersey Tech
11/16/2009WilmingtonOACCleveland St.
11/17/2009LynchburgODACRadford
11/17/2009Mary WashingtonCACGardner-Webb
11/17/2009Whitman NWCEasternWashington
11/18/2009North Carolina WesleyanUSACNorth Carolina Central
11/19/2009LaVerneSCIACCal-Riverside
11/21/2009EurekaSLIACEastern Illinois
11/21/2009Hampden-SydneyODACHigh Point
11/21/2009Louisiana CollegeASCMcNeese State
11/21/2009MethodistUSACGardner-Webb
11/22/2009Hardin-SimmonsASCBaylor
11/24/2009Mary WashingtonCACDelaware State
11/28/2009MillsapsSCACSE Louisiana
11/30/2009LynchburgODACVMI
12/3/2009SUNY-CobleskillNEACNew Jersey Tech
12/9/2009AugustanaCCIWGonzaga
12/9/2009LinfieldNWCPortland State
12/9/2009Louisiana CollegeASCLamar
12/9/2009Maine-Presque IsleINDMaine
12/10/2009PiedmontGSACMercer
12/12/2009Bridgewater (Va.)ODACCoastal Carolina
12/12/2009OccidentalSCIACCal State-Fullerton
12/12/2009Randolph-MaconODACVMI
12/13/2009Lyndon StateNACDartmouth
12/13/2009RoanokeODACRadford
12/17/2009New JerseyNJACDavidson
12/19/2009Concordia (Wis.)NATHCValparaiso
12/19/2009FerrumUSACWinston-Salem State
12/19/2009MethodistUSACCharleston
12/19/2009Mount St. VincentSKYArmy
12/19/2009OccidentalSCIACSMU
12/19/2009VassarLLWilliam and Mary
12/22/2009FranklinHCACEastern Illinois
12/27/2009CornellIIACCoastal Carolina
12/28/2009KeanNJACBrown
12/28/2009MITNEWMACHarvard
12/29/2009St. OlafMIACNorth Dakota
12/29/2009Texas LutheranASCTexas State
12/29/2009WillametteNWCPortland State
12/30/2009PolytechnicSKYNJIT
12/30/2009Westminster (Mo.)SLIACTennessee-Martin
12/31/2009ManchesterHCACBall State
12/31/2009Penn State-BehrendAMCCCornell (N.Y.)
1/2/2010McMurryASCUT-San Antonio
1/2/2010StevensonCACThe Citadel
1/2/2010Texas-DallasASCUT-Arlington
1/11/2010ClarksonLLCornell (N.Y.)
1/24/2010Goucher LANDPrinceton

(modified by GS for formatting)

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 09, 2009, 03:35:36 PM
Here's another one:

11/20/2009  Farmingdale State   Skyline    Hofstra 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on November 09, 2009, 04:32:24 PM
Here are the CCIW vs non-D3 games this year, in case it helps...


11/30 - Millikin @ Maryville-Mo. (D2)

12/1 - Carthage @ IU-Northwest (NAIA)

12/3 - North Park vs Trinity International (NAIA)

12/7 - North Park vs East-West (NAIA)

12/9 - Augstana @ Gonzaga (D1)
12/9 - Carthage @ Calumet College - St. Joseph (NAIA)

12/11 - Millikin @ Missouri Baptist (NAIA)

12/12 - Millikin @ Maryville-Mo (NAIA) - potential tournament matchup

12/17 - North Central @ Indiana Institute of Tecnhology (NAIA)



I have nothing to back this up, but it sure seems like 9 total non-D3 games across 8 CCIW teams has to be close to an all-time low.  Last year alone IWU played 4 NAIA teams...and this year plays all 11 non-conference games vs D3's.  A couple regular NAIA games are not on 2009-10 schedules - Augustana vs St. Ambrose and IWU vs Olivet Nazarene.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 09, 2009, 08:27:26 PM
Here's what I have for the NCAC, also not a long slate:

11/15 -- Hiram at Youngstown St. (D1)
11/17 -- Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) at Wittenberg
11/17 -- Wabash at Marian (NAIA 2)
11/21 -- Denison vs. Goshen (NAIA 2) (at Hanover)
12/30 -- TBA (either Ohio Dominican or Marian, both NAIA 2) at Wittenberg
2/8 -- Penn St.-New Kensington (USCAA) at Allegheny

New Kensington may be provisional D3, I no longer remember where to go to look stuff like that up.

If sac is going to do this for the MIAA, we may have to move to a larger server.  ;)

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 09, 2009, 09:24:08 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 09, 2009, 08:27:26 PM

If sac is going to do this for the MIAA, we may have to move to a larger server.  ;)


'Tiny Dagger'  ;)



...... Hope vs Oakland is Nov 10 (Tuesday) not Nov 17 as hopefan has listed.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 09, 2009, 11:10:41 PM

Why is Gonzaga playing Augustana?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 09, 2009, 11:28:33 PM
Exhibition in Houston tonight...

D1 Texas Southern 88, McMurry 81.

McMurry had the chance to close the deficit to 2 on a couple of times in the last 2 minutes but could not pull it off.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 09, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
Jan 2, 2010  UT-Dallas at UT-Arlington.

The last time those two played, UTD won with a bunch of sophomores that played in the Elite 8 in 2009.

Click here (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2006/12/30/Unbeaten+UT-Dallas+tops+D-I+school/828?month=2&year=1998)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on November 10, 2009, 12:35:21 AM
Hoops Fan, to address your Zags v. Augie question. Basically, the connection occurred through the coaching network after the Zags couldn't get a D1 to fill the date, and D1's can pay D3's more in a regular season match-up. The extra money will go towards the teams trip next summer to China.

"One of those [Augustana Coach Giovanine's] friends is Gonzaga head coach Mark Few. An even closer friend is Ray Giacoletti, who was an assistant at a pair of Giovanine's previous stops and who Few hired as his lead assistant two years ago."

Article: Augie to play at Gonzaga next season (http://www.qctimes.com/sports/basketball/college/article_c3d81a1a-4ebf-11de-89c0-001cc4c002e0.html)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: consultant on November 12, 2009, 12:29:15 PM
Another West Coast Conference School (D-I) will play a Division III school on Monday, Nov. 16.  Santa Clara will host fellow Bay Area school Menlo. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 12, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Consultant  -  is Menlo considered a part of D3 basketball?  They don't appear as such in this site, and they are not on a provisional list on NCAA.Org -  I don't have them as such in my data base (I classify them as NAIA-D2  -  they do appear in that site)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: consultant on November 12, 2009, 04:36:41 PM
Hopefan,
Interestingly enough, I've been trying to confirm Menlo's status in men's basketball.  The college seems to be affiliated with both the NAIA and NCAA Div. III with men's basketball still being affiliated with NAIA.




Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 12, 2009, 05:56:31 PM
Menlo, like Nebraska Wesleyan, is a dual member of the NAIA (Division II) and the NCAA (Division III). Unlike Nebraska Wesleyan, Menlo declares every year for the NAIA in terms of postseason play, which makes it an NAIA school and not a D3 school for recording purposes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2009, 12:07:20 PM
Games of 11/15/09

Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  89,  CCNY  81
Buena Vista  62,  Wayne State (Neb.)  (NCAA-D2)  61
Concordia (Wis.)  86,  UW-Parkside  (NCAA-D2)  81
Grinnell  99,  Waldorf  (NAIA-D2)  92
Franklin Pierce (NCAA-D2)  79,  Lesley  68
Mankato State  (NCAA-D2)  90,  Monmouth  57
Massachusetts College  111,  Albany College of Pharmacy  (Other)  70
Midwestern State  (NCAA-D2)  63,  Trinity (Texas)  52
Millersville  (NCAA-D2)  74,  Penn State Abington  62
Penn State DuBois  (USCAA)  69,  Alfred  66
Saginaw Valley  (NCAA-D2)  71,  Adrian  50
St. Norbert  112,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  73
York (Pa.)  99,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  66
Youngstown State  (NCAA-D1)  81,  Hiram  41
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2009, 06:20:22 PM
Games of 11/16/09

Arkansas St.  (NCAA-D1)  93,  MacMurray  47
Blackburn  82,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  72
Cleveland St.  (NCAA-D1)  99,  Wilmington  74
Eastern  93,  Valley Forge Military  (Other)  69
Emory and Henry  83,  Virginia-Wise  (NAIA-D2)  80
Graceland  (NAIA-D1)  79,  Central  78
Indiana (Pa.)  (NCAA-D2)  82,  Thiel  64
Louisiana-Lafayette  (NCAA-D1)  90,  Louisiana College  68
Marywood  96,  Penn State Wilkes-Barre  (USCAA)  78
McMurry  113,  Baptist Bible (Mo.)  (NCCAA-D2)  71
New Jersey Tech  (NCAA-D1)  96,  St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)   54
Seton Hill  (NCAA-D2)  81,  Juniata  59
Spalding  92,  Shawnee Baptist  (Other)  32
St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  87,  Green Mountain  82
St. Vincent  63,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  57
Stony Brook  (NCAA-D1)  87,  Mount St. Mary  53
Texas A&M-Commerce  (NCAA-D2)  67,  Trinity (Texas)  58
Texas-Tyler  87,  Southwestern Adventist  (Other)  55
Wilkes  84,  Penn State Hazleton  (USCAA)  53
Winona State  (NCAA-D2)  83,  UW-Stout  66

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           6
NCAA D2      2           9
NAIA D1       0           1
NAIA D2       2           1
NCCAA         2           0
USCAA         5           2
Other           3           1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2009, 03:49:49 PM
Games OF 11/17/09

Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  69,  Olivet  55
Azusa Pacific  (NAIA-D1)  74,  Occidental  57
Baptist Bible  63,  Penn State Wilkes-Barre  (USCAA)  55
Belhaven  (NAIA-D1)  84,  Millsaps  69
Central Missouri  (NCAA-D2)  86,  Westminster (Mo.)  51
Eastern Washington  (NCAA-D1)  100,  Whitman  88
Evergreen  (NAIA-D2)  108,  Puget Sound  97
Grand View  (NAIA-D2)  74,  Buena Vista  65
Hope  65,  Rochester (Mi.)  (USCAA)  50
Huntingdon  72,  Atlanta Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  63
Maine Maritime  81,  Maine-Machias  (NAIA-D2)  77
Marian (Ind.)  (NAIA-D2)  68,  Wabash  65
Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  76,  Coe  64
Mount St. Joseph  85,  Cincinnati Christian  (NAIA-D2)  68
Pacific  82,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  81
Radford  (NCAA-D1)  94,  Lynchburg  70
Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  71,  Nazareth  55
Transylvania  77,  Berea  (NAIA-D2)  66
UA-Fort Smith  (NCAA-D2)  87,  University of the Ozarks  65
UW-Platteville  73,  Clarke  (NAIA-D2)  66
UW-River Falls  66,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  49
Wittenberg  91,  UC Clermont  (USCAA)  64


D3 record vs:
                   W         L            
NCAA D1      0           8
NCAA D2      2           11
NAIA D1       0           3
NAIA D2       7          7
NCCAA         4           0
USCAA         8           2
Other           3           1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 18, 2009, 03:55:38 PM
Interesting.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: fcnews on November 18, 2009, 04:13:01 PM
Geez Hopefan. Like you don't have enough to do. ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2009, 03:17:45 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 09, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
To wet the appetite, here are the D3 vs D1 games scheduled  -  this may  not be 100% accurate as changes to schedules may have occurred after I entered into data...   somebody needs to give me some hints on formatting columns?

11/15/2009HiramNCACYoungstown State
11/16/2009Louisiana CollegeASCLouisiana-Lafayette
11/16/2009MacMurraySLIACArkansas St.
11/16/2009Mount St. MarySKYStony Brook
11/16/2009St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)INDNew Jersey Tech
11/16/2009WilmingtonOACCleveland St.
11/17/2009LynchburgODACRadford
11/17/2009Mary WashingtonCACGardner-Webb
11/17/2009Whitman NWCEasternWashington
11/18/2009North Carolina WesleyanUSACNorth Carolina Central
11/19/2009LaVerneSCIACCal-Riverside
11/21/2009EurekaSLIACEastern Illinois
11/21/2009Hampden-SydneyODACHigh Point
11/21/2009Louisiana CollegeASCMcNeese State
11/21/2009MethodistUSACGardner-Webb
11/22/2009Hardin-SimmonsASCBaylor
11/24/2009Mary WashingtonCACDelaware State
11/28/2009MillsapsSCACSE Louisiana
11/30/2009LynchburgODACVMI
12/3/2009SUNY-CobleskillNEACNew Jersey Tech
12/9/2009AugustanaCCIWGonzaga
12/9/2009LinfieldNWCPortland State
12/9/2009Louisiana CollegeASCLamar
12/9/2009Maine-Presque IsleINDMaine
12/10/2009PiedmontGSACMercer
12/12/2009Bridgewater (Va.)ODACCoastal Carolina
12/12/2009OccidentalSCIACCal State-Fullerton
12/12/2009Randolph-MaconODACVMI
12/13/2009Lyndon StateNACDartmouth
12/13/2009RoanokeODACRadford
12/17/2009New JerseyNJACDavidson
12/19/2009Concordia (Wis.)NATHCValparaiso
12/19/2009FerrumUSACWinston-Salem State
12/19/2009MethodistUSACCharleston
12/19/2009Mount St. VincentSKYArmy
12/19/2009OccidentalSCIACSMU
12/19/2009VassarLLWilliam and Mary
12/22/2009FranklinHCACEastern Illinois
12/27/2009CornellIIACCoastal Carolina
12/28/2009KeanNJACBrown
12/28/2009MITNEWMACHarvard
12/29/2009St. OlafMIACNorth Dakota
12/29/2009Texas LutheranASCTexas State
12/29/2009WillametteNWCPortland State
12/30/2009PolytechnicSKYNJIT
12/30/2009Westminster (Mo.)SLIACTennessee-Martin
12/31/2009ManchesterHCACBall State
12/31/2009Penn State-BehrendAMCCCornell (N.Y.)
1/2/2010McMurryASCUT-San Antonio
1/2/2010StevensonCACThe Citadel
1/2/2010Texas-DallasASCUT-Arlington
1/11/2010ClarksonLLCornell (N.Y.)
1/24/2010Goucher LANDPrinceton

(modified by GS for formatting)



hopefan,
1 more to add to your list or maybe Greg will do it for you. On November 25th  SUNYAC school Fredonia State travels to Davidson North Carolina to take on the Division I Davidson Wildcats.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 19, 2009, 02:32:20 PM
scores of 11 18 09

Daniel Webster  87,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  69
Lycoming  88,  Penn State Hazleton  (USCAA)  72
Lyndon State  111,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  97
Manchester  98,  Purdue-North Central  (NAIA-D2)  74
Missouri St. Louis  (NCAA-D2)  89,  Blackburn  69
New Jersey  96,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  50
North  Carolina Central  (NCAA-D1)  85,  North Carolina Wesleyan  70
Ohio University Eastern  (Other)  88,  Franciscan  77
Penn State-Harrisburg  89,  Penn State Schuylkill  (USCAA)  73
Rust  89,  Wiley  (NAIA-D1)  82
SUNY-Canton  (NAIA-D2)  87,  Morrisville State  83
UC Davis  (NCAA-D2)  88,  UC Santa Cruz  59
William Penn  (NAIA-D2)  133,  Grinnell  101


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           10
NCAA D2      2           12
NAIA D1       1          4
NAIA D2       9          9
NCCAA         4           0
USCAA         11           2
Other           4           2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2009, 10:35:09 AM
Games of 11/19/09

Cal Riverside  (NCAA-D1)  87,  La Verne  71
California Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  95,  La Sierra  64
Evergreen  (NAIA-D2)  71,  Lewis and Clark  44
Medaille  87,  Paul Smith's  (NAIA-D2)  30
Minnesota-Morris  86,  Mayville State  (NAIA-D2)  79
Rosemont  75,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  40
Texas Lutheran  70,  Southwestern (Kan.)  (NAIA-D2)  68
Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  66,  Piedmont  55
West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  66,  Caltech  50

Not yet available   Louisiana College at St Thomas Texas

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           11
NCAA D2      2           12
NAIA D1       1            5
NAIA D2       12         10
NCCAA         4            2
USCAA         12          2
Other           4           2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2009, 05:30:32 PM
hopefan,

One more to add to your list of results. On Tuesday, Nov 17th, Clarkson defeated NAIA-D2 SUNY-Canton 71-61. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2009, 06:15:41 PM
magicman  -  thanks  not sure how I missed it, but I did!!!!

Also, the MIA from yesterday:

Louisiana College  57,  St Thomas Texas (NAIA-D2)  56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2009, 06:33:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 19, 2009, 03:17:45 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 09, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
To wet the appetite, here are the D3 vs D1 games scheduled  -  this may  not be 100% accurate as changes to schedules may have occurred after I entered into data...   somebody needs to give me some hints on formatting columns?

11/15/2009HiramNCACYoungstown State
11/16/2009Louisiana CollegeASCLouisiana-Lafayette
11/16/2009MacMurraySLIACArkansas St.
11/16/2009Mount St. MarySKYStony Brook
11/16/2009St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)INDNew Jersey Tech
11/16/2009WilmingtonOACCleveland St.
11/17/2009LynchburgODACRadford
11/17/2009Mary WashingtonCACGardner-Webb
11/17/2009Whitman NWCEasternWashington
11/18/2009North Carolina WesleyanUSACNorth Carolina Central
11/19/2009LaVerneSCIACCal-Riverside
11/21/2009EurekaSLIACEastern Illinois
11/21/2009Hampden-SydneyODACHigh Point
11/21/2009Louisiana CollegeASCMcNeese State
11/21/2009MethodistUSACGardner-Webb
11/22/2009Hardin-SimmonsASCBaylor
11/24/2009Mary WashingtonCACDelaware State
11/25/2009Fredonia State SUNYACDavidson NC
11/28/2009MillsapsSCACSE Louisiana
11/30/2009LynchburgODACVMI
12/3/2009SUNY-CobleskillNEACNew Jersey Tech
12/9/2009AugustanaCCIWGonzaga
12/9/2009LinfieldNWCPortland State
12/9/2009Louisiana CollegeASCLamar
12/9/2009Maine-Presque IsleINDMaine
12/10/2009PiedmontGSACMercer
12/12/2009Bridgewater (Va.)ODACCoastal Carolina
12/12/2009OccidentalSCIACCal State-Fullerton
12/12/2009Randolph-MaconODACVMI
12/13/2009Lyndon StateNACDartmouth
12/13/2009RoanokeODACRadford
12/17/2009New JerseyNJACDavidson
12/19/2009Concordia (Wis.)NATHCValparaiso
12/19/2009FerrumUSACWinston-Salem State
12/19/2009MethodistUSACCharleston
12/19/2009Mount St. VincentSKYArmy
12/19/2009OccidentalSCIACSMU
12/19/2009VassarLLWilliam and Mary
12/22/2009FranklinHCACEastern Illinois
12/27/2009CornellIIACCoastal Carolina
12/28/2009KeanNJACBrown
12/28/2009MITNEWMACHarvard
12/29/2009St. OlafMIACNorth Dakota
12/29/2009Texas LutheranASCTexas State
12/29/2009WillametteNWCPortland State
12/30/2009PolytechnicSKYNJIT
12/30/2009Westminster (Mo.)SLIACTennessee-Martin
12/31/2009ManchesterHCACBall State
12/31/2009Penn State-BehrendAMCCCornell (N.Y.)
1/2/2010McMurryASCUT-San Antonio
1/2/2010StevensonCACThe Citadel
1/2/2010Texas-DallasASCUT-Arlington
1/11/2010ClarksonLLCornell (N.Y.)
1/24/2010Goucher LANDPrinceton

(modified by GS for formatting)



hopefan,
1 more to add to your list or maybe Greg will do it for you. On November 25th  SUNYAC school Fredonia State travels to Davidson North Carolina to take on the Division I Davidson Wildcats.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2009, 05:29:07 PM
Games of 11/20/09

Albright  88,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  70
Alfred  81,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  54
Alvernia  106,  Valley Forge Military  (Other)  49
Bethel  93,  Nebraska Christian  (Other)  21
Colorado College  78,  CU-Colorado Springs  (NCAA-D2)  72
Corban  (NAIA-D2)  110,  Pacific  106
Davenport  (NAIA-D2)  88,  Lake Forest  73
Elon  (NCAA-D1)  102,  FDU-Florham  64
Geneva  78,  Penn State New Kensington  (USCAA)  60
Goshen  (NAIA-D2)  104,  Hanover  89
Grace Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  83,  Calvin  68
Grove City  73,  Penn State DuBois  (USCAA)  63
Hamilton  89,  Suny-Canton  (NAIA-D2)  56
Hannibal-Lagrange  (NAIA-D1)  76,  Fontbonne  73
Hofstra  (NCAA-D1)  87,  Farmingdale State  48
Marywood  83,  Penn State Hazleton  (USCAA)  56
Menlo  (NAIA-D2)  95,  Willamette  72
Millsaps  71,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  59
MIT  78,  John Abbott  (Other)  38
Mount Aloysius  101,  Penn State Mont Alto  (USCAA)  79
North Carolina Wesleyan  99,  Maryland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  91
Northern State  (NCAA-D2)  71,  Presentation  53
Northland International  (NCCAA-D2)  91,  Northland  68
Northwest Christian  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Linfield  59
Notre Dame  (NAIA-D2)  92,  Emory and Henry  71
Penn State Beaver  (USCAA)  56,  Waynesburg  52
Randolph  80,  Christendom  (USCAA)  51
RPI  97,  Cooper Union  (Other)  53
Sage  100,  Albany College of Pharmacy  (Other)  60
St. Cloud State  (NCAA-D2)  78,  St. John's  71
SUNYIT  85,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  70
Susquehanna  84,  Penn Tech  (USCAA)  48
Texas-Tyler  88,  Jarvis Christian  (NAIA-D1)  76
Trinity (Conn.)  79,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  75
UW-Stout  75,  Waldorf  (NAIA-D2)  54
West Alabama  (NCAA-D2)  77,  Huntingdon  66
Wheeling Jesuit  (NCAA-D2)  84,  Bethany  79
Whitman  95,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  73
William Jessup  (NAIA-D2)  84,  Lewis and Clark  80
Williamson Trade  (USCAA)  61,  Kean  57

Occidental at West Coast Baptist    No score yet available

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           13
NCAA D2      3           16
NAIA D1       2            6
NAIA D2       18         17
NCCAA         7            4
USCAA         20          4
Other           10           2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2009, 10:25:10 AM
Traveling up to IWU to see Wash U at IWU - won't have time to get things together on all the results from yesterday  -  will do a complete review for 11/21 and 11/22 tomorrow
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2009, 01:48:42 PM
Games of 11/21/09

Adrian  74,  Marygrove  (NAIA-D2)  52
Bethany  111,  Pitt Titusville  (USCAA)  50
Birmingham-Southern  84,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  66
Colorado College  80,  Bethany (Kan.)  (NAIA-D2)  70
Concordia (Mi.)  (NAIA-D2)  59,  Alma  56
Concordia (Ore.)  (NAIA-D2)  76,  Pacific Lutheran  74
Dakota State  (NAIA-D2)  57,  Presentation  49
Delaware Valley  98,  Valley Forge Military  (Other)  60
DeSales  92,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  47
Eastern Illinois  (NCAA-D1)  93,  Eureka  64
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  83,  Lesley  61
Fontbonne  72,  Moody Bible  (Other)  59
Gardner-Webb  (NCAA-D1)  83,  Methodist  58
Goshen  (NAIA-D2)  87,  Denison  84
Grace  (NAIA-D2)  77,  Manchester  76
Greensboro  86,  Maryland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  79
High Point  (NCAA-D1)  100,  Hampden-Sydney  74
Keuka  71,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  65
Keystone  99,  SUNY-Canton  (NAIA-D2)  56
McNeese State  (NCAA-D1)  73,  Louisiana College  36
Menlo  (NAIA-D2)  75,  Pacific  68
Notre Dame  (NAIA-D2)  91,  Westminster (Pa.)  60
Penn State DuBois  (USCAA)  92,  Hilbert  79
Penn State Hazleton  (USCAA)  69,  Baptist Bible  51
Penn State York  (USCAA)  66,  Dickinson  64
Philadelphia Bible  80,  Washington Bible  (Other)  72
Pitt-Greensburg  83,  Penn State New Kensington  (USCAA)  36
Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  76,  Lewis and Clark  73
Sewanee  57,  Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  50
St. John's  81,  Minnesota-Morehead  (NCAA-D2)  79
St. Vincent  80,  Penn State Fayette  (USCAA)  47
Texas-Dallas  99,  Jarvis Christian  (NAIA-D1)  59
Thiel  89,  Penn State Beaver  (USCAA)  71
UM-Crookston  (NCAA-D2)  80,  Minnesota-Morris  75
Washington and Jefferson  96,  Penn State Mont Alto  (USCAA)  56
Wentworth  83,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  65
Whittier  77,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  75
Wilkes  98,  Penn Tech  (USCAA)  57
William Jessup  (NAIA-D2)  106,  Whitman  91

missing score from 11/20
Occidental  85,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  66


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           17
NCAA D2      4           17
NAIA D1       4            6
NAIA D2       23         26
NCCAA         11           5
USCAA         28           7
Other           15          2


A real early battle for NAIA D2  vs NCAA D3 Supemecy!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2009, 08:39:37 PM
Games of 11/22/09 :

Baylor  (NCAA-D1)  106,  Hardin-Simmons  45
D'Youville  97,  Paul Smith's  (NAIA-D2)  53
Marygrove  (NAIA-D2)  67,  Mount Union  64
Texas A&M Kingsville  (NCAA-D2)  81,  Texas Lutheran  69
Webber International  (NAIA-D2)  85,  Concordia-Austin  68
Yeshiva  64,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2009, 09:16:06 PM
Games of 11/23/09

Gallaudet  100,  Christendom  (USCAA)  59
LSU-Shreveport  (NAIA-D1)  81,  East Texas Baptist  69
Maranatha Baptist  56,  Emmaus  (NCCAA-D2)  55
Medgar Evers  123,  Pratt  (Other)  45
Penn State Allegheny  (USCAA)  64,  Waynesburg  60
Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  85,  Blackburn  72
Rust  101,  Blue Mountain  (NAIA-D1)  87
Saginaw Valley  (NCAA-D2)  75,  Olivet  62
Texas A&M International  (NCAA-D2)  67,  Sul Ross State  63
Wilkes  71,  Penn Tech  (USCAA)  60


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           18
NCAA D2      4           20
NAIA D1       5            7
NAIA D2       24         28
NCCAA         12           5
USCAA         30          10
Other           17          2

NCAA D3 slides another game behind NAIA D2    -    keep your eye on it !!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2009, 02:53:29 AM
Games of 11/24/09

Central  90,  Faith Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  51
Colby  80,  Maine-Fort Kent  (NAIA-D2)  75
Concordia (Wis.)  97,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  76
Concordia-Austin  98,  St. Edward's  (NCAA-D2)  91
Concordia-Moorhead  54,  MSU-Moorhead  (NCAA-D2)  53
Delaware State  (NCAA-D1)  59,  Mary Washington  43
Dubuque  79,  Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  75
Eastern  68,  Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  63
Edinboro  (NCAA-D2)  83,  Thiel  74
Evergreen  (NAIA-D2)  91,  Pacific Lutheran  82
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  81,  Nichols  66
George Fox  99,  Corban  (NAIA-D2)  91
Grand View  (NAIA-D2)  73,  Simpson  54
Greenville  81,  St. Louis Christian  (Other)  72
Grove City  82,  Penn State Beaver  (USCAA)  59
Hastings  (NAIA-D2)  66,  Nebraska Wesleyan  62
Illinois-Springfield  (NAIA-D1)  115,  MacMurray  60
Jarvis Christian  (NAIA-D1)  63,  Texas-Tyler  59
Keuka  88,  SUNY-Canton  (NAIA-D2)  51
Lehman  80,  Vaughn  (Other)  48
LSU-Shreveport  (NAIA-D1)  82,  LeTourneau  68
Marywood  98,  Penn State Scranton  (USCAA)  69
Middlebury  87,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  56
Montclair State  80,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  39
North Carolina Pembroke  (NCAA-D2)  79,  North Carolina Wesleyan  75
Northern Michigan  (NCAA-D2)  81,  Northland  42
Northwest Christian  (NAIA-D2)  66,  Pacific  55
Occidental  75,  American Sports U  (Other)  51
Philadelphia Bible  66,  Davis  (NCCAA-D2)  57
Piedmont  106,  Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  57
Presentation  83,  Trinity Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  63
Principia  59,  St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D2)  58
Randolph  80,  Virginia Intermont  (NAIA-D2)  52
Rhema Bible  (USCAA)  69,  University of the Ozarks  66
Rockford  115,  Trinity International  (NAIA-D2)  108
Rose-Hulman  70,  Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  64
Southern Virginia  (NAIA-D2)  91,  Bridgewater (Va.)  66
St. Catherine  (USCAA)  84,  Spalding  67
St. Martin's  (NCAA-D2)  74,  Puget Sound  72
UW-La Crosse  62,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  59


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           19
NCAA D2      6           24
NAIA D1       5           10
NAIA D2     34           34             
NCCAA       16             5
USCAA        35           13
Other          21            2

D3  and NAIA D2   all even !!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2009, 03:16:33 AM
Games of 11/25/09

Davidson  (NCAA-D1)  78,  Fredonia State  37
Missouri Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  105,  Principia  65
Whitman  86,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  69

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           20
NCAA D2      6           24
NAIA D1       5           11
NAIA D2     34           34             
NCCAA       17             5
USCAA        35           13
Other          21            2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2009, 07:53:12 PM
Games of 11/27/09

tough day for D3, as we go 0-6

Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  71,  Hope  59
Chico State  (NCAA-D2)  74,  Lewis and Clark  62
Cornerstone  (NAIA-D2)  77,  Calvin  65
Embry-Riddle  (NAIA-D2)  77,  Framingham State  49
Southern Oregon  (NAIA-D2)  97,  Willamette  71
Southern Virginia  (NAIA-D2)  76,  Wesley  71


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           20
NCAA D2      6           25
NAIA D1       5           11
NAIA D2     34           39             
NCCAA       17             5
USCAA        35          14
Other          21            2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 29, 2009, 09:02:27 AM
Clarification please...

Covenant TN, Berry GA and PSU Abington are the first year provisional members this year.

PSU-Abington is competing in the NEAC.

Covenant has several games against D-3 schools.

Do we count their games?  Do we ignore their outcomes?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 29, 2009, 09:34:51 AM
Right or wrong, I have PSU Abington in as a D3 school - their entire schedule is D3, including a full NEAC schedule, and I (wrongly) assumed they were missing in error from D3hoops mention

Covenent plays 10 games against D3, I have them counted as NAIA D2

Berry plays 2 games against D3, I have them counted as NAIA-D1

My base was schools that this site lists, though there is at least one error.. ie Maryville Mo is still listed and should be taken off.... I caught Abington because of the NEAC connection - Spalding is similar, but they are listed on D3 hoops....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 29, 2009, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 29, 2009, 09:34:51 AM
Right or wrong, I have PSU Abington in as a D3 school - their entire schedule is D3, including a full NEAC schedule, and I (wrongly) assumed they were missing in error from D3hoops mention

Covenent plays 10 games against D3, I have them counted as NAIA D2

Berry plays 2 games against D3, I have them counted as NAIA-D1

My base was schools that this site lists, though there is at least one error.. ie Maryville Mo is still listed and should be taken off.... I caught Abington because of the NEAC connection - Spalding is similar, but they are listed on D3 hoops....
That is sound logic.

Thanks for taking the baton from Rhodes Scholar this season.  I look forward to following your work!   :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 29, 2009, 09:25:29 PM
Games of 11/28/09

Christopher Newport  93,  Southern Virginia  (NAIA-D2)  82
Dakota Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  86,  UW-La Crosse  75
Embry-Riddle  (NAIA-D2)  85,  Mount Ida  67
Gallaudet  87,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  81
Lewis and Clark  71,  Sonoma State  (NCAA-D2)  64
Maryland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  71,  D'Youville  68
Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  75,  Marian  63
Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  79,  Linfield  59
Oregon Tech  (NAIA-D2)  95,  Willamette  81
Pacific  78,  Corban  (NAIA-D2)  65
Pitt-Greensburg  82,  Penn State Allegheny  (USCAA)  55
Rockford  90,  Clarke  (NAIA-D2)  82
Rutgers-Camden  92,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  60
SE Louisiana  (NCAA-D1)  81,  Millsaps  49
Sioux Falls  (NAIA-D2)  77,  UW-River Falls  74
Wartburg  88,  Waldorf  (NAIA-D2)  81


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           21
NCAA D2      7           25
NAIA D1       5           12
NAIA D2     38           45             
NCCAA       17             6
USCAA       40           14
Other         21             2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 30, 2009, 05:20:58 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 29, 2009, 09:34:51 AMCovenent plays 10 games against D3, I have them counted as NAIA D2

Berry plays 2 games against D3, I have them counted as NAIA-D1

Berry and Covenant are listed as provisional members on the NAIA website, which means that they are considered to be part of the organization but are not eligible for postseason participation. I think that the NAIA instituted a rule a few years ago that prohibits schools that are in the midst of transferring membership from NAIA to NCAA from participating in NAIA championship tournaments -- a sound policy, I think, since defectors shouldn't be rewarded with the chance to dance.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 30, 2009, 09:26:30 PM
Games of 11/29/09

D'Youville  79,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  73
Gallaudet  96,  Maryland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  85
Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  87,  UW-Stout  84
RPI  104,  Paul Smith's  (NAIA-D2)  51

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           21
NCAA D2      7           25
NAIA D1       4           10
NAIA D2     39           46             
NCCAA       18             6
USCAA       41           14
Other         21             2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2009, 08:41:26 PM
games of 11/30/09:

Berea  (NAIA-D2)  71,  Centre  59
Birmingham-Southern  81,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  71
Geneva  72,  Penn State Beaver  (USCAA)  64
Juniata  78,  Penn State Wilkes-Barre  (USCAA)  57
Kutztown  (NCAA-D2)  96,  Penn State-Berks  51
Millikin  58,  Maryville (Mo.)  (NCAA-D2)  39
Misericordia  89,  Penn State Scranton  (USCAA)  53
Northern Michigan  (NCAA-D2)  90,  Finlandia  77
Penn State Abington  64,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  50
VMI  (NCAA-D1)  108,  Lynchburg  93

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           22
NCAA D2      8           27
NAIA D1       4           10
NAIA D2     39           47             
NCCAA       19             6
USCAA       45           14
Other         21             2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 08:51:15 PM
C'mon guys - I don't really expect a winning record against NAIA D1, but we ought to have a winning record against NAIA D2!

Millikin's 19-point win over D2 Maryville is welcome, but also no big deal (as was their win last year against D1 SIU-E); Maryville was SLIAC last year, and I'll be at least mildly surprised if they win a single game this year.

Someone needs to take down a D1 (I hate that donut on the left side!) - what additional chances do we have this season?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 01, 2009, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 08:51:15 PM
C'mon guys - I don't really expect a winning record against NAIA D1, but we ought to have a winning record against NAIA D2!

Millikin's 19-point win over D2 Maryville is welcome, but also no big deal (as was their win last year against D1 SIU-E); Maryville was SLIAC last year, and I'll be at least mildly surprised if they win a single game this year.

Someone needs to take down a D1 (I hate that donut on the left side!) - what additional chances do we have this season?

UT-Dallas at UT-Arlington.  They did it in 2006-07.

McMurry at UT-San Antonio, but not likely.
Louisiana College at Lamar TX, but not likely.
Texas Lutheran at Texas State, definitely unlikely.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 01, 2009, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 08:51:15 PM
C'mon guys - I don't really expect a winning record against NAIA D1, but we ought to have a winning record against NAIA D2!


Only 3 seasons ago NAIA II had a winning record vs D3, its usually pretty close.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2007, 10:04:33 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....10-73
NAIA 1....21-41
NAIA 2....90-101
NCCAA 1....8-7
NCCAA 2....56-12
USCAA....51-26
Other....72-11

(Totals through 2/23)

Final totals for 2006-07 season
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 01, 2009, 10:02:43 PM
MIT plays at Harvard December 28.  This could be a tough one, though, Harvard is out to one of their best starts in recent years at 5-1, with their first win over Boston University in 34 years this past Sunday.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scout on December 01, 2009, 10:21:25 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 01, 2009, 10:02:43 PM
MIT plays at Harvard December 28.  This could be a tough one, though, Harvard is out to one of their best starts in recent years at 5-1, with their first win over Boston University in 34 years this past Sunday.

Although, Harvard's one loss is to Army (believe it or not, the Black Knights are 4-1). In that game, Harvard gave up 16 and 12 points each to a pair of guards (6' 1" and 6' 4" respectively).

Maybe Jimmy Burke can continue his hot hand and lead MIT to a cross-town upset.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: sac on December 01, 2009, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 08:51:15 PM
C'mon guys - I don't really expect a winning record against NAIA D1, but we ought to have a winning record against NAIA D2!


Only 3 seasons ago NAIA II had a winning record vs D3, its usually pretty close.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2007, 10:04:33 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....10-73
NAIA 1....21-41
NAIA 2....90-101
NCCAA 1....8-7
NCCAA 2....56-12
USCAA....51-26
Other....72-11

(Totals through 2/23)

Final totals for 2006-07 season

Yeah, I know we sometimes lose to them - but we should NOT! ::)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on December 01, 2009, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: sac on December 01, 2009, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 08:51:15 PM
C'mon guys - I don't really expect a winning record against NAIA D1, but we ought to have a winning record against NAIA D2!


Only 3 seasons ago NAIA II had a winning record vs D3, its usually pretty close.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2007, 10:04:33 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....10-73
NAIA 1....21-41
NAIA 2....90-101
NCCAA 1....8-7
NCCAA 2....56-12
USCAA....51-26
Other....72-11

(Totals through 2/23)

Final totals for 2006-07 season

Yeah, I know we sometimes lose to them - but we should NOT! ::)

Why not?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 10:43:48 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 01, 2009, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: sac on December 01, 2009, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 08:51:15 PM
C'mon guys - I don't really expect a winning record against NAIA D1, but we ought to have a winning record against NAIA D2!


Only 3 seasons ago NAIA II had a winning record vs D3, its usually pretty close.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2007, 10:04:33 AM
D3 vs.

D1....1-44
D2....10-73
NAIA 1....21-41
NAIA 2....90-101
NCCAA 1....8-7
NCCAA 2....56-12
USCAA....51-26
Other....72-11

(Totals through 2/23)

Final totals for 2006-07 season

Yeah, I know we sometimes lose to them - but we should NOT! ::)

Why not?

et tu, Brute?

Because we are d3, confound it! ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 01, 2009, 10:45:58 PM
Oh Mr. Y, head down to Adrian and take in a game with Sienna Heights against Cornerstone, Aquinas or Davenport and you will learn quickly.  Spring Arbor's not to far from you, take in an MCC team or two like Bethel.

NAIA II in the Midwest is pretty good.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 01, 2009, 11:59:02 PM
Hey may mean we should not lose to NAIA-2 out of respect for the D-3 ethos. Or something. Or other.

I know in Indiana NAIA - 2 is pretty decent. The Mid-Central Conference has some traditionally tough teams.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 02, 2009, 12:27:12 AM
Quote from: scout on December 01, 2009, 10:21:25 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 01, 2009, 10:02:43 PM
MIT plays at Harvard December 28.  This could be a tough one, though, Harvard is out to one of their best starts in recent years at 5-1, with their first win over Boston University in 34 years this past Sunday.

Although, Harvard's one loss is to Army (believe it or not, the Black Knights are 4-1). In that game, Harvard gave up 16 and 12 points each to a pair of guards (6' 1" and 6' 4" respectively).

Maybe Jimmy Burke can continue his hot hand and lead MIT to a cross-town upset.

MIT has some big bodies this year (4 guys 6'8" - 6'10"), so it is not out of the realm of possibility that they wont get killed by Harvards bigs (which would allow MITs shooters to maybe make some shots and keep them in the game), but I am not going to get too excited yet.  Maybe if MIT starts playing better and is undefeated at that point, I may think they have a shot (especially if Harvard has a couple guys injured).  Harvard actually has quite a few freshman playing also, so you never know what can happen in any given game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2009, 12:41:21 AM
Quote from: sac on December 01, 2009, 10:45:58 PM
Oh Mr. Y, head down to Adrian and take in a game with Sienna Heights against Cornerstone, Aquinas or Davenport and you will learn quickly.  Spring Arbor's not to far from you, take in an MCC team or two like Bethel.

NAIA II in the Midwest is pretty good.

Don't even have to go to Adrian - CUAA is NAIA, five miles from home.

You guys are being too literal.  When I was a Titan, IWU was a member of both, but did post-season in NAIA (there weren't separate divisions then, and our opponents included WSUC [now WIAC] and EMU, among many others).  The quality of NAIA D2 is irrelevant - I'm a D3 fan, therefore they should beat NAIA D2! ;D

Quit trying to confuse me with facts! :D  (But, more years than not, D3 does beat NAIA D2 - that is a 'fact' I can live with!)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 02, 2009, 12:44:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2009, 12:41:21 AM
Quote from: sac on December 01, 2009, 10:45:58 PM
Oh Mr. Y, head down to Adrian and take in a game with Sienna Heights against Cornerstone, Aquinas or Davenport and you will learn quickly.  Spring Arbor's not to far from you, take in an MCC team or two like Bethel.

NAIA II in the Midwest is pretty good.

Don't even have to go to Adrian - CUAA is NAIA, five miles from home.


If you go there you'll only see one good team  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2009, 12:52:27 AM
Quote from: sac on December 02, 2009, 12:44:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2009, 12:41:21 AM
Quote from: sac on December 01, 2009, 10:45:58 PM
Oh Mr. Y, head down to Adrian and take in a game with Sienna Heights against Cornerstone, Aquinas or Davenport and you will learn quickly.  Spring Arbor's not to far from you, take in an MCC team or two like Bethel.

NAIA II in the Midwest is pretty good.

Don't even have to go to Adrian - CUAA is NAIA, five miles from home.


If you go there you'll only see one good team  ;)

Believe it or not, CUAA is 4-3 this year. :o  That is usually about a decade's worth of wins! ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 13wapiti on December 02, 2009, 01:11:07 PM
While not a powerhouse by any means CUAA is actually 60-73 from 05-06 to present.  That includes a 10-3 record vs. DIII and a 7-2 vs. MIAA.  Of course none of those games involved Hope or Calvin.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 02, 2009, 03:06:32 PM
Quote from: 13wapiti on December 02, 2009, 01:11:07 PM
While not a powerhouse by any means CUAA is actually 60-73 from 05-06 to present.  That includes a 10-3 record vs. DIII and a 7-2 vs. MIAA.  Of course none of those games involved Hope or Calvin.

......and about 10 of those 60 came from Andrews, Marygrove, Holy Cross(not that Holy Cross) and Notre Dame (not that Notre Dame.)

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2009, 12:52:27 AM

Believe it or not, CUAA is 4-3 this year. :o  That is usually about a decade's worth of wins! ;)

4-3.........what do you know wins over Notre Dame, Holy Cross and Alma twice, a combined 2-20. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 02, 2009, 03:14:55 PM
Quote from: sac on December 02, 2009, 03:06:32 PM
Quote from: 13wapiti on December 02, 2009, 01:11:07 PM
While not a powerhouse by any means CUAA is actually 60-73 from 05-06 to present.  That includes a 10-3 record vs. DIII and a 7-2 vs. MIAA.  Of course none of those games involved Hope or Calvin.

......and about 10 of those 60 came from Andrews, Marygrove, Holy Cross(not that Holy Cross) and Notre Dame (not that Notre Dame.)

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2009, 12:52:27 AM

Believe it or not, CUAA is 4-3 this year. :o  That is usually about a decade's worth of wins! ;)

4-3.........what do you know wins over Notre Dame, Holy Cross and Alma twice, a combined 2-20. ;)

It's all just a part of the grand conspiracy to keep Chuck from attending any more college basketball games. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2009, 04:50:19 PM
Games of 12/1/09

Belhaven  (NAIA-D1)  105,  Rust  84
Carthage  104,  Indiana-Northwest  (USCAA)  67
Concordia (Mi.)  (NAIA-D2)  59,  Alma  56
Concordia (Ore.)  (NAIA-D2)  99,  Linfield  90
Drew  77,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  66
Fredonia State  64,  Houghton  (NAIA-D2)  60
Hope  97,  Trinity Christian  (NAIA-D2)  80
Johnson State  72,  Vermont Technical  (NAIA-D2)  66
Lancaster Bible  73,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  58
Mankato State  (NCAA-D2)  110,  Bethany Lutheran  65
Maryland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  82,  Goucher  79
Mayville State  (NAIA-D2)  72,  Minnesota-Morris  63
Occidental  98,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  55
Pacific  109,  Multnomah  (NCCAA-D2)  90
Polytechnic  75,  Pratt  (Other)  54
Potsdam State  104,  SUNY-Canton  (NAIA-D2)  62
Siena Heights  (NAIA-D2)  48,  Adrian  45
Tennessee Temple  (NCCAA-D1)  78,  Sewanee  74
Texas Lutheran  78,  St. Thomas (Tx.)  (NAIA-D2)  64
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  88,  Penn State-Harrisburg  84


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           22
NCAA D2      8           28
NAIA D1       4           11
NAIA D2     44           51             
NCCAA       21             9
USCAA       47           15
Other         23             2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on December 03, 2009, 12:02:33 AM
Maryville (TN) 69 - Carson Newman (NCAA D2) 56.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 04, 2009, 04:38:26 AM
Results of 12/2/09

Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  79,  Maine Maritime  71
Maryville (Tenn.)  69,  Carson-Newman  (NCAA-D2)  56
Nebraska Wesleyan  82,  Dana  (NAIA-D2)  73
Oakland City  (NCAA-D2)  75,  Principia  59
Scranton  82,  Penn State Hazleton  (USCAA)  58
Southern Virginia  (NAIA-D2)  82,  Shenandoah  79
St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  78,  Johnson State  73
Trine  69,  Purdue-North Central  (NAIA-D2)  62
UW-Platteville  62,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  60

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           22
NCAA D2      9           29
NAIA D1       4           11
NAIA D2     47           53             
NCCAA       21             9
USCAA       48           17
Other         23             2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 04, 2009, 07:10:47 AM
Va. Wesleyan 76, Apprentice (USCAA) 73, OT
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 04, 2009, 12:17:08 PM
Games of 12/3/09

Christopher Newport  101,  Maryland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  56
Colby-Sawyer  94,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  70
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  93,  Western New England  84
George Fox  69,  Menlo  (NAIA-D2)  67
Grace Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  73,  Maranatha Baptist  61
Hawaii Pacific  (NCAA-D2)  72,  La Verne  63
Lyndon State  91,  Vermont Technical  (NAIA-D2)  75
New Jersey Tech  (NCAA-D1)  78,  SUNY-Cobleskill  40
North Park  85,  Trinity International  (NAIA-D2)  82
Redlands  104,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  73
Virginia Wesleyan  76,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  73

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           23
NCAA D2      9           30
NAIA D1       4           11
NAIA D2     51           54             
NCCAA       23           10
USCAA       49           17
Other         23            2

INCHING BACK TOWARDS .500 vs NAIA D@!!!!!

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2009, 07:08:15 PM
Games of 12/4/09

Alma  71,  Michigan-Dearborn  (NAIA-D2)  68
Bates  90,  Maine-Machias  (NAIA-D2)  63
Chaminade  (NCAA-D2)  71,  La Verne  66
Husson  81,  Maine-Fort Kent  (NAIA-D2)  75
Maranatha Baptist  75,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  48
Olivet  79,  Madonna  (NAIA-D2)  55
Washington U.  82,  McKendree  (NAIA-D1)  67

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           23
NCAA D2      9           31
NAIA D1       5           11
NAIA D2     55           54             
NCCAA       24           10
USCAA       49           17
Other         23            2

D3 back ahead of NAIA D2!!!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
Games of 12/5/09

Adrian  58,  Notre Dame  (NAIA-D2)  53
Alma  62,  Madonna  (NAIA-D2)  60
Central Baptist  (NCCAA-D1)  76,  Principia  63
Colby  79,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  54
Eastern Mennonite  97,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  44
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  87,  Wentworth  77
Linfield  80,  Corban  (NAIA-D2)  63
Maranatha Baptist  54,  Emmaus  (NCCAA-D2)  51
Menlo  (NAIA-D2)  79,  UC Santa Cruz  75
Morrisville State  76,  Paul Smith's  (NAIA-D2)  73
Mount Marty  (NAIA-D2)  66,  Nebraska Wesleyan  44
Norwich  79,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  68
Olivet  89,  Michigan-Dearborn  (NAIA-D2)  81
Pacific Lutheran  67,  Northwest Christian  (NAIA-D2)  63
Purdue-Calumet  (NAIA-D2)  78,  Trine  60
RPI  108,  Albany College of Pharmacy  (Other)  51
Whittier  103,  Holy Names  (NAIA-D2)  101
Whitworth  72,  McKendree  (NAIA-D1)  69
Wiley  (NAIA-D1)  76,  Rust  59
Willamette  87,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  62

Missing : Greenville  -  St Louis Pharma

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           23
NCAA D2      9           31
NAIA D1       6           12
NAIA D2     63           58             
NCCAA       26           11
USCAA       51           18
Other         24            2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 06, 2009, 06:23:09 PM
I'm liking that 'NAIA 2' line MUCH better, thank you very much! :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2009, 06:34:58 PM
In large part to Alma and Olivet hosting a weekend classic vs NAIA D2 Madonna and Mich Dearborn and going 4-0!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OC_SID on December 06, 2009, 09:23:40 PM
Actually, the challenge was at Madonna ... So, the MIAA swept the games at a NAIA D2 home court!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 06, 2009, 11:15:23 PM
Quote from: OC_SID on December 06, 2009, 09:23:40 PM
Actually, the challenge was at Madonna ... So, the MIAA swept the games at a NAIA D2 home court!!

Do they get bonus points for that?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 07, 2009, 08:56:21 AM
Sure, why not?   :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2009, 08:51:46 PM
Games of 12/6

Green Mountain  75,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  61
Maine Maritime  89,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  62
Occidental  73,  Holy Names  (NAIA-D2)  65
Southern Vermont  97,  Albany College of Pharmacy  (Other)  56

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           23
NCAA D2      9           31
NAIA D1       6           12
NAIA D2     65           58             
NCCAA       26           11
USCAA       52           18
Other         25            2

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 08, 2009, 12:46:48 AM
Here's a puzzler for you, Hopefan. I announced on CCIW Chat yesterday, and again on the North Park webcast tonight, that East-West University fits into what we list in this room as the "Other" category. However, the EWU head coach informed NPU's head coach, Paul Brenegan, tonight at the game that EWU is actually an independent within NAIA-2. Thing is, EWU isn't listed on the NAIA website as an NAIA-2 school ... or as an NAIA-1 school, either, for that matter.

North Park beat East-West tonight, 72-55. Put the win for D3 into whichever category you think best, I guess.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 08, 2009, 12:50:22 AM
Games of 12/7

North Park  72,  East-West  (Other)  55

Prior Missed 12/5/09

Greenville  72,  St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D2)  44

D3 record vs:
                   W         L            
NCAA D1      0           23
NCAA D2      9           31
NAIA D1       6           12
NAIA D2     66           58            
NCCAA       26           11
USCAA       52           18
Other         26            2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2009, 04:49:05 AM
Games of 12/8/09

Corban  (NAIA-D2)  82,  George Fox  72
Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  57,  Sewanee  54
DePauw  92,  Purdue-North Central  (NAIA-D2)  70
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  97,  Fitchburg State  77
Lancaster Bible  92,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  53
Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  75,  Greenville  72
Principia  54,  Concordia St. Louis  (Other)  53
Puget Sound  86,  Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  85
Rhodes  70,  Free Will Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  43


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           23
NCAA D2      9           31
NAIA D1       6           12
NAIA D2     68           61             
NCCAA       27           12
USCAA       53           18
Other         27            2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2009, 07:52:56 PM
Games of 12/9/09

Campbellsville  (NAIA-D1)  66,  Spalding  52
Gonzaga  (NCAA-D1)  79,  Augustana  40
Harris-Stowe  (NAIA-D1)  71,  Blackburn  46
Jamestown  (NAIA-D2)  65,  Minnesota-Morris  61
Lamar  (NCAA-D1)  79,  Louisiana College  64
Portland State  (NCAA-D1)  85,  Linfield  52
Texas-Tyler  68,  Southwestern Adventist  (Other)  33

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           26
NCAA D2      9           31
NAIA D1       6           14
NAIA D2     68           62             
NCCAA       27           12
USCAA       49           15
Other         28            2

Just noticed I had 2 schools listed in both USCAA and D3  -   This is now corrected.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 11, 2009, 09:03:01 AM
games of 12/10/09    TOUGH DAY FOR D3

Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Calvin  67
Biola  (NAIA-D1)  77,  Whittier  66
Davenport  (NAIA-D2)  82,  Olivet  72
Maine  (NCAA-D1)  133,  Maine-Presque Isle  58
Mercer  (NCAA-D1)  87,  Piedmont  62
West Chester  (NCAA-D2)  82,  Neumann  65

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           28
NCAA D2      9           32
NAIA D1       6           15
NAIA D2     68           64             
NCCAA       27           12
USCAA       49           15
Other         28            2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 11, 2009, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 11, 2009, 09:03:01 AM
games of 12/10/09    TOUGH DAY FOR D3

Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Calvin  67
Biola  (NAIA-D1)  77,  Whittier  66
Davenport  (NAIA-D2)  82,  Olivet  72
Maine  (NCAA-D1)  133,  Maine-Presque Isle  58
Mercer  (NCAA-D1)  87,  Piedmont  62
West Chester  (NCAA-D2)  82,  Neumann  65

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           28
NCAA D2      9           32
NAIA D1       6           15
NAIA D2     68           64             
NCCAA       27           12
USCAA       49           15
Other         28            2


Looks like Maine avenged their beatdown by SU.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2009, 11:40:08 AM
games of 12/11/09

Black Hills State  (NAIA-D2)  66,  Minnesota-Morris  61
Delaware Valley  79,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  44
Dickinson  55,  Williamson Trade  (USCAA)  50
Hope  96,  Purdue-North Central  (NAIA-D2)  73
Maryville (Mo.)  (NCAA-D2)  61,  Webster  60
Missouri Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  63,  Millikin  62
Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Cornell  61
Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  73,  George Fox  61
Rowan  82,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  60
Thomas  92,  Maine-Machias  (NAIA-D2)  79
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  78,  Messiah  74
Warner Pacific  (NAIA-D2)  90,  Linfield  71
Willamette  78,  Corban  (NAIA-D2)  74

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           28
NCAA D2      9           33
NAIA D1       6           16
NAIA D2      71          68             
NCCAA        27          13
USCAA        51          15
Other         29            2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2009, 02:04:42 PM
Games of 12/12/09

Anna Maria  75,  Maine-Machias  (NAIA-D2)  72
Arcadia  65,  Penn State Hazleton  (USCAA)  39
Azusa Pacific  (NAIA-D1)  93,  Redlands  75
Berry  (NAIA-D1)  60,  Lagrange  56
Biola  (NAIA-D1)  53,  Pomona-Pitzer  38
Black Hills State  (NAIA-D2)  66,  Presentation  64
Cal State Fullerton  (NCAA-D1)  97,  Occidental  59
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  75,  Hope International  (NAIA-D1)  63
Coastal Carolina  (NCAA-D1)  91,  Bridgewater (Va.)  42
Concordia (Ore.)  (NAIA-D2)  102,  Pacific  100
Evergreen  (NAIA-D2)  78,  Linfield  63
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  69,  Rochester Tech  68
Green Mountain  91,  Paul Smith's  (NAIA-D2)  59
Loras  92,  Ashford  (NAIA-D2)  85
Lynchburg  74,  Maryland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  64
Maine-Fort Kent  (NAIA-D2)  87,  Maine Maritime  68
Messiah  57,  Williamson Trade  (USCAA)  55
Mississippi College  89,  Wesley (Ms.)  (NCCAA-D2)  75
Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Cornell  61
Nebraska Wesleyan  60,  Doane  (NAIA-D2)  50
Ohio Dominican  (NAIA-D2)  65,  Hope  58
Olivet  74,  Spring Arbor  (NAIA-D2)  70
Pacific Lutheran  67,  Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  64
Piedmont  83,  Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  62
Southern Virginia  (NAIA-D2)  92,  Eastern Mennonite  79
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  66,  Dickinson  59
Virginia-Wise  (NAIA-D2)  89,  Emory and Henry  74
Wartburg  81,  Waldorf  (NAIA-D2)  72

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           30
NCAA D2      9           33
NAIA D1       7           19
NAIA D2      79          77             
NCCAA        29          14
USCAA        53          16
Other         29            2

NAIA D2 just about back to even!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2009, 08:26:24 PM
Games of 12/13/09

Dartmouth  (NCAA-D1)  83,  Lyndon State  54
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  72,  Fredonia State  71
Radford  (NCAA-D1)  99,  Roanoke  67
Salisbury  86,  Maryland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  71
Whitworth  77,  Montana Tech  (NAIA-D1)  58

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           32
NCAA D2      9           33
NAIA D1       8           19
NAIA D2      79          78             
NCCAA        30          14
USCAA        53          16
Other         29            2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2009, 04:40:02 AM
Games of 12/14/09

Virginia Wesleyan  69,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  55
Northwood (Mi.)  (NCAA-D2)  68,  Kalamazoo  45
Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  79,  UC Santa Cruz  77

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           32
NCAA D2      9           34
NAIA D1       8           19
NAIA D2      79          79             
NCCAA        30          14
USCAA        54          16
Other          29            2

Aargh   NAIA D2 has gotten back to .500
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 16, 2009, 09:25:05 PM
Games of 12/15/09

Regis (Col.)  (NCAA-D2)  61,  Colorado College  52
Rutgers-Newark  89,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  33

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           32
NCAA D2      9           35
NAIA D1       8           19
NAIA D2      79          79             
NCCAA        30          14
USCAA        54          16
Other          30            2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 13wapiti on December 17, 2009, 07:53:13 AM
12-15

Spring Arbor (NAIA-DII) over Albion 73-53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2009, 09:19:22 AM
thanks 13wapiti, thru the combination of me not having that game on my mastersched for that date and the fact that the score came up on D3hoops later than most, I missed that result..   +1 K to you!!

Another score that was MIA from 12/12/09 just appeared...

Alice Lloyd (NAIA-D2)  65,  Spalding  63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2009, 09:44:03 AM
Games of 12/16/09

Defiance  90,  Madonna  (NAIA-D2)  79
Ashford  (NAIA-D2)  90,  Coe  80

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1      0           32
NCAA D2      9           35
NAIA D1       8           19
NAIA D2      80          82             
NCCAA        30          14
USCAA        54          16
Other          30            2

Ugh, we have fallen behind NAIA D2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
D3 vs NCAA-D1     average score to date  D1  89.8    D3 56.7

Games point spread under 20

Whitman   88   Eastern Washington   100
North Carolina Wesleyan   70   North  Carolina Central   85
La Verne   71   Cal Riverside   87
Mary Washington   43   Delaware State   59
Lynchburg   93   VMI   108
Louisiana College   64   Lamar   79
Games point spread over 48

Maine-Presque Isle   58   Maine   133
Hardin-Simmons   45   Baylor   106
Bridgewater (Va.)   42   Coastal Carolina   91
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2009, 12:04:02 PM
Games of 12/17/09

Blackburn  90,  Concordia St. Louis  (Other)  79
Centre  68,  Asbury  (NAIA-D2)  49
Davidson  (NCAA-D1)  90,  New Jersey  49
Lawrence  72,  Trinity (Fla.)  (NCCAA-D2)  58
Southwest Minnesota  (NCAA-D2)  82,  Minnesota-Morris  66


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0         35
NCAA D2      10        36
NAIA D1        8         19
NAIA D2       81        82             
NCCAA         31        14
USCAA         54        17
Other           32         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on December 18, 2009, 12:35:36 PM
From last night...

Indiana Tech 66 (NAIA 2)
North Central 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2009, 02:18:01 PM
Thanks TQ   +1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 19, 2009, 12:02:13 AM
You know what I didnt realize until looking back at the stats:  The Princeton team that was beaten by Carnegie Mellon in 05-06 actually ended up finishing 2nd in the Ivy league that year (10-4 in league play).  Pretty good win for a d3 vs. a d1.

Maybe MIT has a better shot than I thought this year against Harvard? (Or maybe there is no correlation between the two whatsoever?)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2009, 09:30:30 AM
Results 12/18/09

Lawrence  96,  Florida College  (USCAA)  52
Nova Southeastern  (NCAA-D2)  76,  Mount St. Joseph  68

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0         35
NCAA D2      10        37
NAIA D1        8         19
NAIA D2       81        83             
NCCAA         31        14
USCAA         55        17
Other           32         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2009, 09:42:45 AM
For those of you following the ongoing struggle for the NCAA-D3 vs NAIA-D2 championship, I have a very bad premonition....

Currently, NAIA-D2 is up 2 games on NCAA-D3

A look at the future schedules show a little more than 90 games between the two during the rest of the season, dependent on tourney matchups...

The bad news  -  brace yourselves

UMPI plays 14 of them
Santa Cruz plays 5
Nebraska Wesleyan, in a very tough NAIA Conf, plays 14...


the final two matchups  -  will they be a determining factor?
UMPI at SUNY Canton   2/18
Nebr. Wez hosts Morningside 2/20


D3 will have to VERY well in the remaining matchups to finish at .500......
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on December 19, 2009, 09:57:24 AM
12/18/2009

Calvin 86, Trinity Christian, Ill. 59 (NAIA II)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 19, 2009, 10:16:59 AM
The NAIA website shows that UMPI is participting for the NAIA championship, unlike Nebraska Wesleyan.

http://graphics.fansonly.com/schools/naia/member-services/championships/Qualifcation_Plans/qual_plans_pdf/qual_MBB_DII.pdf

Those UMPI losses are reckoned against UMPI for NAIA sake and UMPI is not likely to make the NAIA playoffs if they keep losing those games.

Since UMPI is competing for the championship in the Sunrise Conference, I propose that UMPI be considered for NAIA this season in the D3 versus the world tabulations.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2009, 11:52:47 AM
 I think this calls for a decision by Pat or Several of the HoFrs.  If I take UMPI, off of this list, I have to remove them from the Undefeated and Winless room also....  a place where they hold an almost reverential position.  Also I would wonder what Rhodes Scholar thinks.....
Hofr's, Pat, Rhodes, please comment.

Though it may be days before Pat is heard from again  -  the D3 Football game has been postponed due to snow.......Tough roads in those mountains....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 19, 2009, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 19, 2009, 11:52:47 AM
I think this calls for a decision by Pat or Several of the HoFrs.  If I take UMPI, off of this list, I have to remove them from the Undefeated and Winless room also....  a place where they hold an almost reverential position.  Also I would wonder what Rhodes Scholar thinks.....
Hofr's, Pat, Rhodes, please comment.

Though it may be days before Pat is heard from again  -  the D3 Football game has been postponed due to snow.......Tough roads in those mountains....

Oh, man - the quandary!

I really want D3 to finish ahead of NAIA D2.  On the other hand, UMPI is my pick in the winless 'survivor pool'!  While I wasn't asked to vote or comment anyway, put me down as 'firmly undecided'! :o
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 19, 2009, 02:49:04 PM
Since you've asked, Hopefan, I'm pretty much a "by the book" guy. And, unfortunately, in this case there's two books, and they contradict each other.

There are, to the best of my knowledge, three schools that hold dual membership in NCAA D3 and NAIA D2 that have men's basketball teams: Nebraska Wesleyan, Maine-Presque Isle, and Menlo. All three are members of conferences that have 100% NAIA affliations among their respective memberships, and each of those three conferences draws an automatic bid to the NAIA-2 tourney. In spite of that, we're all aware of the fact that NebWes declares for the D3 tourney every year, and has done so going back to the birth of D3 back in the mid-seventies. And, as usual, the NAIA-2 membership page thus shows NebWes as a non-participating member, while the D3 men's basketball championship handbook lists NebWes as a participating member. So far, so good.

Menlo, too, has been a predictable declaree in basketball for many, many years, except that the Oaks have gone the other way and declared for the NAIA in basketball. The NAIA-2 membership page to which Ralph linked indicates that this is once again the case. However, this year the D3 handbook lists Menlo as a participating member. And there's problem #1, as you can't declare for both. You have to choose one or the other every year; both national organizations insist upon that.

Menlo uses its D3 affiliation for football purposes at the moment. The California Pacific Conference -- the NAIA league to which Menlo belongs -- does not sponsor football, so the Oaks play in D3's Northwest Conference and declare for the D3 tourney in football every year. My guess is that this is the source of the mixup, and that the D3 men's basketball championship handbook is thus in error, rather than the NAIA-2 membership page.

UMPI is another matter. The Owls participate in the NAIA-affiliated Sunrise Conference in every sport except for men's and women's Nordic skiing, in which they participate in an NCAA-affiliated league that spans two different NCAA divisions. It's not likely that the people in Indianapolis who put together the 2009-10 D3 men's basketball championship handbook made the same sort of error with UMPI that they likely made with Menlo -- transposing the Nordic skiing membership roll onto the men's basketball membership roll in the same way that they transposed the football membership roll into men's basketball. For one thing, Nordic skiing is a very obscure and sparsely-sponsored sport on the collegiate level, and it's not likely that it would be used as a source of transferable information to another sport. For another, the EISA (the Nordic skiing league to which UMPI belongs) is a mixed-level NCAA league that includes D1 schools such as Dartmouth, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Harvard as well as UMPI and several NESCAC schools. Nobody compiling a list of D3 schools for another sport would thus look to the EISA as a source.

To make a long story short, I can't figure out where the mistake would've come from. I have no idea why the NCAA folks would think that UMPI was a participating member in men's basketball unless there was direct documentary evidence from UMPI that the Owls were declaring for D3 this year. But I have no evidence to the contrary that would indicate that the NAIA folks would be making a similar kind of mistake. And the Owls website doesn't offer a clue as to which way the door swung for UMPI this year in terms of postseason declaration.

Like Ralph, I surmise that UMPI is an NAIA-2 declaree this year, based mostly upon the fact that the Owls are a Sunrise Conference participant. But that's not conclusive. If I were you, Hopefan, I'd start setting aside this season's UMPI games both past and future while awaiting confirmation as to UMPI's final disposition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2009, 04:12:03 PM
I think in view of the timing of this information regarding the affliation of UMPI, we should continue to allow Mr. Ypsi to keep them as his pick in the winless pool, even if we discover they are not D3. Otherwise we'll never hear the end of it. (Dare I mention GS's Tyler Sanborn pick as reference? ;) :D ;D)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 19, 2009, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 19, 2009, 04:12:03 PM
[W]e should continue to allow Mr. Ypsi to [ ______________ ]. Otherwise we'll never hear the end of it.
Fixed.
;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 19, 2009, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 19, 2009, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 19, 2009, 04:12:03 PM
[W]e should continue to allow Mr. Ypsi to [ ______________ ]. Otherwise we'll never hear the end of it.
Fixed.
;)

Now, now, David. :-*

On the other hand, if it allows me to get away with stuff, why quit? ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 19, 2009, 05:52:00 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 19, 2009, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 19, 2009, 04:12:03 PM
[W]e should continue to allow Mr. Ypsi to [ ______________ ]. Otherwise we'll never hear the end of it.
Fixed.
;)

Best laugh I've had all day. Thanks, DC! :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2009, 06:23:08 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 19, 2009, 11:52:47 AM
Though it may be days before Pat is heard from again  -  the D3 Football game has been postponed due to snow.......Tough roads in those mountains....

Apparently it was only postponed a few hours, as Whitewater is winning 28-21 as of this moment, according to ESPN.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2009, 10:39:57 PM
You are right Magic  -  it was supposed to be on this morning at 10 central, but when I went to ESPN 2, it was Sports center... they eventually announced it had been postponed to mid afternoon.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 20, 2009, 12:02:22 AM
Menlo declares for D3 baseball in most seasons as well.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 20, 2009, 02:03:52 PM
Scores of Dec 19, 2009

Alma  88,  Marygrove  (NAIA-D2)  74
Army  (NCAA-D1)  62,  Mount St. Vincent  56     Closest score to D1 this season
Augsburg  68,  Sacred Heart (PR)  (Other)  65
Calvin  86,  Trinity Christian  (NAIA-D2)  59
Carthage  90,  Calumet St. Joseph  (NAIA-D2)  88
Concordia (California)  (NAIA-D1)  76,  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  55
Northwestern (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  85,  Buena Vista  73
SMU  (NCAA-D1)  77,  Occidental  49
Spring Arbor  (NAIA-D2)  63,  Hope  55
UW-Stout  72,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  61
Valparaiso  (NCAA-D1)  83,  Concordia (Wis.)  57
Warner Pacific  (NAIA-D2)  96,  Puget Sound  88
Waynesburg  80,  Penn State Fayette  (USCAA)  56
William and Mary  (NCAA-D1)  94,  Vassar  48

Standings with UMPI still considered D3   (waiting for any more input)

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0         39
NCAA D2      10        37
NAIA D1        8         20
NAIA D2       85        86             
NCCAA         31        14
USCAA         57        17
Other           33         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2009, 05:21:07 PM
hopefan: Regarding Maine-Presque Isle, I would agree with Ralph. The Owls are a member of  the Sunrise Conference (an NAIA 2 conference), and according to the NAIA website they are declaring for the NAIA tournament. Thus, I'd classify them NAIA 2 this year unless different info comes along.

The Army-Mount Saint Vincent game was very close from the opening tip. Army led by one at the half and the game was tied at 54 with 5:10 remaining. With the win, Army goes to 8-2 on the year.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 20, 2009, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 20, 2009, 02:03:52 PM

Army  (NCAA-D1)  62,  Mount St. Vincent  56     Closest score to D1 this season

Army beat Harvard by 3 (at Army) this year.  MIT plays Harvard in a week.  Maybe they have a shot?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 20, 2009, 07:26:43 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 20, 2009, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 20, 2009, 02:03:52 PM

Army  (NCAA-D1)  62,  Mount St. Vincent  56     Closest score to D1 this season

Army beat Harvard by 3 (at Army) this year.  MIT plays Harvard in a week.  Maybe they have a shot?

Assuming MIT is at least 4 points better than Mount St. Vincent, they've got a shot! ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 20, 2009, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 20, 2009, 07:26:43 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 20, 2009, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 20, 2009, 02:03:52 PM

Army  (NCAA-D1)  62,  Mount St. Vincent  56     Closest score to D1 this season

Army beat Harvard by 3 (at Army) this year.  MIT plays Harvard in a week.  Maybe they have a shot?

Assuming MIT is at least 4 points better than Mount St. Vincent, they've got a shot! ;D

And Harvard plays equally well on the road as at home.

I'm not trying to say they are the favorites, I'm just saying there's a chance.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on December 20, 2009, 09:33:22 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 20, 2009, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 20, 2009, 07:26:43 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 20, 2009, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 20, 2009, 02:03:52 PM

Army  (NCAA-D1)  62,  Mount St. Vincent  56     Closest score to D1 this season

Army beat Harvard by 3 (at Army) this year.  MIT plays Harvard in a week.  Maybe they have a shot?

Assuming MIT is at least 4 points better than Mount St. Vincent, they've got a shot! ;D

And Harvard plays equally well on the road as at home.

I'm not trying to say they are the favorites, I'm just saying there's a chance.

Any Dumb & Dumber fans in the house?


hugenerd: Hit me with it! Just give it to me straight! We came a long way just to play you, Harvard. The least you can do is level with me. What are our chances?

Harvard: Not good.

hugenerd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?

Harvard: I'd say more like one out of a million.

[pause]

hugenerd: So you're tellin' me there's a chance... *YEAH!*
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 20, 2009, 10:59:05 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 20, 2009, 09:33:22 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 20, 2009, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 20, 2009, 07:26:43 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 20, 2009, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 20, 2009, 02:03:52 PM

Army  (NCAA-D1)  62,  Mount St. Vincent  56     Closest score to D1 this season

Army beat Harvard by 3 (at Army) this year.  MIT plays Harvard in a week.  Maybe they have a shot?

Assuming MIT is at least 4 points better than Mount St. Vincent, they've got a shot! ;D

And Harvard plays equally well on the road as at home.

I'm not trying to say they are the favorites, I'm just saying there's a chance.

Any Dumb & Dumber fans in the house?


hugenerd: Hit me with it! Just give it to me straight! We came a long way just to play you, Harvard. The least you can do is level with me. What are our chances?

Harvard: Not good.

hugenerd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?

Harvard: I'd say more like one out of a million.

[pause]

hugenerd: So you're tellin' me there's a chance... *YEAH!*

I was thinking the same thing when I wrote it. Honest.

But I think their chances are better than one in a million.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: oldchap on December 21, 2009, 01:24:08 PM
Let me interject here and put in my 2 cents...

Since we're talking about MIT, I'm sure there are plenty of really smart (and academically well educated) people reading this forum. Therefore, I will call on an interesting, if not well known method for determining the outcome of a specific game. I'm talking about the "Massey Ratings" (http://www.masseyratings.com/).

I'm not going to go in the fine details of how this mathematical model works, however I will point you to one of the elements of their model that you can find here: http://www.masseyratings.com/theory/sched.htm

In there, written in laymens terms, you can find assumptions of probability for team A to beat team B. As you can see a "Great" team has 100% chance to beat a "Pathetic" team, but only 97% to beat a "Bad" team.

Of course the naming convention (great, good, average, etc.) used to rank teams is purely arbritrary because being classified as a "Great" team or a "Pathetic" team is not a judgment call. It will depend on your game history, in other words your record and who you played against.

I will let you guys debate this more objective way of looking at it....  :P
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 21, 2009, 01:43:04 PM
Quote from: oldchap on December 21, 2009, 01:24:08 PM
Let me interject here and put in my 2 cents...

Since we're talking about MIT, I'm sure there are plenty of really smart (and academically well educated) people reading this forum. Therefore, I will call on an interesting, if not well known method for determining the outcome of a specific game. I'm talking about the "Massey Ratings" (http://www.masseyratings.com/).

I'm not going to go in the fine details of how this mathematical model works, however I will point you to one of the elements of their model that you can find here: http://www.masseyratings.com/theory/sched.htm

In there, written in laymens terms, you can find assumptions of probability for team A to beat team B. As you can see a "Great" team has 100% chance to beat a "Pathetic" team, but only 97% to beat a "Bad" team.

Of course the naming convention (great, good, average, etc.) used to rank teams is purely arbritrary because being classified as a "Great" team or a "Pathetic" team is not a judgment call. It will depend on your game history, in other words your record and who you played against.

I will let you guys debate this more objective way of looking at it....  :P

I am pretty sure everyone who reads these boards is pretty well versed in the Massey ratings, because they are the only ratings that provide a mathematical comparison between divisions (that includes d3 teams).  However, there are a few flaws in your attempt to start a quantitative, or objective, analysis on this game.  1) Most importantly, the Massey ratings are not published until 2010 so there are no ratings for either team yet.  Therefore, even if you wanted to assign a number to the probability of MIT upsetting Harvard, you would be unable to at this point. 2)  Without a doubt Harvard will be the favorite in this game and I dont think it makes a big difference whether an algorithm says it is 2 to 1 or 30 to 1.  3) Anything can happen on any given day.  Massey publishes a list of the most "improbable" victories each year.  If the numbers always held, that list would not exist.  4) The reason Massey does not publish the ratings this early in the season is because there is still a relatively small sample size of games.  The way the rankings work are by solving an optimization function.  Meaning that every game is taken into account in the rankings (unlike human polls where people mainly just look at the prior week).  So the final rankings are based on minimizing some cost function (based on whatever criteria Massey is using) so that, in effect, every team is ranked in their most probable position in the rankings.  If there were never upsets, the rankings would be flawless, but because of these upsets you have to find the most likely ranking for each team.  Without going into more unnecessary details, like any rating system, the more games you have the more precise the rankings become and therefore providing ratings at this point in the season is rather arbitrary and even a few "unlikely" results can have a large impact on rankings.

My Final Conclusion: MIT has chance to win.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 21, 2009, 04:09:10 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 20, 2009, 09:33:22 PM


Any Dumb & Dumber fans in the house?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qULSszbA-Ek&feature=related

you just can't have that one without this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDLoT5sWOmE&feature=related
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 21, 2009, 10:24:27 PM
Games of 12/20/09

Augsburg  68,  Sagrado Corazon  (Other)  65
Linfield  78,  Simpson (Cal.)  (NAIA-D2)  71
Nova Southeastern  (NCAA-D2)  68,  Goucher  58
St. Mary's (Md.)  71,  Universidad Metropolitana  (Other)  70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 22, 2009, 12:06:39 PM
Good news, the Massey Ratings are out.  Bad news, they are only available for D1 currently.

But I can tell you this according to oldchap's requested analysis:

Harvard is ranked 46th without MOV and 53 with MOV and have a raw score of 11.79, putting them in the "Good" team category.  Therefore, here is the probability of MIT beating them, depending on how you rate MIT:

MIT is a(n) _______ team (compared to all teams in the country):
"Great" - MIT has 75% chance of winning
"Good" - MIT has 50% chance of winning
"Average" - MIT has 25% chance of winning
"Bad" - MIT has 10% chance of winning
"Pathetic" - MIT has 3% chance of winning

Some examples of current "average" teams that are listed for d1: Princeton, UC-Riverside, Columbia
Some examples of current "bad" teams that are listed for d1: Bethune Cookman, Monmouth, Navy, High Point, American
Some examples of current "pathetic" teams that are listed for d1: Alcorn State, Houston Baptist, Bryant, Mississippi Valley State

Since American already lost to a d3 team this preseason, I am going to use unsubstantiated logic and say that MIT has about a 10% chance of winning the game, plus or minus 10%.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 22, 2009, 03:52:11 PM
Games of 12/21/09

St. Martin's (NCAA-D2)  79,  Pacific Lutheran  58
Susquehanna  96, Sagrado Corazon  (other)  87
UW-Oshkosh  85,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: oldchap on December 22, 2009, 06:16:51 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 22, 2009, 12:06:39 PM
Since American already lost to a d3 team this preseason, I am going to use unsubstantiated logic and say that MIT has about a 10% chance of winning the game, plus or minus 10%.

Lloyd would have been happy with these odds!!!  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 22, 2009, 07:19:53 PM
Alcorn State 63, Mississippi College 61  (November 2nd exhibition)

http://www.d3hoops.com/school/MISS/mens/2010
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 22, 2009, 09:03:59 PM
Revise W_L  with UMPI now considered NAIA-D2

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          38
NCAA D2      10         39
NAIA D1        8          20
NAIA D2        91        86             
NCCAA          31        14
USCAA          58        17
Other            36         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 22, 2009, 10:54:25 PM
Moving UMPI from D3 to NAIA-2 is what's known in nautical terms as "jettisoning the ballast."
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 22, 2009, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 22, 2009, 10:54:25 PM
Moving UMPI from D3 to NAIA-2 is what's known in nautical terms as "jettisoning the ballast."

Don't you go bad-mouthing the Owls. >:(  With the exception of Caltech (and, perhaps, Finlandia) they are our most beloved sad-sacks! ;D

hopefan, keep two sets of books - we're gonna regret it if UMPI suddenly gets hot and goes 9-5 against NAIA D2! :o :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 23, 2009, 05:02:16 PM
That might very well happen, Chuck ... if this website ever starts covering intercollegiate Nordic skiing. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 24, 2009, 12:26:20 PM
Wait, what? UMPI NAIA-D2?

Aw, hell naw!

They be ours, mainly because they're "North of Ordinary", which I think is 17 miles down the Aroostook Highway.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 24, 2009, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 24, 2009, 12:26:20 PM
Wait, what? UMPI NAIA-D2?
I guess they turned out to be Presque-D3 as well as Presque-Isle.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 24, 2009, 02:38:46 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 24, 2009, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 24, 2009, 12:26:20 PM
Wait, what? UMPI NAIA-D2?
I guess they turned out to be Presque-D3 as well as Presque-Isle.

Tres bien!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 24, 2009, 03:40:11 PM
games of 12/22/09

Eastern Illinois  (NCAA-D1)  100,  Franklin  40
Grand Valley  (NCAA-D2)  66,  Olivet  58
St. Thomas  80,  Concordia-St. Paul  (NCAA-D2)  78


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          39
NCAA D2      11         40
NAIA D1        8          20
NAIA D2        91        86             
NCCAA          31        14
USCAA          58        17
Other            36         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 26, 2009, 03:11:05 PM
Game notes for Monday's MIT-Harvard game:

http://static.psbin.com/p/1/04p7uopd34cxni/11_MIT.pdf
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 26, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
I am disappointed. I thought a Harvard / MIT game would have game notes hand written by a feral monk in Sanskrit.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 26, 2009, 10:32:00 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 26, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
I am disappointed. I thought a Harvard / MIT game would have game notes hand written by a feral monk in Sanskrit.

It was but this is the translation I put together on my cross-country flight.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 28, 2009, 09:35:32 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 24, 2009, 02:38:46 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 24, 2009, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 24, 2009, 12:26:20 PM
Wait, what? UMPI NAIA-D2?
I guess they turned out to be Presque-D3 as well as Presque-Isle.

Tres bien!

For those that don't know........Presque Isle means 'almost an island'.  so yeah +k
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on December 28, 2009, 10:03:56 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 26, 2009, 03:11:05 PM
Game notes for Monday's MIT-Harvard game:

http://static.psbin.com/p/1/04p7uopd34cxni/11_MIT.pdf

MIT played with Harvard for a little over a half (6 point game with under 19 to go), but the depth, especially in the post, was too much for MIT.  MIT was outscored 43-7 off the bench and 54-18 in the paint.  Was a good test for the young team, but the important games start again next week.  The final score is a bit misleading because it was about a 15 minute game until about 4 minutes left when the benches cleared and MIT was outscored by 12 in those final 4 minutes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 29, 2009, 04:56:02 PM
One of those 'you've got nothing to lose' predictions....
Maybe, just Maybe,  Westminster Mo could be competitive with D1 Tennessee Martin tomorrow the 30th.
Westmin has a 6 game win streak coming off a trip to No Illinois where they won at Elmhurst and Concordia Ill... In Westmin's early losses, theie starting forward Ky Millard was either still playing or just finished up his soccer season....  2 very good frosh for Westmin are getting more experience and showing good stats.... Tenn Martin has only beaten Harris Stowe of St Louis, a below average D2 team.....

Yes there is likely still a big difference,... but if Westmin were to play its best game....  you heard it from the ol hopefan......
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 29, 2009, 08:49:01 PM
Point leads UST 36-31 at the half.  See the WIAC in game updates for... in game updates.

Sorry, wrong board, misclicked
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2009, 09:03:31 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 29, 2009, 08:49:01 PM
Point leads UST 36-31 at the half.  See the WIAC in game updates for... in game updates.

Or just click on this link and get the live stats:   http://www.sidearmstats.com/uwsp/mbball/index.htm
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 29, 2009, 09:16:12 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 29, 2009, 09:03:31 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 29, 2009, 08:49:01 PM
Point leads UST 36-31 at the half.  See the WIAC in game updates for... in game updates.

Or just click on this link and get the live stats:   http://www.sidearmstats.com/uwsp/mbball/index.htm

Meh, my commentary is more entertaining for me.   ;D

Sorry, wrong board, misclicked
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 29, 2009, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 29, 2009, 08:49:01 PM
Point leads UST 36-31 at the half.  See the WIAC in game updates for... in game updates.
Which one of these is the non-D3 team? ???
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 29, 2009, 09:46:52 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 29, 2009, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 29, 2009, 08:49:01 PM
Point leads UST 36-31 at the half.  See the WIAC in game updates for... in game updates.
Which one of these is the non-D3 team? ???

Sorry, misclicked.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2009, 08:56:07 PM
Results of Dec 27, 28, 29

Baldwin-Wallace  96,  Indiana East  (NAIA-D2)  87
Brown  (NCAA-D1)  74,  Kean  63
Coastal Carolina  (NCAA-D1)  79,  Cornell  48
Defiance  114,  OSU Lima  (Other)  51
Embry-Riddle  (NAIA-D2)  68,  Hood  59
Embry-Riddle  (NAIA-D2)  73,  Wartburg  58
Florida Tech  (NCAA-D2)  82,  Geneva  66
Goshen  (NAIA-D2)  95,  Illinois College  79
Harvard  (NCAA-D1)  88,  MIT  61
Hawaii Pacific  (NCAA-D2)  80,  Gustavus Adolphus  73
Hope  72,  Madonna  (NAIA-D2)  68
Indiana East  (NAIA-D2)  80,  Mount Union  62
Lake Superior State  (NCAA-D2)  72,  Albion  57
Minnesota Duluth  (NCAA-D2)  70,  Northland  39
North Dakota  (NCAA-D1)  69,  St. Olaf  58
Pacific Lutheran  79,  Simon Fraser  (Other)  72
Portland State  (NCAA-D1)  97,  Willamette  90
Puget Sound  71,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  68
Texas State  (NCAA-D1)  95,  Texas Lutheran  70
UC Clermont  (USCAA)  82,  Bluffton  63
UW-Stout  82,  Lewis-Clark State  (NAIA-D1)  80
Winona State  (NCAA-D2)  83,  St. Mary's (Minn.)  70

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          45
NCAA D2      11         45
NAIA D1        9          20
NAIA D2        93        90             
NCCAA          32        14
USCAA          58        18
Other            38         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 30, 2009, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 29, 2009, 09:46:52 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 29, 2009, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 29, 2009, 08:49:01 PM
Point leads UST 36-31 at the half.  See the WIAC in game updates for... in game updates.
Which one of these is the non-D3 team? ???

Sorry, misclicked.

... Or I was just off by one night.

UWSP beats NAIA-II Viterbo 75-57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: oldchap on December 31, 2009, 02:31:22 PM
Result from December 30th:

Hawaii Pacific (NCAA-D2) 70 - Chapman 58

Here you will find my comments about the game:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5506.60

Happy New Year to all of you!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 31, 2009, 11:26:09 PM
I saw the ESPN ticker...
Cornell  (NY) 73,  PSU Behrend 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2010, 04:54:10 AM
hopefan,
Geneseo State lost to Division II St. Martin's 77-65 on Thursday the 31st
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2010, 05:19:24 AM
Here's another one. Redlands 56 Masters 75(NAIAD1)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2010, 05:25:37 AM
Pomona-Pitzer 54   San Diego St. 89 (DI)

Manchester 55    Ball State 69 (DI)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2010, 12:05:16 PM
Games of 12/30, 12/31


Adrian  103,  OSU Lima  (Other)  58
Ball State  (NCAA-D1)  69,  Manchester  55
Benedictine  81,  Southwestern (Az.)  (NAIA-D2)  65
Bowdoin  64,  Johnson and Wales (Fla.)  (USCAA)  61
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  64,  Point Loma Nazarene  (NAIA-D1)  62
Clarion  (NCAA-D2)  81,  Waynesburg  53
Concordia (California)  (NAIA-D1)  91,  Bates  58
Concordia (Neb.)  (NAIA-D2)  73,  Westminster (Pa.)  66
Cornell (N.Y.)  (NCAA-D1)  73,  Penn State-Behrend  49
Flagler  (NCAA-D2)  86,  Geneva  74
Hawaii Pacific  (NCAA-D2)  70,  Chapman  58
Hawaii-Hilo  (NCAA-D2)  69,  Gustavus Adolphus  50
Hope  77,  Davenport  (NAIA-D2)  62
Maryville (Tenn.)  83,  Tennessee Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  67
Master's  (NAIA-D1)  75,  Redlands  56
NJIT  (NCAA-D1)  67,  Polytechnic  31
Olivet  89,  Ohio Dominican  (NAIA-D2)  77
San Diego State  (NCAA-D1)  89,  Pomona-Pitzer  54
St. Martin's  (NCAA-D2)  77,  Geneseo State  65
Tennessee-Martin  (NCAA-D1)  71,  Westminster (Mo.)  59
UC Davis  (NCAA-D1)  69,  Whittier  53
UW-Stevens Point  75,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  57
Wartburg  94,  Florida Tech  (NCAA-D2)  90
Westminster (Utah)  (NAIA-D1)  71,  UW-Platteville  68
Westmont  (NAIA-D1)  80,  Central  75
William Jessup  (NAIA-D2)  80,  UC Santa Cruz  68
Wittenberg  75,  Marian (Ind.)  (NAIA-D2)  66

D3 record vs:
                   W         L            
NCAA D1       0          51
NCAA D2      12         50
NAIA D1        10        24
NAIA D2        99        92            
NCCAA          32        14
USCAA          59        18
Other            39         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2010, 12:22:06 PM
not many more opportunities for a win vs D1...

1/2/2010   McMurry      UT-San Antonio   
1/2/2010   Stevenson      The Citadel   
1/2/2010   Texas-Dallas      UT-Arlington   
1/11/2010   Clarkson      Cornell (N.Y.)   
1/11/2010   Randolph      VMI   
1/24/2010   Goucher      Princeton   

Has anybody kept a D3 history vs D1 that could list wins??   (NO exhibitions included)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 01, 2010, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 01, 2010, 12:22:06 PM
not many more opportunities for a win vs D1...

1/2/2010   McMurry      UT-San Antonio   
1/2/2010   Stevenson      The Citadel   
1/2/2010   Texas-Dallas      UT-Arlington   
1/11/2010   Clarkson      Cornell (N.Y.)   
1/11/2010   Randolph      VMI   
1/24/2010   Goucher      Princeton   

Has anybody kept a D3 history vs D1 that could list wins??   (NO exhibitions included)
No, but I think that we could start one here as part of the archives of the D3hoops.com
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2010, 01:27:03 PM
hopefully individuals can remember and document.....  there have obviously been a few .

Funny thing is, I was involved with two many years ago when I was the assistant coach under Bill Kalbaugh at RPI.  We beat Colgate 54-53 in the 74-75 season (the first year of organized D3), and Cornell 84-82 in the 75-76 season.  In particular the win over Cornell was one of the highlights of my 5 year foray into coaching....  I'm so senile I can't for the life of me remember the Colgate game....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 01, 2010, 01:38:16 PM
Let's have a starting point.

What do you recommend?

I can document this one from the ASC.

UT-Dallas 78, UT-Arlington 76. (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2006/12/30/unbeaten-ut-dallas-tops-d-i-school.html)  12/30/2006

McMurry beat UT-Arlington in Nov 1998, 80-76.

The article also has Carnegie Mellon winning at Princeton 51-46 on December 28, 2005.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 03:42:25 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 01, 2010, 01:38:16 PM
Let's have a starting point.

What do you recommend?

I can document this one from the ASC.

UT-Dallas 78, UT-Arlington 76. (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2006/12/30/unbeaten-ut-dallas-tops-d-i-school.html)  12/30/2006

McMurry beat UT-Arlington in Nov 1998, 80-76.

The article also has Carnegie Mellon winning at Princeton 51-46 on December 28, 2005.

As I have stated earlier on this board, the year CMU beat Princeton, Princeton finished 2nd in the Ivy League.

I also think there was a win or two over SIU-Edwardsville in the last couple of years since they became D1, but I cant remember the team or the date.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2005, 09:45:12 AM
Old School: The 2-60 record for this year is similar to the numbers for the previous three years.  

2002...1-53
2003...3-54
2004...2-61

I don't see D3 doing much better against D1 in the near term. D1 teams that are vulnerable against a good (or even average) D3 team tend to downgrade opponents or even drop D3 schools entirely.

Found this on the first page of this board, meaning there are 8 D1 wins over the 2002-2005 seasons that can be found.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 01, 2010, 04:04:15 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2005, 09:45:12 AM
Old School: The 2-60 record for this year is similar to the numbers for the previous three years.  

2002...1-53
2003...3-54
2004...2-61

I don't see D3 doing much better against D1 in the near term. D1 teams that are vulnerable against a good (or even average) D3 team tend to downgrade opponents or even drop D3 schools entirely.

Found this on the first page of this board, meaning there are 8 D1 wins over the 2002-2005 seasons that can be found.
Don't you love the archive aspects of this board?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 01, 2010, 04:04:15 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2005, 09:45:12 AM
Old School: The 2-60 record for this year is similar to the numbers for the previous three years.  

2002...1-53
2003...3-54
2004...2-61

I don't see D3 doing much better against D1 in the near term. D1 teams that are vulnerable against a good (or even average) D3 team tend to downgrade opponents or even drop D3 schools entirely.

Found this on the first page of this board, meaning there are 8 D1 wins over the 2002-2005 seasons that can be found.
Don't you love the archive aspects of this board?

