Three-Ball,
Yes, I agree that the tourney is a long way away.
I think this strech over the next month will prove a lot. It will be interesting as we will see leaders emerge and the plot start to thicken like your moms homemade gravy.
Happy Holidays to everyone who reads this, you are like the armed forces; The Few, and The Proud.
PEACE
Well, its after the holidays, and apparently I will be talking to myself!
I hope everyone had a good holiday and that everyone comes back ready to talk some lady LMC basketball!!
Trey, thanks for the christmas letter by the way.
PEACE
I must say that I have to compliment Edgewood's First Year Head Coach Bobbi Endress and the job her and her staff is doing thus far. The Eagles came out this past week and beat a quality Marian team, and they continue their strong play as the season progresses. Edgewood seems to have a different attitude than in years past and hopefully they can keep building on their momentum throughout the rest of the regular season and into tournament play. They don't have many flashy players by no means, but they are starting to learn the game of basketball and quite frankly, are getting enjoyable to watch. Look for the Eagles to make some strides in the tournament this year.
Quick recap:
TUES.--Warriors lose to the Fish, in part (I only say in part) due to some horrendous reffing. If you look at my track record, you know I don't speak of calls or no calls, but instead of players and teams. HOWEVER this is the exception, as a slew of highly questionable whistles in the last few minutes hurt the Warriors--including a charge on a flop with 0.4 left. Who calls a charge with 0.4 left, 12 feet away from the basket? Unreal. Warrior Fish, you were there, tell it like it is.
SAT.--Although I was not in attendance, the ladies pulled out a big road W at Marian. K. Christensen had a solid game for the men in second game of the doubleheader (24/10, game winning free throws), but the ladies also had something special. Specifically, Kami "Perfect" Ten Pas lived up to her billing with a big 23 and an even bigger three with 0.6 left to win the game--her first trey of the year, mind you. I'm guessing the Warriors learned a lesson from that Wednesday game: When in doubt, take the outside shot for the win instead of driving to the rack and getting a player-control foul.
That's all for now. Post on, Warrior Fish, and hello newcomers, Mr. Peter Pannounce! Two is company, three is a party.
Welcome Pannounce, it is nice to talk to more than just one other person. Trey can be a little boaring at times and his viewpoints narrow. j/k
Yes, 3-ball, i have to agree that the call with .4 left was a little bit WRONG. I had a clear view of it and it was not a charge by any means. But, you and I both know that to error is human. It is a tough loss for the Warriors, who until that point were undefeated in conference.
Lakeland may be injured, but they are still the defending conference champs. These past few weeks with wins against Concordia,(who defeated Edgewood in OT, a team who until a victory over alverno was 0-11) Wisconsin Lutheran, and MSOE, Lakeland has showed great heart in being able to preform with what they have left. Good Job Ladies.
WLC also shows somthin with a win over Marian this past weekend. Props to Kami for that huge 3. Granted, that might be her first of the year, but doubt that it is the first attempt also.
The race toward post season play is heating up. Every game will be exciting! except alverno and MSOE games.
Lakeland dominates a Maranatha team that I believe I said was suprizing me at the beginning of the year.
How can a team that beats Edgewood before Christmas fall to ALVERNO after the holiday break??? That just baffles me to no end.
In the first half, Lakeland outscored MBBC by 34. Then, MBBC must have had one heck of a halftime pep talk cauz they outscored LC 27-13 in the second half, and LC played starters!! I think MBBC has some potential. Bond needs to keep that free-range shot under control. If you cant hit a shot from 24', dont keep trying. Learn how to dish the ball inside to those two big girls and in a few years, you'll have the twin tower option that Lakeland has now with Porter and Steinert.
Also, big props to LC's Steinert for scoring her 1000'th point at Lakeland. An incredable feat considering she scored just 82 points her freshman year.
PEACE
Well, since no one else apparently cares about LMC women's basketball, I am getting rather discouraged. I dont want to keep posting just so I can reflect on how great my opinions are!
LC lays a "smokey the bear" down on the Inferno, dousing their fire. Even with all sorts of injuries, the Muskies continue their domination of the LMC. Its to bad that there is not more compitition in the LMC other than WLC. That sets a team up for failure in the NCAA Tourney. Soft schedules and sub-par opponents = bad news bears (Walter Matthau) for anyone who makes it that far.
WLC gets shut down by an impressive EC showing in the Edgedome. Not exactly sure how EC can get to be 21 points up on WLC, but goes to show that there is a lot of mediocrity in the league.
LC goes to Marian this week. Look for a repeat win by the Muskies. (that is of course if anyone cares) WLC has Alverno and MSOE.
So, in summary, this week is not the best for getting into LMC women's basketball, as there are only 3 games to care about and even those are foregone conclusions. Perhaps we should start watching SuperBowl Pregame shows this week! GO NEW ENGLAND!!
PEACE
Should be a dandy tonite at the Edgedome....both Lakeland and Edgewood are at 7-2, Lakeland has something to prove since they got it handed to them at Lakeland back in December, should be an exciting game.
Turns out you were mistake Pannounce. Unless you consider seeing two teams shoot <40% in a game.
Personally, I have seen those games and let me tell you, at some point, you might just wanna be drug out and shot rather than suffer another hip-heaved shot and the sound of a clang off the rim. Granted, the fights for the rebounds can be rather entertaining, but not worth the rest of the game.
Not that anyone reads this stuff besides three people, and maybe not even that, but EC is now in first place (first time in two years LC has not been first) and there is a three way tie for 2nd. For the first time in history, the tournament might actually be interesting!
PEACE
The Lady Crusaders getting back on track with an OT win over WLC. If there wasn't such a BIG hiccup right in the middle of the season there might have been a three way race for conference. Now a first round tourny matchup in the tin shed will have to do.
I'm back, and just to help everyone breathe a little easier, I would like to announce that yes, God has cleared me to post.
Now, onto the "Wow, Amazing!" things that are happening in the LMC:
- Of course, Lakeland is out of first place, with that ever-so-tight battle at the top (three teams within one game of Edgewood)
- Maranatha has four conference wins, including the overtime "Tin Shed Thrilla" last night
- The WLC/Natha game ended up 88-85, probably the highest scoring game since, oh, forever
- Emily Laete on the WLC putting up 30 points all over the map
If this post isn't up to par, I've been a tad incoherent since I saw the 88-85 score this morning. I mean, what is more believable--the Caped Crusaders beating WLC, or both teams putting up those kinds of numbers? I love it--it has restored my faith, for a moment, in LMC ladies' hoops.
Pannounce, good to see you make a one-time post here/switcheroo from the men's side. How about your future ex-wife, 007 (I mean Kim Bond) hitting the clutch shots last night? You should pray that she sticks with you in the future. Your kid would certainly have a bright future--either in broadcasting or basketball.
Yea, I'll tend to wander over on this side of the board from time to time. So my girl had a good one against Lutheran. Good to hear...and good for her! Trey, you're more optimistic about our future than I am...although I did play basketball all 4 years in high school, so I think our children will be alright.
In any case....not only is there a three way tie for second...should Marian knock off Edgewood at Marian this Saturday, there would be a three way tie for first, pending on who would be tied for first after the WLC Lakeland game. With four games to go, tourney is just around the corner.
Warrior Fish--where are you at? It's been almost one week since your last foray into this area? And I thought you were the chief of all LMC lady basketball gurus.
Pannounce, I wish you were bringing Ms. Bond to the Valentine's Day rumble between the men of Edgewood and WLC. Sorry to hear that you will not be in attendance.
Oh yes, PA, how are you and our mutual friend Mr. Bizrizzo associated? Is this an based on your grade school/HS experiences around the Appleton area?
Oh yea, me and Biz go way back to the evangelical grade school basketball court. He was a little upset with me on deciding to go to the public school after my eighth grade graduation. We played against each other in high school and he dominated me when he played D-Line and I was QB. We see each other out downtown Appleton from time to time.
Yea I was too scared to ask Bond to the V-Day game at the REX. I might just send her flowers instead. I think I have a new crush now, the Concordia women's head coach. Not a bad looking gal. Maybe I'll send her some flowers too. Oh yea Edgewood won tonite, big. They win one on Saturday against Alverno, they'll clinch a share of the conference title.
PA
Amongst all this Eureka/Rockford talk going on, it looks like those Aurora girls made a statement last night @ Eureka, beating them by one in overtime. I didn't get to see the game, but I'd start taking those girls seriously right now, everyone knows how they like to start peaking at around this time. As for Dominican, whom the Aurora girls also beat, I guess you can't win unless you shoot a ton of free throws, and that was definitely proven at your place this past Tuesday night. On top of that, that was the most horrible display of sportsmanship, that I have ever seen from a team. How about you try proving yourselves by playing ball, and not by trying to seriously injure the other players. I definitely noticed that from the stands that night. And...I'm kinda shocked about this...But what's going on with BU right now? They're not lookin too good at the moment.
What's the word eaglepride..? Lack of leadership, or is it just playing woes..? Or, could it be, team chemistry, perhaps...?
Whats with all the Eureka/Rockford talk? It's only a match-up of the 1st and 2nd place teams in conference and if Rockford wins then they clinch at least a share of the conference title. Not to mention their final 2 games are against Clarke and Dominican who are 6th and 7th in the conference. Eureka already beat Rockford once and if they do it again they have an advantage over them in the standings. Rockford is a team whose record is 17-5 and they beat a Hope team that was ranked in the preseason top 25 and is back in the top 25 with only 2 losses on the season. Turn Rockford's record around and what do you get??? Thats right, the record of your Aurora team who has not won a game outside of the NIIC this season.
Aurora did that last year...(wait, maybe they won 1 or 2 non-conference games last year)...
Hmmm...Remember what happened last year..?
Don't think a point needs to be proven there...
Good luck to everyone this weekend.
Aurora is peaking at the right time. It is extremely hard to go to Eureka and pull out a victory. Just look at Rockford and Benedictine, they both lost at EC. AU has a good chance at winning their last three games and finishing with an 8-4 conference record. Gaining steam for the conference tourney
My Eagles played awful on Tuesday, just one of those games. BU will turn it around before the tourney starts. Nothing to worry about! As for Aurora, every team has its day. Rockford-Eureka, big game! I would have to give the edge to RC at home but Eureaka's Reardon will be a tough matchup for them. She could light them up!
Aurora had much some better players last year than this years team does. Look at some of the non-conference oppenents that Aurora and Rockford had in common. Aurora lost to UW-Oshkosh by 30 and Hope by 50. Meanwhile, Rockford beat Hope and was leading Oshkosh the entire game until the last minute losing by 2. Last year was last year and that is in the past now. Both teams are different and Rockford is a much improved team from last year. Good luck at getting 8 conference wins cause the rest of your schedule is not that easy.
The only thing that will matter is who will be still playing during the first week of March. A handful of teams have a chance at winning the conference tourney.
Non-Conference doesn't mean much, the real season starts on Feb. 21. Seven teams will start, but only one will finish. I have a feeling AU has a good shot at repeating last years run.
You're right eaglepride, EVERY team has it's day...Too bad Aurora didn't just have "A DAY", this past week...
Hopefully yours will come again soon.
Again, good luck to everyone today.
Sorry-"A week"! Aurora had a good week. I'm not taking anything from them, they are winning, so congrats to them. I am glad to see there are "bandwagon" fans still around though. All year you have been bad mouthing your squad and all of a sudden, they win a few games, and your talking like they are the conference favorites. Why is that? Good luck to everyone.
AU! AU! AU! The great week continues. I told everyone at the beginning of the year that Aurora comes on strong at the end of the year. Same story different year. The tough non-conference schedule pays off. I can't wait until the tourney starts. AU should be a huge threat to everyone in conference. AU! AU! AU!
Haven't seen a Maranatha game this year, but I must say I'm shocked at what these women are doing. Coach Mo deserves a season like this, and so does Alicia Michaelsen after her injuries. I always looked forward to what her and Kim Bond would do on the same team, and apparently there's more to the team than just those two. Anyone who's seen the team in action, I'd love to hear your take.
Aurora wrapped up the week by having another "DAY", yesterday evening, defeating Concordia @ home by 3 in overtime. Congrats ladies. Good luck with Eureka, again on Tuesday.
Hmmm... How about all year a lot of people have been "bad mouthing" Aurora. The only time I "bad mouthed"(if that's what you want to call it) this team, was when they lost to rockford, and quite frankly, they would have "bad mouthed" themselves for the way they played that night. Heck, everyone would have actually. Because they had so much more potential than the way they played against them @ home. All Year..? I think you're definitely mistaken, but nice try anyway. People have been on here totally doubting Aurora from the start, ever since the displays they have been showing during non-conference. Only ones here that still had faith in them, just so happened to be the ones with ties to the school (Auballer, and myself). And as far as conference favorites go...Have you seen the standings lately? Looks like Rockford has that wrapped up with the win against Eureka last night. The battle for second is still on, so hold up when you say "conference favorites." If it's a crime to enjoy the fact that a team is playing quite well right now, and they deserve some praise for it, because they sure as heck aren't getting it from anywhere else, then please, let me know. You're right..."All of a sudden, they win a few games"
And look now...
A three way tie for second...
I'd say those few games you are speaking of, are the few that have definitely counted right now.
NIIC-Good Luck this week.
Big games tomorrow for some teams! Aurora has home court advantage when they play Eureka, just after playing them 6 days before. Eureka's coming off of 2 straight losses this past week, so they're gonna be looking for some revenge, look for that one to be a great game between two good teams (GO SPARTANS!

). Concordia has home court advantage against Benedictine (who is also looking for some revenge, after losing to Concordia on their home court in their first meeting), which should be a good rematch as well. While both of these games should indeed be very good ones, Rockford should not have too much trouble @ home against Clarke.
Regents have to keep up the pressure. You have one the conference but you have to keep momentum into next week. Play hard this week, you still have to get to 20 wins for the NCAA just in case you dont win the tourney. It's nice to have home court thruoghout the tourney. You have played well at home this season.
There will only be 1 team in the NIIC that will make the NCAA tourney and that will be the winner of the conference tourney. There is no way RC will make the NCAA tourney if they fail to win the conf. tourney. The NIIC is just too weak to get 2 teams in the field.
It was a very hard fought game between two very excellent conference teams tonight, Eureka came out on top to beat Aurora by one in OT. A very well played game for both teams, but it ultimately came down to who could shoot free throws in the end. Aurora now has to battle again this saturday with BU, to have a chance at getting 3rd place in the conference standings (I think this is correct, both teams, AU and BU, will need this win to get 3rd?).
It'll be an exciting finish to the end.
Oh, and congrats to Jessica Reardon, for breaking the scoring record and becoming the all time leading scorer @ Eureka.
ROCKFORD REGENTS #1
Very nice article in todays around the nation writings about Rockford. These girls have worked hard under the direction of a coach who works hard to get them ready for their games. That 70 game losing streak is long gone, and now the girls are working to have their second 20 win season. Good luck tomorrow!!!!
Well Clark, I will tell you one thing. MBBC can shoot the lights out and does so from time to time. I WILL, without question, vote for MBBC coach as COY. Anyone who turns a program around like that, deserves it HANDS DOWN!
As for the Tournament tonight
PREDICTIONS
EC over AC (big suprise)
LC over MSOE (a little to close for comfort for the ailing Muskies)
MBBC over WLC (even at the REX, MBBC will be lights out and there is nothing Klay can do about that)
MC over CUW (at least one Marian team will get a win in the post season)
Thats all for now. I will check back after all my predictions have turned out wrong and all can view me putting my foot in my mouth one more time. (by all i mean 2, as only 2 people actually read this board)
NEVER DOUBT WARRRIOR_FISH!!! CUW almost, almost upset my pics, but MC came through. MBBC pulls off the upset with a zone defense. Now lets just hope my predictions are correct on the men's side tomorrow.
Saturday Ladies Action
MBBC over EC in a thriller
65-63
LC over MC in another gut-check for the Muskies
72-64
Well I think you'll be wrong on both sides there fish...EC was flat tonite, but still won by 20. They will be on all cylinders tomorrow nite...downing my future ex wife and the rest of the Crusader crowd in a 70-61 win. LC will down the nurses, and it will be a classic Lakeland Edgewood showdown next weekend...
Angie Smith gets double-double and leads 'Natha to a W, setting us up for a possible LMC title. Bond drops 24 pts, 8 3's (she's done it before) and Colleen Goff also has a double-double. 75-70
Bring on the Muskies!
statkid, better pratice typing those "y"'s and "q"'s for tonights game. Bond will light it up and you might wear out your keyboard.
You just might have to come to LC with your beloved team next weekend and take a stat lesson from they guys that do the job at LC. Those guys cant be beat!
Go Eagles! What a huge win for them. It was a great effort by the girls. Now its time for the tournament and the bid for the berth is up in the air. I think it is pretty even from the 1-5 seeds, so anyone can win it. The best post player in conference, Tamika Curtis, is getting hot at the right time, so watch out!
(Message edited by eaglepride on February 19, 2005)
Did Maranatha's run continue?
Nope. Looks like the dream year is over. LC @ EC saturday at 7pm.
Was pretty impressed with Maranatha's run they had in the tourney...they had Edgewood on the ropes all game. Kittoe came to play in the second half dropping 20 including 4 threes. Rematch of last year's tourney championship only this time its at the dome.
My prediction...
EC 66
LC 61
PA
The real season starts tonight. Au looks to repeat last years feat. First victim, Concordia.
Quality wins for all the top seeds last night, beating their opposing teams by 20 or more in first round action of the conference tournament. Eureka now hosts Benedictine in what should be a great game, with both teams winning at home against each other, earlier in the season. While that's happening, Aurora will have to travel to top-seeded Rockford, where Aurora hasn't shown much of a problem for Rockford, having lost to them by 15 to 20+ margins, in both meetings this season. But, don't count them out just yet. I was in attendance at the game last night, and those girls pretty much showed that they don't mess around when the season is on the line, and comes down to one game at a time. I'd look for that game, to be a great one as well.
Good luck to the remaining teams tomorrow night, and especially good luck to the Spartans.
PA,
It will be close, but not that high scoring. The Muskies need to find a way to beat the eagles, who have had their number all year.
Same scenario as last year. AU travels to RC for the second round match up. The Spartans are playing well and made CU look awful last night. This should be a great game, but look for AU to repeat last years performance and move to the Championship game. These girls can play some ball when it matters. Second victim, Rockford.
AUballer- Second victim Rockford huh? Looks like you spoke too soon!!!
AU baller thanks for making the RC girls work harder. Yes it was a good game but a win is a win at this time of the season, doesnt matter how pretty it was. Aurora has improved and should be very good next year. I think this NIIC will be a great conference next year with so much young talent coming back. Saturdays game should be a very hard played game between 2 evenly matched teams. The team with the least amount of nerves will pull this one out. Good luck Regents its been a great year so far, dont stop now!!!
Yes, it was indeed a great game between two pretty evenly matched teams. No one could stop Butler last night though. She gave Aurora everything she had. I also think there was a bit of a momentum change, towards Rockford, when Wheeler went down. It was all about composure in the end. Great end to the season though Aurora, you couldn't have fought any harder, and you never gave up. You girls are already prepared for next season, some teams better watch out for you.
Good luck to you on saturday Rockford.
And does anyone know the status of Wheeler right now?
Rockford over Eureka 81-46 to win the NIIC Tournament. Rockford led throughout and led by 6 at the break. The Regents dominated the 2nd half in every phase of the game. Beautiful passing, great shooting, pressure defense, and blocking shots (they had at have had almost 15 as a team). Rockford showed why they were the best team in the conference tonight and all year long. Now its on to the NCAA Tournament. GO REGENTS!!!
don't know how much you all care (probablly not that much), but Natha won the NCCAA Midwest Regional today. Pannounce, your girl didn't have a great game, but had double figures, couple of steals and (go figure, as always) a clutch three late to secure the W. My girl Angie Smith had a double-double with 13 pts and rebs, and went a Christian Latner-esque 10-10 from the chairtiy stripe. Alicia Michelson iced the game with free throws down the stretch to send the Saders out of Jerusalem (for a few days) and down to Florida for nationals.
By the way, PA, rummor is that your girl may not play next year. Hoped you enjoyed watching her while you could.
Well Stat boy, that's fine, cause I am done. Officially hung up the mic tonite as both the men and the women took home the tourney titles moving on to the NCAA Regional.
Great atmosphere at the dome tonite. Lakeland brought half the college down to Madtown. Loudest women's game I've ever been at. Props go to Katie Hensgen, the lone senior on the team who finally got to the tournament after four hard years of work.
Close game in the second half, both teams played their hearts out. What you would expect from a conference tournament championship game. I do believe the better team won tonite as they beat Lakeland all three times this year. Props go out to first year head coach Bobbi Endress. She locked up her Coach of the Year honors in the LMC.
Selection Sunday is tomorrow.
PA
It is time to find out who is in... and who is out.
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It is time to find out who is in... and who is out.
Whose bubble has been burst and who is wearing Cinderella's glass slippers.
It's Selection Sunday... and tonight there will be a special "Hoopsville" as the 2005 NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Brackets are announced... LIVE on our air!
The Road to Salem and Virginia Beach officially starts tonight! It plans to be a huge night... as 50 womens and 48 mens teams are officially invited to the dance and a chance at a national title.
Some teams already know they are going (thanks to winning their conferences) and some think they are going, but there are always surprises.
So tonight, we will break it all down. Starting at 8:30 PM EST, we will take a look at who is definitely in, who might make it, who will be disappointed, and what match-ups you might want to look forward to seeing later in the week.
Then at 10:00 PM EST... we will broadcast LIVE the Women's Selection Show so you can find out when we do... the 50 teams on the Road to Virginia Beach.
That will be followed by the Men's Selection Show at 10:30 PM EST - when 48 teams find out what their Road to Salem will be like.
After those selections... we will go over it with a fine-tooth comb and find out who we think are the surprises!
And throughout the show, we will hear from different regions with live reports and talk to coaches that have made surprising moves into the tournament.
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Rockford girls it's been a pleasure watching you play this season. You have made me a follower of girls basketball. I really enjoyed watching your enthusiasm and hustle. You girls showed a joy for the game which you don't see at some levels. I won't be able to be at the games anymore cause my baseball season starts today, but I just want to wish you girls the best in the tourney. You earned the right to be there, so go out play hard, and enjoy the moment. GO REGENTS!!!!!
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Hey, Edgewood gave it a good run. Within 2 with about 11 minutes to go I hear...not too bad, ended up on the short side 70-59 at Stout. Congrads girls on a great year, I'll be checking in from time to time in the future as I retire from the scorer's table.
PA signing off
Ripon 62 Rockford 57
Close game. Congrats on the effort.
Props to Kristi Strunz for being the only Rockford player to do any damage (22 pts) in the game. (Snow had 11, that was about it).
Thanks to the majority of people that posted this year it was FUN! For those who kept it lighthearted and fun thank's, for those that tried to make it too serious learn something for next year. Rockford did not finish the year with their best game, way too many turnovers from a veteran team, number 1 priority for next year. They have a lot work in the off season to improve so we can host the first round. Home court is EVERYTHING.
Go Regent Softball!!!
Basketball in Division III at this time of year... is so SWEET!!!
32 teams still have a chance at two national titles... and many teams weren't expected to get this far.
Tonight, a preview of this weekend's Sweet 16 action and preparations for the Final Four... on "Hoopsville"!!! Wooster, Wittenburg, and Illinois Wesleyan are out of the men's bracket!
So, who in the world is still left in the Men's Road to Salem?
Well... UW-Stevens Point, Amherst, and St. John Fisher.
Trinity (TX) is still alive. Most thought they would be playing IWU on Friday night, instead they face Hanover. Tonight, we will chat with Coach Pat Cunningham about his Tigers. Their road to the Final Four is going to be a tough one.
Then there is John Carrol, who defeated Wittenburg to earn their Sweet 16 berth. Coach Mike Moran seems to have his Blue Streaks team clicking on all the right cylinders, having won the OAC before their run in the NCAA's. We will chat with Coach Moran about his upcoming game against Albion... who got by on what some say is a questionable win over Wooster.
On the women's side, not too many upsets, even though DePauw and Buena Vista were eliminated on their Road to Virginia Beach.
Wesleyan continues to surprise as they took out Staten Island to earn their Sweet 16 game against Springfield. Coach Kate Mullen will join us live on the air to talk about how this season's finish isn't what the Cardinals planned on... and how they're looking to keep dancing.
George Fox will be earning a lot of frequent flyer miles this weekend. Coach Scott Rueck has his Bruins playing very good basketball and will take on St. Benedict, who upset Buena Vista. But how are the Bruins going to handle flying across the entire length of the nation for the game(s)... we will ask Coach Rueck.
And Salem is getting ready for their tenth Men's Final Four. ODAC Commissioner Brad Bankston will join us live on the air to let us know how the preparations are going. How you can get tickets! And what else you can expect and should do while in the great city of Salem (and Roanoke), Virginia.
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Any word on the Aurora coaching situation?
There's a situation? Buckley's name is still on the Aurora Web site.
Buckley stepped down. The new coach is former Lewis Univ. assistant Michelle Roof. Hopefully she can help bring back the days when the Spartans were winning numerous conference championships. I think she will.
Anyone ever read those ridiculous comments the Eureka coach makes after games on their website? Made me chuckle today reading them.
The season is right around the corner! How does everyones teams look? Any new freshman or transfers that will make an impact?
NEW SEASON EVERYONE!!!!
Anyone still checkin this thing? Is anyone as excited as I am for a new season of LMC women's basketall???
Gimmie your picks everone. We need to make our voices heard on LMC Media day.
(november 10th @ lakeland btw)
1. Edgewood
2. MBBC
3. Marian
4. LC
5. WLC
6. CUW
7. MSOE
8. DU <<<this one will be close
9. AC <<<
POY
Kim Bond and Nikki Updike.
ROY will come from Edgewood..they have at least 2 candidates
FYI Waririor Fish- I have it on good sources that Kim Bond isn't playing this year..
Rockford started off on the right foot. It may only be preseason but they took it to Wheaton(so called #11) last night leading by 10 at half only to slip and lose bya few in the end. Missed too many inside bunnies. When the legs get stronger the bunnies will fall.
Go! Regents :P
My dear friend, with good sorces,
You are correct. I did not know that she had left for nursing.
I hear our dear friends at 'Natha have only eight players with which to make a run at the LMC tourney upset bid, and one of those has a few pins in her wrist.
Bummer for them.
Preseason announced today:
2005-06 Women's Basketball Preseason Coaches Poll
#1 Edgewood College
#2 Lakeland College
#3 Wisconsin Lutheran College
#4 Marian College
#5 Concorida University
#6 Dominican University
#7 Milwaukee School of Engineering
#8 Maranatha Baptist Bible College
#9 Alverno
Edgewood is the team to beat, and if they loose one game in conference this year, I will be astonished.
Lakelands get #2 because of our past, but let me tell ya, I think they might move down the list here a lil bit.
evryone else, shrug. does it matter? EC will blow everyone away.
Tonight Concordia takes on Oskhosh.
Being a Titan fan and from the WIAC, how good is this Concordia team?
For the Titans, they are not very deep, but a solid starting 5. They did not play very well against Carroll College last week, so i expect them to improve.
Where is all the "SMACK TALK" this year??
???
Well, I am astonished. EC's downward spiral seems to show that last year was a fluke. LC is in the drivers seat sitting at 5-0.
Guess we will see what shakes out.
Again, just talking to myself here this year.
LC takes on WLC today. Muskies improve to 6-0.
Anyone have ANY thoughts on anything???
??? Well, I'm not in the loop these days, but my dad tells me that the Fish whalloped the Warriors. Sounds like Coach A and crew have developed another strong group of young ladies to work with. I'll be checking in every so often...maybe more posts will show up! ::)
Conference opens up tomorrow.....any thoughts or predicitons? Rockford and Eureka have the best records but my Eagles will give them a run for their money. It also looks like Aurora and Concordia are playing better.
Fish,
Don't hurt yourself backing up over that "edgewood's season was a fluke" comment....looks like teh ship is headed in the right direction..Megan Scheele, ROY
Half way thru the conference 5-0 2 game lead with out the Dorman.
Better TEAM.
Should be ranked!
Big game on Saturday between the Regents and Spartans. It is going to be tough for Rockford to come here and win. AU is due for a big win and I guarantee that will happen on Saturday.
And by the way, the Regents are not a better team without Dorman. She was back-to-back POY. Without her, they are an average team in bad conference.
What's up y'all. I'm new to the board and excited to get in on some LMC talk down the stretch. Good luck to all the teams. Looks like we've got an exciting end to the race. HUGE game down at the Edgedome on Saturday afternoon. Not to mention a heated match up @ MSOE.
I said better TEAM. The team plays better as a group more balanced. Its hard to replace those numbers but its not hard to replace the selfish play.
Congrats AU on a big win over that "better TEAM" regentfan1 spoke of (AU 75, Rockford 67).
regentfan1, you must be a parent of a kid who's finally getting to play because Dorman left the team. I've seen Dorman play and if you think a player is "selfish" because they were one of the most dominating players in the NIIC, then I suppose you are right. RC has NO ONE that can take over a game - every time - like Dorman did. Rockford is still a good team and has some nice players, but they are very average now without Dorman. By the way, did you call Dorman "selfish" while she was playing for your Regents???
FYI, the combined won-lost record of the Regents' 17 victories is 134-209 (39%). They have just three wins over schools with winning records and just five wins over teams with double-digit win totals currently. The four teams who beat the Regents are currently 3rd (Aurora), 4th (UW-LaCrosse), 5th (Elmhurst) and 6th (UW-Whitewater) in their respective leagues.
Hmmmmm....
That was a big win for AU and with my Eagles winning they pulled within a game of conference leader Rockford. To Featherfriend.....Rockford has beaten the teams they should have and the losses have come to some quality teams (even if they are in the middle of their conferences). 17-4 is still a remarkable record either way and they are still winning conference. And a go-to player? How about Strunz who is averaging around 23 ppg in conference and lit up my Eagles for 30 in the game at our place? How about we support our conference teams, instead of bashing the league leader. It should be a fun race to watch down the stretch, good luck to everyone.
Eaglepride, it's not "bashing" your league leader to point out the facts, is it? These posts don't have to be about holding hands and singing "Kumbayah". Regentfan1 said Rockford should be ranked and I pointed out a couple reasons why they weren't...at least not when it comes to life as a Pool "B" team.
Strunz is no doubt a great player...and so is Butler and Jones (among others). My point to Regentfan1 was that Dorman's departure made RC average rather than dominent. If RC had only a portion of what Dorman was averaging in the games they lost, they would be 20-1 right now.
17-4 is very good (but all things considered far from remarkable), but I wonder if your Eagles had played the exact same schedule as RC if they might not be over .500 themselves (Didn't Benedictine lose to quite a few teams that are doing well this year?). Rockford looks like it gambled on only scheduling a few "tough" games to try to have a good record for Pool B purposes and - if you don't win those games - it can bite you in the backside.
Rockford is a better off without Dorman. She is nothing but headaches for the team. She is a quitter and we shouldn't even talk about someone who quits on a team.
Obviously, she is not a team player so she shouldn't be talked about unless its on a Rockford College "Quitter" chat. And the good thing about D3hoops.com is that you can start that chat!!!!
Great game at the Edgedome on Saturday! Exciting to the last minute. If they would have played another 5 minutes there is no telling who would have won that game. This sets up an interesting game on Wednesday up at Lakeland, not to mention some other important games down the stretch for the teams on top. Any predictions?
Feb. 8 Edgewood @ Lakeland*
Feb. 8 Marian @ Concordia (Wis.)*
Feb. 11 MSOE @ Lakeland*
Feb. 11 Wis. Lutheran @ Edgewood*
Feb. 13 Edgewood @ Marian*
Feb. 13 Lakeland @ Maranatha*
Feb. 13 Wis. Lutheran @ Concordia (Wis.)*
Good luck to everybody!
It's too bad those posting need to resort to name-calling ("selfish" & "quitter") of a college kid, as opposed to an intelligent discussion of circumstances. I believe the quote, "Me thinks thou doth protest too much" might apply. All the name calling leads me to believe Dorman must have been more valuable than "regentfan1" and "d3d3" care to admit!
Also, players leave teams for many, many reasons every season and have the right to do so. Sometimes it takes more courage to do what you feel is right, rather than do what is easiest. But, either way, this is D3 basketball and supposed to be about the student-athlete first...and therefore shouldn't elicit name-calling under any circumstances.
Rockford's Coach Amsbury has done a great job building up that program. But if I remember correctly, last summer he was featured on D3Hoops.com as a finalist for the St. Thomas job. Should people call him "selfish" or "quitter" because he was job hunting and looking to leave an NCAA playoff team at Rockford that was returning all of its top players? Of course not. He knows his circumstances and has a right to try to better himself...as does any player, especially at this level.
The topics should be about the student-athletes. In saying that, Dorman is not a student-athlete.
People do leave for many reasons that are acceptable and others that are not. Leaving your team on a road trip the school is paying for..selfish. Not coming back with your team...selfish.
In my opinion, if you start something, finish it.
As far as Rockford's coach, your statement is insane. First, it was during the summer, not during the season. Second, in coaching their is always potentially a better job available.
I'm with you featheredfriend. Not only was Dorman the best player on our team, she has been the best player in the conference since she first stepped onto the floor as a freshman. I wish her well.
d3d3, my point about the coach has to do with everyone has reasons for what they do. Things just happen, you deal with them, and you go on. The fact that it was summer is irrelavant. Didn't the coach recruit players to come play for him? If he had left wouldn't that seem disloyal to recruits and returning players? Did he tell recruits he was looking at other jobs? (That's a retorical question; which I don't believe he should have). Again, my point was everyone - players and coaches alike - have their reasons for things.
What gives you the right to be judge & jury to say what is acceptable? C'mon...it doesn't take an advanced degree to see what you say doesn't add up: 2-time conference Player of the Year (with stats supporting a third award), 3-time all-conference player and potential All-American suddenly decides just to quit basketball in the middle of her senior year. I'd bet money there's a lot more to Dorman leaving than the points you brought up...and, frankly, it's no one's business except the player & coach.
Would you call Strunz "selfish" for leaving Clarke College to go Rockford? Some people might argue that "finishing what you start" would apply there, too. I think she had every right to do what she felt was right for her...but I'll bet there were those in Dubuque who didn't see it that way.
Quote from: featheredfriend on February 06, 2006, 10:27:42 AM
d3d3, my point about the coach has to do with everyone has reasons for what they do. Things just happen, you deal with them, and you go on. The fact that it was summer is irrelavant. Didn't the coach recruit players to come play for him? If he had left wouldn't that seem disloyal to recruits and returning players? Did he tell recruits he was looking at other jobs? (That's a retorical question; which I don't believe he should have). Again, my point was everyone - players and coaches alike - have their reasons for things.
What gives you the right to be judge & jury to say what is acceptable? C'mon...it doesn't take an advanced degree to see what you say doesn't add up: 2-time conference Player of the Year (with stats supporting a third award), 3-time all-conference player and potential All-American suddenly decides just to quit basketball in the middle of her senior year. I'd bet money there's a lot more to Dorman leaving than the points you brought up...and, frankly, it's no one's business except the player & coach.
Would you call Strunz "selfish" for leaving Clarke College to go Rockford? Some people might argue that "finishing what you start" would apply there, too. I think she had every right to do what she felt was right for her...but I'll bet there were those in Dubuque who didn't see it that way.
What?? You stated,"things just happen, you deal with them, and you go on." Thats right, not everything is perfect, so you make a decision and commitment so stick to it.
It all adds up with Dorman. To a normal person who doesn't care about personal glory, they stay on the team if not for themselves then for other players or coaches. But Dorman is selfish and put herself before the team.
Also what gives me the right to be a judge & jury? Well, the fact that this is a message board where people state their opinions.
Featheredfriend-what you said about their Coach Amsberry and Kristi Strunz is ridiculous. They didn't let their teams down in the middle of a season. Its funny how you try to bring other people into the situation to try to defend Dorman and her actions.
d3d3...Dude, are you kidding? I defended coach Amsberry and Kristi Strunz's decisions and you find fault with that??? I mentioned it to point out that you've got a double-standard going and not everyone necessarily sees things the way you do. I could have mentioned dozens of other situations where people have left their teams, but those were two examples close to your own program.
This is one of those times when I guess we will have to agree to disagree. You are obviously too close to the team and/or coach Amsberry to look at things objectively...so why bother continuing this conversation? It's weird that you are so consumed in ripping Dorman. Man, you need to let go of the hate and find Jesus or something.
No wonder nobody ever posts on this board. Any subject that's brought up turns into a ridiculous catfight.
Unfortunately, Just Bill, that happens on many message boards.
The majority of the girls on the team and I parted on good terms. I still go to their games and I still support them as best I can even though I am no longer a part of the team. I wish them the very best in the rest of their season and only wish others could do the same for me. However, you all are entitled to your opinions and whether you think me "selfish" or "quitter" is entirely up to you. I have my reasons for leaving the team and you all have your reasons for disagreeing with me. There will be no happy medium regarding this issue. As featherfriend said, "agree to disagree." I do appreciate those of you who have shown your support.
Tough loss to Aurora on Saturday but Rockford always seems to bounce back from losses. Good luck to them tomorrow--I'll be there cheering for them.
The Dorman--The name states that you see yourself on a higher pedestal than others.
Thanks for quitting or getting kicked off, whatever you prefer!!!!
Hey "d3d3"-
Give it a rest. If you had a clue, you would see that "The Dorman" was mocking post #40 by "regentfan1" not putting herself on a pedestal. Frankly, you'd better read the rules for posting, because your last comment is bordering on slanderous.
How about engaging in topics like why your Regents aren't ranked with a 17-4 record instead?
one more thing for d3d3...
Dorman had enough courage to sign in as herself. It's easy to name-call behind your screen name as you did. Have some guts and call her a "quitter" or "selfish" using your real name. If what you say is true, you should have no problem doing so. C'mon...lend some credibility to your assertions. I suspect you don't have a fraction of the courage Dorman does...but here's your chance to prove me wrong.
but here's your chance to prove me wrong.
***crickets chirping***
So featheredfriend are you regent06? Maybe you are "THE DORMAN" too.
Give a REST...Why does the NIIC board only get action when people have personal agendas...Dorman has her reasons for leaving and they should be hers...not open to public speculation..This is DIII not DI, so I wish her well, she was a great player and we should remember her for that instead of bashing her behind screen names...
More basketball talk and less personal attacks...that would be a change for this board..
d3d3-
yeah...that's it...and I was on the grassy knoll, too. Oh, and I helped them fake the moon landing, too.
You must like Oliver Stone movies?
BTW, we're still waiting for you to lend credibility to your name-calling. Why are you changing the subject?
feathered friend why don't you give us your real name? I don't think people should take it personally.
I came to this post for the first time today to see what was happening in the NIIC, and wow you want to talk about a bunch gutless people.
Who cares if the Back-to-Back conference player of the year left, I have been at the last couple of conference tournaments and even went to the NCAA tournament last March and I don't think it really matters this year at all. All it means is that the Rockford College B-Ball team will make lay-ups when the game is on the line.
Let's talk about the NIIC tournament coming up!!!
MARCH MADNESS!!!!
Is it just me or has BEN's Tamika Curtis been dominating for the Eagles? (Don't confuse that with "dominating the Eagles," as players like Jennison Cox also perform quite well.) How many double-doubles does she have now to go with those four POTW awards? I'll be sure to tune in for the Benedictine-Clarke game tomorrow and see how she and Jennison Cox do against Jessi Briggs and Lauren Johnson as we face off against Curtis again on Saturday.
Going into the tournament, I predict it will be Rockford, Aurora, Benedictine, Clarke, Concordia, Eureka...anyone want to argue something relevant like this?
I deleted the absolutely blatant taunting post from earlier today. This isn't junior high, people.
I think RC will beat BU on Sat. in a close game.
I was suprised to see AU losing to Eureka lastnight. I thought AU would be really focused after giving RC its 1st conference loss. I guess that's why they play the games. :o
Quote from: shingle on February 06, 2006, 12:14:11 AM
Great game at the Edgedome on Saturday! Exciting to the last minute. If they would have played another 5 minutes there is no telling who would have won that game. This sets up an interesting game on Wednesday up at Lakeland, not to mention some other important games down the stretch for the teams on top. Any predictions?
Feb. 8 Edgewood @ Lakeland*
Feb. 8 Marian @ Concordia (Wis.)*
Feb. 11 MSOE @ Lakeland*
Feb. 11 Wis. Lutheran @ Edgewood*
Feb. 13 Edgewood @ Marian*
Feb. 13 Lakeland @ Maranatha*
Feb. 13 Wis. Lutheran @ Concordia (Wis.)*
Good luck to everybody!
Feb. 8 Edgewood @ Lakeland* <<<<<< LC by 5
Feb. 8 Marian @ Concordia (Wis.)*<<<<< CUW by 10+
Feb. 11 MSOE @ Lakeland* <<<<<< LC by 15
Feb. 11 Wis. Lutheran @ Edgewood*<<<<<WLC by 3
Feb. 13 Edgewood @ Marian*<<<<EC by 10
Feb. 13 Lakeland @ Maranatha*<<<<<< LC by 24
Feb. 13 Wis. Lutheran @ Concordia (Wis.)*<<<<< CUW by 3 @ the buzzer
Thats about it. Im just so excited to see that there is another person on here. I suppose it is an interesting time since there is the potential for a four way tie for first if LC doesnt come up big with a win tonight.
Great off night for WLC. Anytime you can not suit up and still improve your position in the standings is a good time. Will provide some excitement for their games at CUW and EC to finish the season.
What happened at CUW? I think I saw MC have all 5 starters in double digits, 9-15 from 3, outrebounding CUW by 2 (35-33), and 12 steals. MC is a scary team to play. Beware everyone in the tourney.
Good luck again to everyone this weekend.
Warrior Fish, you were pretty close on the LC score, though it prolly didn't look like it would be that close when they threw up 37 at halftime. Then you totally missed on the CUW score, but who would have guessed they would have such a let down after such a great game down at EC?
Let's see what happens between WLC and EC this weekend. It will be a tough time to catch Edgewood after a 2 game skid at home, though I bet WLC had some eyes at tonight's game.
Wow...imagine d3d3 and I agreeing on something!
Your Regents still have the most talent of any team in the NIIC and should definately be the favorite Saturday versus BU. It looks like RC can find many ways to beat you. BU might have one of - if not the most - consistent threats in the NIIC in Curtis, but RC has the deepest team. If Strunz is off, it seems like you get Butler or Jones or someone else to pick it up. For that reason alone, I don't think the game will be that close.
I think RC's biggest worry is what to do with the day off with the bye as the #1 seed. The real battle heading into the NIIC tournament is for the #2 slot. As I said before, on the regional or national level RC is average now..but when it comes to the NIIC they are still the best team by far (which, unfortunately, doesnt say much for the state of women's hoops overall in the NIIC).
another inexcusable loss, another misserable coaching job. How can a coach do so well one year and have no clue the next year. Maybe Dormans ego wasn't the only one out of control. The direction this team's underclassmen is going he will be lucky to field a team next year. If he wan'ts out of Rockford his credibility sure took a big hit this year. ??? :( >:( :( ??? :-[
Quote from: keith45 on January 19, 2006, 11:41:44 AM
Fish,
Don't hurt yourself backing up over that "edgewood's season was a fluke" comment....looks like teh ship is headed in the right direction..Megan Scheele, ROY
Um, dont look know Keith, but your team lost. A nice effort, but the championship game will be @ LC. What a year.
Regentfan, aren't you being a little harsh on the coach...He built that program up from nothing and had it in the NCAA's last year...Whatever issues are going on team wide, he shouldn't take the brunt of it...a look at their record this year and it isn't that bad....He may have applied for other jobs which is his right..Don't see why the hostility now..Last year it was all kisses and hugs...Could we say you are a fair-weather regentfan???
any predictions for Saturday's game at LC?
Any predictions for POY, ROY, All Conf?
I'll just say it once: I told you so.
Rockford - without Dorman - is an average team in a below average league.
Dropkick11...how can you not see how a coach has responsibility for the direction a team takes? A coach sets the tone, makes the decisions, "manipulates" the individuals into what he or she wants them to be and sets the rules. I once heard a coach say it's a "dictatorship not a democracy"...and in that case a coach has to take responsibility because - logically - you can't have it both ways. Also, a team that's lost three of it's last four games - including a 13-point loss to the league's last place team - is hardly having a good year. I refer you to a previous post to take a realistic look at their record and the fact that most of the teams they have played are below .500. Hey, water seeks it's own level.
Maybe all the slams on Dorman were a bit premature. If she had an "ego" she would have just played the season to run up her stats & honors, and would have ignored whatever circumstances made her decide to walk away from the game. In other words, don't confuse being a competitor with being egotistical. Oh, there's "egotism" on the RC team...but it wasn't Dorman...and "regentfan1" finally saw it!
don't want to play for a short... short...
man :o
Featheredfriend, considering you are the former Rockford SID, you sure like to rip on a man that has done an unbelievable job in his tenure as RCs coach.
My prediction: AU vs. BU in conference tourney championship!
I was not saying that the coah has no responisibility...What I was saying is that you need to look at a whole career there not just a season...where was Rockford before he got there?......As far as the team issues, a coach has some responsibilitiy but what about the players....If selfishness was on the club don't they need to take some resposiibility for that..A coach cannot watch his team 24/7....I am jsut saying that he has a proven record at Rockford and his accomplishments should not be boiled down to one game..Bad season, maybe, bad career there, remains to be seen..
Quote from: auballer on February 22, 2006, 10:10:51 AM
Featheredfriend, considering you are the former Rockford SID, you sure like to rip on a man that has done an unbelievable job in his tenure as RCs coach.
I don't know how you have any proof of that. The e-mail address is pretty generic, there's no real name attached to it.
Perhaps some proof would be appropriate rather than allegations.
dropkick11-
I don't disagree with you at all about the coach's career and what he has done with the program. We were only talking about the season at hand and my point was that - right or wrong - a coach is responsible for their team. It sucks when the "off court" detracts from the team, but ultimately coach's are held still held responsible. Again, I totally agree with you about the coach's career...but tend to disgree on your view on the current season.
"auballer"...keep guessing! And why do you care who the poster is anyway? Couldn't you find a way to express an inteligent argument on the discussion topic as "dropkick11" did? I mean, seriously, I've heard people speculate on who you really are and your relationship to the AU team...but I don't see how it's even relevant. Everyone has a right to their opinions and discuss them, correct?
Well, all things aside, what are the thoughts on the final four teams. I really think the NIIC tourney is up for grabs. Will home court advantage be the the determining factor? In 2003-2004 AU beat Eureka at home, RC at Rockford, and BU at Lisle. Could we have a 2005-2006 repeat?
Quote from: shingle on February 20, 2006, 09:50:15 PM
any predictions for Saturday's game at LC?
Any predictions for POY, ROY, All Conf?
ROY will probably be Schielle from EC. WLC has a lot of freshman on their team and will probably round out the rest of the All-Rookie team.
POY will be either Thill of LC or Mayyou from CUW. It all depends on who will win the tourney.
I will not make any predictions on the game. At this time, I feel it is to close to call.
PEACE
I think RC is really tough at home. It seems like they have good crowd support and a lot will depend on if everyone is healthy for them. But, I also think AU's Guise and Plucinski (hope I spelled it close!) are outstandng players who can take over the game...one way or another. That should be a great game. All things considered - AU has been hot & RC has not - lately, the Spartans should be favored.
Concordia does have a split with Benedictine and has that mental thing about beating a team (Clarke) that just knocked of the league's #1 team (RC). a couple days before...so I'd think you could toss out the previous scores in this game. I think Concordia's Coach Tills is a real program-builder and, from what I've seen, is very good at managing a game. Also, Sinclair is a real hard worker and does some nice things for the Cougars. Bottom line: If Benedictine's threes are dropping and if Curtis has a typical all-around good game, then BU is going to be tough to beat.
So, that was a long way of agreeing with you, auballer, on an AU-BU final for the women! ;D
Do you realize how young both BU's and AU's rosters are? There should be some great games in the future from those teams alone.
I am going with Rockford over Aurora and
Benedictine over Concordia.
Should be two good games.
I think the home-court will prove to be very important in both games, close games but home team prevails.
Interesting that you think Mayyou could be a Poy candidate but not a Roy candidate. She is a freshman right? Scheele has had a great season, but I still think you have to honor Mayyou for leading her team to the # 2 seed after being picked 5th in the preseason poll while averaging 16.8 ppg and 5.6 rpg in conf. Though Scheele did ave 15.8 and 9.8 in conf. I guess it is tough to ignore nearly averaging a double double.
In either case it will be great to watch the careers of these two over the next few years. If EC can keep their team harmonious and add a couple recruits they'll be on top soon. I'm sure CUW has something to look forward too if they can land a couple top prospects as well. They've got a great young team who works so hard. Hats off to both coaches for turning it up a notch the past two seasons.
Next year will be a very interesting year as this message board dies and gives way to the nac or what ever it finally becomes. CUW, EC, WLC, and LC are all in the same boat next year. LC probably has the most questions to answer with the departure of Thill. But all four are teams who with 1-3 impact recruits can compete with the other teams joining the league regardless of what the overall record was between the LMC and what's left of the NIIC this year.
I would agree with an LC win, Thill could garner POY. It would be tough to pass up the best player on the best team if LC would seal the deal. Mayyou supporters would have an argument if CUW could pull off the win on Saturday, but I think some out there would still vote for a senior 1000 pt scorer over the frosh at the end of the day.
I think some folks in Milwaukee also may be rooting for the engineering candidate, Chappell who only averaged 21 and 7.5. Not bad stats. Though she doesn't get much help on the scoring end from her own team, teams still double team her, put their best defender on her, push her around, and she still catches, elevates and finishes everytime she touches the ball.
Can Brunner win the COY? Is there another option besides Arvan and Brunner?
CURF @ RC for the Championship.
I might be jumping in on your conversation late, but RC coach must be a pretty crumby coach to go 20-6, win the regular season, and guide their team to the conference tournament championship game.
They did stumble a bit at the end, but respect the "season at hand."
Is there more behind the scenes that would make someone be so critical of Coach A?
I want to wish RC good luck this Saturday against Concordia.
Being a RC alum and former assistant under Bob I support him fully. He is an outstanding coach who has a great deal of integrity. Does everything go perfect in a life as a coach? I was first with him when he had to rebuild a 70 game loser who could barely field a five person team his first year. In his second season we played and won a game with 3 players at the end of overtime. I remember the frustrations from a loss at home in overtime where the team committed forty plus turnovers. I remember the jubiliation we felt when we crushed Clarke College the reining champ in his third season. Now all he has done is win 20 plus games every year. Do you think he really wanted to lose Dorman after recruiting her so hard? I know he thoroughly enjoyed watching her play and spoke highly of her. I feel badly for them both. Things happen and it is over. Bob is a class coach and individual who has a great deal of integrity. He deserves better from RC. If he were given the tools other coaches were he would be able to concentrate even more on coaching. I would like to commend him for a terrific job and I hope everyone at RC truly appreciates the job he has done. I do not get the chance to speak with him about basketball any more and I miss our great give and take of the game in general.
being a rc alum on the basketball team too, i can see what the girls are going through. he is a great "basketball" coach, but i wouldn't go as far as saying he is a great coach overall. i have heard some of the things the current team players say and it is pretty negative. i can list at least 8 alums who have played for him in the past that feel the same way..... good basketball coach, but not so good with the individuals on the team. we all wanted to quit before the season was over. yes, recruit talent and that makes you a better coach, but can you keep the team interested in you respectfully???? hasnt happened yet...
rc has a strong team and they will play strong even though there are "problems" with this year's team. good luck!
Maybe you wanted to quit because you were a bunch of whiny girls. Just think of what players have to go through in Pat Summits program. Things she says or does would make a d3 player cry for mommy. But hey, she is the best coach in the history of womens basketball.
So, the meaner and nastier the coach is, the better the coach is? I don't get it. Where is the respect these days? So let me get this straight: It is the coach's right nowadays to belittle, scream, and yell at his/her player? And then the player, in return, is supposed to idolize and respect this person who is screaming and yelling at them? If a player disrespects his/her coach in return, I don't ask "why", I ask "why not"? Respect is earned, not demanded!!!!
OH, and one last thing........hoopin wrote a very nice message regarding Coach A and I have to agree with most of what she said. My question is:
When Coach spoke very highly of Dorman, was Dorman anywhere around to hear him say those things? People tend to compliment people to OTHER people, but not to the person themselves. I want to know, hat did Coach A say to Dorman behind closed doors when no one else was around to hear him say it?
Mean and nasty do not go in the same sentence with Bob. In fact I thought when I first started coaching with him he was TOO nice. I was the yeller and screamer. I know some girls didn't like me. That's life not everybody is going to like you or the way you do things. Thick skin is a great ingredient of every coach. Geno, Pat, Coach K I guarantee you will find disgruntled former players from their past. All these coaches care for their players including Bob. Bob wants his players to like him and he is the first one to give players the credit. Coaches lay out a game plan, players either follow, lead or become disgruntled like bb23. A coach has roles for everyone on the team whether they like it or not. I once thought I was a superstar too but their are lead actors and supporting ones as well. It took me awhile to figure that one out too. Critisicm is sometimes deserved and whether one takes it well obviously plays a huge factor in his/her success. I wish I could take my knowledge now and rewind my playing days. It gives you great perspective as a coach to see all these people trying to swallow pride at an age where emotions swell on a daily basis. Everyone is entitled to opinion. I once hated my high school coach who is in the top 20 in all time wins in Illinois basketball. He berated, screamed and hollered his way in my earhole. You will find plenty of players who disliked him. As I have grown as a person I now realize he was the greatest coach I have ever known. He pushed me to achieve my very best which I know thats what Bob wants from everyone of his players albeit his own coaching philosophy.
Let me clarify--When I said "mean and nasty" I was replying to the posting before mine; au baller calling b23baller "whiney".
I wasn't referring to any coach in particular at all, until my second posting.
Here is my problem with athletics in general. The communication skills between coach and player are PATHETIC. Everyone, and I mean everyone, needs to read a book on how to communicate effectively
and learn how to LISTEN instead of talk. No one is listening at all!!!!
Let's go back to b23baller and her comments. What she said is very important. A coach needs to do 2 things 1) be the best basketball coach he/she can be and ultimately, win as many games as possible and 2) deal with each and every player on an individual basis. What she then went on to say was that Coach A was
very effective at point #1, but point #2 needed work.
Immediately, auballer came back and called her "whiney", which is what happens when players complain about the treatment they receive from the coach. Does the player have no rights at all? I have seen players be verbally abused by their coach time and time again, and somehow over the years this has become totally acceptable. The player is told to
"suck it up and take it", when in reality, this is verbal abuse. Does the coach go home and talk to his wife and kids this way? I certainly hope not. So why does a coach get away with this type of behavior? Because he/she can. No player is going to speak up because of fear of 1)being benched or kicked off the team or 2)being called whiney or 3)feeling like it is a waste of time because the coach isn't going to understand what the player is trying to say because he/she is NOT listening.
Idea: What is that old saying? There is strength in numbers? If one player takes a stand, it may not change anything, but if the WHOLE team speaks up as a unit, maybe, just maybe, the coach will listen.
The fans are out of control, the parents are out of control, the coach, and yes, the players get attitudes also. I'm tired of it. I thought Div 3 would be better then Div 1, but it isn't, it is the same old, same old, and it is getting worse.
I am not going to change the world of sports here, but what I can do is try and communicate my thoughts and feelings effectively. Take it or leave it.
I'm glad that Coach A was a great influence on you, I really am, but not everyone has that same warm, fuzzy feeling. Are you right and they are wrong? Beats the heck out of me!!!
And now, for something relevant for our conference to celebrate...
Rockford College won a Pool B bid to the NCAA Tournament!
Awesome job coaches and players at RC. Congrats on your tourney selection! Good luck at Wheaton!
to hoopin: I think it is great that you were able to have such great times at RC coaching under Coach A. You were on a different level than an athlete and therefore, he treated you different. I do know that you saw ans still do see what goes on behind the gym walls (if you still talk with some of the girls) - I like that you are very positive, but in reality - the girls feel like they are treated "wrong." Yes, I will say it again - he is a great basketball coach, and good luck in the tournanment, but the girls are playing because they love the game - and playing for him dos not matter. Mybe they will wake up later in life as you did and come to like his style, but I KNOW that most will NOT. Now you are greatful for your high school coach becuase he pushed you to be your best, but there are different ways of going about pushing the team. You don't have to treat them disrespectfully by playing head games. And to answer auballer - yes, many of us wanted to quit because of lack of respect, but we loved the game and wanted to play. Hoopsville, you are right - we should have communicated "more effectively" but during that time it was difficult for whatever reason. I would expect a coach to have a little more respect for individuals on the team.
Congratulations to the Rockford College basketball program, team, and staff.
B23-Baller:
I had an opportunity to watch the Rockford news on Saturday night after the game. One of the teams seniors was interviewed and she stated that: The team stuck together, did things the right way, followed the rules and coach said it was always be worth it....and then she stated "it was DEF worth it". Sometimes, you have to follow the standards set by a coach to be successful. I am also a believer that to get respect, you must give respect. Earlier in posting up-you stated "don't want to play for a short... short... man", Now that sounds like a pretty respectful thing to say, doesn't it? If you or the girls wanted to quit, then maybe you should have quit. A team is usually better off when you cut the cancer. Just because maybe you didn't get the playing time you wanted or had other issues with the team, doesn't mean the coach didn't respect you.
If a coach was having problems with respect/chemistry then there is no way a team would win 21 games, conference, and a bid to the tourney. Just because you have a bitter taste in your mouth because of whatever happened doesn't mean you have to rain on Rockford's parade. It is easy to blame the coach for unhappiness but maybe you should look at yourself. I am sure the girls that stuck it out and pulled together (instead of trying to pull each apart) are happy about playing in the DANCE. Good luck in the tourney!
Congratulations to the Rockford College women for returning to the big dance. What a great accomplishment, especially for all of you seniors who have had such a great run at RC, I know how hard you all have worked, you should be proud of all of your achievements. I haven't been able to follow you as closely as I would like, but looking at the posts I was shocked to see all of the criticism of Coach Amsberry. I know that with the nature of these boards and the relative anonimity of the opinions that it is easy to take shots and speculate at situations, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I thought it would only be fair to post some positive comments and support for Coach Amsberry. I had the chance to coach for and learn from Coach and anyone who was with RC when I was there knows exactly who I am from my screen name. Caoch Amsberry is the best coach I have ever had the chance to work with and in my time there he always treated all of his players fairly. Did he treat everyone the same, no, of course not, he tried to handle each player individually and provide them with the support and discipline they needed to be successful. The one thing that always stayed constant, and I cant imagine has changed, is that he was always open and honest with his players. Coach doesn't need me to defend him, he has an unbeliveable record and what he has done with this program speaks for itself, but I did think some more positive should come out to balance some of these shots coach is taking. Despite the bumps in the road this year, sounds like another great season, congratulations to the coaches and regent players on another great year, now go out there and add to your accomplishments with an NCAA tourney W. Good luck and go get 'em!
Mark Twain was quoted as saying, "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt" I think when Mark Twain said this, he probably didn't have the internet in mind. However, it does seem appropo with regard to the recent postings on D3Hoops.
Good or bad, one of the things that the internet does is it allows people to express opinions. However, the bad part of this is that people can randomly express ignorant opinions about people that are very untrue, unfair, and hurtful. What has been taking place with regard to the stupid statements regarding Bob Amsberry is a classic example of irresponsible opinions being stated
without any accountability. Maybe, Mark Twain, was thinking of the internet.....
First of all, there are stupid comments written about Coach Amsberry with regard to the implication that he yells and screams and berates players, etc. That would be funny, if it were not for that fact that it is so ridiculous, untrue, and is an attack on the character of a good man. As one of the other posters mentions, Bob does NOT yell and scream. If you look at the past several years where his teams have done very well and gone to the NCAA tourney, he is usually relatively laid back with regard to his practice, sideline, and off the court behavior. He treats all his players with dignity and respect. The fact is that Coach Amsberry is honest with everyone he deals with. That is a wonderful quality, but one that many immature and selfish players don't like. Many players say they want a coach to be honest with them, but when the coach is honest and tells them the truth, and it is something they don't want to hear, then the players get upset. It is a "blame the messenger" quality that is entirely unfair.
Second, there are the ignorant comments from a "former player" implying that there is this high level of dissatisfaction with his interactions with his players off the court. What a joke. His players who are willing to sacrifice and be a part of something special and not be "me oriented" very much appreciate him as a caring person who tries and helps his players in any manner possible. If the number of players coming and talking to Coach Amsberry in his office throughout the day about day to day issues and concerns is any indication, he is VERY well respected and admired by his players. To make the statement that there are "eight" or so other players who feel the same way is a statistically stupid statement. When a program goes from not winning to becoming very successful (which by the way, they did win another conference championship, NCAA bid, and 20 win season), there are going to be players that are not good enough to play as much as what they want. That is called competition, and that is what athletics (at D1, D2, D2, or any other level of significant competion) is all about. Not everyone can play, and that is simply a fact. In basketball, there are 5 players on the court at one time. Well, most teams have 10-15 players on a roster. Almost everyone one of those players that is not playing wants to be playing and probably feels they should be playing. The fact is, that players often are not objective about their own level of ability, and coaches have to make hard decisions. As a coach or leader of any group, you can't make everyone happy. 15 players can't play at one time. EVERY good program in the country has players leave/quit for different reasons, and if one were going to ask these players why, they probably would not have wonderful things to say about their former respective program. To say there are 8 players unhappy is kind of funny. When you become good, those players that aren't talented enough or dedicated and willing to sacrifice for the betterment of the team are going to be unhappy. Any program that was bad and has become good program SHOULD have 8 players that have become unhappy. Does that mean that every program is therefore inherently bad. Hardly. What it means is that competition in sport is a lesson in life. Sometimes things don't go the way we want. In order to be successful in life, if things don't go the way we want, we can't quit, whine, and place the blame on someone else. Rather, we need to be mature enough to pick ourselves up and try harder. Blaming a coach is the easy way out in our "scapegoat and pass the blame society". If someone wants to live their life always blaming others, that is their right. However, it is NOT right to make Bob Amsberry a scapegoat. He is an excellent coach, but much more importantly, he is a good and decent human being who is being made a scapegoat because a small group of players, parents, SIDS, etc. can't handle the fact that maybe they need to look in the mirror if they are wanting someone to blame..... Let's celebrate his team's and his success and celebrate the players who were and are willing to give of themselves for the betterment of the team! There is a reason why fellow coaches so respect what he has done with his program and admire the fact that he competes with dignity and grace.
With that being said, good luck against Wheaton!!!!!!
I just got on this site to check to see who Rockford was playing in the tournament and I'm shocked at most of the comments made about Coach Amsberry. I just wonder if Rockford wasn't successful at all and they were still losing a record number of games if you would be using such harsh words against him. But with success comes ridicule, too bad thats the way the world works. This coach has turned around a program that noone wanted to coach. I have been on both sides of the table and can tell you that he is an honest man with integrity and will fight for what he believes in even if it costs him wins or conference titles. He doesnt only coach for the wins, he coaches because he genuinely cares about his players and he understands that there is more to life than basketball. It's too bad that more people don't understand that his job is to put the best players on the floor to win, not to make parents happy or make sure everyone plays equal time. It's a hard job and he's an amazing, talented coach who knows the game. Remember also that HE is coaching girls, all girls have lots of issues and he does a great job of dealing with them. Sometimes your going to butt heads, most of the time its because people can't handle decisions that are being made. RC hired a great coach let him do his job and support the coaches and the team win or lose, because the players still play the game.
Good Luck RC!
So whats your thoughts on the Rockford (21-6) @ Wheaton (23-4)??
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Amsberry leaves Rockford for Wartburg, and not a word here? I'd chastise this board for apathy, but I just don't care enough.
He got the job a few days ago....I dont know if no one knew or what..no announcement on Rockfords site...it was kind of quiet...weird
Thought it was time for a new title................... any favorites? Will the LMC teams dominate this one or will the addition of RC, BU, and AU make a difference?
I expect the Illinois squads to do quite well. (It was a 5 team dog-fight between Lakeland, Edgewood, Concordia WI, WLC and Marian College for most of last season in conference. MSOE, Dominican, Alverno and Maranatha Baptist finished on the low end.) Barring injuries, last minute transfers, etc, with Lakeland losing several players and Edgewood and Dominican having new coaches, I'd expect Concordia WI, Marian and WLC to challenge for the top spot---on paper-but it's still too early to tell.
WLCALUM83
There was also a coaching change at Rockford so that should be an interesting situation imo. I'm curious to see how Aurora will compete as I think that some of the Illinois squads may have more athletic rosters.
Edgewood appears to be losing only 2 seniors to graduation--don't know about Dominican--even with Rockford's coaching change it appeared that squad would have most of its' players back. Appears Lakeland's the only squad that lost a lot of players to graduation. Most of the other teams in conference could have nearly all of their players back. WLC didn't lose anyone to graduation.
If the new IL teams are as athletic as Dominican's men's team was last season (it beat WLC's men twice), that will add even more fuel to the potential dogfight.
Edgewood actually lost 3 to graduation- and with the change some players will not be returning including Ewing, Mueller, Matya, & potentially Francois. Marian loses key players every year and Lakeland's recruiting class will be key if they wish to remain close to the top. Dominican had a great hire in their new coach and I expect some good things from them in the years to come.
I checked out the former EC coach's new gig. She's in an extremely talented conference with quite the program to rebuild. Best of luck to her as she moves onward. Coach Amsberry also has his work cut out for him at Wartburg as it's the weakest they've been in years. Best of luck to him as well.
I stand corrected. Francois was a good 3-point shooter for Edgewood. Marian got hot late last season and knocked WLC out of the playoffs before being shut down by Lakeland. I hope WLC has some freshmen coming in. The additional depth would be a bonus.
See how this passes for an "All-Name LMC-NAC" team (mostly basketball)
Kim (007) Bond--Maranatha-- (3 point threat during her playing days)
Courtney Femling-MSOE--star player
Melissa Fleming-Dominican (try saying "Femling vs. Fleming" 10 times fast-a broadcaster's tongue-twister).
Janelle Lydell--WLC (no joke) point guard on team that went to Nationals in 1999-2000. (Has a ring to it, anyway).
Amber Nero--Concordia (softball): Has she per chance heard of Jim Rome? (I won't go any further with that one).
(Drum rim-shots/tomato throws optional. I can hear the Jimmy Durante keyboard music playing as I'm being dragged off the stage with a cane.)
That's pretty good.........the only one I might add to that is another recent player from WLC - Kami Ten Pas
There are 2 others I could put on for a little bit of depth:
Lea Colon-Alverno: point guard (perfect for grammar and punctuation afficionados.)
Chris DemoGiorgias-Dominican: center (rebounder/shot-blocker).
I realize it'd be a roster loaded with guards, but the 3 or 4 more names I could add are for players way out of region.
Any news on Lakeland recruits? I saw one was posted in the recruiting news a while back, but haven't heard of any since. They need to reload!
Noticed Rockford stayed "in house", moving one of their assistants to the top spot. Barring injury the Regents' women's team shouldn't miss a beat if everyone comes back. ;) (Illinihoops4, was this what you referred to on 8/10? It just showed up on the NAC website today. (/url] (http://www.northernathleticsconference.com)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on August 29, 2006, 09:58:43 AM
Noticed Rockford stayed "in house", moving one of their assistants to the top spot. Barring injury the Regents' women's team shouldn't miss a beat if everyone comes back. ;) (Illinihoops4, was this what you referred to on 8/10? It just showed up on the NAC website today. (/url]
(http://www.northernathleticsconference.com)
Yes, that's what I was referring too. I don't really think it was a great hire, but we'll see. Any pre season news? From any team? Surely someone knows something by now!
Well I expect that the Illinois schools from the NIIC will make things competitive...Concordia (WI), WLC should be tough from the old LMC...Concordia(Il), Aurora should do well...Watch out for Dominican because the old coach there had a strong recruiting class(at least I heard that he had 10 new players) so they could surprise as could Benedictine...
Is Dominican's starting center coming back?
From what I know she is coming back..She will be a senior this year..And they have a bout 3 good post recruits from good programs in Illinois and one from Arizona I heard this summer..also a super quick pair of guards from that are small from Illinois(5'2")...I know the former coah there and he did a great job recruiting last year..too bad he ddin't get to see this team together. the new coach suhould consider herself lucky cuz most times when you start a new job the cupboard is kinda bare..
A little more fuel to add to the potential dogfight. 8)
After catching a few games last season I don't think their center had too much of an impact on some of the top teams in the conference. If she's improved over the off season it may be a different story. They had a pretty good three point shooter that kept many games closer than they may have been and Koziol (sp?) was decent. Unless any of their recruits are impact players I don't see DU climbing the ladder too quickly this season.
My pre-pre-season favorite is Concordia Wisconsin.
centilbball:
Here are my pre pre-season women's basketball picks:
1 Concordia, WI
2 Benedictine
3 Concordia, Chicago
4 WLC
5 Lakeland
6 Rockford
7 Aurora
8 Edgewood
9 Marian
10 Alverno
11 Dominican
12 Maranatha Baptist
Here's my early picks without knowing much about recruits etc for this season:
1. CUW
2. Aurora
3. Lakeland
4. Rockford
5. Benedictine
6. Marian
7. WLC
8. Concordia Illinois
9. Edgewood
10. Alverno
11. Dominican
12. MBBC
Sources tell me that Maranatha may be ready to make another run like they did a couple of years ago. My prediction: 6th place.
More power to the Crusaders. C Goff and A Lange could use more scoring support. Last season I caught their LMC play-in game win over Alverno and MBBC only had 8 or 9 players available. Had it not been for Amber Lange's clutch free-throw shooting toward the end, things may have turned out differently. 8)
Just to inform, the Rockford coach has resigned. They now have a grad assistant running the team who is in his first year, with no other assistant named yet. The athletic teams other than football are in sad shape, a far cry from what they have been. The women's soccer program was outscored 174-8 on the 14 game season, that's correct, 174 soccer goals given up. The men's program was dropped after begining the year with 8 players. They need to get their house back in order and soon, as we all know how recruiting goes in D3 if your program is weak...
Sorry to hear that. Not to go negative on Alverno, but you know it's rough when even the Inferno scores 14 goals against you. I'm more shocked about the basketball team. Didn't the Regent women make Nationals just last season? (and I thought they'd have virtually everyone back this season--), :-X ???
what are the predictions for the upcoming season???
how are the teams looking so far?
Two things, very unclassy of former Rockford Coach to fire his assistants at Wartburg just a week before practice was to begin. He's been there since April - he should have had that figured out. I thoroughly understand the coaching carousel, but then Nestor resigns at Rockford less about what-4-5 days before practice starts? To go back to being an assistant? If he wasn't ready for a head job he shouldn't have applied.
That being said, Rockford could have a rough and tumble year with an inexperienced coach and recruiting could potentially go down hill this season from them. Which brings me to my next question- are the rumors true and if so, how long until Rockford goes under?
First of all, the rumours are true. These have been out there for the last couple years. They have some financial difficulty. If you have watched the situation closely you will see that many staff members have been leaving. Like rats off a sinking ship. As far as the new coach resigning, maybe he saw that writing on the wall...Strong programs start from the top, finances, etc. and maybe he didn't see the support you need. Finally, Amsberry firing his assistant is typical. The guy has a Napolean complex and that is his way of showing who is boss..
Wow! Talk about a quick turnaround! One year nationals--the next--that! Not very pleasant!What a kick in the teeth! :-[ ??? ::) :-[ :-[ :-[ ???
I have watched the turnover in coaches at Rockford and have heard of students not getting their refundable housing deposits back when they chose not to live on campus as the school needs the cash. Also know that one of the reasons the former men's bball coach left was because the school wouldn't pay their bills. It's an unfortunate situation for those students involved. My personal opinion was that Nestor was a very questionnable hire in the first place. As for Amsberry- I don't care what complex he has- it's an unclassy move- especially when you strong those assistants on for months and then right before practice starts - you smack them up side the head.
As for Rockford's past success- they put a talented group together, but after looking through past season's schedules, anyone could have a twenty win season playing against the majority of the teams they played against.
Kami Ten Pas is back for WLC this year. ;)
That's a plus for WLC :)
After looking at the coach's poll it looks like all are in agreement that CUW is the team to beat. With Edgewood's #'s down I think they'll fall further down the line. I think AU is the team to keep an eye on to shake things up at the top. They scrimmaged pre-season #5 Wheaton this week and hung with them.
Quote from: libero on October 22, 2006, 08:40:44 AM
Sources tell me that Maranatha may be ready to make another run like they did a couple of years ago. My prediction: 6th place.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 22, 2006, 11:04:38 AM
More power to the Crusaders. C Goff and A Lange could use more scoring support. Last season I caught their LMC play-in game win over Alverno and MBBC only had 8 or 9 players available. Had it not been for Amber Lange's clutch free-throw shooting toward the end, things may have turned out differently. 8)
Just checked Maranatha's 06-07 WBB roster and found out A-- there are
17 players on it and B-- Kim Bond (yes,
that Kim Bond, the 3 point-threat) is also listed on it. Libero, isn't it nice to have sources in agreeable places? ;) ;) :D :D
Bond back in a basketball uniform??? :o
The rest of the conference better look out. She has the ability to make them a very dangerous team!
I second that. Season before last, MBBC knocked WLC out of the LMC playoffs, 76-72, and beat the Warriors earlier that season, 88-85 in OT. She was a big factor in both of those games.
I actually did not know that 007 was back in uniform. . .I had just heard about severall outstanding recruits and a couple of decent returning upperclassmen. If Bond is back and is anywhere near where she was a couple of years ago. . .the 'Saders might make a lot of noise. . I bet some coaches would have changed their preseason rankings.
2 years ago 'Natha had a dangerous combo in Bond and Michaelson. Bond's a fantastics shooter, but Michaelson did the dirty work. If they've got someone that can step in and fill the void that was her- they'll make a lot of noise.
Friday is almost here and I'm looking forward to the majority of teams tipping off. Finally! :D ;D
I just visited Maranatha's website............Bond isn't listed.......... now I am curious to where this info came from......
Quote from: Illinihoops4 on November 15, 2006, 10:37:29 PM
I just visited Maranatha's website............Bond isn't listed.......... now I am curious to where this info came from......
Either her name was just removed or I may have looked at a different list by mistake. I stand corrected regardless. :-[ ;)
Same as a previous question...I read that CU was chosen to be the top dog. LC second....what are the thoughts of the masses out there?
Quote from: crazy4hoops on October 31, 2006, 12:32:12 PM
what are the predictions for the upcoming season???
how are the teams looking so far?
Quote from: borderjumper on November 16, 2006, 08:25:37 AM
Same as a previous question...I read that CU was chosen to be the top dog. LC second....what are the thoughts of the masses out there?
The dialogue you guys are looking for can now be found on the
Northern Athletics Conference board. :) :) :) ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D 8) 8) 8)
She is not out for the team. She is still in school, but will get married in the next month. Doubtful that she will ever make a return at this point.
Heard WLC's women won their opener last night, beating Concordia-Ann Arbor (will get Greenville later today.) ;)
Final just in: WLC women 82, Greenville 51. ;)
Edgewood shocks #24 Carroll :o Great win for the Eagles. They weren't able to hang with UW-Stout though. It could be a tough year for EC with the thin roster.
Quote from: Illinihoops4 on November 19, 2006, 12:52:25 AM
Edgewood shocks #24 Carroll :o Great win for the Eagles. They weren't able to hang with UW-Stout though. It could be a tough year for EC with the thin roster.
Believe me, the 2005-06 Maranatha women's squad can relate on the thin roster issue. ::)
11/28 schedule:
WLC at Carthage
Carroll at Lakeland
Dominican at Beloit
Northland Baptist at Maranatha.
This poster's favorites:
Carthage
Carroll
Beloit
Maranatha
11/28 finals
Carroll 40, Lakeland 26
Beloit 73, Dominican, IL 61
Carthage 82, WLC 69
Maranatha 67, Northland Baptist 48.
Rockford gets Benedictine in NathCon in-conference action this evening. ;)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on November 29, 2006, 07:30:00 AM
Carroll 40, Lakeland 26
Ugh! I hope they handed out No-Doze at the door.
Yikes. The leading scorer for Lakeland had just 6 points................ I've seen better high school games this season. :-[
Was anybody at that game? Incredible score!??!
Wasn't there, but I read from Lakeland's press release that both teams shot poorly in the first half, and Carroll 's shooting improved more than that of the Muskies in the second.
Anyone see Aurora's Guise play yet? Even on a bad night I'm not sure there's a person in the league that can put the clamps on her. Keep an eye on this kid. Potential POY.
11/30 final: Edgewood 65, Dominican 54.
12/2 NathCon projections:
Aurora over Lakeland. (Muskies shooting woes over yet?)
Benedictine over Concordia-Chicago
Concordia, WI over Rockford
Maranatha over Edgewood :o ??? (Eagles have only 8 players available-if someone slows down Scheele, --interesting test for the Crusaders' new players.)
Marian over Alverno (if the Inferno have some inside scoring punch to take pressure off Ambrial Miller,--)
WLC over Dominican (the Warriors have been getting balanced scoring in their wins--still will need to be on their game, after what the Stars almost did to Edgewood.)
12/02 Finals:
Lakeland 65, Aurora 54 (Boehm came up big for the Muskies).
WLC 83, Dominican 69 (Warriors were hitting from outside in 2nd half). :) ;) :D
12/02 Final #3
Concordia-WI 74, Rockford 48
Other 12/2 finals:
Edgewood 73, Maranatha 55 (per MBBC site).
Benedictine 67, Concordia-Chicago 62 (per Benedictine site)
And the "rout of the day" award goes to Marian:
Marian 77, Alverno 27 :o ??? (Inferno held to 15% FG shooting.) per Marian site.
BTW, Marian blew out Silver Lake 82-19 in their previous game--Per NathCon site the Sabers were picked to finish 9th in conference--granted it's still early. :-\ :-\ :-X :-X
I don't think that either of those Marian games say much about that squad. Alverno is a bottom 2/3 team in the league and Silver Lake has really dropped off over the years. If you want an wasy win- schedule them because they are always looking for games. He also has an incredibly large turnover in players. If he can keep the kids on his team through Christmas they may have a shot to finish higher.....I'll be keeping my eye on them!
12/05 game projections:
Concordia, WI over Alverno (Falcons simply appear to have too many weapons--on paper.)
Concordia-Chicago over Lakeland (Too close to call, the Cougars are at home.)
Edgewood over Marian (The Sabers keep it close until midway thru 2nd half, but if Edgewood stays out of foul trouble, the Eagles should prevail.)
Aurora over WLC. (Aurora hungry for a win after losing to Lakeland).
To stay consistent, in non-conference: Benedictine over Elmhurst. (If I eat crow, I eat crow). ;)
Concordia-WI 81, Alverno 38 Final
Edgewood 77, Marian 57 Final.
Final just in: Aurora 75, WLC 67. :( (Per the little this poster took in of WLC's post-game account, Guise was held 6 points below her average, (due to foul trouble) but the Spartans got off to a fast start and the Warriors made a couple of runs but couldn't get over the hump.
Non-conference final per Benedictine's site:
Benedictine 81, Elmhurst 45.
Lakeland 60, Concordia-Chicago 50 (per Lakeland web-site).
A Maranatha follower posted this final on the Men's Board:
MBBC 67, Dominican 66. (That's a win Maranatha's younger players in particular can build on. ;)
A nice win for 'Natha. This young team have talent, but will struggle with consistency.