Im actually on a crosscountry flight again so I am trying to find all the D3 v. D1 wins from 06-present, by going through all 94 pages of the board.  Hope to update soon.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 04:11:02 PM
December 22, 2005:
Puget Sound - 115, UC-Riverside (D-1) - 111

December 28, 2005
Carnegie Mellon 51, Princeton (D1) 46

December 30, 2006
Texas-Dallas 78, Texas-Arlington (D1) 76

November 23, 2007
Shenandoah 78, Houston Baptist (D1) 75

December 4, 2008
Millikin 70, SIU-Edwardsville (D1) 59

These are the 5 wins for D3 over D1 for the seasons 2006-present.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 04:23:29 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 10:08:16 PM
QuoteMr. Ypsi
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I don't know if anyone has compiled the stats from earlier years (and the stats reported were only from NAIA-2, not NAIA-1), but from the first pages of the d3 vs. everybody thread I found:

2001-02: d3 118, NAIA-2 58
2002-03: d3 92, NAIA-2 60
2003-04: d3 93, NAIA-2 62
2004-05: d3 67, NAIA-2 70 (d3 16, NAIA-1 22)
2005-06: d3 119, NAIA-2 118 (d3 22, NAIA 31)

Two things strike me:

(1) the d3 dominance over NAIA-2 slipped a bit from 2001 thru  (winter)2004, but crashed and burned after that.

(2) why a sudden increase of 100(!) games between 2004-05 and 2005-06?  [My speculation - the record-keeping may have improved dramatically.]

If anyone can fill in the d3 vs NAIA-1 records, or records for either pre-dating 2001, it would be greatly appreciated!  (Though the d3 vs. everybody board would be the more appropriate place to do it.) 
Transferred so it won't be lost... ;)

Thought some might find this interesting.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2010, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 01, 2010, 12:05:16 PM
Games of 12/30, 12/31


San Diego State  (NAIA-D1)  89,  Pomona-Pitzer  54


D3 record vs:
                   W         L            
NCAA D1       0          51
NCAA D2      12         50
NAIA D1        10        24
NAIA D2        99        92            
NCCAA          32        14
USCAA          59        18
Other            39         2


hopefan,
Just a slight correction. You're showing the above game San Diego St. as NAIA-D1 but they are NCAA Division I. Your totals may not have to be changed, as you may have figured them as DI when you did the totals and just typed in the wrong classification when you did the scores.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 01, 2010, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 04:11:02 PM
December 22, 2005:
Puget Sound - 115, UC-Riverside (D-1) - 111

December 28, 2005
Carnegie Mellon 51, Princeton (D1) 46

December 30, 2006
Texas-Dallas 78, Texas-Arlington (D1) 76

November 23, 2007
Shenandoah 78, Houston Baptist (D1) 75

December 4, 2008
Millikin 70, SIU-Edwardsville (D1) 59

These are the 5 wins for D3 over D1 for the seasons 2006-present.

If I am not mistaken, Houston Baptist and SIU-E were in reclassifying 'no mans land' those seasons. For the life of me, I can't get why schools like that move to D-1, especially since Houston Baptist left D-1 years ago.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 01, 2010, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 01, 2010, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 04:11:02 PM
December 22, 2005:
Puget Sound - 115, UC-Riverside (D-1) - 111

December 28, 2005
Carnegie Mellon 51, Princeton (D1) 46

December 30, 2006
Texas-Dallas 78, Texas-Arlington (D1) 76

November 23, 2007
Shenandoah 78, Houston Baptist (D1) 75

December 4, 2008
Millikin 70, SIU-Edwardsville (D1) 59

These are the 5 wins for D3 over D1 for the seasons 2006-present.

If I am not mistaken, Houston Baptist and SIU-E were in reclassifying 'no mans land' those seasons. For the life of me, I can't get why schools like that move to D-1, especially since Houston Baptist left D-1 years ago.
Houston Baptist was in "no-man's land" in the NAIA-1 Red River AC (http://www.redriverconference.com/members.php).

That conference is extremely diverse in geography, in school mission and vision, and in historical background.

Since HBU left the RRAC, two other schools have left the RRAC for D-II, UT-Permian Basin and Texas A&M International
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2010, 07:25:09 PM
Thanks Magic, spelling error had wrong Division pulled down, but all else was ok....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on January 01, 2010, 09:01:21 PM
The complete list (I believe) of D3 wins over D1 since the 1998-1999 season:

November 24, 1998
McMurray 80 - UT Arlington 76

November 19, 2000
Catholic 59- Albany 56

November 25, 2000
Augustana 76 - Western Illinois 71

December 18, 2000
Wartburg 72 - Central Florida 61

December 29, 2001
Macalester 90 - Yale 82

November 25, 2002
Fisk 69 - Tennessee State 65

December 4, 2002
Johns Hopkins 66 - Navy 61

December 20, 2002
Mary Washington 60 - VMI 56

December 4, 2003
Williams 78 - Holy Cross 71

December 4, 2003
Fisk 65- Tennessee State 63

November 30, 2004
Hampden Sydney 73 - Longwood 67

December 19, 2004
Gettysberg 75 - Navy 69

December 22, 2005:
Puget Sound 115 -  UC Riverside 111

December 28, 2005
Carnegie Mellon 51 - Princeton 46

December 30, 2006
Texas Dallas 78 - UT Arlington 76

November 23, 2007
Shenandoah 78 - Houston Baptist 75

December 4, 2008
Millikin 70 - SIU Edwardsville 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 02, 2010, 12:51:19 AM
Wow. Those weren't exactly the cream of the D-1 crop. I remember those Tennessee State teams were just abysmal.

The big shocker was the win by Williams against Holy Cross. Yes, they were down but the year before they were 26-5.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 02, 2010, 02:09:35 AM
Can't give any further details, but in December 1982 IWU won at Arizona, 67-64.  Since IWU was then both d3 and NAIA, but played post-season in NAIA, you may count it or discount it - your call.

Also, in both 1968-68 and 69-70, we beat Illinois State.  Since they were then transitioning to d1, they refused to play us any more since the games "would not be competitive" (i.e., they were scared to death we might beat 'em again!).  (I'm pretty sure they were fully d1 by that last game; not sure about the previous one.)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2010, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 02, 2010, 02:09:35 AM
Can't give any further details, but in December 1982 IWU won at Arizona, 67-64.  Since IWU was then both d3 and NAIA, but played post-season in NAIA, you may count it or discount it - your call.

Also, in both 1968-68 and 69-70, we beat Illinois State.  Since they were then transitioning to d1, they refused to play us any more since the games "would not be competitive" (i.e., they were scared to death we might beat 'em again!).  (I'm pretty sure they were fully d1 by that last game; not sure about the previous one.)

North Park beat (I think) five D1 teams during the threepeat era of 1978-80. In 1979 the Vikings beat Jacksonville down in Florida, 79-69. Jacksonville won the Sun Belt Conference that year and went to the big dance. I'm pretty sure that that's the only time that a D3 team has defeated a D1 team that subsequently made it to the D1 tournament that year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on January 02, 2010, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2010, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 02, 2010, 02:09:35 AM
Can't give any further details, but in December 1982 IWU won at Arizona, 67-64.  Since IWU was then both d3 and NAIA, but played post-season in NAIA, you may count it or discount it - your call.

Also, in both 1968-68 and 69-70, we beat Illinois State.  Since they were then transitioning to d1, they refused to play us any more since the games "would not be competitive" (i.e., they were scared to death we might beat 'em again!).  (I'm pretty sure they were fully d1 by that last game; not sure about the previous one.)

North Park beat (I think) five D1 teams during the threepeat era of 1978-80. In 1979 the Vikings beat Jacksonville down in Florida, 79-69. Jacksonville won the Sun Belt Conference that year and went to the big dance. I'm pretty sure that that's the only time that a D3 team has defeated a D1 team that subsequently made it to the D1 tournament that year.

Didn't Holy Cross go in 2003 when Williams beat them, or was it the next year (or previous year) that they went?  I remember they were really close to upsetting Kansas in a 15/2 or 16/1 game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on January 02, 2010, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on January 02, 2010, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 02, 2010, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 02, 2010, 02:09:35 AM
Can't give any further details, but in December 1982 IWU won at Arizona, 67-64.  Since IWU was then both d3 and NAIA, but played post-season in NAIA, you may count it or discount it - your call.

Also, in both 1968-68 and 69-70, we beat Illinois State.  Since they were then transitioning to d1, they refused to play us any more since the games "would not be competitive" (i.e., they were scared to death we might beat 'em again!).  (I'm pretty sure they were fully d1 by that last game; not sure about the previous one.)

North Park beat (I think) five D1 teams during the threepeat era of 1978-80. In 1979 the Vikings beat Jacksonville down in Florida, 79-69. Jacksonville won the Sun Belt Conference that year and went to the big dance. I'm pretty sure that that's the only time that a D3 team has defeated a D1 team that subsequently made it to the D1 tournament that year.

Didn't Holy Cross go in 2003 when Williams beat them, or was it the next year (or previous year) that they went?  I remember they were really close to upsetting Kansas in a 15/2 or 16/1 game.

They didnt make it that year, they were a 14 seed they year before and played Marquette in the first round, losing by 4.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on January 03, 2010, 12:47:00 AM
Holy Cross did play Kansas tough as the 1 vs. 16 the year prior to that in 2002
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on January 03, 2010, 02:49:03 AM
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on January 03, 2010, 12:47:00 AM
Holy Cross did play Kansas tough as the 1 vs. 16 the year prior to that in 2002

Yep, I was getting my years mixed up... They lost by 4 to Kentucky as a 15 in 2001 in round 1, to Kansas as a 16 in 2002 by 11, and Marquette as a 14 in 2003 by 4 (ironically, by the same score as 2001).  I played against a guy (Tim Szatko) in High School who played at Holy Cross, so I kind of kept tabs on them.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: oldchap on January 03, 2010, 02:51:58 AM
I couldn't wait... ;D

In overtime, Chapman beat 18th ranked Division II BYU Hawaii on the road by a score of 76 to 70. Congratulations to the Panthers!

I will be posting my commentaries of the game in the "West Region Independent" forum tomorrow.

Here is the link: http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5506.60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on January 03, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
D3 Maryville (TN) beat Tennessee Wesleyan and Bryan, both NAIA 2, over the wekend.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 03, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
Games of Jan 1, Jan2

Chapman  76,  BYU-Pacific  (NCAA-D2)  70
Geneseo State  (63)  Western Washington,  NCAA-D2  75
Keene State  106,  Penn Tech  (USCAA)  82
Mary Hardin-Baylor  (77)  Our Lady of the Lake,  NAIA-D1  95
Maryville (Tenn.)  85,  Bryan  (NAIA-D2)  82
Merchant Marine  108,  Vaughn  (Other)  29
Northland  81,  Southwestern (Az.)  (NAIA-D2)  77
Plymouth State  (46)  Northwood (Fla.),  NAIA-D2  70
Plymouth State  (59)  Olivet Nazarene,  NAIA-D1  84
Redlands  (54)  Biola,  NAIA-D1  65
St. Vincent  71,  Penn State Fayette  (USCAA)  67
Sul Ross State  95,  Southwest (N.M.)  (NAIA-D1)  90
Texas-Dallas  (64)  UT-Arlington,  NCAA-D1  72

Missing UC Santa Cruz - Cal Maritime

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          52
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1        11        27
NAIA D2       101       93             
NCCAA          32        14
USCAA          61        18
Other            40         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 03, 2010, 07:33:15 PM
This is too good to last, but McMurry leads UTSA 24-23 with 4:14 left in the first half.

In UTSA's last game, the Roadrunners beat Houston Cougars 83-82 on New Year's Eve.

McM 26  UTSA 25  3:21
McM 26  UTSA 29  1:51
McM 27  UTSA 35  Half

UTSA opened the second half with a 15-3 run (great defense) to pull out to a 50-30 lead in the first 5 minutes.  McMurry began playing its subs shortly thereafter.

Final UTSA 84, McMurry 58.  UTSA improves to 10-3, for their best start since the 2000-01 season.  McMurry falls to 7-3.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 04, 2010, 01:02:04 PM
Cal Maritime (NAIA-2) 75, UC-Santa Cruz 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 04, 2010, 06:47:59 PM
We can get a Concordia tournament. How about a Maritime tournament? Ahoy!

Maine, NY, California, Massachusetts!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2010, 09:25:53 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 04, 2010, 01:02:04 PM
Cal Maritime (NAIA-2) 75, UC-Santa Cruz 60

Don't either one of thses schools have an SID that actually spends time working at their job? Cal Maritime actually had the Conference Player of the Week this week but you can't find that out by visiting the school's website. And the Banana Slugs haven't posted a game score since Dec. 14th, 5 games ago.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 04, 2010, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 04, 2010, 06:47:59 PM
We can get a Concordia tournament. How about a Maritime tournament? Ahoy!

Maine, NY, California, Massachusetts!


I'd root for Cal Maritime in that tournament. How could you resist a team nicknamed the Keelhaulers?

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2010, 09:25:53 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 04, 2010, 01:02:04 PM
Cal Maritime (NAIA-2) 75, UC-Santa Cruz 60

Don't either one of thses schools have an SID that actually spends time working at their job? Cal Maritime actually had the Conference Player of the Week this week but you can't find that out by visiting the school's website. And the Banana Slugs haven't posted a game score since Dec. 14th, 5 games ago.

Somebody must have reported the game, since it's posted on the website of the Cal Pac Conference (Cal Maritime's league) and on the scoreboard of the NAIA website.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2010, 04:07:07 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 04, 2010, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 04, 2010, 06:47:59 PM
We can get a Concordia tournament. How about a Maritime tournament? Ahoy!

Maine, NY, California, Massachusetts!


I'd root for Cal Maritime in that tournament. How could you resist a team nicknamed the Keelhaulers?

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2010, 09:25:53 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 04, 2010, 01:02:04 PM
Cal Maritime (NAIA-2) 75, UC-Santa Cruz 60

Don't either one of thses schools have an SID that actually spends time working at their job? Cal Maritime actually had the Conference Player of the Week this week but you can't find that out by visiting the school's website. And the Banana Slugs haven't posted a game score since Dec. 14th, 5 games ago.

Somebody must have reported the game, since it's posted on the website of the Cal Pac Conference (Cal Maritime's league) and on the scoreboard of the NAIA website.

I know but even that took over 2 days to show up. When hopefan posted on the SCIAC board asking for help in locating that score I went to the Cal Pac website and the NAIA website 4 or 5 different times on Sunday and they had nothing. I was going to check it on Monday when I saw that you already had. And I agree with smedindy about the Keelhaulers nickname. I think the Keelhaulers against the Banana Slugs has to be the nickname game of the year. :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 05, 2010, 06:56:36 AM
Jan 3 activity

Endicott  72,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  64
Roger Williams  75,  Vaughn  (Other)  54
Scranton  86,  Penn Tech  (USCAA)  65
Southwestern (Az.)  (NAIA-D2)  76,  La Sierra  59
UT-San Antonio  (NCAA-D1)  84,  McMurry  58


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          53
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1        11        27
NAIA D2       101       95             
NCCAA          32        14
USCAA          62        18
Other            42         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 06, 2010, 01:19:57 PM
January 4,5 activity

Capital  80,  Ohio Dominican  (NAIA-D2)  53
Dubuque  69,  Clarke  (NAIA-D2)  62
King  (NAIA-D2)  113,  Emory and Henry  108
La Verne  89,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  74
Lagrange  73,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  59
Louisiana College  77,  St. Thomas (Tx.)  (NAIA-D2)  66
Maryville (Tenn.)  109,  Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  53
Mississippi College  89,  Belhaven  (NAIA-D1)  79
Rowan  79,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  46
Valley City State  (NAIA-D2)  78,  Minnesota-Morris  71
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  74,  Neumann  68



D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          53
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       12         27
NAIA D2       105       97           
NCCAA          34        15
USCAA          63        18
Other            42         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 08, 2010, 09:31:14 AM
Games of Jan 6,7


Birmingham-Southern  94,  Asbury  (NAIA-D2)  91
Castleton State  75,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  74
Huntingdon  73,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  54
Neumann  85,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  54
Rowan  82,  Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  80
Tennessee Temple  (NCCAA-D1)  90,  Philadelphia Bible  58
Vermont Technical  (NAIA-D2)  97,  Green Mountain  60
Wisconsin Lutheran  99,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  71
Yale  (NCAA-D1)  92,  Albertus Magnus  71


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          54
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       12         27
NAIA D2       107       98           
NCCAA          36        16
USCAA          65        18
Other            42         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 09, 2010, 10:19:35 AM
Games of Jan 8, 2010

Atlanta Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  92,  Philadelphia Bible  69
Kentucky Christian  (NAIA-D2)  61,  Lancaster Bible  60
Maine Maritime  78,  Maine-Presque Isle  (NAIA-D2)  68
RPI  70,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  67
SUNY-Canton  (NAIA-D2)  73,  Johnson State  72
UC Santa Cruz  64,  Bethany (Cal.)  (NAIA-D2)  55

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          54
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       12         27
NAIA D2       110      100           
NCCAA          36        17
USCAA          65        18
Other            42         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 10, 2010, 11:57:53 AM
Games of 1/9/10

Geneva  76,  Penn State Beaver  (USCAA)  59
Lakeland  95,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  56
Nebraska Wesleyan  81,  Northwestern (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  71
University of Dallas  69,  St. Thomas (Tx.)  (NAIA-D2)  64

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          54
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       12         27
NAIA D2       112      100           
NCCAA          36        17
USCAA          67        18
Other            42         2

There are only 3 more D1  games on my schedule   it doesn't look good for a D3 win

1/11/2010   Clarkson     vs Cornell
1/11/2010   Randolph     vs VMI      
1/24/2010   Goucher      vs Princeton   

There are 34 more games vs NAIA D2 teams meaning 12 wins in those 34 games by D3 over NAIA D2 will get us the season championship.   Given Maryville Tenn and Nebraska Wesleyan are involved in 18 of those games, that looks pretty good, but I certainly wouldn't yet call it a lock.      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 10, 2010, 12:26:30 PM
Guys - I'll be out of town on a big birthday trip and may not have internet access (unless I pay $15/day) - so you may not hear from me until Friday.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 10, 2010, 01:27:08 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 10, 2010, 12:26:30 PM
Guys - I'll be out of town on a big birthday trip and may not have internet access (unless I pay $15/day) - so you may not hear from me until Friday.

Yeah, you stay at those big fancy expensive hotels and resorts, and they charge you an arm and a leg for internet.

You just gotta put "free internet" higher on the list of preferences for lodging!   ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 17, 2010, 03:00:44 PM
Games 1/10/10 - 1/16/10

Berry  (NAIA-D1)  74,  Huntingdon  70
Birmingham-Southern  95,  Atlanta Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  86
Central Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  60,  North Central (Minn.)  54
Chapman  77,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  59
Colorado College  84,  Johnson & Wales (Colo.)  (NAIA-D2)  75
Concordia (Neb.)  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Nebraska Wesleyan  68
Cornell (N.Y.)  (NCAA-D1)  82,  Clarkson  37
Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Lagrange  66
Eureka  86,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  84
Finlandia  87,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  71
Greensboro  88,  Concord  (NCAA-D2)  79
Husson  94,  Maine-Machias  (NAIA-D2)  78
King's  75,  Penn State Hazleton  (USCAA)  50
North Central (Minn.)  96,  Trinity Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  83
Northland International  (NCCAA-D2)  78,  Lakeland  76
Penn State-Harrisburg  (NEAC)  85,  Penn State York  54
Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  62,  Blackburn  58
Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  80,  Brockport State  73
Rochester  70,  Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  64
Rochester Tech  99,  Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  76
Sioux Falls  (NAIA-D2)  80,  Nebraska Wesleyan  69
Southern Virginia  (NAIA-D2)  93,  Shenandoah  79
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  78,  Vaughn  (Other)  57
UC Santa Cruz  68,  Pacific Union  (NAIA-D2)  52
UC Santa Cruz  75,  Menlo  (NAIA-D2)  56
University of Dallas  84,  Philander Smith  (NAIA-D1)  69
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  73,  North Central (Minn.)  66
VMI  (NCAA-D1)  99,  Randolph  88

Missing Rust vs Philander Smith

D3 record vs:
                   W         L            
NCAA D1       0          56
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       13         28
NAIA D2       118      105            
NCCAA          40        20
USCAA          71        20
Other            43         2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 20, 2010, 12:14:25 PM
games of 1/17/10 - 1/19/10

Drew  80,  Vaughn  (Other)  58
Finlandia  91,  Northland Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  81
Nebraska Wesleyan  63,  Midland Lutheran  (NAIA-D2)  62
Rust  105,  Philander Smith  (NAIA-D1)  99
Rutgers-Camden  76,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  52
Southern Maine C.C.  (Other)  111,  St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  102
UC Santa Cruz  60,  Holy Names  (NAIA-D2)  57

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          56
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       14         28
NAIA D2       120      105           
NCCAA          42        20
USCAA          72        20
Other           45          3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 21, 2010, 09:40:11 PM
1/20/10

Hastings  (NAIA-D2)  72,  Nebraska Wesleyan  55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 24, 2010, 07:34:10 PM
Activity   1/21 - 1/23

Dakota Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  83,  Nebraska Wesleyan  70
Lancaster Bible  83,  Penn State Mont Alto  (USCAA)  70
Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  101,  Fontbonne  84
North Central (Minn.)  78,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  65
Spalding  68,  Asbury  (NAIA-D2)  58
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  70,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  69
York (N.Y.)  90,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  58


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          56
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       14         28
NAIA D2       121      107           
NCCAA          43        21
USCAA          73        20
Other           47          3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 12:59:43 AM
hopefan,
Maryville (Tenn.) lost to Milligan NAIA D2 on Monday night 76-74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2010, 01:01:56 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2010, 12:59:43 AM
hopefan,
Maryville (Tenn.) lost to Milligan NAIA D2 on Monday night 76-74
On Massey's talley, that is something like #1150 defeating #600.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 01:13:31 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2010, 01:01:56 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2010, 12:59:43 AM
hopefan,
Maryville (Tenn.) lost to Milligan NAIA D2 on Monday night 76-74
On Massey's talley, that is something like #1150 defeating #600.


Ralph
#1142 to #600 to be exact. The 542 places separating the two would make it Massey's 2nd least likely result in all of college basketball, as it stands right now.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2010, 01:46:53 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2010, 01:13:31 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2010, 01:01:56 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2010, 12:59:43 AM
hopefan,
Maryville (Tenn.) lost to Milligan NAIA D2 on Monday night 76-74
On Massey's talley, that is something like #1150 defeating #600.


Ralph
#1142 to #600 to be exact. The 542 places separating the two would make it Massey's 2nd least likely result in all of college basketball, as it stands right now.
Well I can claim some credit for the outcome.  I put Maryville in my Posters' Poll Top 25!   ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 02:01:59 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2010, 01:46:53 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2010, 01:13:31 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2010, 01:01:56 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2010, 12:59:43 AM
hopefan,
Maryville (Tenn.) lost to Milligan NAIA D2 on Monday night 76-74
On Massey's talley, that is something like #1150 defeating #600.


Ralph
#1142 to #600 to be exact. The 542 places separating the two would make it Massey's 2nd least likely result in all of college basketball, as it stands right now.
Well I can claim some credit for the outcome.  I put Maryville in my Posters' Poll Top 25!   ;)
I almost did as well but went with Claremont-Mudd-Scripps instead. I'll probably jinx them.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 26, 2010, 12:39:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2010, 02:01:59 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2010, 01:46:53 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2010, 01:13:31 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 26, 2010, 01:01:56 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2010, 12:59:43 AM
hopefan,
Maryville (Tenn.) lost to Milligan NAIA D2 on Monday night 76-74
On Massey's talley, that is something like #1150 defeating #600.


Ralph
#1142 to #600 to be exact. The 542 places separating the two would make it Massey's 2nd least likely result in all of college basketball, as it stands right now.
Well I can claim some credit for the outcome.  I put Maryville in my Posters' Poll Top 25!   ;)
I almost did as well but went with Claremont-Mudd-Scripps instead. I'll probably jinx them.

I did the same thing to Defiance last week. I put the Jackets #25 on my ballot, and they promptly went out and lost to previously winless Bluffton.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on January 26, 2010, 03:21:37 PM
Maryville plays Milligan again, @Maryville, and I suspect a different outcome.  I also think Maryville was reminded of some important basic principles and will not be losing more games for a while.  Playing NAIA teams away on a Monday night this late in the season is not the kind of challenge it is easy to get motivated for, but in the long run this may have been one of those blessings in (partial) disguise.

Don't give up on the Scots.  This team seems to have the potential to be pretty good but there are a lot of young players who are keys and they are still learning about consistency.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 26, 2010, 09:34:34 PM
Or Milligan could now have confidence that they can beat anyone. Works both ways.

But yeah, Monday night games like that can bring out the sleepwalk in players.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 26, 2010, 09:39:25 PM
Games of Jan 24, 25

Alvernia  85,  Penn State Schuylkill  (USCAA)  60
Lagrange  63,  Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  48
Milligan  (NAIA-D2)  76,  Maryville (Tenn.)  74
Princeton  (NCAA-D1)  88,  Goucher  35
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  65,  Culinary Institute  (Other)  42

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          57
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       14         28
NAIA D2       122      108           
NCCAA          43        21
USCAA          74        20
Other           48          3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 26, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
From the "SID's can find the positive in anything department", here's the sub-head for the game story on Goucher's website:

"Early 2-0, 4-3 Leads Dissolve Thanks to Princeton's 26-2 Run"

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: oldchap on January 29, 2010, 01:13:15 AM
January 28 in Phoenix at 7 PM:

Chapman 79 - Southwestern College (NAIA and NCCAA) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 30, 2010, 10:10:29 AM
Games Jan 26-29



Arcadia  77,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  51
Brooklyn  96,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  64
Chapman  79,  Southwestern (Az.)  (NAIA-D2)  66
Dana  (NAIA-D2)  87,  Nebraska Wesleyan  64
Eastern Mennonite  89,  Southern Virginia  (NAIA-D2)  68
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  83,  Daniel Webster  76
Huntingdon  104,  Trinity (Fla.)  (NCCAA-D2)  57
Huntingdon  87,  Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  73
Lancaster Bible  90,  Washington Bible  (Other)  70
Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  78,  Principia  57
Lycoming  113,  Penn Tech  (USCAA)  89
Maranatha Baptist  79,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  74
Minnesota-Morris  84,  Trinity Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  75
Penn State York  (USCAA)  68,  Messiah  65
Piedmont  100,  Johnson Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  55
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  82,  Lancaster Bible  72

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          57
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       14         28
NAIA D2       125      110           
NCCAA          47        23
USCAA          76        21
Other           51          3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 30, 2010, 10:16:48 PM
Dwight Wilbur, a starter on the 1985 Villanova team that "shocked the world" when they won the NCAA D-1 tourney, is the head coach at Berkeley (NJ).

He's the gent on the left and he's gained a few pounds since college.

http://www.berkeleycollege.edu/athletics/mens/basketball-gmt.htm
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 01, 2010, 09:09:56 PM
Games  1/30, 1/31

Concordia (Mi.)  (NAIA-D2)  80,  Concordia (Ill.)  63
Concordia (Wis.)  91,  Concordia (Neb.)  (NAIA-D2)  73
Hampden-Sydney  81,  Washington Adventist  (USCAA)  72
Nebraska Wesleyan  83,  Briar Cliff (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  74

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          57
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       14         28
NAIA D2       127      111           
NCCAA          47        23
USCAA          77        21
Other           51          3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 06, 2010, 12:49:22 PM
games   2/1 - 2/5

Alfred  68,  Penn State Wilkes-Barre  (USCAA)  54
Aurora  81,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  54
Chapman  78,  Southwestern (Az.)  (NAIA-D2)  44
Faulkner  (NAIA-D1)  84,  Huntingdon  66
La Sierra  82,  Southwestern (Az.)  (NAIA-D2)  70
MacMurray  103,  Concordia St. Louis  (Other)  89
Maranatha Baptist  79,  Kuyper  (NCCAA-D2)  67
Nebraska Wesleyan  70,  Doane  (NAIA-D2)  55
New Jersey  110,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  64
North Central (Minn.)  99,  Providence College  (NCCAA-D2)  55
Piedmont  106,  Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  66
Principia  75,  St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D2)  62
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  80,  Sarah Lawrence  (Other)  51

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          58
NCAA D2      13         51
NAIA D1       14         29
NAIA D2       131      111           
NCCAA          49        25
USCAA          81        21
Other           53          3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 07, 2010, 09:22:43 PM
games  2/6, 2/7


Nebraska Wesleyan  73,  Mount Marty  (NAIA-D2)  59
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  91,  Albany College of Pharmacy  (Other)  80
Lemoyne Owens  (NCAA-D2)  95,  Rust  89

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          58
NCAA D2      13         52
NAIA D1       14         29
NAIA D2       132      111           
NCCAA          49        25
USCAA          81        21
Other           54          3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on February 08, 2010, 11:17:53 PM
Feb. 8   Maryville (TN) NCAA D3 94 - Milligan NAIA 2 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 13, 2010, 10:41:34 AM
games Feb 8 - 12

Albany College of Pharmacy  (Other)  75,  Morrisville State  72
Chapman  72,  Hope International  (NAIA-D1)  35
Charleston W. Va.  (NCAA-D2)  100,  Methodist  70
Finlandia  85,  Northland Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  59
Greenville  83,  Logan Chiropractic  (Other)  80
Harris-Stowe  (NAIA-D1)  85,  Blackburn  49
Huntingdon  70,  Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  63
La Sierra  63,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  60
Lagrange  81,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  79
Lancaster Bible  99,  Davis  (NCCAA-D2)  54
Maryville (Tenn.)  94,  Milligan  (NAIA-D2)  73
Nebraska Wesleyan  73,  Midland Lutheran  (NAIA-D2)  59
New Jersey City  74,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  40
Piedmont  95,  Johnson Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  48
SUNY-Maritime  89,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  57


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          58
NCAA D2      13         52
NAIA D1       15         30
NAIA D2       135      111           
NCCAA          54       25
USCAA          81        21
Other           57          4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 15, 2010, 10:54:07 PM
Games of Feb 13, 14

Dordt  (NAIA-D2)  84,  Nebraska Wesleyan  59
Marywood  79,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (Other)  61
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  64,  Rutgers-Camden  56

D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          58
NCAA D2      13         52
NAIA D1       15         30
NAIA D2       135      112           
NCCAA          54       26
USCAA          81        21
Other           58          4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 18, 2010, 05:09:05 AM
Games Feb 15, 16

Bemidji State  (NCAA-D2)  99,  Finlandia  67
Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  62,  University of Dallas  54
Northland International  (NCCAA-D2)  67,  Maranatha Baptist  55
Rhodes  91,  Free Will Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  68
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  82,  Pratt  (Other)  51
Tennessee Temple  (NCCAA-D1)  80,  Sewanee  60

D3 record vs:
                   W         L            
NCAA D1       0          58
NCAA D2      13         53
NAIA D1       15         30
NAIA D2       135      112          
NCCAA          55       29
USCAA          81        21
Other           59         4


Before someone asks:
Final Totals for 2009

D3 vs.

D1....1-35
D2....12-57
NAIA 1....9-26
NAIA 2....130-97
NCCAA 1....7-2
NCCAA 2....38-15
USCAA....67-12
Other....60-11
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on February 18, 2010, 08:31:52 AM
UW Stout destroyed NAIA-II Silver Lake 102-72.  Silver Lake took a 1 point lead early in the second half, and then Stout took over, scoring 61 points in the half.

UW Oshkosh plays the now 0-23 Lakers this weekend
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: scottiedoug on February 18, 2010, 10:34:15 AM
Feb. 17    Maryville (TN) D3 98   -   Covenant NAIA 2   76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on February 18, 2010, 12:25:26 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on February 18, 2010, 08:31:52 AM
UW Stout destroyed NAIA-II Silver Lake 102-72.  Silver Lake took a 1 point lead early in the second half, and then Stout took over, scoring 61 points in the half.

UW Oshkosh plays the now 0-23 Lakers this weekend

Silver Lake is a member of the USCAA now. They dropped from NAIA when they de-emphasized athletics 10-15 years ago. Now they are starting to build them up again as they are trying to transform into a more residential campus.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 21, 2010, 01:45:37 PM
Games 2/17 - 2/20

Concordia (Neb.)  (NAIA-D2)  71,  Nebraska Wesleyan  57
Eureka  80,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  64
Franciscan  89,  Christendom  (USCAA)  48
Gallaudet  87,  Christendom  (USCAA)  70
MacMurray  84,  Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  71
Maryville (Tenn.)  98,  Covenant  (NAIA-D2)  76
Morningside  (NAIA-D2)  71,  Nebraska Wesleyan  62
North Central (Minn.)  91,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  72
Northland Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  74,  North Central (Minn.)  69
Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  69,  Huntingdon  56
Rust  113,  Philander Smith  (NAIA-D1)  108
Sage  84,  St. Joseph (Vt.)  (NAIA-D2)  70
UW-Oshkosh  100,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  51
UW-Stout  102,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  72
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  82,  Lancaster Bible  68
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  89,  Penn State-Berks  58


D3 record vs:
                    W         L           
NCAA D1       0          58
NCAA D2      13         53
NAIA D1       16         30
NAIA D2       137      114           
NCCAA          57       33
USCAA          87        21
Other           59         4

NOTE  missing 2/16  Milsaps - Wesley
          missing 2/19   Chapman - West Coast Baptist
ANYONE help?  not on Milsaps or Chapman sites - game is there with no result?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2010, 05:32:50 AM
hopefan,
Chapman beat West Coast Baptist 82-52 on 2-19.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 23, 2010, 07:05:59 AM
Alright Magic, that's one down!!!!

Anyone Anyone... did Millsaps and Wesley play?????
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 23, 2010, 12:54:11 PM
Seems like an odd game to play during the run to the SCAC tourney.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2010, 02:33:25 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 23, 2010, 07:05:59 AM
Alright Magic, that's one down!!!!

Anyone Anyone... did Millsaps and Wesley play?????

hopefan,
I received a reply earlier today from an e-mail I sent the SID at Millsaps. He was kind enough to inform me that yes the game was played and we can score one for the good guys as Millsaps beat Wesley 74-62. In fact I just checked and the score is now listed on the Millsaps D3 Hoops page.   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2010, 06:24:32 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 26, 2010, 02:33:25 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 23, 2010, 07:05:59 AM
Alright Magic, that's one down!!!!

Anyone Anyone... did Millsaps and Wesley play?????

hopefan,
I received a reply earlier today from an e-mail I sent the SID at Millsaps. He was kind enough to inform me that yes the game was played and we can score one for the good guys as Millsaps beat Wesley 74-62. In fact I just checked and the score is now listed on the Millsaps D3 Hoops page.   

hopefan,
Hold everything! I went to the Millsaps website just to see if the score was posted there and much to my surprise their schedule shows Wesley beating Millsaps 76-64. ??? It also shows them with a 12-13 record instead of the 13-12 record the D3Hoops team page shows. I'm waiting for a reply from the Millsaps SID to confirm the correct score. I would assume that what he told me earlier is right and someone at Millsaps has entered the wrong info on their website but I would wait for confirmation before you do anything with your totals.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 26, 2010, 02:08:32 PM
magic   -   nothing is ever easy, eh?

There are a few more scores to finish things up - possibly even next week  -  D3 schools in NCCAA tourney... I'll continue to monitor.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2010, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 26, 2010, 06:24:32 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 26, 2010, 02:33:25 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 23, 2010, 07:05:59 AM
Alright Magic, that's one down!!!!

Anyone Anyone... did Millsaps and Wesley play?????

hopefan,
I received a reply earlier today from an e-mail I sent the SID at Millsaps. He was kind enough to inform me that yes the game was played and we can score one for the good guys as Millsaps beat Wesley 74-62. In fact I just checked and the score is now listed on the Millsaps D3 Hoops page.  

hopefan,
Hold everything! I went to the Millsaps website just to see if the score was posted there and much to my surprise their schedule shows Wesley beating Millsaps 76-64. ??? It also shows them with a 12-13 record instead of the 13-12 record the D3Hoops team page shows. I'm waiting for a reply from the Millsaps SID to confirm the correct score. I would assume that what he told me earlier is right and someone at Millsaps has entered the wrong info on their website but I would wait for confirmation before you do anything with your totals.

hopefan,
I just heard back from the SID at Millsaps and Millsaps did indeed lose that game to Wesley 76-64. As smedindy commented earlier that it seemed like an odd game leading up to the SCAC tournament, well the Millsaps coach must have thought the same thing, because the SID stated that only Millsaps reserves played in the game. It was the hardest score I've ever tried to get ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 26, 2010, 04:41:12 PM
Well, now that that long national nightmare is over...we can have peace in our time.

Or at least accurate records.

Or something... :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 26, 2010, 04:44:51 PM
As we wind down on another year of d3 over NAIA2, I gotta ask - how much of the margin comes from reclassifying UMPI?! ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 26, 2010, 05:35:01 PM
UMPI was 0-6 vs d3  and 7-7 vs NAIA d2,  and 0-1 vs D1

so we gained only 6 games on the won loss   -  D3 was 6-0 against NAIAd2 UMPI, we wouldnt have had that if UMPI had been D3
Umpi would have been .500 vs NAIA D2, instead, they are 0-0  those games are meaningless to D3.

We would have picked up one more loss to D1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on March 18, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
couple of scores to report from the NCCAA playoffs:

2/24 Regional Semi-Final  Geneva 71, Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA d-2) 63
3/6  Regional Final  Geneva 81, Nyack (NCAA d-2) 74

3/18 NCCAA quarterfinals:
    Mid-Continent (NAIA d-1) 79, Geneva 57
    Northwestern 70, Mid-America Christian (NAIA d-1) 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on March 19, 2010, 03:59:20 AM
The NAIA Division II National Championship was won by the 15th ranked University of St. Francis, of Fort Wayne, Indiana who defeated #1 ranked Walsh College of North Canton, Ohio 67-66 on Tuesday March 16th. It marked the 2nd time this season that St Francis had beaten Walsh having done so back on December 13th 86-75, when Walsh was then ranked #2.

St. Francis defeated the 18th-ranked team, the 2nd-ranked team, the 10th-ranked team, the 6th-ranked team and the No. 1 ranked team enroute to winning the NAIA Division II Men's Basketball National Championship.

I don't beleive either one of these teams played a D3 team this season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on March 21, 2010, 02:21:46 AM
To cap off the season, Northwestern is the first D3 team to win the NCCAA Division 1 championship (http://www.nwceagles.com/news/2010/3/20/MBB_0321100010.aspx?path=mbball#)!

2/19 Semifinals
Northwestern 83, Mid-Continent (NAIA D-1) 76

2/20 Finals
Northwestern 58, King (NCAA D-2) 54


also Geneva took 5th place in a great showing for D3
Geneva 79, Mid-America Christian (NAIA D-1) 76
Geneva 71, Palm Beach Atlantic (NCAA D-2) 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on July 10, 2010, 05:59:31 PM
Sorry for leaving this page at end of season... got far too tied up with the D3 tourney...

Here are final D3 W-L vs non D3     2009-2010


D3 record vs:
                   W         L            
NCAA D1       0          58
NCAA D2      16         53
NAIA D1       18         31
NAIA D2       138      114          
NCCAA          61       35
USCAA          87        21
Other           60         4
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on July 10, 2010, 06:57:35 PM
Thanks for filling in for Rhodes this past season, Hopefan!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on September 30, 2010, 10:10:31 AM
To all who enjoy monitoring this page....   I took this over last year at the request of Rhodes Scholar, who had been doing it for years...  I had intended to run a data base of all scores on a daily basis and coming up with non D3 competition was an easy part of it....   However, I will not be running the data base this year, so will not be able to supply the necessary info for this page.   Several months ago I tried to contact Rhodes Scholar and he did not respond... now I notice he has not posted since March...     My suggestion is that one of our other data gurus consider picking this up...  it needs to be done with a data base... there are enough games out there that doing it 'manually' would surely become overwhelming and inaccurate over time.....   
While I will not be doing a data base this year (you might call it pressure from the home front), I enjoy it enough that I'm thinking I will be back to it in 2011-12.  Thanks to whomever volunteers for 2010-11.... ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on September 30, 2010, 03:45:57 PM
Hopefan: I just saw your post and sent you a personal message. I check the site just about every day, but since I haven't logged in since March, I didn't get your message. Sorry to hear you won't be able to keep the totals this year. And I won't be able to either.

Let me echo Hopefan. I hope someone comes forward and takes over the reigns this year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2010, 02:30:21 AM
Doesn't look like anyone will be doing the totals this year. I'll log on from time to time and post some results when I can and will be more than willing to help locate scores if someone wants to do the totals.

Lot of teams playing against D1 schools tonight. Unfortunately we lost them all.

Southeastern Louisiana 91       Millsaps    45
San Diego  83                            Occidental  66
Army 66                                      Vassar 49
Akron 89                                     Millikin 41
Texas-Arlington  88                    Texas Lutheran 45
Stephen F. Austin  114               Howard Payne  49
Texas State-San Marcos  89       Sul Ross State  62
Coastal Carolina 112                  Piedmont  52
Mercer  67                                   Oglethorpe  44
Chicago State  79                       Concordia (Ill) 75
Troy 100                                      Huntingdon  59
VMI 106                                       Randolph  65
Tennessee-Martin  70                 MacMurray College 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 13, 2010, 07:49:09 AM
I would note that these would all be considered exhibition games and would not count in w-l records..... ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2010, 02:26:25 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 13, 2010, 07:49:09 AM
I would note that these would all be considered exhibition games and would not count in w-l records..... ;)

See, that's why we need your expertise on this board. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 13, 2010, 04:30:07 PM
Notre Dame 72  Catholic 47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: repete on November 16, 2010, 12:58:32 PM
Also on "busy Monday," it was SJU 70, No. 8 D2 St. Cloud 65

http://www.gojohnnies.com/
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: stag44 on November 17, 2010, 11:34:37 AM
CMS defeats NAIA D1 #1 Azusa Pacific 81 - 79!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hugenerd on November 17, 2010, 11:09:13 PM
Colorado College defeats DI Air Forice, 60-57.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: D3guy1107 on November 18, 2010, 01:58:41 AM
Where does this win rank in the DIII vs DI's?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on November 18, 2010, 07:38:33 AM
Quote from: D3guy1107 on November 18, 2010, 01:58:41 AM
Where does this win rank in the DIII vs DI's?

I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in Leviticus as a sign of the end of times.  But I could be wrong...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2010, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: D3guy1107 on November 18, 2010, 01:58:41 AM
Where does this win rank in the DIII vs DI's?

In 2010 Massey Ratings.

Air Force #311 at a 0.954 Index  (#247 of 347 in NCAA D-I)
Colorado College #1365 at a -0.445 Index  (#235 of 412 in NCAA D-III)

That is very impressive and improbable.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 18, 2010, 10:29:53 AM

Air Force isn't the tournament team they've been in recent years, but they're a strong program.  I wouldn't be surprised if a top 10 d3 team won, but CC makes a real statement.

Air Force's big homecourt advantages are the altitude and the close quarters in the gym (its super tiny with stands right on top of the players).  CC isn't bothered by either of those factors (plus pre-Christmas crowds are often sparse at Clune).

Good win for the program.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2010, 02:18:45 PM
Is there anyway that we can "divvy-up" the workload by regions and submit the results to a co-ordinator to compile the results for us?

Once we get into conference play, the out-of-division results slow down.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: coebball70 on November 21, 2010, 09:58:29 PM
I'm still excited about this season's D3 wins over D1 and NAIA opponents.
The major success stories that I know of are:
Colorado College over Air Force Academy
Depauw over University of Evansville
CMS over Asusa(?) Pacific
Please help me with other wins that you can recall.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2010, 11:42:45 PM
Coeball......The Depauw win was in an exhibition game and does not count in DePauw's record....  the other two win's were in regular season games and they count......
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 22, 2010, 09:43:07 PM
I would help, but I really need to get going on my business plan. I've given myself a six month window to get this thing really rolling or I'll be workin' for the man again.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2010, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2010, 02:18:45 PM
Is there anyway that we can "divvy-up" the workload by regions and submit the results to a co-ordinator to compile the results for us?

Once we get into conference play, the out-of-division results slow down.

Let's get this going!

If enough fans volunteer, by the end of the season, I will have recorded the outcome of all of the South Region non-D3 games for the ASC and the SCAC.

Any takers for the GSAC, ODAC and the USASouth in the South Region?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 23, 2010, 05:54:32 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2010, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2010, 02:18:45 PM
Is there anyway that we can "divvy-up" the workload by regions and submit the results to a co-ordinator to compile the results for us?

Once we get into conference play, the out-of-division results slow down.

Let's get this going!

If enough fans volunteer, by the end of the season, I will have recorded the outcome of all of the South Region non-D3 games for the ASC and the SCAC.

Any takers for the GSAC, ODAC and the USASouth in the South Region?

I could do the Atlantic region: NJAC, CUNYAC and Skyline.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2010, 03:37:41 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2010, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2010, 02:18:45 PM
Is there anyway that we can "divvy-up" the workload by regions and submit the results to a co-ordinator to compile the results for us?

Once we get into conference play, the out-of-division results slow down.

Let's get this going!

If enough fans volunteer, by the end of the season, I will have recorded the outcome of all of the South Region non-D3 games for the ASC and the SCAC.

Any takers for the GSAC, ODAC and the USASouth in the South Region?

Ralph,
I could do most of the East Region.  Empire 8, Liberty League, and SUNYAC.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 25, 2010, 12:31:54 PM
I can provide the out-of-D3 results for the NCAC and OAC, but I'm not sure I can be trusted to identify correctly the affiliations of those non-D3 opponents.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 25, 2010, 12:37:42 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 25, 2010, 12:31:54 PM
I can provide the out-of-D3 results for the NCAC and OAC, but I'm not sure I can be trusted to identify correctly the affiliations of those non-D3 opponents.
Thanks, David!  +1!  :)
If you post the results, I trust that our friends will respectfully correct the affiliations.

This board is one of our favorites!

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 25, 2010, 01:13:38 PM
ASC Games

Nov 15th
D-2 St Mary's (San Antonio) 84 Sul Ross State 71


McMurry 82, Other (ACCA) Barclay College (Kansas) 25


Nov 16th
D-1 UTexas-Arlington 96, UT-Tyler 56

Hardin-Simmons 93, NAIA-1 Huston-Tillotson  80



Nov 18th
Louisiana College 81 New Orleans (provisional year-1) 78

I have a question of protocol for our "steering committee".  Let us not include any outcome involving any of the provisional teams, whether year 1 or year 4, either a win or a defeat.  Okay?



Nov 20th
D-2 Texas A&M Kingsville 55, Texas Lutheran 46
D-1 McNeese State 92  Louisiana College 53


NAIA -1 University of the Southwest 77, Sul Ross State 60
http://www.sulross.edu/pages/6222.asp?ssid=3910&nid=4088

Mississippi College 74, Pensacola College (NCCAA-1) 71
D-2 Dallas Baptist 94, Howard Payne 56



Nov 22nd
D-1 Texas Arlington 88, Hardin-Simmons 71
Sul Ross State 69, D-2 Texas-Permian Basin 68



Nov 23rd
Ozarks 90, Other ACCA Rhema Bible 64
NAIA-1 LSU-Shreveport 79, Texas Tyler 66

Vs D-1             0-3
Vs D-2             1-3
Vs NAIA-1         1-2
Vs NCCAA-1      1-0
Vs Other ACCA   2-0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 25, 2010, 01:59:29 PM
SCAC vs non-D3 for the 2010-11 season.

DePauw, Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Hendrix, Southwestern and Trinity -- no games

Birmingham-Southern 2/14  Atlanta Christian (NCCAA-2)
Centre 12/16 Asbury NAIA-1
Sewanee --11/30 Johnson Bible  (NCCAA-2)
             --  12/2 Free Will Baptist  (NCCAA-2)
             --  2/15 Free Will Baptist  (NCCAA-2)
11/16  -- Millsaps 72 Dillard (NAIA-1) 64
11/19  -- Millsaps 65 Pensacola Baptist (NCCAA-1)  53

Austin College 12/11 Rhema Bible (ACCA)

11/17 -- Colorado College 11/17 60, D-1 Air Force 57
             -- 11/30 D-2 Regis
             -- 12/14 CSU Pueblo

Vs D-1              1-0
Vs NAIA-1         1-0
VS NCCAA-1      1-0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on November 25, 2010, 07:13:13 PM
MIAA results:

Siena Heights (NAIA II) 71, Adrian 65 - 11/23
Lake Superior State (NCAA D2) 79, Albion 69 - 11/20
Alma 77, Indiana-Northwest (NAIA II) 73 - 11/15
Alma 88, Madonna (NAIA II) 69 - 11/18
UM-Dearborn (NAIA II) 77, Alma 75 - 11/19
Davenport (NAIA II) 88, Calvin 79 - 11/16
Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 64, Calvin 63 - 11/19
Calvin 61, Aquinas (NAIA II) 44 - 11/26
Davenport (NAIA II) 81, Hope 67 - 11/23
Cornerstone (NAIA II) 85, Hope 76 - 11/26
Aquinas (NAIA II) 70, Olivet 63 - 11/16
Olivet 88, UM-Dearborn (NAIA II) 70 - 11/18
Olivet 94, Madonna (NAIA II) 79  - 11/19

Yeesh. Maybe I shoulda doctored these a little bit...

vs. NCAA D2, 0-1
vs. NAIA II, 5-6
vs. NCCAA 2, 0-1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: breakfromcoaching on November 28, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Hope International 86 Caltech 53. 

Hope jumped on them early shooting 61% from the field including 7/10 from 3 pt range and Caltech couldn't recover.  There's a lid on the rim as Caltech is shooting 29% from the field through 3 games this year not to mention last years's leading scorer Mike Edwards at 18%.  Ryan Elmquist is carrying the team so far at 19.7 pts per game and top frosh Cramer and Paluchniak are averaging 12 and 8 pts respectively.

It's only a matter of time before Edwards breaks out of the rut he's in and on any night is capable of going for 30.  If the team can continue getting this production from Elmquist, and can get a little more from Cramer and Paluchniak, all they'll need are spot contributions from the bench and they'll be in every game.

With youth and injuries the league is wide open.  Anyone can be beat on a given night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 28, 2010, 03:45:27 PM
Ohio Wesleyan 72, Indiana U.-East (NAIA 2) 64 (11/27)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 30, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Atlantic Region (All games thru 11/28)

Elon (D1) 99, TCNJ 68
NJIT (D1) 96, NYU-Poly 49
John Jay 66, Vaughn (other) 53
Maryland Eastern Shore (D1) 86, Kean 68
St. Joseph's, LI 111, Vaughn (other) 69
Virginia-Wise (NAIA 1) 81, Farmingdale State 76
Montclair State 90, PSU Mont Alto (USCAA) 63
Penn State-Brandywine (USCAA) 78, TCNJ 70
John Jay 84, St. Joseph's, Brooklyn (USCAA) 83
Montclair State 65, Berkeley, NJ (USCAA) 49
Sage 93, Albany Pharmacy (other) 71
Lehman 78, Vaughn (other) 51
Embry-Riddle (NAIA 2) 87, Medgar Evers 60

D3 vs.

D1....0-3
NAIA 1....0-1
NAIA 2....0-1
USCAA....3-1
Other....4-0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2010, 12:37:23 PM
Mid-Atlantic Region (Games thru 11/30)

Wilkes 74, Penn State Hazelton (USCAA) 45
Drew 110, Berkeley, NJ (other) 77
Arcadia 80, Penn College (USCAA) 68
La Roche 85, Central Penn (USCAA) 57
Mount Aloysius 116, Penn State Greater Allegheny (USCAA) 113
Eastern 73, Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 51
Navy (D1) 74, Neumann 62
Lycoming 90, Penn State Hazelton (USCAA) 46
Alvernia 107, Penn State Schuylkill (USCAA) 59
Lycoming 98, Penn State Wilkes Barre (USCAA) 58
Marywood 72, Penn State Hazelton (USCAA) 56
High Point (D1) 86, Gwynedd-Mercy 77
Juniata 82, Penn State Mont Alto (USCAA) 61
Delaware State (D1) 103, Philadelphia Bible 41
Susquehanna 92, Penn College (USCAA) 60
Goucher 63, Maryland Bible (other) 54
Mount Aloysius 108, Penn State Du Bois (USCAA) 86

D3 vs.

D1....0-3
USCAA....12-0
Other....2-0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2010, 02:58:53 AM
East Region Games.  I did this team by team to catch up.

Penn St.-Du Bois (USCAA) 90  Alfred 72  on 11-15
Penn College (USCAA) 61 Alfred 59  on 11-22
Alfred 73 SUNY Canton (NAIA 2) 49 on 12-1
Alfred 88 Paul Smith's College (NAIA 2) 43  on 12-5
Buffalo St. 97 Point Park (NAIA2) 89  on 11-19
Clarkson 103 SUNY Canton (NAIA 2) 62 on 11-19
Clarkson 98 Paul Smith's College (NAIA 2) 60  on 11-30
Geneseo St. 89 Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 60 on 12-4
SUNY Canton (NAIA 2) 68 Keuka 61 on 11-15
Nazareth 83 Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 74  on 12-1
Potsdam St. 74 St. Joseph's (Vermont) (NAIA 2) 59  on 11-19
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA 2) 82  Rochester Tech 72  on 12-3
RPI 104 Paul Smith's College (NAIA 2)  77  on 11-20
Sage 93 Albany Pharmacy (Other) 71  on 11-22
St. Lawrence 92 Paul Smith's College (NAIA 2) 50 on 11-16
Univ. Texas Pan American (D1) 95 SUNY Cobleskill 66  on 11-24
Berkeley College of NY (USCAA) 68 Vassar College 49 on 11-28

That's all games in the East region from November 15 through December 5th

D3 vs

D1..............0-1
NAIA 2.......10-2
USCAA........0-3
Other..........1-0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: nwhoops1903 on December 09, 2010, 02:31:20 PM
NWC conference school Pacific Lutheran defeats Division II Saint Martin's, 67-66.

PLU now 3-4 SM now 6-3.  Losses to U of Wash and Chaminade.  Pretty decent win.

http://www.golutes.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/201012081aaigu
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2010, 01:54:53 AM
East region         

Fredonia St. 53 Houghton (NAIA 2) 52  on 12-09

RPI 87  St. Joseph's (Vermont) (NAIA 2) 68 on 12-10
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 13, 2010, 09:07:50 PM
Here's the WIAC's current record vs. non-D-III


   Vs. NAIA-II      5-3     2 to play
   Vs. NCAA II      0-2      
   Vs. USCAA      2-0     1 to play




   La Crosse                      
                        
   11/20/10      Trinity Intl. (IL)       L 64-71      NAIA-II   
   11/23/10      Viterbo      W 70-57      NAIA-II   
                        
                        
   Eau Claire                      
                        
   11/20/10      Clarke (IA)      W 84-63      NAIA-II   
   11/27/10      Silver Lake      W 90-62      USCAA   
                        
                        
   Stout                      
                        
   11/23/10      Bemidji State (MN)      L 87-89      NCAA II   
   11/28/10      Sioux Falls (SD)      L 80-87      NAIA-II   
   12/18/10      Viterbo            NAIA-II   
                        
                        
   Oshkosh                      
                        
   11/26/10      Silver Lake      W 67-38      USCAA   
   02/19/11      Silver Lake            USCAA   
                        
                        
   Superior                      
                        
   11/23/10      UM Duluth      L 74-78      NCAA II   
                        
                        
   River Falls                      
                        
   11/16/10      Viterbo      W 74-41      NAIA-II   
   11/19/10      Simpson (IA)      W 90-69      IIAC   
   11/27/10      St. Thomas (TX)      L 59-63      NAIA-II   
   12/30/10      Sioux Falls (SD)            NAIA-II   
                        
                        
   Platteville                      
                        
   11/19/10      Clarke (IA)      W 66-49      NAIA-II   
   11/27/10      McPherson (KS)      W 70-56      NAIA-II   
                        

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2010, 11:22:14 PM
Southern Methodist 70, at McMurry 67

Link (http://www.mcmurrysports.com/news/2010/12/18/MBB_1218104703.aspx)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 19, 2010, 04:06:50 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2010, 11:22:14 PM
Southern Methodist 70, at McMurry 67

Where's the D3 team in this game?  ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 19, 2010, 01:28:42 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 19, 2010, 04:06:50 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2010, 11:22:14 PM
Southern Methodist 70, at McMurry 67

Where's the D3 team in this game?  ;)

Beware the wrath of Ralph if you kick out McMurry prematurely! :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wooscotsfan on January 01, 2011, 06:43:45 PM
Final: #1 Wooster 72  NAIA 1 Willliam Carey 55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on January 01, 2011, 06:50:54 PM
Complete Ohio Athletic Conference results:

John Carroll 117, Indiana U. Northwest (NAIA 2) 80 (11/19)
Marietta 98, Salem International (D2) 95 (11/19)
Otterbein 85, Penn State Greater Allegheny (USCAA) 45 (11/20)
Grace Bible (NCCAA) 76, Heidelberg 66 (11/20)
Taylor (NAIA 2) 81, Heidelberg 65 (12/29)

vs. D1: 0-0
vs. D2: 1-0
vs. NAIA-1: 0-0
vs. NAIA-2: 1-1
vs. USCAA: 1-0
overall: 3-2

Complete North Coast Athletic Conference results:

Indiana U. East (NAIA 2) 90, Wittenberg 84 (11/16)
Wabash 66, Marian (IN) (NAIA 2) 51 (11/16)
Wooster 103, Cincinnati Christian (NAIA 2) 78 (11/17)
Allegheny 82, Penn State New Kensington (USCAA) 44 (11/23)
Ohio Wesleyan 72, Indiana U. East (NAIA 2) 64 (11/28)
Bryant (D1) 71, Oberlin 42 (12/29)
Wittenberg 62, Taylor (NAIA 2) 60 (12/30)
Wooster 72, William Carey (NAIA 1) 55 (1/1)

vs. D1: 0-1
vs. D2: 0-0
vs. NAIA-1: 1-0
vs. NAIA-2: 4-1
vs. USCAA: 1-0
overall: 6-2

Both conferences appear to be done with non-d3 games.  I don't think I've missed any, but double-checking is appreciated.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on January 01, 2011, 11:32:55 PM
MIAA results. Should be complete.

Siena Heights (NAIA II) 71, Adrian 65 - 11/23
UM-Dearborn 70 (NAIA II), Adrian 60
Adrian 61, St. Francis (Ill.) (NAIA I) 52,
Adrian 68, Notre Dame College (NAIA II) 62

Lake Superior State (NCAA D2) 79, Albion 69 - 11/20
Albion 57, Spring Arbor (NAIA II) 49

Alma 77, Indiana-Northwest (NAIA II) 73 - 11/15
Alma 88, Madonna (NAIA II) 69 - 11/18
UM-Dearborn (NAIA II) 77, Alma 75 - 11/19
Western Michigan (D1) 109, Alma 50
Purdue Calumet (NAIA II) 89, Alma 85

Davenport (NAIA II) 88, Calvin 79 - 11/16
Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 64, Calvin 63 - 11/19
Calvin 61, Aquinas (NAIA II) 44 - 11/26
Calvin 81, Cornerstone (NAIA II) 76
Calvin 90, Trinity (Ill.) (NAIA II) 79
Aquinas (NAIA II) 78, Calvin 76

Davenport (NAIA II) 81, Hope 67 - 11/23
Cornerstone (NAIA II) 85, Hope 76 - 11/26
Hope 92, Aquinas (NAIA II) 69
Grace Bible (NCCAA 2) 93, Hope 90
Hope 104, Purdue North Central (NAIA II) 78
Hope 91, Marygrove (NAIA II) 68
Hope 86, Malone (NAIA II) 80

Davenport (NAIA II) 83, Kalamazoo 59

Aquinas (NAIA II) 70, Olivet 63 - 11/16
Olivet 88, UM-Dearborn (NAIA II) 70 - 11/18
Olivet 94, Madonna (NAIA II) 79  - 11/19
Grand Valley State (D2) 79, Olivet 45
Spring Arbor (NAIA II) 72, Olivet 61
Northwood (Fla.) (NAIA II) 81, Olivet 65

Trine 90, Miami-Hamilton (USCAA) 69
Trine 88, Purdue North Central (NAIA II) 72

vs. NCAA D1, 0-1
vs. NCAA D2, 0-2
vs. NAIA I, 1-0
vs. NAIA II, 14-12
vs. NCCAA 2, 0-2
vs. USCAA 1-0

someone check my math.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on January 02, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
Miami-Hamilton is apparently USCAA.


..Adrian beat St. Francis, Ill (NAIA I) 61-52,
http://www.adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/box_scores/20101130_44ws.xml
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on January 02, 2011, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: sac on January 02, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
Miami-Hamilton is apparently USCAA.


..Adrian beat St. Francis, Ill (NAIA I) 61-52,
http://www.adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/box_scores/20101130_44ws.xml

Fixed. Thanks. We play too many non-D3 games, don't we?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on January 02, 2011, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 02, 2011, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: sac on January 02, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
Miami-Hamilton is apparently USCAA.


..Adrian beat St. Francis, Ill (NAIA I) 61-52,
http://www.adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/box_scores/20101130_44ws.xml

Fixed. Thanks. We play too many non-D3 games, don't we?

Not when geography, economics and the fact the two larger conferences in our region have fewer non-conference games available, and more D3 options closer to home.....and the fact that all 4 D3 conferences close to use not named the CCIW have started conference play in early December.  Not to mention the two best NAIA II conferences in the country right now are the WHAC and MCC, right in our neighborhood.

The games that make no sense are the D1 and D2 games.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 02, 2011, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: sac on January 02, 2011, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 02, 2011, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: sac on January 02, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
Miami-Hamilton is apparently USCAA.


..Adrian beat St. Francis, Ill (NAIA I) 61-52,
http://www.adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/box_scores/20101130_44ws.xml

Fixed. Thanks. We play too many non-D3 games, don't we?

Not when geography, economics and the fact the two larger conferences in our region have fewer non-conference games available, and more D3 options closer to home.....and the fact that all 4 D3 conferences close to use not named the CCIW have started conference play in early December.  Not to mention the two best NAIA II conferences in the country right now are the WHAC and MCC, right in our neighborhood.

The games that make no sense are the D1 and D2 games.
It depends.

What was the gate from the D1 game, and what did you do with the money?   ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on January 02, 2011, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 02, 2011, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: sac on January 02, 2011, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 02, 2011, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: sac on January 02, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
Miami-Hamilton is apparently USCAA.


..Adrian beat St. Francis, Ill (NAIA I) 61-52,
http://www.adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/box_scores/20101130_44ws.xml

Fixed. Thanks. We play too many non-D3 games, don't we?

Not when geography, economics and the fact the two larger conferences in our region have fewer non-conference games available, and more D3 options closer to home.....and the fact that all 4 D3 conferences close to use not named the CCIW have started conference play in early December.  Not to mention the two best NAIA II conferences in the country right now are the WHAC and MCC, right in our neighborhood.

The games that make no sense are the D1 and D2 games.
It depends.

What was the gate from the D1 game, and what did you do with the money?   ;)

2,319 showed up to watch WMU and Alma, so the gate couldn't have been that much.  And surely Alma hasn't used any of the money to upgrade their webpage. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 02, 2011, 11:39:43 PM
Quote from: sac on January 02, 2011, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 02, 2011, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: sac on January 02, 2011, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 02, 2011, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: sac on January 02, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
Miami-Hamilton is apparently USCAA.


..Adrian beat St. Francis, Ill (NAIA I) 61-52,
http://www.adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2010-11/box_scores/20101130_44ws.xml

Fixed. Thanks. We play too many non-D3 games, don't we?

Not when geography, economics and the fact the two larger conferences in our region have fewer non-conference games available, and more D3 options closer to home.....and the fact that all 4 D3 conferences close to use not named the CCIW have started conference play in early December.  Not to mention the two best NAIA II conferences in the country right now are the WHAC and MCC, right in our neighborhood.

The games that make no sense are the D1 and D2 games.
It depends.

What was the gate from the D1 game, and what did you do with the money?   ;)

2,319 showed up to watch WMU and Alma, so the gate couldn't have been that much.  And surely Alma hasn't used any of the money to upgrade their webpage. ;)
Did Alma get a $5K or $10K guarantee?      :)  Thanks.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on October 25, 2011, 09:34:38 PM

39 opportunities to play with the big boys    Scheduled D3 vs D1 for 2011-12


11/15/2011   Howard Payne  ASC  vs  Texas State
11/15/2011   Marywood  CSAC  vs  Army
11/15/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Davis
11/16/2011   Randolph  ODAC  vs  Norfolk State
11/17/2011   Lyndon State  NAC  vs  Yale
11/18/2011   Rutgers-Camden  NJAC  vs  Elon
11/18/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
11/19/2011   Simpson  IIAC  vs  Upper Iowa
11/20/2011   Polytechnic  SKY  vs  New Jersey Tech
11/22/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Eastern Illinois
11/23/2011   Philadelphia Bible  CSAC  vs  Delaware State
11/29/2011   Lewis and Clark  NWC  vs  Portland
12/6/2011   Fredonia State  SUNYAC  vs  Youngstown State
12/13/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  UT-Chattanooga
12/7/2011   Willamette  NWC  vs  Montana State
12/8/2011   Linfield  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/9/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Southern
12/10/2011   Averett  USAC  vs  High Point
12/10/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Tulane
12/10/2011   Methodist  USAC  vs  Campbell
12/11/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Elon
12/12/2011   Arcadia  MACC  vs  Lehigh
12/12/2011   St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  IND  vs  New Jersey Tech
12/14/2011   Louisiana College  ASC  vs  Rice
12/14/2011   Marietta  OAC  vs  Ohio University
12/14/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Riverside
12/15/2011   Wentworth  CCC  vs  Texas Pan American
12/15/2011   Wesley  CAC  vs  William and Mary
12/16/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
12/16/2011   Pacific Lutheran  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/17/2011   La Verne  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Fullerton
12/19/2011   Loras  IIAC  vs  Northern Iowa
12/27/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Western Illinois
12/30/2011   Pomona-Pitzer  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Bakersfield
12/31/2011   Texas-Tyler  ASC  vs  Stephen F. Austin
1/3/2012   Oswego State  SUNYAC  vs  Texas Pan American
1/7/2012   Albright  MACC  vs  Cornell (N.Y.)
1/8/2012   St. Joseph's (L.I.)  SKY  vs  Yale
1/14/2012   SUNY-Cobleskill  NEAC  vs  New Jersey Tech
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on October 25, 2011, 09:43:29 PM
Texas State's website also lists an 11/11 game against Texas Lutheran. (I was checking to see if the Howard Payne game was an exhibition. It isn't, and the TLU game isn't listed as an exhibition, either...)

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on October 26, 2011, 07:29:18 AM
Smed - I'm thinking any D3 game prior to 11/15 is an exhibition, and Pat corrected me over in the SLIAC room that any game vs D1 from the 15th on must be real.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on October 26, 2011, 09:48:09 AM
OK. Well, it may be an exhibition but Texas State isn't noting it as such, and are promoting the heck out of it on their web site  as a men's and women's doubleheader.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on October 26, 2011, 10:26:09 AM
One more to add:

11/30/2011  Hope MIAA at Western Michigan
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on October 26, 2011, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: hopefan on October 25, 2011, 09:34:38 PM

39 opportunities to play with the big boys    Scheduled D3 vs D1 for 2011-12


11/15/2011   Howard Payne  ASC  vs  Texas State
11/15/2011   Marywood  CSAC  vs  Army
11/15/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Davis
11/16/2011   Randolph  ODAC  vs  Norfolk State
11/17/2011   Lyndon State  NAC  vs  Yale
11/18/2011   Rutgers-Camden  NJAC  vs  Elon
11/18/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
11/19/2011   Simpson  IIAC  vs  Upper Iowa
11/20/2011   Polytechnic  SKY  vs  New Jersey Tech
11/22/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Eastern Illinois
11/23/2011   Philadelphia Bible  CSAC  vs  Delaware State
11/29/2011   Lewis and Clark  NWC  vs  Portland
12/6/2011   Fredonia State  SUNYAC  vs  Youngstown State
12/13/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  UT-Chattanooga
12/7/2011   Willamette  NWC  vs  Montana State
12/8/2011   Linfield  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/9/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Southern
12/10/2011   Averett  USAC  vs  High Point
12/10/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Tulane
12/10/2011   Methodist  USAC  vs  Campbell
12/11/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Elon
12/12/2011   Arcadia  MACC  vs  Lehigh
12/12/2011   St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  IND  vs  New Jersey Tech
12/14/2011   Louisiana College  ASC  vs  Rice
12/14/2011   Marietta  OAC  vs  Ohio University
12/14/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Riverside
12/15/2011   Wentworth  CCC  vs  Texas Pan American
12/15/2011   Wesley  CAC  vs  William and Mary
12/16/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
12/16/2011   Pacific Lutheran  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/17/2011   La Verne  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Fullerton
12/19/2011   Loras  IIAC  vs  Northern Iowa
12/27/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Western Illinois
12/30/2011   Pomona-Pitzer  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Bakersfield
12/31/2011   Texas-Tyler  ASC  vs  Stephen F. Austin
1/3/2012   Oswego State  SUNYAC  vs  Texas Pan American
1/7/2012   Albright  MACC  vs  Cornell (N.Y.)
1/8/2012   St. Joseph's (L.I.)  SKY  vs  Yale
1/14/2012   SUNY-Cobleskill  NEAC  vs  New Jersey Tech

Upper Iowa is a D2 school in the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference. Northern Iowa is a D1 school in the Missouri Valley Conference.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on October 26, 2011, 01:13:32 PM
thanks hickorycornhusker...  must have been a wishful thinking Freudian slip on my part.....  (Saw 'upper', but put 'Northern' in my sheet)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 26, 2011, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: smedindy on October 26, 2011, 09:48:09 AM
OK. Well, it may be an exhibition but Texas State isn't noting it as such, and are promoting the heck out of it on their web site  as a men's and women's doubleheader.

It's not the same rules for D-I and D-II teams. They can call it a real game and the D-III team can treat it as an exhibition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on October 26, 2011, 07:47:47 PM
Oooooh! That makes...no sense. But still...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 01, 2011, 05:20:33 AM
1 more to add to the list.

39 40 opportunities to play with the big boys    Scheduled D3 vs D1 for 2011-12


11/15/2011   Howard Payne  ASC  vs  Texas State
11/15/2011   Marywood  CSAC  vs  Army
11/15/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Davis
11/16/2011   Randolph  ODAC  vs  Norfolk State
11/17/2011   Lyndon State  NAC  vs  Yale
11/18/2011   Rutgers-Camden  NJAC  vs  Elon
11/18/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
11/19/2011   Simpson  IIAC  vs  Upper Iowa
11/20/2011   Polytechnic  SKY  vs  New Jersey Tech
11/22/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Eastern Illinois
11/23/2011   Philadelphia Bible  CSAC  vs  Delaware State
11/29/2011   Lewis and Clark  NWC  vs  Portland
12/6/2011   Fredonia State  SUNYAC  vs  Youngstown State
12/13/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  UT-Chattanooga
12/7/2011   Willamette  NWC  vs  Montana State
12/8/2011   Linfield  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/9/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Southern
12/10/2011   Averett  USAC  vs  High Point
12/10/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Tulane
12/10/2011   Methodist  USAC  vs  Campbell
12/11/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Elon
12/12/2011   Arcadia  MACC  vs  Lehigh
12/12/2011   St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  IND  vs  New Jersey Tech
12/14/2011   Louisiana College  ASC  vs  Rice
12/14/2011   Marietta  OAC  vs  Ohio University
12/14/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Riverside
12/15/2011   Wentworth  CCC  vs  Texas Pan American
12/15/2011   Wesley  CAC  vs  William and Mary
12/16/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
12/16/2011   Pacific Lutheran  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/17/2011   La Verne  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Fullerton
12/19/2011   Loras  IIAC  vs  Northern Iowa
12/27/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Western Illinois
12/30/2011   Pomona-Pitzer  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Bakersfield
12/31/2011   Texas-Tyler  ASC  vs  Stephen F. Austin
1/3/2012   Oswego State  SUNYAC  vs  Texas Pan American
1/4/2012  Buffalo State  vs  University at Buffalo
1/7/2012   Albright  MACC  vs  Cornell (N.Y.)
1/8/2012   St. Joseph's (L.I.)  SKY  vs  Yale
1/14/2012   SUNY-Cobleskill  NEAC  vs  New Jersey Tech





Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on November 01, 2011, 08:52:18 AM
And another one to add to the list.

Make that 41 opportunities to play with the big boys    Scheduled D3 vs D1 for 2011-12


11/15/2011   Howard Payne  ASC  vs  Texas State
11/15/2011   Marywood  CSAC  vs  Army
11/15/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Davis
11/16/2011   Randolph  ODAC  vs  Norfolk State
11/17/2011   Lyndon State  NAC  vs  Yale
11/18/2011   Rutgers-Camden  NJAC  vs  Elon
11/18/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
11/19/2011   Simpson  IIAC  vs  Upper Iowa
11/20/2011   Polytechnic  SKY  vs  New Jersey Tech
11/22/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Eastern Illinois
11/23/2011   Philadelphia Bible  CSAC  vs  Delaware State
11/29/2011   Lewis and Clark  NWC  vs  Portland
11/30/2011   Hope  MIAA  vs  Western Michigan
12/6/2011   Fredonia State  SUNYAC  vs  Youngstown State
12/13/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  UT-Chattanooga
12/7/2011   Willamette  NWC  vs  Montana State
12/8/2011   Linfield  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/9/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Southern
12/10/2011   Averett  USAC  vs  High Point
12/10/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Tulane
12/10/2011   Methodist  USAC  vs  Campbell
12/11/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Elon
12/12/2011   Arcadia  MACC  vs  Lehigh
12/12/2011   St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  IND  vs  New Jersey Tech
12/14/2011   Louisiana College  ASC  vs  Rice
12/14/2011   Marietta  OAC  vs  Ohio University
12/14/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Riverside
12/15/2011   Wentworth  CCC  vs  Texas Pan American
12/15/2011   Wesley  CAC  vs  William and Mary
12/16/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
12/16/2011   Pacific Lutheran  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/17/2011   La Verne  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Fullerton
12/19/2011   Loras  IIAC  vs  Northern Iowa
12/27/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Western Illinois
12/30/2011   Pomona-Pitzer  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Bakersfield
12/31/2011   Texas-Tyler  ASC  vs  Stephen F. Austin
1/3/2012   Oswego State  SUNYAC  vs  Texas Pan American
1/4/2012  Buffalo State  vs  University at Buffalo
1/7/2012   Albright  MACC  vs  Cornell (N.Y.)
1/8/2012   St. Joseph's (L.I.)  SKY  vs  Yale
1/14/2012   SUNY-Cobleskill  NEAC  vs  New Jersey Tech
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 01, 2011, 10:07:31 AM
Well, let's make it more correct by eliminating the Simpson vs Upper Iowa, which had originally been  input in error as D1 Northern Iowa..

40 opportunities to beat the Big Boys

11/15/2011   Howard Payne  ASC  vs  Texas State
11/15/2011   Marywood  CSAC  vs  Army
11/15/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Davis
11/16/2011   Randolph  ODAC  vs  Norfolk State
11/17/2011   Lyndon State  NAC  vs  Yale
11/18/2011   Rutgers-Camden  NJAC  vs  Elon
11/18/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
11/20/2011   Polytechnic  SKY  vs  New Jersey Tech
11/22/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Eastern Illinois
11/23/2011   Philadelphia Bible  CSAC  vs  Delaware State
11/29/2011   Lewis and Clark  NWC  vs  Portland
11/30/2011   Hope  MIAA  vs  Western Michigan
12/6/2011   Fredonia State  SUNYAC  vs  Youngstown State
12/13/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  UT-Chattanooga
12/7/2011   Willamette  NWC  vs  Montana State
12/8/2011   Linfield  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/9/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Southern
12/10/2011   Averett  USAC  vs  High Point
12/10/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Tulane
12/10/2011   Methodist  USAC  vs  Campbell
12/11/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Elon
12/12/2011   Arcadia  MACC  vs  Lehigh
12/12/2011   St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  IND  vs  New Jersey Tech
12/14/2011   Louisiana College  ASC  vs  Rice
12/14/2011   Marietta  OAC  vs  Ohio University
12/14/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Riverside
12/15/2011   Wentworth  CCC  vs  Texas Pan American
12/15/2011   Wesley  CAC  vs  William and Mary
12/16/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
12/16/2011   Pacific Lutheran  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/17/2011   La Verne  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Fullerton
12/19/2011   Loras  IIAC  vs  Northern Iowa
12/27/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Western Illinois
12/30/2011   Pomona-Pitzer  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Bakersfield
12/31/2011   Texas-Tyler  ASC  vs  Stephen F. Austin
1/3/2012   Oswego State  SUNYAC  vs  Texas Pan American
1/4/2012  Buffalo State  vs  University at Buffalo
1/7/2012   Albright  MACC  vs  Cornell (N.Y.)
1/8/2012   St. Joseph's (L.I.)  SKY  vs  Yale
1/14/2012   SUNY-Cobleskill  NEAC  vs  New Jersey Tech

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 01, 2011, 10:11:08 AM
Big Boy Pool:

Which of the 40 games vs the Big Boys will produce the most favorable scoring margin for a D3 team??? :o :o ??? ::)
Fun question because we D3 fanatics probably know a whole lot more about the D3 team capabilities than we know regarding the D1 teams!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on November 01, 2011, 11:05:13 AM
I'd take Oswego State vs. Texas Pan American
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 01, 2011, 12:02:41 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on November 01, 2011, 11:05:13 AM
I'd take Oswego State vs. Texas Pan American

Yeah, pre-season, that seems to be the best chance.

Although Elon's got two games against d3 and they're not very good.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 01, 2011, 12:28:15 PM
Southern had the lowest Sagarin rating last year, maybe MacMurray will spring an upset there!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 01, 2011, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 01, 2011, 10:11:08 AM
Big Boy Pool:

Which of the 40 games vs the Big Boys will produce the most favorable scoring margin for a D3 team??? :o :o ??? ::)
Fun question because we D3 fanatics probably know a whole lot more about the D3 team capabilities than we know regarding the D1 teams!!!

I'll take Wesley vs. William & Mary.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 01, 2011, 03:35:42 PM
 George Mason(RV votes) scores 18 straight late in 1st half to bust open a close game over Lycoming(MAC-Commonwealth) 90-62. (Washington Post)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 01, 2011, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on November 01, 2011, 11:05:13 AM
I'd take Oswego State vs. Texas Pan American

I'm actually going to see UTPA play Northwestern a week from Sunday.. they're heading up to play both NW and DePaul that weekend. 

The head coach is from the Chicago area and one of the assistants is my former teammate/roommate Nick Bennett from UWSP.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Captain Bob on November 01, 2011, 06:03:57 PM
Back to 41:

11/8/2011   Christopher Newport Univ. vs Hampton University
11/15/2011   Howard Payne  ASC  vs  Texas State
11/15/2011   Marywood  CSAC  vs  Army
11/15/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Davis
11/16/2011   Randolph  ODAC  vs  Norfolk State
11/17/2011   Lyndon State  NAC  vs  Yale
11/18/2011   Rutgers-Camden  NJAC  vs  Elon
11/18/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
11/20/2011   Polytechnic  SKY  vs  New Jersey Tech
11/22/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Eastern Illinois
11/23/2011   Philadelphia Bible  CSAC  vs  Delaware State
11/29/2011   Lewis and Clark  NWC  vs  Portland
11/30/2011   Hope  MIAA  vs  Western Michigan
12/6/2011   Fredonia State  SUNYAC  vs  Youngstown State
12/13/2011   Spalding  SLIAC  vs  UT-Chattanooga
12/7/2011   Willamette  NWC  vs  Montana State
12/8/2011   Linfield  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/9/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Southern
12/10/2011   Averett  USAC  vs  High Point
12/10/2011   MacMurray  SLIAC  vs  Tulane
12/10/2011   Methodist  USAC  vs  Campbell
12/11/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Elon
12/12/2011   Arcadia  MACC  vs  Lehigh
12/12/2011   St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  IND  vs  New Jersey Tech
12/14/2011   Louisiana College  ASC  vs  Rice
12/14/2011   Marietta  OAC  vs  Ohio University
12/14/2011   UC Santa Cruz  IND  vs  UC Riverside
12/15/2011   Wentworth  CCC  vs  Texas Pan American
12/15/2011   Wesley  CAC  vs  William and Mary
12/16/2011   Lynchburg  ODAC  vs  Coastal Carolina
12/16/2011   Pacific Lutheran  NWC  vs  Eastern Washington
12/17/2011   La Verne  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Fullerton
12/19/2011   Loras  IIAC  vs  Northern Iowa
12/27/2011   Eureka  SLIAC  vs  Western Illinois
12/30/2011   Pomona-Pitzer  SCIAC  vs  Cal State Bakersfield
12/31/2011   Texas-Tyler  ASC  vs  Stephen F. Austin
1/3/2012   Oswego State  SUNYAC  vs  Texas Pan American
1/4/2012  Buffalo State  vs  University at Buffalo
1/7/2012   Albright  MACC  vs  Cornell (N.Y.)
1/8/2012   St. Joseph's (L.I.)  SKY  vs  Yale
1/14/2012   SUNY-Cobleskill  NEAC  vs  New Jersey Tech
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 01, 2011, 06:33:21 PM
Captain Bob... take it off the board please...  for CNU, it is an exhibition game... there are a large number of them... the games in the discussion are real count em in the record games...  (note - any game prior to 11/15 is exhibition - a real game, but doe not count in the D3 team records).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Captain Bob on November 02, 2011, 01:57:48 AM
Sorry for the mistake, I wasn't aware of the 11/15 rule.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 02, 2011, 08:21:02 AM
No problem Captain... and of course this would be the spot to post the results of exhibition games vs D1..... ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 02, 2011, 08:44:38 AM

It looks like ESPN is airing some of these pre-season exhibitions.  St. Mary's (MD) vs St. John's was on ESPN3 last night and the Transylvania-Kentucky game is scheduled for ESPN3 tonight.

I really appreciate ESPN3.  We have basic cable from comcast, which means we get only the broadcast channels, but it does give me access to ESPN3, so there's very little I miss not having ESPN on the TV.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: augie77 on November 02, 2011, 09:03:53 AM
Clearly an exhibition game, but Augustana (Il) is playing at Valparaiso tomorrow.  Augustana is ranked # 2 in the pre-season d3hoops.com poll, so this poses an intriguing matchup between a top tier Division 3 team and a solid mid major.

Coverage, including links to the webcast can be found on Augustana's web site at http://www.augustana.edu/x11824.xml?eventid=7177


Augustana has a considerable size advantage over the Crusaders.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 02, 2011, 12:55:32 PM
Quote from: augie77 on November 02, 2011, 09:03:53 AM
Clearly an exhibition game, but Augustana (Il) is playing at Valparaiso tomorrow.  Augustana is ranked # 2 in the pre-season d3hoops.com poll, so this poses an intriguing matchup between a top tier Division 3 team and a solid mid major.

Coverage, including links to the webcast can be found on Augustana's web site at http://www.augustana.edu/x11824.xml?eventid=7177


Augustana has a considerable size advantage over the Crusaders.

That is the opposite of 90% of the D-1 vs. D-3 matchups, at least from just a gut reaction.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 02, 2011, 08:30:43 PM

So I watched about 45 seconds of the Kentucky-Transylvania game.  Let's just say that it's probably worth the chance to play on the court at Rupp.  The game itself is a bit silly.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 03, 2011, 12:34:39 AM
  I watched a creditable performance by St. Mary's in a loss to St. John's 77-70 on espn3.com. It was close throughout and tied with 4 mins left, despite reduced mins from McAuley who picked up 2 fouls in 1st min. Game is available for viewing on the website under the replay link.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 03, 2011, 09:25:13 AM
Obviously, you mean St. John's (NY) not St. John's (MN).   ;) Otherwise, that's a heck of a roadie for a weekday exhibition game!

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 03, 2011, 10:50:52 AM
Quote from: smedindy on November 03, 2011, 09:25:13 AM
Obviously, you mean St. John's (NY) not St. John's (MN).   ;) Otherwise, that's a heck of a roadie for a weekday exhibition game!
...and St. Mary's (MD) not St. Mary's (CA)!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 03, 2011, 11:31:41 AM
Derp! Of course!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on November 03, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
Not to be confused with conference rivals St. John's (MN) and St. Mary's (MN).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 03, 2011, 04:18:49 PM
... which might be still too far to travel for a midweek scrimmage. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 03, 2011, 11:41:45 PM
American(Patriot) 62 - Randolph-Macon(ODAC) 61
Florida(SEC) 114 - Catholic(Landmark) 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 03, 2011, 11:44:46 PM
Valparaiso 74, Augustana 65.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 04, 2011, 07:17:04 AM
Southern Illinois Edwardsville (SIUE) 70   Blackburn 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 04, 2011, 10:12:40 AM
In the Palm Beach Post today they wrote about the Florida / Catholic game with the angle that Billy Donovan's son plays for Catholic.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 04, 2011, 11:14:54 PM
Have not seen this anywhere officially, but Point Special reports a couple of Twitter feeds saying Carthage downed d1 NIU, 74-70 in OT.

Also, don't recall seing it here but Randy Mac lost to American U by only 1 point a couple of days ago.  (OOPS, reported just a couple of posts above. :-[)

They are both, of course, scrimmages, but still quite impressive.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: BoBo on November 04, 2011, 11:43:05 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 04, 2011, 11:14:54 PM
Have not seen this anywhere officially, but Point Special reports a couple of Twitter feeds saying Carthage downed d1 NIU, 74-70 in OT.

Also, don't recall seing it here but Randy Mac lost to American U by only 1 point a couple of days ago.  (OOPS, reported just a couple of posts above. :-[)

They are both, of course, scrimmages, but still quite impressive.

TRUE (http://athletics.carthage.edu/news/2011/11/4/Mens_Basketball_1104113448.aspx) according to Carthage
TRUE (http://www.niuhuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/110411aaa.html) according to NIU
True according to PointSpecial

It must be true!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2011, 01:09:08 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 04, 2011, 11:14:54 PM
Have not seen this anywhere officially, but Point Special reports a couple of Twitter feeds saying Carthage downed d1 NIU, 74-70 in OT.

Also, don't recall seing it here but Randy Mac lost to American U by only 1 point a couple of days ago.  (OOPS, reported just a couple of posts above. :-[)

They are both, of course, scrimmages, but still quite impressive.

They are exhibitions, though. A little better than scrimmages for legitimacy.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 05, 2011, 01:31:16 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2011, 01:09:08 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 04, 2011, 11:14:54 PM
Have not seen this anywhere officially, but Point Special reports a couple of Twitter feeds saying Carthage downed d1 NIU, 74-70 in OT.

Also, don't recall seing it here but Randy Mac lost to American U by only 1 point a couple of days ago.  (OOPS, reported just a couple of posts above. :-[)

They are both, of course, scrimmages, but still quite impressive.

They are exhibitions, though. A little better than scrimmages for legitimacy.

True.  I still have troubles remembering the difference between scrimmages and exhibitions. :P

Scrimaages are glorified practices.  Exhibitions are 'real' games (they just don't count).  Someday I will get that straight! :P
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 05, 2011, 09:28:25 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 05, 2011, 01:31:16 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2011, 01:09:08 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 04, 2011, 11:14:54 PM
Have not seen this anywhere officially, but Point Special reports a couple of Twitter feeds saying Carthage downed d1 NIU, 74-70 in OT.

Also, don't recall seing it here but Randy Mac lost to American U by only 1 point a couple of days ago.  (OOPS, reported just a couple of posts above. :-[)

They are both, of course, scrimmages, but still quite impressive.

They are exhibitions, though. A little better than scrimmages for legitimacy.

True.  I still have troubles remembering the difference between scrimmages and exhibitions. :P

Scrimaages are glorified practices.  Exhibitions are 'real' games (they just don't count).  Someday I will get that straight! :P

Don't worry, there's plenty of confusion (for some) later too... we're still in the preseason...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 05, 2011, 05:22:54 PM
Here's a link to the box score of the Carthage-NIU game.  http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/niu/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2011-12/box_score/stats_20111104aaa.pdf
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 05, 2011, 07:37:07 PM
D-1 programs do tend to have multiple cows if they can't beat a D-3 team, though.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 05, 2011, 09:52:53 PM
UWSP trails by 12 to Wisconsin in the exhibition in Madison.

Wisc came out and led 10-2, I think... and the teams have played pretty evenly since that point.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 05, 2011, 11:04:32 PM
Point lost 80-54 to Wisconsin.  Badgers hit a shot with 2 seconds left... I wish  they hadn't, 78-54 just looks a lot better!

Pretty good showing overall... they shot around 50% for the game (don't have final stats yet) but pretty poor from deep. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wooscotsfan on November 08, 2011, 10:11:19 PM
#9 Wooster played on the road tonight against D1 Bradley University in an Exhibition Game.

Final:  D1 Bradley 81  Wooster 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Captain Bob on November 08, 2011, 10:47:59 PM
Hampton (DI) 94, (at) Christopher Newport 79

CNU had a lot of hustle and outplayed HU for a good part of the first half (leading by as much as 6 or 8), but just couldn't keep it up.  We only trailed by 4 at the half, but were down in the second by more than 24.  I was disappointed by Hampton's attitude overall, their coach came out in sweatpants and none of the players had matching shoes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 08, 2011, 11:04:19 PM
Calvin 79, (D2) Ferris St. 72.  (exhibition)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 09, 2011, 09:20:21 PM
On the 12th, Hiram faces Akron as part of the 2K Sports Classic. Of course, it counts for Akron (and they upset Miss. State tonight) but is an exhibition for Hiram.

I guess the NCAA doesn't believe in balancing W/L records, do they?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2011, 10:25:07 PM
Harvard 76 MIT 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 11, 2011, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 08, 2011, 11:04:19 PM
Calvin 79, (D2) Ferris St. 72.  (exhibition)

Thanks for making the clarification, sac.  I assumed anyone reading this thread probably knew that 'games' before November 15th are always exhibitions (or scrimmages), but the reminder can't hurt.  Was it also an exhibition for Ferris State?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on November 12, 2011, 12:51:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 11, 2011, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 08, 2011, 11:04:19 PM
Calvin 79, (D2) Ferris St. 72.  (exhibition)

Thanks for making the clarification, sac.  I assumed anyone reading this thread probably knew that 'games' before November 15th are always exhibitions (or scrimmages), but the reminder can't hurt.  Was it also an exhibition for Ferris State?

Yes, both teams viewed that one as an exhibition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 12, 2011, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 11, 2011, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 08, 2011, 11:04:19 PM
Calvin 79, (D2) Ferris St. 72.  (exhibition)

Thanks for making the clarification, sac.  I assumed anyone reading this thread probably knew that 'games' before November 15th are always exhibitions (or scrimmages), but the reminder can't hurt.  Was it also an exhibition for Ferris State?

There have been times this game was an exhibition for Calvin, but a real game for Ferris State.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 12, 2011, 05:51:18 PM
Southern Methodist 78 McMurry 49 last night in Dallas.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 12:29:28 AM
Emory falls to D1  Mercer 66-57.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 02:03:32 AM
D1 Akron defeats Hiram 95-65 on Saturday night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 02:07:21 AM
Shenandoah falls to D1 Radford 79-50 on Saturday night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 02:12:24 AM
Methodist loses to D1 Coastal Carolina 104-61 on Saturday night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 02:15:27 AM
Bridgewater (Va.) loses to D1 High Point 95-52 Saturday night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 02:39:13 AM
Howard Payne falls to D1 Sam Houston State 76-42 Saturday night.

Pomona-Pitzer stays close but falls to D1 Pepperdine 59-50 Saturday night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 13, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
Wright State (D1 I suppose) 80, Kenyon 56
An exhibition for Kenyon; I neither know nor care if it counted for Wright St.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 13, 2011, 07:20:21 PM
Oh, David...it matters to us Horizon League junkies.  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 13, 2011, 07:31:43 PM
Akron (D1) 95, Hiram 65
Exhibition for the Pups; any MAC junkies out there?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 13, 2011, 07:35:32 PM
As I posted in the NCAC board (and here a few days ago), it's part of the 2K Sports Classic, so Akron gets to count it as part of an exempt tourney. Right now there are a lot of 'exempt' tourneys which are just twisting rules all sorts of sideways in D-1.

(And yes, I'm for the MAC too!)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 08:33:17 PM
D1 Stony Brook crushes Mount Ida 93-39 this afternoon. Smeds can't be for America East as well, can he? That's my conference as University of Vermont is just a ferry ride away.     
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 08:41:06 PM
D1 Louisiana Tech defeats Mississippi College 92-70 on Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 13, 2011, 08:42:14 PM
Oh, I'm for about every non-power mid-major that had a team that captured my imagination, like Vermont a few years back! (That and I used to do power rankings for every D-1 hoops team (and D-3 hoops team) when I had time. Just sick of seeing 19-14 7th place teams make the NCAA tourney (or at least they used to). Thankfully that doesn't happen in D-3!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 08:52:57 PM
Quote from: smedindy on November 13, 2011, 08:42:14 PM
Oh, I'm for about every non-power mid-major that had a team that captured my imagination, like Vermont a few years back! (That and I used to do power rankings for every D-1 hoops team (and D-3 hoops team) when I had time. Just sick of seeing 19-14 7th place teams make the NCAA tourney (or at least they used to). Thankfully that doesn't happen in D-3!

Yeah, I'm with you on those thoughts. Siena and UVM are my 2 favorites.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 09:00:07 PM
D1 Wofford over Emory and Henry 70-55 on Sunday afternoon.

D1 Troy downs LaGrange 116-63 Sunday evening .
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 09:06:39 PM
D1 Prairie View A&M defeats Schreiner 63-48 on Sunday evening.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2011, 09:12:41 PM
Penn State-Altoona loses to D1 Navy 88-54 on Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on November 13, 2011, 10:25:11 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 13, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
Wright State (D1 I suppose) 80, Kenyon 56
An exhibition for Kenyon; I neither know nor care if it counted for Wright St.


If it was played today, it probably counted for Wright state (D-1).  D-1 teams started their season on Friday, so any game between that date (the 11th) and the rest of the season, 99.9% sure it counts for the D-1 school.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 14, 2011, 11:20:22 PM
St. Joe(A-10) 90 - Scranton(Landmark) 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 03:37:15 AM
D1 TCU crushes Austin 103-45 on Monday night.

D1 Texas-Arlington defeats East Texas Baptist 99-64 on Monday night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 16, 2011, 12:48:59 AM
Indiana University-East (NAIA 2) 92, Wittenberg 84
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on November 16, 2011, 10:30:50 AM
Viterbo (NAIA II) 73, UW River Falls 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2011, 06:43:17 PM
Results from 11/15

Coe  90,  Faith Bapt. Bible  (NCCAA)  60         
Millsaps  65,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA)  63         
Sewanee  71,  Johnson Bible  (NCCAA)  26         
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  71,  Pacifica  (Other)  62         
Clarkson  86,  Paul Smith  (USCAA)  69         
Gallaudet  80,  Maryland Bible  (Other)  69         
Geneva  64,  Penn St.-Greater Allegheny  (USCAA)  44         
Green Mountain  83,  Albany Pharmacy  (Other)  80         
Greensboro  96,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  71         
Hope  63,  Rochester (Mich.)  (USCAA)  45         
King's  79,  Penn College  (USCAA)  63         
Lehman  72,  Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  71         
Lewis and Clark  65,  Northwest Chrst.  (NAIA-D2)  53         
Lycoming  97,  Penn St.- Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  63         
Mount Aloysius  131,  Penn St.-New Kensington  (USCAA)  72         
Pacific  70,  Evergreen St.  (NAIA-D2)  54         
Pitt-Greensburg  92,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  83         
Simpson  94,  AIB College of Business  (NAIA-D2)  68         
Thomas  95,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  80         
Washington and Jefferson  85,  Penn St.-Dubois  (USCAA)  83         
Wilkes  89,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  50         
Wisconsin Lutheran  81,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  55         
Ind.-East  (NAIA-D2)  92,  Wittenberg  84         
Northwestern Ohio  (NAIA-D2)  72,  Adrian  69         
Lake Superior St.  (NCAA-D2)  83,  Alma  74         
Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  69,  Cornell  60         
St. Joseph's (VT)  (USCAA)  91,  Endicott  88         
St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D2)  75,  Greenville  74         
Texas St.  (NCAA-D1)  96,  Howard Payne  65         
SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  67,  Keuka  49         
Corban  (NAIA-D2)  71,  Linfield  68         
Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  68,  Olivet  62         
Mount Marty  (NAIA-D2)  66,  Presentation  49         
Virginia Intermont  (NAIA-D2)  60,  Randolph  56         
UC Davis  (NCAA-D1)  84,  UC Santa Cruz  78         
Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  73,  UW-River Falls  63         
Cal Baptist  (NCCAA)  71,  Redlands  67         


D3 versus:

   W   L
NCAA-D1   0   2
NCAA-D2   0   1
NAIA-D1   0   0
NAIA-D2   3   9
NCCAA   3   1
USCAA   13   2
Other   3   0

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 16, 2011, 06:49:49 PM
Tough start against the NAIA. But they do get a head start!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2011, 07:00:12 PM
I had listed games vs D1 before and invited guesses as to which game would be the 'best' margin for the D3 team.. not many guessed... but I wonder if any team will come closer than the Banana Slugs did last night, losing to Cal Davis by only 6... good prep for Davis, who plays Stanford next!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 16, 2011, 10:28:49 PM
FYI - Johnson & Wales (NC) is a USCAA school.
I'm also the SID for the USCAA as well as the APprentice School :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 17, 2011, 12:30:24 AM
forgive me, but I forget how the board handles dual membership schools.  I'll point out Rochester College holds NAIA and USCAA membership.  I think this is their 1st or 2nd year in NAIA.

I do not know which tournament they have opted for this year, if they have at all.  Usually they've been in the USCAA tournament.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2011, 04:47:02 AM
NNASID   thanks , I made correction

Sac...  I guess   ;) ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2011, 08:39:20 PM
Scores of 11/16:

Blackburn  97,  St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D2)  64            
Drew  90,  Vaughn  (Other)  49            
Emory and Henry  77,  Hiwassee  (USCAA)  69            
La Roche  72,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  71            
North Carolina Wesleyan  90,  Roanoke Bible  (Other)  56            
Occidental  81,  American Sports  (Other)  73            
RPI  88,  Cooper Union  (Other)  72            
Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  75,  Johnson State  46            
Norfolk St.  (NCAA-D1)  63,  Randolph  43            
Army  (NCAA-D1)  95,  Marywood  40            

D3 vs .... thru 11/16

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   0   1
NAIA-D1   0   0
NAIA-D2   4   9
NCCAA   3   1
USCAA   15   3
Other   7   0




Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 17, 2011, 10:32:21 PM
I clicked on Vaughn, which lead me to their conference, and then to a school that had a neat logo and nickname.

The CIA Steels:

http://www.hvmac.net/members/culinary/

Yes, the Culinary Institute of America has a hoops team.

I wonder if they beat an opponent, if Ted Allen comes on the PA and says, "You've been...Chopped!"
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 17, 2011, 10:39:03 PM
^^^

Nah, "sliced and diced" for blowouts, "parboiled" for close ones. 8-)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 17, 2011, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: smedindy on November 17, 2011, 10:32:21 PM
I clicked on Vaughn, which lead me to their conference, and then to a school that had a neat logo and nickname.

The CIA Steels:

http://www.hvmac.net/members/culinary/

Yes, the Culinary Institute of America has a hoops team.

I wonder if they beat an opponent, if Ted Allen comes on the PA and says, "You've been...Chopped!"

'boom'  3 points
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 17, 2011, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 16, 2011, 06:43:17 PM
Results from 11/15
      
Geneva  64,  Penn St.-Greater Allegheny  (USCAA)  44         
Lycoming  97,  Penn St.- Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  63         
Mount Aloysius  131,  Penn St.-New Kensington  (USCAA)  72         
Pitt-Greensburg  92,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  83         
Washington and Jefferson  85,  Penn St.-Dubois  (USCAA)  83         
Wilkes  89,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  50

Quote from: hopefan on November 17, 2011, 08:39:20 PM
Scores of 11/16:

La Roche  72,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  71

It's just not a good time right now to be Penn State.

Quote from: smedindy on November 17, 2011, 10:32:21 PM
I clicked on Vaughn, which lead me to their conference, and then to a school that had a neat logo and nickname.

The CIA Steels:

http://www.hvmac.net/members/culinary/

Yes, the Culinary Institute of America has a hoops team.

I wonder if they beat an opponent, if Ted Allen comes on the PA and says, "You've been...Chopped!"

A dozen or so years ago, North Park played Kendall College, a school that was then located in Evanston (it's since moved into the city). Kendall's largest and most familiar component is a cooking school. Its basketball team, which has since been disbanded along with the rest of Kendall's athletic department, played its home games at Oakton Community College in nearby Skokie, and about thirty NPU students showed up there for the game. They were all wearing aprons and chef hats, and they'd all managed to scrounge up pots, pans, big spoons, etc., that they banged on throughout the entire game. In keeping with NPU's Swedish heritage, a number of them wore red bowties and bushy fake moustaches and eyebrows and jeered Kendall in Swedish Chef gibberish.

The Kendall players loved it. I'm guessing that it was the first, last, and only time that they ever played a home game in front of an audience that consisted of something other than parents and girlfriends.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on November 17, 2011, 11:20:26 PM
You can add Penn College to those scores. It's a two-year school that is part of the Penn State University system. The graduates' diplomas read "Penn State University" on them. I only know that because my brother goes there.

King's 79  Penn College 63

"We are...not good."
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2011, 05:03:08 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 17, 2011, 11:20:26 PM
You can add Penn College to those scores. It's a two-year school that is part of the Penn State University system. The graduates' diplomas read "Penn State University" on them. I only know that because my brother goes there.

King's 79  Penn College 63

"We are...not good."

It was already there Gordon, in the 11/15 scores.... ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2011, 09:18:15 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 17, 2011, 11:20:26 PM
You can add Penn College to those scores. It's a two-year school that is part of the Penn State University system. The graduates' diplomas read "Penn State University" on them. I only know that because my brother goes there.

King's 79  Penn College 63

"We are...not good."
As a 2-year college, do games against it count?  We will need to check the Handbook when it comes out.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2011, 10:04:34 AM
Penn College confuses me too... They have also been referred to as Penn Tech in the past... My impression was that they had some 4 year programs because they play, and have played, a number of D3 schools, but I may be wrong....  If anyone finds that these games don't count for the D3 team, let me know and I'll delete from our records.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2011, 10:06:52 AM
Nov 17

Letourneau  78,  Arlington Baptist  (Other)  58            
Yale  (NCAA-D1)  101,  Lyndon State  37            
Wayland Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  67,  Sul Ross State  48            

D3 vs:
            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   5
NCAA-D2   0   1
NAIA-D1   0   1
NAIA-D2   4   9
NCCAA   3   1
USCAA   15   3
Other   8   0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 18, 2011, 11:15:18 AM
The King's web site says: "Penn College of Technology".

A. The team is all freshmen and sophomores.
B. They have an archery team! That team (co-ed) had seniors and juniors.
C. They are members of the USCAA.

I think they count because of B and C.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Just Bill on November 18, 2011, 11:21:29 AM
A couple of D-III vs. D-II matches in Superior, Wis. this weekend. Tonight is Edgewood vs. Lake Superior State. Tomorrow, LSSU plays either UW-Superior or Finlandia.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on November 18, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
QuoteIt was already there Gordon, in the 11/15 scores

I know, I was referring to Greg's post on the woes of Penn State athletics.

Penn College and Penn College of Technology are the same place. It's a technical college in Williamsport. I think the traditional academic program is two years but some people -- including my brother -- go there longer depending on their course of study. 

I was in his dorm room one day and saw the media guide for the basketball team. They play in the same conference (PSUAC) as the other branch campuses that aren't Division III. So they are part of USCAA.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2011, 12:39:24 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 18, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
QuoteIt was already there Gordon, in the 11/15 scores

I know, I was referring to Greg's post on the woes of Penn State athletics.

Penn College and Penn College of Technology are the same place. It's a technical college in Williamsport. I think the traditional academic program is two years but some people -- including my brother -- go there longer depending on their course of study

I was in his dorm room one day and saw the media guide for the basketball team. They play in the same conference (PSUAC) as the other branch campuses that aren't Division III. So they are part of USCAA.
Go there longer?

My niece attended Texas Tech.  They have a 7- or 8-yr course of study for the baccalureate degree that is fairly common. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Just Bill on November 19, 2011, 09:32:25 AM
Edgewood College defeated D-II Lake Superior State 78-77 in OT last night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 19, 2011, 11:38:03 AM
Games of 11/18/11     Trivia question, what avid D3 fan celebrated his 39th anniversary today, and therefore could not attend a D3 game?

Albright  91,  Penn College  (USCAA)  55               
Alma  77,  Michigan-Dearborn  (NAIA-D2)  73               
Bates  71,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  69               
Calvin  92,  Grace Bible  (NCCAA)  88               
Covenant  80,  Free Will Baptist  (NCCAA)  68               
DePauw  98,  Marygrove  (NAIA-D2)  67               
Edgewood  78,  Lake Superior St.  (NCAA-D2)  77               
Endicott  102,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  53               
Guilford  86,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  71               
Heidelberg  89,  OSU Lima  (Other)  72               
Lesley  70,  Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  67               
McMurry  98,  Barclay  (Other)  59               
Medaille  72,  Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  61               
Messiah  63,  Penn St.- Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  40               
Mount St. Joseph  57,  Miami-Hamilton  (Other)  50               
New Jersey City  84,  Williamson Trade School  (USCAA)  35               
Philadelphia Bible  73,  Moody Bible  (Other)  55               
Presentation  79,  Crossroads  (Other)  62               
Puget Sound  99,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA)  88               
Randolph  88,  Christendom  (USCAA)  35               
Sewanee  85,  Boyce  (NCCAA)  54               
St. Vincent  70,  Penn St.-New Kensington  (USCAA)  46               
Thomas More  110,  Kent St.-Tuscarawas  (Other)  51               
Widener  115,  Penn St. Mont Alto  (USCAA)  47               
Virginia Intermont  (NAIA-D2)  86,  Averett  72               
Colorado State Pueblo  (NCAA-D2)  71,  Colorado College  57               
Virginia-Lynchburg  (Other)  72,  Emory and Henry  69               
Concordia (Ore.)  (NAIA-D2)  88,  George Fox  70               
Concordia (Ala.)  (USCAA)  87,  Huntingdon  82               
SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  69,  New England College  55               
Maryland Bible  (Other)  89,  North Carolina Wesleyan  83               
Madonna  (NAIA-D2)  76,  Olivet  48               
Elon  (NCAA-D1)  87,  Rutgers-Camden  53               
Winona State  (NCAA-D2)  89,  Simpson  57               
Coastal Carolina  (NCAA-D1)  87,  Spalding  43               
St. Cloud State  (NCAA-D2)  67,  St. John's  58               
Jamestown  (NAIA-D2)  78,  St. Scholastica  45               
Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  85,  Waynesburg  77               
The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  55,  York (N.Y.)  42   

Thru 11/18/11, D3 vs:
            
            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   7
NCAA-D2   1   4
NAIA-D1   0   1
NAIA-D2   7   13
NCCAA   7   1
USCAA   26   7
Other   14   2


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on November 20, 2011, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2011, 12:39:24 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 18, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
QuoteIt was already there Gordon, in the 11/15 scores

I know, I was referring to Greg's post on the woes of Penn State athletics.

Penn College and Penn College of Technology are the same place. It's a technical college in Williamsport. I think the traditional academic program is two years but some people -- including my brother -- go there longer depending on their course of study

I was in his dorm room one day and saw the media guide for the basketball team. They play in the same conference (PSUAC) as the other branch campuses that aren't Division III. So they are part of USCAA.
Go there longer?

My niece attended Texas Tech.  They have a 7- or 8-yr course of study for the baccalureate degree that is fairly common. ;)

I thought that was just because...you know....it was Texas.    ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sunny on November 20, 2011, 11:49:48 AM
The entire PSUAC offers four-year eligibility. Penn College's basketball team may all be freshmen and sophomore currently, but they do offer four-year eligibility.

http://static.psbin.com/v/t/lp7hd81dbtmqqj/Constitution_and_Bylaws_august20101-1-.pdf
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 13wapiti on November 20, 2011, 12:05:10 PM
MIAA Games from 11-19

Hope 73, Spring Arbor (NAIA DII) 56
Madonna  (NAIA DII) 78, Alma 73
Michigan-Dearborn (NAIA DII) 71, Olivet 62
Grace (NAIA DII) 78   Albion  67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 20, 2011, 04:57:42 PM
Wabash adds two to the slate.

Saturday, they beat NAIA (II) Calumet College of St. Joseph 63-55.
Sunday, the knocked off St. Francis (Ill) (NAIA I) 84-59.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2011, 11:46:30 PM
Games of 11/19/11

Albion  78,  Grace  (NAIA-D2)  67            
Bridgewater (Va.)  85,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  41            
Cal Lutheran  69,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  56            
Covenant  82,  Boyce  (NCCAA)  60            
Delaware Valley  86,  Penn St. Mont Alto  (USCAA)  73            
Hiram  84,  Notre Dame  (NCAA-D2)  73            
Hope  73,  Spring Arbor  (NAIA-D2)  56            
John Carroll  95,  Miami-Hamilton  (Other)  73            
LaGrange  73,  Concordia (Ala.)  (USCAA)  65            
Lesley  66,  SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  53            
Linfield  88,  Concordia (Ore.)  (NAIA-D2)  72            
Mary Washington  82,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  74            
McMurry  98,  Southwestern Adventist  (Other)  64            
Morrisville State  74,  Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  72            
Pacific Lutheran  77,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA)  46            
Pitt-Bradford  77,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  70            
Roger Williams  52,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  44            
Rutgers-Newark  86,  Penn College  (USCAA)  47            
Sewanee  88,  Free Will Baptist  (NCCAA)  42            
Suffolk  90,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  54            
Wabash  63,  Calumet St. Joseph  (NAIA-D2)  55            
Washington and Jefferson  62,  Pitt-Titusville  (USCAA)  52            
Wentworth  61,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  43            
Allegheny  89,  Point Park  (NAIA-D2)  91            
Alma  (73)  Madonna,  NAIA-D2  78            
Caltech  (63)  Vanguard,  NAIA-D1  78            
Colorado College  (49)  New Mexico Highlands,  NCAA-D2  71            
D'Youville  (67)  Grace Bible,  NCCAA  100            
East Texas Baptist  (69)  LSU-Shreveport,  NAIA-D1  71            
Elmira  (70)  Marygrove,  NAIA-D2  82            
Finlandia  (72)  Lake Superior St.,  NCAA-D2  89            
Franciscan (Ohio)  (62)  Akron-Wayne,  Other  86            
George Fox  (70)  Northwest (Wash.),  NAIA-D2  88            
Letourneau  (46)  Dallas Baptist,  NCCAA  78            
Lewis and Clark  (49)  Master's,  NAIA-D1  65            
Muskingum  (37)  Davenport,  NAIA-D2  54            
New England College  (72)  Berkeley College (NY),  USCAA  96            
Olivet  (62)  Michigan-Dearborn,  NAIA-D2  71            
Philadelphia Bible  (60)  Robert Morris,  NAIA-D1  97            
Simpson  (71)  Upper Iowa,  NCAA-D2  78            
Texas Lutheran  (63)  Texas A&M Kingsville,  NCAA-D2  73      


D3 vs thru 11/19
        
            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   7
NCAA-D2   2   8
NAIA-D1   0   5
NAIA-D2   14   19
NCCAA   10   3
USCAA   36   9
Other   16   3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2011, 05:59:42 AM
games of 11/20:

Muskingum  60,  Pitt-Titusville  (USCAA)  45      
North Carolina Wesleyan  82,  St. Andrews  (NCAA-D2)  77      
UC Santa Cruz  76,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  67      
Vassar  104,  Culinary Institute  (Other)  34      
Wabash  84,  St. Francis (Ill.)  (NAIA-D1)  59      
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Connecticut College  61      
New Jersey Tech  (NCAA-D1)  78,  Polytechnic  28      
Texas A&M Kingsville  (NCAA-D2)  88,  Sul Ross State  74      
Davenport  (NAIA-D2)  100,  Washington and Jefferson  47      

D3 vs.... thru 11/20

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   8
NCAA-D2   3   9
NAIA-D1   1   5
NAIA-D2   15   21
NCCAA   10   3
USCAA   37   9
Other   17   3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 21, 2011, 09:11:46 AM
The Steel just could get by Vassar - probably because their knives couldn't cut through the poetry anthologies they were brandishing.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2011, 10:34:34 AM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on November 20, 2011, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2011, 12:39:24 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 18, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
QuoteIt was already there Gordon, in the 11/15 scores

I know, I was referring to Greg's post on the woes of Penn State athletics.

Penn College and Penn College of Technology are the same place. It's a technical college in Williamsport. I think the traditional academic program is two years but some people -- including my brother -- go there longer depending on their course of study

I was in his dorm room one day and saw the media guide for the basketball team. They play in the same conference (PSUAC) as the other branch campuses that aren't Division III. So they are part of USCAA.
Go there longer?

My niece attended Texas Tech.  They have a 7- or 8-yr course of study for the baccalureate degree that is fairly common. ;)

I thought that was just because...you know....it was Texas.    ;)
Yeah, it is that way in Texas.  Why it is not uncommon for kids to disappear on 6th Street in downtown Austin (at the University of Texas) and not re-appear for years!     ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2011, 06:44:33 PM
Games of 11/21

St. Vincent  92,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  51   
Cazenovia  82,  Davis  (Other)  78      
MacMurray  87,  St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D2)  65   
Maranatha Baptist  86,  Emmaus  (NCCAA)  55      
William Woods  (NAIA-D1)  73,  Principia  54   
Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  74,  St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  64
Portland State (NCAA-D1) 101,  Linfield  64   

Record thru 11/21 vs:

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   9
NCAA-D2   3   9
NAIA-D1   1   6
NAIA-D2   16   21
NCCAA   11   3
USCAA   38   10
Other   18   3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Games of 11/22:

Adrian  77,  Siena Heights  (NAIA-D2)  67         
Alfred  86,  Penn College  (USCAA)  40         
Alma  77,  Kuyper  (NCCAA)  73         
Caltech  63,  Pacifica  (Other)  62         
Centenary  74,  Penn St.- Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  66         
Gallaudet  86,  Christendom  (USCAA)  56         
George Fox  68,  Corban  (NAIA-D2)  64         
Lehman  78,  Vaughn  (Other)  46         
Middlebury  61,  St. Joseph's (VT)  (USCAA)  48         
Montclair State  77,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (USCAA)  53         
North Carolina Wesleyan  88,  Roanoke Bible  (Other)  51         
Pacific  65,  Northwest Chrst.  (NAIA-D2)  37         
Piedmont  107,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA)  59         
Puget Sound  93,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA)  58         
Ripon  75,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  59         
Rutgers-Camden  54,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  50         
UW-La Crosse  53,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  36         
Westfield State  80,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  66         
Whittier  93,  Vanguard  (NAIA-D1)  78         
Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  81,  Blackburn  79         
Metro St.  (NCAA-D2)  71,  Colorado College  43         
Minnesota-Moorhead  (NCAA-D2)  96,  Concordia-Moorhead  56         
Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  67,  Franciscan (Ohio)  63         
Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  89,  Geneva  83         
SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  77,  Johnson State  73         
Houghton  (NAIA-D2)  68,  Keuka  63         
Jamestown  (NAIA-D2)  80,  Minnesota-Morris  64         
Concordia (Neb.)  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Nebraska Wesleyan  65         
Ferris State  (NCAA-D2)  82,  Olivet  46         
Westmont  (NAIA-D1)  76,  Redlands  69         
Bluefield  (NAIA-D2)  84,  Roanoke  81         
Minnesota Crookston  (NCAA-D2)  79,  St. Scholastica  53         
Concordia (Mi.)  (NAIA-D2)  92,  Trine  68         
Arlington Baptist  (Other)  59,  University of Dallas  55         
Bemidji State  (NCAA-D2)  70,  UW-Stout  57         
Minnesota Duluth  (NCAA-D2)  75,  UW-Superior  54      

Standings D3 vs :   thru 11/22

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   9
NCAA-D2   3   15
NAIA-D1   2   7
NAIA-D2   21   26
NCCAA   14   3
USCAA   45   14
Other   21   4
   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 24, 2011, 01:33:29 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Games of 11/22:

Caltech  63,  Pacifica  (Other)  62   

No longer a newsworthy event. Ho-hum, just another Beaver victory.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2011, 05:59:21 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 24, 2011, 01:33:29 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Games of 11/22:

Caltech  63,  Pacifica  (Other)  62   

No longer a newsworthy event. Ho-hum, just another Beaver victory.

Even more shocking when combined with last night's score:

Occidental     66      Pacifica     67     Final
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: mailsy on November 24, 2011, 10:20:16 AM
Here is a score from Tuesday:

Delaware State(D1) 104 Philly Bible 41.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on November 24, 2011, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 24, 2011, 05:59:21 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 24, 2011, 01:33:29 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Games of 11/22:

Caltech  63,  Pacifica  (Other)  62   

No longer a newsworthy event. Ho-hum, just another Beaver victory.

Even more shocking when combined with last night's score:

Occidental     66      Pacifica     67     Final

But then, of course,
2/22 Caltech 46 Occidental 45

It all adds up!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2011, 11:39:25 AM
Games of 11/23

Bluffton   74   Ohio Mid-Western   USCAA   61
Eastern Illinois   NCAA-D1   87   Eureka   56
Pacifica   Other   67   Occidental   66
Delaware State   NCAA-D1   104   Philadelphia Bible   41
Northern State   NCAA-D2   86   Presentation   42
Shawnee State   NAIA-D1   60   Wilmington   56

W/L vs D3 thru 11/23

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   11
NCAA-D2   3   16
NAIA-D1   2   8
NAIA-D2   21   26
NCCAA   14   3
USCAA   46   14
Other   21   5
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2011, 11:45:35 AM
Holiday Bonus!!!

Coference W/L vs NON Conference D3

1   Newmac   24   4   0.857
2   NWC   7   2   0.778
3   WIAC   20   7   0.741
4   LEC   20   8   0.714
5   ASC   13   6   0.684
6   UAA   17   8   0.680
7   Mascac   17   9   0.654
8   CCIW   17   9   0.654
9   NESCAC   17   9   0.654
10   MIAA   7   4   0.636
11   MACC   14   9   0.609
12   ODAC   17   11   0.607
13   CAC   15   10   0.600
14   Landmark   15   10   0.600
15   NJAC   18   12   0.600
16   HCAC   19   13   0.594
17   MIAC   16   11   0.593
18   NCAC   14   10   0.583
19   PrAC   14   10   0.583
20   E8   15   11   0.577
21   LL   10   8   0.556
22   OAC   14   12   0.538
23   SUNYAC   16   15   0.516
24   IIAC   12   12   0.500
25   CUNY   13   15   0.464
26   MACF   12   14   0.462
27   MWC   11   13   0.458
28   CSAC   11   13   0.458
29   CC   13   16   0.448
30   Sky   12   15   0.444
31   NATCH   15   19   0.441
32   SCAC   17   23   0.425
33   GNAC   11   16   0.407
34   GSAC   4   6   0.4
35   CCC   11   18   0.379
36   Independent   8   18   0.308
37   SLIAC   6   14   0.300
38   USAC   6   14   0.300
39   AMCC   6   20   0.231
40   NECC   6   20   0.231
41   SCIAC   2   7   0.222
42   UMAC   4   16   0.200
43   NAC   3   21   0.125
44   NEAC   3   24   0.111
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 24, 2011, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 24, 2011, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 24, 2011, 05:59:21 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 24, 2011, 01:33:29 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Games of 11/22:

Caltech  63,  Pacifica  (Other)  62   

No longer a newsworthy event. Ho-hum, just another Beaver victory.

Even more shocking when combined with last night's score:

Occidental     66      Pacifica     67     Final

But then, of course,
2/22 Caltech 46 Occidental 45

It all adds up!

Has someone talked OxyBob down?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: goldsoundz on November 24, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 24, 2011, 05:59:21 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 24, 2011, 01:33:29 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Games of 11/22:

Caltech  63,  Pacifica  (Other)  62   

No longer a newsworthy event. Ho-hum, just another Beaver victory.

Even more shocking when combined with last night's score:

Occidental     66      Pacifica     67     Final

Not really all that shocking.  Caltech had 6 or 7 conference games they could have won last year.  Just so happened they only won once and beat Occidental.  They're a deeper, more experienced team this year so I'd be surprised if they don't pick up multiple conference wins.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2011, 07:58:33 PM
Quote from: goldsoundz on November 24, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 24, 2011, 05:59:21 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on November 24, 2011, 01:33:29 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Games of 11/22:

Caltech  63,  Pacifica  (Other)  62   

No longer a newsworthy event. Ho-hum, just another Beaver victory.

Even more shocking when combined with last night's score:

Occidental     66      Pacifica     67     Final

Not really all that shocking.  Caltech had 6 or 7 conference games they could have won last year.  Just so happened they only won once and beat Occidental.  They're a deeper, more experienced team this year so I'd be surprised if they don't pick up multiple conference wins.

One sign of progress: in the 'winless' pool, Caltech used to be annually one of the first teams selected.  This year I doubt anyone even considered them. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2011, 03:37:15 AM
hopefan,
Any idea why Southern Va. 58  Southern Utah 75 was listed as a score on the Nov. 23rd scoreboard? Maybe Pat can tell us. I don't think either school is D3. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: augie_superfan on November 25, 2011, 09:01:41 AM
I believe Southern Va. is in an "exploratory" year for changing to DIII.  I'm assuming that is the reason most of their games are listed on the scoreboard, but please correct me if I'm wrong
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 25, 2011, 09:44:21 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2011, 03:37:15 AM
hopefan,
Any idea why Southern Va. 58  Southern Utah 75 was listed as a score on the Nov. 23rd scoreboard? Maybe Pat can tell us. I don't think either school is D3.

They've been on several times.. Augie may be right, but They aren't in my data base as D3 because they aren't listed as D3 under the D3hoops teams section
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: dahlby on November 25, 2011, 10:06:51 AM
Southern Virginia's web site lists the NAIA and USCAA logos.

Southern Utah's web site lists the Big Sky and Summitt League logos, which are D1 Conferences.

That is all I could find.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: augie_superfan on November 25, 2011, 10:13:12 AM
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Latest+News/2011/June/DIII+Membership+Committee+recommends+four+new+active+members (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Latest+News/2011/June/DIII+Membership+Committee+recommends+four+new+active+members)

This was the press release from earlier this year.  There are several teams that are exploring DIII this year although I only remember seeing Southen Va show up on the scoreboard.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 25, 2011, 11:01:42 AM
They shouldn't be on the scoreboard, and I believe I filtered them out.

We have access to Southern Virginia (and others, Fisher, Albany Pharmacy) in our database because they play a number of Division III schools and it's easier to make all of the Southern Virginia games non-region at the same time.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2011, 11:35:18 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 25, 2011, 11:01:42 AM
They shouldn't be on the scoreboard, and I believe I filtered them out.

We have access to Southern Virginia (and others, Fisher, Albany Pharmacy) in our database because they play a number of Division III schools and it's easier to make all of the Southern Virginia games non-region at the same time.

Well then, I guess I'm glad I brought it up. ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 25, 2011, 11:51:34 AM
Well, technically, I filtered them out the other day and just got here to read this morning but glad I was able to answer the question.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2011, 08:12:50 AM
Scores of 11/25

Hope  (67)  Aquinas,  NAIA-D2  65
Puget Sound  (88)  Evergreen St.,  NAIA-D2  76
Cornerstone  (NAIA-D2)  94,  Calvin  77
Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  83,  Linfield  63
Westminster (Utah)  (NAIA-D1)  81,  Lyndon State  46
Victory  (NCCAA)  82,  Spalding  72
Montana Tech  (NAIA-D1)  79,  Willamette  74

D3 W/L  vs

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   11
NCAA-D2   3   16
NAIA-D1   2   10
NAIA-D2   23   28
NCCAA   14   4
USCAA   46   14
Other   21   5

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2011, 08:30:49 AM
Results of 11/26

Adrian  80,  Concordia (Mi.)  (NAIA-D2)  78
DePauw  63,  Purdue-North Central  (NAIA-D2)  43
Grinnell  150,  William Penn  (NAIA-D2)  137
Hamilton  86,  Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  55
Hope  80,  Cornerstone  (NAIA-D2)  76
John Carroll  91,  Victory  (NCCAA)  65
Lewis and Clark  82,  Eastern Oregon  (NAIA-D2)  69
Muhlenberg  68,  Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  60
Pacific  75,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  44
St. Thomas  94,  Concordia-St. Paul  (NCAA-D2)  88
Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  69,  Calvin  63
Northwest Chrst.  (NAIA-D2)  69,  George Fox  57
Carroll Mt  (NAIA-D1)  103,  Lyndon State  58
Evergreen St.  (NAIA-D2)  79,  Pacific Lutheran  72
Jamestown  (NAIA-D2)  80,  Presentation  40
Graceland  (NAIA-D1)  97,  Simpson  86
Robert Morris-Lake County  (USCAA)  80,  Wartburg  57
Corban  (NAIA-D2)  105,  Willamette  69


W/L vs non D3     .....   we pick up a game vs NAIA D2

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   11
NCAA-D2   4   16
NAIA-D1   2   12
NAIA-D2   29   33
NCCAA   16   4
USCAA   47   15
Other   21   5
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2011, 11:28:59 PM
Games of 11/27

Edgewood  65,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  64
Elmhurst  66,  Purdue-North Central  (NAIA-D2)  56
McDaniel  64,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  45
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  78,  Gallaudet  71
Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  89,  SUNY-Cobleskill  73
Edinboro  (NCAA-D2)  95,  Thiel  75
Robert Morris  (NAIA-D1)  76,  UW-Stout  50

W/L for D3  now within 2 games of NAIA D2

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   11
NCAA-D2   4   17
NAIA-D1   2   14
NAIA-D2   31   33
NCCAA   16   5
USCAA   48   15
Other   21   5



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 03, 2011, 02:51:15 PM
In the Wendy's Classic this week in Rochester:

Brockport 79 - Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA D2) 68

St John Fisher 59 - Roberts Wesleyan 57

and one more game today

Roberts Wesleyan 72 - RIT 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OxyBob on December 05, 2011, 12:28:03 PM
Score from Saturday 12/3:

Claremont 71 The Master's College (NAIA I) 65

OxyBob
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2011, 01:15:47 PM
Sorry guys... fell behind due to illness and work.. may catch up tonight or tomorrow night....   hopefan
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OxyBob on December 06, 2011, 04:57:20 AM
Score from Monday 12/5:

Claremont 71, San Diego Christian (NAIA I) 69

OxyBob
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2011, 08:11:16 AM
update... my scores are up to date... just have to translate them to w-l and posts!!!!.... tonight!!!!   hopefan
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2011, 09:44:52 PM
11/28

Cazenovia  95,  SUNY-ESF  (Other)  62
Hood  78,  Penn St. Mont Alto  (USCAA)  56
Maine Maritime  52,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  50
Penn State-Harrisburg  105,  Penn State Schuylkill  (USCAA)  78
Rust  97,  Blue Mountain  (NAIA-D1)  88
Whittier  115,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA)  83
Waldorf  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Martin Luther  52
Lindenwood-Belleville  (USCAA)  83,  Principia  70
Columbia  (NCAA-D1)  104,  Swarthmore  42

11/29

Augustana  83,  St. Ambrose  (NAIA-D2)  75
Buffalo State  89,  Houghton  (NAIA-D2)  74
Colby  73,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  51
Morrisville State  91,  SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  83
Washington and Jefferson  66,  Notre Dame  (NCAA-D2)  65
Goucher  88,  Maryland Bible  (Other)  76
St. Francis (Ill.)  (NAIA-D1)  71,  Adrian  65
Olivet Nazarene  (NAIA-D1)  87,  Carthage  85
Minnesota Crookston  (NCAA-D2)  82,  Crown  47
Missouri Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  72,  Fontbonne  55
Portland  (NCAA-D1)  76,  Lewis and Clark  64
Mayville State  (NAIA-D2)  72,  Minnesota-Morris  71
West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA)  74,  Occidental  70
Bethel (Tenn.)  (NAIA-D1)  91,  Rust  72
Clarion  (NCAA-D2)  86,  Susquehanna  44
Winona State  (NCAA-D2)  82,  UW-Stout  54

11/30

Averett  103,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  81
Brockport State  79,  Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  68
Cal Lutheran  71,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  62
Dubuque  77,  Clarke  (NAIA-D2)  74
Penn State-Abington  90,  Penn State Delaware County  (USCAA)  74
Western Michigan  (NCAA-D1)  80,  Hope  58
Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  83,  Martin Luther  67
Briar Cliff (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  69,  Nebraska Wesleyan  62
Kutztown  (NCAA-D2)  95,  Penn State-Berks  66

12/1

Bard  87,  Albany Pharmacy  (Other)  57
Blackburn  80,  Concordia St. Louis  (Other)  71
Caltech  95,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA)  79
Concordia (Wis.)  103,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  51
Pomona-Pitzer  93,  American Sports  (Other)  54
Presentation  88,  Trinity Bible  (NCCAA)  80
Redlands  84,  Pacifica  (Other)  70
UC Santa Cruz  92,  Arizona Christian  (NAIA-D2)  86
Grace Bible  (NCCAA)  82,  Maranatha Baptist  61

12/2

Alfred  80,  SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  72
Colby  81,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  76
La Verne  90,  American Sports  (Other)  73
Maranatha Baptist  93,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA)  73
St. John Fisher  59,  Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  57
St. Joseph's (VT)  (USCAA)  97,  Southern Vermont  88
Mayville State  (NAIA-D2)  63,  Martin Luther  59
Crossroads  (Other)  96,  Bethany Lutheran  59

12/3

Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  71,  Master's  (NAIA-D1)  65
La Verne  82,  Arizona Christian  (NAIA-D2)  68
Piedmont  102,  Free Will Baptist  (NCCAA)  66
Presentation  75,  Nebraska Christian  (Other)  40
RPI  107,  St. Joseph's (VT)  (USCAA)  90
Vassar  79,  Sarah Lawrence  (Other)  13
Northwestern (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  77,  Nebraska Wesleyan  72
Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  72,  Rochester Tech  63

12/4

Colby  71,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  65
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  78,  Culinary Institute  (Other)  60

12/5

Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  71,  San Diego Christian  (NAIA-D1)  69
Linfield  100,  Multnomah  (NCCAA)  86
Oberlin  74,  Penn St.-New Kensington  (USCAA)  50
Occidental  98,  American Sports  (Other)  70
Ind.-East  (NAIA-D2)  79,  DePauw  66
Virginia Intermont  (NAIA-D2)  73,  Emory and Henry  68


Thru 12/5    D3 record vs:

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   14
NCAA-D2   5   21
NAIA-D1   5   18
NAIA-D2   43   42
NCCAA   22   7
USCAA   58   17
Other   32   6

WE CAUGHT NAIA D2!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 07, 2011, 10:26:21 PM
Snappy comments:

What would happen if Blue Mountain played Green Mountain? Teal Mountain?

Can you get salads at the concession stand at Waldorf?

You would think that a school called "American Sports" would be the #1 team in the nation. You know, since we're the USA and #1 and all that. It's an outrage that a school called "American Sports" can't even beat a mid-level SCIAC team. Shouldn't they be "Laotian Sports" or
"Maltese Sports" until they get better?

Does every town in PA have a Penn State Branch Campus?

When W&J beat Notre Dame, did they put that on 48 point type on their main page and not reveal it was the D2 program in Ohio until the game story? PRESIDENTS BEAT NOTRE DAME!

Does the pep band at Crossroads only play Robert Johnson songs?

544 people saw Columbia beat Swarthmore. I can't believe there wasn't a show or a gallery opening or something else that was happening on November 28th for those 544 folks! (I kid...I kid...though I'd still try to make the curtain at The Book of Mormon...)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 07, 2011, 10:39:23 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 07, 2011, 10:26:21 PM
Snappy comments:

What would happen if Blue Mountain played Green Mountain? Teal Mountain?  +1!

Can you get salads at the concession stand at Waldorf? +1!

You would think that a school called "American Sports" would be the #1 team in the nation. You know, since we're the USA and #1 and all that. It's an outrage that a school called "American Sports" can't even beat a mid-level SCIAC team. Shouldn't they be "Laotian Sports" or
"Maltese Sports" until they get better?

Does every town in PA have a Penn State Branch Campus? +1!

When W&J beat Notre Dame, did they put that on 48 point type on their main page and not reveal it was the D2 program in Ohio until the game story? PRESIDENTS BEAT NOTRE DAME!

Does the pep band at Crossroads only play Robert Johnson songs?  +3!

544 people saw Columbia beat Swarthmore. I can't believe there wasn't a show or a gallery opening or something else that was happening on November 28th for those 544 folks! (I kid...I kid...though I'd still try to make the curtain at The Book of Mormon...)

I am going to be applauding you for a week!  :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 08, 2011, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: smedindy on December 07, 2011, 10:26:21 PM
Does every town in PA have a Penn State Branch Campus?


I went to the Eastern University opening tournament in which Penn State-Abington was featured.  We were sitting in a gym in Pennsylvania with people who grew up and live in Pennsylvania and I could find no one able to even tell me where Abington is located within Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 08, 2011, 06:37:11 PM
Just north of Philly, near the intersection of Old York Rd. & Susquehanna.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 08, 2011, 08:56:20 PM

12/6

Blackburn  70,  Lindenwood-Belleville  (USCAA)  68
Clarkson  71,  St. Joseph's (VT)  (USCAA)  56
Colorado College  73,  Johnson & Wales (Colo.)  (NAIA-D2)  70
Greenville  95,  St. Louis Christian  (Other)  72
John Jay  84,  Vaughn  (Other)  37
King's  71,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  51
Sewanee  86,  Johnson Bible  (NCCAA)  42
Trine  68,  Purdue-North Central  (NAIA-D2)  56
Whitman  98,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  40
Ferris state  (NCAA-D2)  75,  Alma  62
Youngstown State  (NCAA-D1)  69,  Fredonia State  35
Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  63,  Maine-Presque Isle  57
The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  76,  Mary Washington  74
Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  82,  Pacific  63
Jamestown  (NAIA-D2)  86,  Presentation  40
Missouri Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  77,  Principia  48
St. Martin's  (NCAA-D2)  93,  Willamette  83
Cardinal Stritch  (NAIA-D2)  77,  Wisconsin Lutheran  71

12/7

Bates  74,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  65
Cal Lutheran  72,  Pacifica  (Other)  60
Eureka  78,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA)  73
La Verne  101,  American Sports  (Other)  67
Lewis and Clark  63,  Warner Pacific  (NAIA-D2)  50
Maryville (Tenn.)  81,  Bryan  (NAIA-D2)  68
Nebraska Wesleyan  56,  Hastings  (NAIA-D2)  53
Puget Sound  69,  Evergreen St.  (NAIA-D2)  59
University of Dallas  77,  Southwestern Adventist  (Other)  61
Valley City State  (NAIA-D2)  78,  Minnesota-Morris  54
Roberts Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  61,  Nazareth  59
Montana State  (NCAA-D1)  109,  Willamette  64

D3 W/L thru 12/7

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   16
NCAA-D2   5   23
NAIA-D1   5   19
NAIA-D2   51   47
NCCAA   24   7
USCAA   61   19
Other   37   6


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2011, 06:17:40 AM
one of the fans of this room asked for a review of the 5 wins over NCAA - D2   :

Edgewood                 NATHC   78   Lake Superior St.   NCAA-D2   77
Hiram                              NCAC   84   Notre Dame   NCAA-D2   73
North Carolina Wesleyan       USAC   82   St. Andrews   NCAA-D2   77
St. Thomas                   MIAC   94   Concordia-St. Paul   NCAA-D2   88
Washington and Jefferson   PrAC   66   Notre Dame   NCAA-D2   65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2011, 04:28:44 PM
Smed,
You gave me a whole weeks worth of laughs in 2 minutes. 8-) Plus K
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 09, 2011, 04:38:29 PM
Thanks, magicman!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 09, 2011, 07:05:09 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 07, 2011, 10:26:21 PM
Snappy comments:

What would happen if Blue Mountain played Green Mountain? Teal Mountain?

Chuckle #1!

Quote from: smedindy on December 07, 2011, 10:26:21 PMCan you get salads at the concession stand at Waldorf?

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wearysloth.com%2FGallery%2FActorsB%2F1708.gif&hash=ec0f25f236cbfbd9645f845201fbd5c6682d5cc9)

They'd better be available if this guy is in the stands.

Quote from: smedindy on December 07, 2011, 10:26:21 PMDoes every town in PA have a Penn State Branch Campus?

I love the fact that you capitalized "Branch Campus". I think that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania should open up yet another state school and just give it the generic name of PSU-Branch Campus.

Quote from: smedindy on December 07, 2011, 10:26:21 PMDoes the pep band at Crossroads only play Robert Johnson songs?

Chuckle #2!

(At North Park we play the Blues Brothers' version of "Sweet Home Chicago" after every NPU win, regardless of sport. I've now noticed that Concordia (IL), which is located in suburban River Forest, does the same thing. I feel like going up to one of the Concordia athletic department people and asking, "Why don't you play a song about River Forest when the Cougars win?"
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2011, 03:24:09 PM
Games of 12/8

Brooklyn  87,  Vaughn  (Other)  56
St. Joseph's (VT)  (USCAA)  76,  Johnson State  67
Eastern Washington  (NCAA-D1)  104,  Linfield  54
Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  67,  Maine-Presque Isle  52
Biola  (NAIA-D1)  69,  Pomona-Pitzer  65

Games of 12/9

Bridgewater (Va.)  79,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  70
Greenville  96,  Logan Chiropractic  (Other)  71
Hope  76,  Marian (Ind.)  (NAIA-D2)  60
Juniata  71,  Penn St. Mont Alto  (USCAA)  55
Minnesota-Morris  84,  Mayville State  (NAIA-D2)  51
Rowan  89,  Penn State Delaware County  (USCAA)  64
Widener  95,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (USCAA)  82
Bluefield  (NAIA-D2)  92,  Eastern Mennonite  61
Missouri Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  93,  Fontbonne  81
Corban  (NAIA-D2)  67,  George Fox  56
Southern  (NCAA-D1)  66,  MacMurray  57


D3 record thru 12/9

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   18
NCAA-D2   5   23
NAIA-D1   5   21
NAIA-D2   53   49
NCCAA   24   7
USCAA   66   21
Other   39   6


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 11, 2011, 11:32:49 AM
Games of 12/10      tough day for D3 as we go 12-19

Birmingham-Southern  92,  Point  (NCCAA)  80
Buena Vista  82,  Northwestern (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  69
Calvin  83,  Trinity Christian  (NAIA-D2)  63
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  65,  Point Loma Nazarene  (NAIA-D1)  49
DeSales  73,  Penn St.- Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  61
Eastern Mennonite  91,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  51
Fontbonne  100,  Logan Chiropractic  (Other)  99
Hope  101,  Mount Vernon Nazarene  (NAIA-D2)  67
New Jersey City  77,  Penn St. Mont Alto  (USCAA)  48
UC Santa Cruz  83,  Menlo  (NAIA-D2)  73
Western New England  68,  Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  60
Willamette  64,  Northwest Chrst.  (NAIA-D2)  63
High Point  (NCAA-D1)  89,  Averett  53
Bluefield  (NAIA-D2)  103,  Bridgewater (Va.)  65
Sioux Falls  (NCAA-D2)  77,  Crown  33
Concordia (Ore.)  (NAIA-D2)  83,  George Fox  68
Missouri Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  79,  Greenville  74
Hiwassee  (USCAA)  89,  Huntingdon  85
Warner Pacific  (NAIA-D2)  79,  Linfield  60
Tulane  (NCAA-D1)  89,  MacMurray  59
Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  80,  Maine-Presque Isle  58
SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  79,  Massachusetts College  73
Campbell  (NCAA-D1)  103,  Methodist  55
Dordt  (NAIA-D2)  72,  Nebraska Wesleyan  48
Spring Arbor  (NAIA-D2)  79,  Olivet  78
Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  48,  Pacific Lutheran  46
Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA)  92,  Piedmont  75
Harris-Stowe  (NAIA-D1)  61,  Principia  51
Indiana Southeast  (NAIA-D2)  81,  Spalding  70
Malone  (NCAA-D2)  84,  Waynesburg  60
Montana Tech  (NAIA-D1)  83,  Whitworth  73

D3 record

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   21
NCAA-D2   5   25
NAIA-D1   6   24
NAIA-D2   58   56
NCCAA   25   8
USCAA   70   24
Other   40   6

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 11, 2011, 11:57:20 AM
QuoteBirmingham-Southern  92,  Point  (NCCAA)  80

Point, coached by James Kilpatrick will face Counter-Point next, helmed by Shana Alexander.

/showing my age
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 11, 2011, 12:09:33 PM
I actually thought 'Point' was a D3hoops misprint until I looked it up and found that Point is the newly renamed Atlanta Christian University....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 11, 2011, 12:46:55 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 11, 2011, 11:57:20 AM
QuoteBirmingham-Southern  92,  Point  (NCCAA)  80

Point, coached by James Kilpatrick will face Counter-Point next, helmed by Shana Alexander.

/showing my age

"Jane, you ignorant slut...."

sorry
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 11, 2011, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 11, 2011, 11:57:20 AM
Point, coached by James Kilpatrick will face Counter-Point next, helmed by Shana Alexander.

/showing my age

Most readers may be too young for the old 60 Minutes segment, but nobody is ever too old for Airplane! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn0WdJx-Wkw)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: stag44 on December 12, 2011, 03:26:10 PM
Great run by Claremont-Mudd-Scripps over the last week, going 3-0 vs NAIA-D1 schools all from the GSAC (The Masters, San Diego Christian, and Point Loma)

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 12, 2011, 03:33:31 PM
Do The Masters wear green uniforms with some sort of insignia patch? And do their announcers speak in earnest whispers and have correspondents cover the various places on the court? "Let's move to Verne Lundquist on the home free throw line." "Johnson with a free throw, to go up one...and it's.....GOOD! It's IN the hole!"

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2011, 04:21:20 PM
outstanding  smed.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 12, 2011, 04:38:12 PM
Can throw a couple more USCAA ones at you guys
Virginia University Lynchburg
Cooper Union

I enjoy perusing to see how the USCAA teams fare with D3 (yeah normally not well, but worth some looking) and saw those listed as others.

If you need a list of the USCAA members - message me and I can provide a list of schools.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 12, 2011, 04:39:58 PM
Rochester (Mich) is a dual member -- first year NAIA and charter USCAA member. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2011, 06:14:23 AM
Quote from: nnasid on December 12, 2011, 04:38:12 PM
Can throw a couple more USCAA ones at you guys
Virginia University Lynchburg
Cooper Union

I enjoy perusing to see how the USCAA teams fare with D3 (yeah normally not well, but worth some looking) and saw those listed as others.

If you need a list of the USCAA members - message me and I can provide a list of schools.

thanks nnasid... I've changed Cooper Union and VU Lynchburg  to USCAA and new W/L will reflect that
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2011, 07:00:36 AM
games of 12/11, 12/12

George Fox  79,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA)  71
Elon  (NCAA-D1)  109,  Lynchburg  67
Lehigh  (NCAA-D1)  95,  Arcadia  55
New Jersey Tech  (NCAA-D1)  78,  St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  50


D3 record vs:

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   24
NCAA-D2   5   25
NAIA-D1   6   24
NAIA-D2   58   56
NCCAA   26   8
USCAA   71   25
Other   39   5

For anyone following the nearly even matchup of D3 with NAIA D2, there are approximately 50 scheduled games remaining between the 2, with a handful of others to be played in Holiday tourneys....   one disadvantage for D3 is that D3 Nebraska Wesleyan will be playing a full conference schedule amongst those games.. tough league, Nebraska Wesleyan will be an underdog im many of those games....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on December 14, 2011, 08:31:37 AM
Tough that Nebraska Wesleyan plays as the only non-scholarship team in a scholarship league. Anyone know why they continually choose to be the only D3 around?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2011, 09:01:49 AM
Slaps... I'm not certain, but likely it's the geography, and perhaps a bit of loyalty to their conference and rivalries...  the Sliac wouldn't be practical, probably some long trips too with the Iowa and Minnesota conferences, or the MWC....Perhaps Sager or one of the other 'vets' can chime in...

I've seen Nebraska Wesleyan play in St Louis, and it's a team anyone would want in their conference... solid kids, good basketball, active coaches, and a fan base of 30 or 40 that came all the way down to St Louis....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 14, 2011, 09:11:42 AM
They are truly an island. I thought there was some rumblings about a few others in that league jumping to D-3 but I've heard nothing else.

I know I've heard that those schools don't think they can compete for student-athletes without offering scholarships.

But IMHO, in the words of Col. Potter

HORSEHOCKEY!

If your product is good enough, you don't need the athletics scholarships at that level.

/RIP, Harry Morgan
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 14, 2011, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 12, 2011, 03:33:31 PM
Do The Masters wear green uniforms with some sort of insignia patch? And do their announcers speak in earnest whispers and have correspondents cover the various places on the court? "Let's move to Verne Lundquist on the home free throw line." "Johnson with a free throw, to go up one...and it's.....GOOD! It's IN the hole!"
Well then, are the places beyond the 3-point arc considered "the first cut"?

;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 14, 2011, 08:11:13 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 14, 2011, 08:31:37 AM
Tough that Nebraska Wesleyan plays as the only non-scholarship team in a scholarship league. Anyone know why they continually choose to be the only D3 around?

Probably a part of it is tradition. NebWes has been a D3 school since the advent of the division back in the mid-Seventies, and it was highly successful in men's basketball as an independent for many years, first under Jerry Schmutte and then under his acolyte, Todd Raridon, who is now the head coach at North Central (IL). The Prairie Wolves (who were then called the Plainsmen) went to the D3 Final Four in '85, '86, '88, and '97.

I think that the other part of it is probably a recruiting cachet thing. Deserved or not, NCAA D3 schools have a better academic reputation than NAIA schools, probably because: a) some of the most esteemed institutions of higher learning in the U.S. are D3 schools, which is something that the NAIA can't claim; and b) the no-scholarships rule connotes an ethos of purity and integrity for D3 that the NAIA just doesn't have, even though the fine print concerning financial aid frequently wipes out the differences between schools from the two divisions.

(Actually, if you really want to get the reasons directly from the horse's mouth, ask CCIW Chat regular AndOne. He's an NWU alumnus and a former Plainsman basketball player. He may have access to reasons that are more specific than the ones I offer here.)

The success of the school's teams over the years indicates that the lack of scholarships need not be an impediment for NebWes. Last year NWU finished second in the all-sports standings of the twelve-school Great Plains Athletic Conference. (http://www.gpacsports.com/f/All-Time_Champions_2010-11.php) NWU has won the all-sports title of the GPAC five times in the last eleven years, and it's never finished lower than fourth.

NebWes is a dual member of D3 and the NAIA. Every autumn I wonder if this'll be the year that NWU knuckles under and joins its Great Plains Athletic Conference peers by declaring for the NAIA tourney rather than the D3 tourney, but it never happens.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2011, 08:28:45 PM
Games of 12/13

Ashford  (NAIA-D2)  78,  Cornell  68
UT-Chattanooga  (NCAA-D1)  98,  Spalding  48


     W   L
NCAA-D1   0   25
NCAA-D2   5   25
NAIA-D1   6   24
NAIA-D2   58   57
NCCAA   26   8
USCAA   71   25
Other   39   5
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2011, 07:55:39 PM
Games of 12/14

Eureka  96,  Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  90
Averett  (80)  Virginia-Lynchburg,  USCAA  67
West Georgia  (NCAA-D2)  91,  Berry  55
Rice  (NCAA-D1)  109,  Louisiana College  51
Ohio University  (NCAA-D1)  88,  Marietta  54
Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  62,  St. Mary's (Minn.)  58
UC Riverside  (NCAA-D1)  91,  UC Santa Cruz  60


Win-loss

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   28
NCAA-D2   5   26
NAIA-D1   6   24
NAIA-D2   58   58
NCCAA   26   8
USCAA   73   25
Other   39   5
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 15, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
I see we have entered the "D-1 beatdown of D-3 teams" portion of our schedule. Wow, from really good D-3 teams (Marietta) to mediocre-at-best (Spalding, who got nothing and liked it) it just wasn't a good day to be a D-3 against a D-1.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2011, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 15, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
I see we have entered the "D-1 beatdown of D-3 teams" portion of our schedule. Wow, from really good D-3 teams (Marietta) to mediocre-at-best (Spalding, who got nothing and liked it) it just wasn't a good day to be a D-3 against a D-1.

Yes.. our performance vs D1 is not impressive.... we are losing those 28 games by an average of 38 points per game

only 2 losses by single digits
UC Santa Cruz 78,  UC Davis 84
MacMurray 57, Southern  66

obviously numerous BAD losses...... the worst:
Lyndon St 37, Yale 101.... 64 point loss
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
Wentworth currently playing D1 Texas-Pan American. The Leopards hung with the Broncs for half of the first period only down 17-16 with 10:11 left. But the Broncs ended the half on an 11-2 run to go up 40-24 at the break . The Broncs now lead 53-30 with 15:26 to play.

Oswego State plays the Broncs on January 3rd. I think, as Knightslappy, (I believe) said earlier, that the Lakers may make a game of it against the Texas Boys. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2011, 09:47:54 PM
Wentworth falls to Texas-Pan American 65-48. We go to 0-29.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 15, 2011, 10:16:52 PM
Quote from: nnasid on December 12, 2011, 04:39:58 PM
Rochester (Mich) is a dual member -- first year NAIA and charter USCAA member.

Rochester is in the middle of an absolutely brutal stretch of games for any small college team.

Tennessee-Martin(D1), Eastern Michigan(D1), Huntington(NAIA II), Grand Valley State(D2), Oakland(D1) so far, all on the road, all losses.  They play at Austin Peay(D1) on Saturday.

http://www.rochestercollegewarriors.com/schedule/0/1.php
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 15, 2011, 11:36:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 15, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
Wentworth currently playing D1 Texas-Pan American. The Leopards hung with the Broncs for half of the first period only down 17-16 with 10:11 left. But the Broncs ended the half on an 11-2 run to go up 40-24 at the break . The Broncs now lead 53-30 with 15:26 to play.

Oswego State plays the Broncs on January 3rd. I think, as Knightslappy, (I believe) said earlier, that the Lakers may make a game of it against the Texas Boys.

I don't know if I mentioned this before... but Nick Bennett (UWSP '05) is an assistant at UTPA.  I saw them play Northwestern earlier this season.  They play really good defense but don't have a whole lot of offense.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 16, 2011, 09:15:01 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 15, 2011, 09:47:54 PM
Wentworth falls to Texas-Pan American 65-48. We go to 0-29.

This is a pretty amazing score.  Wentworth has not been playing great ball this year at all - and with the current set up, they have to hit threes to even be close.  Does UTPA play any other d3s?  This could be a victory for us given the right matchup.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 16, 2011, 09:26:36 AM
I think someone mentioned they play Oswego State. Now that's a roadie!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2011, 08:58:41 PM
Games of 12/15

Pacific  63,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  61
Berkeley (N.J.)  (USCAA)  64,  Rutgers-Camden  62
Texas Pan American  (NCAA-D1)  65,  Wentworth  48
William and Mary  (NCAA-D1)  70,  Wesley  47
Ohio University Eastern  (Other)  57,  Franciscan (Ohio)  52

games of 12/16

Pomona-Pitzer  110,  American Sports  (Other)  54
Marian (Ind.)  (NAIA-D2)  83,  Kalamazoo  74
Great Falls  (NAIA-D1)  86,  Lewis and Clark  73
Coastal Carolina  (NCAA-D1)  86,  Lynchburg  61
Eastern Washington  (NCAA-D1)  83,  Pacific Lutheran  72

Games of 12/17

Alma  103,  Indiana-Northwest  (NAIA-D2)  95
Averett  81,  Montreat  (NAIA-D2)  65
Carthage  79,  Cardinal Stritch  (NAIA-D2)  76
Greensboro  111,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  71
Kalamazoo  84,  Judson  (NAIA-D2)  83
Lakeland  87,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  59
Nebraska Wesleyan  69,  Mount Marty  (NAIA-D2)  43
Puget Sound  79,  New Hope Christian  (NCCAA)  57
Grand View  (NAIA-D2)  74,  Simpson  73
Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  80,  Johnson and Wales  75
Cal State Fullerton  (NCAA-D1)  86,  La Verne  44
Lewis-Clark State  (NAIA-D1)  73,  Lewis and Clark  58
Concordia (Ore.)  (NAIA-D2)  76,  Linfield  48
Ashford  (NAIA-D2)  84,  Loras  62
St. Francis (Ill.)  (NAIA-D1)  78,  Rockford  75
Standings thru 12/17

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   33
NCAA-D2   5   26
NAIA-D1   6   27
NAIA-D2   64   62
NCCAA   27   8
USCAA   77   27
Other   40   6

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2011, 09:19:04 PM

D3 vs non  conference D3

1   NWC               13   3   0.813
2   WIAC               39   10   0.796
3   NESCAC               63   20   0.759
4   LEC               43   14   0.754
5   Newmac               50   18   0.735
6   UAA               51   21   0.708
7   ODAC               37   16   0.698
8   ASC               13   6   0.684
9   MACC               31   17   0.646
10   NJAC               43   28   0.606
11   NCAC               29   21   0.580
12   MWC               19   14   0.575757576
13   CAC               23   17   0.575
14   IIAC               25   19   0.568
15   PrAC               26   20   0.565
16   MIAA               22   17   0.564
17   CCIW               36   28   0.563
18   LL               29   24   0.547
19   E8               35   30   0.538
20   CSAC               20   18   0.526
21   Landmark            31   28   0.525
22   OAC               21   20   0.512
23   SUNYAC               25   24   0.510
24   HCAC               26   25   0.510
25   MIAC               22   22   0.500
26   Mascac               29   32   0.475
27   CC               18   20   0.474
28   CUNY               31   37   0.456
29   SCAC               29   35   0.453
30   MACF               21   26   0.447
31   SCIAC               13   17   0.433
32   Sky               22   29   0.431
33   Independent            28   38   0.424
34   USAC               20   29   0.408
35   CCC               15   30   0.333
36   NECC               18   38   0.321
37   NATCH               17   37   0.315
38   GNAC               18   43   0.295
39   GSAC               10   26   0.278
40   AMCC               11   30   0.268
41   SLIAC               10   30   0.250
42   UMAC               10   39   0.204
43   NAC               5   33   0.132
44   NEAC               8   56   0.125
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on December 19, 2011, 01:45:09 PM
Keene state (LEC) is playing Nova Southeastern out of NCAA division 2 this afternoon at 3:00 PM.  I'll have updates of the game over on the LEC board.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 19, 2011, 01:56:13 PM
You know if Ashford ever played Simpson (which really they could being from Iowa and all), I wonder how many song puns I could work into a recap...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2011, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 16, 2011, 09:26:36 AM
I think someone mentioned they play Oswego State. Now that's a roadie!

That someone was me and the game between Oswego and Texas-Pan American is on January 3rd. Hope the Lakers come to play and don't get caught up with enjoying the warm weather. It gets pretty nasty in Oswego, with the wind and snow whipping in off Lake Ontario this time of year. I remember one year back in the 60's when I visited Oswego in January. Blizzard conditions with 50+ mph winds. Had a borrowed Cadillac Coupe de Ville. Parked the car in front of their dorms, opened the door and the wind just about tore it off it's hinges. Sprung the hell out of it and had to pay a small fortune to get it fixed before returning it to the owner. Ah, the good old days. :)

The Lakers may be our best chance to steal one from the DI boys. The Texas team isn't any bigger than the Lakers so hopefully Oswego bigs, 6'7" D3 All American Chad Burridge and teammate 6'6" Hayden Ward can match up with TPA bigs. The Broncos start 3 guards that go 6'3", 6'3", and 6'1". Their starting bigs are 6'7" and 6'5". They do have a 6'9" bench player who played 11 minutes against Wentwoth and scored 6 pts with 4 boards. They are a guard oriented team with only 2 players averaging double figures, (14.8  12.6) both guards.  Oswego bigs average 20.0 (Burridge) and 15.6 (Hayden)  I think the Lakers will at the very least keep this one competitive.   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Just Bill on December 19, 2011, 03:51:46 PM
Why is Texas-Pan American playing a sampler platter of D-III teams this year? Are they trying to trick their fans into thinking these are D-I teams they are playing?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 19, 2011, 04:00:31 PM
QuoteYou know if Ashford ever played Simpson (which really they could being from Iowa and all), I wonder how many song puns I could work into a recap...

I don't know but that match up would be solid. Solid as a rock.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 19, 2011, 04:16:00 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on December 19, 2011, 03:51:46 PM
Why is Texas-Pan American playing a sampler platter of D-III teams this year? Are they trying to trick their fans into thinking these are D-I teams they are playing?

UTPA has always been an 'island' - unwanted by conferences because of past reputation and distance and they really can't get people to play there. They're now in the "Great West" - the island of misfit D-1 toys.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 19, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on December 19, 2011, 04:00:31 PM
QuoteYou know if Ashford ever played Simpson (which really they could being from Iowa and all), I wonder how many song puns I could work into a recap...

I don't know but that match up would be solid. Solid as a rock.

Golf clap, sir, golf clap...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 19, 2011, 04:36:03 PM
QuoteThey're now in the "Great West" - the island of misfit D-1 toys.

A squirt gun that shoots jelly would make a fine mascot.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on December 19, 2011, 05:11:13 PM
Keene state falls to Nova Southeastern 86-67.
LEC goes to 43-15 against non conference opponents (according to the stats posted by Hopefan), but their 74.1% winning percentage is still good enough for 4th.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 19, 2011, 05:13:45 PM
I think that's D3 vs. D3, so this loss wouldn't affect that percentage.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2011, 05:37:24 PM
Games of 12/18

Montclair State  79,  Vaughn  (Other)  40
St. Vincent  (74)  Penn St.-Fayette,  USCAA  55
West Georgia  (NCAA-D2)  61,  Methodist  59

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   33
NCAA-D2   5   27
NAIA-D1   6   27
NAIA-D2   64   62
NCCAA   27   8
USCAA   78   27
Other   41   6

Smed... correct on your helpful response to 7express   thanks
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2011, 05:18:04 AM
DI Northern Iowa buries Loras 84-48 on Monday night. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: BoBo on December 20, 2011, 06:27:49 AM
Quote from: smedindy on December 19, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on December 19, 2011, 04:00:31 PM
QuoteYou know if Ashford ever played Simpson (which really they could being from Iowa and all), I wonder how many song puns I could work into a recap...

I don't know but that match up would be solid. Solid as a rock.

Golf clap, sir, golf clap...

Hey smedindy, did you know Ashford and Simpson have a DIII connection?

I believe the oldest of their two daughters, Nicole (daddy Nickolas, imagine that?) graduated from Wesleyan University (CT), in the mid-'90's. I have a niece who attended Wesleysan at the same time.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 20, 2011, 09:06:41 AM
I...I did not know that....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 22, 2011, 07:03:14 PM
Games of 12/19

East Texas Baptist  112,  Crowley's Ridge  (NCCAA)  67
Pacific  81,  New Hope Christian  (NCCAA)  71
UW-Oshkosh  75,  Ashford  (NAIA-D2)  64
Taylor  (NAIA-D2)  71,  Bridgewater (Va.)  50
Concordia (California)  (NAIA-D1)  94,  Concordia (Ill.)  72
Ashford  (NAIA-D2)  80,  Dubuque  71
Texas Permian Basin  (NCAA-D2)  66,  Sul Ross State  41
Southeastern  (NAIA-D2)  95,  Lawrence  65
Northern Iowa  (NCAA-D1)  84,  Loras  48
St. Martin's  (NCAA-D2)  69,  Pacific Lutheran  52

Games of 12/20

Midland  (NAIA-D2)  61,  Nebraska Wesleyan  38
Taylor  (NAIA-D2)  70,  Nichols  53
Alcorn  (NCAA-D1)  84,  Rust  53

Games of 12/21

Averett  101,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  79

prior score not reported
Merchant Marine 63   Vaughn (other)  38

D3 record through 12/21   and we're in trouble vs NAIA D2

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   35
NCAA-D2   5   30
NAIA-D1   6   28
NAIA-D2   64   68
NCCAA   29   8
USCAA   79   27
Other   42   6

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 23, 2011, 07:47:55 AM
game of Dec 22

Adrian  76,  Marygrove  (NAIA-D2)  62

D3 record through 12/22   one for the good guys vs NAIA D2

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   35
NCAA-D2   5   30
NAIA-D1   6   28
NAIA-D2   65   68
NCCAA   29   8
USCAA   79   27
Other   42   6
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 28, 2011, 06:44:03 AM
game of Dec 27

Western
Illinois  (NCAA-D1)  73,  Eureka  52 

D3 record through 12/27   
            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   36
NCAA-D2   5   30
NAIA-D1   6   28
NAIA-D2   65   68
NCCAA   29   8
USCAA   79   27
Other   42   6
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 29, 2011, 04:24:39 AM
games of Dec 28

Northwest Christian  (NAIA-D2) 83,  Linfield   78  (OT)
Thomas More  78,   UC Clermont  (USCAA)  70

D3 record through 12/28     tough one in our battle vs NAIA D2

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   36
NCAA-D2   5   30
NAIA-D1   6   28
NAIA-D2   65   69
NCCAA   29   8
USCAA   80   27
Other   42   6
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on December 30, 2011, 10:15:50 PM
We get one back

Hope 70, Indiana Wesleyan (NAIA-D2) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 02, 2012, 05:40:35 PM
Games of 12/29

Albright  84,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (USCAA)  61
Bluffton  94,  OSU Lima  (Other)  54
Ohio Northern  73,  UC Clermont  (USCAA)  63
Staten Island  104,  Vaughn  (Other)  51
UW-Eau Claire  81,  Judson  (NAIA-D2)  64
Whittier  124,  American Sports  (Other)  47
Embry-Riddle  (NAIA-D2)  72,  Bridgewater State  53
Northern Michigan  (NCAA-D2)  88,  Finlandia  64
Vanguard  (NAIA-D1)  76,  Gordon  67
Belhaven  (NAIA-D1)  84,  Rust  54
Marian (Ind.)  (NAIA-D2)  68,  Olivet  62
New Hope Christian  (NCCAA)  66,  Pacific  38
Wayland Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  86,  Texas Lutheran  82
Cal Maritime  (NAIA-D2)  69,  UC Santa Cruz  61


Games of 12/30

Bethany  84,  Vaughn  (Other)  38
Coe  80,  Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  69
Hope  70,  Indiana Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  66
Marietta  95,  Grace Bible  (NCCAA)  79
McMurry  85,  Northern New Mexico  (USCAA)  82
Medgar Evers  93,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (USCAA)  54
Muskingum  94,  Ohio State Lima  (Other)  66
Rockford  70,  Culver-Stockton  (NAIA-D1)  52
UC Santa Cruz  87,  American Sports  (Other)  54
Whittier  81,  Cal Maritime  (NAIA-D2)  75
Wittenberg  70,  Marian (Ind.)  (NAIA-D2)  50
Judson  (NAIA-D2)  72,  Bethany Lutheran  68
Ind.-East  (NAIA-D2)  76,  Dubuque  74
Northwestern (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  82,  Gordon  61
Embry-Riddle  (NAIA-D2)  85,  Mary Washington  75
Maryville (Mo.)  (NCAA-D2)  53,  Millikin  42
Belhaven  (NAIA-D1)  76,  Mississippi College  57
Cal State Bakersfield  (NCAA-D1)  75,  Pomona-Pitzer  41
San Diego State  (NCAA-D1)  94,  Redlands  43
Stephen F. Austin  (NCAA-D1)  93,  Texas-Tyler  36

games of 12/31

Emory and Henry  70,  Maryland Bible  (Other)  58
Lewis and Clark  84,  Lewis-Clark State  (NAIA-D1)  80
Rust  75,  West Alabama  (NCAA-D2)  74
Sioux Falls  (NCAA-D2)  71,  UW-River Falls  68


D3 record thru games of 1/1/12       Note   Rust gets a win vs NCAA D2 W Alabama

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   39
NCAA-D2   6   33
NAIA-D1   8   32
NAIA-D2   70   76
NCCAA   30   9
USCAA   86   28
Other   49   6



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 02, 2012, 05:51:58 PM
Only 36 games left vs NAIA-D2....  and we're down 6 games...   need to go 21-15....  need great efforts by Nebraska Wesleyan, Chapman, and UC-Santa Cruz  who play well over half of those games..... it doesn't look good.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 02, 2012, 05:57:20 PM
and as a bonus  records vs non conference D3

WIAC               53   16   0.768
LEC               48   17   0.738
NESCAC               72   28   0.720
UAA               59   23   0.720
Newmac               54   23   0.701
ASC               20   9   0.690
ODAC               50   23   0.685
MACC               40   19   0.678
NWC               22   11   0.667
NCAC               46   27   0.630
NJAC               54   34   0.614
IIAC               36   23   0.610
CCIW               48   35   0.578
LL               32   24   0.571
HCAC               38   31   0.551
E8               39   33   0.542
CAC               31   27   0.534
MWC               24   21   0.533
Landmark            36   34   0.514
CSAC               24   23   0.511
MIAA               28   28   0.500
SUNYAC               27   27   0.500
MIAC               26   26   0.500
OAC               27   28   0.491
MACF               28   31   0.475
Mascac               34   38   0.472222222
CC               25   28   0.472
PrAC               30   35   0.462
SCAC               39   47   0.453
CUNY               37   45   0.451
USAC               28   36   0.438
Independent            33   47   0.413
SCIAC               18   26   0.409
Sky               23   35   0.397
NATCH               23   47   0.329
CCC               17   35   0.327
NECC               19   40   0.322
GNAC               19   45   0.297
SLIAC               13   35   0.271
AMCC               14   39   0.264
GSAC               12   34   0.261
UMAC               11   44   0.200
NEAC               11   61   0.153
NAC               5   35   0.125
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 02, 2012, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 02, 2012, 05:51:58 PM
Only 36 games left vs NAIA-D2....  and we're down 6 games...   need to go 21-15....  need great efforts by Nebraska Wesleyan, Chapman, and UC-Santa Cruz  who play well over half of those games..... it doesn't look good.....
You may need to back out Neb Wesleyan from those games. It is not fair to D-3 to have that single school, which has only played 5 D-III schools (going 4-1 in the process).  They are 2-5 against non-D3 foes.  There are half of the losses in the negative margin, right there.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 02, 2012, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 02, 2012, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 02, 2012, 05:51:58 PM
Only 36 games left vs NAIA-D2....  and we're down 6 games...   need to go 21-15....  need great efforts by Nebraska Wesleyan, Chapman, and UC-Santa Cruz  who play well over half of those games..... it doesn't look good.....
You may need to back out Neb Wesleyan from those games. It is not fair to D-3 to have that single school, which has only played 5 D-III schools (going 4-1 in the process).  They are 2-5 against non-D3 foes.  There are half of the losses in the negative margin, right there.

I totally agree.  (If this were 1997 Neb Wes, I might beg to differ! ;D)

A school playing vastly more NAIA opponents than d3 opponents is not a viable rep for d3.

May I suggest that d3 teams to be counted in this compilation must play 50+% of their games against d3 opponents?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on January 03, 2012, 12:16:24 AM
Mass-Dartmouth plays 2 NAIA schools this week: Northwood Tuesday and Warner Wednesday.  Hopefully they can improve that record by 2.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 03, 2012, 04:47:46 AM
Sorry guys, if they're D3 on this site, they're D3 in my numbers....

Goodness, next thing you know, you'll be demanding UMPI be removed too!!!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 03, 2012, 11:12:35 AM
Let's not be pundits and cherry-pick our stats to make us look good. They are what they are.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 10:17:05 PM
Oswego State with a valiant effort almost pulls off the upset of D-I Texas-Pan American. as they lose 59-54. Key moment was a charging foul called on Laker's Chris Gilkes on a made basket that was waved off with 3:44 to go. Lakers were down 2 at the time 55-53 and his bucket would have tied the game and a free throw would have given the Lakers the lead. It was a very questionable call to say the least. Changed the complexion of the game for sure. Laker's Haydan Ward led all scorers with 18 points, 16 of them coming in the 2nd half. Oswego was down by 10 at the break 33-23 but opened the 2nd period with a 10-2 run to get back into the game. Nearly the entire 2nd half was a 1 or 2 possession game. At the 10:00 minute mark the Broncos opened up the largest lead of the 2nd half at 47-40 but the Lakers didn't fold and came right back to tie it up at 51 with 5 minutes to play. Twice in the  final 1:46 Oswego had a chance to take the lead as they were down 55-54. The last time came with 41 seconds to play as they missed a three point attempt. Lakers fouled and after the Broncos hit both free throws to make it a 3 point game Oswego came down with a chance to tie and 38 seconds on the clock. Laker guard was called for a traveling violation and that led to another foul and the final points of the game. The boys from Oswego didn't win but they hung with the Broncos the whole game. This Bronco team, by the way, nearly upset St. John's two weeks ago in NYC. They gave the Big East team all it could handle losing in the final seconds 66-61. The game was 62-61 with 36 seconds to go. So yeah they aren't a great D-1 team but they could probably do alright against a number of mid-majors.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 07, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
Games of Jan 2

Albright  80,  Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  69
William Jessup  (NAIA-D2)  54,  UC Santa Cruz  47

Games of Jan 3

Occidental  84,  Pacifica  (Other)  65
SUNY-Old Westbury  94,  Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  72
Susquehanna  91,  Thaddeus Stevens  (Other)  57
Texas Pan American  (NCAA-D1)  59,  Oswego State  54
Cal St. San Marcos  (NAIA-D1)  51,  Pomona-Pitzer  46
Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  83,  DeSales  77
Northwood (Fla.)  (NAIA-D2)  96,  Mass-Dartmouth  72

Games of Jan 4

Alvernia  68,  Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  64
Centre  91,  Berea  (NAIA-D2)  64
Lake Forest  76,  St. Francis (Ill.)  (NAIA-D1)  51
Massachusetts College  67,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  55
Redlands  97,  American Sports  (Other)  69
Whittier  113,  Pacifica  (Other)  97
Buffalo   (NCAA-D1)  111,  Buffalo State  59
Warner  (NAIA-D2)  79,  Mass-Dartmouth  62
Valley City State  (NAIA-D2)  87,  Minnesota-Morris  53
Morningside  (NAIA-D2)  78,  Nebraska Wesleyan  70

Games of Jan 5

Wilkes  100,  Penn College  (USCAA)  61
Greenville  117,  Concordia St. Louis  (Other)  71
Houghton  (NAIA-D2)  73,  Maine-Presque Isle  49
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  66,  Baptist Bible  43
Sioux Falls  (NCAA-D2)  101,  Minnesota-Morris  57
Penn State Delaware County  (USCAA)  68,  Philadelphia Bible  59
Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA)  84,  Piedmont  83

Games of Jan 6

Oberlin  78,  Ohio University-Zanesville  (Other)  30
Kuyper  (NCCAA)  68,  Maranatha Baptist  65

D3 Record thru Jan 6     pretty much dead ducks in the race vs NAIA D2

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   41
NCAA-D2   6   34
NAIA-D1   9   33
NAIA-D2   72   82
NCCAA   32   12
USCAA   88   30
Other   55   6
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on January 08, 2012, 12:03:40 PM
Is this the first year DIII has had a losing record against NAIA DII?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 08, 2012, 12:41:47 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on January 08, 2012, 12:03:40 PM
Is this the first year DIII has had a losing record against NAIA DII?

I went back as far as our current pages track....  most per HOF'r Rhodes Scholar, some help from yours truly

D3 record vs NAIA D2

2011 was not tracked
138   114      2010
130   97      2009
121   98      2008
90   101      2007
119   118      2006
67   70      2005
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 09, 2012, 09:07:21 PM
Games of Jan 7, Jan 8

Arcadia  74,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (USCAA)  66
LaGrange  73,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA)  62
UC Santa Cruz  86,  Simpson (Cal.)  (NAIA-D2)  77
Wilkes  74,  Penn St.- Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  46
Yale  (NCAA-D1)  101,  St. Joseph's (L.I.)  86
Princeton  (NCAA-D1)  79,  New Jersey  68
Cornell (N.Y.)  (NCAA-D1)  78,  Albright  60
Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  64,  Grove City  62
Dakota Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  65,  Nebraska Wesleyan  53

D3 Record thru Jan 8

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   44
NCAA-D2   6   34
NAIA-D1   9   33
NAIA-D2   73   83
NCCAA   33   12
USCAA   90   31
Other   55   6



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 15, 2012, 10:55:06 AM
Games of January 9

West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA)  66,  Chapman  64
Florida Christian  (NCCAA)  81,  Covenant  75
SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  68,  Maine-Presque Isle  45

Games of January 10

Penn State-Harrisburg  93,  Penn College  (USCAA)  49
Free Will Baptist  (NCCAA)  56,  Sewanee  54
Penn St.-Dubois  (USCAA)  61,  Westminster (Pa.)  56

Games of January 11

Nebraska Wesleyan  76,  Doane  (NAIA-D2)  60
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  83,  Fitchburg State  81

Games of January 12

North Central (Minn.)  101,  Trinity Bible  (NCCAA)  73
Rowan  74,  Vaughn  (Other)  58
UC Santa Cruz  86,  Simpson (Cal.)  (NAIA-D2)  77

Game of January 13

Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  78,  North Central (Minn.)  61

Games of January 14


Finlandia  113,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  82
Greenville  81,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA)  78
Lakeland  97,  Northland International  (NCCAA)  67
North Central (Minn.)  71,  Central Bible  (NCCAA)  67
Randolph  89,  Johnson and Wales (NC)  (USCAA)  59
Northwestern (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  69,  Nebraska Wesleyan  61
Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA)  73,  Piedmont  70
New Jersey Tech  (NCAA-D1)  95,  SUNY-Cobleskill  57

D3 record vs non D3:

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   34
NAIA-D1   9   33
NAIA-D2   75   85
NCCAA   37   17
USCAA   93   33
Other   56   6

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on January 15, 2012, 12:34:31 PM
Which category will the January 23rd Webster vs Lindenwood game fall into?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 15, 2012, 12:40:38 PM
More importantly, does Free Will Baptist use the Rush song "Free Will" as its school song. And if so, can anyone hit the high notes?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on January 15, 2012, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 15, 2012, 12:40:38 PM
More importantly, does Free Will Baptist use the Rush song "Free Will" as its school song. And if so, can anyone hit the high notes?

This might just be the most conflicting thing in Neal Pearts life.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 15, 2012, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on January 15, 2012, 12:34:31 PM
Which category will the January 23rd Webster vs Lindenwood game fall into?

Well, they are not playing their NAIA conference schedule anymore, so I'll include them as NCAA D2

oops, I thought they were playing main Campus.. no it's Belleville....  They are USCAA
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 16, 2012, 06:30:28 PM
Games of January 15

Maine-Presque Isle  76,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  44
St. Joseph's (VT)  (USCAA)  91,  Vassar  83

D3 W L record

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   34
NAIA-D1   9   33
NAIA-D2   75   85
NCCAA   37   17
USCAA   94   34
Other   56   6



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 22, 2012, 09:54:21 PM
Activity  Jan 16 - 21

Nebraska Wesleyan  95,  Dordt  (NAIA-D2)  84
Arcadia  84,  Penn College  (USCAA)  41
Greensboro  82,  Allen  (NAIA-D1)  45
Huntingdon  79,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA)  77
Presentation  71,  Trinity Bible  (NCCAA)  62
New England College  81,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  63
Briar Cliff (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  67,  Nebraska Wesleyan  61
Albany Pharmacy  (Other)  73,  New England College  63
Holy Names  (NAIA-D2)  75,  UC Santa Cruz  73
Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  91,  St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  82

D3 record thru Jan 21

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   34
NAIA-D1   10   33
NAIA-D2   76   87
NCCAA   39   17
USCAA   96   35
Other   57   7

ATTENTION

MISSING Score   Rust vs Fisk   Jan 18           Can Anyone Help?   And if so, where did you find it?

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2012, 12:15:58 PM
hopefan,

Here's your missing score from the Rust-Fisk game:  Fisk 104 Rust 98. I first went to the Fisk website but they don't give you very much info there. (Only the roster of the Men's team but no schedule or stats.) I was going to email the Fisk SID but thought a phone call might be quicker. Good thing I did because the SID that's listed for Fisk is no longer there, so my email would have gone unanswered. I got some young fellow in the sports information department and he was kind enough to give me the score. He also gave me a link to their sports pages which shows their roster, and schedule (they have no stats link) but like Rust no one has bothered to post any results since Dec. 10th 2011. They've played 8 games since then with no results posted. I guess some schools just don't care. ???

PS: You're welcome.  Don't I always come through for you? That's why I'm the magicman.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 23, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
I don't care what they say up in the Northlands, you're ok in my book Magic!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on January 23, 2012, 03:01:31 PM
Fisk's results are posted through their naia stats page.  Unfortunately it did not contain the Rust score either.

http://www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/Team/TeamSchedule.aspx?association=10&sg=MBB&conference=NAIMBB1_GCAC&team=14966
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 31, 2012, 09:48:00 PM
activity Jan 22  -  Jan 30

UC Santa Cruz  76,  UC-Merced  (NAIA-D2)  71
Delaware Valley  96,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (USCAA)  80
Minnesota-Morris  74,  Trinity Bible  (NCCAA)  62
Nebraska Wesleyan  72,  Midland  (NAIA-D2)  69
Chapman  89,  Arizona Christian  (NAIA-D2)  56
UC Santa Cruz  77,  Pacifica  (Other)  49
UC Santa Cruz  74,  UC-Merced  (NAIA-D2)  52
Dubuque  77,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  52
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  66,  Maine-Presque Isle  49
Shorter  (NAIA-D1)  88,  Berry  44
Lindenwood (Mo)  (NCAA-D2)  78,  Webster  57
Moody Bible  (Other)  52,  Maranatha Baptist  50
Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  77,  Maine-Presque Isle  63
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  86,  Penn State-Harrisburg  84
Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  73,  Daniel Webster  69
SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  58,  Maine-Presque Isle  57
Vaughn  (Other)  67,  St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  64
Concordia (Mi.)  (NAIA-D2)  80,  Concordia (Ill.)  74
Concordia (Neb.)  (NAIA-D2)  69,  Concordia (Wis.)  67
Mount Marty  (NAIA-D2)  63,  Nebraska Wesleyan  56

D3 Record :

              W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   35
NAIA-D1   10   35
NAIA-D2   81   92
NCCAA   40   18
USCAA   98   39
Other   58   9


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 17, 2012, 04:43:27 AM
Scores Jan 31 - Feb 15  :

Alfred  80,  Houghton  (NAIA-D2)  61
Central  95,  Faith Bapt. Bible  (NCCAA)  49
Chapman  77,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA)  57
Gallaudet  83,  Christendom  (USCAA)  58
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  101,  Sarah Lawrence  (Other)  34
Keene State  84,  St. Joseph's (VT)  (USCAA)  83
Maranatha Baptist  78,  Faith Bapt. Bible  (NCCAA)  63
Finlandia  109,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  105
Nebraska Wesleyan  66,  Morningside  (NAIA-D2)  63
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  62,  Albany Pharmacy  (Other)  43
Brooklyn  83,  Berkeley College (NY)  (USCAA)  78
Hampden-Sydney  140,  Patrick Henry  (Other)  40
Maranatha Baptist  70,  Northland International  (NCCAA)  57
Rowan  86,  Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  82
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)  85,  Pratt  (Other)  54
Chapman  80,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  67
Eureka  99,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA)  70
Nebraska Wesleyan  86,  Hastings  (NAIA-D2)  78
Rust  85,  Fisk  (NAIA-D1)  80
Polytechnic  72,  Pratt  (Other)  33
Sage  67,  SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  63
Covenant  64,  Tennessee Temple  (NCCAA)  63
Penn State-Berks  71,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  54
Westminster (Pa.)  78,  Penn St.-Greater Allegheny  (USCAA)  59
Finlandia  101,  Northland International  (NCCAA)  99
Lehman  86,  Berkeley (N.J.)  (USCAA)  84
Chapman  102,  Pacifica  (Other)  70
Nebraska Wesleyan  67,  Doane  (NAIA-D2)  61
Colorado College  84,  Johnson & Wales (Colo.)  (NAIA-D2)  75
Concordia (Neb.)  (NAIA-D2)  67,  Nebraska Wesleyan  47
Young Harris  (NCAA-D2)  109,  Piedmont  60
Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA)  94,  Principia  82
McKendree  (NCAA-D2)  74,  MacMurray  57
Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  68,  Piedmont  49
Virginia-Lynchburg  (USCAA)  72,  Averett  65
Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  75,  Maine-Presque Isle  64
Penn State Delaware County  (USCAA)  83,  Lancaster Bible  82
Valley Forge Christian  (NCCAA)  81,  Philadelphia Bible  61
SUNY Canton  (USCAA)  83,  Green Mountain  69
Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  64,  Maine-Presque Isle  60
La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  80,  Chapman  77
Hiwassee  (USCAA)  75,  Huntingdon  72
Faith Bapt. Bible  (NCCAA)  93,  North Central (Minn.)  84
Virginia-Lynchburg  (USCAA)  62,  Maine-Presque Isle  53
Dakota Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  67,  Nebraska Wesleyan  62
Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  89,  Geneva  85
Tennessee Wesleyan  (NAIA-D2)  100,  Maryville (Tenn.)  79


D3 record through Feb 15

            W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   37
NAIA-D1   11   35
NAIA-D2   87   96
NCCAA   48   21
USCAA   106   48
Other   64   9

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: dahlby on February 24, 2012, 12:17:21 AM
D3 Chapman University 70, Black Hills State University D2 67.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on May 13, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
Apologies... I quit on this in February as the excitement of conference tourney time approached


Here are final records D3 vs non D3 Season 2011-12 : 

W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   7   37
NAIA-D1   11   36
NAIA-D2   88   97
NCCAA   49   26
USCAA   106   48
Other   66   9
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 13, 2012, 06:03:54 PM
Thanks for compiling this, Hopefan!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: HCACBBALL on May 13, 2012, 10:52:29 PM
I just read some of this discussion today.  Just for the record even though Neb Wesleyan is affiliated with both the NAIA and D3 they competed as a NAIA member last year.  This was due to the lack of d3 non conference games.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on May 22, 2012, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: HCACBBALL on May 13, 2012, 10:52:29 PM
I just read some of this discussion today.  Just for the record even though Neb Wesleyan is affiliated with both the NAIA and D3 they competed as a NAIA member last year.  This was due to the lack of d3 non conference games.

For these records, I have always gone with the site... if Pat and D3Hoops lists a school on the team pages, then I have included it, even though a majority of the games played by a particular team may be Non-NCAA. It does create some controversy using the Nebraska Wesleyans and UMPIs year in and year out, but at least it draws a solid line in the sand as to who to include, right or wrong....

We MAY need someone to step up and run this room in 2012-13....   I will be on a 40th anniversary vacation the first week of the season  (how did I let her plan a mid November wedding forty years ago?  I must have really been smitten!)  Anyway, current attitude is not doing the programming and downloading for 2012-13 that makes keeping up with this relatively easy....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 13, 2012, 08:15:45 PM

What's the ruling on games that count for the opponent, but not for the d3 school?  Eastern Nazarene College is playing competitively at NJIT tonight (only down five at the half despite a sloppy opening frame).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 13, 2012, 08:36:24 PM
If it doesn't count for a D3 school, it didn't happen.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ECSUalum on November 20, 2012, 11:46:19 AM
D-II Chaminade kicked some U of Texas butt yesterday 86-73 8-)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Greek Tragedy on January 03, 2013, 12:00:27 PM
Whitewater beat the number 1 ranked NAIA Division 2 team, Cardinal Stritch, 91-81.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on June 30, 2013, 01:20:27 PM
Though Retirement won't give me freedom until most of the 2013-14 season is complete, I'm looking forward to keeping the necessary data to monitor this subject and supply complete data!!!!... already staring to input available schedules!!!!    'The return of hopefan!!'!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on July 01, 2013, 03:12:10 AM
Quote from: hopefan on June 30, 2013, 01:20:27 PM
Though Retirement won't give me freedom until most of the 2013-14 season is complete, I'm looking forward to keeping the necessary data to monitor this subject and supply complete data!!!!... already staring to input available schedules!!!!    'The return of hopefan!!'!

Glad to hear that. I'll help when you can't find a score.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on July 08, 2013, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: hopefan on June 30, 2013, 01:20:27 PM
Though Retirement won't give me freedom until most of the 2013-14 season is complete, I'm looking forward to keeping the necessary data to monitor this subject and supply complete data!!!!... already staring to input available schedules!!!!    'The return of hopefan!!'!

Great news! Thanks for doing this!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on October 27, 2013, 10:43:08 PM
Regular Season Games vs D1 this season.... will we get one this year?
Note... preseason exhibitions not included..
Also..     I started collecting schedules 2 months ago.. games scheduled recently may have been missed in some cases...