Well I would prefer to say bad loss for DU...The girls at DU have more talent than thay are showing...Play some Defense ladies...You cannot give up the huge point totals you ahve ain a lot of games and expect to win
12/9 Projections:
Aurora over Maranatha
Edgewood over Alverno
Concordia-WI over Benedictine
WLC over Concordia-Chicago
Lakeland over Rockford
Marian over Dominican
Shifted to WLC/CU-Chicago, Warriors up by 10 with about 4 1/2 minutes left.
Final: WLC 74, Concordia-Chicago 58. :) ;) :D
Good Warrior outside shooting late, and overall balanced scoring, as well as being able to break the Cougar press--all keys to the win, per WLC post-game account.
12/9 Final #2: CUW 76, Benedictine 59. ???
(thought this one would have been closer).
3 more 12/9 finals:
Aurora 83, Maranatha 66
Marian 81, Dominican 66. (Marian had 31 points off turnovers--per box score.)
Lakeland 41, Rockford College 40.
(Edgewood/Alverno yet to come in.)
12/9 Final:
Edgewood 74, Alverno 28. :-X :-X :-X
12/11 projection: Carthage over Edgewood. (Putting my head over my heart on this one).
Final: Carthage 65, Edgewood 53. :-X
Per Carthage post-game account, M Scheele was held 11 points below her scoring average.
12/12 Final: Concordia-Chicago 71, Maranatha 43 (per MBBC website):
12-13 non-conference final:
UW-Platteville 79, Edgewood 50. (Per box score, Platteville outshot Edgewood 50% to 28%). M Scheele was held to approx. half her scoring average again.
I see a pattern here. . ..
12/15-16 projections:
Maranatha over Rockford (Crusaders are at home. This one will be close.)
Dominican over Alverno (Inferno have been doused big-time of late. They'll be in this one--even more so if Miller comes up big).
Aurora over Edgewood.
Benedictine over Lakeland (Muskie scoring has either come up big or rarely shown up of late. Rockford gave them a good run for their money.
Concordia WI over WLC :( (Should the Falcons come out flat, the Warriors have more of a chance, but Concordia's got too many weapons on offense).
Come on, Warriors, make this poster eat his crow with a smile! :) ;) :D
Me thinks it is official. No one else besides WLCalum gives two @#$%s. Well at least not enough to post, myself included. I must say though I do check the board daily for WLC's picks, projections, and score updates. So keep up the good work! Maybe the rest of us will catch on eventually.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 15, 2006, 10:32:02 AM
12/15-16 projections:
Maranatha over Rockford (Crusaders are at home. This one will be close.)
Dominican over Alverno (Inferno have been doused big-time of late. They'll be in this one--even more so if Miller comes up big).
Aurora over Edgewood.
Benedictine over Lakeland (Muskie scoring has either come up big or rarely shown up of late. Rockford gave them a good run for their money.
Concordia WI over WLC :( (Should the Falcons come out flat, the Warriors have more of a chance, but Concordia's got too many weapons on offense).
Come on, Warriors, make this poster eat his crow with a smile! :) ;) :D
MBBC over Rockford - RC interim coach is a Maranatha grad. . .interesting
Dom over Alverno - of course, the question is, will Alverno break 20 points
Edgewood over AU - a little upset, but Edge has it in them
Lakeland over Ben - don't know why
WLC over ConcW - WLC is better than people think
12/15 Final:
Rockford 76, Maranatha 61. :o ??? (Per Rockford's press release, Regent women shot 50% from 3-point range.)
Alverno/Dominican yet to come in.
Rockford gets WLC women next--middle of next week. :-X :-\
12/15 Final: Dominican 71, Alverno 59.
Per Dominican box score:
Alverno had 3 players in double figures, Dominican at least 4. (Inferno's Miller 4-10 from field).
Stars outshot Inferno 52% to 33% per box score.
Tomorrow this poster finds out if Edgewood (thin roster and all) can pull an upset on Aurora. :o ???
Maranatha and Rockford were tied 59-59 with under three minutes to go. Maranatha led most of the game although there were plenty of lead changes. During the last two minutes, the 'Saders imploded. I think they threw more passes to RC players than to their own teammates. #22 from Rockford was impressive. Maranatha has talent, but might be too young to win this year.
Final: Aurora 82, Edgewood 75. Missed FT's killed the Eagles, they were outshot from the charity stripe 74% to 54% per box score from Edgewood's site.
Final: WLC 60, Concordia, WI 42. :) ;) :D
(Thought this would be closer, given the Falcons were picked to win the conference).
Per CUW announcers the Falcons just plain came out flat and had a below average first-half.
Last 12/16 NAC Final:
Benedictine 62, Lakeland 48.
12/19 Final:
Concordia-Chicago 69, Marian 66.
Per Marian box score, CU-Chicago had nearly twice as many FT attempts as Marian (26 to 15, respectively).
Cougars had 5 players in double figures scoring-wise.
Non-Conference final:
Westminster 67, Concordia-WI 64 (Despite a 48-pt 2nd half, the Falcons still fall short).
Final: WLC improves to 4-1 in NathCon with a win over Rockford, 67-44. :o ??? 22-4 WLC scoring run did Regents in. (Didn't expect it to be that easy, with Rockford having knocked off Maranatha for one, and the Regents' slight height advantage on paper, for two.) Per announcers' post game accounts, Ten Pas and Laete came up big on the scoring end.
12/19 Final: Benedictine 70, Alverno 46.
Hey what happened to the "shaq" of the NCAC womens basketball at DU, Christine Demogirgas...She didn't play agaisnt Alverno and isn't on the current roster...Anyone know anything?
Non-conference final (12/20): Concordia-WI 58, Roger Williams 50. (RW had 2 starters foul out, CUW's Ensign also fouled out. Ruppe came up big offensively--rebounds and FT's---toward the end).
12/21 Non-conference final:
Benedictine 58, MSOE 57.
(Props to MSOE's C Chappell on reaching the 1,500 point milestone!) :) ;) :D :) ;) :D 8) 8) 8)
http://northernathleticsconf.com/sports/basketball_women/standings/ (http://northernathleticsconf.com/sports/basketball_women/standings/)
Given that WLC hasn't played Benedictine, Lakeland or Edgewood yet, I'd expect the Warriors to slip a few spots. Jury is out on Benedictine (one of that squad's better guards just got hurt). Concordia, WI, Lakeland, Aurora and Edgewood should move up. Marian also could be a factor. Too early to tell if more than one of these squads go to Nationals (will have to come darn close to running the table, given even the best teams have 3 losses already). :-X :-\ :-X :-\ :-X :-\ :-X :-\ :) ;) :D :) ;) :D
Final: Southwestern, TX 73, Concordia-Chicago 62. (Cougars 7-24 from FT line--had several more offensive rebounds--SW's overall depth may have eventually worn them down).
The Cougars' path (on paper) doesn't get any easier. They get ranked McMurry (and their star player Richardson) tomorrow.
Clarke College Tournament final: Mount Mercy 81, MSOE 60. :-X (Clarke site).
MSOE gets Tri-State tomorrow.
Another women's final.
Rockford beats Concordia-Ann Arbor, 63-53 in the Regents' own tournament. (per Regents' website.)
Final: McMurry, TX 76, CU-Chicago 57. McMurry got to the line almost twice as much, and the Cougars had a boatload of turnovers. They cut it down to 8 early in the second, but McMurry always answered with points of their own.
12/29 finals:
Tri-State 73, MSOE 69 per Clarke site. (MSOE"s Chappell become's Raider all-time leading scorer, TSU came from behind.)
North Park 62, Rockford College 52. per Rockford site. North Park outshot Rockford from the field, Regents had plenty of turnovers.
Whitman 29, WLC 20 at halftime.
Whitman beat WLC women by 12 points. Warriors had it down to 6 late, but could get no closer, were never really in sync offensively.
12/30 final:
Beloit 64, Lakeland 39 (Cold shooting and an early 11-2 Beloit run did the Muskies in, per Beloit web-site.)
WLC/Whitworth yet to come in:
Final: Whitworth 74, WLC 58. :( (Warrior women take the 0-fer out West.).
12/30 "leftover" final: MSOE 54, Clarke 53.
1/3/07 NathCon WBB projections:
Concordia-WI over Lakeland (Muskie's shooting to this point has been inconsistent--they could still win if CUW comes out flat after the Falcons' layoff.)
MSOE over Alverno. (MSOE's got a second player to help out Chappell scoring-wise in their wins-either Guthrie or another player). This poster doesn't think the Inferno's that much worse than last year, the 2 in-conference teams Alverno beat last season got that much better.
Final: Concordia-WI 66, Lakeland 53. (Mayyou 9-15 from floor, 22 pts.)
1/3/07 Non-Conference Finals:
MSOE 57, Alverno 45. (Per MSOE site: Raiders shot 74% in 2nd half to overcome a half-time deficit. Chappell and Jungbluth provided most of the scoring punch. Alverno 6-19 from FT line.) :-X :-X :-X
Benedictine 68, Judson 60, OT. (Per Judson site, Judson led most of regulation, but Benedictine hit several 3's in OT to put the game away).
1/05/07 Non-Conference Finals:
Dominican 85, Meredith 67. (Per box score off Meredith site, Dominican outscored Meredith 57-29 in 2nd half, and also out-rebounded Meredith 49-28).
Lakeland 67, Clarke 62. (Per Lakeland press release, Boehm had a 28-point night (11-16 shooting), Muskies shot 48% from the floor, (they've had much worse than that this season).
:) ;) :D :) ;) :D
1/06/07 projections:
Aurora over Marian: (Sabers can pull off the upset if they create enough turnovers and get enough points off them.)
Concordia-WI over Rockford; (Falcons' balance appears to be just a bit much for Rockford-if the Regents bring their "A" game and CUW comes out flat, the better Rockford's chances).
Benedictine over Concordia-Chicago (this figures to be the closest of the 3--Benedictine lost one of its' better guards to injury. The Cougars have been outrebounding opponents on the offensive glass, but they need to be more consistent on FT shooting and tighten up the D a bit.)
Final: Concordia-WI 54, Rockford College 46.
CUW: Ruppe and Ensign in double figures scoring.
Rockford: 2nd half scoring drought cost them. Angie Butler had to leave the game with 4 minutes left after being hit in the face during a scramble for a loose ball. Per CUW broadcasters, she was seen on the bench near the end of the game with an icepack underneath one eye. CUW's depth wore the Regents down as the game continued.
2 more 1/06/07 finals:
Marian 73, Aurora 61. :o ??? :o ??? (per Marian box score, Marian outshot Aurora from the field, and the Sabers had 35 points off turnovers, compared to 18 for the Spartans.)
Benedictine 73, Concordia-Chicago 72. (per Benedictine web site, Eagles won it on a Curtis put-back basket at the buzzer). :) ;)
Marian over Aurora??? Now I'm confused. I guess it just goes to show that anythingcan happen!
1/09/07 Projections:
Lakeland over Alverno:
Benedictine over WLC: (Eagles are hot-Warriors need to either shoot a bit better or crash the boards harder than they did out West).
Edgewood over Concordia-Chicago: (Too close to call-if Eagles get in foul trouble, Cougars could pull off mild upset).
Aurora over Dominican: (Spartans hungry for win after Marian knocked them off on the road).
Marian over Rockford: (Marian may shock more teams than Aurora yet).
Concordia-WI over Maranatha: (Falcons are on a good roll, which figures to continue.)
Took a quick look-in at CUW/Maranatha score: Falcons are winning big, 70-29 in 2nd half. :-X
Lakeland 59, Alverno 42--12 seconds left in game; (Lakeland outshot Alverno approx. 49% to 29% per box score off Muskie website).
Final: Concordia-Chicago 57, Edgewood 54. (CU-Chicago hit their free throws in the end.)
Edgewood's Kittoe set a record for most 3-pointers by an Eagle in her career--albeit in a losing cause.
Another final just in: WLC 68, Benedictine 59. :) ;) :D
Per WLC post-game account--Laete 24 pts. Lindert 10. WLC 21-6 run early in 2nd half put them ahead and then they hit their free-throws.
Next opponent: Lakeland--on the road.
MSOE women lose to U of Chicago at home 75-64. Raiders outrebounded 35-19 per box score off U of Chicago website:
Aurora wins big over Dominican, 71-50.
Marian defeats Rockford 69-59. (Rockford's Butler put in 22 minutes of playing time. Marian had 4 players in double figures led by Moody's 23 pts--Rockford site. Look out--Sabers are now 4-2 in conference and given their penchant for creating points off turnovers they may make even more noise yet.
1/11-13/07 NathCon Projections:
1/11: Benedictine over Clarke
1/13: Aurora over Alverno (Spartans figure to get back on track after losing to Marian).
Concordia-Chicago over Dominican (Cougars' last win gives them a bit of momentum).
Benedictine over Maranatha (How much can Goff & Lang keep urging the rest of the team??)
Edgewood over Rockford. (Would be surprised if Eagles lost 2 in a row at home.)
WLC over Lakeland :o ??? (One "X" factor for each side: Against Alverno, Lakeland Coach Arvan used more of her players than usual, felt she wasn't getting enough out of most of her starters at one point in the first half--has she found some more up-to-now unexpected secret weapons?? WLC's players are going in there with vengeance on their minds, wanting to make up for the 58-20 drubbing they took from the Muskies up there last season. This one's also too close to call.)
The 'Saders have no answers inside the paint, except for Goff. They lost their other post player to surgery over Christmas. They have young talent, but will continue to struggle until they shoot well from 3 pt land and the opposing team shoots 40%.
Is it "Would-be-all Blowout Day" in NathCon today? :o ??? ::) :o ??? ::)
Concordia-WI 54, Marian 34, midway thru 2nd.
WLC up 54-37 on Lakeland--10:30 left in 2nd. (Come on, Warriors!).
Edgewood up by 24 on Rockford College in 2nd.
Finals: Edgewood 62, Rockford College 39.
Concordia-WI 72, Marian 40. :o ??? (Knew the Falcons were hot, but wasn't expecting that!).
Concordia-IL 85, Dominican 56.
Aurora, IL 66, Alverno 44.
WLC 78, Lakeland 67 (The Muskie hex on the road has been stopped!).
Per Lakeland stats Warriors' Laete came up big scoring wise in 2nd half (27 pts total), Lindert also came up big off the bench with 16 points. WLC was 7-15 from 3-pt range and 19-20 from FT line).Muskies hung around, cut the lead to 9 late, but Warriors hit their free throws to seal it.
One last 1/13/07 final:
Benedictine 85, Maranatha Baptist 70.
Is it just me, or are the average scored higher on the women's side this season. It seems like most years in the past, all the scores were 50 something to 40 something. Any people out there who can drop some knowledge?
Just checked and compared the 05-06 scores and the 06-07 scores of the 4 IL squads that were combined with LMC, and found out that as far as in-conference scoring offense goes, the average was from Benedictine's 74 ppg to Concordia-Chicago's 65 ppg. in 05-06 and so far this season Aurora is tops at 70 ppg while Rockford College has been on the low end at 51 ppg,
In terms of scoring defense for in-conference games, in 05-06, the range was from Rockford College's 62 ppg allowed to Concordia-Chicago's 71 ppg allowed. So far this season, all 4 of those teams have been allowing 61-63 ppg.
(CUC's defense improved the most between last year and this year, and Rockford's offensive production dropped significantly, from 67 ppg to 51 ppg).
As far as the LMC teams, scoring offense between 05-06 and 06-07 so far (this is also in-conference) in 05-06 the average was from Concordia's 69 ppg to MBBC's 44 ppg. So far in 06-07, WLC's been on the high end (71 ppg avg) and Alverno on the low end (41 ppg). (The Inferno's scoring output has dropped 8 points on avg below last season, to this point. Most improved team on offense thus far as far as increased scoring output is--believe it or not a tie between MBBC and WLC--the Crusaders output increased from 44 ppg to 57 ppg so far, while WLC's output went from 58 ppg in 05-06 to 71 ppg this season.
MSOE's avg in 05-06 was 61 ppg, just by looking at their output so far this season, that's dipped some--they've played anyone from UW Stevens Point to Finlandia. (They're cited as an "x" factor).
Scoring defense in 05-06 for LMC teams for in-conference ranged from Lakeland's 44 ppg allowed to Maranatha's 65 ppg allowed. So far in 06-07 the range is Concordia-WI's 48 ppg allowed to Maranantha's 76 ppg allowed .
In short, yes, the average women's scores (for the LMC teams) have been higher this season.
So. . .not a huge trend, but definitely higher. I just can't seem to remember many women's games where the losing team scored 70. Thanks for doing the research.
I don't suppose that has anything to do with the faster pace of play that I've seen :D Quicker tempo=more possessions. It's a good thing though. Too match up with teams in stronger conferences the NAC is going to have to get stronger.
Quote from: Illinihoops4 on January 14, 2007, 10:04:20 PM
I don't suppose that has anything to do with the faster pace of play that I've seen :D Quicker tempo=more possessions. It's a good thing though. Too match up with teams in stronger conferences the NAC is going to have to get stronger.
Couldn't agree with you more on that one. Witness the 19 pt. loss Concordia-Chicago took against ranked McMurry of Texas, and WLC's losing by some 35 points or so to WIAC power UW-Stevens Point. Not a bash-knock, just meant to indicate a yard-stick to go by. Still too early to tell, given NathCon's status whether any NathCon women's teams will see post-season play beyond the conference tournament. (Someone may have to win out and hope. Concordia-WI per chance???). :-X :-\ :-X :-\
Another factor to figure in--look at a team like Edgewood--only 8 or 9 players available per game, as compared to Concordia-WI or Marian or even WLC which uses 8 players but has 12 available. How handy is the extra depth going to be down the stretch? :) ;)
1/15-17/07 NathCon projections:
1-15: (Non-conference) Maranatha over Moody (and the win will feel like a gallon of water to a thirsty man whose been on a long walk thru a desert.)
1-16: Lakeland over Maranatha: (If the Muskies' Boehm has an off game inside, the Crusaders have a better chance.)
1-17: WLC over Alverno: (Be careful, Warriors, don't take this team lightly, you need to keep pace with Concordia, WI).
Aurora over Concordia-Chicago;
Marian over Benedictine (home game for Sabers, want to get back on track after CUW blew them out).
Rockford over Dominican: (Regents have a bit more punch offensively.)
Concordia-WI over Edgewood: (Falcons' roll continues--).
1/15/07 Final: Maranatha 81, Moody Bible 62. (MBBC's entire squad got some valuable playing time.)
(BTW, this just in--thought I'd mention CU-Chicago's Atoi Sinclair reached the 1,000 point mark for her playing career!). :) ;) :D 8) 8) 8)
Congrats to Atoi. . .
Continuing in that vein - one of Moody's players scored 40 of her teams 42 points against Maranatha last night.
Final just in per Maranatha's web site:
Lakeland 60, Maranatha 47. (And apparently it was much closer than that for most of the game.)
(Now watch, the Crusaders will take out their frustrations on their home floor against WLC.) :o ??? :o ??? ::) ::) :) ;) :) ;)
Final just in:
WLC 84 Alverno 48 Warriors now 7-1 in conference.
1/17 Finals:
Concordia-WI 69, Edgewood 50. (Falcons created a ton of TO's: Edgewood Coach Nyles didn't sub until less than 2 minutes left in first half--per CUW broadcast.) CUW now 8-1 in-conference.
Aurora 72, Concordia-Chicago 66. (CUC's broadcasters indicated that Aurora apparently broke it open in 2nd, and the Cougars were able to whittle away after that, but couldn't come all the way back.)
Marian 66, Benedictine 62. (Eagles out-rebounded 47-35--as indicated on Marian's box score.)
Rockford 50, Dominican 45. (per box score from Rockford College website--the Stars got off to a slow start and didn't recover.)
1/20/07 NathCon Projections:
Concordia-Chicago over Alverno: (Cougars have size advantage.)
Concordia-WI over Dominican: (Falcon good roll continues.)
Benedictine over Edgewood: (Too close to call.)
Marian over Lakeland: (Another one that could go either way.)
Aurora over Rockford: (Spartans remain in the reg season title hunt).
WLC over Maranatha: Two "X" factors--will WLC remember how a comparatively undermanned Maranatha team kept it close on the road last year before the Warriors pulled away--the other is--how hungry are the Crusaders? If the Warriors let their recent success go to their heads, this could be interesting. Again, they need to be careful. :-X :-\ :-X :-\
1/20/07 Finals:
Concordia-Chicago 73, Alverno 49.
(Caught this one live. How to beat Alverno--take care of the basketball, and if you've got enough tall personnel who can shoot, feed it into them repeatedly and crash the boards. The Cougars were able to get to the line often and Sinclair had a field day inside--particularly in the first half. One thing I will say for the Inferno, they may be relatively small but they do have quick hands. They were able to run the floor some after several steals in the first half, they just weren't able to convert much. Also, teams are collapsing on Ambrial Miller so her penetration isn't coming as easy as it did last year in the LMC play-in playoff game vs. Maranatha. She's been earning more of her points from the free-throw line than anywhere else. The loss of Leah Colon hurts--she was beginning to hit more of her 3's of late. The Cougars opened up to a 39-16 halftime lead, and were not seriously threatened after that.)
Lakeland 78, Marian 69, OT. (Per box score off Muskie website: Lakeland outshot Marian all around in the OT.)
Aurora 71, Rockford College 38. (Indication from Regents' box score: Rockford shot 13% in first half and held to 3 field goals and 8 points during that stretch!) :o ??? ::) :o ??? ::)
Benedictine 69, Edgewood 59. (Per Edgewood box score, Benedictine had 3 times as many points off turnovers as Edgewood and twice as many points in the paint.)
Concordia, WI 88, Dominican 53. (Per Dominican box score, Falcons outplayed Stars all-around).
Final: WLC 85, Maranatha 78. (Whew!)
This one was tied at 69, but the Warriors' Dillon hit some shots and the Warriors came up with some defensive stops and held on.
(This poster hopes that at least WLC's got a spot in the top 6 before they get the Crusaders in the regular season finale at home: Both squads shot the lights out in the first half, and the Crusaders hung tough, got a ton of steals and made things interesting. 'Natha's got nothing to be ashamed of.) :) ;)
WLC improves to 8-1 in-conference! :) ;) :D
1/23/07 NathCon Projections:
Concordia-WI over Aurora: (Falcons are at home-have opportunity for breathing room).
Concordia-Chicago over Rockford: (Regents will give more of a battle than Inferno, but the Cougars have a bit too much strength inside.)
Benedictine over Dominican:
Edgewood over Lakeland: (Too close to call, depends on how Eagles' coach utilizes her bench--and how well Muskies are shooting).
Maranatha over Alverno: (Another close one, Colon being out will hurt the Inferno, though both teams are hungry, I give Crusaders the nod because of their slight height advantage. Alverno could win if the Crusaders shoot poorly throughout the game. Also depends on who creates the most turnovers and gets the most points off them.)
Marian over WLC: :o ??? :o ??? (Sabers have been giving Warriors fits the last few times they've played each other. I know WLC wants this one bad after the Sabers knocked them out of the playoffs last season, but--I just have a feeling (a fear WLC may come out flat one game and never recover???). I hope I'm wrong.
1/23/07 Finals: Concordia, WI 71, Aurora 54. (Falcons got off to an 11-1 lead and Spartans generally never got back in it.
Edgewood up on Lakeland 64-50 with 0:25 remaining: (Eagles, 4 players in double figures scoring wise, Eagles also outshot and out-rebounded Muskies in this game).
WLC 60, Marian 52: Warriors keep pace with Falcons. (Late first-half/early second half scoring run and improved second-half shooting in general got WLC the win--per stats off Marian's site).
Maranatha 69, Alverno 55. (Wonder how much of a game Goff had inside). (14-0 run did Inferno in--per MBBC press release).
(Libero--at least your Crusaders went .500 on the evening.) :D
And in the mild upset of the evening:
Rockford College 41, Concordia-Chicago 39: :o ??? (Per Rockford box score, Cougars had a terrible night shooting-- Morgan Love hit a jumper with 8 seconds to play to give the Regents the win--costly loss for the Cougars if they want to qualify for the conference tournament).
1/25/07 Projections:
Marian over Alverno:
WLC over Dominican: (Hope the Warriors have a stronger game on offense in this one than they reportedly did against Marian earlier tonight.) (Again, they need to be careful here.)
Aurora over Lakeland: (Home game for the Spartans--they couldn't slow down Falcons' winning ways).
Edgewood over Maranatha: (Eagles stay in post-season contention).
Maranatha defeated Alverno last night - Amber Lang was 9 for 9 from the floor!
She had 24 points including 5 for 5 from beyond the arc. The only blemish on the night - she was 1-2 from the line. The Inferno should have started fouling her as soon as she caught the ball.
Quote from: libero on January 24, 2007, 09:47:06 AM
Maranatha defeated Alverno last night - Amber Lang was 9 for 9 from the floor!
She had 24 points including 5 for 5 from beyond the arc. The only blemish on the night - she was 1-2 from the line. The Inferno should have started fouling her as soon as she caught the ball.
They tried that last year in the LMC play-in playoff game--it didn't work--she was almost perfect from the line that game.--BTW--were you able to see the "near miss" against WLC?? (Was that incredible shooting in the first half or what???) Had WLC shot too much worse, the Crusaders would have had that one as well.
Edgewood is experiencing some shooting woes...... they better take it to the hole and get to the FT line. Scheele I think will be the difference.
EC is trailing MBBC with 5:37 to go 46-41
Final: Edgewood 61, MBBC 52. (Eagles hit their FT's late to pull away.) (Had an off night shooting).
Final: WLC 83, Dominican 48.
WLC is now 10-1 in-conference!!! :) ;) :D
2 more 1/25 Finals:
Marian 61, Alverno 48. (Inferno led by 3 at the half, but the Sabers outshot Alverno in the second half for the win--per Marian box score).
Lakeland 56, Aurora, IL 49. (Per Muskie press release, when Spartans tried double or triple-teaming Boehm, the ball would get kicked off to Danielle Duranceau, who was hitting her 3's that game.)
1/27/06 NAthCon Projections:
Aurora over Benedictine. (Only because the Spartans are at home.)
Lakeland over Dominican. (Muskies' offense may be coming around at the right time for them.)
Marian over Maranatha. (Sabers have more muscle inside, but Crusaders have a chance if they're hitting their 3's.)
Rockford over Alverno. (Inferno will need to get a lot of points off turnovers in this one.)
Edgewood over WLC. (Warriors' winning run ends--this is the beginning of their toughest stretch of the season.)
Concordia-WI over Concordia-Chicago (should the 2 meet in the weekend invitational).
This poster's got a feeling things are going to get very interesting yet. :-X :-\ :-X :-\ :) ;) :D
This poster's still hoping Concordia-WI wins out the rest of the way. That's probably the best scenario for any Nationals bid from this conference this year.
:-X :-\ :-X :-\ ;) ;)
Aurora over Benedictine
Lakeland over Dominican
Maranatha over Marian
Rockford over Alverno
WLC over Edgewood
Concordia-WI over Concordia-Chicago
Final: Concordia-WI 70, Concordia-Chicago 69 (2 OT's). (If this counts as an in-conference game, the Falcons are back in sole possession of first place.)
Final: Edgewood 64, WLC 59. (Turnovers hurt the Warriors big time down the stretch, and the Eagles also outrebounded WLC for the game.) :-X :-X
Other 1/27 Finals:
Marian 79, Maranatha Baptist 65 (Marian outshot the Crusaders on 2-pointers and free-throws. MBBC--26 turnovers, per box score off Marian's web-site).
Lakeland 72, Dominican 47.
MSOE 56, Finlandia 53. (As usual, more often then not, it was mostly the Chappell/Guthrie show for MSOE as far as offensive scoring output goes, per MSOE account.)
Rockford College 62, Alverno 30.
Aurora 78, Benedictine 57.
1/30-31/07 Projections:
Maranatha over Dominican: (Crusaders are at home. Dominican can win this if their taller players have big rebounding and scoring games.)
Aurora over WLC:
Benedictine over Rockford:
Lakeland over Concordia-Chicago: (More so if the Muskies' Duranceau is given the green light as far as shooting 3's. If that draws the Cougars' taller personnel farther out--.)
Concordia-WI all over Alverno: (Falcons can put distance between themselves and the other front-runners.)
Edgewood over Marian: (WI Eagle squad also may move up. WI Eagle veteran players are doing it with stamina and guts.)
After Concordia-WI, its' going to be a real dogfight--folks. I can feel it already.
I will be taking in the MBBC - Dom game tonight. Boy, it would be nice to get some good news on this campus. . . I hope you are right WLCALUM.
Hey, hey, the Crusaders get a sweep of the season series over Dominican!
Final; Maranatha 86, Dominican 74. (Crusaders had 4 players in double figures, per MBBC website release.
It was a good game for the Crusaders. Several players came through when it mattered. They weren't dependent on one single player. I kept thinking they were going to implode at several points, but they kept battling and eventually won by a pretty large margin.
Who is most likely to win the Women's POY award in the Northern Athletics Conference?
Final: Concordia-WI 70, Alverno 36. (Inferno stayed in it 'till midway thru 1st half, then a boat-load of turnovers and a cold-shooting spell did them in).
Less than 30 seconds left: Lakeland 63, Concordia-WI 49. (Another big day for Boehm inside, CU-Chicago outshot all around. Cougars' Feher in early foul trouble. Wonder how much Glidewell being out hurts the Cougars at this point.)
Other 1/31/07 Finals:
Aurora 64, WLC 56. (Per what little this poster heard, the Spartans came back from an 11-point deficit in 2nd half to get the win. Ouch. >:(
Benedictine 50, Rockford College 40. (IL Eagles outrebounded Regents 44-30, and led throughout the contest, as Rockford box score indicates.
And in the mild upset of the evening category:
Marian 58, Edgewood 55. :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? (Marian outrebounded Edgewood for the game. The Sabers' Rose scored the last 3 points, and a Nickie Updike turnover on the WI Eagles' last possession was costly, per Marian box score.
2/03/07 Projections:
Benedictine over Alverno:
Edgewood over Dominican (even more so after tonight's Eagle loss).
Concordia-WI over Lakeland (Falcons have yet to lose an in-conference game at home this season. Lakeland should give them a good run for their money, though).
Concordia-Chicago over Maranatha (If the Crusaders are hitting on all cylinders --particularly their 3's, this could be a tight game.)
Aurora over Marian:
WLC over Rockford: (Warriors have lost 2 in a row--need to have a win to keep pace with the other leaders. A loss wouldn't put them out of contention, but it would make the road a bit harder.)
Six teams are within 2 games of second place at this point. Hang on to your hats, folks. There's still 2 1/2 weeks of regular-season conference play left! :-X :-\ :-X :-\ ;) :) ;)
This is sometimes typical of the women's side of the conference.
Alverno and Dominican have already been eliminated from the NAthCon conference tournament. :-X
I just went through the conference statistics and I don't see a reason why Scheele shouldn't win it. She's fun to watch play, has passion, loves the game, and just flat out works hard. Great kid.
Shifted back to Concordia-WI/Lakeland for the last 1:30 minutes of that one
the Final was Concordia-WI 67, Lakeland 48. (Ruppe came up big for the Falcons again, Lakeland's outside shooting wasn't that good).
Other 2/03/07 Finals:
Edgewood 55, Domincan 40. (Per what little this poster heard, both teams were shooting poorly for a good share of the game-the Eagles reportedly pulled away in the last 2 minutes.) (Edgewood-27 points off turnovers to Dominican's 9. The Stars' Crystal Gant had one of her better games--Edgewood site.)
WLC lost to Rockford--don't have the exact final (around 10 points). The Regents were able to get several offensive rebounds, and the Warriors' shots weren't dropping. This is a game the Warriors should have won. ??? ::) ::) ::) (A WLC 3-point threat and defensive hound off the bench, Lauren Lanza, didn't play--ankle.)
Benedictine 73, Alverno 46. (The IL Eagles move into a 3-way tie for 2nd with WLC and Aurora.)
Women's final: Concordia-Chicago 98, Maranatha 69.
Another final: Aurora 73, Marian 55. (Aurora-24 points off turnovers to Marian's 11. --Marian box score.)
2/6/07 Projections:
Edgewood over Alverno: (WI Eagles take advantage of relatively easy part of schedule).
Concordia-Chicago over WLC: :o ??? (I know it's a home game for WLC, but the Warrior offense is in a slump, one of the main factors in their win over the Cougars earlier was WLC was hitting on its' threes in the earlier matchup. This one's too close to call. Glidewell's out for the Cougars but I heard one of the Warriors' key players may be hurting, too.) (Could it be that after the first time around the league--???)
Concordia-WI over Benedictine: This figures to be a close game.
Aurora over Maranatha:
Marian over Dominican:
Lakeland over Rockford: (The Muskies are at home and they need this one real bad).
Megan Scheele has had a phenominal year, but you can't forget about Kristen Ruppe who has flown under the radar all season long.
I'm taking Rockford over Lakeland, they will give a lot of people a run for their money at the end of this season, and WLC will beat Concordia-Chicago, no way a team like WLC loses 4 in a row, especially at a crucial point in the season.
Ruppe is a nice player, but statistically(conference) her stats don't quite match up with Scheele. While they are playing in different systems, I believe Scheele has had more of am impact on her team and the conference. Arguments can be made for a handful of players this season. It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out.
Another factor to take into consideration, Ruppe's on a squad that has a bit more depth than that of Scheele. The latter's darn near had to play 35 minutes a game most nights.
Just my .02.
WLC I completely agree with you. That's a major factor. The fact that Scheele is playing 35 min. give or take 2 a night AND she's still turning in those #'s at this point of the season says a lot. The beating that she's taken- not only from opponents, but the mental beating that she puts herself through when she's not happy with her play. She's matured a lot since last year. I think she's deserving.
Maranatha v Alverno tonight. Cancelled due to weather. Rescheduled for February 15th.
That puts that game right between Benedictine and Wisconsin Lutheran. Given the conditions, however, it's the right move to make.
Quote from: libero on February 06, 2007, 04:50:16 PM
Maranatha v Alverno tonight. Cancelled due to weather. Rescheduled for February 15th.
vs. Aurora? or is it Maranatha/Edgewood that's cancelled?
Maranatha vs. Aurora and Rockford vs. Lakeland were cancelled.
MBBC/Aurora re-scheduled for 2/15.
Rockford/Lakeland re-scheduled for 2/11.
Edgewood 70, Alverno 35--final: (Inferno shooting went cold on them early in 2nd--per Eagle broadcasting account).
Final: WLC 69, Concordia-Chicago 56. (Big win WLC had to get.)
WLC: W Miller & K Dillon alone combined for 37 Warrior points. WLC outshot CU-Chicago from the floor some 44% to 22% in the 2nd half. Cougars out-rebounded on the game as well--WLC box score.
Half: Concordia-WI 40, Benedictine 33.
Final: Concordia-WI 78, Benedictine 74. (Eagles' Curtis --35 points, Falcons' Davis, Beckum, and Mayyou offset that with big scoring games of their own).
Final: Marian 61, Dominican 54. (Marian outshot the Stars all around and outrebounded them--per Dominican box score.)
2/08/07 NAthCon Projections:
Lakeland over Benedictine: (Only because the Muskies are at home--too close to call otherwise.)
Dominican over Alverno: (Stars have slight height advantage in this battle to escape the basement. Inferno still could win this if it plays a full 40 minutes.)
Aurora over Edgewood: (Home game for the Spartans--too close to call game #2).
Rockford over Maranatha: (Could be close if Crusaders are hitting their 3's. They need to hang tough on the boards.)
Concordia-Chicago over Marian: (Cougars stay alive for another day.)
Concordia-WI over WLC. (Falcons' Beckum has a hot 3-point shooting hand of late--Warriors rarely win in Mequon anyway.)
Remaining Schedule for NAthCon Contenders:
Concordia-WI: vs. WLC, at Maranatha, at Marian, vs. Dominican.
WLC: at Concordia-WI, at Benedictine, vs. Lakeland, vs. Maranatha.
Benedictine: at Lakeland, vs. WLC, at Maranatha, at Edgewood.
Aurora: vs. Edgewood, at Dominican, at Alverno, vs. Maranatha, at Rockford.
Edgewood: at Aurora, at Concordia-Chicago, at Rockford, vs. Benedictine.
Lakeland: vs. Benedictine, at Alverno, vs. Rockford, at WLC, vs. Marian.
Marian: at Concordia-Chicago, vs. Rockford, vs. Concordia-WI, at Lakeland.
Concordia-Chicago: vs. Marian, vs. Edgewood, vs. Dominican, vs. Alverno.
Here we go: Concordia-Chicago's kicking themselves big time for losing the last game they had against Rockford. All 4 of the Cougar games are at home, but a Marian win coupled with a Concordia-Chicago loss and the Cougars are eliminated from the conference tournament.
Aurora, (on paper, anyway) would appear to have the easiest of the schedules.
If Marian lost 3 of its' last four games, the Sabers would also be eliminated. This poster, however, does not see that happening--barring the unforeseen.
We wanted a dog-fight. We're getting one. :-X :-\ :) ;) :D :) ;) :D
Quote from: Illinihoops4 on February 04, 2007, 09:56:16 PM
Ruppe is a nice player, but statistically(conference) her stats don't quite match up with Scheele. While they are playing in different systems, I believe Scheele has had more of am impact on her team and the conference. Arguments can be made for a handful of players this season. It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out.
As much as you say Scheele has had an impact, that is great with a team you can shine on with no other big hitters. With CUW, Ruppe can't stand out as much as she should because their whole team is stacked. They have depth with their starters and players coming off the bench. I believe that Ruppe has done more throughout the entire season in the tough games. When they met for head-to-head match, they were in in their stats. Scheele had 17 pts with 5 rebonds and Ruppe has 16 pts with 5 rebounds. If Scheele was so much of a better player, she would have stood out in that game. Stats are only numbers.....it depends on the player, and overall Ruppe is the better player!
So you're going to punish Scheele because she doesn't play on a "stacked" team? I'm not saying Ruppe isn't deserving of the honor, but you can't rule Scheele out. A longtime follower of the LMC and especially Lakeland College, the POY has been typically based on stats-and yes, they are just #'s- but they factor in (the NIIC operated in a similar fashion). Catherine Chappel from MSOE was last year's POY and she also played on a team with no other big hitters. Those stats that you quoted in head to head tell me that they both played solid. It's not Scheele's fault that her team needs her to do more than Ruppe does. An argument for Ruppe- she's a senior on the top team in the NAC and she's solid. You have to give credit to Scheele because as a sophomore- she's pleading her case. I've seen both players play numerous games and I'm taking it you've only seen Scheele play CUW? It could go either way and honestly- maybe neither one of them come out with it.
Just some other observations--the closest thing to a big hitter C Chappell had for support last season was Courtney Femling (who averaged 10 points per game less than Chappell did).
This season, for comparison's sake, Edgewood's 2 other top scorers have been Jordan Kittoe and Nickie Updike, while Concordia-WI has K Mayyou and Asia Beckum (who has been shooting the net to shreds from 3-point range of late.)
Again, it's not so much that Edgewood isn't loaded, it's that the Eagle starters as a whole for most of this season have had to put in more minutes than the Falcon starters.
:-X :-\ :-X :-\
Final: Concordia-WI 69, WLC 59. (WLC cut it down to 13 with 3 1/2 minutes left, but Concordia would either hit a shot or get an offensive rebound late. Had the Warriors been able to convert off of more of the Falcons' first half turnovers, it would have been a tighter game. Dillon had a career high in points, in the losing cause.)
0:29 left in 2nd--Benedictine 50, Lakeland 29. (Muskies shot 18% from the field on the game. Benedictine's Tamika Curtis had 18 rebounds. Muskies' Boehm had 12 points, but not much help.)
An Aurora loss, and Concordia-WI clinches the NAthCon regular season title.
Other 2/08/07 NAthCon Finals:
(Libero, I hope you're sitting down:)
Rockford College 57, Maranatha 56. (Rockford's Chelsea Slater got T'd up late in the game. Amber Lang hit 1 of 2 free throws. The Crusaders had one more opportunity, but a Colleen Goff turnover did them in-- as indicated on Regents' box score.)
Marian 66, Concordia-Chicago 60. (Sabers went on a 17-5 scoring run to end the game. Concordia-Chicago 4-31 from 3-point range.--Marian box score.)
Dominican 68, Alverno 53.
Edgewood downs AU 56-55!
Anyone want to hand Edgewood's Tola Nyles (sp) "Coach of the Year" Yet??" (This poster read from the Edgewood press release that the Eagles rallied from a double-digit deficit on the road to get the win.)
(Between that and the way Concordia-Chicago reportedly lost, there are a lot of Illinois NAthCon fans who have good reason to be frustrated. ):-X
(Correct me if I'm wrong, but with Aurora's loss, Concordia-WI may have clinched the NAthCon regular season title outright!).
Concordia-Chicago is eliminated from NAthCon tournament contention with tonight's loss.
(The "shell-game"-like shifting logjam for 2nd place continues.)
2/10/07 NAthCon Women's Projections:
Aurora over Dominican:
Concordia-WI over Maranatha: (How will Falcon Coach Brunner use her players? Keep top ones in rhythm or give her deep bench personnel more of a look?)
Edgewood over Concordia-Chicago:
Lakeland over Alverno: (Muskies stay alive).
Marian over Rockford: (Only because it's a home game for the Sabers.)
Benedictine over WLC: (Warriors hurting.)
Who will get the NAthCon Women's "Coach of the Year" Award?
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 08, 2007, 10:07:36 PM
Other 2/08/07 NAthCon Finals:
(Libero, I hope you're sitting down:)
Rockford College 57, Maranatha 56. (Rockford's Chelsea Slater got T'd up late in the game. Amber Lang hit 1 of 2 free throws. The Crusaders had one more opportunity, but a Colleen Goff turnover did them in-- as indicated on Regents' box score.)
It is amazing what a great shooter Lang is from the floor, but she can't get any streaks going at the line. What a game.
It adds insult to injury that RC is coached by an MBBC grad who only played baseball in college and got his degree by going to classes largely taught by Morrison - MBBC's women's coach.
Nice.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 09, 2007, 08:59:47 AM
Who will get the NAthCon Women's "Coach of the Year" Award?
This poster cast his vote for Edgewood's T Niles. She's been extremely fortunate to have her starters put in the time they've had without having them foul out more often.
Is it-- 1) The conditioning?
2) To the best of my knowledge, to this point, D Tromberg's been the only Edgewood player to be lost to fouls on more than one occasion.
3) Her more experienced players know how to stay out of foul trouble.
4) All hands have remained healthy, to this point.
5) After semester break, she gained another player, which had to help some.
Props to Edgewood's Jordane Kittoe!
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Final: Concordia-WI 83, Maranatha 69. (Falcons' depth wore Crusaders down as 2nd half wore on. Crusaders' Lang and Petersen fouled out, Falcons hit more of their 3's in 2nd half as well.)
Other 2/10/07 Finals:
Lakeland 57, Alverno 36 (Muskies, as expected, stay alive.) (Lakeland outrebounded the Inferno 40-30 and hit 10 3-pointers in the contest--per Alverno box score.)
Marian 50, Rockford 47. (Sabers outshot Regents from the floor-per Marian box score).
Aurora 79, Dominican 47. (Spartans outrebounded Stars and outshot them all around--including hitting 9 three-pointers-per Stars box score.)
Benedictine 76, WLC 54. (Another day the Warriors' shots weren't dropping).
Edgewood 72, Concordia-Chicago 55. (Cougars outshot all around. Scheele came up big-31 pts-Edgewood release.)
Lakeland's win coupled with Rockford's loss eliminates the Regents from NAthCon's post-season tournament.
It's down to 7 teams vying for 6 spots.
2/11, 14/Projections:
2-11: Lakeland over Rockford
2-14: Aurora over Alverno
Benedictine over Maranatha
Concordia-WI over Marian (even though the Falcons are on the road).
Concordia-Chicago over Dominican (Cougar home game.)
Edgewood over Rockford
Lakeland over WLC.
2-11 Final: Lakeland 50, Rockford 34. (Muskies hit 8 3 pointers on the day and Duranceau had 4 of those.--Lakeland box score.)
Just curious, does anyone think that the women's ball should be the same size as the men's ball? It seems like it would make more sense for the rim to be lower. . . Men's and women's soccer balls are the same size. Men's and women's volleyballs are the same size. . .
Quote from: libero on February 13, 2007, 11:41:48 AM
Just curious, does anyone think that the women's ball should be the same size as the men's ball? It seems like it would make more sense for the rim to be lower. . . Men's and women's soccer balls are the same size. Men's and women's volleyballs are the same size. . .
I once read where Press Maravich ("Pistol Pete's" father, who was a basketball coach in his own right), suggested that backboards be angular or concave, so that the trajectory of a rebound wouldn't be so easy to figure out. . . :-X :o :P :P ::) ;)
As far as your suggestion about rims being lower, is that to say you want more dunks in women's games? ;)
(Current Ohio women's coach and former North Carolina player Sylvia Crawley is the one women's pro player I know of for sure that pulled a dunk off--at half-time of a women's pro All-Star game).
I can see why logic would have it that the guys and the girls would use the same ball. My concern for it would be the implementation. Little kids especially would have a harder time adjusting to the size and weight. I think it college the players would adapt quickly because of the strength training implemented at the college level. I envision sloppier play at the lower levels because of a lack of strength. Can you imagine how bad some shots would look if they used a heavier ball.
A smaller ball makes sense because of smaller hands handling it and smaller bodies rebounding and being strong with it. If I had to vote on an issue like that I would say that a change needed to be uniform across all levels if it were to be effective....but for now, we'll play with a 28.5!
Women's final: Benedictine 77, Maranatha 47. (Eagles raced out to an 18-4 lead and never looked back after that-per Maranatha site:)
With that victory, the IL Eagle squad clinches a spot in the NAthCon post-season tournament.
Tamika Curtis is a fantastic player. Her speed, strength, balance and touch are unbelievable. I haven't seen everyone in the conference, but wow!
The Crusader women played horribly last night. No passion, no enthusiasm. I think they would have been willing to call the game at half-time and go home last night.
Other 2/14 Finals: Edgewood 52, Rockford 41. (Regents outshot all around yet again--source is Edgewood's box score). With that win, the WI Eagles squad clinches a spot in the NAthCon post-season tournament.
WLC 77, Lakeland 67. (WLC's Laete had a big night point-scoring wise. Muskies' Boehm was held below her usual scoring average.)
Aurora 70, Alverno 53.
Concordia-Chicago 73, Dominican 64. (28 turnovers did the Stars in. Cougars had 6 blocked shots--source is Concordia-Chicago's box score.)
Final: Concordia-WI 68, Marian 55. (That result does WLC a big favor). A few minutes in, Concordia-WI started hitting shots and controlling the boards. The Falcons raced out to a big lead, Marian cut it down to around 10, but couldn't get much closer. Falcons garner their first win at Marian in several seasons.)
With both Lakeland and Marian losing tonight, they play each other in the regular season finale at Lakeland on Saturday. Unless there's something I'm missing, the loser of that game is out of contention for the NAthCon Tournament.
2/15-17/07 NAthCon Projections:
2-15: Aurora over Maranatha: (Spartans jockeying with Edgewood for playoff positioning).
2-17: Concordia-Chicago over Alverno: (Cougars have height advantage. Inferno will need to score a boatload of points off turnovers to have a chance in the finale.)
Aurora over Rockford: (See note on 2-15 projection).
Edgewood over Benedictine: (Only because its' a home game for the WI Eagle squad).
Concordia-WI over Dominican: (Falcons figure to keep momentum going before prepping up for NAthCon second round game.)
Lakeland over Marian: (Oh, to be a fly on the wall in either one of these squad's locker rooms pre-game, half-time and post-game for this one! Muskies are at home, and if the Sabers keep Boehm below her usual scoring average, it'll come down to who brought more of their shooting eye. The loser is eliminated from NAthCon post-season contention).
WLC over Maranatha: (The Warriors won't take this one too lightly. A--It's WLC's Winterfest B--They remember the battle the Crusaders gave them on the road. 'Natha gave WLC a good run for its' money before the Warriors pulled away late in the previous match-up between these squads.)
The Lakeland-Marian match-up has the makings of a great game. There is no love lost between these schools even when the game means nothing.
WLC women split with Lakeland on the regular season and beat Marian at home the only time the Warriors met the Sabers.
(Libero, are you going to Milwaukee to see your Crusaders give my Warriors a run for their money?)
2/15/07 Women's Final:
Aurora, IL 77, Maranatha Baptist 55. (Spartans clinch a post-season tournament spot.)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 14, 2007, 10:41:33 PM
2/15-17/07 NAthCon Projections:
2-17: Lakeland over Marian: (Oh, to be a fly on the wall in either one of these squad's locker rooms pre-game, half-time and post-game for this one! Muskies are at home, and if the Sabers keep Boehm below her usual scoring average, it'll come down to who brought more of their shooting eye. The loser is eliminated from NAthCon post-season contention).
When Maranatha went on the road to play Alverno in the LMC play-in game last season, I attended that game live, and the following is what I saw in terms of pro-Inferno fan support:
1-- Someone had taken a pair of full-size hockey sticks and fastened some small wooden planks to the stick-ends of them ("D" on one and a drawn picket fence on the other.)
2-- The mascot was there in uniform, (full flame, and all.) Just wonder how long it took those who designed that uniform to put it all together.
This poster can only imagine the following Lakeland will have tomorrow vs. Marian. (I'd be surprised if any Muskie fan had any voice left after this and the men's game.)
I used to go to more games when I was single and had no kids. :) If the 'Saders ever qualify for a playoff spot, I will do everything I can to make it.
This is going to be a fun NAC tourney to follow. It will be even more interesting when there is an AQ on the line.
Barring any last-minute mix-ups, I'm going to be catching both of WLC's games in person. Lakeland's got Marian at home tomorrow, so live stats should be available for that "winner move on" women's battle.
I hope WLC's women don't have a let-down. 'Natha gave them a good run for their money in the earlier meeting.
You know what I am rooting for... :) however I think the Lady Saders are ready to move on with their lives and aren't really focused on playing intense basketball at the moment.
2/17 Final (game I caught live): WLC 81, Maranatha 73.
Believe it or not, this was a back and forth game at first, until WLC's Emily Laete picked up her second foul midway through the first half. Colleen Goff hit several shots inside, and Amber Lang and a couple of other Crusaders were hitting their 3's, so much so that Maranatha actually broke out to a 40-29 lead. The Warriors shaved 3 points off that before half-time. In the second half, Emily Laete was able to get to the line quite a bit, and although the Warriors weren't hitting too many of their 3's, one of the Miller ladies was hitting on several mid-range shots, the Crusaders' shooting cooled off and WLC got the victory in the end.
Other 2/17 NAthCon Finals:
Concordia-Chicago 65, Alverno 32 (Atoi Sinclair & Co, get a win in her last game.) (Alverno had 29 turnovers to the Cougars' 14 and the Inferno had a poor shooting day from the floor, per box score off CU-Chicago web site.)
Aurora 57, Rockford College 44. (Regents shot 22% in first half and never recovered--source is Rockford box score.)
Benedictine 63, Edgewood 57 :o ??? (Edgewood outshot from the field in the game-WI Eagle box score.)
Concordia-WI 83, Dominican 45. (18 and 1 with at least one more game to play--is a bid to Nationals in this teams' future??)
Lakeland 57, Marian 50. (Muskies rallied from a 5-point half-time deficit-Boehm held to 11 pts. but Duranceau had 24. Lakeland got to the line quite a bit in second half--per Muskie box score.)
2/19 NAthCon Playoff Projections:
Edgewood over WLC: (Warriors can win this if they bring their "A" game and cut down on turnovers. They had several traveling violations after leading by 7 points with some 8 minutes left in 2nd half, which turned out to be a partial factor in Edgewood's comeback win in the earlier meeting.) (WLC needs to stay even on the boards and if the Warriors manage to get points off turnovers and/or on the break, the better their chances.)
Benedictine over Lakeland: (Curtis vs. Boehme should be interesting. IL Eagles figure to prevail at home.) (Lakeland can win this if the Muskie outside shooters are hitting their 3's. If the Eagles slow Boehm down, Curtis has a big-scoring night, and Lakeland's not hitting from outside, the Eagles win.)
Anyone else want to chime in as to who should get the Freshman of the Year Award?
My first reaction on that is that CUW's Asia Beckum should get it:
(If my parameters were "Newcomer of the Year" WLC's Lauren Lanza would surely be in the running.)
Coach Brunner and the Falcons of Concordia have put a nice season together. The won the NAC and enter the post-season tourney with a one seed. With this being the inaugral year the NAC doesn't get an automatic bid, correct? If the Falcons cruise through the tourney what are there chances of getting a bid to the DIII big dance?
Have they played enough quality opponents? What's the criteria for selecting teams at DIII?
The NAthCon does not get an automatic bid this season. (In the first QOWI index this poster saw, of the teams the Falcons have lost to, one finished below .500 on the year, and the other two are between 140 and 200 on the QOWI index.) If the Falcons win both of their tournament games, and end up with a 23-3 overall record, their chances are better, but, depending on what happens in other regions, they may still have some sweating-out to do on Sunday/Monday. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Well, according to the quality of win index posted in the multi-region area (under Pool C), CUW is listed as #33 - which I think is pretty good among independents for strength of schedule.
CUW's currently 19-2 in region (which is the record that really counts), so if they can win the NAthConf tournament, they have a really good shot. They are up for one of the 4 "Pool B" bids that go to "independents" (teams in leagues without AQ's or not in a conference at all). I have no idea who their competition would be for those spots, though.
There's a board discussing Pool B under multi-regional topics where people tackle this in some detail.
Final: Edgewood 68, WLC 64. (After halftime, some 5 minutes or so into 2nd half play, WLC's Kristin Dillon took a blow to the head and had to leave the game. With just over 9 minutes left, the Warriors' Emily Laete fouled out. Edgewood got called for several traveling violations. Whitney Miller hit a couple of shots and then the Warriors took the lead with 13 seconds left on a Kami Ten Pas field goal--On the ensuing play, Megan Scheele got a bucket, drew a foul, hit the free-throw--see you later.) As usual, Scheele and Kittoe were able to get to the line a lot.
Can't really complain much, though. It would have been worse if the Warriors had not won their last 2 regular season in-conference home games (and they had to do that without their best all-around off-the-bench 2-way player, Lauren Lanza). Bittersweet way to have WLC's Kami Ten Pas' playing days come to a close.
Final: Benedictine 74, Lakeland 54. (Muskies' M Chart unavailable due to injury--four IL Eagle players in double-figures--Muskies' cold shooting did them in again. Lakeland loses 4 players to graduation--per their own press release, first time since 1995 the Muskies haven't reached a conference tournament final.) How many D3 schools would love to have a run like that???
Semi-final projections:
Concordia-WI over Edgewood: (Only because the Falcons are at home. Wonder what else Eagle Coach Neils can pull out of her bag of tricks--even though she'll have to do it on the road? It would make Edgewood's season even more to knock the Falcons off and give them reason to sweat over the next few days.)
Aurora over Benedictine: (Interesting match-up here-IL Eagles' Curtis vs. Aurora's 1-2 offensive punch of N Guise and B Plucinski--sp).
Call me crazy, but I am going to predict a Ben upset of AU. I think with a player like Curtis, anything can happen in the women's game. A slow-paced game plan and low turnovers could get it done for Ben.
Conc-W over Edge.
Conc-W over Ben in the final.
Congratulations and best of luck to MSOE's Catherine Chappell, who just became one of the 10 Women's Nominees for the Jostens Award! :D :D
It's Concordia-WI women's teams turn to get the props:
www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=569113
Final: Concordia-WI 70, Edgewood 67. (Whew!!) :) ;) :D
Edgewood broke out to an early 10-3 lead. The Falcons came up with several steals and offensive rebounds and hoops to regain the lead. In the second half, the Falcons increased that lead to 47-34, but then had several turnovers of their own. Eagles also didn't get to the line nearly as much as previously against WLC. Megan Scheele, despite being in serious foul trouble most of the game, kept the Eagles in it. (21 pts before fouling out late.)
Falcons' Asia Beckum hit several clutch FT's and Edgewoods' M Schulz missed 2 FT's that would have tied the game After Beckums' FT's, a last second Jordane Kittoe 3-point attempt to tie fell short of the mark.
Whew is right. Edgewood and Concordia go down to the buzzer - free throws ended up being the name of the game. Congrats go out to Edgewood for playing a tough tough game at Buuck Fieldhouse. Scheele certainly has a bright future in front of her and Kittoe has definitely leaving a legacy!
Best of luck to the Falcons on Saturday - here is to hoping the weather cooperates!
NAthCon website indicates that Benedictine defeated Aurora, 68-63.
NAthCon Women's Final Projection:
Concordia-WI over Benedictine:
1-- Falcons are at home
2-- They know they need a win here to stay in contention for an NCAA Div III Tournament bid.
(the Eagles can win this if Curtis has a monster game scoring and on the offensive boards, she gets scoring support, and the Falcons have a cold-shooting day. Two other factors. The Falcons' chances are better if they get off to a fast start. You know how difficult it is to beat the same team 3 times in a season.)
Quote from: libero on February 20, 2007, 12:10:23 PM
Call me crazy, but I am going to predict a Ben upset of AU. I think with a player like Curtis, anything can happen in the women's game. A slow-paced game plan and low turnovers could get it done for Ben.
Conc-W over Edge.
Conc-W over Ben in the final.
Props to me :)
I hope CUW makes wins out and gets a win in the tourney. I think they have the "horses" to do it.
For a live broadcast of Benedictine at CUW go to:
http://www.cuw.edu/Athletics/broadcasts/scoreboards.html
and click on basketball. Should be nothing less than a great game.
This poster seconds that!
Win today, and at least take the trophy home! Bid or no bid, regardless of today's result, your record is nothing to sneeze at!
Falcons win!
Falcons win!
Falcons win!
Final was 65-50. (Second half neither team was able to generate that much offensively. Eagles cut it down to 11, but had several more turnovers. Both teams had a lot of 2nd half turnovers. Again, Concordia was able to draw fouls and hit their free-throws.)
They did what they had to do. Now it's time to play the waiting game.
Concordia-WI gets in as a Pool B!!! ;) :D :) ;) :D
Concordia should be set with a match-up against Carrol College
Biggest thing in your favor was all 3 Falcon losses occurred relatively early in the season. To this point, the Falcons have been the most consistent team in the NAthCon and their bench players have been giving them good production. As long as they continue to crash the boards (and especially if they hit their 3's) they've got a chance to make some noise.
Maybe the NAC should try to stay as "independent" - darn near got two teams in Pool B, while there would have been NO chance for a 2nd spot in Pool C. Concordia gets a tough draw at Luther. Carroll also has it all to do against a very good Illinois Wesleyan team.
At first glance, Luther's A TeKippe may give the Falcons fits with her height advantage:
The link to Luther's stats is:
http://sports.luther.edu/stats/women/basketball/2006-07/TEAMCUME.HTM
I saw Luther play twice this season and the Falcons may have their hands full. Luther is solid in the post and Guaard(sp?) is as good as they come. They've gotten good play from their bench and it should be a great game. It's nice to see Coach H back in the NCAA's.
The other match-up will be interesting as well. IWU has been without leading scorer Heydorn who has a broken thumb. Carroll has tournament experience and a 6'2 post. 6'2 is nothing new in the CCIW, but they have the guard to go with it in Hoewisch. Gotta pull for IWU in this one.
height doesnt mean anything. the falcons have 7 players that can score in the double digits on any given night. Plus they have that smothering defense that causes lots of problems for opponents. It will be a very good game, keep in mind that neither team really has any game experience at the NCAA tournament level. Luther has not been there in a while, only once since 1999. I am definetly excited for it.
By the way, I don't think that the NAC was clost to getting two teams into the National Tournament. Maybe if someone was able to give the Falcons a run for their money.
Took a closer look at Luther's and CUW's statistics. In terms of rebounding and points scored/given up, the teams appear to be evenly matched. (BTW, last Women's ranking poll I saw had Luther at #25 nationally--the feather in Concordia's cap would be a bit larger should the Falcons get the win.)
BTW, both teams are going in there with a big winning run. Luther's last loss per their own schedule was during the first week of January against Loras. Somethin's gotta give.
While both teams are coming into the tournament on a winning streak- a major confidence builder- look at the schedules. I would have to think that Luther's schedule has preprared them for this match-up more so than the NAC conference schedule. Perhaps one of the downfalls of a "super conference" without divisions. While all wins are in-region wins- they aren't against top calibur teams. As far as stats go, it's different when you aren't playing against the Simpson's, and BV's.
While CUW may have 7 players that can score in double figures on any given night- so does Luther. Height does play a factor, especially on the defensive side of things. CUW has a slew of physical players in the post, so hopefully they'll use that to their advantage. I still think it's going to be a great game. I'm making the drive- weather permitting.
I would totally agree on the strength of schedule. Luther has been playing teams that will prepare them for tournament play, whereas Concordia lacked that kind of opposition in the NAC, and they certainly didn't line up sizeable non-conference foes.
As for match-ups, Concordia needs to pound the ball inside and get Luther in foul trouble. But I still agree with the scoring depth that Luther can put up, I haven't gotten to watch Luther tape, but on paper, they really only have 3 maybe four stand-out scorers. They also don't shoot the three ball all that well. So I don't know what you know.
All I know is that Luther has the experience against tough opponents, something the Falcons may lack, but there will be a lot of good match-ups.
Anyways. tune in to the broadcast if you cannot be there
http://www.cuw.edu/Athletics/broadcasts/scoreboards.html
and then click on basketball.
Congratulations to all players who received NAthCon All-Conference Awards!
http://northernathleticsconf.com/sports/basketball_women/all-conference:
Can't argue with the selections.
The way WLC's Lauren Lanza was playing and shooting before she got hurt, I wonder how close she would have come to "Honorable Mention" had she not gotten hurt and missed the last several weeks of the season.
Will give Edgewood Coach Neils another shout-out. Given the lack of depth her squad (when compared to CUW and Lakeland, for example), she did a good job. :) ;)
Kami Ten Pas, you will be missed.
Final in first game: Carroll 86, IL Wesleyan 59.
Concordia-WI vs. Luther, IA on deck:
5 minutes left in 2nd: Falcons down some 25 points--see ya later.
(It still beats not getting an NCAA bid at all--which happened with NAthCon Women's Volleyball.) :)
Sounds like Lakeland's going to be looking for a new women's basketball coach:
The 3 WLC/Lakeland match-ups this poster remembers from April Arvan's tenure:
1999-2000 LMC Tournament: (On Lakeland's home floor Final--WLC 72, Lakeland 59. :o ??? That was after the Muskies had hammered the Warriors by some 20 points or so in each of the 2 previous meetings that season.
2000-2001 LMC Tournament: Lakeland 69, WLC 40. (Muskies return the favor in '01 final, on WLC's home floor in Sara Zondag's last game as a Warrior.
2002-2003 LMC Tournament: WLC over Lakeland again.
Best to her. :)
I think WLCALUM83 deserves to lose his posting privileges if that's what he remembers of Lakeland's April Arvan. He talks as if that's all she will remember are her WLC loses and he says, "her last game was a win, anyway." as if she never compiled a winning record before.
Where does one even start with a coach like Arvan. Let's see how about 266 wins and only 84 loses or a winning record of .760 overall and .823 in conference play. 8 conference titles and 6 conference tournament titles. 5 appearances in the NCAA tournament and how about 6 conference coach of the year awards. That's just the facts there but above all she is a great person and was well respected by her team and opponents.
Name me another coach in the LMC or NAC with that kind of coaching career. I almost pitty you WLCALUM83, for not knowing very much about Arvan, you missed out on probably the best coach our conference will ever see.
Let me clarify:
1-- I said "I'd remember" meaning in the context of tournament final rivalry action between the two schools. I didn't say "she'd remember" that.
2-- I don't intend to go around "coach bashing".
3-- I will admit that your complaints are justified, and I'm guilty of posting without thinking again on this one. I didn't mean to come off implying that she was a bad coach. I'm sorry to have given you reason to feel that way.
4-- I didn't mean to cut the woman down with the last full sentence. (I just removed it from my original post.)
5-- I also in my rush failed to cite the good job she did given the number of personnel she lost to graduation prior to this season.
(I have been posting on these boards for almost 8 months now, and it seldom is my intent to maliciously put anyone down.)
I don't want to get into an argument.
Further words fail me. :-[
April's accomplishments have not gone unnoticed. I think that everyone in the conference knows the history of Lakeland basketball and the tremendous job that she has done in her tenure as coach. One might remember all the players that have gone through her program and how successful they've been. Who could forget Julia who came to play basketball :) , Jill Dewayne, Casey Thousand, and countless others. April is well respected in the profession.
I've been reading WLCALUM83's posts for the past 8 months and he's a WLC fan :) I think he stated his personal memories of a great rivalry with his team. No harm in that.
April has been a fantastic coach and whoever Jane hires will have some very big shoes to fill. It's very sad to think that we won't see Coach Arvan on the sideline next season. She's the classiest coach in the league and her teams have been a blast to watch over the years.
Best of luck to her in her new/expanded duties.
Wow I didn't know Lakeland's coach had been that successful! Any ideas on who might be up for the job, hopefully they will get someone with more than a couple of years experience to take carry on her winning tradition!
The Muskies have 3 assistant coaches to choose from if the search is kept "in-house." Sounds like Mr. Oestereich (sp) has the most experience. Kristi Thill played for Coach Arvan (was a fine player in her own right--. (If they do go "outside" like Edgewood did when Edgewood hired Tola Neils--just for example) one would hope the timing would be such that things would still run relatively smoothly.
strikingviking- you obviously aren't too familiar with Lakeland women's basketball.
Sheboygan is a tough draw, but there will be plenty of applicants. I'm sure in house applications will be thrown in, but I'm sure that Jane will hire a female for the position. If that's the case, Teri Johnson comes to mind, who is an alum and is the current head coach at MacMurray in Jacksonville, IL. One might look at Casey Thousand- current Carthage assistant. The way to experience is to be given a chance. Both of those individuals know the school well and that's a major selling point with Lakeland- both also went through Arvan's program and I'm sure have taken many of her philosophys with them.
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QuoteI'm sure in house applications will be thrown in, but I'm sure that Jane will hire a female for the position.
I have no problem with that if they are the most qualified candidate!
Not that anyone cares (Alverno might not even care), but Sue Hanson is stepping down as AD and as coach.
That effective immediately or at the end of the school year?
Wow, I didn't see that one coming. Sue Hanson is another standout person in the NAC. It has had to have been a difficult job at Alverno in terms of athletics. I can't imagine trying to recruit to an all female school.
Any word on what her future plans are?
:) I have not posted all year but felt the need to say Congratulations and good luck to outgoing Lakeland coach, April Arvan. April has decided to spend more time in the classroom and has resigned from her coaching duties as of this past week. Her enthusiasm, dedication and success will be a tough act to follow. All who have known her can attest to the fact that she put everything she had into her team-both on and off of the court. It has been fun as a fan to follow the rise of the LC program in the past years and I wish April all of the best as she continues to make Lakeland College a wonderful educational institution.
First of all, this is the first I've heard of Coach Hansen stepping down at Alverno--all the best to her in whatever she tackles next. I really wanted to just add to what some of the LC alums have posted here regarding Coach A--April Arvan. Those of us who know her know that she gave her all, 24/7 or more if she could, to the rise of the LC program. In addition, there are many who graduated from LC and were given the opportunity to playDIII hoops...when they had been overlooked by other institutions. Not only were these young people given the chance to participate in an outstanding program, once their playing days were over, the connection to LC continued. I know that the alums feel strongly about the program and the school and a big reason is April. She will be a wonderful asset to the further programs at Lakeland and I wish her only the best as she embarks on this next phase of her life. I would have to agree with an earlier post where the only memories of Coach A were the LC/WLC games....how sad that would be! I have a tie to WLC myself, and I know that there is MUCH more to Coach A than just that small part of things. I will not forget that first NCAA game vs. Wheaton or just the excitement of that first "announcement show"...fond memories for sure.
Good luck to AD Bouche as she searches for the next to carry the torch at LC!
From the ex-Green Girl 8)
Quote from: libero on March 09, 2007, 12:50:00 PM
Not that anyone cares (Alverno might not even care), but Sue Hanson is stepping down as AD and as coach.
05-06 basketball season, Alverno got 3 in-LMC wins (Maranatha twice and MSOE). From what limited things I've seen, I don't think it was so much the Inferno getting that much worse the season just completed--The Crusaders had more depth to work with this last season--8 additional players on MBBC's roster--and in the last Alverno/MSOE match-up the Inferno had the lead at halftime and MSOE shot the nets to shreds in the second half to get the win. (I'm not knocking Alverno here, folks.)
Also, a 3-point shooter, (Leah Colon) was lost to injury early in the conference season. (She wasn't available to play the one live Alverno game I took in--against Concordia-Chicago.)
Hopefully, the transition will run smoothly enough.
Quote from: Illinihoops4 on March 06, 2007, 09:20:11 PM
April's accomplishments have not gone unnoticed. I think that everyone in the conference knows the history of Lakeland basketball and the tremendous job that she has done in her tenure as coach. One might remember all the players that have gone through her program and how successful they've been. Who could forget Julia who came to play basketball :) , Jill Dewayne, Casey Thousand, and countless others. April is well respected in the profession.
April has been a fantastic coach and whoever Jane hires will have some very big shoes to fill. It's very sad to think that we won't see Coach Arvan on the sideline next season. She's the classiest coach in the league and her teams have been a blast to watch over the years.
Best of luck to her in her new/expanded duties.
I'm surprised no Lakeland follower has mentioned the good job she did the one year she lost 4 of her better players to injury (if I have the facts right three of those players got torn ACL's at that time.)
By the way, her teams also did better in NCAA Div III first-round match-ups than WLC's women's teams did.
Props to Aurora's Naomi Guise on being named an All-American by d3hoops! :) ;) :D :) ;) :D 8) 8) 8)
Well, after only staying one season, the Domincian coach resigned. That cannot be good for the program. It was a questionable hire at best. She had no Midwest roots and came all the way from Virginia. She never was a Head Coach on the college level. I am not questioning her qualifications but it seemed like a strange hire at the time. Now the program is starting from scratch again at a time when recruiting is in full swing.
I think something is going on there that is not apparent to outsiders. Two coaches in two years. That is not a good way to keep a program going. Plus look at what the women's sports have done there. Besides soccer, the women's sports have had a rough ride. And soccer is having a good ride because it has one super star(go Mayra)...So what is holding DU back. they are having more success on the men's side. Is it the culture? Just asking?
Quote from: dropkick11 on March 26, 2007, 10:48:49 AM
Well, after only staying one season, the Domincian coach resigned. That cannot be good for the program. It was a questionable hire at best. She had no Midwest roots and came all the way from Virginia. She never was a Head Coach on the college level. I am not questioning her qualifications but it seemed like a strange hire at the time. Now the program is starting from scratch again at a time when recruiting is in full swing.
I think something is going on there that is not apparent to outsiders. Two coaches in two years. That is not a good way to keep a program going. Plus look at what the women's sports have done there. Besides soccer, the women's sports have had a rough ride. And soccer is having a good ride because it has one super star(go Mayra)...So what is holding DU back. they are having more success on the men's side. Is it the culture? Just asking?
I don't know that it was a questionable hire at the time. Ana Litton was the No. 1 assistant at a successful Division III program. When you're a program like Dominican, averaging a 6-19 record the previous four seasons, do you think you're going to attract someone with previous collegiate head coaching experience?
Wow! Whats goin on? 3 openings in this conference? Lakeland, Clarke, and Dominican. Who is going to get this positions?
Well first of all CLarke isn't in the NAC.. They have gone NAIA or are going. And you also forgot ALverno..SO there are 3 openings just not the one's you stated....It is too bad about April Arvan. Thoughts and prayers go to her...Class act...
I would like to clarify my earlier statement...All I am saying is that during the interview process for the Dominican coach last year , wouldn't you think it would be a good idea to find out the candidates long term committment to buidling a program. I think that that would be one of the most important questions you could ask...It seems to me if you are trying to build the program you would want a solid committment from the candidate(and yes I realize they can lie about that not that I am saying that is what she did). Not a one year and out deal...That only hurts the program worse...The former coach came from Virginia and may not have had any ties to the Midwest. It probalble made her job that much more difficult....I wish her well and hopefully it was a good decision for her and she has success in the future..I just think that due diligence may not have happpened in the last go round hiring a coach...No you have had had another year go by and you have the situation not improved at all...So that basically sets the program back two years because of recruiting, etc...
I think those things can go the other direction, though -- who's to say a coach gets to campus and doesn't find that the situation promised to him or her is not lived up to, or that the administration's support was not what he/she expected?
You can't just assume the coach in this kind of situation, is all I'm saying.
very true..They go both directions....The candidtate needs to go beyond the people interviweing them and find out the real story(research) and the people in athletic administration need to do the same...The bottom line is this hurt the program and univeristy and is a setback...And to clarify my point I was not assuming it was the coach..I think my first post hints at just the opposite
Turns out Lakeland's women's team played 2 more games overseas:
Here's the link:
http://www.lakeland.edu/athletics/muskienews.asp?article=3027. :)
The half full side of the glass regarding Dominican is that should everyone come back, they'd have 9 sophomores and one senior plus any in-coming freshmen. Koziol and 2 other seniors would be lost to graduation, but Salinas and Julkowski showed they could fill it up (the latter from 3 point range) and this poster's heard positive things about Gant as well.
If whoever the new coach is has a similar system--
Please visit the following link for details:
http://lakeland.edu/athletics/muskienews.asp?article=3063
Illinihoops 4, turns out you were right again!
:D Congrats to TJ!
Props to Dominican for landing a new women's basketball coach! :)
Heard about a Milwaukee area prep player headed Concordia-Chicago's direction:
http://jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=603775
Rockford has hired a new women's basketball coach:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2007_05/20070525c.html
6/14/07:
Another Milwaukee area prep player headed Concordia-Chicago's direction:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=619714
Here's the latest news out of Alverno:
http://northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2007_06/20070622a.html
that link is dead?
Try it again, Wydown, I left a "0" out previously, sorry. ::) ::) ::)
thanks :)
Here is an update on a playing opportunity for Edgewood's Megan Scheele:
http://edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/release.asp?RELEASE_ID=2075
Hardin-Simmons, (American Southwest Conference) web site indicates that Benedictine of IL has an early non-conference game with the Texas squad (yes, that Hardin-Simmons, which went to the 2006 NCAA Final Four and, IMHO, should have made the NCAA's last year but narrowly missed.
http://hsuathletics.cstv.com/sports/w-baskbl/hsim-w-baskbl-sched.html
Edgewood Coach Tola Neils gets some positive props here:
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/release.asp?RELEASE_ID=2078
Does Sporle have a sis that plays d3 somewhere? That name sounds familiar
yeah her sister Jesse plays at UWSP
2007-08 Women's Basketball Coaches' Preseason Poll
1. Concordia Univ. Wisconsin (9), 161
2. Benedictine University, 143
3. Wisconsin Lutheran College (3), 142
4. Aurora University (1), 122
Edgewood College, 122
6. Lakeland College, 104
7. Concordia University Chicago
8. Marian College, 83
9. Rockford College, 66
10. Maranatha Baptist Bible College, 45
MSOE, 45
12. Dominican University, 34
13. Alverno College, 19
11/16-17/07 Women's NAthCon Scores:
11-16: Concordia-WI 82, North Park 42
St. Norbert 59, Edgewood 44
Anderson 69, Marian 44
St. Scholastica 60, MSOE 53
WLC 81, Fontbonne 65. (Saw this one in person and Fontbonne gave it more of a game than that score indicates).
Alverno 60, North Central, MN 51 (New Inferno Coach Duckworth opens up with a win).
Lakeland 72, Augustana, IL 60 (Ditto for Muskie Coach Johnson)
Kalamazoo 83, Dominican 81 (OT)
Concordia-Chicago 78, Clarke 41
11-17: St. Mary's IN 83, Aurora 47
St. Norbert 81, Concordia-WI 64
Edgewood 77, North Park 43
Augsburg 78, MSOE 56
Lakeland 51, Ripon 31
Wartburg 84, WLC 60. (Saw this in person. Wartburg was deadly from 3-pt range. One of the Knight 3-point shooters hit one at the half-time buzzer that had that school's fans going wild. That shot gave Wartburg a 12 point lead at that time.)
Hardin-Simmons 67, Benedictine 55.
Lake Forest 57, Concordia-Chicago 46.
Manchester 106, Dominican 73,
Loras 67, Rockford 59.
Alma 62, Marian 59.
11/18-20/07 Women's NAthCon Scores:
11/18: UT-Dallas 77, Benedictine 62
Bethany Lutheran over Alverno
11/19: Maranatha 86, Emmaus 49
11/20: Alverno 67, Moody Bible 52
Lake Forest 87, MSOE 47
Loras 76, Dominican 70
Lawrence 72, Marian 50
UW-Stevens Point 90, WLC 42
In-Conference: Concordia-Chicago 66, Concordia-WI 58.
11/23-24/07 Women's NAthCon Finals:
11-23: Colorado College 75, Aurora 64.
U of Chicago 66, Edgewood 45.
11-24: Carthage 73, WLC 66. (Warriors came back from a 14-pt deficit to tie this one with approx. 4 minutes to play, then Carthage went on a 7-0 run of its own).
Aurora 70, Grinnell 59.
Dubuque 67, Concordia-Chicago 53.
Edgewood 60, North Park 42.
Ripon 53, Concordia-WI 44.
NAthCon In-Conference Women's Final:
Maranatha 83, MSOE 78. (Per Crusaders' press release, 'Natha was hitting on all cylinders en route to a 16-pt halftime lead and held on despite a 34-point game from MSOE's Guthrie).
11/27/07 NAthCon In-Conference Final:
Concordia-WI 84, Alverno 34.
Non-Conference:
Carroll 73, Lakeland 62 (Carroll's Wickert had 8 blocked shots per box score. Carroll got to the line 5 times as much as Lakeland and outshot the Muskies from the floor.)
11/28 Women's NAthCon Final:
Augustana IL 67, Aurora 58.
24 seconds left in 2nd: Edgewood 59, Lakeland 43 (Scheele another big scoring night, WI Eagles outshot Lakeland from the field and out-rebounded them--per stats on Lakeland website:)
Concordia-WI 68, Maranatha 52--Final (Falcons' Sopkowicz had a big scoring night. Crusaders cut the Falcon lead to 6 but got no closer, per CUW play-by-play account.)
Other NAthCon Finals:
WLC 63, Concordia-Chicago 54. :) (Emily Laete and Brittany Lindert had big scoring nights for the Warriors. An 8-0 second-half scoring run by WLC turned out to be the difference in this one.-per WLC box score.)
Benedictine 59, Alverno 52. (Inferno got to the line more than IL Eagle squad. Source is Benedictine's box score).
Rockford 63, Dominican 60. (Regents' Butler joins 1,000 point club. A Dominican last-second 3-point shot was missed--source is Rockford box score).
One more 11/29 NAthCon Final:
Marian 61, MSOE 34. :o ??? (Per box score Marian imported from MSOE--Sabers' Moody had a double double. Marian outshot and outrebounded MSOE. MSOE's Guthrie held to 12 points on the night). Thought this would have been closer.
12/01 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Aurora 78, Dominican 76. (Spartans had 4 scorers in double-figures. Julkowski's last second 3-pt attempt missed.--Dominican website play-by-play.)