11/20/2013   Thiel  (PrAC)  vs  Youngstown State         
11/20/2013   Greensboro  (USA South)  vs  UNC Greensboro         
11/21/2013   Eureka  (SLIAC)  vs  Western Illinois         
11/23/2013   Wilmington  (OAC)  vs  Miami (Ohio)         
11/23/2013   Westminster (Pa.)  (PrAC)  vs  Youngstown State         
11/27/2013   Mount St. Vincent  (SKY)  vs  St. Francis (N.Y.)         
11/30/2013   Greenville  (SLIAC)  vs  Western Illinois         
12/2/2013   Iowa Wesleyan  (SLIAC-D3 Provisional)  vs  South Dakota         
12/4/2013   Lewis and Clark  (NWC)  vs  Portland         
12/4/2013   Lyndon State  (NAC)  vs  Vermont         
12/4/2013   Catholic  (LAND)  vs  Loyola (Md.)         
12/5/2013   La Verne  (SCIAC)  vs  UC Riverside         
12/5/2013   North Carolina Wesleyan  (USA South)  vs  Coastal Carolina         
12/7/2013   Greensboro  (USA South)  vs  Liberty         
12/9/2013   Manchester  (HCAC)  vs  Butler         
12/10/2013   Colorado College  (SCAC)  vs  Northern Colorado         
12/14/2013   Louisiana College  (ASC)  vs  Northwestern State (La.)         
12/15/2013   Pacific Lutheran  (NWC)  vs  Seattle         
12/17/2013   Immaculata  (CSAC)  vs  Lafayette         
12/20/2013   Texas-Tyler  (ASC)  vs  Texas St.         
12/20/2013   Goucher  (LAND)  vs  William and Mary         
12/21/2013   Elmhurst  (CCIW)  vs  Stephen F. Austin         
12/22/2013   Ursinus  (CC)  vs  Colgate         
12/29/2013   Albertus Magnus  (GNAC)  vs  Central Connecticut         
12/30/2013   Coast Guard  (NEWMAC)  vs  Army         
12/30/2013   Houghton  (E8-D3 Provisional)  vs  Radford         
1/4/2014   Kalamazoo  (MIAA)  vs  IPFW         
1/4/2014   Washington College  (CC)  vs  VMI         
1/11/2014   Daniel Webster  (NECC)  vs  Brown         
1/11/2014   Baruch  (CUNYAC)  vs  Yale         
1/13/2014   CCNY  (CUNYAC)  vs  New Jersey Tech         
1/26/2014   Kean  (NJAC)  vs  Princeton         

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 28, 2013, 07:57:15 AM
               
12/4/2013   Lewis and Clark  (NWC)  vs  Portland                  
12/4/2013   Catholic  (LAND)  vs  Loyola (Md.)               
12/7/2013   Greensboro  (USA South)  vs  Liberty                           
12/21/2013   Elmhurst  (CCIW)  vs  Stephen F. Austin                  
12/29/2013   Albertus Magnus  (GNAC)  vs  Central Connecticut                  
12/30/2013   Houghton  (E8-D3 Provisional)  vs  Radford         

Those are the only games I could see maybe, possibly happening.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on October 28, 2013, 01:52:05 PM
SF Austin was 27-5 last year and in the NIT and probably should have made the NCAA if all was right and true and just. That's not going to happen.
Loyola went 23-12 and played in the post season as well.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on October 29, 2013, 12:46:57 AM
Albertus Magnus vs. Central isn't happening either.  Kyle Vinellis for Central is one of the better players in the country you've never heard of.  I think he scored 40 points 2 or 3 times last year.  However, if they were playing St. Francis (NY) instead of CCSU, I think Alburtus could've defeated them.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on October 29, 2013, 08:07:29 AM
12/8/13 - Webster (SLIAC) vs Missouri S&T
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on October 29, 2013, 11:34:32 AM
Yjack... Missouri S&T is D2....  I just put out NCAAD1 schedule as it garners some amount of additional interest... starting Nov 15, I'll report ALL scores vs any Non D3, as well as cumulative records.... ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 29, 2013, 11:45:35 AM

I left the Albertus and Elmhurst games on there because those d1 teams are good enough to look past a d3 school and the d3 schools are just good enough to make them pay for doing so.

Most d1 v d3 games are forgone conclusions, even if one school plays their worst game and the other their best.  It's those games in the middle, where the overlap exists that you find potential winners.

You rarely, if ever, see a low d1 schedule a high d3 anymore - not after Williams over Holy Cross.  It's all about figuring out who's capable of winning on the other team's off night.  I think both Albertus and Elmhurst can do it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on October 29, 2013, 01:49:13 PM
The lowest rated D1 off that list according to last years massey is UC-Riverside then UNC-Greensboro.  Everyone else cracks the top 280 or so.  Don't think its happening this year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on October 29, 2013, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: hopefan on October 29, 2013, 11:34:32 AM
Yjack... Missouri S&T is D2....  I just put out NCAAD1 schedule as it garners some amount of additional interest... starting Nov 15, I'll report ALL scores vs any Non D3, as well as cumulative records.... ;)

It would help if I read the fine print.  :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on October 29, 2013, 06:35:23 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on October 29, 2013, 11:45:35 AM

I left the Albertus and Elmhurst games on there because those d1 teams are good enough to look past a d3 school and the d3 schools are just good enough to make them pay for doing so.

Most d1 v d3 games are forgone conclusions, even if one school plays their worst game and the other their best.  It's those games in the middle, where the overlap exists that you find potential winners.

You rarely, if ever, see a low d1 schedule a high d3 anymore - not after Williams over Holy Cross.  It's all about figuring out who's capable of winning on the other team's off night.  I think both Albertus and Elmhurst can do it.

Elmhurst doesn't have a prayer of winning that game, HF.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 02, 2013, 07:36:32 AM
Buffalo State got an early start to the season Friday night as they visited Division I Niagara University for an exhibition game against the Purple Eagles. Buff State lost 96-71 but putting up 71 points against a DI team is a decent effort. The Bengals kept it close in the early going and actually had a 10-8 lead, but Niagara went on an 11-0 run to open up a 9 point lead at 19-10. Bengals got within 5 points at 23-18 but the Purple Eagles slowly pulled away and ended the half up 49-29. Niagara continued to build their lead at the start of the 2nd period and were up 55-31 with 17:42 left to play. The Bengals mounted a charge however and outscored Niagara 16-0 over the next 3 minutes led by Rod Epps, Jordan Glover and Justin Mitchell. When Buff State started their run all 5 starters for Niagara were in the game. The Purple Eagles basically used an 8 man rotation while the Bengals had 10 different players average double digit minutes. Eventually the superior height advantage of Niagara proved to be too much for the Bengals to overcome and the lead once again grew to double figures. Over the final 10 minutes Niagara pulled away to post the final margin of victory. That 16-0 run by the Bengals though, must have had the Bengal faithful on their feet. Hard to outscore any D1 team 16-0 at any point in a game, even against their end of the bench players, much less their starters.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on November 08, 2013, 04:00:02 PM
I'm actually going to see Central Connecticut play tomorrow.  I still don't think Albertus can beat them, but if Kyle Vanelis is hurt/sick for that game, who knows AMC may actually win that game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 11, 2013, 09:52:11 PM
A question for the pro(s) managing this topic. Nebraska Wesleyan has dual membership in the NAIA and NCAA. But looking at their schedule this season there seem to be very few games vs NCAA D3 teams. Simpson is the one team on their schedule that I'm certain is D3. So will Neb Wes be included in the "vs NAIA" in that game with Simpson and any other D3 schools on their schedule?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 11, 2013, 11:25:25 PM
Neb. Wesleyan always has to declare if they are D3 or not and apply for the waiver to complete in the NCAA tournament. They have not declared for D3 in a long time - though they are still a D3 program and institution in the eyes of the NCAA. Remember, they have a D3 national title in the rafters.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 11, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
NebWes has declared for the NAIA tourney for the past several years rather than the NCAA tourney (you have to make such declarations in the preseason), so, for all intents and purposes, the Prairie Wolves are currently an NAIA team.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 11, 2013, 11:27:21 PM
Believe it or not - those decisions have to be made in MAY ... six months prior!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 11, 2013, 11:28:15 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 11, 2013, 11:25:25 PM
Neb. Wesleyan always has to declare if they are D3 or not and apply for the waiver to complete in the NCAA tournament. They have not declared for D3 in a long time - though they are still a D3 program and institution in the eyes of the NCAA. Remember, they have a D3 national title in the rafters.

If they do, it's not for men's basketball. NebWes has been to the D3 men's Final Four four times, but it's never brought home the Big Doorstop.

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 11, 2013, 11:27:21 PM
Believe it or not - those decisions have to be made in MAY ... six months prior!

"Preseason" is a relative term. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 12, 2013, 08:04:35 AM
As I am intending to supply all data for this site, including scores and won loss.. yes, I'm well aware of the dual Membership situations...  Nebraska Wesleyan and Maine Presque Isle will not be considered NCAA-D3 as they play less than half their games vs D3.

In the case of Provisional and Exploratory teams:
Iowa Wesleyan, Centenary, and Houghton will be considered NCAA D3 teams as they play full D3 conference schedules...
Alfred State, Penn College, Bryn Athyn, Illinois Tech, Sarah Lawrence, SUNY-Canton, and Valley Forge Christian will not be considered NCAA-D3, as most play less than half their games vs NCAA-D3.  Alfred State will be over half depending on Tourney matchups, but I left them off the NCAA list as they were borderline....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 12, 2013, 08:36:41 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 12, 2013, 08:04:35 AM
As I am intending to supply all data for this site, including scores and won loss.. yes, I'm well aware of the dual Membership situations...  Nebraska Wesleyan and Maine Presque Isle will not be considered NCAA-D3 as they play less than half their games vs D3.

So in the case of the aforementioned Simpson vs Nebraska Wesleyan game (see my post above), will that game be included in your list of games that D3 teams play against NAIA D2 teams?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on November 12, 2013, 11:46:09 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 11, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
NebWes has declared for the NAIA tourney for the past several years rather than the NCAA tourney (you have to make such declarations in the preseason), so, for all intents and purposes, the Prairie Wolves are currently an NAIA team.

Even though they do not declare for the D3 Tourney in basketball they do compete for the D3 title in track and in fact host this years D3 Indoor Championships.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 12, 2013, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 12, 2013, 08:36:41 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 12, 2013, 08:04:35 AM
As I am intending to supply all data for this site, including scores and won loss.. yes, I'm well aware of the dual Membership situations...  Nebraska Wesleyan and Maine Presque Isle will not be considered NCAA-D3 as they play less than half their games vs D3.

So in the case of the aforementioned Simpson vs Nebraska Wesleyan game (see my post above), will that game be included in your list of games that D3 teams play against NAIA D2 teams?

That's correct....

also, in keeping with that mindset there will be a separate 'non-D3' catagory for NCAAD3 provisional and exploratory for the schools I mentioned....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 12, 2013, 12:43:11 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 12, 2013, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 12, 2013, 08:36:41 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 12, 2013, 08:04:35 AM
As I am intending to supply all data for this site, including scores and won loss.. yes, I'm well aware of the dual Membership situations...  Nebraska Wesleyan and Maine Presque Isle will not be considered NCAA-D3 as they play less than half their games vs D3.

So in the case of the aforementioned Simpson vs Nebraska Wesleyan game (see my post above), will that game be included in your list of games that D3 teams play against NAIA D2 teams?

That's correct....

also, in keeping with that mindset there will be a separate 'non-D3' catagory for NCAAD3 provisional and exploratory for the schools I mentioned....

Awesome! You are the man!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2013, 05:37:11 PM
hopefan,

Here's another D3 vs D1 that wasn't on your list.

December 30th Lyndon State will travel to the University of Vermont to take on the Catamounts.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 13, 2013, 09:59:36 PM
Thanks Magic... that must have been a late one.. I didn't have it....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: madzillagd on November 14, 2013, 11:41:15 AM
Pacific Lutheran 43, Portland State 79 last night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 14, 2013, 11:56:15 AM
That's still exhibition, right? There have been a lot of results this past week where D3 teams play D1 teams and it counts for D1 but is still a D3 exhibition.

(I really hate that...)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: madzillagd on November 14, 2013, 12:06:19 PM
Correct - Real game for PSU, Exh for PLU
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Would have had scores up by now, but a change in the format used on D3hoops scoreboard (spaces after rteam ranking, etc) since two years ago has my formulas and Macros turned to gobblely goop.. should have corrected for tomorrow....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2013, 12:29:17 PM
Games of 11/15/13


Bates (D3)  107    Maine-Augusta (USCAA)  46
Valley Forge Christian (Ind-D3 Provisional)  75    Grove City (D3)  72
William Peace (D3)  80    Johnson And Wales (N.C.) (USCAA)  76
Hilbert (D3)  93    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  39
Penn St. Beaver (USCAA)  85    St. Vincent (D3)  83
John Jay (D3)  80    Penn State Brandywine (USCAA)  62
Lycoming (D3)  94    Penn College (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  77
Marietta (D3)  84    Ohio Christian (NCCAA-D2)  83
Mitchell (D3)  102    Albany Pharmacy (Other)  52
Muhlenberg (D3)  95    Bryn Athyn (USCAA)  55
North Carolina Wesleyan (D3)  95    Maryland Bible (Other)  64
Greensboro (D3)  74    Bob Jones (NCCAA-D1)  64
DePauw (D3)  85    Trinity International (NAIA-D2)  39
North Central (Ill.) (D3)  100    Valor Christian (USCAA)  72
Potsdam State (D3)  71    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  69
UW-Platteville (D3)  97    Indiana Dabney (USCAA)  64
Puget Sound (D3)  71    Evergreen St. (NAIA-D2)  58
Sewanee (D3)  80    Crown (Tn.) (NCCAA-D2)  45
SUNY-Maritime (D3)  82    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  52
Albion (D3)  81    College of Faith (Other)  70
Mount Mercy (NAIA-D2)  84    UW-Stout (D3)  83   **** correction made
Endicott (D3)  89    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  78
Widener (D3)  112    Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  76
CCNY (D3)  95    Cooper Union (Other)  50
Concordia (Texas) (D3)  129    Huston-Tillotson (NAIA-D1)  127
King's (D3)  106    Penn State Scranton (USCAA)  64
Minnesota Crookston (NCAA-D2)  76    Northland (D3)  68
Randolph (D3)  77    Christendom (USCAA)  35
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA-D2)  58    Millsaps (D3)  55
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (D3)  72    San Diego Christian (NAIA-D1)  60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2013, 09:58:08 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 17, 2013, 12:29:17 PM
Games of 11/15/13


Bates (D3)  107    Maine-Augusta (USCAA)  46
Valley Forge Christian (Ind-D3 Provisional)  75    Grove City (D3)  72
William Peace (D3)  80    Johnson And Wales (N.C.) (USCAA)  76
Hilbert (D3)  93    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  39
Penn St. Beaver (USCAA)  85    St. Vincent (D3)  83
John Jay (D3)  80    Penn State Brandywine (USCAA)  62
Lycoming (D3)  94    Penn College (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  77
Marietta (D3)  84    Ohio Christian (NCCAA-D2)  83
Mitchell (D3)  102    Albany Pharmacy (Other)  52
Muhlenberg (D3)  95    Bryn Athyn (USCAA)  55
North Carolina Wesleyan (D3)  95    Maryland Bible (Other)  64
Greensboro (D3)  74    Bob Jones (NCCAA-D1)  64
DePauw (D3)  85    Trinity International (NAIA-D2)  39
North Central (Ill.) (D3)  100    Valor Christian (USCAA)  72
Potsdam State (D3)  71    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  69
UW-Platteville (D3)  97    Indiana Dabney (USCAA)  64
Puget Sound (D3)  71    Evergreen St. (NAIA-D2)  58
Sewanee (D3)  80    Crown (Tn.) (NCCAA-D2)  45
SUNY-Maritime (D3)  82    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  52
Albion (D3)  81    College of Faith (Other)  70
Mount Mercy (D3)  84    UW-Stout (WIAC)  83
Endicott (D3)  89    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  78
Widener (D3)  112    Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  76
CCNY (D3)  95    Cooper Union (Other)  50
Concordia (Texas) (D3)  129    Huston-Tillotson (NAIA-D1)  127
King's (D3)  106    Penn State Scranton (USCAA)  64
Minnesota Crookston (NCAA-D2)  76    Northland (D3)  68
Randolph (D3)  77    Christendom (USCAA)  35
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA-D2)  58    Millsaps (D3)  55
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (D3)  72    San Diego Christian (NAIA-D1)  60

hopefan,

I'm wondering why the bolded score is on the list? ???  Both D3? I think not, my friend. I know you're trying to keep D3 in the lead against the other guys but I have to keep you honest. Mount Mercy is NAIA-D2. ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
Darned macro..... ;D ;D

Actually thanks, just found the error....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2013, 11:51:23 PM
Games of 11/16/13


Maine-Farmington (D3)  117    Maine-Augusta (USCAA)  67
Valley Forge Christian (Ind-D3 Provisional)  79    Geneva (D3)  76
LaGrange (D3)  88    Johnson And Wales (N.C.) (USCAA)  83
St. Lawrence (D3)  84    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  48
Penn St. Beaver (USCAA)  87    Hiram (D3)  74
Lewis and Clark (D3)  108    Portland Bible (NCCAA-D2)  58
Ohio Christian (NCCAA-D2)  102    Earlham (D3)  69
Lehman (D3)  68    Albany Pharmacy (Other)  53
Hunter (D3)  78    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  74
North Carolina Wesleyan (D3)  79    Bob Jones (NCCAA-D1)  65
Greensboro (D3)  76    Maryland Bible (Other)  72
Clarkson (D3)  85    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  67
UW-La Crosse (D3)  75    Indiana Dabney (USCAA)  59
Immaculata (D3)  95    Penn State-Abington (USCAA)  93
Sewanee (D3)  96    Columbia International (NCCAA-D1)  66
St. Cloud State (NCAA-D2)  80    St. John's (D3)  74
Mayville State (NAIA-D2)  81    St. Scholastica (D3)  69
Merchant Marine (D3)  71    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  61
Albion (D3)  83    Northern Michigan (NCAA-D2)  76
Wilkes (D3)  87    Penn St.-Greater Allegheny (USCAA)  75
Mount Mercy (NAIA-D2)  66    Wartburg (D3)  56
Webster (D3)  85    Calumet St. Joseph (NAIA-D2)  55
Fisher (NAIA-D2)  90    Maine Maritime (D3)  53
Rowan (D3)  89    Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  60
Mississippi College (D3)  73    Pensacola Christian (NCCAA-D2)  61
Chapman (D3)  71    La Sierra (NAIA-D2)  50
Robert Morris (Chicago) (NAIA-D2)  80    Concordia (Ill.) (D3)  61
William Penn (NAIA-D2)  106    Finlandia (D3)  62
Minnesota-Moorhead (NCAA-D2)  94    Northland (D3)  38
Millersville (NCAA-D2)  69    Rutgers-Camden (D3)  50
University of the Ozarks (D3)  134    Baptist Bible (Mo.) (NCCAA-D2)  70
St. Mary's (Tx.) (NCAA-D2)  73    Texas Lutheran (D3)  64


D3 versus      
                W   L
NCAA-D1   0   0
NCAA-D2   1   5
NAIA-D1                 2   0
NAIA-D2                 5   6
NCCAA-D1   3   0
NCCAA-D2   5   2
USCAA                13   2
Other                  6   0
Ind-D3 Exploratory3   0
IND-D3 Provisional6   2


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Games of 11/17/13

Calumet St. Joseph (NAIA-D2)  67    MacMurray (D3)  59
Linfield (D3)  82    Portland Bible (NCCAA-D2)  63
UC Santa Cruz (D3)  79    Pacific Union (NAIA-D2)  56
Franciscan (Ohio) (D3)  88    Penn St.-Greater Allegheny (USCAA)  64
Grinnell (D3)  173    Crossroads (NCCAA-D2)  123
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA)  122    RPI (D3)  95
La Sierra (NAIA-D2)  70    Pacific (D3)  68


D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   0   0   
NCAA-D2   1   5   
NAIA-D1   2   0   
NAIA-D2   6   8   
NCCAA-D1   3   0   
NCCAA-D2   7   2   
USCAA   14   3   
Other   6   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   3   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   6   2   
         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2013, 11:49:02 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 18, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Games of 11/17/13

Calumet St. Joseph (NAIA-D2)  67    MacMurray (D3)  59
Linfield (D3)  82    Portland Bible (NCCAA-D2)  63
UC Santa Cruz (D3)  79    Pacific Union (NAIA-D2)  56
Franciscan (Ohio) (D3)  88    Penn St.-Greater Allegheny (USCAA)  64
Grinnell (D3)  173    Crossroads (NCCAA-D2)  123
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA)  122    RPI (D3)  95
La Sierra (NAIA-D2)  70    Pacific (D3)  68

hopefan,
That bolded score does not bode well for your alma mater. :(

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 19, 2013, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 18, 2013, 11:49:02 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 18, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Games of 11/17/13

Calumet St. Joseph (NAIA-D2)  67    MacMurray (D3)  59
Linfield (D3)  82    Portland Bible (NCCAA-D2)  63
UC Santa Cruz (D3)  79    Pacific Union (NAIA-D2)  56
Franciscan (Ohio) (D3)  88    Penn St.-Greater Allegheny (USCAA)  64
Grinnell (D3)  173    Crossroads (NCCAA-D2)  123
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA)  122    RPI (D3)  95
La Sierra (NAIA-D2)  70    Pacific (D3)  68

hopefan,
That bolded score does not bode well for your alma mater. :(

you're telling me... I can't see playing run and gun against a team who probably wants to play that way...   could be a long season....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2013, 06:48:07 AM
Games of 11/18/13

Husson (D3)  112    Maine-Augusta (USCAA)  70
Wright State (NCAA-D1)  83    Manchester (D3)  33
King's (D3)  81    Penn St.-Hazleton (USCAA)  51
Grand Valley (NCAA-D2)  70    Olivet (D3)  48
St. Vincent (D3)  93    Penn St.-Fayette (USCAA)  73
Texas Lutheran (D3)  77    Open Bible (Other)  63


D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   0   1   
NCAA-D2   1   6   
NAIA-D1   2   0   
NAIA-D2   6   8   
NCCAA-D1   3   0   
NCCAA-D2   7   2   
USCAA   17   3   
Other   7   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   3   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   6   2   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
Missed on 11/15/13... D3hoops can't catch 'em all

Wayland Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  81, Sul Ross State (D3)  74

Missed on 11/16/13

McMurry  (NCAA-D2)  76,  Sul Ross State (D3)  72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 20, 2013, 08:11:42 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 20, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
Missed on 11/15/13... D3hoops can't catch 'em all

Wayland Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  81, Sul Ross State (D3)  74

Missed on 11/16/13

McMurry  (NCAA-D2)  76,  Sul Ross State (D3)  72

IS McMurry considered full D2 already?  (Must not have the waiting periods we have in D3.)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
Games of 11/19/13

Albion (D3)  51    Spring Arbor (NAIA-D2)  50
Centenary (La.) (D3)  88    LSU-Shreveport (NAIA-D1)  84
Vanguard (NAIA-D1)  90    Chapman (D3)  71
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (D3)  68    Master's (NAIA-D1)  56
Wayne State (Neb.) (NCAA-D2)  80    Crown (D3)  52
Bemidji State (NCAA-D2)  81    Finlandia (D3)  60
Greenville (D3)  82    Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D2)  62
Marywood (D3)  82    Penn State Scranton (USCAA)  72
Minnesota-Morris (D3)  84    Trinity Bible (NCCAA-D2)  63
Northwest (Wash.) (NAIA-D2)  78    Pacific Lutheran (D3)  71
Piedmont (D3)  83    Toccoa Falls (NCCAA-D2)  74
Biola (NAIA-D1)  73    Pomona-Pitzer (D3)  70
Redlands (D3)  75    San Diego Christian (NAIA-D1)  67
Minnesota Duluth (NCAA-D2)  73    UW-Superior (D3)  58
North Carolina Wesleyan (D3)  96    Mid-Atlantic Christian (USCAA)  75
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA-D2)  94    Lagrange (D3)  91
St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA-D2)  74    Principia (D3)  63
Grand View (NAIA-D2)  93    Simpson (D3)  86
Massachusetts College (D3)  100    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  86
Keuka (D3)  92    Alfred State  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  62


D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   0   1   
NCAA-D2   1   10   
NAIA-D1   5   3   
NAIA-D2   8   11   
NCCAA-D1   3   0   
NCCAA-D2   10   3   
USCAA   19   3   
Other   7   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   3   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   7   2   

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2013, 10:57:37 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 20, 2013, 08:11:42 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 20, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
Missed on 11/15/13... D3hoops can't catch 'em all

Wayland Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  81, Sul Ross State (D3)  74

Missed on 11/16/13

McMurry  (NCAA-D2)  76,  Sul Ross State (D3)  72

IS McMurry considered full D2 already?  (Must not have the waiting periods we have in D3.)
We are D-2 provisional (I think that we have 2 years left before we will be full members of the D-2 Heartland Conference and a football affiliate of the Lone Star Conference.)

This does give me the chance to mention our buzzer beater 3-pointer  in the win over Conference USA-member UT-San Antonio, 73-71.

http://youtu.be/e-typOCBRJk
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2013, 06:57:55 AM
Games of 11/20/13


Cal Lutheran (D3)  77    Bethesda (NCCAA-D1)  74
Arcadia (D3)  82    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  77
Clarkson (D3)  76    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  66
Minnesota Crookston (NCAA-D2)  81    Finlandia (D3)  61
Concordia (Ala.) (USCAA)  103    Huntingdon (D3)  77
Penn St. Beaver (USCAA)  75    La Roche (D3)  64
Lewis and Clark (D3)  100    Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2)  89
Maine-Presque Isle (USCAA)  65    Maine Maritime (D3)  58
Penn State-Abington (D3)  99    Penn State Lehigh Valley (USCAA)  74
Viterbo (NAIA-D2)  65    St. Mary's (Minn.) (D3)  48
Wilkes (D3)  79    Penn St.-Hazleton (USCAA)  63
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1)  82    Thiel (D3)  58
Rowan (D3)  79    Penn State Brandywine (USCAA)  66
DeSales (D3)  94    Penn St.- Wilkes Barre (USCAA)  89
Williams (D3)  80    St. Joseph's (Vt.) (USCAA)  64
Sage (D3)  87    Albany Pharmacy (Other)  60
UNC Greensboro (NCAA-D1)  92    Greensboro (D3)  62


D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   0   3   
NCAA-D2   1   11   
NAIA-D1   5   3   
NAIA-D2   9   12   
NCCAA-D1   4   0   
NCCAA-D2   10   3   
USCAA   24   6   
Other   8   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   8   2   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 09:56:20 AM
Games of 11/21/13

Bluffton (D3)  100    OSU Mansfield (Other)  62
Cazenovia (D3)  104    SUNY-ESF (USCAA)  92
Finlandia (D3)  57    Mayville State (NAIA-D2)  54
Lakeland (D3)  90    Silver Lake (USCAA)  76
Maryville (Tenn.) (D3)  122    Johnson (NCCAA-D2)  65
North Central (Ill.) (D3)  87    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  30
Viterbo (NAIA-D2)  89    Martin Luther (D3)  77
Oglethorpe (D3)  63    Warren Wilson (USCAA)  50
Whittier (D3)      West Coast Baptist (NCCAA-D2)       rescheduled to 12/3
Lehman (D3)  98    The New School (Other)  34
Western Illinois (NCAA-D1)  79    Eureka (D3)  52


D3 versus      
              W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   11
NAIA-D1   5   3
NAIA-D2   10   13
NCCAA-D1   4   0
NCCAA-D2   11   3
USCAA   27   6
Other   10   0
Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0
IND-D3 Provisional   9   2

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 22, 2013, 11:43:27 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 09:56:20 AM
D3 versus      
              W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   11
NAIA-D1   5   3
NAIA-D2   10   13
NCCAA-D1   4   0
NCCAA-D2   11   3
USCAA   27   6
Other   10   0

Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0
IND-D3 Provisional   9   2

It seems very odd to me that we've played 61 games below even NAIA II level vs  just 23 against NAIA II, our closest cousin.  Maybe this will correct itself as we go deeper into the season?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: sac on November 22, 2013, 11:43:27 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 09:56:20 AM
D3 versus      
              W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   11
NAIA-D1   5   3
NAIA-D2   10   13
NCCAA-D1   4   0
NCCAA-D2   11   3
USCAA   27   6
Other   10   0

Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0
IND-D3 Provisional   9   2

It seems very odd to me that we've played 61 games below even NAIA II level vs  just 23 against NAIA II, our closest cousin.  Maybe this will correct itself as we go deeper into the season?


Cupcake time

Actually I can answer the question, though my numbers miss some tournament games..

2013-14 Games vs:
NCAA-D1   34
NCAA-D2   33
NAIA-D1     29
NAIA-D2    110
NCCAA-D1   11
NCCAA-D2    53
USCAA        110
Other           35
Ind-D3 Exploratory   13
IND-D3 Provisional    51
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on November 22, 2013, 01:04:56 PM
I'm not so sure I'd automatically count NCCAA-D1 as below NAIA-D2. Aren't a decent number of them actually NAIA-II, NCAA-D3, and even NCAA-D2 members?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on November 22, 2013, 01:34:51 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on November 22, 2013, 01:04:56 PM
I'm not so sure I'd automatically count NCCAA-D1 as below NAIA-D2. Aren't a decent number of them actually NAIA-II, NCAA-D3, and even NCAA-D2 members?
You can find the list here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCCAA_institutions), but you might want to double check against thenccaa.org.  Many NCAA-D2 members and NAIA-D2 with some NCAA-D3 and NAIA-D1.  Gardner Webb won the NCCAA tournament in 2001 as a NCAA D-1 member, but is no longer competing in the NCCAA.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 22, 2013, 01:41:36 PM
Does the tally of NCCAA list those with sole membership in said organization?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on November 22, 2013, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: smedindy on November 22, 2013, 01:41:36 PM
Does the tally of NCCAA list those with sole membership in said organization?
The wikipedia list  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCCAA_institutions) appears to be pretty accurate from a quick inspection.  I count 10 out of 69 NCCAA D-1 members who aren't currently a member of another organization. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 02:07:41 PM
Here is where I have teams categorized... it is not necessarily all-inclusive, but at a minimum includes any teams playing a D3 school

Bethesda   NCCAA-D1
Bob Jones   NCCAA-D1
Columbia International   NCCAA-D1
Crowley's Ridge   NCCAA-D1
Dallas Baptist   NCCAA-D1
Lee   NCCAA-D1
New Hope Christian   NCCAA-D1
Oklahoma Christian   NCCAA-D1
Point   NCCAA-D1
Tennessee Temple   NCCAA-D1
Victory   NCCAA-D1


Arlington Baptist   NCCAA-D2
Baptist Bible (Mo.)   NCCAA-D2
Boyce   NCCAA-D2
Central Bible   NCCAA-D2
Crossroads   NCCAA-D2
Crown (Tn.)   NCCAA-D2
Dallas Christian   NCCAA-D2
Faith Baptist Bible   NCCAA-D2
Grace Bible   NCCAA-D2
Great Lakes Christian   NCCAA-D2
Johnson   NCCAA-D2
Kuyper   NCCAA-D2
Lincoln Christian   NCCAA-D2
Manhattan Christian   NCCAA-D2
Moody Bible   NCCAA-D2
Multnomah   NCCAA-D2
Northland International   NCCAA-D2
Ohio Christian   NCCAA-D2
Pensacola Christian   NCCAA-D2
Portland Bible   NCCAA-D2
Providence College   NCCAA-D2
Toccoa Falls   NCCAA-D2
Trinity (Fla.)   NCCAA-D2
Trinity Bible   NCCAA-D2
West Coast Baptist   NCCAA-D2


Akron-Wayne   Other
Albany Pharmacy   Other
American Sports   Other
Barclay   Other
Bethany (Cal.)   Other
Champion Baptist   Other
College of Faith   Other
Concordia St. Louis   Other
Cooper Union   Other
Culinary Institute   Other
Davis   Other
Dayspring Bible   Other
East-West   Other
Emmaus   other
Free Will Baptist   Other
Gogebic CC   Other
Hiwassee   Other
Holland College   Other
Jamestown-Olean   Other
John Abbott   Other
Kent St.-Tuscarawas   Other
Logan Chiropractic   Other
Maryland Bible   Other
Miami-Hamilton   Other
Nebraska Christian   Other
Ohio State Lima   Other
Ohio State Marion   Other
Ohio University Eastern   Other
Ohio University-Zanesville   Other
Open Bible   Other
OSU Lima   Other
OSU Mansfield   Other
Pacifica   Other
Patrick Henry   Other
Pitt-Titusville   Other
Pratt   Other
Rhema Bible   Other
Sacred Heart (PR)   Other
Sagrado Corazon   Other
Shawnee Baptist   Other
Simon Fraser   Other
Southern Maine C.C.   Other
Southwestern Adventist   Other
St. Katherine   Other
St. Louis Christian   Other
SUNY-Delhi   Other
Thaddeus Stevens   Other
The New School   Other
Universidad Metropolitana   Other
Valley Forge Military   Other
Word of Life   Other


Andrews   USCAA
Barber Scotia   USCAA
Berkeley (N.J.)   USCAA
Berkeley College (NY)   USCAA
Briarcliffe (N.Y)   USCAA
Central Penn   USCAA
Christendom   USCAA
Concordia (Ala.)   USCAA
Daeman   USCAA
Florida College   USCAA
Indiana Dabney   USCAA
Johnson and Wales (N.C.)   USCAA
King's College NY   USCAA
Lindenwood-Belleville   USCAA
Maine-Augusta   USCAA
Maine-Fort Kent   USCAA
Maine-Machias   USCAA
Maine-Presque Isle   USCAA
Me.-Augusta   USCAA
Mid-Atlantic Christian   USCAA
Oakwood   USCAA
Ohio MidWestern   USCAA
Paul Smiths   USCAA
Penn St. Beaver   USCAA
Penn St. Mont Alto   USCAA
Penn St.- Wilkes Barre   USCAA
Penn St.-Dubois   USCAA
Penn St.-Fayette   USCAA
Penn St.-Greater Allegheny   USCAA
Penn St.-Hazleton   USCAA
Penn St.-New Kensington   USCAA
Penn State Brandywine   USCAA
Penn State Delaware County   USCAA
Penn State Lehigh Valley   USCAA
Penn State Schuylkill   USCAA
Penn State Scranton   USCAA
Penn State York   USCAA
Robert Morris-Lake County   USCAA
Robert Morris-Springfield   USCAA
Rochester (Mich.)   USCAA
Saint Mary-of-the-Woods   USCAA
Silver Lake   USCAA
St. Joseph's (VT.)   USCAA
SUNY-ESF   USCAA
The Apprentice School   USCAA
UC Clermont   USCAA
Unity   USCAA
Valor Christian   USCAA
Vaughn   USCAA
Vermont Tech   USCAA
Virginia-Lynchburg   USCAA
Warren Wilson   USCAA
Washington Adventist   USCAA
Williamson Trade School   USCAA




Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 02:10:57 PM
Allen   NAIA-D1
Arizona Christian   NAIA-D1
Auburn Montgomery   NAIA-D1
Avila   NAIA-D1
Azusa Pacific   NAIA-D1
Bacone   NAIA-D1
Baker   NAIA-D1
Belhaven   NAIA-D1
Benedictine (Kansas)   NAIA-D1
Bethel (Tenn.)   NAIA-D1
Biola   NAIA-D1
Blue Mountain   NAIA-D1
Bluefield   NAIA-D1
Brewton-Parker   NAIA-D1
Cal St. San Marcos   NAIA-D1
Campbellsville   NAIA-D1
Carroll Mt   NAIA-D1
Central Methodist   NAIA-D1
Columbia College   NAIA-D1
Concordia (Cal.)   NAIA-D1
Culver-Stockton   NAIA-D1
Cumberland   NAIA-D1
Dickinson State   NAIA-D1
Dillard   NAIA-D1
Edward Waters   NAIA-D1
Emmanuel (Ga.)   NAIA-D1
Evangel   NAIA-D1
Faulkner   NAIA-D1
Fisk   NAIA-D1
Freed-Hardeman   NAIA-D1
Georgetown   NAIA-D1
Graceland   NAIA-D1
Great Falls   NAIA-D1
Hannibal-Lagrange   NAIA-D1
Harris-Stowe   NAIA-D1
Hope International   NAIA-D1
Huston-Tillotson   NAIA-D1
Jarvis Christian   NAIA-D1
John Brown    NAIA-D1
Langston   NAIA-D1
Lewis-Clark State   NAIA-D1
Life   NAIA-D1
Lindsey Wilson   NAIA-D1
Loyola (N.O.)   NAIA-D1
LSU-Shreveport   NAIA-D1
Lyon   NAIA-D1
Martin Methodist   NAIA-D1
Master's   NAIA-D1
MidAmerica Nazarene   NAIA-D1
Mid-American Christian   NAIA-D1
Mid-Continent   NAIA-D1
Missouri Baptist   NAIA-D1
Missouri Valley   NAIA-D1
Mobile   NAIA-D1
Montana State-Northern   NAIA-D1
Montana Tech   NAIA-D1
Montana-Western   NAIA-D1
Morris   NAIA-D1
Oklahoma Baptist   NAIA-D1
Oklahoma City   NAIA-D1
Park   NAIA-D1
Paul Quinn   NAIA-D1
Peru State   NAIA-D1
Philander Smith   NAIA-D1
Pikeville   NAIA-D1
Rio Grande   NAIA-D1
Rocky Mountain   NAIA-D1
San Diego Christian   NAIA-D1
Science & Arts   NAIA-D1
Shawnee State   NAIA-D1
Southern Polytechnic   NAIA-D1
Southern Wesleyan   NAIA-D1
Southern-New Orleans   NAIA-D1
Southwest (N.M.)   NAIA-D1
Southwestern Assemblies   NAIA-D1
Spring Hill   NAIA-D1
St. Catharine   NAIA-D1
St. Gregory's   NAIA-D1
Talladega   NAIA-D1
Texas College   NAIA-D1
Texas Wesleyan   NAIA-D1
Tougaloo   NAIA-D1
Trevecca Nazarene   NAIA-D1
Vanguard   NAIA-D1
Voorhees   NAIA-D1
Wayland Baptist   NAIA-D1
West Virginia Tech   NAIA-D1
Westminster (Utah)   NAIA-D1
Westmont   NAIA-D1
Wiley   NAIA-D1
William Carey   NAIA-D1
William Woods   NAIA-D1
Williams Baptist   NAIA-D1
Xavier (La.)   NAIA-D1
AIB College of Business   NAIA-D2
Alice Lloyd   NAIA-D2
Aquinas   NAIA-D2
Asbury   NAIA-D2
Ashford   NAIA-D2
Ave Maria   NAIA-D2
Bellevue   NAIA-D2
Berea   NAIA-D2
Bethany (Kan.)   NAIA-D2
Bethel (Ind.)   NAIA-D2
Bethel (Kan.)   NAIA-D2
Brescia   NAIA-D2
Briar Cliff (Iowa)   NAIA-D2
Bryan   NAIA-D2
Cal Maritime   NAIA-D2
Calumet St. Joseph   NAIA-D2
Cardinal Stritch   NAIA-D2
Central Baptist   NAIA-D2
Central Christian   NAIA-D2
Cincinnati Christian   NAIA-D2
Clarke   NAIA-D2
College of Idaho   NAIA-D2
Concordia (Mi.)   NAIA-D2
Concordia (Neb.)   NAIA-D2
Concordia (Ore.)   NAIA-D2
Corban   NAIA-D2
Cornerstone   NAIA-D2
Dakota State   NAIA-D2
Dakota Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Davenport   NAIA-D2
Doane   NAIA-D2
Dordt   NAIA-D2
Eastern Oregon   NAIA-D2
Embry-Riddle   NAIA-D2
Evergreen St.   NAIA-D2
Fisher   NAIA-D2
Florida Memorial   NAIA-D2
Friends   NAIA-D2
Goshen   NAIA-D2
Grace   NAIA-D2
Grand View   NAIA-D2
Haskell   NAIA-D2
Hastings   NAIA-D2
Holy Cross   NAIA-D2
Huntington (Ind.)   NAIA-D2
Ind.-East   NAIA-D2
Indiana Southeast   NAIA-D2
Indiana Tech   NAIA-D2
Indiana Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Indiana-Kokomo   NAIA-D2
Indiana-Northwest   NAIA-D2
Indiana-Northwest   NAIA-D2
Indiana-South Bend   NAIA-D2
Jamestown   NAIA-D2
Johnson & Wales (Colo.)   NAIA-D2
Johnson & Wales (Fla.)   NAIA-D2
Judson   NAIA-D2
Kansas Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Kentucky Christian   NAIA-D2
La Sierra   NAIA-D2
Lawrence Tech   NAIA-D2
Madonna   NAIA-D2
Marian (Ind.)   NAIA-D2
Marygrove   NAIA-D2
Mayville State   NAIA-D2
McPherson   NAIA-D2
Menlo   NAIA-D2
Michigan-Dearborn   NAIA-D2
Midland   NAIA-D2
Milligan   NAIA-D2
Montreat   NAIA-D2
Morningside   NAIA-D2
Mount Marty   NAIA-D2
Mount Mercy   NAIA-D2
Mount Vernon Nazarene   NAIA-D2
Nebraska Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Northern New Mexico   NAIA-D2
Northwest (Wash.)   NAIA-D2
Northwest Christian   NAIA-D2
Northwestern (Iowa)   NAIA-D2
Northwestern Ohio   NAIA-D2
Northwood (Fla.)   NAIA-D2
Oklahoma Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Olivet Nazarene   NAIA-D2
Oregon Tech   NAIA-D2
Ottawa   NAIA-D2
Ozarks   NAIA-D2
Pacific Union   NAIA-D2
Point        NAIA-D2
Point Park   NAIA-D2
Presentation   NAIA-D2
Purdue-Calumet   NAIA-D2
Purdue-North Central   NAIA-D2
Reinhardt   NAIA-D2
Robert Morris (Chicago)   NAIA-D2
Roberts Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Roosevelt   NAIA-D2
Siena Heights   NAIA-D2
Simpson (Cal.)   NAIA-D2
Southeastern   NAIA-D2
Southern Oregon   NAIA-D2
Southwestern (Kan.)   NAIA-D2
Spring Arbor   NAIA-D2
St. Ambrose   NAIA-D2
St. Francis (Ill.)   NAIA-D2
St. Francis (Ind.)   NAIA-D2
St. Louis Pharmacy   NAIA-D2
St. Mary (Kan.)   NAIA-D2
St. Thomas (Fla.)   NAIA-D2
St. Thomas (Tx.)   NAIA-D2
St. Xavier   NAIA-D2
Sterling   NAIA-D2
Tabor   NAIA-D2
Taylor   NAIA-D2
Tennessee Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Trinity Christian   NAIA-D2
Trinity International   NAIA-D2
Truett-McConnell   NAIA-D2
UC-Merced   NAIA-D2
Union (Ky.)   NAIA-D2
Valley City State   NAIA-D2
Virginia Intermont   NAIA-D2
Viterbo   NAIA-D2
Waldorf   NAIA-D2
Walla Walla   NAIA-D2
Warner   NAIA-D2
Warner Pacific   NAIA-D2
Webber International   NAIA-D2
Wilberforce   NAIA-D2
William Jessup   NAIA-D2
William Penn   NAIA-D2
York (Neb.)   NAIA-D2


I'm not worried about 'dead' schools included.... but if I have any stupidly misplaced, let me know and I will correct....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on November 22, 2013, 02:18:49 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 02:07:41 PM
Here is where I have teams categorized... it is not necessarily all-inclusive, but at a minimum includes any teams playing a D3 school


Dallas Baptist   NCCAA-D1

Dallas Baptist is also NCAA-D2 and to make things more confusing I'll also throw out the fact that they're NCAA-D1 for baseball.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 03:33:34 PM
Looking at their site, they play in an NCAA-D2 conference... I'll make the change.. and hey, D3 E Texas Bap beat them!!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on November 22, 2013, 03:38:21 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 03:33:34 PM
Looking at their site, they play in an NCAA-D2 conference... I'll make the change.. and hey, D3 E Texas Bap beat them!!!!!
exhibition game though.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2013, 03:42:31 PM
just realized that... thanks....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2013, 04:17:02 PM
Oklahoma Christian U is provisional D-2 in the Heartland Conference.

(Just roll out the list hopefan and the rest of the posters will start proofreading it.   ;)  Kinda fun, isn't it.)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2013, 10:05:10 AM
Games of 11/22/13


Calvin (D3)  105    Kuyper (NCCAA-D2)  86
New England College (D3)  74    King's College NY (USCAA)  39
Maranatha Baptist (D3)  80    Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA-D2)  78
North Central (Minn.) (D3)  73    Moody Bible (NCCAA-D2)  60
Ohio Christian (NCCAA-D2)  90    Otterbein (D3)  71
Centre (D3)  80    Point Park (NAIA-D2)  76
Rochester Tech (D3)  87    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  66
Susquehanna (D3)  85    Penn St.- Wilkes Barre (USCAA)  67
Chapman (D3)  87    Menlo (NAIA-D2)  63
Minnesota-Moorhead (NCAA-D2)  102    Concordia-Moorhead (D3)  55
Manhattan Christian (NCCAA-D2)  62    Iowa Wesleyan (D3)  53
Maine-Machias (USCAA)  84    Maine Maritime (D3)  57
Incarnate Word (NCAA-D2)  80    Southwestern (D3)  61
Columbia International (NCCAA-D1)  74    William Peace (D3)  72


D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   0   4   
NCAA-D2   1   13   
NAIA-D1   5   3   
NAIA-D2   12   13   
NCCAA-D1   4   1   
NCCAA-D2   14   5   
USCAA   29   7   
Other   10   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   10   2   

If you follow this room, keep your eye on D3 vs NAIA-D2... that one is usually pretty close....

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2013, 10:11:02 AM
And here is a little add on... I'll show it every now and then

D3 vs non conference D3

1   WIAC      13   5   0.722
2   Newmac      18   7   0.720
3   UAA      15   6   0.714
4   ODAC      20   8   0.714
5   MIAC      12   5   0.706
6   NESCAC      23   10   0.697
7   Landmark      14   7   0.667
8   OAC      14   7   0.667
9   CCIW      13   7   0.650
10   MACC      16   9   0.640
11   NEAC      15   9   0.625
12   MWC      16   10   0.615
13   LL      14   10   0.583
14   IIAC      11   8   0.579
15   NJAC      11   8   0.579
16   NWC      12   9   0.571
17   MACF      12   9   0.571
18   CAC      14   11   0.560
19   SAA      11   9   0.550
20   ASC      6   5   0.545
21   LEC      12   10   0.545
22   PrAC      13   11   0.542
23   SCAC      8   7   0.533
24   HCAC      13   14   0.481
25   Sky      11   12   0.478
26   NCAC      7   8   0.467
27   CSAC      12   14   0.462
28   CCC      14   17   0.452
29   AMCC      10   13   0.435
30   Mascac      9   12   0.429
31   SCIAC      6   8   0.429
32   CUNY      10   14   0.417
33   Independent      5   7   0.417
34   CC      11   16   0.407
35   NATCH      6   9   0.400
36   NECC      10   16   0.385
37   GNAC      11   18   0.379
38   E8      9   15   0.375
39   USAC      8   14   0.364
40   UMAC      6   12   0.333
41   MIAA      5   11   0.313
42   NAC      4   11   0.267
43   SLIAC      5   16   0.238
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2013, 10:12:19 AM
yikes, my SLIAC boys are 43 out of 43.... :o :o :o

Magicman later pointed out an error... the SUNYAC is misidentified as the NEAC, and the NEAC is missing... will be corrected next time.....The NEAC actually comes out no 44!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 23, 2013, 05:02:45 PM
Wilmington defeated Miami (Ohio) today, 65-63. Coming to this board to find out when the last time was a D3 beat a D1. Can never remember from one to the next. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2013, 05:39:50 PM
Colorado College beat Air Force early in the 2010-11 season

When I monitored things in 2011-12, D3 was 0-45 vs D1

I don't know if we beat them in 2012-13  or not......
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2013, 07:58:14 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2013, 10:11:02 AM
And here is a little add on... I'll show it every now and then

D3 vs non conference D3

1   WIAC      13   5   0.722
2   Newmac      18   7   0.720
3   UAA      15   6   0.714
4   ODAC      20   8   0.714
5   MIAC      12   5   0.706
6   NESCAC      23   10   0.697
7   Landmark      14   7   0.667
8   OAC      14   7   0.667
9   CCIW      13   7   0.650
10   MACC      16   9   0.640
11   NEAC      15   9   0.625
12   MWC      16   10   0.615
13   LL      14   10   0.583
14   IIAC      11   8   0.579
15   NJAC      11   8   0.579
16   NWC      12   9   0.571
17   MACF      12   9   0.571
18   CAC      14   11   0.560
19   SAA      11   9   0.550
20   ASC      6   5   0.545
21   LEC      12   10   0.545
22   PrAC      13   11   0.542
23   SCAC      8   7   0.533
24   HCAC      13   14   0.481
25   Sky      11   12   0.478
26   NCAC      7   8   0.467
27   CSAC      12   14   0.462
28   CCC      14   17   0.452
29   AMCC      10   13   0.435
30   Mascac      9   12   0.429
31   SCIAC      6   8   0.429
32   CUNY      10   14   0.417
33   Independent      5   7   0.417
34   CC      11   16   0.407
35   NATCH      6   9   0.400
36   NECC      10   16   0.385
37   GNAC      11   18   0.379
38   E8      9   15   0.375
39   USAC      8   14   0.364
40   UMAC      6   12   0.333
41   MIAA      5   11   0.313
42   NAC      4   11   0.267
43   SLIAC      5   16   0.238

Do my eyes deceive me or did you leave out my SUNYAC conference. ??? I checked that list twice and unless you used some different initials to identify it, I can't find the YAC on it anywhere. :(  We were 14-9, I believe, heading into today's games. We were 1-3 today, so that would make us  15-12 overall vs D-3. Our actual record is 16-12 but 1 of those wins was against SUNY-Canton.

Speaking of SUNY-Canton, I didn't spot them in the massive list of teams that you posted earlier. When Potsdam State beat them back on 11-15 you posted the result of that game and said they were Ind-D3 Provisional.  Are you not going to give us the list of those teams as well? You're slipping ;D   I know Alfred State, Illnois Tech, Sarah Lawrence, and Valley Forge Christian were the teams that you listed as Ind-D3 Provisional that had played a game against a D3 team.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2013, 11:32:12 PM
Ugh   WHY is the SUNYAC missing... to the drawing board....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2013, 11:59:36 PM
 ;D ;D ;D  Magic   you'll appreciate this... the conference really missing is the NEAC... the SUNYAC is misidentified as the NEAC... and when I get the NEAC in, they come in dead LAST... replacing my boys from the SLIAC!!!!      Thanks for bringing to my attention...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2013, 12:31:12 AM
Ind-D3 Provisionals are Alfred State, Illinois Tech, Sarah Lawrence, SUNY-Canton, and Valley Forge Christian

Ind-D3 Exploratory are Bryn Athyn and Penn College

Remember, I have counted Centenary, Iowa Wesleyan, Houghton, and Southern Virginia as NCAA D3 teams because they play full conference schedule while still in a provisional status...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2013, 02:32:56 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2013, 11:59:36 PM
;D ;D ;D  Magic   you'll appreciate this... the conference really missing is the NEAC... the SUNYAC is misidentified as the NEAC... and when I get the NEAC in, they come in dead LAST... replacing my boys from the SLIAC!!!!      Thanks for bringing to my attention...

That's funny. I noticed the NEAC Conference was fairly high and mighty on that list of yours and was going to check on it as I found it hard to believe they could be doing that well.  But then I got sidetracked when I couldn't find the SUNYAC Conference anywhere. And then I was further sidetracked when I discovered the error on the scoreboard of 11-19 that omitted the Alfred State score which led to my e-mail to you. I completely forgot that I wanted to check out the NEAC, as I thought they should be at the other end of that list. I should score mucho bonus points with you for kicking your guys up a notch :D and  thus avoiding the bottom rung of the ladder. 8-)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2013, 12:11:02 PM
Games of 11/23/13

Calvin (D3)  97    College of Faith (Other)  81
Colby (D3)  96    Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA)  55
Johnson State (D3)  92    King's College NY (USCAA)  46
Manhattan Christian (NCCAA-D2)  79    Maranatha Baptist (D3)  78
Clarke (NAIA-D2)  100    Buena Vista (D3)  94
Keuka (D3)  101    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  72
Trinity (Conn.) (D3)  63    Penn St.- Wilkes Barre (USCAA)  60
Alfred (D3)  100    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  96
Goshen (NAIA-D2)  73    Bluffton (D3)  71
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA-D2)  93    Houghton (D3)  74
Iowa Wesleyan (D3)  80    Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA-D2)  78
MacMurray (D3)  122    St. Louis Christian (Other)  66
Bryan (NAIA-D2)  72    Maryville (Tenn.) (D3)  70
Northland (D3)  76    Crossroads (NCCAA-D2)  57
Occidental (D3)  79    St. Katherine (Other)  69
Purdue-Calumet (NAIA-D2)  86    Olivet (D3)  63
Westmont (NAIA-D1)  77    Pomona-Pitzer (D3)  69
Bemidji State (NCAA-D2)  103    St. Scholastica (D3)  56
Washington and Jefferson (D3)  88    Penn St.-Fayette (USCAA)  73
Wilmington (D3)  65    Miami (Ohio) (NCAA-D1)  63
Bethany (D3)  102    Penn St.-Dubois (USCAA)  63
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1)  108    Westminster (Pa.) (D3)  57
Texas Lutheran (D3)  97    Southwestern Adventist (Other)  83
Evansville (NCAA-D1)  91    Anderson (D3)  68
Ohio University (NCAA-D1)  85    Heidelberg (D3)  57
Ashford (NAIA-D2)  63    North Central (Minn.) (D3)  45
Oglethorpe (D3)  90    Toccoa Falls (NCCAA-D2)  53
Montreat (NAIA-D2)  103    Averett (D3)  100
SUNY-Cobleskill (D3)  74    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  67


D3 versus         
               W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   7   
NCAA-D2   1   14   
NAIA-D1   5   4   
NAIA-D2   12   20   
NCCAA-D1   4   1   
NCCAA-D2   17   6   
USCAA   34   7   
Other   14   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   5   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   12   2   

Wow... very bad night vs NAIA D2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2013, 12:15:07 PM
New vs non conference D3      and corrected!!! ;)

1   WIAC      17   6   0.739
2   NESCAC      27   11   0.711
3   OAC      19   8   0.704
4   Newmac      21   9   0.700
5   ODAC      23   10   0.697
6   MIAC      16   7   0.696
7   MACC      22   10   0.688
8   UAA      19   9   0.679
9   Landmark      16   10   0.615
10   LEC      17   11   0.607
11   PrAC      17   12   0.586
12   IIAC      14   10   0.583
13   NJAC      11   8   0.579
14   SCAC      12   9   0.571
15   LL      16   12   0.571
16   MWC      16   12   0.571
17   SAA      16   12   0.571
18   SUNY      16   12   0.571
19   CAC      17   13   0.567
20   CCIW      15   12   0.556
21   MACF      15   12   0.556
22   NATCH      12   10   0.545
23   NWC      14   13   0.519
24   E8      15   15   0.500
25   Sky      15   15   0.500
26   CSAC      16   17   0.485
27   HCAC      14   15   0.483
28   ASC      7   9   0.438
29   NCAC      9   12   0.429
30   Mascac      11   15   0.423
31   Independent      7   10   0.412
32   CCC      16   23   0.410
33   CC      11   16   0.407
34   SCIAC      7   11   0.389
35   NECC      13   21   0.382
36   USAC      11   18   0.379
37   AMCC      12   20   0.375
38   CUNY      10   17   0.370
39   UMAC      8   14   0.364
40   GNAC      13   23   0.361
41   MIAA      6   13   0.316
42   NAC      6   13   0.316
43   SLIAC      7   20   0.259
44   NEAC      6   20   0.231
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2013, 10:12:28 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 24, 2013, 12:15:07 PM
New vs non conference D3      and corrected!!! ;)

1   WIAC      17   6   0.739
2   NESCAC      27   11   0.711
3   OAC      19   8   0.704
4   Newmac      21   9   0.700
5   ODAC      23   10   0.697
6   MIAC      16   7   0.696
7   MACC      22   10   0.688
8   UAA      19   9   0.679
9   Landmark      16   10   0.615
10   LEC      17   11   0.607
11   PrAC      17   12   0.586
12   IIAC      14   10   0.583
13   NJAC      11   8   0.579
14   SCAC      12   9   0.571  SUNY      16   12   0.571
15   LL      16   12   0.571
16   MWC      16   12   0.571
17   SAA      16   12   0.571
18   SUNY      16   12   0.571  SCAC      12   9   0.571 
19   CAC      17   13   0.567
20   CCIW      15   12   0.556
21   MACF      15   12   0.556
22   NATCH      12   10   0.545
23   NWC      14   13   0.519
24   E8      15   15   0.500
25   Sky      15   15   0.500
26   CSAC      16   17   0.485
27   HCAC      14   15   0.483
28   ASC      7   9   0.438
29   NCAC      9   12   0.429
30   Mascac      11   15   0.423
31   Independent      7   10   0.412
32   CCC      16   23   0.410
33   CC      11   16   0.407
34   SCIAC      7   11   0.389
35   NECC      13   21   0.382
36   USAC      11   18   0.379
37   AMCC      12   20   0.375
38   CUNY      10   17   0.370
39   UMAC      8   14   0.364
40   GNAC      13   23   0.361
41   MIAA      6   13   0.316
42   NAC      6   13   0.316
43   SLIAC      7   20   0.259
44   NEAC      6   20   0.231

hopefan,

I believe that NOW it's correct. ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2013, 10:42:04 PM
Games of 11/24/13


Colby (D3)  87    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  71
Clarke (NAIA-D2)  73    UW-Oshkosh (D3)  57
Concordia (Cal.) (NAIA-D1)  87    Lewis and Clark (D3)  67

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   7   
NCAA-D2   1   14   
NAIA-D1   5   5   
NAIA-D2   13   21   
NCCAA-D1   4   1   
NCCAA-D2   17   6   
USCAA   34   7   
Other   14   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   5   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   12   2   
         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2013, 03:32:30 AM
Games of 11/26/13

Southeastern (NAIA-D2)  107    Franklin (D3)  97
Piedmont (D3)  76    Truett-McConnell (NAIA-D2)  73
Polytechnic (D3)  76    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  75
UW-La Crosse (D3)  68    Viterbo (NAIA-D2)  59
Whittier (D3)  86    West Coast Baptist (NCCAA-D2)  82
Auburn Montgomery (NAIA-D1)  89    Huntingdon (D3)  73

D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   7   
NCAA-D2   1   14   
NAIA-D1   5   6   
NAIA-D2   15   22   
NCCAA-D1   4   1   
NCCAA-D2   18   6   
USCAA   34   7   
Other   14   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   5   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   13   2   


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2013, 10:00:09 AM
Games of 11/26/13


Siena Heights (NAIA-D2)  66    Adrian (D3)  53
Berry (D3)  80    Columbia International (NCCAA-D1)  67
Arizona Christian (NAIA-D1)  71    Chapman (D3)  59
Chicago (D3)  109    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  46
Bluefield (NAIA-D1)  99    Emory and Henry (D3)  70
Eckerd (NCAA-D2)  94    Franklin (D3)  77
Greenville (D3)  82    St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA-D2)  69
George Fox (D3)  95    Corban (NAIA-D2)  82
Silver Lake (USCAA)  94    Northland (D3)  76
Fisher (NAIA-D2)  72    University of New England (D3)  53
Malone (NCAA-D2)  92    Waynesburg (D3)  70
William Peace (D3)  107    Mid-Atlantic Christian (USCAA)  74
William Woods (NAIA-D1)  88    Principia (D3)  67
Texas Lutheran (D3)  84    Huston-Tillotson (NAIA-D1)  78
Sewanee (D3)  82    Toccoa Falls (NCCAA-D2)  63
Virginia Wesleyan (D3)  103    The Apprentice School (USCAA)  68
Cal Lutheran (D3)  84    Pacifica (Other)  60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2013, 10:13:37 AM
Games of 11/27/13


Western Oregon (NCAA-D2)  88    Willamette (D3)  77
William Penn (NAIA-D2)  84    Simpson (D3)  74
St. Francis (N.Y.) (NCAA-D1)  83    Mount St. Vincent (D3)  54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 28, 2013, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 28, 2013, 10:00:09 AM
Games of 11/26/13


Siena Heights (NAIA-D2)  66    Adrian (D3)  53
Berry (D3)  80    Columbia International (NCCAA-D1)  67
Arizona Christian (NAIA-D1)  71    Chapman (D3)  59
Chicago (D3)  109    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  46
Bluefield (NAIA-D1)  99    Emory and Henry (D3)  70
Eckerd (NCAA-D2)  94    Franklin (D3)  77
Greenville (D3)  82    St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA-D2) 69
George Fox (D3)  95    Corban (NAIA-D2)  82
Silver Lake (USCAA)  94    Northland (D3)  76
Fisher (NAIA-D2)  72    University of New England (D3)  53
Malone (NCAA-D2)  92    Waynesburg (D3)  70
William Peace (D3)  107    Mid-Atlantic Christian (USCAA)  74
William Woods (NAIA-D1)  88    Principia (D3)  67
Texas Lutheran (D3)  84    Huston-Tillotson (NAIA-D1)  78
Sewanee (D3)  82    Toccoa Falls (NCCAA-D2)  63
Virginia Wesleyan (D3)  103    The Apprentice School (USCAA)  68
Cal Lutheran (D3)  84    Pacifica (Other)  60

See bold above. I had no idea St. Louis Pharmacy was NAIA. Has that been so for very long?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2013, 10:32:33 AM
Yjak... I looked back at 2011-12 scores and they were listed as NAIA-D2 then also... not sure when they became members... Their site confirms....

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving....  sorry you had to miss the Elmhurst game.. it was a good one....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2013, 10:48:44 AM
A couple of scores that got missed...

11/20/13   George Fox  (D3)  87  Portland Bible  NCCAA-D2  66

11/23/13    Concordia (Ore.)  NAIA-D2  108   George Fox  (D3)  99

D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   8   
NCAA-D2   1   17   
NAIA-D1   6   9   
NAIA-D2   17   26   
NCCAA-D1   5   1   
NCCAA-D2   20   6   
USCAA   36   8   
Other   15   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   5   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   14   2   
         

D3 vs D3 out of conference

1   NESCAC      31   13   0.705
2   WIAC      21   9   0.700
3   UAA      23   10   0.697
4   ODAC      27   12   0.692
5   MACC      21   10   0.677
6   Newmac      25   13   0.658
7   OAC      21   11   0.656
8   CCIW      20   11   0.645
9   MIAC      20   11   0.645
10   Landmark      19   11   0.633
11   PrAC      18   11   0.621
12   LEC      22   14   0.611
13   SAA      16   12   0.571
14   IIAC      17   13   0.567
15   MWC      16   13   0.552
16   NJAC      12   10   0.545
17   SCAC      13   11   0.542
18   LL      15   14   0.517
19   E8      18   17   0.514
20   SUNY      18   17   0.514
21   CSAC      19   18   0.514
22   NWC      13   13   0.500
23   CAC      20   20   0.500
24   Sky      18   18   0.500
25   HCAC      17   18   0.486
26   MACF      15   16   0.484
27   ASC      9   10   0.474
28   NATCH      15   17   0.469
29   NCAC      13   16   0.448
30   CCC      21   26   0.447
31   Mascac      13   18   0.419
32   CC      11   16   0.407
33   CUNY      11   17   0.393
34   SCIAC      7   12   0.368
35   AMCC      13   23   0.361
36   Independent      6   11   0.353
37   NECC      14   27   0.341
38   GNAC      14   27   0.341
39   USAC      11   22   0.333
40   NAC      7   15   0.318
41   MIAA      6   15   0.286
42   UMAC      6   17   0.261
43   SLIAC      7   25   0.219
44   NEAC      3   20   0.130

To anyone looking closely at D3 vs D3.. found an error, so w/l changed in some cases...

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 28, 2013, 11:16:19 AM
The HCAC has only lost 2 more non conference basketball games than the football teams did... slightly higher win percentage for basketball though ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 30, 2013, 06:21:14 AM
Games of 11/29/13


Cornerstone (NAIA-D2)  85    Calvin (D3)  66
Hope (D3)  69    Aquinas (NAIA-D2)  67
Mass-Boston (D3)  84    St. Joseph's (Vt.) (USCAA)  68
Luther (D3)  96    Barclay (Other)  49
Central (D3)  88    Northwestern (Iowa) (NAIA-D2)  74
Willamette (D3)  78    Corban (NAIA-D2)  54

D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   8   
NCAA-D2   1   17   
NAIA-D1   6   9   
NAIA-D2   20   27   
NCCAA-D1   5   1   
NCCAA-D2   20   6   
USCAA   37   8   
Other   16   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   5   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   14   2   
         

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: warriorcat on November 30, 2013, 06:37:56 PM
D I vs D III 

Bryant 82
Salve Regina 55

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2013, 08:51:52 AM
Games of 11/30

Carnegie Mellon (D3)  106    Penn St.-New Kensington (USCAA)  82
Calvin (D3)  77    Aquinas (NAIA-D2)  55
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2)  79    Hope (D3)  73
Emerson (D3)  80    St. Joseph's (Vt.) (USCAA)  74
Luther (D3)  79    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  65
UW-Stout (D3)  56    Ashford (NAIA-D2)  41
Adrian (D3)  75    Marygrove (NAIA-D2)  46
Dordt (NAIA-D2)  98    Central (D3)  76
Dubuque (D3)  75    Clarke (NAIA-D2)  64
Concordia (Ore.) (NAIA-D2)  103    Lewis and Clark (D3)  94
Bethesda (NCCAA-D1)  78    Occidental (D3)  68
Bryant (NCAA-D1)  82    Salve Regina (D3)  55
Swarthmore (D3)  72    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  57
Nebraska-Omaha (NCAA-D1)  86    Iowa Wesleyan (D3)  36
Western Illinois (NCAA-D1)  76    Greenville (D3)  49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2013, 10:42:31 PM
Games of 12/1/13

Springfield (D3)  109    Penn St.-New Kensington (USCAA)  62
UW-River Falls (D3)  79    Ashford (NAIA-D2)  66
Michigan-Dearborn (NAIA-D2)  54    Adrian (D3)  45
Moravian (D3)  83    Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  79
Mass-Lowell (NCAA-D2)  73    Mount Ida (D3)  45
The Apprentice School (USCAA)  62    St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) (D3)  56
Baylor (NCAA-D1)  104    Hardin-Simmons (D3)  59
Sul Ross State (D3)  78    Southwest (N.M.) (NAIA-D1)  46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2013, 08:44:32 PM
Games of 12/2/13


Delaware State (NCAA-D1)  72    Baptist Bible (D3)  47
Roosevelt (NAIA-D2)  78    Maranatha Baptist (D3)  60
Texas Lutheran (D3)  69    Dallas Christian (NCCAA-D2)  67
Sul Ross State (D3)  78    Southwest (N.M.) (NAIA-D1)  46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 04, 2013, 07:13:29 AM


Games of 12/3/13

Asbury (NAIA-D2)  87    Centre (D3)  81
Westmont (NAIA-D1)  46    Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (D3)  45
Concordia (Ill.) (D3)  93    Silver Lake (USCAA)  69
Virginia Intermont (NAIA-D2)  82    Emory and Henry (D3)  71
Houghton (D3)  80    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  58
Lancaster Bible (D3)  72    Valley Forge Christian (Ind-D3 Provisional)  63
Minnesota-Morris (D3)  80    Mayville State (NAIA-D2)  75
Pacific (D3)  97    New Hope Christian (NCCAA-D1)  63
William Peace (D3)  85    St. Andrews (NCAA-D2)  82
Johnson and Wales (N.C.) (USCAA)  93    Greensboro (D3)  90
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) (D3)  90    King's College NY (USCAA)  39

D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   13   
NCAA-D2   2   18   
NAIA-D1   8   10   
NAIA-D2   26   34   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   21   6   
USCAA   43   10   
Other   16   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   6   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   17   2   


D3 vs Non Conference D3

1   UAA      33   11   0.750
2   NESCAC      43   15   0.741
3   WIAC      27   12   0.692
4   ODAC      31   14   0.689
5   CCIW      25   12   0.676
6   MACC      25   13   0.658
7   OAC      25   14   0.641
8   Newmac      29   17   0.630
9   Landmark      22   14   0.611
10   PrAC      22   14   0.611
11   MIAC      23   15   0.605
12   NJAC      18   12   0.600
13   LEC      27   19   0.587
14   IIAC      20   15   0.571
15   SAA      20   15   0.571
16   SCAC      17   13   0.567
17   CAC      25   21   0.543
18   MWC      17   15   0.531
19   LL      20   18   0.526
20   NWC      17   16   0.515
21   MACF      19   18   0.514
22   SUNY      20   21   0.488
23   CSAC      20   21   0.488
24   ASC      10   11   0.476
25   Sky      18   20   0.474
26   NATCH      15   17   0.469
27   E8      20   23   0.465
28   HCAC      19   23   0.452
29   NCAC      17   21   0.447
30   CCC      21   27   0.438
31   CC      13   18   0.419
32   SCIAC      10   14   0.417
33   Mascac      13   23   0.361
34   AMCC      15   27   0.357
35   GNAC      16   29   0.356
36   CUNY      11   20   0.355
37   NECC      14   28   0.333
38   NAC      9   18   0.333
39   USAC      13   28   0.317
40   MIAA      8   18   0.308
41   UMAC      8   22   0.267
42   Independent      6   19   0.240
43   SLIAC      8   27   0.229
44   NEAC      5   24   0.172


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2013, 10:29:09 PM
Games of 12/4/13

Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA-D2)  70    Nazareth (D3)  68
Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  87    Bard (D3)  75
Vaughn (USCAA)  97    Brooklyn (D3)  93
Cardinal Stritch (NAIA-D2)  70    Carthage (D3)  69
William Penn (NAIA-D2)  92    Central (D3)  67
Utica (D3)  103    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  86
Simpson (D3)  82    AIB College of Business (NAIA-D2)  76
Loyola (Md.) (NCAA-D1)  87    Catholic (D3)  75
St. Vincent (D3)  113    Penn St.-New Kensington (USCAA)  68
Emerson (D3)  77    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  60
Rust (D3)  92    Bethel (Tenn.) (NAIA-D1)  85
Colorado College (D3)  71    Johnson & Wales (Colo.) (NAIA-D2)  56

D3 versus         
   W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   14   
NCAA-D2   2   18   
NAIA-D1   9   10   
NAIA-D2   29   37   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   21   6   
USCAA   44   12   
Other   16   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   6   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   18   2   
         
         


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2013, 05:47:57 AM

Games of 12/5/13


Centre (D3)  81    Brescia (NAIA-D2)  62
Maine Maritime (D3)  82    Maine-Augusta (USCAA)  74
Arlington Baptist (NCCAA-D2)  82    University of Dallas (D3)  79
UC Riverside (NCAA-D1)  92    La Verne (D3)  77
Coastal Carolina (NCAA-D1)  89    North Carolina Wesleyan (D3)  54
Whittier (D3)  87    St. Katherine (Other)  72

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   16   
NCAA-D2   2   18   
NAIA-D1   9   10   
NAIA-D2   30   37   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   21   7   
USCAA   45   12   
Other   17   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   6   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   18   2   
         

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2013, 11:29:08 AM
Games of 12/6/13


Gallaudet (D3)  72    Maryland Bible (Other)  46
Lynchburg (D3)  94    Valley Forge Christian (Ind-D3 Provisional)  70
Multnomah (NCCAA-D2)  126    Maranatha Baptist (D3)  93
Southern Vermont (D3)  74    St. Joseph's (Vt.) (USCAA)  64
Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA-D2)  62    Rochester (D3)  60
Houghton (D3)  104    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  89
Minnesota-Morris (D3)  57    Presentation (NAIA-D2)  48
York (N.Y.) (D3)  107    Vaughn (USCAA)  60


D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   16   
NCAA-D2   2   18   
NAIA-D1   9   10   
NAIA-D2   31   38   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   21   8   
USCAA   47   12   
Other   18   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   6   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   20   2   


D3 vs non conference D3

1   UAA      35   12   0.745
2   NESCAC      44   17   0.721
3   CCIW      30   12   0.714
4   ODAC      32   14   0.696
5   WIAC      27   12   0.692
6   Newmac      34   17   0.667
7   MACC      25   13   0.658
8   OAC      25   14   0.641
9   LEC      31   19   0.620
10   PrAC      22   14   0.611
11   MIAC      23   15   0.605
12   NJAC      18   12   0.600
13   Landmark      22   15   0.595
14   SAA      21   15   0.583
15   SCAC      18   13   0.581
16   IIAC      22   16   0.579
17   CAC      26   22   0.542
18   MWC      17   15   0.531
19   NWC      18   16   0.529
20   MACF      19   18   0.514
21   LL      23   22   0.511
22   SUNY      23   22   0.511
23   CSAC      20   21   0.488
24   ASC      10   11   0.476
25   Sky      18   20   0.474
26   NATCH      15   17   0.469
27   E8      22   25   0.468
28   HCAC      19   23   0.452
29   NCAC      17   21   0.447
30   CCC      21   27   0.438
31   CC      13   18   0.419
32   SCIAC      10   14   0.417
33   CUNY      13   21   0.382
34   GNAC      17   30   0.362
35   AMCC      15   27   0.357
36   Mascac      14   29   0.326
37   NAC      9   19   0.321
38   NECC      15   32   0.319
39   USAC      13   31   0.295
40   MIAA      8   22   0.267
41   UMAC      9   25   0.265
42   Independent      7   21   0.250
43   SLIAC      9   28   0.243
44   NEAC      5   25   0.167


         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on December 07, 2013, 12:04:18 PM
Thanks for the work here, hopefan...this is a great thread!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 08, 2013, 10:14:34 AM
Games of 12/7/13


Connecticut College (D3)  91    Maine-Presque Isle (USCAA)  61
Norwich (D3)  93    Maine-Augusta (USCAA)  74
St. Joseph's (Vt.) (USCAA)  97    Massachusetts College (D3)  89
Brockport State (D3)  81    Roberts Wesleyan (NAIA-D2)  52
Coe (D3)  99    Mount Mercy (NAIA-D2)  97
Viterbo (NAIA-D2)  71    Luther (D3)  68
Trine (D3)  87    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  33
Sewanee (D3)  68    Boyce (NCCAA-D2)  64
North Central (Minn.) (D3)  87    Trinity Bible (NCCAA-D2)  86
Liberty (NCAA-D1)  84    Greensboro (D3)  47
Maranatha Baptist (D3) 95  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2) 89

D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   17   
NCAA-D2   2   18   
NAIA-D1   9   10   
NAIA-D2   33   39   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   23   8   
USCAA   49   13   
Other   18   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   6   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   21   2

   
D3 vs Non conference D3         

1   NESCAC      47   19   0.712
2   UAA      37   15   0.712
3   ODAC      33   14   0.702
4   WIAC      27   12   0.692
5   Newmac      39   18   0.684
6   CCIW      31   15   0.674
7   MACC      25   13   0.658
8   OAC      25   14   0.641
9   LEC      31   19   0.620
10   PrAC      22   14   0.611
11   MIAC      23   15   0.605
12   NJAC      18   12   0.600
13   Landmark      22   15   0.595
14   IIAC      24   17   0.585
15   SCAC      19   14   0.576
16   SAA      22   17   0.564
17   NWC      19   16   0.543
18   CAC      26   22   0.542
19   MWC      17   15   0.531
20   SUNY      24   22   0.522
21   MACF      19   18   0.514
22   E8      26   26   0.500
23   CSAC      20   21   0.488
24   ASC      10   11   0.476
25   LL      24   27   0.471
26   NATCH      15   17   0.469
27   Sky      18   21   0.462
28   HCAC      19   23   0.452
29   NCAC      17   21   0.447
30   CCC      21   27   0.438
31   CC      13   18   0.419
32   SCIAC      10   14   0.417
33   CUNY      13   21   0.382
34   GNAC      17   30   0.362
35   AMCC      15   28   0.349
36   NECC      16   32   0.333
37   MIAA      11   23   0.324
38   NAC      9   19   0.321
39   Mascac      15   32   0.319
40   USAC      15   32   0.319
41   SLIAC      11   29   0.275
42   UMAC      10   28   0.263
43   Independent      7   23   0.233
44   NEAC      5   26   0.161



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2013, 08:19:06 PM
Games of 12/8/13

Maine-Presque Isle (USCAA)  81    St. Joseph's (L.I.) (D3)  75
Worcester State (D3)  96    Maine-Augusta (USCAA)  56
Alfred (D3)  115    Penn College (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  61
Central Missouri (NCAA-D2)  88    MacMurray (D3)  58
Missouri S&T (NCAA-D2)  95    Webster (D3)  79
Polytechnic (D3)  79    SUNY-ESF (USCAA)  66
Bard (D3)  68    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  59
Green Mountain (D3)  88    Unity (USCAA)  73

D3 versus      
              W   L
NCAA-D1   1   17
NCAA-D2   2   20
NAIA-D1   9   10
NAIA-D2   33   39
NCCAA-D1   6   2
NCCAA-D2   23   8
USCAA   52   14
Other   18   0
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   0
IND-D3 Provisional   22   2

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: pjunito on December 10, 2013, 10:54:56 AM
Albertus Magnus will play at Central Connecticut State University (NCAA D1) on January 29 at 1pm
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on December 10, 2013, 03:22:02 PM
Manchester played Butler (Division 1) last night December 9.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 10, 2013, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: 7express on December 10, 2013, 03:22:02 PM
Manchester played Butler (Division 1) last night December 9.

"Played" in a loose sense of the word.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 10, 2013, 11:07:11 PM
QuotePolytechnic (D3)  79    SUNY-ESF (USCAA)  66

Though I worked for the State of New York for four years and covered the SUNYAC closely for a while, I've wondered what SUNY-ESF was.  So I did a google search and found this.
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.esf.edu%2Fcommunications%2Fnews%2Fnewsimg%2F2010%2F01.22.oakie%2FOakie21.jpg&hash=8009d9f8986d195e09b2a066ee8a1003e3faee7d)

There's a whole photo gallery of Oakie, the mascot for the SUNY College of Environmental Science & Forestry Might Oaks. Gosh, I love the internet sometimes.

http://www.esf.edu/communications/view.asp?newsID=321#/communications/news/newsimg/2010/01.22.oakie/Oakie21.jpg
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 10, 2013, 11:23:14 PM
I'm dating myself by posting this, but, when I was a kid back in the '70s, the old Syracuse Herald-Journal used to publish game capsules for ESF basketball games. The Orangemen drew most of the attention in the Salt City every winter, of course, but there would still be that brief writeup after every game for ESF and LeMoyne in the SHJ.

Heck, I can remember when the Tangerines (the Syracuse University JV team) would get SHJ capsule writeups in the early '70s. That was when Jim Boeheim coached the Tangerines, under the overall tutelage of his mentor, SU head coach Roy Danforth.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 11, 2013, 05:38:21 AM
games of 12/9/13

Carthage (D3)  68    Silver Lake (USCAA)  56
Geneseo State (D3)  117    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  43
Butler (NCAA-D1)  100    Manchester (D3)  41

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 11, 2013, 06:13:53 AM
Games of 12/10/13


Lees-McRae (NCAA-D2)  78    Emory and Henry (D3)  64
Fisher (NAIA-D2)  86    Framingham State (D3)  75
Texas Lutheran (D3)  81    Open Bible (Other)  66
Wartburg (D3)  97    Crossroads (NCCAA-D2)  54
Northern Colorado (NCAA-D1)  96    Colorado College (D3)  57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2013, 06:38:12 AM
Games of 12/11/13

Eureka (D3)  93    Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D2)  63
Olivet (D3)  108    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  50
Puget Sound (D3)  77    Evergreen St. (NAIA-D2)  65
Southern Virginia (D3)  76    The Apprentice School (USCAA)  69
University of Dallas (D3)  86    Southwestern Adventist (Other)  66
Johnson and Wales (N.C.) (USCAA)  76    Averett (D3)  72
Drew (D3)  81    Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  69
Wayne State (Mi.) (NCAA-D2)  74    Kalamazoo (D3)  66
Cal Lutheran (D3)  78    St. Katherine (Other)  76

D3 versus      
                W   L
NCAA-D1   1   19
NCAA-D2   2   22
NAIA-D1   9   10
NAIA-D2   34   40
NCCAA-D1   6   2
NCCAA-D2   25   8
USCAA   55   15
Other   21   0
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   0
IND-D3 Provisional   24   2


D3 vs Non Conference D3

1   ODAC      34   14   0.708
2   NESCAC      53   22   0.707
3   UAA      41   18   0.695
4   Newmac      44   20   0.688
5   WIAC      27   13   0.675
6   CCIW      33   16   0.673
7   MACC      25   13   0.658
8   OAC      25   14   0.641
9   LEC      34   20   0.630
10   NJAC      20   13   0.606
11   PrAC      23   15   0.605
12   MIAC      24   16   0.600
13   SAA      25   17   0.595
14   SCAC      20   14   0.588
15   IIAC      25   18   0.581
16   Landmark      23   17   0.575
17   MACF      22   18   0.550
18   NWC      19   16   0.543
19   MWC      17   15   0.531
20   CAC      26   23   0.531
21   SUNY      24   22   0.522
22   E8      28   27   0.509
23   LL      26   28   0.481
24   NATCH      15   17   0.469
25   HCAC      21   24   0.467
26   CSAC      20   23   0.465
27   Sky      20   23   0.465
28   ASC      10   12   0.455
29   NCAC      19   23   0.452
30   CC      14   18   0.438
31   CCC      21   29   0.420
32   SCIAC      10   14   0.417
33   CUNY      14   23   0.378
34   GNAC      18   31   0.367
35   AMCC      15   29   0.341
36   NECC      17   34   0.333
37   MIAA      12   24   0.333
38   USAC      16   33   0.327
39   NAC      10   23   0.303
40   Mascac      16   37   0.302
41   UMAC      12   30   0.286
42   SLIAC      11   29   0.275
43   Independent      8   26   0.235
44   NEAC      5   28   0.152



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2013, 03:25:25 AM
games of 12/12/13


Bard (D3)  76    Albany Pharmacy (Other)  64
Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  73    Delaware Valley (D3)  67
Olivet (D3)  103    Lawrence Tech (NAIA-D2)  102
Dakota State (NAIA-D2)  83    Martin Luther (D3)  44

D3 versus      
                W   L
NCAA-D1   1   19
NCAA-D2   2   22
NAIA-D1   9   10
NAIA-D2   35   41
NCCAA-D1   6   2
NCCAA-D2   25   8
USCAA   55   15
Other   22   0
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   1    Bryn Athyn win over Del Val last night
IND-D3 Provisional   24   2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2013, 12:02:24 PM
Scores of 12/13/13

Eastern Mennonite (D3)  85    Virginia Intermont (NAIA-D2)  56
Rowan (D3)  91    Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA)  66
Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  71    Rutgers-Camden (D3)  64
Chapman (D3)  90    West Coast Baptist (NCCAA-D2)  65
Johnson and Wales (D3)  93    Johnson & Wales (Colo.) (NAIA-D2)  64
Minnesota-Morris (D3)  74    Mayville State (NAIA-D2)  72
Pacifica (Other)  72    La Verne (D3)  65


D3 versus         
               W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   19   
NCAA-D2   2   22   
NAIA-D1   9   10   
NAIA-D2   38   41   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   26   8   
USCAA   56   16   
Other   22   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   1   
IND-D3 Provisional   24   2   

NOTICE  D3  3-0 vs NAIA D2 last night... pull to within 3 games of .500
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 14, 2013, 12:30:44 PM

Why the heck is Rowan playing Maine-Ft. Kent?  Why would that ever happen?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 14, 2013, 01:59:31 PM
It's a tournament at Rowan. A lot of times you grab a lower-level team to fill out the card.

Rowan probably gave them a travel allowance and some hotel rooms and pizzas. That's typical.

Here at CWU we trade out with local hotels for rooms for visiting teams and recruits, and the local pizza joints (and wings place) are sponsors for food trade out. Makes my job a bit...interesting...since there are also some contributions to the scholarship programs.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 14, 2013, 04:43:07 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 14, 2013, 12:30:44 PM

Why the heck is Rowan playing Maine-Ft. Kent?  Why would that ever happen?

Maine-Fort Kent is also playing Rochester College of Michigan on back-to-back days in January......in Montreal.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 14, 2013, 05:11:29 PM

I was just wondering why they'd go for a non-d3 team that' ten hours away.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 14, 2013, 07:02:02 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 14, 2013, 05:11:29 PM

I was just wondering why they'd go for a non-d3 team that' ten hours away.

Sometimes you have to take any team that's willing to show up. That's been particularly true in recent years, as it seems that more and more tournaments have a hard time filling their fields. Perhaps this is just an anecdotal observation on my part, but it seems as though there's an increasing number of D3-hosted tourneys that have to add obscure USCAA hyphen schools or NCCAA Bible schools to the field in order to fill out the four slots.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 14, 2013, 07:25:04 PM
I'm sure Fort Kent is making a long weekend out of it, see the sights, play a little basketball.

Also interesting to note.  Rowan has played in two tournaments this year one at Widener and their own, both have had Berkeley College of New Jersey.


Something weird going on with Rowan's whole tournament.
http://www.rowanathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball&
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 14, 2013, 09:02:03 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 14, 2013, 05:11:29 PM

I was just wondering why they'd go for a non-d3 team that' ten hours away.

You don't always get the games you want - you get the games you have.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2013, 06:22:03 AM
Games of 12/14/13


Bridgewater (Va.) (D3)  84    Virginia Intermont (NAIA-D2)  76
Wilkes (D3)  67    Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA)  63
Centenary (La.) (D3)  93    Open Bible (Other)  73
Concordia (Cal.) (NAIA-D1)  66    Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (D3)  60
George Fox (D3)  94    Corban (NAIA-D2)  84
Johnson and Wales (D3)  85    Johnson & Wales (Fla.) (NAIA-D2)  66
Northwest Christian (NAIA-D2)  73    Linfield (D3)  57
North Carolina Wesleyan (D3)  91    Mid-Atlantic Christian (USCAA)  50
St. Martin's (NCAA-D2)  74    Pacific Lutheran (D3)  64
Texas A&M Kingsville (NCAA-D2)  79    Schreiner (D3)  67
UW-Eau Claire (D3)  64    Ashford (NAIA-D2)  63
North Central (Minn.) (D3)  104    Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA-D2)  74
Cal Lutheran (D3)  96    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  48
Northwestern State (La.) (NCAA-D1)  116    Louisiana College (D3)  76

D3 versus         
               W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   20   
NCAA-D2   2   24   
NAIA-D1   9   11   
NAIA-D2   42   42   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   27   8   
USCAA   58   16   
Other   23   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   1   
IND-D3 Provisional   26   2   

HEY HEY   We caught NAIA D2   Will be fun to track the rest of the way!!



D3 vs non conference d3

1   NESCAC      55   22   0.714
2   ODAC      36   16   0.692
3   Newmac      47   21   0.691
4   CCIW      40   18   0.690
5   UAA      41   19   0.683
6   WIAC      29   14   0.674
7   MACC      25   13   0.658
8   OAC      25   15   0.625
9   MIAC      27   17   0.614
10   SAA      27   18   0.600
11   LEC      34   23   0.596
12   Landmark      25   17   0.595
13   NJAC      22   15   0.595
14   PrAC      23   16   0.590
15   IIAC      27   20   0.574
16   SCAC      20   15   0.571
17   NWC      21   16   0.568
18   MWC      18   15   0.545
19   CAC      26   23   0.531
20   SUNY      26   23   0.531
21   MACF      22   20   0.524
22   E8      28   28   0.500
23   LL      27   28   0.491
24   NATCH      16   17   0.485
25   NCAC      21   23   0.477
26   CSAC      21   23   0.477
27   HCAC      21   24   0.467
28   ASC      11   13   0.458
29   CC      15   18   0.455
30   Sky      20   25   0.444
31   CCC      22   29   0.431
32   SCIAC      11   15   0.423
33   CUNY      16   24   0.400
34   GNAC      18   32   0.360
35   AMCC      16   29   0.356
36   NECC      20   37   0.351
37   MIAA      14   26   0.350
38   USAC      17   36   0.321
39   Mascac      19   41   0.317
40   NAC      10   24   0.294
41   SLIAC      12   32   0.273
42   UMAC      13   35   0.271
43   Independent      8   30   0.211
44   NEAC      6   30   0.167
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 16, 2013, 05:53:42 AM
Scores of 12/15/13

King's (D3)  95    Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA)  71
Alfred (D3)  121    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  70
Caltech (D3)  82    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  65
Pacific (D3)  85    Pacifica (Other)  78
Seattle (NCAA-D1)  66    Pacific Lutheran (D3)  38
Wiley (NAIA-D1)  98    Rust (D3)  53

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   21   
NCAA-D2   2   24   
NAIA-D1   9   12   
NAIA-D2   42   42   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   27   8   
USCAA   59   16   
Other   24   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   1   
IND-D3 Provisional   28   2   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wooscotsfan on December 16, 2013, 09:12:16 PM
Final: #2 Wooster 53  Westmont NAIA D1 47   Wooster gets the D3 win on a neutral court in Arizona.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2013, 01:41:09 AM
Games of 12/16/13

Humboldt State (NCAA-D2)  91    Linfield (D3)  58
Indiana Wesleyan (NAIA-D2)  89    Olivet (D3)  63    D3 back to one under .500
Wooster (D3)  53    Westmont (NAIA-D1)  47

D3 versus         
               W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   21   
NCAA-D2   2   25   
NAIA-D1   10   12   
NAIA-D2   42   43   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   27   8   
USCAA   59   16   
Other   24   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   1   
IND-D3 Provisional   28   2   

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: wooscotsfan on December 17, 2013, 11:22:45 PM
Final:  Arizona Christian (NAIA D1) 62  Wooster 60     Wooster loses a close road game to the #6 ranked team in the NAIA D1 poll.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2013, 07:59:09 PM
Scores of 12/17/13

Lafayette (NCAA-D1)  79    Immaculata (D3)  54
UW-Oshkosh (D3)  72    Silver Lake (USCAA)  62
Arizona Christian (NAIA-D1)  62    Wooster (D3)  60


D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   22   
NCAA-D2   2   25   
NAIA-D1   10   13   
NAIA-D2   42   43   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   27   8   
USCAA   60   16   
Other   24   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   1   
IND-D3 Provisional   28   2   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
Scores of 12/18/13

Gwynedd-Mercy (D3)  77    Montreat (NAIA-D2)  67
Adrian (D3)  74    Concordia (Mi.) (NAIA-D2)  63
Iowa Wesleyan (D3)  76    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  57
Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  76    Lancaster Bible (D3)  60
Lewis and Clark (D3)  119    Multnomah (NCCAA-D2)  106
Wayland Baptist (NAIA-D1)  80    Southwestern (D3)  65
Texas A&M Kingsville (NCAA-D2)  75    Texas Lutheran (D3)  71

D3 versus         
               W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   22   
NCAA-D2   2   26   
NAIA-D1   10   14   
NAIA-D2   44   43                   D3 over .500 !!!!!
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   28   8   
USCAA   60   16   
Other   24   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   29   2   


D3 vs non conf D3

1   NESCAC      55   22   0.714
2   CCIW      43   19   0.694
3   Newmac      47   21   0.691
4   WIAC      30   14   0.682
5   UAA      42   20   0.677
6   ODAC      41   21   0.661
7   Landmark      32   19   0.627
8   NJAC      25   15   0.625
9   OAC      26   16   0.619
10   SAA      29   18   0.617
11   MIAC      27   18   0.600
12   LEC      34   23   0.596
13   NWC      23   16   0.590
14   PrAC      25   18   0.581
15   MACC      26   19   0.578
16   IIAC      27   21   0.563
17   CAC      29   23   0.558
18   MWC      19   16   0.543
19   SCAC      20   17   0.541
20   NATCH      20   17   0.541
21   SUNY      26   25   0.510
22   MACF      23   23   0.500
23   E8      29   30   0.492
24   LL      27   28   0.491
25   CC      20   21   0.488
26   NCAC      22   24   0.478
27   CSAC      23   26   0.469
28   ASC      11   13   0.458
29   HCAC      23   28   0.451
30   SCIAC      13   16   0.448
31   Sky      20   26   0.435
32   CCC      22   29   0.431
33   CUNY      16   25   0.390
34   AMCC      19   30   0.388
35   MIAA      16   27   0.372
36   GNAC      18   32   0.360
37   NECC      20   37   0.351
38   USAC      20   43   0.317
39   Mascac      19   41   0.317
40   NAC      10   24   0.294
41   UMAC      14   35   0.286
42   SLIAC      12   34   0.261
43   Independent      8   33   0.195
44   NEAC      6   31   0.162



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 20, 2013, 05:06:08 AM
Games of 12/19/13


Northwood (Fla.) (NAIA-D2)  70    Gwynedd-Mercy (D3)  68
Dubuque (D3)  109    AIB College of Business (NAIA-D2)  66
Kalamazoo (D3)  90    Marygrove (NAIA-D2)  86
Lewis and Clark (D3)  124    Northwest Indian College (other)  94
Concordia (Ore.) (NAIA-D2)  83    Linfield (D3)  67
Southwest Minnesota (NCAA-D2)  83    UW-La Crosse (D3)  57
Dordt (NAIA-D2)  80    Martin Luther (D3)  56


D3 versus         
               W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   22   
NCAA-D2   2   27   
NAIA-D1   10   14   
NAIA-D2   46   46                2-3 last night....really kind of neat to follow                               
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   28   8   
USCAA   60   16   
Other   25   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   29   2   
         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 20, 2013, 08:30:51 AM
Incidentally.....