Concordia-WI 73, Lakeland 49. (CUW's Mayyou had 36 points--Falcons outshot Lakeland big-time from floor, per Lakeland box score)
Concordia-Chicago 63, Benedictine 61. (Despite 30 pts from Benedictine's Curtis, the Eagles still lose. Benedictine had 30 turnovers to CUC's 21. IL Eagle squad had a last chance to tie it but a M Headen steal sealed the win for the Cougars (play-by-play acct off CUC's website).
Edgewood at Marian, ppd.
Alverno at Rockford, ppd.
12/05-08/07 Women's NAthCon Finals:
12-05: Aurora 74, Alverno 57. (Aurora shot the nets to shreds--figurately speaking--in first half, per Inferno release).
Concordia-WI 55, Edgewood 52.
Rockford 67, Concordia-Chicago 57.
Lakeland 63, MSOE 51. (Muskies' Keiper hit 8 3-pointers. Caught this one in person and it was tighter than the final score indicated until the last 5 minutes. At that point Lakeland got to the line and hit free throws and got several offensive rebounds late to put it away.)
WLC 70, Benedictine 45. :o ??? (Asked WLC's announcer about this one, he said IL Eagle's Curtis was held to 11 points and Benedictine had an off night shooting. I knew the Warriors wanted to make a better showing after being blown out down there last season, but I wasn't expecting this kind of final).
12-06: Marian 70, Maranatha 68.
12-08: Aurora 68, Benedictine 59.
Concordia-WI 55, Marian 42.
Lakeland 73, Maranatha 43.
Edgewood 68, MSOE 46.
Concordia-Chicago 69, Alverno 55. (Saw this one live and the Cougars were hot from 3-pt range in the first half.)
WLC 80, Dominican 68. (Despite a 31-point night from Dominican's Jessica Salinas, the Warriors win because WLC was hitting their 3's when they had to have them and they broke the Stars' press several times for lay-ups. The Stars cut a double digit defict down to 3 early in the second half but got no closer. Watch out for Dominican, however. I wouldn't be surprised if that squad improved several notches in the NAthCon standings this season.)
Dominican's Jessica Salinas gets some props here:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2007_12/20071210c.html
12/11 NAthCon Women's Final:
Aurora 81, Dominican 57. (Spartans outshot Stars from the field, Dominican had 20 2nd half turnovers per Stars' box score.)
(All other NAthCon women's games were postponed.)
12/15/07 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Edgewood 64, Dominican 51 (Scheele had 28 pts, Stars' Salinas held to 10--per Edgewood box score.)
Maranatha 59, Alverno 52 (Inferno cut Crusader lead to 2 with less than 3 minutes to play, but 'Natha held on for the win at home.)
Elmhurst 92, WLC 60 (ouch!)
Aurora 77, MSOE 59. (Saw this game live. Aurora used a press most of the first half, which lead to several MSOE turnovers and the Spartans end up getting a win on the road.)
12/14-18/07 Women's NAthCon Finals:
12/14-15/07 (Not mentioned in last post):
12/14: Milligan 76, Marian 57. (Sabers had 27 turnovers in that one-per Marian release).
12/15: Rockford 60, Lakeland 56 (Regents' Butler had 25 points. Rockford hit their FT's down the stretch to get the win on the road, per Lakeland press release).
Marian 79, Marygrove 47 (Sabers had 69 rebounds and outscored Marygrove 50-24 in 2nd half, per Saber press release.)
12/16: UW-Oshkosh 69, Lakeland 55 (Lady Titans outshot Muskies from the field, a 3-minute Lakeland scoring drought late in first half proved costly--per Muskie press release).
12/17: Benedictine 80, Clarke 60. (IL Eagles' Hardy poured in 23 points-NAthCon squad pulled away in 2nd half--per Benedictine's release).
12/18: Alverno 78, Silver Lake 56. (Inferno's Allen had 27 points in this game per Alverno release).
Carthage 71, Aurora 46
Elmhurst 86, MSOE 47 (At least WLC's not the only NAthCon team Elmhurst has blown out this season-- :-X)
Edgewood's Megan Scheele gets a lot of props here:
http://www.d3hoops.com/pressreleases.php?release=1686
Three 12/29/07 NAthCon Finals just in:
IL Wesleyan 114, MSOE 40 (IL squad jumped out to a 16-0 lead before the Raiders got on the board. MSOE--39 turnovers per play-by-play account).
UW-Platteville 94, Edgewood 92 2 OT's (a Guernsey basket with 5 seconds left was the difference here, per Platteville press release--Edgewood's M Scheele had 37 points).
Northwood (FL) 58, WLC 51. (Northwood erased a 10-pt deficit to win this one).
More 12/29 NAthCon Finals:
Rockford 74, Cal Tech 52.
Wartburg 82, Concordia-Chicago 63. (Wartburg got off to fast starts in both halves, per press release off Iowa college's website.)
Mary Washington 71, Concordia-WI 62. (Falcons had 26 turnovers per Mary Washington press release.)
12/30/07 NAthCon Final:
Lynn 84, WLC 76 (Lynn ratched up the D in the 2nd half--and pulled away in the 2nd half).
Case Western Reserve 47, Concordia-WI 45 (10 minutes left--2nd half)
Final: Concordia-WI 62, Case Western Reserve 59. (Falcons led 59-52 late, CWR forced several turnovers) (Falcons' Kulibert had a big scoring second half. Concordia-WI's Asia Beckum hit the game-winning 3 pointer.
12/30-31/07 Women's NAthCon Finals:
12-30: Cal Lutheran 60, MSOE 45 (A 14-1 Cal Lutheran run midway thru 2nd half was the difference--per MSOE press release).
Rockford 57, Claremont 55. (Claremont's Sasha Goldkorn missed a last second 3-pt FG attempt--source is Regents' box score).
Concordia-Chicago 80, UW-Superior 63. (Cougars were hitting 3's early, then went more in-the-paint in the 2nd half-per CUC press release).
12-31: Thomas More 70, Lakeland 42 (Thomas More shot 60% from beyond the arc in the second half, per Muskie press release.)
1/2/08 NAthCon Final:
Elmhurst 78, Benedictine 69. (A 15-6 run by Elmhurst beginning midway thru 2nd half was the difference-per Elmhurst press release. Benedictine's Tamika Curtis became that schools' all-time leading scorer.)
1/3/08 Women's NAthCon finals:
U of Chicago 93, MSOE 45 (Rout!) (Maroons had a hot shooting night, per MSOE press release).
Concordia-Chicago 80, Dominican 56 (Cougars' Bravo and Woldeit had 22 and 21 pts respectively. Stars' Salinas held to 10 pts. Cougars outshot Dominican from the floor and the Stars had 24 turnovers, per CUC box score).
1/04-05/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
1/04: Aurora 64, North Central IL 54.
1/05: Alverno 79, Mount Mary 58. (Inferno held opposition to 4 field goals in 1st half per Alverno press release.)
Benedictine 75, Concordia-Chicago 52. :o ??? (IL Eagles outrebounded Cougars 61-32, Cougars had a cold day shooting from beyond the arc, and Curtis scored 24 pts.--per CUC box score.)
Edgewood 67, Marian 56 (A 9-2 WI Eagle run late in 2nd half was the difference, per Edgewood press release).
Another big-time feather in the cap for Edgewood's Megan Scheele:
http://www.edgewoodeagles.com/release.asp?RELEASE_ID=2287
1/08/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Rockford 57, Aurora 52 (Regents had 9 steals and outrebounded the Spartans, per Rockford box score).
Edgewood 61, Loras 52 (A 15-2 Eagle scoring run with approx 8 minutes left in 2nd half was the difference in this one, per Edgewood press release)
Dominican 74, Benedictine 62 :o ??? (Nothing available on either web-site, seems like the IL Eagles have either really been hot or really been cold of late.)
Concordia-WI 43, Lakeland 41 (A Pearl Wallace lay-up was the game winning hoop for the Falcons with 11 seconds left. Lakeland went into a scoring drought the last 10 1/2 minutes of the game- per Muskie press release).
WLC 80, Alverno 32 :) (Alverno scored the opening hoop, then saw WLC go on a 22-0 run early. Inferno only scored 9 first half points. We'll find out soon enough how good a motivator Inferno Coach Duckworth is after that kind of result.)
The Warriors get MSOE on the road next, and this poster doesn't figure that will be too easy a game. WLC will have to 1) slow Dana Guthrie down, 2) keep shooting well, 3) if there's a large pro-MSOE crowd at the game, take the crowd out of it early.
1/10/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
MSOE 61, Maranatha 57 (Caught this one in person. Lady Raiders get off the schneid by coming up big from beyond the arc in the second half. MSOE led by as many as 9 points, the Crusaders cut it to 3 at one point but couldn't get over the hump. Maranatha wasn't hitting from outside much the whole game).
Lakeland 61, Beloit 56 (A late Muskie scoring run was the difference here, per Lakeland press release).
1/11-12/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
1-11: Stephens (MO) 75, Alverno 68 (In a game of runs, Stephens got in the last--and most decisive one, a 9-0 spurt late in 2nd half to get a road win-per Inferno press release)
1-12: Concordia-WI 80, Aurora 40 :o :o ??? ??? (Wasn't expecting that kind of blowout!)
Edgewood 70, Benedictine 63 (WI Eagles come back from 17-point deficit to get this win. Tamika Curtis scored 31 points, Megan Scheele 30, per Edgewood press release).
Concordia-Chicago 79, Lakeland 72 (Muskies' shooting went cold in 2nd half and the Cougars were able to overcome an 8-pt halftime deficit-per Lakeland press release).
Rockford 71, Maranatha 59 (Regents' Butler had 29 points. Rockford raced out to a 40-22 halftime lead-per Regent box score).
Dominican 92, Marian 68 :o ??? (Stars' Trent had 31 points-Marian shot 34% from the field for the entire game and trailed by as many as 25 points-per Saber press release).
WLC 75, MSOE 59 :) ;) :D (A WLC 16-5 scoring run in the second half was the difference here, per MSOE press release).
1/16/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Edgewood 70, MSOE 43 (Saw this one live, Eagles' Megan Scheele had a 24-pt night in this rout.)
WLC 85, Dominican 52 (A 12-0 WLC scoring run at the 14-minute mark of the first half was the turning point in this one, per WLC press release.)
Concordia-Chicago 74, Alverno 59 (Cougars sweep Inferno for regular season by draining 10 3-pointers in the game, per CUC box score).
Benedictine 64, Aurora 53 (Spartans cut it to 4 with just under 2 1/2 minutes to play, but got no closer, per Ben play-by-play account.)
Concordia-WI 71, Marian 51 (CUW had a 52-26 edge in rebounding, 20-1 in second chance points, blew this one open in second half, per Falcon press release)
1/17/08 NAthCon Final:
Lakeland 62, Maranatha 49 (Lady Crusaders had 23 turnovers and Lakeland garnered 11 steals, per Muskie press release).
1/19/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Marian 80, Alverno 70 (Sabers' Moody had 30 points, Inferno cut Marian's lead to 4 with less than a minute to play, but the Sabers hit their free-throws to seal it, per Alverno press release).
Aurora 62, Maranatha Baptist 44
Benedictine 83, MSOE 34 (rout!) (IL Eagles' Curtis was on the floor for only 18 minutes of action, per Ben press release).
Concordia-WI 78, Dominican 64 (Falcons shot 53% in first half, and outrebounded the Stars, per Dominican box score).
Rockford 65, Edgewood 56 (Regents' Butler had 31 points-Eagles' Scheele had 20, but cold Eagle shooting in 2nd half was a factor here, per Edgewood press release. With the victory, the Regents move into sole possession of first place in the NAthCon).
Brace yourselves for the next one, folks
(Long pause for effect. . . )
Lakeland 100, WLC 94 4 OT's (Warriors' Dillon missed a last-second 3-pointer in regulation--Lakeland's Dennewitz hit a tying jumper with 2 seconds left in the 1st OT, A Dillon lay-up forced OT 3, A Dillon jumper at the buzzer forced OT 4, and then a 7-1 run by Lakeland finally put this marathon to an end. WLC's Miller, Dillon and Lindert combined for 71 of the Warriors' points. Paulsen and Dennewitz had 30 and 23 points, respectively, for Lakeland. Warriors had 4 players foul out. Source is box score off WLC's site.)
1/22 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Benedictine 90, Alverno 59 (IL Eagles 15-21 from beyond the arc for the game, per Inferno press release--)
Concordia-WI 68, Maranatha 41 (21% 1st half shooting did the Lady Crusaders in, per Maranatha press release)
Dominican 72, Rockford 69 :o :o ??? ??? (A Julkowski 3-pt FG with 49 seconds left put the Stars ahead to stay--they hit their FT's in the end to seal this one-per Star play-by-play account) (Regents' Butler had 31 pts, 4 Stars scored in double figures. Stars got to the line more and out-rebounded Rockford).
Edgewood 56, Lakeland 52 (This one was tied at 50, but Eagles' clutch shooting in the end was the difference, per Edgewood press release-Eagles' Scheele had a 24-pt night).
Marian 65, MSOE 38 (Lady Raiders shot 22% from the floor for the game-per Marian press release).
Concordia-Chicago 65, WLC 55 (Warriors cut a 24-pt 2nd half defict down to 5, but could get no closer, because the Cougars' Marche Smith hit all her free throws late to seal this one-Warriors' Lindert only saw 13 minutes of action per CUC box score).
1/24 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Benedictine 68, Rockford 63 (Eagles' Simpson-25 pts, Ben had a hot-shooting 2nd half, per Rockford box score).
WLC 79, Aurora 67 (Warriors got balanced scoring all-around in this one-per Warrior radio feed).
Concordia-WI's K Mayyou gets some positive props here:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_01/20080123a.html
1/25-26/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
1/25: Concordia-Nebraska 89, Concordia-Chicago 49
1/26: Concordia-Chicago 67, Concordia-WI 65 (Falcons' Wallace missed a potential game-tying lay-up with 2 seconds left, per play-by-play account off Cougar website.
Aurora 65, Edgewood 54 (A 2nd half Aurora 13-2 scoring run was the difference in this one. WI Eagles' Scheele held to 13 points, per Edgewood press release).
Lakeland 55, Benedictine 42 (IL Eagles had 21 turnovers, per Lakeland press release--Lakeland had 15 steals in this contest).
Rockford 62, MSOE 47 (Caught this one live. Raiders' Guthrie hit a lay-up just before halftime to give MSOE a 30-29 lead, but a 13-2 Rockford run coming out of the locker room was the difference here. MSOE cut it down to 5, but got no closer.)
Maranatha 73, Dominican 70 (Crusaders' Goff and Nichols made crucial free-throws and Goff tipped the ball away on Dominican's last possession to secure the win, per Maranatha press release).
WLC beats Marian by 10 on the road last night. Warriors saw a 15 pt 2nd half lead reduced to 6, but were able to milk the shot clock on several possessions late, get several key rebounds and one steal, force Marian to foul and then cash in at the free-throw line to escape Fond du Lac with a win-per WLC radio account..
Congrats to Maranatha's Colleen Goff and Concordia-Chicago's Ellie Bravo on reaching the 1,000 point milestone! :) ;) :D
2/02/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Concordia-WI 74, Benedictine 56 (Falcons wore Eagles down in 2nd half, per Ben press release)
WLC 61, Maranatha 45 (Warrior women created a lot of turnovers. Shooting percentage on both side nothing to write home about--you know that when WLC's radio announcer is kidding about lids on the rims :-X)
Concordia-Chicago 70, Edgewood 59 (Cougars outshot WI Eagle squad from field, per CUC press release. Cougars are definitely on a good roll right now).
Rockford 74, Marian 52. (Regents' Butler had a 26-pt game, Rockford outshot Marian from the floor, per Regent box score).
Lakeland 71, Dominican 59 (Lakeland shot 51% in 2nd half, and forced 21 Dominican turnovers, per Muskie press release).
and. . . . . . . .
Alverno wins a NAthCon game!!!
The Inferno beat MSOE, 73-51, by shooting a blistering 68% from the floor in the 2nd half per Alverno press release. That's their first in-conference win since the 05-06 season when they swept Maranatha and beat MSOE once in the old Lake Michigan Conference.
Congratulations to Coach Duckworth!
2/07/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
WLC 71, Alverno 48 (Warriors have already clinched a spot in the NAthCon post-season tournament! :) ;) :D (WLC drained 11 3-pointers and K Dillon led 4 Warriors in double figures, per WLC press release).
Aurora 71, Rockford 63 OT (Regents went cold from floor in OT, per Aurora press release)
Benedictine 77, Dominican 72 (IL Eagles' Curtis-21 2nd half points, per that schools' press release).
Lakeland 64, MSOE 34 (Raiders shot 31% from the field and Muskie defense forced 27 turnovers, per Lakeland press release)
MSOE and Alverno have been eliminated from NAthCon post-season tournament contention.
Edgewood's Megan Scheele gets yet another award here:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_02/20080207c.html
2/09 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Concordia-WI 87, Rockford 38 :o ??? (Falcons shot a blistering 61% from the field in second half-Regents' Butler only played 15 minutes-not to knock Regents' reserve Love Morgan, but you know things are out of the ordinary for Rockford when Morgan ends up leading the team in scoring for a game-she had 14 points-all info off Rockford box score).
Dominican 91, Mt. Mary 63 (Stars' Salinas had 30 pts, Stars also outshot Mt. Mary and had a big edge rebounding, per Dominican box score).
Edgewood 75, WLC 71 (A 17-5 WI Eagle scoring run over the last 3 1/2 minutes was the difference here, per Edgewood press release). WLC still has 2 more in-conference wins than Concordia-Chicago, but. . . :-\
Lakeland 65, Alverno 45 (Muskies' Blahnik came up big in 2nd half, Inferno had 27 turnovers in this contest, per Lakeland press release).
Aurora 75, Marian 70, OT (Marian missed the front-end of a one-and-one, Aurora got a bucket to force OT, but the Spartans went on a 6-0 run over the last 3 1/2 minutes to get the win, per Marian press release).
Concordia-Chicago 78, MSOE 41 (Marche Smith was one of four Cougar players to score in double-figures, per MSOE box score).
Benedictine 79, Maranatha 61 (IL Eagles led virtually the entire game, Crusaders had a cold-shooting first half, per Maranatha press release).
2/11-12/08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
2-11: Marian 68, Mt. Mary 43 (This one turned into a rout in the second half, per Marian press release).
Maranatha 71, Lincoln 45 (Colleen Goff & Co end the home portion of the Crusaders schedule with a win-game flow similar to that of Marian game above, per Maranatha press release.)
2-12: Benedictine 84, Robert Morris-Springfield 68 (IL Eagle squad shot 58% from floor for entire game, per Ben press release.)
Marian can help its' cause big time by beating Lakeland and Benedictine (Sabers still have to play those squads once in reg season yet-all three are jockeying for the last NAthCon in-conference tournament spots).
Anyone have any explanation for Rockford's second half slide? Did their short roster catch up to them?
Just Bill, the one immediate thing I can tell you after catching WLC's first game vs. Rockford is that the Warrior women limited Butler's freedom around the basket, holding her to well below her scoring average, and the rest of the team had a cold-shooting night-especially in the second half.
A check of Regent team stats indicates that ever since that first match-up with WLC, Rockford's committed several more turnovers per game than earlier in the season.
2/13 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Dominican 71, Alverno 69 OT (Trent put the Stars up for good in the OT and then they hit their FT's to seal it, per Star press release).
Concordia-WI 54, MSOE 36 (A late 2nd half 10-2 Falcon scoring run was the difference here, per MSOE press release).
Lakeland 57, Marian 54 OT (Big Muskie scoring run from late in 1st half to few minutes into 2nd to wipe out a 15 pt deficit, then in OT a last-second Saber 3-pt attempt fell short, per Marian press release).
WLC 64, Rockford 49 (Warriors out-rebounded Regents and shot 56% from the floor in 2nd half, per Rockford box score).
Aurora 78, Concordia-Chicago 60 (Spartans had 53-28 edge on rebounds and outshot the Cougars from the field, per Aurora box score. That result gives WLC a bit of breathing room).
(Dominican and Maranatha are now out of NAthCon post-season tournament contention).
Hey, pretty cool! Edgewood is putting video post-game interviews up on their web site. Check it out. Has anyone else done this?
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/release.asp?RELEASE_ID=2358
Marian must win all 4 of their remaining conference games and have Benedictine lose at least once in order for the Sabers to stay in contention
(Sabers are: at Dominican, home to Concordia-Chicago, home to Edgewood and at Benedictine)
Benedictine wins and Marian loses today so the eight qualifiers are set. Only seeding needs to be determined.
2-16-08 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Benedictine 72, Edgewood 45 (WI Eagles' Scheele held to 12 pts, Ben's Walczak hit several outside shots, per Ben press release).
Concordia-WI 77, Aurora 62 (Falcons had a big edge rebounding and although Mayyou was hurt, Davis and Beckum had 23 and 17 pts respectively to pick up the slack in this regular season title clinching win, per Concordia-WI press release).
Dominican 73, Marian 65 (Stars' Julkowski's 22 pts leads 4 Dominican players in double figures, per Star press release. As Just Bill indicated, this loss eliminates the Sabers from NAthCon tournament contention).
Lakeland 54, Concordia-Chicago 48 (A 14-7 Muskie scoring run closed out the game, per CUC play-by-play account, box score also shos Muskies had a 54-39 rebounding edge)
WLC 74, MSOE 34 (Warriors got off to a 21-2 lead and their reserves were able to get plenty of playing time in 2nd half. MSOE shot 19% from the field per WLC box score). Unless I'm missing something, with this win, WLC assures its' first playoff game will be at home.
Rockford 64, Maranatha 50 (Another cold-shooting first half did the Crusader women in, per Maranatha press release).
Oh, to be a fly on the wall for tonight's Concordia-Chicago/Rockford game! (If the Regents take care of the ball and hang tough on the boards, it'll be close. The Regents can't afford to get into a run-and-gun game.
A Regent loss and they fall some (maybe as far down as 6th place depending on what happens elsewhere.) Rockford doesn't play Saturday.
2-22-08 NAthCon final:
Concordia-Chicago 61, Rockford 49 (A Cougar 25-13 2nd half scoring run was the difference here, per CUC play by play account).
Finals just in: Lakeland 84, Aurora 70 (Spartans' cold 2nd-half shooting was the difference here, per stats off Aurora site, which also indicates four Muskies scored in double-figures).
Dominican 61, MSOE 45 (Stars warmed up from floor in 2nd half while MSOE cooled off. Stars also held a 50-29 edge on rebounding, per Dominican box score). (Deceptive thing about the Stars' in-conference record is that 5 of their losses were by 5 points or less-another 2 or 3 in-conference wins and they would have been in playoff contention this year).
Edgewood 58, Alverno 43 (Inferno still manage to more than double their number of overall victories from the previous season.)
With those results, a Concordia-Chicago loss to Maranatha tonight would drop the Cougars into a 3-way tie with Edgewood and Lakeland at 12-6.. Aurora and Rockford are also tied with 11-7 records.
Bracket is set......
http://northernathleticsconf.com/sports/basketball_women/tournament/
Quote from: Just Bill on February 23, 2008, 09:09:06 PM
Bracket is set......
http://northernathleticsconf.com/sports/basketball_women/tournament/
I wonder if 3 more CUW "in-region" wins will boost them into a Pool B bid.
Potential psychological factors: WLC, Aurora and Rockford all go into the tournament after losses: In terms of in-conference games, of the in-tournament teams, Edgewood was least likely to shoot the 3, and Rockford has the lowest FT-shooting percentage:
Match-ups at first glance:
Rockford/CUC: If the Regents at least stay even on the rebounding and the Cougars have an off-day shooting, the better Rockford's chances. CUC likes to put up the 3 a lot. Rockford's Love Morgan has the knack of tipping the ball out to a team-mate for an offensive rebound and blocking shots. This figures to be Rockford's best shot in a while, because a boat-load of senior players will be graduating after this season.
Edgewood/Lakeland: Muskie D has a penchant for creating a lot of turnovers. How fast will Eagles' M Scheele & Co. come out of the gate?
WLC/Aurora: Too close to call:
Ben/CUW: If Curtis, Simpson and Ben's outside shooters are hitting and CUW has an off day, there could be an upset.
My take on the most-improved women's basketball team during the regular season --hmmmm---
I'll give that honor to Concordia-Chicago (freshmen Smith and Headen have made immediate impact, the former has also hit a lot of clutch free-throws)
Rockford and Dominican finish in a tie for second for that honor. (Regarding Dominican, should Crystal Gant return next year, wonder whether she'll be called upon for more scoring. With her height advantage, I thought maybe she'd get more opportunities to put the ball up inside and draw fouls. That's not a bash on Dom's coach, folks--just speculation. I saw Dom's first game vs. WLC and in 3 minutes of action, Gant didn't touch the ball much. One of her knees was wrapped, whether that was a factor :-\ however, that was the same night Jessica Salinas didn't miss a shot.)
1st Round NAthCon Tournament finals:
WLC 76, Aurora 73 :) ;) :D (Dillon and Emily Laete each score 27 pts to offset 3 Spartan double-figure scorers and get the Warriors into the second round of the playoffs for the first time in 4 seasons.)
Concordia-WI 66, Benedictine 52 (Curtis got 25, but the rest of the IL Eagles were held in check. Falcons had a better game shooting).
Concordia-Chicago 53, Rockford 41 (Regents had 22 turnovers to Cougars' 10 and Rockford was outshot from the field: Cougars' Kim Williams had a 10-pt game off the bench.)
Edgewood 56, Lakeland 53 (Eagles' Scheele had another 20-pt game. Eagles outshot Lakeland from floor and outrebounded the Muskies.)
(All sources are box scores off NAthCon site):
Concordia-Chicago/WLC: These teams split during the regular season. If the Warriors can handle the Cougar press, rebound and get and maintain a late 2nd half lead, the better their chances. (I don't think they'd relish having to play from behind, given Marche Smith's free-throw accuracy in the clutch.)
Edgewood/CUW: Although I'd like to see Meagan Scheele get to the final, I'm giving the Falcons the nod at home on this one.
Edgewood and WLC advance by identical 72-70 final scores--heard the Eagles needed overtime to get their win.
Caught the Concordia-Chicago/WLC game in person. The Cougars' Marche Smith had to sit much of the 1st half due to early foul trouble. CUC's Schwab was hitting from 3-pt range for nearly all of the half (she missed one at the halftime buzzer) and the game was tied at 36 at the break.
In the second half, the Warrior D created some turnovers that led to lay-ups and eventually WLC led 64-53 midway through. Concordia-Chicago got back in it by creating a couple of turnovers off the press, forcing the Warriors into "one and done's" and getting to the line.
In the final minute when the Warriors were up 3, it turned into a real chess match. CUC cut it to one on 3 occasions, and then the Warriors would hit 2 free throws, except on the Cougars' last foul, WLC's Dillon missed the back end of the double-bonus. The Cougars' Headen missed a potential game-tying lay-up and a Warrior player grabbed the rebound and held on till the clock ran out.
Whew!
NAthCon Post-Season Tournament Final:
WLC 76, Edgewood 56. :) ;) :D (WLC's main scoring trio of Dillon, Lindert, and Emily Laete, combined for 62 points per WLC box score-Warriors outshot Edgewood from the floor. This win breaks a 9-game losing streak against Edgewood.)
Any chance that anyone from the NAC will get an at-large bid?
Not very likely.
I think had Concordia Wis. won the tournament they probably would have gotten in at 22-6. With their loss to Edgewood, I think the third Pool B spot goes to the Landwark ruuner-up Juniata.
This poster's summary of WLC's season:
I'm glad for the 2 seniors on the squad, the feather they got (NAthCon post-season tournament title) was not quite as large as what they had in mind, but given that one starting forward missed the entire season with a torn ACL, and the leading scorer was out several games with a thumb injury, no one's complaining much. :) ;) :D
NAthCon Women's Basketball awards here:
http://northernathleticsconf.com/sports/basketball_women/
I'd like to give a "Coaches' Honorable Mention" award to Concordia-Chicago's Tamlyn Tills--
To go from missing the 2006-07 playoffs altogether to an '07-08 playoff run that narrowly misses getting to the NAthCon tournament final-quite an accomplishment, IMHO.
Benedictine's Tamika Curtis gets some positive props here:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_03/20080309a.html
This posters' latest take:
Suppose a genie were to pop up out of a bottle and promise to grant 2 wishes to all NAthCon coaches whose teams missed the conference playoffs, here's how things would go (assume all players who don't graduate in May return for next season, and barring any other unforeseen developments.)
MSOE's Coach Ott: "My first wish would be for at least one tall player to help out J Bertram underneath, second would be for more depth, period."
Alverno's Coach Duckworth: "First, a deeper bench: Second, a player taller than 5'10" would be great to land."
Maranatha Coach Morrison: "First, a consistent 3-pt shooting threat: Second, players to step up and fill the void that will be left after Colleen Goff's playing days end."
Marian Coach Neumann: "Someone to step in and fill B Perez's shoes: (Don't know what the 2nd would be).
Dominican: "Have our "go to" players come through just a bit more in the clutch: Second, just more of that "can do" attittude that they showed last season.
Props to all NAthCon Women's players who made 2008 All-Region Team! (Central Region) 8) 8) 8)
http://www.d3hoops.com/all-region/08/centwom.htm
Just found out that Edgewood's Megan Scheele made the D3 All-American 4th team squad and Benedictine's Tamika Curtis made Honorable Mention! Congratulations! to both 8) 8) 8)
News on a coaching change at Concordia-Chicago here:
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables
News on another overseas playing opportunity for Edgewood's Megan Scheele here:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_05/2080515a.html
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on May 16, 2008, 05:51:28 AM
News on another overseas playing opportunity for Edgewood's Megan Scheele here:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_05/2080515a.html
You're link isn't working. Let's try this one: http://northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_05/20080515a.html
Second time I've left a "0" out on a link: :-[ :-[
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on May 16, 2008, 04:39:30 PM
Second time I've left a "0" out on a link: :-[ :-[
You mean you re-type those? Cut-and-paste, man, cut-and-paste.
More news on recruits and the schools they're reportedly headed to:
Player's name: Prep school: D3 school:
Caitlyn Krenz Randolph, WI Marian U
Carol Cayo Lake Mills, WI MSOE
http://wissports.net/playground/tm.asp?m=894568
A poster (wisconsinball) on the WIAC boards mentioned this link and listed WIAC recruits off it.
(P. S. It'll take a while to get used to Marian's name change, eh?)
MSOE hoops coach Ott adds another item to her plate:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_05/20080514b.html
(Could there be an impending change with WBB down the road? Just speculating agian, folks.) :-X :-X :-\ :-\
Concordia-Chicago has found a new WBB coach:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/200i8_05/20080522c.html
Corrected link: http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_05/20080522c.html
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on May 16, 2008, 11:16:29 PM
(P. S. It'll take a while to get used to Marian's name change, eh?)
My mom works in the business office at Marian and she said that she has had a hard time getting used to answeing the phone as "Marian University"
Carroll is also changing to a university this summer and there are talks going on at St. Norbert about moving in that direction.
Megan Scheele's (Edgewood) European trip journal can be found here:
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/release.asp?RELEASE_ID=2535
Belated props to the Concordia-WI WBB team! :) ;) :D
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables
(2nd article down)
(With honorable mention to Lakeland-#23)
Here's news on prep players headed Aurora's and Edigewood's direction-respectively:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=775829
("Other college choices" section).
Coaching change at Rockford:
http://www.d3hoops.com/pressreleases.php?release=2359
(Regents would appear to be in "re-build" mode, with Angie Butler, Love Morgan & Co having graduated. Just my .02)
Changes at Alverno here:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_08/20080813c.html
(Inferno also recently took on a new volleyball coach. As far as hoops goes, IMHO, bringing Beth Porter on as assistant coach is a good move from a public relations standpoint, given the past high level of respect she received while at Lakeland, during and after her playing days.)
Pre-Season 2008-09 Women's Hoops Projections can be found here:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_11/20081107a.html
What do you think of the new divisional format for Women's hoops in the Northern Athletics conference?
(A note: Mount Mary and Alverno have had a long-time rivalry in women's soccer and volleyball as well as hoops, so that's the rationale for including a school not normally in-conference on the women's side.)
If anyone's interested in the D-III regional volleyball tournaments, I have a fairly extensive blog (http://uwoshvball.wordpress.com/) that covers the St. Thomas (http://uwoshvball.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/st-thomas-regional-guide/) and Oshkosh (http://uwoshvball.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/oshkosh-regional-guide/) (where LC will be) regionals. It's not bad in national terms, either. Stop by and tell me what you think.
Why does your NAC Volleyball links menu only include 8 of the 13 teams? Other than that, it's a very nice page!
I don't care for the divsions right now. I especially don't like the fact that four of the schools change divisions every two years. It's hard to build a fan base in a low-profile conference if you keep changing your format all the time.
I don't think the Challenge game makes sense when the teams will have already played each other once. If the two divisions didn't meet normally, then it would make more sense.
I also don't like the top four in each division qualifying for the tournament. It will be unfair when a 4-12 fourth place team gets in over a 7-9 fifth place team.
I only have the WI teams from those conferences on the rail. I started the blog as Oshkosh-specific. Then it went WI-specific. Now it's bordering on regional, so I may add those other links after the tourney. It does look odd that I list about half of the league. Good point, but that's the reasoning. I've never really had a national audience before last month.
And for the most part I'm with you on disliking the divisions.
I don't like the rotating divisions either.
I think I prefer a 3rd division (Central Division).
Football is a single division sport. M/W Golf and M/WCross Country, Track and Field don't need divisions to determine the AQ.
VB, M/W Soccer, M/W Hoops, Baseball/Softball and W Tennis can go three divisions. The season is long enough to have that many bids. Play single round-robin out of division. Play double round-robin intra-division. You can award wild cards/at large berths on the inter-division results for the conference tourney and AQ.
Men's Tennis (8 teams) can go single division.
Does anyone have information regarding the scrimmages from the past few weeks? I heard CUW easily beat Lawrence University.
Lakeland stuns Carroll last night! LC was down the entire game until there was less than 1 minute left in the 2nd half. Blahnik hits a bucket and then gets a steal to put LC up and hold off Carroll. LC hung around the entire game, Carroll was never able to put them away.
Blahnik was unstoppable, almost got a double-double. Nice win for LC.
M. Headen (formerly of Concordia-Chicago) transferred to Lake Forest to continue playing for Coach Tillis. Also heard the Lady Forresters edged MSOE's women by 4 points.
And, yes, those WIAC schools continue to have WLC's number! :-[ :-[
Props to WLC's Kristin Dillon! :) ;) :D
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_11/20081129a.html
Are you sitting down?
Good!
Upset of the weekend award goes to . . . (drum roll, please. . . )
(Long pause for effect. . . )
Alverno, which upset Concordia-Chicago (on the Cougars' home floor yet) 60-47.
http://www.alverno.edu/athletics/basketball/20081129.html
(Wonder if that Lakeland mojo that Asst. Coach Porter brought over has started working yet! :-X :-X :-\ :-\
WLC 64, Alverno 50 (Inferno hung tough in the first half, Warriors pulled away in the second.)
Alverno could pull off a couple more surprises yet--
Heard Edgewood's Megan Scheele (27 pts in a win over Marian) appears to be picking up where she left off.
Observations after 12/06 results:
Concordia-WI knocked off Alverno, but the Inferno kept it tight for a liittle more than 1 half again--
Concordia-Chicago had a third player (Burt) score in double figures (along with Smith and Williams) in a win over Maranatha
Lakeland beat Benedictine in OT, several Muskie players in double figures.
Edgewood beat Aurora in OT after trailing most of the game, Scheele got 25 pts, but Beckwith and a couple of others came up big late as well.
For Dominican (scoring wise) it was mostly the "Salinas and Trent" show in a win over Marian (nothing new there).
12/07 Result:
MSOE 63, Rockford 49 (Regent PBP account indicates the Red Raiders went on a 19-6 scoring run in the first half, and were never headed after that. MSOE's Bertram-26 points).
12-11 NAthCon Final:
MSOE 54, Benedictine 50. (IL Eagle press release indicated Benedictine got off to a slow start and just didn't quite get over the hump. This time it was MSOE's Cayo's (21 pts.) turn to score big.
NAthCon 12/13-14/08 Women's Finals:
12-13: Alverno 75, Silver Lake 32
Edgewood 82, Benedictine 62 (WI Eagles' Scheele-23 pts to lead 4 Edgewood players in double figures, Edgewood used a late first-early 2nd half scoring run to put this one out of reach--Edgewood press release).
Lakeland 57, Concordia-Chicago 49 (Muskies' late FT shooting was the difference here, per Lakeland's press release)
Marian 48, Maranatha 43 (Marian press release indicates Maranatha had 30 turnovers, both teams shot 31% from the field).
WLC 95, Rockford 64 :) ;) :D (Four Warrior players scored in double figures--WLC shot 54% in the 2nd half to pull away from the Regents.)
12-14: Alverno lost to Viterbo--Inferno's cold shooting the last few minutes of the game was the difference, per Inferno press release.
Concordia-Chicago is scheduled to play WLC on the road tonight. Lakeland's press release indicated the Cougars threw several different defenses at the Muskies and Lakeland was out of sync for a while before taking control the last 2 minutes of the game. The Cougars have given the Warriors all they could handle the last couple of match-ups-Warriors need to have their front-line players come up big like they did against Rockford. This one could go either way.
Concordia-WI 96, Aurora 39 :o :o ??? ???
(Falcon press release indicates Falcons came out of the gate hot and the Spartans had 38 turnovers in the contest).
Closest thing to a surprise--IMHO at this early stage it has to be MSOE being tied for 2nd in the South Division-
Look out for Edgewood--methinks the WI Eagles are going to really make some noise-barring the unforeseen.
12-22: Edgewood 73, Lakeland 69. (Even with the Muskies' tough interior defense, Scheele gets 22 points, but it was Edgewood's Beckwith that came up with some big points late, per WI Eagle press release.)
WLC lost to Loras in a tight one at home.
Concordia-WI 62, Pacific Lutheran 42
Pacific Lutheran press release indicates the West Coast squad's shooting got cold in the second half, enabling the Falcons to pull away.
12/30/08 Women's NAthCon finals:
Concordia-WI 60, Dubuque 57
UW-Stevens Point 72, Edgewood 59 (Eagle press release indicates Ashley Averkamp had 25 points, Megan Scheele 13, the Pointers pulled away in the 2nd half).
Benedictine 65, MacMurray 59 (IL Eagle press release indicates Benedictine got off to an 11-pt half-time lead, then held off a 2nd-half MacMurray rally.)
NAthCon update:
Dominican appears to be slumping--losing big to Concordia-WI and also losing to MSOE. Per box scores, Stars were plagued with turnovers in the former game, and Salinas was held to 7 points in the latter. MSOE's Cayo and Bertram had big-scoring games for the Lady Raiders again.
1/10/09 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Lakeland 63, Alverno 54 (A 19-7 Muskie scoring run over the last 6 3/4 minutes was the difference in this one-per Inferno press release.)
Aurora 79, Maranatha Baptist 66 (Spartan box score indicates Lady Crusaders committed 30 turnovers-a 14-0 Aurora 1st half scoring run was the difference here. 4 Spartans scored in double figures.)
Benedictine 66, Marian 52 (Sabre press release indicates a 17-2 scoring run over the last 10 minutes sealed the win for Benedictine).
Concordia-Chicago 63, Rockford 58 (Cougars' Smith had 25 points and Williams 12, respectively.)
Concordia-WI 69, MSOE 32 (Lady Falcons got 36 points off 34 MSOE turnovers, per Raider box score).
Edgewood 72, WLC 66 (WI Eagles' Scheele-28 pts, Averkamp 14--WLC press release indicates a late 7-0 scoring run sealed the win for the Eagles. Had to figure revenge was on their minds after what happened in the NAthCon post-season tournament final last season.)
1/11 NAthCon update:
Alverno 54, Dominican 50 Final (Stats indicate Inferno out-rebounded the Stars and also outshot them from the floor for the game.)
Are you sitting down?
Good.
Alverno 56, Benedictine 54 (from 1/13): That win already gives the Inferno their highest in-conference victory total since 2005-06.
(I hear Wydown Blvd cheering and some fans of Bre Miller, G Allen and Sorgi coming out of the woodwork, applauding.) :D :D
After losing to Alverno, Benedictine beats Concordia-Chicago 91-82. Go figure. :o
Rockford women get off the schneid in conference-beating Marian by 8.
Also, belated props to WLC's Brittany Lindert for reaching the 1,000-point milestone! After losing to Aurora on the road, the Warriors rout Dominican at home
CUC's Marche Smith scored 42 in the loss to Benedictine. It's a CUC school record and the second highest single total in the NAC's three year history.
Thought the Cougars would have 1 or 2 more conference wins under their belt by now.
1/17/09 Women's NAthCon Finals:
WLC 75, Concordia-WI 67 (Warriors' Lindert had 24 pts and their FT shooting over the last minute sealed a win on the road).
Aurora 63, Lakeland 60 (Lady Spartans overcome a 12-pt half-time deficit to get the win. Voiles and Re had 22 and 21 pts. respectively, per Lakeland release.)
Benedictine 67, Maranatha Baptist 54 (Lady Crusaders fell in an early hole, and once cut the Eagle lead to 4, but never got over the hump, per Maranatha release).
Marian 75, Concordia-Chicago 66 (Haen, Bouchard and Moody had 64 of the Sabers' 75 pts-Cougars' Smith had 27 and Schwab 21. Saber 7-0 scoring run with under 5 minutes left to play was the difference here, per Marian press release.)
Rockford 77, Dominican 72 OT (Regents had 4 players score in double figures: Rockford out-shot the Stars in the extra session-per Dominican box score.)
Edgewood's Scheele is featured in the Wisconsin State Journal as she attempts to break the school's all-time scoring record.
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/other/433404
1/21/09 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Dominican 87, Aurora 77 :o :o ??? ??? (Stars had 5 players score in double figures. led all the way and shot 58% from the field for the game, per Domincan press release).
WLC 75, Benedictine 60 :D :D (4 Warrior players scored in double figures-led by Lindert's 22-per WLC release).
MSOE 58, Concordia-Chicago 38 (Raiders' Cayo: 19 pts, 21 rebounds, Cougars held to 22% FG-shooting on the night-per MSOE release).
Edgewood 68, Rockford 46 (Eagles' Scheele became their all-time leading scorer during the second half of this contest. She led them with 23 pts, Averkamp had 20, per Edgewood release).
Lakeland 71, Marian 52 (Muskies took an early lead and never relinquished it-11 Muskies scored in this one-per Lakeland release).
1/24/09 Women's NAthCon Finals:
WLC 78, Maranatha 50 (Warriors had 3 players score in double figures, led by Dillon's 21, Johnson had a career high 15 off the bench, per WLC release).
Concordia-WI 90, Concordia-Chicago 61 (3 Falcon players combined for 52 pts to offset Cougars' Smith's 33, per Falcon release).
Edgewood 71, Dominican 62 OT (Scheele's 8 pts in the OT was a big factor in the WI Eagle win, per Edgewood press release).
Lakeland 64, MSOE 56 (Muskies' clutch FT shooting down the stretch was the difference here, per Lakeland release).
Aurora 82, Rockford 64 (Spartans had a 48-32 rebounding edge and Rockford committed 21 turnovers, per Aurora box score).
Alverno 68, Marian 58 (A 10-0 Inferno scoring run over the last 4 1/2 minutes sealed this one-per Alverno press release). This win is their 4th in conference-already the most in school history for a hoops season. It'll be interesting to see what kind of motivational tools Coaches Duckworth and Porter use from here on out the rest of the way. (How far can this team go from here?) :-X :-X :-\ :-\
1/24/09 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Concordia-Chicago 56, Alverno 51 (A 9-0 Cougar scoring run over the last 2 1/4 minutes was the difference here. M. Smith had 25 pts, per Alverno release.)
Benedictine 86, Aurora 82 OT (IL Eagles hit 11 threes on the game, Laketa Simpson scored the last four points of the game to seal it for Benedictine, per Aurora box score.)
Concordia-WI 77, Edgewood 73 (Mayyou and Wallace had 24 and 20 pts, respectively-Falcons had 17 offensive rebounds-all this offset 4 Edgewood players scoring in double figures, per WI Eagle press release).
Lakeland 67, Rockford 49 (A 16-4 Muskie scoring run to begin the second half turned this one into a rout, per Lakeland release.)
WLC 68, MSOE 65 OT (Warrior women outshot MSOE from the FT line in the OT to get the win-despite committing 25 turnovers on the game-per WLC release).
Dominican 81, Moody Bible 48
1/29 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Rockford 63, Maranatha 48 (A Regent 30-9 scoring run to begin the 2nd half buried the Lady Crusaders-per Maranatha release).
Benedictine 68, Dominican 56 (Jen Bren had 18 pts and was one of 4 IL Eagle players in double figures-per Benedictine press release).
Aurora 61, MSOE 46 (Aurora outshot MSOE 51% to 20% in the first half, per box score off Spartan site. )
WLC 63, Alverno 41 (Warrior women got off to an early 14-2 lead and never looked back, per WLC release)
Congrats to Megan Scheele who got her 50th double-double yesterday. 6th player in D-III women's history to accomplish that.
Quote from: Just Bill on February 01, 2009, 10:58:34 AM
Congrats to Megan Scheele who got her 50th double-double yesterday. 6th player in D-III women's history to accomplish that.
I'll second that--now that she's got the WI Eagle pt-scoring record-she can (hopefully) lead her squad to bigger and better things.
Other 1/31 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Rockford 61, Benedictine 47 :o (Benedictine shot 21% in 1st half to Rockford's 41%, and the IL Eagles found themselves in a hole too deep to climb out of, per Regent box score.)
Dominican 70, Maranatha 66 (Dominican used a 12-4 scoring run between 10 and 5 minute marks of the second half to get breathing room--Trent and Salinas combined for 48 of the Stars' pts--per Dom PBP and box score accts.)
Aurora 78, Marian 54 (Spartans outscored Sabers in the paint 44-14, per Marian press release).
Lakeland 55, WLC 52 (Ouch!) Warriors-down only one- committed a turnover with 4 seconds left and the Muskies hit 2 FTs to seal it-WLC release.
CU-Nebraska 76, CUC 42
CUC 63, CU-Ann Arbor 56
WLC has to play Concordia-Chicago twice in a 2 1/2 week stretch-I'm not fooled by the Cougars' in-conference record-with Marche Smith adding the 3-pt shot to her array of basketball weapons.
2/04/09 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Aurora 69, Alverno 54 (Lady Spartans used a 22-9 2nd half scoring run to seal this one, per Inferno PBP acct).
Edgewood 65, Marian 44 (An 18-4 Edgewood scoring run turned this one into a rout, per WI Eagle press release).
Concordia-WI 66, Rockford 51 (Falcons got out to an 11-pt halftime lead and held on, per CUW release)
Dominican 98, MSOE 92 OT :o (Malloy, Salinas, Trent and Budz accounted for 86 of the Stars' pts--Malloy hit a 3 with just less than 4 minutes left in the OT to put the Stars ahead to stay--MSOE had 3 players foul out-per Dominican box score/PBP acct).
WLC 83, Concordia-Chicago 57 (Warriors' Lindert had 26 pts, but this time their forwards stepped it up a bit more than usual-especially on the rebounding, 45-31 advantage on the boards. Warriors also outshot CUC 50% to 36% to offset Smith's 21 pts and Williams' 19-respectively--per WLC box score.)
MSOE, Benedictine and Dominican are in a real dog-fight for conference playoff position right now.
2-07-09 Women's NAthCon Finals
WLC 84, Marian 44 (Sabres shot 29% from the field in this rout, per Marian release).
Alverno 56, Rockford 50 (Inferno got off to a slow start, but took control in the second half, and ended up forcing Rockford into 27 turnovers the entire contest-which Alverno got 25 pts off of, per Inferno press release/PBP acct.)
Dominican 60, Lakeland 50 (Stars had a 56-39 edge on the glass, and Lakeland had a cold-shooting 2nd half-Stars' Betts had 12 pts-Salinas led 4 Dom players scoring in double figures-22-12 scoring run over last 14 minutes sealed this win-even more incredible after Dominican trailed by 16 pts in 1st half, per Dom box score/PBP acct.)
MSOE 68, Maranatha 57 (MSOE's Bertram, one of 4 Raiders scoring in double-figures. Crusaders got in an early hole, and didn't get out, per Maranatha press release.)
Edgewood 68, Concordia-Chicago 41 (WI Eagle's Scheele had 27 pts, Cougars' Smith was held to just 4 :o Cougars shot 13% in 2nd half, enabling Edgewood to break this one open, per Eagle press release.)
Concordia-WI 83, Benedictine 61 (Falcons shot 52% from the field for the game, Mayyou had 22 pts, to pace 5 Falcon scorers in double figures-per Benedictine box score).
With those results, Concordia-WI, Edgewood and Lakeland (North) and WLC and Aurora (South) are in great shape as far as conference playoff positioning goes at this point. Alverno has joined the dogfight with MSOE, Dominican and Benedictine in the South.
2/10/09 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Alverno 74, Dominican 70 OT (A Bre Miller 3 with just over 2 minutes left in OT put the Inferno ahead to stay and after that, they hit their FTs to seal it. Dominican missed a golden opportunity to win in regulation because of several missed FT's--per Alverno release). Inferno had 4 players score in double figures to offset Betts and Trent scoring 24 apiece for Dominican.
Aurora 73, Concordia-Chicago 55 (Aurora shot 59% in 2nd half to pull away from the Cougars-Smith held to 13, Williams led CUC with 16 pts-per Aurora box score).
Rockford 78, Maranatha Baptist 59 (Each time the Crusaders cut the Regents' lead to single digits, Rockford would answer with scoring runs of its own to get this win, per Maranatha press release.)
Edgewood 70, Lakeland 53 (WI Eagle squad outshot Lakeland 54% to 34% from the floor for the game, --Scheele poured in 25 points-per Lakeland release.)
MSOE 57, Benedictine 49 (Raiders used a 16-7 scoring run at the end to get the win, scoring most of those points on FT's. Cayo-4 blocked shots and 17 rebounds, per MSOE box score.)
Concordia-WI 58, Marian 45 (Sabre D stepped it up, but Falcons got more opportunities from the charity stripe and took advantage, particularly in the first half,-per Marian release.)
With those results, Maranatha is eliminated--
North Division: CUW, Edgewood and Lakeland have clinched spots. Rockford and Marian are still in contention.
South Division: WLC and Aurora are in-Alverno, Benedictine and Dominican have a good shot, but MSOE needs to lose at least once to open the door a bit wider for all 3 of those squads.
North Division contenders' schedules:
Rockford: vs. Edgewood, vs. Marian
Marian: vs. Lakeland, at Rockford.
South Division contenders' schedules:
MSOE: vs. Concordia-Chicago, at Alverno.
Dominican: at Concordia-Chicago, at Aurora, vs. WLC.
Benedictine: vs. Alverno, at WLC, at Concordia-Chicago.
Alverno: at Benedictine, at Maranatha, vs. MSOE
Congratulations to Megan Scheele!
2000 points; 1000 rebounds!
Other 2/12 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Concordia-Chicago 76, Dominican 59 (Cougars outshot Stars from the field, Stars were cold from beyond the arc. Smith, Williams and Schwab all scored in double figures-per CUC box score).
Benedictine 64, Alverno 44 (IL Eagle squad broke out to a 32-14 half-time lead and took it from there, with the help of a 68-40 rebounding advantage-per Benedictine box score).
WLC 65, Aurora 62 OT (Warriors' Dillon hit a 3 with 3:50 left in OT to put WLC up for good-Spartans were held without a FG in the extra session, W Miller, Dillon and Lindert all scored in double figures--per WLC release.)
Dominican and Alverno need to win out and hope for Benedictine to lose at least one more game to stay alive. (There's still a slim chance that those 3 squads and MSOE could tie for the last spot--but the Raiders would have to lose their last 2.)
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 12, 2009, 10:49:17 PM
Congratulations to Megan Scheele!
2000 points; 1000 rebounds!
She'll be on Hoopsville on Sunday night. 5-7 PM CST. Maybe she'll thank you directly, Ralph!
2-14 Women's NAthCon Finals:
Aurora 77, Dominican 56 (Aurora had a 49-31 rebounding edge-and guess who lead the Stars in scoring--Betts (unusual--) 21 pts, on 7 threes-per AU box score.
Concordia-WI 61, Maranatha 42 (Crusaders committed 30 turnovers, per CUW press release).
WLC 78, Benedictine 56 (Warriors shot 56% from the field in 1st half, scored 56 1st half pts, Dillon poured in 22 1st half pts, per WLC release).
MSOE 67, Concordia-Chicago 50 (Caught this one in person. Cougars jumped out to an early lead, thanks to Schwab and Smith hitting several threes, and Williams getting a couple of buckets inside. Cougars lead 33-30 at the break. MSOE's Cayo missed several shots inside, but dished out several assists and blocked a couple of shots. The Raiders finally took control with about 7 minutes left in the second half by forcing several "one-and-dones" and drawing fouls and getting inside penetration.)
Lakeland 60, Marian 46 (A 20-5 Muskie scoring run early in 2nd half clinched this one, per Lakeland release).
Edgewood 65, Rockford 60 (WI Eagle squad hit 10 of 11 FTs down the stretch to seal this one, per Edgewood release.)
Dominican needs to beat WLC and hope for an Alverno loss to have a shot.
Benedictine can get in with a win and an Alverno loss.
Alverno can get in with a Benedictine loss and Inferno wins over MSOE and Maranatha Baptist.
Suppose Dom, Alverno and Ben all finish 7-11, who gets in then?
- On head-to-head-to-head, DU would be eliminated because they are a combined 0-4 against AC (3-1) and BU (3-1). AC and BU split their two games.
- Both BU and AC were 0-2 against WLC.
- BU was 1-1 against Aurora, while AC was 0-2 against Aurora. So BU would get the last playoff spot.
Maranatha 64, Alverno 54 (Crusader women get off the schneid by repeatedly answering with a run whenever the Inferno would close the gap.--MBBC website.)
On-paper in-conference stats for all NAthCon playoff teams (and other things!)
Top-scoring offense:--CUW Fewest avg PPG allowed: CUW
Lowest-scoring offense:--Rockford Most avg PPG allowed: Aurora
Best FT%: Edgewood Worst FT% Rockford
Best FG% D: MSOE (With Cayo that's no surprise).
Most O and D rebounds: WLC
Most 3s made per game: WLC
Hottest team going in (as of today, prior to Challenge) CUW (prior to Challenge only Ben and Rockford would be going in with losses if Tournament started today.)
Correct me if I'm wrong on these NAthCon playoff pairings:
Benedictine vs CUW. (IMHO-Falcons' overall balance figures to be the difference in this one).
MSOE vs. Edgewood. (Raiders could make this interesting if their starters stay out of foul trouble. They need to have Cayo come up big on the D again and stay on the floor. Can they frustrate Scheele & Co enough on the road? :-\
Lakeland vs. Aurora. (Spartans can pile up the points when they're on, but if the Muskie D is on its' game, this one also can be interesting).
Rockford vs. WLC. (Nielsen is a 3-pt threat. Warriors shouldn't take Regents too lightly.)
I'd like to see Edgewood win the whole thing-just for Megan Scheele.
Not quite. The #1/#2 seed is still up for grabs with the NAC Challenge game. If WLC wins they get the #1 seed by virtue of a two-game sweep over CUW.
THe #7/#8 seed is also up for grabs based on the Challenge Game.
EC will be the 3, AU will be the 4, Lakeland will be the 5 and MSOE will be the 6.
Bracket is set. WLC claims the #1 seed by beating CUW in the Challenge game.
2009 Women's Basketball Tournament
Quarterfinals
Tuesday, Feb. 24, 7:00pm
#8 Rockford vs. #1 Wisconsin Lutheran
7:00pm at Wisconsin Lutheran College, Milwaukee, Wis.
#7 Benedictine vs. #2 Concordia Wisconsin
7:00pm at Concordia University Wisconsin, Mequon, Wis.
#6 MSOE vs. #3 Edgewood
7:00pm at Edgewood College, Madison, Wis.
#5 Lakeland vs. #4 Aurora
7:00pm at Aurora University, Aurora, Ill.
Semifinals
Thursday, Feb. 26, 7:00pm
#1/8 vs. #4/5
#2/7 vs. #3/6
Final
Saturday, Feb. 28, 2:00pm
http://www.northernac.org/sports/basketball_women/tournament/
All four top seeds win tonight.
Semifinals on Thursday
Edgewood at Concordia Wis.
Aurora at Wis. Lutheran
Live Audio (http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/sports/2008/6/14/GEN_0614085941.aspx?id=81) and Live Video (http://athletics.cuw.edu/broadcasts/basketball.cfm) links tonight for the CUW-Edgewood game.
Live Audio (http://www.wlc.edu/listenlive/) and Live Stats (http://wlcsports.athleticsite.net/livestats/wb/xlive.htm) links for the WLC-Aurora game.
Concordia-WI 72, Edgewood 66
Megan Scheele's college playing career ends at least two games too soon! :'( She put in 38 pts in last night's loss. Edgewood's had WLC's number the last 3 years or so. Would have been a lot of positive PR for the NAthCon had the WI Eagles stayed alive.
Heard WLC routed Aurora. The question now is--can the Warriors pull off the hat trick? They'll need to hit their 3s and slow down Mayyou.
Concordia-WI 69, WLC 65 OT (Ouch!)
Since I did it for Megan Scheele in my last post, I'll do it for all 4 of the WLC Senior hoops players, too. :'( :'( :'( :'(
Best of luck to the Falcons--they may have a tough 1st-round draw :-X :-\
NCAA Bracket Projections are up: http://www.d3hoops.com/women-final-four/09/projected.htm
They have CUW playing UW-Whitewater at Illinois Wesleyan. IWU would play Ripon. CUW gave Whitewater a very close game in the season opener this year.
Concordia-WI ends up playing Concordia-Moorhead.
Congratulations to MSOE Coach Ott on getting the NAthCon COY award!
Alverno's Brad Duckworth is worthy of an Honorable Mention as well!
:) ;) :D
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 04, 2009, 10:40:27 AM
Concordia-WI ends up playing Concordia-Moorhead.
I believe that will be fourth different Concordia that CUW has played this year: Chicago, Ann Arbor, Nebraska and Moorhead.
NAC All-Conference: http://northernac.org/releases/2009_03/20090303b.html
Player of the Year: Megan Scheele, Edgewood College
Freshman of the Year: Carol Cayo, MSOE
Coach of the Year: Jessica Ott, MSOE
Links for all the Wisconsin teams for tonight's games:
MEN
UW-Platteville vs. Hope (6:00 PM)
Live Stats: http://livestats.internetconsult.com/wheaton/wbball/
Live Video: http://www.wheaton.edu/wetn/
Live Audio (UWP): http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/stream/index.html
UW-Stevens Point vs. Cornell (6:00 PM)
Live Audio (D3Hoops.com): http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
Live Audio (UWSP): http://www.b1049.com/
Live Video: http://www.mnsportsnetwork.com/
Live In-game blog: http://www.tommiesports.com/
Lawrence vs. Washington Univ. (6:00 PM)
Live Stats: http://elmhurst.edu/~athletic/Home/M-Basket/stats/live/xlive.htm
Live Audio (D3Hoops.com): http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
UW-Whitewater vs. Elmhurst (approx. 8:00 PM)
Live Stats: http://elmhurst.edu/~athletic/Home/M-Basket/stats/live/xlive.htm
Live Audio (D3Hoops.com): http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
WOMEN
Concordia (Wis.) vs. Concordia Moorhead (5:00 PM)
Live Stats: http://livestats.internetconsult.com/uwsp/wbball/
Live Audio (CUW): http://athletics.cuw.edu/scoreboard/Basketball-VideoScoreboard2.html
UW-Whitewater vs. Simpson (5:30 PM)
Live Audio (D3Hoops.com): http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
Live Audio (UWW): http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/gen/2007/followthewarhawks_09202007.asp
Live Stats: http://sidearmstats.com/sju/mbball/xlive.htm
UW-Eau Claire vs. DePauw (6:00 PM)
Live Stats: http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/live/Basketball/xlive.htm
Live Audio (DEP): http://www.depauw.edu/univ/wgre/listen.asp
Live Audio (UWEC): http://www.sportsradio1400.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st
UW-Stevens Point vs. Maryville (approx. 7:00 PM)
Live Audio (UWSP): http://radio.securenetsystems.net//radio_player_large.cfm?stationCallSign=WSPT
Live Stats: http://livestats.internetconsult.com/uwsp/wbball/
Ripon vs. St. Benedict (approx. 7:30 PM)
Live Audio (CSB): http://www.csbblazers.com/sports/2009/3/4/GEN_0304093731.aspx?id=455
Live Audio (D3Hoops.com): http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
Live Stats: http://sidearmstats.com/sju/mbball/xlive.htm
CUW wins their first ever NCAA Tournament game 76-72 over Concordia Moorhead. Also the first ever NCAA win for a NAC team. Lakeland had a win in 2002 as a Lake Michigan Conference team.
No disgrace in CUW losing to UW-Stevens Point. The Pointers have had NAthCon's number over the years. Glad a NAthCon hoops squad got off the schneid in D3 tournament action! :) ;) :D
Quote from: Just Bill on March 04, 2009, 11:50:51 AM
NAC All-Conference: http://northernac.org/releases/2009_03/20090303b.html
Player of the Year: Megan Scheele, Edgewood College
Freshman of the Year: Carol Cayo, MSOE
Coach of the Year: Jessica Ott, MSOE
I've seen Scheele play several times against
WHITEWATER and I have to say she's a pretty darn good player. I don't mean any disrespect but while I believe none of her Edgewood teammates would play much on most WIAC teams she could play and star for any of them. Her having been named to the All Region team for the third time is very impressive. Congrats and best of luck to her.
Yet another honor for Scheele here:
http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2009_03/20090320a.html
She was also a first-team All American for us.
Here's some positive PR news regarding Inferno Coach Duckworth and one of his players:
http://www.alverno.edu/athletics/basketball/20090609.html
(Aretha Franklin's "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" playing) :) :) :)
Edgewood's going WBB coach-hunting:
http://www.northernac.org/releases/2009/2009_06/20090617a.html
Edgewood has named their three head coach finalists:
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/news/2009/7/21/WBB_0721092533.aspx
Quote from: Just Bill on July 23, 2009, 12:20:03 PM
Edgewood has named their three head coach finalists:
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/news/2009/7/21/WBB_0721092533.aspx
Surprised that with "300 applicants" this is the group they narrowed it down to. Thought it was a better job than that
300 applicants doesn't mean 300 good applicants. I think it's a pretty strong group all in all. I'd wager the Bethel coach has the best shot since he's been a head coach for some time. Although Thousand being local (and a female) might have a chance.
Here's news on a prep hoops player headed Alverno's direction:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/50897122.html
Gotta hand it to those ex-Lakeland assistant-coaches--they have a penchant for passing that good "Muskie Mojo" along after leaving Howards Grove--(witness the improvement at Alverno last season--)
Edgewood selects a new coach:
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/news/2009/8/4/WBB_0804093430.aspx
Another item put on MSOE Coach Ott's plate:
http://northernac.org/releases/2009/2009_08/20090803a.html
"Aurora University was predicted to win the 2009-10 Northern Athletics Conference women's basketball South Division while Concordia University Wisconsin was predicted to win the North Division title, according to the preseason coaches' poll."
Concordia Wisc has been one of the best teams in this conference for a while now. They put two WIAC teams on their schedule this year - one of the best and one of the worst WIAC teams - and no MWC teams. Just goes to show that coaches care less about competition and more about number of wins to increase the chances of getting an NCAA bid.
Quote from: jam8788 on October 28, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
"Aurora University was predicted to win the 2009-10 Northern Athletics Conference women's basketball South Division while Concordia University Wisconsin was predicted to win the North Division title, according to the preseason coaches' poll."
Concordia Wisc has been one of the best teams in this conference for a while now. They put two WIAC teams on their schedule this year - one of the best and one of the worst WIAC teams - and no MWC teams. Just goes to show that coaches care less about competition and more about number of wins to increase the chances of getting an NCAA bid.
About Concordia's schedule, I am not completely sold they wanted Point on their schedule. I know for most of these bigger holiday tournaments there is not a lot of say between who plays who. Most teams sign up for tournaments without knowing who is going to be in them, then get assigned games. Concordia could have requested Point on their schedule when they found out who was there, but I really doubt it since they haven't played a scheduled game in quite a while.
Quote from: jam8788 on October 28, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
"Aurora University was predicted to win the 2009-10 Northern Athletics Conference women's basketball South Division while Concordia University Wisconsin was predicted to win the North Division title, according to the preseason coaches' poll."
Concordia Wisc has been one of the best teams in this conference for a while now. They put two WIAC teams on their schedule this year - one of the best and one of the worst WIAC teams - and no MWC teams. Just goes to show that coaches care less about competition and more about number of wins to increase the chances of getting an NCAA bid.
Or the number of wins to get the next coaching job
Quote from: billys on November 02, 2009, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: jam8788 on October 28, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
"Aurora University was predicted to win the 2009-10 Northern Athletics Conference women's basketball South Division while Concordia University Wisconsin was predicted to win the North Division title, according to the preseason coaches' poll."
Concordia Wisc has been one of the best teams in this conference for a while now. They put two WIAC teams on their schedule this year - one of the best and one of the worst WIAC teams - and no MWC teams. Just goes to show that coaches care less about competition and more about number of wins to increase the chances of getting an NCAA bid.
Or the number of wins to get the next coaching job
Good call.
Opening in-conference Women's NAthCon final:
Concordia-WI over Marian 78-35 (Marian's Moody did not return to the roster this year-as for the game, Saber press release indicates Marian shot 26% from the floor and CUW had a 51-26 rebounding advantage). (Marian also had a coaching change).
Halftime score: Concordia-Chicago 28, Alverno 23 (CUC's Smith 17 pts. 8 rebounds, Alverno's Diedrich 6 pts, 5 rebounds
Alverno 61, Concordia-Chicago 56 . Final
CUC's Smith -- 26 points
Alverno--Kochanowski's 14 points led the Inferno which had 4 players score in double figures Inferno came back from 11 pts down in 2nd half and outshot CUC 50% to 32% from the field, per Alverno stats.
2 other finals:
Lakeland 79, Rockford 72 OT (Muskies came back from 17-pt halftime deficit, and then their FT shooting was the difference in the extra session, per Rockford box score/PBP acct.
Edgewood 72, Concordia-WI 70 (WI Eagle defense foiled Falcons' last attempt--CUW press release)
11/30 NAthCon final:
Maranatha Baptist 77, Marian 55 (A 23-4 Crusader scoring run which started approx. 5 min.into 2nd half was the difference here, per Marian PBP acct.)
12-2-09 Updates:
MSOE up on Aurora 74-64 15 secs left 2nd half
Raiders' Cayo --double/double-- Guthrie scored all of her pts in 2nd half
Aurora had 34 TOs to MSOE's 15 all per MSOE stats
Alverno and WLC are going to OT tied at 64!
Alverno and WLC deadlocked at 74 headed for OT #2 (will this go 4 like Lakeland the season before last?)
Final: WLC 88, Alverno 85 2 OT's (Whew!!)
Inferno led this one for a good chunk of the game.
Alverno had 4 players foul out
WLC's Miller-- career high 30 pts
Sankey's 2 pts were extremely impeccable--both on clutch FTs in 2nd OT
If Alverno stays healthy--look out!!
12/5 NAthCon update:
Lakeland 65, Benedictine 55 5 secs left 2nd half (Muskies used a late 1st half scoring run to give breathing room, then held on) Muskies; Blahnik --14 pts Benedictine --28 turnovers (source--Lakeland stats)
News about a scoring milestone reached by an Alverno player here:
http://northernac.org/releases/2009/2009_12/20091205c.html
A couple more 12/5 finals:
Concordia-Chicago 58, Maranatha 35 (Cougars--30 pts off 34 Crusader turnovers-MBBC box score)
Rockford 75, MSOE 69 (Guthrie didn't play, Rockford's clutch FT shooting the last 2 1/4 min was the difference here --per Regent box score).
Marian 75, Dominican 71 (Dykstra --20 pts--was one of 4 Sabres in double figures A late 9-0 Marian scoring run iced this one--per Marian press release).
12/08 NAthCon finals:
MSOE 72, Dominican 58 (Bertram had a double-double --15 pts 10 rebounds, 4 Raiders scored in double figures-per Dom stats)
Aurora 63, Alverno 54 (A late 16-5 scoring run sealed this one-
Alverno stats)
Edgewood vs. Lakeland:
1) Somethin's gotta give, both these teams are undefeated in-conference
2) Couple of ex-Muskie hoops players going against each other as coaches (Thousand vs Johnson).
Tip-off's approx. half an hour from now.
Lakeland 66, Edgewood 61 Final
WI Eagles trailed 49-29 at one pt, but got back in it by drawing fouls and hitting FTs --
Lakeland-- Dennewitz 20 pts -- Blahnik a double double (16 pts, 12 rebounds)
(Lakeland stats)
MSOE 55, Benedictine 52 Final (Bren and Krozel double-doubles MSOE Costello 19 pts, Syverson 11, Cayo - 6 rebounds--held to 1 2nd half FT per MSOE stats)
Dominican 74. Alverno 66 2 sec left 2nd half
(Stars' Julkowski hit a couple of 3s to ignite a 2nd half Dominican rally--Blom 25 pts to offset a 22 pt night for Alverno's Sorgi per Inferno stats)
Final: Dominican 71, Maranatha Baptist 63 (Stars had all 5 starters score in double figures--Stars shot approx 60% from the floor in the 1st half, took a 44-29 lead at the break and held on--Dominican stats)
Final: MSOE 62, Marian 38 (Cayo--19 pts and 19 rebounds Marian 25 turnovers per MSOE stats)
2 more 12/12 finals:
WLC 71, Rockford 58 (Warriors scored 27 pts off 24 Regent turnovers and outshot Rockford 44% to 29% in 1st half, per WLC box score)
CUW 68, Aurora 59 (3 Falcons scored in double figures --per Concordia-WI release)
12/13 NAthCon final:
Lakeland 50, Concordia-Chicago 47 (Dennewitz's 3 with 1:44 left put Muskies ahead, Hiben hit 2 FTs and then CUC's Schwab missed a potential game-tying 3 at the buzzer--per CUC PBP acct)
12/15 NAthCon Final:
WLC 62, Concordia-Chicago 57 (Warriors went on an 8-0 scoring run with around 8 minutes left in 2nd half, then ht some FTs late and held on for the win--Miller 19 pts, Dillon 13 pts. CUC--Smith 22 pts, Schwab 10 pts--per WLC stats)
12/17 NAthCon Final:
WLC 76, MSOE 57 (Warriors went on a big scoring run early in 2nd half--W Miller 23 pts 10 rebounds MSOE's Cayo --10 rebounds, 9 pts WLC outshot the Raiders 41% to 28% from the floor, per MSOE stats)
Another final:
Rockford 58, Maranatha 49 (a 12-4 Regent scoring run was the difference here, per Crusader press release- box score indicates Rockford's Curry & M Lawler had 20 pts each)
12-19 NAthCon finals:
Elmhurst 79. Rockford 59 (Regents stayed within striking distance until an Elmhurst 19-5 scoring run sealed this one--Rockford PBP acct)
Marian got routed by Franklin
Dominican 75, Eureka 61 (A 16-4 scoring run early in 2nd half was the difference here, per Star press release--Blom 23 pts).
12/28 final:
UW-Stevens Point 59, CUW 56 (Pointer early 2nd half 19-4 run put them in the lead, and they held on, per Falcon release--Wallace had a double-double).
12/29 finals:
CUC 59, Concordia-Austin (Texas) 55 (Cougars' Smith hit several big FTs late and Schwab and Williams hit from the floor down the stretch to answer every run the Lone Star state squad made-CUC PBP acct)
Coe 71, Edgewood 55
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 30, 2009, 07:21:18 AM
12/29 finals:
CUC 59, Concordia-Austin (Texas) 55 (Cougars' Smith hit several big FTs late and Schwab and Williams hit from the floor down the stretch to answer every run the Lone Star state squad made-CUC PBP acct)
I am not sure what type of McMurry squad that you will be seeing today against CUC. I don't think that they have the kinks worked out yet.
It should be a good test for both teams.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 29, 2009, 06:12:57 AM
12/28 final:
UW-Stevens Point 59, CUW 56 (Pointer early 2nd half 19-4 run put them in the lead, and they held on, per Falcon release--Wallace had a double-double).
Wow CUW only lost by 3 to UWSP?! What a great effort against a WIAC team, even though UWSP is not as strong of a team as in the past. When's the last time a NAC team beat decent WIAC team?
Edgewood almost beat UW-Whitewater tonight too, losing 67-64. EC led most of the game. EC beat UWW three years ago. That's the last NAC over WIAC that I recall.
1/2/10 halftime score:
U of Chicago 31, MSOE 24 (Schofield, Syverson and Guthrie have stepped up to keep the Raiders in strking distance so far.)
Final:
U of Chicago 61, MSOE 42 (Maroon women turned the D up a notch and went on a big scoring run out of the gate in 2nd half-led by 26 at one point--per U of Chicago stats)
Final: Rockford 56, Beloit 45 (Lady Regents --20-26 FT compared to Bucs 7-9; M Lawler 15 and Curry 14 pts, respectively, per Beloit box score)
1/4/10 final: Alverno 76, Edgewood 57 (Diederich had a double-double --18 pts, 11 rebounds, 4 Inferno players scored in double figures-Alverno outshot the WI Eagle squad 55% to 36% from the floor and aftter Alverno was up 14 with 4 1/2 min. left in 2nd, Edgewood made a bit of a run, but Diederich and a couple other Alverno players hit their FTs late to seal this one, per Inferno stats.)
(James Brown's "I've Got You/I Feel Good" playing over Reiman Gym's system. . . :) ;) :D :) ;) :D)
Just Bill, is this the first time Alverno has ever beat Edgewood?
According to Edgewood's preview it is:
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/documents/2010/1/3/WBK_Jan_3.pdf?id=1474
EDIT: Not to take anything away from Alverno, but the game story says the Eagles were missing four players to injury.
Here's news on a scoring milestone reached by a Concordia-Chicago player:
http://northernac.org/releases/2010/2010_01/20100105a.html
1/06/10 final:
Alverno 54, MSOE 49 (Allen --17 pts--led 3 Inferno players in double figures, Inferno also had a 45-30 rebounding advantage on the night--MSOE's Bertram appeared but had 1 rebound, 1 foul and was 0-1 from the floor --again, the Inferno's Kochanowski hit a coule of key FTs late--per Alverno stats.)
CUW 79, Dominican 64 (4 Falcons scored in double figures, Wallace had another double-double-- CUW used an 11-0 scoring run between the 13 and 10 minute marks of the 2nd half to take control and held on, per Dominican stats)
1/9/10 final: Alverno 61, Lakeland 55 (1 sec left, 2nd half) Coming out of the locker room trailing by 15, the Inferno offense erupts for 47 2nd half pts, with Allen & McComb getting hot from the floor enabling Alverno to overtake the Muskies--(on Lakeland's home floor yet!--per Lakeland stats).
Other 1/9 finals:
Benedictine 61, Marian 36 (IL Eagles broke out to a 35-14 lead at half by holding the Sabers to 20% shooting from the floor-Sabers got no clser than 17 pts after that--per Marian press release)
Rockford 61, Concordia-Chicago 56 (Curry paced 3 Regent players in double-figures with 18 pts--Rockford's clutch FT shooting over last 1 1/2 minutes was the difference here, per Regent box score-PBP acct)
Dominican 85, Monmouth 74 (Stars connect on school record 15 3 pointers-Betts--24 pts to pace 4 Star players in double figures--per Star press release
Concordia-WI 62, MSOE 47 (Falcons shot 19-25 from line-Wallace-12 rebounds-per CUW press release)
Edgewood 60, WLC 56 (WI Eagles' Decorah--16 pts-- one of 3 Edgeewood players in double figures-- their FT shooting over last 1/12 minutes sealed this one, per WLC release).
1/12/10 finals:
Marian 60, Rockford 58 (Sabers' Reiter hit 2 FT's with 6 secs left-M Lawler last second jumper missed-Marian hit 7 3s on the night--per Regent box score/PBP acct)
CUC 62, Dominican 46 (Stars shot 15% from floor in 1st half: Cougars' Smith had a double double--20 pts, 13 rebounds--Williams --21 pts-per CUC box score)
CUW 55, Lakeland 54 (Wallace FT with 4 secs left -- Blahnik missed a jumper that would have won it for the Muskies--per Lakeland release)
WLC 69, Aurora 54 (Warriors--25 pts off Spartan turnovers-- W Miller-28 pts, per WLC box score)
1/14/10 finals:
WLC 81, Dominican 57 (Warriors raced out to a 19-pt halftime lead, which Stars had cut to 10 at one point, then Dillon and Allister hit some 3s to extend WLC's lead again--WLC--Johnson a double-double--16 pts 10 rebounds, Warriors had a 48-24 rebounding advantage--per Dominican box score.)
CUC 56, Benedictine 40 (Cougars outshot IL Eagles 50% to 24% in 2nd half--Smith 20 and Leitermann 11 pts to offset Jen Bren's 13--per CUC box score)
Edgewood 62, Maranatha 36 (Crusaders had an off-night shooting-per Maranatha press release)
1/16/10 finals:
Rockford 70, Dominican 61 (M Lawler a double-double 16 pts, 15 rebounds --Regents broke out to a 15-pt lead in 2nd half-Stars cut it to 6, but got no closer. Regents outshot them 44 to 33% from floor-per Dominican stats)
CUC 70, Marian 49 (Cougars hit 13 3s on the day- Schwab burying 7 of them, Schwab scored a team high 27 to lead 4 CUC players in double-figures-a 14-0 Cougar scoring run midway thru 1st half broke this one open-per CUC box score & PBP acct)
News about a milestone reached by a coach here:
http://northernac.org/releases/2010/2010_01/20100117a.html
1/20/10 finals:
WLC 73, Benedictine 70 (Warriors led by 7 pts on several occasions in 2nd half, only to have the Eagles overtake them briefly--except for down the stretch when Allister and Neuberger got several baskets and the Warriors hit their FTs to seal it--WLC had 5 players in double figures to offset Brenn's 21-pt night)--WLC stats
MSOE 70, CUC 62 (After trailing by 17 pts at halftime, the Cougars made a rally, but fell short-- Raiders' Guthrie--29 pts and Cayo a double double -- 14 pts 14 rebounds --per MSOE stats)
Lakeland 65, Marian 47 (Muskies had a 44-30 rebounding edge-per Marian stats)
Edgewood 76, Rockford 58 (WI Eagles used an 18-2 scoring run over last 7 1/2 minutes to seal this one--
Decorah 19 pts- Edgewood 45-31 rebounding edge per Eagle box score/PBP acct)
1/23
Lakeland 53, MSOE 46 5 secs left 2nd half (Muskies' Cepa hit several 3s in 1st half--MSOE's Cayo had to sit much of 1st half due to foul trouble-Raiders made a run after trailing by 23 at half--but fell short--Lakeland stats)
Other 1/23 results:
Alverno 66, Marian 42 (Inferno used a 14-0 scoring run to start the 2nd half to take control of this one--3 Inferno players scored in double-figures, with Sorgi getting a double-double--per Inferno press release)
WLC 67, Maranatha 48
1/26 finals:
Alverno 64, CUC 61
WLC 65, MSOE 56 (Warriors outshot Raiders from the floor 45% to 29% for the game--W Miller 24 pts, Dillon 15 to offset Cayo double-double --per WLC stats)
Lakeland 59, Rockford 39 (Muskies had a strong scoring run to start the second half--Rockford committed 19 turnovers to Lakeland's 5--per Muskie stats)
1/28/10 update:
Alverno 62, WLC 46 2 1/2 min left 2nd half (Inferno went on a 10-0 scoring run to start 2nd half --taking a 7-pt lead--they were never headed after that-- 3 Inferno players scored in double figures--Warriors held to 14 2nd half pts-per Alverno stats--Alverno already has 7 in-conference wins!
Other 1/28/10 final:
Benedictine 69, Dominican 57 (IL Eagles outshot Stars 43% - 26% from field for game-per Dominican stats)
1/30/10 finals:
Edgewood 63, MSOE 61 (Raiders' Guthrie got them on level terms by scoring 8 straight points, then the WI Eagles' Beckwith hit a jumper with 2 seconds left to give Edgewood the win--per MSOE stats)
Alverno 62, Maranatha 51 (Inferno came back from an 8-pt half-time deficit in this one--Diedrich had 16 pts was one of 3 Inferno players in double figures--per Alverno stats)
Lakeland 59, WLC 58
(things got tighter at the top end of the NAthCon South with those results)
Aurora 76, Marian 70 (A 7-4 Spartan scoring run over last 1:42 sealed this one-per Marian PBP acct--despite having 4 players score in double figures and one get a triple-double the Sabers still fall short on the road.)
2/1/10 final:
Benedictine 81, Alverno 68 (Jen Bren had 24 pts, the Eagles shot 52% from the floor and went 10-10 from FT line in last 4 minutes to keep Inferno from tying WLC at the top of the South-per Alverno release.)
Anybody know of anyone who has applied for the head job at Marian?
2/3 Finals:
MSOE 53, Dominican 47 (Cayo had another double-double- 3 Star players fouled out --Dominican made a late run, but Raiders FT shooting down the stretch was the difference here-per MSOE stats)
WLC 51, CUC 44 (Warriors used a 9-0 scoring run to close this one out-W Miller another double double-per WLC release)
Quote from: hoop_junkie on February 03, 2010, 04:32:26 PM
Anybody know of anyone who has applied for the head job at Marian?
Is that a job anyone would want? Can't imagine it pays enough either to gain a good list of candidates. I have heard some people who are interested in learning more ;D
I heard they are expecting upwards of 100 applicants. Obviously, it's not a tremendous job, but the expectations are low and the previous head coach did a poor job of recruiting. When you're at a school of Marian's stature, you've got to target hundreds of kids in hopes that you will get 10-15 players. I look at how many more females attend Marian than males and I think that could lend itself to a turnaround. Marian needs to hire a young person that will go out and recruit non-stop. And in the NAC all it takes is 1 or 2 marquee players mixed in with 5-6 other decent kids and you're at the top of the league.
Quote from: hoop_junkie on February 03, 2010, 11:38:51 PM
I heard they are expecting upwards of 100 applicants. Obviously, it's not a tremendous job, but the expectations are low and the previous head coach did a poor job of recruiting. When you're at a school of Marian's stature, you've got to target hundreds of kids in hopes that you will get 10-15 players. I look at how many more females attend Marian than males and I think that could lend itself to a turnaround. Marian needs to hire a young person that will go out and recruit non-stop. And in the NAC all it takes is 1 or 2 marquee players mixed in with 5-6 other decent kids and you're at the top of the league.
Alverno's another case in point. Before Coach Duckworth and his staff got there teams like CUC, Edgewood and Lakeland were beating that squad by 20 or more points. (no knock intended) In the last 2 seasons the Inferno has improved a lot. (Look at the impact that the Inferno's players have had this seasson).
Other 2/3 finals:
Alverno 91, Aurora 67 (Inferno shot 62% from the floor in 1st half and 58% for entire game-took a 50-32 halftime lead, and the Spartans got no closer than 15 pts after that. 3 Inferno players scored in double-figures per Alverno release).
CUW 51, Rockford 46 (Falcons used a 13-0 scoring run starting 4 min into second half to take the lead for good-per Rockford PBP acct)
Edgewood 73, Marian 50 (WI Eagles had a 58-35 rebounding advantage per Marian release)
Quote from: hoop_junkie on February 03, 2010, 11:38:51 PM
I heard they are expecting upwards of 100 applicants. Obviously, it's not a tremendous job, but the expectations are low and the previous head coach did a poor job of recruiting. When you're at a school of Marian's stature, you've got to target hundreds of kids in hopes that you will get 10-15 players. I look at how many more females attend Marian than males and I think that could lend itself to a turnaround. Marian needs to hire a young person that will go out and recruit non-stop. And in the NAC all it takes is 1 or 2 marquee players mixed in with 5-6 other decent kids and you're at the top of the league.
I agree with nearly everything you said ... it's a big umbrella job. I would feel like it's still easier to get those kids to come to Milwaukee (in the case of Alverno) as opposed to Fond du Lac.
I guess I'm curious what types of coaches would be interested? D3 assistants? Varsity coaches? It'll be interesting. I have a friend that coaches at Parkside. I'll have to ask if he's interested or has heard of people who have talked about it.
I've heard a few names. Some men and women's d3 assistants. I would think anyone who is looking for a starter job might be interested. I think the Fox Cities is a goldmine area for talent but would the kids want to attend Marian is the real question? It's hard to say. I believe the previous head coach was there 20+ seasons and if he made little or no effort to recruit then maybe it remains to be seen as to whether or not you could get players to go there. There baseball team has a roster of over 50 so obviously there not having too much trouble getting male athletes to attend.
2/4 update:
Lakeland 54, Maranatha 39 3:40 left in 2nd half (Crusaders committed 21 first-half turnovers, per Lakeland stats)
With 3 more wins, Rockford can clinch the last NAthCon North playoff spot.
Concordia Chicago's Marche Smith is on the verge of setting the school's all-time women's scoring record. She needs 23 to tie, 24 to pass the current record of 1,243 points. Keep in mind that Smith is only a junior, 70 games into her college career.
The Cougars host Edgewood tomorrow and Aurora on Tuesday, so it looks like she will get to do this in front of the home crowd.
Quote from: Look It Up on February 05, 2010, 02:37:21 PM
Concordia Chicago's Marche Smith is on the verge of setting the school's all-time women's scoring record. She needs 23 to tie, 24 to pass the current record of 1,243 points. Keep in mind that Smith is only a junior, 70 games into her college career.
The Cougars host Edgewood tomorrow and Aurora on Tuesday, so it looks like she will get to do this in front of the home crowd.
That comes out to an average of just less than 18 PPG for every game she's played. If it weren't for
the attention Edgewood's Megan Scheele was getting the previous 2 seasons, Marche's accomplishment would have stood out all the more for the NAthCon. She is, indeed, a great all around hoops player.
2/6 NAthCon finals:
MSOE 64, Maranatha 33 (Raiders outshot Crusaders 43% to 24% from floor-per MSOE stats)
Lakeland 61, Dominican 42 (Muskies used a 30-7 scoring run in 2nd half to take this one-per Lakeland PBP acct)
Alverno 69, Rockford 60 3 secs left 2nd half (Inferno outshot Rockford 47% to 33% from floor for game--Inferno's Diedrich had 18 pts and was one of 3 Alverno players in double figures, per Alverno stats)
WLC 82, Marian 48 (Warriors maintain their lead in the South with this win)
CUW 64, Benedictine 61
CUC 57, Edgewood 54 OT (Cougars scored last 7 points in OT to win this one- Cougars' Smith got 30 pts and CUC outshot the WI Eagles 67% - 33% in the extra session- per CUC PBP acct)
Hey, hey, look at which 2 NAthCon South squads have clinched tournament berths!
http://northernac.org/sports/basketball_women/standings
There are 2 South spots open yet.
Scenarios:
Aurora: 1 more loss eliminates the Spartans
CUC: Best bet is to win out and hope MSOE and Benedictine both lose at least one more game.
MSOE & Benedictine: Should both squads win out, both would get in.
Who should get the NAthCon ROY award?
Although Diedrich is a solid presence in the lane for Alverno, I think the best freshman in the league is Decorah. Decorah was offered out of HS by Duluth and also had some walk-on interest from Milwaukee and other D1s out east I believe. I sense that she's a bit of a homebody and that's why she ended up at Edgewood, but no offense to the NAC or Edgewood but she really should be playing at the scholarship level.
2/9 NAthCon final:
CUC 53, Aurora 51 (Cougars come back from a 19-pt deficit to nab this win at home. Lietermann hit a couple of 3s and M Smith stepped it up in the clutch--as usual for CUC wins).
Remaining regular season schedule for NAthCon South playoff contenders:
MSOE: 2/13 @ CUC; 2/15 @ Benedictine; 2/17 vs. Alverno
CUC: 2/11 @ Dominican; 2/13 vs MSOE; 2/17 @ Benedictine
Benedictine: 2/11 @ Alverno; 2/13 vs WLC; 2/15 vs. MSOE; 2/17 vs. CUC
Dominican could spoil it for CUC if the Stars are hitting their 3s; Benedictine's D slowed MSOE's Cayo down big-time -limiting her point total in the earlier match-up. MSOE's Guthrie, Benedictine's Bren, and CUC's Smith get most of the press for their point production--yet each contending squad has more than one good 3-point FG shooter --it may very well come down to who is nailing the most 3s and tightening up the D at the same time.
Quote from: hoop_junkie on February 09, 2010, 05:24:29 PM
Although Diedrich is a solid presence in the lane for Alverno, I think the best freshman in the league is Decorah. Decorah was offered out of HS by Duluth and also had some walk-on interest from Milwaukee and other D1s out east I believe. I sense that she's a bit of a homebody and that's why she ended up at Edgewood, but no offense to the NAC or Edgewood but she really should be playing at the scholarship level.
I disagree. Decorah is athletic, but I haven't seen anything that shouts to me, "Wow! she should be at a higher level." Frankly, had EC stayed healthier this year I doubt she'd be their leading scorer. I think she would have been eaten up at a D-II. I'm not sure she'd even make a big impact in the WIAC.
Had Diedrich entered the NAthCon a year earlier-in terms of blocked shots, she would have given MSOE's Carol Cayo a good run for her money for the '09 ROY award. IMHO WLC's Dillon enters the picture this year because she's a 3-point threat who has sparked some scoring rallies for the Warriors on a couple of occasions this season.
First of all, Decorah would not get eaten up at a DII. She's the best freshman in a lower level DIII conference. Most kids that can play at the DII level are not going to "wow" you. And don't put the WIAC on a pedestal that it doesn't belong on by saying that Decorah wouldn't make that big of an impact in the WIAC if she played in that league. She would start for most of those teams and would have a big impact compared to other freshman in that league. The question at hand here is whether or not she's the best freshman in the NAC and I say without question she should be freshman of the year.
Agreed that she's the best freshman in the NAC. She got my vote in the poll at the top of the page.
As a freshman, she would likely start for Superior, Platteville and Oshkosh, but not the other WIAC schools. Honestly, very few freshman start in the WIAC anyway.
No need to be defensive. She's an excellent player and fun to watch. I just disagree with your assessment that she's playing at a level below where she belongs. I think she's found a ideal level for her skills and abilities.
Basically what I was getting at is that she has the potential to play at a higher level. And she would start for those schools you mentioned and would probably start at Stout as well. I think it's great when kids go the d3 route and are able to have a more prominent role on a team, rather than go somewhere that's not right for them just because there's scholarship $ involved. I think most people are aware that there are a number of good players in d3 that don't play at the d2 or d1 level and could and my point here was that Decorah could play at that level if she wanted to. Anyways, no need to exhaust this topic but we obviously agree that she is the best freshman in the league.
2/11/10 finals:
Benedictine 74, Alverno 65 (IL Eagles' Arias a double-double 17 pts-10 rebounds-
Eagles hit 7 3s on the night, their clutch FT shooting late in thegame sealed this one-per Alverno stats)
CUC 65, Dominican 49 (M Smith a double double 17 pts-16 rebounds-- Cougars hit 10 3s in this one-Stars committed 20 turnovers-Cougars used a 17-8 scoring run early in 2nd half to take the lead for good-per
Dominican stats-PBP acct)
Aurora 72, WLC 69
CUW 78, Marian 47
Edgewood 52, Lakeland 51
2/13 updates Lakeland 51, Marian 33 approx. 9 min left 2nd half
CUC 48 MSOE 38 Approx 10 min left 2nd half
2/13 finals:
Dominican 59, Aurora 50
CUC 69, MSOE 59 (a brief hot scoring run for the Cougars during 2nd half was difference here)
Lakeland 68, Marian 44 (a 12-0 Muskie scoring run midway thru 2nd half broke this one open-per Lakeland PBP acct)
Benedictine 64, WLC 62
Marian is eliminated from playoff contention. A CUW win over Maranatha eliminates the Crusaders and puts Rockford in with the final berth in the North. In the South, CUC moves ahead of MSOE and into a virtual tie with Benedictine.
2/13 final:
CUW 68, Maranatha 49 (That result puts Rockford in the playoffs!)
(That splash you''re hearing is Jim Rockford giving Beth Davenport a Gatorade soaking -with Dennis Becker as a witness).
An item to put in the "Somethin's gotta give" department:
Wouldntcha know-Benedictine's last 2 games are against the 2 squads they are fighting the closest for playoff positioning.
Tie-breakers-CUC split with MSOE - CUC beat Benedictine their earlier game, Benedictine beat MSOE earlier.
Too early to think about a 3 way tie just yet.
2/15 update:
Dominican 36, Alverno 36 half
Final: Alverno 72, Dominican 66 (A 14-8 Inferno scoring run over last 4 3/4 minutes sealed this win, per Dominican PBP acct)
Alverno and WLC are now tied for the NAthCon South lead.
2/15 Final:
Benedictine 69, Alverno 55 (IL Eagles clinch a playoff spot with that win)
(talk about putting it on the line--all South games have something riding on them)
MSOE: Needs a win over Alverno at home, and a CUC loss at Benedictine
CUC: A win puts the Cougars in. (Since they beat the IL Eagles earlier, they'd be in 3rd place.) A loss and a Raider win, MSOE would get in-having split with Alverno, the Cougars were swept by the Inferno).
Alverno: A win and a WLC loss to Dominican, and the Inferno take the South title.
WLC: In the event of a 2-way tie with Alverno, the Warriors take the title, having split with Benedictine (IL Eagles swept Alverno)
A Benedictine win and losses by WLC and Alverno create a 3-way tie at the top.
2/16 final:
Maranatha 70, Rockford 60 (Lady Crusaders shot 56% in 2nd half --Peotter put in 27 pts, per Regent box score) Maranatha escaped the North basement with that win.
Should Lakeland and Edgewood end up in a 2-way tie, Lakeland would get the higher seed, having beaten Concordia-Chicago (WI Eagles lost to CUC in OT)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 17, 2010, 06:26:39 AM
Should Lakeland and Edgewood end up in a 2-way tie, Lakeland would get the higher seed, having beaten Concordia-Chicago (WI Eagles lost to CUC in OT)
Only if they both win. If they would both lose, then EC would hold the tiebreak by virtue of their victory over CUW.
So really, the seeding rides solely on the LC/CUW game. LC wins they are #2. LC loses they are #3.
I stand corrected.
2/17 updates:
MSOE 33, Alverno 21 --half
WLC 43, Dominican 38 --half
2/17 finals:
MSOE 69, Alverno 57 (Cayo had a double-double-13 rebounds/25 pts--Diedrich was saddled with early foul trouble, Alverno had 21 turnovers to MSOE's 14, and the Raiders' clutch FT shooting down the stretch sealed a win for them--now their eyes are on Lisle, IL awaiting the CUC/Benedictine outcome-MSOE stats)
WLC 96, Dominican 61 (Warriors hit 13 3s and had a 41-30 rebounding edge--WLC stats)
More finals:
Lakeland 72, CUW 66
Rockford 67, Marian 58
And the last NAthCon South playoff entrant is. . . .
(drum roll, please. . . )
MSOE
Benedictine beat Concordia-Chicago 81-69 (IL Eagles shot 61% from floor in 1st half, per CUC stats) Cougars are eliminated.
NAC North/South Challenge
Saturday, Feb. 20, 2010
#1: WLC @ CUW, 2pm (winner/loser doesn't matter for seeding. Why on Earth even play this game?)
#2: Lakeland @ Ben., 2pm (see above)
#3: Alverno @ Edgewood, 2pm (winner will be the overall #5 seed, loser #6)
#4: Rockford @ MSOE, 2pm (winner will be the overall #7 seed, loser #8)
#5: Maranatha @ CUC, 2pm
#6: Aurora @ Marian, 3pm
Mt. Mary @ #7 Dominican, 2pm
NAC Tournament
Quarterfinals
Wednesday, Feb. 24, 7 p.m.
No. 8 TBD at No. 1 Concordia Wisconsin
No. 7 TBD at No. 2 Wisconsin Lutheran
No. 6 TBD at No. 3 Lakeland
No. 5 TBD at No. 4 Benedictine
Semifinals
Friday, Feb. 26, 7 p.m.
1/8 vs. 4/5
2/7 vs. 3/6
Final
Saturday, Feb. 27, 7 p.m.
This posters' take on the two vital NAthCon challenge games:
I expect Edgewood to be more than ready for Alverno this time-the longer the Inferno's Diedrich stays out of foul trouble the better Alverno's chances. Allen and McComb have been consistent scorers all season. Going with Eagles at home.
MSOE's Guthrie didn't play in the first match-up vs. the Regents, per PBP acct, though Rockford led virtually all of the 2nd half, it was still a 1-pt game with over 2 minutes to play before the Regents' charity stripe shooting sealed that win for them. M Lawler & Curry vs. Cayo & Guthrie (pt production) should be interesting. (possible X-factors, MSOE's other 3-point shooters, should they come up big. This one's too close to call.
NAthCon Challenge score update:
MSOE 32, Rockford 27 half
Final: Rockford 62, MSOE 59 (Rockford closed out this game with a 15-8 scoring run over the last 6 1/2 minutes, --Raiders committed 23 turnovers and Rockford was 18-24 at thee FT line compared to MSOE's 6-10 per MSOE stats)
Another NAthCon Challenge final:
Edgewood 72, Alverno 43 (WI Eagles outshot Alverno 42% to 26% from the floor, per Edgewood stats)
1st round NAthCon tournament pairiings are as follows:
#8 MSOE @ #1 Concordia WI: (Falcons shot poorly in their Challenge Game loss. They like to go the "divide and conquer" route with their point production-MSOE's got a shot if CUW gets off to another slow start and Cayo stays out of foul trouble-can't see CUW losing at home).
#7 Rockford @ #2 WLC: (Potential "trap game" for the Warriors, if they can run on Rockford and their beyond the arc shooters are hitting, they'll be in good shape, but with Curry, the Lawlers & Co, Rockford won't go down easy.) WLC at home in a tight one.
#6 Alverno @ #3 Lakeland: (Earlier matchup, Inferno trailed by 15 at halftme on the road, and came back and won-the longer Diedrich stays out of foul trouble, the more interesting this game figures to be--who does Alverno assign their best defensive player (Sorgi) to? Pick--Lakeland
#5 Edgewood @ #4 Benedictine: (Going with Edgewood, only because the WI squad doesn't rely on the 3s like Benedictine does--although if Bren has another big game point-wise and her beyond the arc-shooting teammates are hitting, the squad from the Land of Lincoln can take this one).
NAthCon Statistical Odds & Ends: (In-Conference only)
Best Offense (Scoring): WLC
Lowest Offense (Scoring): Rockford
Best Defense (fewest avg PPG allowed): Lakeland
Worst Defense: (most PPG allowed): Rockford
Team most likely to hoist a 3: Benedictine
Team least likely to hoist a 3: Rockford
Highest Rebounding Margin: Edgewood
Lowest Rebounding Margin: Lakeland
Best FT shooting team: MSOE
Worst FT shooting team: Benedictine
Halftime score: Benedictine 27, Edgewood 26
Halftime score Lakeland 25, Alverno 23
Benedictine has beaten Edgewood, couldn't get the exact final.
Alverno and Lakeland are in OT
Final: WLC 52, Rockford 37
BU 52, EC 49
LC beat AC 67-61. Diedrich from AC had 13 blocked shots!
Semi-final pairings:
Lakeland @ WLC
Benedictine vs. MSOE/CUW winner
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 24, 2010, 10:42:22 PM
Semi-final pairings:
Lakeland @ WLC
Benedictine vs. MSOE/CUW winner
CUW won 59-53
2/26 NAthCon Playoff Finals:
Lakeland 58, WLC 47
Benedictine 53, CUW 50
Final-Benedictine at Lakeland
My take on Benedictine/Lakeland:
Muskie press release indicated that that squad did a good job denying WLC's Laete the ball inside during the game.
X-factors: How consistent will Dennewitz and Eisner continue to be? For Benedictine, who steps up if Bren is having an off night?
Pick-Lakeland at home in a tight one.
NAthCon Tournament Final Update:
Lakeland 71, Benedictine 60 3 secs left 2nd half (Muskies got off to a fast start, got a double digit lead-Benedictine cut it down to 5 with less than a minute to go in the game, but Lakeland hit their FTs to get the win-Lakeland stats.)
Congrats to LC...NAC Conference Tourney Champs! Great performance...keep it up! :D
Just wanted to pass kudos to Alverno's Rachel Diedrich and MSOE's Carol Cayo (who finish 6th and 16th in the nation in number of blocked shots for the regular season (thru games of 2/28/10)!
:) ;) :D :) ;) :D
Saw Marian hired a new coach. Bill Peters, the head coach from Ripon HS. Ripon is 3-18 this year and Peters is a Marian alum. Interesting to see if that program will change any. Going to need to start recruiting now if they want to have a chance at bringing anyone in at all for next season. I would've thought they were going to hire someone whose been at the college level and that has good recruiting ties. Thoughts?
It'll also depend on how many of this years' non-seniors he can retain as well. If he can get more depth for next year it'll be a big help but its' going to take some time. (One can only do so much with just 8 players available.)
Quote from: hoop_junkie on March 04, 2010, 01:18:51 PM
Saw Marian hired a new coach. Bill Peters, the head coach from Ripon HS. Ripon is 3-18 this year and Peters is a Marian alum. Interesting to see if that program will change any. Going to need to start recruiting now if they want to have a chance at bringing anyone in at all for next season. I would've thought they were going to hire someone whose been at the college level and that has good recruiting ties. Thoughts?
I guess I'm going to have to get on your bandwagon junkie with being critical and say ...
WTH?????
How could this be a good hire?
He never went to the State Tournament with Taylor Wurtz and Erin Lind ... heck, didn't even get to Sectional Finals.
No recruiting experience ... heck some might say little coaching experience from watching them play during the Taylor Wurtz era.
They needed a young, hungry college coach looking for that first job who was trying to prove themselves. If they view it as anything more than a first-job position; they're looking at themselves the wrong way.
To me getting an alum means nothing, not to mention someone that already lives in Ripon. Those characteristics might be nice in Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, or even the WIAC schools ... but it is of no advantage to a school like Marian.
I've been told they really didn't explore other people either ... have you heard the same?
I don't think Marian is particularily serious about building a contender in women's basketball. The fact that he's an alum, lives nearby and has family roots tells me that Marian was more interested in finding a coach who would stay for an extended period of time, then they were with building a winner. They probably got their wish.
Quote from: Just Bill on March 16, 2010, 02:11:12 PM
I don't think Marian is particularly serious about building a contender in women's basketball. The fact that he's an alum, lives nearby and has family roots tells me that Marian was more interested in finding a coach who would stay for an extended period of time, then they were with building a winner. They probably got their wish.
No; you're absolutely right. That is exactly what they were looking for. Which to me doesn't make a lot of sense other than you don't have to go looking for a coach every three years.
I was told of two people who expressed interest who I know would have been VERY strong candidates who never got a call back. So you're right; there was no effort to put together a winner.
has anyone heard that Rachel Diedrich of alverno is transferring to lakeland?
Quote from: jam8788 on April 12, 2010, 04:49:57 PM
has anyone heard that Rachel Diedrich of alverno is transferring to lakeland?
A-- with Blahnik graduating that would make sense--
B-- ("if you can't beat 'em, join 'em-- :-X :-\) (Inferno lost to the Muskies in the playoffs)
Quote from: billys on March 16, 2010, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: hoop_junkie on March 04, 2010, 01:18:51 PM
Saw Marian hired a new coach. Bill Peters, the head coach from Ripon HS. Ripon is 3-18 this year and Peters is a Marian alum. Interesting to see if that program will change any. Going to need to start recruiting now if they want to have a chance at bringing anyone in at all for next season. I would've thought they were going to hire someone whose been at the college level and that has good recruiting ties. Thoughts?
I guess I'm going to have to get on your bandwagon junkie with being critical and say ...
WTH?????
How could this be a good hire?
He never went to the State Tournament with Taylor Wurtz and Erin Lind ... heck, didn't even get to Sectional Finals.
No recruiting experience ... heck some might say little coaching experience from watching them play during the Taylor Wurtz era.
They needed a young, hungry college coach looking for that first job who was trying to prove themselves. If they view it as anything more than a first-job position; they're looking at themselves the wrong way.
To me getting an alum means nothing, not to mention someone that already lives in Ripon. Those characteristics might be nice in Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, or even the WIAC schools ... but it is of no advantage to a school like Marian.
I've been told they really didn't explore other people either ... have you heard the same?
Looks like I'm a couple months behind on my response, but I was told that the #1 concern was that the new coach would be expected to bring in numbers, which is why it's such an odd hire. I don't get it either, but you know what they say, "success ends where contentment begins".
Aurora head coach Michelle Roof has left to take the head job at North Central College, according to the story on the D3Hoops.com notables.
Rumor is that Emily Decorah is leaving Edgewood to walk on at UWM. This sounds realistic, as UWM gave her the option of walking on coming out of HS. If this is true, this is a BIG blow to Edgewood.
There is no bigger mess in the state in Women's Basketball than UW-Milwaukee.
She's better off staying at Edgewood. There's a reason Milwaukee's entire staff of assistants left this summer.
I believe that decision came from the athletic director. There's definitely a lot of pressure on their program right now. I don't see them getting it turned around this year. This could be it for Botham.
Quote from: hoop_junkie on August 05, 2010, 10:56:52 PM
I believe that decision came from the athletic director. There's definitely a lot of pressure on their program right now. I don't see them getting it turned around this year. This could be it for Botham.
Not at all. There is no athletic director there, George Koonce got fired. There's an interim in place.
All of the assistants left cause it's a mess.
Quote from: billys on August 06, 2010, 03:00:01 PM
Quote from: hoop_junkie on August 05, 2010, 10:56:52 PM
I believe that decision came from the athletic director. There's definitely a lot of pressure on their program right now. I don't see them getting it turned around this year. This could be it for Botham.
Not at all. There is no athletic director there, George Koonce got fired. There's an interim in place.
All of the assistants left cause it's a mess.
To be fair, Koonce resigned. His wife passed away from cancer last October, leaving him the sole care-giver for his two children. He decided he could not hold down an AD position with the larger family committment.
http://milwaukee.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2010/05/31/daily19.html
Quote from: Just Bill on August 06, 2010, 03:05:07 PM
Quote from: billys on August 06, 2010, 03:00:01 PM
Quote from: hoop_junkie on August 05, 2010, 10:56:52 PM
I believe that decision came from the athletic director. There's definitely a lot of pressure on their program right now. I don't see them getting it turned around this year. This could be it for Botham.
Not at all. There is no athletic director there, George Koonce got fired. There's an interim in place.
All of the assistants left cause it's a mess.
To be fair, Koonce resigned. His wife passed away from cancer last October, leaving him the sole care-giver for his two children. He decided he could not hold down an AD position with the larger family committment.
http://milwaukee.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2010/05/31/daily19.html
He was asked to resign. They allowed him to leave with some public dignity but all the "reasons" will never come out. He was in so far over his head the department was headed to the tank. There's a reason he was initially fighting his "leave" and then decided he needed to spend time with his family. I have great sympathy for his personal situation but he was dismissed from his job and given the opportunity to save face.
Neither here nor there ... I just think Emily Decorah is better off staying at Edgewood.
Quote from: jam8788 on April 12, 2010, 04:49:57 PM
has anyone heard that Rachel Diedrich of alverno is transferring to lakeland?
Saw her name listed on Lakeland's women's volleyball roster.
Roof's move inspired players to transfer. Gifford is now at Concordia in Mequon, WI.
If anything it's the reverse as Becky Gifford decided to transfer long before Roof left Aurora.
One for the "Opening Night Good News/Not So Good News" Dept.
Edgewood beats Elmhurst by 6, but the WI Eagles' Amber Hemp rolls an ankle toward the end of the first half--Ouch!
11/24 NAthCon in-conference final:
Concordia-WI 57, Marian 53
Marian had a 52-37 edge on the boards, but the Sabers also committed 28 turnovers to CUW's 16 and had 2 players foul out late. Falcons outshot Marian from the floor. (Marian stats).
Rockford/Concordia-Chicago just underway as I post:
Same for CUW/Edgewood:
Rockford 16, CUC 13 10;06 left 1st half
Edgewood 20, CUW 16 8:19 left 1st half
NAthCon half-time scores:
Rockford 45, CUC 29
Edgewood 38, CUW 22
Rockford 66, CUC 40 10 min left 2nd half
Edgewood 48, CUW 34 12:11 left 2nd half
Rockford 84, CUC 56 Final
Rockford-- 5 players scored in double figures
M Lawler 10 pts, 13 rebounds
CUC-- Smith 29 pts.
Edgewood 65, CUW 55 1:50 left 2nd half
Edgewood 71, CUW 65 Final (late Falcon rally falls short)
Another final just in:
Lakeland 67, Alverno 57
Lakeland --Magee 10 pts 10 rebounds
Alverno--McComb 15 rebounds, Allen 20 pts
(Lakeland stats)
Joining Benedictine/MSOE in progress:
Also intend to look in on CUC/Dominican:
MSOE 22, Benedictine 19, 9:53 left in 1st half
Dominican 16, CUC 14 approx 11 1/2 min left in 1st half
MSOE 38, Benedictine 35 - half (Raiders' Cayo had to sit for much of the half after picking up her 2nd foul)
Dominican 39, CUC 27 --half
Benedictine 60, MSOE 51 10 1/2 min left in 2nd half
Dominican 54, CUC 34 13:23 left 2nd half
1st Final: Benedictine 80, MSOE 69
MSOE --Miller 22 pts, 10 rebounds before fouling out late-Cayo also had a double double
Benedictine --Conerty 17 pts, 4 IL Eagles scored in double figures (MSOE stats)
An MSOE scoring drought midway thru 2nd was the difference here.
Dominican 81, CUC 59 --Final
CUC -- Smith and Murphy 10 pts each
Dominican --Christofferson 24 pts.
(source --Star stats)
Final WLC 69, Alverno 54 (Caught the last 2 minutes of this one, Inferno had it much closer then that when I joined in--Warriors hit their FTs late to seal it)
WLC -- E Laete 19 pts, 15 rebounds, 4 players scored in double figures
(Alverno stats)
Marian/Edgewood up shortly:
(Also intend to look in on MSOE/Dominican)
Marian/Edgewood delayed 30 minutes due to weather.
Dominican 22, MSOE 10 midway thru first half
Dominican 33, MSOE 18 Half
Update on another NAthCon game:
CUW 33, Lakeland 18 half
Dominican 39, MSOE 26 10 1/2 min. left 2nd half
CUW 49, Lakeland 28, 11 1/2 min, left 2nd half
CUW 66, Lakeland 47 Final (Muskes had an off-night shooting--27% from floor, 22 turnovers, --CUW 43%, 17 turnovers respectively--per Lakeland stats)
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Dominican 56, MSOE 49 Final (Late Raider ralley falls short, --Star stats)
NathCon vs. other conferences (12/21/10).
vs. Independent - 3-0
vs. SCIAC - 2-0
vs. HCAC - 1-0
vs. OAC - 1-0
vs. SLIAC - 4-1
vs. UMAC - 2-1
vs. UAA - 1-1
vs. CCIW - 5-7
vs. MWC - 4-7
vs. MIAA - 1-2
vs. IIAC - 1-2
vs. WIAC - 2-5
vs. NCAA D-III - 27-26 (.509)
vs. NAIA II - 0-2
vs. NCCAA - 3-0
vs. All - 30-28 (.517)
12/28/10 Final:
Concordia-Chicago 57, Lakeland 53
CUC-- Smith 27 pts
(Cougar PBP account indicates CUC scored the last 14 pts of the game.)
Alverno/Marian U up shortly:
Also will look in on CUW/CUC:
Alverno 20, Marian 14 9 1/2 min left 1st half
CUW 15, CUC 8 12 min left 1st half
Alverno 36, Marian 30 Half
CUW 30, CUC 19 Half
Alverno 51, Marian 49 just over 9 min left 2nd half
CUW 46, CUC 33 midway thru 2nd half
Alverno 64, Marian 54 4:43 left in 2nd
CUW 56, CUC 49 1 1/2 min left in 2nd
Concordia-Chicago vs. Benedictine on deck:
Benedictine 13, CUC 13 11 1/2 min left 1st half
Benedictine 29, Concordia-Chicago 22 Half
Benedictine 40, Concordia-Chicago 32 10 min left 2nd half
Benedictine 60, Concordia-Chicago 44 Final
A 13-2 scoring run by Benedictine in the first hafl gave the IL Eagles all the cushion they needed.
Benedictine: Conerty --19 pts, (hit 5 3s) --IL Eagle stats
Alverno/Dominican joined in progress
Stars up 19-8 11 1/4 min left 1st half
Dominican 44, Alverno 22 Half
Dominican 61, Alverno 39, Just over 10 min left in 2nd half
Dominican 70, Alverno 59 Final:
Dominican hit 10 3's
Stars' Christofferson-- 20 pts
Inferno ==Allen 22 pts
per Dominican stats
Concordia-Chicago/Alverno on deck:
Concordia-Chicago 10, Alverno 7 Just over 9 1/2 min left 1st half
Concordia-Chicago 23, Alverno 21 Half
Concordia-Chicago 37, Alverno 35 9 1/4 min left in 2nd
Concordia-Chicago 59, Alverno 49 Final
CUC --Smith 22 pts, 9 rebounds
Rickett 10 pts
Joining Benedictine/Dominican and Edgewood/Alverno in progress:
Dominican 16, Benedictine 10 Midway thru 1st half
Edgewood 12, Alverno 9 11 1/4 min left 1st half
Dominican 41, Benedictine 25 Half
Edgewood 25, Alverno 19 half
Dominican 58, Benedictine 41 midway thru 2nd half
Edgewood 27, Alverno 23 under 16 min left in 2nd half
Dominican 81, Benedictine 68 Final
Dominican: Hit 12 shots from beyond the arc-- Christofferson 25 and Kaminska 22 pts, respectively-Stars stats. Home squad broke out to a big lead early and held it throughout.
Edgewood 50, Alverno 43 Final
FG% Edgewood 35%
Alverno 30%
WI Eagles hit FTs late to get distance and seal this one.
(There's room for a clean joke about unkind rims, but I'm not toching it. . . :-X)
Maranatha/WLC up shortly:
(Could be a trap game for the Warriors if Morrison, DeLozier or anyone else is allowed to step up bigger than usual--or the Warriors come out cold.)
WLC 24, Maranatha 10 Approx. 10 min left in 1st half
WLC 54, Maranatha 21 Half
Edgewood 27, Lakeland 15 Half
(will stay with this one)
Edgewood 37, Lakeland 26 12 1/2 min left 2nd half
WLC 78, Maranatha 40 Less than 9 min left
(Warriors' E Laete 27 pts already, Crusaders had 17 first half turnovers)
Edgewood 55, Lakeland 41 18 seconds left 2nd half
Edgewood had a big advantage on rebounds and had a 12-4 edge on made FTs per WI Eagle stats
One more final:
Benedictine 58, Aurora 44 IL Eagles get another win at home
Joining Marian/Benedictine just underway:
Benedictine 14, Marian 12 Just less than 12 min left 1st half
Benedictine 35, Marian 30 Half
(Benedictine got to the line a lot more than Marian did. Despite a boatload of turnovers, Marian's hanging in because the Sabers have drained several 3s so far--and the IL Eagles haven't been allowed to run much to this point).
Other halftime scores;
Concordia-Chicago 38, WLC 36 (Cougars having a better day shooting from the field so far-from quick stat look)
Concordia-WI 31, MSOE 26
(This poster intends to stick with the one he started with.)
Benedictine 56, Marian 43 Just less than 10 min left 2nd half
Benedictine 74, Marian 56 Final (An IL Eagle scoring run which started just shy of the midway point of the 2nd half was the difference here).
Other NAthCon finals
CUW 64, MSOE 55 (Falcons got to the line more than MSOE)
Concordia-Chicago 73, WLC 72 (Warriors' Day missed a 3 at the buzzer, per CUC box score.)
Kudos to Alverno Coach Duckworth on reaching a milestone:
http://www.northernac.org/releases/2011/2011_01/20110118b.html
My take on the first "Red Rivalry Cup" hoops game between MSOE & Alverno tomorrow:
This one should be interesting--MSOE's Cayo and several 3-point shooters vs. Alverno's McComb, Allen and overall quickness. My question is- with Sorgi having graduated, who now gets the assignment of being the Inferno's designated defensive stopper? :-X :-X :-[ :-[
Halftime score: Benedictine 39, Maranatha 19
(would have posted earlier, but I just had to see the end of "Hang 'Em High")
Other NAthCon updates:
WLC 39, Dominican 36 Half
Marian 33, Concordia-Chicago 27 Half
Lakeland 28, Aurora 18 Half
WLC 57, Dominican 50 10 1/4 min left 2nd half
Marian 44, Concordia-Chicago 38 12 1/4 min left 2nd half
Benedictine up huge on Maranatha (IL Eagles well on their way to a road win)
WLC 87, Dominican 69 Final (Warriors get a big win at home)
WLC: R Johnson 15 pts 11 rebounds
E Laete 32 pts
Warriors shot 58% from the floor and had a 38-23 rebounding edge
per WLC stats.
Dominican: Blom 27 pts.
Marian 72, Concordia-Chicago 58 Final
Cougars had it down to 3 or 4 on a couple of occasions, but Marian came up with a run each time:
Marian: Zutz 27 pts, 13 rebounds (led 3 Saber scorers in double figures)
CUC: Smith 25 and Rickett 15 pts respectively (the latter players' O production seems to have increased some of late)
Lakeland knocked off Aurora 59-47 (Muskies had a 42-35 rebounding edge and committed fewer TO's -per Lakeland stats)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 21, 2011, 08:15:09 AM
My take on the first "Red Rivalry Cup" hoops game between MSOE & Alverno tomorrow:
This one should be interesting--MSOE's Cayo and several 3-point shooters vs. Alverno's McComb, Allen and overall quickness. My question is- with Sorgi having graduated, who now gets the assignment of being the Inferno's designated defensive stopper? :-X :-X :-[ :-[
Turns out the quickness won out --Inferno won 63-57-- the conclusion I get out of Alverno's press release is "Defensive stopper?--Not just one player, we did it by committee for this game" (forcing boatloads of MSOE turnovers) Allen hit a couple of big 3s and some late clutch FT shooting sealed this one.
Lakeland/Alverno up shortly:
Lakeland 12, Alverno 8 Just over 10 1/4 min left 1st half:
Lakeland 27, Alverno 19 Half
Other NAthCon scores:
Dominican 45, MSOE 25 Half (quick look at Raider stats indicates Stars have already drained 10 3s!)
Benedictine 33, Aurora 31 Half
WLC 26, Marian 22 Half
Lakeland 42, Alverno 37 Just over 10 1/2 min left in 2nd half
Finals just starting to trickle in:
WLC 62, Marian 47 (R Johnson had another double-double)
Alverno and Lakeland in a real barnburner now-tied at 53!
Dominican 84, MSOE 53 Final
Aurora 63, Benedictine 58 Final :o :o :o
This just in: Alverno's Shataya McComb did a Terry Licht imitation--burying a 3 at the buzzer to lift the Inferno over Lakeland, 56-53!
Alverno: Kontowski 15 pts, 14 rebounds
Lakeland: Diedrich 18 pts, 10 rebounds off the bench against her old team-mates
Have yet to see a final on Edgewood/Concordia-WI
Was that the head coach that ran across the court to celebrate after that shot?
Not so sure about that
Maranatha/Edgewood up shortly:
(hope to provide updates on Alverno/WLC as well):
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(If there's a NAthCon "buzzer-beater" bug going around, how about in the name of geographical fairness having a Lakeland, Edgewood, CUW or Marian player hit the next one--seeing that it started in IL (ba dumm bumm!)
Edgewood 21, Maranatha 14 Approx 9 1/2 min left in 1st half
Edgewood 34, Maranatha 28 Half
WLC 30, Alverno 13 Half
Edgewood 50, Maranatha 37 Just over 10 min left 2nd half
Final just in: WLC 56, Alverno 35
WLC: E Laete 23 pts 10 rebounds
Alverno shot 27% from the floor for the game-per Warrior stats:
Edgewood 61, Maranatha 47 Final
An 8-0 Eagle scoring run to begin 2nd half gave them a little additional breathing room, and they held on for the win.
CUC's Marche Smith scored 45 today in a non-confernece win over CUW, 79-68 in overtime. I'm guessing it's a NAC record, but the NAC site doesn't list individual game records.
Quote from: Just Bill on January 29, 2011, 02:26:50 PM
CUC's Marche Smith scored 45 today in a non-confernece win over CUW, 79-68 in overtime. I'm guessing it's a NAC record, but the NAC site doesn't list individual game records.
Wow!
A-- She's probably wishing she could do that more often in the NAthCon
B-- If it isn't a record, it's darn close--that even outdoes the 42 she put in against Benedictine (like you first cited) her Sophomore year
Just browsed the NathCon stats pages and it is a new record...
Previous record -
44 Guise, Naomi (Aurora University) vs Greenville College (11/17/06)
44 Moody, Coleen (Marian University) at Mount Mary College (02/12/09)
Moody's output outdid the 42 pt effort Marche Smith put in that same season against Benedictne.
Joining Edgewood/Dominican shortly:
Dominican 19, Edgewood 16 10 1/2 min left 1st half
tracking Alverno/Benedictine's audio feed also
Halftime score Alverno 26, Benedictine 24
Dominican and Edgewood are tied at 34 at the Half
one other score:
Lakeland up 34-20 on MSOE 3 secs left 1st half
Dominican 61, Edgewood 46 10 1/2 min left 2nd half
Final just in: Alverno 57, Benedictine 50
Inferno had a lot of 2nd chance points and more than 50 rebounds for this game-IL Eagles approx 30 rebounds.-Benedictine play by play account.
Dominican up 70-59 on Edgewood with 31 seconds left, 2nd half
Lakeland/MSOE are in OT!
Lakleland 74, MSOE 66 4 secs left in OT (Raiders held to 1 pt for first 4 1/2 min of OT session--MSOE PBP acct)
One other final:
WLC 89, Aurora 63 (Spartan release indicates the teams combined for 28 made 3s --19 by the Warriors, 9 by Aurora)
Correct me if I'm wrong here:
One more WLC win, and a loss by Alverno and/or Lakeland, and the Warriors clinch a NAthCon tournament spot. The Warriors can help themselves big-time with a win tonight. (They own the tie-breaker advantage over Alverno, and have beaten Lakeland and Edgewood once to this point.)
I'd kind of like to see Alverno get in--(McComb's had a knack of hitting impeccably timed 3s in the clutch of late.)
Ditto for CUC and Marche Smith--(Cougars would have to get hot, and it would also depend on how many other players step it up for them from here on out.)
First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
[deleted] - Thought I was on the men's page.
JustBill - that's the men's rankings.
Concordia-WI/Alverno up shortly:
Final just in:
WLC 60, Lakeland 58 (E Laete got a clutch bucket on the Warriors' last possesion to give them all the cushion they needed, per Warrior PBP audio feed)
Alverno 10, CUW 7 10 1/2 min left 1st half
Alverno 16, CUW 15 Half (That is not a misprint, folks)
Both teams are shooting less than 25% from floor so far-per Inferno stats)
Alverno 24, CUW 23 11 1/4 min left 2nd half
CUW 38, Alverno 35 Final
If my figuring is right, WLC clinched a spot in the NAthCon playoffs tonight (having now swept both Alverno and Lakeland)
NAthCon teams still in the thick of the hunt for a conference playoff spot:
North: Edgewood, Marian, Alverno, Lakeland
South: Benedictine, Rockford, CUC, MSOE,
Remaining schedules:
North:
Edgewood: vs. Aurora, @ Marian, vs. Alverno, @ WLC, @ Lakeland
2 wins and 2 losses by Marian/Alverno/Lakeland, and the
WI Eagles are in. Edgewood has already beaten the other 3 squads once
Marian: @ Dominican, vs. Edgewood, vs. Lakeland, @ Alverno
Alverno: @ Rockford, vs. Maranatha, @ Edgewood, vs. Marian
Lakeland: @ Benedictine, @ CUW, vs. Maranatha, @ Marian, vs. EC
Question: How healthy will the Muskies be for today's game? Toward the end of the WLC/Lakeland feed, this poster heard the Warrior announcers indicating that the Muskie squad has been beset with injuries (R Diedrich, for one, had to sit out the Warrior game the other night). Marian appears to have the toughest schedule, (at least on paper).
Alverno has to keep hounding on D, and continue to keep other teams from repeatedly fast-breaking on them--- Alverno's remaining schedule (on paper) doesn't appear to be as tough as Lakeland's--but--
South:
Benedictine: vs. Lakeland, @ CUC, vs. MSOE, @ Rockford, vs. Dominican
Rockford: vs. Alverno, @ Dominican, vs. Benedictine, vs. MSOE
CUC: @ Maranatha, vs. Benedictine, @ MSOE, vs. Aurora
MSOE: @ WLC, vs. Aurora, @ Benedictine, vs. CUC, @ Rockford
MSOE has beaten CUC once, so the re-match may be important if the Cougars are still alive then, in order for them not to lose out on the last South spot on tie-breakers on head-to-head alone. MSOE--keep Cayo out of foul trouble, hope 3-shooters are hitting (how will WLC come out of the gate today, knowing the Warriors have clinched a playoff spot?)--a Raider loss, and they'll be hoping Maranatha gets off the in-conference schneid today.
CUC-- How many players can step up to assist Smith with point production?
If Benedictine's outside shooters go into a prolonged slump, things could get interesting,-- IL Eagles now own the tie-breaker over Rockford, having beaten the Regents earlier. 3 of Rockford's last 4 games are at home (let's see how well the Regents crash the boards today and how well they hold Allen, McComb & Co in check)
Lakeland/Benedictine up shortly:
Benedictine 17, Lakeland 9 Approx. 10 1/2 min left 1st half
Benedictine 32, Lakeland 17 Half
One final already in-per Dominican site:
Dominican 82, Marian 68 (Now the Sabers are hoping for Lakeland and Alverno losses)
One other score:
Edgewood 33, Aurora 29 Half
Benedictine 49, Lakeland 35 Approx 10 1/2 min left 2nd half
Edgewood 57, Aurora 42 Less than 8 1/2 min left 2nd half
Benedictine 76, Lakeland 54 Final
Benedictine 4 players scored in double figures, 48-27 rebounding edge IL Eagle PBP acct)
3 more finals:
Edgewood 74, Aurora 70 (Spartans' late run falls short as WI Eagles hit late FTs to seal another win at home--Edgewood stats)
WLC 77, MSOE 51 (Warriors are now tied with CUW at the top of the North Division)
Rockford 74, Alverno 62 (Rockford outscored the Inferno 44-28 in the 2nd half, had a 46-27 rebounding edge--Regents' M Lawler and Curry both had double-doubles - per Rockford stats)
With these results, Edgwood has more breathing room in the North, last North playoff spot still up for grabs)
CUC's got a golden opportunity to get an upper hand on MSOE later today--developing.
Maranatha 15, CUC 13, 8 1/2 min left 1st half
CUC 29, Maranatha 23 Half
CUC 37, Maranatha 36 10 3/4 min left 2nd half
UPSET ALERT:
Maranatha 52, CUC 49 Final
Cougars had 2 chances to tie it in last 12 1/2 seconds, Leitermann missed a 3 and then with 2 1/2 seconds left, Cruasders knocked the ball away, stole it and dribbled out the clock.
Maranatha may have played the role of spoiler tonight-- just a matter of making the right plays at the right times.
On paper, of the teams still in the hunt for the NAthCon playoffs, Alverno and MSOE appear to be most likely to help themselves tonight. However, Aurora lost by only 2 to the Raiders in their previous meeting, and if the Spartans are hitting their 3s--
Maranatha/Alverno: Inferno can take this one if they slow down DeLozier enough inside --is this a team Alverno can run the break on?? Maybe, Inferno won, 75-68 earlier (higher than their scores of late--)
:-X :-X :-\ :-\
Maranatha/Alverno up shortly:
Alverno 11, Maranatha 9 Approx 12 min left 1st half
Alverno 33, Maranatha 25 Half
Other scores:
Marian 27, Edgewood 25 Half
Benedictine 36, CUC 34 Half
Dominican 28, Rockford 23 Half
MSOE 31, Aurora 29 Half
Alverno 48, Maranatha 29 Approx. 11 1/2 min left 2nd half
Alverno 63, Maranatha 41 Final
Inferno: Allen 18 pts
Other finals:
Benedictine 72, CUC 63 (IL Eagles outshot Cougars 43% to 30% from floor, per CUC stats)
Aurora 61, MSOE 51
Edgewood 64, Marian 53 (WI Eagles had a big rebounding edge and got to the FT line a lot more than Sabers did--Marian stats)
Dominican 60, Rockford 40
With those results, Alverno now has the upper hand for the last playoff spot in the NAthCon North, --the last NAthCon South playoff qualifier will get in with at least 10 in-conference losses--)
NAthCon South standings indicate that Benedictine and Rockford have clinched playoff spots. (Regents get in despite a loss to Dominican=
MSOE and CUC continue to slug it out for the last South spot
2/10/11 Projections:
Alverno/Edgewood: Going with the homestanding Eagles in this one--with their height advantage, if they take care of the ball, they'll be OK.
CUW/WLC: "The" 'fly-on-the-wall' game of the evening: Have to put my heart above my head--Falcons have too many weapons on O.
Dominican/CUC: Dominican-can go to a "Plan B" if they're not hitting 3s, they'll run the break on you. Unless CUC's Smith is allowed to have another huge scoring night, the Stars can take this.
Maranatha/Lakeland: Lakeland at home.
MSOE/Benedictine: IL Eagles have much more depth --should take this-their game is similar to Dominican's.
Marian's turn to have the night off and do scoreboard watching--if these projections all turn out right, the Sabers will be a bit happier.
Alverno/Edgewood just underway:
Alverno 20, Edgewood 13 10 1/2 min left 1st half
Alverno 35, Edgewood 30 Half
Lakeland 35, Marantha 24 Half
WLC 39, CUW 37
Dominican up on CUC 2 min into 2nd half (couldn't get exact score)
Edgewood up 1 on Alverno 9:44 left 2nd half
Alverno 65, Edgewood 55 (WI Eagles didn't take care of the ball well enough this game--Inferno's Allen--28 pts, Alverno hit their late FTs to seal this one ) Edgewood stats)
Other finals:
WLC 70, CUW 69 (per Edgewood announcers)
Benedictine 67, MSOE 59
Lakeland 60, Maranatha 53
Dominican 78, CUC 67
It's come down to this in the North:
Loser of Lakeland/Marian on Saturday is eliminated.
If Inferno wins their next game next week they clinch the last spot in the North.
In the South, MSOE gets CUC at home on Saturday, (oh, to be a fly on the wall in the locker rooms for that one--)
Just Bill (or anyone who knows NAthCon tie-breakers:)
Suppose WLC & CUW finish tied for the top North spot, who would get it? (CUW lost to both Marian and Edgewood, while the Warriors swept both of those squads).
Lakeland 28, Marian 19 Half
Other scores:
CUC 23, MSOE 16 Half
Dominican 38, Aurora 26 Half
WLC 28, Edgewood 20 Half
Marian 38, Lakeland 38 Just over 11 1/2 min left 2nd half
Final just in: MSOE 36, CUC 35
(Both teams shot less than 30% from floor for game-MSOE stats)
Other finals: Marian 57, Lakeland 53
(Marian, down by 9 late, scores the last 13 pts of the game to take it--despite committing 27 turnovers and going 10-26 overall from the FT line, Zutz and Haen hit crucial FTs toward the end to enable Marian to take this one at home. Haen had a big-scoring 2nd half--Marian stats)
Dominican 80, Aurora 57
WLC 62, Edgewood 47 1 sec left 2nd half
(WI Eagle Tobin's double double --13 rebounds, 10 pts, not enough, Warriors got to the line for 24 FTA's compared to Edgewood's 17-WLC stats)
With the results put in my last post --here's the NAthCon playoff situation
Lakeland has been eliminated
An Alverno win over Marian on Wednesday puts the Inferno in.
WLC can take the regular season title in the NAthCon North with a victory at Maranatha on Thursday.
MSOE holds the tie-breaker over CUC, now having beaten the Cougars twice this season.
Week 3 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/16/ncaa-2011-regional-rankings-week-3/
Marian/Alverno on deck (in the NAthCon "winner move on" game)
Alverno 15, Marian 11 10:25 left 1st half
Marian 25, Alverno 24 Half
Score of 1 other game affecting NAthCon playoff seeding :
Benedictine 34, Dominican 31 Half
(Unable to get an update for MSOE/Rockford yet)
Alverno 38, Marian 37 Less than 11 min left 2nd half
Marian and Alverno are going into OT tied at 55!
One final in: Benedictine 77, Dominican 66
Marian/Alverno going to double OT tied at 64!
Marian 72, Alverno 71 Final 2 OTs
Two other NAthCon finals:
Rockford 77, MSOE 61 (Rockford shot 59% from the floor for the game-Regent stats)
CUC 63, Aurora 56 (Marche Smith ends her playing career with a win)
With those results-Marian gets in as #4 in the North (having beaten CUW once)--
In the South Benedictine is #2 seed and Rockford #3
Just an observation on Marche Smith's career- After the Cougars' near miss vs. WLC in the '08 NAthCon Tournament, this poster was thinking that wouldn't be the only year Marche would see the NAthCon playoffs. Marche and M Headen were a great tandem in '08 --how much different could it have been had Headen remained at CUC --(just speculating) That was before Headen transferred to Lake Forest and got hurt after playing only 3 or 4 games there)
Still, the NAthCon will always remember the positive PR Marche gave to the league.
Marche Smith actually has one more game to play - Saturday's NAC Challenge Game when CUC hosts Alverno. Smith now has 1,887 career points and with six more will become the highest scoring player in Concordia basketball history, passing men's career leader Wayne Hesse who played in the 1970s.
I stand corrected. That will be an interesting matchup. Even though both of those teams aren't playoff bound, the Inferno's Allen & McComb generated their share of positive PR material (the latter of the two players will always be remembered for "the first NAthCon WBB Buzzer Beater Seen 'Round the D3 World")
Looks like 3 of the 4 challenge games involving NAC Tournament teams will not matter for seeding. What's the point of the challenge game again? I don't know either.
Quarterfinals
Tuesday, Feb. 22, 7 p.m.
No. 8 Marian/MSOE at No. 1 Wisconsin Lutheran
No. 5 Edgewood at No. 4 Benedictine
No. 6 Rockford at No. 3 Concordia Wisconsin
No. 7 Marian/MSOE at No. 2 Dominican
I also do not like this challenge game. One of the knocks on the NAC is that their strength of schedule is so low that they will only get one team in the NCAAs and then have virtually no chance of advancing. Would it not make more sense to shorten up the conference season by 1-2 games, then try to schedule some teams for the CCIW or WIAC? It would really help SOS. Just a thought.
I mean look at the CCIW. The number four seeded time right now is 15-8. That is a very good winning percentage and then they get their opponents opponents winning percentage.
Not to knock my own squad yet again, but I wonder how high that ranking would be had the Warriors lost to UW-Whitewater earlier this season.
Pat (or anyone else out there):
Just noted a "slippery floor/" issue on the NAthCon men's board:
Suppose this issue comes up again, does the Warrior/Crusader women's game still absolutely have to be played? (not much on the line, not worth getting anyone hurt)
WLC/Maranatha womens' game rescheduled to 7:15 pm tomorrow nite-per MBBC site;
Congratulations to Wisconsin Lutheran's Erika Laete on scoring her 1,000th career point today.
(Special thanks to the Dominican live stats and Wisconsin Lutheran's audio call of the game for the info.)
Update on Sunday, Feb. 20, 2011: Laete became the 13th WLC player to reach the 1,000 pt club on a jumper from the paint with 8:24 left in regulation to give Laete points 34 and 35 of the day. Laete came into the Dominican game needing 35 points to reach 1,000 for her career.
This correction was made after reading the play by play sheet:
Play by play of the WLC at Dominican game from Feb. 19, 2011 (http://www.wlcsports.com/stats/wbb10-11/0219duwl.htm#GAME.PLY)
When listening to the game, I was led to believe by the internet PBP guy from WLC that Laete needed 39 points for the milestone-- she only needed 35 pts.
The second made free throw by Laete with 4:58 left in regulation gave Laete her 39th point of the day.
Game update in the #1 seed vs #2 seed NathCon Challenge:
End of regulation
Wisconsin Lutheran 80, Dominican 80
Game update: Wisconsin Lutheran 91, Dominican 91 1:47 left to play in OT.
Final: Wisconsin Lutheran 96, Dominican 91 (OT).
Wisconsin Lutheran was trailing by as much as 15 in the second half (that occurring with 11:53 left in regulation) and trailed most of the game before rallying to tie the game at the end of regulation.
WLC's Erika Laete had a career high 50 pt, 15 rebound effort to lead the Warriors.
Laete shot 22 of 34 from the field, 0-0 from 3 pt land, and 6 of 9 from the charity stripe for her 50 pts. In the process, she scored her 1,000th point with 4:58 to go in regulation on a made free throw.
WLC's Rachel Johnson had 20 pts on 9 of 13 from the field, 0-0 from 3 pt land, and 2-3 from the charity stripe.
WLC's Shavon Dillon had 11 pts for the day of 5-12 from the field shooting, 0-0 from 3 pt land, and 2-3 from the FT line.
For Dominican--
Katie Budz scored a team high 30 points on 9-15 from the field, 4-5 from 3 pt land, and 8-8 from the line to lead the Stars.
WLC shot 42 of 77 for the game (54.5% FG), 0 of 4 from 3 pt land, and 12 of 23 from the charity stripe. (52.2% FT-- it seems amazing to me that WLC rallied for the victory with that FT percentage....)
Dominican shot 30 of 72 for the game (41.7%), 9 of 24 from 3 pt land, and 22 of 33 from the charity stripe.
WLC outrebounded Dominican, 45-40 for the game.
WLC had 19 assists and 14 turnovers, while Dominican had 17 assists and 13 turnovers.
This was my first time watching a NathCon game on line, and I second the nomination by the NathCon SIDs of Erika Laete to the D3Hoops.com Team of the Week based on her performance today.
WLC proved their character today after a very sluggish first half to rally to win.....
WLC picked up their 22nd win of the season-- a new program record, and extends their program record winning streak to 11 games.
That 50 pt output - a new NAthCon record for most points scored in a single game-exceeds a 45 point output Concordia-Chicago's Marche Smith had earlier this season.
Quote from: Just Bill on February 17, 2011, 09:32:05 AM
Looks like 3 of the 4 challenge games involving NAC Tournament teams will not matter for seeding. What's the point of the challenge game again? I don't know either.
Quarterfinals
Tuesday, Feb. 22, 7 p.m.
No. 8 Marian/MSOE at No. 1 Wisconsin Lutheran
No. 5 Edgewood at No. 4 Benedictine
No. 6 Rockford at No. 3 Concordia Wisconsin
No. 7 Marian/MSOE at No. 2 Dominican
Marian beat MSOE today, so the 8/1 and 7/2 pairings are as follows:
#8 MSOE at #1 Wisconsin Lutheran
#7 Marian at #2 Dominican
Box score of game between WLC and Dominican played today, Feb. 19, 2011 from River Forest, IL
http://www.dustars.com/custompages/WBasketball/2011/wbduwlc2.htm (http://www.dustars.com/custompages/WBasketball/2011/wbduwlc2.htm)
Dominican's recap of the game:
http://www.dustars.com/news/2011/2/19/WBB_0219111341.aspx?path=wbball (http://www.dustars.com/news/2011/2/19/WBB_0219111341.aspx?path=wbball)
Wisconsin Lutheran's recap of the game:
http://www.wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=1919 (http://www.wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=1919)
Play by play sheet of the game at Dominican from Feb. 19, 2011 (http://www.wlcsports.com/stats/wbb10-11/0219duwl.htm#GAME.PLY)
WLC's Erika Laete's 50 point performance is the highest single game point performance in NCAA DIII Women's hoop this season.
+K to WLCALUM83 in honor of WLC's come from behind effort at Dominican-- not only rallying back from a 15 point deficit in regulation, but also rallying back after trailing most of the overtime as well.
I updated my post entitled Reply #1003 in the NathCon forum earlier today, Sunday, Feb. 20, to note the exact moment that Erika Laete accomplished the milestone to join the WLC 1,000 Point club.
NathCon Quarterfinal results from Tuesday, Feb. 22, 2011
#1 Wisconsin Lutheran 76, #8 MSOE 55
#2 Dominican 94, #7 Marian 54
#3 Concordia-Wis. 62, #6 Rockford 60
#4 Benedictine 62, #5 Edgewood 58
NathCon Semifinals-- Thursday, Feb. 24, 2011-- All tips are at 7 PM Central
#4 Benedictine @ #1 Wisconsin Lutheran
Audio (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wlcsports) Live stats (http://www.wlcsports.athleticsite.net/livestats/wb/xlive.htm)
#3 Concordia Wisconsin @ #2 Dominican
Video is at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Dominican-University-Athletics (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Dominican-University-Athletics)
Live stats (http://www.sidearmstats.com/dom/wbball/index.htm)
NathCon Championship-- Saturday, Feb. 26, 2011
Final Regional Rankings before Selection Sunday: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
2/24 NAthCon Tournament Finals:
WLC 78, Benedictine 70
Concordia-WI 81, Dominican 64
Final: Concordia-WI vs. WLC 2/26
Halftime score: Concordia-WI 29, WLC 27
WLC 53, Concordia-WI 45 10 min left 2nd half
NAthCon Tournament Final Score:
Wisconsin Lutheran 76, Concordia-WI 67 Final
The Warriors are dancing!
The Warriors are dancing!
Wisconsin Lutheran's 1st round opponent: UW-LaCrosse
Any thoughts on whether WLC can compete with LaCrosse?
Warriors knocked off Whitewater early, swept Edgewood during our in-conference season- (granted that was much later than LaCrosse played Edgewood)
It'll depend on how well you take care of the ball on offense-generally speaking. Against Concordia-WI in the NAthCon final, the Warriors were able to grab a lead and hold on to it by forcing several turnovers and getting points off them--
Belated kudos to Dominican hoops Coach Lane for getting the NAthCon COY Award--his squad improved by leaps and bounds this season--
Wisconsin Lutheran 73, UW-LaCrosse 59 Final
(Whew!) warriors won the rebounding battle 39-34, clutch late FT shooting toward the end was the difference.
New coach at Lakeland:
http://www.northernac.org/releases/2011/2011_04/20110420a.html
Quote from: Just Bill on April 24, 2011, 09:01:50 AM
New coach at Lakeland:
http://www.northernac.org/releases/2011/2011_04/20110420a.html
Sounds like a good one--
Here's a hoops-related coaching update on Alverno:
http://northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2011-12/releases/20110823wzmp90
2011-12 Northern Athletics Conference Preseason Coaches' Poll
NORTH DIVISION
1. Wisconsin Lutheran (12), 90
2. Concordia Wisconsin (1), 77
3. Edgewood, 64
4. Marian 45
5. Alverno, 40
6. Lakeland, 35
7. Maranatha, 13
SOUTH DIVISION
1. Dominican (12), 76
2. Benedictine (1), 62
3. MSOE, 45
4. Rockford, 43
5. Concordia Chicago, 24
6. Aurora, 23
first-place votes in parentheses
voted by the conference's 13 head coaches
7-6-5-4-3-2-1 point scale used for North, 6-5-4-3-2-1 used for South
http://www.northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2011-12/releases/20111027d7vikc
It'll be interesting to see who steps up for Alverno (McComb and Allen gradualted), and CUC (ditto for Marche Smith).
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on August 24, 2011, 10:02:52 AM
Here's a hoops-related coaching update on Alverno:
http://northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2011-12/releases/20110823wzmp90
The Alverno staff also features former Badger Men's player Latrell Fleming.
Quote from: thrunt01 on November 28, 2011, 01:05:28 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on August 24, 2011, 10:02:52 AM
Here's a hoops-related coaching update on Alverno:
http://northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2011-12/releases/20110823wzmp90
The Alverno staff also features former Badger Men's player Latrell Fleming.
And... your point? In my opinion, the staff features far more knowledgable coaches than Fleming, who only played a year or two at Wisc on the mens side. What about the ex womens college players on staff? Or Kluth? All great additions to the program. Fleming does lots of AAU, but that's a whole different animal compared the tasks of a college basketball coach. Grades, recruiting, scouting, etc.
Quote from: quail1231 on November 29, 2011, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on November 28, 2011, 01:05:28 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on August 24, 2011, 10:02:52 AM
Here's a hoops-related coaching update on Alverno:
http://northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2011-12/releases/20110823wzmp90
The Alverno staff also features former Badger Men's player Latrell Fleming.
And... your point? In my opinion, the staff features far more knowledgable coaches than Fleming, who only played a year or two at Wisc on the mens side. What about the ex womens college players on staff? Or Kluth? All great additions to the program. Fleming does lots of AAU, but that's a whole different animal compared the tasks of a college basketball coach. Grades, recruiting, scouting, etc.
Yikes. What a ridiculous over-reaction to a very innocent comment. In the 11 words that person typed, I don't see any opinion, inference or judgment of anything. Perhaps they just thought it was an interesting fact that people might like to know.
There's not a lot of action on this board. Let's try to avoid jumping down people's throats for sharing information.
Dominican and CUC are going into OT tied at 61!
Dominican 84, CUC 79 Final 2 OT
Quote from: Just Bill on November 29, 2011, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: quail1231 on November 29, 2011, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on November 28, 2011, 01:05:28 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on August 24, 2011, 10:02:52 AM
Here's a hoops-related coaching update on Alverno:
http://northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2011-12/releases/20110823wzmp90
The Alverno staff also features former Badger Men's player Latrell Fleming.
And... your point? In my opinion, the staff features far more knowledgable coaches than Fleming, who only played a year or two at Wisc on the mens side. What about the ex womens college players on staff? Or Kluth? All great additions to the program. Fleming does lots of AAU, but that's a whole different animal compared the tasks of a college basketball coach. Grades, recruiting, scouting, etc.
Yikes. What a ridiculous over-reaction to a very innocent comment. In the 11 words that person typed, I don't see any opinion, inference or judgment of anything. Perhaps they just thought it was an interesting fact that people might like to know.
There's not a lot of action on this board. Let's try to avoid jumping down people's throats for sharing information.
Um yeah I was just trying to share some info I found interesting, if you don't see that way that's fine but I meant no disrespect to any of the other assistant coaches, I'm sure they all work very hard. Again I just found it interesting and tried to have an at least semi informative post on here so I could just check on the "Show new replies to your posts" for updates on the conference.
Sorry for trying to start a discussion. Didn't realize this board was so sensitive.
Quote from: quail1231 on December 06, 2011, 08:33:31 AM
Sorry for trying to start a discussion. Didn't realize this board was so sensitive.
HAHA ... Trying to start a discussion
WLCALUM83's take on Women's 12/6 results:
Dominican over Rockford: Stars pile up the points (thought that would be happening a bit sooner)
CUC over Benedictine: IL Eagles lost several starters from last season-Cougars' May increasing her scoring output, Ricketts picking up where she left off
WLC over Lakeland; Clutch FT shooting late seals this one on the road (methinks the Muskies will do better this year than last)
MSOE over Aurora: Raiders now 4-0 in conference, (between Cayo on the inside and their 3-pt shooters they'll make their fair share of noise)
Maranatha over Marian: Crusaders already have an in-NAthCon win (last year that didn't happen until late February, when they upset CUC at home-this poster thinks Maranatha could get a couple more in-conference wins-with DeLozier and Peotter providing leadership.
CUW over Alverno: Falcons are on a drive to get back to the top of their division.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 06, 2011, 10:45:39 PM
WLCALUM83's take on Women's 12/6 results:
Dominican over Rockford: Stars pile up the points (thought that would be happening a bit sooner)
CUC over Benedictine: IL Eagles lost several starters from last season-Cougars' May increasing her scoring output, Ricketts picking up where she left off
WLC over Lakeland; Clutch FT shooting late seals this one on the road (methinks the Muskies will do better this year than last)
MSOE over Aurora: Raiders now 4-0 in conference, (between Cayo on the inside and their 3-pt shooters they'll make their fair share of noise)
Maranatha over Marian: Crusaders already have an in-NAthCon win (last year that didn't happen until late February, when they upset CUC at home-this poster thinks Maranatha could get a couple more in-conference wins-with DeLozier and Peotter providing leadership.
CUW over Alverno: Falcons are on a drive to get back to the top of their division.
I think the game Thursday between CUW and Lakeland will tell us a lot about both teams.
My take on a couple of the 12/10/11 results:
Marian over MSOE: Raiders' outside shots weren't dropping much, (Cayo still managed a double-double)
Edgewood over Benedictine: WI Eagles had a 52-30 rebounding advantage on the boards
CUC over Lakeland: 4 of the 5 Cougar starters scored in double figures-per box score Ricketts got several big hoops late.
My 1/7/12 guesses:
CUW/Dominican: CUW (will be looking to make a statement after 0-fer in D3 hoops Classic)
Lakeland/Rockford: Going with the Regents in a tight one at home
Marian/Aurora: Marian
Alverno/CUC: CUC at home
Edgewood/MSOE: Edgewood in another tight one
WLC/Beneictine: WLC
Was off on 3 games, as it turns out:
Alverno ended the first half going on a 17-0 scoring run (didn't think Inferno's Kontowski would have as good a game as she did)
MSOE beat Edgewood (first time in quite a while, per Raider announcer) --WI Eagles had an off day shooting from the floor
Lakeland's balance overall was the difference in their win.
Marian's Albert hit 10 threes in the Sabres' win today.
My 1/12/12 guesses:
WLC over Maranatha:
Edgewood over Lakeland:
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 12, 2012, 07:29:29 PM
My 1/12/12 guesses:
WLC over Maranatha:
Edgewood over Lakeland:
Gonna start believing in Lakeland after they nearly put up 90 against Edgewood?
Quote from: thrunt01 on January 12, 2012, 09:50:07 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 12, 2012, 07:29:29 PM
My 1/12/12 guesses:
WLC over Maranatha:
Edgewood over Lakeland:
Gonna start believing in Lakeland after they nearly put up 90 against Edgewood?
I'll tell you this-- it wouldn't surprise me if the Muskies began moving further up in the standings -- they get Maranatha at home, Marian on the road, and Aurora and Alverno after that, while WLC gets CUC, Edgewood and Dominican. I'm not expecting the Warriors to run the table in-conference.
My 1/14/12 guesses:
Benedictine/Marian: Going with Marian at home (Albert's been hot from beyond the arc of late)
WLC/CUC: WLC
MSOE/CUW: CUW (if Cayo stays out of foul trouble and CUW has a flat game it could be interesting--I wasn't expecting the Raiders to beat Edgewood)
Aurora/MBBC: Aurora
Rockford/Edgewood: Edgewood (WI Eagles have deeper bench)
Well I guess my comment about having confidence in Lakeland is null and void after they choke away a 7 point lead in the final four minutes to lose to MBBC 56-53. The Muskies have 9 good players but no outstanding players so it makes it tough in a tight ball game when you don't have a player you can turn to that can get you a tough basket when you need it. Maybe they'll turn it around Wednesday at Marian but this is a tough one to take.
Quote from: thrunt01 on January 16, 2012, 09:39:02 PM
Well I guess my comment about having confidence in Lakeland is null and void after they choke away a 7 point lead in the final four minutes to lose to MBBC 56-53. The Muskies have 9 good players but no outstanding players so it makes it tough in a tight ball game when you don't have a player you can turn to that can get you a tough basket when you need it. Maybe they'll turn it around Wednesday at Marian but this is a tough one to take.
Maranatha's trio of better than average starters (Morisson, DeLozier & Peotter) are in their 3rd year as a unit. The Crusaders already have 3 times the number of in-conference wins they had last season.
1/21/12 guesses:
CUW/Rockford: CUW
MBBC/Benedictine: Benedictine in a tight one (if the IL Eagles have an off day shooting). How well can the Crusaders take care of the ball?
Lakeland/Aurora: Lakeland
WLC/Dominican: Dominican (Stars can pile up the points from time to time)
Marian/CUC: Marian (more consistent of late)
Alverno/MSOE: MSOE in a tight one (Kontowski vs. Cayo should be interesting if they're matched up against each other).
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 21, 2012, 07:51:02 AM
1/21/12 guesses:
CUW/Rockford: CUW
MBBC/Benedictine: Benedictine in a tight one (if the IL Eagles have an off day shooting). How well can the Crusaders take care of the ball?
Lakeland/Aurora: Lakeland
WLC/Dominican: Dominican (Stars can pile up the points from time to time)
Marian/CUC: Marian (more consistent of late)
Alverno/MSOE: MSOE in a tight one (Kontowski vs. Cayo should be interesting if they're matched up against each other).
I'll take CUW, MBBC, LC, WLC, Marian and MSOE in wins this weekend. I'm not sure if that Alverno/MSOE game will really be all that close.
1/24/12 guesses:
WLC over Marian in a tight one (a Saber win wouldn't be a total shock--if Albert has a hot night shooting--Marian darn near beat the Warriors earlier this season)
CUW over Edgewood
Lakeland over Alverno
Dominican over MSOE
Benedictine over Aurora
CUC over Rockford (Regents can take this if Curry has a monster scoring game and Ricketts gets in big foul trouble)
My take on 1/24 results:
Another clutch shot for CUW's Hendrickson in regulation to send that one to OT (she hit a buzzer-beater vs. Rockford in the playoffs last year) - and the Falcons prevail on the road.
Per Dominican stats. MSOE had a big rebounding edge on the Stars-- second straight home loss after leading at half-time for them--
CUC got power from a (somewhat) unexpected source off the bench, (their top scorer on the night got all her points on 4 threes)- balanced scoring elsewhere
(that smile you're seeing is from thrunt01 after the Muskie win--)
1/28/12 guesses:
CUW over CUC
MSOE over Lakeland (Muskies can take this if Cayo gets in foul trouble and the Raider shooters aren't hitting)
Dominican over Edgewood (somethin's gotta give; both squads have struggled offensively of late-teams have come back late on the Stars their last couple of games)
WLC over Aurora (its' the Warrior Winterfest and maybe #21 will reach the 1,000 pt mark :-X :-\)
Rockford over Maranatha in a tight one (when the Crusaders cooled off from outside against Edgewood, it cost them)
Benedictine over Alverno (if Walsh & Co bring the shooting eye, they can take this in a tight one)
Is CUW v CUC a big rivalry in this conference? Also, some bottom of the conference teams going at it today, possible preview of some NAC challenge games.
I'd say CUW/CUC is a big rivalry-- those squads go at it along with 2 other "Concordia's" in a "Concordia Invitational Tournament every year--
In the North, it could be a real dogfight (4 teams in contention for 2 spots). Caught part of Rockford/MBBC last night and found out the Regents had only 6 players available for that game. If the Crusaders do not get in, methinks the toughest loss (to this point) would have to be earlier this week against Edgewood at home. They get Marian on the road next (and the Sabers will be out to avenge an earlier loss).
In the South, CUC and Benedictine appear to be in good shape at the moment for the last 2 spots. (IL Eagles: If Goede and Walsh both score big the better their chances-) CUC's offense -- how many players step it up (they've won a couple even when Ricketts has been slowed down a bit).
2/1/12 guesses:
Dominican over CUC
CUW over Alverno
MSOE over Benedictine
Aurora over Rockford (Regents' bench more depleted than usual of late)
Game of the day: Lakeland over WLC (I still remember the 4-OT game at the REX in '08) --Muskies have been piling up the points of late.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 01, 2012, 09:18:09 AM
2/1/12 guesses:
Dominican over CUC
CUW over Alverno
MSOE over Benedictine
Aurora over Rockford (Regents' bench more depleted than usual of late)
Game of the day: Lakeland over WLC (I still remember the 4-OT game at the REX in '08) --Muskies have been piling up the points of late.
What is it in the water in the Southern part of the state? Despite their domination in Football and basketball UWW fans are always nervous about their team losing and it appears to be the same here, I think you've picked against WLC when they play anyone who is half way decent. I'm not saying LC can't do it or being critical just making an observation :). I just know that if any of my teams ever had the record or reputation of UWW or this WLC team I'd be much more brash and confident 8-), but that's just me and probably because my teams (at least at the D3 level) haven't been good of late. LC v WLC aside I agree w/ the rest of your picks by the way.
2/4/12 guesses:
WLC over MSOE: (if the Warriors get the fast break going repeatedly--)
Lakeland over Benedictine: (Muskie momentum continues)
Dominican over Marian
Edgewood over Aurora
Maranatha over CUC (toughest call of the day-this could go either way with both squads still in playoff hunt)
Rockford over Alverno
2/7/12 guesses:
Dominican over Rockford (how much do the Regents have left in the tank?)
Edgewood over Marian (WI Eagles need a win--big time)
Benedictine over CUC (barring a hot Rockford run, the 2 most likely South Division playoff teams meet here)
MSOE over Aurora
Game of the day: CUW keeps the pressure on WLC by beating Lakeland on the road.
Remaining schedules for NAthCon North teams in contention:
Lakeland: CUW, @ Maranatha, Marian, @ Edgewood
Marian: @ Edgewood, @ Lakeland, Alverno
Edgewood: Marian, @ Alverno, WLC, Lakeland
Maranatha: Lakeland, CUW, Alverno, @ WLC
(Crusaders' best shot is to finish tied with either Marian or Lakeland, -- they would lose out on a tie-breaker with Edgewood, since the WI Eagle squad won both meetings). They need for Marian to lose at least one more game and Edgewood to lose at least 2;)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 07, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
2/7/12 guesses:
Dominican over Rockford (how much do the Regents have left in the tank?)
Edgewood over Marian (WI Eagles need a win--big time)
Benedictine over CUC (barring a hot Rockford run, the 2 most likely South Division playoff teams meet here)
MSOE over Aurora
Game of the day: CUW keeps the pressure on WLC by beating Lakeland on the road.
Good slate of games tonight for sure. Both the LC v CUW and EC v Marian games have big implications.
With tonight's results:
NAthCon South: One more Rockford loss eliminates the Regents
NAthCon North: Two wins by Lakeland or 2 Edgewood losses and the Muskies are in.
Maranatha needs to win out and have Edgewood lose out
Marian also needs some help to get in.
2/9/12 guesses:
Lakeland over Maranatha (Muskies avenge an earlier loss)
Edgewood over Alverno (if Henderson's matched up on Kontowski, that will be interesting, the former gave Marian fits defensively the other night).
WLC @ CUW: Somethin's gotta give here--big time, (CUW's going to want to come out firing at home after the near miss at Lakeland the other night. WLC, however, can clinch the top spot outright with a win tonight--having beaten the Falcons in an earlier game.) Going with CUW, (Falcons need it more, and I've got a feeling it'll show in their play.)