Lewis and Clark (D3)  124    Northwest Indian College (other)  94

  Northwest Indian College  ??? ???
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 20, 2013, 11:11:56 AM
http://www.nwic.edu/

An exceptional mission.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: David Collinge on December 20, 2013, 12:19:44 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 20, 2013, 11:11:56 AM
http://www.nwic.edu/

An exceptional mission.

+1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: monsoon on December 21, 2013, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 15, 2013, 06:22:03 AM
Games of 12/14/13

Johnson and Wales (D3)  85    Johnson & Wales (Fla.) (NAIA-D2)  66

That had to be a fun game to follow on the radio.  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 21, 2013, 02:31:41 PM
Games of 12/20/13

Valley City State (NAIA-D2)  68    Minnesota-Morris (D3)  67
Concordia (Mi.) (NAIA-D2)  104    Olivet (D3)  92
William and Mary (NCAA-D1)  94    Goucher (D3)  60

We drop 2 to fall behind NAIA-D2

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   23   
NCAA-D2   2   27   
NAIA-D1   10   14   
NAIA-D2   46   48   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   28   8   
USCAA   60   16   
Other   25   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   7   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   29   2   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 22, 2013, 06:29:10 AM
Games of 12/21/13

Hood (D3)  72    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  66
Adrian (D3)  60    Lawrence Tech (NAIA-D2)  42
Stephen F. Austin (NCAA-D1)  83    Elmhurst (D3)  49
Purdue-Calumet (NAIA-D2)  87    Kalamazoo (D3)  77
Texas St. (NCAA-D1)  73    Texas-Tyler (D3)  54

D3 versus            
                W   L      
NCAA-D1   1   25      
NCAA-D2   2   27      
NAIA-D1   10   14      
NAIA-D2   47   49      
NCCAA-D1   6   2      
NCCAA-D2   28   8      
USCAA   60   16      
Other   25   1      
Ind-D3 Exploratory   8   2      
IND-D3 Provisional   29   2      

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 22, 2013, 06:27:56 PM
Colgate (D1) 79 - Ursinus (DIII) 51
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 22, 2013, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on December 22, 2013, 06:27:56 PM
Colgate (D1) 79 - Ursinus (DIII) 51
Sorry   78-52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 23, 2013, 05:05:54 AM
Games of 12/22

Penn State-Harrisburg (D3)  80    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  62
Colgate (NCAA-D1)  79    Ursinus (D3)  51

D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   26   
NCAA-D2   2   27   
NAIA-D1   10   14   
NAIA-D2   47   49   ****** See Comment Below
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   29   8   
USCAA   60   16   
Other   25   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   9   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   29   2   

*****  There are 34 more D3 vs NAIA D2 matchups scheduled this year and another 2 potential games in tourneys.
One important team to watch as D3 strives to overtake NAIA-D2 is NAIA-d2's Fisher... they have 7 games remaining with D3 teams.. most weaker New England D3 teams....

D3 vs non conf D3

1   NESCAC      55   22   0.714   
2   WIAC      34   15   0.694   
3   Newmac      47   21   0.691   
4   UAA      43   20   0.683   
5   CCIW      48   23   0.676   
6   ODAC      44   22   0.667   
7   NJAC      27   17   0.614   
8   MACC      29   19   0.604   
9   Landmark      32   21   0.604   
10   OAC      27   19   0.587   
11   IIAC      31   22   0.585   
12   PrAC      28   20   0.583   
13   MIAC      28   20   0.583   
14   LEC      34   25   0.576   
15   CAC      30   23   0.566   adj to prior made
16   SAA      30   23   0.566   
17   SCIAC      19   16   0.543   
18   NATCH      20   17   0.541   
19   SCAC      21   18   0.538   adj to prior made
20   NWC      23   20   0.535   
21   SUNY      28   25   0.528   
22   NCAC      24   24   0.500   
23   MACF      24   24   0.500   
24   E8      29   30   0.492   adj to prior made
25   LL      27   28   0.491   
26   CC      21   22   0.488   
27   MWC      19   20   0.487   
28   ASC      12   13   0.480   
29   CSAC      24   26   0.480   
30   HCAC      24   29   0.453   
31   CCC      22   29   0.431   
32   Sky      20   28   0.417   
33   CUNY      16   25   0.390   
34   AMCC      19   31   0.380   
35   MIAA      17   29   0.370   
36   GNAC      18   32   0.360   
37   NECC      21   38   0.356   
38   Mascac      19   41   0.317   
39   USAC      20   44   0.313   
40   NAC      10   24   0.294   
41   UMAC      14   37   0.275   
42   SLIAC      11   32   0.256   adj to prior made
43   Independent      9   35   0.205   
44   NEAC      6   32   0.158   

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 24, 2013, 07:22:33 AM
Only one game in the D3 world on Dec. 23

Cleveland State (NCAA-D1)  89   La Roche  (D3)  42
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 28, 2013, 04:36:31 AM
Games of 12/27/13

Oakland (NCAA-D1)  87    Defiance (D3)  66
Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  85    Neumann (D3)  79
Montclair State (D3)  104    Vaughn (USCAA)  61
Dallas Christian (NCCAA-D2)  65    Texas Lutheran (D3)  64
Kean (D3)  50    Marian (Ind.) (NAIA-D2)  48
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) (D3)  75    Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA)  57

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   28   
NCAA-D2   2   27   
NAIA-D1   10   14   
NAIA-D2   48   49   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   29   9   
USCAA   62   17   
Other   25   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   9   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   29   2   
         




Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 29, 2013, 08:40:01 AM
Games of 12/28/13


Montclair State (D3)  100    Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  73
Neumann (D3)  79    Vaughn (USCAA)  45
Wayland Baptist (NAIA-D1)  103    Texas Lutheran (D3)  80
Marian (Ind.) (NAIA-D2)  67    Grove City (D3)  35

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   28   
NCAA-D2   2   27   
NAIA-D1   10   15   
NAIA-D2   48   50   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   29   9   
USCAA   64   17   
Other   25   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   9   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   29   2   
         



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: pjunito on December 29, 2013, 08:21:42 PM
Albertus loses at Central Connecticut State University (D1) 85-82 this afternoon. Albertus had a one point lead under a minute left but CCSU made four free throws and played excellent defense to close out the game and earn the victory.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2013, 08:38:58 PM
Games of 12/29/13


North Park (D3)  83    Ohio Midwestern (USCAA)  59
Bluffton (D3)  76    Ohio State Lima (Other)  50
Coe (D3)  100    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  45
Mount Mercy (NAIA-D2)  73    Westminster (Mo.) (D3)  53
Endicott (D3)  75    Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA)  72
Viterbo (NAIA-D2)  77    Buena Vista (D3)  67
Trinity (Conn.) (D3)  84    Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA)  45
Central Connecticut (NCAA-D1)  85    Albertus Magnus (D3)  82

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   29   
NCAA-D2   2   27   
NAIA-D1   10   15   
NAIA-D2   48   52   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   29   9   
USCAA   67   17   
Other   26   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   9   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   30   2   


D3 vs non conf D3

1   NESCAC      56   23   0.709
2   Newmac      48   21   0.696
3   CCIW      51   24   0.680
4   UAA      44   21   0.677
5   ODAC      50   26   0.658
6   WIAC      39   21   0.650
7   OAC      35   21   0.625
8   MACC      31   19   0.620
9   Landmark      32   22   0.593
10   MIAC      29   20   0.592
11   NJAC      29   21   0.580
12   IIAC      32   24   0.571
13   SAA      33   25   0.569
14   LEC      34   26   0.567
15   CAC      31   25   0.554
16   NATCH      21   17   0.553
17   NCAC      30   25   0.545
18   NWC      28   24   0.538
19   SUNY      29   25   0.537
20   SCAC      25   22   0.532
21   PrAC      28   25   0.528
22   LL      28   28   0.500
23   E8      30   30   0.500
24   SCIAC      21   21   0.500
25   MWC      22   23   0.489
26   MACF      24   26   0.480
27   CC      22   24   0.478
28   CSAC      24   27   0.471
29   HCAC      25   30   0.455
30   ASC      12   15   0.444
31   CCC      22   29   0.431
32   Sky      21   29   0.420
33   CUNY      19   28   0.404
34   AMCC      21   31   0.404
35   MIAA      20   34   0.370
36   NECC      21   39   0.350
37   Mascac      22   41   0.349
38   GNAC      18   34   0.346
39   USAC      20   45   0.308
40   SLIAC      13   32   0.289
41   NAC      10   25   0.286
42   UMAC      14   39   0.264
43   Independent      9   38   0.191
44   NEAC      6   32   0.158

         



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 30, 2013, 08:50:48 PM
Did any D-3 programs schedule Champion Baptist? The gave up 44 points in a row to Southern to begin the game. I think they're an ACCA school.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2013, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 30, 2013, 08:50:48 PM
Did any D-3 programs schedule Champion Baptist? The gave up 44 points in a row to Southern to begin the game. I think they're an ACCA school.

No games vs Champion Baptist scheduled this year....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 31, 2013, 07:08:30 AM
Games of 12/30/13

Bleak Thursday for D3 vs NAIA D2 as we go 1-5

Embry-Riddle (NAIA-D2)  73    Salisbury (D3)  52
Medaille (D3)  87    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  57
Bates (D3)  97    Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA)  73
St. Norbert (D3)  70    Viterbo (NAIA-D2)  63
Cincinnati Christian (NAIA-D2)  102    Thomas More (D3)  68
Vermont (NCAA-D1)  88    Lyndon State (D3)  48
Trinity (Conn.) (D3)  84    Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA)  45
Whittier (D3)  79    Pacifica (Other)  71
Army (NCAA-D1)  68    Coast Guard (D3)  48
Montreat (NAIA-D2)  82    Emory and Henry (D3)  68
Radford (NCAA-D1)  80    Houghton (D3)  51
Bryan (NAIA-D2)  76    Maryville (Tenn.) (D3)  73
Concordia (Ore.) (NAIA-D2)  86    Willamette (D3)  83
Vermont (NCAA-D1)  88    Lyndon State (D3)  48

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   33   
NCAA-D2   2   27   
NAIA-D1   10   15   
NAIA-D2   49   57   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   29   9   
USCAA   69   17   
Other   27   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   9   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   31   2   

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2014, 08:59:20 AM
games of 12/31/13

Good recovery vs NAIA D2   (5-1)

Dubuque (D3)  79    St. Francis (Ill.) (NAIA-D2)  62
Rockford (D3)  87    Clarke (NAIA-D2)  82
Hamilton (D3)  82    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  51
Centre (D3)  84    Cincinnati Christian (NAIA-D2)  73
Wentworth (D3)  76    Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA)  48
Dartmouth (NCAA-D1)  85    Lesley (D3)  47
Occidental (D3)  84    La Sierra (NAIA-D2)  81
Trine (D3)  57    Mount Vernon Nazarene (NAIA-D2)  47
Nebraska Wesleyan (NAIA-D2)  74    Simpson (D3)  64

D3 versus         
                 W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   34   
NCAA-D2   2   27   
NAIA-D1   10   15   
NAIA-D2   54   58   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   29   9   
USCAA   70   17   
Other   27   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   9   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   32   2   
         

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2014, 09:50:20 PM
One game 0n 1/1/14     ... must have been a heck of a game....

Nova Southeastern (NCAA-D2)  105    Amherst (D3)  101
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 03, 2014, 09:42:59 PM
Games of 1/2/14                   

Rowan (D3)  85    Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  68
Cardinal Stritch (NAIA-D2)  80    Wisconsin Lutheran (D3)  67
Eastern Nazarene (D3)  75    Maine-Presque Isle (USCAA)  56
St. Vincent (D3)  86    Penn St.-Fayette (USCAA)  56
Northwood (Fla.) (NAIA-D2)  95    Goucher (D3)  64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 04, 2014, 10:18:01 AM
Games of 1/3/14

Juniata (D3)  94    Valley Forge Christian (Ind-D3 Provisional)  48
Eastern Mennonite (D3)  78    Virginia-Lynchburg (USCAA)  70


D3 versus         
                 W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   34   
NCAA-D2   2   28   
NAIA-D1   10   15   
NAIA-D2   54   60   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   29   9   
USCAA   74   17   
Other   27   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   9   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   33   2   
         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 05, 2014, 09:45:21 AM
Games of 1/4/14

Johns Hopkins (D3)  66    Valley Forge Christian (Ind-D3 Provisional)  57
Moravian (D3)  90    Penn State Lehigh Valley (USCAA)  64
Coe (D3)  69    Clarke (NAIA-D2)  56
Colby (D3)  92    Maine-Machias (USCAA)  61
South Dakota (NCAA-D1)  86    Iowa Wesleyan (D3)  52
IPFW (NCAA-D1)  110    Kalamazoo (D3)  74
Luther (D3)  85    Mount Mercy (NAIA-D2)  72
Penn St. Mont Alto (USCAA)  65    McDaniel (D3)  62
Valley City State (NAIA-D2)  64    Minnesota-Morris (D3)  55
Penn State-Abington (D3)  81    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  73
St. Lawrence (D3)  81    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  70
VMI (NCAA-D1)  128    Washington College (D3)  54
Simpson (D3)  91    AIB College of Business (NAIA-D2)  68
Northwestern (Iowa) (NAIA-D2)  86    Buena Vista (D3)  84
Whittier (D3)  79    UC-Merced (NAIA-D2)  67

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   37   
NCAA-D2   2   28   
NAIA-D1   10   15   
NAIA-D2   58   62   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   29   9   
USCAA   76   18   
Other   27   1   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   10   2   
IND-D3 Provisional   35   2   
         

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 05, 2014, 09:14:39 PM
Games of 1/5/14


RPI (D3)  113    Penn State Lehigh Valley (USCAA)  63
Emmanuel (D3)  82    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  76
Open Bible (Other)  81    Hendrix (D3)  76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 06, 2014, 10:19:05 PM

Grinnell brought in another patsy to try and set some records.  I haven't seen the box score, but 164-144 makes me think the patsy was a little friskier than they anticipated.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 06, 2014, 10:38:28 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 06, 2014, 10:19:05 PM

Grinnell brought in another patsy to try and set some records.  I haven't seen the box score, but 164-144 makes me think the patsy was a little friskier than they anticipated.
Haven't seen the box score either but according to their twitter, Patrick Maher set a record with 37 assists.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 07, 2014, 02:52:09 AM
Games of 1/6/14

Grinnell (D3)  164    College of Faith (Other)  144
Lynchburg (D3)  97    Virginia-Lynchburg (USCAA)  79
Susquehanna (D3)  78    Berkeley (N.J.) (USCAA)  64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 08, 2014, 04:43:52 AM
games of 1/7/14



Eastern (D3)  74    Penn State Brandywine (USCAA)  58
Auburn Montgomery (NAIA-D1)  80    Huntingdon (D3)  74
Lancaster Bible (D3)      Penn State Lehigh Valley (USCAA) 
Presentation (NAIA-D2)  56    Minnesota-Morris (D3)  53
SUNY-Maritime (D3)  75    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  67
Worcester State (D3)  72    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  70
Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  86    Drew (D3)  82

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   37   
NCAA-D2   2   28   
NAIA-D1   10   16   
NAIA-D2   60   63   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   29   9   
USCAA   80   18   
Other   28   2   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   10   3   
IND-D3 Provisional   36   2   


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 13, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
Games of 1/8/14

Penn St. Beaver (USCAA)  86    Grove City (D3)  69
Morrisville State (D3)  83    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  54
Wilkes (D3)  88    Penn St.- Wilkes Barre (USCAA)  69
Wiley (NAIA-D1)  105    Rust (D3) 

Games of 1/9/14

SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  84    Cazenovia (D3)  71

Games of 1/10/14

SUNYIT (D3)  83    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  59
Maranatha Baptist (D3)  79    Crossroads (NCCAA-D2)  67

Games of 1/11/14

Brown (NCAA-D1)  91    Daniel Webster (D3)  50
Eastern (D3)  73    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  50
Iowa Wesleyan (D3)  60    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  44
King's (D3)  87    Penn St.- Wilkes Barre (USCAA)  60
Cornell (N.Y.) (NCAA-D1)  77    Oberlin (D3)  55
Washington and Jefferson (D3)  81    Penn St.-Dubois (USCAA)  59
William Peace (D3)  91    Johnson And Wales (N.C.) (USCAA)  70
Cal Maritime (NAIA-D2)  66    UC Santa Cruz (D3)  53
Yale (NCAA-D1)  88    Baruch (D3)  49


D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   40   
NCAA-D2   2   28   
NAIA-D1   10   17   
NAIA-D2   60   64   
NCCAA-D1   6   2   
NCCAA-D2   30   9   
USCAA   84   19   
Other   28   2   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   11   3   
IND-D3 Provisional   40   3   






               
               



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 13, 2014, 11:52:39 PM
I was going through teams for my Top 25 ballot and Massey has a couple games vs NCAA-D1 for Louisiana College that aren't listed on d3hoops... I think your list caught the loss to Northwestern St on 12/14, but I don't think it caught the opening night loss to McNeese St on 11/15.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 14, 2014, 01:00:13 AM
The McNeese game is an exhibition for LC according to the LC site (it didn't have a link to the box score). Massey has to put it in his data because it is a countable game for McNeese.

We (CWU) have two such games for the men (Quest and Walla Walla) and women (Quest and Evergreen). They counted it as exhibitions but we can count them in the season. (Quest is Canadian, Walla Walla and Evergreen are NAIA). To get the most complete data set Massey throws them in. Usually, that data point will wash out in the end unless something weird happens.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 18, 2014, 11:08:42 AM
Games of 1/13/14
New Jersey Tech (NCAA-D1)  99    CCNY (D3)  60   

Games of 1/14/14      
Concordia (Ala.) (USCAA)  98    Huntingdon (D3)  82
Wells (D3)  74    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  53
Green Mountain (D3)  84    Word of Life (Other)  38
Mount St. Vincent (D3)  63    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  45
Greensboro (D3)  73    Barber Scotia (USCAA)  65

Games of 1/15/14
Averett (D3)  91    Columbia International (NCCAA-D1)  81

Games of 1/16/14
Framingham State (D3)  86    Vaughn (USCAA)  72
Silver Lake (USCAA)  56    Maranatha Baptist (D3)  50

Games of 1/17/14  none

D3 versus         
                 W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   41   
NCAA-D2   2   28   
NAIA-D1   10   17   
NAIA-D2   60   64   
NCCAA-D1   7   2   
NCCAA-D2   30   9   
USCAA   86   21   
Other   29   2   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   11   3   
IND-D3 Provisional   42   3   
         



 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 19, 2014, 11:33:45 AM
Games of 1/18/14

Silver Lake (USCAA)  88    Finlandia (D3)  79
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 19, 2014, 08:53:36 PM
Games of 1/19/14


Coast Guard (D3)  67    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 21, 2014, 07:23:26 PM
Games of 1/20/14


Wheaton (Mass.) (D3)  79    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  63
Marian (D3)  76    Northland International (NCCAA-D2)  67

One game closer to NAIA D2!!!

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   41   
NCAA-D2   2   28   
NAIA-D1   10   17   
NAIA-D2   61   64   
NCCAA-D1   7   2   
NCCAA-D2   31   9   
USCAA   86   22   
Other   29   2   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   11   3   
IND-D3 Provisional   43   3   
         

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 21, 2014, 07:27:54 PM
we are 61-64 vs NAIA D2    10 games left   Can we go 7-3?


1/21/2014   Johnson & Wales (Colo.)   H   NAIA-D2      Colorado College   A   SCAC
1/22/2014   Ashford   H   NAIA-D2      UW-Stout   A   WIAC
1/23/2014   Fisher   A   NAIA-D2      Daniel Webster   H   NECC
1/25/2014   Concordia (Mi.)   H   NAIA-D2      Concordia (Ill.)   A   NATHC
1/28/2014   Fisher   H   NAIA-D2      Connecticut College   A   NESCAC
2/10/2014   Fisher   A   NAIA-D2      Trinity (Conn.)   H   NESCAC
2/11/2014   St. Louis Pharmacy   A   NAIA-D2      Principia   H   SLIAC
2/12/2014   Fisher   H   NAIA-D2      Fitchburg State   A   MASCAC
2/13/2014   Menlo   H   NAIA-D2      UC Santa Cruz   A   IND
2/22/2014   Clarke   H   NAIA-D2      Maranatha Baptist   A   IND
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 21, 2014, 08:37:28 PM
Let's consult Ken Massey's HAL 9000 supercomputer, shall we?

He has projected scores, and the percentage of likelihood that the D3 team will win, for five of the ten remaining D3 vs. NAIA-D2 contests:

Colorado College (D3) 81, Johnson & Wales CO (NAIA-D2) 68 (89% chance of Colorado C. win)
Ashford (NAIA-D2) 58, UW-Stout (D3) 56 (43% chance of UW-Stout win)
St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA-D2) 82, Principia (D3) 76 (28% chance of Principia win)
Menlo (NAIA-D2) 70, UC-Santa Cruz (D3) 64 (27% chance of UCSC win)
Clarke (NAIA-D2) 92, Maranatha Baptist (D3) 56, (0% chance of Maranatha Baptist win)

(It should be noted that UW-Stout and Ashford have already met this season; the Blue Devils downed Ashford, 56-41, on UW-Stout's home floor in Menominee, WI, back on November 30.)

The other five D3 vs. NAIA-D2 contests aren't listed in the Massey database, so he has no projected results for them. But he does have Daniel Webster, Connecticut College, and Trinity CT, all rated more highly than Fisher in the overall rankings; Fisher is rated above Fitchburg State. Also, Concordia MI is rated above Concordia IL by a significant margin.

It would seem, then, that Massey has the final ten games going 6-4 in favor of NAIA-D2.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 22, 2014, 12:55:18 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 21, 2014, 08:37:28 PM
Let's consult Ken Massey's HAL 9000 supercomputer, shall we?

He has projected scores, and the percentage of likelihood that the D3 team will win, for five of the ten remaining D3 vs. NAIA-D2 contests:

Colorado College (D3) 81, Johnson & Wales CO (NAIA-D2) 68 (89% chance of Colorado C. win)
Ashford (NAIA-D2) 58, UW-Stout (D3) 56 (43% chance of UW-Stout win)
St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA-D2) 82, Principia (D3) 76 (28% chance of Principia win)
Menlo (NAIA-D2) 70, UC-Santa Cruz (D3) 64 (27% chance of UCSC win)
Clarke (NAIA-D2) 92, Maranatha Baptist (D3) 56, (0% chance of Maranatha Baptist win)

(It should be noted that UW-Stout and Ashford have already met this season; the Blue Devils downed Ashford, 56-41, on UW-Stout's home floor in Menominee, WI, back on November 30.)

The other five D3 vs. NAIA-D2 contests aren't listed in the Massey database, so he has no projected results for them. But he does have Daniel Webster, Connecticut College, and Trinity CT, all rated more highly than Fisher in the overall rankings; Fisher is rated above Fitchburg State. Also, Concordia MI is rated above Concordia IL by a significant margin.

It would seem, then, that Massey has the final ten games going 6-4 in favor of NAIA-D2.

On the other hand, if we're looking for a way:

Daniel Webster, Conn Coll and Trinity all beat Fisher
Colorado College gets its win
Prin lost close to Pharma before, without 15 ppg guard Larry Patterson.. they are legit chance to win
Stout is able to repeat its victory over Ashford

There is 6
the 7th?


The 7th...
Well, the UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs lost by 9 to Chapman, while Chapman blew out Menlo by 24

And Fitchburg got its lone win vs Mass College while Mass College beat Fisher..

And Concordia Ill has a couple surprising wins lately..

It is possible...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 22, 2014, 04:31:10 AM
To continue our coverage of the D3 vs NAIA-D2 competition, Colorado College Beats
Johnson & Wales COlorado 75-65 last night

D3 now 62-64 vs NAIA D2 with 9 games left

tonight the critical UW Stoudt  vs  Ashford game.. one that D3 almost has to have!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 22, 2014, 10:21:56 PM
Games of 1/21/14

Toccoa Falls (NCCAA-D2)  85    Berry (D3)  78
Maranatha Baptist (D3)  71    Dayspring Bible (Other)  59
Bowdoin (D3)  82    Maine-Presque Isle (USCAA)  51
North Central (Minn.) (D3)  82    Crossroads (NCCAA-D2)  60
Sage (D3)  89    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  79
Colorado College (D3)  75    Johnson & Wales (Colo.) (NAIA-D2)  65

D3 versus         
               W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   41   
NCAA-D2   2   28   
NAIA-D1   10   17   
NAIA-D2   62   64   
NCCAA-D1   7   2   
NCCAA-D2   32   10   
USCAA   87   22   
Other   30   2   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   11   3   
IND-D3 Provisional   44   3   
         

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 22, 2014, 10:29:41 PM
UW Stout loses to Ashford 71-69

This puts D3 at 62-65 with 8 games left... have to go 6-2.... Marantha isn't going to beat Clarke... that means D3 has to go 6-1 in rest of the games.... TOUGH....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 26, 2014, 08:38:28 PM
Games of 1/22/14

Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  80    Penn State-Abington (D3)  75
Ashford (NAIA-D2)  71    UW-Stout (D3)  69
SUNY-ESF (USCAA)  83    Green Mountain (D3)  74

Games of 1/23/14

St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) (D3)  82    Valley Forge Christian (Ind-D3 Provisional)  76
Fisher (NAIA-D2)  74    Daniel Webster (D3)  66
Nazareth (D3)  74    Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional)  52
Maranatha Baptist (D3)  70    Northland International (NCCAA-D2)  62
Middlebury (D3)  115    St. Joseph's (Vt.) (USCAA)  74

games of 1/24/14

Lancaster Bible (D3)  68    Penn State Lehigh Valley (USCAA)  51

Games of 1/25/14

Concordia (Neb.) (NAIA-D2)  68    Concordia (Wis.) (D3)  64
Concordia (Mi.) (NAIA-D2)  80    Concordia (Ill.) (D3)  74

D3 can no longer finish over .500 vs NAIA-D2

D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   41   
NCAA-D2   2   28   
NAIA-D1   10   17   
NAIA-D2   62   68   
NCCAA-D1   7   2   
NCCAA-D2   33   10   
USCAA   89   23   
Other   30   2   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   11   4   
IND-D3 Provisional   46   3   






Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 14, 2014, 04:39:23 PM
Games played from 1/26/14 through 2/13/14


Princeton (NCAA-D1)  84    Kean (D3)  54
Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  69    Cairn (D3)  55
Johnson State (D3)  64    Vermont Tech (USCAA)  55
Connecticut College (D3)  68    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  58
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) (D3)  70    Pratt (Other)  25
Bates (D3)  78    Maine-Presque Isle (USCAA)  53
Lehman (D3)  94    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  49
SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  92    Johnson State (D3)  87
William Peace (D3)  98    Columbia International (NCCAA-D1)  58
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) (D3)  97    Vaughn (USCAA)  82
Maranatha Baptist (D3)  103    Dayspring Bible (Other)  54
Northland International (NCCAA-D2)  68    Finlandia (D3)  63
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) (D3)  71    Albany Pharmacy (Other)  53
Victory (NCCAA-D1)  82    Huntingdon (D3)  69
Tougaloo (NAIA-D1)  84    Rust (D3)  78
Morrisville State (D3)  76    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  70
Toccoa Falls (NCCAA-D2)  70    Sewanee (D3)  67
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) (D3)  92    Sarah Lawrence (IND-D3 Provisional)  75
New Jersey Tech (NCAA-D1)  110    Wheelock (D3)  46
CCNY (D3)  70    Vaughn (USCAA)  67
Maranatha Baptist (D3)  75    Northland International (NCCAA-D2)  73
St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) (D3)  87    Culinary Institute (Other)  61
Silver Lake (USCAA)  88    Finlandia (D3)  81
Merchant Marine (D3)  70    Vaughn (USCAA)  64
New Jersey City (D3)  73    Valley Forge Christian (Ind-D3 Provisional)  57
Trinity (Conn.) (D3)  69    Fisher (NAIA-D2)  55
Colby (D3)  101    Maine-Presque Isle (USCAA)  66
Northland (D3)  61    Northland International (NCCAA-D2)  59
Principia (D3)  77    St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA-D2)  56
Fisher (NAIA-D2)  94    Fitchburg State (D3)  82
Finlandia (D3)  80    Grace Bible (NCCAA-D2)  79
Lemoyne-Owen (NCAA-D2)  63    Rust (D3)  62
Menlo (NAIA-D2)  76    UC Santa Cruz (D3)  48


D3 versus         
                W   L   
NCAA-D1   1   43   
NCAA-D2   2   29   
NAIA-D1   10   18   
NAIA-D2   65   70   
NCCAA-D1   8   3   
NCCAA-D2   36   12   
USCAA   95   24   
Other   34   2   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   11   5   
IND-D3 Provisional   50   4   

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on May 09, 2014, 04:21:53 PM
I just realized that I dropped the ball on completing scores in the final 3 weeks of the season... kind of late for that, but for documentation purposes, here are final records vs non d3... Regular season... results in NCCAA or USCAA tourneys not included:

   W   L
NCAA-D1   1   43
NCAA-D2   2   29
NAIA-D1   10   19
NAIA-D2   65   71
NCCAA-D1   8   3
NCCAA-D2   41   14
USCAA   96   24
Other   37   2
Ind-D3 Exploratory   11   5
IND-D3 Provisional   51   4
      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 09, 2014, 09:02:13 PM
Thanks, hopefan!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2014, 01:25:26 PM

I guess no one is manning this board this year, but I wanted to note we've got four! d3-d1 games this evening:

Newbury is playing Yale
FDU-Florham is playing Farleigh Dickinson
Eureka is playing Eastern Illinois
Cal Lutheran is playing Pepperdine


We already had Goucher getting killed by Howard and Catholic losing to Davidson.

Six games in three days is pretty good.  I'm not sure any of these teams has a chance to win, but you wouldn't be super shocked if Yale or Pepperdine lost to d3 teams, would you?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 17, 2014, 02:23:38 PM
Youngstown State 71 Oberlin 53

clearly Oberlin suffered a post win over Wittenberg hangover.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OxyBob on November 19, 2014, 07:45:26 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 17, 2014, 01:25:26 PM
Cal Lutheran is playing Pepperdine

Pepperdine 76 CLU 61

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?id=400599887

OxyBob
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on August 17, 2015, 08:01:31 AM
Good news for those that have enjoyed following this page in the past... I am keeping my spreadsheet this year so will be documenting detailed D3 results vs everyone else on this page throughout the season... Feel welcome to comment during the season if I have a certain school in a wrong Association... the schools change memberships at times, I might not be totally up to date...I'm planning on counting Nebraska Wesleyan as NAIA, as they are playing a complete NAIA conference schedule... the same with Berea.....Those seem to be the only 'outliers' among schools also belonging to D3.  Feel free to comment, I can change my thinking.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on August 17, 2015, 08:37:30 AM
I just came across what has to be the toughest (given the assumption that low level D1 schools are still tougher than high level D3 schools) D3 nonconference schedule in the country:

Check out Louisiana College...  a member of the ASC, they play 5 non conference games... 3 of them are against NCAA D1 teams, McNeese State, Northwestern State (La.), and Nicholls State, and their other 2 nonconference games are against NAIA-D1 LSU-Alexandria, who went 23-4 last year.   And for a little additional spice, they play an exhibition game against D1 Louisiana-Lafayette!!     AND they do this under new head coach Reni Mason, replacing Gene Rushing who had been at LC for the previous 29 years....   Tough introduction for Coach Mason....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on August 17, 2015, 11:46:18 AM
Quote from: hopefan on August 17, 2015, 08:01:31 AM
Good news for those that have enjoyed following this page in the past... I am keeping my spreadsheet this year so will be documenting detailed D3 results vs everyone else on this page throughout the season

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Quote from: hopefan on August 17, 2015, 08:37:30 AM
I just came across what has to be the toughest (given the assumption that low level D1 schools are still tougher than high level D3 schools) D3 nonconference schedule in the country:

Check out Louisiana College...  a member of the ASC, they play 5 non conference games... 3 of them are against NCAA D1 teams, McNeese State, Northwestern State (La.), and Nicholls State, and their other 2 nonconference games are against NAIA-D1 LSU-Alexandria, who went 23-4 last year.   And for a little additional spice, they play an exhibition game against D1 Louisiana-Lafayette!!     AND they do this under new head coach Reni Mason, replacing Gene Rushing who had been at LC for the previous 29 years....   Tough introduction for Coach Mason....

Sure, but right now he's the campus hero as far as the Louisiana College administration is concerned:

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Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on August 27, 2015, 08:58:27 PM
hopefan,

Glad to hear you'll be manning the helm of this board once again. Nobody does it (or did it) better!!. 8-)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 08, 2015, 10:44:46 PM
Quote from: hopefan on August 17, 2015, 08:37:30 AM
I just came across what has to be the toughest (given the assumption that low level D1 schools are still tougher than high level D3 schools) D3 nonconference schedule in the country:

Check out Louisiana College...  a member of the ASC, they play 5 non conference games... 3 of them are against NCAA D1 teams, McNeese State, Northwestern State (La.), and Nicholls State, and their other 2 nonconference games are against NAIA-D1 LSU-Alexandria, who went 23-4 last year.   And for a little additional spice, they play an exhibition game against D1 Louisiana-Lafayette!!     AND they do this under new head coach Reni Mason, replacing Gene Rushing who had been at LC for the previous 29 years....   Tough introduction for Coach Mason....
I have not put the pencil to it but with the exception of Centenary LA, they may be the closest opponents to Pineville.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 14, 2015, 11:29:45 AM
ok... here we go for 2015-2016..

NOTE, Exhibition games are not included as they are not a part of the D3 team's record..

Note, if non D3 teams have recently changed affiliation, I may have missed it... let me know, and if I can verify, I'll make the correction...

Winning teams are printed First  Non D3 team is identified by their affiliation

Independent Provisional D3 teams are considered Non D3 because they play mostly non D3 teams... to include them as D3 teams would skew the D3 w-l records..

Games of Nov. 13, 2015:

Simpson (Calif.) (NAIA-D2) 77, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 72
Adrian  105,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  76
Lewis and Clark  94,  Valley Forge  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  64
Lycoming  97,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  75
Sage  84,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  72
Trinity Int'l (NAIA-D2) 111, Olivet 92
St. Mary's (Minn.)  83,  Crossroads College  (NCCAA-D2)  66
Penn St. Scranton (USCAA) 83, Penn College 72
Methodist  84,  St. Andrews  (NCAA-D2) 


D3 versus      
                                 W         L
NCAA-D1                  0          0
NCAA-D2                   1          0
NAIA-D1                    0          0
NAIA-D2                    0          2
NCCAA-D1                0          0
NCCAA-D2                1          0
USCAA                      2          1
Other                         0          0
IND-D3 Provisional     2          0



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 14, 2015, 12:40:22 PM

I thought the exhibitions on or after the first night DID count for the d3 team's record.  Did that change?  I know there were a number of d3-d1 matchups last night.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 14, 2015, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 14, 2015, 12:40:22 PM

I thought the exhibitions on or after the first night DID count for the d3 team's record.  Did that change?  I know there were a number of d3-d1 matchups last night.

Hoops, yes, that did change... D3 teams get 2 exhibitions, and they may be In-Season...  I had pointed out to the guys that some schools were showing 26 games in season without identifying an exhibition, but for the most part, that has been corrected.  D3hoops schedules from last night properly do not include these exhibition games....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 15, 2015, 12:21:01 PM
Games of 11/14

Cal Maritime (NAIA-D2) 67, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 60
Iowa Wesleyan  96,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  89
Linfield  71,  Valley Forge  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  58
Lehman  99,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  58
D'Youville  93,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  77
Trinity Christian (NAIA-D2) 77, Olivet 65
Concordia (Texas)  114,  Huston-Tillotson  (NAIA-D1)  105
West Chester (NCAA-D2) 94, Gwynedd Mercy 93
Marywood  93,  Penn St. Scranton  (USCAA)  78
Liberty (NCAA-D1) 90, Summit 52
Anderson  100,  Cincinnati-Clermont  (USCAA)  77
Spalding (SLIAC) 85, Berea 82
Stony Brook (NCAA-D1) 103, Merchant Marine 32
Alvernia  88,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  73
Grinnell  125,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  90
Winona St. (NCAA-D2) 92, Wisconsin Lutheran 62
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 107, Newbury 75
Southern Oregon (NAIA-D2) 96, Willamette 84
Eastern Mennonite  84,  Virginia-Lynchburg  (Other)  78
Bethany  100,  Penn St.-Dubois  (USCAA)  67
Oglethorpe  123,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  99
Menlo (NAIA-D2) 74, Whittier 70
Loyola (Chi.) (NCAA-D1) 84, Eureka 51
Fontbonne  84,  Morthland  (NCCAA-D1)  73
Point Park (NAIA-D2) 91, Buffalo State 89
North Central (Minn.)  86,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  81
UNC Greensboro (NCAA-D1) 86, Greensboro 69
Minnesota Crookston (NCAA-D2) 74, UW-Stout 51


YTD D3 versus

                                 W         L   
NCAA-D1                  0          4   
NCAA-D2                   1          3   
NAIA-D1                    1          0   
NAIA-D2                    0          7   
NCCAA-D1                1          0   
NCCAA-D2                3          0   
USCAA                      9          2   
Other                         1          0   
IND-D3 Provisional     5          0   


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 15, 2015, 11:12:28 PM
Games of 11/15/15

St. Thomas (Tx.) (NAIA-D1) 94, Sul Ross State 61
Nebraska Wesleyan (NAIA-D2) 109, Buena Vista 104
Grinnell  102,  Crossroads College  (NCCAA-D2)  75
Cal Merced (NAIA-D2) 86, Whittier 78
High Point (NCAA-D1) 93, North Carolina Wesleyan 69
William Peace  90,  St. Andrews  (NAIA-D2)  87

YTD D3 versus

                                 W         L   
NCAA-D1                  0          5   
NCAA-D2                   1          3   
NAIA-D1                    1          1   
NAIA-D2                    1          9   
NCCAA-D1                1          0   
NCCAA-D2                4          0   
USCAA                      9          2   
Other                         1          0   
IND-D3 Provisional     5          0   

Wow... 1-9 vs NAIA D2... a poor start to what has been a pretty close competition in the past.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2015, 02:16:24 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 15, 2015, 12:21:01 PM
Games of 11/14

Cal Maritime (NAIA-D2) 67, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 60
Iowa Wesleyan  96,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  89
Linfield  71,  Valley Forge  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  58
Lehman  99,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  58
D'Youville  93,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  77
Trinity Christian (NAIA-D2) 77, Olivet 65
Concordia (Texas)  114,  Huston-Tillotson  (NAIA-D1)  105
West Chester (NCAA-D2) 94, Gwynedd Mercy 93
Marywood  93,  Penn St. Scranton  (USCAA)  78
Liberty (NCAA-D1) 90, Summit 52
Anderson  100,  Cincinnati-Clermont  (USCAA)  77
Spalding (SLIAC) 85, Berea 82
Stony Brook (NCAA-D1) 103, Merchant Marine 32
Alvernia  88,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  73
Grinnell  125,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  90
Winona St. (NCAA-D2) 92, Wisconsin Lutheran 62
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 107, Newbury 75
Southern Oregon (NAIA-D2) 96, Willamette 84
Eastern Mennonite  84,  Virginia-Lynchburg  (Other)  78
Bethany  100,  Penn St.-Dubois  (USCAA)  67
Oglethorpe  123,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  99
Menlo (NAIA-D2) 74, Whittier 70
Loyola (Chi.) (NCAA-D1) 84, Eureka 51
Fontbonne  84,  Morthland  (NCCAA-D1)  73
Point Park (NAIA-D2) 91, Buffalo State 89
North Central (Minn.)  86,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  81
UNC Greensboro (NCAA-D1) 86, Greensboro 69
Minnesota Crookston (NCAA-D2) 74, UW-Stout 51


YTD D3 versus

                                 W         L   
NCAA-D1                  0          4   
NCAA-D2                   1          3   
NAIA-D1                    1          0   
NAIA-D2                    0          7   
NCCAA-D1                1          0   
NCCAA-D2                3          0   
USCAA                      9          2   
Other                         1          0   
IND-D3 Provisional     5          0

hopefan,

I spotted the "Other" connotation next to bolded Virgina-Lynchburg and see that the  "Other" category is 1-0 but where did you place bolded Berea? There was no affiliation next to their name, I thought it was Other but they are USCAA or could be a  Independant-D3Provisional, maybe? I'm guessing by the count from Friday to Saturday that you put them in Ind-D3Provisional and just didn't mark them in the score section.

And you're right NAIA II is killing us. Must be the matchups. Hope it evens out.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2015, 05:35:14 AM
Magic... yes Berea is Ind D3 provisional catagory... But your question pointed out a question as to why that affiliation didn't print and SLIAC did print next to Spalding (it shouldn't have)... macros, you gotta love 'em, until you find a glitch... corrected now... ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2015, 07:28:24 AM
Good, my question helped you find a glitch. I hate those damn glitches...they're worse than gremlins, because they hide themselves so much better. :D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 16, 2015, 09:48:47 PM
Thanks again for doing this, hopefan. You rock!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2015, 08:19:49 AM
Games of 11/16/15:

Longwood (NCAA-D1) 89, La Roche 65
IPFW (NCAA-D1) 85, Manchester 53
Simpson  87,  Graceland  (NAIA-D1)  69
Maine-Presque Isle  83,  New England Baptist  (Other)  29
Fairleigh Dickinson (NCAA-D1) 111, FDU-Florham 70
King's  85,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  44
Akron (NCAA-D1) 100, Hiram 30
Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2) 102, Puget Sound 88

YTD D3 versus           
                                W         L      
NCAA-D1                  0          9      
NCAA-D2                   0          3      
NAIA-D1                    2          1      
NAIA-D2                    2          10      
NCCAA-D1                1          0      
NCCAA-D2                4          0      
USCAA                      10          2      
Other                         2          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     5          0      

UMPI 83  NE Bap 29             Given UMPI's history, how bad must NE Baptist be?   :o :o





Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2015, 08:36:20 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 17, 2015, 08:19:49 AM

UMPI 83  NE Bap 29             Given UMPI's history, how bad must NE Baptist be? 


From their website:

"New England Baptist College is an independent, fundamental, local church-centered Baptist college. It stands without apology for separation from worldliness, conservative Christ-honoring music, and the exclusive use of the King James Bible."

They also require two hours of door-to-door evangelism each week for every student.  This does not make recruiting efforts super easy.  Also, the lack of accreditation hurts.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2015, 10:27:18 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 17, 2015, 08:36:20 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 17, 2015, 08:19:49 AM

UMPI 83  NE Bap 29             Given UMPI's history, how bad must NE Baptist be? 


From their website:

"New England Baptist College is an independent, fundamental, local church-centered Baptist college. It stands without apology for separation from worldliness, conservative Christ-honoring music, and the exclusive use of the King James Bible."

They also require two hours of door-to-door evangelism each week for every student.  This does not make recruiting efforts super easy.  Also, the lack of accreditation hurts.

Now wait, I can see it now... 

All over New England....The doorbell rings...   "Sit down and read The Good Book with me, and, does anybody in the household play basketball?" ::) ::)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on November 17, 2015, 02:27:27 PM
I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I have a feeling athletics aren't very high on NE Baptists priorities list.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 17, 2015, 02:28:52 PM
Quote from: 7express on November 17, 2015, 02:27:27 PM
I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I have a feeling athletics aren't very high on NE Baptists priorities list.

I tried searching and I get a pretty solid number of 'loses to JV team'.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on November 18, 2015, 02:11:15 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on August 17, 2015, 11:46:18 AM
Quote from: hopefan on August 17, 2015, 08:37:30 AM
I just came across what has to be the toughest (given the assumption that low level D1 schools are still tougher than high level D3 schools) D3 nonconference schedule in the country:

Check out Louisiana College...  a member of the ASC, they play 5 non conference games... 3 of them are against NCAA D1 teams, McNeese State, Northwestern State (La.), and Nicholls State, and their other 2 nonconference games are against NAIA-D1 LSU-Alexandria, who went 23-4 last year.   And for a little additional spice, they play an exhibition game against D1 Louisiana-Lafayette!!     AND they do this under new head coach Reni Mason, replacing Gene Rushing who had been at LC for the previous 29 years....   Tough introduction for Coach Mason....

Sure, but right now he's the campus hero as far as the Louisiana College administration is concerned:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fzbigniewklej.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F08%2F4-Ways-You-Can-Rake-In-The-Dough-With-Information-Products-You-Created.jpg&hash=e47f20704293d9264fec020fe4b5a6886f6560e7)
Postgame speech (https://www.facebook.com/wildcatsmedia/videos/10153712910862866/?permPage=1)
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lcwildcats.net%2Fimages%2F2015%2F11%2F17%2FDSC_8389.JPG&hash=bb569e4ae30ccbc1bd1901a19791c3338ea4b75b)
LC junior guard Dylan Brewer hits a go-ahead 3-pointer with 22 seconds left to put LC ahead 71-68 against McNeese on Tuesday night in Lake Charles
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nsmbl.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F08%2F4.gif&hash=218546a0203162a35a057bf1081e28ba1077fd56)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2015, 09:34:51 AM
Games of 11/17/15:

Pitt-Bradford  87,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  75            
Abilene Christian (NCAA-D1) 70, Howard Payne 56            
Louisiana College  73,  McNeese State  (NCAA-D1)  70            
Gordon  80,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  77            
Northeastern (NCAA-D1) 91, Wentworth 62            
Marywood  82,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  61            
Bluffton  85,  OSU Lima  (Other)  47            
Delaware Valley  90,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  63            
Minnesota-Moorhead (NCAA-D2) 90, Concordia-Moorhead 82            
Miami (Ohio) (NCAA-D1) 68, Kenyon 47            
Wabash  75,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  57            
Pacific  92,  New Hope Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  54            
Penn St.-New Kensington (USCAA) 70, Chatham 64            
St. Francis (Pa.) (NCAA-D1) 103, Westminster (Pa.) 72            
Chapman  102,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  66            
Occidental  68,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  50            
St. Francis (N.Y.) (NCAA-D1) 93, Mount St. Vincent 67            
McKendree (NCAA-D2) 90, Blackburn 88            
Eureka  100,  Emmaus  (other)  75            
Minnesota-Morris  82,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  64            
North Carolina Wesleyan  127,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  59   


YTD D3 versus   

                              W         L   
NCAA-D1                  1          13   
NCAA-D2                   0          6   
NAIA-D1                    2          1   
NAIA-D2                    4          10   
NCCAA-D1                2          0   
NCCAA-D2                6          0   
USCAA                      13          3   
Other                         4          0   
IND-D3 Provisional     7          0   

A win vs D1  !!!   Louisiana College over McNeese

AND we make up a little ground vs NAIA D2




      


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 19, 2015, 07:19:03 AM
Games of 11/18/15

Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 74, Maine-Presque Isle 58         
Bryant (NCAA-D1) 82, Emerson 69         
Mount Union  118,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  91         
UMSL (NCAA-D2) 77, Fontbonne 59         

YTD D3 versus
                               W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          14      
NCAA-D2                   0          7      
NAIA-D1                    2          1      
NAIA-D2                    4          10      
NCCAA-D1                2          0      
NCCAA-D2                6          0      
USCAA                      14          4      
Other                         4          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     7          0      

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2015, 02:02:47 PM
Games of 11/19/15


Wooster  89,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  48                  
Wells  79,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  74         
Randolph  85,  Christendom  (USCAA)  46         
Cal Lutheran  89,  Bristol  (USCAA)  62         

YTD  D3 versus...
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          14      
NCAA-D2                   0          7      
NAIA-D1                    2          1      
NAIA-D2                    4          10      
NCCAA-D1                2          0      
NCCAA-D2                6          0      
USCAA                      17          4      
Other                         4          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     8          0      


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2015, 11:14:35 AM
Games of 11/20/15

St. Edward's (NCAA-D2) 70, McMurry 57
Angelo State (NCAA-D2) 108, Schreiner 65
Buffalo State  100,  Villa Maria  (other)  91
Illinois College  77,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  70
Marian (Ind.) (NAIA-D2) 67, Hanover 50
Puget Sound  103,  New Hope Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  65
Sewanee  78,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  63
St. John's  83,  St. Cloud State  (NCAA-D2)  80
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 79, St. Scholastica 62
Susquehanna  97,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  73
King's  97,  Davis  (Other)  47
Wartburg  103,  Emmaus  (other)  46
LSU-Alexandria (NAIA-D1) 70, Louisiana College 56
Howard (NCAA-D1) 106, Medgar Evers 64
Hillsdale Free Will (NCCAA-D2) 93, Valley Forge 79
Bard  75,  Albany Pharmacy  (Other)  58
Grand Valley (NCAA-D2) 105, Olivet 57
Menlo (NAIA-D2) 101, Pacific 97
Rhodes  94,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  70
Sewanee  78,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  63
Occidental  77,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  64
Sarah Lawrence  92,  Pratt  (USCAA)  38
Davenport (NAIA-D2) 85, UW-Whitewater 74

YTD  D3 versus...
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          15      
NCAA-D2                   1          10      
NAIA-D1                    2          2      
NAIA-D2                    4          14      
NCCAA-D1                3          0      
NCCAA-D2                9          0      
USCAA                      19          4      
Other                         9          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     9          0      

D3 get 1st win this season vs NCAA D2... St John's beats St. Cloud State !!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on November 22, 2015, 11:40:33 AM
Just cleaning through some housekeeping items earlier in the week I'm pretty sure Abilene Christian is NCAA division 1.  I know they were last year unless they dropped back down.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2015, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: 7express on November 22, 2015, 11:40:33 AM
Just cleaning through some housekeeping items earlier in the week I'm pretty sure Abilene Christian is NCAA division 1.  I know they were last year unless they dropped back down.

You are right... thanks!.. will correct standings on posting of 11/21 games
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2015, 09:24:55 PM
Games of 11/21/15

Bluffton  87,  Villa Maria  (other)  65   
MacMurray  88,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  83   
Albion  86,  Berea  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  84   
Marian (Ind.) (NAIA-D2) 87, Otterbein 74   
Pacific Lutheran  100,  New Hope Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  67   
Capital  84,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  81   
Thomas  63,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  57   
Robert Morris (Chicago) (NAIA-D2) 71, Coe 68   
Valley City State (NAIA-D2) 98, UW-Superior 73   
UW-River Falls  81,  Minnesota Crookston  (NCAA-D2)  79   
UW-Stout  88,  Emmaus  (other)  51   
Texas College (NAIA-D1) 83, LeTourneau 81   
University of the Ozarks  93,  Central Christian  (NAIA-D2)  60   
Marywood  65,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  63   
Anderson 104,   Wilberforce (NAIA-D2) 79
Indiana-Northwest  (NAIA-D2)  94,   Manchester  84
Oberlin  71,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  62   
Valley Forge  80,  Crossroads College  (NCCAA-D2)  60   
Whitworth  84,  Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  54   
Penn St.-Dubois (USCAA) 89, Washington and Jefferson 83   
Northern Illinois (NCAA-D1) 100, Eureka 52   
Principia  71,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  58   
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA-D2) 92, LaGrange 87   
Piedmont  87,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  75   
Davenport (NAIA-D2) 73, UW-Platteville 61   


YTD D3 versus:
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          17      
NCAA-D2                   2          9      
NAIA-D1                    2          3      
NAIA-D2                    7          19      
NCCAA-D1                5          0      
NCCAA-D2                11          1      
USCAA                      21          5      
Other                         11          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     12          0      

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2015, 10:13:13 PM

Games of 11/22/15


Bates  86,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  65      
U.S. Naval Academy (NCAA-D1) 76, Goucher 47      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2015, 06:29:35 AM
Games of 11/23/15

University of the Ozarks  84,  Welch  (NCCAA-D2)  83
Wayland Baptist (NAIA-D1) 85, Sul Ross State 64
Webber International (NAIA-D2) 97, Franklin 95
Cal Lutheran  89,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  69
Iowa Wesleyan  88,  Maryville (Mo.)  (NCAA-D2)  87

YTD D3 versus:

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          18      
NCAA-D2                   3          9      
NAIA-D1                    2          4      
NAIA-D2                    7          20      
NCCAA-D1                5          0      
NCCAA-D2                12          1      
USCAA                      22          5      
Other                         12          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     12          0      

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 25, 2015, 07:22:01 AM
Games of 11/24/15

D'Youville  80,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  73
Lubbock Christian (NCAA-D2) 78, Sul Ross State 56
Houghton  94,  Villa Maria  (other)  70
Anderson  88,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  80
Eckerd (NCAA-D2) 82, Franklin 67
Wright State (NCAA-D1) 66, Mount St. Joseph 52
Maine-Presque Isle  80,  Central Maine CC  (Other)  68
Hood  85,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  56
Manhattanville  68,  Valley Forge  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  48
Adrian  76,  Siena Heights  (NAIA-D2)  62
Penn St. Mont alto (USCAA) 95, Wilson 71
Umass Lowell (NCAA-D1) 104, Wheelock 76
Emerson  76,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  68
Pacific Lutheran  130,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  52
James Madison (NCAA-D1) 106, Eastern Mennonite 74
Grove City  76,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  75
Regis (Col.) (NCAA-D2) 72, Colorado College 66
Hawaii Pacific (NCAA-D2) 82, Chapman 66
Occidental  82,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  49
Greenville  138,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  89
Presentation (NAIA-D2) 100, Minnesota-Morris 67
St. Cloud State (NCAA-D2) 98, Northland 56
LaGrange  103,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  80
UW-La Crosse  71,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  47


D3 YTD vs:

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          21      
NCAA-D2                   3          14      
NAIA-D1                    2          4      
NAIA-D2                    10          21      
NCCAA-D1                6          0      
NCCAA-D2                14          1      
USCAA                      24          6      
Other                         15          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     15          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2015, 08:13:24 AM
Games of 11/25

Northwestern State (La.) (NCAA-D1) 86, Louisiana College 80
Texas College (NAIA-D1) 101, Rust 92
Towson (NCAA-D1) 88, Gallaudet 45
Northwest (Wash.) (NAIA-D2) 97, George Fox 83
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1) 69, Thiel 55
Eastern Kentucky (NCAA-D1) 101, Thomas More 67
Centre  80,  Berea  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  66

YTD D3 vs
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          25      
NCAA-D2                   3          14      
NAIA-D1                    2          5      
NAIA-D2                    10          22      
NCCAA-D1                6          0      
NCCAA-D2                14          1      
USCAA                      24          6      
Other                         15          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     16          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: 7express on November 26, 2015, 11:47:53 AM
Louisiana College hanging in there against the D-1 state schools.  Beat McNeese outright, only lost by 6 to Northwestern State. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2015, 06:49:19 AM
Games of 11/27

Bluefield 75 (NAIA-D2), Methodist 54
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  65,  Bristol  (USCAA)  63
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 103, Calvin 72
Hope  95,  Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  61
Mass-Boston  74,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  70
Trinity (Conn.)  90,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  51
Nebraska Wesleyan (NAIA-D2) 101, Dubuque 88
Texas Permian Basin (NCAA-D2) 102, Sul Ross State 82

YTD D3 versus:

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          25      
NCAA-D2                   3          15      
NAIA-D1                    2          5      
NAIA-D2                    11          25      
NCCAA-D1                6          0      
NCCAA-D2                14          1      
USCAA                      27          6      
Other                         15          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     16          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2015, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx

I'm not sure of the formality... but when I checked their schedule, they play only 4 D3 games, and a full conference slate of NAIA games, so I put them in as NAIA d2... I see they're not listed on D3hoops West region page either....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 28, 2015, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 28, 2015, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx

I'm not sure of the formality... but when I checked their schedule, they play only 4 D3 games, and a full conference slate of NAIA games, so I put them in as NAIA d2... I see they're not listed on D3hoops West region page either....

Nebraska Wesleyan is (and has been for a long time) a dual member of both the NAIA and NCAA.  Next year they will be joining the Iowa Conference in d3, so there should be less controversy, but they are a d3 member.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on November 28, 2015, 05:36:51 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 28, 2015, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 28, 2015, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx

I'm not sure of the formality... but when I checked their schedule, they play only 4 D3 games, and a full conference slate of NAIA games, so I put them in as NAIA d2... I see they're not listed on D3hoops West region page either....

Nebraska Wesleyan is (and has been for a long time) a dual member of both the NAIA and NCAA.  Next year they will be joining the Iowa Conference in d3, so there should be less controversy, but they are a d3 member.
I don't see how there's any controversy as they play under the more restrictive rules of D3.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 28, 2015, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: AO on November 28, 2015, 05:36:51 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 28, 2015, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 28, 2015, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 28, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
So, officially, Nebraska Wesleyan is NAIA II? Some controversy over in the fantasy league page about their eligibility as a DIII member. On their website, one of their players won the Association of DIII independents award.

http://www.nwusports.com/news/2015/11/17/MBB_1117150552.aspx

I'm not sure of the formality... but when I checked their schedule, they play only 4 D3 games, and a full conference slate of NAIA games, so I put them in as NAIA d2... I see they're not listed on D3hoops West region page either....

Nebraska Wesleyan is (and has been for a long time) a dual member of both the NAIA and NCAA.  Next year they will be joining the Iowa Conference in d3, so there should be less controversy, but they are a d3 member.
I don't see how there's any controversy as they play under the more restrictive rules of D3.

Agreed.  And they do have some very worthy D3 history.  In 1997, IWU beat Neb Wes in a close battle in the title game in Salem.  They have at least a few other deep runs in the D3 tourney.  Due to geography, they joined an NAIA conference, but they have never totally abandoned D3, and will return almost entirely next season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2015, 03:50:45 AM
I understand all that. But do their results count as D3 in terms of the NCAA tourney process?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 29, 2015, 05:58:54 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2015, 03:50:45 AM
I understand all that. But do their results count as D3 in terms of the NCAA tourney process?

They are listed on NCAA.org as a member of NCAA D3 Men's basketball

http://web1.ncaa.org/onlineDir/exec2/sponsorship
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 29, 2015, 07:11:29 AM
Games of 11/28/15


Neumann  85,  Valley Forge  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  68
Cumberland (NAIA-D1) 69, Methodist 55
Pomona-Pitzer  92,  Bristol  (USCAA)  72
Aquinas (NAIA-D2) 87, Calvin 7
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 73, Hope 67
Nebraska Wesleyan (NAIA-D2) 107, Central 102
Roanoke  126,  Penn St.-New Kensington  (USCAA)  86
The Apprentice School (USCAA) 81, Southern Virginia 73
Wagner (NCAA-D1) 83, Staten Island 59
Wartburg  74,  Governors State  (NAIA-D2)  71
Cornell  71,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  60
Lake Forest  92,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  68
Davidson (NCAA-D1) 83, Denison 70
La Salle (NCAA-D1) 81, Rowan 51
Corban (NAIA-D2) 75, Willamette 74
BYU-Hawaii (NCAA-D2) 98, Chapman 82
Stony Brook (NCAA-D1) 91, Farmingdale State 42

YTD D3 vs:         
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          29      
NCAA-D2                   3          16      
NAIA-D1                    2          6      
NAIA-D2                    12          29      
NCCAA-D1                6          0      
NCCAA-D2                14          1      
USCAA                      30          7      
Other                         15          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     18          0      





Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 30, 2015, 02:51:19 AM
Games of 11/29

Goucher  94,  Penn St.-New Kensington  (USCAA)  59
Berea (Ind-D3 Provisional) 87, Wilmington 85


Wilmington is first D3 loss to Independent D3 Provisional team
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 30, 2015, 11:44:38 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 28, 2015, 09:39:27 PM
Agreed.  And they do have some very worthy D3 history.  In 1997, IWU beat Neb Wes in a close battle in the title game in Salem.  They have at least a few other deep runs in the D3 tourney.

NebWes made the Final Four three times in a four-year period in the '80s, finishing third in the nation in '85, '86, and '88. North Park beat NebWes in one of the '85 semifinals, so I got to see one of those Plainsmen teams; NWU forward Dana Janssen, an All-American, was a phenomenal player. Here's a Sports Illustrated article about those Plainsmen teams. (http://www.si.com/vault/1988/11/16/118879/plain-good-division-iii-nebraska-wesleyan-rolls-on)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 01, 2015, 08:03:58 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2015, 03:50:45 AM
I understand all that. But do their results count as D3 in terms of the NCAA tourney process?

Results against them count as d3 wins, as far as I know.  They often declare for the NAIA tourney, but I don't think that invalidates their status, it just prevents them from being included in Pool C.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2015, 08:40:51 AM
Results of 11/30/15

LSU-Alexandria (NAIA-D1) 100, Louisiana College 84
Centenary (N.J.)  81,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  52
Maine-Augusta (USCAA) 62, Maine-Presque Isle 61
Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional) 70, Morrisville State 50
Wabash  80,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  31

YTD D3 vs:
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          29      
NCAA-D2                   3          16      
NAIA-D1                    2          7      
NAIA-D2                    12          29      
NCCAA-D1                6          0      
NCCAA-D2                15          1      
USCAA                      32          8      
Other                         15          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     18          2      


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2015, 06:54:51 AM
Results of 12/1/15

Nicholls State (NCAA-D1) 80, Louisiana College 62
University of the Ozarks  120,  Crowley's Ridge  (NCCAA-D1)  60

Rust  NA,  Texas College  (NAIA-D1)  NA           This one could be tough to find... I emailed Rust... we'll see
             
Carthage  87,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  77
Wright State (NCAA-D1) 68, Albion 50
Crown  111,  Oak Hills Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  91
UW-Oshkosh  93,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  78


YTD D3 versus:

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          31      
NCAA-D2                   3          16      
NAIA-D1                    2          7      
NAIA-D2                    13          29      
NCCAA-D1                7          0      
NCCAA-D2                16          1      
USCAA                      32          8      
Other                         15          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     19          2      

BONUS!!!!

   D3 vs D3only            
               
1   UAA      33   11   0.750
2   MIAC      27   13   0.675
3   LEC      28   15   0.651
4   NESCAC      31   17   0.646
5   CCIW      21   12   0.636
6   Landmark      27   16   0.628
7   Newmac      27   16   0.628
8   NCAC      25   15   0.625
9   OAC      28   18   0.609
10   CAC      27   18   0.600
11   WIAC      21   14   0.600
12   SCIAC      15   10   0.600
13   USAC      25   17   0.595
14   MACC      26   18   0.591
15   MIAA      14   10   0.583
16   E8      26   19   0.578
17   ODAC      30   22   0.577
18   SUNY      23   17   0.575
19   NWC      18   14   0.563
20   NACC      15   13   0.536
21   Independents      16   14   0.533
22   CC      17   15   0.531
23   IIAC      18   16   0.529
24   MWC      12   11   0.522
25   CCC      25   23   0.521
26   ASC      16   15   0.516
27   NJAC      20   19   0.513
28   LL      21   20   0.512
29   MACF      21   20   0.512
30   SCAC      19   21   0.475
31   GNAC      19   23   0.452
32   CUNY      18   24   0.429
33   AMCC      15   21   0.417
34   NAC      15   23   0.395
35   Mascac      16   28   0.364
36   SAA      11   22   0.333
37   CSAC      12   25   0.324
38   HCAC      9   19   0.321
39   Sky      11   24   0.314
40   NECC      10   31   0.244
41   UMAC      8   25   0.242
42   PrAC      8   30   0.211
43   NEAC      10   38   0.208
44   SLIAC      6   28   0.176

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on December 02, 2015, 11:07:51 AM
Great work, especially on the bonus!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2015, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on December 02, 2015, 11:07:51 AM
Great work, especially on the bonus!

aaaahhh, but it hurts that I have to show my beloved SLIAC at No. 44 out of 44... ;D ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2015, 01:50:40 PM
If we have any south central reps that read this page, or just plain basketball detectives who want a challenge, I challenge you to find a Rust - Texas College score from 12/1  (note, they played once already at Texas College, on 11/25... though D3hoops doesn't have that game posted... Texas College won 101-92)... according to both schools, they were to play again at Rust on 12/1....my email has gone unanswered and I can't find anyone in either basketball office over the phone....the score is not on either site, or NCAA.com, or NAIA.org, or D3hoops... ???
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on December 02, 2015, 02:04:18 PM
 It was a neutral-court game in Area 51. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2015, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: ronk on December 02, 2015, 02:04:18 PM
It was a neutral-court game in Area 51. :)

The next stop....  The twilight zone
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 02, 2015, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: ronk on December 02, 2015, 02:04:18 PM
It was a neutral-court game in Area 51. :)

The next stop....  The twilight zone

Or Bizarro World.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 02, 2015, 11:16:57 PM
I know it's tough for SCIAC teams to find non-conference opponents, but I smiled when I saw Occidental's score updates against something called Future College.

Their mascot is the Orange Owlz, spelled that way. It looks like their academic offerings focus on sports management, sports therapy, etc. Yet when you try to click on the athletics link off the home page, it's a dead link.

Guess they'll add that in the future.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 02, 2015, 11:23:05 PM
Three things I love about Rust College, even though it's tough to find their scores.

1 - Years ago when I went looking for Rust scores, I would visit their athletics page just for fun. Not because it had scores, but because it had a MIDI file with Eye of the Tiger played on a 1980s synthesizer that started every time you load the page.

2 - They play Tougaloo College, which you can't say without smiling. Go ahead. Try it. I hope their mascot is the Electric Boogaloo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakin%27_2:_Electric_Boogaloo).

3 - They prominently feature all the awards they've received from D3hoops.com over the years and there's been a handful of Regional All-Stars. I gather that they have some good players but not a lot of staff resources.

Note to Pat: Invite Rust to the D3hoops.com Classic in Vegas next year and have them play Future College!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2015, 11:24:49 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on December 02, 2015, 11:16:57 PM
I know it's tough for SCIAC teams to find non-conference opponents, but I smiled when I saw Occidental's score updates against something called Future College.

Their mascot is the Orange Owlz, spelled that way. It looks like their academic offerings focus on sports management, sports therapy, etc. Yet when you try to click on the athletics link off the home page, it's a dead link.

Guess they'll add that in the future.

I had a similar experience going to a school's website where the athletic records had not been updated since 2012 - probably tells you all you need to know about their competitiveness! :P

And who in their right mind would go to "Future College"?  Don't you want a college, like, now?! ::)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2015, 11:30:51 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on December 02, 2015, 11:23:05 PM
Three things I love about Rust College, even though it's tough to find their scores.

1 - Years ago when I went looking for Rust scores, I would visit their athletics page just for fun. Not because it had scores, but because it had a MIDI file with Eye of the Tiger played on a 1980s synthesizer that started every time you load the page.

2 - They play Tougaloo College, which you can't say without smiling. Go ahead. Try it. I hope their mascot is the Electric Boogaloo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakin%27_2:_Electric_Boogaloo).

3 - They prominently feature all the awards they've received from D3hoops.com over the years and there's been a handful of Regional All-Stars. I gather that they have some good players but not a lot of staff resources.

Note to Pat: Invite Rust to the D3hoops.com Classic in Vegas next year and have them play Future College!

We used to have a regular poster from there, and I got the impression he was an asst. coach, not just a fan (though I may be wrong on that).  I wonder if we will see him again.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2015, 07:35:54 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2015, 11:30:51 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on December 02, 2015, 11:23:05 PM
Three things I love about Rust College, even though it's tough to find their scores.

1 - Years ago when I went looking for Rust scores, I would visit their athletics page just for fun. Not because it had scores, but because it had a MIDI file with Eye of the Tiger played on a 1980s synthesizer that started every time you load the page.

2 - They play Tougaloo College, which you can't say without smiling. Go ahead. Try it. I hope their mascot is the Electric Boogaloo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakin%27_2:_Electric_Boogaloo).

3 - They prominently feature all the awards they've received from D3hoops.com over the years and there's been a handful of Regional All-Stars. I gather that they have some good players but not a lot of staff resources.

Note to Pat: Invite Rust to the D3hoops.com Classic in Vegas next year and have them play Future College!

We used to have a regular poster from there, and I got the impression he was an asst. coach, not just a fan (though I may be wrong on that).  I wonder if we will see him again.

Yes that fellow is gone... he posted under the moniker 'Rust College' and took some serious grief here for his avid support of Rust players for all American status... I actually met him several times as Rust plays Webster regularly (Webster Coach Chris Bunch had coached at Maryville, Tenn, where he had built a relationship with Rust)... Can't remember the fellow's name, but he was men's assistant, then got the Women's head coaching job, lasted 2 years, then was gone...

Rust plays solid Men's basketball... the rest of their athletic department is pretty much a shambles... that's why the SAA or SCAC would never be able to consider taking them in....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2015, 08:08:47 AM
Games of 12/2/15

Roberts Wesleyan (NCAA-D2) 59, Hobart 58
Indiana Southeast (NAIA-D2) 105, Transylvania 95
Dubuque  84,  Clarke  (NAIA-D2)  77
Mount Mercy (NAIA-D2) 99, Luther 87
Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 75, Simpson 67
Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional) 77, Penn College 71
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  77,  San Diego Christian  (NAIA-D1)  76
Occidental  101,  Future College  (Other)  60
Minnesota-Morris  80,  Mayville State  (NAIA-D2)  74
Averett  91,  Johnson and Wales (N.C.)  (USCAA)  73
Maryville (Tenn.)  110,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  105
North Carolina Wesleyan  91,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  53


YTD D3 vs:

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          31      
NCAA-D2                   3          17      
NAIA-D1                    3          7      
NAIA-D2                    15          32      
NCCAA-D1                7          0      
NCCAA-D2                17          1      
USCAA                      34          8      
Other                         16          0      
IND-D3 Provisional     19          3      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2015, 08:44:23 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 03, 2015, 07:35:54 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 02, 2015, 11:30:51 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on December 02, 2015, 11:23:05 PM
Three things I love about Rust College, even though it's tough to find their scores.

1 - Years ago when I went looking for Rust scores, I would visit their athletics page just for fun. Not because it had scores, but because it had a MIDI file with Eye of the Tiger played on a 1980s synthesizer that started every time you load the page.

2 - They play Tougaloo College, which you can't say without smiling. Go ahead. Try it. I hope their mascot is the Electric Boogaloo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakin%27_2:_Electric_Boogaloo).

3 - They prominently feature all the awards they've received from D3hoops.com over the years and there's been a handful of Regional All-Stars. I gather that they have some good players but not a lot of staff resources.

Note to Pat: Invite Rust to the D3hoops.com Classic in Vegas next year and have them play Future College!

We used to have a regular poster from there, and I got the impression he was an asst. coach, not just a fan (though I may be wrong on that).  I wonder if we will see him again.

Yes that fellow is gone... he posted under the moniker 'Rust College' and took some serious grief here for his avid support of Rust players for all American status... I actually met him several times as Rust plays Webster regularly (Webster Coach Chris Bunch had coached at Maryville, Tenn, where he had built a relationship with Rust)... Can't remember the fellow's name, but he was men's assistant, then got the Women's head coaching job, lasted 2 years, then was gone...

Rust plays solid Men's basketball... the rest of their athletic department is pretty much a shambles... that's why the SAA or SCAC would never be able to consider taking them in....

Ato Green. He was a useful source. Bummed he's not there anymore. :(
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2015, 02:40:09 AM
Games of 12/3

Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 70, SUNY-Cobleskill 64
Whittier  111,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  79

Games of 12/4

Greensboro  84,  Columbia International  (NCCAA-D1)  70
North Carolina Wesleyan  110,  Maryland Bible  (Other)  53
Pomona-Pitzer  84,  Antelope Valley  (Other)  78
Redlands  78,  Life Pacific  (NCCAA-D1)  65
Roberts Wesleyan (NCAA-D2) 85, Geneseo State 82
Grace Bible (NCCAA-D2) 93, Maranatha Baptist 67


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2015, 06:14:37 AM
Games of 12/5

Coast Guard  92,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  91
Greensboro  60,  Maryland Bible  (Other)  44
North Carolina Wesleyan  92,  Columbia International  (NCCAA-D1)  68
Norwich  83,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  74
Pomona-Pitzer  77,  Life Pacific  (NCCAA-D1)  72
Antelope Valley (Other) 84, Redlands 72
Roberts Wesleyan (NCAA-D2) 79, Rochester 77
North Park  81,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  69
Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 77, Luther 76
Maranatha Baptist  83,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  75
LaGrange  103,  Auburn Montgomery  (NAIA-D1)  85
St. Augustine's (NCAA-D2) 90, William Peace 70

YTD D3 vs

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          31      
NCAA-D2                   3          20      
NAIA-D1                    4          7      
NAIA-D2                    16          33      
NCCAA-D1                11          0      
NCCAA-D2                19          2      
USCAA                      35          9      
Other                         19          1      
IND-D3 Provisional     20          3      

And let's see D3 vs non conference D3:

1   UAA      38   14   0.731
2   NESCAC      40   19   0.678
3   LEC      31   16   0.660
4   MIAC      27   14   0.659
5   Landmark      27   16   0.628
6   NCAC      25   15   0.625
7   SCIAC      16   10   0.615
8   CCIW      28   18   0.609
9   OAC      28   18   0.609
10   USAC      30   20   0.600
11   SUNY      27   18   0.600
12   Newmac      31   21   0.596
13   CAC      29   20   0.592
14   MACC      26   18   0.591
15   MIAA      20   14   0.588
16   NWC      18   14   0.563
17   NACC      15   12   0.556
18   ODAC      31   25   0.554
19   IIAC      21   17   0.553
20   WIAC      23   20   0.535
21   CC      17   15   0.531
22   CCC      25   23   0.521
23   NJAC      20   19   0.513
24   ASC      21   20   0.512
25   MACF      21   20   0.512
26   E8      28   28   0.500
27   LL      27   27   0.500
28   Independents      19   19   0.500
29   MWC      12   12   0.500
30   SCAC      21   22   0.488
31   CUNY      21   25   0.457
32   GNAC      20   24   0.455
33   AMCC      15   22   0.405
34   NAC      15   25   0.375
35   Mascac      20   34   0.370
36   SAA      14   25   0.359
37   CSAC      12   25   0.324
38   HCAC      10   21   0.323
39   Sky      11   25   0.306
40   NECC      12   32   0.273
41   UMAC      9   26   0.257
42   PAC      8   30   0.211
43   NEAC      10   39   0.204
44   SLIAC      6   28   0.176

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2015, 05:25:33 AM
Games of 12/6/15

Connecticut College  85,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  83            
Maine-Augusta (USCAA) 85, Rivier 79            
SUNY-Canton  74,  Albany Pharmacy  (Other)  36                        
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2015, 05:40:17 AM
Quick comment... when I look at the D3 vs D3 nonconference, the biggest surprise to me is the dismal record the HCAC is sporting, at 10-21.... I used to think of the HCAC (mostly Indiana schools) as an upper-middle level conference... certainly higher than the MWC, the NACC, and the SLIAC, and similar to the MIAA, OAC, and NCAC....  I'm not sure what recent years show us, but this season, they're far behind all that I mentioned with the exception of the SLIAC... With Indiana's rich hoops tradition, it's disappointing that the conference's D3hoops has fallen to this level...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 07, 2015, 06:26:12 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 07, 2015, 05:40:17 AM
Quick comment... when I look at the D3 vs D3 nonconference, the biggest surprise to me is the dismal record the HCAC is sporting, at 10-21.... I used to think of the HCAC (mostly Indiana schools) as an upper-middle level conference... certainly higher than the MWC, the NACC, and the SLIAC, and similar to the MIAA, OAC, and NCAC....  I'm not sure what recent years show us, but this season, they're far behind all that I mentioned with the exception of the SLIAC... With Indiana's rich hoops tradition, it's disappointing that the conference's D3hoops has fallen to this level...
No one here would love to see the HCAC do better than me. 10-21 is certainly better than the football record (4-13 this year I believe might be the best of the past several years).
It seems like there's usually one team that has a decent season (somewhere around 24-4) followed by a first round loss, a couple others who are in contention to win the conference tournament (maybe around 20-8 or 19-9), a few average teams (14-12 to 12-14), and a few dreadful teams (6 or fewer wins). Last year did have a bright spot when Defiance knocked off Whitewater in the first round of the tournament... although that's one of the non-Indiana schools.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 07, 2015, 06:51:52 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 07, 2015, 05:40:17 AM
Quick comment... when I look at the D3 vs D3 non-conference, the biggest surprise to me is the dismal record the HCAC is sporting, at 10-21.... I used to think of the HCAC (mostly Indiana schools) as an upper-middle level conference... certainly higher than the MWC, the NACC, and the SLIAC, and similar to the MIAA, OAC, and NCAC....  I'm not sure what recent years show us, but this season, they're far behind all that I mentioned with the exception of the SLIAC... With Indiana's rich hoops tradition, it's disappointing that the conference's D3hoops has fallen to this level...

The NAIA Crossroads Conference made up of 8 Indiana schools, 1 from Michigan, 1 from Ohio is annually probably the best in NAIA II.  Throw in a number of other NAIA's a healthy group of D2's and the state's University system of D1's and its a pretty crowded state.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 07, 2015, 01:18:19 PM
Oh, and Valpo, Butler and Evansville, which are private D-1s. (And Notre Dame, but that's rather a national D-1 school in recruiting - Valpo, Butler and Evansville work the state somewhat).

The HCAC always has a couple of stinkers - Earlham for one can't catch a break it seems.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 08, 2015, 08:39:43 AM
Games of 12/7

Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 82, Daniel Webster 74
Puget Sound  91,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  56

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
Games of 12/8:

Coe  95,  Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  82
New Hampshire (NCAA-D1) 100, Worcester State 66
Grace Bible (NCCAA-D2) 92, Calvin 88
Pacific  75,  Evergreen St.  (NAIA-D2)  60
Pacific Lutheran  68,  Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  61
Colorado College  81,  Johnson & Wales (Col.)  (NAIA-D2)  58
Chapman  77,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  72
Missouri S&T (NCAA-D2) 104, Blackburn 91

We go 4-0 vs NAIA-D2, narrowing the magin

YTD D3 vs:

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          32      
NCAA-D2                   3          21      
NAIA-D1                    4          7      
NAIA-D2                    22          33      
NCCAA-D1                11          0      
NCCAA-D2                21          3      
USCAA                      35          11      
Other                         20          1      
IND-D3 Provisional     20          3      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 09, 2015, 03:45:49 PM

Did we ever get that Rust - Texas College score?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2015, 05:24:04 PM
Woo hoo  thanks for reminding me... it is now up on the Texas College site, and Rust WON 88-81, after being defeated at Texas College on the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving 101-92
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2015, 06:58:12 AM
Games of 12/9/15:

Fisher (NAIA-D2) 77, Fitchburg State 70
Kalamazoo  70,  Lawrence Tech  (NAIA-D2)  64
Thomas  91,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  83
Keuka  95,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  64
Lewis and Clark  NA,  Evergreen St.  (NAIA-D2)  NA  Postponed... Landslide closed major road!!
Whitman  101,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  65
Emory and Henry  97,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  80
Bethesda (NCCAA-D1) 59, Cal Lutheran 56
Coastal Carolina (NCAA-D1) 98, North Carolina Wesleyan 73
UW-Eau Claire  66,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2015, 09:21:42 AM
Games of 12/10/15:

Sul Ross State  100,  Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  96
Colgate (NCAA-D1) 90, Utica 68
Houghton  84,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  83
Central  72,  Grand View  (NAIA-D1)  70
Maine-Presque Isle  89,  Unity  (USCAA)  69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2015, 09:23:05 AM
Games of 12/11/15:

Eastern Mennonite  74,  Virginia-Lynchburg  (Other)  59
Juniata  71,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  61
The Apprentice School (USCAA) 84, King's 77
Moravian  88,  Penn State Lehigh Valley  (USCAA)  64
Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional) 80, Knox 63
Albion  75,  Spring Arbor  (NAIA-D2)  74
Lakeland  89,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  59
Evergreen St. (NAIA-D2) 93, Pacific Lutheran 83
Chapman  85,  Life Pacific  (NCCAA-D1)  61
Whittier  89,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  65
Piedmont  71,  Johnson (Fla.)  (NCCAA-D2)  61
Bethany Lutheran  84,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  83
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2015, 10:58:31 AM
Games of 12/12/15:

Virginia-Lynchburg (Other) 53, Bridgewater (Va.) 51
Carnegie Mellon  90,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  51
Susquehanna  90,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  61
RPI  95,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  37
Buena Vista  95,  Northwestern (Iowa)  (NAIA-D2)  80
Mount Mercy (NAIA-D2) 85, Wartburg 75
Crossroads College (NCCAA-D2) 79, Maranatha Baptist 74
Alfred State  88,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  69
Gallaudet  81,  Valley Forge  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  52
Indiana Wesleyan (NAIA-D2) 94, Olivet 59
Trine  78,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  52
Kutztown (NCAA-D2) 115, Penn State-Berks 75
Austin  85,  Bacone  (NAIA-D1)  72
Cal State San Bernadino (NCAA-D2) 72, Pomona-Pitzer 63

YTD D3 Vs

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          34      
NCAA-D2                   3          23      
NAIA-D1                    7          7      
NAIA-D2                    27          37      
NCCAA-D1                12          1      
NCCAA-D2                27          4      
USCAA                      44          12      
Other                         21          2      
IND-D3 Provisional     22          4      


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2015, 08:16:30 AM
Games of 12/13/15

Massachusetts College  77,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  65
Elon (NCAA-D1) 106, Wesley 77
Coe  89,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  85
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2015, 07:29:07 AM
Games of 12/14

Angelo State (NCAA-D2) 115, McMurry 68
Johnson and Wales  104,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  75
Purdue-North Central (NAIA-D2) 77, Maranatha Baptist 53
Austin  106,  Paul Quinn  (NAIA-D1)  84
Greensboro  75,  Johnson and Wales (N.C.)  (USCAA)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 16, 2015, 06:01:50 PM
Games of 12/15/2015

Youngstown State (NCAA-D1) 99, Geneva 58
Wayland Baptist (NAIA-D1) 113, Southwestern 99
St. Scholastica  62,  Crossroads College  (NCCAA-D2)  60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2015, 06:58:05 AM
Games of 12/16/15

Sul Ross State  83,  Southwest (N.M.)  (NAIA-D1)  75
Nova Southeastern (NCAA-D2) 81, Eastern 70
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 102, Mitchell 63
Occidental  80,  Bristol  (USCAA)  68

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on December 17, 2015, 10:55:40 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 06, 2015, 06:14:37 AM
And let's see D3 vs non conference D3:

1   UAA      38   14   0.731
2   NESCAC      40   19   0.678
3   LEC      31   16   0.660
4   MIAC      27   14   0.659
5   Landmark      27   16   0.628
6   NCAC      25   15   0.625
7   SCIAC      16   10   0.615
8   CCIW      28   18   0.609
9   OAC      28   18   0.609
10   USAC      30   20   0.600
11   SUNY      27   18   0.600
12   Newmac      31   21   0.596
13   CAC      29   20   0.592
14   MACC      26   18   0.591
15   MIAA      20   14   0.588
16   NWC      18   14   0.563
17   NACC      15   12   0.556
18   ODAC      31   25   0.554
19   IIAC      21   17   0.553
20   WIAC      23   20   0.535
21   CC      17   15   0.531
22   CCC      25   23   0.521
23   NJAC      20   19   0.513
24   ASC      21   20   0.512
25   MACF      21   20   0.512
26   E8      28   28   0.500
27   LL      27   27   0.500
28   Independents      19   19   0.500
29   MWC      12   12   0.500
30   SCAC      21   22   0.488
31   CUNY      21   25   0.457
32   GNAC      20   24   0.455
33   AMCC      15   22   0.405
34   NAC      15   25   0.375
35   Mascac      20   34   0.370
36   SAA      14   25   0.359
37   CSAC      12   25   0.324
38   HCAC      10   21   0.323
39   Sky      11   25   0.306
40   NECC      12   32   0.273
41   UMAC      9   26   0.257
42   PAC      8   30   0.211
43   NEAC      10   39   0.204
44   SLIAC      6   28   0.176

Can you update this when you get a chance.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2015, 12:51:12 PM
Will update D3 vs D3 after weekend games... ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on December 17, 2015, 06:12:06 PM
^^ Thanks.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2015, 11:34:35 AM
Games of 12/17

Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional) 83, Rose-Hulman 78  ..... ugh!!!
Linfield  106,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  41
Emory and Henry  113,  Montreat  (NAIA-D2)  73
Averett  90,  Virginia-Wise  (NCAA-D2)  83     ............  YIPPEE!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 18, 2015, 04:15:03 PM

So the NCAA has great sortable stats this year, including a report of every school's record against teams in other NCAA divisions and non-NCAA schools

http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div

If you select men's basketball, d3, misc reports, and non-conference, you'll see what's there.  Lots of good stuff on that site now.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on December 18, 2015, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2015, 11:34:35 AM
Games of 12/17

Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional) 83, Rose-Hulman 78  ..... ugh!!!
Linfield  106,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  41
Emory and Henry  113,  Montreat  (NAIA-D2)  73
Averett  90,  Virginia-Wise  (NCAA-D2)  83     ............  YIPPEE!!!

Averett is doing pretty well this season so far: 8-2 overall, 5-2 vs ODAC teams with the two losses to probably the two best ODAC teams, Va. Wesleyan and Lynchburg. Averett might be a team to watch.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 18, 2015, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2015, 11:34:35 AM
Games of 12/17

Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional) 83, Rose-Hulman 78  ..... ugh!!!
Linfield  106,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  41
Emory and Henry  113,  Montreat  (NAIA-D2)  73
Averett  90,  Virginia-Wise  (NCAA-D2)  83     ............  YIPPEE!!!

Genuinely curious, is there a Virginia-Unwise?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2015, 10:45:45 PM
Quote from: sac on December 18, 2015, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2015, 11:34:35 AM
Games of 12/17

Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional) 83, Rose-Hulman 78  ..... ugh!!!
Linfield  106,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  41
Emory and Henry  113,  Montreat  (NAIA-D2)  73
Averett  90,  Virginia-Wise  (NCAA-D2)  83     ............  YIPPEE!!!

Genuinely curious, is there a Virginia-Unwise?
Would that be Virginia Intermont?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2015, 10:28:39 AM
Games of 12/18

Berea (Ind-D3 Provisional) 76, Belhaven 63
Wayland Baptist (NAIA-D1) 103, McMurry 91
William And Mary (NCAA-D1) 94, Mary Washington 64
Bluffton  98,  Ohio Midwestern  (USCAA)  55
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 80, Minnesota-Morris 75

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 19, 2015, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2015, 10:45:45 PM
Quote from: sac on December 18, 2015, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2015, 11:34:35 AM
Games of 12/17

Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional) 83, Rose-Hulman 78  ..... ugh!!!
Linfield  106,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  41
Emory and Henry  113,  Montreat  (NAIA-D2)  73
Averett  90,  Virginia-Wise  (NCAA-D2)  83     ............  YIPPEE!!!

Genuinely curious, is there a Virginia-Unwise?
Would that be Virginia Intermont?

you win!  :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on December 20, 2015, 06:26:08 PM
UVA - Wise is part of the University of Virginia in Wise, VA.  It has nothing to do with VI.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 21, 2015, 06:46:10 AM
Well, at least SAC appreciates my humor... ::) ::)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 21, 2015, 06:51:20 AM
Scores of 12/19

Birmingham-Southern  86,  Berea  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  73
Webster  71,  Trinity Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  63
Pennsylvania (NCAA-D1) 73, Ursinus 66
Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 69, Wartburg 60
Colgate (NCAA-D1) 90, Keuka 40
San Diego Christian (NAIA-D1) 88, Pomona-Pitzer 75
Southern Indiana (NCAA-D2) 84, Spalding 55
Presbyterian (NCAA-D1) 69, Piedmont 65
UW-River Falls  89,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  82
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 21, 2015, 07:42:16 AM
Scores of 12/20

Webster  60,  Ave Maria  (NAIA-D2)  47
Western Oregon (NCAA-D2) 85, Willamette 50


YTD  D3 vs:

                                 W         L
NCAA-D1                  1          40
NCAA-D2                   4          26
NAIA-D1                    8          10
NAIA-D2                    31          40
NCCAA-D1                12          1
NCCAA-D2                30          4
USCAA                      47          12
Other                         21          2
IND-D3 Provisional     24          6

D3 vs D3only            
            
NESCAC      58   22   0.725
UAA      45   19   0.703
MIAC      32   15   0.681
NCAC      28   15   0.651
CCIW      46   26   0.639
OAC      30   18   0.625
SUNY      35   22   0.614
USAC      42   27   0.609
LEC      37   25   0.597
Landmark      34   23   0.596
SCIAC      19   13   0.594
CAC      32   22   0.593
NWC      26   18   0.591
Newmac      40   28   0.588
MACF      32   24   0.571
NJAC      26   20   0.565
NACC      19   15   0.559
ODAC      41   33   0.554
CCC      30   25   0.545
SCAC      33   28   0.541
MACC      31   27   0.534
WIAC      32   28   0.533
CC      24   21   0.533
IIAC      28   25   0.528
ASC      23   22   0.511
MIAA      27   26   0.509
MWC      17   18   0.486
E8      32   34   0.485
LL      31   35   0.470
CUNY      23   27   0.460
GNAC      24   32   0.429
Independents      23   34   0.404
Mascac      26   40   0.394
AMCC      16   27   0.372
HCAC      13   25   0.342
NAC      16   32   0.333
NECC      19   39   0.328
SAA      19   40   0.322
CSAC      15   35   0.300
Sky      11   27   0.289
UMAC      12   32   0.273
PrAC      11   34   0.244
NEAC      16   50   0.242
SLIAC      9   35   0.205

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on December 21, 2015, 08:02:45 AM
^^ Thanks.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 23, 2015, 12:27:08 AM
Games of 12/21/15

Olivet  80,  Grace Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  74
Texas St. (NCAA-D1) 92, Howard Payne 43
Chapman  80,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 23, 2015, 12:40:22 AM
Games of 12/22/15

Hope  98,  Grace Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  83
Cornell  68,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  62
Hartford (NCAA-D1) 69, Widener 46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 29, 2015, 07:39:30 AM
Games of 12/28/15

Boston University (NCAA-D1) 86, Kean 53
High Point (NCAA-D1) 96, Methodist 50
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2015, 09:24:14 AM
Games of 12/29/15

Dubuque  67,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  51
Mount Mercy (NAIA-D2) 78, Simpson 74
Chapman  77,  Bristol  (USCAA)  55
Lamar (NCAA-D1) 97, Howard Payne 74
Pacific  100,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  48
Corban (NAIA-D2) 74, Linfield 71
Concordia (Cal.) (NAIA-D1) 73, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 59
Pomona-Pitzer  87,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 31, 2015, 08:53:59 AM
Games of 12/30/15

Dubuque  85,  Mount Mercy  (NAIA-D2)  72
Simpson  78,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  72
Whittier  94,  Bristol  (USCAA)  66
Alcorn (NCAA-D1) 81, Louisiana College 69
North Central (Ill.)  69,  Robert Morris (Chicago)  (NAIA-D2)  65
Adrian  76,  Michigan-Dearborn  (NAIA-D2)  58
Mount Vernon Nazarene (NAIA-D2) 96, Kenyon 76
VMI (NCAA-D1) 72, Bridgewater (Va.) 37
Edinboro (NCAA-D2) 78, Thiel 72
Austin Peay (NCAA-D1) 112, Westminster (Mo.) 61


YTD D3 versus:
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          48      
NCAA-D2                   4          28      
NAIA-D1                    9          11      
NAIA-D2                    35          44      
NCCAA-D1                13          1      
NCCAA-D2                33          4      
USCAA                      50          12      
Other                         21          2      
IND-D3 Provisional     27          6      

   D3 vs D3only            
               
1   NESCAC      69   27   0.719
2   UAA      51   21   0.708
3   MIAC      35   17   0.673
4   NCAC      38   19   0.667
5   CCIW      55   30   0.647
6   Landmark      42   23   0.646
7   OAC      38   22   0.633
8   NWC      36   21   0.632
9   SUNY      39   24   0.619
10   USAC      48   31   0.608
11   WIAC      46   32   0.590
12   Newmac      43   30   0.589
13   ODAC      52   38   0.578
14   CAC      38   28   0.576
15   MACF      36   27   0.571
16   LEC      39   30   0.565
17   SCAC      42   33   0.560
18   NJAC      29   24   0.547
19   MACC      37   32   0.536
20   MIAA      35   31   0.530
21   IIAC      35   32   0.522
22   NACC      24   22   0.522
23   CC      28   27   0.509
24   E8      36   37   0.493
25   CCC      30   31   0.492
26   MWC      22   24   0.478
27   SCIAC      21   23   0.477
28   CUNY      28   33   0.459
29   LL      33   39   0.458
30   ASC      26   31   0.456
31   GNAC      24   34   0.414
32   Independents      28   40   0.412
33   Mascac      30   43   0.411
34   NECC      20   40   0.333
35   NAC      16   32   0.333
36   SAA      24   50   0.324
37   HCAC      18   38   0.321
38   AMCC      16   34   0.320
39   CSAC      17   39   0.304
40   Sky      13   33   0.283
41   UMAC      13   36   0.265
42   PrAC      16   45   0.262
43   SLIAC      11   36   0.234
44   NEAC      16   54   0.229



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2016, 06:50:03 AM
Games of 12/31/15

University of the Ozarks  102,  Champion Baptist  (Other)  55
Maine-Presque Isle  74,  Villa Maria  (other)  68
Missouri S&T (NCAA-D2) 97, Principia 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 03, 2016, 07:26:27 AM
Not many of these games remaining as conference action gets into full swing this week....