Wow! Another crazy night in the NAthCon!
WLC scored the last 13 points of the game to shock CUW, 64-58. If calculations are correct, the Warriors have clinched the NAthCon North Championship. Lakeland also clinched a spot. (I'm eating crow--lots of crow--with a smile!)
Alverno pulls off a mild upset of Edgewood at home on Senior Night.
Scenarios:
Maranatha: One more loss and the Crusaders are out.
Marian: @ Lakeland, vs. Alverno
Edgewood: vs. WLC, vs. Lakeland
(between the Sabers and the WI Eagles, seeing as the Muskies factor into the jockeying, I wonder which one of those squads thrunt01 would prefer to make the playoffs-- should Marian and Edgewood finish with equal records it would come down to tie-breakers since those squads split in their 2 meetings).
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 09, 2012, 10:10:59 PM
Wow! Another crazy night in the NAthCon!
WLC scored the last 13 points of the game to shock CUW, 64-58. If calculations are correct, the Warriors have clinched the NAthCon North Championship. Lakeland also clinched a spot. (I'm eating crow--lots of crow--with a smile!)
Alverno pulls off a mild upset of Edgewood at home on Senior Night.
Scenarios:
Maranatha: One more loss and the Crusaders are out.
Marian: @ Lakeland, vs. Alverno
Edgewood: vs. WLC, vs. Lakeland
(between the Sabers and the WI Eagles, seeing as the Muskies factor into the jockeying, I wonder which one of those squads thrunt01 would prefer to make the playoffs-- should Marian and Edgewood finish with equal records it would come down to tie-breakers since those squads split in their 2 meetings).
Good question but honestly who gets in between EC or Marian doesn't matter to me, LC has locked up at least 3rd place in the North. My focus now is on hoping CUW drops their game @ MBBC and that LC takes care of business against those same Sabers and Eagles and possibly move into 2nd place in the north which would earn them a home game in the tournament, which is possible but not entirely probable. What is a bummer is the fact that LC could finish with a better record than Dominian or MSOE and still have to go on the road for their first game of the tournament. I continue to see more and more of these types of issues crop up as I follow this conference closer. The first thing is why has the south hosted the NAC challenge for 3 straight years? I get that it might happen back to back years when they shuffle the divisions but 3 straight years seems ridiculous. Also these schools all play each other I see no reason why a team who places higher in their division rankings but finishes with a worse record than a team in another division should get the higher seed in the tournament. Or why it needs to be the top 4 teams in each division that make the tournament in the first place. Play out the divisions but the 8 teams with the best conference records should make the tournament regardless of division. Let's take this year as an example, CUC AND Benedictine will make it over either Marian or Edgewood AND MBBC. In my opinion all three of those teams are better and thus more deserving of a tournament birth than either CUC or Benedictine but two of them will be left out. Not only that but they all have better records despite the fact that CUC and Benny got to play the two worst teams in the NAC, Rockford and Aurora, TWICE. I just don't see how the powers at be can think this is a fair and equitable way to determine a conference champion.
Enough ranting and raving from me because at the end of the day the teams have a chance to prove who is the best out on the court. March Madness, or late February madness in this case, is just around the corner and I am getting fired up just thinking about it.
thrunt, I don't think you understand how the Challenge game sites are determined. The team that hosts the NAC Challenge is pure chance. Once the matchups are set it depends on which of the two teams hosted the regular season meeting. The other one then gets to host the Challenge game. It's not a alternating division thing as you seem to be saying.
Lakeland will be away (assuming they finish 3rd), because they already played both of their two possible opponents, CUC and Benedictine, at home this year. WLC will be at home for the same reason. They have already played both Dominican and MSOE on the road this year.
So it has nothing to do with previous seasons or whose turn it is. It's just luck of the schedule and the matchup. Fortunately, the NAC is getting rid of the Challenge game after this season. Dumb idea from the start.
I do agree with you on Tournament teams and seeding. The discrepencies are even worse on the men's side this year where clearly the best 3 teams are all in the North. My vote would be to guarantee spots to the top 2 in each division and then take 4 wild cards. Then seed all by conference record regardless of division.
2/11/12 guesses:
WLC over Edgewood: (Eagles can take this if the Warriors aren't allowed to run the break on them, and WLC's not hitting 3s--) Methinks the Milwaukee squad would like to keep its' momentum going.
Dominican over Aurora: Stars keep pressure on MSOE.
Lakeland over Marian: (loss of Zutz hurts the Sabers' inside game; Muskies have better balance.)
CUW over Maranatha: (Crusaders need to hit on all cylinders. If Peotter and Co get a boatload of turnovers and points off them, MBBC takes good care of the ball, CUW has an off day shooting and MBBC's DeLozier and her fellow talls have the best rebounding day of their careers in the same game, they could pull off an upset. I doubt that will happen, however.)
MSOE over CUC:
Benedictine over Rockford: (Banged up Regents squad doesn't have much depth.)
More unexpected happenings:
In CUC's upset of MSOE, CUC got a lot of offensive rebounds and was able to get to the line and hit a lot of free throws late in the 2nd half.
Benedictine also won, so the 4 South playoff teams are set.
Maranatha pulled off the other upset, on a DeLozier basket with 10 seconds left. (thrunt01's squad got the help it wanted today.)
North scenarios:
A Lakeland win over Edgewood puts the Muskies in 2nd in the North (they swept CUW)
Maranatha can keep things interesting by beating Alverno on Monday night. A Crusader win there and 3 teams would be tied for the last playoff spot in the North. (I wonder who'd get in if those three were still tied after the regular season ends.)
Marian gets Alverno at home, and Maranatha gets WLC on the road to finish up.
(We'll find out how motivated Alverno is to play spoiler.)
Quote from: Just Bill on February 10, 2012, 12:45:47 PM
thrunt, I don't think you understand how the Challenge game sites are determined. The team that hosts the NAC Challenge is pure chance. Once the matchups are set it depends on which of the two teams hosted the regular season meeting. The other one then gets to host the Challenge game. It's not a alternating division thing as you seem to be saying.
Lakeland will be away (assuming they finish 3rd), because they already played both of their two possible opponents, CUC and Benedictine, at home this year. WLC will be at home for the same reason. They have already played both Dominican and MSOE on the road this year.
So it has nothing to do with previous seasons or whose turn it is. It's just luck of the schedule and the matchup. Fortunately, the NAC is getting rid of the Challenge game after this season. Dumb idea from the start.
I do agree with you on Tournament teams and seeding. The discrepencies are even worse on the men's side this year where clearly the best 3 teams are all in the North. My vote would be to guarantee spots to the top 2 in each division and then take 4 wild cards. Then seed all by conference record regardless of division.
You would be correct, I guess I just assumed stuff like that would be predetermined but I was wrong. So teams get an extra home or road game pretty arbitrarily? That just seems like you said, dumb. Particularly this year when the drop off from #2 to #3 is so significant, it might actually be better for a team like CUW to place 3rd, play CUC or Benny and have LC have to play AT MSOE (unless I am again mistaken and challenge games don't count for conference record and tournament seeding). Given this information I'm glad they're going away from it. Maybe they could have a NAC challenge just for the teams that don't make the post season, so at least half of those teams can end their season on a high note. It would kind of be like a bowl game in football. It would give more teams a taste of a "postseason" without really impacting much else. On the other hand those teams might just want the season to be over. Thanks for the information on the challenge.
2/13 guess:
Alverno at Maranatha: Tough call here, both teams have momentum going in, coming off upset wins. If Alverno plays like it did in its' last game, the Crusaders will be in trouble. Maranatha's at home, they need to cut down on turnovers and at least stay even in terms of rebounding.
(WLCALUM83 doing a slow count to 30 while thinking further. . . )
Have to go with my head over my heart on this one--figuring Alverno will try to deny Crusader talls the ball down low quite a bit.
Pick: Inferno plays spoiler on the road in a tight one.
Halftime: Maranatha is up by 4 on Alverno.
Alverno/Maranatha going to overtime:
Final: Alverno 71, Maranatha 68 (Inferno's Galstad hit a go-ahead bucket and Speerscheider 2 ensuing FT's, then a potential game-tying 3-pointer by Peotter bounced off the rim.)
Marian and Edgewood are still alive for the last playoff spot in the NAthCon North.
2/15-16/12 guesses:
2/15: Dominican over Benedictine (can't see Stars missing out on opportunity to take South title outright)
MSOE over Rockford
CUC over Aurora
Alverno over Marian: (Inferno plays double-spoiler on the week. Marian can still take this if they're hitting on their 3's and Kontowski gets in early foul trouble--however, the Sabers have been outrebounded in most of their games of late.)
Lakeland over Edgewood: (Muskies claim 2nd place in the North with a win. If they can run on the WI Eagles and slow down Tobin enough down low --the better their chances.)
2-16: WLC over Maranatha: Warriors will get a win on Senior Night (surely they've been reminded of how in the previous match-up the Crusaders came out of the gate hitting on all cylinders and WLC was down by 12 before they could blink,)-- they came back for the win that time. (I wonder who'll get more steals-- Dillon or Peotter?)
(The one NAthCon in-conference loss that will probably sting the most for the Crusaders IMHO is the one they took at home against Edgewood. If they hadn't gone cold on offense toward the end of that game--still, I wasn't expecting them to beat Lakeland and CUW.)
Welcome to the NAthCon playoffs, Marian!
(Hitting on 12 3s sure was a shot in the arm for the Sabers tonight).
(Pardon the pun.)
NAthCon Challenge guesses:
WLC over Dominican (Stars can take this if they're hitting their 3s early)
Lakeland over MSOE (Raiders are in a bit of a slump) (Muskies are the hottest team in the conference right now.)
CUW over CUC in a tight one (If CUC shows the same intensity on D that it did in the 2nd half against MSOE, this could get interesting)
Benedictine over Marian (figuring the IL Eagles will try a big-time denial of 3s after how Marian shot the lights out from beyond the arc last night)
Edgewood over Rockford
Maranatha over Aurora
Alverno over Mt. Mary
MSOE knocked off Lakeland, (I've got a feeling that cooling is only going to be temporary, however)
That was the only guess I missed on the NAthCon Challenge.
2012 Northern Athletics Conference Women's Basketball Tournament
http://www.northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2011-12/tournament
Quarterfinals - Wednesday, Feb. 22, 7 p.m.
#8 Benedictine (10-15, 6-11) at #1 Wisconsin Lutheran (21-4, 17-1)
#5 Concordia Wisconsin (15-10, 13-5) at #4 Lakeland (18-7, 13-5)
#7 Marian (13-12, 9-9) at #2 Dominican (17-8, 13-4)
#6 Concordia Chicago (9-16, 7-10) at #3 MSOE (16-9, 11-6)
Semifinals - Friday, Feb. 24, 7 p.m.
#1/8 vs. #4/5
#2/7 vs. #3/6
Final - Saturday, Feb. 25, 7 p.m.
Quote from: Just Bill on February 18, 2012, 10:04:16 PM
2012 Northern Athletics Conference Women's Basketball Tournament
http://www.northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2011-12/tournament
Quarterfinals - Wednesday, Feb. 22, 7 p.m.
#8 Benedictine (10-15, 6-11) at #1 Wisconsin Lutheran (21-4, 17-1)
#5 Concordia Wisconsin (15-10, 13-5) at #4 Lakeland (18-7, 13-5)
#7 Marian (13-12, 9-9) at #2 Dominican (17-8, 13-4)
#6 Concordia Chicago (9-16, 7-10) at #3 MSOE (16-9, 11-6)
Semifinals - Friday, Feb. 24, 7 p.m.
#1/8 vs. #4/5
#2/7 vs. #3/6
Final - Saturday, Feb. 25, 7 p.m.
#4 vs. #5: It'll be interesting to see if Lakeland can beat CUW for the third time this season. Winner here will give Benedictine/WLC winner all they can handle.
#2 vs. #7: If Dominican is allowed to run the break a lot, it could be a long night for Marian. It may come down to that if both squads are hitting 3s. Stars also had the rebounding edge in the earlier match-up.
#3 vs. #6: CUC's May has scored more than her average in both of the previous match-ups. Methinks CUC will try to run on the Raiders, (Cougars were able to disrupt MSOE's slower offensive flow a lot in the 2nd half of the last match-up.)
#8 vs. #1: If WLC ratches up the defense and rebounding intensity like it did yesterday against Dominican, and is able to get a lot of points off turnovers, the Warriors will be OK. Benedictine, however, is showing of late that Goede and Walsh are not the only people on that squad who can pile up the points.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 18, 2012, 06:51:49 PM
MSOE knocked off Lakeland, (I've got a feeling that cooling is only going to be temporary, however)
That was the only guess I missed on the NAthCon Challenge.
The difference between the games these teams played was officiating, not good or bad just style and what they allow. MSOE loves to get right in the face of and put heavy ball pressure the rebounder, the refs called things tighter at LC and let more things go in MSOE which made all the difference. When MSOE can put that pressure on, it slows down the muskies fast break and allows MSOE to use their size to their advantage. If the refs don't allow MSOE to get as much pressure that allows LC to get out and run and use their speed and shooting ability. To be clear I'm not complaining just stating an observation, it's just one of those things, variables if you will, that makes each game unique and exciting. This ought to be an exciting tournament.
2/22/12 guesses:
CUC over MSOE in a mild upset
Dominican over Marian: Sabers can take this if they're hitting their 3's and crashing the boards big time and the Stars are cold on 3s from the floor -- Stars appear to be better at running the fast break from what this poster has seen.
CUW over Lakeland (8 chances in 10 it'll come down to yet another Hendrickson buzzer-beater or late game-heroics) Lakeland can pull off the trifecta if it plays like it did before it's last loss.
WLC over Benedictine: Potential trap game here -- I expect this to be a bit closer than the first match-up between these squads.
Turns out I was wrong on CUC/MSOE (Raiders got a boat load of points off turnovers)
WLC/Benedictine: Warriors had 23-15 advantage in points off turnovers
Marian/Dominican: Sabers' Becker goes off for 36 pts, but the Fond du Lac squad falls short (Dominican: 40-24 rebounding advantage--Stars also hit 8 shots from beyond the arc in the contest.)
CUW/Lakeland: Falcons had a 48-26 rebounding advantage.
Semi-Finals: MSOE/Dominican: (Stars lost by 2 points in both of the previous matchups between these teams --first loss on a Larsen basket with 2 seconds left on the clock).
CUW/WLC: (this year a round earlier than usual for these squads, who if memory serves correct met in the final 2 of the previous 3 seasons).
Intend to reveal my guesses in a couple of days.
2/24/12 guesses:
MSOE over Dominican: Stars can take this if Raiders have problems taking care of the ball and Dominican gets a lot of fast break points (Cayo had big games in terms of points and rebounds in both of the other matchups).
WLC over CUW: Putting my heart above my head on this one. Which squad asserts itself on the glass?
Looks like it'll be a Dominican/WLC final:
MSOE was trailing by 5 with 2 seconds left:
WLC 58, CUW 55 Final
The final will be interesting. The two highest scoring teams in the conference will be going at it. It could very well come down to who has the most left in the tank. The Warriors just beat Dominican last weekend in the NAthCon Challenge game, however, the Stars have shown they can run the break and shoot 3s as well. (they were up 14-9 at one point in that Challenge game--) here's hoping the Warriors can keep up the good D.
Welcome back to the NCAA D3 Tournament, WLC!
Final: Warriors 85, Dominican 61 (Warriors shot 61% from floor in 1st half and held on, although for a while there in the 2nd half, both teams seemed to be trading turnovers)
Opening round WLC at #5 Calvin - Haltime - Calvin 22 WLC 17
Very ugly first half by both teams, however if this pattern continues and WLC can hit a couple extra buckets inside during the second half they have a good chance of pulling off the big upset of the host team.
Final Calvin 59 WLC 47
Much closer than it looks, a 5-7 point game the whole way, WLC tied it twice in the second half. WLC played better in the second half, but Calvin played just a little bit better.
Good representation on the part of th NAC
Yeah, that 8-0 run Calvin went on after WLC was only down 42-39 was the difference.
How does 2012-13 look? Top returners? Team(s) with the early line on the AQ?
Quote from: newcardfan on March 31, 2012, 08:54:53 AM
How does 2012-13 look? Top returners? Team(s) with the early line on the AQ?
Interesting question, I think there could be a lot of changes throughout the standings next year, many good players (ones that carried their teams) are gone, almost every team has taken some kind of hit.
Always in contention:
WLC- Lose Johnson, someone will step up to take her place, like every other year a great player leaves another is ready to fill in.
CUW- 4 starters return, can they find a big to replace Kerns? what about their depth? Luethe could be POY
In the hunt:
Dominican- Maybe not even in consideration this high up, lost to many key seniors (Blom/Budz), can they reload or are they rebuilding?
Lakeland- Return 4 starters, but only 6 total, can they bring in any impact players? who replaces the NCAA DIII Asst/TO leader?
Maranatha- Surprise team this year, all starter return for a team that beat expectations last year and will only get better.
Something there... but not enough:
Marian- return some good key players, loss of Becker and Zuts to much to overcome, cant live and die on the 3
Edgewood- Tobin returns for final year, can the young players from last year build on their experience?
MSOE- need a big recruiting class to get back to the top, loss of Cayo obviously to big to overcome, especially with current roster, some carry over experience
Need to much to contend:
CUC- loss of Rickett to much, not enough carryovers to be considered contenders
Alverno- See CUC (Kontowski)
Benedictine- Gaede Returns but lose Walsh, need others to step up
Long ways to go:
Rockford- not a good team with Curry, going to be even worse with out, also need to get more bodies, tough season playing with only 7 on the bench for some games
Aurora- new coach, maybe things turn around? not next year though.
Next season could come down to who out of the top 5 teams here can bring in the most impactful freshman? Lots of good players gone, a lot a players are going to have to step up for a lot of teams. Should be an interesting season though, looking forward to it.
I agree with most of NACfan215's takes:
Regarding WLC: Do the Warriors put Dillon in the starting line-up? With the 4 other starters returning, that wouldn't be imperative, --just another option
Dominican could still be up there-- Oliver is capable of stepping up--it'll depend upon whether the returning talls do, too.
Maranatha: Wouldn't hurt to land another tall or two and another ball-handler to take a bit of that load off Peotter (who logged a lot of minutes last season)
Quote from: NACfan215 on April 09, 2012, 10:03:17 PM
Quote from: newcardfan on March 31, 2012, 08:54:53 AM
How does 2012-13 look? Top returners? Team(s) with the early line on the AQ?
Interesting question, I think there could be a lot of changes throughout the standings next year, many good players (ones that carried their teams) are gone, almost every team has taken some kind of hit.
Always in contention:
WLC- Lose Johnson, someone will step up to take her place, like every other year a great player leaves another is ready to fill in.
CUW- 4 starters return, can they find a big to replace Kerns? what about their depth? Luethe could be POY
In the hunt:
Dominican- Maybe not even in consideration this high up, lost to many key seniors (Blom/Budz), can they reload or are they rebuilding?
Lakeland- Return 4 starters, but only 6 total, can they bring in any impact players? who replaces the NCAA DIII Asst/TO leader?
Maranatha- Surprise team this year, all starter return for a team that beat expectations last year and will only get better.
Something there... but not enough:
Marian- return some good key players, loss of Becker and Zuts to much to overcome, cant live and die on the 3
Edgewood- Tobin returns for final year, can the young players from last year build on their experience?
MSOE- need a big recruiting class to get back to the top, loss of Cayo obviously to big to overcome, especially with current roster, some carry over experience
Need to much to contend:
CUC- loss of Rickett to much, not enough carryovers to be considered contenders
Alverno- See CUC (Kontowski)
Benedictine- Gaede Returns but lose Walsh, need others to step up
Long ways to go:
Rockford- not a good team with Curry, going to be even worse with out, also need to get more bodies, tough season playing with only 7 on the bench for some games
Aurora- new coach, maybe things turn around? not next year though.
Next season could come down to who out of the top 5 teams here can bring in the most impactful freshman? Lots of good players gone, a lot a players are going to have to step up for a lot of teams. Should be an interesting season though, looking forward to it.
Sounds like a great opportunity for freshman to come in and contribute immediately. Always a plus in recruiting when players know they have a shot at significant playing time. Should make for an exciting season!!
NACfan215's post got me to look up Marian's stats. For the season (and within conference play), they took 26 3FG att/game and 29 2FG att/game.
They made .325 of their 3FG att, a reasonable pct, equivalent to .487 for 2FGs. Where they were somewhat deficient was in the offensive rebound category, seems to me. They got 30 pct of possible offensive rebounds (.31 in NAC play). If you shoot a lot of threes, the number 1 rule is to contest for offensive rebounds, since you're going to miss 2/3 of the 3FGs.
When I say contest for offensive rebounds, I mean 3 or 4 of your players doing so.
That said, Marian did alright: 9-9 in NAC play and 13-13 overall.
Most of the NAC teams below them lived and died with the 2.
Quote from: RogK on April 16, 2012, 11:50:23 AM
NACfan215's post got me to look up Marian's stats. For the season (and within conference play), they took 26 3FG att/game and 29 2FG att/game.
They made .325 of their 3FG att, a reasonable pct, equivalent to .487 for 2FGs. Where they were somewhat deficient was in the offensive rebound category, seems to me. They got 30 pct of possible offensive rebounds (.31 in NAC play). If you shoot a lot of threes, the number 1 rule is to contest for offensive rebounds, since you're going to miss 2/3 of the 3FGs.
When I say contest for offensive rebounds, I mean 3 or 4 of your players doing so.
That said, Marian did alright: 9-9 in NAC play and 13-13 overall.
Most of the NAC teams below them lived and died with the 2.
Agreed, they were a very good team and a tough team to beat when making their 3s, however if you look at their record after Zuts left (Mid to late January) they were very average at best. What I was referring to is next years squad, which I believe will struggle a lot more than this year, mainly for two reason. 1. Like you said when you rely on the 3s so much you have to be above avg at offense rebounding, their problem next year is they lose their top two (if not their only two) offense rebounding threats in Zuts and Becker. 2. And arguebly just as important is an inside out game, which frees up shooters for open shots. With Becker gone there is no threat inside which frees up teams to focus solely on the shooters, when you have a big that is as good as a passer as Becker was it frees up alot of open shots for your good shooters. I would almost say its a bigger hit to a good 3 point shooting team losing Becker and the inside present than it would be to lose your best 3 point shooter?
But...anyone can get hot on any night.
What also helped last season was Marian had the best 3-pt shooter in all of D3 last year in terms of FG pct. (Albert).
Bittersweet news here:
http://northernac.org/releases/20120517mbbcw
Dominican's got a new coach:
http://northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2012-13/releases/20120604xp587f
New president and AD at lakeland after 20 years, could see some big changes on the athletic front.
Well I figured we could get some preseason chatter going seeing as Monday is the official start to the season and teams can officially start practice.
Any big news over the summer? Who are the current favorites? What can we expect from non-conference play? Anyone want to give a crack at a preseason ranking of the NAC?
One big thing that I noticed in my search was from the WLC team, and maybe this is already common knowledge but the reigning NAC freshman of the year Katelyn Kuehl is no longer on the roster? Is this correc, and if so was it a transfer or change of heart for basketball? How does that change WLC season predictions and where they stand within the NAC? After losing Johnson to graduation and now Kuehl, is that to much to replace? Maybe WLCALUM has some input on this?
I think its going to be a great year with more teams vying for the top spots and a more balanced outcome to the season (not sure if there are the 1-2 dominate teams as in years past)
Good Luck to all the teams as they start practices on Monday and may everyone have a safe and injury free season.
Quote from: NACfan215 on October 11, 2012, 10:49:28 PM
Well I figured we could get some preseason chatter going seeing as Monday is the official start to the season and teams can officially start practice.
Any big news over the summer? Who are the current favorites? What can we expect from non-conference play? Anyone want to give a crack at a preseason ranking of the NAC?
One big thing that I noticed in my search was from the WLC team, and maybe this is already common knowledge but the reigning NAC freshman of the year Katelyn Kuehl is no longer on the roster? Is this correc, and if so was it a transfer or change of heart for basketball? How does that change WLC season predictions and where they stand within the NAC? After losing Johnson to graduation and now Kuehl, is that to much to replace? Maybe WLCALUM has some input on this?
I think its going to be a great year with more teams vying for the top spots and a more balanced outcome to the season (not sure if there are the 1-2 dominate teams as in years past)
Good Luck to all the teams as they start practices on Monday and may everyone have a safe and injury free season.
I'm glad to report, for a variety of selfish reasons, that Kuehl is now a member of the UW Oshkosh Women's basketball team. WLC will still be tough though I am sure. CUW has some skill coming back I'm pretty sure. LC has some pieces as well. MSOE will likely take a dip after losing Cayo. Coaching change at Dominican leaves question marks as well. I expect Rockford to be better this year. Those are my thoughts and insights.
Quote from: NACfan215 on October 11, 2012, 10:49:28 PM
Well I figured we could get some preseason chatter going seeing as Monday is the official start to the season and teams can officially start practice.
Any big news over the summer? Who are the current favorites? What can we expect from non-conference play? Anyone want to give a crack at a preseason ranking of the NAC?
One big thing that I noticed in my search was from the WLC team, and maybe this is already common knowledge but the reigning NAC freshman of the year Katelyn Kuehl is no longer on the roster? Is this correc, and if so was it a transfer or change of heart for basketball? How does that change WLC season predictions and where they stand within the NAC? After losing Johnson to graduation and now Kuehl, is that to much to replace? Maybe WLCALUM has some input on this?
I think its going to be a great year with more teams vying for the top spots and a more balanced outcome to the season (not sure if there are the 1-2 dominate teams as in years past)
Good Luck to all the teams as they start practices on Monday and may everyone have a safe and injury free season.
I am a little shocked Kuehl transferred to Oshkosh....She had a bright future at WLC (IMO she would've been the next player to break the 1,000 point mark after Dillion does).
Overall it will be a blow for WLC to adsorb, but they still have everyone else coming back. Shavon Dillion I think will be moved back into the starting lineup after coming off the bench. Day, Alister, Hoft will dial it up from long range again this year and Kristen Schulz will be the inside presence again this year.
I see the North like this right now.
1. Wisconsin Lutheran
2. Concordia Wisconsin
3. Lakeland
4. Edgewood
5. Maranatha
6. Marian
7. Alverno
Maranatha and Marian could be switched around here.
The South is a little unclear here.
1. Dominican
2. MSOE
and everyone else factoring in after that.
I agree with the WLC analysis, plus I believe they should be #1 until someone knocks them off.
As for CUW and LC, I have them 2a and 2b as each teams has 5 or 6 total returning players, each team has 4 returning starters, and each team has 6-8 incoming freshman. I believe the winner of those two will be determined by which team has a more impactfull freshman class.
In regards of Maranatha and Marian being flipped, I firmly believe Marian will have a significant drop this year with the loss of Becker. I would actually argue that Maranatha and Edgewood could be flipped in the standings, I really think MBBC can have a strong year with almost their entire starting lineup returning, if they build some depth they will be a tough team to beat.
As for the south, I am not sold on Dominican as they lose their top two scorers and arguebly their best two players, plus a coaching transition, thats a lot to replace for any team to repeat. Same can be said for MSOE, not much there once you take away Cayo. My surprise team from the south this year will be CUC as rumor has it Genke from LC has transfered from LC to CUC and should be a major addition for CUC this season.
Quote from: NACfan215 on October 13, 2012, 12:13:31 AM
I agree with the WLC analysis, plus I believe they should be #1 until someone knocks them off.
As for CUW and LC, I have them 2a and 2b as each teams has 5 or 6 total returning players, each team has 4 returning starters, and each team has 6-8 incoming freshman. I believe the winner of those two will be determined by which team has a more impactfull freshman class.
In regards of Maranatha and Marian being flipped, I firmly believe Marian will have a significant drop this year with the loss of Becker. I would actually argue that Maranatha and Edgewood could be flipped in the standings, I really think MBBC can have a strong year with almost their entire starting lineup returning, if they build some depth they will be a tough team to beat.
As for the south, I am not sold on Dominican as they lose their top two scorers and arguebly their best two players, plus a coaching transition, thats a lot to replace for any team to repeat. Same can be said for MSOE, not much there once you take away Cayo. My surprise team from the south this year will be CUC as rumor has it Genke from LC has transfered from LC to CUC and should be a major addition for CUC this season.
Agreed on CUC. Just found out about that transfer tonight. It's a game changer.
I can guarantee you that WLC will not win the North Division this year. ;)
You may not realize that the divisions have rotated for this year....
North: Alverno, CUW, Edgewood, Lakeland, MBBC, Marian, MSOE
South: Aurora, Benedictine, CUC, Dominican, Rockford, WLC
This is also the last year that the league will split into divisions. Once MBBC exits the NAC will scrap the divisions and play all together.
Quote from: Just Bill on October 15, 2012, 12:19:41 PM
I can guarantee you that WLC will not win the North Division this year. ;)
You may not realize that the divisions have rotated for this year....
North: Alverno, CUW, Edgewood, Lakeland, MBBC, Marian, MSOE
South: Aurora, Benedictine, CUC, Dominican, Rockford, WLC
This is also the last year that the league will split into divisions. Once MBBC exits the NAC will scrap the divisions and play all together.
This is correct, I forgot to take into account the division rotation.
With that being said, WLC will NO DOUBT win the South division this year
As for the North, I believe that leaves it as a toss up between CUW and LC with a couple darkhorses being Edgewood and MBBC (yes I did say that)
But I think the North overall this year will be a fairly tight race all the way till the end.
Hope everyone had a great first day of practice and cant wait for the first games.
Quote from: Just Bill on October 15, 2012, 12:19:41 PM
I can guarantee you that WLC will not win the North Division this year. ;)
You may not realize that the divisions have rotated for this year....
North: Alverno, CUW, Edgewood, Lakeland, MBBC, Marian, MSOE
South: Aurora, Benedictine, CUC, Dominican, Rockford, WLC
This is also the last year that the league will split into divisions. Once MBBC exits the NAC will scrap the divisions and play all together.
I just starting to like WLC in the North Division. Well WLC should be the heavy favorite to win the South.
I hope you all stick around for the season. This has been a rather dull message board in recent history.
Quote from: Just Bill on October 17, 2012, 12:48:43 PM
I hope you all stick around for the season. This has been a rather dull message board in recent history.
I'll be here. No worries.
Quote from: Just Bill on October 17, 2012, 12:48:43 PM
I hope you all stick around for the season. This has been a rather dull message board in recent history.
I'll pop in from time to time.
Quote from: Just Bill on October 17, 2012, 12:48:43 PM
I hope you all stick around for the season. This has been a rather dull message board in recent history.
I'll be here ALL season
Here's the 2012-13 Coaches Poll
First place votes in ()
North
1. Concordia Wisconsin 78 (10)
2. Lakeland 74 (3)
3. Edgewood 62
4. Marian 49
5. Maranatha 43
6. MSOE 30
7. Alverno 18
South
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 78 (13)
2. Benedictine 55
3. Dominican 53
4. Concordia Chicago 43
5. Rockford 22
6. Aurora 20
Little surprised to see Benedictine in the 2 spot in the South, I dont think they will finish that high, but we shall see.
North is about what I anticipated, I would probably flop Marian and Maranatha, I think MBBC makes the conference tourney this year with all the returning players who have been together for a couple years now.
I, too, would like to see MBBC get in -- it'd be a nice statement for DeLozier, Peotter & Co just before the Crusaders leave the NAthCon.
Any updates on any of the NAC exhibition games from the last couple weeks? games start for real this week, just wondering what some of the teams out there are looking like?
Only thing on the NAC site was CUC at Illinois, which is not a good judgement of how a team will be.
CUC is the only one who had an exhibition game, that's why they are on the schedule. The others have had scrimmages, but I don't know who played who or where.
Lakeland scrimmaged Cardinal Stritch and Stevens Point. Those are some tough opponents, the former being an NAIA school and the latter being a perennial power house in the nation's best conference along with having a preseason first team All-American. LC learned a lot about toughness and their freshmen got a taste of what it will be like at this level.
One thing I did notice that I was unaware of, is when looking at CUC Exhibition game, I noticed in the box score Kristina Ryckett, there top player from last year. Based on last years roster I was under the assumption that she was a senior, and now she is back? Plus the addition of Genke, I believe this will be a tough team this year in the NAC with Ryckett back and Genke playing next to her.
Well tip off is only three days away...Here is week one's games.
11/15
Marian at Lawrence
Rockford at Beloit
Dominican at Elmhurst
11/16
Aurora at Bluffton
Edgewood at Dubuque
Benedictine vs Chicago (at Ripon)
Lakeland at St. Norbert
Hamline at Wisconsin Lutheran
MSOE at North Park
Concordia Chicago vs Luther
11/17
Benedictine vs UW-Superior or Ripon
Aurora vs Pitt-Greenburg or Hiram
Lakeland vs Carthage or UW-River Falls
MSOE at Elmhurst
North Park at Dominican
Marian at Maranatha
Concordia Chicago at Cornell
Concordia Wisconsin at Beloit
Coe at Rockford
Edgewood at Loras
Stephens at Alverno
Wisconsin Lutheran vs UW-Stout or DePauw
11/18:
Alverno vs. St. Catherine's or Mt. Mary
I'll take a crack at tonights games and try to update the weekends games after I have more time to look into the matchups.
Marian over Lawrence: more interested in Marians stats than the outcome, assuming an easy win for Marian, would like to see who will produce for them aside from Alberts three's
Beloit over Rockford: can't imagine Rockford any better this year, specially without Curry. Beloit has enough returning talent to win this fairly easily, plus I heard they got a big time recruit who spurned most NAC teams as well as some DII schools.
Elmhurst over Dominican: tough matchup for DU, a good team from a really good conference, to much turnover at DU this year, Elmhurst pulls away late with more experience and a much deeper bench.
Good games to kickoff the season, can't wait till this weekends matchups, we should learn a lot.
Final: Marian 64, Lawrence 60
Sabers came out of the gate slow and at one point trailed by 14 in the first half. 2nd half, Marian made some adjustments on O (in terms of inside-outside ball movement) and built up a double-digit lead itself. Lawrence made it close toward the end, but Marian's late clutch FT-shooting enabled them to open up with a win on the road.
Marian's Cerveny hit a few 3s in the first half, and Huray was able to get baseline penetration for hoops several times in the second half.
3 for 3 on opening night.
Marian v Lawrence: see above
Rockford drops a game on the road at Beloit, tie game at half turns into a 12 point loss for Rockford, Beloit experienced guards just to much.
Dominican blown out of the gym at Elmhurst 90-47, this was basically over from the tip.
11/16
Aurora at Bluffton: Aurora may be better this year, but not enough to beat their HCAC opponent here.
Edgewood at Dubuque: Toss up. Depth issues plagued the Eagles last year and should bounce back this year.
Benedictine vs Chicago (at Ripon): Chicago lost a lot of production but they should be able to take care of Benedictine.
Lakeland at St. Norbert: Should be an interesting matchup to say the least.
Hamline at Wisconsin Lutheran: I will be at the game (both games actually today). I think WLC can duplicate last seasons results again this year despite losing Johnson, Newberger, and Kuehl (UW-O).
MSOE at North Park: MSOE is taking a step back this year after losing Cayo to graduation.
Concordia Chicago vs Luther: Toss up....
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 16, 2012, 10:58:56 AM
11/16
Aurora at Bluffton: Aurora may be better this year, but not enough to beat their HCAC opponent here. Same
Edgewood at Dubuque: Toss up. Depth issues plagued the Eagles last year and should bounce back this year. I went with Dubuque at home because of the depth reason
Benedictine vs Chicago (at Ripon): Chicago lost a lot of production but they should be able to take care of Benedictine.Same, although I think BU will be much improved
Lakeland at St. Norbert: Should be an interesting matchup to say the least.This is the most intrigueing matchup of the day, SNC is not what they were the last few years, LC is breaking in a lot of freshman, I give SNC the advantage at home
Hamline at Wisconsin Lutheran: I will be at the game (both games actually today). I think WLC can duplicate last seasons results again this year despite losing Johnson, Newberger, and Kuehl (UW-O).Same, although I beleive WLC will not be quit as good as last season but still good
MSOE at North Park: MSOE is taking a step back this year after losing Cayo to graduation.Same, times two on Cayo
Concordia Chicago vs Luther: Toss up....I'm going with CUC on the road to start the season, Rickett and Genke to much to stop for Luther.
Technically, Edgewood-Dubuque is neutral site. Those games this weekend are all at Loras College.
Quote from: Just Bill on November 16, 2012, 12:03:20 PM
Technically, Edgewood-Dubuque is neutral site. Those games this weekend are all at Loras College.
Thanks Bill, I noticed that, I'll still take Dubuque in this one. Since it could basically be considered a home game (no out of town travel required)
Bluffton 54, Aurora 46 Final
Bluffton outrebounded the Spartans and had 29 FTA's to Aurora's 11/
Halftime, SNC 30 LC 26, LC led most the half, SNC finished the half on a 7-0 run.
Wisconsin Lutheran 58 Hamline 53
WLC overcame cold shooting and sloppy ball handling for most of the game to rally in the second half against a scrappy Hamline team.
WLC will face off against #4 Depauw who ripped UW-Stout 88-48 in the early game.
SNC 58 LC 42, horrible 2nd half by LC. Another tough game tomorrow against UW RF.
Only game I was off on tonight was CUC getting blown out by Luther 82-40, I can say I didnt see that coming. Everything else on the night was about what I expected. I wasnt completely sure on the Edgewood game, but I also didnt expect them to be beat as badly as they were. BU seems to have given Chicago a good challenge. Hopefully the NAC can pick up a couple more wins in tomorrows games.
11/17
Benedictine vs Ripon: BU did well in their loss to Chicago...I think they have the edge here.
Aurora vs Pitt-Greenburg: Uh...Toss Up?
Lakeland vs UW-River Falls: River Falls looks to have the better edge here.
MSOE at Elmhurst: MSOE gets run out of the gym by a second straight CCIW team.
North Park at Dominican: If Elmhurst did what they did to MSOE in game one...It could be a long one for the Stars.
Marian at Maranatha: Why not?
Concordia Chicago at Cornell: Toss Up
Concordia Wisconsin at Beloit: CUW isn't Rockford...
Coe at Rockford: Still not convinced that the Regents can improve much from last year.
Edgewood at Loras: Toss up part duece
Stephens at Alverno: Don't know much about Stephens and I'll go with the Inferno here
Wisconsin Lutheran vs DePauw: Not sure if Stout is way down this year but Depauw looked like they were having practice on the court being up by 60 at one point in the second half. They don't have much size to them, but they have speed and a swarming D. They move the ball very well on the offensive end. WLC needs to shoot the ball better and limit their turnovers while figuring a way to slow down Depauw's offense if they want to notch the biggest win in program history.
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11/17
Benedictine vs Ripon: BU did well in their loss to Chicago...I think they have the edge here.I think BU played well against Chicago but I believe they drop a close one here
Aurora vs Pitt-Greenburg: Uh...Toss Up?Agree, cant go with Aurora until they show improvement
Lakeland vs UW-River Falls: River Falls looks to have the better edge here.Agree, probably an advantage in overall athleticism
MSOE at Elmhurst: MSOE gets run out of the gym by a second straight CCIW team.Agree, this will get ugly real early
North Park at Dominican: If Elmhurst did what they did to MSOE in game one...It could be a long one for the Stars.Agree, see MSOE/Elmhurst
Marian at Maranatha: Why not?Agree, Why? Maranatha experience/Marian lack of size
Concordia Chicago at Cornell: Toss UpAgree, if CUC plays like they did today it wont be close
Concordia Wisconsin at Beloit: CUW isn't Rockford...Beloit, im going with the slight upset here, Beloit will expose the lack of size for CUW inside
Coe at Rockford: Still not convinced that the Regents can improve much from last year.Agree
Edgewood at Loras: Toss up part dueceAgree, see CUC/Cornell
Stephens at Alverno: Don't know much about Stephens and I'll go with the Inferno hereAgree, only for the fact they are at home
Wisconsin Lutheran vs DePauw: Not sure if Stout is way down this year but Depauw looked like they were having practice on the court being up by 60 at one point in the second half. They don't have much size to them, but they have speed and a swarming D. They move the ball very well on the offensive end. WLC needs to shoot the ball better and limit their turnovers while figuring a way to slow down Depauw's offense if they want to notch the biggest win in program history.Agree, although I dont think this will be close at all
Halftime River Falls 36 Lakeland 18
Final River Falls 71 Lakeland 49, Muskies played much tougher in the 2nd half.
Halftime: Maranatha 27, Marian 20
Final: Maranatha 56, Marian 51
Marian cut the lead to 1 on a couple of occasions, but then the Crusaders would get an inside basket or FT's for breathing room. Crusaders got a boatload of points off turnovers, Marian's 3 pt shooters were heavily defended toward the end of the game and the Sabers didn't capitalize.
Depauw leads Wisconsin Lutheran 23-22 at half.
Based on Aurora's site it appears they beat Pitt Greensburg 76-71.
Also, am I reading the NAC site correctly, is Alverno currently playing their SECOND game of the day?
Yes. Mount Mary pulled out of Alverno's tournament on Thursday because they weren't capable of fielding a team. In order to still give St. Kate's and Stephens two games, they volunteered to play St. Kate's at 1:00 today and Stephens at 7:00. St. Kate's and Stephens will play each other tomorrow.
They almost pulled off the double, losing to Stephens in 2OT.
Quote from: Just Bill on November 18, 2012, 01:31:07 AM
Yes. Mount Mary pulled out of Alverno's tournament on Thursday because they weren't capable of fielding a team. In order to still give St. Kate's and Stephens two games, they volunteered to play St. Kate's at 1:00 today and Stephens at 7:00. St. Kate's and Stephens will play each other tomorrow.
They almost pulled off the double, losing to Stephens in 2OT.
Is it a one time deal for Mount Mary with the numbers or is it season threatening? WLC and MSOE are on their schedule (along with the Nath-Con Challenge at the end of the year).
I'm not sure, but I think they've packed it in for the season. A good number of NathCon teams have scheduled them, so there's probably some scrambling going on.
P.S. There is no NAC Challenge anymore. Scrapped by the coaches.
One game tonight, CUW hosts a tough Carroll team that almost knocked off #7 UW WW last week. They led by as many as 10 in the second half but couldn't finish it off. Tough call here I'm going to go with Carroll winning a tight one on the road with more depth and tough defensive effort.
Tonight's slate of games:
Dominican at Albion: Prolly one of the closer games tonight....Still it won't be enough.
Millikin at Edgewood: Millikin pulls away late.
Aurora at Wheaton: Over by half....
Marian at UW-Stevens Point: Pointers already lead.....
Loras at Concordia Chicago: CUC hasn't been close yet this season. I think this will be a closer game, but again the fall short here.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 20, 2012, 08:45:56 AM
Tonight's slate of games:
Dominican at Albion: Prolly one of the closer games tonight....Still it won't be enough.
Millikin at Edgewood: Millikin pulls away late.
Aurora at Wheaton: Over by half....
Marian at UW-Stevens Point: Pointers already lead.....
Loras at Concordia Chicago: CUC hasn't been close yet this season. I think this will be a closer game, but again the fall short here.
Looks like another 0'fer night for the NAC, I agree with all the picks above. The only game I could see going the NAC's way would be if Dominican can pull out their first win of the season, tough to gauge how good they really are after playing to overpowering teams in their first two games.
Tough loss at home for CUW last night, Carroll wins 56-46, Luethe had 20 pts for CUW, no one else on the roster had more than 6. Carroll had 4 starters in double digets but failed to get any points from its bench.
Albion 33, Dominican 24 Half
Albion 70, Dominican 62 Final
Albion-- 20 pts off Dominican turnovers
Millikin 67, Edgewood 54 2 secs left 2nd half:
Eagles had it down to 2 (54-52) with 3 1/2 minutes left, but didn't get over the hump.
Wheaton (IL) 96
Aurora 44
Final
Loras (IA) 50
Concordia Chicago 40
Final
#7 UW-Stevens Point 68
Marian 19
Sabres score eight points in the second half and fail to hit the twenty point mark in the game. Ouch......
Three games tonight....
Ashford at Rockford: Uh....Rockford should win against their NAIA opponent right?
North Park at Benedictine: North Park makes it 3-0 against Nath-Con teams in a little closer of a game.
Silver Lake at Wisconsin Lutheran: The more shocking thing is that WLC is 5-14 against Silver Lake when they were conference foes in the LMC in the early 90's. WLC blows away Silver Lake in this one.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 21, 2012, 12:38:44 PM
Ashford at Rockford: Uh....Rockford should win against their NAIA opponent right?
Ashford beat Rockford by 23 last year, so I wouldn't count on a Regent win. Anything can happen.
http://www.ashfordathletics.com/stats/2011-12/wBasketball/aurcwb11.htm
Quote from: Just Bill on November 21, 2012, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 21, 2012, 12:38:44 PM
Ashford at Rockford: Uh....Rockford should win against their NAIA opponent right?
Ashford beat Rockford by 23 last year, so I wouldn't count on a Regent win. Anything can happen.
http://www.ashfordathletics.com/stats/2011-12/wBasketball/aurcwb11.htm
I was kind of implying that. Not really sure if the Regents are better this year than last year.
Wisconsin Lutheran has no problems with Silver Lake winning 91-48
Krissy Day did not play tonight...Any idea why?
11/24/12 NAthCon In-Conference docket:
MSOE/Lakeland: Muskies should take this one at home.
Rockford/Aurora: Spartans in a tight one.
CUW/Alverno: Falcons (Inferno could pull this off if the home squad can run on CUW and has a hot shooting day).
Non-conference game comment: It'll be interesting to see how long Edgewood can hang in with UW-Whitewater.
I agree with the conference picks, I believe the LC/MSOE game will be a tight one all the way through.
non-conference - I am interested in seeing if CUC can finally pull it together for a game.
Half: Lakeland 43, MSOE 25
Final: Lakeland 83, MSOE 42 (Muskies' Thrune & Co. were hitting their 3s in the first half. Eisner also had a productive game inside and at the FT line. Lakeland's quickness was too much for MSOE today.)
Catching the last few minutes of the NCC/Benedictine barnburner (road squad up 3 as I post with under 4 min. left).
Final: North Central IL 96, Benedictine 91
(Per Eagle announcer, home squad was once up by 10, when I joined the broadcast, it was tighter--shortly after, NCC got 3 successive baskets off their press defense to take the lead for good with approx. 3 minutes left. IL Eagles missed several FT's down the stretch.)
Northern Athletics Conference Standings as of 11/25/12
North
1. Maranatha 1-0 (1-0)
2. Alverno 2-1 (1-0)
3. Lakeland 1-2 (1-0)
4. Edgewood 0-4 (0-0)
5. Concordia Wisconsin 1-2 (0-1)
6. Marian 1-2 (0-1)
7. MSOE 0-3 (0-1)
South
1. Aurora 2-2 (1-0)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 2-1 (0-0)
3. Dominican 0-3 (0-0)
4. Benedictine 0-4 (0-0)
5. Concordia Chicago 0-4 (0-0)
6. Rockford 0-4 (0-1)
Initial thoughts:
Is Alverno better than advertised or did they catch Concordia Wisconsin at the right time?
WLC is still trying to get in the groove offensively. More or less the matchup against Hamline showed some of the things that they need to work on. IMO they are still adjusting to not have Johnson and Kuehl on the roster. Shavon Dillion is about 14 points away from 1,000 career points.
Aurora as it looks like they are better than where they were at last year. Last year for them was a trainwreck. This week's matchup with WLC could establish who is the early leader in the South.
The Nath-Con is really struggling out of conference so far this year (6-28 out of conference record). Out of thirteen teams six of them are winless.
CUW shot 29% from the floor vs. Alverno, while the Inferno shot 55%. Inferno have a transfer player, (Gorman) who went off for 21 pts in the contest. per box score.
Just two games tonight....
Trinity International at Dominican: Dominican breaks into the win column against a sliding Trojans team that has lost five straight.
UW-Oshkosh at Lakeland: Oshkosh shouldn't have much trouble with Lakeland.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 26, 2012, 12:41:11 PM
Just two games tonight....
Trinity International at Dominican: Dominican breaks into the win column against a sliding Trojans team that has lost five straight.
UW-Oshkosh at Lakeland: Oshkosh shouldn't have much trouble with Lakeland.
The Titans didn't have much trouble on the back of a 20 point lead and 30-14 rebounding edge in the first half. Muskies won the 2nd half by 10 but the game was never really in any dout.
Maranatha shot 73% from the floor in the 2nd half in a victory on the road at Alverno. Lady Crusaders also drained 8 3-pointers in the game.
11/28 NAthCon docket:
Benedictine/CUC: Going with IL Eagles on the road, they appear to have a bit more depth.
Lakeland/CUW: Lakeland (better inside-outside scoring balance of late).
Edgewood/Marian: Sabers in a tight one, (especially if they hit enough 3s and Huray is allowed repeated baseline penetration-however Edgewood can still take this if their talls score big and crash the boards.)
Rockford/Dominican: Stars at home in a tight one. Depends who takes care of the ball better.
Aurora/WLC: Warriors at home. Their D will be there. As long as they aren't overly reliant on the 3, they'll be OK.
I agree with your picks WLCAlum....The only game that could go either way is the Edgewood at Marian game. WLC IMO is still looking for that shooting touch that has been somewhat missing so far this season. I think Dillion could hit the 1,000 point barrier as she only needs 14 more points to break it.
Game of the night: Lakeland at CUW
Presason #1 v #2 in the North, both teams coming off opposite games (LC blowing out MSOE and CUW getting manhandled at Alverno) we should find out a lot about both teams after tonights game.
Update: Benedictine 40, CUC 30 Half.
Final: CUC 64, Benedictine 61
(Genke got into foul trouble in the 1st half; CUC had a strong shooting 2nd half: Rickett was held to 7 pts, but 3 other Cougar players reached double-figures scoring. Eagles' Batty missed a potential game-tying 3-pointer on the last play.)
Somewhat unexpected final:
Rockford 63, Dominican 51 (Stars had an off night shooting from the floor, Regents get off the in-conference schneid by getting a win on the road.)
Concordia Wisconsin 72
Lakeland 57
Final
Wisconsin Lutheran 72
Aurora 37
Final
Shavon Dillion broke the 1,000 point barrier with a game high 17 points. WLC held Aurora to 17.9% shooting.
Edgewood 75
Marian 52
Final
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on November 28, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
Somewhat unexpected final:
Rockford 63, Dominican 51 (Stars had an off night shooting from the floor, Regents get off the in-conference schneid by getting a win on the road.)
That is a surprising score. I thought the Stars had some pieces to put together a solid season, but it looks like they could be in store for a long season.
12/1 Matchups
Maranatha at Grace Bible (MI): Don't know much about Grace Bible....Maranatha continues their strong start.
Lakeland at Benedictine: Muskies were brought back down to earth against CUW. They bounce back against the Eagles.
Aurora at Edgewood: Aurora was on the wrong end of a blowout against WLC. Edgewood wins running away.
Marian at Dominican: Marian is the better team at this point of the season.
Concordia Wisconsin at Concordia Chicago: Well these two could be playing each other again later in the season at the CIT. Falcons win comfortably here.
Wisconsin Lutheran at MSOE: WLC used their D in their big win over Aurora. MSOE is in for a long year by the looks of things. WLC wins handily.
Alverno at Rockford: Not sure if Rockford is better than expected or Dominican is that down this year. Anyways the Inferno are the safe bet here.
Maranatha
Lakeland
Edgewood
Dominican (moreso if the Stars can run on Marian and the Sabers aren't hitting their 3s)
CUW
WLC
Alverno (the Stars may be a bit more down than expected--Oliver didn't return.)
Wisconsin Lutheran 34
MSOE 9
Half
Quote from: Just Bill on December 01, 2012, 08:12:22 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on December 01, 2012, 08:10:23 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 34
MSOE 9
Half
Oh my.
A little better for the Raiders in the second half but not enough
Wisconsin Lutheran 70
MSOE 32
Final
Notes on other 12/1 finals:
Mild surprise of the day:
Benedictine 49, Lakeland 38 (Box score indicates Muskie women had a cold-shooting 2nd half- with most of their shots coming from beyond the arc that period, while IL Eagles were able to convert more within the arc).
Marian 67, Dominican 61 (Sabres hit 10 3s in the game and won despite having 2 starters foul out. )
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Wisconsin Lutheran 34
MSOE 9
Half
Oh my.
A little better for the Raiders in the second half but not enough
Wisconsin Lutheran 70
MSOE 32
Final
Methinks the Raiders are regretting having to go without 3-pt threat Collingbourne just as much as Cayo of late (graduation).
12/4 matchups:
Alverno/Lakeland: Going with the Inferno in a tight one here. (4 starters scored in double figures in the last win and Gorman is still getting good production for them. Lakeland can take this if they/re hitting their 3s)
CUW/Edgewood: Edgewood in a close one at home.
WLC/Dominican: WLC
Rockford/CUC; CUC (guards are more experienced, as long as the Cougars stay out of foul trouble, they;ll do OK here)
MSOE/Marian: Marian (I'd be surprised if the Sabers have a totally flat game at home here)
Aurora/Benedictine: IL Eagles at home.
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Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 03, 2012, 06:17:44 AM
12/4 matchups:
Alverno/Lakeland: Going with the Inferno in a tight one here. (4 starters scored in double figures in the last win and Gorman is still getting good production for them. Lakeland can take this if they/re hitting their 3s)
CUW/Edgewood: Edgewood in a close one at home.
WLC/Dominican: WLC
Rockford/CUC; CUC (guards are more experienced, as long as the Cougars stay out of foul trouble, they;ll do OK here)
MSOE/Marian: Marian (I'd be surprised if the Sabers have a totally flat game at home here)
Aurora/Benedictine: IL Eagles at home.
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Taking the Muskies in this one. I agree this game could go either way.
Concordia Wisconsin takes a tight one at Edgewood.
WLC wins running away here to set up their big weekend against Milikin and Westminster.
Marian wins by a sizable margin. MSOE is looking at a long season.
Benedictine should have no trouble against Aurora.
12/4 Scores
Wisconsin Lutheran 77
Dominican 42
Concordia Wisconsin 61
Edgewood 48
Marian 72
MSOE 60
Lakeland 59
Alverno 51
Benedictine 64
Aurora 45
Concordia Chicago 59
Rockford 51
(Box score indicates in Falcons's win, they outshot the Eagles 54%-24% in 1st half). Perhaps CUW's getting its' groove back? :-\
It was Sabers' Backes' turn to have a big game in Marians' win over MSOE (Huray was held scoreless but that didn't matter for this game).
Muskies win a tough fought game between Alverno, this game was back and forth all game, many lead changes. LC digs deep late with some good defensive stops and clutch free throw shooting to put it away.
Going to be an interesting game Thursday between LC and undefeated Maranatha.
12/6 In-Conference guesses:
CUW/MSOE: Going with CUW.
MBBC/Lakeland: Muskes win a tight one at home. Maranatha can take this if they get a lot of points off of turnovers and stay even on the glass.
Alverno/Edgewood: WI Eagle squad at home (figuring Tobin will stay out of foul trouble.) Another close one here.
Benedictine/Goshen up shortly:
Halftime: Benedictine 29, Goshen 21
Final: Benedictine 71, Goshen 53 (Hunzinger & Joseph both had double-doubles and the Eagles had a 52-35 rebounding advantage.)
The LC Muskies get an OT win over MBBC tonight. Muskies almost let this one get away with some poor execution with the lead late but got the W.
12/7-8/12 guesses:
12/7: WLC/Millikin: Millikin
12/8: WLC/Westminster: WLC
Benedictine/Rockford: (Joseph's been on a hot run the last couple of games, don't see why that shouldn't continue,)
IL Eagles.
Edgewood/MSOE: Edgewood
Maranatha/CUW: Falcons (they even up in a tight one after taking an unexpected loss on the road from MBBC last season )
Lakeland/Marian: Lakeland in a tight one. Marian can take this if the Sabers are hitting their 3s and Muske talls aren't dominating on the glass.)
Dominican/Aurora: Dominican
WLC/Millikin: Millikin has faced strong competition....Have to go with the Big Blue here.
12/8: WLC/Westminster: WLC spilits the weekend games.
Benedictine/Rockford: BU
Edgewood/MSOE: Edgewood
Maranatha/CUW: CUW
Lakeland/Marian: Lakeland
Dominican/Aurora: Dominican in a tight one.
WLC uses a late 13-2 run to put away Millikin 59-46
http://www.wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2933 (http://www.wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2933)
Maranatha jumps out to a 17-6 lead halfway through the 1st half.
Defining stat so far: 2/17 shooting for CUW
Halftime Scores
Maranatha 28
Concordia Wisconsin 23
Dominican 38
Aurora 34
Benedictine 35
Rockford 31
Marian 31
Lakeland 24
Edgewood 30
MSOE 25
Final Scores
Maranatha 52
Concordia Wisconsin 50
Aurora 67
Dominican 64
Benedictine 77
Rockford 67
Lakeland 61
Marian 49
Edgewood 62
MSOE 36
Wisconsin Lutheran 64
Westminster 46
Lakeland outscores Marian in the second half by 19 to win on the road, couple stat lines that stick out, out of Marians 17fg made 15 of them were 3pt fg (15 of 37, 40%) and Marian shot ZERO free throws for the entire game. Also LC outrebounded Marian 48-31 which was expected
CUW, shot 28% from the field, while Marantha shot 45%. 12% from 3pt land for CUW. It appears the only thing that kept them in the game was the large difference at the free throw line (16-20 for CUW, only 5-10 for Maranatha
North Division could end up being a pretty tight race to the finish, going to be interesting
Huge week for Lakeland going 3-0 after a rough start to the season.
Quote from: thrunt01 on December 09, 2012, 11:34:13 AM
Huge week for Lakeland going 3-0 after a rough start to the season.
This could be due to them riding the back of Eisner all week, a double-double in all three games inluding a 22 point 21 rebound effort agianst Maranatha on Thursday night....Player of the Week?
Quote from: NACfan215 on December 09, 2012, 12:03:42 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on December 09, 2012, 11:34:13 AM
Huge week for Lakeland going 3-0 after a rough start to the season.
This could be due to them riding the back of Eisner all week, a double-double in all three games inluding a 22 point 21 rebound effort agianst Maranatha on Thursday night....Player of the Week?
Possibly. It could also be because they got their head coach back ;D
Nath-Con Standings as of 12/9/12
North
1. Maranatha 5-1 (3-1)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 5-3 (4-2)
3. Lakeland 4-5 (4-2)
4. Alverno 4-3 (3-2)
5. Edgewood 3-6 (3-2)
6. Marian 3-4 (2-3)
7. MSOE 0-7 (0-5)
South
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 7-1 (3-0)
2. Benedictine 4-5 (3-1)
3. Concordia Chicago 2-5 (2-1)
4. Aurora 3-5 (2-3)
5. Rockford 1-7 (1-4)
6. Dominican 0-8 (0-4)
IMO the North Division race is something to be watching the entire season. Maranatha has shown it can hold their own against the top teams in the division in Concordia WI and Lakeland. It will be interesting to see how Alverno fares the rest of the season. I wasn't really expecting much out of the Inferno, but so far they have proved me wrong in that aspect.
The South is WLC and everyone else fighting for second. Hate to say that, but WLC even without Krissy Day is still heads and shoulders above everyone else in the division. Aurora is miles better than last year but the bigger question is will they be able to sustain their early success for the long haul? Dominican after reaching the NAC title game last year is struggling to get a win. They have some talent on the team but it hasn't translated into success on the court.
I think there's a lot more teams that are worse this year than they were last year, as opposed to better. I can only name two teams, Maranatha and Alverno, that I think are better than they were last year. Everyone else is either the same or worse, including WLC. WLC should roll through the regular season.
Gorman's been very consistent (double-figures scoring) for the Inferno of late.
IMHO, Benedictine could be the same or a touch better than last season if Joseph and Hunzinger continue their strong play.
Quote from: Just Bill on December 09, 2012, 05:20:40 PM
I think there's a lot more teams that are worse this year than they were last year, as opposed to better. I can only name two teams, Maranatha and Alverno, that I think are better than they were last year. Everyone else is either the same or worse, including WLC. WLC should roll through the regular season.
Can't disagree with you there. The league was pretty darn strong last season, especially at the top.
12/11 Games
Edgewood at Elmhurst: Eagles still have some rebuilding to do yet. Bluejays win this one handily.
Alverno at Indiana-Northwest: Alverno travels down to Gary and picks up a non-conference win.
Quote from: thrunt01 on December 10, 2012, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on December 09, 2012, 05:20:40 PM
I think there's a lot more teams that are worse this year than they were last year, as opposed to better. I can only name two teams, Maranatha and Alverno, that I think are better than they were last year. Everyone else is either the same or worse, including WLC. WLC should roll through the regular season.
Can't disagree with you there. The league was pretty darn strong last season, especially at the top.
I'd add Aurora to my list. They are better than last year, mostly because they couldn't be worse than 2-23. I think those three are it.
Indiana Northwest 64
Alverno 48
Ouch......
Edgewood 71
Elmhurst 65
This Weekend's Picks
12/14
Wheaton at Rockford: This will get ugly quickly for the Regents...
12/15
Concordia Chicago at Maranatha: Crusaders continue their nice run.
Concordia Wisconsin at Lakeland: Muskies get payback in a low scoring game.
Aurora at Carthage: Carthage has no problem with the Spartans here.
UW-Stout at Marian: Could be an interesting game.
Alverno at Finlandia: Inferno bounce back after getting rolled in Gary a few days ago.
Beneditctine at Wheaton: Benedictine doesn't have the horses to hang with Wheaton.
Dominican at North Central: Could be as ugly as North Central's blowout win against MSOE.
12/16
Alverno at Northland: UMAC looks very down this year.
Captain Joe, I agree with both of your 12/15 in-conference picks.
12/15 in-NAthCon finals:
CUW 60
Lakeland 36
(Lakeland had a cold-shooting day from the floor and CUW had a 42-31 rebounding advantage).
Maranatha 61
CUC 54
Both North leaders get a bit more breathing room.
Yesterday's Out of Conference Results
Carthage 57
Aurora 45
UW-Stout 71
Marian 64
North Central (IL) 110
Dominican 68
Alverno 67
Finlandia 55
Wheaton (IL) 65
Benedictine 39
12/18 In-Conference docket:
CUC/WLC: Warriors close out NAthCon's 2012 half of slate by getting another win at home.
Halftime: WLC 36 CUC 22
WLC is holding CUC to 25.9% shooting. Krissy Day is back in the lineup (albeit on the bench).
Final: WLC 67, CUC 42
Here are the standings after yesterday's games.
North
1. Maranatha 6-1 (4-1)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 6-4 (5-2)
3. Alverno 5-5 (3-2)
4. Edgewood 4-7 (3-2)
5. Lakeland 4-8 (4-3)
6. Marian 3-6 (2-3)
7. MSOE 0-8 (0-5)
South
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 8-1 (4-0)
2. Benedictine 5-6 (3-1)
3. Aurora 4-6 (2-3)
4. Concordia Chicago 2-7 (2-3)
5. Rockford 1-9 (1-4)
6. Dominican 0-10 (0-4)
Thoughts
So far it has been a rough year (with the exception of WLC and Maranatha to a degree) for NAC teams in their out of conference games. So far NAC teams are a combined 15-45 (.250) out of conference. It could be a result of the talent dropoff from last year to this year in the conference among other factors.
As stated before once conference play gets underway in January, the race for the NAC North is going to be something to watch for. Not entirely sure if Maranatha has the staying power to continue leading the North but I think it could be a three team race to decide that division.
WLC has shown that they are the dominant force in the South this season. The big race could be who will finish behind them. Benedictine recently has shown that they are currently the number two in the south although Aurora and Concordia Chicago are not that far behind.
My mid-season predictions for how the conference stands after the dust settles....
North
1. Concordia Wisconsin
2. Maranatha
3. Lakeland
4. Alverno
5. Edgewood
6. Marian
7. MSOE
South
1. Wisconsin Lutheran
2. Benedictine
3. Concordia Chicago
4. Aurora
5. Rockford
6. Dominican
12/27-12/30 Picks
12/27
MSOE vs UW-Stevens Point (at Wisconsin Dells): Over by halftime....
12/28
Illinois Wesleyan vs Concordia Chicago (at Waverly, IA): This one as well will be done by half even though IWU may appear to be a tad down this year.
MSOE vs UW-La Crosse (at Wisconsin Dells): MSOE's long season continues
Trinity Christian at Alverno: Inferno should be able to handle this one right?
Aurora at Dubuque: Not sure how the Spartans will be able to match up against Dubuque. Going with the home team here.
Chapman vs Marian (at Redlands): Chapman should be able to handle Marian here.
12/29
Rockford vs Spalding (at Greencastle, IN): Could go either way???
Dominican at Salem State: Stars again still hunt for their first win.
Concordia Wisconsin vs Calvin (at Colorado Springs, CO): Calvin looks strong again this season.
Benedictine at Franklin: Franklin handles the Eagles....
Williams vs Wisconsin Lutheran (at Whittier, CA): Great test for the Warriors to see where they stack up against a traditional power such as Williams.
Edgewood at UW-Stevens Point: Pointers have no trouble against Edgewood.
Marian vs Manchester (at Redlands): Could go either way.
12/30
Dominican vs Southern Maine (at Salem State): 16th ranked Huskies don't have trouble with DU.
UW-Superior at Alverno: Hornets continue their surprising start to the season.
Concordia Wisconsin at Colorado College: Just a hunch...
Wisconsin Lutheran at Whitter: Warriors earn a split in their western roadtrip.
Benedictine/Franklin just underway as I post:
(Found out Rockford beat Spalding 66-62)
Half: Franklin 27, Benedictine 16
Final: Franklin 54, Benedictine 45 (iL Eagles made a bit of a run in the second half, had it down to single-digits but were forced to foul late and Franklin hit their FTs to seal this) Franklin had a 51-32 edge on the glass.
1/2-5/13 NAthCon in-conference docket:
1/2: Marian at Edgewood; Going with the Sabers on the road in a tight one-moreso if they can pile up the fast-break poiints on the Eagles like Trine did.
1/3: CUC at Alverno: Going with the Inferno (been in a bit of a slump, this is the game they get well in a tight one),
1/5: WLC/Maranatha: Warriors eke out a win--could go either way if the Crusader crowd isn't taken out of the game early. Dillon and Peotter have a tendency to collect steals by the gross.
Benedictine/CUW: CUW in a close one.
Rockford/Marian: Sabers are more of a 3 point threat, figuring on another home win for them here.
Dominican/Lakeland: Lakeland
CUC/Edgewood: Edgewood in another close one
Aurora/Alverno: Inferno take this one at home.
My guesses:
1/2
Finlandia at Lakeland: Muskies win handily over a struggling Finlandia squad.
Rockford at Knox: Prairie Fire should have little trouble against the Regents.
Marian at Edgewood: Have to take the Eagles at home. Marian could make this a game though.
1/3
Alma at Lakeland: Couple of similar teams....Giving Lakeland the slight edge here.
Kuyper at Maranatha: Kinda wish to see how Maranatha plays against non-NCCAA teams. Maranatha takes it.
Concordia Chicago at Alverno: Alverno continues their "Win one, lose one" type of season.
1/5
MSOE at Finlandia: First win for the Raiders? Maybe....
Wisconsin Lutheran at Maranatha: Warriors have been more battle tested than the Crusaders. Maranatha's bigs can give WLC some fits but WLC uses their strong D to keep them in check.
Benedictine at Concordia Wisconsin: Benedictine is hot winning five of their last seven games. However CUW hangs on for the win here.
Rockford at Marian: Sabres bounce back with a nice win over the Regents.
Dominican at Lakeland: Over by half...
Concordia Chicago at Edgewood: Eagles get a sound win over the Cougars.
Aurora at Alverno: Gotta give props to the Head Coach at Aurora...She has turned that program around after a bad season last year. They could easily win this one here, but I have to give it to Alverno in a tight game.
Lots of North v South games Saturday.
Lakeland up big over Finlandia 42-17 just a few minutes before halftime.
Marian/Edgewood on deck:
Half: Edgewood 31, Marian 28
Final: Edgewood 64, Marian 63 (Eagles' Hill hit a 3-pointer with approx. 50 seconds left and Marian failed to convert on the last 2 possessions in the game-- Sabers' Huray had 27 pts--Marian led for a few minutes in the second half.)
Other Non-Conference Finals
Lakeland 92
Finlandia 61
Rockford 77
Knox 66
Maranatha 46, Kuyper 20 Half
CUC/Alverno up shortly:
Half: CUC and Alverno tied at 33
Alverno wins 67-63 over Concordia Chicago.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 03, 2013, 09:44:22 PM
Alverno wins 67-63 over Concordia Chicago.
Both teams hit a lot of 3s tonight (Alverno hit 9, the Cougars 8) If Ricketts doesn't get called for a charge on the potential game-tying possession, it could have been a different result.
NAC non-conference scores
Lakeland 63
Alma 56
Lakeland stretched their lead out to 16 points (40-24) at one point in the second half, but Alma managed to get the lead down to four points (52-48) before Lakeland put the game on ice. Muskies shot 50% (9-18) from three.
Maranatha 87
Kuyper 35
Crusaders held Kuyper to 15% shooting on their way to a big win. Maranatha shot 52% for the game but was 2/14 from three point land.
Finlandia leads MSOE 29-28 at halftime.
Benedictine/CUW up shortly:
Half: CUW 30, Benedictine 19
Wisconsin Lutheran 45
Maranatha 34
Half
Rockford 31
Marian 28
Half
Lakeland 39
Marian 18
Half
Edgewood 30
Concordia Chicago 28
Half
Finlandia 60
MSOE 52
Final
Looks like that Dominican vs MSOE matchup could potentially decide who avoids a winless season this year.
WLC coming out swinging in the second half going on a 11-1 run to extend the Warriors lead to 56-35.
Rockford 51
Marian 41
9:33 left
Lakeland 55
Dominican 24
12:39 2nd
CUW 69, Benedictine 53 Final:
(Falcons went on a 10-0 scoring run late in first half, and, Benedictine got no closer than 6 points after that.)
Wisconsin Lutheran 86
Maranatha 57
Final
Warriors started the second half on a 19-3 run and never allowed the Crusaders to get within 17 points for the rest of the game.
Lakeland 74
Dominican 50
Final
Marian 72
Rockford 64
Final
Edgewood 73
Concordia Chicago 64
Final
Last but not least
Alverno 52
Aurora 51
Final
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 05, 2013, 03:51:23 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 45
Maranatha 34
Half
Rockford 31
Marian 28
Half
Lakeland 39
Marian 18
Half
Edgewood 30
Concordia Chicago 28
Half
Finlandia 60
MSOE 52
Final
Looks like that Dominican vs MSOE matchup could potentially decide who avoids a winless season this year.
Both coaches have to gear their team up for that one to have spirits up going forward. The loser will probably just be waiting for the season to end.
1/8/13 guesses:
Marian at Alverno; This could go either way-- Sabers get a road win (A How much does the Inferno have left in the tank? B. That squad has to stay out of foul trouble. Does Marian spring Huray like against Edgewood, or go for the balance they had against Rockford?) Inferno can take this if they control the boards and get a lot of front-line points.
WLC at Rockford: Warriors should take this one.
Aurora at CUC; Going with the Cougars at home in a tight one.
Edgewood at Lakeland: Eagle squad has had some freshmen contributing off the bench more of late. Muskies take another close one at home.
Dominican at Benedictine: IL Eagles bounce back and get a win here.
I'll see
Alverno over Marian: I agree this could go either way...
Wisconsin Lutheran at Rockford: WLC wins big again to make it ten straight conference wins.
Aurora over Concordia Chicago: Agree here as well...I think Aurora gets the very slight edge here.
Edgewood at Lakeland: Muskies win here. They usually make some sort of run during the season.
Dominican at Benedicitine: Eagles win handily....
Edgewood/Lakeland just underway:
Lakeland 30, Edgewood 25 Half
Wisconsin Lutheran 74
Rockford 66
Final
Sloppy win for the Warriors
7/18 free throw shooting for the Warriors compared to 28/34 for the Regents...That is the only thing that kept Rockford close in this game.
Final: Edgewood 66, Lakeland 64
(Tobin hit 2 FTs with 7 seconds left, Muskies' Hendricks missed a 3-pointer at the end of this one.)
Other finals:
CUC 74, Aurora 56 (Cougars stop a 6-game losing streak)
Alverno 60, Marian 52 (Sabers lose despite hitting 9 3s for the game)
Benedictine 64, Dominican 58
With tonight's results, CUW, Alverno and Edgewood are all tied at the top of the North with 6-2 records, with Maranatha and Lakeland still in close distance.
Edgewood plays some very strong defense. That will serve them well through out the season if they can keep it up.
Quote from: thrunt01 on January 09, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
Edgewood plays some very strong defense. That will serve them well through out the season if they can keep it up.
I agree on that. When the Eagles played Marian at home the Sabers were repeatedly having to launch several desparation shots to avoid shot-clock violations in the first half because of that defense.
1/10/13:
Alverno/MSOE: Alverno
Dominican/CUC: Cougars eke out another one.
Maranatha/Edgewood: Eagles (depends on how many points Crusaders get off turnovers)
CUW/Marian: Falcons
Edgewood leads Maranatha 7-5 halfway through the first.
Edgewood 24
Maranatha 21
Half
Edgewood shot 28% in the first half while Maranatha shot 27%.
Other Nath-Con Scores
Dominican 25
Concordia Chicago 22
Half
Alverno 28
MSOE 24
Half
Concordia Wisconsin 31
Marian 20
19:50 in the 2nd
Just like that Dominican went from three up at half to being 8 down as the CUC went on a 16-5 run to start the second half.
Dominican still hanging around down six thanks to CUC not hitting any of their three point attempts (0/8).
EDIT: Dominican retakes the lead 46-42 as the Stars went on a 16-2 run.
Edgewood leads Maranatha 42-38 with 11:33 left.
Concordia Chicago 60
Dominican 55
Final
Concordia Wisconsin 61
Marian 39
Final
Edgewood 62
Maranatha 52
Final
Alverno 50
MSOE 43
About four or so minutes left in that one.
1/12 Picks
Lakeland at Concordia Chicago: Taking the Muskies on the road. Muskies can't really afford a slip up if the race in the North division continues to be tight as it is.
Edgewood at Benedictine: Watched most of the Eagles game against Maranatha last night and I was impressed with their defense and their clutch shots whenever the Crusaders got close. I'll take Edgewood in a close one at home.
Concordia Wisconsin at Aurora: I take the Falcons on the road here.
Maranatha at Dominican: Dominican has showed some signs of life in the last few games but the Crusaders bounce back with a win.
MSOE at Rockford: MSOE has also showed some signs of life recently too. However I'll take the Regents in a close one.
Marian at Wisconsin Lutheran: Warriors rebound from that sloppy win against Rockford Tuesday night with a big win at the REX.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 11, 2013, 02:15:14 PM
1/12 Picks
Lakeland at Concordia Chicago: Taking the Muskies on the road. Muskies can't really afford a slip up if the race in the North division continues to be tight as it is.
Edgewood at Benedictine: Watched most of the Eagles game against Maranatha last night and I was impressed with their defense and their clutch shots whenever the Crusaders got close. I'll take Edgewood in a close one at home.
Concordia Wisconsin at Aurora: I take the Falcons on the road here.
Maranatha at Dominican: Dominican has showed some signs of life in the last few games but the Crusaders bounce back with a win.
MSOE at Rockford: MSOE has also showed some signs of life recently too. However I'll take the Regents in a close one.
Marian at Wisconsin Lutheran: Warriors rebound from that sloppy win against Rockford Tuesday night with a big win at the REX.
My guesses:
Same except I'm going to go with MSOE over Rockford (prior to Dominican, this is the Raiders' best chance to get off the in-conference schneid).
Edgewood/Benedictine up shortly:
Edgewood 28, Benedictine 27 Half
Final: Edgewood 63, Benedictine 46 (IL Eagles had a cold-shooting game here)
Wisconsin Lutheran 60
Marian 50
Warriors shot 39% (5/22 from three) while Marian shot 40% (10/23 from Three). It seemed that every time WLC was threatening to pull away, Marian hits a three to keep the game under ten.
Concordia Wisconsin 80
Aurora 60
Maranatha 70
Dominican 55
Rockford 56
MSOE 47
Shocker of the day....
Concordia Chicago 86
Lakeland 67
I almost picked the CUC game as an 'upset special". (Box score indicates Genke, Koehler & Rickett all had higher than ususal scoring --31, 19, and 20 pts respectively-- CUC -- 40 pts in the paint for the game) On top of that, 3 of the next 4 Muskie games are on the road (Alverno, Maranatha and WLC, home game vs. Rockford). The danger here would be if Lakeland goes into a long slump.
1/14: MSOE/Maranatha: Crusaders get another home win.
1/15: Lakeland/Alverno: Toss-up. (X-factor: All of Alverno's starters have been logging 30 min. or more playing time per in-conference game thus far. That won't hurt them much for this game-they didn't have to play yesterday)
Pick: Lakeland--mainly because the Muskies need this one more.
1/16: Dominican/WLC: Warriors
CUC/Rockford: CUC in a close one.
Edgewood/CUW: Edgewood in another one that could go either way.
Benedictine/Aurora: IL Eagles
Marian/MSOE: Marian
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 13, 2013, 09:26:20 AM
I almost picked the CUC game as an 'upset special". (Box score indicates Genke, Koehler & Rickett all had higher than ususal scoring --31, 19, and 20 pts respectively-- CUC -- 40 pts in the paint for the game) On top of that, 3 of the next 4 Muskie games are on the road (Alverno, Maranatha and WLC, home game vs. Rockford). The danger here would be if Lakeland goes into a long slump.
Totally agree there. Especially with the North being as tight as it is Lakeland can't afford to go into a slump. If they do, they could very much be out of the race for the final spot in the North after that stretch.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 13, 2013, 09:46:50 AM
1/14: MSOE/Maranatha: Crusaders get another home win.
1/15: Lakeland/Alverno: Toss-up. (X-factor: All of Alverno's starters have been logging 30 min. or more playing time per in-conference game thus far. That won't hurt them much for this game-they didn't have to play yesterday)
Pick: Lakeland--mainly because the Muskies need this one more.
1/16: Dominican/WLC: Warriors
CUC/Rockford: CUC in a close one.
Edgewood/CUW: Edgewood in another one that could go either way.
Benedictine/Aurora: IL Eagles
Marian/MSOE: Marian
MSOE at Maranatha: Maranatha gets a little closer to the leaders in the North.
Lakeland at Alverno: I concur that Lakeland needs a win here to right the ship but I think Alverno gets the nod here especially after what Concordia Chicago did to the Muskies in River Forest Saturday.
Dominican at WLC: Maybe this is the game where the Warriors can get those kinks from the last few games taken care of.
Concordia Chicago at Rockford: Cougars are getting into a groove lately especially after Saturday's blowout win against Lakeland.
Edgewood at Concordia Wisconsin: I agree this one can go either way, but the Falcons get the home nod here.
Benedictine at Aurora: Benedictine is establishing itself as the #2 team in the south.
Marian at MSOE: Marian hung tough with the Warriors Saturday on the strength of 10/23 from three point land but could not get the edge to pull the upset. They rebound here.
Maranatha 51
MSOE 50
Final
Almost the big difference here: Free Throws both attempted and made
MSOE 19/23
Maranatha 6/12
Both teams shot poorly (MSOE 26% Maranatha 32%)
Boy if MSOE could have pulled that off, that would have been huge.