Games of 1/2

Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 93, DeSales 89
Chicago  85,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  65
Purdue-Calumet (NAIA-D2) 54, Olivet 52
Kent State (NCAA-D1) 104, Oberlin 58
Lewis and Clark  88,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 04, 2016, 12:54:52 AM
Games of 1/3 16

Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 83, Stockton 76
St. Joseph's (Ind.) (NCAA-D2) 101, Kalamazoo 86
Truman State (NCAA-D2) 103, Iowa Wesleyan 64
North Carolina Wesleyan  104,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 05, 2016, 08:21:22 AM
Games of 1/4/16

Delaware State (NCAA-D1) 93, Summit 44
Campbellsville (NAIA-D1) 84, Wilmington 64
Sewanee  65,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  50
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 07, 2016, 06:57:12 AM
Games of 1/6... there were no games on 1/5

Aurora  79,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  68
Keuka  67,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  58
Minnesota Duluth (NCAA-D2) 89, UW-Superior 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 09, 2016, 09:19:46 AM
Games of 1/8... no games on 1/7

Yale (NCAA-D1) 94, Daniel Webster 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 11, 2016, 07:58:53 AM
Rust at Fisk, Saturday night  1/9... any inside information?   ;D ;D ;D  Finding that score may take some phone calls!!! Maybe I need to go down to Holly Springs, Ms to see the rematch at Rust...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 11, 2016, 08:41:55 AM
Games of 1/9/16:

Maranatha Baptist  89,  Crossroads College  (NCCAA-D2)  86
Rust  NA,  Fisk  (NAIA-D1)  NA
UC Santa Cruz  90,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  82
Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional) 89, SUNYIT 71
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 69, Hobart 64
King's  87,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  59
Misericordia  82,  Mansfield State  (NCAA-D2)  67
Cazenovia  83,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  60
Brown (NCAA-D1) 69, Daniel Webster 43
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 11, 2016, 03:00:33 PM
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fisk.edu%2Ffiles%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F1447189014_Glover_mbball.jpg&hash=d5ba2883bf0bc9c928a2bda93f0b6ae2367a4929)

The Fisk coach frowns on your shenanigans...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 11, 2016, 03:03:19 PM
Fisk 91, Rust 72 based on info from the AII website:

http://www.aiisports.com/sport/0/6.php

Go to the recent events tab.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 11, 2016, 07:29:04 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 11, 2016, 03:03:19 PM
Fisk 91, Rust 72 based on info from the AII website:

http://www.aiisports.com/sport/0/6.php

Go to the recent events tab.

Great job Smeds   +1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 12, 2016, 08:27:44 AM
Games of 1/11/16


Cazenovia  94,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  85
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 84, Wheaton (Mass.) 73
Winthrop (NCAA-D1) 81, Ferrum 63
University of the Ozarks  114,  Southwestern Adventist  (Other)  83
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 13, 2016, 02:09:57 PM
Games of 1/12/16

University of Dallas  88,  Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  79
Maryville (Tenn.)  99,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  67
Piedmont  90,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  69




Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 14, 2016, 07:21:09 PM
Games of 1/13

Hilbert  81,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  61            
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 16, 2016, 03:39:09 AM
Games of 1/14/16

Pine Manor  118,  Albany Pharmacy  (Other)  54
Maranatha Baptist  77,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 16, 2016, 03:40:29 AM
Games of 1/15/16

Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 78, Maine-Presque Isle 57
Northland  82,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 17, 2016, 08:18:41 PM
Games of 1/16/16

Dartmouth (NCAA-D1) 121, Pine Manor 56
Tougaloo  (NAIA-D1)  89, Rust 71
Villa Maria (other) 87, SUNY-Canton 86
LaGrange  90,  Columbia International  (NCCAA-D1)  52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 18, 2016, 11:31:41 AM
Games of 1/17/16

Villa Maria (other) 73, Maine-Presque Isle 71
Linfield  81,  New Hope Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 19, 2016, 06:28:05 AM
Games of 1/18

Cairn  81,  Valley Forge  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  72
Pine Manor  101,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  72
Oberlin  81,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  61
Nebraska Wesleyan (NAIA-D2) 85, Westminster (Mo.) 72
Presentation (NAIA-D2) 84, Minnesota-Morris 81
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 21, 2016, 07:51:00 AM
Games of 1/19

Silver Lake (USCAA) 66, Maranatha Baptist 62
Pacific Union (NAIA-D2) 88, UC Santa Cruz 82
Colorado College  88,  Johnson & Wales (Col.)  (NAIA-D2)  75
North Central (Minn.)  91,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 21, 2016, 08:10:02 AM
Games of 1/20

SUNY-Canton  87,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  77
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 22, 2016, 05:56:55 AM
Games of 1/21


Texas-Tyler  82,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  67
Maine-Presque Isle  70,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  66

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 25, 2016, 05:50:36 AM
Games of 1/23

Maine-Presque Isle  72,  Southern Maine CC  (Other)  64
Alfred State  98,  Davis  (Other)  62
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 99, Massachusetts College 85
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 25, 2016, 06:13:52 AM
Games of 1/24

Maine-Presque Isle  78,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  54
SUNY-Canton  80,  SUNY-Delhi  (USCAA)  51
Princeton (NCAA-D1) 100, Bryn Athyn 44
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 26, 2016, 11:29:25 AM
Games of 1/25


University of the Ozarks  94,  Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  78
University of Dallas  76,  Southwestern Adventist  (Other)  74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 26, 2016, 07:11:08 PM
When you get a chance, hopefan, can you update the D3-vs.-everybody-else standings?

(Please don't do this on your smartphone while you're driving from one remote SLIAC gym to another. ;))
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 26, 2016, 11:04:18 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 26, 2016, 07:11:08 PM
When you get a chance, hopefan, can you update the D3-vs.-everybody-else standings?

(Please don't do this on your smartphone while you're driving from one remote SLIAC gym to another. ;))

Will get to it tomorrow.... Before I take off for Greenville... ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 27, 2016, 06:47:12 AM
Games of 1/26

Lancaster Bible  100,  Valley Forge  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  75
Green Mountain  95,  Albany Pharmacy  (Other)  74
Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 86, Martin Luther 55
Piedmont  93,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  91


YTD D3 vs :

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          55      
NCAA-D2                   5          32      
NAIA-D1                    9          14      
NAIA-D2                    36          52      
NCCAA-D1                15          1      
NCCAA-D2                44          4      
USCAA                      58          16      
Other                         28          4      
IND-D3 Provisional     37          7      


D3 vs D3 Non Conference.....  remember, I include the 4 Independent D3 provisionals as non D3 so as not to skew the results here

1   NESCAC      95   34   0.736
2   UAA      59   25   0.702
3   MIAC      35   17   0.673
4   NCAC      40   20   0.667
5   CCIW      55   30   0.647
6   Landmark      43   25   0.632
7   NWC      36   21   0.632
8   SUNY      41   24   0.631
9   USAC      54   35   0.607
10   OAC      38   25   0.603
11   ODAC      59   40   0.596
12   WIAC      46   32   0.590
13   CAC      38   28   0.576
14   Newmac      46   34   0.575
15   SCAC      43   33   0.566
16   LEC      46   36   0.561
17   MACF      43   35   0.551
18   NACC      26   22   0.542
19   MIAA      36   31   0.537
20   MACC      41   36   0.532
21   NJAC      34   30   0.531
22   IIAC      35   32   0.522
23   CC      34   33   0.507
24   E8      37   39   0.487
25   MWC      22   24   0.478
26   SCIAC      22   24   0.478
27   ASC      47   54   0.465
28   CCC      31   37   0.456
29   CUNY      34   41   0.453
30   LL      33   40   0.452
31   Mascac      36   48   0.429
32   GNAC      27   37   0.422
33   Independents      34   55   0.382
34   SAA      30   51   0.370
35   AMCC      19   38   0.333
36   HCAC      18   38   0.321
37   UMAC      18   38   0.321
38   NECC      22   47   0.319
39   NAC      20   43   0.317
40   Sky      14   34   0.292
41   CSAC      17   43   0.283
42   PrAC      16   45   0.262
43   SLIAC      11   36   0.234
44   NEAC      16   57   0.219
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on January 27, 2016, 09:02:56 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 27, 2016, 06:47:12 AM
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          55      
NCAA-D2                   5          32      

Does anyone else find it strange that we've played 56 games against D-I competition and 37 games against D-II competition?

It would seem more likely (to me) that we'd play D-II much more frequently than D-I.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 27, 2016, 10:02:58 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on January 27, 2016, 09:02:56 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 27, 2016, 06:47:12 AM
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          55      
NCAA-D2                   5          32      

Does anyone else find it strange that we've played 56 games against D-I competition and 37 games against D-II competition?

It would seem more likely (to me) that we'd play D-II much more frequently than D-I.
I think that a D-1 match is more likely to be a "money game".
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on January 27, 2016, 10:42:05 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 27, 2016, 10:02:58 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on January 27, 2016, 09:02:56 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 27, 2016, 06:47:12 AM
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          55      
NCAA-D2                   5          32      

Does anyone else find it strange that we've played 56 games against D-I competition and 37 games against D-II competition?

It would seem more likely (to me) that we'd play D-II much more frequently than D-I.
I think that a D-1 match is more likely to be a "money game".

So, that explains why it might be more attractive to a D-III team. But it would also be more attractive to a D-II team as well. And, seemingly, the competition would be "better" (on average, from the D-I perspective) when playing a D-II team rather than a D-III team.

Maybe the D-I's are just looking for W's... but do those W's come at a cost? Perhaps they don't properly prepare for the remainder of a D-I schedule?

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on January 27, 2016, 01:06:14 PM
question for hopefan, D1 related.  Are you counting those 1/2 real game, 1/2 exhibition games against the D1's such as Alma at Central Michigan?



I think something changed in the D1 formula where games out of division don't hurt them as much as they used to.  Consequently they are more willing to play D2 and D3 opponents. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 27, 2016, 01:26:17 PM
The games that are counted against D1 are those that count in the D3 teams record, that are a part of their 25 allowable games.   I check on the D3 teams schedules to see if they are listed as exhibitions.. (Exhibitions are now allowed in season - opening night and beyond - necessitating the check)... Exhibitions are not a part of teams' records, either in my listings, or in D3hoops.com... D3hoops has done a good job in maintaining that identity and proper records....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on January 27, 2016, 01:33:14 PM
NAIA-D2                    36          52   

Historically this has been a really close match-up, but in recent years NAIA II is getting a greater and greater upper hand.  I have to believe the schedule focus on D3 schools is forcing many of the stronger D3's to forego their NAIA games, thus the D3 v NAIA II record is swinging into the NAIA II's favor.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 01:48:34 PM
Quote from: sac on January 27, 2016, 01:06:14 PM
question for hopefan, D1 related.  Are you counting those 1/2 real game, 1/2 exhibition games against the D1's such as Alma at Central Michigan?



I think something changed in the D1 formula where games out of division don't hurt them as much as they used to.  Consequently they are more willing to play D2 and D3 opponents.

What has changed is actually on the Division III side... it used to be that you had to play a non-counting game against a D1 (or any team) prior to the start of the season (Nov. 15 normally; Nov. 13 this year). However, there was confusion in how it was written and some schools were playing games after Nov. 15.

Long story short, they cleared it up and said ANY game against D1 or other division team can count as an exhibition/scrimmage/etc. game any time of the season (pre-season through end of season) as long as you don't go over your allotment of those games allowed. You can also count the game if you want, but that falls inside the 25-game limit.

Several schools this year have taken advantage of that "any time" rule like Roanoke who won against D1 NCA&T earlier this year. It counted as a real game for the D1 team, but it was an exhibition for Roanoke - anther wrinkle in all of this: can count for D1 but can be an exhibition for D3.

Side note for comparison. When you take into account all of the exceptions and such to the schedules, basketball teams can end up playing 40 games total in a year if they take advantage of everything. They are the extreme height in NCAA Division III. The extreme low is field hockey where they could only play a max of four more than their schedule, meaning 24 total. THAT has become a major talking point when it comes to schedules and such - exceptions and allotments outside of the regular season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on January 27, 2016, 01:54:43 PM
I'm aware of the D3 change Dave, but on the D1 side you were massacred in the tournament selections if you played even 1 game out of division. That isn't happening anymore.  Consequently D1's are more willing to step outside their division.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 01:57:43 PM
True.. but I don't think that is a change in terms of rules as much as just a change in mentality. They also allowed more games to be played in the regular season to probably offset some of that (not to mention things like "last ten games" et al).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on January 27, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
semantics ::)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on January 27, 2016, 02:56:06 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 01:48:34 PM
Quote from: sac on January 27, 2016, 01:06:14 PM
question for hopefan, D1 related.  Are you counting those 1/2 real game, 1/2 exhibition games against the D1's such as Alma at Central Michigan?



I think something changed in the D1 formula where games out of division don't hurt them as much as they used to.  Consequently they are more willing to play D2 and D3 opponents.

What has changed is actually on the Division III side... it used to be that you had to play a non-counting game against a D1 (or any team) prior to the start of the season (Nov. 15 normally; Nov. 13 this year). However, there was confusion in how it was written and some schools were playing games after Nov. 15.

Long story short, they cleared it up and said ANY game against D1 or other division team can count as an exhibition/scrimmage/etc. game any time of the season (pre-season through end of season) as long as you don't go over your allotment of those games allowed. You can also count the game if you want, but that falls inside the 25-game limit.

Several schools this year have taken advantage of that "any time" rule like Roanoke who won against D1 NCA&T earlier this year. It counted as a real game for the D1 team, but it was an exhibition for Roanoke - anther wrinkle in all of this: can count for D1 but can be an exhibition for D3.

Side note for comparison. When you take into account all of the exceptions and such to the schedules, basketball teams can end up playing 40 games total in a year if they take advantage of everything. They are the extreme height in NCAA Division III. The extreme low is field hockey where they could only play a max of four more than their schedule, meaning 24 total. THAT has become a major talking point when it comes to schedules and such - exceptions and allotments outside of the regular season.
Why not just go to max 25 games against D3 opponents, 2 games outside of the division, and no exhibitions?   Seems silly to not count Roanoke's win when NC A&T was not treating it as an exhibition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
Because as allotments and exemptions have been added, there hasn't been a rule to tie them all together. That may be coming in Division III, but not sure how it will entail (at the convention there was overwhelming non-support for making exemptions universal across all sports). It gives coaches options and flexibility mainly. Now a coach can decide if he wants a game he is going to get killed in count or not, especially if he is getting paid. It also allows him to decide how he wants his schedule to play out for the NCAA Tournament. But the D3 exhibition against D1 real game has been around for a long time.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 27, 2016, 11:53:48 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on January 27, 2016, 10:42:05 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 27, 2016, 10:02:58 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on January 27, 2016, 09:02:56 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 27, 2016, 06:47:12 AM
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                  1          55      
NCAA-D2                   5          32      

Does anyone else find it strange that we've played 56 games against D-I competition and 37 games against D-II competition?

It would seem more likely (to me) that we'd play D-II much more frequently than D-I.
I think that a D-1 match is more likely to be a "money game".

So, that explains why it might be more attractive to a D-III team. But it would also be more attractive to a D-II team as well. And, seemingly, the competition would be "better" (on average, from the D-I perspective) when playing a D-II team rather than a D-III team.

Maybe the D-I's are just looking for W's... but do those W's come at a cost? Perhaps they don't properly prepare for the remainder of a D-I schedule?

Lot of the lower level D1 teams in the South play the local D3 schools as money games, before they become road warriors themselves for money games.

And for some reason the Ivy likes to play an NCAC school or two every year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 27, 2016, 11:54:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
Because as allotments and exemptions have been added, there hasn't been a rule to tie them all together. That may be coming in Division III, but not sure how it will entail (at the convention there was overwhelming non-support for making exemptions universal across all sports). It gives coaches options and flexibility mainly. Now a coach can decide if he wants a game he is going to get killed in count or not, especially if he is getting paid. It also allows him to decide how he wants his schedule to play out for the NCAA Tournament. But the D3 exhibition against D1 real game has been around for a long time.

It's not just D3 vs. D1. Games against NAIA schools can be exhibitions for them - same with games against Canadian non-NCAA schools.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 28, 2016, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: smedindy on January 27, 2016, 11:54:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
Because as allotments and exemptions have been added, there hasn't been a rule to tie them all together. That may be coming in Division III, but not sure how it will entail (at the convention there was overwhelming non-support for making exemptions universal across all sports). It gives coaches options and flexibility mainly. Now a coach can decide if he wants a game he is going to get killed in count or not, especially if he is getting paid. It also allows him to decide how he wants his schedule to play out for the NCAA Tournament. But the D3 exhibition against D1 real game has been around for a long time.

It's not just D3 vs. D1. Games against NAIA schools can be exhibitions for them - same with games against Canadian non-NCAA schools.

Canadian games in Division III I think are handled completely differently. I believe they are under the international allowance which is only once every three year. That is a different topic altogether.

And yes, there are other example, but I was trying to keep it simple.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 28, 2016, 06:51:03 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 28, 2016, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: smedindy on January 27, 2016, 11:54:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
Because as allotments and exemptions have been added, there hasn't been a rule to tie them all together. That may be coming in Division III, but not sure how it will entail (at the convention there was overwhelming non-support for making exemptions universal across all sports). It gives coaches options and flexibility mainly. Now a coach can decide if he wants a game he is going to get killed in count or not, especially if he is getting paid. It also allows him to decide how he wants his schedule to play out for the NCAA Tournament. But the D3 exhibition against D1 real game has been around for a long time.

It's not just D3 vs. D1. Games against NAIA schools can be exhibitions for them - same with games against Canadian non-NCAA schools.

Canadian games in Division III I think are handled completely differently. I believe they are under the international allowance which is only once every three year. That is a different topic altogether.

And yes, there are other example, but I was trying to keep it simple.

It's not Canadian schools in general, only the pre-season international trips.  Teams go to Canada when they can't afford to go anywhere else.  I'm pretty sure in-season games against Canadian teams are handled like any other non NCAA contest.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 28, 2016, 08:33:26 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 28, 2016, 06:51:03 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 28, 2016, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: smedindy on January 27, 2016, 11:54:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
Because as allotments and exemptions have been added, there hasn't been a rule to tie them all together. That may be coming in Division III, but not sure how it will entail (at the convention there was overwhelming non-support for making exemptions universal across all sports). It gives coaches options and flexibility mainly. Now a coach can decide if he wants a game he is going to get killed in count or not, especially if he is getting paid. It also allows him to decide how he wants his schedule to play out for the NCAA Tournament. But the D3 exhibition against D1 real game has been around for a long time.

It's not just D3 vs. D1. Games against NAIA schools can be exhibitions for them - same with games against Canadian non-NCAA schools.

Canadian games in Division III I think are handled completely differently. I believe they are under the international allowance which is only once every three year. That is a different topic altogether.

And yes, there are other example, but I was trying to keep it simple.

It's not Canadian schools in general, only the pre-season international trips.  Teams go to Canada when they can't afford to go anywhere else.  I'm pretty sure in-season games against Canadian teams are handled like any other non NCAA contest.

This is an off the cuff response without doing research, but I don't think a game against Canadian schools is ever counted as one of 25 allowable, with stats being real, result a part of win-loss etc... if that's correct, games vs Canadian schools would always be exhibitions...  If someone can pull something out of NCAA manuals to prove me right or wrong.. great!!!
It does remind me of an amusing story of 'old-time basketball' ..my Junior year at RPI, 1969-70, we took a 4 game swing to Canada.. we were a fair college division team at the time (D3 did not yet exist) and one of the teams we played was Carlton (of Canada, not Minnesota) who at the time, was the No 1 team in Canada... we beat them, and quickly laid claim to having RPI rated as the number one team in Canada... needless to say, we got a kick out of faux rating!!!!  We agreed to forfeit the claim when we crossed the border back into the US... when another highlight occurred.. the customs guy at the crossing quizzed our driver, who was our SID, "Are you all Americans?".. to which he accurately replied.. "No, we're not quite that good..."  BA DA BOOM...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: John Gleich on January 28, 2016, 09:04:37 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 28, 2016, 08:33:26 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 28, 2016, 06:51:03 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 28, 2016, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: smedindy on January 27, 2016, 11:54:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
Because as allotments and exemptions have been added, there hasn't been a rule to tie them all together. That may be coming in Division III, but not sure how it will entail (at the convention there was overwhelming non-support for making exemptions universal across all sports). It gives coaches options and flexibility mainly. Now a coach can decide if he wants a game he is going to get killed in count or not, especially if he is getting paid. It also allows him to decide how he wants his schedule to play out for the NCAA Tournament. But the D3 exhibition against D1 real game has been around for a long time.

It's not just D3 vs. D1. Games against NAIA schools can be exhibitions for them - same with games against Canadian non-NCAA schools.

Canadian games in Division III I think are handled completely differently. I believe they are under the international allowance which is only once every three year. That is a different topic altogether.

And yes, there are other example, but I was trying to keep it simple.

It's not Canadian schools in general, only the pre-season international trips.  Teams go to Canada when they can't afford to go anywhere else.  I'm pretty sure in-season games against Canadian teams are handled like any other non NCAA contest.

This is an off the cuff response without doing research, but I don't think a game against Canadian schools is ever counted as one of 25 allowable, with stats being real, result a part of win-loss etc... if that's correct, games vs Canadian schools would always be exhibitions...  If someone can pull something out of NCAA manuals to prove me right or wrong.. great!!!
It does remind me of an amusing story of 'old-time basketball' ..my Junior year at RPI, 1969-70, we took a 4 game swing to Canada.. we were a fair college division team at the time (D3 did not yet exist) and one of the teams we played was Carlton (of Canada, not Minnesota) who at the time, was the No 1 team in Canada... we beat them, and quickly laid claim to having RPI rated as the number one team in Canada... needless to say, we got a kick out of faux rating!!!!  We agreed to forfeit the claim when we crossed the border back into the US... when another highlight occurred.. the customs guy at the crossing quizzed our driver, who was our SID, "Are you all Americans?".. to which he accurately replied.. "No, we're not quite that good..."  BA DA BOOM...

The Canadian discussion might be better tackled by the hockey people. I'm sure that it happens much more frequently on the ice than the hardwood.

There may be differences in how they're treated... but not necessarily.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 28, 2016, 01:07:24 PM
Games of 1/27

Alfred State (IND-D3 Provisional) 81, Franciscan (Ohio) 71
Cal Maritime (NAIA-D2) 75, UC Santa Cruz 64
Sarah Lawrence  79,  Cooper Union  (Other)  35
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 28, 2016, 05:23:23 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 28, 2016, 08:33:26 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 28, 2016, 06:51:03 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 28, 2016, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: smedindy on January 27, 2016, 11:54:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
Because as allotments and exemptions have been added, there hasn't been a rule to tie them all together. That may be coming in Division III, but not sure how it will entail (at the convention there was overwhelming non-support for making exemptions universal across all sports). It gives coaches options and flexibility mainly. Now a coach can decide if he wants a game he is going to get killed in count or not, especially if he is getting paid. It also allows him to decide how he wants his schedule to play out for the NCAA Tournament. But the D3 exhibition against D1 real game has been around for a long time.

It's not just D3 vs. D1. Games against NAIA schools can be exhibitions for them - same with games against Canadian non-NCAA schools.

Canadian games in Division III I think are handled completely differently. I believe they are under the international allowance which is only once every three year. That is a different topic altogether.

And yes, there are other example, but I was trying to keep it simple.

It's not Canadian schools in general, only the pre-season international trips.  Teams go to Canada when they can't afford to go anywhere else.  I'm pretty sure in-season games against Canadian teams are handled like any other non NCAA contest.

This is an off the cuff response without doing research, but I don't think a game against Canadian schools is ever counted as one of 25 allowable

The current exchange rate is that one game against an American team counts as 1.4 games against a Canadian team.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 28, 2016, 07:36:11 PM
Well, all I know is that CWU plays Quest (nickname: The Kermodes) every year (and other GNAC (D2 variety) schools do too) and it counts for us - but not for them. We play them in December, which is their off time for the PacWest (Canada version) schedule.


One of Quest's best players is: Noah DeRappard-Yuswack
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 29, 2016, 06:42:12 AM
No games on 1/28
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 30, 2016, 06:42:54 AM
Games of 1/29

Maranatha Baptist  70,  Emmaus  (other)  59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 31, 2016, 06:58:36 AM
Games of 1/30:    Including a disappointing performance by our D3 Concordias in the Concordia Tourney

Concordia (Neb.) (NAIA-D2) 86, Concordia (Wis.) 85
Concordia (Mi.) (NAIA-D2) 81, Concordia-Chicago 66

Valley Forge (Ind-D3 Provisional) 77, Pine Manor 69
SUNY-Canton  94,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  91
Maine-Presque Isle  73,  Central Maine CC  (Other)  57
Moody Bible (NCCAA-D2) 76, Maranatha Baptist 73
Alfred State  65,  SUNY-Delhi  (USCAA)  63


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 02, 2016, 07:29:31 AM
Games of 2/1

Williams  67,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  63
Central Bible (NCCAA-D2) 93, Westminster (Mo.) 92    (read about the ending in the SLIAC room)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 03, 2016, 08:18:20 AM
Games of 2/2

Maine-Presque Isle  77,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  75
Illinois Tech  71,  St. Mary's (Minn.)  (MIAC)  62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 04, 2016, 07:13:21 AM
Games of 2/3:

Penn State-Behrend  81,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  45
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 05, 2016, 05:40:26 AM
Games of 2/4:

Maranatha Baptist  50,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  46
Pine Manor  86,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  84
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 07, 2016, 06:32:12 AM
no games 2/5...... Games of 2/6/16:

Maranatha Baptist  85,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  76
Pine Manor  74,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  52
SUNY-Canton  76,  Alfred State  (IND-D3 Provisional)  56
Monmouth  119,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  59
Piedmont  84,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D1)  77
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 07, 2016, 08:08:46 PM
Games of 2/7

Maine-Presque Isle  91,  Unity  (USCAA)  52
SUNY-Canton  71,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  65

Anybody see a UC Santa Cruz - Life Pacific score on 2/6??... Game is on all sites, no score posted anywhere...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 08, 2016, 02:33:20 PM
LIFE Pacific is an unaffiliated school that established men's basketball and women's volleyball as its two intercollegiate sports this school year. As is typically the case in situations in which intercollegiate sports is clearly an afterthought in relation to the institution as a whole, nobody seems to be in charge of updating results on the team's webpage. Neither of the two games that LIFE Pacific played last weekend have results posted, not just the Saturday game against the Banana Slugs.

If I were you, I'd e-mail UCSC's SID Collin Pregliasco. If he still doesn't have the score, go right to the source and e-mail Banana Slugs head coach Ron DuBois. I doubt you'll get much help from the LIFE Pacific end of things.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 08, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
Straight from the Banana Slugs' mouth...er...site:

http://goslugs.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/boxscores/20160206_afk8.xml
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 08, 2016, 05:15:41 PM
They must've transmitted that box score from San Dimas to Santa Cruz via Pony Express.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 08, 2016, 05:51:23 PM
From 2/6, a couple days late:

UC Santa Cruz   64   Life Pacific  (NCCAA-D1)   56


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on February 08, 2016, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 08, 2016, 05:15:41 PM
They must've transmitted that box score from San Dimas to Santa Cruz via Pony Express.

San Dimas to Santa Cruz is a long way for a banana slug to slug.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 09, 2016, 06:11:55 AM
Game of 2/8

New Jersey City  97,  Valley Forge  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 10, 2016, 06:58:48 AM
Games of 2/9:

Maranatha Baptist  77,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  64
Alfred State  78,  Davis  (Other)  55
Rockford  98,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  73
Berry  96,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  72
Crossroads College (NCCAA-D2) 77, North Central (Minn.) 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 10, 2016, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: sac on February 08, 2016, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 08, 2016, 05:15:41 PM
They must've transmitted that box score from San Dimas to Santa Cruz via Pony Express.

San Dimas to Santa Cruz is a long way for a banana slug to slug.

SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 11, 2016, 08:16:29 AM
Games of 2/10

Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 72, Maine-Presque Isle 61
Penn St.-Schuylkill (USCAA) 107, Valley Forge 104
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 12, 2016, 08:31:46 AM
2/11

Tougaloo (NAIA-D1) 116, Rust 77     Rust having a tough season at 5-17
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 12, 2016, 08:38:19 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 12, 2016, 08:31:46 AM
2/11

Tougaloo (NAIA-D1) 116, Rust 77     Rust having a tough season at 5-17
If Rust has 22 reported results that means they've actually played about 35 games this year right? ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 14, 2016, 01:34:44 PM
Games of 2/13/16..... no games 2/12/16

Fisher (NAIA-D2) 102, Maine-Presque Isle 75
Judson (NAIA-D2) 61, Maranatha Baptist 46
SUNY-Canton  86,  Villa Maria  (other)  76
UC Santa Cruz  74,  Illinois Tech  (Ind-D3 Provisional)  64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 15, 2016, 08:53:21 AM
Games of 2/14

Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 76, Alfred State 66
SUNY-Canton  93,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 17, 2016, 08:10:28 AM
games of 2/16... D3 kicked.... no games 2/15


Trinity Int'l (NAIA-D2) 103, Maranatha Baptist 71
Arlington Baptist (NCCAA-D2) 65, University of Dallas 63
Crossroads College (NCCAA-D2) 80, Crown 68

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 18, 2016, 12:25:09 PM
games of 2/17

Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 89, Valley Forge 78


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 19, 2016, 06:45:42 AM
2/19   Rust Fisk anybody????

Maranatha Baptist  84,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  74
Rust  NA,  Fisk  (NAIA-D1)  NA

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 19, 2016, 07:30:30 PM
If they're playing 2/19 then they're playing today.
They actually played 2/18. I see nothing on the AII site.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 21, 2016, 06:25:43 PM
no games 2/19

games 2/20

UC Santa Cruz  85,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  74
Centenary (La.)  92,  Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  80

Rust/Fisk  2/18   Anybody?   Anybody??
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 23, 2016, 06:47:24 PM
Got nothin'.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 23, 2016, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: smedindy on February 23, 2016, 06:47:24 PM
Got nothin'.

Someone Call Rust!!!!!!

Somebody in this world has to know the outcome of the  Rust-Fisk Game!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: cubs on August 17, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
hopefan-
Do you have the final records for the D3 vs D1/D2/NAIA?etc... handy?

Thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on August 18, 2016, 09:18:55 PM
cubs... just saw your request.... I'll see if I can't get it posted this weekend.....  I must have gotten caught up with Conf tourneys etc and just lost track of final records at end of season...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: cubs on August 19, 2016, 12:38:27 PM
Quote from: hopefan on August 18, 2016, 09:18:55 PM
cubs... just saw your request.... I'll see if I can't get it posted this weekend.....  I must have gotten caught up with Conf tourneys etc and just lost track of final records at end of season...
No worries!!!  Thanks!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 30, 2016, 04:24:43 PM

Two big exhibitions today.  Platteville kept it within 28 points against Wisconsin and WashU is holding their own at Illinois (trailing 30-40 at the half).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 30, 2016, 05:18:50 PM

WashU came back from 28 down to lose 75-82.  They won the rebounding battle.  The Bears should be a pretty formidable team this season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 31, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
Let's keep this in perspective. Illinois apparently only started two of it's projected starters and one of their top players I don't think played at all... not to mention the fact, clearly stepped off the gas in the last quarter. I know we all love seeing a D3 play well against a D1 school (Transy jumping out on Kentucky a few years ago was fun to watch)... but these games rarely translate into anything we can use about the season ahead.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: WUPHF on October 31, 2016, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 31, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
Let's keep this in perspective. Illinois apparently only started two of it's projected starters and one of their top players I don't think played at all... not to mention the fact, clearly stepped off the gas in the last quarter. I know we all love seeing a D3 play well against a D1 school (Transy jumping out on Kentucky a few years ago was fun to watch)... but these games rarely translate into anything we can use about the season ahead.

I know I can only comment on this so many times before people assume that I am unable to keep it in perspective, but a few thoughts.

Illinois only played 10 guys and starters featured throughout...and though the personal issues, including injuries continue, they still played at least four consensus Top 100 guys.  A guy like Jalen Coleman-Lands is a top guy on a lot of Division I teams.

There are two positions on online forums regarding exhibition games in general and inter-Division exhibition games in particular.  Rarely translate on the one hand and evidence of a formidable team on the other.  And rarely does one opinion get posted without the other soon following.  If we were all watching this game in person, we would probably find lots of examples of play that would signal a good season ahead.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 31, 2016, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 31, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
Let's keep this in perspective. Illinois apparently only started two of it's projected starters and one of their top players I don't think played at all... not to mention the fact, clearly stepped off the gas in the last quarter. I know we all love seeing a D3 play well against a D1 school (Transy jumping out on Kentucky a few years ago was fun to watch)... but these games rarely translate into anything we can use about the season ahead.

I agree.  I was watching the live stats, even when they were down 28, WashU was still only two rebounds behind.  When they were actually playing the best Illinois threw out there, they were committing ridiculous turnovers (as expected), but they hit the boards the whole game.  That's what was most impressive to me.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: jaybird44 on November 01, 2016, 01:17:28 AM
This is my two cents worth...well actually 10 cents, having broadcast the game court side:

Illinois' players may have taken their collective feet off the pedal in the 2nd half, but let's look at the 1st half when there was no inclination to coast leisurely to the finish.  Wash-U jumped out to a 7-2 lead, led at its high-water mark by 7 (24-17) and held the lead for most of the half before the Illini surged and took a 10-point lead at halftime.

A 10-point lead.  By a D-1 Big 10 team that had 6 of their top 7 scorers back, of which 4 of them saw extensive playing time last season--between 28 and 34 game appearances and between 16-34 starting assignments.  Including Malcolm Hill, a 2nd-team Big 10 selection, and a Jerry West finalist. Including two players at 6'10" and another at 6'11" (Mike Thorne Jr., a Charlotte transfer that had averaged 10.1 ppg and 7.3 rpg there before his departure).  Jalen Coleman-Lands, who did not start Sunday, was a top-50 HS recruit...and Aaron Jordan, who did start Sunday, was 5th in the balloting for Mr. Illinois Basketball in HS.  Tracy Abrams, who was injured the last two seasons, was a double-digit point producer per game in 2013 and 2014.

This was not an Illini lineup that rolled out 4 walk-ons and the team manager out of the floor to start the game.  This was a legit D-1 lineup--not of the standards of Duke or Kentucky, but a lineup from a 15-19 team that won two Big 10 Tournament games last season.  And yet, Wash-U, minus three of its pivotal starters for much of the 1st half because of early foul trouble (Andrew Sanders, David Schmelter, and Matt Highsmith--played between 5-8 minutes each) outrebounded Illinois 20-16 in the first half and outshot Illinois 42%-33%.  Outscored the Illini in the paint 10-8.  There were many murmurs and outright grumbles expressed by the Illinois fans, expecting the obligatory blowout of a Division III team, as the first half came to an end.

2nd Half:  When the Illini hit its high-water mark of a 29-point lead with 11:39 left, it thought it could glide the rest of the way to a rout.  But, Wash-U realized that and was not too happy about it--so the Bears responded by cutting the deficit to 21, prompting Illinois to put its starters back in the game.  However, the Bears kept slashing away, outworking and outplaying whoever was on the floor for the Illini...all the way to the end of the game when the final deficit was 7...and if there would've been 5 more minutes on the clock, Wash-U very well could've won the game. 

Final stats:  Wash-U outscored Illinois 45-42 in the 2nd half.  38-38 in points in the paint.  Illinois, despite having an advantage of 20 turnovers to Wash-U's 27, only outscored the Bears 29-26 in points off of turnovers (Wash-U outscored Illinois 22-16 in this POT category in the 2nd half).  Illinois won the game on fast-break situations (14-2 edge in points) and at the free throw line (25-37, compared to Wash-U's 13-19).  D-1 athleticism won the day, but barely.

Malcolm Hill was held to 4-13 shooting and 11 points in 27 minutes. 6'10" Maverick Morgan had 20 points, 6'10" Michael Finke had 13 points, and Coleman-Lands had 11 points on 3-9 shooting.  Only 10 players of the 16-man roster played (Kipper Nichols is not eligible until Dec. 17)...so the key players for Illinois this season all logged significant minutes in the game.  Wash-U outshot Illinois 47%-43% overall and 29%-18% from beyond the arc.

Post-game quotes:  "Wash-U was tougher for a majority of the game."--Illini head coach John Groce.  And, the quote that was the most telling of how the game unfolded from start to finish was made by Wash-U's Kevin Kucera:  "We didn't come here to get blown out.  We came here to win."

While the outcome from this game certainly doesn't guarantee anything to anybody, it does indicate that Wash-U has the potential to be a very good team...one that could win the UAA and get into the NCAA Tournament.  Will that potential become reality?  We'll see.  But, I believe the perspectives of those who were there to see the game in person should be assessed, before an assumption is made that the outcome is largely irrelevant and brushed off like so much dandruff.  Context matters, even in an exhibition game.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 02, 2016, 07:33:53 AM

Whitworth is playing at Montana tonight.  With all this talk of d3 teams hanging with d1, this might be one to watch.  Certainly their talent levels are a lot closer than the games we had this weekend.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 03, 2016, 01:24:58 AM
Montana 90  Whitworth 80
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: (509)Rat on November 07, 2016, 04:08:11 PM
Montana's guards were athletic enough to get fouled and get to the FT line. As a team the Grizzly shot well from the 3pt line too (again, primarily the guards). Offensively Whitworth didn't have problems scoring, and actually had a very slight advantage in FG%. Montana getting to the line and hitting a couple more 3s was the difference, with a couple of those opportunities being a result of out rebounding the Pirates. From a box score standpoint, this one looked like a 10pt game, stats seemed pretty darn representative of how this one played out. It was tied 38-38 at the half and Montana didn't go any deeper into their bench than Whitworth did. It was a good result for Whitworth against a d1 team that has made recent NCAA tourneys but will likely just miss this year if they finish second in the Big Sky as predicted.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2016, 08:24:24 AM
Scores of 11/15/16:

EXHIBITION GAMES ARE NOT INCLUDED

VMI (NCAA-D1)  78 , Southern Virginia  47
Bryant (NCAA-D1)  88 , Salve Regina  61
Hanover   97 ,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)   42
Berea  99,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  68
Emmaus (other)  74 , Maranatha Baptist  66
UC Santa Cruz  68,  UC-Merced  (NAIA-D2)  56
George Mason (NCAA-D1)  90 , Lebanon Valley  65
Fairleigh Dickinson (NCAA-D1)  96 , FDU-Florham  48
King's   77 ,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)   66
Wilkes   85 ,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)   54
Green Mountain   87 ,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)   71
Wheaton (Mass.)  70,  Dean College  (uscaa)  59
Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2)  94 , Lewis and Clark  93
Puget Sound  117,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  41
Chapman   88 ,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)   63
Mount St. Vincent   66 ,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)   54
Vaughn (USCAA)  77 , SUNY-Purchase  112
Missouri S&T (NCAA-D2) 104, Principia 65
LaGrange   73 ,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)   59
UW-Stout  81,  Minnesota Crookston  (NCAA-D2)  73


D3 versus      
   W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   1
NAIA-D1   0   0
NAIA-D2   3   1
NCCAA-D1   0   0
NCCAA-D2   3   0
USCAA   4   1
Other   1   1




Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 16, 2016, 08:35:26 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 16, 2016, 08:24:24 AM
Scores of 11/15/16:

EXHIBITION GAMES ARE NOT INCLUDED

VMI (NCAA-D1)  78 , Southern Virginia  47
Bryant (NCAA-D1)  88 , Salve Regina  61
Hanover   97 ,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)   42
Berea  99,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  68
Emmaus (other)  74 , Maranatha Baptist  66
UC Santa Cruz  68,  UC-Merced  (NAIA-D2)  56
George Mason (NCAA-D1)  90 , Lebanon Valley  65
Fairleigh Dickinson (NCAA-D1)  96 , FDU-Florham  48
King's   77 ,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)   66
Wilkes   85 ,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)   54
Green Mountain   87 ,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)   71
Wheaton (Mass.)  70,  Dean College  (uscaa)  59
Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2)  94 , Lewis and Clark  93
Puget Sound  117,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  41
Chapman   88 ,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)   63
Mount St. Vincent   66 ,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)   54
Vaughn (USCAA)  77 , SUNY-Purchase  112
Missouri S&T (NCAA-D2) 104, Principia 65
LaGrange   73 ,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)   59
UW-Stout  81,  Minnesota Crookston  (NCAA-D2)  73


D3 versus      
   W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   1
NAIA-D1   0   0
NAIA-D2   3   1
NCCAA-D1   0   0
NCCAA-D2   3   0
USCAA   4   1
Other   1   1

Is the distinction from exhibition games solely that exhibitions take place before Nov 15?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2016, 08:45:23 AM
No.. exhibition games are scheduled as such and may take place on 11/15 and beyond... several games were played last night that were exhibition games, but were listed on D3hoops scoreboard, making things all the more confusing... D3hoops dos not include them in the individual team scores, unless in error... for instance, Westminster Mo beat Maryville Mo (D2) last night... the score is listed on the scoreboard, but not on Westminster's Schedule page...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 16, 2016, 01:51:44 PM
We try not to include exhibition games on the schedule pages or elsewhere, but sometimes they slip past or another location may have a different setting (allowing you to see who is at least in action, even if the game does not count).

Per exhibition: currently, D3s can play higher division teams Nov. 15 onward and have it count as an exhibition, if they want. The twist is that the higher division teams can count them as "real" games as long as it is after their respective start date(s). It can be confusing sometimes. Not sure if that rule will stick (it has only been around for a couple of seasons after the previous rule was even more confusing) with conversations taking place about how many games, real or not real, being played by programs in all sports. Very inside-baseball conversation there.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2016, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 16, 2016, 01:51:44 PM
We try not to include exhibition games on the schedule pages or elsewhere, but sometimes they slip past or another location may have a different setting (allowing you to see who is at least in action, even if the game does not count).


We do list exhibitions on the daily schedule pages. That's intentional and dating from when they were confined to the pre-Nov. 15 dates, made for people being able to use our daily schedule pages in the preseason for something useful.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 16, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2016, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 16, 2016, 01:51:44 PM
We try not to include exhibition games on the schedule pages or elsewhere, but sometimes they slip past or another location may have a different setting (allowing you to see who is at least in action, even if the game does not count).


We do list exhibitions on the daily schedule pages. That's intentional and dating from when they were confined to the pre-Nov. 15 dates, made for people being able to use our daily schedule pages in the preseason for something useful.

Oh, that's right. I am thinking of something else. Duh. Brain is mush this week.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 16, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 16, 2016, 01:51:44 PM
We try not to include exhibition games on the schedule pages or elsewhere, but sometimes they slip past or another location may have a different setting (allowing you to see who is at least in action, even if the game does not count).

Per exhibition: currently, D3s can play higher division teams Nov. 15 onward and have it count as an exhibition, if they want. The twist is that the higher division teams can count them as "real" games as long as it is after their respective start date(s). It can be confusing sometimes. Not sure if that rule will stick (it has only been around for a couple of seasons after the previous rule was even more confusing) with conversations taking place about how many games, real or not real, being played by programs in all sports. Very inside-baseball conversation there.

See if I got the Exhibition right from the D3 school standpoint:

pre-Nov 15: it's an exhibition game, counts towards the max combo of 2 exhibitions or scrimmages but not towards the 25 max game schedule or record

after Nov 14: it may be an exhibition with the same ramifications as above OR it's a real game and counts towards the 25 max limit but doesn't count in the D3's record
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 16, 2016, 10:27:28 PM
The school I work for (Central Washington) is a D2 squad and played Washington State last night. Counted for them. Exhibition for CWU.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2016, 10:29:29 PM
Quote from: ronk on November 16, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 16, 2016, 01:51:44 PM
We try not to include exhibition games on the schedule pages or elsewhere, but sometimes they slip past or another location may have a different setting (allowing you to see who is at least in action, even if the game does not count).

Per exhibition: currently, D3s can play higher division teams Nov. 15 onward and have it count as an exhibition, if they want. The twist is that the higher division teams can count them as "real" games as long as it is after their respective start date(s). It can be confusing sometimes. Not sure if that rule will stick (it has only been around for a couple of seasons after the previous rule was even more confusing) with conversations taking place about how many games, real or not real, being played by programs in all sports. Very inside-baseball conversation there.



See if I got the Exhibition right from the D3 school standpoint:

pre-Nov 15: it's an exhibition game, counts towards the max combo of 2 exhibitions or scrimmages but not towards the 25 max game schedule or record

after Nov 14: it may be an exhibition with the same ramifications as above OR it's a real game and counts towards the 25 max limit but doesn't count in the D3's record

Nope, wrong
If it's Nov 14 or earlier,  it's definitely an exhibition game for D3 (this year's calendar) and does not count in the D3 team's record- it's not in the 25 game count, it is one of 2 allowable scrimmages/exhibitions

If it is Nov. 15 or later, AND is designated as an exhibition game for the D3 team, the same holds... it's an exhibition game for D3 and does not count in the D3 team's record- it's not in the 25 game count, it is one of 2 allowable scrimmages/exhibitions.  The confusion lies in that some of these Nov. 15 or later exhibition games games show in the D3scoreboard and create the misconception that they are countable games.  D3hoops gives the score in the scoreboard for the reader's information without showing it is an exhibition, but that score does not transfer over to the D3team's schedule and record as shown on D3hoops. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 16, 2016, 11:31:00 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 16, 2016, 10:29:29 PM
Quote from: ronk on November 16, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 16, 2016, 01:51:44 PM
We try not to include exhibition games on the schedule pages or elsewhere, but sometimes they slip past or another location may have a different setting (allowing you to see who is at least in action, even if the game does not count).

Per exhibition: currently, D3s can play higher division teams Nov. 15 onward and have it count as an exhibition, if they want. The twist is that the higher division teams can count them as "real" games as long as it is after their respective start date(s). It can be confusing sometimes. Not sure if that rule will stick (it has only been around for a couple of seasons after the previous rule was even more confusing) with conversations taking place about how many games, real or not real, being played by programs in all sports. Very inside-baseball conversation there.



See if I got the Exhibition right from the D3 school standpoint:

pre-Nov 15: it's an exhibition game, counts towards the max combo of 2 exhibitions or scrimmages but not towards the 25 max game schedule or record

after Nov 14: it may be an exhibition with the same ramifications as above OR it's a real game and counts towards the 25 max limit but doesn't count in the D3's record

Nope, wrong
If it's Nov 14 or earlier,  it's definitely an exhibition game for D3 (this year's calendar) and does not count in the D3 team's record- it's not in the 25 game count, it is one of 2 allowable scrimmages/exhibitions

If it is Nov. 15 or later, AND is designated as an exhibition game for the D3 team, the same holds... it's an exhibition game for D3 and does not count in the D3 team's record- it's not in the 25 game count, it is one of 2 allowable scrimmages/exhibitions.  The confusion lies in that some of these Nov. 15 or later exhibition games games show in the D3scoreboard and create the misconception that they are countable games.  D3hoops gives the score in the scoreboard for the reader's information without showing it is an exhibition, but that score does not transfer over to the D3team's schedule and record as shown on D3hoops.

Sorry, but I don't see your difference from my depiction.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2016, 05:12:39 AM
your part that says "OR it's a real game and counts towards the 25 max limit but doesn't count in the D3's record"... it DOES count in D3's record if it's a real game....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2016, 05:38:53 AM
Games of Nov. 16:

Viterbo (NAIA-D2)  78 , Edgewood  66 
Penn St.-Dubois (USCAA)  99 , Penn College  113 
Pacific Lutheran  93,  Multnomah  (NAIA-D2)  91
Randolph   72 ,  Christendom  (USCAA)   40 
Penn St. Beaver (USCAA)  78 , Grove City  57 
Biola (NAIA-D1)  74 , Pomona-Pitzer  50 



D3 versus      
         W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   1
NAIA-D1   0   1
NAIA-D2   4   2
NCCAA-D1   0   0
NCCAA-D2   3   0
USCAA   5   3
Other   1   1

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 07:15:09 AM

It's even easier - d3 teams are allowed two exhibition games during their season (from the start of practice to the end of the championship game) - they can schedule them whenever they like.  The 25 allowable regular season games can only happen after Nov 14th (unless the 15th falls on a Saturday or a Sunday, then they can play the previous Friday night).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 17, 2016, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 17, 2016, 05:12:39 AM
your part that says "OR it's a real game and counts towards the 25 max limit but doesn't count in the D3's record"... it DOES count in D3's record if it's a real game....

But not in regional rankings and/or Pool C deliberations; isn't it as if it didn't take place for those considerations?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2016, 10:18:05 AM
Quote from: ronk on November 17, 2016, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 17, 2016, 05:12:39 AM
your part that says "OR it's a real game and counts towards the 25 max limit but doesn't count in the D3's record"... it DOES count in D3's record if it's a real game....

But not in regional rankings and/or Pool C deliberations; isn't it as if it didn't take place for those considerations?

If it's a real game against anyone but a D3 team, you are correct!!! ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 17, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 07:15:09 AM

It's even easier - d3 teams are allowed two exhibition games during their season (from the start of practice to the end of the championship game) - they can schedule them whenever they like.  The 25 allowable regular season games can only happen after Nov 14th (unless the 15th falls on a Saturday or a Sunday, then they can play the previous Friday night).

Ryan is correct - it had to be adjusted for last season after some confusion in the rule book. You have 2 exhibition/scrimmage games you can use anytime between Oct. 15 and the NCAA championship game (yep, that far) - alumni games do NOT count. If you play them prior to either team's first permissible game date, it is obviously an exhibition/scrimmage for both. If the D3 plays an opponent in D2 or D1 who has already started their season, that's when it gets confusing for people. The D2 and D1 can count it as a real game while the D3 can count it as an exhibition (BTW D2 can do that with D1s as well, I believe). It used to be understood that could only happen in the time between D1's start and Nov. 15, but the rule book actually wasn't that clear and I know of at least one case where a D3 team scheduled a December game against a D1, thought they could count it as exhibition, they were not allowed and suddenly had too many games - they scrambled and canceled their only remaining non-conference D3 game just days prior to playing it (both sides were fine with the decision). The rule was then better explained and formally expanded starting last season. Though, it is up for debate whether it will be changed again.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 17, 2016, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 17, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 07:15:09 AM

It's even easier - d3 teams are allowed two exhibition games during their season (from the start of practice to the end of the championship game) - they can schedule them whenever they like.  The 25 allowable regular season games can only happen after Nov 14th (unless the 15th falls on a Saturday or a Sunday, then they can play the previous Friday night).

Ryan is correct - it had to be adjusted for last season after some confusion in the rule book. You have 2 exhibition/scrimmage games you can use anytime between Oct. 15 and the NCAA championship game (yep, that far) - alumni games do NOT count. If you play them prior to either team's first permissible game date, it is obviously an exhibition/scrimmage for both. If the D3 plays an opponent in D2 or D1 who has already started their season, that's when it gets confusing for people. The D2 and D1 can count it as a real game while the D3 can count it as an exhibition (BTW D2 can do that with D1s as well, I believe). It used to be understood that could only happen in the time between D1's start and Nov. 15, but the rule book actually wasn't that clear and I know of at least one case where a D3 team scheduled a December game against a D1, thought they could count it as exhibition, they were not allowed and suddenly had too many games - they scrambled and canceled their only remaining non-conference D3 game just days prior to playing it (both sides were fine with the decision). The rule was then better explained and formally expanded starting last season. Though, it is up for debate whether it will be changed again.

Who wouldn't allow it? One would think it would be up to each participating institution to deem it as a exhibition or a real game after the D3 season starts.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: ronk on November 17, 2016, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 17, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 07:15:09 AM

It's even easier - d3 teams are allowed two exhibition games during their season (from the start of practice to the end of the championship game) - they can schedule them whenever they like.  The 25 allowable regular season games can only happen after Nov 14th (unless the 15th falls on a Saturday or a Sunday, then they can play the previous Friday night).

Ryan is correct - it had to be adjusted for last season after some confusion in the rule book. You have 2 exhibition/scrimmage games you can use anytime between Oct. 15 and the NCAA championship game (yep, that far) - alumni games do NOT count. If you play them prior to either team's first permissible game date, it is obviously an exhibition/scrimmage for both. If the D3 plays an opponent in D2 or D1 who has already started their season, that's when it gets confusing for people. The D2 and D1 can count it as a real game while the D3 can count it as an exhibition (BTW D2 can do that with D1s as well, I believe). It used to be understood that could only happen in the time between D1's start and Nov. 15, but the rule book actually wasn't that clear and I know of at least one case where a D3 team scheduled a December game against a D1, thought they could count it as exhibition, they were not allowed and suddenly had too many games - they scrambled and canceled their only remaining non-conference D3 game just days prior to playing it (both sides were fine with the decision). The rule was then better explained and formally expanded starting last season. Though, it is up for debate whether it will be changed again.

Who wouldn't allow it? One would think it would be up to each participating institution to deem it as a exhibition or a real game after the D3 season starts.

It wasn't allowed because the rule wasn't clear.  They cleaned up the language to side with how the school understood it in the first place, but, of course, too late for that particular game.  There is at least one December d3-d1 exhibition game on the schedule for this year - I forget who, but I remember seeing it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2016, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: ronk on November 17, 2016, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 17, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 07:15:09 AM

It's even easier - d3 teams are allowed two exhibition games during their season (from the start of practice to the end of the championship game) - they can schedule them whenever they like.  The 25 allowable regular season games can only happen after Nov 14th (unless the 15th falls on a Saturday or a Sunday, then they can play the previous Friday night).

Ryan is correct - it had to be adjusted for last season after some confusion in the rule book. You have 2 exhibition/scrimmage games you can use anytime between Oct. 15 and the NCAA championship game (yep, that far) - alumni games do NOT count. If you play them prior to either team's first permissible game date, it is obviously an exhibition/scrimmage for both. If the D3 plays an opponent in D2 or D1 who has already started their season, that's when it gets confusing for people. The D2 and D1 can count it as a real game while the D3 can count it as an exhibition (BTW D2 can do that with D1s as well, I believe). It used to be understood that could only happen in the time between D1's start and Nov. 15, but the rule book actually wasn't that clear and I know of at least one case where a D3 team scheduled a December game against a D1, thought they could count it as exhibition, they were not allowed and suddenly had too many games - they scrambled and canceled their only remaining non-conference D3 game just days prior to playing it (both sides were fine with the decision). The rule was then better explained and formally expanded starting last season. Though, it is up for debate whether it will be changed again.

Who wouldn't allow it? One would think it would be up to each participating institution to deem it as a exhibition or a real game after the D3 season starts.

It wasn't allowed because the rule wasn't clear.  They cleaned up the language to side with how the school understood it in the first place, but, of course, too late for that particular game.  There is at least one December d3-d1 exhibition game on the schedule for this year - I forget who, but I remember seeing it.

Fontbonne at Missouri State is listed today... and is an exhibition...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 17, 2016, 03:05:15 PM
Olivet plays an exhibition at D1 IPFW on Jan 9, real game for the Mastadons

Olivet also plays an exhibition with D2 Saginaw Valley State on Nov. 28

Olivet declared both games as exhibition basically because two different coaches couldn't count when they set up the schedule for this year. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 17, 2016, 04:24:31 PM
ST. Mary's(MD) @ Maryland tonight
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on November 17, 2016, 06:01:29 PM
Ow
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: mailsy on November 17, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: ronk on November 17, 2016, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 17, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 07:15:09 AM

It's even easier - d3 teams are allowed two exhibition games during their season (from the start of practice to the end of the championship game) - they can schedule them whenever they like.  The 25 allowable regular season games can only happen after Nov 14th (unless the 15th falls on a Saturday or a Sunday, then they can play the previous Friday night).

Ryan is correct - it had to be adjusted for last season after some confusion in the rule book. You have 2 exhibition/scrimmage games you can use anytime between Oct. 15 and the NCAA championship game (yep, that far) - alumni games do NOT count. If you play them prior to either team's first permissible game date, it is obviously an exhibition/scrimmage for both. If the D3 plays an opponent in D2 or D1 who has already started their season, that's when it gets confusing for people. The D2 and D1 can count it as a real game while the D3 can count it as an exhibition (BTW D2 can do that with D1s as well, I believe). It used to be understood that could only happen in the time between D1's start and Nov. 15, but the rule book actually wasn't that clear and I know of at least one case where a D3 team scheduled a December game against a D1, thought they could count it as exhibition, they were not allowed and suddenly had too many games - they scrambled and canceled their only remaining non-conference D3 game just days prior to playing it (both sides were fine with the decision). The rule was then better explained and formally expanded starting last season. Though, it is up for debate whether it will be changed again.

Who wouldn't allow it? One would think it would be up to each participating institution to deem it as a exhibition or a real game after the D3 season starts.

It wasn't allowed because the rule wasn't clear.  They cleaned up the language to side with how the school understood it in the first place, but, of course, too late for that particular game.  There is at least one December d3-d1 exhibition game on the schedule for this year - I forget who, but I remember seeing it.

Cabrini University (D3) at Lehigh University  (D1) December 22.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 18, 2016, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: ronk on November 17, 2016, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 17, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2016, 07:15:09 AM

It's even easier - d3 teams are allowed two exhibition games during their season (from the start of practice to the end of the championship game) - they can schedule them whenever they like.  The 25 allowable regular season games can only happen after Nov 14th (unless the 15th falls on a Saturday or a Sunday, then they can play the previous Friday night).

Ryan is correct - it had to be adjusted for last season after some confusion in the rule book. You have 2 exhibition/scrimmage games you can use anytime between Oct. 15 and the NCAA championship game (yep, that far) - alumni games do NOT count. If you play them prior to either team's first permissible game date, it is obviously an exhibition/scrimmage for both. If the D3 plays an opponent in D2 or D1 who has already started their season, that's when it gets confusing for people. The D2 and D1 can count it as a real game while the D3 can count it as an exhibition (BTW D2 can do that with D1s as well, I believe). It used to be understood that could only happen in the time between D1's start and Nov. 15, but the rule book actually wasn't that clear and I know of at least one case where a D3 team scheduled a December game against a D1, thought they could count it as exhibition, they were not allowed and suddenly had too many games - they scrambled and canceled their only remaining non-conference D3 game just days prior to playing it (both sides were fine with the decision). The rule was then better explained and formally expanded starting last season. Though, it is up for debate whether it will be changed again.

Who wouldn't allow it? One would think it would be up to each participating institution to deem it as a exhibition or a real game after the D3 season starts.

It wasn't allowed because the rule wasn't clear.  They cleaned up the language to side with how the school understood it in the first place, but, of course, too late for that particular game.  There is at least one December d3-d1 exhibition game on the schedule for this year - I forget who, but I remember seeing it.

The intent of the rule was for no exhibition games after Nov. 14. However, if you read the old language, they weren't as specific as they intended and it could be misread or misconstrued that the exhibition could be played at any time. The intent of the rule that had been in place for many years was no games after Nov. 14. Some programs had read through the rule without that understanding and read it differently. They weren't allowed to play the game because of the intent of the rule along with how it had been enforced to that point. As Ryan points out, the rule was adjusted to what we have today - what the team had read in the first place - but nothing they could do about it that particular season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2016, 06:49:39 AM
Games listed on Dec 17 scoreboard that were Exhibitions:

Fontbonne - Missouri St
St. Mary's-Maryland
Southwestern-St. Edward's
George Fox-Portland State
Nazareth-Buffalo
Occidental-Westmont

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2016, 07:22:33 AM
Games of Nov. 17

University of the Ozarks  107,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  97
Cairn  98,  Penn State Lehigh Valley  (USCAA)  92
Penn State Brandywine (USCAA)  99 , Centenary (N.J.)  87 
Bluffton  79,  OSU Lima  (Other)  53
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 92, Minnesota-Morris 85


D3 versus      
   W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   1
NAIA-D1   0   1
NAIA-D2   4   3
NCCAA-D1   0   0
NCCAA-D2   4   0
USCAA   6   4
Other   2   1
IND-D3 Provisional   0   0
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
Games of November 18

Howard Payne  66,  Eastern New Mexico  (NCAA-D2)  65
Springfield  83,  Dean College  (uscaa)  73
Villa Maria (uscaa) 101, York (N.Y.) 76
Buffalo State  84,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  67
Lycoming  111,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  81
William Paterson   75 ,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)   63 
Puget Sound   65 ,  Evergreen St.  (NAIA-D2)   54 
Fisher (NAIA-D2)  88 , Lesley  82 
Rivier  107,  Unity  (USCAA)  63
Ferrum  76,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  67
Johnson (Tn.) (NCCAA-D2) 113, Oglethorpe 85
Sewanee   76 ,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)   47 
Susquehanna   91 ,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)   58 
Thomas More   88 ,  Midway  (NAIA-D2)   70 
UW-River Falls  103,  Robert Morris (Chicago)  (NAIA-D2)  98
Penn St. Beaver (USCAA)  91 , Thiel  78 
Portland (NCAA-D1)  98 , Lewis and Clark  52 
Coe  79,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  71
UW-Platteville  78,  Lindsey Wilson  (NAIA-D1)  62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2016, 11:56:07 PM
Games of 11/19

Anybody notice Grinnell went for 167 against Silver Lake???!!!

Angelo State (NCAA-D2) 75, Howard Payne 48
Becker  83,  Dean College  (uscaa)  81
Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 97, York (N.Y.) 64
Buffalo State   94 ,  Villa Maria  (uscaa)   83 
Olivet   99 ,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)   89 
Lebanon Valley   85 ,  Penn St. Mont Alto  (USCAA)   70 
Haverford   73 ,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)   66 
Clarks Summit   70 ,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)   69 
Pacific Lutheran   71 ,  Evergreen St.  (NAIA-D2)   63 
Lesley   92 ,  Unity  (USCAA)   73 
Fisher (NAIA-D2)  70 , Rivier  53 
The Apprentice School (USCAA) 58, Worcester State 54
UC Santa Cruz   72 ,  Life Pacific  (NCCAA-D1)   60 
Boyce (NCCAA-D2)  53 , Oglethorpe  106 
Sewanee  102,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  86
Penn St.-Wilkes Barre (USCAA)  84 , Franciscan (Ohio)  69 
Berry   83 ,  Midway  (NAIA-D2)   66 
UW-Stout  88,  Robert Morris (Chicago)  (NAIA-D2)  85
Westminster (Pa.)   90 ,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)   61 
Texas College (NAIA-D1)  76 , LeTourneau  67 
Lubbock Christian (NCAA-D2) 90, Sul Ross State 74
University of the Ozarks   94 ,  Baptist Bible (Mo.)  (NCCAA-D2)   72 
McDaniel   95 ,  Penn State York  (USCAA)   73 
Grinnell  167,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  115
Vermont (NCAA-D1)  79 , Lyndon State  20 
Sioux Falls (NCAA-D2) 100, Concordia (Wis.) 65
St. Elizabeth  80,  King's College NY  (USCAA)  65
Northwest Christian (NAIA-D2) 68, Willamette 64
St. Francis (Pa.) (NCAA-D1) 119, Chatham 59
San Diego Christian (NAIA-D1)  73 , Chapman  62 
Occidental   65 ,  Future College  (other)   50 
Whittier   96 ,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)   75 
Maryville (Mo.) (NCAA-D2)  86 , Fontbonne  56 
North Central (Minn.)   96 ,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)   84 
UW-Whitewater  85,  Lindsey Wilson  (NAIA-D1)  78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2016, 06:55:18 AM
Games of 11/20/16

Carthage   80 ,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)   66 
Penn St. Mont Alto (USCAA)  76 , Elizabethtown  70 

D3 versus      
         W   L
NCAA-D1   0   7
NCAA-D2   2   5
NAIA-D1   2   3
NAIA-D2   10   6
NCCAA-D1   1   0
NCCAA-D2   9   2
USCAA   28   8
Other   3   1

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 09:23:17 AM

Louisiana College has four games listed as "exhibition" on their schedule, two of them on or after Nov 15th.  They also have only 23 regular season games listed.  I'm guessing those two d1 exhibitions are real games, which would be interesting since they beat d1 McNeese State on the 15th.

I've got an email into the SID for confirmation, but we might have a D1 victor on the first day of the season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2016, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 09:23:17 AM

Louisiana College has four games listed as "exhibition" on their schedule, two of them on or after Nov 15th.  They also have only 23 regular season games listed.  I'm guessing those two d1 exhibitions are real games, which would be interesting since they beat d1 McNeese State on the 15th.

I've got an email into the SID for confirmation, but we might have a D1 victor on the first day of the season.

great catch Hoops.. it virtually has to be, given their are scores for the 2 pre-11/15 games, they had to be exhibitions, the other two have to be real... I'll change my spreadsheet for tomorrow
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 21, 2016, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 09:23:17 AM

Louisiana College has four games listed as "exhibition" on their schedule, two of them on or after Nov 15th.  They also have only 23 regular season games listed.  I'm guessing those two d1 exhibitions are real games, which would be interesting since they beat d1 McNeese State on the 15th.

I've got an email into the SID for confirmation, but we might have a D1 victor on the first day of the season.

great catch Hoops.. it virtually has to be, given their are scores for the 2 pre-11/15 games, they had to be exhibitions, the other two have to be real... I'll change my spreadsheet for tomorrow

It's been pointed out to me that there is a reading of the rule that would allow a team to have extra exhibition games if they gave up an equal number of regular season games.  Dave McHugh reached out to the NCAA to clarify and I'm hoping the LC SID will get back to me promptly.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2016, 07:25:56 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 21, 2016, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 09:23:17 AM

Louisiana College has four games listed as "exhibition" on their schedule, two of them on or after Nov 15th.  They also have only 23 regular season games listed.  I'm guessing those two d1 exhibitions are real games, which would be interesting since they beat d1 McNeese State on the 15th.

I've got an email into the SID for confirmation, but we might have a D1 victor on the first day of the season.




great catch Hoops.. it virtually has to be, given their are scores for the 2 pre-11/15 games, they had to be exhibitions, the other two have to be real... I'll change my spreadsheet for tomorrow

It's been pointed out to me that there is a reading of the rule that would allow a team to have extra exhibition games if they gave up an equal number of regular season games.  Dave McHugh reached out to the NCAA to clarify and I'm hoping the LC SID will get back to me promptly.

Interesting... I'll hold off on the change... let me know
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2016, 07:28:54 AM
Scores of 11/21/16

Southwest (N.M.) (NAIA-D1) 89, McMurry 86
Franklin  NA,  Florida College  (USCAA)  NA   score not posted yet
Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 67, Simpson 59
St. Vincent  101,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  80
Regis (Col.) (NCAA-D2) 88, Colorado College 79
Minnesota-Morris  105,  Presentation  (NAIA-D2)  100
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 22, 2016, 07:42:26 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2016, 07:28:54 AM
Scores of 11/21/16

Southwest (N.M.) (NAIA-D1) 89, McMurry 86
Franklin  NA,  Florida College  (USCAA)  NA   score not posted yet
Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 67, Simpson 59
St. Vincent  101,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  80
Regis (Col.) (NCAA-D2) 88, Colorado College 79
Minnesota-Morris  105,  Presentation  (NAIA-D2)  100

Franklin beat Florida College 88-84. Go Grizzlies :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 22, 2016, 08:10:40 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2016, 07:25:56 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 21, 2016, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 09:23:17 AM

Louisiana College has four games listed as "exhibition" on their schedule, two of them on or after Nov 15th.  They also have only 23 regular season games listed.  I'm guessing those two d1 exhibitions are real games, which would be interesting since they beat d1 McNeese State on the 15th.

I've got an email into the SID for confirmation, but we might have a D1 victor on the first day of the season.




great catch Hoops.. it virtually has to be, given their are scores for the 2 pre-11/15 games, they had to be exhibitions, the other two have to be real... I'll change my spreadsheet for tomorrow

It's been pointed out to me that there is a reading of the rule that would allow a team to have extra exhibition games if they gave up an equal number of regular season games.  Dave McHugh reached out to the NCAA to clarify and I'm hoping the LC SID will get back to me promptly.

Interesting... I'll hold off on the change... let me know

LC says they're sacrificing regular season games for those extra two to be exhibitions.  I'm not sure why - the only thing that changes is whether the stats count or not.  No selection committee will care either way.  We're waiting to hear from the NCAA, but I doubt the college would do it without knowing for sure.  Strange.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on November 22, 2016, 09:36:57 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 22, 2016, 08:10:40 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2016, 07:25:56 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 21, 2016, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 09:23:17 AM

Louisiana College has four games listed as "exhibition" on their schedule, two of them on or after Nov 15th.  They also have only 23 regular season games listed.  I'm guessing those two d1 exhibitions are real games, which would be interesting since they beat d1 McNeese State on the 15th.

I've got an email into the SID for confirmation, but we might have a D1 victor on the first day of the season.




great catch Hoops.. it virtually has to be, given their are scores for the 2 pre-11/15 games, they had to be exhibitions, the other two have to be real... I'll change my spreadsheet for tomorrow

It's been pointed out to me that there is a reading of the rule that would allow a team to have extra exhibition games if they gave up an equal number of regular season games.  Dave McHugh reached out to the NCAA to clarify and I'm hoping the LC SID will get back to me promptly.

Interesting... I'll hold off on the change... let me know

LC says they're sacrificing regular season games for those extra two to be exhibitions.  I'm not sure why - the only thing that changes is whether the stats count or not.  No selection committee will care either way.  We're waiting to hear from the NCAA, but I doubt the college would do it without knowing for sure.  Strange.
So every tough non-conference game on your schedule, just call it an exhibition and it stays off your record and helps you get an at-large bid?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2016, 09:42:01 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 22, 2016, 07:42:26 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2016, 07:28:54 AM
Scores of 11/21/16

Southwest (N.M.) (NAIA-D1) 89, McMurry 86
Franklin  NA,  Florida College  (USCAA)  NA   score not posted yet
Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 67, Simpson 59
St. Vincent  101,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  80
Regis (Col.) (NCAA-D2) 88, Colorado College 79
Minnesota-Morris  105,  Presentation  (NAIA-D2)  100

Franklin beat Florida College 88-84. Go Grizzlies :)

Thanks Grizz
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 22, 2016, 12:52:13 PM
Quote from: AO on November 22, 2016, 09:36:57 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 22, 2016, 08:10:40 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2016, 07:25:56 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 21, 2016, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2016, 09:23:17 AM

Louisiana College has four games listed as "exhibition" on their schedule, two of them on or after Nov 15th.  They also have only 23 regular season games listed.  I'm guessing those two d1 exhibitions are real games, which would be interesting since they beat d1 McNeese State on the 15th.

I've got an email into the SID for confirmation, but we might have a D1 victor on the first day of the season.




great catch Hoops.. it virtually has to be, given their are scores for the 2 pre-11/15 games, they had to be exhibitions, the other two have to be real... I'll change my spreadsheet for tomorrow

It's been pointed out to me that there is a reading of the rule that would allow a team to have extra exhibition games if they gave up an equal number of regular season games.  Dave McHugh reached out to the NCAA to clarify and I'm hoping the LC SID will get back to me promptly.

Interesting... I'll hold off on the change... let me know

LC says they're sacrificing regular season games for those extra two to be exhibitions.  I'm not sure why - the only thing that changes is whether the stats count or not.  No selection committee will care either way.  We're waiting to hear from the NCAA, but I doubt the college would do it without knowing for sure.  Strange.
So every tough non-conference game on your schedule, just call it an exhibition and it stays off your record and helps you get an at-large bid?

No - this is a D1 so the rule about playing a higher division kicks in and allows for one team to count it and another to call it an exhibition.

You can't do that in the division and both teams have to sign off on it. You can't have one D3 play it for real and the other not for real. Doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on November 22, 2016, 02:02:47 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 22, 2016, 12:52:13 PM
No - this is a D1 so the rule about playing a higher division kicks in and allows for one team to count it and another to call it an exhibition.

You can't do that in the division and both teams have to sign off on it. You can't have one D3 play it for real and the other not for real. Doesn't work that way.
Interesting, I definitely side with Ryan here in wondering why LC would do this.  Any D-1 wins or losses are only considered under the secondary criteria, and I don't believe we've ever had an at-large bid decided based mainly upon a D-1 win or loss. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 22, 2016, 02:55:03 PM
Well... to be honest, only decided truly if other teams in consideration also played those teams. The overall WL isn't usually seriously considered when secondary criteria is used... it is considered in terms of "anyone play the same opponent?"

I agree... seems pointless.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 22, 2016, 03:08:04 PM
I'm sure LC does it for the money and would rather sacrifice two counting games to get the cash.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 22, 2016, 03:13:14 PM
You can still do it for the money and count it as a real game - check out others in Division III and Coppin State who has made it a standard in D1.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Just Bill on November 22, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
I don't know the situation here, but there is a weird quirk where a D-I can call a game an exhibition, but the opposing D-III team has to count it as a real game. It stems from the two Divisions working off different definitions of what counts as a playing season. I'm still pretty sure LC can't count three exhibitions though. The third one of these would have to be official.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 22, 2016, 03:27:47 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on November 22, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
I don't know the situation here, but there is a weird quirk where a D-I can call a game an exhibition, but the opposing D-III team has to count it as a real game. It stems from the two Divisions working off different definitions of what counts as a playing season. I'm still pretty sure LC can't count three exhibitions though. The third one of these would have to be official.

I do not know of any situation where a D1 can call a game an exhibition and a DIII can call it a game. Normally it is a DIII can call it an exhibition and DI can call it a real game as long as it is after the DI season begins. The reason is D1's season starts earlier than DIII's (Nov. 15 most years). Also, DIIIs can have exhibition games AFTER Nov. 15, but that rule was only clarified two years ago.

As for LC... as Ryan as stated before (via my interptation to him), I suspect LC can count more than two exhibition games IF they take those games away from their overall total.

For example, the NESCAC does NOT allow exhibition games UNLESS the team chooses to take away from their season total of 25 (may be 24 in the NESCAC). I have a feeling that any team can play more than two exhibition games (allowed by NCAA rule) if they use up a game from their 25 game allotment. In other words, you have 27-games total (25 in-season) to use as you see fit. If you play 3 exhibition games, you are limited to 24 regular season games. And since DIII allows exhibition games, for now, to be played in the regular season... you see quirks like we are seeing with LC.

I do have emails and calls into the NCAA to try and get clarification.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 22, 2016, 07:39:53 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 22, 2016, 03:13:14 PM
You can still do it for the money and count it as a real game - check out others in Division III and Coppin State who has made it a standard in D1.

Oh, I know that. I just told my wife the insane schedule Mississippi Valley State has this year, along with most of the SWAC and MEAC. It looks like Louisiana College gets $$ from Southland schools and UTEP.

They may want their coach to have a nicer record or something.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2016, 08:51:16 AM
Games of 11/22/16

Texas Permian Basin (NCAA-D2) 112, Sul Ross State 88
Southern Virginia  75,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  73
Boston University (NCAA-D1) 91, Western New England 54
Eckerd (NCAA-D2) 111, Franklin 85
Western Connecticut  84,  Dean College  (uscaa)  68
Siena Heights (NAIA-D2)  78 , Adrian  59
Minnesota-Moorhead (NCAA-D2) 107, Concordia-Moorhead 74
St. Cloud State (NCAA-D2) 95, St. John's 77
Fisher (NAIA-D2)  71 , Lyndon State  67
DePauw   98 ,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)   58
Pacific   83 ,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)   45
Northwest (Wash.) (NAIA-D2)  78 , Pacific Lutheran  63
Corban (NAIA-D2)  95 , Willamette  56
Chatham   71 ,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)   60
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1) 97, Westminster (Pa.) 67
Illinois-Springfield (NCAA-D2) 90, Blackburn 74
Eureka  101,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  85
Greenville  178,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  125
UW-La Crosse   72 ,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)   59

D3 versus      
           W    L
NCAA-D1   0   9
NCAA-D2   2   11
NAIA-D1   2   4
NAIA-D2   12   11
NCCAA-D1   2   0
NCCAA-D2   11   2
USCAA   34   8
Other   3   1


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2016, 11:24:21 AM
Games of 11/23

Maine-Presque Isle  54,  Central Maine CC  (Other)  52


Old favorite UMPI with a win!!!   (Their first of the season)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2016, 02:39:52 PM
Games of 11/25

Hawaii Pacific (NCAA-D2) 79, Carleton 70
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  83,  Cal Maritime  (NAIA-D2)  79
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 83, Calvin 55
Hope  93,  Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  80
Mass-Boston  76,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  50
Hofstra (NCAA-D1) 89, Medaille 56
Valley City State (NAIA-D2) 85, Crown 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2016, 10:13:29 AM
Games of 11/26

Carleton  68,  BYU-Hawaii  (NCAA-D2)  59   
DePauw  86,  East-West  (Other)  77   
Pomona-Pitzer  68,  Cal Maritime  (NAIA-D2)  59   
Aquinas (NAIA-D2) 94, Calvin 86   
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 95, Hope 78   
Merchant Marine  53,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  52   
Texas-Tyler  71,  Jarvis Christian  (NAIA-D1)  70   
Wartburg  83,  Governors State  (NAIA-D2)  82   
Maine (NCAA-D1) 96, Maine-Presque Isle 45   
Penn State Lehigh Valley (USCAA) 122, Penn College 111   
Linfield  104,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  34   
Iowa Wesleyan  87,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  82   


D3 versus      
          W   L
NCAA-D1   0   11
NCAA-D2   3   12
NAIA-D1   3   4
NAIA-D2   16   15
NCCAA-D1   2   0
NCCAA-D2   12   1
USCAA   37   9
Other   6   1

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2016, 06:31:36 AM
Games of 11/27

Carroll  93,  East-West  (Other)  76
Abilene Christian (NCAA-D1) 71, Howard Payne 55
Penn St.-Schuylkill (USCAA) 90, McDaniel 84
Delaware (NCAA-D1) 84, Bryn Athyn 51
Linfield  107,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  62

Linfield plays an outmanned Northwest Indian College 2 days in a row.... I'd love to hear a reasonable explanation on that... No one else to play?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 28, 2016, 01:10:54 PM
Many D-2 and D-3 schools have played doubleheaders against them - both men's and women's. They need games before their tournament in March. I think a lot of time teams help with travel for them so they get a couple games out of it, too.

They play quite a few community colleges as well.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 29, 2016, 07:22:48 AM
Games of 11/28/16

Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 68, Maine-Presque Isle 63
Widener  84,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  58
SUNY-ESF (USCAA) 66, Cazenovia 65
CU-Colorado Springs (NCAA-D2) 74, Colorado College 63
Methodist  94,  St. Andrews  (NAIA-D2)  82
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 30, 2016, 06:31:20 AM
Games of 11/29

Concordia (Texas)  98,  Huston-Tillotson  (NAIA-D1)  94
Berea  88,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  78
Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D1) 75, Maranatha Baptist 73
Pine Manor  138,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  97
Colgate (NCAA-D1) 91, Union 68
Bemidji State (NCAA-D2) 101, Northland 58
Minnesota-Morris  112,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  73
UW-River Falls  72,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2016, 07:28:27 AM
Games of 11/30

Note the game between Towson and Goucher, while listed on D3hoops and not shown as an exhibition on Goucher's site, is not included here... Goucher's schedule shows 26 games, and Towson is the only non Division 3 opponent.. therefore, I'm assuming it's an exhibition

Villa Maria (uscaa) 78, Houghton 68
Akron (NCAA-D1) 95, Adrian 41
Evansville (NCAA-D1) 83, Wabash 39
Emerson  84,  Dean College  (uscaa)  70
Jarvis Christian (NAIA-D1) 80, Austin 72
Occidental  77,  Bristol  (USCAA)  59
Coastal Carolina (NCAA-D1) 88, Methodist 59
North Carolina Wesleyan  92,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2016, 07:33:48 AM
Games of 12/1/16

Valley Forge  87,  Kentucky Christian  (NAIA-D2)  68
Berea  96,  Crown (Tn.)  (USCAA)  52
Maranatha Baptist  86,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  85
University of Dallas  103,  Southwestern Adventist  (Other)  60
Cal Lutheran  108,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  91
Piedmont  91,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  88

D3 versus      
              W       L
NCAA-D1   0   17
NCAA-D2   3   14
NAIA-D1   4   5
NAIA-D2   19   15
NCCAA-D1   3   1
NCCAA-D2   16   1
USCAA   43   13
Other   9   1

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 02, 2016, 12:29:47 PM
The category I always keep my eye on is the D3 vs. NAIA-D2 line. D3 usually comes out on the short end of the stick by season's end against NAIA-D2. Right now D3 is ahead, which is certainly good to see.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2016, 06:33:29 AM
Games of 12/2/16

North Carolina Wesleyan  87,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  73
Johnson (Tn.) (NCCAA-D2) 103, Valley Forge 80
College of New Rochelle  91,  King's College NY  (USCAA)  48
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  90,  San Diego Christian  (NAIA-D1)  62
Sarah Lawrence  100,  Pratt  (USCAA)  71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 03, 2016, 08:40:44 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 02, 2016, 12:29:47 PM
The category I always keep my eye on is the D3 vs. NAIA-D2 line. D3 usually comes out on the short end of the stick by season's end against NAIA-D2. Right now D3 is ahead, which is certainly good to see.

I don't think it was that way 10+ years ago, though.  I think perhaps the NAIA2 teams have been scheduling weaker D3 opponents recently - or the top D3 programs have found it less beneficial to take those games?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 03, 2016, 10:39:02 AM
It's really all about the geographic luck of the draw more than anything else. The most common D3 vs. NAIA-D2 scenario tends to involve geographic outliers (southern teams; West Coast teams; Michigan, outstate Minnesota, and Maine teams; etc.) or crosstown neighbors (e.g., Adrian vs. Siena Heights or UW-LaCrosse vs. Viterbo). Just take a look at the D3 teams that played NAIA-D2 opponents this past week: Northland, Minnesota-Morris, UW-River Falls, Methodist, Pomona-Pitzer, Wartburg, Calvin, Hope, CMS, and Crown.

That, and late cancellations in which the D3 team needs an opponent on comparatively short notice (and, since NAIA teams are allowed to play 32 games, they're more likely to have open dates available), seem to be the biggest reasons why D3 teams play NAIA-D2s.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 04, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2005, 09:50:07 AM
Greg: D3 teams have done much better against NAIA 2 opponents over the past three years than they have this year.

2002  118-58 (.670)
2003  92-60 (.605)
2004  93-62 (.600)
2005  64-69 (.481)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 04, 2016, 04:49:40 PM
Yep. I knew that it had been awhile. Thanks for looking that up, sac.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2016, 07:34:39 PM
Games of 12/3/16

Norwich  97,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  63
Greensboro  87,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  63
Valley Forge  84,  Grace Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  81
Wiley (NAIA-D1) 101, Concordia (Texas) 96
Berea  86,  Oakland City  (NCAA-D2)  63
College of New Rochelle  95,  The New School  (Other)  44
Silver Lake (USCAA) 84, Maranatha Baptist 73
SUNY-ESF (USCAA) 65, Alfred State 52
Hobart  66,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  61
UMBC (NCAA-D1) 98, Messiah 59
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1) 87, Oberlin 72
Stephen F. Austin (NCAA-D1) 90, Centenary (La.) 59
Occidental  88,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  71
Westmont (NAIA-D1) 91, Pomona-Pitzer 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2016, 07:41:51 PM
Games of 12/4/16

Bridgewater State  121,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  77

D3 versus      
             W   L
NCAA-D1   0   20
NCAA-D2   4   14
NAIA-D1   5   7
NAIA-D2   20   15
NCCAA-D1   3   1
NCCAA-D2   19   2
USCAA   47   15
Other   11   1



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2016, 05:24:47 AM
Games of 12/5

Sul Ross State  76,  Southwest (N.M.)  (NAIA-D1)  74
UT-Arlington (NCAA-D1) 99, Texas-Dallas 49
Maine-Presque Isle  68,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  62
St. Francis (Ill.) (NAIA-D2) 80, Kalamazoo 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2016, 06:19:40 AM
Games of 12/6

Alfred State  101,  Davis  (uscaa)  59
Trine  119,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  61
Johnson State  94,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  65
Dean College (uscaa) 88, Wheelock 75
Evergreen St. (NAIA-D2) 92, Lewis and Clark 81
Johnson & Wales (Col.) (NAIA-D2) 93, Colorado College 91
Life Pacific (NCCAA-D1) 74, Chapman 63
Occidental  72,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  64
Minnesota-Morris  NA,  Mayville State  (NAIA-D2)  NA   postponed -  blizzard
LaGrange  98,  Selma  (Other)  53
UW-Eau Claire  68,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 08, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
Games of 12/7/16

Fisher (NAIA-D2) 81, Rivier 52
Marian (Ind.) (NAIA-D2) 83, Anderson 81
Grace (Neb.) (NCCAA-D1) 81, Nebraska Wesleyan 79
Valley Forge  95,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  67
Calvin  92,  Grace Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  70
Concordia (Ore.) (NCAA-D2) 103, George Fox 81
Puget Sound  120,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  48
Emory and Henry  127,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  101
Chatham  78,  Penn St.-New Kensington  (USCAA)  77
University of Dallas  95,  Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  78
St. Francis (N.Y.) (NCAA-D1) 69, Mount St. Vincent 51
Sage  102,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  46
Quincy (NCAA-D2) 90, MacMurray 70
Greensboro  103,  Johnson and Wales (N.C.)  (USCAA)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2016, 11:18:07 AM
Games of 12/8/16


Maranatha Baptist  78,  Emmaus  (other)  76         
Daniel Webster  84,  Dean College  (uscaa)  79         
North Carolina Wesleyan  86,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  74         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2016, 06:22:48 AM
Games of 12/9/16

Eastern Mennonite  88,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  73
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 85, Southern Vermont 81
Juniata  93,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  60
Lakeland  89,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  58
SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 101, Cazenovia 89
Brown (NCAA-D1) 90, Emerson 58
Pacific Lutheran  73,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  70
Chapman  85,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  72
UC Irvine (NCAA-D1) 80, Pomona-Pitzer 53
Piedmont  95,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  91

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2016, 04:05:10 AM
Games of 12/10/16

Bridgewater (Va.)  82,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  69
Lynchburg  105,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  61
Massachusetts College  82,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  79
Wayland Baptist (NAIA-D1) 102, Sul Ross State 99
Delaware State (NCAA-D1) 92, Keystone 69
Brown (NCAA-D1) 89, Johnson and Wales 59
Dean College (uscaa) 86, Rivier 71
Simpson  97,  Kansas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  59
Maranatha Baptist  88,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  72
Northwood (Mi.) (NCAA-D2) 88, Albion 72
Illinois College  98,  Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  75
Cal State San Bernadino (NCAA-D2) 57, Pomona-Pitzer 42
North Alabama (NCAA-D2) 87, Huntingdon 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2016, 04:18:26 AM
Games of 12/11/16


Maine-Presque Isle  72,  Unity  (USCAA)  60
College of New Rochelle  101,  Culinary Institute  (Other)  32
Columbia (NCAA-D1) 84, Manhattanville 42


D3 versus      
              W   L
NCAA-D1   0   27
NCAA-D2   4   19
NAIA-D1   6   8
NAIA-D2   23   21
NCCAA-D1   3   3
NCCAA-D2   28   2
USCAA   63   18
Other   15   1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2016, 05:50:23 AM
Game of 12/12/16

Sewanee  91,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  80
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2016, 04:30:29 AM
Games of 12/13/16

Daniel Webster  76,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  69
Redlands  78,  Bristol  (USCAA)  71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2016, 05:45:56 AM
Games of 12/14

Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 119, College of New Rochelle 103
Madonna (NAIA-D2) 84, Olivet 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 16, 2016, 06:09:00 AM
No games vs Non D3 on 12/15
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2016, 03:47:32 AM
Games of 12/16

Liberty (NCAA-D1) 81, Clarks Summit 33
Bethel  87,  Concordia-St. Paul  (NCAA-D2)  69
St. Elizabeth  2,  Pratt  (USCAA)  0      St. Elizabeth claims forfeit.... wonder what happened?
Chapman  100,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  62

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 17, 2016, 12:56:34 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 17, 2016, 03:47:32 AM
St. Elizabeth  2,  Pratt  (USCAA)  0      St. Elizabeth claims forfeit.... wonder what happened?

Perhaps Pratt took a fall. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 17, 2016, 01:18:04 PM
Wow  :)


Pratt game is now just listed as a cancellation.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 17, 2016, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: sac on December 17, 2016, 01:18:04 PM
Wow  :)


Pratt game is now just listed as a cancellation.


Maybe St E realized they could pick up another game somewhere if it was a cancellation rather than a forfeit?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Smitty Oom on December 17, 2016, 04:57:22 PM
Bethel MIAC was able to knock off Concordia St. Paul (NCAA DII) of the NSIC by double digits. Bethel is a very good team who is currently receiving votes for the top 25, look for them to possibly dethrone a Tommie team who has had an average start in defending their National Championship.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 17, 2016, 05:03:58 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 17, 2016, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: sac on December 17, 2016, 01:18:04 PM
Wow  :)


Pratt game is now just listed as a cancellation.


Maybe St E realized they could pick up another game somewhere if it was a cancellation rather than a forfeit?

Or maybe their sense of sportsmanship kicked in - better late than never.  I've very rarely seen anyone claim a forfeit if the opposing team has any semi-reasonable excuse whatsoever for not playing.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2016, 06:12:37 PM
Games of 12/17

Robert Morris (Chicago) (NAIA-D2) 77, North Central (Ill.) 70
Spring Arbor (NAIA-D2) 90, Olivet 61
Westmont (NAIA-D1) 80, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 64


D3 versus      
             W   L
NCAA-D1   0   29
NCAA-D2   5   19
NAIA-D1   6   9
NAIA-D2   24   24              AND LOOK   NAIA D2 has caught up !!!!
NCCAA-D1   4   3
NCCAA-D2   30   2
USCAA   65   20
Other   15   1

There are close to 40 more D3 vs NAIA-D2 games scheduled to be played
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2016, 04:30:50 AM
Game of 12/18/16

Drexel (NCAA-D1) 84, Kean 44
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 20, 2016, 01:36:58 PM
Games of 12/19/16

Lafayette (NCAA-D1) 104, Moravian 67
Albion  80,  Spring Arbor  (NAIA-D2)  75         (and D3 goes 1 over .500 vs NAIA-D2)
Eastern Illinois (NCAA-D1) 101, Fontbonne 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 21, 2016, 01:41:31 PM
Games of 12/20/16


Menlo (NAIA-D1) 72, Benedictine 70
Dakota Wesleyan (NAIA-D2) 84, Dubuque 67
Simpson  81,  Presentation  (NAIA-D2)  70
Texas St. (NCAA-D1) 87, Howard Payne 37
St. Francis (Ill.) (NAIA-D2) 105, Eureka 90     

NAIA D2 and our D3 guys are now even w/l for the season
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 22, 2016, 09:53:28 AM
Games of 12/21/16


Presentation (NAIA-D2) 92, Dubuque 76
Simpson  52,  Northwestern Ohio  (NAIA-D2)  38
Kalamazoo  78,  Lawrence Tech  (NAIA-D2)  74
New Hampshire (NCAA-D1) 89, Daniel Webster 26
Linfield  75,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  70


D3 versus      
             W   L
NCAA-D1   0   34
NCAA-D2   5   19
NAIA-D1   6   10
NAIA-D2   28   27
NCCAA-D1   4   3
NCCAA-D2   31   2
USCAA   65   20
Other   15   1
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 23, 2016, 04:42:56 AM
Games of 12/22/16

Lehigh (NCAA-D1) 93, Cabrini 72
Wagner (NCAA-D1) 94, Staten Island 42
Evansville (NCAA-D1) 68, Mount St. Joseph 55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 23, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
Alcorn State 83, Rust 68 on 12/22.

http://www.alcornsports.com/boxscore.aspx?id=2141&path=mbball
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 23, 2016, 05:39:50 PM
Score of 12/23/16

Michigan-Dearborn (NAIA-D2) 64, Adrian 62   

This puts D3 and NAIA D2 back to even   

   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 23, 2016, 05:41:40 PM
Smed... as always, thanks for the additional info in regards to Rust
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2016, 03:56:25 AM
Game of 12/28/16

James Madison (NCAA-D1) 82, Eastern Mennonite 65         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2016, 04:16:26 AM
Games of 12/29


Defiance  78,  Ohio State Lima  (Other)  46
Cal Maritime (NAIA-D2) 72, Occidental 52
Whittier  88,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  72
Bethel (Ind.) (NAIA-D2) 101, Manchester 67
Transylvania  116,  Ohio University-Chillicothe  (Other)  75
Miami (Ohio) (NCAA-D1) 89, Olivet 69

Through 12/29

D3 versus      
             W   L
NCAA-D1   0   40
NCAA-D2   5   20
NAIA-D1   7   10
NAIA-D2   29   30
NCCAA-D1   4   3
NCCAA-D2   31   2
USCAA   65   20
Other   17   1

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 31, 2016, 10:53:29 AM
Games of 12/30/16

Bluffton  78,  Ohio Midwestern  (USCAA)  38
Hanover  118,  Ohio State Lima  (Other)  65
Moravian  91,  Penn State Lehigh Valley  (USCAA)  69
Occidental  77,  Fraser Valley  (Other)  59
Redlands  86,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  69
Walsh (NCAA-D2) 107, Penn State-Altoona 61
Binghamton (NCAA-D1) 101, Marywood 54
Dubuque  89,  Clarke  (NAIA-D1)  72
Concordia-Moorhead  99,  Valley City State  (NAIA-D2)  96
Willamette  79,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  74
Randolph  88,  Penn St. Mont Alto  (USCAA)  69
Ashland (NCAA-D2) 94, Thiel 56
Warner (NAIA-D2) 88, Fontbonne 53
Webster  83,  Morthland  (NCCAA-D1)  67


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2017, 08:28:33 AM
Games of 12/31

Grove City  71,  Ohio Midwestern  (USCAA)  58
Montclair State  87,  Penn State Lehigh Valley  (USCAA)  78
St. Thomas (Tx.) (NAIA-D1) 92, University of the Ozarks 76
Wartburg  92,  Waldorf  (NAIA-D2)  90
Occidental  74,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  53
Webber International (NAIA-D2) 72, Fontbonne 59
Maryville (Mo.) (NCAA-D2) 83, Principia 73
Warner (NAIA-D2) 100, Bethany Lutheran 86
Thomas (Ga.) (NAIA-D2) 88, LaGrange 74

D3 versus      
         W   L
NCAA-D1   0   41
NCAA-D2   5   23
NAIA-D1   8   11
NAIA-D2   32   34    uh oh   slipping behind NAIA D2
NCCAA-D1   5   3
NCCAA-D2   32   2
USCAA   70   20
Other   21   1

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 03, 2017, 08:18:38 AM
Games of 1/2/17

Maryland Eastern Shore (NCAA-D1) 90, Valley Forge 65
New Hampshire (NCAA-D1) 95, Wheelock 50
Occidental  81,  Shepherd (Cal.)  (NCCAA-D1)  73
St. Augustine's (NCAA-D2) 75, William Peace 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 04, 2017, 08:08:47 AM
Games of 1/3/17

Bethany Lutheran  86,  Johnson (Fla.)  (NCCAA-D2)  79
Presentation (NAIA-D2) 86, Minnesota-Morris 83
UW-Stout  87,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 05, 2017, 08:16:09 AM
Games of 1/4

Illinois Tech  101,  East-West  (Other)  88
Vaughn (USCAA) 75, Bryn Athyn 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 06, 2017, 08:20:03 AM
Games of 1/5

Valley Forge  97,  Piedmont International  (NCCAA-D2)  86
Whittier  NA,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  NA

Whittier game score not posted anywhere as of 8:00 AM Eastern
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 06, 2017, 08:32:41 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 06, 2017, 08:20:03 AM
Games of 1/5

Valley Forge  97,  Piedmont International  (NCCAA-D2)  86
Whittier  NA,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  NA

Whittier game score not posted anywhere as of 8:00 AM Eastern
I think it was 109-70 Poets
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 06, 2017, 08:46:16 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 06, 2017, 08:32:41 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 06, 2017, 08:20:03 AM
Games of 1/5

Valley Forge  97,  Piedmont International  (NCCAA-D2)  86
Whittier  NA,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  NA

Whittier game score not posted anywhere as of 8:00 AM Eastern
I think it was 109-70 Poets

Thanks Grizz... curious where you found it...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 07, 2017, 08:05:37 AM
Game of 1/6/17


Valley Forge  77,  Kentucky Christian  (NAIA-D2)  63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 08, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Games of 1/7/17

Valley Forge  NA,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  NA
Maranatha Baptist  90,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  59
SUNY-Canton  89,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  46
Yale (NCAA-D1) 102, Mitchell 46

Not sure if the Valley Forge game, which was a part of a Christian Colleges Tourney in Georgia, was weathered out, or if the score simply hadn't hit any sites as of 9:00AM
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 08, 2017, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 08, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Games of 1/7/17

Valley Forge  NA,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  NA
Maranatha Baptist  90,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  59
SUNY-Canton  89,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  46
Yale (NCAA-D1) 102, Mitchell 46

Not sure if the Valley Forge game, which was a part of a Christian Colleges Tourney in Georgia, was weathered out, or if the score simply hadn't hit any sites as of 9:00AM

I get the impression they don't work weekends at Valley Forge.  Friday scores were up on their website in a timely manner.  Saturday was not.  Either they cancelled the last day and went home, or they just decided to wait until Monday.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 09, 2017, 08:18:26 AM
Game of 1/8/17


SUNY-Canton  101,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 12, 2017, 08:38:28 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 08, 2017, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 08, 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Games of 1/7/17

Valley Forge  NA,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  NA
Maranatha Baptist  90,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  59
SUNY-Canton  89,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  46
Yale (NCAA-D1) 102, Mitchell 46

Not sure if the Valley Forge game, which was a part of a Christian Colleges Tourney in Georgia, was weathered out, or if the score simply hadn't hit any sites as of 9:00AM

I get the impression they don't work weekends at Valley Forge.  Friday scores were up on their website in a timely manner.  Saturday was not.  Either they cancelled the last day and went home, or they just decided to wait until Monday.

Valley Forge vs Pensacola Christian listed as cancelled
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 12, 2017, 09:12:39 AM
Games of 1/9/17

University of the Ozarks  109,  Baptist Bible (Mo.)  (NCCAA-D2)  35
Rust  NA,  Fisk  (NAIA-D1)  NA
IPFW (NCAA-D1) 115, Olivet 60
Brandeis  83,  Dean College  (uscaa)  73

Rust Fisk is listed on Fisk schedule... no score on NCAA page or NAIA page... or anywhere else..... ANYBODY? ANYBODY?


Games of 1/10/17

Fisher (NAIA-D2) 88, College of New Rochelle 75
Colby  83,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  71
Piedmont  83,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  77
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 13, 2017, 02:29:58 PM
Game of 1/11/17

Cal State-East Bay (NCAA-D2) 94, UC Santa Cruz 62



Game of 1/12/17

Berea  108,  Cincinnati-Clermont  (USCAA)  74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 14, 2017, 08:09:04 AM
Game of 1/13/17

SUNY Canton 68  Albany Pharmacy (USCAA) 50
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 18, 2017, 09:43:58 AM
Games of 1/14/17

Valley Forge  91,  Florida National  (USCAA)  88         
Wilberforce (NAIA-D2) 89, Berea 70         
Maine-Presque Isle  78,  SUNY-Delhi  (USCAA)  75   

Games of 1/15/17

The Apprentice School (USCAA) 73, Valley Forge 69         
Alfred State  90,  Five Towns College  (USCAA)  81         
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 68, Maine-Presque Isle 61      

Game of 1/16/17

Westminster (Mo.)  88,  Kansas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  73

Games of 1/17/17

Kentucky Christian (NAIA-D2) 94, Berea 85
Johnson & Wales (Col.) (NAIA-D2) 87, Colorado College 65
Northwestern (Minn.)  78,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  45
Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 91, Martin Luther 69

   
      


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: KnightSlappy on January 18, 2017, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 12, 2017, 09:12:39 AM
Games of 1/9/17
Rust  NA,  Fisk  (NAIA-D1)  NA

Rust Fisk is listed on Fisk schedule... no score on NCAA page or NAIA page... or anywhere else..... ANYBODY? ANYBODY?


Not sure if you've collected it yet, but this game is on the NCAA page now. http://stats.ncaa.org/game/index/4271625?org_id=586

Rust 79, Fisk 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 18, 2017, 10:41:30 AM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 18, 2017, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 12, 2017, 09:12:39 AM
Games of 1/9/17
Rust  NA,  Fisk  (NAIA-D1)  NA

Rust Fisk is listed on Fisk schedule... no score on NCAA page or NAIA page... or anywhere else..... ANYBODY? ANYBODY?


Not sure if you've collected it yet, but this game is on the NCAA page now. http://stats.ncaa.org/game/index/4271625?org_id=586

Rust 79, Fisk 70

GREAT...... THANKS
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 18, 2017, 12:19:26 PM
Looks like D3's chances of taking the season series against NAIA-D2 have faded away.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 18, 2017, 02:44:13 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 18, 2017, 12:19:26 PM
Looks like D3's chances of taking the season series against NAIA-D2 have faded away.

yes, it looks like we'll be a loser barring an incredible comeback...

D3 is 33-40 against NAIA-D2.....  12 scheduled games left, plus 2 possible makeups... if there are 14 games, D3 would have to go 11-3.... if only 12 games, 10-2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 26, 2017, 08:42:28 AM
Games of 1/18/17
Maine-Presque Isle  74,  Central Maine CC  (Other)  71
Valley Forge  93,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  89

Games of 1/19/17
Vaughn (USCAA) 75, College of New Rochelle 70

Games of 1/20/17
Villa Maria (uscaa) 82, SUNY-Canton 80
Alfred State  87,  Pratt  (USCAA)  60

Games of 1/21/17
UC Santa Cruz  73,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  66
SUNY-Canton  79,  SUNY-Delhi  (USCAA)  71
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 80, Alfred State 60
Dean College (uscaa) 87, Massachusetts College 69

no games 1/22, 1/23

Games of 1/24/17
Cal Merced (NAIA-D2) 58, UC Santa Cruz 53
Illinois Tech  73,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  60
Eureka  111,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  82

Games of 1/25
University of the Ozarks  79,  Haskell  (NAIA-D2)  74
Berea  NA,  Ohio University-Chillicothe  (Other)  NA    (not posted at 8:00 AM on any site)
College of New Rochelle  109,  Davis  (uscaa)  85
Valley Forge  75,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  69
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 70, Connecticut College 63
Colby  95,  Dean College  (uscaa)  68

       Berea beat OU Chillicothe 102-68


Through 1/25
D3 versus      
          W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   24
NAIA-D1   9   11
NAIA-D2   34   42
NCCAA-D1   8   3
NCCAA-D2   40   2
USCAA   88   26
Other   24   1



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 03, 2017, 08:24:29 AM
Catching up

No games 1/26/17

Games of 1/27/17:
Concordia (Mi.) (NAIA-D2) 81, Concordia (Wis.) 71
Concordia (Neb.) (NAIA-D2) 104, Concordia-Chicago 82
College of New Rochelle  69,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  46

Games of 1/28/17:
Berea  93,  Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  78
Moody Bible (NCCAA-D2) 82, Maranatha Baptist 80
UC Santa Cruz  72,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  56

Games of 1/29/17:
Alfred State  76,  SUNY-Delhi  (USCAA)  67

Games of 1/30/17:
Life Pacific (NCCAA-D1) 67, UC Santa Cruz 66

Games of 1/31/17:
North Central (Minn.)  87,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  51

No Games 2/1/17

Games of 2/2/17:
Pine Manor  98,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  67


D3 versus      
          W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   24
NAIA-D1   9   11
NAIA-D2   34   44
NCCAA-D1   8   4
NCCAA-D2   41   3
USCAA   92   26
Other   26   1





Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 13, 2017, 02:00:10 PM
Games of 2/3/17:
Berea  71,  Florida College  (USCAA)  59
Davis (uscaa) 76, Maine-Presque Isle 74

Games of 2/4/17:
Maranatha Baptist  104,  Providence-Manitoba  (NCCAA-D2)  69
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 81, Pine Manor 69
Stillman (NAIA-D1) 124, Rust 64

Games of 2/5/17:
Berea  85,  Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  79
Maine-Presque Isle  79,  Unity  (USCAA)  70

Games of 2/6/17:
Pacific Union (NAIA-D2) 75, UC Santa Cruz 48
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 79, Worcester State 49

games of 2/7/17:
McMurry  121,  Ecclesia  (NCCAA-D1)  95
Maranatha Baptist  73,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  56
Wilson  77,  Christendom  (USCAA)  57
Dean College (uscaa) 94, Newbury 70

Games of 2/8/17
Berea  79,  Wilberforce  (NAIA-D2)  63

Games of 2/9/17
Maine-Presque Isle  79,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  63
Maranatha Baptist  72,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  62

Games of 2/10/17:
Rust  NA,  Fisk  (NAIA-D1)  NA     ANYONE?  ANYONE?

Games of 2/11/17
Cincinnati-Clermont (USCAA) 71, Berea 62
College of New Rochelle  93,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  88
Judson (NAIA-D2) 79, Maranatha Baptist 70
UC Santa Cruz  101,  Shepherd (Cal.)  (NCCAA-D1)  62
SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 83, Alfred State 82
Valley Forge  97,  Villa Maria  (uscaa)  89

Games of 2/12/17
Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 86, Maine-Presque Isle 64


Through  2/12/17
D3 versus      
           W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   23
NAIA-D1   9   13
NAIA-D2   35   48
NCCAA-D1   10   4
NCCAA-D2   42   3
USCAA   100   31
Other   27   1















Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 23, 2017, 10:55:37 AM
Games of 2/13/17:
Bethesda (NCCAA-D1) 75, UC Santa Cruz 71
MacMurray  98,  Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  68


Games of 2/14/17:
Nebraska Wesleyan  144,  Kansas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  72
Trinity Int'l (NAIA-D2) 84, Maranatha Baptist 78
Illinois Tech  75,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  74
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 64, Valley Forge 60
SUNY-Canton  63,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  44
University of Dallas  94,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  91


Games of 2/15/17:
Gogebic CC (Other) 91, Finlandia 86
College of New Rochelle  74,  The New School  (Other)  69
Johnson and Wales  70,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  66


Games of 2/16/17:
Illinois Tech  89,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  56
Maranatha Baptist  73,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  57
Valley Forge  85,  Central Pennsylvania  (USCAA)  76


games of 2/17/17:
Maine-Presque Isle  81,  Landmark  (Other)  46


Games of 2/18/17
Berea  96,  Midway  (NAIA-D2)  91
Maranatha Baptist  95,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  90
SUNY-Canton  90,  Villa Maria  (uscaa)  71
Mansfield State (NCAA-D2) 90, Alfred State 66
Valley Forge  85,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  68


Games of 2/19/17
SUNY-Canton  87,  SUNY-Delhi  (USCAA)  81


Games of 2/20/17:
no games

Games of 2/21/17
Kentucky Christian (NAIA-D2) 102, Berea 92

Games of 2/22/17
UC Santa Cruz  106,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  65

D3 versus      
           W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   24
NAIA-D1   9   13
NAIA-D2   37   50
NCCAA-D1   12   5
NCCAA-D2   46   3
USCAA   106   32
Other   30   2


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on October 11, 2017, 10:19:01 PM
Not basketball, but I thought this was cool: http://www.ncaa.com/news/fieldhockey/article/2017-10-1-diii-messiah-blanks-dii-shippensburg-cross-division?sf121237054=11/field-hockey

Well, bummer. Looks like the link doesn't work. Messiah #1 in field hockey in D3 beat Shippensburg #1 in D2.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 11, 2017, 10:31:56 PM
Here we go!
http://www.ncaa.com/news/fieldhockey/article/2017-10-11/field-hockey-diii-messiah-blanks-dii-shippensburg-cross-division
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on October 11, 2017, 11:20:51 PM
^^^ Thanks.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2017, 11:57:07 AM
games of 11/15/17

McDaniel  66,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  62
Marywood  80,  Penn State Lehigh Valley  (USCAA)  69
Defiance  103,  Ohio Midwestern  (USCAA)  77
Northern Iowa (NCAA-D1) 72, Wartburg 43
Long Island (NCAA-D1) 104, New Rochelle 68
Fairleigh Dickinson (NCAA-D1) 111, FDU-Florham 49
Wilkes  83,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  58
Grinnell  153,  Emmaus  (other)  100
Green Mountain  63,  Paul Smiths  (USCAA)  44
Johnson State  79,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  63
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 108, Lyndon State 79
Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2) 91, Lewis and Clark 90
Pacific Lutheran  92,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  80
Puget Sound  92,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  80
Grove City  78,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  69
Eureka  117,  Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  52
Pfeiffer  137,  Barber Scotia  (Other)  100
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2017, 03:49:32 AM
games of 11/16/17:

Abilene Christian (NCAA-D1) 112, Howard Payne 62            
Southern Virginia  68,  Christendom  (USCAA)  41            
Chapman  82,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  67            

Note, D3hoops scoreboard posted scores of Piedmont-Kennesaw St   and Letourneau-Stephen F Austin games were exhibitions....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2017, 08:23:54 AM
Games of 11/17/18

Villa Maria (uscaa) 98, Buffalo State 92
Lake Forest  101,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  76
Lycoming  94,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  84
Puget Sound  119,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  91
Hanover  103,  Kent St.-Tuscarawas  (uscaa)  49
Thomas  85,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  67
UW-Platteville  86,  Waldorf  (NAIA-D2)  56
Thiel  71,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  52
Pitt-Greensburg  79,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  69
Southern Virginia  83,  Penn St. Mont Alto  (USCAA)  69
Delaware (NCAA-D1) 93, Wesley 78
Grinnell  128,  Wright State Lake  (Other)  95
Occidental  89,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2017, 05:16:46 AM
Games of 11/18/17


Buffalo State  114,  Point Park  (NAIA-D2)  87
Rockford  88,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  74
DeSales  69,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  53
Pacific  87,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  74
Lesley  61,  Unity  (USCAA)  54
St. John's  73,  St. Cloud State  (NCAA-D2)  67
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 69, St. Scholastica 60
Thomas More  96,  Kent St.-Tuscarawas  (uscaa)  44
Maine-Presque Isle  85,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  71
UW-Whitewater  75,  Waldorf  (NAIA-D2)  57
Westminster (Pa.)  99,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  61
Grinnell  153,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  115
SUNY-Cobleskill  91,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  68
Northwest Christian (NAIA-D2) 89, Willamette 84
Central Michigan (NCAA-D1) 103, Eureka 68
MacMurray  97,  Central Christian  (NAIA-D2)  76
Bemidji State (NCAA-D2) 87, Northland 64
Berea  97,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  91
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2017, 06:06:43 AM
Games of 11/19

Unity (USCAA) 91, Rivier 79
Yale (NCAA-D1) 107, Curry 42
Northland  97,  Oak hills Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  47
Pfeiffer  105,  Barber Scotia  (Other)  54

Through 11/19

D3 versus:
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          7      
NCAA-D2                   1          1      
NAIA-D1                     0          0      
NAIA-D2                     8          4      
NCCAA-D1                   1          0      
NCCAA-D2                   5          0      
USCAA                        21          2      
Other                           5          0      




Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2017, 06:16:00 AM
Conference vs D3 non conference    (games vs non D3 NOT INCLUDED)    Thru 11/19

1   NESCAC      19   1   0.950
2   NWC              10   1   0.909
3   MWC              13   2   0.867
4   MIAC      13   4   0.765
5   ASC              13   5   0.722
6   Newmac      13   5   0.722
7   MACC      17   7   0.708
8   CCIW      12   5   0.706
9   IIAC              14   6   0.700
10   CAC              16   7   0.696
11   NCAC      14   7   0.667
12   WIAC      10   5   0.667
13   CC               15   8   0.652
14   LEC              11   7   0.611
15   CCC             14   9   0.609
16   NJAC             14   9   0.609
17   CSAC      12   9   0.571
18   UAA               8   6   0.571
19   ODAC      16   13   0.552
20   OAC               11   9   0.550
21   PrAC               11   9   0.550
22   LL                9   9   0.500
23   Independents      4   4   0.500
24   E8             10   11   0.476
25   MACF      8   9   0.471
26   Landmark      9   11   0.450
27   USAC      9   11   0.450
28   SCAC      8   10   0.444
29   SUNY      8   11   0.421
30   SAA              8   12   0.400
31   NECC      7   11   0.389
32   Sky              6   10   0.375
33   Mascac      7   12   0.368
34   HCAC      6   13   0.316
35   NEAC      10   22   0.313
36   AMCC      5   12   0.294
37   NACC      5   14   0.263
38   GNAC      6   17   0.261
39   CUNY      5   15   0.250
40   SLIAC      4   14   0.222
41   NAC              4   15   0.211
42   MIAA              3   12   0.200
43   AAIC              2   8   0.200
44   UMAC      2   16   0.111
45   SCIAC      1   9   0.100
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2017, 06:15:57 AM
Games of 11/20/17

Green Mountain  97,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  55
Vanguard (NAIA-D1) 67, Cal Lutheran 63
Occidental  81,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  46
Cazenovia  75,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  47
UW-La Crosse  73,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2017, 06:26:40 AM
Games of 11/21/17

Lubbock Christian (NCAA-D2) 81, Sul Ross State 63
Wagner (NCAA-D1) 107, Staten Island 64
Bluffton  79,  Ohio Midwestern  (USCAA)  58
Franklin  92,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  58
Drew  86,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  67
Loyola (Md.) (NCAA-D1) 97, Goucher 45
Wilkes  74,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  65
Ferris State (NCAA-D2) 99, Olivet 84
Minnesota-Moorhead (NCAA-D2) 97, Concordia-Moorhead 61
Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 90, Penn State-Abington 83
Dean  70,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  67
Northwest (Wash.) (NAIA-D2) 81, Pacific Lutheran 66
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1) 91, Westminster (Pa.) 83
Biola (NAIA-D1) 70, Pomona-Pitzer 60
Eureka  111,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  74
Oakland City (NCAA-D2) 102, Fontbonne 87
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 84, Minnesota-Morris 77
High Point (NCAA-D1) 99, Methodist 63
Delaware (NCAA-D1) 88, North Carolina Wesleyan 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on November 22, 2017, 08:25:21 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2017, 06:26:40 AM
Games of 11/21/17

Lubbock Christian (NCAA-D2) 81, Sul Ross State 63
Wagner (NCAA-D1) 107, Staten Island 64
Bluffton  79,  Ohio Midwestern  (USCAA)  58
Franklin  92,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  58
Drew  86,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  67
Loyola (Md.) (NCAA-D1) 97, Goucher 45
Wilkes  74,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  65
Ferris State (NCAA-D2) 99, Olivet 84
Minnesota-Moorhead (NCAA-D2) 97, Concordia-Moorhead 61
Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 90, Penn State-Abington 83
Dean  70,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  67
Northwest (Wash.) (NAIA-D2) 81, Pacific Lutheran 66
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1) 91, Westminster (Pa.) 83
Biola (NAIA-D1) 70, Pomona-Pitzer 60
Eureka  111,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  74
Oakland City (NCAA-D2) 102, Fontbonne 87
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 84, Minnesota-Morris 77
High Point (NCAA-D1) 99, Methodist 63
Delaware (NCAA-D1) 88, North Carolina Wesleyan 70

Also, Mount St. Mary(NCAA-D1) 91, York(Pa) 80
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2017, 09:03:02 AM
Quote from: ronk on November 22, 2017, 08:25:21 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 22, 2017, 06:26:40 AM
Games of 11/21/17

Lubbock Christian (NCAA-D2) 81, Sul Ross State 63
Wagner (NCAA-D1) 107, Staten Island 64
Bluffton  79,  Ohio Midwestern  (USCAA)  58
Franklin  92,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  58
Drew  86,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  67
Loyola (Md.) (NCAA-D1) 97, Goucher 45
Wilkes  74,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  65
Ferris State (NCAA-D2) 99, Olivet 84
Minnesota-Moorhead (NCAA-D2) 97, Concordia-Moorhead 61
Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 90, Penn State-Abington 83
Dean  70,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  67
Northwest (Wash.) (NAIA-D2) 81, Pacific Lutheran 66
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1) 91, Westminster (Pa.) 83
Biola (NAIA-D1) 70, Pomona-Pitzer 60
Eureka  111,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  74
Oakland City (NCAA-D2) 102, Fontbonne 87
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 84, Minnesota-Morris 77
High Point (NCAA-D1) 99, Methodist 63
Delaware (NCAA-D1) 88, North Carolina Wesleyan 70

Also, Mount St. Mary(NCAA-D1) 91, York(Pa) 80

No, Ronk... that was an exhibition game, per York's site... it was reported to D3hoops incorrectly...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2017, 05:53:35 AM
Games of 11/22/17

Sacred Heart (NCAA-D2) 84, Mitchell 60
Whitman  116,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  78

Remember guys... Augustana vs U of Illinois was an exhibition game for Augie... D3hoops needs to make correction as it is currently showing as real game counting against Augie's record....


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 23, 2017, 09:27:02 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2017, 05:53:35 AM
Games of 11/22/17

Sacred Heart (NCAA-D2) 84, Mitchell 60
Whitman  116,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  78

Remember guys... Augustana vs U of Illinois was an exhibition game for Augie... D3hoops needs to make correction as it is currently showing as real game counting against Augie's record....

I'll go make the change, but Augie doesn't have it marked as an exhibition either.  It's in the recap, but nothing on the actual schedule to indicate it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2017, 09:42:03 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 23, 2017, 09:27:02 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2017, 05:53:35 AM
Games of 11/22/17

Sacred Heart (NCAA-D2) 84, Mitchell 60
Whitman  116,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  78

Remember guys... Augustana vs U of Illinois was an exhibition game for Augie... D3hoops needs to make correction as it is currently showing as real game counting against Augie's record....

I agree Ryan, about it not being marked as an exhibition on the schedule.. I caught it early because there are 26 games on their schedule, with U of I being the obvious choice for exhibition.. but I double checked this morning and saw the recap comment too...

I'll go make the change, but Augie doesn't have it marked as an exhibition either.  It's in the recap, but nothing on the actual schedule to indicate it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: deiscanton on November 23, 2017, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2017, 05:53:35 AM
Games of 11/22/17

Sacred Heart (NCAA-D2) 84, Mitchell 60
Whitman  116,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  78

Remember guys... Augustana vs U of Illinois was an exhibition game for Augie... D3hoops needs to make correction as it is currently showing as real game counting against Augie's record....

Sacred Heart is NCAA-D1, not D2.  Sacred Heart competes in the NEC.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2017, 10:24:59 AM
Quote from: deiscanton on November 23, 2017, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2017, 05:53:35 AM
Games of 11/22/17

Sacred Heart (NCAA-D2D1) 84, Mitchell 60
Whitman  116,  Walla Walla  (NAIA-D2)  78

Remember guys... Augustana vs U of Illinois was an exhibition game for Augie... D3hoops needs to make correction as it is currently showing as real game counting against Augie's record....


Sacred Heart is NCAA-D1, not D2.  Sacred Heart competes in the NEC.
Thanks Desi... guess I was thinking back in the day!! Good grief, they went D1 in 1999!!!!   Correction made
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 23, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2017, 10:24:59 AM
Quote from: deiscanton on November 23, 2017, 09:48:06 AM

Sacred Heart is NCAA-D1, not D2.  Sacred Heart competes in the NEC.
Thanks Desi... guess I was thinking back in the day!! Good grief, they went D1 in 1999!!!!   Correction made

I blame Mitchell:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YzM5vrLCIdI/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 25, 2017, 07:14:44 AM
Games of 11/24/17

Aquinas (NAIA-D2) 78, Calvin 73
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 88, Hope 61
Mass-Boston  61,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  57
Wartburg  78,  Graceland  (NAIA-D1)  71
Chapman  84,  Cal Merced  (NAIA-D2)  57
Dallas Baptist (NCAA-D2) 103, Concordia (Texas) 90
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2017, 04:46:19 AM
Games of 11/25/17

Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 88, Calvin 59
Hope  89,  Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  83
Emerson  94,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  71
Wartburg  78,  Waldorf  (NAIA-D2)  67
Cal Merced (NAIA-D2) 77, Whittier 75
Grinnell  147,  Kansas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  106
Pacific  101,  Multnomah  (NAIA-D2)  88
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2017, 03:46:49 AM
Games of 11/26

Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 76, Valley Forge 72
Penn St.-Schuylkill (USCAA) 62, McDaniel 61
Grand View (NAIA-D1) 78, Simpson 69
Boston University (NCAA-D1) 83, Wheaton (Mass.) 48
St. Vincent  86,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  66
Longwood (NCAA-D1) 107, North Carolina Wesleyan 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2017, 03:48:57 AM
Through  11/26
NCAA D3 Versus:
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          15      
NCAA-D2                   1          6      
NAIA-D1                     1          3      
NAIA-D2                     17          10      
NCCAA-D1                   1          0      
NCCAA-D2                   7          0      
USCAA                        28          5      
Other                           6          0      


Conference vs NCAA D3 non conference   (Non D3 games not included)

1   NWC              25   4   0.862
2   NESCAC      34   6   0.850
3   CCIW      25   10   0.714
4   WIAC      22   9   0.710
5   NCAC      24   10   0.706
6   MIAC      20   9   0.690
7   CC              19   10   0.655
8   MWC              19   10   0.655
9   Newmac      19   10   0.655
10   NJAC              20   11   0.645
11   MACC      26   15   0.634
12   IIAC              23   14   0.622
13   CAC              20   13   0.606
14   UAA              20   13   0.606
15   ODAC      25   19   0.568
16   ASC              18   14   0.563
17   CSAC      18   14   0.563
18   SCAC      19   16   0.543
19   OAC              20   17   0.541
20   CCC              21   18   0.538
21   LEC              17   15   0.531
22   SUNY      14   13   0.519
23   LL              15   15   0.500
24   Independents   8   8   0.500
25   USAC      17   18   0.486
26   E8              15   18   0.455
27   PrAC              14   18   0.438
28   Landmark      12   16   0.429
29   AMCC      14   19   0.424
30   NECC      11   15   0.423
31   Mascac      13   18   0.419
32   MACF      13   19   0.406
33   Sky                9   15   0.375
34   HCAC      11   20   0.355
35   NAC               9   19   0.321
36   MIAA               8   17   0.320
37   SAA              11   24   0.314
38   NEAC      16   35   0.314
39   SLIAC      11   26   0.297
40   GNAC      10   25   0.286
41   NACC      7   19   0.269
42   CUNY      8   23   0.258
43   UMAC      8   24   0.250
44   AAIC              5   15   0.250
45   SCIAC      3   20   0.130434783



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2017, 04:01:47 AM
Games of 11/27/17

Concordia (Texas)  99,  St. Thomas (Tx.)  (NAIA-D1)  97
UT-Arlington (NCAA-D1) 73, Texas-Dallas 53
St. Elizabeth  79,  King's College NY  (USCAA)  54
Linfield  79,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  66
Virginia Wesleyan  114,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  86
Berry  106,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 28, 2017, 01:02:59 PM
I should know this, but... these are games that only count? Or are these counting exhibition games as well?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2017, 02:22:45 PM
No exhibitions.... ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 28, 2017, 04:00:43 PM
Thanks... was just curious more than anything.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 29, 2017, 04:51:08 AM
Games of 11/28/17


SUNY-Canton  80,  Paul Smiths  (USCAA)  73
Maranatha Baptist  103,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  51
Lindenwood (Mo) (NCAA-D2) 83, Beloit 58
Lawrence  83,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  65
Millersville (NCAA-D2) 114, Penn State-Berks 68
Pacific  79,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  73
Pacific Lutheran  78,  Multnomah  (NAIA-D2)  66
Chapman  90,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  75
Occidental  88,  Westcliff  (Other)  67
Pomona-Pitzer  97,  Life Pacific  (NCCAA-D1)  74
Buffalo State  92,  SUNY-Delhi  (USCAA)  79
Crown  81,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  59
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 82, Minnesota-Morris 72
Berea  86,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2017, 08:31:47 PM
Earlham wins an absolute barnburner, edging past Faithhaven Baptist 110-17. Baptist kept it close as it was only 66-4 at halftime.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 30, 2017, 12:14:37 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 29, 2017, 08:31:47 PM
Earlham wins an absolute barnburner, edging past Faithhaven Baptist 110-17. Baptist kept it close as it was only 66-4 at halftime.

When you lose to Earlham(!!) by 93 points, you SHOULD have sense enough to go back under your rock! :o
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on November 30, 2017, 12:26:45 AM
I saw Earlham last winter, very young then and much more talented than you might guess.  They've been competitive in every game thus far vs D3. 

Fairhaven Baptist not so much.  Although Fairhaven did open its season against a correctional institution team so they've got that going for them.   http://www.fairhavenbaptistcollege.org/student-life/athletics/basketball

Fairhaven only took 30 shots, mostly because they turned the ball over 45 times
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on November 30, 2017, 01:00:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEeoF_t4sfQ

Fairhaven has some...issues. While this is about the church and academy, not the college, it's still part of the same boat.

This year they had a kid drown in the pool there.



Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 30, 2017, 10:10:13 AM
Games of 11/29/17


Villa Maria (uscaa) 79, Houghton 73
Earlham  110,  Fairhaven Baptist  (Other)  17
Bard  95,  Vaughn  (USCAA)  57
UC Irvine (NCAA-D1) 112, Whittier 65
Warren Wilson (USCAA) 108, Brevard 92
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2017, 04:33:25 AM
Game of 11/30/17

Coast Guard  81,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  75
Maine-Presque Isle  75,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  58
St. Francis (N.Y.) (NCAA-D1) 104, New Rochelle 79
Crown  79,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  40
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2017, 05:38:45 AM
Games of 12/1/17

North Carolina Wesleyan  103,  Columbia International  (NCCAA-D1)  59
Centenary (La.)  111,  Johnson & Wales (Col.)  (NAIA-D2)  109
Occidental  76,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2017, 05:58:07 PM
Games of 12/2/17

Greensboro  94,  Columbia International  (NCCAA-D1)  72
New Rochelle  104,  The New School  (Other)  45
Maranatha Baptist  89,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  44
University of Dallas  82,  Johnson & Wales (Col.)  (NAIA-D2)  65
Cal State Fullerton (NCAA-D1) 86, Cal Lutheran 58
Chapman  71,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  70
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  84,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  65
Westmont (NAIA-D1) 70, Pomona-Pitzer 69
Great Lakes Christian (NCCAA-D2) 97, Martin Luther 81
Valley City State (NAIA-D2) 112, Minnesota-Morris 89
North Central (Minn.)  66,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  62
UW-Platteville  87,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  48
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
Game of 12/3/17

New Rochelle  105,  Culinary Institute  (Other)  64

D3 w/l through 12/3/17

D3 versus
                                 W         L   
NCAA-D1                   0          19   
NCAA-D2                   1          8   
NAIA-D1                     2          4   
NAIA-D2                     23          13   
NCCAA-D1                   4          0   
NCCAA-D2                   15          1   
USCAA                        37          7   
Other                           13          0   

D3 vs Non Conference D3 opponents:

1   NESCAC      49   9   0.845
2   NWC              25   5   0.833
3   WIAC      34   11   0.756
4   MIAC      22   10   0.688
5   CCIW      28   13   0.683
6   NCAC      27   13   0.675
7   Newmac      33   17   0.660
8   MWC              19   10   0.655
9   NJAC              22   12   0.647
10   CC              21   12   0.636
11   IIAC              24   14   0.632
12   MACC      27   16   0.628
13   CAC              20   13   0.606
14   ODAC      31   23   0.574
15   OAC              25   19   0.568
16   UAA              26   20   0.565
17   CSAC      19   15   0.559
18   ASC              23   19   0.548
19   CCC              21   18   0.538
20   LEC              22   20   0.524
21   Independents      11   10   0.523809524
22   SCAC      23   21   0.523
23   SUNY      19   18   0.514
24   USAC      23   24   0.489
25   E8              21   22   0.488
26   LL              18   19   0.486
27   MACF      20   25   0.444
28   PrAC              14   18   0.438
29   Mascac      22   29   0.431
30   NECC      18   24   0.429
31   Landmark      15   20   0.429
32   AMCC      14   21   0.400
33   Sky             12   19   0.387
34   SAA                17   29   0.370
35   NAC              11   21   0.344
36   HCAC      13   26   0.333
37   MIAA              12   25   0.324
38   AAIC              9   20   0.310
39   NEAC      17   38   0.309
40   SLIAC      11   26   0.297
41   GNAC      14   36   0.280
42   CUNY      11   29   0.275
43   NACC      7   20   0.259
44   UMAC      10   33   0.233
45   SCIAC      5   23   0.179


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2017, 06:34:30 AM
Games of 12/4/17

Southwest (N.M.) (NAIA-D1) 89, Sul Ross State 80
Nebraska Wesleyan  107,  Doane  (NAIA-D2)  80
Maranatha Baptist  95,  Emmaus  (other)  53
Trine  103,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  67
SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 57, Cazenovia 53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: mailsy on December 05, 2017, 10:12:58 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 03, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
Game of 12/3/17

New Rochelle  105,  Culinary Institute  (Other)  64

D3 w/l through 12/3/17

D3 versus
                                 W         L   
NCAA-D1                   0          19   
NCAA-D2                   1          8   
NAIA-D1                     2          4   
NAIA-D2                     23          13   
NCCAA-D1                   4          0   
NCCAA-D2                   15          1   
USCAA                        37          7   
Other                           13          0   

D3 vs Non Conference D3 opponents:

1   NESCAC      49   9   0.845
2   NWC              25   5   0.833
3   WIAC      34   11   0.756
4   MIAC      22   10   0.688
5   CCIW      28   13   0.683
6   NCAC      27   13   0.675
7   Newmac      33   17   0.660
8   MWC              19   10   0.655
9   NJAC              22   12   0.647
10   CC              21   12   0.636
11   IIAC              24   14   0.632
12   MACC      27   16   0.628
13   CAC              20   13   0.606
14   ODAC      31   23   0.574
15   OAC              25   19   0.568
16   UAA              26   20   0.565
17   CSAC      19   15   0.559
18   ASC              23   19   0.548
19   CCC              21   18   0.538
20   LEC              22   20   0.524
21   Independents      11   10   0.523809524
22   SCAC      23   21   0.523
23   SUNY      19   18   0.514
24   USAC      23   24   0.489
25   E8              21   22   0.488
26   LL              18   19   0.486
27   MACF      20   25   0.444
28   PrAC              14   18   0.438
29   Mascac      22   29   0.431
30   NECC      18   24   0.429
31   Landmark      15   20   0.429
32   AMCC      14   21   0.400
33   Sky             12   19   0.387
34   SAA                17   29   0.370
35   NAC              11   21   0.344
36   HCAC      13   26   0.333
37   MIAA              12   25   0.324
38   AAIC              9   20   0.310
39   NEAC      17   38   0.309
40   SLIAC      11   26   0.297
41   GNAC      14   36   0.280
42   CUNY      11   29   0.275
43   NACC      7   20   0.259
44   UMAC      10   33   0.233
45   SCIAC      5   23   0.179

First of all thank you hopefan for this info. +1
Anyway this year I am very pleased with the CSAC teams with their OOC record. It took a little bit to find this but I found it on another page. Last year at this time (12-4-16 to be exact) the CSAC was 13-19 .406 against D3 non-conference. This year they are now 21-15 .583 as of 12-4-17. It's still to early to say the conference is going to be over .500. But last year they finished 28-34 .452. So the record got better as the year went on.
GO CSAC!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2017, 10:51:46 AM
Mailsy... great idea... here is a comparison for all conferences..D3 vs Non conference D3


    Thru 12/4/16  last season                        Thru 12/3/17 Current Season
   1   NESCAC      51   14   0.785         1   NESCAC      49   9   0.845
   2   UAA      36   13   0.735                 2   NWC              25   5   0.833
   3   WIAC      29   11   0.725         3   WIAC      34   11   0.756
   4   IIAC      25   11   0.694                 4   MIAC      22   10   0.688
   5   OAC      31   16   0.660                  5   CCIW      28   13   0.683
   6   Landmark      24   13   0.649         6   NCAC      27   13   0.675
   7   MIAC      24   13   0.649         7   Newmac      33   17   0.660
   8   CCIW      27   15   0.643         8   MWC              19   10   0.655
   9   Newmac      32   18   0.640         9   NJAC              22   12   0.647
   10   LL      33   21   0.611                10   CC              21   12   0.636
   11   CAC      24   16   0.600         11   IIAC              24   14   0.632
   12   LEC      25   17   0.595                 12   MACC      27   16   0.628
   13   SCIAC      13   9   0.591         13   CAC              20   13   0.606
   14   CC      17   12   0.586                 14   ODAC      31   23   0.574
   15   SUNY      24   17   0.585         15   OAC              25   19   0.568
   16   MACC      21   15   0.583         16   UAA              26   20   0.565
   17   NWC      15   11   0.577         17   CSAC      19   15   0.559
   18   MACF      24   18   0.571         18   ASC              23   19   0.548
   19   ASC      20   15   0.571         19   CCC              21   18   0.538
   20   HCAC      20   16   0.556         20   LEC              22   20   0.524
   21   NAC      19   17   0.528         21   Independents      11   10   0.523809524
   22   E8      27   25   0.519                  22   SCAC      23   21   0.523
   23   ODAC      26   26   0.500         23   SUNY      19   18   0.514
   24   PrAC      17   18   0.486         24   USAC      23   24   0.489
   25   NJAC      15   16   0.484         25   E8              21   22   0.488
   26   SAA      20   22   0.476         26   LL              18   19   0.486
   27   NCAC      19   23   0.452         27   MACF      20   25   0.444
   28   CCC      18   22   0.450         28   PrAC              14   18   0.438
   29   MIAA      18   22   0.450         29   Mascac      22   29   0.431
   30   USAC      25   31   0.446         30   NECC      18   24   0.429
   31   SLIAC      17   23   0.425         31   Landmark      15   20   0.429
   32   CSAC      13   19   0.406         32   AMCC      14   21   0.400
   33   MWC      10   16   0.385         33   Sky             12   19   0.387
   34   SCAC      17   30   0.362         34   SAA                17   29   0.370
   35   CUNY      13   26   0.333         35   NAC              11   21   0.344
   36   NECC      13   26   0.333         36   HCAC      13   26   0.333
   37   NACC      10   22   0.313         37   MIAA              12   25   0.324
   38   Mascac      13   30   0.302         38   AAIC              9   20   0.310
   39   AMCC      12   28   0.300         39   NEAC      17   38   0.309
   40   Sky      14   34   0.292                  40   SLIAC      11   26   0.297
   41   Independents      16   43   0.271         41   GNAC      14   36   0.280
   42   UMAC      9   25   0.265         42   CUNY      11   29   0.275
   43   GNAC      10   28   0.263         43   NACC      7   20   0.259
   44   NEAC      8   31   0.205         44   UMAC      10   33   0.233
                                                    45   SCIAC      5   23   0.179
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2017, 05:27:41 AM
games of 12/5/17


Maine (NCAA-D1) 75, Maine-Presque Isle 55
Hope  88,  Grace Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  74
Valley City State (NAIA-D2) 74, Concordia-Moorhead 57
Fontbonne  97,  St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D1)  86
Montreat (NAIA-D2) 103, Brevard 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
games of 12/6/17

Penn State York (USCAA) 81, Valley Forge 68
Penn St.-Wilkes Barre (USCAA) 75, Clarks Summit 70
Moravian  81,  Penn State Lehigh Valley  (USCAA)  65
Kalamazoo  81,  St. Francis (Ill.)  (NAIA-D2)  60
Lewis and Clark  88,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  80
Linfield  69,  Northwest Christian  (NAIA-D2)  66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 08, 2017, 04:52:55 AM
Games of 12/7/17

Alfred State  78,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  49
Johnson and Wales  74,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  63
Webster  89,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  65
North Central (Minn.)  119,  Oak Hills Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  116
Kentucky Christian (NAIA-D2) 91, Berea 89
UW-Stout  94,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Titan Q on December 08, 2017, 06:43:55 AM
Thank you for doing this, hopefan.  I really like this thread.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 08, 2017, 09:25:57 AM
Glad it's appreciated TQ... easily achieved with my spreadsheet...

BY THE WAY  ....     the weekly standings of D3 conference vs D3 non conference will be moving to the appropriate thread "Records of D3 conference vs non-conference games" this weekend... I had forgotten that a separate thread for that had been created last year...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2017, 05:01:41 AM
Games of 12/8/17


Eastern Mennonite  112,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  84
Juniata  90,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  54
King's  104,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  72
Maranatha Baptist  89,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  59
Lewis and Clark  119,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  70
Corban (NAIA-D2) 86, Willamette 73
West Coast Baptist (NCCAA-D2) 82, Occidental 77
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2017, 04:18:00 AM
Games of 12/9/17


Bridgewater (Va.)  82,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  73
Misericordia  102,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  77
Susquehanna  89,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  57
Maranatha Baptist  60,  Oak Hills Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  57
Southern Virginia  88,  Carolina Christian  (Other)  59
Spring Arbor (NAIA-D2) 71, Albion 56
Evergreen State (NAIA-D2) 65, Linfield 55
Willamette  90,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  73
Vanguard (NAIA-D1) 80, Cal Lutheran 73
SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 81, Houghton 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 11, 2017, 07:15:09 AM
Games of 12/10/17

Maine-Presque Isle  80,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  72
Rivier  99,  Paul Smiths  (USCAA)  72
New Rochelle  87,  Touro  (Other)  71
Willamette  103,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  74
Sarah Lawrence  85,  Pratt  (USCAA)  64
Pfeiffer  129,  Carolina Christian  (Other)  73


D3 record through Dec 10, 2017

D3 vs
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          20      
NCAA-D2                   1          8      
NAIA-D1                     3          6      
NAIA-D2                     29          19      
NCCAA-D1                   4          0      
NCCAA-D2                   21          2      
USCAA                        49          11      
Other                           18          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2017, 05:44:48 AM
no games 12/11/17
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2017, 04:21:27 AM
Games of 12/12

Maryland (NCAA-D1) 76, Catholic 59
Spring Arbor (NAIA-D2) 76, Olivet 50
Illinois College  95,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  85
Lakeland  107,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Team First on December 13, 2017, 10:02:15 AM
I didn't get to see the Catholic game but the score looked surprisingly competitive in the first half. Did Maryland play their regular rotation?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on December 13, 2017, 01:10:25 PM
According to the newspaper report, MD was missing 3 with injuries but everyone else played. Catholic led for 1st 10 mins.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2017, 05:46:45 AM
Games of 12/13/17

Southern Vermont  78,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  64
Point (NAIA-D2) 87, Berry 80
UW-Eau Claire  64,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  44
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2017, 04:30:12 AM
Game of 12/14/17..... and it was UGLY

Central  110,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  37

Of course long time fans remember that Faith Baptist Bible was the opponent to Grinnell several years ago when Grinnell's Jack Taylor ran up 138 points in one game...
So I went to Faith's site to see how things were going, given a lopsided score against Central... things aren't quite as bad as one might expect, as Faith has rung up 2 wins this season... One of those was against Union College... not the D3 Union College of Schenectady NY, but the 7th Day Adventist Union College of Omaha, Nebraska... And Faith hammered them, 56-39....heck, Little Priest Tribal College hammered Union College, 88-51!!!   Yes Union College might be an interesting school to follow, as they enter Christmas break at 0-12....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 15, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
Little Priest Tribal College is a real school! Wow.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 16, 2017, 03:18:50 AM
Games of 12/15/17


Mount St. Mary's (NCAA-D1) 89, Washington College 67
Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 76, Luther 75
Adrian  85,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  61
Wilson  98,  Christendom  (USCAA)  43
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2017, 03:31:49 AM
Games of 12/16


Rochester (Mich.) (USCAA) 77, Finlandia 64
Portland Bible (NCCAA-D2) 69, Pacific Lutheran 64
Centre  97,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  56
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  NA,  Westmont  (NAIA-D1)  NA   Cancelled, Wildfires....  so sad what's happening out there
Pomona-Pitzer  85,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2017, 05:39:57 AM
Game of 12/17/17


SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 78, Morrisville State 74


D3 record through games of 12/17/17:

D3 Vs :
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          22      
NCAA-D2                   1          8      
NAIA-D1                     3          6      
NAIA-D2                     32          22      
NCCAA-D1                   5          0      
NCCAA-D2                   24          3      
USCAA                        51          13      
Other                           19          0      
                     
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 18, 2017, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2017, 05:39:57 AM
Game of 12/17/17


SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 78, Morrisville State 74




Well, hello, Delhi...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 18, 2017, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 18, 2017, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2017, 05:39:57 AM
Game of 12/17/17


SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 78, Morrisville State 74



Well, hello, Delhi...

of extremely minor note, unlike the city in India, the small upstate New York mountain town is pronounced "DEL-high."
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2017, 03:21:53 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on December 18, 2017, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: smedindy on December 18, 2017, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2017, 05:39:57 AM
Game of 12/17/17


SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 78, Morrisville State 74



And as I'd imagine few readers of this thread, if any, have ever been to SUNY Delhi, I'll let you know they have one of the most picturesque sites for a small college gym that I've ever seen.. on top of a very, very steep hill overlooking the campus and town, with a 360 degree view of God's country... mountains and forests... it is stunning... I believe Delhi is in the initial stages of applying to become D3... they've already shown they can compete with NEAC schools... remember, this was a 2 year school, a JC team, only several years ago....

Well, hello, Delhi...

of extremely minor note, unlike the city in India, the small upstate New York mountain town is pronounced "DEL-high."
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: gordonmann on December 19, 2017, 12:03:02 AM
SUNY Delhi is an exploratory member of D3 so we may all get to know the Broncos better in a couple years

And, yes, I had to look up the mascot. :)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2017, 05:24:35 AM
Games of 12/18/17


Rose-Hulman  96,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  70
Lafayette (NCAA-D1) 82, Susquehanna 70
Puget Sound  NA,  Warner Pacific  (NAIA-D2)  NA   Cancelled due to train wreck disaster
St. Francis (Pa.) (NCAA-D1) 113, Bethany 77
Hope International (NAIA-D1) 84, Redlands 43
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 20, 2017, 05:14:17 AM
Games of 12/19/17

Simpson  84,  Ave Maria  (NAIA-D2)  78
New Rochelle  NA,  Touro  (Other)  NA        not posted... let's see if it shows up later
Shippensburg (NCAA-D2) 92, Wilson 66
St. Thomas (Fla.) (NAIA-D2) 116, Mitchell 59
St. Cloud State (NCAA-D2) 111, Iowa Wesleyan 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 20, 2017, 11:13:47 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 20, 2017, 05:14:17 AM
Games of 12/19/17

Simpson  84,  Ave Maria  (NAIA-D2)  78
New Rochelle  NA,  Touro  (Other)  NA        not posted... let's see if it shows up later
Shippensburg (NCAA-D2) 92, Wilson 66
St. Thomas (Fla.) (NAIA-D2) 116, Mitchell 59
St. Cloud State (NCAA-D2) 111, Iowa Wesleyan 68

New Rochelle won 85-62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 20, 2017, 12:46:42 PM
Thanks Caz  ;)

Strangely, New Rochelle plays Touro 3 games in a row, spread from Dec 10 to Jan 5... that's 2 for 2 for CNR.... Ad lots of luck finding out anything about Touro's team... I found several home games listed under athletics, and that was it...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 21, 2017, 12:47:46 AM
Games of 12/20/17

Alvernia  77,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  59
Kalamazoo  63,  Lawrence Tech  (NAIA-D2)  53
Lewis and Clark  77,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  65
Louisiana-Monroe (NCAA-D1) 74, Centenary (La.) 51
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 22, 2017, 05:17:49 AM
No more Games vs NON-D3 teams until 12/28

D3 W/L through 12/21/17:

      
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          25      
NCAA-D2                   1          10      
NAIA-D1                     3          7      
NAIA-D2                     34          23      
NCCAA-D1                   5          0      
NCCAA-D2                   26          3      
USCAA                        52          13      
Other                           20          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 29, 2017, 06:08:45 AM
Games of 12/28


Angelo State (NCAA-D2) 91, McMurry 54
Adrian  64,  Siena Heights  (NAIA-D2)  51
IPFW (NCAA-D1) 99, Olivet 93
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 29, 2017, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 29, 2017, 06:08:45 AM
Games of 12/28


Angelo State (NCAA-D2) 91, McMurry 54
Adrian  64,  Siena Heights  (NAIA-D2)  51
IPFW (NCAA-D1) 99, Olivet 93

Olivet was winning at halftime and thus almost had a transitive win over Indiana, and in turn, Notre Dame.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2017, 06:33:42 AM
Games of 12/29/17


Bluffton  94,  OSU Lima  (Other)  57
Wright State Lake (Other) 67, Defiance 61
Lake Forest  87,  Roosevelt  (NAIA-D2)  71
Wittenberg  95,  Ohio University-Chillicothe  (Other)  46
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 31, 2017, 05:22:16 AM
games of 12/30/17


Pitt-Greensburg  93,  OSU Lima  (Other)  55
Waynesburg  62,  Wright State Lake  (Other)  59
St. Francis (Ill.) (NAIA-D2) 84, Lake Forest 55
Hanover  93,  Ohio University-Chillicothe  (Other)  54
North Central (Ill.)  117,  Robert Morris (Chicago)  (NAIA-D2)  72
Binghamton (NCAA-D1) 113, Elmira 65
Florida National (USCAA) 84, Emmanuel 69
Clarke (NAIA-D1) 77, Dubuque 74
Southeastern (NAIA-D2) 76, Amherst 65
Ashland (NCAA-D2) 82, Thiel 53
Occidental  63,  Cal Merced  (NAIA-D2)  49
Maryville (Mo.) (NCAA-D2) 88, Eureka 65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2018, 12:40:25 AM
Standings thru 1/1/18         

D3 versus: 

                               W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          27      
NCAA-D2                   1          13      
NAIA-D1                     3          8      
NAIA-D2                     38          25      
NCCAA-D1                   5          0      
NCCAA-D2                   26          3      
USCAA                        52          14      
Other                           25          1      


                     

                             

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 04, 2018, 06:04:11 AM
Games of 1/3/18


Haverford  93,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  80
Johnson & Wales (Fla.) (NAIA-D2) 73, Emmanuel 72
DePauw  103,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 05, 2018, 01:29:58 AM
Game of 1/4/18


Wilson  78,  Penn State York  (USCAA)  65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 06, 2018, 06:16:52 AM
Game of 1/5/18

Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 96, Bryn Athyn 88

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 07, 2018, 06:31:54 AM
Games of 1/6/18

Maine-Presque Isle  76,  New Brunswick-St. John  (Other)  58
UC Santa Cruz  103,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 08, 2018, 03:14:30 AM
Games of 1/7/18

Maine-Presque Isle  95,  New Brunswick-St. John  (Other)  61
MacMurray  116,  Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  87

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 08, 2018, 03:33:05 AM
Win/Loss through 1/7/18

D3 vs:
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          27      
NCAA-D2                   1          13      
NAIA-D1                     3          8      
NAIA-D2                     38          26      
NCCAA-D1                   5          0      
NCCAA-D2                   28          3      
USCAA                        57         16      
Other                           25          0      

Points of interest

Closest scores to NCAA-D1
   Olivet 93  IPFW  99
    Westminster (Pa.) 83   Youngstown State  91

Win over NCAA-D2
    St. John's (Minn.) 73  St Cloud State  67

Loss to Other
    Defiance  61   Wright State Lake   67   noted that Wright State Lake is USCAA... W/L above has been corrected
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 08, 2018, 08:48:21 PM
Have to defend the HCAC... isn't Wright St-Lake a USCAA team?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 09, 2018, 04:44:15 AM
Games of 1/8/18


Alfred State  69,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  61
UC Santa Cruz  81,  Simpson (Calif.)  (NAIA-D2)  76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 09, 2018, 04:46:09 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 08, 2018, 08:48:21 PM
Have to defend the HCAC... isn't Wright St-Lake a USCAA team?

Good catch Griz... I missed it...Have corrected
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 10, 2018, 05:55:08 AM
Games of 1/9/18


Maranatha Baptist  77,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  62
Alvernia  77,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  72
Penn St.-Dubois (USCAA) 100, Penn College 91
Connecticut College  79,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  70
Sewanee  83,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  63
Johnson & Wales (Col.) (NAIA-D2) 88, Colorado College 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 11, 2018, 06:10:03 AM
Games of 1/10


New Rochelle  NA,  Davis  (uscaa)  NA    not reported, check later
UC Santa Cruz  94,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  65
Southwestern Adventist (Other) 59, University of Dallas 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 11, 2018, 01:50:24 PM
http://cnrathletics.com/boxscore.aspx?path=mbball&id=1056

94-66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 12, 2018, 04:12:30 AM
Games of 1/11/18


Johnson State  92,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  67
Pfeiffer  120,  Columbia International  (NCCAA-D1)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 13, 2018, 04:57:53 AM
Game of 1/12/18


Albany Pharmacy (USCAA) 70, Alfred State 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 14, 2018, 06:27:06 AM
Games of 1/13/18


Finlandia  97,  Bay College  (other)  77
New Rochelle  NA,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  NA     once again CNR does not give timely report
Illinois Tech  100,  Robert Morris-Springfield  (USCAA)  60
Pfeiffer  124,  Carolina Christian  (Other)  66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 15, 2018, 03:16:26 PM
Nothing on the Mighty Oaks website either. Did it happen?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 15, 2018, 08:01:11 PM
Out there now

C of New Rochelle. 97    SUNY ESF. 74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 16, 2018, 05:54:05 AM
Games of 1/15/18


Alfred State  92,  Pratt  (USCAA)  43
SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 56, Maine-Presque Isle 51
Pacific Union (NAIA-D2) 83, UC Santa Cruz 74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 17, 2018, 04:03:32 AM
Game of 1/16/18


Thomas  108,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  82
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 18, 2018, 05:26:04 AM
Game of 1/17/18


Roosevelt (NAIA-D2) 65, Illinois Tech 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 19, 2018, 04:29:35 AM
Game of 1/18/18


Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D1) 64, Maranatha Baptist 56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 21, 2018, 04:56:45 AM
Games of 1/20/18

Finlandia  96,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  84
New Rochelle  75,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  64
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 91, Massachusetts College 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 22, 2018, 05:17:10 AM
Game of 1/21/18


SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 78, Alfred State 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 23, 2018, 03:27:01 AM
Games of 1/22/18



Newbury  77,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  67
Williams  104,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 24, 2018, 05:12:59 AM
Games of 1/23/18

SUNY-Canton  68,  SUNY-Delhi  (USCAA)  65
Penn St. Mont Alto (USCAA) 74, Valley Forge 73
New Rochelle  NA,  Vaughn  (USCAA)  NA................................This is usual for New Rochelle.... They'll post it later today...5th time this season
                                                                  New Rochelle   86   Vaughn 75

Maranatha Baptist  98,  Emmaus  (other)  65
Minnesota-Morris  111,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  48
North Central (Minn.)  92,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 25, 2018, 06:19:35 AM
Games of 1/24/18


Maine-Presque Isle  71,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  57
SUNY-Delhi (USCAA) 69, SUNY-Cobleskill 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 26, 2018, 04:54:29 AM
Games of 1/25/18


Maine-Presque Isle  97,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  84
Penn St.-Schuylkill (USCAA) 86, Valley Forge 82
La Sierra (NAIA-D2) 70, UC Santa Cruz 68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 26, 2018, 06:57:48 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 26, 2018, 04:54:29 AM
Games of 1/25/18


Maine-Presque Isle  97,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  84
Penn St.-Schuylkill (USCAA) 86, Valley Forge 82
La Sierra (NAIA-D2) 70, UC Santa Cruz 68

Do you go to the team website for all of these?  I'm just curious because our scoreboard had the UCSC score reversed, because the La Sierra livestats has (and still has) it reversed.  I'm just admiring your tenacity.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 26, 2018, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 26, 2018, 06:57:48 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 26, 2018, 04:54:29 AM
Games of 1/25/18


Maine-Presque Isle  97,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  84
Penn St.-Schuylkill (USCAA) 86, Valley Forge 82
La Sierra (NAIA-D2) 70, UC Santa Cruz 68

Do you go to the team website for all of these?  I'm just curious because our scoreboard had the UCSC score reversed, because the La Sierra livestats has (and still has) it reversed.  I'm just admiring your tenacity.

?? right off the D3hoops scoreboard... though downloaded into my spreadsheet for easy formatting....that's the score that was there when I posted it early this morning....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 26, 2018, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 26, 2018, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 26, 2018, 06:57:48 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 26, 2018, 04:54:29 AM
Games of 1/25/18


Maine-Presque Isle  97,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  84
Penn St.-Schuylkill (USCAA) 86, Valley Forge 82
La Sierra (NAIA-D2) 70, UC Santa Cruz 68

Do you go to the team website for all of these?  I'm just curious because our scoreboard had the UCSC score reversed, because the La Sierra livestats has (and still has) it reversed.  I'm just admiring your tenacity.

?? right off the D3hoops scoreboard... though downloaded into my spreadsheet for easy formatting....that's the score that was there when I posted it early this morning....

Maybe the UCSC SID went in and changed it?  Well, I'm glad to know my mistake didn't linger.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 27, 2018, 05:42:23 AM
Games of 1/26/18


SUNY-Canton  106,  Paul Smiths  (USCAA)  68
McMurry  82,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 28, 2018, 03:50:15 AM
Games of 1/27/18

Concordia (Neb.) (NAIA-D2) 95, Concordia-Chicago 87
Alfred State  102,  Five Towns College  (USCAA)  64
Illinois Tech  66,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  51

Note  Concordia Wis. lost to Concordia Mi. in the Concordia Tourney, but that was an exhibition game for Concordia Wisconsin....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 28, 2018, 09:24:54 PM
Games of 1/28/18

Fisher (NAIA-D2) 81, Maine-Presque Isle 65
New Rochelle  93,  Pratt  (USCAA)  44
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 30, 2018, 05:25:02 AM
Game of 1/29/18


University of Dallas  103,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 31, 2018, 05:06:27 AM
Games of 1/30/18


Belhaven  105,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  77
Berea  118,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  113
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 01, 2018, 06:17:45 AM
Game of 1/31/18


Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 82, Maine-Presque Isle 64

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 02, 2018, 04:08:22 AM
Game of 2/1/18

Pine Manor  66,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  51
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 03, 2018, 04:15:53 AM
Game of 2/2/18


North Central (Minn.)  77,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 04, 2018, 06:03:17 AM
Games of 2/3/18


Bay College (other) 96, Finlandia 76
Maine-Presque Isle  78,  Unity  (USCAA)  56
Maranatha Baptist  85,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  77
UC Santa Cruz  80,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 05, 2018, 06:04:03 AM
Game of 2/4/18

New Rochelle  88,  The New School  (Other)  48
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 06, 2018, 06:45:42 AM
Game of 2/5/18

UC Santa Cruz  91,  Pacific Union  (NAIA-D2)  66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 07, 2018, 05:16:34 AM
Games of 2/6/18


North Park  87,  East-West  (Other)  71
Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D1) 77, Maranatha Baptist 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on February 07, 2018, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 07, 2018, 05:16:34 AM
Games of 2/6/18


North Park  87, East-West (Other)  71
Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D1) 77, Maranatha Baptist 72

What happened to the students from North-South?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 07, 2018, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 07, 2018, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 07, 2018, 05:16:34 AM
Games of 2/6/18


North Park  87, East-West (Other)  71
Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D1) 77, Maranatha Baptist 72

What happened to the students from North-South?
Too busy doing Civil War reenactments
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 08, 2018, 10:35:04 AM
Games of 2/7/18

Villa Maria (uscaa) 76, Alfred State 70
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 97, New Rochelle 88
Illinois Tech  84,  Robert Morris-Peoria  (USCAA)  74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 10, 2018, 05:31:55 AM
Game of 2/9/18


New Rochelle  90,  King's College NY  (USCAA)  34

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 12, 2018, 05:31:50 AM
Games of 2/10/18

Alfred State  83,  SUNY-Delhi  (USCAA)  66
Silver Lake (USCAA) 71, Finlandia 69
Maine-Presque Isle  85,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  82
Illinois Tech  69,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  51
Maranatha Baptist  70,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 12, 2018, 05:36:28 AM
Game of 2/11/18

UC Santa Cruz  79,  Simpson (Calif.)  (NAIA-D2)  65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 13, 2018, 03:57:37 AM
Games of 2/12

McMurry  95,  Ecclesia  (NCCAA-D1)  77
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 91, Newbury 87
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 15, 2018, 06:24:11 AM
Games of 2/14/18


Washington Adventist (NAIA-D2) 77, Valley Forge 70
Albany Pharmacy (USCAA) 70, Green Mountain 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 16, 2018, 04:36:41 AM
Games of 2/15/18

Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 88, Maine-Presque Isle 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 18, 2018, 02:25:18 PM
Games of 2/17/18


Villa Maria (uscaa) 81, Valley Forge 72
New Rochelle  84,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  66
Maranatha Baptist  77,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  59

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 19, 2018, 06:27:58 AM
Game of 2/18/18


Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 93, New Rochelle 82
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on February 19, 2018, 09:15:44 AM
Will you be posting the final W/L records of D3 vs these other divisions?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 20, 2018, 04:53:31 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on February 19, 2018, 09:15:44 AM
Will you be posting the final W/L records of D3 vs these other divisions?

Yes... but after final regular season games are played (the last one being today, 2/20, with Illinois Tech playing East-West), we have to check on the NCCAA and USCAA tourneys next week to see if any dual membership D3 teams are playing....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 20, 2018, 04:55:26 AM
Game on 2/19/18

Pfeiffer  125,  Piedmont International  (NCCAA-D2)  94
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on February 20, 2018, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 20, 2018, 04:53:31 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on February 19, 2018, 09:15:44 AM
Will you be posting the final W/L records of D3 vs these other divisions?

Yes... but after final regular season games are played (the last one being today, 2/20, with Illinois Tech playing East-West), we have to check on the NCCAA and USCAA tourneys next week to see if any dual membership D3 teams are playing....

Thanks. I find this very interesting and appreciate the work you do to gather and post the scores and W/L records.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 21, 2018, 05:16:43 AM
Score of 2/20/18



Illinois Tech  78,  East-West  (Other)  42
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 21, 2018, 06:05:25 AM
NCAA D3 teams Illinois Tech and Dean College will be taking part in this year's USCAA D1 Tourney... the Tourney opens on Feb 28, runs thru March 3... each team gets at least two games..... Illinois Tech is seeded #4, Dean College #7 in the 8 team field.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 22, 2018, 10:27:03 AM
Maranatha Baptist is participating in the NCCAA North regionals, beginning today, Feb.22.... they are the 2nd seed in the region, and open vs Calvary Bible... 

A different level, but no less the spirited competition that leads to a national championship....

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 22, 2018, 05:39:15 PM
Maranatha wins their NCCAA Regional game, 89-65 over Calvary Bible....  a win for D3!!!!!              Maranatha plays again today vs Emmaus in regional semifinals...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 24, 2018, 12:29:49 PM
Maranatha Baptist  100,  Emmaus   60

Maranatha to regional final
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on February 24, 2018, 12:54:35 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 24, 2018, 12:29:49 PM
Maranatha Baptist  100,  Emmaus   60

Maranatha to regional final

Playing the winner of Nazareth-Bethlehem?   ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 24, 2018, 02:44:23 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 24, 2018, 12:54:35 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 24, 2018, 12:29:49 PM
Maranatha Baptist  100,  Emmaus   60

Maranatha to regional final

Playing the winner of Nazareth-Bethlehem?   ;D

I like the Jericho-Caesarea Philippi winner on the other side of that bracket.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on February 25, 2018, 01:11:56 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 24, 2018, 02:44:23 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 24, 2018, 12:54:35 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 24, 2018, 12:29:49 PM
Maranatha Baptist  100,  Emmaus   60

Maranatha to regional final

Playing the winner of Nazareth-Bethlehem?   ;D

I like the Jericho-Caesarea Philippi winner on the other side of that bracket.

Ur vs. Uz was a game for the ages...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 25, 2018, 05:05:38 AM
Maranatha wins the NCCAA D2 Northern Regional,  85-57 over Oak Hills Christian... prayers were said for you naysayers after the game!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 02, 2018, 04:03:13 AM
NCAA D3 teams go 1-3 in the USCAA National Tourney

Rochester (Mich.) (USCAA)  72 , Illinois Tech  62
Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 80, Dean 71

Florida College (USCAA) 89, Dean 80
Illinois Tech  71,  Bluefield State  (USCAA)  51

I'd also note that several D3 players received All American honors from the USCAA

First-Team All-Americans
Spencer Levi   University of Dallas
Brock Butler   Iowa Wesleyan College
Jake Digiorgio   Illinois Tech

Second-Team All-Amerians
Jordan Booker   Dean College
Alex Sanchez   University of Valley Forge
Max Hisatake   Illinois Tech

Honorable Mention All-Americans
Mitchell Drey   Iowa Wesleyan College
Darrius Colvin   University of Dallas
Armani Baker   Dean College
Malik Howze   Illinois Tech


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 02, 2018, 04:12:44 AM
Maranatha Baptist opens up in the NCCAA National Championship Tourney vs Johnson Tennessee on March 8
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 02, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
OK, hate to admit it, but..

As some of you know, I have changed residence from the heart of SLIAC-land. to the D3 wasteland of Florida, where no D3 is to be found save the holiday tourneys of December, just when I'm back up in SLIAC land enjoying Family and friends..  so while My dedication to D3 is obvious (see the several boards I post to regularly), I have also gained a certain amount of appreciation for the D2 program at Eckerd (a school that by size and facilities would be a perfect fit for D3)... so after following the first round of the D3 tourney on the computer tonight (nothing like trying to follow 8 games at once), tomorrow I'll travel over to Florida Southern College in Lakeland Florida to watch Sunshine State Conference Men's and Women's semis.. 4 games back to back, Eckerd seeded no 2 in both tourneys...$5 all day pass for seniors...
AND, I'll be following 2nd round D3 on my phone as long as the batteries hold out!!!!

Really do miss D3
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on March 02, 2018, 02:58:20 PM
Glad you've found a home away from home in the hoops world. We miss you up here. Will mrshopefan accompany you to Lakeland?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 02, 2018, 04:56:30 PM
Mrs hopefan, while actually becoming quite the Eckard fan, has requested and been granted a bye for the day in order to babysit Annie... little does she realize that if Eckard wins both semis, hopefan may want to return to Lakeland for Sunday finals.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 08, 2018, 11:50:45 AM
Score of 3/8/18

Maranatha goes down in first round of NCCAA championship... it appears they still get two more games....

Maranatha Baptist    73    Johnson (Tenn.)    90    Final
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on March 08, 2018, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: hopefan on March 02, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
OK, hate to admit it, but..

As some of you know, I have changed residence from the heart of SLIAC-land. to the D3 wasteland of Florida, where no D3 is to be found save the holiday tourneys of December, just when I'm back up in SLIAC land enjoying Family and friends..  so while My dedication to D3 is obvious (see the several boards I post to regularly), I have also gained a certain amount of appreciation for the D2 program at Eckerd (a school that by size and facilities would be a perfect fit for D3)... so after following the first round of the D3 tourney on the computer tonight (nothing like trying to follow 8 games at once), tomorrow I'll travel over to Florida Southern College in Lakeland Florida to watch Sunshine State Conference Men's and Women's semis.. 4 games back to back, Eckerd seeded no 2 in both tourneys...$5 all day pass for seniors...
AND, I'll be following 2nd round D3 on my phone as long as the batteries hold out!!!!

Really do miss D3

I feel ya. Working at a D2 school I've really got a handle on the D2 world out West. There are D3 schools out here in the state, but the closest ones are Walla Walla (and that's not a football school) or Tacoma, and in the winter going west could be dicey, plus the Mrs. wants to spend money on things like musicals and Comic Con. (OK, I do too...) She's not enough of a sports fan to just go to a game - she has to have a compelling rooting interest (and even then, she's quite superstitious and loud) - or she's helping out as my stats caller.

I also lived near Boca Raton for 1 1/2 years, I did get to see one D3 football game (well, half of one), when Birmingham Southern played at Ave Maria.

Thanks to the interwebs, we're not on outposts, really!

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 09, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
Score of 3/9/18

Maranatha Baptist 85  Kentucky Christian   78

Maranatha wins in Consolation bracket!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 11, 2018, 09:14:38 AM
Score of 3/10/18

Dallas Christian  76   Maranatha Baptist  68                       Maranatha Finishes 1-2 in NCCAA Championship weekend.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 11, 2018, 09:15:46 AM
FINAL 2017-18

D3 versus:

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          27      
NCAA-D2                   1          13      
NAIA-D1                     3          8      
NAIA-D2                     43          35      
NCCAA-D1                   8          2      
NCCAA-D2                   48          5      
USCAA                        85          34      
Other                           29          2      


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on March 11, 2018, 09:36:34 AM
^^^ Thanks. Do you still have these records from the previous seasons that you've tracked this? Just curious how this season compares.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 11, 2018, 11:45:34 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on March 11, 2018, 09:36:34 AM
^^^ Thanks. Do you still have these records from the previous seasons that you've tracked this? Just curious how this season compares.

just go back on these pages....

I do know that we have played pretty even with NAIA-D2 in the past, even sub .500.... so this year is a positive... though there may be specific reasons for it.. ie, fewer games overall vs non NCAA D3...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on March 11, 2018, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 23, 2017, 10:55:37 AM
D3 versus      
           W   L
NCAA-D1   0   45
NCAA-D2   6   24
NAIA-D1   9   13
NAIA-D2   37   50
NCCAA-D1   12   5
NCCAA-D2   46   3
USCAA   106   32
Other   30   2

I thought maybe you had a spreadsheet with separate tabs for each season. Above is your last entry from 2016-17. Looks like you weren't doing a tally like this for 2015-16, although you posted individual game scores that season. Thanks.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 10, 2018, 09:51:45 AM
A new season BEGINS   2018-19

Nov. 8..... and what an ugly start vs the USCAA

St. Joseph's (Vt.) (USCAA) 80, NVU-Johnson 74            
Vermont Tech (USCAA) 91, NVU-Lyndon 71            
Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 87, Widener 79            
Penn St.-Hazleton (USCAA) 73, King's 60            
Calvin  76,  Grace Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  62            
Blackburn  123,  St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D1)  118            
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 10, 2018, 10:29:21 AM
Nov. 9, 2018

Lycoming  99,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  86
Vermont Tech (USCAA) 83, NVU-Johnson 69
NVU-Lyndon  110,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  81
Rowan  121,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  82
Thomas  100,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  75
Princeton (NCAA-D1) 85, Desales 51
Pacific  127,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  115
Chatham  77,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  62
St. Vincent  97,  Carlow  (USCAA)  70
MacMurray  80,  Central Christian  (NAIA-D2)  65
North Central (Minn.)  76,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  65
Kentucky Christian (NAIA-D2) 107, Berea 99
Brevard  81,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  73

Quite a bit better than yesterday!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: OxyBob on November 10, 2018, 11:49:14 PM
Nov. 10

Occidental 89 Westmont (NAIA I) 79 Final

OxyBob
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 11, 2018, 06:55:41 AM
Games of Oct 10

New Rochelle  85,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  78
Maine-Presque Isle  87,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  77
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 93, Gustavus Adolphus 68
Multnomah (NAIA-D2) 147, Pacific 124
Edinboro (NCAA-D2) 81, Thiel 63
Sarah Lawrence  90,  Pratt  (USCAA)  72
Fontbonne  97,  St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D1)  74
USC Upstate (NCAA-D1) 86, Brevard 43
North Carolina Wesleyan  78,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  67
Pfeiffer  113,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  73


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 11, 2018, 06:56:47 AM
Quote from: OxyBob on November 10, 2018, 11:49:14 PM
Nov. 10

Occidental 89 Westmont (NAIA I) 79 Final

OxyBob

Note... exhibition game... but thanks Oxy....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 12, 2018, 05:57:22 AM
Games of Nov. 11, 2018               Note D3hoops.com posts early season exhibition scores intermingled with regular season games... scores here eliminate exhibition game scores as they do not effect the records of D3 schools....


Towson (NCAA-D1) 93, Wesley 66
Southern Vermont  91,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  62
Boston University (NCAA-D1) 94, Emerson 57
Linfield  105,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 13, 2018, 06:02:05 AM
Games of Nov 12


Frostburg State  68,  Cheyney  (NCAA-D2)  (other) 64
New Hampshire (NCAA-D1) 100, Mount St. Vincent 61


Thanks to Caz Bombers for informing that Cheyney has dropped out of NCAA D2 and is unaffiliated... their game will fall into my "other" designation...

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 13, 2018, 05:52:54 PM
Cheyney withdrew from the NCAA last spring. They dropped all their sports except basketball and volleyball. They are now unaffiliated with any national organization or conference.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 13, 2018, 06:02:38 PM
And Frostburg will be headed to D2 next year I believe.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 13, 2018, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on November 13, 2018, 05:52:54 PM
Cheyney withdrew from the NCAA last spring. They dropped all their sports except basketball and volleyball. They are now unaffiliated with any national organization or conference.

sad to hear... thanks Caz
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 13, 2018, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 13, 2018, 06:02:38 PM
And Frostburg will be headed to D2 next year I believe.

That is their hope ... they haven't even formally applied (or had that application formally received). That needs to happen (deadline is Feb. 1) before DII will even consider it. That then start the clock and the decision from DII won't happen until July.

So ... they are hoping.

That doesn't mention the discontent on campus and elsewhere about this decision.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 13, 2018, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 13, 2018, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on November 13, 2018, 05:52:54 PM
Cheyney withdrew from the NCAA last spring. They dropped all their sports except basketball and volleyball. They are now unaffiliated with any national organization or conference.

sad to hear... thanks Caz

Yeah ... they may not be around much longer.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 14, 2018, 06:24:30 AM
Games of 11/13/18


Huston-Tillotson (NAIA-D1) 111, Concordia (Texas) 97
Dallas Baptist (NCAA-D2) 95, Howard Payne 60
Purdue Fort Wayne (NCAA-D1) 111, Manchester 65
Wilkes  80,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  60
Maine-Farmington  96,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  64
SUNY-Canton  84,  Paul Smiths  (USCAA)  78
Penn St.-Schuylkill (USCAA) 71, Rutgers-Camden 66
Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2) 75, Lewis and Clark 65
Clarion (NCAA-D2) 90, Thiel 80
Oglethorpe  79,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  53
MacMurray  71,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  68
Wagner (NCAA-D1) 90, Cortland 58
Berea  89,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 15, 2018, 05:05:03 AM
Games of 11/14/18

Marywood  91,  Penn State Lehigh Valley  (USCAA)  65
Robert Morris (Pgh.) (NCAA-D1) 104, Mount Aloysius 57
Haverford  73,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  66
Shippensburg (NCAA-D2) 101, Wilson 74
Alabama State (NCAA-D1) 86, Birmingham-Southern 44
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 16, 2018, 05:19:43 AM
Games of 11/15/18

Grinnell  164,  Emmaus  (NCCAA-D2)  107
Corban (NAIA-D2) 90, Lewis and Clark 75
Francis Marion (NCAA-D2) 110, Methodist 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2018, 05:07:34 AM
Games of 11/16/18

Bryant and Stratton Buffalo (USCAA) 84, Alfred State 73
Alfred  90,  Bryant and Stratton Rochester  (USCAA)  70
Marian (Ind.) (NAIA-D2) 105, Fontbonne 57
Augsburg  87,  Ottawa (Az.)  (NAIA-D1)  69
Redlands  76,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  58
Sewanee  91,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  78
Hanover  104,  Akron-Wayne  (Other)  67
Thomas More  91,  Kent St.-Tuscarawas  (uscaa)  42
Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 89, Cornell 68
Belhaven  92,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  73
Pfeiffer  135,  Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  127
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 18, 2018, 05:47:37 AM
Games of 11/17/18

Alfred State  69,  Bryant and Stratton Rochester  (USCAA)  53
Alfred  80,  Bryant and Stratton Buffalo  (USCAA)  73
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 76, Curry 67
Mass-Boston  99,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  72
Fontbonne  108,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  39
Berry  70,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  65
Villa Maria (uscaa) 88, SUNY-Delhi 84
Hanover  85,  Kent St.-Tuscarawas  (uscaa)  47
Thomas More  85,  Akron-Wayne  (Other)  53
Wartburg  71,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  54
St. Joseph (Conn.)  99,  Green Mountain  (NAIA-D2)  78
Concordia-Moorhead  79,  Oak Hills Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  60
SUNY-Cobleskill  88,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  45
Pomona-Pitzer  92,  Biola  (NAIA-D1)  67
Pfeiffer  141,  Carolina Christian  (Other)  110
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 18, 2018, 09:50:25 AM
Pfeiffer wins a couple of high scoring games the past two days. Do they play The System?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 18, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 18, 2018, 09:50:25 AM
Pfeiffer wins a couple of high scoring games the past two days. Do they play The System?

No, they just run.  It's getting a lot tougher to distinguish between "The System" and other pace and space philosophies these days - partly because Dave Arsenault, Jr. is incorporating a lot of NBA principles at Grinnell.  Whitman and Grinnell don't look that different, at least in what they're trying to do right now.  Maybe some of that is due to Vinny Curta's skill set, but I think the numbers are just winning out.  Grinnell recognizes the value of an open layup and other teams are recognizing that an open three is better than a contested two.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 19, 2018, 06:19:13 PM
Games of 11/18

SUNY-Delhi  76,  Bryant and Stratton Syracuse  (USCAA)  63
Minnesota Crookston (NCAA-D2) 94, Concordia-Moorhead 65
Middlebury  99,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  65


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2018, 07:01:01 AM
Games of 11/19/18


Florida college (USCAA) 98, Franklin 87
St. Vincent  79,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  55
Indiana (Pa.) (NCAA-D2) 106, Westminster (Pa.) 77
Birmingham-Southern  102,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  70
Occidental  99,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  72
Berea  104,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  95
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 21, 2018, 12:34:12 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 20, 2018, 07:01:01 AM
Games of 11/19/18
Florida college (USCAA) 98, Franklin 87
Florida College is now in an NAIA conference (Southern States Athletic Conference). Not sure if double affiliation or not.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2018, 11:44:42 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 21, 2018, 12:34:12 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 20, 2018, 07:01:01 AM
Games of 11/19/18
Florida college (USCAA) 98, Franklin 87
Florida College is now in an NAIA conference (Southern States Athletic Conference). Not sure if double affiliation or not.

Thanks....They are still listed USCAA too...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2018, 09:26:32 AM
Games of 11/20/18

Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 89, Bryn Athyn 71
Southeastern (Fla.) (NAIA-D2) 95, Franklin 83
Wilkes  87,  Penn St.-Wilkes Barre  (USCAA)  81
Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D1) 94, Illinois College 90
Wabash  119,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  33
Pacific Lutheran  96,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  79
Berry  100,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  72
Pomona-Pitzer  68,  Life Pacific  (NCCAA-D1)  59
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 86, Minnesota-Morris 64
Southwest Minnesota (NCAA-D2) 92, Northland 61
Brevard  74,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2018, 09:27:40 AM
Games of 11/21/18

Texas Permian Basin (NCAA-D2) 103, Sul Ross State 69
Brown (NCAA-D1) 96, Salve Regina 64
Youngstown state (NCAA-D1) 104, Westminster (Pa.) 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
Games of 11/23

Calvin 70,  Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 62
Hope 78, Aquinas (NAIA-D2) 63
Lawrence Tech (NAIA-D2) 84, Kalamazoo 74
Centre 96, Cincinnati Christian (NAIA-D2) 79
Wartburg 72, Doane (NAIA-D2) 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 25, 2018, 11:04:43 AM
Games of 11/24

Calvin  85,  Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  63
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 70, Hope 58
University of Dallas  86,  Mississippi Women  (USCAA)  83
St. Francis (Ill.) (NAIA-D2) 107, Eureka 77
Dordt (NAIA-D2) 94, Wartburg 85
St. Thomas (Tx.) (NAIA-D1) 92, Concordia (Texas) 73
Huntington (Ind.) (NAIA-D2) 103, Manchester 84
Lewis-Clark State (NAIA-D1) 83, Lewis and Clark 72
Arkansas-Monticello (NCAA-D2) 80, Centenary (La.) 51
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2018, 09:35:56 AM
Games of 11/25

Howard Payne  66,  Mississippi Women  (USCAA)  64
Cardinal Stritch (NAIA-D2) 79, Eureka 68
Central Connecticut (NCAA-D1) 88, Pine Manor 59
Grinnell  177,  Wright State Lake  (USCAA)  129
Walsh (NCAA-D2) 102, Thiel 58
Minnesota-Morris  75,  Valley City State  (NAIA-D2)  65

D3 record through 11/25

D3 Vs:                     W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          10      
NCAA-D2                   1          11      
NAIA-D1                    4          3      
NAIA-D2                   12          15      
NCCAA-D1                 2          1      
NCCAA-D2                18          0      
USCAA                     25          9      
Other                        4          0      

Remember... exhibition games not included

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2018, 07:13:37 AM
Games of 11/26

SUNY-Canton 95, St. Joseph's (Vt.) (USCAA) 73
St. Elizabeth 96, King's College NY (USCAA) 72
CU-Colorado Springs (NCAA-D2) 106, Colorado College 64
Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 73, Martin Luther 41
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2018, 08:53:03 AM
Games of 11/27

Abilene Christian (NCAA-D1) 90, Howard Payne 53
Texas-Tyler  96,  Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  62
Lawrence  81,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  79
Coast Guard  91,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  70
Hampden-Sydney  74,  Regent  (NCCAA-D1)  40
Birmingham-Southern  91,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  82
Midway (NAIA-D2) 81, Berea 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 29, 2018, 10:24:28 AM
Games of 11/28

Eastern  91,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  57
Green Mountain (NAIA-D2) 88, NVU-Johnson 50
The Apprentice School (USCAA) 76, Randolph 74
Occidental  91,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  59
Brevard  73,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 30, 2018, 07:25:35 AM
Games of 11/29/18

Chapman 80, La Sierra (NAIA-D2) 45
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2018, 10:26:48 AM
Games of 11/30/18   D3 goes 8-0 !!!!!

Redlands  80,  St. Katherine  (Other)  77
North Carolina Wesleyan  87,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  72
Valley Forge  81,  Christendom  (USCAA)  56
Southern Virginia  99,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  75
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  96,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  51
Crown  99,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  52
Martin Luther  81,  Oak Hills Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  58
Pfeiffer  134,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  127
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2018, 08:27:04 AM
Games of 12/1/18

Redlands  78,  Pacific Union  (NAIA-D2)  64
North Carolina Wesleyan  86,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  53
Norwich  98,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  78
The Apprentice School (USCAA) 80, Southern Virginia 68
Evansville (NCAA-D1) 65, Albion 49             (Albion holds Shea Feehan Evansville  (ex-D3 Eureka College) to 3 points.... had been averaging 14)
Oglethorpe  111,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  46
Occidental  98,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  66
Crown  121,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  85
North Central (Minn.)  75,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  56
Piedmont International (NCCAA-D2) 115, Pfeiffer 102
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2018, 09:46:45 AM
Games of 12/2/18

Southern Vermont  109,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  65
SUNY-Delhi  90,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  58
New Rochelle  109,  Culinary Institute  (Other)  36
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 94, Minnesota-Morris 64


Record of D3 vs___  Through Games of 12/2/18
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          12      
NCAA-D2                   1          12      
NAIA-D1                     4          3      
NAIA-D2                     15          19      
NCCAA-D1                   2          1      
NCCAA-D2                   29          1      
USCAA                        36          11      
Other                           6          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 04, 2018, 08:59:53 AM
Games of 12/3/18

Penn St.-Schuylkill (USCAA) 85, Valley Forge 75
St. Francis (N.Y.) (NCAA-D1) 104, St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2018, 10:21:09 AM
Games of 12/4/18

Pine Manor  87,  Green Mountain  (NAIA-D2)  77
New Rochelle  101,  Pratt  (USCAA)  56
Hope  89,  Grace Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  78
Northwest (Wash.) (NAIA-D2) 86, Puget Sound 76
Missouri Baptist (NAIA-D1) 85, Webster 64
Johnson (Tn.) (NCCAA-D2) 99, Berea 75
UW-Platteville  95,  Cardinal Stritch  (NAIA-D2)  60
UW-Stout  96,  Silver Lake  (USCAA)  94
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 06, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Games of 12/5/18


Trine  78,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  67
Pacific Lutheran  91,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  69
St. Thomas (Tx.) (NAIA-D1) 108, University of Dallas 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2018, 08:18:05 AM
Games of 12/6/18:

SUNY Cobleskill 60, Green Mountain (NAIA-D2) 55
Corbin (NAIA-D2) 76, Willamette 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 08, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Games of 12/7/18


Longwood (NCAA-D1) 68, Frostburg State 65
Willamette  87,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  54
Sewanee  103,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
Games of 12/8/18

Simpson  104,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  58
Albertus Magnus  100,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  81
Maranatha Baptist  84,  Emmaus  (NCCAA-D2)  69
Goucher  96,  Christendom  (USCAA)  65
Bard  104,  Pratt  (USCAA)  50
Maine-Presque Isle  93,  Unity  (USCAA)  69
Cazenovia  81,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  58
Linfield  121,  New Hope Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  67
Northwest (Wash.) (NAIA-D2) 107, Pacific Lutheran 87
Willamette  NA,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  NA
Occidental  96,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  61
Maryville (Tenn.)  110,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  74
Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 74, UW-River Falls 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2018, 05:52:34 AM
Games of 12/9

Alfred Stste 88, SUNY-ESF (USCAA) 67
Wagner (NCAA-D1) 105, New Rochelle 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 12, 2018, 03:16:17 AM
Just a reminder, St Thomas (Houston TX) is exploratory this year, but has been accepted into the SCAC.

One must commend the commissioner of the SCAC for the hard work in reviving a conference that was ripped apart by the departure of the SAA schools.