My mid week winners:
LC
WLC
CUC
EC
BenU
Marian
Alverno 48, Lakeland 42 Final
(PBP account indicates Inferno had a 14-2 scoring run in the 2nd half to get breathing room, and held on. Gorman had another big scoring night before fouling out. Looking like a real dogfight between the top 3 in the North.)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 16, 2013, 08:32:11 AM
Alverno 48, Lakeland 42 Final
(PBP account indicates Inferno had a 14-2 scoring run in the 2nd half to get breathing room, and held on. Gorman had another big scoring night before fouling out. Looking like a real dogfight between the top 3 in the North.)
LC went 20 minutes without a field goal.
Quote from: thrunt01 on January 16, 2013, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 16, 2013, 08:32:11 AM
Alverno 48, Lakeland 42 Final
(PBP account indicates Inferno had a 14-2 scoring run in the 2nd half to get breathing room, and held on. Gorman had another big scoring night before fouling out. Looking like a real dogfight between the top 3 in the North.)
LC went 20 minutes without a field goal.
Well, not quite. Becky Mayo had a jumper at 14:08 of the second half, but...
They went from 4:05 of the first half to 14:08 of the second half, so that's a drought of 9:57 without a field goal.
They went from 14:08 of the second half to 4:36, so that's a drought of 9:28 without a field goal.
So, in all they went from 4:05 of the first half to 4:36 of the second half, a span of 19:39 and only scored one field goal.
Quote from: Just Bill on January 16, 2013, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on January 16, 2013, 12:14:54 PM
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Alverno 48, Lakeland 42 Final
(PBP account indicates Inferno had a 14-2 scoring run in the 2nd half to get breathing room, and held on. Gorman had another big scoring night before fouling out. Looking like a real dogfight between the top 3 in the North.)
LC went 20 minutes without a field goal.
Well, not quite. Becky Mayo had a jumper at 14:08 of the second half, but...
They went from 4:05 of the first half to 14:08 of the second half, so that's a drought of 9:57 without a field goal.
They went from 14:08 of the second half to 4:36, so that's a drought of 9:28 without a field goal.
So, in all they went from 4:05 of the first half to 4:36 of the second half, a span of 19:39 and only scored one field goal.
Ok that's what it was. Either way offense was an issue.
Yeah, that's not going to win many games.
Wisconsin Lutheran 34
Dominican 16
4:53 left to half.
Edgewood 30, CUW 26 Half
Halftime Scores
Concordia Chicago 30
Rockford 22
Wisconsin Lutheran 45
Dominican 23
Benedictine 38
Aurora 30
Final: CUW 63, Edgewood 59 (Walker scored more than 20 points, but Falcons' Zietlow scored all but 2 of her points in the second half-- and hit several clutch FTs down the stretch)
One for the "mild upset" dept.
MSOE 55 Marian 53 (Raiders had a 42-26 rebounding edge-)
1/19 Matchups
Dominican at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW has no trouble at home.
Aurora at Marian: Spartans are a little more consistent than the Sabres right now.
Benedictine at MSOE: Congrats to the Raiders on win #1 of the season. Benedictine denies them a second win here.
Rockford at Lakeland: Lakeland should win this but.....
Wisconsin Lutheran at Edgewood: This very well could be a trap game for the Warriors but I'll take them at the Edgedome.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 18, 2013, 01:29:48 AM
1/19 Matchups
Dominican at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW has no trouble at home.
Aurora at Marian: Spartans are a little more consistent than the Sabres right now.
Benedictine at MSOE: Congrats to the Raiders on win #1 of the season. Benedictine denies them a second win here.
Rockford at Lakeland: Lakeland should win this but.....
Wisconsin Lutheran at Edgewood: This very well could be a trap game for the Warriors but I'll take them at the Edgedome.
Pretty much sums it up perfectly
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 18, 2013, 01:29:48 AM
1/19 Matchups
Dominican at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW has no trouble at home.
Aurora at Marian: Spartans are a little more consistent than the Sabres right now.
Benedictine at MSOE: Congrats to the Raiders on win #1 of the season. Benedictine denies them a second win here.
Rockford at Lakeland: Lakeland should win this but.....
Wisconsin Lutheran at Edgewood: This very well could be a trap game for the Warriors but I'll take them at the Edgedome.
I'll go with:
CUW
Aurora
Benedictine
Lakeland (I don't think Muskies' shooting woes will continue. Rockford can take this if Regents can run on the Muskies and get points off turnovers)
Edgewood (Putting my head above my heart. Believe it or not, this squad has more depth than WLC- going 12 or 13 deep - this figures to be a tight one)
Quote from: thrunt01 on January 18, 2013, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 18, 2013, 01:29:48 AM
1/19 Matchups
Dominican at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW has no trouble at home.
Aurora at Marian: Spartans are a little more consistent than the Sabres right now.
Benedictine at MSOE: Congrats to the Raiders on win #1 of the season. Benedictine denies them a second win here.
Rockford at Lakeland: Lakeland should win this but.....
Wisconsin Lutheran at Edgewood: This very well could be a trap game for the Warriors but I'll take them at the Edgedome.
Pretty much sums it up perfectly
Haven't seen Rockford play this year but if they have athleticism then they will probably give LC some fits.
Excited to see the WLC/EC game, for sure the game of the day
Benedictine/MSOE about to get underway:
Half: Benedictine 29, MSOE 23
Final: Benedictine 54, MSOE 45 (Raiders jumped out to an early 16-7 lead before IL Eagles started asserting themselves on the glass. In the second half, they were able to get a boatload of steals and tire MSOE out)
One other final of note: Rockford knocks off Lakeland 70-61
Now to see if Edgewood gave them some help--
Final: WLC 58, Edgewood 50 (much closer than that, however, Warriors hit their FTs late to get thru this one).
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 19, 2013, 04:42:25 PM
Final: Benedictine 54, MSOE 45 (Raiders jumped out to an early 16-7 lead before IL Eagles started asserting themselves on the glass. In the second half, they were able to get a boatload of steals and tire MSOE out)
One other final of note: Rockford knocks off Lakeland 70-61
Now to see if Edgewood gave them some help--
Final: WLC 58, Edgewood 50 (much closer than that, however, Warriors hit their FTs late to get thru this one).
I haven't had much time to look at the box score for the WLC/Edgewood game (Had to work Jazz fest for school and the power going out for several hours last night), but it seems that WLC had some turnover issues in that game as well. Shavon Dillion had a big game in that one as well.
1/22/13 docket:
Lakeland/Maranatha: Crusaders in a tight one.
Edgewood/Alverno: IL Eagles take out their frustration on the Inferno after seeing potential victory slip away yesterday.
MSOE/CUW: CUW
Benedicitne/Dominican: Benedictiine (unless Dominican has an incredibly hot day shooting from outside.)
CUC/Aurora: CUC
Rockford/WLC Warriors (need to take better care of the ball than they did vs. Edgewood).
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 20, 2013, 02:54:51 PM
1/22/13 docket:
Lakeland/Maranatha: Crusaders in a tight one.
Edgewood/Alverno: IL Eagles take out their frustration on the Inferno after seeing potential victory slip away yesterday.
MSOE/CUW: CUW
Benedicitne/Dominican: Benedictiine (unless Dominican has an incredibly hot day shooting from outside.)
CUC/Aurora: CUC
Rockford/WLC Warriors (need to take better care of the ball than they did vs. Edgewood).
Lets see...
Chicago at Marian: Both teams have had disappointing seasons to this point. I have to go with the Maroons on this one.
Lakeland at Maranatha: Unless the Muskies make a quick turnaround very soon they will be on the outside looking in when it comes conference tournament time. I'll agree this will be a close game as well.
MSOE at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW keeps winning and continues to lead the North.
Edgewood at Alverno: Edgewood saw a potential upset win evaporate late against WLC. Things may not get much easier for them as they take on a defensive minded Alverno squad. Taking the Inferno in a tight one.
Benedictine at Dominican: Benedictine gets to .500 on the season against a Stars team that struggles to play defense.
Concordia Chicago at Aurora: Concordia Chicago makes it five straight wins.
Rockford at Wisconsin Lutheran: Warriors manage to escape Madison with a win after struggling with turnovers during the game. They have to do better at the charity stripe this time around unlike when these two teams met in Rockford a few weeks ago. I'll take the Warriors at home here.
Wisconsin Lutheran has picked up a single vote in the recent Women's top 25 poll.
Update:
Lakeland 27, Maranatha 25 Half (Crusaders bounced back some after being down as many as 9 in first half).
Final: Lakeland 61, Maranatha 54 (A 20-14 Muskie scoring run was the difference here. they had a field day on the 3 pt shooting).
(Joining CUC/Aurora in progress-Spartans leading early).
Half: CUC 32, Aurora 29
Wisconsin Lutheran 33
Rockford 25
Half
Regents are out rebounding WLC 21-18
Chicago 36
Marian 29
Start of the 2nd
Alverno 26
Edgewood 24
Half
MSOE 25
Concordia Wisconsin 22
Half
Benedictine 33
Dominican 19
Half
Would be quite an upset if MSOE holds on on the road.
Final: CUC 69, Aurora 54
(Cougars went on an 18-4 scoring run to start the 2nd half, Spartans cut it below 10 at one point but coulden't get
over the hump)
CUC had a 36-25 rebounding edge and outshot Aurora 49% - 35% from the floor for the game.
Wisconsin Lutheran 78
Rockford 39
Final
Warriors clamped down defensively in the second half.
Chicago 77
Marian 62
Final
Concordia Wisconsin 64
MSOE 46
Final
Benedictine 70
Dominican 50
Final
Lakeland stays alive in the North, CUC's hot run has turned the South into a 3-team race, should WLC slip. (I don't expect either Rockford or Aurora to get hot)
I agree the South race is going to be something to watch. I don't think Benedictine or Concordia Chicago will be able to catch WLC but who gets second will be a fun race to watch.
WLC can play defense even when they are not having their best day on the offensively. Dillion turned it on in the second half after she picked up a Technical foul (not sure for what) but after that she scored 14 points of her 22 points.
That win last night by Wisconsin Lutheran clinched them a spot in the conference tournament.
If my math is correct here...
Concordia Wisconsin clinches a spot with a win or a Lakeland loss.
1/24-1/26 Matchups
1/24
Alverno at Maranatha: Alverno takes that next step to clinching their spot in the conference tournament.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Benedictine: Wisconsin Lutheran puts some more distance between them and Benedictine.
1/25
Concordia Wisconsin vs Concordia (MI): Don't think that the Falcons match up that well against the tenth ranked Cardinals.
Concordia Chicago vs Concordia (NE): A bigger mismatch awaits the Cougars against the #2 in the NAIA D2 Basketball poll.
1/26
MSOE at Aurora: I think Aurora will win, but I won't be surprised if MSOE walks away with a win here with their recent play.
Edgewood at Dominican: Edgewood stops their slide with a big win.
Maranatha at Rockford: Rockford could give Maranatha fits with their athleticism, but I think the Crusaders find a way.
Alverno at Benedictine: Should be a good game to watch...Alverno in a close one.
Lakeland at Wisconsin Lutheran: Even though Lakeland is a bit down, they are still a dangerous team that could be a big spoiler for other conference teams. I still have nightmares of last year's second half at the REX when Lakeland went roughshod on the Warriors to snap WLC's 23 game conference winning streak. I think that WLC will win this game but they can't afford to have a bad game here.
1/24:
Inferno/Crusaders: I, too, will go with Alverno (Maranatha needs to shoot beter from beyond the arc)
Warriors/IL Eagles: Benedictine's got depth similar to that of Edgewood. Going with WLC in a tight one.
1/26:
Aurora/MSOE: Spartans in a tight one.
Edgewood/Dominican: Edgewood
Maranatha/Rockford: Rockford in an upset.
Alverno/Benedictine: Benedictine (this is another one that can go either way).
Lakeland/WLC: Lakeland hit a boatload of 3's in the win over Maranatha. Methinks WLC's D will make the difference here.
Wisconsin Lutheran beats Benedictine 70-62
Maranatha 42
Alverno 28
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 24, 2013, 11:34:25 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran beats Benedictine 70-62
Maranatha 42
Alverno 28
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
Halftime score had Inferno leading
12-9 Shooting pct. for entire game: Alverno 20%, Maranatha 31% (Crusaders did shoot 52% from floor in 2nd half).
(If memory serves correctly, when Edgewood played MBBC on the road last year, halftime score was just about as low on that one, too).
The Concordia Invitational Tournament kicked off today and both Nath-Con teams were hammered again.
Concordia Ann Arbor 72
Concordia Wisconsin 54
Concordia Nebraska 90
Concordia Chicago 48
That's OK because CUW owns CU-Ann Arbor.
No, I mean they literally own them...
http://www.lcms.org/page.aspx?pid=1455
Quote from: Just Bill on January 26, 2013, 12:43:22 PM
That's OK because CUW owns CU-Ann Arbor.
No, I mean they literally own them...
http://www.lcms.org/page.aspx?pid=1455
Yet the smaller school is owning them on still on the hardwood. ::)
Checking in on a few games today...
Wisconsin Lutheran leads Lakeland 14-6 with about 12:30 left in the half
Maranatha leads Rockford 10-7 with 12:00 left in the first half as well
Aurora leads MSOE 16-15 with 10:39 left in the first half
Edgewood leads Dominican 17-11 with 9:52 left in the first half
Concordia Wisconsin beat Concordia Chicago 72-51 in the consolation game of the Concordia Invitational Tournament.
Wisconsin Lutheran 33
Lakeland 22
Halftime
Warriors have led the entire way so far behind 50% shooting (though 1/6 at the line) while holding Lakeland to 27% shooting.
Maranatha 31
Rockford 16
Halftime
Edgewood 35
Dominican 24
Halftime
Aurora 31
MSOE 24
Halftime
Wisconsin Lutheran 69
Lakeland 58
Final
Muskies wouldn't go away quietly but WLC prevented them from getting any closer than eight points.
Maranatha 47
Rockford 45
Maranatha survived a cold shooting second half to escape with a narrow victory.
Edgewood 75
Dominican 58
Final
Edgewood forced 22 Dominican turnovers and held the Stars to 3/21 shooting from three point land.
Aurora 59
MSOE 44
Final
Spartans held MSOE to 26% shooting for the game.
With Lakeland losing today, Concordia Wisconsin clinches a spot in the conference tournament.
Also, a bit late but MSOE is eliminated from earning a conference tournament bid.
I'm eating crow--thought the Crusaders would lose their last 2 games I guessed on.
Lakeland needs to win out in conference and get help. (Muskies have ome more shot at Edgewood yet. A win there would be a big help.) (Marian, Aurora and MSOE are also on their docket yet.)
Final just in: Benedictine 52, Alverno 45
(Caught the last 8 1/2 minutes of this one IL Eagles made a late scoring run-hitting several FTs to seal this one in the last 1 1/2 minutes).
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 26, 2013, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on January 26, 2013, 12:43:22 PM
That's OK because CUW owns CU-Ann Arbor.
No, I mean they literally own them...
http://www.lcms.org/page.aspx?pid=1455
Yet the smaller school is owning them on still on the hardwood. ::)
NAIA school, Scholarship money, even if just a little is a big difference maker. Take a look at Cardinal Stritch (Milwaukee) for example, they can win out in a lot of recruiting battles with D3 teams just by being able to offer a few thousand dollars a year towards education.
2/2/13 guesses:
Rockford @ CUW: CUW
CUC @ Marian: CUC's hot run continues--barely. This can go either way if Marian is hitting on all cylinders.
Dominican @ MSOE: MSOE in a tight one.
Aurora @ Lakeland: Lakeland
Benedictine @ MBBC: IL Eagles (more rested up, Crusaders will be going on only 2 days rest).
WLC/Alverno: Warrior front line needs to stay strong-no idea how Alverno's gonna come out of the gate-- WLC gets another win in a close one on the road.
1/28
Augustana at Aurora: Vikings take this one handily over Aurora.
1/29
Concordia Wisconsin at Marian: Falcons take care of business here on the road.
1/30
Rockford at Benedictine: Eagles keep quietly moving along and win this game here.
MSOE at Edgewood: Edgewood gets a big win at home.
Marian at Lakeland: Muskies need a win and they get it at home.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Concordia Chicago: Warriors contain Genke and come away with another conference win.
Aurora at Dominican: Could be an interesting game if Dominican gives it their all. Still have to go with the Spartans.
1/31
Maranatha at Moody Bible: Crusaders win running away here.
2/2
Rockford at CUW: Concordia Wisconsin gets one step closer to clinching the North division crown.
CUC at Marian: Marian could play spoiler but CUC takes it on the road.
Dominican at MSOE: Mind says MSOE but my heart says Dominican. Have to go with the Stars.
Aurora at Lakeland: Muskies need a win to keep themselves in the race for a spot in the conference tournament.
Benedictine at Maranatha: Maranatha hasn't been shooting all that great but have found ways to win. However BU has been upping their game recently so I have to go with the Eagles.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Alverno: I want to see a few things from WLC. One is where they are in the "Receiving Votes" Column this week when the poll comes out and two if they can cut down on turnovers against a defensive minded Inferno team. Warriors win on the road here.
Wisconsin Lutheran is up to seven votes in the newly released top 25 rankings.
CUW/Maranatha up shortly in a key battle in the NAthCon North.
Half: CUW 32, Maranatha 23
Approx 6 1/2 min left 2nd half
CUW 60, Maranatha 39 (Barring an incredible rally, with this result, Edgewood will move back into third place in the North).
EC vs MSOE postponed for tonight.
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/news/2013/1/30/WBB_0130132109.aspx
LC v. Marian postponed till tomorrow night as well.
Joining Rockford/Benedictine in progress -tied at 9 approx midway thru 1st half
My only updates of the night (I have to leave shortly for Tennis Practice)
Wisconsin Lutheran 26
Concordia Chicago 11
6:39 1st Half
Dominican 15
Aurora 12
4:39 1st Half
Benedictine up 25-22 on Rockford 6 seconds left in 1st half
Other 2 halftime scores:
Aurora 21, Dominican 17
WLC 34, Concordia-Chicago 19
Final: Benedictine 59, Rockford 58 (Regents had 2 opportunities in the last minute, but a traveling call with 37 secs left and good D by the Eagles on the Regents last trip down the floor were keys for this game--Eagles' Novak had a career high 26 pts.
Other finals:
WLC 79, Concordia-Chicago 37
Dominican got off the in-conference schneid, beating Aurora 70-64
(If my figuring is correct, with those results, WLC has clinched at least a tie for the South title.)
THIS JUST IN:
Per NAthCon standings, Benedictine has clinched a playoff spot.
Remaining schedule for South division in-contention squads:
CUC: at Marian, at Dominican, vs. MSOE. at BU
Aurora: at Lakeland, at Rockford, vs. MBBC, vs. WLC
Rockford: at CUW, vs. Aurora, vs. Edgewood, vs. Dominican
Should CUC and Rockford finish in a tie for the last playoff spot, the Cougars would get in, having swept the Regents head to head. CUC also swept Aurora head to head. Of the above squads, CUC figures to have the easiest schedule, (at least on paper.) Either Aurora or Rockford need to win out and get help -(impossible for both to win out.)
Yes WLC has clinched a at least a share of the South division title.
Concordia Wisconsin can clinch at least a share of the North division title with a win against Rockford this weekend. It will be a race to decide who gets the number one overall seed in the tournament.
Currently, WLC has a 1.5 game lead on CUW for the #1 overall seed. CUW needs WLC to lose once and beat them when they hook up at the REX for Winterfest on 2/9 if they want home court advantage in the conference tournament.
Also it seems Dominican still has a long shot to make the conference tournament, but they need to win out and Aurora and Rockford to lose their last remaining games.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 31, 2013, 09:25:50 AM
Currently, WLC has a 1.5 game lead on CUW for the #1 overall seed. CUW needs WLC to lose once and beat them when they hook up at the REX for Winterfest on 2/9 if they want home court advantage in the conference tournament.
Nope, that's not how it's going to work. Conference record won't matter. The #1 or #2 seed will be determined solely based on the result of their one head-to-head matchup. So assuming they each win their division, the winner of the WLC-CUW game will be the #1 seed for the tournament, even if WLC ultimately has a better record. Same thing goes for the #3/#4, the #5/#6 and the #7/#8.
Quote from: Just Bill on January 31, 2013, 09:49:16 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 31, 2013, 09:25:50 AM
Currently, WLC has a 1.5 game lead on CUW for the #1 overall seed. CUW needs WLC to lose once and beat them when they hook up at the REX for Winterfest on 2/9 if they want home court advantage in the conference tournament.
Nope, that's not how it's going to work. Conference record won't matter. The #1 or #2 seed will be determined solely based on the result of their one head-to-head matchup. So assuming they each win their division, the winner of the WLC-CUW game will be the #1 seed for the tournament, even if WLC ultimately has a better record. Same thing goes for the #3/#4, the #5/#6 and the #7/#8.
I thought last year seemed stupid when LC and CUW had to play each other in the first round based on the NAC challenge outcome (both being much stronger than their with counterparts). But this just seems as stupid as that theory, one team could clearly be better on the overall season, but if they have one bad game it could cost them a higher seeding. I hope next year when they combined the divisions a lot of these scenerios will be fixed
It will all work out next year, when there's no divisions and everyone plays the same number of conference games.
Essentially, the coaches couldn't come to an agreement about how to resolve seeding for the tournament, so they choose the simplest (if not the most logical) way.
Makes sense in terms of seeding, as long as they can come up with an efficient tie breaker system. Especially with a rotating schedule where not everyone will play everyone else in the conference twice, but rotate each year who thy play twice and who they play once. What happens if you get stuck playing WLC and CUW twice in one year and someone else who finished one game ahead of you in the standings played Rockford and Aurora twice instead, but finished ahead of you in the standings by one game even if you beat them head to head by 40 and are clearly the superior team? Still seems like a lot of potential uneven factors! Or I'm just thinking about this too in depth. Haha
I'm not certain, but I believe next year's schedule will be a full double round robin. Shouldn't be any issues like that.
Only thing I can think of that is a detriment to the double round robin games. is that it cuts down on the number of non-conference games each team gets (MIAC does the same double round-robin format and they have three out of conference games). Kind of makes gauging a team with 20 or so wins due to playing in a possibly a weak conference.
I agree that basing the seeding off of one game is ridiculous especially if one team is clearly better than the other and has an off night and loses and as a result is seeded lower than that team. (Was the NathC Challenge something to determine the seeding for the teams that made the tournament?)
It is nice to get rid of the Challenge game because on the women's side the last place team in the seven team division had to play a non NathC team (such as Mount Mary).
The purpose of the challenge game was partially to decide the seedings between the teams in the same position. They used the one regular season game, plus the Challenge game to determine who got the higher seed. The drawback was half the time the Challenge game didn't matter. If the team that won the first game also held the tiebreaker, there was nothing the other team could do. Plus it ate up a date on the schedule. Personally, I thought it was stupid.
The decrease in the non-conference games is an issue, but it's partially relieved with the deaparture of Maranatha next year. Men will play 20 conference games, and 5 non-conference games. Women will play 22 conference games and 3 non-conference games.
The lack of non-conference games would become a bigger issue if the NathCon was routinely putting multiple teams in Pool C consideration. Right now, that's not really happening. The big problem is that so much of the league has losing records, everyone's SOS is dragged down. Unfortunately playing fewer non-conference games might not help that problem, although with 22 NathCon games the records should normalize and there should be more teams near or above .500 than there is this year.
Marian vs. Lakeland on deck:
Halftine: Marian 30, Lakeland 28 (Sabers have hit a lot of 3s, Lakeland's Jandrin already has 12 pts.)
Final: Lakeland 73, Marian 61 (Lakeland's D forced several key turnovers on a couplle of Huray penetration attempts, and then the Muskies hit their FTs to seal this one, which was closer than the final score indicates.)
Marian now has to win out and hope both MBBC and Lakeland lose out, (Lakeland owns the tiebreaker on Marian).
NAthCon North contenders' remaining schedules:
Alverno: vs. WLC, vs. MSOE, at Marian, at Dominican, at CUW
Edgewood: at MBBC, vs. Lakeland, at Rockford, vs. MSOE
MBBC: vs. BU, vs. Edgewood, at MSOE, at Aurora, at Marian
Lakeland: vs. Aurora, at Edgewood, at MSOE
Should Lakeland and MBBC tie, the Muskies would get the advantage, having swept the Crusaders;
If Alverno and Edgewood tie, the Inferno get the higher seed, having swept the IL Eagles head to head
If MBBC and Alverno tie, the Crusaders get the advantage, having won both meetings.
Edgewood beat both Lakeland and MBBC earlier.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 31, 2013, 10:29:58 PM
If Alverno and Edgewood tie, the Inferno get the higher seed, having swept the IL Eagles head to head
Did they relocate Edgewood College? ;)
For the South it goes....
Concordia Chicago (7-6)
Aurora (4-9)
Rockford (3-10)
Dominican (1-12)
Remaining Schedules
CUC: at Marian, at Dominican, vs MSOE, at Benedictine
AU: at Lakeland, at Rockford, vs Maranatha, vs Wisconsin Lutheran
RC: at Concordia Wisconsin, vs Aurora, vs Edgewood, vs Dominican
DU: at MSOE, vs Concordia Chicago, vs Alverno, at Rockford
CUC needs one win to clinch a tournament spot.
AU has the toughest schedule of the four and could be on the outside looking in come conference tournament time.
Rockford could sneak their way in if they beat Aurora and Dominican.
Despite all their troubles, Dominican still has a shot (albeit a long one) to make the conference tournament. They need to win out and hope both Rockford and Aurora lose out (which is possible).
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 01, 2013, 11:11:07 AM
For the South it goes....
Concordia Chicago (7-6)
Aurora (4-9)
Rockford (3-10)
Dominican (1-12)
Remaining Schedules
CUC: at Marian, at Dominican, vs MSOE, at Benedictine
AU: at Lakeland, at Rockford, vs Maranatha, vs Wisconsin Lutheran
RC: at Concordia Wisconsin, vs Aurora, vs Edgewood, vs Dominican
DU: at MSOE, vs Concordia Chicago, vs Alverno, at Rockford
CUC needs one win to clinch a tournament spot.
AU has the toughest schedule of the four and could be on the outside looking in come conference tournament time.
Rockford could sneak their way in if they beat Aurora and Dominican.
Despite all their troubles, Dominican still has a shot (albeit a long one) to make the conference tournament. They need to win out and hope both Rockford and Aurora lose out (which is possible).
They play each other though. Someone has to win that game.
Quote from: thrunt01 on February 01, 2013, 12:52:57 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 01, 2013, 11:11:07 AM
For the South it goes....
Concordia Chicago (7-6)
Aurora (4-9)
Rockford (3-10)
Dominican (1-12)
Remaining Schedules
CUC: at Marian, at Dominican, vs MSOE, at Benedictine
AU: at Lakeland, at Rockford, vs Maranatha, vs Wisconsin Lutheran
RC: at Concordia Wisconsin, vs Aurora, vs Edgewood, vs Dominican
DU: at MSOE, vs Concordia Chicago, vs Alverno, at Rockford
CUC needs one win to clinch a tournament spot.
AU has the toughest schedule of the four and could be on the outside looking in come conference tournament time.
Rockford could sneak their way in if they beat Aurora and Dominican.
Despite all their troubles, Dominican still has a shot (albeit a long one) to make the conference tournament. They need to win out and hope both Rockford and Aurora lose out (which is possible).
They play each other though. Someone has to win that game.
In that case they need Rockford to win that game.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 31, 2013, 10:29:58 PM
NAthCon North contenders' remaining schedules:
Alverno: vs. WLC, vs. MSOE, at Marian, at Dominican, at CUW
Edgewood: at MBBC, vs. Lakeland, at Rockford, vs. MSOE
MBBC: vs. BU, vs. Edgewood, at MSOE, at Aurora, at Marian
Lakeland: vs. Aurora, at Edgewood, at MSOE
Should Lakeland and MBBC tie, the Muskies would get the advantage, having swept the Crusaders;
If Alverno and Edgewood tie, the Inferno get the higher seed, having swept the IL Eagles head to head
If MBBC and Alverno tie, the Crusaders get the advantage, having won both meetings.
Edgewood beat both Lakeland and MBBC earlier.
I believe LC would also have the tiebreaker with EC assuming they both finish 10-8 (the only possible record LC can have to tie EC) which means LC would have to win out the last 3 games, which in return would mean they beat EC along the way to even the season series. So then based on the 3rd or 4th tiebreak rule (cant remember how far down the line) LC would gain the final spot in the NAC Tourney for the North.
CUC/Marian up shortly:
Marian 36, CUC 33 1 second left 1st half.
(Stat of note: 38 free throws already attempted combined.)
CUC 57, Marian 53 Approx. 2 1/4 min. left 2nd half
Updates on other games:
CUW 53, Rockford 42 Final
Lakeland 65, Aurora 52 Final
(If my math is correct, Lakeland's win eliminates Marian, regardless of whether the Sabers stage a late rally or not. Best Marian can do is tie Lakeland, and the Muskies swept the Sabers head to head).
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 02, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
CUC 57, Marian 53 Approx. 2 1/4 min. left 2nd half
Updates on other games:
CUW 53, Rockford 42 Final
Lakeland 65, Aurora 52 Final
(If my math is correct, Lakeland's win eliminates Marian, regardless of whether the Sabers stage a late rally or not. Best Marian can do is tie Lakeland, and the Muskies swept the Sabers head to head).
CUC clinches a spot in the tournament with their win over Marian as well. Which leaves us with four spots (North 3, South 1) that are still up for grabs.
Final just in:
Maranatha 70, Benedictine 56 (IL Eagles, down 11 at half, started out the 2nd on a 16-3 run, but the Crusaders answered by drawing a lot of fouls, turning up the D and converting their FTs, ) The Crusaders are now tied with Edgewood for 3rd in the North.
This makes Edgewood's next 2 games (at Maranatha, vs. Lakeland) that much more important.
Wisconsin Lutheran with a quick 8-0 lead over Alverno. Schulz has six of WLC's eight points.
Though I am pleasantly enjoying the Alverno broadcasting crew.
These Alverno color commentator guys are hilarious. WLC leads Alverno 18-10 with 7.5 minutes left in the first half.
Wisconsin Lutheran 29
Alverno 15
Halftime
Wisconsin Lutheran doubling up Alverno 40-20 with just under twelve minutes left in the game. Warriors holding Inferno to 8-34 shooting.
Wisconsin Lutheran 62
Alverno 41
Final
Quote of the game
"After a good loss like this I like to cry to myself" ~Alverno color commentator
While not laughing like a crazy man at the color commentating (Epic stuff) the Warriors shut Alverno down in the second half. With Benedictine losing earlier WLC wins the NathCon South division title making it their fifth straight division title.
With all the results in here is the standings as of tonight.
North
1. Concordia Wisconsin (X) 16-6 (13-2)
2. Maranatha 13-5 (9-5)
3. Alverno 12-9 (9-5)
4. Edgewood 10-11 (9-5)
5. Lakeland 10-13 (8-8)
6. Marian 4-17 (3-11)
7. MSOE 2-17 (2-11)
South
1. Wisconsin Lutheran (X)(Y) 19-2 (14-0)
2. Benedictine (X) 11-11 (9-5)
3. Concordia Chicago (X) 8-14 (8-6)
4. Aurora 7-15 (4-10)
5. Rockford 5-17 (3-11)
6. Dominican 1-21 (1-13)
Key
X: Clinched Tournament Spot
Y: Clinched Division Title
We have a three way tie for second place in the North....Fasten your seat belts folks, it's going to be a wild ending in that division.
2/5: MSOE/Alverno: Going with the Inferno at home
CUC/Dominican: Cougars
Aurora/Rockford: Regents in a tight one.
Marian/CUW: Falcons get another win at home
Benedictine/WLC: Head says Warriors, heart says BU -- going with BU in a tight one
Edgewood/MBBC: The game of the night-- Edgewood's well rested- which MBBC squad will show up-the one that lost to Lakeland and CUW at home, or the one that ratched up the D- blocking several of BU's 3 pt attempts late in the game- to win yesterday?-- going with Edgewood.
Should MBBC win-Lakeland would have a great chance to help themselves out and play spoiler at the same time.
2/5
MSOE at Alverno: Inferno get back on track with a win here.
Concordia Chicago at Dominican: CUC handles the Stars on the road.
Aurora at Rockford: Have to take the Regents as well. Aurora can play a solid game at one point then a terrible one in the next one.
Marian at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW takes it at home.
Edgewood at Maranatha: Something has to give here....No one wants to lose this one and face falling to fourth place in the North with Lakeland playing better basketball of late right on their heels. Edgewood takes it on the road.
Benedictine at Wisconsin Lutheran: Could be a potential trap game if Benedictine catches the Warriors looking towards Saturday's Winterfest showdown against Concordia Wisconsin, but I think WLC will still prevail here.
Aurora/Rockford up shortly:
(Edgewood/MBBC set to begin 7:15 - 7:25 range).,
Aurora and Rockford are tied at 27 at halftime:
Maranatha 15 Edgewood 7 approx 9 1/2 min left 1st half.
Updates:
Aurora and Rockford are tied at 53 1 second left in regulation
(will shift to Edgewood/MBBC)
Crusaders up 41-38 less than 8 min left 2nd half
WLC 69, Benedictine 40 8 secs left 2nd half
Finals:
Alverno 62, MSOE 42
CUW 67, Marian 54
CUC 81, Dominican 70
Finals just in:
MBBC 65, Edgewood 49 (The Crusaders' 2nd half play here was the same type of intensity they showed vs. Benedictine last Saturday-up 7 when I tuned in, they forced several Eagle turnovers and MBBC again hit their FTs late to seal this one).
Rockford 60, Aurora 55 OT.
Top 5 in the North:
CUW 14-2
AC 10-5
MBBC 10-5
EC 9-6
LC 8-8
Edgewood can eliminate Lakeland by beating the Muskes at home Thursday night. Should Edgewood win that game, even if the 2 squads finish tied, the Eagles get the spot, having won the first matchup between the two.
2/7
Alverno at Marian: Alverno takes it at home.
Lakeland at Edgewood: Muskies are finally eliminated from getting a spot in the conference tournament.
Maranatha at MSOE: Crusaders take this one handily.
2/9
MSOE at Concordia Chicago: Cougars make short work of the Raiders at home.
Marian at Benedictine: BU gets back to .500.
Maranatha at Aurora: Crusaders make it harder for the Spartans to earn a conference tournament spot.
Edgewood at Rockford: Same thing applies for the Eagles against Rockford.
Alverno at Dominican: Alverno wins handily.
Concordia Wisconsin at Wisconsin Lutheran: Home Game + Winterfest + Rivalry Game + Top Seed on the line = Great Game. Warriors use their great defense to contain the Falcons and possibly impress the voters enough to gain a few more votes when the next top 25 comes out.
If my math is correct: Alverno and Maranatha can also clinch a spot in the conference tournament with wins and a Lakeland loss Thursday as well. If that happens then the last spot in the South is the last one up for grabs.
2/7:
Alverno/Marian: I, too, say Alverno
Lakeland/Edgewood: Eagles
Maranatha/MSOE: As long as the Crusaders keep that good D up, they'll be OK
2/9:
MSOE/CUC: Cougars
Maran/BU: IL Eagles
Aurora/MBBC: Aurora in a mild upset (figuring the Spartans will need this one more)
EC/Rockford: Edgewood
Alverno/Dominican: Alverno
CUW/WLC: Warriors
Suppose Alverno, Edgewood and Maranatha end up in a 3-way tie for 2nd, how would the order go?
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 06, 2013, 11:52:31 AM
Suppose Alverno, Edgewood and Maranatha end up in a 3-way tie for 2nd, how would the order go?
If they all ended up 12-6, you start with a head-to-head-to-head comparison.
MBBC - 3-1 (swept AC, split with EC)
AC - 2-2 (swept EC, got swept by MBBC)
EC - 1-3 (split with MBBC, got swept by AC)
So, MBBC #2, AC #3, EC #4
WLC is ranked #8 in the first batch of regional rankings.
Halftime score: Edgewood 29, Lakeland 24
Lakeland 74, Edgewood 56 Final
Alverno 63, Marian 44 Final
North standings:
CUW 14-2
AC 11-5
MBBC 10-5
EC 9-7
LC 9-8
(Late update just in: Welcome to the playoffs, Alverno! - NAthCon standings indicate Inferno clinched a spot-- if memory serves correctly, it'll be K Speerschneider's second shot at the tournament title- the other opportunity came her freshman year when the Inferno had Gabby Allen, Shataya McComb, et. al.)
If Maranatha is victorious tonight over MSOE that would mean they finally go the conference tournament for the first time since the Nath-Con has been around (First time since the 05-06 season which was the final season of the LMC).
Final:
Maranatha 64, MSOE 35 (I'm happy for the Crusader seniors-- it was only 2 seasons ago that they were on a squad that had won only 1 in-conference game all season-- NAthCon COY could be a tight race this time.)
"And then there were two" in the North
Edgewood: at Rockford, vs. MSOE
Lakeland: at MSOE
Correct me if I'm wrong, if the squads finish in a tie, the Muskies get the spot-having split with Alverno, while the Eagles lost to the Inferno twice.
In the South:
Aurora: vs. Maranatha, vs. WLC
Rockford: vs. Edgewood, vs. Dominican
Regents and Spartans split head-to-head. Aurora can help itself with a win over Maranatha. (The Crusaders beat Rockford earlier). I won't go any further until tomorrow's finals are in.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 08, 2013, 11:17:38 AM
If Maranatha is victorious tonight over MSOE that would mean they finally go the conference tournament for the first time since the Nath-Con has been around (First time since the 05-06 season which was the final season of the LMC).
Now that the Crusaders are in- about their 05-06 playoffs, They started off on the road at Alverno and won a tight game, (the Crusaders' Amber Lange hit several free-throws toward the end to seal the win) -- but the run ended in their next game when they got beat at Lakeland..
There was one year Maranatha made a deeper run, though, 1998-99 when as a #7 seed they beat Edgewood, and then WLC, before losing to Lakeland in the tournament final.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 08, 2013, 10:10:31 PM
Regents and Spartans split head-to-head. Aurora can help itself with a win over Maranatha. (The Crusaders beat Rockford earlier). I won't go any further until tomorrow's finals are in.
Rockford wins that tiebreaker. All results are the same until you get down to the comparison vs. Dominican. AU went 1-1 vs. DU, RC went 2-0.
2/8 Afternoon finals:
WLC 81, CUW 67 (A win on the road at Aurora, and the Warriors run the regular season table)
BU 69, Marian 54
MBBC 81, AU 69 (More incentive for the Inferno vs. Dominican tonight).
CUC 61, MSOE 40
(Brace yourselves for this one, folks)
Rockford 64, Edgewood 63 (Ryczek hit 1 of 2 FTs, and then a last-second shot by Pope missed, per Regent PBP acct)
Edgewood and Lakeland both play MSOE, the Eagles at home 2/12, Lakeland on the road 2/13.
Captain Joe 08, you sure were right about it being a wild ride in the North. Edgewood's going to have to sweat it out.
Was at the Winterfest game today and it was a typical WLC-CUW matchup...WLC got out to an early lead and CUW comes back then WLC edges out to a 32-26 halftime lead. Then CUW goes on a run to lead by seven but WLC chips away at the lead. Both teams traded the lead for a few minutes before WLC pulls away late for the big win. Dillion scored 29 points to lead all scores. Warriors clinch home court throughout the conference tournament.
I have no doubt in my mind these two teams will meet again to decide the conference tournament in two weeks. Both of them are playing their best basketball to date.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 09, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
Captain Joe 08, you sure were right about it being a wild ride in the North. Edgewood's going to have to sweat it out.
Yep Edgewood prolly squandered their best chance to clinch a tournament spot. Now they hope that MSOE pulls the big upset. It's turning into the South division in the men (2-4 separated by 1/2 game).
Dominican leads Alverno 27-23 at Halftime.
Both teams are not shooting the ball well (Alverno sub 30%).
Alverno start the second half on a 13-4 run to take a 36-31 lead with 13:50 left.
Alverno 58
Dominican 41
Final
Alverno shut down the Stars in the in second half. Dominican finishes the game shooting 26% while Alverno finishes at 36%.
With the results today here is the seeding for the Nath-Con Tournament (with one conference game remaining)
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 21-2 (16-0)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 17-7 (14-3)
3. Maranatha 16-5 (12-5) (will lock up seed with win against Marian...Owns Head-to-Head Tiebreaker over Alverno)
4. Benedictine 12-12 (10-6)
5. Alverno 15-9 (12-5) (Needs a win and a Maranatha Loss to get a higher seed)
6. Concordia Chicago 10-14 (10-6)
7. Rockford 7-17 (5-11) (One game up on Aurora and owns tiebreaker over the Spartans due to common opponents)
8. Lakeland 11-13 (9-8) (gets the nod due to better record against common opponents (Maranatha LC 2-0, EC 1-1))
I believe if it stays as is, Rockford would be the 7 seed and LC would be the 8th as Rockford won the regular season matchup between the two? If I have the seeding theory correct?
Quote from: NACfan215 on February 09, 2013, 11:19:32 PM
I believe if it stays as is, Rockford would be the 7 seed and LC would be the 8th as Rockford won the regular season matchup between the two? If I have the seeding theory correct?
Yep. They get the head to head nod there. Lakeland was the last team to beat WLC in the conference tournament (on the road for that matter as well).
2/12-13 docket: Final push to the regular season finish line.
2/12: MSOE/Edgewood: Going with the Eagles. (moreso after the Pat Summit-like pep talk they'll probably get).
MBBC/Marian: Crusaders (as long as they pound the ball inside and don't get lulled into just shooting 3s.)
2/13 : Alverno/CUW: Falcons in a tight one
WLC/Aurora: WLC (could be closer than expected, however)
Dominican/RC: Regents seal the last South playoff spot (Stars can make it interesting if they're hitting on 3s)
CUC/BU: IL Eagles take another tight one (more depth on bench).
LC/MSOE: How much will the Raiders have left in the tank? Muskies take this one.
2/12
MSOE at Edgewood: Edgewood wins big....
Maranatha at Marian: Crusaders top off their finest season in the conference with a win.
2/13
Alverno at Concordia Wisconsin: GOTW...will the Inferno be able to hang a loss on the Falcons on Buuck? Don't think so...
Wisconsin Lutheran at Aurora: WLC has clinched the home court but an undefeated conference record is still out there....Warriors get that undefeated conference mark.
Dominican at Rockford: Unless Dominican has a perfect night and Aurora pulls off the monumental upset Rockford gets the last spot in the South.
Concordia Chicago at Benedictine: Second place in the South and a potential first round home game hangs in the balance here. Benedictine takes it in a tight one.
Lakeland at MSOE: Muskies clinch a tournament spot and earn a first round matchup against WLC.
MSOE/Edgewood on deck:
Half: Edgewood 31, MSOE 23
Edgewood on the verge of breaking this one open: Eagles lead 47-33 with 11 min. left 2nd half
Final: Edgewood 73, MSOE 50 (Eagles' Tobin had a career-high 25 pts.)
Shifting to MBBC/Marian:
Marian 19, MBBC 17 Half
Crusaders have gone on a 21-6 scoring run and now lead Marian 40-25 10:52 left 2nd half.
Final: Maranatha 49, Marian 37
(This just in: Per NAthCon site, with this win the Crusaders seal the 3rd seed and with that, at least 1 home playoff game.
Hats off to the Crusaders for a very good season. Morrison could be in the running for COY in the conference.
Wisconsin Lutheran falls out of the regional rankings despite not losing. UW-Stevens Point takes their place. IMO I was not really sold that the Warriors would be considered for an Pool C bid especially with no real statement wins (best wins were against Westminster (14-9) and Hamline (12-11)).
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 13, 2013, 09:16:30 AM
Hats off to the Crusaders for a very good season. Morrison could be in the running for COY in the conference.
IMHO Brad Duckworth of Alverno is also in the running. The Inferno weren't expected to qualify for the conference playoffs.
I'll talk more on post-season awards after tonight's finals come in.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 13, 2013, 04:09:47 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran falls out of the regional rankings despite not losing. UW-Stevens Point takes their place. IMO I was not really sold that the Warriors would be considered for an Pool C bid especially with no real statement wins (best wins were against Westminster (14-9) and Hamline (12-11)).
Can't help but wonder if the women's NAthCon is considered weaker this year than last (Warriors managed to get enough distance in their division- perhaps the dogfight in the North --ironically-- doesn't help much). Or is the WIAC stronger this year? :-X :-X :-\ :-\
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 13, 2013, 07:29:22 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 13, 2013, 04:09:47 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran falls out of the regional rankings despite not losing. UW-Stevens Point takes their place. IMO I was not really sold that the Warriors would be considered for an Pool C bid especially with no real statement wins (best wins were against Westminster (14-9) and Hamline (12-11)).
Can't help but wonder if the women's NAthCon is considered weaker this year than last (Warriors managed to get enough distance in their division- perhaps the dogfight in the North --ironically-- doesn't help much). Or is the WIAC stronger this year? :-X :-X :-\ :-\
WIAC seems to be slightly "down" than last year but really competitive. I think that the tougher schedules that the WIAC schools play seemed to hold a bit more weight than what WLC plays. I think that the Nath-Con to some degree is stronger than the SLIAC based on out of conference records. Plus it hurt's that when you have two teams (who ironically finished first and second in the south last year) go a combined 3-44 this year as well. WLC has done better than expected after losing Johnson to graduation and Kuehl to UW-Oshkosh.
Just hope that WLC can make a run in the NCAA's if they make it that far.
CUC/Benedictine on deck: (Gonna find out if IL Eagles can land that #4 seed).
Anyone getting any feed from the MSOE/LC game? its 25 after 7 and the game clock is at 19:09 left in the first....
Half Benedictine 30, CUC 29 (Eagles' Gaede hit a couple of 3s right near the end of the half),
Quote from: NACfan215 on February 13, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
Anyone getting any feed from the MSOE/LC game? its 25 after 7 and the game clock is at 19:09 left in the first....
NAthCon WBB main page has Lakeland up on MSOE, 28-22 at halftime.
Other halftime scores:
CUW 25, Alverno 20
WLC 46, Aurora 28
Rockford 33, Dominican 23
Yeah it just updated from 19:09 to halftime, lol
11:40 left Benedictine 48, CUC 31 (Genke on bench with 4 fouls)
Welcome back to the playoffs, Rockford!
Final: Rockford 68, Dominican 51
WLC knocks off Aurora 71-52 and runs the regular season table in the conference.
Benedictine up 67-43 on CUC 16 seconds left 2nd half
Duckworth for COY!
Alverno beats CUW at CUW
Pairings:
#8 LC at #1 WLC
#7 RC at #2 CUW
#6 CUC at #3 MBBC
#5 Alverno at #4 Benedictine
LC wins 63-39
Pairings have been updated accordingly:
(thrunt 01's definitely cheering on that last result--)
Quote from: NACfan215 on February 13, 2013, 09:34:47 PM
Duckworth for COY!
Alverno beats CUW at CUW
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 13, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 13, 2013, 09:16:30 AM
Hats off to the Crusaders for a very good season. Morrison could be in the running for COY in the conference.
IMHO Brad Duckworth of Alverno is also in the running. The Inferno weren't expected to qualify for the conference playoffs.
I'll talk more on post-season awards after tonight's finals come in.
It'll be a tight race between Duckworth and Morrison for the award. What helped in Duckworth's case was the return of K Schaeren gave him more depth on the bench toward the end. All of the Inferno starters logged at least 28 minutes per game in-conference. (Speerschneider logged in just a shade over 38 minutes per game). 2 other Inferno players were in the top 11 in that category. That Gorman kid was consistent for him, too, game after game.
Morrison, in contrast A) had a core group of players (Peterson, DeLozier and Peotter) that got to know his system for at least 3 seasons. B) Though he had a bit more depth on his bench than Alverno, 4 of his 5 starters also put in at least 30 minutes per game in-conference. C) He had several better than average shot-blockers to work with as well.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 13, 2013, 09:51:37 PM
Pairings have been updated accordingly:
(thrunt 01's definitely cheering on that last result--)
Yeah. Figured they'd get the win. The big one was RC beating EC last Saturday. Do to my WIAC commitments I won't be able to make it to Saturday's game. Here's to hoping for an LC upset.
Quote from: thrunt01 on February 13, 2013, 11:51:18 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 13, 2013, 09:51:37 PM
Pairings have been updated accordingly:
(thrunt 01's definitely cheering on that last result--)
Yeah. Figured they'd get the win. The big one was RC beating EC last Saturday. Do to my WIAC commitments I won't be able to make it to Saturday's game. Here's to hoping for an LC upset.
I'll try to be there. It depends how sore I am after my match earlier in the day. I think WLC will win but can't really underestimate a team that has been on a roll recently like Lakeland.
Also WLC and Lakeland have had some great battles in the conference tournaments over the years dating back to the LMC.
My take on "what the statistics can't tell you".
Teams with least to lose: MBBC and Alverno (neither were projected to get this far to begin with)
Teams I'd fear the most on their emotion/momentum: Lakeland and Maranatha. (Muskies have the potential inside-outside balance to do some damage. Crusaders get a home game, and their 6th man can get pretty loud).
If Rockford upsets CUW ---
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 14, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
My take on "what the statistics can't tell you".
Teams with least to lose: MBBC and Alverno (neither were projected to get this far to begin with)
Teams I'd fear the most on their emotion/momentum: Lakeland and Maranatha. (Muskies have the potential inside-outside balance to do some damage. Crusaders get a home game, and their 6th man can get pretty loud).
If Rockford upsets CUW ---
I was thinking about that for Lakeland....WLC needs to do what they did when they beat them earlier in the season and they will be fine. It will be something if Maranatha makes it to the finals in their final season in the conference...prolly the best feel good story so far. I still see WLC as the favorite in the tournament. I will elaborate later today on the conference tournament participants (when I am not busy with class work.).
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 13, 2013, 09:44:03 PM
Pairings:
#8 LC at #1 WLC
#7 RC at #2 CUW
#6 CUC at #3 MBBC
#5 Alverno at #4 Benedictine
My first round guesses: 8 vs. 1. Lakeland wins if: Eisner & Mayo have a field day on the glass, and Muskes hit their 3s
WLC wins if: Play 40 minutes of solid D , hit 3s
X-factors Warriors' Dillon, WLC's 6th man.
Pick: Warriors in another tight one.
7 sv. 2 Rockford wins if: CUW comes out flat and has an off day shooting.
Zietlow and Luethe are slowed down just enough.
X-factor: (psychology): It took a Hendrickson buzzer-beater to knock the Regents off in the playoffs a couple of years back. I don't espect the Falcons want history to repeat itself.
Pick: CUW at home
6 vs. 3. MBBC wins if: Crusaders establish themselve on the glass, play solid D and get to the line.,
CUC wins if: They create a lot ot turnvers and keep Genke & Rickett on the floor.
X-factors: Crusaders' 6th man.
Pick: Maranatha gets it done at home.
5 vs. 4 Alverno wins if: Gorman and the others on the front line get a lot of rebounds and Inferno shoot well.
BU wins if: They're hitting their 3s, Hafleigh and either Gaede or Novak score big and they get a lot of points off turnovers.
Pick: Benedictine
Lakeland at Wisconsin Lutheran: Coach K will have the Warriors focused on the bigger goal here on a third straight NCAA postseason appearance. The Muskies won't go quietly but the Warriors advance in the end.
Rockford at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW was not expecting to enter the tournament on a two game losing streak. Rockford has some athletes that could give the Falcons trouble but CUW wins here.
Concordia Chicago at Maranatha: If Maranatha does not want their first (and last) conference tournament appearance to be a one and done they need to shoot the ball well and play D against a CUC team that enters the tournament winning eight of their last twelve. I'll take the Crusaders in a tight one.
Alverno at Benedictine: This is the toss up of this round....Alverno needs to do what they have done previously to advance however I think BU gets the win.
Winners:
WLC
CUW
CUC
BENU
Taking a look at the WLC-Lakeland game and popping into the other games.
CUC/Maranatha up shortly:
First timeout at the Rex
Wisconsin Lutheran 12
Lakeland 4
Lakeland 0-4 from three point land early.
Wisconsin Lutheran 22
Lakeland 15
4:00 1st
WLC has cooled off shooting wise which has allowed Lakeland to crawl back into it.
Maranatha 39, CUC 25 Half (Rickett buried a 3 at the buzzer).
CUC not shooting that well. Crusaders have hit several 3s and got to the line (old fashioned 3-pt plays).
Wisconsin Lutheran 24
Lakeland 18
Half
Sloppy ending for the WLC....kept turning the ball over.
Other Quarterfinal Halftime scores
Concordia Wisconsin 35
Rockford 26
Benedictine 16
Alverno 13
14:18 left 2nd half:
Maranatha 47, CUC 31 (Peotter on the bench after picking up her 3rd foul).
Maranatha 54, CUC 37 9:09 left in 2nd half.
Final: Maranatha 67, CUC 50 (It was the Cougars' turn to shoot poorly tonight. DeLozier and the other Crusader talls were able to repeatedly break the Cougar press and work the ball down low for buckets inside. DeLozier got to the line a lot.)
(former Crusader players Colleen Goff, Amanda Moses, Korinne Israel, and the one who was known as "Bond-- Kim Bond" during her playing days -- cheering. . . . )
Gatorade soak for Maranatha follower libero: "1, 2, 3, heave--SPLASH!!"
Wisconsin Lutheran 65
Lakeland 40
Final
WLC broke it open midway through the second half.
Game breaker for Lakeland: 3/20 from three point land.
Concordia Wisconsin 72
Rockford 54
Benedictine 53
Alverno 42
Semi-Finals:
Benedictine/WLC:
Maranatha/CUW:
(Earlier matchups: BU/WLC had a tight one -- Falcons and Crusaders played each other twice previously-MBBC won by 2 in Mequon, and then the Falcons won big in Watertown in the return matchup.)
All-Conference Team:
IMHO:
Closest things to "locks: WLC: S Dillon, K Schulz
Alverno: D Gorman
MBBC: T DeLozier, A Peotter (at least 1 of the 2)
CUW: Luethe and/or Zietlow
Others worthy of at least an honorable mention:
Alverno: K Speerschneider
Lakeland: B Mayo, L Eisner (at least 1 of the 2)
CUC: Genke
EC: A Tobin
Not sure how two people who are top 4 in both scoring and rebounding in the league are not "locks" (Eisner, Genke)? Over someone who was behind them both in rebounds and 35th in scoring (Schulz)?
Also how Zietlow would be a lock for first team, only 41st in scoring, assuming your basing this on pure "PG" ability, which if this is the case Zietlow does not even come close to comparing to Tilleman from LC last year who led the conference in assist and steals, Zietlow not even #1 conference in assist and not top 10 in steals. And lets not forget Tilleman led the entire NATION at the D3 level in assist to turnover ratio.... and she was only selected as honorable mention all-conference for the NAC.
Seems like most the voters make their decision solely based on the statistics (mainly scoring and rebouding) and not the other intangible that players bring to the court. with that said here is my opinion (which obviously has its own fair criticism) :)
First Team:
Genke - CUC
Dillon - WLC
Luethe - CUW
Gorman - Alverno
Eisner/Mayo - LC
Second Team:
Eisner/Mayo - LC
Delozier - MBBC
Peotter - MBBC
Tobin - EC
Strong - MSOE
Honorable Mention:
Zietlow - CUW
Speerschneider - Alverno
Ryczek - RC
Shculz - WLC
Budz - DU
Freshman (who I dont include in all-conference selections)
Kroll - MSOE
Cervany - Marian
Dorrington - AU
Marlow - AU
Tapanes - DU
I admit to putting Zietlow up as high as I did based on her not being too shy about repeatedly taking the ball "in the land of the giants" so to speak. Secondly, I hadn't intended that all names on my list be etched in stone where I had 'em. I was just trying to generate some talk.
I have no problem with your selections, however. Your reasoning makes sense.
Sorry, didnt mean to come off aggressive, was just arguing from a statistical stand point. I do agree that it seems the voters dont base their decisions on other non-statistical parts of peoples games such as leadership, toughness, clutch, etc... it would be nice if some of that was factored into the decision.
Anybody looking at potential player of the year? I think it could come down to Genke, Luthe, Dillion to see who gets it.
IMHO, from a mostly team-needed standpoint, Genke would get the nod. (Case in point, she had to sit due to foul trouble vs. Benedictine, and the Eagle squad made their decisive run when she wasn't on the floor.)
Still, I could also see where the other 2 would be in the running.
Wisconsin Lutheran jumps up to 12 votes in the latest top 25 poll (tied with Castleton for 33rd).
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 18, 2013, 06:14:41 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran jumps up to 12 votes in the latest top 25 poll (tied with Castleton for 33rd).
Thanks for the heads-up -- I looked into this and one of the voters for Castleton did so in error. Point totals have been adjusted.
NAthCon Semi-Final guesses:
Maranatha/CUW: Falcons have a bit more quickness in their backcourt. Going with CUW at home. Crusaders can still take this if they get points off turnovers and play and shoot like they did in their last game.
BU/WLC: Warriors get back to the final by prevailing in a tight one. It'll be interesting though if Hafleigh draws enough charges and Novak and Gaede are hitting their 3s if WLC has an off night.
My picks:
Maranatha at Concordia Wisconsin: Feel good story vs established conference power. I feel this could be a close game here but Maranatha needs to be solid on the offensive end and establish their presence inside. I'll have to take the Falcons on this one.
Benedictine at Wisconsin Lutheran: This is the third meeting that these two hook up in the conference tournament. Wisconsin Lutheran ends Benedictine's season for the third straight year.
Prediction: CUW and WLC meet for championship
Maranatha/CUW up shortly:
Half: CUW 27, Maranatha 12
(Crusaders already have 16 turnovers)
5:08 left CUW 41, Maranatha 32
(Crusaders had it down to 6 at one point),
Final: CUW 47, Maranatha 40
Maranatha had it down to 5 with 1 1/2 minutes left, but couldn't convert on their opportunities. Falcons hit late FTs to seal it.
Other game final: WLC 69, Benedictine 47
For the third year in a row it'll be another Falcon/Warrior tournament final.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 21, 2013, 09:39:31 PM
Final: CUW 47, Maranatha 40
Maranatha had it down to 5 with 1 1/2 minutes left, but couldn't convert on their opportunities. Falcons hit late FTs to seal it.
Other game final: WLC 69, Benedictine 47
For the third year in a row it'll be another Falcon/Warrior tournament final.
Last year it was WLC/Dominican final (even though the WLC-CUW semifinal eventually decided the title then).
How soon I forget. I stand corrected.
Don't worry WLCAlum, we college students have those days....Also it says alot about how Dominican went from 19-9 and an appearance in the conference tournament finals to dead last in the south at 1-24. Especially since the combined records of the top two finishers in the South last year are a combined 3-46 this year.
Well I'll give my thoughts on Saturday's Game.
Concordia Wisconsin 19-8 (14-4) at Wisconsin Lutheran 24-2 (17-0): If the last few games between these two have any bearing then this will be a game of momentum swings. WLC needs to keep making shots and playing lockdown defense and they should be fine here. I'll take the Warriors.
Final: WLC 75, CUW 52 Way to seize the opportunity, Warriors!
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 23, 2013, 09:47:05 PM
Final: WLC 75, CUW 52 Way to seize the opportunity, Warriors!
I was at the game (and as a result of being in the Sixth Man, having no voice afterwards). The game was over after the first two minutes when CUW turned the ball over twice on their first few possessions. WLC put the hammer down and built a lead that at times was 25 or better before settling for a 42-19 halftime score.
The second half was no different as the Warriors did not allow Concordia to get within 19 and cruised to a dominating win. I am more surprised that CUW could not get back within the game after the first half. WLC thoroughly blitzed them all night long.
Here is the bigger debate for WLC fans: Which Northern Athletics Conference title was more impressive?
10-11: 26-4 (16-2) First ever win in the NCAA tournament, School Record for wins.
11-12: 24-5 (17-1) Knocking off eventual D2 Sunshine Conference Co-Champs Barry University
12-13: 26-2 (17-0) First team to run the table in conference play, Setting the school record for consecutive wins (still active)
There is more than one angle to look at for comparisons.
10-11: Was Erika Laete's Senior year and the Warriors had knocked off ranked UW-Whitewater early. Of their in-conference losses, I'd say the least expected one was the one they took at CUC that season. (That was when the Cougars still had high scoring Marche Smith, it was her Senior year.) Right toward the end Erika was called upon to step up her game, and boy, did she ever, going off for 50 pts vs. Dominican. (the win over the Warhawks factored into the favorable first round tournament draw the Warriors got, and they knocked off a UW-LaCrosse squad that had a size advantage but had an off-game shooting from outside vs. WLC.
11-12: From an in-conference performance standpoint, I'd say this was probably the most impressive Warrior performance of the 3 seasons. Rachel Johnson and Shavon Dillon were the leading scorers, but there was better overall WLC team balance for the entire conference sesaon, and the same player wasn't called upon to come up with a super-big game. Edgewood, CUW and Lakeland were in WLC's division as in 10-11 as well (IMHO, the North, at least on paper,seemed to be the tougher side).
12-13: As Captain Joe 08 pointed out in an earlier post, the drop-offs of MSOE and Dominican factor in somewhat this year. The Warrior balance and defense was generally as consistent this year as 11-12--
D3hoops has the Warriors going to Cornell (IA) to face the Rams in the first round. I would find that ironic if it that happens because the Men's Tennis team is heading out to Cornell for Tennis that same weekend ;D.
Wisconsin Lutheran goes to UW-Whitewater to play the Warhawks. Other half of the pod is Carthage and Thomas More.
Quote from: Just Bill on February 25, 2013, 02:58:06 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran goes to UW-Whitewater to play the Warhawks. Other half of the pod is Carthage and Thomas More.
Very favorable matchup for WLC. Coach Klay got the chance to scout UWW yesterday and he said that they have a good shot of beating them. I think it's possible for WLC to win both games this weekend.
I'll root for WLC, but I'll take Whitewater to win by 20+.
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Quote from: Just Bill on February 25, 2013, 02:58:06 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran goes to UW-Whitewater to play the Warhawks. Other half of the pod is Carthage and Thomas More.
Very favorable matchup for WLC. Coach Klay got the chance to scout UWW yesterday and he said that they have a good shot of beating them. I think it's possible for WLC to win both games this weekend.
Not a chance. I think UWW pounds them.
Don't think Whitewater runs away with it. WLC has been flying under the radar the entire season and been playing very good basketball into the tournament.
Here is the all conference selections
http://northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2012-13/all-conference (http://northernac.org/sports/wbkb/2012-13/all-conference)
Dillion as POY, Coach Klay and Coach Morrison are co-COY.
NACfan was right on all first team projections except Peterson of Maranatha. (she somehow slipped to a dim part of our poster radar screen despite averaging more than 5 blocked shots per game in-conference-nearly twice as many as the player who finished 2nd in that category.)
NACfan wasn't too far off on the rest of them, either.
I'll put in an Honorable Mention to Alverno's Brad Duckworth for the season the Inferno had as well.
Almost had the entire freshman team as well, forgot about Coenen from CUW, solid contributor off the benvh. Funny thing was I struggled to find that fifth person as well, lol.
Peterson was a little surprising to me as first team, I guess the voters put a lot of value on defensive presence.
Stayed tuned for my WAY to earlier preseason rankings. (Which will be WAY off like last year)
Quote from: Just Bill on February 25, 2013, 03:28:26 PM
I'll root for WLC, but I'll take Whitewater to win by 20+.
Nailed it. 68-48. Good season Warriors.
Good-bye Warrior Seniors, thanks for giving your all!
With the NAthCon going to 1 division next year, it'll be tougher for WLC to keep the run going-- regardless, its' been a good 3 year run and they got an opening round win a couple of years back.
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Wisconsin Lutheran goes to UW-Whitewater to play the Warhawks. Other half of the pod is Carthage and Thomas More.
Very favorable matchup for WLC. Coach Klay got the chance to scout UWW yesterday and he said that they have a good shot of beating them. I think it's possible for WLC to win both games this weekend.
Not a chance. I think UWW pounds them.
Not to rub it in but as I said UWW is/was clearly better. A huge negative about the new conference schedule for WLC is it reduces their ability to schedule some really tough non-con opponents. My thinking is if it is going to take an auto bid to get you in anyway and you're generally a good team you should schedule really tough non-con games to improve yourself and get a good idea where you stand nationally. Just a thought.
thrunt01:
To add more to your last point on your last post-- not only the scheduling factor, but also (assuming all hands who don't graduate return to NAthCon squads) I can think of one in-conference rival that may very well be tougher next year--Benedictine-- (Lippman is the only IL Eagle who'll be graduating--and if that Joseph kid stays healthy for an entire season--)
The Warrior cupboard doesn't figure to be totally bare next year but I'm expecting a drop-off.
I was working on some thoughts looking ahead to next season (albeit too early)
Something tells me that this new format will either be helpful in that the teams that should be good rise to the top or could hurt the conference in that some of the teams that finish with solid records got those W's by beating up on the weaker teams. Also the new format could hurt in that there isn't many (only three!) non-conference games that teams can gauge themselves with outside the conference. Also could prove true in cases like WLC (Has the Warrior tip off tournament to start the season), and both Concordia's (Both participate in the CIT against NAIA foes) which take up two of the three non-conference games.
Also it will be interesting going forward how Coach Knueppel can cope with losing Allister, Day, Bahr, Thoma, and Dillion. As WLCAlum said the cupboard is not fully bare but Schulz needs to improve her game a bit (ball-handling wise), also Hoft, Klemm, and Laete need to make bigger contributions on the floor if they want to continue WLC's reign atop the Nath-Con.
From the information I have, the women will be playing a 20 game conference schedule, this leaving room for 5 non-conference games. Works out nice cause they can still do a tip-off classic as well as a holiday tourney plus another game. However this brings up another issue for me about the fairness of the rotating schedule of who each team would play twice during a season and then the two teams you would only play once? Depending on who you only have to play once each season could be a game changer in the standings?
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From the information I have, the women will be playing a 20 game conference schedule, this leaving room for 5 non-conference games. Works out nice cause they can still do a tip-off classic as well as a holiday tourney plus another game. However this brings up another issue for me about the fairness of the rotating schedule of who each team would play twice during a season and then the two teams you would only play once? Depending on who you only have to play once each season could be a game changer in the standings?
I am under the understanding that it is a 22 game true double round robin schedule. The men will play 20 because Alverno doesn't have a men's team. I could be wrong.
I'm checking with a couple people for confirmation, but I'm fairly certain it's a full double round robin on both sides, so 22 games for the women and 20 for the men. I'll let you know if I hear from someone.
I have to ask this (WLCAlum you can chime in here as well)...When did WLC start the Tip-Off Tournament?
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on March 05, 2013, 08:24:55 PM
I have to ask this (WLCAlum you can chime in here as well)...When did WLC start the Tip-Off Tournament?
Farthest back I could find was the 2005-06 season per old LMC site; (doesn't identify opening weekend opponents that season) 06-07 Greenville IL and Aurora were 2 of the 3 other teams involved -- as per a posting from that season on the SLIAC board, 07-08 Fontbonne, Wartburg and St. Benedict (MN) were the other Tip-Off Tournament teams. Caught action from 3 of the 4 games in person. Wartburg took that opening weekend title by out-playing a much taller St. Benedict squad, and then having a hot day shooting, beating the Warriors big in the closing game. WLC beat Fontbonne the previous day in a game in which the Warriors led big and then held off a late Fontbonne run by hitting some 3s toward the end. (If memory serves correcr, that was the same season the Warriors' Whitney Miller ended up sitting out due to a torn ACL.)
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I have to ask this (WLCAlum you can chime in here as well)...When did WLC start the Tip-Off Tournament?
Farthest back I could find was the 2005-06 season per old LMC site; (doesn't identify opening weekend opponents that season) 06-07 Greenville IL and Aurora were 2 of the 3 other teams involved -- as per a posting from that season on the SLIAC board, 07-08 Fontbonne, Wartburg and St. Benedict (MN) were the other Tip-Off Tournament teams. Caught action from 3 of the 4 games in person. Wartburg took that opening weekend title by out-playing a much taller St. Benedict squad, and then having a hot day shooting, beating the Warriors big in the closing game. WLC beat Fontbonne the previous day in a game in which the Warriors led big and then held off a late Fontbonne run by hitting some 3s toward the end. (If memory serves correcr, that was the same season the Warriors' Whitney Miller ended up sitting out due to a torn ACL.)
Yeah I remember my first year at WLC it was Calvin, Elmhurst and Finlandia. The more loaded tournament I can think of was my third year here when it was UW-Whitewater, Calvin, and Hiedelburg. It seemed from year to year the competition that the tournament brought it was getting better and better.
Sure enough NACfan, you were right. The women's coaches had planned to play a full double round robin, but have now opted for 20 games instead. They'll have a rotation schedule to dictate which teams they only meet once each season.
Quote from: Just Bill on March 06, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
Sure enough NACfan, you were right. The women's coaches had planned to play a full double round robin, but have now opted for 20 games instead. They'll have a rotation schedule to dictate which teams they only meet once each season.
I'm starting to like that idea as I think about it more. The single game against a conference opponent could be useful if it comes down to a tiebreaker especially if it's the two teams that played each other once.
Here are the non-cons that I could find as of right now.
Wisconsin Lutheran
11/19 vs Mount Mary
11/22 vs Washington (MO) Paul F. Knueppel Classic
11/23 vs Hope (MI) Paul F. Kneuppel Classic
Alverno
11/19 at Illinois Tech
12/18 vs Illinois Tech
12/20 vs Randolph at St. Petersburg, FL
12/21 vs Dubuque (IA) at St. Petersburg, FL
1/3 vs Bethany Lutheran
Aurora
11/16 at Monmouth (IL)
11/19 vs Wheaton (IL)
11/23 at North Park (IL)
11/26 at Webster (MO)
12/30 vs North Central (IL)
Benedictine
Schedule isn't up yet
Concordia Chicago
Schedule isn't up yet
Concordia Wisconsin
11/16 at Augustana (IL)
11/20 at Carroll (WI)
11/26 vs UW-La Crosse
1/24 vs Concordia Nebraska (Concordia Invitational Tournament)
1/25 at Concordia Invitational Tournament
Dominican
11/15 vs Knox at Chicago
11/16 vs Westminster (MO)
11/20 vs Elmhurst (IL)
11/26 vs Albion (MI)
12/19 vs North Central (IL)
Edgewood
11/16 vs Loras (IA)
11/17 vs Dubuque (IA)
11/23 vs UW-Whitewater
12/28 at Millikin (IL)
12/29 vs UW-Stevens Point
Lakeland
Schedule isn't up yet
Marian
Schedule isn't up yet
MSOE
Schedule isn't up yet
Rockford
11/15 at Chicago Tournament
11/16 at Chicago Tournament
11/19 vs Knox (IL)
12/18 at Cornell (IA)
12/30 vs Augustana (IL)
WLC has only three non-conference games while almost everyone else has at five...
Talk about going for it-- in terms of WLC, Wash-MO and Hope-MI --can't get much tougher than those two. Edgewood has 2 opponents (Whitewater and Stevens Point,) who also made the tournament last year, Rockford has 1 (Cornell-IA).
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on June 06, 2013, 07:44:18 PM
Talk about going for it-- in terms of WLC, Wash-MO and Hope-MI --can't get much tougher than those two. Edgewood has 2 opponents (Whitewater and Stevens Point,) who also made the tournament last year, Rockford has 1 (Cornell-IA).
Their opening season tournament continues to pull in the top teams in the country on a consistent basis.
Very good scheduling by WLC. The Warriors are a quality team that need to test themselves outside of conference to get ready for a potential NCAA tournament appearance. Given geography, they are going to play a WIAC team, Calvin or Hope, the CCIW champion or someone like that in the first round of the NCAA. They aren't going to get a test like that in conference so they should schedule aggressively.
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Quote from: Just Bill on February 25, 2013, 02:58:06 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran goes to UW-Whitewater to play the Warhawks. Other half of the pod is Carthage and Thomas More.
Very favorable matchup for WLC. Coach Klay got the chance to scout UWW yesterday and he said that they have a good shot of beating them. I think it's possible for WLC to win both games this weekend.
Not a chance. I think UWW pounds them.
Not to rub it in but as I said UWW is/was clearly better. A huge negative about the new conference schedule for WLC is it reduces their ability to schedule some really tough non-con opponents. My thinking is if it is going to take an auto bid to get you in anyway and you're generally a good team you should schedule really tough non-con games to improve yourself and get a good idea where you stand nationally. Just a thought.
Quote from: gordonmann on June 07, 2013, 02:11:38 PM
Very good scheduling by WLC. The Warriors are a quality team that need to test themselves outside of conference to get ready for a potential NCAA tournament appearance. Given geography, they are going to play a WIAC team, Calvin or Hope, the CCIW champion or someone like that in the first round of the NCAA. They aren't going to get a test like that in conference so they should schedule aggressively.
Good to see we agree on this. :)
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on June 06, 2013, 06:42:28 PM
Here are the non-cons that I could find as of right now.
Wisconsin Lutheran
11/19 vs Mount Mary
11/22 vs Washington (MO) Paul F. Knueppel Classic
11/23 vs Hope (MI) Paul F. Kneuppel Classic
Alverno
11/19 at Illinois Tech
12/18 vs Illinois Tech
12/20 vs Randolph at St. Petersburg, FL
12/21 vs Dubuque (IA) at St. Petersburg, FL
1/3 vs Bethany Lutheran
Aurora
11/16 at Monmouth (IL)
11/19 vs Wheaton (IL)
11/23 at North Park (IL)
11/26 at Webster (MO)
12/30 vs North Central (IL)
Benedictine
Schedule isn't up yet
Concordia Chicago
Schedule isn't up yet
Concordia Wisconsin
11/16 at Augustana (IL)
11/20 at Carroll (WI)
11/26 vs UW-La Crosse
1/24 vs Concordia Nebraska (Concordia Invitational Tournament)
1/25 at Concordia Invitational Tournament
Dominican
11/15 vs Knox at Chicago
11/16 vs Westminster (MO)
11/20 vs Elmhurst (IL)
11/26 vs Albion (MI)
12/19 vs North Central (IL)
Edgewood
11/16 vs Loras (IA)
11/17 vs Dubuque (IA)
11/23 vs UW-Whitewater
12/28 at Millikin (IL)
12/29 vs UW-Stevens Point
Lakeland
Schedule isn't up yet
Marian
Schedule isn't up yet
MSOE
Schedule isn't up yet
Rockford
11/15 at Chicago Tournament
11/16 at Chicago Tournament
11/19 vs Knox (IL)
12/18 at Cornell (IA)
12/30 vs Augustana (IL)
WLC has only three non-conference games while almost everyone else has at five...
Here are non-conference opponents for 2 more NACC schools: (per 6/15 composite schedule)
Marian:
11/19 at UW-Stout
11/22 at UW-Platteville
11/23 at UW-LaCrosse
11/26 vs UW-Stevens Pt.
12/18 vs UW Oshkosh
MSOE:
11/25 at Mt. Mary
12/17 vs North Central-IL
12/19 at Maranatha
(By the way, WLC women play Maranatha as a non-con at home 12/17)
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Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on June 06, 2013, 06:42:28 PM
Here are the non-cons that I could find as of right now.
Wisconsin Lutheran
11/19 vs Mount Mary
11/22 vs Washington (MO) Paul F. Knueppel Classic
11/23 vs Hope (MI) Paul F. Kneuppel Classic
Alverno
11/19 at Illinois Tech
12/18 vs Illinois Tech
12/20 vs Randolph at St. Petersburg, FL
12/21 vs Dubuque (IA) at St. Petersburg, FL
1/3 vs Bethany Lutheran
Aurora
11/16 at Monmouth (IL)
11/19 vs Wheaton (IL)
11/23 at North Park (IL)
11/26 at Webster (MO)
12/30 vs North Central (IL)
Benedictine
Schedule isn't up yet
Concordia Chicago
Schedule isn't up yet
Concordia Wisconsin
11/16 at Augustana (IL)
11/20 at Carroll (WI)
11/26 vs UW-La Crosse
1/24 vs Concordia Nebraska (Concordia Invitational Tournament)
1/25 at Concordia Invitational Tournament
Dominican
11/15 vs Knox at Chicago
11/16 vs Westminster (MO)
11/20 vs Elmhurst (IL)
11/26 vs Albion (MI)
12/19 vs North Central (IL)
Edgewood
11/16 vs Loras (IA)
11/17 vs Dubuque (IA)
11/23 vs UW-Whitewater
12/28 at Millikin (IL)
12/29 vs UW-Stevens Point
Lakeland
Schedule isn't up yet
Marian
Schedule isn't up yet
MSOE
Schedule isn't up yet
Rockford
11/15 at Chicago Tournament
11/16 at Chicago Tournament
11/19 vs Knox (IL)
12/18 at Cornell (IA)
12/30 vs Augustana (IL)
WLC has only three non-conference games while almost everyone else has at five...
Here are non-conference opponents for 2 more NACC schools: (per 6/15 composite schedule)
Marian:
11/19 at UW-Stout
11/22 at UW-Platteville
11/23 at UW-LaCrosse
11/26 vs UW-Stevens Pt.
12/18 vs UW Oshkosh
MSOE:
11/25 at Mt. Mary
12/17 vs North Central-IL
12/19 at Maranatha
(By the way, WLC women play Maranatha as a non-con at home 12/17)
I saw that the other day and it looks like the men's team has also picked up Maranatha for a non-con in February.
Concordia-Chicago non-cons for 2013-14:
12/29/13 U of Southern Maine @ Scottsdale AZ
12/30/13 PLU or Transylvania @ Scottsdale AZ
1/24/14 Concordia-Ann Arbor @ CIT
1/25/14 Concordia-NE or Concordia-WI @ CIT
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Quote from: Just Bill on February 25, 2013, 02:58:06 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran goes to UW-Whitewater to play the Warhawks. Other half of the pod is Carthage and Thomas More.
Very favorable matchup for WLC. Coach Klay got the chance to scout UWW yesterday and he said that they have a good shot of beating them. I think it's possible for WLC to win both games this weekend.
Not a chance. I think UWW pounds them.
Not to rub it in but as I said UWW is/was clearly better. A huge negative about the new conference schedule for WLC is it reduces their ability to schedule some really tough non-con opponents. My thinking is if it is going to take an auto bid to get you in anyway and you're generally a good team you should schedule really tough non-con games to improve yourself and get a good idea where you stand nationally. Just a thought.
Quote from: gordonmann on June 07, 2013, 02:11:38 PM
Very good scheduling by WLC. The Warriors are a quality team that need to test themselves outside of conference to get ready for a potential NCAA tournament appearance. Given geography, they are going to play a WIAC team, Calvin or Hope, the CCIW champion or someone like that in the first round of the NCAA. They aren't going to get a test like that in conference so they should schedule aggressively.
Good to see we agree on this. :)
I'm pretty late with this comment but just as an aside I wanted to compliment WLC for the turnout and support shown by their fanbase in
WHITEWATER. I know the two schools are relatively close to one another but the numbers really surprised me. That was really a lot of support for the team. I made sure to compliment the athletic director after the game. You're fortunate to have that level of support.
Thanks, badgerwarhawk! :) :)
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Wisconsin Lutheran goes to UW-Whitewater to play the Warhawks. Other half of the pod is Carthage and Thomas More.
Very favorable matchup for WLC. Coach Klay got the chance to scout UWW yesterday and he said that they have a good shot of beating them. I think it's possible for WLC to win both games this weekend.