He got TLU and Schreiner to move from the ASC to the SCAC.
He added Centenary when it came down from D-1. (Centenary was with the ASC for 1 year, but everyone knew that they were going to join Southwestern and Trinity, fellow members for the Associated Colleges of the South, www.colleges.org)
Now he has added a travel partner for Colorado College in Johnson and Wales CO.
St Thomas will be the 10th program and fits very nicely, probably as a travel partner for Centenary.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2018, 08:31:59 AM
Games of 12/10, 12/11


Lewis and Clark  94,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  69

New Rochelle  114,  Five Towns College  (USCAA)  78
Sewanee  81,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  66
Austin  85,  Paul Quinn  (NAIA-D1)  82
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2018, 05:11:43 AM
Games of 12/12/18:

Manchester 85, Aquinas (NAIA-D2) 77
Maine-Presque Isle 80, Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 70
Lakeland 80, Silver Lake (USCAA) 77
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 77, Cal Miramar (other) 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2018, 05:17:55 AM
Games of 12/13/18

Central 95, Faith Baptist Bible (NCCAA-D2) 52
Rose-Hulman 93, Boyce (NCCAA-D2) 67
Cazenovia 115, Bryant and Stratton Syracuse (USCAA) 112
Pomona-Pitzer 96, Bethesda (NCCAA-D1) 70
Longwood (NCAA-D1) 81, Averett 57
North Alabama (NCAA-D1) 90, Huntington 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 14, 2018, 03:32:15 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 14, 2018, 05:17:55 AM
North Alabama (NCAA-D2) 90, Huntington 58

North Alabama moved to Division I this year
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2018, 06:19:02 AM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on December 14, 2018, 03:32:15 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 14, 2018, 05:17:55 AM
North Alabama (NCAA-D2) 90, Huntington 58

North Alabama moved to Division I this year

Thanks. Correction made.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2018, 06:26:46 AM
Games of 12/14/18

Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 66, Coe 63
Maine-Presque Isle 75, Maine-Machias (USCAA) 60
SUNY-Canton 76, Paul Smiths (USCAA) 61
Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2) 82, Puget Sound 76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 16, 2018, 12:36:54 PM
Games of 12/15/18

Eastern Mennonite  84,  the Apprentice School  (USCAA)  75
Mount St. Mary's (Md.) (NCAA-D1) 74, Wilson 59
New Rochelle  NA,  Bryant and Stratton (Albany)  (USCAA)  NA
Spring Arbor (NAIA-D2) 89, Kalamazoo 58
Centre  93,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  51
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  88,  Westmont  (NAIA-D1)  69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 16, 2018, 02:09:14 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 16, 2018, 12:36:54 PM
Games of 12/15/18

Eastern Mennonite  84,  the Apprentice School  (USCAA)  75
Mount St. Mary's (Md.) (NCAA-D1) 74, Wilson 59
New Rochelle  NA,  Bryant and Stratton (Albany)  (USCAA)  NA
Spring Arbor (NAIA-D2) 89, Kalamazoo 58
Centre  93,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  51
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  88,  Westmont  (NAIA-D1)  69
New Rochelle won 85-80 in OT
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2018, 10:21:31 AM
Games of 12/16/18


Bridgewater (Va.)  80,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  64
Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 73, NVU-Johnson 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 17, 2018, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 17, 2018, 10:21:31 AM
Games of 12/16/18


Bridgewater (Va.)  80,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  64
Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 73, NVU-Johnson 57

On our scoreboards, both the men's and women's games against UM-FK were listed as exhibitions.  I didn't double check, but you might want to for accuracy purposes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2018, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 17, 2018, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 17, 2018, 10:21:31 AM
Games of 12/16/18


Bridgewater (Va.)  80,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  64
Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 73, NVU-Johnson 57

On our scoreboards, both the men's and women's games against UM-FK were listed as exhibitions.  I didn't double check, but you might want to for accuracy purposes.

On the Johnson site, the score does not indicate exhibition, and the result is included in their record. I'm thinking real game based on that.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2018, 07:41:48 AM
Games of 12/17/18


Green Mountain (NAIA-D2) 62, SUNY-Delhi 52
Ferris State (NCAA-D2) 116, Olivet 83
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2018, 05:59:19 AM
Games of 12/18/18

John Brown (NAIA-D2) 76, Fontbonne 60
Johnson and Wales 64, Fisher (NAIA-D2) 62
Keizer (NAIA-D2) 75, Mitchell 71
Central Washington (NCAA-D2) 95, Puget Sound 80
Quincy (NCAA-D2) 83, MacMurray 50
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 19, 2018, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2018, 07:41:48 AM
Games of 12/17/18


Green Mountain (NAIA-D2) 62, SUNY-Delhi 52
Ferris State (NCAA-D2) 116, Olivet 83

Our old friend, Green Mountain.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 19, 2018, 01:12:30 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 19, 2018, 05:59:19 AM
Johnson and Wales 64, Fisher (NAIA-D2) 62

Given that the NAIA opponent is Boston-based Fisher College, it's obvious that the Johnson & Wales involved here is the Rhode Island campus. But keep in mind that the Colorado campus of Johnson & Wales is presently transitioning to D3 as a member of the SCAC -- so, for the sake of people who don't know where the non-D3 opponent is located, it would probably help to start referring to the D3 school involved as Johnson & Wales (RI) or Johnson & Wales (CO).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2018, 01:31:12 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 19, 2018, 01:12:30 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 19, 2018, 05:59:19 AM
Johnson and Wales 64, Fisher (NAIA-D2) 62

Given that the NAIA opponent is Boston-based Fisher College, it's obvious that the Johnson & Wales involved here is the Rhode Island campus. But keep in mind that the Colorado campus of Johnson & Wales is presently transitioning to D3 as a member of the SCAC -- so, for the sake of people who don't know where the non-D3 opponent is located, it would probably help to start referring to the D3 school involved as Johnson & Wales (RI) or Johnson & Wales (CO).

Agreed.... but.... I have a spreadsheet that I download scores to from the D3hoops scoreboard each morning. My spreadsheet and all the macros must match the D3hoops.com designation for a school in order to properly work. D3hoops.com still has the R.I. Campus as Johnson and Wales... Period... that's what I have to go with unless I manually go in and change things on my post.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 19, 2018, 02:06:40 PM
Ah ... well, carry on, then.  ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 20, 2018, 09:49:42 AM
Games of 12/19/18

Webber International (NAIA-D2) 85, Fontbonne 81
Lafayette (NCAA-D1) 93, Rosemont 56
Franklin  95,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  64
Mitchell  78,  Johnson & Wales (Fla.)  (NAIA-D2)  70


Greg.. notice Johnson & Wales (Fla.)       ;D ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 20, 2018, 11:01:33 AM
Last night, on the d3hoops.com front page, I saw the headline of the Mitchell gamer, which indicated the opponent that Mitchell beat ... and the first thing that I thought about was you and this board. ;)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 21, 2018, 05:41:39 AM
No games 12/20
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 22, 2018, 05:09:04 AM
Games of 12/21

Lamar (NCAA-D1) 121, Howard Payne 33
Lake Forest 92, Grace Christian (NCCAA-D2) 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 23, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
D3 records thru 12/25
D3 vs:
                                 W         L         
NCAA-D1                   0          19         
NCAA-D2                   1          16         
NAIA-D1                     6          6         
NAIA-D2                     23          27         
NCCAA-D1                   4          1         
NCCAA-D2                   44          2         
USCAA                        51          13         
Other                           9          0         
                        
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2018, 07:15:52 AM
Games of 12/28/18

Wittenberg  94,  Bryant and Stratton Rochester  (USCAA)  60               
Dubuque  84,  Clarke  (NAIA-D1)  78               


Note not including the Bluffton vs Ohio Mid-Western result, which has been shown (proven) to be a hoax on the D3 World....  Yes, hopefan is angry....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2018, 12:51:00 PM
Games of 12/29/18

Wabash  104,  Bryant and Stratton Rochester  (USCAA)  57
Belhaven  109,  Mississippi Women  (USCAA)  79
Abilene Christian (NCAA-D1) 88, McMurry 40
Texas-Dallas  91,  Southwestern Assemblies of God  (NAIA-D1)  80
Robert Morris (Pgh.) (NCAA-D1) 108, Hood 51
Findlay (NCAA-D2) 113, Olivet 65
Ashland (NCAA-D2) 87, Westminster (Pa.) 64
Cardinal Stritch (NAIA-D2) 80, UW-Stout 77

Once again, not including the Ohio MidWestern non game... where it appears Bluffton duped Grove City into thinking they were playing a real college...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 31, 2018, 04:47:18 AM
Games of 12/30

Olivet  69,  Saginaw Valley  (NCAA-D2)  63            (D3's 2nd win over D2 this year)  (Frostburg St ha beaten Cheney in November)
Hiram  97,  Kent St.-Tuscarawas  (uscaa)  66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 01, 2019, 10:49:05 AM
Olivet is the first. As I said when it happened, Cheyney is no longer in the NCAA at all.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2019, 01:05:50 PM
aaahhhh Caz... forgot all about your help with Cheyney in November... Thanks...  need to change the spreadsheet....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 02, 2019, 05:26:56 AM
Missed this 12/31 game

Kent State (NCAA-D1) 71, Oberlin 48         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 02, 2019, 05:28:37 AM
 Through games of 1/1/19
D3 vs:

                                W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          21      
NCAA-D2                   1          18      
NAIA-D1                     8          6      
NAIA-D2                     23          29      
NCCAA-D1                   4          1      
NCCAA-D2                   45          2      
USCAA                        52          13      
Other                           12          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 03, 2019, 07:43:05 AM
Games of 1/2/19

High Point (NCAA-D1) 101, Washington College 60         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: TheOsprey on January 03, 2019, 08:15:02 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 02, 2019, 05:26:56 AM
Missed this 12/31 game

Kent State (NCAA-D1) 71, Oberlin 48
I don't know if this game counts (exhibition) however,  Penn (NCAA-D1) 112 Stockton 63 at the Palestra around Thanksgiving.  Article claimed the Palestra has hosted more  NCAA games than any other arena in the country. 🤔
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 03, 2019, 08:25:29 AM
Quote from: TheOsprey on January 03, 2019, 08:15:02 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 02, 2019, 05:26:56 AM
Missed this 12/31 game

Kent State (NCAA-D1) 71, Oberlin 48
I don't know if this game counts (exhibition) however,  Penn (NCAA-D1) 112 Stockton 63 at the Palestra around Thanksgiving.  Article claimed the Palestra has hosted more  NCAA games than any other arena in the country. 🤔

Right, I don't post exhibition games as they don't go into the official records.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 03, 2019, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: TheOsprey on January 03, 2019, 08:15:02 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 02, 2019, 05:26:56 AM
Missed this 12/31 game

Kent State (NCAA-D1) 71, Oberlin 48
I don't know if this game counts (exhibition) however,  Penn (NCAA-D1) 112 Stockton 63 at the Palestra around Thanksgiving.  Article claimed the Palestra has hosted more  NCAA games than any other arena in the country. 🤔

Yeah, not sure when others might catch up, but it's a hundred years old and had at least five teams playing most of their home games there for 75 or so of those years.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 05, 2019, 03:35:05 AM
Games of 1/4/19

Cornell (N.Y.) (NCAA-D1) 76, Johnson and Wales 61      J&W (R.I.)
UC Santa Cruz  84,  Los Angeles Divinity  (Other)  79
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 05, 2019, 11:40:50 PM
Games of 1/5/19

Thomas More  100,  Miami-Hamilton  (Other)  63
Grove City  79,  Penn St.-DuBois  (USCAA)  65
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 07, 2019, 10:18:37 AM
Games of 1/6/19
Silver Lake (USCAA) 82, Finlandia 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 09, 2019, 04:27:39 AM
Games of 1/8/19

Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 76, Valley Forge 74
Great Lakes Christian (NCCAA-D2) 88, Maranatha Baptist 75
Yale (NCAA-D1) 88, Skidmore 59
Connecticut College  71,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 11, 2019, 04:39:03 AM
Game of 1/10/19

Lincoln Christian (NCCAA-D1) 89, Maranatha Baptist 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 12, 2019, 06:20:30 AM
Games of 1/11/19


SUNY-Delhi  76,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  54
UC Santa Cruz  95,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 13, 2019, 08:09:20 AM
Games of 1/12/19

Bryant and Stratton Rochester (USCAA) 68, Valley Forge 56
Silver Lake (USCAA) 77, Maranatha Baptist 75
New Rochelle  97,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  72
Willamette  126,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 15, 2019, 06:13:41 AM
Games of 1/14/19

Brown (NCAA-D1) 100, Johnson and Wales 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 16, 2019, 05:46:04 AM
Games of 1/15/19


New Rochelle  107,  Pratt  (USCAA)  70
University of Dallas  83,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 16, 2019, 12:50:26 PM
does Pratt count as Division III yet? They're somewhere in the re-classifying pipeline but I can't recall whether 2018-19 is just a "year 0/exploratory" year for them.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 16, 2019, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on January 16, 2019, 12:50:26 PM
does Pratt count as Division III yet? They're somewhere in the re-classifying pipeline but I can't recall whether 2018-19 is just a "year 0/exploratory" year for them.
Pratt is exploratory this year.
http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5831.msg1875935#msg1875935
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 17, 2019, 07:42:54 AM
Games of 1/16/19

Thomas More  105,  Campbellsville-Harrodsburg  (USCAA)  73
Green Mountain (NAIA-D2) 81, NVU-Lyndon 62
Maine-Farmington  104,  Maine-Augusta  (USCAA)  64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 18, 2019, 04:30:28 AM
Games of 1/17/19

Maranatha Baptist  70,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  52
UC Santa Cruz  101,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 19, 2019, 04:10:53 AM
Games of 1/18/19


Maranatha Baptist  80,  Associated Free Lutheran  (Other)  72
New Rochelle  92,  Davis  (uscaa)  85
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 20, 2019, 12:35:26 PM
Games of 1/19/19


Texas-Tyler  93,  Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  66   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 23, 2019, 05:02:29 AM
Games of 1/22/19

Maine Maritime  93,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  71
Newbury  81,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  74
Minnesota-Morris  111,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 24, 2019, 05:22:55 AM
Games of 1/23/19

SUNY-Delhi  75,  Green Mountain  (NAIA-D2)  52
UC Santa Cruz  73,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 24, 2019, 12:55:35 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 24, 2019, 05:22:55 AM
Games of 1/23/19

SUNY-Delhi  75,  Green Mountain  (NAIA-D2)  52
UC Santa Cruz  73,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  72

this former Division III member announced last night it is shutting down at the end of this semester. Pour one out for the Eagles.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 26, 2019, 02:26:39 AM
Games of 1/25/19


Concordia (Wis.)  86,  Concordia (Neb.)  (NAIA-D2)  70
Concordia (Mi.) (NAIA-D2) 94, Concordia-Chicago 75
Lawrence Tech (NAIA-D2) 100, Finlandia 77
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 28, 2019, 04:04:11 AM
Games of 1/26/19

Concordia (Wis.)  84,  Concordia (Mi.)  (NAIA-D2)  62
Concordia (Neb.) (NAIA-D2) 77, Concordia-Chicago 69
Rochester (Mich.) (USCAA) 87, Finlandia 38
Pine Manor  71,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  54
The Apprentice School (USCAA) 75, Valley Forge 64
Belhaven  75,  Mississippi Women  (USCAA)  71
Maranatha Baptist  70,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  65
New Rochelle  90,  King's College NY  (USCAA)  37
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 28, 2019, 04:15:56 AM
Games of 1/27/19

Siena Heights (NAIA-D2) 108, Finlandia 66
UC Santa Cruz  NA,  Los Angeles Divinity  (Other)  NA      let me know!!!!
 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 30, 2019, 10:01:07 AM
Games of 1/29/19


Piedmont  78,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 31, 2019, 04:50:41 PM
Games of 1/30/19

Green Mountain (NAIA-D2) 69, Norwich 57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 02, 2019, 05:47:14 AM
Games of 2/1/19

Maranatha Baptist  92,  Emmaus  (NCCAA-D2)  78
Pine Manor  86,  Bryant and Stratton Buffalo  (USCAA)  76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 03, 2019, 07:01:47 AM
Games of 2/2/19

Alfred State  93,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  65
Maranatha Baptist  90,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  54
Bryant and Stratton (Albany) (USCAA) 76, New Rochelle 73
University of Dallas  89,  Southwestern Adventist  (Other)  70
North Central (Minn.)  113,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 04, 2019, 05:32:14 AM
Games of 2/3/19

Alfred State  90,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  65
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 86, Maine-Presque Isle 55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 05, 2019, 07:07:38 AM
Games of 2/4/19


New Rochelle  100,  The New School  (Other)  46
Shawnee State (NAIA-D1) 72, Thomas More 63
UC Santa Cruz  60,  Pacific Union  (NAIA-D2)  57
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 06, 2019, 06:07:40 AM
Games of 2/5/19

Silver Lake (USCAA) 71, Maranatha Baptist 55
Berkeley College (NY) (USCAA) 116, New Rochelle 102
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 09, 2019, 09:05:26 AM
Games of 2/8/19

New Rochelle  112,  Five Towns College  (USCAA)  86
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 10, 2019, 06:06:23 AM
Games of 2/9/19

Gogebic CC (Other) 69, Finlandia 64                 YES Finlandia, even against Community College competition, stays winless!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 12, 2019, 08:21:51 AM
Game of 2/11/19

New Rochelle  82,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 13, 2019, 07:02:48 AM
game of 2/12/19

Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 78, Maine-Presque Isle 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 14, 2019, 07:06:49 AM
games of 2/13/19

Villa Maria (uscaa) 77, Alfred State 69
Silver Lake (USCAA) 83, Finlandia 77
New Rochelle  98,  Vaughn  (USCAA)  64
Chatham  82,  Penn St.-Greater Allegheny  (USCAA)  59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 15, 2019, 05:54:32 AM
Game of 2/14/19

Maranatha Baptist  91,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  79
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 16, 2019, 06:14:20 AM
game of 2/15/19

Alfred State  67,  Green Mountain  (NAIA-D2)  56
Pine Manor  NA,  Bryant and Stratton Rochester  (USCAA)  NA     anybody?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 17, 2019, 08:07:12 AM
Games of 2/16/19


Pine Manor  NA,  Bryant and Stratton Syracuse  (USCAA)  NA   DID Pine Manor play Bry-Stra either Friday or Saturday... no scores anywhere....
SUNY-Delhi  105,  St. Joseph's (Vt.)  (USCAA)  71
Maranatha Baptist  71,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  53
New Rochelle  94,  Davis  (uscaa)  60
Thomas More  81,  Wright State Lake  (USCAA)  58
Johnson (Tn.) (NCCAA-D2) 121, Pfeiffer 102
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 19, 2019, 05:49:17 AM
Games of 2/18/19

Emmaus (NCCAA-D2) 77, Eureka 72
Bay CC (Other) 95, Finlandia 92
Bryant and Stratton (Albany) (USCAA) 68, Valley Forge 66
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 23, 2019, 07:33:19 AM
Game of 2/22/19

Maranatha Baptist (IND) 81, Emmaus 51

Also just recently posted

Pine Manor  74,  Bryant and Stratton Rochester  (USCAA)  69      2/15/19
Pine Manor  95,  Bryant and Stratton Syracuse  (USCAA)  63        2/16/19


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 27, 2019, 01:26:46 PM
Duties of another nature call... I'll update and finalize in mid April.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on June 27, 2019, 11:15:52 PM
Final 2018-19  D3 vs non-D3   includes ALL games

                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          25      
NCAA-D2                   1          18      
NAIA-D1                     9          7      
NAIA-D2                     31          36      
NCCAA-D1                   6          2      
NCCAA-D2                   56          7      
USCAA                        68          26      
Other                           19          2      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: magicman on June 28, 2019, 04:14:25 AM
hopefan,

Good job as usual for this board and the conference vs out of conference board. Plus K.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on June 28, 2019, 05:34:59 AM
Quote from: magicman on June 28, 2019, 04:14:25 AM
hopefan,

Good job as usual for this board and the conference vs out of conference board. Plus K.

thanks magic... lost interest during NCAA tourney and our move south, thought I would finish up..... FINALLY!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 28, 2019, 02:50:23 PM
Quote from: hopefan on June 28, 2019, 05:34:59 AM
Quote from: magicman on June 28, 2019, 04:14:25 AM
hopefan,

Good job as usual for this board and the conference vs out of conference board. Plus K.

thanks magic... lost interest during NCAA tourney and our move south, thought I would finish up..... FINALLY!!!!
Fortunately, the Karma followed you in your move south.

+1!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 09, 2019, 09:24:27 AM
Well... the old hopefan will do it again this year... I will say I haven't paid attention to any non-D3 classifications... if any readers note an error of a school switching from USCAA to NAIA or something like that, post a note and I'll get it corrected...

Scores Nov 8

Lycoming  85,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  66
Vermont Tech (USCAA) 106, NVU-Lyndon 97
Sewanee  97,  Johnson (Tn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  85
King's  70,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  66
Wilkes  122,  Penn St. Scranton  (USCAA)  69
Alaska-Anchorage (NCAA-D2) 88, Coast Guard 78
Edinboro (NCAA-D2) 95, Thiel 72
Piedmont  81,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  76

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 10, 2019, 09:17:46 AM
Games of 11/9/19


St. Vincent  75,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  66
NVU-Johnson  95,  Vermont Tech  (USCAA)  87
Johnson (Tenn.) (NCCAA-D2) 95, Birmingham-Southern 92
Centenary (N.J.)  102,  Penn St.-Lehigh Val.  (USCAA)  55
Maine-Farmington  111,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  81
Penn St.-Dubois (USCAA) 77, Chatham 68
Oglethorpe  73,  Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  55
Hendrix  87,  Baptist Bible (Mo.)  (NCCAA-D2)  55
Pratt (USCAA) 62, Sarah Lawrence 59
Iowa Wesleyan  67,  Culver-Stockton  (NAIA-D1)  64
MacMurray  88,  Central Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  87
Bemidji State (NCAA-D2) 117, Northland 60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 10, 2019, 09:23:47 AM
^^^ A couple of SLIAC wins (Iowa Wes and Mac) over NAIA teams.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 10, 2019, 02:35:08 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 10, 2019, 09:23:47 AM
^^^ A couple of SLIAC wins (Iowa Wes and Mac) over NAIA teams.

Big comeback for MAC, too.  I watched the last two minutes waiting to put the score in and they really executed almost perfectly down the stretch.  Very slim margin for error and they pulled it off.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 10, 2019, 03:32:23 PM
Quick question on this list. Silver Lake has change their school name to Holy Family this year and are listed on the NAIA site as a division 2 Independent and have been for a number of years, but I have always seen them listed on this list as a USCAA representative. Now they are also a USCAA member, but if they should ever get a NAIA bid they are taking it over playing in the USCAA tournament. How is it decided that they are a USCAA and not a NAIA 2?

Same thing with Crowley's Ridge and Lincoln Christian.

www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/MultiTeam/Division.aspx?association=10&sg=MBB&sea=NAIMBB_2019&division=NAIMBB2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 10, 2019, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 10, 2019, 03:32:23 PM
Quick question on this list. Silver Lake has change their school name to Holy Family this year and are listed on the NAIA site as a division 2 Independent and have been for a number of years, but I have always seen them listed on this list as a USCAA representative. Now they are also a USCAA member, but if they should ever get a NAIA bid they are taking it over playing in the USCAA tournament. How is it decided that they are a USCAA and not a NAIA 2?

Same thing with Crowley's Ridge and Lincoln Christian.

www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/MultiTeam/Division.aspx?association=10&sg=MBB&sea=NAIMBB_2019&division=NAIMBB2

Baldini... nothing more than what list I was looking at when the school was entered into my spreadsheet... if a school fits better elsewhere, let me know and I'll change it.... thanks...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 12, 2019, 12:46:24 AM
Games of 11/11/19

University of Dallas  83,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  56            
Central Christian (NCCAA-D2) 93, Westminster (Mo.) 91            
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 12, 2019, 12:48:43 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 10, 2019, 09:23:47 AM
^^^ A couple of SLIAC wins (Iowa Wes and Mac) over NAIA teams.

Y-Jack... I Just noticed Central Christian in NCCAA-D2, not NAIA-D2
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 12, 2019, 09:17:03 AM
^^^ Oh well!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Inkblot on November 12, 2019, 07:52:18 PM
There are two Central Christians. Central Christian College of the Bible is in Missouri and the NCCAA; that's who MacMurray played. Central Christian College of Kansas is NAIA D1.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 13, 2019, 06:52:11 AM
Quote from: Inkblot on November 12, 2019, 07:52:18 PM
There are two Central Christians. Central Christian College of the Bible is in Missouri and the NCCAA; that's who MacMurray played. Central Christian College of Kansas is NAIA D1.

Thanks Inkblot... that explains my original error.... +1 to you.... I'd also note that Westminster also played the Missouri school...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 13, 2019, 06:57:54 AM
Games of 11/12/19

Fisher (NAIA-D2) 69, Pine Manor 61
Wagner (NCAA-D1) 97, Wesley 67
Rose-Hulman  98,  Oakland City  (NCAA-D2)  90
King's  109,  Penn St. Scranton  (USCAA)  99
Wilkes  96,  Penn St.-Hazleton  (USCAA)  58
Maine-Presque Isle  NA,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  NA         Postponed... weather
Chatham  92,  Penn St. Beaver  (USCAA)  73
St. Vincent  75,  Penn St.-Fayette  (USCAA)  62
Missouri Baptist (NAIA-D1) 80, Webster 70
Toccoa Falls (NCCAA-D2) 76, Brevard 73


There have been a handful of games on the D3 scoreboard with results of D3 teams vs non D teams that are not posted here because they are exhibition games... the scores really shouldn't post on D3... and they correctly do not roll up to team schedules and records on the D3hoops pages... I'm not sure Pat and guys find time to go back later and take them off the scoreboard or not....not a big deal but could be confusing....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 13, 2019, 12:20:28 PM
^^^ Looks like you missed one: Radford (NCAA D-1) 91, Bridgewater 40.

Update: Just went to the Bridgewater recap article. Headline refers to it as an exhibition.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 14, 2019, 07:33:22 AM
Games of 11/13/19

Only MacMurray comes through for D3

Silver Lake (USCAA) Holy Family (Wis.) (NAIA-D2) 77, Marian 71
Corban (NAIA-D2) 79, Lewis and Clark 67
St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA-D1) 71, Fontbonne 65
MacMurray  88,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1) (NAIA-D2 83
Campbellsville-Somerset (USCAA) 95, Berea 94
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 14, 2019, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 14, 2019, 07:33:22 AM
Games of 11/13/19

Only MacMurray comes through for D3

Silver Lake (USCAA) 77, Marian 71
Corban (NAIA-D2) 79, Lewis and Clark 67
St. Louis Pharmacy (NAIA-D1) 71, Fontbonne 65
MacMurray  88,  Lincoln Christian  (NCCAA-D1)  83
Campbellsville-Somerset (USCAA) 95, Berea 94

I see that this site still lists Silver Lake allover the place, but Silver Lake is now Holy Family College and they are a NAIA-2 school and have been for awhile. If you click on these links you will see the game you have listed.

https://holyfamilylakers.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/schedule

www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/Team/TeamSchedule.aspx?association=10&sg=MBB&sea=NAIMBB_2019&team=20844

This same thing applies to Lincoln Christian who has nine D 3 games on their schedule.

www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/Team/TeamSchedule.aspx?association=10&sg=MBB&sea=NAIMBB_2019&team=19211





Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 14, 2019, 10:26:09 AM
Baldini... thanks again... I will make corrections in prior posts and when I start to post overall YTD W/L records, the games will appear in proper categories....   Seriously, your input is appreciated... I strive for accuracy in the stuff I post, but don't have the time to doublecheck  non D3 affiliation changes.... 

Schedules from school web sites and the D3hoops schedules originally posted Silver Lake playing 6 games vs D3 opponents... all of those games were recently (not sure when) changed in D3hoops to Holy Family.. with the exception of the Marian game result, which at this minute, still reads Silver Lake... that's why I had a match in Silver Lake with the downloaded result and my posted schedule.  Two more games with Maranatha were originally posted as Holy Family likely because Maranatha was one of the last D3 schools to post their schedule. 

Holy Family remains listed as a member of both the USCAA and NAIA-D2 per those sites.... I will change over to NAIA D2
Lincoln Christian remains listed as a member of both the NCCAA and NAIA-D2 per those sites.... I will change over to NAIA D2

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 14, 2019, 10:39:23 AM
I attended a NAIA women's game last night and had a good conversation with the host AD. One piece of information I gathered that I was not aware of is that the NAIA is going to one division in all sports next year. Basketball is the last sport for them to do that, but will be across the board next season. Not relevant at this moment, but something to keep in mind for next season when compiling your data. Appreciate all your hard work you do here. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 14, 2019, 10:43:45 AM
My daughter went to William Jewel when it was NAIA and played four years of softball.. it opened up the world of NAIA to me, at least as far as Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma goes ... Highlight was her hitting a homerun at the big Oklahoma City complex!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 14, 2019, 01:39:57 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 14, 2019, 10:43:45 AM
My daughter went to William Jewel when it was NAIA and played four years of softball.. it opened up the world of NAIA to me, at least as far as Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma goes ... Highlight was her hitting a homerun at the big Oklahoma City complex!!!

That is awesome about your daughter, a memory for life for both of you I am sure. The kind of things that makes sports great at any and all levels.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 15, 2019, 10:57:40 AM
Games of 11/14/19

Valley Forge  113,  Penn St.-Lehigh Val.  (USCAA)  94               
Simpson  122,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  73               
Eastern  56,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  48               
Occidental  88,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D2  NCCAA-D1)  76               
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 16, 2019, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 14, 2019, 10:39:23 AM
I attended a NAIA women's game last night and had a good conversation with the host AD. One piece of information I gathered that I was not aware of is that the NAIA is going to one division in all sports next year. Basketball is the last sport for them to do that, but will be across the board next season. Not relevant at this moment, but something to keep in mind for next season when compiling your data. Appreciate all your hard work you do here.
Does that mean that there will be one set of guidleines for athletic scholarship distribution?

Just a general knowledge question...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2019, 06:53:00 AM
Noticed a couple of "hmmmm's"

Viterbo loses close to Whitewater and Platteville... then Platteville knocks off Wash U... seems things have improved at Viterbo
Maryville is beaten badly by Johnson (Tenn.).... Is Johnson much better or Maryville much worse than usual... or both?


Games of 11/15/19

Oak Hills Christian (NCCAA-D2) 104, Martin Luther 37
Martin Luther 104, Oak Hills Christian (NCCAA-D2) 37
Berry  102,  Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  67
Bob Jones (NCCAA-D2) 75, Oglethorpe 63
Great Lakes Christian (NCCAA-D2) 87, Olivet 80
Illinois College  81,  Lincoln Christian  (NAIA-D2)  71
Lebanon Valley  83,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  81
Southern Maine  66,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  61
Thomas  83,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  74
Thiel  84,  Penn State Shenango  (USCAA)  82
Eastern Oregon (NAIA-D2) 132, Pacific 125
St. Vincent  82,  Carlow  (USCAA)  70
Pensacola Christian (NCCAA-D2) 87, Brevard 72
UW-Platteville  70,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  67


Games of 11/16/19

Berry  81,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  68
Oglethorpe  71,  Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  57
Defiance  76,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  70
Central  102,  Lincoln Christian  (NAIA-D2)  67
FDU-Florham  76,  Penn St.-Schuylkill  (USCAA)  56
Johnson (Tenn.) (NCCAA-D2) 77, Maryville (Tenn.) 60
Southern Maine  84,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  62
Thomas  90,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  65
Western Connecticut  78,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  69
Westminster (Pa.)  84,  Penn State Shenango  (USCAA)  74
Corban (NAIA-D2) 114, Willamette 73
Malone (NCAA-D2) 90, Bethany 57
Occidental  82,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  64
Westmont (NAIA-D1) 84, Pomona-Pitzer 76
North Central (Minn.)  127,  Emmaus  (NCCAA-D2)  70
Berea  82,  Campbellsville-Harrodsburg  (USCAA)  71
UW-Whitewater  79,  Viterbo  (NAIA-D2)  73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 17, 2019, 09:24:10 PM
Games of 11/17/19

Piedmont  76,  Johnson (Tenn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  73
Linfield  78,  Northwest Christian  (NAIA-D2)  71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 19, 2019, 12:06:42 AM
Just a few notes of information.

On the 11/14 games you have listed West Coast Baptist as a NCCAA-2 but they are NCCAA-1. I have a link here to a list of NCCAA-1 schools, but if you use it to audit your list be aware that most of these schools are D-2, D-3 or NAIA that use the NCCAA as a fallback to post season play if their original post season plans come up short with the NCAA or NAIA.

https://thenccaa.org/sports/2012/6/6/MBB_0606121522.aspx

On the Martin Luther-Oak Hills Christian game from 11/15 you have the score reversed, Martin Luther won the game 104-37. Oak Hills Christian is a school I check on every year from time to time just because I am amazed they are still going. They are currently 0-9 and have played the whole season with 5 players. I watch a little of their first game against NAIA Northwestern (Iowa) and after the first 5 minutes I could watch no more, in fear of foul trouble I would guess they played no defense and it was a layup drill for Northwestern. Northwestern won the game 144-44. I watch a few minutes of the Martin Luther game and a Oak Hills Christian player picked up his 4th foul with about 9 minutes to play and I was mostly interested to see if they would need to play with four before the night was through, but the complete five lasted until the buzzer sounded.

You commented on Johnson (Tenn.), but they were pretty good last year. They made it to the NCCAA-2 Championship semi-finals last season before losing to eventual champion Grace Christian. They came back and won the 3rd place game against D-3 Maranatha Baptist 101-86. They already have wins against Birmingham Southern and your mentioned Maryville. They have played a good schedule the past 3 seasons and have been competitive with most of the D-3 and NAIA schools they have played.

Interesting you noted Viterbo and I thought they were going to be good last season, but it just never did happen for them. Sometimes it takes a little extra time for the talent to come together as a team I guess.       
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 19, 2019, 12:17:21 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 16, 2019, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 14, 2019, 10:39:23 AM
I attended a NAIA women's game last night and had a good conversation with the host AD. One piece of information I gathered that I was not aware of is that the NAIA is going to one division in all sports next year. Basketball is the last sport for them to do that, but will be across the board next season. Not relevant at this moment, but something to keep in mind for next season when compiling your data. Appreciate all your hard work you do here.
Does that mean that there will be one set of guidleines for athletic scholarship distribution?

Just a general knowledge question...

That is what I took from the conversion. He felt they would probably struggle for a few year because of the players already in the pipeline for the NAIA-1 schools, but in time the playing field would be level. It will be interesting to me to see how balanced the basketball playoffs will be next season or do the division 1's just dominate the tournament.     
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 19, 2019, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 19, 2019, 12:06:42 AM
Just a few notes of information.

On the 11/14 games you have listed West Coast Baptist as a NCCAA-2 but they are NCCAA-1. I have a link here to a list of NCCAA-1 schools, but if you use it to audit your list be aware that most of these schools are D-2, D-3 or NAIA that use the NCCAA as a fallback to post season play if their original post season plans come up short with the NCAA or NAIA.

https://thenccaa.org/sports/2012/6/6/MBB_0606121522.aspx

On the Martin Luther-Oak Hills Christian game from 11/15 you have the score reversed, Martin Luther won the game 104-37. Oak Hills Christian is a school I check on every year from time to time just because I am amazed they are still going. They are currently 0-9 and have played the whole season with 5 players. I watch a little of their first game against NAIA Northwestern (Iowa) and after the first 5 minutes I could watch no more, in fear of foul trouble I would guess they played no defense and it was a layup drill for Northwestern. Northwestern won the game 144-44. I watch a few minutes of the Martin Luther game and a Oak Hills Christian player picked up his 4th foul with about 9 minutes to play and I was mostly interested to see if they would need to play with four before the night was through, but the complete five lasted until the buzzer sounded.

You commented on Johnson (Tenn.), but they were pretty good last year. They made it to the NCCAA-2 Championship semi-finals last season before losing to eventual champion Grace Christian. They came back and won the 3rd place game against D-3 Maranatha Baptist 101-86. They already have wins against Birmingham Southern and your mentioned Maryville. They have played a good schedule the past 3 seasons and have been competitive with most of the D-3 and NAIA schools they have played.

Interesting you noted Viterbo and I thought they were going to be good last season, but it just never did happen for them. Sometimes it takes a little extra time for the talent to come together as a team I guess.     

Corrections to two games made... again, thanks very much for making me aware... tidbits that you throw out about the non-D3 teams are extremely interesting to me...
Poor Oak Hills Christian....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 19, 2019, 12:00:47 PM
Game of 11/18/19

Virginia Wesleyan  102,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2019, 08:26:29 AM
Games of 11/19/19

Johnson and Wales  70,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  67
Hanover  115,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  53
Goucher  76,  Christendom  (USCAA)  55
SUNY-Canton  88,  Paul Smiths  (USCAA)  74
Linfield  95,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  82
St. Thomas (Tx.)  99,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  71
University of Dallas  89,  Southwestern Adventist  (Other)  45
Manhattanville  92,  Pratt  (USCAA)  68
Principia  87,  Lincoln Christian  (NAIA-D2)  81
Albany (NCAA-D1) 78, SUNY Potsdam 52
Minnesota-Morris  90,  Presentation  (NAIA-D2)  68
Bob Jones (NCCAA-D2) 80, Brevard 78
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 20, 2019, 09:06:13 AM
'Other' is probably a good description for Southwestern Adventist with the handful of small associations out there and the list of your breakdown would get a little long and confusing to list them all, but Southwestern Adventist is affiliated with the ACCA. Guessing that you may well already knew that though. ;D Just a FYI link if you were interested.

https://www.accasports.org/members/
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2019, 08:01:02 AM
Games of 11/20/19

Valley Forge  118,  Bryant and Stratton Syracuse  (USCAA)  103         
Maine Maritime  81,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  58         
Maine-Presque Isle  NA 105,  Unity  (USCAA)  NA 50      
Chatham  82,  Carlow  (USCAA)  74         
Northland  127,  Oak Hills Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  46         
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 21, 2019, 08:18:38 AM
I hope you do not think I am a pain in the *ss, but I'm just trying to provide helpful information.

Maine-Presque Isle defeated Unity 105-50.

Carlow is a NAIA-2 school that is also a member of the USCAA. The USCAA also has two divisions, but listing them together is probably the right thing to do.

www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/Team/TeamSchedule.aspx?association=10&sg=MBB&sea=NAIMBB_2019&conference=NAIMBB2_KIAC&team=19212
   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 21, 2019, 09:09:35 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 21, 2019, 08:18:38 AM
I hope you do not think I am a pain in the *ss, but I'm just trying to provide helpful information.

Maine-Presque Isle defeated Unity 105-50.

Carlow is a NAIA-2 school that is also a member of the USCAA. The USCAA also has two divisions, but listing them together is probably the right thing to do.

www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/Team/TeamSchedule.aspx?association=10&sg=MBB&sea=NAIMBB_2019&conference=NAIMBB2_KIAC&team=19212


Absolutely not.. as I said, updates and corrections are appreciated....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 22, 2019, 09:15:14 AM
GAMES OF 11/21/19



Hartford (NCAA-D1) 78, Emerson 63
Occidental  88,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D1)  63
Biola (NAIA-D1) 66, Pomona-Pitzer 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2019, 06:59:21 AM
Games of 11/22/19

Vermont Tech (USCAA) 92, Norwich 62
Huntingdon  92,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  89
Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2) 77, Puget Sound 61
Defiance  82,  Akron-Wayne  (Other)  73
McDaniel  73,  Christendom  (USCAA)  38
Merrimack (NCAA-D2 NCAA-D1) 110, Lesley 16            YIKES!!!!!
Holy Family (Wis.) (NAIA-D2) 61, Martin Luther 59


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 23, 2019, 03:03:10 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2019, 06:59:21 AM
Games of 11/22/19

Vermont Tech (USCAA) 92, Norwich 62
Huntingdon  92,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  89
Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2) 77, Puget Sound 61
Defiance  82,  Akron-Wayne  (Other)  73
McDaniel  73,  Christendom  (USCAA)  38
Merrimack (NCAA-D2) 110, Lesley 16            YIKES!!!!!
Holy Family (Wis.) (NAIA-D2) 61, Martin Luther 59

Merrimack is D1 now
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 23, 2019, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on November 23, 2019, 03:03:10 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 23, 2019, 06:59:21 AM
Games of 11/22/19

Vermont Tech (USCAA) 92, Norwich 62
Huntingdon  92,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  89
Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2) 77, Puget Sound 61
Defiance  82,  Akron-Wayne  (Other)  73
McDaniel  73,  Christendom  (USCAA)  38
Merrimack (NCAA-D2) 110, Lesley 16            YIKES!!!!!
Holy Family (Wis.) (NAIA-D2) 61, Martin Luther 59

Merrimack is D1 now

Thanks Caz.... change made
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2019, 06:31:24 AM
Games of 11/23/19

Vermont Tech (USCAA) 83, NVU-Johnson 75
LaGrange  85,  Bob Jones  (NCCAA-D2)  72
North Park  75,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  46
Fontbonne  82,  Lincoln Christian  (NAIA-D2)  61
Pacific Lutheran  94,  Warner Pacific  (NAIA-D2)  86
Defiance  83,  Kent St.-Tuscarawas  (uscaa)  82
Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 75, Johnson and Wales 57
Grinnell  116,  Great Lakes Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  90
NVU-Lyndon  87,  Pratt  (USCAA)  83
Pomona-Pitzer  116,  cal Miramar  (Other)  78
North Central (Minn.)  145,  Emmaus  (NCCAA-D2)  53
Berea  89,  Johnson (Tenn.)  (NCCAA-D2)  81
Greensboro  89,  Regent  (NCCAA-D1)  69
Piedmont  85,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2019, 06:55:29 AM
Baldini or D3hoops staff

Pomona Pitzer beat Cal Miramar last night...  Cal Miramar has always been in my data base as "other" affiliation, because they did not appear on the normal non d3 groups (NAIA, NCAA D2, D1, USCAA, or NCCAA)... I was curious and looked them up... seems they are a member of the Pacific Coast Athletic Conference.

"The Pacific Coast Athletic Conference (PCAC) is an intercollegiate athletic conference governed by the California Community College Athletic Association (CCCAA).  We are comprised of nine community colleges including, Cuyamaca, Grossmont, Imperial Valley, MiraCosta, Miramar, Palomar, San Diego City, San Diego Mesa, and Southwestern, all of which offer a wide variety of athletic competition."

On the other hand, the School's site lists a Bachelor's Degree program in Business, and makes the comment "Our teams play under the rules and regulations of the United States Collegiate Athletic Association (USCAA) and the Pacific Coast Athletic Conference (PCAC)"
But again, a check of the USCAA site does not show Cal Miramar as a member....

Confusing to me... does Miramar have 4 year players playing in a Community College Conference, or am I getting two different schools/programs mixed up?   If it is a true Community College program, should D3 teams be counting games against them in their record?   Little mysteries in college hoops I love to see solved... any clarification by you detectives out there would be appreciated!!


Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 24, 2019, 08:45:03 AM
Games against two-year schools are not regarded as varsity games by D3, although they do count towards the allotment as scrimmages for eligibility and schedule purposes.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 24, 2019, 08:44:53 PM
Through 11/24/19

D3 vs :
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          4      
NCAA-D2                   1          5      
NAIA-D1                     1          4      
NAIA-D2                     13          7      
NCCAA-D1                   4          0      
NCCAA-D2                   21          8      
USCAA                        38          5      
Other                           3          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 26, 2019, 12:05:49 PM
Games of 11/25/19



Maine-Presque Isle  84,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  66
Holy Family (Wis.) (NAIA-D2) 68, Aurora 65
Penn St. Beaver (USCAA) 71, St. Vincent 61
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 27, 2019, 07:07:28 AM
Games of 11/26/19


Texas Permian Basin (NCAA-D2) 101, McMurry 88
Adrian  86,  Siena Heights  (NAIA-D2)  85
SUNY-Cobleskill  96,  Bryant and Stratton Syracuse  (USCAA)  73
Linfield  84,  Warner Pacific  (NAIA-D2)  73
Evergreen State (NAIA-D2) 76, Pacific Lutheran 71
Chatham  76,  Penn St.-Greater Allegheny  (USCAA)  70
Birmingham-Southern  130,  Pensacola Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  98
St. Thomas (Tx.)  116,  Dallas Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  70
Colorado College  NA,  Metro State  (NCAA-D2)  NA
Occidental  71,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  69
Blackburn  82,  St. Louis Pharmacy  (NAIA-D1)  75
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 85, Minnesota-Morris 67
Concordia-St. Paul (NCAA-D2) 82, Northland 61
Berea  86,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  56
High Point (NCAA-D1) 90, Greensboro 73
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 27, 2019, 09:26:04 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 24, 2019, 06:55:29 AM
Baldini or D3hoops staff

Pomona Pitzer beat Cal Miramar last night...  Cal Miramar has always been in my data base as "other" affiliation, because they did not appear on the normal non d3 groups (NAIA, NCAA D2, D1, USCAA, or NCCAA)... I was curious and looked them up... seems they are a member of the Pacific Coast Athletic Conference.

"The Pacific Coast Athletic Conference (PCAC) is an intercollegiate athletic conference governed by the California Community College Athletic Association (CCCAA).  We are comprised of nine community colleges including, Cuyamaca, Grossmont, Imperial Valley, MiraCosta, Miramar, Palomar, San Diego City, San Diego Mesa, and Southwestern, all of which offer a wide variety of athletic competition."

On the other hand, the School's site lists a Bachelor's Degree program in Business, and makes the comment "Our teams play under the rules and regulations of the United States Collegiate Athletic Association (USCAA) and the Pacific Coast Athletic Conference (PCAC)"
But again, a check of the USCAA site does not show Cal Miramar as a member....

Confusing to me... does Miramar have 4 year players playing in a Community College Conference, or am I getting two different schools/programs mixed up?   If it is a true Community College program, should D3 teams be counting games against them in their record?   Little mysteries in college hoops I love to see solved... any clarification by you detectives out there would be appreciated!!

Well that is truly a rogue program and 'other' is without a doubt the correct label for them, IMO. In each sport they play in some underground tournaments, but are not affiliated with anyone that I can find.

The Miramar that you note in the Pacific Coast Athletic Conference as a Community College is not the same school that played Pomona-Pitzer. Their roster is not the one in the box score of the game. Also that team is the Jets and the Cal Miramar that played Pomona-Pitzer were the Fighting Falcons. The Cal Miramar Fighting Falcons play a mix of D-2, D-3, JC's, NAIA and NCCAA schools and anyone else they can schedule without paying dues to any of them it appears. Interesting that the Fighting Falcons seem to have a good baseball program.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: jeffconn on November 28, 2019, 01:33:51 AM
The USCAA pretty much takes whoever shows an interest. It includes community colleges, such as Southern Maine CC and Central Maine CC, and schools that don't offer traditional associate's or bachelor's degrees, such as Williamson College of the Trades, and the Apprentice School.

FYI, apparently for decades, the Apprentice School's football program was counted as a D3 opponent for ranking purposes. The Builders were part of the D3 Atlantic Central Football Conference from 2001 to 2010 even though the Apprentice School were never a member of the NCAA.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2019, 07:16:21 AM
Here are the schools I currently have on my Master List, listed as "other",  that at some time in the last 10-15 years have played a D3 school... there may be a few more that have been randomly removed and replaced with an addition to the list who more recently played a D3 school

Might be interesting if anyone is familiar with a particular school to let us know some relevant facts... and of course if it is misplaced and should be NAIA, USCAA, or NCCAA, or even NCAA-D2, let me know and I'll correct

Akron-Wayne
Associated Free Lutheran
Barber Scotia
Barclay
Bay cc
Bay College
Bethany (Cal.)
Bryant and Stratton (Wisc.)
Cal Miramar
Carolina Christian
Central Maine CC
Champion Baptist
Cheyney
Concordia St. Louis
Cooper Union
Culinary Institute
Dayspring Bible
East-West
Fairhaven Baptist
Free Will Baptist
Gogebic CC
John Abbott
Landmark
Miami-Hamilton
Rhode Island Design
Northwest Indian College
Oglala Lakota
Ohio State Marion
Ohio University Eastern
Ohio University-Chillicothe
OSU Lima
OSU Mansfield
Rhema Bible
Selma
Shawnee Baptist
Southwestern Adventist
St. Katherine
St. Louis Christian
Thaddeus Stevens
The New School
Touro
Westcliff
Word of Life
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2019, 07:19:34 AM
Games of 11/27/19

Vermont (NCAA-D1) 93, Gallaudet 44
Lees-Mcrae (NCAA-D2) 89, Eastern Nazarene 68
Robert Morris (NCAA-D1) 102, Geneva 62
Youngstown state (NCAA-D1) 93, Westminster (Pa.) 67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 08:33:15 AM
Love the 'others' list hopefan, I might be one of the rare (maybe sad  :)) individuals that has seen a good number of those teams play at one time or another.

Central Maine CC, Culinary Institute of America and East-West are all currently listed as a members on the USCAA website. The problem with tracking this is that some of these schools come and go every few years from the USCAA. Not sure what the answer is for that.

Couple of teams on your list, Barclay and Southwestern Adventist (Southwestern Adventist is currently also listed as a USCAA member) are division 2 members of the NCCAA. NCCAA-2's.

This would require starting another grouping and the number of games played each year by them is probably not worth separating out, but Association Free Lutheran Bible College, Carolina Christian College, Champion Baptist who is now Champion Christian College, Rhema Bible College, St. Louis Christian College and I would add University of Los Angeles College of Divinity are all members of the ACCA. But 'others' is still probably the right designation for all of them in that association because in most seasons none of them play any D-3 schools.

Love the work you do hopefan, keep up the great job.   

*Just looking at the NCCAA website and see that Champion Christian College is a new NCCAA-2 member this year. Currently ranked 6th in their top 10 rankings this week and has a win over a NAIA school in Bacone.

I also see that the University of Saint Katherine is a NCCAA-1 member.   

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2019, 10:08:33 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 08:33:15 AM
Love the 'others' list hopefan, I might be one of the rare (maybe sad  :)) individuals that has seen a good number of those teams play at one time or another.


That is truly Incredible.. I wish I could sit across the table from you over a long meal... I would think you could enamor me with stories for a lengthy time..
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 11:40:13 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 28, 2019, 10:08:33 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 08:33:15 AM
Love the 'others' list hopefan, I might be one of the rare (maybe sad  :)) individuals that has seen a good number of those teams play at one time or another.


That is truly Incredible.. I wish I could sit across the table from you over a long meal... I would think you could enamor me with stories for a lengthy time..

Thanks hopefan, but my stories probably are not that interesting. Being older and living alone I tend to ramble a bit with my stories and peoples eyes tend to glaze over long before I am getting to my conclusion.  ;D

What is a little sad at times in when I see some of these schools closing their doors for good at places I watched games, but I am guessing there will be many more in the coming decade. I was very surprised to hear NAIA school Cincinnati Christian closing this semester. They were a team that I always made a point to go watch when they came to central Kentucky to play someone, they had a silky smooth 6'5 player that was just a joy to watch. I would look his name up if they still had a website, but that is no more. I am not the greatest with name recall these days. St. Catharine College (KY) was another school that was easy for me to get to and watch games that closed 2016.

The Transylvania girls have a tournament tomorrow and Saturday and I will get to take in the doubleheaders on both days. Transylvania plays Maryville (Tenn.) and Redlands plays Southern Virginia tomorrow. The winner and losers will play each other on Saturday.   

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family hopefan and a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone else also.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Inkblot on November 28, 2019, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 08:33:15 AMI also see that the University of Saint Katherine is a NCCAA-1 member.

As of this year, they're also NAIA-2.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 03:22:14 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on November 28, 2019, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 08:33:15 AMI also see that the University of Saint Katherine is a NCCAA-1 member.

As of this year, they're also NAIA-2.

Good catch Inkblot, I had not noticed their name added to the California Pacific Conference standings until now. An annual audit is about the only way to stay on top of the never ending changes made by schools I guess.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: jeffconn on November 28, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
Central Maine CC is USCAA in the Yankee Small Colleges Conference.
Bryant & Stratton (WI) is NJCAA Region 4.
Pretty sure that Carolina Christian is NCCAA D-2.
Thaddeus Steven is NJCAA Region 29.
Shawnee Baptist closed in 2014.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 06:24:06 PM
Quote from: jeffconn on November 28, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
Central Maine CC is USCAA in the Yankee Small Colleges Conference.
Bryant & Stratton (WI) is NJCAA Region 4.
Pretty sure that Carolina Christian is NCCAA D-2.
Thaddeus Steven is NJCAA Region 29.
Shawnee Baptist closed in 2014.

Carolina Christian is not listed as a member on their website.

https://thenccaa.org/sports/2012/6/6/MBB2_0606121659.aspx
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 28, 2019, 08:28:26 PM
Baldini, do you live in Lexington? I lived there from 1981-1990. Went to one game at Transy -- I think they were D2 at the time. Does that sound right?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 10:06:03 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 28, 2019, 08:28:26 PM
Baldini, do you live in Lexington? I lived there from 1981-1990. Went to one game at Transy -- I think they were D2 at the time. Does that sound right?

I do live in the Lexington area, moved here in 2007. I am no Transylvania historian by any stretch, but my guess would be that they were a NAIA school at that time like soo many current D-3 schools were in that timeframe. They played in the NAIA tournament in March of 2001 and joined the HCAC in the fall of 2001, my guess would be that is when they switched over to D-3.

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 28, 2019, 10:58:49 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 06:24:06 PM
Quote from: jeffconn on November 28, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
Central Maine CC is USCAA in the Yankee Small Colleges Conference.
Bryant & Stratton (WI) is NJCAA Region 4.
Pretty sure that Carolina Christian is NCCAA D-2.
Thaddeus Steven is NJCAA Region 29.
Shawnee Baptist closed in 2014.

Carolina Christian is not listed as a member on their website.



https://thenccaa.org/sports/2012/6/6/MBB2_0606121659.aspx

Checking the Carolina Christian site... their schedule includes prospective participation in the ACCA tourney in Joplin Mo at season's end...
Also included in their schedule are two games at Cal Miramar!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Inkblot on November 29, 2019, 01:03:35 AM
The ACCA only has 17 members listed on their site, many of which are also NCCAA.

Arlington Baptist (NCCAA)
Association Free Lutheran
Baptist Bible
Barclay (NCCAA)
Carolina Christian
Champion Christian (NCCAA)
Community Christian
Faith Baptist (NCCAA)
Kansas Christian (NCCAA)
Oak Hills Christian (NCCAA)
Ozark Christian (NCCAA)
Rhema Bible
St. Louis Christian
Southeastern Baptist (NCCAA)
Southwestern Adventist (NCCAA)
Trinity Bible (NCCAA)
Los Angeles Divinity
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on November 29, 2019, 08:43:09 AM
Just a note about the NCCAA and the ACCA, their post seasons are structured so that the NCCAA teams can play in both if they should so like to do so. The NCCAA's regionals are the week before the ACCA tournament (which only has a selection of teams to play in the tournament) and NCCAA's championship is the week after. Which the Arlington Baptist women's team has done the past 4 years, winning 4 straight double national championships. They have won the last 5 NCCAA-2 titles, but only the last 4 ACCA titles. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 29, 2019, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 10:06:03 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 28, 2019, 08:28:26 PM
Baldini, do you live in Lexington? I lived there from 1981-1990. Went to one game at Transy -- I think they were D2 at the time. Does that sound right?

I do live in the Lexington area, moved here in 2007. I am no Transylvania historian by any stretch, but my guess would be that they were a NAIA school at that time like soo many current D-3 schools were in that timeframe. They played in the NAIA tournament in March of 2001 and joined the HCAC in the fall of 2001, my guess would be that is when they switched over to D-3.

NAIA for Transy back when I lived there makes sense. I did not realize they were so new to D3.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on November 30, 2019, 10:22:05 AM
Games of 11/29/19

A tough night for the MIAA in Grand Rapids

Aquinas (NAIA-D2) 84, Calvin 60
Cornerstone (NAIA-D2) 78, Hope 74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 01, 2019, 07:00:35 AM
Games of 11/30/19

A big rebound for the MIAA in Grand Rapids

Calvin  71,  Cornerstone  (NAIA-D2)  68
Hope  79,  Aquinas  (NAIA-D2)  63
Hendrix  70,  Mississippi women  (uscaa)  66
Puget Sound  92,  Northwest (Wash.)  (NAIA-D2)  81
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 01, 2019, 11:13:06 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 29, 2019, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 28, 2019, 10:06:03 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 28, 2019, 08:28:26 PM
Baldini, do you live in Lexington? I lived there from 1981-1990. Went to one game at Transy -- I think they were D2 at the time. Does that sound right?

I do live in the Lexington area, moved here in 2007. I am no Transylvania historian by any stretch, but my guess would be that they were a NAIA school at that time like soo many current D-3 schools were in that timeframe. They played in the NAIA tournament in March of 2001 and joined the HCAC in the fall of 2001, my guess would be that is when they switched over to D-3.

NAIA for Transy back when I lived there makes sense. I did not realize they were so new to D3.

New, and yet not so new. Transylvania was a charter member of D3 back in the mid-'70s, and played in the first four D3 tourneys (although the Pioneers never got out of the first weekend). Somewhere around the turn of the '80s Transylvania reverted back to NAIA, presumably because D3 opponents were far and few in Kentucky -- the Bluegrass State has traditionally been NAIA territory, although that's been slowly changing over the years.

My guess is that when the HCAC expanded in the early '00s it seemed like a good move to Transy's braintrust go back to D3 via the HCAC because of the greater prestige with which D3 schools are regarded as compared to NAIA schools. Transy is a very old (1780) and respected school, and it makes sense that the people who run the school would want to keep affiliative company with the more academically elite schools of the Mid-South and Ohio Valley.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 02, 2019, 02:27:01 AM
Transylvania became a full D3 member in Fall of 2004.  They joined the HCAC in 2001 and believe they held dual NCAA/NAIA membership while transitioning.  Even participating in the 2003 NAIA tournament.  For basketball they played a mostly D3 schedule during those 3 transition years. 

I kind of wonder if Transy wasn't one of those early D3 schools that held onto their NAIA status throughout the 70's, 80's and 90's.  Sort of like how Neb. Wesleyan had to decide each year which tournament to participate in (or something like that).   I don't know their reasoning for going D3 but by the late 90's their NAIA Conference the KIAC was a smoldering pile of rubble as numerous schools defected to other leagues and divisions.  Transylvania may have had no choice but to go D3.

The HCAC added Defiance in 2000 and Transy in 2001 as replacements for Wabash who left for the NCAC and Wilmington who had left for the OAC.  I had forgotten Wilmington's short 3 year stint in the HCAC.  Wilmington a replacement for DePauw who had bolted for the SCAC.  Weird times then. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: y_jack_lok on December 02, 2019, 09:14:37 AM
^^^ sac and Sager, thanks for those history lessons.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 02, 2019, 11:00:34 AM
Games of  12/1/19

Johnson (Tenn.) (NCCAA-D2) 89, Oglethorpe 87      
Millsaps  69,  Mississippi women  (uscaa)  58      
Greensboro  95,  Warren Wilson  (USCAA)  80      
UW-Platteville  74,  Cardinal Stritch  (NAIA-D2)  67      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 03, 2019, 06:41:09 AM
No games on 12/2/19


Here's where D3 stands through games of 12/2   
D3 versus:
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          8      
NCAA-D2                   1          8      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     19          12      
NCCAA-D1                   5          0      
NCCAA-D2                   25          9      
USCAA                        44          6      
Other                           2          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 04, 2019, 09:29:41 AM
Games of 12/3/19

Cal Maritime (NAIA-D2) 76, UC Santa Cruz 64
Concordia (Texas)  104,  Arlington Baptist  (NCCAA-D2)  86
Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 80, CCNY 67
Berry  77,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  58
Centre  87,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  67
Metro State (NCAA-D2) 79, Colorado College 47
Mayville State (NAIA-D2) 81, Minnesota-Morris 75
Bob Jones (NCCAA-D2) 73, Brevard 66
N.C. Wesleyan  102,  Mid-Atlantic Christian  (USCAA)  60
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on December 04, 2019, 09:44:59 AM
It is going to be an interesting year in the NCCAA-2 tournament. Bob Jones, Johnson (Tenn.), Grace Christian and Randall all look like they have pretty good squads this year.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 04, 2019, 12:01:16 PM
I'll have to go to each of the sites to check the 4 out... Baldini you are incredible!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on December 04, 2019, 12:23:05 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 04, 2019, 12:01:16 PM
I'll have to go to each of the sites to check the 4 out... Baldini you are incredible!!!

Checking the numbers from last season, the NCCAA-2 only won 7 games all season against the D-3. I believe the Bob Jones win over Brevard last night is already their 10th this season. Add in several wins against NAIA schools and I believe I can go out on the climb and say that this might be their best season ever.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Inkblot on December 04, 2019, 06:44:07 PM
I live 15 minutes from Randall (formerly Hillsdale Free Will Baptist College), and didn't know until about 5 years ago that they even had sports. It's surreal to see them talked about on a national forum...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on December 04, 2019, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on December 04, 2019, 06:44:07 PM
I live 15 minutes from Randall (formerly Hillsdale Free Will Baptist College), and didn't know until about 5 years ago that they even had sports. It's surreal to see them talked about on a national forum...

If you have never been to a game of theirs I encourage it. You might get hooked.

They play NAIA school University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma on Saturday at Randall.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: sac on December 04, 2019, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: Baldini on December 04, 2019, 09:44:59 AM
It is going to be an interesting year in the NCCAA-2 tournament. Bob Jones, Johnson (Tenn.), Grace Christian and Randall all look like they have pretty good squads this year.

Great Lakes Christian out of Lansing, Michigan was the NCCAA-II runner-up last year, they beat defending champion Grace Christian tonight 90-78 in downtown Detroit at Little Caesars Arena.

GLC has played a brutal schedule for their level, vs NCCAA they're 2-0 now.  They're legit good. (for their level)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on December 04, 2019, 11:56:22 PM
Quote from: sac on December 04, 2019, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: Baldini on December 04, 2019, 09:44:59 AM
It is going to be an interesting year in the NCCAA-2 tournament. Bob Jones, Johnson (Tenn.), Grace Christian and Randall all look like they have pretty good squads this year.

Great Lakes Christian out of Lansing, Michigan was the NCCAA-II runner-up last year, they beat defending champion Grace Christian tonight 90-78 in downtown Detroit at Little Caesars Arena.

GLC has played a brutal schedule for their level, vs NCCAA they're 2-0 now.  They're legit good. (for their level)

You are correct and my bad for not including them with the other 4, but until tonight GLC hadn't been able to get over the Grace Christian hurdle that was just down the road from them.

Great Lakes Christian also has wins over D-3 Olivet and NAIA Concordia (Mich.).
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2019, 08:41:51 AM
Games of 12/4/19

Eastern  92,  Penn State Brandywine  (USCAA)  76
Maine-Farmington  113,  Maine-Machias  (USCAA)  71
Cazenovia  91,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  77
Lewis and Clark  84,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  69
Merchant Marine  76,  Pratt  (USCAA)  49
Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 68, UW-River Falls 62
Cardinal Stritch (NAIA-D2) 81, UW-Stout 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 05, 2019, 10:44:25 PM
No games on 12/5/19
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 07, 2019, 09:02:48 AM
Games of 12/6/19

Greensboro  85,  St. Andrews  (NAIA-D2)  84   
Medgar Evers  87,  Staten Island  (NCAA-D2)  83   
Pacific Lutheran  77,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  40   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 08, 2019, 09:36:16 AM
Games of 12/7/19    a very busy night

N.C. Wesleyan  72,  St. Andrews  (NAIA-D2)  64            
Norwich  88,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  64            
UC Santa Cruz  72,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D1)  52            
Valley Forge  86,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  61            
Maranatha Baptist  65,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  64            
Maine-Presque Isle  68,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  66            
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 74, Eastern Nazarene 72            
JWU-Denver  96,  Oglala Lakota  (Other)  72            
Chapman  84,  La Sierra  (NAIA-D2)  51            
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  56,  Cal Maritime  (NAIA-D2)  53            
Pomona-Pitzer  96,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  51            
Fayetteville State (NCAA-D2) 72, Methodist 68            
Pfeiffer  112,  Toccoa Falls  (NCCAA-D2)  99            
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 09, 2019, 07:49:23 AM
Games of 12/8/19


Dean  108,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  83
Bryant and Stratton Syracuse (USCAA) 117, Cazenovia 107
Linfield  84,  Portland Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  62

Through games of 12/8/19
D3 versus:      
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          8      
NCAA-D2                   2          11      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     23          17      
NCCAA-D1                   7          0      
NCCAA-D2                   33          10      
USCAA                        53          7      
Other                           3          0      
                     
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 10, 2019, 05:37:45 AM
Game of 12/9/19

Linfield  129,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
https://www.beaconsathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/2019-20/boxscores/20191210_uq01.xml?view=boxscore

Is there something I don't know about that would explain why this hasn't been mentioned?

UMass-Boston takes down Holy Cross on the road.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 10, 2019, 11:25:00 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
https://www.beaconsathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/2019-20/boxscores/20191210_uq01.xml?view=boxscore

Is there something I don't know about that would explain why this hasn't been mentioned?

UMass-Boston takes down Holy Cross on the road.
It's listed as an exhibition so not included in team records.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 10, 2019, 11:25:00 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
https://www.beaconsathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/2019-20/boxscores/20191210_uq01.xml?view=boxscore

Is there something I don't know about that would explain why this hasn't been mentioned?

UMass-Boston takes down Holy Cross on the road.
It's listed as an exhibition so not included in team records.

Thank you--I figured something was off.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:28:59 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 10, 2019, 11:25:00 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
https://www.beaconsathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/2019-20/boxscores/20191210_uq01.xml?view=boxscore

Is there something I don't know about that would explain why this hasn't been mentioned?

UMass-Boston takes down Holy Cross on the road.
It's listed as an exhibition so not included in team records.

Thank you--I figured something was off.

Although it appears to have counted as a loss on Holy Cross' schedule? Game recap alludes to them "dropping to 1-9". Isn't being counted as a win for UMB however. Something has to be wrong on HC's side then.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 10, 2019, 11:46:33 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:28:59 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on December 10, 2019, 11:25:00 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on December 10, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
https://www.beaconsathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/2019-20/boxscores/20191210_uq01.xml?view=boxscore

Is there something I don't know about that would explain why this hasn't been mentioned?

UMass-Boston takes down Holy Cross on the road.
It's listed as an exhibition so not included in team records.

Thank you--I figured something was off.

Although it appears to have counted as a loss on Holy Cross' schedule? Game recap alludes to them "dropping to 1-9". Isn't being counted as a win for UMB however. Something has to be wrong on HC's side then.

It's not uncommon for a game to be counted as 'real' by the D1 but exhibition by the D3.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 11, 2019, 08:16:47 AM
SpringSt7.... Ypsi is exactly right... There are a significant number of D3 games vs D1 teams each year that count as real games for D1, but are played as exhibitions for D3.....  there are also some actual countable games for D3 versus D1... exhibition vs real kind of depends on whether the D3 team is already at their limit of 25 scheduled games.

Thanks though for bringing up the Mass-Boston game.... it's always huge when a D3 team beats a D1, even in an exhibition game... I don't track the exhibition games... not sure if D3 has any other wins over D1 this year or not...

to the business at hand...
Games of 12/10/19

Lakeland  84,  Holy Family (Wis.)  (NAIA-D2)  78            
Lewis and Clark  122,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  64            
Johnson (Tenn.) (NCCAA-D2) 107, Sewanee 99            
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on December 11, 2019, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 11, 2019, 08:16:47 AM
SpringSt7.... Ypsi is exactly right... There are a significant number of D3 games vs D1 teams each year that count as real games for D1, but are played as exhibitions for D3.....  there are also some actual countable games for D3 versus D1... exhibition vs real kind of depends on whether the D3 team is already at their limit of 25 scheduled games.

Thanks though for bringing up the Mass-Boston game.... it's always huge when a D3 team beats a D1, even in an exhibition game... I don't track the exhibition games... not sure if D3 has any other wins over D1 this year or not...

to the business at hand...
Games of 12/10/19

Lakeland  84,  Holy Family (Wis.)  (NAIA-D2)  78            
Lewis and Clark  122,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  64            
Johnson (Tenn.) (NCCAA-D2) 107, Sewanee 99

Yes, the appellation shouldn't minimize the accomplishment!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on December 11, 2019, 11:39:57 AM
Working at a D2 school now, we play games that we count as exhibition (our women vs. Seattle U. for example) and then play games where a D3 school or NAIA school uses it as an exhibition (our men vs. Evergreen State).

Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: WUPHF on December 11, 2019, 12:08:38 PM
Quote from: ronk on December 11, 2019, 08:37:47 AM
Yes, the appellation shouldn't minimize the accomplishment!

No question!

Teams play those games to win until they are leading by some margin.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2019, 06:58:16 AM
Games of 12/11/19

Spring Arbor (NAIA-D2) 95, Kalamazoo 71
Puget Sound  72,  Evergreen State  (NAIA-D2)  66
Randolph  71,  The Apprentice School  (USCAA)  56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 12, 2019, 10:47:31 AM
Hmmmm, UMass Boston, after surprising the basketball world by beating D1 Holy Cross on Tuesday (yes, an exhibition for UMB), they come back and lose to Tufts by 22 on Wednesday...????

possible thoughts... vote for one

1)  UMass Boston player heard to say.."hey we just beat a D1 team, who needs to worry about a D3 team??"
2)   UMass Boston coach heard to say... "My kids put in everything they had against a D1 team.. they were dead on their feet tonight"
3)   UMass Boston coach heard to say... "Why did I ever schedule an important D3 game back to back with a game vs a game vs a D1 team?"
4)   UMass Boston player heard to say..."damn, can't believe we finished that whole keg celebrating the win last night.. where did the 2nd keg come from?"
5)   a Sportswriter writes.. "UMB loses to Tufts by 22?.. How bad must Holy Cross be?"

Hopefan says... the UMass Boston players will likely remember the win over Holy Cross as the pinnacle of their Basketball experience for the rest of their lives....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2019, 07:09:53 AM
Game of 12/12/19


Buena Vista  105,  Faith Baptist Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 14, 2019, 06:36:46 AM
Games of 12/13/19

Chapman  93,  West Coast Baptist  (NCCAA-D1)  80
Pomona-Pitzer  83,  Westcliff  (Other)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 15, 2019, 06:21:34 AM
Games of 12/14/19

Eastern Mennonite  90,  the Apprentice School  (USCAA)  80
Dallas Baptist (NCAA-D2) 103, Howard Payne 74
Eastern Oregon (NAIA-D2) 127, Pacific 90
Northwest Christian (NAIA-D2) 91, Pacific Lutheran 84
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 16, 2019, 06:38:36 AM
Games of 12/15/19

Bridgewater (Va.)  66,  the Apprentice School  (USCAA)  56
Sheperd (NCAA-D2) 101, Wilson 50
Thomas  81,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  76
IUP (NCAA-D2) 108, Bethany 41

Through games of 12/15/19
D3 versus:      
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          8      
NCAA-D2                   2          14      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     26          20      
NCCAA-D1                   8          0      
NCCAA-D2                   34          11      
USCAA                        56          7      
Other                           6          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2019, 05:18:10 AM
Games of 12/16/19

Occidental  94,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  62
Iowa Wesleyan  88,  Lincoln Christian  (NAIA-D2)  67
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2019, 07:29:37 AM
Games of 12/17/19

Belhaven  95,  Mississippi Women  (uscaa)  86
Franklin  116,  Boyce  (NCCAA-D2)  61
St. Thomas (Fla.) (NAIA-D2) 93, Mitchell 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 18, 2019, 11:58:00 PM
Games of 12/18/19

Lincoln Christian (NAIA-D2) 82, Monmouth 68   WHAT???


Florida National (USCAA) 81, Mitchell 72
Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 83, Fontbonne 71
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 19, 2019, 06:40:37 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2019, 11:58:00 PM
Games of 12/18/19

Lincoln Christian (NAIA-D2) 82, Monmouth 68   WHAT???


Florida National (USCAA) 81, Mitchell 72
Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 83, Fontbonne 71

Will Carius has not played for two games now, including this one.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 19, 2019, 07:06:21 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 19, 2019, 06:40:37 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 18, 2019, 11:58:00 PM
Games of 12/18/19

Lincoln Christian (NAIA-D2) 82, Monmouth 68   WHAT???


Florida National (USCAA) 81, Mitchell 72
Waldorf (NAIA-D2) 83, Fontbonne 71


Will Carius has not played for two games now, including this one.

Ryan does such a great job of knowing "tidbits" about teams that an avid fan like myself won't usually look up... it's very much appreciated....   in this case, Will Carius had averaged 27 ppg  and 12 rpg in Monmouth's first 6 games, all wins... he misses last 2 games , both losses... and Lincoln Christian is not good.. at all...wonder if and when he'll be back.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 20, 2019, 05:42:00 AM
Games of 12/19/19

Nope D3 couldn't compete with D1
Lafayette (NCAA-D1) 96, Widener 56


Johnson & Wales (Fla.) (NAIA-D2) 83, Mitchell 75
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 21, 2019, 04:47:48 AM
Game of 12/20/19


Pacific Lutheran  109,  Northwest Indian College  (Other)  37
Malone (NCAA-D2) 68, Waynesburg 39
Maryville (Mo.) (NCAA-D2) 70, Eureka 52
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 23, 2019, 06:02:48 AM
Game of 12/21/19
Concordia (Mi.) (NAIA-D2) 89, Kalamazoo 84

No games 12/22/19

Going into Christmas Break:

D3 versus:      
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          9      
NCAA-D2                   2          17      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     27          25      
NCCAA-D1                   8          0      
NCCAA-D2                   35          11      
USCAA                        57          8      
Other                           8          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 28, 2019, 06:15:58 AM
Game of 12/27/19

Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 103, Curry 98
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 29, 2019, 08:12:04 AM
Games of 12/28/19

St. Joseph (Conn.)  91,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  56
Wheaton (Mass.)  82,  Staten Island  (NCAA-D2)  62
West Coast Baptist (NCCAA-D1) 66, UC Santa Cruz 65
Chapman  88,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  74
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 30, 2019, 07:57:18 AM
Games of 12/29/19

Fisher (NAIA-D2) 83, Pine Manor 63
Central Connecticut (NCAA-D1) 89, Connecticut College 55

Through 12/29/19

D3 versus:      
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          10      
NCAA-D2                   3          18      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     28          26      
NCCAA-D1                   9          1      
NCCAA-D2                   35          11      
USCAA                        57          8      
Other                           8          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on December 31, 2019, 10:34:33 AM
Games of 12/30/19

Occidental  100,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  64
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 01, 2020, 07:57:48 AM
Games of 12/31/19

Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 78, Carleton 69
Lake Erie (NCAA-D2) 91, Thiel 55
Redlands 97, Bethesda (NCCAA-D1) 86
Walsh (NCAA-D2) 92, Carnegie Mellon 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 04, 2020, 06:57:34 AM
Game of 1/3/20

Gordon  95,  Fisher  (NAIA-D2)  86
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 05, 2020, 07:04:14 AM
Games of 1/4/2020

John Jay  81,  Staten Island  (NCAA-D2)  64
Houghton  83,  SUNY-ESF  (USCAA)  61
Vermont Tech (USCAA) 82, Skidmore 79
Calvin  100,  Grace Christian  (NCCAA-D2)  90
Minnesota-Morris  81,  Presentation  (NAIA-D2)  74
Viterbo (NAIA-D2) 85, North Central (Minn.) 72
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on January 05, 2020, 07:21:33 AM
Viterbo ends up 4-2 against D3 schools with wins against Edgewood, UW-River Falls, Carleton and North Central (Minn.). Loses were at UW-Platteville 70-67 and at UW-Whitewater 79-73. Interesting that they are only 2-6 against NAIA schools. 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 06, 2020, 05:52:00 AM
Through games of 1/5/20

D3 versus:      
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          10      
NCAA-D2                   4          20      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     30          28      
NCCAA-D1                   10          1      
NCCAA-D2                   36          11      
USCAA                        59          9      
Other                           9          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 07, 2020, 05:29:15 AM
Games of 1/6/20

York (N.Y.)  74,  Staten Island  (NCAA-D2)  59
Maine-Presque Isle  NA,  Unity  (USCAA)  NA   Cancelled I wonder why?  UMPI beat them by 57 in 1st meeting, Unity site shows full schedule remaining
St. Thomas (Tx.)  80,  Randall  (NCCAA-D2)  68
Midway (NAIA-D2) 73, Berea 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 08, 2020, 06:46:54 AM
Games of 1/7/20

Brown (NCAA-D1) 79, Johnson and Wales 53
Rivier  70,  Paul Smiths  (USCAA)  68
Maranatha Baptist  105,  Emmaus  (NCCAA-D2)  68
Pratt (USCAA) 71, Bard 61
Mississippi Women (uscaa) 70, Rhodes 62
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 09, 2020, 07:17:59 AM
Games of 1/8/20

Salisbury  66,  the Apprentice School  (USCAA)  61
Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 67, Hunter 59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 11, 2020, 11:28:43 AM
Game of 1/10/20

St. Joseph (Conn.)  105,  Pratt  (USCAA)  61    Coach Calhoun's 900th win!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 11, 2020, 01:42:08 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 11, 2020, 11:28:43 AM
Game of 1/10/20

St. Joseph (Conn.)  105,  Pratt  (USCAA)  61    Coach Calhoun's 900th win!!!

Is that before or after you take out the forfeited games?
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 11, 2020, 07:05:12 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 11, 2020, 01:42:08 PM
Quote from: hopefan on January 11, 2020, 11:28:43 AM
Game of 1/10/20

St. Joseph (Conn.)  105,  Pratt  (USCAA)  61    Coach Calhoun's 900th win!!!

Is that before or after you take out the forfeited games?

Good question... I'm quoting from the Tampa Bay Times, who surprisingly gave Coach Calhoun a lengthy paragraph... Far more coverage than local D2 schools Tampa or Eckerd have received all season;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 13, 2020, 10:26:44 AM
Games of 1/11/20

SUNY Delhi  87,  Maine-Fort Kent  (USCAA)  65      
Valley Forge  101,  Culinary Institute  (USCAA)  49      
Brooklyn  77,  Staten Island  (NCAA-D2)  60      
Grove City  91,  Penn St.-DuBois  (USCAA)  57   

D3 rarely gets a win vs D2.. maybe 1 or 2 upsets per year... but this year with Staten Island moving to D2, playing a complete CUNYAC schedule, and obviously being down from their normal top spot in the CUNYAC, D3 may approach double digit wins vs D2... it's obviously a one time thing...   
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 14, 2020, 12:04:32 PM
Games of 1/12/20

Holy Family (Wis.) (NAIA-D2) 86, Finlandia 74
Yale (NCAA-D1) 108, Johnson and Wales 58
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 15, 2020, 07:05:57 AM
Games of 1/14/20

Holy Family (Wis.) (NAIA-D2) 84, Maranatha Baptist 68
Maine-Farmington  105,  Me.-Augusta  (USCAA)  66
Fisher (NAIA-D2) 72, Connecticut College 60


OH NO, LOOK AT THE RECORDS THRU 1/14/20

D3 versus:      
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          12      
NCAA-D2                   6          21      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     30          32      This is close every year...D3 has dropped the last 4 games vs NAIA D2
NCCAA-D1                   10          1      
NCCAA-D2                   38          11      
USCAA                        66          11      
Other                           9          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 16, 2020, 09:08:17 AM
Games of 1/15/20

Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 69, Lehman 66
Carlow (USCAA) 70, Washington and Jefferson 69
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Inkblot on January 16, 2020, 12:59:56 PM
In addition to their USCAA membership, Carlow is NAIA-D2.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 16, 2020, 01:44:36 PM
Quote from: Inkblot on January 16, 2020, 12:59:56 PM
In addition to their USCAA membership, Carlow is NAIA-D2.

Well, if W&J had won, I might have ........ ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 17, 2020, 07:13:58 AM
Game od 1/16/20

Lincoln Christian (NAIA-D2) 93, Maranatha Baptist 63
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 18, 2020, 08:28:47 AM
Game of 1/17/20

Valley Forge  105,  Christendom  (USCAA)  80
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 19, 2020, 08:50:01 AM
Game of 1/18/20

UC Santa Cruz  95,  Westcliff  (Other)  93
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 20, 2020, 06:41:57 AM
Game of 1/19/20

UC Santa Cruz  74,  Bethesda  (NCCAA-D1)  64

2 wins this weekend for the Banana Slugs!!!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 21, 2020, 05:19:14 AM
Games of 1/20/20

St. Elizabeth  72,  Pratt  (USCAA)  52
Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 83, Maine Maritime 71
SUNY Delhi  86,  Albany Pharmacy  (USCAA)  68
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 22, 2020, 08:03:11 PM
Game of 1/21/20

Fredonia  62,  Penn State Shenango  (USCAA)  53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 23, 2020, 01:19:34 PM
Game of 1/22/20

Baruch  74,  Staten Island  (NCAA-D2)  55
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 24, 2020, 07:47:53 AM
Games of 1/23/20

UC Santa Cruz  68,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  65
Maranatha Baptist  82,  Moody Bible  (NCCAA-D2)  54
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 26, 2020, 06:54:34 AM
Games of 1/25/20

Concordia (Neb.) (NAIA-D2) 92, Concordia (Wis.) 55
Concordia (Mi.) (NAIA-D2) 67, Concordia-Chicago 66
Valley Forge  119,  King's College NY  (USCAA)  87
John Jay  66,  Staten Island  (NCAA-D2)  59
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 27, 2020, 06:21:30 AM
Games of 1/26/20

Fisher (NAIA-D2) 77, Maine-Presque Isle 74
Princeton (NCAA-D1) 87, Rutgers-Camden 41
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 29, 2020, 04:15:32 AM
Games of 1/28/20

CCNY  79,  Staten Island  (NCAA-D2)  70
Maranatha Baptist  90,  Emmaus  (NCCAA-D2)  60
Maine-Presque Isle  126,  Unity  (USCAA)  63
Minnesota-Morris  94,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  76
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 30, 2020, 10:28:59 AM
Games of 1/29/20

Finlandia played (and lost to) Bay CC.... I'm not including that game as I believe games against 2 year schools are not included by the NCAA in D3 teams records.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 30, 2020, 10:54:45 AM
That is correct.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on January 30, 2020, 11:22:37 AM
Agree with all of that, but what is odd is that Finlandia seems to count them as official games on their website. Since they stopped playing a round robin schedule with the UMAC ('16-'17 season) they have scheduled Bay CC and Gogebic CC and list them in their records and stats as counting games.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 30, 2020, 11:46:41 AM
Finlandia can do whatever it likes with its records and stats, but the NCAA will not recognize those games. They will count towards the 25-game ceiling for player participation in the regular season, but the results, stats, and any records set will not be counted by D3. And d3hoops.com won't recognize them as legit games, either.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on January 30, 2020, 12:26:10 PM
Finlandia was 0-21 last season according to their website and d3hoop.com's listing of schedule results with 3 of those games being against Bay CC and Gogebic CC. I went to NCAA's website and they list Finlandia at 0-18 last season with no record of those games being played, which is just confirming what we all thought was the case. It is also a given that the games are not used for SOS purposes or used for any other metrics, but if d3hoops.com is listing the results and showing Finlandia as 0-21, are they not than recognizing the games as official games? Not trying to be a pain here, but why does d3hoops.com list the games in the official results? 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 30, 2020, 12:33:35 PM
My guess is that Pat didn't audit Finlandia's schedule for last season. Send him a PM or an email, and he'll change it.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 30, 2020, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Baldini on January 30, 2020, 12:26:10 PM
Finlandia was 0-21 last season according to their website and d3hoop.com's listing of schedule results with 3 of those games being against Bay CC and Gogebic CC. I went to NCAA's website and they list Finlandia at 0-18 last season with no record of those games being played, which is just confirming what we all thought was the case. It is also a given that the games are not used for SOS purposes or used for any other metrics, but if d3hoops.com is listing the results and showing Finlandia as 0-21, are they not than recognizing the games as official games? Not trying to be a pain here, but why does d3hoops.com list the games in the official results?

I don't know if Pat will want to go back and change things, but, generally, for our purposes, if it's not marked as a regional game, it doesn't really matter.  Only the regional games get pulled for SOS and stuff like that.  We could go mark them as exhibition and they might not show up in the schedule anymore, but it wouldn't change anything else in the system.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 30, 2020, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 30, 2020, 12:33:35 PM
My guess is that Pat didn't audit Finlandia's schedule for last season. Send him a PM or an email, and he'll change it.

I audit, but schools have the ability to change them and I don't get any notification.

With this year's Finlandia schedule, I went through the process of actually locking out changes, which takes about 10 times as long but seemed necessary.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 30, 2020, 02:27:21 PM
Finlandia...... the UMPI of old
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 30, 2020, 04:50:15 PM
Finlandia: UMPI, but with a better school song. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zg_af9b8c)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 31, 2020, 02:01:22 AM
Finlandia, our endowment is small, and we make up for it by having just a 31% retention rate...
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: augie77 on January 31, 2020, 02:39:26 AM
Hey, stop picking on Suomi.  It's the largest (only) private college in the Upper Peninsula.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on January 31, 2020, 06:10:15 AM
Game of 1/30/20

Maranatha Baptist  95,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  56
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 31, 2020, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: augie77 on January 31, 2020, 02:39:26 AM
Hey, stop picking on Suomi.  It's the largest (only) private college in the Upper Peninsula.

I kid because I love (well, my wife is from a small town near Houghton and went to Northern...)
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 31, 2020, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 31, 2020, 02:01:22 AM
Finlandia, our endowment is small, and we make up for it by having just a 31% retention rate...

One winter in the U.P. is just about all that anybody can handle.

I have a deep respect for Yoopers, even though I think that they're all borderline nuts to live there.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: smedindy on January 31, 2020, 04:28:17 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 31, 2020, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 31, 2020, 02:01:22 AM
Finlandia, our endowment is small, and we make up for it by having just a 31% retention rate...

One winter in the U.P. is just about all that anybody can handle.

I have a deep respect for Yoopers, even though I think that they're all borderline nuts to live there.

My mother-in-law and sister-in-law seem to be Ride or Die Youppers.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2020, 04:56:46 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 31, 2020, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: smedindy on January 31, 2020, 02:01:22 AM
Finlandia, our endowment is small, and we make up for it by having just a 31% retention rate...

One winter in the U.P. is just about all that anybody can handle.

I have a deep respect for Yoopers, even though I think that they're all borderline nuts to live there.

I spent the winters of 67-68 and 68-69 at the former Air Force Base in the UP, I was there on orders, I too have a deep respect for Yoopers. Shoveling out runway lights for the B-52's on alert was character building.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 01, 2020, 03:22:37 PM
Game of 1/31/20

Crown  90,  Trinity Bible (N.D.)  (NCCAA-D2)  47
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 02, 2020, 06:05:22 AM
Games of 2/1/20

SUNY Delhi  104,  Pratt  (USCAA)  72
UC Santa Cruz  91,  Cal Miramar  (Other)  74
Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 96, Medgar Evers 95
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 05, 2020, 04:10:35 AM
Games of 2/4/20

Staten Island (NCAA-D2) 82, York (N.Y.) 49
Maranatha Baptist  90,  Dayspring Bible  (Other)  53
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 08, 2020, 07:08:13 AM
Games of 2/8/20

Maine-Fort Kent (USCAA) 86, Pine Manor 82
Lehman  87,  Staten Island  (NCAA-D2)  75
Great Lakes Christian (NCCAA-D2) 90, Maranatha Baptist 85
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on February 09, 2020, 07:33:15 AM
Mrs. hopefan and hopefan taking off for the trip of a lifetime...

Will be returning during conference tourney weekend... will post final D3 w/l against non D3 at end of season
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on February 12, 2020, 07:20:27 AM
Adding these in hopefan's absences. On your return you may need to do some auditing, Sir.

Games 2/9/20

Valley Forge 74, Touro (Other) 54
UC Santa Cruz 69, Westcliff (Other) 56

Game 2/10/20

Staten Island 66 (NCAA-D2), Brooklyn 61

Games 2/11/20

Valley Forge 110, Penn State Brandywine (USCAA) 93
Maranatha Baptist 80, Moody Bible (NCCAA-D2) 70
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on February 17, 2020, 01:54:32 PM
Games 2/12/20

Hunter 76, Staten Island 75 (NCAA-D2)
Fisher 78 (NAIA-D2), Pine Manor 54
SUNY-Delhi 98, Bryant and Stratton-Liverpool 75 (USCAA)

Game 2/15/20

Holy Family-Wisconsin 87 (NAIA-D2), Finlandia 70

Game 2/17/20

Rochester (Mich.) 93 (NAIA-D2), Finlandia 49
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on February 24, 2020, 01:50:00 PM
Games 2/18/20

Great Lakes Christian 107 (NCCAA-2), Finlandia 75
Maine-Presque Isle 84, Maine-Fort Kent 78 (USCAA)
Baruch 76, Staten Island 63 (NCAA-D2)
Maranatha Baptist 78, Lincoln Christian 77 (NAIA-D2)

Game 2/20/20

Holy Family (Wis.) 86 (NAIA-D2), Maranatha Baptist 64

Games 2/22/20

Valley Forge 84, Christendom 70 (USCAA)
St. Katherine 76 (NAIA-D2), UC Santa Cruz 52

 
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on March 04, 2020, 10:56:26 AM
Can't close this page out for 2019-20 as SUNY-Delhi and St. Thomas Texas are the 1-2 seeds in the USCAA D1 Tourney in Laurel Highlands Pa. this weekend... Good luck to both!!!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on March 04, 2020, 02:00:40 PM
Quote from: hopefan on March 04, 2020, 10:56:26 AM
Can't close this page out for 2019-20 as SUNY-Delhi and St. Thomas Texas are the 1-2 seeds in the USCAA D1 Tourney in Laurel Highlands Pa. this weekend... Good luck to both!!!
My Northwestern Eagles are also playing in the NCCAA D1 tourney, beat NAIA D1 Hannibal-LaGrange last night 92-61.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
Is that a regional? The NCCAA website says the D-I tourney is two weeks from now.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: monsoon on March 04, 2020, 03:06:21 PM
Welcome back, hopefan!
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on March 04, 2020, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
Is that a regional? The NCCAA website says the D-I tourney is two weeks from now.
Yes, it was a regional round.  We don't know which round it was as Bethel (Indiana) might still get an invite to the NAIA tournament and eliminate the need for a regional championship game.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on March 05, 2020, 08:30:45 PM
Quote from: AO on March 04, 2020, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
Is that a regional? The NCCAA website says the D-I tourney is two weeks from now.
Yes, it was a regional round.  We don't know which round it was as Bethel (Indiana) might still get an invite to the NAIA tournament and eliminate the need for a regional championship game.

Bethel (Indiana) didn't make the NAIA field of 32.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: AO on March 06, 2020, 09:18:33 AM
Quote from: Baldini on March 05, 2020, 08:30:45 PM
Quote from: AO on March 04, 2020, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
Is that a regional? The NCCAA website says the D-I tourney is two weeks from now.
Yes, it was a regional round.  We don't know which round it was as Bethel (Indiana) might still get an invite to the NAIA tournament and eliminate the need for a regional championship game.

Bethel (Indiana) didn't make the NAIA field of 32.
At the time of my post they hadn't released the field yet.  The regional championship game is going to be played 3/14 at Bethel.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Baldini on March 06, 2020, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: AO on March 06, 2020, 09:18:33 AM
Quote from: Baldini on March 05, 2020, 08:30:45 PM
Quote from: AO on March 04, 2020, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
Is that a regional? The NCCAA website says the D-I tourney is two weeks from now.
Yes, it was a regional round.  We don't know which round it was as Bethel (Indiana) might still get an invite to the NAIA tournament and eliminate the need for a regional championship game.

Bethel (Indiana) didn't make the NAIA field of 32.
At the time of my post they hadn't released the field yet.  The regional championship game is going to be played 3/14 at Bethel.

Understood. I was just giving the update after the NAIA announced the field.

Good luck to Northwestern in their push for the NCCAA D-1 title.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: Caz Bombers on May 04, 2020, 10:03:46 PM
Holy Family (Wis.), FKA Silver Lake College is closing down - a staple in this thread every season.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on July 06, 2020, 12:03:06 PM
FINAL 2019-20 Win Loss D3 vs non D3   

D3 versus:      
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          13      
NCAA-D2                   12          25      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     31          40      
NCCAA-D1                   11          1      
NCCAA-D2                   44          14      
USCAA                        77          16      
Other                           17          0      
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on July 06, 2020, 12:54:34 PM
Quote from: hopefan on July 06, 2020, 12:03:06 PM
FINAL 2019-20 Win Loss D3 vs non D3   

D3 versus:      
                                 W         L      
NCAA-D1                   0          13      
NCAA-D2                   12          25      
NAIA-D1                     2          4      
NAIA-D2                     31          40      
NCCAA-D1                   11          1      
NCCAA-D2                   44          14      
USCAA                        77          16      
Other                           17          0

How was that trip of a lifetime? Hadn't noticed that u were back on the board Mar 4.
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: hopefan on July 06, 2020, 02:28:14 PM
Ronk... very nice of you to ask... the trip of a lifetime was exactly that.... we flew to Sydney, cruised Australia and New Zealand... our timing could not have been better, saw rain only one day (a day when we had no excursion scheduled), fires were all over (never saw even smoke ), and most important, we beat the corona virus by days, returning end of February (Norwegian had numerous safety protocol procedures in place already, and I never heard of any cases coming out of the cruise).
And goodness, Australia excursions were good, New Zealand was even better... only downside was the lengthy flights.....
Title: Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
Post by: ronk on July 06, 2020, 03:25:05 PM
 Good to hear! A friend visited New Zealand for 3 weeks in Feb; 1 of her excursions(boat) couldn't return because of 6" rain in 20 hours flooded the dock area(Medford Sound); spent 3 days at sea instead til they landed somewhere else and were helicoptered back to their tour.