Not a chance. I think UWW pounds them.
Not to rub it in but as I said UWW is/was clearly better. A huge negative about the new conference schedule for WLC is it reduces their ability to schedule some really tough non-con opponents. My thinking is if it is going to take an auto bid to get you in anyway and you're generally a good team you should schedule really tough non-con games to improve yourself and get a good idea where you stand nationally. Just a thought.
Quote from: gordonmann on June 07, 2013, 02:11:38 PM
Very good scheduling by WLC. The Warriors are a quality team that need to test themselves outside of conference to get ready for a potential NCAA tournament appearance. Given geography, they are going to play a WIAC team, Calvin or Hope, the CCIW champion or someone like that in the first round of the NCAA. They aren't going to get a test like that in conference so they should schedule aggressively.
Good to see we agree on this. :)
I'm pretty late with this comment but just as an aside I wanted to compliment WLC for the turnout and support shown by their fanbase in WHITEWATER. I know the two schools are relatively close to one another but the numbers really surprised me. That was really a lot of support for the team. I made sure to compliment the athletic director after the game. You're fortunate to have that level of support.
The last few years when the Warriors made the NCAA's, there was a whole lot of support for the team wherever they ended up. I remember two years ago they went to Calvin and there was the need for two buses because fan support was high (I went along that time). After the game we had Calvin fans and parents come up to us and they were impressed at the support and they also said that we put their student section to shame.
I heard about this year's crowd and I was surprised to hear about the large turnout (then again short distance played a factor) on the social media (had to miss due to two tennis meets in Iowa). The 6th man rises to the occasion when it's a big game.
Though Maranatha is no longer in conference as of tomorrow- I'll remember that squad's last in-conference home game--a playoff win over Concordia-Chicago.
Methinks "my" Warriors are going to have a tougher time defending their title in '13-14. (round-robin scheduling and all).
Per NACC schedule:
Benedictine non-cons: (as of 7/8/13):
11/16 vs. Goshen
11/19 vs. Monmouth
11/26 at North Central-IL
Lakeland:
11/22 at Alma
11/26 at UW-Oshkosh
Lakeland:
11/15: Calvin
11/22: @Alma
11/26: @UW Oshkosh
12/16: @Maranatha
12/31: @Finlandia
Tough season opener against a good Calvin team. Challenging road game against an up and coming Oshkosh team.
Quote from: NACfan215 on July 10, 2013, 11:56:04 AM
Lakeland:
11/15: Calvin
11/22: @Alma
11/26: @UW Oshkosh
12/16: @Maranatha
12/31: @Finlandia
Tough season opener against a good Calvin team. Challenging road game against an up and coming Oshkosh team.
So Lakeland's going to ring in the new year in Hancock, Michigan. I hope they bring all their woolen gear and provisions for a few days. That and maybe a dogsled and team to take them home when the bus gets snowbound. ;)
Calvin will be down this year, so you might have a chance.
Well its officially the first day of practices. Suppose its about time to get some chatter going for the upcoming season...anyone care to give a preseason prediction?
Haven't got a full grasp on who is returning for anyone.
I think it will be:
1. Wisconsin Lutheran: They reload (graduation of Dillion will hurt them) but can anyone reel them back to the pack?
2. Concordia Wisconsin: CUW is never an easy out even for the Warriors.
3. Benedictine: They return everybody from their lineup last season.
After that it's anyone's guess to be honest.
I think it should be required that all teams have updated rosters online by the first official day of practice. Lol
Even if that practice starts at midnight?
Quote from: NACfan215 on October 16, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
I think it should be required that all teams have updated rosters online by the first official day of practice. Lol
That'd be nice (and I know you're tongue in cheek), but I know for most teams the first few days are still a tryout period for a lot of players. It'd be kind of cruel to post a kid's name on the website and then cut them two days later.
Makes sense Bill. I understand the reasoning behind it, just unfortunate we can't have roster with less than a month before the first game. Be nice to see what kind of turnover/upgrades have happened over the summer.
With that said, anyone have any inside info into any possible impact transfer this year? I know last year we had Kuehl, Genke and Gorman who all made impacts to their teams.
I'll give a shot at a preseason ranking, mainly based on last year's results and departing/returning players. I'll try and do updated rankings throughout the year (but forgive me if life gets in the way).
WLC- On top until someone knocks them off (although this year more likely than the last two), solid returners in the front court, can the backcourt replace 3 departing seniors in the backcourt? They have the experience to fill in the starters but then where is the depth? POY Candidate: Schultz
Benedictine- Returns the entire starting lineup and more from a team that went 11-6 in conference last year with a young and inexperienced lineup. This year they will go from young and talented, to talented and experienced. Probably the deepest team in the league this year (last year only 3 players played an avg of 20 mins/game or more and 10 players avg between 5-20 mins/game).
CUW- Lost a lot of veteran experience in the backcourt, where will the replacements come from? Not a lot of depth last year, will have to rely on a lot of younger players. Frontcourt is where the strength will be will two returning starters. POY Candidate: Luethe
Alverno- Top 5 scorers return from a team that surprised last year finishing 3rd in the North going 13-5. However those 5 are the only returning players on the roster with zero frosh/soph on last year's roster; will they be able to bring in enough players to fill the bench and provide quality minutes? If not look for this team to get gassed out most games. POY candidate: Gorman
Lakeland- Loss of first team all-conference Mayo will hurt the production, can they get better player from their guards and bench? They will need some players from last year's freshman group to step up with some more production to offset the losses. POY candidate: Eisner
CUC- Not a lot of losses to this roster that won 10 conference games last year. Return of Genke is key to this team, if they can find a couple more roll players to piece in around her they could see a big jump this year. Until then they need to be more consistent. POY Candidate: Genke
Edgewood- They lose their best player from a team that struggled to stay consistent last year. There is good depth on this team and if they can find a couple people to replace that production they should easily grab a playoff spots.
Rockford- Went with the JUCO route last year and seemed to help with their depth enough to pick up a couple extra wins and sneak into the playoffs. The loss of top player Lawler will hurt but everyone else returns. Sometimes it takes a year for JUCO players to transition but if they can continue to improve upon last year they might be able to gain a couple more wins, look for them to slide into the 8th playoff spot.
Marian- Return the entire roster from last year, but that might not be saying much, lack of size on the inside hurt them last year and will continue to hurt them this year unless they brought in some player with size who can play immediately. If relying on the 3 again this year they might upset a team or two when they get hot, but expect them to struggle as most teams look to shut them down from the perimeter.
MSOE- Another team that returns all their production from last year, but again not saying much for a team that finished at the bottom of the pack. More depth is needed on this team, they have a solid core of starters, but need players around them to be able to compete for 40 minutes. Dark horse POY Candidate: Kroll
Aurora- Maybe a new coach will bring new energy to a team that was very young last year, top 2 scorers were freshman. If the young players can build on their experience from last year they might be able to pick up a couple more wins, however I don't see much there to compete with the top dogs. Note, Freshman Marlow was second team in scoring and made All-Freshman team last year is not on roster currently?
Dominican- This team loses a lot of production and experience from a team that only won 1 conference game with 5 seniors graduating. There are few bright spots among the returning players, but not enough there to show major improvement, probably another year at the bottom.
Overall observation: I believe any of the top 5 teams could end up on top at the end of the year; there is not as much Star power across the board as there has been the last few years. Look for the standings to much more even this year than the top heavy results we have had in the past.
Feel free to comment/criticize any comments I have above, just like last year the final standings will probably look nothing like my predictions haha. But hey, I never said I was perfect. Lol
My 4 cents:
Edgewood: Loses starters Tobin, Walker and reserve Dixon to graduation-- psychological X-factor (if they get off to a good enough start in conference)-- this squad will definitely want to return to the NACC playoffs after seeinng Lakeland sneak in over them last year;
MSOE: (I risk overly speculating here) Noticed the '13-14 roster appeared larger--but again- as Just Bill noted earlier-- how much--if any-- does that roster shrink?
Marian: Another way talls could help-- possibly give Huray more of an opportunity for play-making (she went off for 27 pts vs. Edgewood last year)
WLC: Schultz statistically is the top returning shot-blocker from last season in the NACC. (One interesting Maranatha-related left-over-- last year prior to leaving the conference, the Crusaders had 3 players in the top 10 in blocked shots)-who'll also show that kind of D intensity this season? :-X :-X :-\ :-\
I agree with NACfan215's analysis.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2013, 06:58:03 AM
My 4 cents:
Edgewood: Loses starters Tobin, Walker and reserve Dixon to graduation-- psychological X-factor (if they get off to a good enough start in conference)-- this squad will definitely want to return to the NACC playoffs after seeinng Lakeland sneak in over them last year;
MSOE: (I risk overly speculating here) Noticed the '13-14 roster appeared larger--but again- as Just Bill noted earlier-- how much--if any-- does that roster shrink?
Marian: Another way talls could help-- possibly give Huray more of an opportunity for play-making (she went off for 27 pts vs. Edgewood last year)
WLC: Schultz statistically is the top returning shot-blocker from last season in the NACC. (One interesting Maranatha-related left-over-- last year prior to leaving the conference, the Crusaders had 3 players in the top 10 in blocked shots)-who'll also show that kind of D intensity this season? :-X :-X :-\ :-\
I agree with NACfan215's analysis.
I concur as well. Speaking of intensity on the court. I think the biggest loss for WLC is Dillion. She carried intense passion for the game on the court all four years (though sometimes it would get the best of her in certain situations). Never have seen a player as intense as here.
Noticed WLC has an updated roster posted now. Big thing of note is only 3 total frosh/sophs on the roster (1 soph/2 frosh). This seems to be cause for concern going into the next couple seasons for a Warriors team that has had a good run at the top????
Quote from: NACfan215 on October 23, 2013, 10:32:43 AM
Noticed WLC has an updated roster posted now. Big thing of note is only 3 total frosh/sophs on the roster (1 soph/2 frosh). This seems to be cause for concern going into the next couple seasons for a Warriors team that has had a good run at the top????
WLC has been picked to win the conference again by the Preseason Poll.
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 281 (18)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 264 (6)
3. Benedictine 226
4. Lakeland 190
5. Alverno 186
6. Edgewood 174
7. Concordia Chicago 169
8. Marian 104
9. Rockford 97
10. Aurora 74
11. MSOE 62
12. Dominican 45
Wisconsin Lutheran will be playing an exhibition game against Milwaukee (or UWM as I still call it) on Sunday. Milwaukee went 9-20 overall and 5-11 in the Horizon league last year.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 28, 2013, 05:25:34 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran will be playing an exhibition game against Milwaukee (or UWM as I still call it) on Sunday. Milwaukee went 9-20 overall and 5-11 in the Horizon league last year.
The school still is UWM. The athletic teams though go by Milwaukee. It's like Virginia Tech. The athletic teams go by Virginia Tech. The school is actually Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University.
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on November 02, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 28, 2013, 05:25:34 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran will be playing an exhibition game against Milwaukee (or UWM as I still call it) on Sunday. Milwaukee went 9-20 overall and 5-11 in the Horizon league last year.
The school still is UWM. The athletic teams though go by Milwaukee. It's like Virginia Tech. The athletic teams go by Virginia Tech. The school is actually Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University.
Never really saw the reason to do such for UWM and UWGB. Though CBS used "Wisconsin-Milwaukee" moniker when the Panthers made the NCAA's when Pearl was coaching.
Speaking of UWM and WLC, the Warriors trail the Panthers 33-30 with less than 3 minutes left in the 1st half.
UW-Milwaukee pulls away from WLC late in the second half winning 89-62. The Warriors were tied with the Panthers at half 36-36 and were within 5 with about 7 minutes remaining in the game but the Warriors faded down the stretch.
Alverno and Rockford also have exhibition matchups against Mount Mary and North Central (IL) respectively this Friday.
Opening Weekend is upon us!!
Friday 11/15
Calvin at Lakeland: Hard to be against a strong program like Calvin even if they are in a slightly down year.
Rockford at Chicago: Don't know much about either team but taking the Maroons.
Dominican at Knox: Stars could be in for another long year as they don't bring back much from last seasons one win team.
Saturday, 11/16
Rockford vs Coe (IA) or Illinois Tech: If Coe then I'm taking Coe, but if Illinois Tech I'll hedge my bets and take the Regents in a tight game.
Goshen (IN) at Benedictine: BU shouldn't have too many issues with their NAIA opponent.
Aurora at Monmouth (IL): The carousel that is the Aurora WBB coaching staff continued offseason. They are in for a long year.
Westminster (PA) at Dominican: No clue on the PA version of Westminster but they should have no problems here.
Concordia Wisconsin at Augustana: Good measuring stick game for the Falcons but it's hard not to bet against the CCIW here.
Loras at Edgewood: Barometer game for the Eagles.
Sunday 11/17
Dubuque at Edgewood: Same as Saturday's game.
My 11/15 guesses:
Calvin
U of Chicago (has more talls than Rockford, depends on how the Maroons use those talls)
Knox: (sounds like it could be a track meet if the Prairie Fire has few turnovers-)
11/16:
Rockford/IL Tech: IL Tech has a deeper bench, but the Regents have a height advantage-I'll go with Rockford in a tight one.
Goshen/Benedictine: Potential track meet #2, Goshen's already played a handful of games, but I'll go with the IL Eagles at home.
Aurora/Monmouth: Monmouth
Westminster-PA/Dominican: Westminster's got more experience coming back-(per their prospectus), going with the PA squad on this one.
CUW/Augustana-IL; Going with CUW, just to go against the grain
Loras/Edgewood: Iowa squad, again, has height advantage-going with Duhawks on the road.
11/17
Dubuque/Edgewood: Dubuque (on paper, more depth off bench)
WLCAlum, you nailed it on the head for the Dominican/Knox game.
Knox 105
Dominican 93
Calvin 65
Lakeland 45
Chicago 87
Rockford 45
Slow start for the NACC but not out of the ordinary with the competition they faced last night. Perhaps today will be the day the NACC teams pick up their first wins of the year.
What got me on the Stars/Prairie Fire match-up: A Knox erupted for 61 2nd half points B Knox also got boatloads of points off steals and Dominican turnovers.
(Wonder how much higher the final scores on the women's side will be--especially if more squads with enough bench depth go up-tempo with the new 10-second rule, anyway).
11/16 Scores
Rockford 90
Illinois Tech 34
Goshen 66
Benedictine 58
Monmouth 71
Aurora 58
Westminster (PA) 87
Dominican 58
Concordia Wisconsin 77
Augustana 58
Loras 80
Edgewood 67
11/19-11/21 Games
11/19
Marian at UW-Stout: Not sure what we've got in Marian this year.
Knox at Rockford: Going on a hunch.
Alverno at Illinois Tech: Illinois Tech will be taking their lumps this year as an Independent.
Mount Mary at Wisconsin Lutheran: WLC pounds a Mount Mary team that is back from a year hiatus.
Wheaton (IL) at Aurora: This will be over early.
Mounmouth (IL) at Benedictine: Was thinking about picking BU for this one but losing to Goshen over the weekend changed my mind.
11/20
Concordia Wisconsin at Carroll: Toss up.
Elmhurst at Dominican: This will be over by halftime.
11/21
Edgewood at Alverno: Edgewood is still a mystery to me. Going with the proven team here.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2013, 02:32:04 PM
11/19-11/21 Games
11/19
Marian at UW-Stout: Not sure what we've got in Marian this year.
Knox at Rockford: Going on a hunch.
Alverno at Illinois Tech: Illinois Tech will be taking their lumps this year as an Independent.
Mount Mary at Wisconsin Lutheran: WLC pounds a Mount Mary team that is back from a year hiatus.
Wheaton (IL) at Aurora: This will be over early.
Mounmouth (IL) at Benedictine: Was thinking about picking BU for this one but losing to Goshen over the weekend changed my mind.
11/20
Concordia Wisconsin at Carroll: Toss up.
Elmhurst at Dominican: This will be over by halftime.
11/21
Edgewood at Alverno: Edgewood is still a mystery to me. Going with the proven team here.
11/19:
UW-Stout
Knox
Alverno
WLC
Wheaton-IL
Monmouth
11/20:
CUW: (my "hunch")
Elmhurst
11/21:
Alverno in a tight one
Two 11/19/13 scores and observations:
Rockford 118, Knox 96 (Captain Joe's hunch was correct) Rockford: "I'll see Knox's 61 pt outburst against Dominican and raise them a 63 pt. 2nd half output of our own"
UW-Stout 89, Marian 74 (Sabers hit 15 3s in the game. Though Stout pulled away in the 2nd half, Jarvey had 5 blocked shots in her first start in a Marian uniform)
Seems that every game on Knox's schedule could be a shootout.
Alverno 83
Illinois Tech 27
Alverno held Tech to 36 total field goal attempts for the game (8/36).
Wheaton 74
Aurora 46
Aurora shot 24% for the game.
Monmouth (IL) 74
Benedictine 57
Sluggish first half doomed the Eagles.
Wisconsin Lutheran 104
Mount Mary 36
2nd highest point total for the Warriors in school history. Only thing that was a problem for them was 8/18 shooting from the charity stripe.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 20, 2013, 01:07:33 PM
Seems that every game on Knox's schedule could be a shootout.
Knox women are playing the Grinnell System. North Central (Ill.) women are playing a modified version of the system too.
Well WLCAlum we were right on both of our hunches.
Concordia Wisconsin 62
Carroll 57
Deciding factor was the free throws (CUW 18-28, Carroll 11-16)
Elmhurst 86
Dominican 47
NACC in-conference opener (Edgewood/Alverno) up shortly:
Half: Alverno 29, Edgewood 21
(Inferno got to the line a lot more in the first half--, Gorman 16 pts already)
Final: Alverno 70, Edgewood 61
(WI Eagle squad went on a 19-6 run to begin 2nd half, then the Inferno went on a run of its' own to take the lead for good and hit their free throws late to seal it.)
11/23 NACC in-conference guesses:
CUW @ CUC: (Falcons already have a couple of games under their belt)
Alverno @ Benedictine: (although this one could go either way if Gorman has another big scoring night and stays out of foul trouble)
Happy 50th Birthday to the Doctor Who Franchise!
11/22 Scores
Lakeland 81
Alma 73
UW-La Crosse 54
MSOE 53
UW-Platteville 81
Marian 77
Washington U (MO) 79
Wisconsin Lutheran 48
11/23 Matchups
Marian at UW-La Crosse: UW-L barely beat MSOE last night. I'm giving Marian the edge with their close loss to Platteville in the nightcap at Platteville last night.
UW-Whitewater at Edgewood: Eagles still have some growing pains to endure and Whitewater gets a big win.
Aurora at North Park: Barometer game for the Spartans.
Hope at Wisconsin Lutheran: Perhaps a closer game for the Warriors if they can limit the turnovers.
MSOE at UW-Platteville: Is MSOE better than advertised or is UW-L down this year? Either way I think they give Platteville a reasonably good game (Was going to say Hillmen since Platteville HS was in the D4 State finals for football).
Alverno at Benedictine: Barometer game for the IL Eagles. I think Gorman and company walk way with a solid win.
Concordia Chicago at Concordia Wisconsin: Falcons seem to be better than I thought they would be but the bigger tests come when they face WLC. They get the win over a decent CUC team.
CUW-CUC up shortly:
Half: CUC 26, CUW 24
(Cougars went on a 8-0 scoring run to end the half--CUW shot 23% from floor in 1st half)
Final: CUW 69, CUC 66 (Cougars had one last chance to tie it with a 3, but Genke's attempt from beyond the arc was blocked by Luethe)
WLC is heading to overtime against Hope 66-66. Klemm buried a 3 with 4 seconds remaining to tie it.
Wisconsin Lutheran falls short in their upset bid losing to #9 Hope 78-72. Impressive showing for the Warriors against a tough Hope team that has already beat Calvin on the road this year.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 23, 2013, 05:45:06 PM
WLC is heading to overtime against Hope 66-66. Klemm buried a 3 with 4 seconds remaining to tie it.
Klemm played a heck of a game, 26 pts inclduing 4-7 on 3's and required Hope's defensive attention the entire game, making Hope's denial and help defense less effective. Hope actually had her pretty well defended on the 3 at the end of regulation, but a shooter with a hot hand is going to get that 25 foot bank shot sometimes. I was very impressed with her play.
Quote from: Roundball999 on November 23, 2013, 06:56:18 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 23, 2013, 05:45:06 PM
WLC is heading to overtime against Hope 66-66. Klemm buried a 3 with 4 seconds remaining to tie it.
Klemm played a heck of a game, 26 pts inclduing 4-7 on 3's and required Hope's defensive attention the entire game, making Hope's denial and help defense less effective. Hope actually had her pretty well defended on the 3 at the end of regulation, but a shooter with a hot hand is going to get that 25 foot bank shot sometimes. I was very impressed with her play.
She has been making nice strides since coming back from a torn ACL a few seasons back. Along with Hoft the Warriors will have a nice perimeter duo heading into conference play.
Tuesday's Games:
Benedictine at North Central: Prove it to me Benedictine.
Albion at Dominican: DU has a ways to go yet.
Aurora at Webster: Still not sure on Aurora.
Lakeland at UW-Oshkosh: Titans are gunning for a WIAC title this year.
UW-Stevens Point at Marian: Over early....
Concordia Chicago at Loras: Could be close?
UW-La Crosse at Concordia Wisconsin: More surprised that CUC gave the Falcons everything they wanted and then some Saturday.
Thanksgiving Weekend Matchups
Aurora at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW keeps their nice start to the season going.
Rockford at MSOE: Honestly I think Rockford takes this. Both have been better than anticipated.
Dominican at Marian: Marian gets the home edge.
Benedictine at Edgewood: BU should win but won't count out Edgewood at the Edgedome.
Concordia Chicago at Lakeland: CUC is still a mystery yet.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Alverno: WLC gave Hope everything they want and then some last Saturday. WLC pulls away after a close first half.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 29, 2013, 12:35:51 PM
Thanksgiving Weekend Matchups
Aurora at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW keeps their nice start to the season going.
Rockford at MSOE: Honestly I think Rockford takes this. Both have been better than anticipated.
Dominican at Marian: Marian gets the home edge.
Benedictine at Edgewood: BU should win but won't count out Edgewood at the Edgedome.
Concordia Chicago at Lakeland: CUC is still a mystery yet.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Alverno: WLC gave Hope everything they want and then some last Saturday. WLC pulls away after a close first half.
I'll go with:
CUW
Rockford
Dominican in a tight one (depends on how well Marian's talls produce)
Benedictine
Lakeland (another tight one if the Cougars stay out of foul trouble)
WLC (Inferno are hoping to improve on FT shooting)
Joining Edgewood/Benedictine just underway:
Half: Benedictine 28, Edgewood 25
(IL Eagles-- 4 players have 2 fouls on them at the break)
(WI Eagles-- had more opportunities at the FT line)
Final: Edgewood 57, Benedictine 56
(Pope hit the game-winning shot with 2 seconds left)
WI Eagles-- Hill had a strong second half- 17 pts in all including 3 threes
IL Eagles-- Hamilton 22 pts
Good set of games on saturday, alot of close ones. Looks like we could be in for a tight race all season with a lot of parity between the teams. This might be the most balanced the conference has been in a few years, looking forward to how its all going to shake out. Another set of great games coming up wednesday.
MOSE v Marian - Ill take MSOE, playing much better, Marian can win if it shoots well from the three
Alverno v CUC - Toss up, Alverno has to show they can win on the road (2 great home wins so far), CUC if they can dominate the interior... Ill take Alverno
WLC v Lakeland - WLC off a tough loss, Lakeland starting to figure it out a little... Ill take WLC in a tough fought bounceback win
Edgewood v CUW - CUW off to a hot start although with some recent close wins, Edgewood up and down as usual... Ill take CUW on their home court
Rockford v Dominican - Rockford much improved and much more athletic than Dominican, still a long ways for Dominican to go... Rockford on the road
Benedictine v Aurora - Not really the start I was expecting from BenU, Aurora putting a few nice games together... Ill take Benu's depth on the road
Quote from: NACfan215 on December 02, 2013, 10:54:46 AM
Good set of games on saturday, alot of close ones. Looks like we could be in for a tight race all season with a lot of parity between the teams. This might be the most balanced the conference has been in a few years, looking forward to how its all going to shake out. Another set of great games coming up wednesday.
MOSE v Marian - Ill take MSOE, playing much better, Marian can win if it shoots well from the three
Alverno v CUC - Toss up, Alverno has to show they can win on the road (2 great home wins so far), CUC if they can dominate the interior... Ill take Alverno
WLC v Lakeland - WLC off a tough loss, Lakeland starting to figure it out a little... Ill take WLC in a tough fought bounceback win
Edgewood v CUW - CUW off to a hot start although with some recent close wins, Edgewood up and down as usual... Ill take CUW on their home court
Rockford v Dominican - Rockford much improved and much more athletic than Dominican, still a long ways for Dominican to go... Rockford on the road
Benedictine v Aurora - Not really the start I was expecting from BenU, Aurora putting a few nice games together... Ill take Benu's depth on the road
My guesses:
MSOE: (One key factor in the Sabers' win over Dominican is they had only 7 turnovers in that home win-question is-will that continue?) :-X :-\
Alverno: Cold shooting coming out of the gate in the first half has not helped CUC so far. I'm figuring Inferno momentum from that late rally they made to beat WLC will carry over.
Lakeland: Have to put my head above my heart on this one.
Edgewood: WI Eagles' Hill stepped it up in 2nd half last game--Spengler's been making her presence felt also. Another tight one here.
Rockford:
Benedictine: Hamilton's been playing strong-- I too, go with the IL Eagles on the road.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 03, 2013, 07:39:59 AM
Quote from: NACfan215 on December 02, 2013, 10:54:46 AM
Good set of games on saturday, alot of close ones. Looks like we could be in for a tight race all season with a lot of parity between the teams. This might be the most balanced the conference has been in a few years, looking forward to how its all going to shake out. Another set of great games coming up wednesday.
MOSE v Marian - Ill take MSOE, playing much better, Marian can win if it shoots well from the three
Alverno v CUC - Toss up, Alverno has to show they can win on the road (2 great home wins so far), CUC if they can dominate the interior... Ill take Alverno
WLC v Lakeland - WLC off a tough loss, Lakeland starting to figure it out a little... Ill take WLC in a tough fought bounceback win
Edgewood v CUW - CUW off to a hot start although with some recent close wins, Edgewood up and down as usual... Ill take CUW on their home court
Rockford v Dominican - Rockford much improved and much more athletic than Dominican, still a long ways for Dominican to go... Rockford on the road
Benedictine v Aurora - Not really the start I was expecting from BenU, Aurora putting a few nice games together... Ill take Benu's depth on the road
My guesses:
MSOE: (One key factor in the Sabers' win over Dominican is they had only 7 turnovers in that home win-question is-will that continue?) :-X :-\
Alverno: Cold shooting coming out of the gate in the first half has not helped CUC so far. I'm figuring Inferno momentum from that late rally they made to beat WLC will carry over.
Lakeland: Have to put my head above my heart on this one.
Edgewood: WI Eagles' Hill stepped it up in 2nd half last game--Spengler's been making her presence felt also. Another tight one here.
Rockford:
Benedictine: Hamilton's been playing strong-- I too, go with the IL Eagles on the road.
MSOE vs Marian: Give me the Raiders in a tight road win.
Alverno vs CUC: Inferno in a tight one. They needed a 24-8 run to stun WLC late and they have a decent CUC team against them.
WLC vs Lakeland: WLC collapsed late against Alverno....They really need to improve their free throw shooting. I think they take a tight road win over a solid Lakeland team.
Edgewood vs
CUW: Edgewood is too inconsistent to pull off the win.
Rockford vs Dominican: Rockford is the better team while DU is still figuring things out.
Benedictine vs Aurora: Eagles win comfortably here.
Final: CUW 72, Edgewood 41 (FG pct. Falcons 51%, WI Eagles 25%)
Look-in on Alverno/CUC: Cougars up by 3 with just over 3 minutes left in 2nd half--
(developing--)
EDIT: This one's going to OT-- they're tied at 65--
OT #2 coming up-- it's 73 all now--
OT #3 up, tied at 82-- Speerschneider hit a desperation 3 from half-court--
Final: Alverno 95, CUC 91 (Cougars' Koehler was the only experienced big-point producer they could use in the 3rd OT--Broska and Genke had fouled out in OT 2) Inferno hit late FTs to seal this road win.
Wisconsin Lutheran 70
Lakeland 56
Final
Schulz leads the Warriors with 20 points and 11 rebounds (3rd Double-Double in 5 games).
12/7 NACC docket:
Marian @ Rockford: Going with the Regents in a tight one
WLC @ Aurora: Warriors
Edgewood @ CUC: Edgewood in another tight one (CUC can take this if the Cougars can continue the point production they had against Alverno, but they need to take care of the ball better -- in one of the OT's they committed turnovers on 4 or 5 straight possessions.)
Lakeland @ Dominican: Muskies
MSOE @ Alverno: On paper, toughest in-NACC match-up thus far for MSOE-- going with the Inferno at home here.
CUW @ Benedictine: IL Eagles in another close one.
LC v WLC Review:
The lack of quality refing took away from what should have been a great game. The first half was exciting with both teams playing very hard and aggressive. Unfortunately the second have was marred by terrible refing as the refs were making up for numerous missed calls from the first half by calling a tight game in the second. 27 total fouls called, both teams were in the bonus with over 12:30 minutes left which really took away from the flow of the game and never allowed either team to get in a rhythm. This seemed to give WLC the advantage in making it mainly a half court game as LC never got to take advantage of their up-tempo pace and deep bench.
WLC 39% FG (46% 2nd half) 37% 3p FG – Hoft 5-6 threes 17 pts
LC 33% FG 23% 3p FG – Eisner 11 pts 10 boards
Any knowledge on why Taylor Bahr is not playing yet for Wisconsin Lutheran?
Quote from: 3MAPS on December 05, 2013, 01:23:36 PM
Any knowledge on why Taylor Bahr is not playing yet for Wisconsin Lutheran?
Not sure.....
Marian at Rockford: Give me the Regents again.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Aurora: Warriors put this one away early.
Edgewood at CUC: I think CUC takes this but they played gingerly in the extra periods against Alverno so EC has a shot here.
Lakeland at Dominican: Lakeland bounces back.
MSOE at Alverno: Will the team that ended WLC's NACC winning streak show up or will the one that lost to CUC show up?
CUW at Benedictine: Falcons in a tight one I guess?
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on December 05, 2013, 02:03:32 PM
Quote from: 3MAPS on December 05, 2013, 01:23:36 PM
Any knowledge on why Taylor Bahr is not playing yet for Wisconsin Lutheran?
Not sure.....
Marian at Rockford: Give me the Regents again.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Aurora: Warriors put this one away early.
Edgewood at CUC: I think CUC takes this but they played gingerly in the extra periods against Alverno so EC has a shot here.
Lakeland at Dominican: Lakeland bounces back.
MSOE at Alverno: Will the team that ended WLC's NACC winning streak show up or will the one that lost to CUC show up?
CUW at Benedictine: Falcons in a tight one I guess?
Alverno beat CUC in the 3 OT game, but to your point, Alverno has played very well at home (wins over WLC and EC) compared to their road games (Loss to BU and near loss at CUC). So, based on that I think Alverno wins easily at home.
Joining MSOE/Alverno in progress in first half:
Half: Alverno 33, MSOE 30
Final: Alverno 67, MSOE 54 (Inferno pulled away in the last 6 minutes--Speerschneider again hit several 3s)
(Look-in on 1 other game --CUW's up by 21 points over Benedictine with just under 9 minutes left in 2nd half)
As I try to thaw out from an unexpected trip to Lambeau for the Packers game, here are my predictions for this week's games.
12/10
MSOE at Edgewood: Though I think MSOE is the slight favorite in this one I think with the game at the Edgedome gives the Eagles the advantage in this one.
Rockford at Aurora: The Regents are playing decent ball so far. Aurora is killing themselves with stupid mistakes like getting into foul trouble early in games. Regents take a road win in this one.
Dominican at Alverno: Alverno is steadily becoming one of the contenders in the conference this year. The bigger question is can they take a win off of CUW like they did against WLC already this year. Dominican wishes that they could be competitive on a consistent basis. Alverno rolls.
12/12
Concordia Wisconsin at Lakeland: CUW has a nice 7-0 record. They have won the close games out of conference that plagued them the last few years. The bigger question for them is that can they finally solve the riddle that is WLC and take control of the conference race? Lakeland has the horses to compete with the top teams on a daily basis but it depends on their long range shooting. I take CUW in a nice road win.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on December 09, 2013, 01:05:49 AM
As I try to thaw out from an unexpected trip to Lambeau for the Packers game, here are my predictions for this week's games.
12/10
MSOE at Edgewood: Though I think MSOE is the slight favorite in this one I think with the game at the Edgedome gives the Eagles the advantage in this one.
Rockford at Aurora: The Regents are playing decent ball so far. Aurora is killing themselves with stupid mistakes like getting into foul trouble early in games. Regents take a road win in this one.
Dominican at Alverno: Alverno is steadily becoming one of the contenders in the conference this year. The bigger question is can they take a win off of CUW like they did against WLC already this year. Dominican wishes that they could be competitive on a consistent basis. Alverno rolls.
12/12
Concordia Wisconsin at Lakeland: CUW has a nice 7-0 record. They have won the close games out of conference that plagued them the last few years. The bigger question for them is that can they finally solve the riddle that is WLC and take control of the conference race? Lakeland has the horses to compete with the top teams on a daily basis but it depends on their long range shooting. I take CUW in a nice road win.
My guesses:
12/10-- Edgewood
Aurora
Alverno (Speerschneider's outside shot has been stuck on automatic of late)
12/12: CUW: (Didn't expect them to rout Benedictine-on the IL Eagles home floor yet--)
Halftime score:
Edgewood 30, MSOE 21
UPSET ALERT: MSOE 61, Edgewood 56 Final
Raiders were whistled for only 4 fouls in 2nd half, but got in the double bonus with plenty of time to spare in 2nd half--
Edgewood 6-7 on FTs
MSOE 19-24 on FTs
12/14 NACC Docket:
Rockford/WLC: Warriors take this one at home
Dominican/MSOE: Raiders get another win in a tight one, building off their mild upset of Edgewood
CUC/Marian: Toss-up; CUC's got more of a front line, but their big scorers need to stay out of foul trouble. Marian likes to hoist those 3s-- I'll go with the Cougars in a tight one-(They're due to get off the schneid anyway).
Aurora/Edgewood: WI Eagles rebound with a home win.
Benedictine/Lakeland: Another toss-up: Taking the Muskes at home, but the IL Eagles can take this if they can run and Lakeland has a cold-shooting day.
I'll take.....
WLC: Warriors keep on rolling.
MSOE: Stars may have a shot here but the Raiders are much improved.
CUC: Marian hasn't convinced me that they are better than last year.
Edgewood: Eagles bounce back against a struggling Spartan squad.
Lakeland: I agree with the toss up.
Was going to get this up earlier but I was helping a close friend move out of her apartment at WLC yesterday.
A few somewhat un-expectied finals and my comments on them:
Marian 58, CUC 56 (Sabers outshot CUC from the floor, attempted only 5 3s the entire game, Jarvey goes off for 16 points, Marian--40 pts in the paint)
Aurora 67, Edgewood 65 (Spartans' Jenkins hit a jumper with 5 seconds left for the win--they came back from a 15 pt 2nd half deficit for the win)
Benedictine 64, Lakeland 50 (IL Eagles: 40-25 rebounding advantage, 24-12 points in paint edge)
12/16-17/13 NACC guesses:
12/16: Alverno/CUW: Toss-up-- When CUW was jockeying for in-conference tourney posistioning last year, the Inferno knocked them off in Mequon-- I'm going with the Falcons at home.
12/17: Benedictine/CUC: IL Eagles-better bench depth
Dominican/Aurora: Spartans
(Joining CUC/Benedictine in progress):
Benedictine 38, CUC 28 Halftime
Final: Benedictine 76, CUC 72
(CUC, down 1, committed a costly over-and-back turnover with 25 seconds left, and after that, the IL Eagles hit their FTs to seal this one)
12/21/13 In-Conference docket:
Edgewood/Marian: Going with the WI Eagles on the road (Sabers have been cutting back on their beyond the arc attempts the last couplle of games)
Lakeland/MSOE: If no Raiders are lost to injury in the non-con vs. MBU, and they can establish enough of a presence inside and get to the line vs. the Muskies, I'll go with MSOE in a tight one. Lakeland can take this if that squad's outside shots fall.
CUC/Rockford: Going with the Regents at home in another toss-up. Cougars have to be wondering what the "h e double toothpicks" they have to do to get in the win column. They can take this if they get off to a fast start offensively.
CUW/WLC: Last time the Falcons were on the Warriors' home floor, they were routed in the '13 Tournament Final. They'll put up a better showing, but WLC prevails in another close one.
12/19
North Central (IL) at Dominican: Stars can't keep up with the system.
MSOE at Maranatha: Close game but I think the Raiders will take this one on the road.
12/20
Benedictine vs Gettysburg (PA): Gettysburg plays good basketball.
Alverno vs Randolph: Just a guess.
12/21
Guilford vs Benedictine: BU goes winless down in Florida
Alverno vs Dubuque: Toss up.
Edgewood at Marian: Edgewood should win but they have disappointed recently.
Lakeland at MSOE: Muskies seem to be over reliant on the long ball but they get a close win on the road.
Concordia Chicago at Rockford: Cougars finally get their first win of the year.
Concordia Wisconsin at Wisconsin Lutheran: The last time these two met, WLC put the game away early as they went to the NCAA tournament. CUW comes in at 9-0 and have beat Alverno (which WLC lost to). However they have not beat the Warriors since 2011. I think WLC ends CUW's unblemished run here.
Joining Edgewood/Marian just underway:
Edgewood 29, Marian 27 1 sec left 1st half
Wisconsin Lutheran 53
Concordia Wisconsin 36
10:30 2nd
Final: Edgewood 62, Marian 57 (Wi Eagles used a 10-3 scoring run over the last 2 minutes or so to take this one).
Wisconsin Lutheran (6-3, 4-1 NACC) 71
Concordia Wisconsin (9-1, 6-1 NACC) 56
Final
Same story for CUW against WLC. Get in a double digit hole early, make a comeback but fade away late. Warriors led 40-24 at the break and extended their lead to 49-28 in the second half before CUW made a rally to cut it to 13 but that's how close they got for the rest of the game. With the loss, CUW is tied in the loss column with MSOE, and WLC but has a half game lead on the Raiders atop the NACC.
Speaking of MSOE, the Raider women beat Lakeland 61-55.
Per PBP account a Denfield basket with 1:25 left gave MSOE the lead for good. MSOE shot 55% from the floor in the second half (compared to the Muskies' 39%) to get the win.
CUC/Rockford up shortly:
Half: CUC 28, Rockford 27
Final: Rockford 71, CUC 68
(Cougars hit 9 3s on the game, but ironically Rockford's Getzelman hits one of her own with 31 seconds left-- it holds up when a last second 3 by Koehler misses)
So 2013 is about to come to a close here's where the NACC Standings and some thoughts.
1. Concordia Wisconsin 9-1 (6-1): Falcons 9-0 run including a few solid wins out of confernce was a nice surprise. However they still can't figure out how to beat WLC. They have two shots (one in the tournament) to figure them out.
2. MSOE 7-4 (5-1): The turnaround that the Raiders have pulled this year is nothing short of awesome. MSOE won two games last year and they have nearly quadrupled it before year's end.
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 6-3 (4-1): Well the NACC winning streak is over, but the Warriors nearly pulled off the biggest upset in school history after pushing then #9 Hope to the limit falling in overtime.
4. Alverno 7-4 (5-2): The Inferno did something that no one had done for a year plus in the NACC, and that was beat WLC.
5. Benedictine 4-7 (4-2): Was expecting a bit more but the Eagles are turning it around as of late.
6. Marian 3-7 (3-2): Sabres have been a mystery team so far.
7. Aurora 4-6 (3-3): Spartans are showing signs of improvement as the year came to a close.
8. Edgewood 3-8 (3-4): Eagles still trying to make some upward progress after the last few years but seemed to be stuck in neutral.
The Rest:
9. Lakeland 4-6 (2-4): Muskies have faded as of late. Can they turn it around in 2014?
10. Rockford 4-6 (2-4): Solid start could be slipping away from the Regents. Can they get the upward push needed to make the NACC Tournament?
11. Dominican 0-11 (0-6): The Stars are looking at their two games against Concordia Chicago as their only chances to break into the win column.
12. Concordia Chicago 0-8 (0-7): The Cougars have to be wondering what it will take for them to win a game. They have a decent roster to contend for a upper half finish but the bounces have not gone their way.
MSOE"s a good case in point to show what a difference good bench depth can make.
Marian: (more to Captain Joe's point) Hit 12 three's vs. Rockford, didn't attempt anywhere near that many vs. CUC. Sabers' Jarvey's been making her presence felt. Next few NACC games (Benedictine, Alverno, WLC) figure to be tougher.
1/4/2014 guesses:
Benedictine/Marian: A) Which offense will Marian show up with? B) Will Benedictine match Hamilton up with Jarvey should the Sabers decide to try to repeatedly work the ball down low? Going with the IL Eagles in a tight one.
CUW/Rockford: After Clark's big scoring output vs. CUC --similar question for her vs. Falcons' talls. Falcons get a win on the road.
Dominican/WLC; Warriors
CUC/MSOE: More of the Cougar's bench players got more playing time vs. Southern Maine over the break. Pick; MSOE.
Aurora/Lakeland: Toss-up- going with Lakeland only because the Muskies are at home.
Alverno/Edgewood: Inferno sweep the regular season series by taking another tight one.
1/4 Picks
Benedictine: Seems that IL Eagles are the safer bet but it depends if which Benedictine shows up.
Concordia Wisconsin: Falcons bounce back with a big win on the road.
Wisconsin Lutheran: This will be over quickly. WLC is hitting their stride while Dominican hasn't been close this year.
MSOE: The Raiders take this one at home. Concordia's hard luck season continues.
Lakeland: They should win but they have faded as of late so it's not a lock.
Alverno: Inferno takes this one in the Edgedome.
Alverno's up on Edgewood, 16-12 with 10 3/4 min left in 1st half as I join it--
Alverno 31, Edgewood 31 Half
One other update: MSOE 41, CUC 25 Half
(Cougars' Genke did not play against Southern Maine, and has not played as yet in today's game as per first half box score--
Developing--)
Final: Edgewood 66, Alverno 56 (Inferno's Gorman picked up her 4th foul midway thru 2nd, while she sat, Edgewood forced several Inferno turnovers and took a lead that wouldn't be relinquished. ) WI Eagles had 5 players score in double figures (and Hill wasn't one of them--)
Final: MSOE 91, CUC 62 (Cougars' Genke did not play in 2nd half, either)
Other NACC Scores from yesterday:
Concordia Wisconsin 69
Rockford 56
Benedictine 74
Marian 60
Aurora 70
Lakeland 53
NACC Standings
1. Concordia Wisconsin 10-1 (7-1)
2. MSOE 8-4 (6-1)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 7-3 (5-1)
4. Benedictine 5-7 (5-2)
5. Alverno 8-5 (5-3)
6. Aurora 5-7 (4-3)
7. Edgewood 4-9 (4-4)
8. Marian 3-8 (3-3)
9. Rockford 5-7 (2-5)
10. Lakeland 5-7 (2-5)
11. Dominican 0-12 (0-7)
12. Concordia Chicago 0-11 (0-8)
1/7/14 guesses:
MSOE/Aurora: Toss-up-- going with Spartans at home (when Dorrington and Jenkins score a lot of points on the same night--)
Lakeland/Rockford: Toss-up #2 --Muskies on a hunch.
CUC/CUW; Falcons
Marian/Alverno: Inferno get back on the winning track
WLC/Benedictine: IL Eagles have enough bench depth they can run at the Warriors--it'll come down to who controls the tempo-- IL Eagles hand WLC its' 2nd NACC road loss in a tight one.
Edgewood/Dominican: WI Eagles
Marian 32, Alverno 21 Approx 4 min left 1st half
Marian 39 Alverno 28 Half
Alverno 78, Marian 66 Final
1/9/14 guess:
Marian/WLC: Warriors -- moreso if they can repeatedly run on the Sabers.
Lakeland/Rockford going into OT tied at 59--
Final: Rockford 70, Lakeland 63 (Cold shooting did the Muskies in in the OT)
As expected, WLC knocked off Marian at home, so the Warriors are now in 2nd, 2 games behind CUW in the win column.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 09, 2014, 10:18:45 PM
Final: Rockford 70, Lakeland 63 (Cold shooting did the Muskies in in the OT)
As expected, WLC knocked off Marian at home, so the Warriors are now in 2nd, 2 games behind CUW in the win column.
And that WLC game was a beatdown. WLC started the game on a 16-0 run and led 44-10 at the half. They limited Marian to 4/25 shooting in the first half and held them to 20.8% shooting for the game.
1/11 Games
Rockford at Marian: Taking the Regents on the road.
Benedictine at Concordia Wisconsin: Could go either way. If Benedictine wants a statement win, they could do it against CUW but it won't be easy on the road.
Aurora at Wisconsin Lutheran: If last night was anything, Aurora could be in a rough day against WLC. Warriors roll to a seventh straight win.
Concordia Chicago at Edgewood: The season got away from CUC. Edgewood looks to move up in the standings and they do it here.
Dominican at Lakeland: Muskies get a much needed win against a struggling Dominican squad.
Alverno at MSOE: GOTD (Game of the Day). MSOE keeps pace with WLC and CUW at the top in a tight game.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 10, 2014, 02:41:07 PM
1/11 Games
Rockford at Marian: Taking the Regents on the road.
Benedictine at Concordia Wisconsin: Could go either way. If Benedictine wants a statement win, they could do it against CUW but it won't be easy on the road.
Aurora at Wisconsin Lutheran: If last night was anything, Aurora could be in a rough day against WLC. Warriors roll to a seventh straight win.
Concordia Chicago at Edgewood: The season got away from CUC. Edgewood looks to move up in the standings and they do it here.
Dominican at Lakeland: Muskies get a much needed win against a struggling Dominican squad.
Alverno at MSOE: GOTD (Game of the Day). MSOE keeps pace with WLC and CUW at the top in a tight game.
I'll go with:
Rockford (moreso if they can run the break on Marian)
Benedictine (after getting blown out by the Falcons at home, the IL Eagles get even in Mequon.
WLC (game figures to be closer than the other night, Warriors still get the win)
Edgewood (this squad's getting some momentum of late)
Lakeland (talls need to stay out of foul trouble-Muskies had to be careful with Eisner in the OT vs, Rockford the other night)
MSOE (will need to limit Gorman's activity on the glass--this could go either way)
1/18 Games
Rockford at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW handles Rockford at home.
MSOE at Concordia Chicago: Raiders rolls on past downtrodden CUC.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Dominican: WLC has no problem with lowly Dominican.
Lakeland at Aurora: Toss up. Going with the Spartans at home.
Marian at Benedictine: BU takes care of an inconsistent Marian squad.
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Well no games for the rest of the week but here is the Friday/Saturday games.
1/24
Concordia Chicago vs Concordia Ann Arbor: This will be over by halftime.
Concordia Nebraska vs Concordia Wisconsin: I think CUW has a shot of ending the DIII Concordia's losing streak to the NAIA Concordia's but outside of the WLC game (which they were soundly defeated) they haven't been tested up to this point. Taking the Bulldogs in a tight one.
1/25
Concordia Wisconsin vs Concordia Chicago (CIT): Over by halftime again.
Alverno at Marian: Inferno shouldn't have much issue here.
Aurora at MSOE: Raiders continue to stay tied with rival Alverno for third in the conference.
Rockford at Lakeland: Must win for Lakeland? being two games out of the final conference tournament spot with ten conference games left it could be.
Dominican at Edgewood: Eagles march their way towards the .500 mark.
Benedictine at Wisconsin Lutheran (Winterfest): BU could give WLC fits for a while but as it is Winterfest (one of the bigger attended games of the season), WLC pulls away in the second half.
With the win last night, Wisconsin Lutheran takes control of the NACC race (plus the head to head tiebreaker if they slip up down the stretch).
NACC Standings
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 14-3 (12-1)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 16-3 (12-2)
3. MSOE 12-7 (10-4)
4. Alverno 12-7 (9-5)
5. Edgewood 9-10 (9-5)
6. Benedictine 8-10 (8-5)
7. Aurora 9-10 (8-6)
8. Lakeland 8-11 (5-9)
9. Rockford 8-11 (5-9)
10. Marian 4-15 (4-10)
11. Concordia Chicago 1-18 (1-13)
12. Dominican 0-19 (0-14)
Race for the NACC Tournament
1. WLC --
2. Concordia Wisconsin -0.5 GB
3. MSOE -2.5 GB
4. Alverno -3.5 GB
5. Edgewood -3.5 GB
6. Benedictine -4.0 GB
7. Aurora -4.5 GB
8. Lakeland -7.5 GB (Has tiebreaker over Rockford with strength of conference wins)
9. Rockford -7.5 GB (-0.0 GB)
10. Marian -8.5 GB (-1.0 GB)
11. Concordia Chicago -11.5 GB (-4.0 GB)
12. Dominican -12.5 GB (-5.0 GB)
Wisconsin Lutheran and Concordia Wisconsin also have clinched conference tournament spots. MSOE could clinch a spot with a win and a Rockford and Lakeland loss.
Remaining conference games:
WLC: vs Alverno, at Marian, at Benedictine, vs Concordia Chicago, vs Edgewood, at Rockford, at MSOE
CUW: at Aurora, vs Lakeland, vs Dominican, vs MSOE, at Alverno, at Marian
MSOE: at Rockford, vs Edgewood, vs Benedictine, at Concordia Wisconsin, at Dominican, vs Wisconsin Lutheran
Alverno: at Wisconsin Lutheran, at Dominican, vs Lakeland, at Rockford, vs Concordia Wisconsin, vs Aurora
Edgewood: at Benedictine, at MSOE, vs Rockford, at Wisconsin Lutheran, at Aurora, vs Lakeland
Benedictine: vs Edgewood, vs Concordia Chicago, vs Wisconsin Lutheran, at MSOE, at Dominican, vs Lakeland, vs Rockford
Aurora: vs Concordia Wisconsin, at Rockford, at Marian, vs Concordia Chicago, vs Edgewood, at Alverno
Lakeland: at Concordia Chicago, at Concordia Wisconsin, at Alverno, vs Marian, at Benedictine, at Edgewood
Rockford: vs MSOE, vs Aurora, at Edgewood, vs Alverno, vs Wisconsin Lutheran, at Benedictine
Marian: at Dominican, vs Wisconsin Lutheran, vs Aurora, at Lakeland, at Concordia Chicago, vs Concordia Wisconsin
Concordia Chicago: vs Lakeland, at Benedictine, at Wisconsin Lutheran, at Aurora, vs Marian, vs Dominican
Dominican: vs Marian, vs Alverno, at Concordia Wisconsin, vs Benedictine, vs MSOE, at Concordia Chicago
Massey ratings has the teams going in this direction in the final conference games:
WLC: 7-0
CUW: 6-0
MSOE: 4-2
Alverno: 4-2
Edgewood: 2-4
Benedictine: 5-2
Aurora: 4-2
Lakeland: 2-4
Rockford: 0-6
Marian: 1-5
Concordia Chicago: 2-4
Dominican: 0-6
Standings if Massey ratings play out:
WLC: 21-3 (19-1)
CUW: 22-3 (18-2)
MSOE: 16-9 (14-6)
Alverno: 16-9 (13-7)
Edgewood: 11-14 (11-9)
Benedictine: 13-12 (13-7)
Aurora: 13-12 (12-8)
Lakeland: 10-15 (7-13)
Rockford: 8-17 (5-15)
Marian: 5-20 (5-15)
Concordia Chicago: 3-22 (3-17)
Dominican: 0-25 (0-20)
A few other side notes:
Congrats to CUC on their first win of the season!
Player Notes:
Genke - CUC - out since end of first semester, apparently academically ineligible 2nd semester.
Kroll – MSOE – out remainder of the year with torn ACL
Boteva – Alverno – missed last three games, no longer on team roster per team website
2 of those (Kroll and Boteva) could have an effect on the overall standings by the end of the year.
I second those congrats to the Cougar squad-- sounds like Young had one of her better games and a couple of the freshmen also stepped it up-- Rockford's Clark (who had a career scoring day in the first matchup) was held to only 7 points in the rematch
My 2/1 guesses:
Alverno/WLC: Warriors get even for the Inferno handing them their only in-conference loss so far
Marian/Dominican: Marian
Lakeland/CUC: Lakeland
MSOE/Rockford: MSOE
Edgewood/Benedictine: Toss-up, going with IL Eagles at home
CUW/Aurora: CUW
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 31, 2014, 10:40:14 AM
I second those congrats to the Cougar squad-- sounds like Young had one of her better games and a couple of the freshmen also stepped it up-- Rockford's Clark (who had a career scoring day in the first matchup) was held to only 7 points in the rematch
My 2/1 guesses:
Alverno/WLC: Warriors get even for the Inferno handing them their only in-conference loss so far
Marian/Dominican: Marian
Lakeland/CUC: Lakeland
MSOE/Rockford: MSOE
Edgewood/Benedictine: Toss-up, going with IL Eagles at home
CUW/Aurora: CUW
My picks:
WLC: Warriors have been chomping at the bit since the Inferno stunned WLC in the conference opener. They get payback at the REX.
Marian: Sabres keep their faint conference tournament hopes alive with a win.
Lakeland: CUC has played reasonably better as of late but Muskies are still have something to play for.
MSOE: Rockford has the toughest conference slate of the teams that are in the hunt. MSOE should take this even with Kroll out for the season.
Benedictine: Toss up. WI Eagles have been winning closely lately and BU pushed WLC on the road. I'll take the IL Eagles.
CUW: Falcons held WLC to 29% shooting Wednesday but WLC found a way to win via the chairity stripe (23/36 for WLC and 3/15 for CUW). CUW bounces back with a win.
Wisconsin Lutheran 68
Alverno 60
Final
Alverno nearly pulled off the upset again. They erased a 13 point deficit and took a lead late in the game. However, WLC didn't break and grinded out a W. Brittany Bahr put the game on ice with a three with 7 seconds left in the game. Kristin Schulz led all scores with 27 points. WLC improves to 15-3 overall and 13-1 in the NACC.
Surprised of the night:
Rockford 87
MSOE 79
2/8 guesses:
Aurora/Marian: Aurora
CUC/WLC: WLC (potential trap game--CUC upset Benedictine--Koehler went off for 24 pts- hitting several 3s in that game process)
Dominican/CUW: CUW
Benedictine/MSOE: Toss-up, going with MSOE on a hunch
Rockford/Edgewood: WI Eagles in a tight one
Lakeland/Alverno: Inferno
Aurora: critical game to determine who's in and who's out of the conference tournament.
WLC: Warriors hit the mute button on the CUC's hottest shooter.
CUW: Dominican's season to forget is almost over.
MSOE: BU is fading.....
Edgewood: Though Rockford is playing with renewed purpose lately.
Alverno: Though the Muskies are fighting for their postseason lives.
Saturday's Scores
Wisconsin Lutheran 71
Concordia Chicago 49
Concordia Wisconsin 90
Dominican 52
Alverno 71
Lakeland 61
Edgewood 74
Rockford 65
Benedictine 66
MSOE 52
Aurora 57
Marian 44
NACC Standings
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 18-3 (16-1) X
2. Concordia Wisconsin 19-3 (15-2) X
3. Edgewood 11-10 (11-5) X
4. Alverno 14-8 (11-6) X
5. MSOE 12-10 (10-7) X
6. Aurora 11-11 (10-7) X
7. Benedictine 9-12 (9-7)
8. Rockford 9-13 (6-11)
9. Lakeland 8-13 (5-11)
10. Marian 5-17 (5-12)
11. Concordia Chicago 2-19 (2-14)
12. Dominican 0-22 (0-17)
X: Clinched NACC Tournament Spot
Technically, I don't think Benedictine has clinched, but they are almost certain to.
They clinch with a win and/or Lakeland loss.
NACC Tournament seedings are very well on the line with less than five conference games left.
Clinched NACC Tournament Spots: WLC, CUW, Edgewood, MSOE, Alverno, Aurora
Still in the hunt: Rockford, Marian, Lakeland, Benedictine
Eliminated: Concordia Chicago, Dominican
Seeds:
WLC: Can clinch top seed with two wins (Has head to head tiebreaker over CUW).
CUW: Can clinch top seed with winning out and two WLC losses. Can clinch second seed with win and/or Edgewood loss.
Race for #3 Seed
1. Edgewood 11-5 (Split with Alverno, leads season series w/ BU 1-0, trails season series w/ AU 0-1, split with MSOE, trails season series with Aurora 0-1)
2. Alverno 11-6 (-0.5) (Split with Edgewood, has strength of win tiebreaker with WLC win, lost season series with BU 0-2, has head to head tiebreaker over MSOE)
3. MSOE 10-7 (-1.5) (Split with Edgewood, lost season series with Alverno 0-2, Split with Aurora, Split with BU)
4. Aurora 10-7 (-1.5) (Leads season series with Edgewood 1-0, Spilt with MSOE, lost season series with BU 0-2)
5. Benedictine 9-7 (-2.0) (Head to head tiebreaker over Aurora and Alverno , trails season series with Edgewood 0-1, Split with MSOE)
Remaining Schedules
EC: at WLC, at Aurora, at Benedictine, vs Lakeland
AC: at Rockford, vs Concordia Wisconsin, vs Aurora
MSOE: at Concordia Wisconsin, at Dominican, vs Wisconsin Lutheran
Aurora: vs Concordia Chicago, vs Edgewood, at Alverno
Benedictine: at Dominican, vs Lakeland, vs Edgewood, vs Rockford
Race for the 8th Seed
Rockford 6-11 (Split with Lakeland, Split with Marian)
Lakeland 5-11 (-0.5) (Split with Rockford)
Marian 5-12 (-1.0) (Split with Rockford, has strength of victory tiebreaker)
Remaining Games
RC: vs Alverno, vs Wisconsin Lutheran, at Benedictine
LC: vs Marian, at Benedictine, at Concordia Chicago, at Edgewood
MU: at Lakeland, at Concordia Chicago, vs Concordia Wisconsin
Wisconsin Lutheran makes their season debut in the top 25 poll receiving a single vote. Won't be surprised to see CUW in the also receiving votes category soon if enough turnover happens.
2/12 Matchups
Marian at Lakeland: This puts one team in a position to maybe pass up Rockford while the other one is in a boatload of trouble.
MSOE at Concordia Wisconsin: If not for a major key injury to one of their key players, the Raiders would've had a shot of taking down CUW. Alas CUW wins here.
Edgewood at Wisconsin Lutheran: WLC gets one step closer to clinching the regular season title and the top seed.
Alverno at Rockford: Rockford has a mountain to climb to make the conference tournament.
Benedictine at Dominican: Eagles punch their bid into the conference tournament.
Concordia Chicago at Aurora: Spartans are very much in the hunt for the third seed.
Does someone know why it shows Rockford as having the tie breaker over Marian in the standings as they both sit at 6-12? Since they split the season series wouldnt the next tie breaker go to the best in conference win based on the standings, which would go to Marian with a win over #3 seed Alverno at this point? Unless i am looking at something wrong.
Wednesday's Scores
Wisconsin Lutheran 65
Edgewood 64
Schulz saves the Warriors with a game winning layup at the buzzer.
Marian 66
Lakeland 63 OT
Marian get's a leg up over the Muskies in overtime in a win which very well put them in the conference tournament.
Alverno 85
Rockford 72
Regents fall into a mess for the final NACC tournament spot.
Benedictine 68
Dominican 53
Eagles clinch a NACC tournament spot.
Aurora 73
Concordia Chicago 57
Spartans remain in the hunt for the third seed.
Concordia Wisconsin 84
MSOE 60
MSOE is in a tailspin.
NACC Standings as of today.
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 19-3 (17-1) X
2. Concordia Wisconsin 20-3 (16-2) X
3. Alverno 15-8 (12-6) X
4. Edgewood 11-11 (11-6) X
5. Aurora 12-11 (11-7) X
6. Benedictine 10-12 (10-7) X
7. MSOE 12-11 (10-8) X
8. Marian 6-17 (6-12)
9. Rockford 9-14 (6-12)
10. Lakeland 8-14 (5-12)
11. Concordia Chicago 2-20 (2-15)
12. Dominican 0-23 (0-18)
X: Clinched NACC Tournament Spot
I do not see anything that should say otherwise so Marian has the tiebreaker over Rockford at the present time.
In the first regional rankings WLC is ranked 5th behind #6 Wash U (18-2), #9 Carthage (20-2), #11 UW-Whitewater (20-3), and #17 UW-Oshkosh (20-2) and ahead of UW-Stevens Point (15-7), Illinois Wesleyan (15-7), and Cornell (17-3)
Saturday's Matchups
Marian at Concordia Chicago: Marian gets one step closer to clinching the final spot in the NACC Tournament with a close road win.
MSOE at Dominican: Even burdened by injuries, MSOE gets a big road win over lowly Dominican.
Edgewood at Aurora: After losing a heartbreaker to WLC, Edgewood somehow finds a way to win a close game.
Lakeland at Benedictine: Lakeland is in desparation mode. BU is looking to improve their seeding.
Concordia Wisconsin at Alverno: Well can Alverno make it two wins against the top two teams in the NACC? That depends.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Rockford: WLC wraps up the top overall seed (have head to head tiebreaker) at the expense of Rockford's NACC tournament hopes.
Quote from: NACfan215 on February 13, 2014, 10:05:13 AM
Does someone know why it shows Rockford as having the tie breaker over Marian in the standings as they both sit at 6-12? Since they split the season series wouldnt the next tie breaker go to the best in conference win based on the standings, which would go to Marian with a win over #3 seed Alverno at this point? Unless i am looking at something wrong.
The NACC standings don't reflect tiebreakers at all until they put seeding numbers on it. Rockford is listed higher simply because their overall record is a better winning percentage. The standings sort themselves automatically by NACC record, overall record, alphabetically, in that order.
2/16, 18 guesses:
2-16: Edgewood/Benedictine: Toss-up--I'll go with WI Eagles
Lakeland/CUC: Muskies
2-18: WLC/MSOE: Warriors-want to keep momentum going into NACC tournament
CUW/Marian: CUW
Dominican/CUC: Cougars get a win at home
Rockford/Benedictine: IL Eagles
Lakeland/Edgewood: WI Eagles
Aurora/Alverno: Inferno pull out a tight one at home.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 16, 2014, 11:22:41 AM
2/16, 18 guesses:
2-16: Edgewood/Benedictine: Toss-up--I'll go with WI Eagles
Lakeland/CUC: Muskies
2-18: WLC/MSOE: Warriors-want to keep momentum going into NACC tournament
CUW/Marian: CUW
Dominican/CUC: Cougars get a win at home
Rockford/Benedictine: IL Eagles
Lakeland/Edgewood: WI Eagles
Aurora/Alverno: Inferno pull out a tight one at home.
WLC: Warriors enter the NACC tournament on a strong note.
CUW: Alverno did what WLC did to CUW twice. Play smothering D. CUW bounces back.
CUC: Cougars put the Stars out of their misery.
BU: Regents NACC Tournament hopes are finally put out.
Edgewood: Eagles gain at least one home game for the tournament.
Alverno: Inferno finish the daily double by beating WLC and CUW once in the regular season. They take care of Aurora.
Well, well, 2 of Dominican's top scorers went off for a combined 50 pts to knock off CUC and keep from taking the total regular season O-fer in the NACC.
My NACC 1st round guesses:
I'm going with all the higher seeds. (BenU/Edgewood winner could very well make it interesting for WLC in the 2nd round-I don't expect the Warriors to go flat vs.Marian)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 20, 2014, 01:32:44 PM
Well, well, 2 of Dominican's top scorers went off for a combined 50 pts to knock off CUC and keep from taking the total regular season O-fer in the NACC.
My NACC 1st round guesses:
I'm going with all the higher seeds. (BenU/Edgewood winner could very well make it interesting for WLC in the 2nd round-I don't expect the Warriors to go flat vs.Marian)
True. However after reaching the NACC Tournament Final two years ago, the Stars have gone a combined 2-48. Hopefully they can make a move upward in the near future.
My picks are:
WLC: Congrats Marian on making the NACC Tournament....Your opponent? The three time defending NACC Tournament champs.
Edgewood: Eagles find a way to win another close game.
Alverno: Inferno are hitting on all cylinders. MSOE is way too banged up to make a run.
Concordia Wisconsin: Falcons should win this handily.
My NACC semi-final guesses:
CUW
Edgewood in an upset of WLC (which would put the Eagles in the tourney final for the first time since Megan Scheele was still in uniform for them)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 23, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
My NACC semi-final guesses:
CUW
Edgewood in an upset of WLC (which would put the Eagles in the tourney final for the first time since Megan Scheele was still in uniform for them)
My Picks:
Concordia Wisconsin: If the inferno want to break the WLC-CUW final (Which has been the case for a few years sans 11-12 season), they have to do it on the road.
WLC: Can't see WLC dropping this game. Yes Edgewood came really close to knocking them off at WLC last time but, if the Warriors stick to what they have been doing this season, they'll advance. The ten point win over Marian was a little deceiving. They got out to a 38-19 halftime score and coasted.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 23, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
My NACC semi-final guesses:
CUW
Edgewood in an upset of WLC (which would put the Eagles in the tourney final for the first time since Megan Scheele was still in uniform for them)
Look at you playing reverse psychology games... :)
Quote from: Just Bill on February 24, 2014, 12:21:56 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 23, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
My NACC semi-final guesses:
CUW
Edgewood in an upset of WLC (which would put the Eagles in the tourney final for the first time since Megan Scheele was still in uniform for them)
Look at you playing reverse psychology games... :)
It worked.
Wisconsin Lutheran 72
Edgewood 55
Edgewood was up 35-32 at half but WLC took command in the second half outscoring Edgewood 40-20 in the second half. Schulz with 19 points and 16 boards.
It was the other matchup that was upset city.
Alverno 74
Concordia Wisconsin 64
Final-OT
Alverno denies CUW their third NACC Tournament Final appearance in four years with a big road win.
My NACC Tournament Final Pick:
Alverno (19-8, 14-6) at Wisconsin Lutheran (23-3, 19-1): This is Alverno's first time in the NACC title game. WLC has been there and done that. WLC get's their fourth straight NCAA Tournament appearance but not without a fight from Alverno.
Wisconsin Lutheran 60
Alverno 57
Final
No team led the other by no more than nine points during the entire game. Alverno got out to a 12-4 run to start the game taking advantage of cold shooting by the Warriors. However WLC managed to keep Alverno from running away with the game and had several chances to take the lead but turnovers and shots that refused to go down plauged them. By the end of the half they took a 28-25 lead into the lockerrooms. The second half was more of the same early on with cold shooting but WLC battled and took a nine point lead halfway through the game. However, Alverno refused to go away and roped in WLC within a few points before WLC took an eight point lead with less than two minutes remaining. The Inferno nearly pulled off another stunning comeback draining two threes with less than a minute left capitalizing on missed free throws by WLC. There was no overtime for the Inferno as their game-tying three point clanged off the rim with 4.5 seconds left and WLC ran the clock out for their fourth straight NACC Tournament Title.
Kristen Schulz led all scores with 18 points and nabbed 18 rebounds for another double-double. Devon Gorman led the Inferno with 14 points. WLC shot 39.7% for the game while Alverno shot 33.3%. Alverno finishes the season at 19-9 which their 19 wins is a school record for them while the Warriors go to 24-3 and wait to find out who they play tomorrow.
In the Women's mock bracket Wisconsin Lutheran is slated to play Ohio Northern in the Carthage pod. The winner plays Carthage or Spalding.
Rusty Rogers is the new Head Coach at Concordia Chicago.
http://www.naccsports.org/sports/wbkb/2013-14/releases/201404141a0clk
Here is the NACC Non-Cons for the year.
Alverno
11/15 @ UW-La Crosse
11/16 vs Mount Mary College (at UWL)
11/22 @ UW-Platteville
12/29 vs Northland
12/30 vs UW-Superior
Aurora
11/15 @ Beloit
11/21 @ Wheaton (IL)
11/22 vs Wittenberg (at Wheaton)
11/26 vs North Park (IL)
12/30 vs Elmhurst
Benedictine
11/15 vs Albion
11/18 @ Monmouth (IL)
11/26 vs North Central (IL)
Concordia Chicago
11/15 vs Lawrence
11/19 vs Illinois-Springfield
1/30 vs Concordia Nebraska (at CUC)
1/31 vs TBD (at CUC)
Concordia Wisconsin
11/15 vs Augustana (IL)
11/17 vs Beloit
1/30 vs Concordia (MI) (at CUC)
1/31 vs TBD (at CUC)
Dominican
11/15 @ Webster
11/16 vs Spaulding (at Webster)
11/20 vs Kalamazoo
12/30 @ Illinois Tech
Edgewood
11/15 vs Loras (at Dubuque)
11/16 @ Dubuque
11/25 vs UW-Oshkosh
12/28 vs Wesley (at San Juan, PR)
12/29 vs Colby-Sawyer (at San Juan, PR)
Lakeland
11/15 @ Calvin
11/25 vs UW-Stevens Point
12/30 @ Central (IA)
12/31 @ Nebraska Wesleyan
1/31 vs Maranatha
Marian
11/19 @ Lawrence
11/22 vs Mount Mary
11/25 @ Ripon
12/29 vs UW-Superior
12/30 vs Northland
MSOE
11/25 vs Lake Forest
12/11 vs Maranatha
12/17 vs Illinois Tech
12/29 @ Cal Tech
12/30 vs Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (at Cal Tech)
Rockford
11/15 @ Cornell
11/16 vs Mount Mercy (IA) (at Cornell)
11/25 @ Knox
12/16 vs Augustana (IL)
12/30 vs Beloit
Wisconsin Lutheran
11/21 vs DePauw
11/22 vs George Fox
12/19 vs Wells
12/20 @ Rowan
2014-15 NACC Preseason Coaches' and SIDs' Poll
1. Wisconsin Lutheran (24), 288
2. Concordia Wisconsin, 249
3. Edgewood, 220
4. Benedictine, 217
5. MSOE, 199
6. Aurora, 177
7. Lakeland, 124
8. Alverno, 114
9. Marian, 111
10. Rockford, 84
11. Concordia Chicago, 55
12. Dominican, 34
This is about what I had as well, although I have MSOE slightly higher in the 3rd and maybe even 2nd spot, I think they will be strong this year and compete for the top spot.
Also, I dont see Alverno making the playoffs this year, after losing 86% of their scoring and not bring much in this year there will be a steep drop off and I dont see them finishing ahead of the likes of Marian and Rockford.
POY - Schulz - WLC
Dark Horse Candidate - Denfeld - MSOE
Conference Champ, WLC (until someone proves they can knock them off) - However, I think there will be more parity among the playoff teams this year.
Looking forward to the first week of non-conference games to see how some of the NACC teams stack up.
I think this year there will be one very good team (WLC), three or four solid teams (CUW, BU, EC, maybe MSOE) and the rest will be a toss up. I think Alverno will be rebuilding but not like DU.
1. WLC: Knueppel will have Schulz as the go to scorer. Question is where will other consistent scoring come from?
2. CUW: It is never wise to discount the Falcons but not one player on their roster really stands out.
3. Edgewood: Could be a toss up with the next few teams. I think WI Eagles have improved as of late.
4. Benedictine: IL Eagles have a bit of production but can they break into the top 3 of the NACC?
5. MSOE: They could be better but moving up will be tough.
6. Marian
7. Aurora
8. Alverno
9. Lakeland
10. Rockford
11. Concordia Chicago
12. Dominican
CUC opens up the new season with a 95-57 rout of Lawrence. Cougars go 15-33 from long distance.
It'll be interesting to see how CUC's new talls are worked into the rotation. The last several seasons when Marian relied on the 3 a lot, that Fond du Lac squad got into the NACC playoffs, but it was 1 and done for them after that.
Been a little behind the pace when it comes to NACC basketball.
11/15 Scores
Calvin 61 Lakeland 48
Concordia Chicago 95 Lawrence 57
Beloit 78 Aurora 71
Albion 68 Benedictine 54
Concordia Wisconsin 61 Augustana (IL) 54
Dubuque 94 Edgewood 79
Cornell 81 Rockford 40
UW-La Crosse 85 Alverno 45
Webster 70 Dominican 51
11/16 Scores
Loras 99 Edgewood 71
Alverno 67 Mount Mary 50
Spalding 81 Dominican 45
Mt. Mercy 93 Rockford 56
NACC went 3-10 this weekend......not good but not out of the ordinary with the teams some of them faced.
Weekday predictions (Monday-Thursday)
11/17
Beloit at Concordia Wisconsin: Aurora hung with the Bucs in a close game. I think the Falcons should win at home here.
11/18
Benedictine at Monmouth (IL): Eagles drop another one.
11/19
Ill-Springfield at Concordia Chicago: It won't matter how many three's CUC makes in this one against a DII foe.
Marian at Lawrence: I was on the fence for this one untill CUC air raided Lawrence from three.....Sabres get win number one.
11/20
Kalamazoo at Dominican: MIAA goes 3-0 against the NACC on the hardwood.
Alverno at Edgewood: Edgewood can score but can they play D? Eagles take it at home.
I noticed over the weekend that Aurora's returning leading scorer and first team all-conference player from last year Bethany Dorrington (SO last season) is not on the roster, this could deter Aurora from repeating last seasons success.
Also, two players who were named all-freshman team- Tori Riechers - CUW and Alyssa Hernandez - Dominican - are also not on this years rosters.
Saturday's Scores
Non-Conference
Capital 65 Benedictine 52
Wittenberg 89 Aurora 35
Marian 73 Mount Mary 28
UW-Platteville 82 Alverno 52
George Fox 65 Wisconsin Lutheran 58
Standings as of 11/23/14
1. Edgewood 1-2 (1-0)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 2-0 (0-0)
3. Marian 2-0 (0-0)
4. Concordia Chicago 1-1 (0-0)
5. MSOE 0-0 (0-0)
6. Lakeland 0-1 (0-0)
7. Wisconsin Lutheran 0-2 (0-0)
8. Rockford 0-2 (0-0)
9. Dominican 0-3 (0-0)
10. Aurora 0-3 (0-0)
11. Benedictine 0-4 (0-0)
12. Alverno 1-3 (0-1)
11/29 Matchups
Edgewood at Benedictine: Eagles seem to be the better team at this point.
Alverno at Wisconsin Lutheran: No upset here. WLC uses to close losses to nationally ranked teams to their advantage.
Lakeland at Concordia Chicago: Something tells me CUC surprises Lakeland at home.
Marian at Dominican: Stars are in for another long season.
Concordia Wisconsin at Aurora: CUW rolls.
MSOE at Rockford: Raiders win big on the road.
NACC Standings as of 12/3/14
1. Concordia Chicago 3-1 (2-0)
2. Marian 4-0 (1-0)
3. MSOE 2-0 (1-0)
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 1-2 (1-0)
5. Benedictine 1-5 (1-0)
6. Concordia Wisconsin 3-1 (1-1)
7. Edgewood 1-4 (1-1)
8. Lakeland 0-3 (0-1)
9. Rockford 0-4 (0-1)
10. Aurora 0-5 (0-1)
11. Dominican 0-5 (0-1)
12. Alverno 1-2 (0-2)
Tonight's Matchups
Alverno at Concordia Chicago
Rockford at Dominican
MSOE at Marian
Benedictine at Aurora
Edgewood at Concordia Wisconsin
Wisconsin Lutheran at Lakeland
Should be straightfoward. MSOE-Marian looks to be the best game of the bunch.
Marian beat MSOE
WLC lost at Lakeland
CUC won.
Little Surprised by Marian over MSOE. Nothing major stuck out at me aside from the number of fouls, (49 combined). Only other thing was 23 to 14 advantage Marian had in turnovers.
LC played a very effecient game in beating WLC, limiting themselves to only 8 turnovers, shooting 44% from the field, 43% from 3pt range (10-23), and 81% from the line (although only shooting 11 FT compared to WLC 25, and it wasnt even that close as the FT difference was 23-4 with 2 minutes left in the game). Schulz had 23 and 16, although taking her 22 shots (8-22) to get there (7-8 FT), LC played solid straight up defense forcing her into tough shots. WLC outrebounded LC 44-30, collecting 21 Offensive boards. WCL not shooting terribly either at 37%/38%/71%
CUC continues their surprising dominance in the early conference season. beating an overmatched Alverno team at home. It wil be interesting to see CUC in their first road challenge of the year saturday heading to a tough Edgewood team.
Rockford over Dominican big as expected, another long season for the Stars
Closer than expected BU win over Aurora, AU up 2 at halftime, limited to 19 points in the second. Really only 1 or 2 scoring threats for AU with Koski and Marks. Still havent figured out BU, will be nice to see a matchup between BU and CUW this weekend, good game to see where both teams stand.
CUW with a comfortable win over Edgewood.
Well I didn't think WLC was going to run the table at the beginning of the year. They have to find another reliable scorer outside of Schulz to keep opponents from keying their defenses on her.
The surprising thing is they are shooting 48% from 3 point land on the season. Also, Bahr is out for a couple weeks which seems to take away that second reliable person at the moment. I am a little intrigued to see how they match up against CUC and their what I would consider "40 minutes of chaos" (similar to a VCU or Wichita State).
Saturday's Matchups
Dominican at Lakeland: Muskies make it two straight after their upset of WLC.
Concordia Chicago at Edgewood: I think EC finds a way to slow down the high octane Cougar attack.
Aurora at Wisconsin Lutheran: Lowly Spartans run into a bunch of angry Warriors.
Benedictine at Concordia Wisconsin: Surprisingly, I am not too confident in CUW here at home.
Rockford at Marian: Sabres should win here.
Alverno at MSOE: MSOE should be the better team here.
WLC 63
Aurora 58
Final
Wasn't even thinking of being at the game but I couldn't find South Division high school (where the Terry Porter Classic was) but I decided to come here.
Even if you take out Kristin Schulz's 36 points (which put her over 1,000 points for her career 16th WLC WBB player to do such) and Aurora's Shannon Koski's 33 points, WLC beat Aurora 27-25. There were times where WLC could've broken the game wide open but they kept hurting themselves with turnovers and missed easy shots.
Other NACC Scores
Lakeland 72 Dominican 42
Edgewood 81 Concordia Chicago 58
Benedictine 74 Concordia Wisconsin 62
MSOE 52 Alverno 42
Standings
1. Marian 6-0 (3-0)
2. Benedictine 3-5 (3-0)
3. Concordia Chicago 4-2 (3-1)
4. MSOE 3-1 (2-1)
5. Wisconsin Lutheran 2-3 (2-1)
6. Lakeland 2-3 (2-1)
7. Concordia Wisconsin 4-2 (2-2)
8. Edgewood 2-5 (2-2)
9. Rockford 1-5 (1-3)
10. Aurora 0-7 (0-3)
11. Dominican 0-7 (0-3)
12. Alverno 1-6 (0-4)
Thoughts:
Marian is 6-0......but they have faced teams that are combined 6-28. Let's see how they face against teams like WLC, CUW, BU etc....
CUC got taken to the woodshed (Better than UW did tonight) by a decent EC squad. Not to surprised.
WLC needs Bahr to get healthy.....Schulz will shoulder the burden but others need to step up (Chladek, Frey, Gartner...) to help out. Defensively they are good but they need to minimize offensive errors.
To be honest, I felt that CUW was somewhat in a rebuild mode heading into this year but right now I have to see more results.
Aurora has Koski to score buckets but they aren't going to win many games without help.
At least Alverno has a win over Mount Mary.
DU has not been close......being outscored by 27 ppg. Closest M.O.D? 19 points. Yeesh
I thought CUC was very beatable, but i wasnt expecting them to get blown out the way they did with as high flying as that offense has been, road games are always tough.
just an odd game between WLC and AU, probably wouldnt have been to exciting to watch without Schultz and Koski. Going forward teams just need to shut down Koski and AU will be in for a long year.
I still think Marians only good win comes against MSOE at home, but even that isnt looking as impressive. The next 3 games should tell us a lot more about Marian (CUC, WLC and Edgewood)
Benedictine is tough no matter where you play them. CUW just doesnt have as many weapons as in previous years.
DU is just bad, simply put, probably time for a change down there after seasons end.
Two intrigueing matchups tomorrow, CUW @ LC and MSOE @ Edgewood.
NACC Standings as of 12/12/14
1. Marian 6-0 (3-0)
2. Benedictine 3-5 (3-0)
3. MSOE 5-1 (3-1)
4. Concordia Chicago 4-2 (3-1)
5. Wisconsin Lutheran 2-3 (2-1)
6. Concordia Wisconsin 5-2 (2-2)
7. Lakeland 2-4 (2-2)
8. Edgewood 2-6 (2-3)
9. Rockford 1-6 (1-3)
10. Aurora 1-7 (1-3)
11. Alverno 2-6 (1-4)
12. Dominican 0-8 (0-4)
Saturday Matchups
Edgewood at Aurora: Edgewood has a few reliable scorers.....Aurora just has Koski.
Concordia Chicago at Marian: First big test for Marian. I don't think they pass.
MSOE at Dominican: Over by half.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Rockford: WLC should win comfortably here.
Lakeland at Benedictine: BU has looked strong in league play. Lakeland has consistency issues.
Concordia Wisconsin at Alverno: CUW bounces back.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on December 12, 2014, 01:15:17 PM
Edgewood at Aurora: Edgewood has a few reliable scorers.....Aurora just has Koski.
and Dorrington. Dorrington has returned to the team and dropped 30 in her first game back.
Saturday's Scores
Aurora 64 Edgewood 51
Marian 80 Concordia Chicago 52
MSOE 78 Dominican 63
Benedictine 68 Lakeland 39
Concordia Wisconsin 63 Alverno 49
Wisconsin Lutheran 72 Rockford 56
NACC Standings as of 12/14/14
1. Marian 7-0 (4-0)
2. Benedictine 4-5 (4-0)
3. MSOE 6-1 (4-1)
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 3-3 (3-1)
5. Concordia Wisconsin 6-2 (3-2)
6. Concordia Chicago 4-3 (3-2)
7. Lakeland 2-5 (2-3)
8. Aurora 2-7 (2-3)
9. Edgewood 2-7 (2-4)
10. Alverno 2-7 (1-4)
11. Rockford 1-7 (1-4)
12. Dominican 0-9 (0-4)
Marian will finally find out how good they are when they take on WLC this week. I still think WLC will win this one handily.....IMO Knueppel's girls have been battle tested of out conference (nearly knocking off two top 25 teams in their home invite) and have rebounded nicely after that Lakeland loss.
Well I think the big topic of the day is Schulz from WLC going down last night early in the matchup against Marian (Marian was up 10 at the time), it only appeared to be a sprained ankle, but thats just an educated guess based on seeing it. Depending on the severity of the sprain it can sometimes take a few weeks to return, especially for bigs who seem to take longer to return. Fortunately for them its leading up to xmas break and will give her some extra time to recover. Regarding the game, I am actually surprised WLC fought back for the win after Schultz went down giving Marian their first loss of the season, shooting 11-20 from 3 pt range really helped, as well as an 11 point advantage at the FT line (C. Pendergrass 14-15). It was a high scoring game ending up 87-83, 5 WLC players in double digits, let my Pendergrass 23, 4 Marian Players in double digits let my Olewinski 24.
This leaves only one undefeated team in conference play and that is Benedictine who eeked out an 8 point win at CUC last night (thought this would be a much bigger win the way BU has been playing and after CUC seemed to cool off after its early season hot streak). However this game was at CUC where they were previously undefeated (0-2 on the road with average margin of loss by 25.5). Either way BU seems to be the team to beat this year as they seem to be the most complete team, excellent guard play, solid interior play, ferocious defense, deep bench and alot of athleticism.
DU with another 20 points loss.
A big matchup tomorrow night for conference standings between LC and CUC, CUC won big in the first matchup at home, but now have to go on the road (where they havent played well) to LC.
Saturday is the final set of conference matchups before the holiday break with three pretty important games: LC @ MSOE, Edgewood @ Marian, Aurora @ CUW.
Hopefully it won't be that bad. Kinda hurts them when they go down to Florida to play Rowan and Wells but at least their next game after that is not untill the 3rd against Dominican. Great that the bench stepped up in the game.
NACC Standings after 12/16
1. Benedictine 5-5 (5-0)
2. Marian 7-1 (4-1)
3. MSOE 6-1 (4-1)
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 4-3 (4-1)
5. Concordia Wisconsin 7-2 (4-2)
6. Concordia Chicago 4-4 (3-3)
7. Aurora 3-7 (3-3)
8. Lakeland 2-5 (2-3)
9. Edgewood 2-7 (2-4)
10. Rockford 1-8 (1-4)
11. Alverno 2-7 (1-5)
12. Dominican 0-10 (0-6)
Have noticed there is a decent top half to the NACC this year which has not been the case for years.
12/17-20 Matchups
12/17
Illinois Tech at MSOE: Raiders will have a field day against winless Scarlet Hawks.
12/18
Concordia Chicago at Lakeland: CUC bounces back.
12/19
Wells (NY) vs Wisconsin Lutheran (at St. Petersburg, Florida): WLC finds a way to win without Schulz.
12/20
Rowan vs Wisconsin Lutheran (at St. Petersburg, Florida): This is where Schulz being down with the ankle injury will hurt WLC against a good Rowan team.
Dominican at Illinois Tech: NACfan, if you thought Dominican is struggling take a look at Illinois Tech's scores. Dominican earns a close first win.
Lakeland at MSOE: MSOE shuts down Muskies.
Edgewood at Marian: Let's see how the Sabres respond after losing their first game of the year. Edgewood isn't an easy out.
Concordia Chicago at Rockford: CUC enter's X-mas break with a nice win.
Aurora at Concordia Wisconsin: Kinda a stretch to say toss up for Brunner-Jones's squad but if AU can give WLC fits, I think they can do the same here.
Alverno at Benedictine: BU remains undefeated in conference play.
Here is the Massy Ratings for the rest of the week's matchups.
Today, 12/18
Lakeland 68 (62%)
Concordia Chicago 64 (38%)
Friday, 12/19
Wisconsin Lutheran 84 (99%)
Wells 52 (1%)
Saturday, 12/20
Wisconsin Lutheran 72 (61%)
Rowan 68 (39%)
Illinois Tech 66 (50%)
Dominican 55 (50%)
Marian 71 (71%)
Edgewood 64 (29%)
MSOE 68 (83%)
Lakeland 56 (17%)
Concordia Chicago 72 (58%)
Rockford 69 (42%)
Concordia Wisconsin 66 (86%)
Aurora 53 (14%)
Benedictine 64 (89%)
Alverno 49 (11%)
Wisconsin Lutheran (5-3) 48 41: 89
Wells (NY) (2-4) 23 22: 45
All Warriors in this one. WLC shot 53% for the game and held Wells to 29% defensively. A good sign for the Warriors is that Schulz did play today scoring 12 points and getting 18 rebounds. The coach's daughter Caitlin Knueppel led all scores with 15 points. Jessilyn Artaho was the only Wells player to reach double figures with 10 points. WLC plays Rowan (8-1) tomorrow.
1st Half Stats
Shooting %
WLC: 15/26 (57.7%) (7/14 3pt)
Wells: 10/29 (34.5%) (3/5 3pt)
Free Throws
WLC: 11/17 (64.7%)
Wells: 0/0 (0%)
2nd Half Stats
Shooting%
WLC: 18/36 (50.0%) (4/12 3-pt)
Wells: 6/25 (24.0%) (0/2 3-pt)
Free Throw %
WLC: 1/1 (100%)
Wells: 10/11 (90.1%)
Dominican 62 Illinois Tech 49 (Stars earn first win of the year)
Wisconsin Lutheran 76 Rowan (NJ) 70 (WLC with a nice win over a good opponent)
MSOE 75 Lakeland 63
Concordia Chicago 76 Rockford 66
Edgewood 62 Marian 54 (Marian loses it's second straight game)
Concordia Wisconsin 66 Aurora 47
NACC Standings as of 12/21/14
1. Benedictine 5-5 (5-0)
2. MSOE 8-1 (5-1)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 6-3 (4-1)
4. Concordia Wisconsin 8-2 (5-2)
5. Marian 7-2 (4-2)
6. Concordia Chicago 6-4 (5-3)
7. Edgewood 3-7 (3-4)
8. Aurora 3-8 (3-4)
9. Lakeland 2-7 (2-5)
10. Alverno 2-7 (1-5)
11. Rockford 1-9 (1-5)
12. Dominican 1-10 (0-6)
Scoring Offense
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 73.9
2. MSOE 72.2
3. Concordia Chicago 71.6
4. Marian 71.56
5. Concordia Wisconsin 68.5
6. Edgewood 64.5
7. Benedictine 64.3
8. Lakeland 59.78
9. Rockford 59.3
10. Dominican 52.72
11. Aurora 51.36
12. Alverno 49.78
Scoring Defense
1. MSOE 54.89
2. Concordia Wisconsin 55.1
3. Marian 55.56
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 61.2
5. Benedictine 64.3
6. Alverno 66.22
7. Aurora 66.81
8. Lakeland 67.67
9. Concordia Chicago 68.1
10. Edgewood 71.2
11. Dominican 73.18
12. Rockford 79.0
Early Week Matchups
Today, 12/29
Edgewood vs Colby-Sawyer (at San Juan, PR): Another 0-fer in non-conference play for the Eagles.
UW-Superior at Marian: Marian loses their third straight.
Northland at Alverno: I think Alverno gets a close win.
MSOE at Caltech: Caltech wishes they can compete with D3 schools on a consistent basis.
Tuesday, 12/30
Concordia Chicago at St. Catherine: Just can't go with the Cougs here.
Lakeland at Central (IA): Dutch roll.
Elmhurst at Aurora: Aurora is improving but they are over their heads here.
Northland at Marian: Sabres snap their slide.
UW-Superior at Alverno: Superior is improved.
Beloit at Rockford: Rockford's struggles continue.
MSOE vs Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (at Caltech): Raiders keep winning.
Wednesday, 12/31
Lakeland at Nebraska Wesleyan: Toss up.
NACC Scores from the holiday break.
12/29
Edgewood 63 Colby-Sawyer 44
UW-Superior 71 Marian 55
Alverno 82 Northland 51
MSOE 61 Caltech 60
12/30
Concordia Chicago 87 St. Catherine 78
Central (IA) 63 Lakeland 59
Elmhurst 87 Aurora 52
Marian 77 Northland 20
UW-Superior 78 Alverno 45
Rockford 76 Beloit 66
C-M-S 89 MSOE 63
12/31
Nebraska Wesleyan 69 Lakeland 45
NACC Standings as of 1/1/15
1. Benedictine 5-5 (5-0)
2. MSOE 9-2 (5-1)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 6-3 (4-1)
4. Concordia Wisconsin 8-2 (5-2)
5. Marian 8-3 (4-2)
6. Concordia Chicago 7-4 (5-3)
7. Edgewood 4-8 (3-4)
8. Aurora 3-9 (3-4)
9. Lakeland 2-9 (2-5)
10. Alverno 3-8 (1-5)
11. Rockford 2-9 (1-5)
12. Dominican 1-10 (0-6)
NACC is 20-34 in non-conference play.
1/6 Scores
Wisconsin Lutheran 77
Benedictine 60
Marian 62
Alverno 59
Edgewood 68
Dominican 36
Concordia Wisconsin 75
Concordia Chicago 68
Lakeland 81
Rockford 73
MSOE 55
Alverno 51
NACC Standings as of 1/6
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 8-3 (6-1)
2. Benedicitine 6-6 (6-1)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 10-2 (7-2)
4. MSOE 10-3 (6-2)
5. Marian 9-4 (5-3)
6. Concordia Chicago 8-5 (6-4)
7. Edgewood 6-8 (5-4)
8. Aurora 4-10 (4-5)
9. Lakeland 3-10 (3-6)
10. Alverno 3-10 (1-7)
11. Rockford 2-11 (1-7)
12. Dominican 1-12 (0-8)
One interesting thing I noticed when reviewing recent scores, is that Brook McBain has now played 5 games for Alverno since the end of the first semester. The same Brook McBain who started 27 games for Edgewood last year as a sophomore and scored 10 ppg. Should be a nice little boost for an Alverno team who has been struggling.
Saturday's Scores
Wisconsin Lutheran 62 Aurora 38 (Coach Knueppel's 200th career win)
Concordia Chicago 96 Edgewood 80
Lakeland 70 Dominican 41
Rockford 74 Marian 64
Benedictine 69 Concordia Wisconsin 53
Alverno vs MSOE later tonight.
1/14 Scores
Alverno 84 Lakeland 75
Edgewood 71 Rockford 62
Wisconsin Lutheran 89 Concordia Chicago 68
Aurora 69 Marian 60
Concordia Wisconsin 66 Dominican 46
Benedictine 58 MSOE 46
NACC Standings as of 1/14
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 10-3 (8-1)
2. Benedictine 8-6 (8-1)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 11-3 (8-3)
4. MSOE 11-4 (7-3)
5. Concordia Chicago 9-6 (7-5)
6. Edgewood 7-9 (6-5)
7. Marian 9-6 (5-5)
8. Aurora 5-11 (5-6)
9. Lakeland 4-11 (4-7)
10. Alverno 4-11 (2-8)
11. Rockford 3-12 (2-8)
12. Dominican 1-14 (0-10)
1/17 Matchups
Aurora at Lakeland: Lakeland is sliding, Aurora is playing .500 ball since starting 0-6.
Concordia Chicago at MSOE: Best game of the day. CUC has a tough job ahead but it won't surprise me if they take the win here.
Benedictine at Marian: Marian's strong start (7-0) is now a distant memory (2-6).
Dominican at Wisconsin Lutheran: A few weeks ago WLC nearly dropped 100 on the Stars. Expect this one to be similar.
Concordia Wisconsin at Rockford: CUW compounds on Rockford's tough season.
Bye: Edgewood, Alverno
NACC Standings as of 1/22/14
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 12-3 (10-1)
2. Benedictine 10-6 (10-1)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 13-3 (10-3)
4. MSOE 12-5 (8-4)
5. Concordia Chicago 10-7 (8-6)
6. Marian 10-7 (6-6)
7. Edgewood 7-10 (6-6)
8. Lakeland 5-12 (5-8)
9. Aurora 5-13 (5-8)
10. Rockford 4-13 (3-9)
11. Alverno 4-12 (2-9)
12. Dominican 1-16 (0-12)
Tonight's Matchup
Concordia Wisconsin at Wisconsin Lutheran: Warriors enter a part of their schedule where they face CUW twice with a road game against conference co-leader Benedictine within a week's span. CUW will find it tough to stop Schulz and company at the REX.
Today's Games
Wisconsin Lutheran at Benedictine: CUW's D gave WLC fits but WLC shut down CUW with their D to get a half game ahead of BU. If WLC wins this and their game at CUW next week, then it will be very hard for anyone to hunt them down.
MSOE at Aurora: Something tells me MSOE is vulnerable and AU has played respectable basketball after starting 0-6.
Edgewood at Dominican: Basketball this year for Dominican has been one to forget.
Lakeland at Rockford: Toss up. Muskies are trying to get the number on that WLC truck that ran them over Tuesday.
Marian at Alverno: This could go either way. Alverno has played better ball as of late.
Byes: Concordia Wisconsin, Concordia Chicago
Stupid Computer issues have kept me away.
Grats to Coach Brunner-Jones on winning her 200th game a few days ago.
NACC Standings
1. WLC 16-4 (14-2) x
2. Benedictine 14-7 (14-2) x
3. CUW 16-5 (12-4) x
4. MSOE 16-5 (12-4) x
5. Concordia Chicago 12-9 (9-7)
6. Marian 12-9 (8-8)
7. Edgewood 9-12 (8-8)
8. Lakeland 7-14 (6-10)
9. Aurora 6-15 (6-10)
10. Rockford 5-16 (4-12)
11. Alverno 5-16 (3-13)
12. Dominican 1-20 (0-16) Z
Saturday's Games
Concordia Chicago at Wisconsin Lutheran (Winterfest): Warriors took their frustration out on Marian on Tuesday. They roll on Winterfest. Wish I did not have tennis season opener that day.
MSOE at Benedictine: GOTD. Seeding is still up for grabs. BU Finds a way.
Marian at Aurora: Coin flip lands Marian
Concordia Wisconsin at Dominican: Yawn.....
Edgewood at Rockford: Eagles look to improve their seeding while Rockford tries to stay alive for the tournament.
Alverno at Lakeland: Alverno needs this to stay in the hunt. Lakeland hopes to avoid a trip to the Rex.
NACC Standings
1. WLC 17-4 (15-2) x
2. Benedictine 14-8 (14-3) x
3. CUW 17-5 (13-4) x
4. MSOE 17-5 (13-4) x
5. Concordia Chicago 12-10 (9-8)
6. Edgewood 10-12 (9-8)
7. Marian 12-10 (8-9)
8. Lakeland 8-14 (7-10)
9. Aurora 7-15 (7-10)
10. Rockford 5-17 (4-13)
11. Alverno 5-17 (3-14) z
12. Dominican 1-21 (0-17) z
Four teams have locked up spots in the tournament. Six others have shots to get a spot.
Scenarios
WLC: win out or have BU lose once.
BU: win out and have WLC lose twice (WLC swept season series)
CUW: win out and have BU lose twice and WLC lose last three games.
MSOE: See above.
....
2/11 Scores
Rockford 66
Alverno 65
Lakeland 69
Marian 67
Rockford is eliminated from a spot in the tournament.
Concordia Chicago 78
Aurora 66
Cougars clinch a tournament berth.
MSOE 55
Concordia Wisconsin 53
Raiders may have locked up at least the 3 seed with the win.
Benedictine 62
Dominican 34
Eagles remain a game back of the Warriors.
Wisconsin Lutheran 64
Edgewood 44
Loss did not hurt Edgewood but things are getting tight behind them.
Marian/CUC up shortly:
Halftime: CUC 47, Marian 42 (Cougars' Rogers has 12 pts -- all on 3s)
One other halftime score: Aurora 18, Edgewood 17 (both teams shot below 24% for the half(
Final: Edgewood 46, Aurora 42 (WI Eagle announcers indicate Edgewood's in the NACC Tournament with this win)
Final: CUC 91, Marian 83 (Cougars trailed 74-65 at one point, then went on a 26-9 scoring run to finish the game-had 6 players score in double figures)
A WLCAlumn sighting! We missed ya this entire season lol.
Remaining schedules for Marian and Aurora:
Aurora vs. Alverno
Marian vs. CUW
Sabers clinch final spot with a win or an Aurora loss.
Locked in seeds:
WLC - 1
CUW - 4
CUC - 5
Up for grabs:
2 Seed - BU Wins they will be #2 and MSOE #3, if BU loses and MSOE loses BU will be #2 and MSOE #3, if BU loses and MSOE wins, MSOE will be #2 and BU #3 (BU has the tie breaker, it goes all the way down to the CUW matchups) Tonights matchups: BU @ Rockford and MSOE @ WLC. Prediction BU gets #2 and MSOE gets #3
6 Seed - Edgewood wins they will be #6 and LC will be #7, if LC wins they will be #6 and Edgewood #7 (these are the fun games, because it is one on one to decide seeding). Prediction LC takes care of business at home to move up another spot in the standings.
8 Seed - Marian wins or Aurora loses MU will recieve #8 seed by 1 game lead, if Marians loses and and Aurora wins then AU sneaks into the #8 seed (interesitng if MU fails to make the tourney after their hot start, but losing 5 straight conference games to end the season puts them in that situation) Matchups: Marian @ CUW and Alverno @ Aurora. Prediction Marian loses 5th straight, Aurora sneaks by Alverno for the final spot in the tourney, MU is left watching from home on Saturday.
Should be an interesting night of games with a lot still on the line. Can't wait till saturdays first round matchups, shaping up to be some good games.
NACC Tournament is set.
Matchups
#8 Aurora (8-17, 8-12) at #1 Wisconsin Lutheran (20-4, 18-2) (WLC won series 2-0)
#5 Concordia Chicago (15-10, 12-8) at #4 Concordia Wisconsin (19-6, 15-5) (Series Tied 1-1)
#6 Edgewood (12-13, 11-9) at #3 MSOE (19-6, 15-5) (MSOE won series 2-0)
#7 Lakeland (10-15, 9-11) at #2 Benedictine (16-9, 16-4) (Series Tied 1-1)
Predictions
WLC - By a comfortable margin, this wont be like the first matchup between these two teams @ the Rex
CUC - CUW not playing all that well to close the season, CUC picks up the tempo for a minor upset
MSOE - MSOE with a grind it out win, EC cools off after Wednesdays hot shooting night
Benedictine - BU looking to avenge last weekends upset loss to the Muskies
My picks:
WLC: Warriors are hitting on all cylinders here. AU is fortunate to make the conference tournament.
CUW: It is never wise to count out a Brunner-Jones coached team. Though it won't be easy.
MSOE: Raiders pull away in the second half.
Benedictine: Muskies have the distinction of hanging a loss on the top two seeds this year, but their season ends here.
Edgewood/MSOE up shortly:
Half: MSOE 31, Edgewood 25 (Eagles were down by 11 at one point, MSOE's D is really showing up)
Other scores:
CUW 32, CUC 22 Half
Benedictine 37, Lakeland 25 2 secs left 1st Half
WLC 33, Aurora 16 Half
Shifted to CUC/CUW (game's got tighter after the break)
UPSET ALERT:
CUC 65, CUW 58 Final (Despite having 3 players foul out CUC's Jahnke and Orr score big and the Cougars hit their FTs late. They get their first tournament win since '08. (Does Coach Rogers get a look for NACC COY?)
MSOE and WLC also won
Semifinals picks
#5 CUC at #1 Wisconsin Lutheran: Cougars won the rubber match against CUW, but they have no answer for Schulz and company.
#3 MSOE at #2 Benedictine: Toss up. Think Eagles slow down the Raiders in this one.
I agree with both of CaptainJoe's picks:
Should MSOE pull off a road win tonight, it'll lead to a 2nd consecutive all Milwaukee area NACC Tournament final (Alverno vs. WLC in '14)
CUC/WLC up shortly:
Half: WLC 43, CUC 21
Final: WLC 83, CUC 61
Benedictine 36, MSOE 34 14 min left 2nd half
Final: Benedictine 71, MSOE 59
WLC gets Wheaton IL as a first round draw:
Interested in this match up. Watched the Wheaton v. North Central CCIW Champ game this weekend. They are a good team, but hard to judge since NC runs a Grinnell-like system. But I would definitely give WLC a chance here. I will for sure be tuning in.
On the other end UWO is matched up with North Central, also will be an interesting game.
I think Wheaton is favored in this one but if WLC manages to keep turnovers to a minimum and plays good. They have a very good chance of winning this game.
WLC stuns #10 Wheaton 70-67 in overtime. They face Hope in the round of 32 in a rematch of last year's game at Carthage.
First NCAA tournament win for WLC since '11 when they knocked off UW-Lacrosse and gave IL Wesleyan all it could handle before falling in the 2nd round that year.
I hear Lakeland's looking for a new WBB coach.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on May 28, 2015, 09:37:31 AM
I hear Lakeland's looking for a new WBB coach.
That they are. Here's a news article about it: http://www.lakelandmuskies.com/news/2015/5/26/WBB_0526153624.aspx (http://www.lakelandmuskies.com/news/2015/5/26/WBB_0526153624.aspx)
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on May 30, 2015, 12:42:14 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on May 28, 2015, 09:37:31 AM
I hear Lakeland's looking for a new WBB coach.
That they are. Here's a news article about it: http://www.lakelandmuskies.com/news/2015/5/26/WBB_0526153624.aspx (http://www.lakelandmuskies.com/news/2015/5/26/WBB_0526153624.aspx)
Aaron Nester is the new Head Coach over at Lakeland. Mostly been an assistant in the IIAC before taking over the head coaching job down at Ogelthorpe but had a hard time putting together sustained success going 18-59 in three seasons there.
http://lakelandmuskies.com/news/2015/6/16/WBB_0616153606.aspx
Kristen Gillespie resigns as the head coach of Benedictine to become the head coach of D2 Lewis University.
http://www.naccsports.org/sports/wbkb/2015-16/releases/20150731ltf5me
2015-16 NACC Preseason Poll
1. Wisconsin Lutheran (16), 270
2. Concordia Wisconsin (5), 258
3. MSOE (2), 238
4. Benedictine (1), 225
5. Concordia Chicago, 195
6. Lakeland, 154
7. Edgewood, 140
8. Aurora, 121
9. Marian, 104
10. Alverno, 79
11. Rockford, 62
12. Dominican, 26
Wisconsin Lutheran has won 5 straight NACC regular season and tournament titles coming into this year. Of note, only the top 6 will qualify for the conference tournament this season; it had been top 8 in previous years.
I wonder why they changed the format from an 8 team to a 6 team conference tournament.
I think all of the NACC conference tournaments except basketball were already 6, and this is to make it consistent. But don't quote me on that.
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on October 28, 2015, 10:50:45 PM
I think all of the NACC conference tournaments except basketball were already 6, and this is to make it consistent. But don't quote me on that.
This, plus the desire to give the #1 and #2 a better chance at earning an at-large bid should they not win the tournament. Playing the extra game against a #7 or #8 seed can be a drain on their SOS number.
NACC goes 1-5 for the first weekend.
Wisconsin Lutheran falls on the road against DI Northern Illinois 69-40. Not really surprising since it was a tough matchup for the Warriors.
WLC opens at home against Finlandia Friday in the Paul F. Knueppel Classic.
Hot Damn WLC!
Wisconsin Lutheran 86
#10 Calvin 80
Final
NACC Standings
1. Concordia Wisconsin 6-0 (5-0)
2. Benedictine 8-2 (5-0)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 6-3 (4-0)
4. MSOE 5-4 (4-1)
5. Aurora 3-6 (2-2)
6. Lakeland 2-6 (2-2)
7. Alverno 5-5 (2-4)
8. Marian 4-5 (2-4)
9. Concordia Chicago 3-3 (1-3)
10. Dominican 1-8 (1-4)
11. Edgewood 2-6 (1-5)
12. Rockford 2-6 (0-4)
12/19 Games
Alverno 28 Wesley 26 Half
Wartburg at Edgewood: Edgewood's early struggles continue.
Rockford at Aurora: Rockford still searches for their first NACC win.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Lakeland: WLC is still missing Knueppel in the lineup but they get past Lakeland here.
Concordia Chicago at Dominican: Won't be surprised if Dominican makes this a game.
Final: WLC 63, Aurora 57
Despite early cold-shooting, the Warriors prevail at home.
Also heard Benedictine knocked off CUW at home, leaving the IL Eagle squad tied with the Warriors at the top of the NACC.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 02, 2016, 09:37:37 PM
Final: WLC 63, Aurora 57
Despite early cold-shooting, the Warriors prevail at home.
Also heard Benedictine knocked off CUW at home, leaving the IL Eagle squad tied with the Warriors at the top of the NACC.
First game back for Catlin Knueppel who was out for about a month with a pretty good ankle sprain.
Klay Knueppel becomes the all-time winningest WBB coach at WLC with a 70-38 win over Edgewood last night. He passed Wayne Smith with his 224th win.
Saturday's Scores
Concordia Chicago 75
Marian 63
Edgewood 66
Rockford 54
MSOE 65
Aurora 52
Lakeland 87
Dominican 54
Concordia Wisconsin 77
Alverno 62
Wisconsin Lutheran 55
Benedictine 42
NACC Standings
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 10-3 (8-0)
2. Benedictine 10-3 (7-1)
3. MSOE 9-4 (7-1)
4. Concordia Wisconsin 9-3 (6-2)
5. Lakeland 6-7 (5-3)
6. Concordia Chicago 6-6 (4-4)
7. Aurora 5-8 (4-4)
8. Alverno 6-8 (3-6)
9. Marian 4-9 (2-6)
10. Edgewood 3-11 (2-7)
11. Domincan 2-11 (1-7)
12. Rockford 2-11 (0-8)
WLC stands alone atop the league after grounding the IL Eagles in Lisle yesterday. CUW takes on the Warriors Wednesday in order to get back into the conference race.
Each and every week there are games that will surprise. Each and every season there are programs that will surprise. This season there may be more than the rest.
Tonight on Hoopsville, Dave returns from the NCAA Convention in San Antonio where he got more than a taste of Texas basketball. Plus, there are a few teams making a statement in their conferences and it's time to shine a light on their success.
Dave also got a chance while at the NCAA Convention to talk to the parents of one of the more influencial student-athletes the NCAA has seen. Brent and Lisa Hill talk about the legacy left by their daughter Lauren and the recognition she got from the NCAA.
You can watch the show starting at 7pm ET tonight right here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan17
Guests include (in order):
- Janson Hightower, Southwestern men's coach
- Cameron Hill, No. 17 Trinity (Texas) women's coach
- Jessica Ott, Milwaukee Engineering women's coach - WBCA Center Court
- Bill Geitner, Eastern Connecticut's men's coach
- Steven Schulman, Lehman's men's coach
- Bill and Lisa Hill, Lauren Hill's parents
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Alverno/WLC up shortly:
WLC 19, Alverno 0 End of 1st Qrtr.
WLC 39, Alverno 19 Half
WLC 57, Alverno 37 End of 3rd Qrtr
Final: WLC 77, Alverno 49.
Warrior D was there, established right out of the gate. The loss costs Alverno some, especially if Lakeland beats CUC later today (the Inferno are now 2 games back in the win column to the Muskies, who now hold the #6 spot (though I know its' early yet).
Benedictine/MSOE up shortly:
Benedictine 12, MSOE 9 Start of 2nd Qrtr
Half: MSOE 29, Benedictine 24
MSOE 38, Benedictine 30 Start of 4th Qrtr
CUW is up by some 33 points on Rockford in the 4th Qrtr of that one, so if the Raiders hold their lead the 3-way tie at the top remains.
Final; MSOE 51, Benedictine 42
MSOE, WLC and CUW remain tied while the IL Eagle squad slips.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 23, 2016, 06:50:18 PM
Final; MSOE 51, Benedictine 42
MSOE, WLC and CUW remain tied while the IL Eagle squad slips.
Wisconsin Lutheran 77
Alverno 49
Warriors shut out the Inferno with a 19-0 first quarter. Alverno could not get within 14 of WLC for the entire game.
Aurora 57
Marian 39
Edgewood 61
Dominican 53
Concordia Wisconsin 83
Rockford 48
Lakeland 80
Concordia Chicago 72
NACC Standings
1. Concordia Wisconsin 13-3 (10-2)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 12-5 (10-2)
3. MSOE 12-5 (10-2)
4. Benedictine 11-6 (8-4)
5. Lakeland 9-8 (8-4)
6. Aurora 9-8 (8-4)
7. Alverno 8-9 (5-7)
8. Concordia Chicago 6-10 (4-8)
9. Edgewood 5-12 (4-8)
10. Marian 5-12 (3-9)
11. Dominican 3-14 (2-9)
12. Rockford 2-15 (0-12)
Starting to see some separation between the potential NACC tournament teams and the others. However we have a two 3 team logjams for 1st place and for 4th place.
1/27 Scores
Aurora 63 Alverno 60
Benedictine 70 Dominican 52
Concordia Chicago 99 Rockford 75
Concordia Wisconsin 58 MSOE 55
Lakeland 68 Marian 39
Wisconsin Lutheran 68 Edgewood 49
NACC Standings
1. Concordia Wisconsin 14-3 (11-2)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 13-5 (11-2)
3. MSOE 12-6 (10-3)
4. Benedictine 12-6 (9-4)
5. Aurora 10-8 (9-4)
6. Lakeland 10-8 (9-4)
7. Alverno 8-10 (5-8)
8. Concordia Chicago 7-10 (5-8)
9. Edgewood 5-13 (4-9)
10. Marian 5-13 (3-10)
11. Dominican 3-15 (2-11)
12. Rockford 2-16 (0-13)
Aurora 56 Edgewood 51
MSOE 75 Rockford 64
Benedictine 76 Lakeland 57
Alverno 70 Marian 45
Wisconsin Lutheran 72 Dominican 49
CIT Tournament (AKA the Missouri Synod Tournament)
Consolation: Concordia-Ann Arbor 75 Concordia Chicago 62
Championship: Concordia-Nebraska 75 Concordia Wisconsin 53
NAIA Concordias have their way with the D3 Concordias in the CIT.
For the third consecutive year, Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) will air for 12 hours as the regular season enters the final four weeks. Dave McHugh will chat with coaches, administrators, student-athletes, and others involved in Division III basketball from around the country. Other guests will include those who have Division III roots or appreciate the division and the game along with the student-athletes who play the sport.
Hoopsville will air from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. (and maybe later) on Thursday, February 4 live from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can see what guests are scheduled, get more information, and watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb4
You can also read the press release about the show: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/hoopsville-marathon-2016
Here is the guest list as we speak. All times are Eastern and subject to change. Additional guests to be added if and when necessary:
Time | Guest | School |
10:15am | Connie Tilley | St. Norbert (WBB) - WBCA Center Court |
10:40am | Jamie Purdy | Peidmont (WBB) |
11:00am | Keri Carollo | UW-Whitewater (WBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair |
11:20am | Brent Pollari | Saint Mary's (Minn.) (WBB) |
11:40am | Kent Madsen | No. 21 Wheaton (Ill.) (WBB) |
12:00pm | Russell Loyd | Rose-Hulman (MBB) |
12:20pm | Kevin Broderick | Nazareth (MBB) |
12:40pm | Justin Scott | Arcadia (MBB) |
1:00pm | Sam Hargraves | No. 12 Alma (MBB) |
1:20pm | Lenny Reich | Mount Union (SID) |
1:40pm | Maureen Webster | Clarkson (WBB) |
2:00pm | Betsy Witman | York (Pa.) (WBB) |
2:20pm | Sara Lee | Denison (WBB) |
2:40pm | Klay Kneuppel | Wisconsin Lutheran (MBB) |
3:00pm | Brian Van Haaften | Buena Vista (MBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair |
3:30pm | Sydney Moss | No. 1 Thomas More (WBB) |
3:45pm | Aaron Rousell | Bucknell (WBB) - former Chicago coach |
4:00pm | Tim Shanahan | Staten Island (WBB) |
4:20 | Pat Cunningham | Trinity (Texas) (MBB) - NABC Coach's Corner |
4:50pm | Bubba Smith | Sewanee (MBB) |
5:15pm | Ben Strong | Former Guilford All-American |
5:30pm | Kevin Connors | ESPN SportsCenter Anchor - Ithaca alumnus |
6:00pm | Kristen Dowling | Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (WBB) |
6:20pm | Allison Coleman | Sage (WBB) |
6:40pm | Landry Kosmalski | Swarthmore (MBB) |
7:00pm | Dave Niland | No. 23 Penn State-Behrend (MBB) |
7:20pm | Aaron Galletta | Lasell (MBB) |
7:40pm | John Baron | Gwynedd-Mercy (MBB) |
8:00pm | | |
8:20pm | | |
8:40pm | Melissa Hodgdon | Wheaton (Mass.) (WBB) |
9:00pm | G.P. Gromacki | No. 2 Amherst (WBB) |
9:20pm | James Wagner | |
9:40pm | HAPPY HOUR | Free-for-all of calls, tweets, and fun! |
We hope to get at least the full show on a podcast, or several podcast, during the on Friday. You can find it here:
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In-conference schedules of NACC teams still in contention for a playoff spot:
Benedictine: at CUC; vs. Edgewood; at Alverno; at Lakeland:
Aurora: at Dominican; vs. CUW; at Rockford; at Edgewood:
Lakeland: vs. MSOE; at Alverno: at WLC; vs. Benedictine
Alverno: vs. Rockford; vs. Lakeland: vs. Benedictine, at Marian
CUC: at Benedictine; vs. WLC: vs. Dominican: at CUW
One more loss and the Cougars are eliminated. As for the rest, of the 3 most likely to get in (barring a monumental collapse,) Lakeland, on paper, appears to have the toughest of the schedules.
Alright, folks -- the NCAA's first women's basketball regional rankings are posted. Check out the full list from D3hoops.com:
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/10/first-2016-regional-rankings-released-today/
Aurora clinched a conference tournament berth with their win over Dominican last night. Lakeland and Benedictine would lock up the last two spots in the field if the Muskies beat Alverno on Saturday night; the Eagles can also clinch by beating Edgewood earlier on Saturday.
Joining Edgewood/Benedictine in progress (IL squad up 5-0 in 1st Qrtr at the moment)
Benedictine 12, Edgewood 11 Start of 2nd Qrtr
Half: Benedictine 28, Edgewood 21
Ben U announcer indicated Aurora has a 32-25 halftime lead on CUW
Update: Benedictine 43, Edgewood 35 Start of 4th Qrtr.
(IL Eagles' Crayton had to leave late in the 3rd after twisting an ankle)
Final: Benedictine 62, Edgewood 55
One other final: Aurora 55, CUW 54 on a buzzer-beater
Also, WLC won big over CUC.
The entire regular season has basically come down to this week: Championship Week.
Almost all conferences will determine their automatic bids to the NCAA tournament via their own tournaments. Those that haven't started already, will begin soon. And in a matter of a week, 87 teams on the men's and women's sides will know they are headed to the NCAA tournament.
Sunday night on Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh talks to some of the teams who hope home court will be their ticket to the NCAA post-season play. Each of the teams featured tonight won their regular season conference titles and need to win their conference tournaments to get into the NCAA tournament.
Hoopsville hits the air at 7pm ET. Tune in here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb21
Guests include (in order of appearance):
- Stacey Brunner-Jones, Concordia-Wisconsin women's coach
- Mike Ricks, Birmingham-Southern women's coach
- Bernard Tomlin, SUNY Old Westbury men's coach
- Mike McDevitt, St. Joseph's (Maine) women's coach
- Ryan Scott, Mid-Atlantic Region Report
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Lakeland/Aurora up shortly:
Benedictine/MSOE also on deck:
Benedictine 15, MSOE 12 Start of 2nd Qrtr.
Lakeland and Aurora are tied at 15 after 1 quarter.
Halftime Scores:
Benedictine 31, MSOE 22 (IL Eagles' Crayton-10 pts at the break)
Aurora 33, Lakeland 32
After 3 Quarters:
Benedictine 40, MSOE 33
Aurora 48, Lakeland 45
Final: Aurora 65, Lakeland 55
Benedictine's up 2 on MSOE with less than a minute to play
Final: Benedictine 53, MSOE 49
Raiders came back from 10 down to tie it at 44, but IL Eagles' clutch FT shooting was the difference in the end here.
Top seed CUW upset at home by Aurora 66-63 in the semifinals. Crushing blow to their at-large chances too. Still have a shot, but that didn't help.
WLC prevailed over Benedictine, 70-52 in the other Semi-Final.
That'll be a rubber match between Aurora and WLC. Both teams won at home in the regular season.
NACC Tournament Final
Wisconsin Lutheran 23
Aurora 16
End 1st
Warriors currently on a 10-0 run.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 27, 2016, 03:25:48 PM
NACC Tournament Final
Wisconsin Lutheran 23
Aurora 16
End 1st
Warriors currently on a 10-0 run.
Aurora 29
Wisconsin Lutheran 28
Aurora finished the half on a 13-0 run.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 27, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 27, 2016, 03:25:48 PM
NACC Tournament Final
Wisconsin Lutheran 23
Aurora 16
End 1st
Warriors currently on a 10-0 run.
Aurora 43
Wisconsin Lutheran 42
End 3rd
Aurora 29
Wisconsin Lutheran 28
Aurora finished the half on a 13-0 run.
Wisconsin Lutheran 53
Aurora 44
WLC is on a 11-1 run.
Wisconsin Lutheran 59
Aurora 50
:59 4th
Wisconsin Lutheran 61
Aurora 52
Final
Wisconsin Lutheran wins their sixth straight NACC Tournament Title!
WLC will face Wartburg (19-7) in the first round. The winner gets either host UW-Oshkosh or UW-Superior.
NACC All-Conference Teams
1st
Bahr (WLC) (Sr)
Botich (Benedictine) (Sr)
Denfield (MSOE) (Jr)
Dorrington (Aurora) (Sr)
Dowden (WLC) (Fr)
Grayvold (Lakeland) (Jr)
Kroll (MSOE) (Sr)
Landgraf (CUW) (Sr)
Roszkowski (Aurora) (Sr)
Wagner (CUW) (Soph)
2nd
Cast (Aurora) (Fr)
Jahnke (CUC) (Sr)
Knueppel (WLC) (Soph)
McBain (Alverno) (Sr)
Pope (Edgewood) (Sr)
HM
Ferry (Benedictine) (Sr)
Hood (Alverno) (Sr)
Stankevitch (Lakeland) (Soph)
All Freshmen
Cast (Aurora)
Dowden (WLC)
Gordon (Edgewood)
Mathies (Alverno)
Sims (Benedictine)
POY: Denfield (MSOE)
DPOY: Kroll (MOSE)
FOY: Dowden (WLC)
COY: Brunner-Jones (CUW)
Denfield won the Jostens Trophy while Dowden earned the Central Region Freshmen of the Year.
NACC Preseason Poll
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 274 (13)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 270 (10)
3. MSOE 235
4. Lakeland 202 (1)
5. Benedictine 189
6. Aurora 164
7. Alverno 147
8. Concordia Chicago 137
9. Edgewood 98
10. Marian 77
11. Dominican 42
12. Rockford 37
Last Year's NACC Standings
1. Concordia Wisconsin 20-6 (17-3)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 20-8 (16-4)
3. MSOE 18-8 (16-4)
4. Aurora 17-11 (14-6)
5. Lakeland 14-12 (13-7)
6. Benedictine 16-11 (12-8)
7. Alverno 14-11 (11-9)
8. Concordia Chicago 10-15 (8-12)
9. Edgewood 7-18 (6-14)
10. Marian 6-19 (4-16)
11. Dominican 3-22 (2-18)
12. Rockford 3-22 (1-19)
First night of games are in the books!
Benedictine 59
Lake Forest 51 OT
Beloit 59
Aurora 51
Augustana 102
Rockford 61
Dominican 70
Kalamazoo 52
Mount Mary 75
Marian 61
UW-Stevens Point 64
Alverno 42
Concordia Wisconsin 66
UW-Platteville 63
UW-Oshkosh 69
Edgewood 28
UW-Whitewater 70
Lakeland 56
NACC goes 4-5 on opening night. Some good wins and some rather embarrassing losses.
Tuesday's Scores
Beloit 74
Rockford 62
Marian 61
Maranatha 45
Wisconsin Lutheran 72
Lakeland 54
NACC Standings
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 2-2 (2-0)
2. Benedictine 4-1 (1-0)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 3-1 (1-0)
4. Alverno 1-4 (1-0)
5. Concordia Chicago 2-1 (1-1)
6. Lakeland 2-4 (1-1)
7. Rockford 2-2 (0-0)
8. Dominican 1-3 (0-0)
9. Marian 1-3 (0-1)
10. Edgewood 0-4 (0-1)
11. Aurora 0-5 (0-1)
12. MSOE 1-2 (0-2)
NACC Standings
1. Concordia Wisconsin 6-1 (4-0)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 4-2 (4-0)
3. Benedictine 7-1 (3-0)
4. Alverno 2-5 (2-1)
5. Concordia Chicago 3-2 (2-2)
6. MSOE 3-2 (2-2)
7. Lakeland 4-5 (2-2)
8. Rockford 2-4 (0-2)
9. Dominican 1-5 (0-2)
10. Aurora 1-6 (0-2)
11. Marian 1-5 (0-3)
12. Edgewood 0-6 (0-3)
Today's Matchups
Edgewood at Benedictine
Marian at Rockford
Alverno at Lakeland
MSOE at Dominican
Concordia Chicago at Wisconsin Lutheran
Concordia Wisconsin at Aurora
1/3 Scores
Benedictine 60 Dominican 49
Concordia Wisconsin 59 MSOE 47
Alverno 54 Aurora 50
Lakeland 54 Marian 34
Wisconsin Lutheran 85 Edgewood 49
NACC Standings as of 1/4
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 7-4 (7-0)
2. Benedictine 10-1 (6-0)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 8-2 (6-1)
4. Lakeland 7-5 (5-2)
5. Alverno 4-7 (4-2)
6. Concordia Chicago 5-5 (4-3)
7. MSOE 6-5 (3-3)
8. Rockford 4-7 (2-4)
9. Marian 2-9 (1-5)
10. Aurora 2-10 (1-6)
11. Edgewood 0-11 (0-6)
12. Dominican 1-10 (0-7)
If Benedictine goes into Wisconsin Lutheran on Saturday and beats them (which is far from a sure thing), they'd be 12-1. Would that be enough to get them some top 25 consideration?
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on January 06, 2017, 12:10:31 AM
If Benedictine goes into Wisconsin Lutheran on Saturday and beats them (which is far from a sure thing), they'd be 12-1. Would that be enough to get them some top 25 consideration?
Considering the number of teams who are undefeated and not in the poll... doubtful, but there is always a chance.
It is far more difficult to crack the women's Top 25 poll than the mens. It isn't as fluid, there aren't as many losses, and the difference between the top teams, the second tier, and everyone else is pretty large.
Baldwin Wallace, now 11-1, was 11-0 heading into the last poll - not ranked.
SUNY Geneseo, now 10-0, was 8-0 heading into the last poll - not ranked.
Not sure if Benedictine can jump those two teams plus a number of others especially considering heading into tonight only one team in the Top 25 had loss (not sure about tonight).
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 06, 2017, 12:53:12 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on January 06, 2017, 12:10:31 AM
If Benedictine goes into Wisconsin Lutheran on Saturday and beats them (which is far from a sure thing), they'd be 12-1. Would that be enough to get them some top 25 consideration?
Considering the number of teams who are undefeated and not in the poll... doubtful, but there is always a chance.
It is far more difficult to crack the women's Top 25 poll than the mens. It isn't as fluid, there aren't as many losses, and the difference between the top teams, the second tier, and everyone else is pretty large.
Baldwin Wallace, now 11-1, was 11-0 heading into the last poll - not ranked.
SUNY Geneseo, now 10-0, was 8-0 heading into the last poll - not ranked.
Not sure if Benedictine can jump those two teams plus a number of others especially considering heading into tonight only one team in the Top 25 had loss (not sure about tonight).
Thanks for the info. I haven't followed the women's side as closely over the years, but that does make sense based on what I have seen (a lot more 30/40/50/etc. point margins than in men's games, that's for sure.)
Then I would suspect that, since they don't really have any notable wins, probably not.
Yeah, you've gotta beat someone notable if you're going to crack the Top 25 for the first time. Like most polls, there's definitely a historical bias at play. Voters tend to give the benefit of the doubt to familiar names. That's not to say they can't get there, but with no non-conference games left, it's going to be harder to get a signature win.
Quote from: Just Bill on January 06, 2017, 11:56:40 AM
Yeah, you've gotta beat someone notable if you're going to crack the Top 25 for the first time. Like most polls, there's definitely a historical bias at play. Voters tend to give the benefit of the doubt to familiar names. That's not to say they can't get there, but with no non-conference games left, it's going to be harder to get a signature win.
Well on the women's side... those historical and familiar names also don't go away. There is less parity in the women's game which has allowed those top programs to remain top and not be threatened by many others.
I joke with Gordon about the amount of time it takes him compared to me to vote. Him with the women and myself with the men. He barely has to think about it when compared to the amount of work I do (he does think about it, just using a comparison).
There does need to be a notable win on the women's side to help - but also on the men's side. But the point spreads is a great example. If a team is undefeated in the women's game but winning by 3, 4, 5 points a game compared to another team who is undefeated by winning by 20, 25, 30... the team barely winning is going to have to do more. It is just a different view on the women's side.
As the season continues to march along, we continue to see more and more twists. There aren't many more answers despite being about halfway through the season.
Sunday night on Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave continues the coverage of the UWSP investigation and punishments. Athletics Director Brad Duckworth will join the show to discuss everything that lead up to the decision to suspend Bob Semling the rest of the season and why they handed the program over to Kent Dernbach.
Also tonight, the WBCA Center Court segment makes its season debut. The first guest this season will be Emory women's coach Christy Thomaskutty. Not only will we learn more about why Thomaskutty has been so intregal as a member of the WBCA board, but learn why she thinks it is important to give back to the game she loves. We will also learn more about the Eagles who have their first game in UAA action now complete.
We will also dip into the Northeast, Atlantic, South, and Central regions to get a sense of how some teams off the radar, and others very much on, are doing as the midseason turn arrives. You can also contribute to the new "Hoopsville Mailbag." Email questions you may have to the show at hoopsville@d3hoops.com.
Watch Hoopsville starting at 7:00 PM here (http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2016-17/jan8) or on Facebook Live. You can also watch the show On Demand download and or listen to the podcast(s). Information below.
Guests and/or topics include (in order):
- Brad Duckworth, UW-Stevens Point Athletics Director
- Alex Lang, Brooklyn women's coach
- Christy Thomaskutty, Emory women's coach (WBCA Center Court)
- Charlie Averkamp, Benedictine women's coach
- Kevin Bettencourt, Endicott men's coach
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With two weeks to go in the regular season, here's current standings:
1. Concordia Wisconsin (x) 14-2 (17-4)
1. Wisconsin Lutheran (x) 14-2 (14-6)
3. Benedictine (x) 13-3 (17-4)
4. Concordia Chicago (x) 12-4 (13-8)
4. Lakeland (x) 12-4 (14-7)
6. Alverno 9-7 (9-12)
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7. MSOE 7-9 (10-11)
8. Dominican 5-11 (7-14)
8. Rockford 5-11 (7-14)
10. Aurora (e) 3-13 (4-17)
11. Marian (e) 2-14 (3-18)
12. Edgewood (e) 0-16 (0-21)
(x) clinched NACC Tournament berth; (e) eliminated
The top five should begin sorting itself out tomorrow night, as the co-leaders square off at Wisconsin Lutheran while Concordia Chicago welcomes Benedictine in for a visit. Both CUW and WLC also have to travel to Concordia Chicago yet, the Warriors head up to Lakeland next week, and the Muskies close out the regular season at Benedictine, so still plenty to be decided there in terms of the regular-season NACC title and conference tournament seeding/home court advantage.
Also, MSOE beat Alverno in OT in their only meeting, so they would be in if those two teams finish tied. But with three of the remaining four opponents for each team being common (Lakeland, Marian and Rockford), they've got plenty of work to do.
Congratulations to Concordia Wisconsin, who has clinched their 2nd straight NACC regular season championship with their win tonight and Benedictine's loss.
Lakeland at Benedictine on Saturday will decide the runner up and the #2 seed in the NACC Tournament, where those three teams will be joined by Concordia Chicago, Wisconsin Lutheran and Alverno (who will be the #6 seed).
Tournament is set...
First Round - Tuesday, February 21, 7 p.m.
#6 Alverno at #3 Benedictine
#5 Concordia Chicago at #4 Wisconsin Lutheran
Semifinals - Thursday, February 23, 7 p.m.
#4/5 seed winner at #1 Concordia Wisconsin
#3/6 seed winner at #2 Lakeland
Final - Saturday, February 25, time TBA
Lowest-remaining-seed at Highest-remaining-seed
NACC Tournament First Round
#6 Alverno 64
#3 Benedictine 63
After the Eagles were twice unable to take the lead at the line with under 30 seconds to go, Gabby Hood sank the winning free throw after she got fouled with 1 second left to give the Inferno their second win at the Rice Center in a week. They advance to play Lakeland on Thursday.
#5 Concordia Chicago 45
#4 Wisconsin Lutheran 66
WLC held CUC scoreless for the final 10:14 of the contest to overturn a 9 point deficit. They move on to play Concordia Wisconsin in the semifinals.
NACC Tournament Semifinals
#4 Wisconsin Lutheran 66
#1 Concordia Wisconsin 76
#6 Alverno 63
#2 Lakeland 79
And thus, the Warriors streak of six straight conference tournament titles comes to an end. Instead, it will be the last two teams who won it before that, as we have #2 Lakeland at #1 Concordia Wisconsin Saturday at 2:00pm (CT).
Out of curiosity, I see CUW is ranked #7 in the region. Do they have a realistic chance to get an at-large bid if Lakeland beats them, or is their SOS going to be too low?
NACC Tournament Final
#2 Lakeland 64
#1 Concordia Wisconsin 60
The Muskies made a couple more plays down the stretch after the Falcons erased a 12 point deficit in the 2nd half, and Lakeland is headed to the NCAA Tournament for the first time in seven years, where they will play #5 ranked and undefeated Ohio Northern in the first round.
Concordia Wisconsin did not receive an at-large bid.
Edgewood announces recruiting class...
http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/high-school/basketball/girls/prep-girls-basketball-madison-east-s-riley-larson-plans-to/article_a4a55edd-226f-5a8d-972d-ecbd4fa8a4f2.html
Jennifer Freeman, Lake Geneva Badger, 5-foot-9 guard
Sarah Jenkins, Madison Edgewood (2015), 5-10 forward
Riley Larson, Madison East, 5-8 guard
Brooke Lonigro, McFarland, 5-3 guard
Kelly Carpenter, Fenwick (Villa Park, Illinois), 6-0 post
Annika Lundgren, Troy (Fullerton, California), 5-8 guard
Diamond Pikulyk, Addison Trail (Illinois), 5-11 post
Delaney Wilhelm, Amboy (Illinois), 5-8 guard
It's almost that time again - we're just a couple of weeks away from the start of the 2017-18 regular season.
2017-18 NACC Women's Basketball Preseason Poll
1. Concordia Wisconsin (14), 272
2. Wisconsin Lutheran (5), 258
3. Benedictine (3), 236
4. Lakeland (2), 223
5. Concordia Chicago, 199
6. Alverno, 152
7. MSOE, 134
8. Aurora, 123
9. Dominican, 117
10. Rockford, 70
11. Marian, 48
12. Edgewood, 40
(Voting done by the head coach and SID at each school, first place votes in parentheses.)
I may be a little biased, but I think I would go higher than 4th for the Muskies. While losing both starting guards from last year will undoubtedly hurt, our frontcourt is talented enough to lean heavier on them, and there should be plenty of depth on both ends. I wouldn't be surprised to see us right back in the title mix this year.
The bottom four teams in the NACC last year, Aurora, Dominican, Marian and Edgewood all win their openers. No one played great competition, but still the NACC went 5-1 on opening night. That's cool.
Thursday and Friday's scores
11/16
Concordia Chicago 94 Blackburn 58
11/17
Ripon 89 Marian 35
#15 DePauw 64 Wisconsin Lutheran 53 (Good effort by the Warriors despite going 34% from the floor).
11/18 Matchups
Dominican at Kalamazoo
Marian vs Fontbonne
Edgewood at Mount Mary
Eureka at Rockford
Illinois Tech at Lakeland
Elmhurst at MSOE
#10 Washington (MO) at Wisconsin Lutheran
Hopefully this slate will tell us a little more about the league this year.
11/18 Scores
Dominican 62 Kalamazoo 58
Fontbonne 63 Marian 39
Edgewood 87 Mount Mary 67
Eureka 85 Rockford 62
Lakeland 77 Illinois Tech 44
Elmhurst 85 MSOE 52
and the biggest win of the year for the NACC goes to......
Wisconsin Lutheran 63 #10 Washington (MO) 50
Standings
1. Dominican 2-0
2. Edgewood 2-0
3. Lakeland 2-0
4. Aurora 1-0
5. Concordia Chicago 1-0
6. Wisconsin Lutheran 1-1
7. Marian 1-2
8. Benedictine 0-0
9. Concordia Wisconsin 0-0
10. Alverno 0-1
11. MSOE 0-1
12. Rockford 0-1
Nice 10-6 start for the league early on.
Condordia-Wi: 67
WARHAWKS: 86
Leading by just a pair of points, 38-36, after four ties and ten lead changes in the first half the WARHAWKS used a 29-11 scoring advantage in the third period and cruised to 86-67 win over Concordia-Wi. The WARHAWKS shot 71% while holding the Falcons to 27% from the floor during the quarter. The Falcons would get no closer than fifteen after that. Senior guard Brooke Trewyn finished with a double/double 15 points/10 rebounds while Camri Conley and Malia Smith led the WARHAWKS in scoring with 16 points each. Junior post player Sarah Schumacher also scored in double figures with 14 points. The WARHAWKS shot 59-7% for the game and dominated the paint outscoring the Falcons 52-22. The Falcons were led by Audrey Scharmer who finished with a game high 20 points.
It is the time of the season when managing practices and games around finals and soon-to-be holiday breaks can be difficult, especially as most conferences have begun in-conference games while there are still non-conference battles on tap.
On Thursday's edition of Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave chats with a number of coaches who have had significant starts to the season, but are now managing their seasons. How are the highs and lows massaged and how to keep student-athletes focused not only on their studies (and finals), but also the game.
Results at this time of the year will be a factor come the end of the season.
Dave will also discuss, and update if able, the breaking news out of St. Norbert where the women's basketball team has been suspended ten games due to a number of players' actions.
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Guests include (in order of appearance):
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- David Doino, Averett men's coach
- Ken Davis, Lake Forest men's coach
- Klay Knueppel, Wisconsin Lutheran women's coach
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NACC Standings as of 1/4
1. RV Wisconsin Lutheran 9-1 (6-0)
2. Benedictine 9-2 (6-0)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 9-3 (6-1)
4. Concordia Chicago 9-2 (5-2)
5. Lakeland 7-5 (4-3)
6. Edgewood 6-6 (4-3)
7. MSOE 5-7 (3-4)
8. Aurora 4-7 (2-4)
9. Rockford 4-8 (2-5)
10. Dominican 5-6 (1-5)
11. Alverno 4-8 (1-6)
12. Marian 2-10 (0-7)
1/2-3 Scores
Wisconsin Lutheran 58 Concordia Wisconsin 49
Edgewood 61 Alverno 51
Benedictine 57 Lakeland 52
Aurora 58 MSOE 52
Concordia Chicago 80 Dominican 69
Concordia Chicago 89 Blackburn 51
Rockford 57 Marian 50
FYI: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/01/benedictine-looking-to-d2
CUC head coach Rusty Rogers will talk about the 14-2 Cougars, winners of nine in a row, on tonight's edition of "Hoopsville" - http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2017-18/jan21. Rogers is scheduled for around 6:20 p.m. CT.
By this point in most seasons, the usual names appear at the top of conferences races and conversations surround the usual suspects. Not the case this year. There are new names at the top, or in the mix, of conferences around the country.
That excitement is what is driving the 2017-18 season and makes any night in Division III must-watch.
On Sunday's episode of Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave talks to some new face leading or in the mix in their respective conferences from four or the regions around the country. Can these teams keep their success through the end of the season or has the challenge just gotten that much more difficult as the second half of conference schedules begins.
There is also some Top 25 discussion to be had. Ryan Scott makes his weekly appearance in "Top 25 Double-take."
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Congratulations to Wisconsin Lutheran! The Warriors, who have not lost since a season-opening defeat to current #8 DePauw, have reached the D3Hoops.com Top 25 for the first time in school history, ranking in at #25 in this week's poll (http://d3hoops.com/top25/women/2017-18/week9). Per the Top 25 Archive, they are the first NACC school to be ranked since Lakeland, all the way back in 2001.
Looking at the standings, with three weeks to go in the regular season, WLC appears to have the regular season title all but wrapped up, but there's a wide open race for 2nd (and the other first round bye in the conference tournament).
1. #25 Wisconsin Lutheran (x) 14-0 (17-1)
2. Concordia Chicago 11-3 (15-4)
2. Benedictine 11-3 (14-5)
4. Concordia Wisconsin 10-4 (13-6)
5. Lakeland 9-5 (12-7)
6. Aurora 7-7 (9-10)
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7. Edgewood 6-8 (8-11)
8. Dominican 5-9 (9-10)
8. MSOE 5-9 (7-12)
10. Rockford 3-11 (5-14)
11. Alverno 2-12 (5-14)
12. Marian 1-13 (3-16)
(x) Clinched NACC Tournament berth
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on January 30, 2018, 01:07:42 AM
Congratulations to Wisconsin Lutheran! The Warriors, who have not lost since a season-opening defeat to current #8 DePauw, have reached the D3Hoops.com Top 25 for the first time in school history, ranking in at #25 in this week's poll (http://d3hoops.com/top25/women/2017-18/week9). Per the Top 25 Archive, they are the first NACC school to be ranked since Lakeland, all the way back in 2001.
That was the Lake Michigan Conference then, so I'd say they are the first NACC school to be ranked.
Quote from: Just Bill on January 30, 2018, 08:08:36 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on January 30, 2018, 01:07:42 AM
Congratulations to Wisconsin Lutheran! The Warriors, who have not lost since a season-opening defeat to current #8 DePauw, have reached the D3Hoops.com Top 25 for the first time in school history, ranking in at #25 in this week's poll (http://d3hoops.com/top25/women/2017-18/week9). Per the Top 25 Archive, they are the first NACC school to be ranked since Lakeland, all the way back in 2001.
That was the Lake Michigan Conference then, so I'd say they are the first NACC school to be ranked.
Exactly. Proud of them. That was a glass ceiling that was long overdue to be shattered.
Women's first regional rankings of the season are out: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/women-regional-rankings-first
Central
1 UW-Whitewater 18-3 18-3
2 Illinois Wesleyan 18-2 18-2
3 Chicago 18-2 18-2
4 Wisconsin Lutheran 18-2 19-2
5 Washington U. 15-5 15-5
6 UW-Eau Claire 15-6 15-6
7 UW-Oshkosh 16-3 17-3
8 Wheaton (Ill.) 15-4 17-4
9 Carthage 15-6 15-6
One week to go in the regular season! Congratulations (again) to Wisconsin Lutheran, who wrapped up the NACC regular season title on Saturday.
1. ARV Wisconsin Lutheran 17-1 (21-2)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 14-4 (17-6)
3. Concordia Chicago 13-5 (17-6)
4. Lakeland 12-6 (15-8)
4. Benedictine 12-6 (15-8)
6. Aurora 11-7 (13-10)
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7. Dominican 8-10 (12-11)
7. Edgewood 8-10 (10-13)
9. MSOE 7-11 (9-14)
10. Rockford 3-15 (5-18)
11. Alverno 2-16 (5-18)
12. Marian 1-17 (3-20)
The conference tournament field is set, but only two games between them next week: Benedictine hosts Wisconsin Lutheran on Tuesday, and Concordia Wisconsin travels to Concordia Chicago on Saturday; having won the first meeting already, the Cougars can leapfrog the Falcons for the No. 2 seed and a first round bye if they win out.
New women's regional rankings: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/women-regional-rankings-second
NACC women's tournament is set. They are playing the semifinals and finals at a single site this year, so that's a little different...
http://www.naccsports.org/sports/wbkb/2017-18/tournament-bracket
First Round - Wednesday, February 21, 7 p.m.
#6 Aurora at #3 Benedictine
#5 Concordia Chicago at #4 Lakeland
Semifinals - Saturday, February 24 - at Recreation Complex, Milwaukee, Wis.
1 p.m. -- Highest Winning Seed vs. #2 Concordia Wisconsin
3:30 p.m. -- Lowest Winning Seed at #1 Wisconsin Lutheran
Final - Sunday, February 25, 3 p.m. - at Recreation Complex, Milwaukee, Wis.
First Semifinal Winner vs. Second Semifinal Winner
The NCAA released the third set of women's basketball regional rankings with few changes from last week's version. This is the final set that we'll see before the Tournament bracket is released on Monday. Full list here: http://d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/women-regional-rankings-third
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NACC First Round#6 Aurora 64
#3 Benedictine 71
#5 Concordia Chicago 62
#4 Lakeland 77
Aurora tried to rally from a deficit that swelled as large as 23 at one point, but despite a 14-1 run they had dug themselves too deep, while Concordia Chicago could not muster a 4th quarter comeback like they had in both previous meetings against the Muskies. So both higher seeds advance, which means it's CUW vs. Benedictine at 1:00 Saturday, followed by Lakeland at Wisconsin Lutheran at 3:30.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2018, 03:00:57 PM
The NCAA released the third set of women's basketball regional rankings with few changes from last week's version. This is the final set that we'll see before the Tournament bracket is released on Monday. Full list here: http://d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/women-regional-rankings-third
Wisconsin Lutheran loses one game last week - on the road, to a team that just picked up its 18th win tonight - and they drop two spots, including below a team that they beat earlier this year? What are they supposed to do, go undefeated?
Wisconsin Lutheran forward Jen Dowden is the NACC Player of the Year for 2017-18; that and the rest of the all-conference awards (http://www.naccsports.org/sports/wbkb/2017-18/releases/20180220xl62je) were announced earlier this week. Congratulations!
NACC Tournament Semifinals
#3 Benedictine (18-9) 52
#2 Concordia Wisconsin (20-6) 61
#4 Lakeland (18-9) 47
#1 Wisconsin Lutheran (23-3) 68
Sweet revenge for the Warriors after Lakeland handed them a loss just after getting ranked for the first time.
NACC Final
#2 Concordia Wisconsin (20-7) 59
#1 Wisconsin Lutheran (24-3) 66
Warriors avoid a possible long wait to see if they get an at-large bid or not, and grab the Pool A bid.
WLC will find out who they play this afternoon.
Came across some recruitng news...
http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/high-school/basketball/girls/edgewood-college-announces-beaver-dam-s-maryn-ferron-s-commitment/article_be479dd6-ba71-5f24-8edc-35c2fa71a8b9.html
I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3
Coaches Preseason Poll came out came out a few days ago....Here is how they predicted the league to shape out this winter:
Article: http://www.naccsports.org/sports/wbkb/2018-19/releases/20181102WBKB-NACCpreseasonpoll
1. Wisconsin Lutheran (24-4) (23) 323
2. Concordia Wisconsin (20-7) (1) 291
3. Benedictine (18-9) (1) 266
4. Lakeland (18-9) 246
5. Aurora (14-12) 229
6. Edgewood (11-14) 180
7. Concordia Chicago (17-9) 176
8. Dominican (14-11) 175
9. MSOE (10-15) 137
10. Rockford (5-20) 84
11. Alverno (5-20)76
12. Marian (3-22) 59
13. Illinois Tech (1-21) 33
Scores through 11/12
11/8
Dominican 62 Beloit 52
11/9
Mount Mary 72 Rockford 62
Benedictine 71 Augustana 66
11/10
MSOE 58 Carroll 56
Dominican 69 Kalamazoo 41
Lakeland 55 UW-River Falls 53
Elmhurst 67 Aurora 56
NACC Standings
1. Dominican 2-0
2. Benedictine 1-0
3. Lakeland 1-0
4. MSOE 1-0
5. ORV Wisconsin Lutheran 0-0
6. Concordia Wisconsin 0-0
7. Illinois Tech 0-0
8. Concordia Chicago 0-0
9. Marian 0-0
10. Edgewood 0-0
11. Alverno 0-0
12. Aurora 0-1
13. Rockford 0-1
This week's matchups
11/13
St. Mary's (Ind) at Illinois Tech
11/14
Concordia Chicago at Marian
11/15
Concordia Wisconsin at Dominican
Mount Mary at Alverno
Lakeland at Lawrence
11/16
Benedictine vs Alma (at Hope)
Edgewood vs Lake Forest (at Dubuque)
Aurora at Anderson (Ind)
Concordia Chicago vs Spaulding (at Webster)
St. Mary's (Ind) at ORV Wisconsin Lutheran
Marian at St. Norbert
11/17
Marian vs TBD (at St. Norbert)
Edgewood vs Beloit (at Dubuque)
Adrian at Illinois Tech
Monmouth (Ill) vs Aurora (at Anderson)
Benedictine at #3 Hope
Concordia Wisconsin at UW-Platteville
Rockford at Eureka
Concordia Chicago at Webster
ORV Calvin at ORV Wisconsin Lutheran
Long Score Thread incoming......
11/13
Lewis 102 Benedictine 58 *Exhibition*
St. Mary's (IN) 66 Illinois Tech 33
11/14
Concordia Chicago 68 Marian 42
11/15
Concordia Wisconsin 54 Dominican 48
Mount Mary 80 Alverno 66
Lakeland 66 Lawrence 46
11/16
Benedictine 59 Alma 51
Edgewood 78 Lake Forest 72
Anderson (IN) 79 Aurora 78
Spaulding 60 Concordia Chicago 44
Wisconsin Lutheran 67 St. Mary's (IN) 36
St. Norbert 88 Marian 26
11/17
Edgewood 67 Beloit 57
Carthage 82 Marian 40
Adrian 84 Illinois Tech 46
Monmouth (IL) 92 Aurora 72
Hope 69 Benedictine 50
Concordia Wisconsin 77 UW-Platteville 61
Eureka 82 Rockford 53
Webster 73 Concordia Chicago 44
Wisconsin Lutheran 64 Calvin 50
11/19
Lake Forest 87 Illinois Tech 36
11/20
Hope 85 Concordia Wisconsin 62
Benedictine 69 North Central (IL) 67
North Park 75 Concordia Chicago 52
MSOE 54 Mount Mary 43
Lakeland 68 UW-Stevens Point 65
11/21
Knox 74 Rockford 38
11/23
Alverno 64 Crown 50
11/24
La Roche 65 Dominican 60
Benedictine 67 Illinois Tech 26
Wisconsin Lutheran 70 Aurora 57
MSOE 84 Rockford 30
Edgewood 68 Lakeland 50
11/25
Dominican 65 Maryville (TN) 57
11/27
Andrews 72 Illinois Tech 42
Benedictine 63 Lake Forest 48
Carroll (WI) 72 Lakeland 57
Concordia Wisconsin 68 Concordia Chicago 35
11/28
Dominican 60 St. Mary's (IN) 58
12/1
Alverno 68 Illinois Tech 40
Wisconsin Lutheran 57 Concordia Wisconsin 33
MSOE 62 Marian 50
Dominican 75 Rockford 55
Edgewood 58 Concordia Chicago 40
Lakeland 60 Benedictine 50
12/4
Aurora 89 Illinois Tech 37
Wisconsin Lutheran 74 Concordia Chicago 38
Lakeland 77 Concordia Wisconsin 70
MSOE 70 Alverno 55
Rockford 81 Marian 75
Dominican 56 Edgewood 47
12/8
MSOE 57 Illinois Tech 28
Concordia Wisconsin 53 Edgewood 40
Lakeland 74 Marian 31
Aurora 101 Rockford 52
Benedictine 65 Dominican 50
Wisconsin Lutheran 76 Alverno 57
12/10
Maranatha 60 Alverno 45
12/11
UW-Whitewater 48 MSOE 42
Beloit 98 Rockford 73
12/12
UW-La Crosse 87 Marian 38
NACC Standings as of 12/15
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 6-0 (4-0)
2. MSOE 6-1 (4-0)
3. Lakeland 6-2 (3-1)
4. Benedictine 6-2 (2-1)
5. Aurora 2-5 (2-1)
6. Concordia Wisconsin 4-3 (3-2)
7. Dominican 6-3 (2-2)
8. Edgewood 4-2 (2-2)
9. Concordia Chicago 2-6 (2-3)
10. Alverno 2-4 (1-2)
11. Rockford 1-7 (1-3)
12. Illinois Tech 0-8 (0-4)
13. Marian 0-8 (0-5)
12/15 Scores
Lakeland 68 Illinois Tech 29
Wisconsin Lutheran 80 Dominican 51
Alverno 76 Marian 50
Edgewood 97 Rockford 51
Benedictine 73 Concordia Chicago 49
Aurora 72 MSOE 60
NACC Standings
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 7-0 (5-0)
2. Lakeland 7-2 (4-1)
3. MSOE 6-2 (4-1)
4. Benedictine 7-2 (3-1)
5. Aurora 3-5 (3-1)
6. Edgewood 5-2 (3-2)
7. Concordia Wisconsin 4-3 (3-2)
8. Dominican 6-4 (2-3)
9. Alverno 3-4 (2-2)
10. Concordia Chicago 2-7 (2-4)
11. Rockford 1-8 (1-4)
12 Illinois TEch 0-9 (0-4)
13. Marian 0-9 (0-5)
This Week's Matchups
12/18
Mary Washington (MD) (4-5) vs Edgewood (at San Juan P.R.)
Aurora at Alverno
Dominican vs Roosevelt (Exhibition)
12/19
Wisconsin Lutheran vs Montclair State (9-2) (at St. Petersburg FL)
Nazareth (3-3) vs Marian (at Daytona Beach FL)
Lakeland at Finlandia (0-11)
ORV UW-Whitewater (5-3) at Concordia Wisconsin
MSOE at Millikin (2-8)
12/20
Marian vs Stevenson (3-7) (at Daytona Beach, FL)
Edgewood vs Alvernia (3-7) (at San Juan P.R.)
Wisconsin Lutheran vs FDU-Florham (3-5) (at St. Petersburg, FL)
In terms of a national profile the match-up between Wisconsin Lutheran and Montclair State is a big one.
Montclair has won its conference the last four years and was ranked in the Top 25 to start the season. The Red Hawks graduated a lot, but they are still a quality program and I'd be surprised if they don't break into the NCAA Atlantic Region Rankings when we get to February.
If the Warriors can beat Montclair State convincingly, that will catch people's eye. The win over Calvin is also a good one, especially if you compare the margin of victory (+14) to the Knights' game with Top 15 ranked Trine (+12). Of course Wisconsin Lutheran also has to beat an FDU-Florham team that's in transition after losing its coach and best players to Division I.
Quote from: gordonmann on December 18, 2018, 03:48:44 PM
In terms of a national profile the match-up between Wisconsin Lutheran and Montclair State is a big one.
Montclair has won its conference the last four years and was ranked in the Top 25 to start the season. The Red Hawks graduated a lot, but they are still a quality program and I'd be surprised if they don't break into the NCAA Atlantic Region Rankings when we get to February.
If the Warriors can beat Montclair State convincingly, that will catch people's eye. The win over Calvin is also a good one, especially if you compare the margin of victory (+14) to the Knights' game with Top 15 ranked Trine (+12). Of course Wisconsin Lutheran also has to beat an FDU-Florham team that's in transition after losing its coach and best players to Division I.
And WLC does just that.....
Wisconsin Lutheran 12 16 20 10: 58
Montclair State 6 14 15 12: 47
Warriors led wire to wire in this game.
Wisconsin Lutheran 10 18 10 20: 58
FDU-Florham: 6 7 19 17: 49
WLC withstood a second half charge from the Devils to end the Florida trip 2-0. I do believe this breaks the record for best start in program history as well with the Warriors going to 9-0.
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Couple of big games in the conference title race this weekend, with Benedictine at WLC tonight and Lakeland at CUW tomorrow afternoon. By Saturday night, the Warriors could be firmly in the driver's seat, or it could get real interesting...
First women's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-first
Things are starting to shake themselves out in the NACC.
1. (ARV) Wisconsin Lutheran (h) 16-1 (21-1)
2. Benedictine (i) 15-3 (19-4)
3. Lakeland (x) 14-4 (18-5)
3. Concordia Wisconsin (x) 14-4 (16-7)
5. Edgewood 11-7 (14-9)
6. Dominican (x) 11-8 (15-9)
7. MSOE 10-8 (12-11)
7. Aurora 10-8 (10-12)
9. Concordia Chicago (e) 7-11 (7-16)
10. Alverno (e) 5-13 (6-17)
11. Marian (e) 2-16 (2-21)
11. Rockford (e) 2-16 (2-21)
13. Illinois Tech (e) 0-18 (0-22)
(h) Clinched No. 1 seed in NACC Tournament; (x) Clinched NACC Tournament berth; (i) Ineligible for postseason play; (e) Eliminated from NACC Tournament contention
Wisconsin Lutheran is quietly having another outstanding season, only receiving their first top 25 vote in a while this week. With at Rockford, Alverno and Edgewood remaining, they have a magic number of 2 for an outright NACC regular season championship.
Behind them, Lakeland and Concordia Wisconsin will be the No. 2 and 3 seeds. The Muskies have IIT and Alverno at home, while the Falcons finish with Edgewood and at Benedictine. LU also has the tiebreaker.
Dominican clinched a berth with their win over Edgewood last night and their 5-0 head to head record against the other teams in that middle group. A win at Marian would give them the No. 4 seed and a first round home game unless EC wins both of its remaining games.
Edgewood has the toughest remaining schedule - they finish at CUW and then at WLC. One win would clinch a NACC Tournament berth, both would secure the No. 4 seed, but they could still get in even if they don't win either.
Finally, MSOE hosts Aurora on Wednesday in the game of the season for both teams. The tiebreaker possibilities are too numerous to list here, but if they haven't already, the winner can clinch a spot with a win on Saturday (MSOE has Marian at home, while Aurora is at Concordia Chicago), while the loser will need some help to get in.
Regional Rankings Week 2 released: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-second
NACC Standings as of 2/16
1. ORV Wisconsin Lutheran 23-1 (18-1) XY (1)
2. Benedictine (I) 20-4 (16-3)
3. Lakeland 19-5 (15-4) X
4. Concordia Wisconsin 17-7 (15-4) X
5. Dominican 16-9 (12-8) X (4)
6. Aurora 11-12 (11-8) X
7. Edgewood 14-10 (11-8)
8. MSOE 12-12 (10-9)
9. Concordia Chicago 7-17 (7-12)
10. Alverno 6-18 (5-14)
11. Marian 2-22 (2-17)
12. Rockford 2-22 (2-17)
13. Illinois Tech 0-23 (0-19)
2/16 Matchups
Edgewood at Wisconsin Lutheran (Winterfest)
Rockford at Illinois Tech
Concordia Wisconsin at Benedictine
Marian at MSOE
Aurora at Concordia Chicago
Alverno at Lakeland
MSOE and Edgewood will be fighting for the last conference tournament spot on the women's side.
MSOE will get in if:
-Win over Marian and loss by Edgewood to WLC (Owns H2H tiebreaker)
Edgewood will get in if:
-Win over WLC.
If the results play out how I see them playing out, here's is how the conference tournament field will look.
1. Wisconsin Lutheran
2. Lakeland
3. Concordia Wisconsin
4. Dominican
5. Aurora
6. MSOE
With the majority of the results coming in....Here is how the NACC Tournament field would look like.
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 23-1 (19-1)
2. Lakeland* 20-5 (16-4)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 17-8 (15-5)
4. Dominican 16-9 (12-8)
5. Aurora 11-13 (11-9)
6. MSOE 13-12 (11-9)
*: Assuming they beat Alverno
Aurora and MSOE get in over Edgewood due to tiebreakers.
NACC Tournament First Round
#6 MSOE 46
#3 Concordia Wisconsin 57
#5 Aurora 35
#4 Dominican 55
So it will be Lakeland vs. CUW and then WLC vs. Dominican in the semifinals on Friday. Each higher seed won both regular season meetings over their respective opponents, though both LU-CUW games went to OT while the Warriors' wins over the Stars were far more decisive.
The new NCAA Division III women's basketball regional rankings are posted: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-third
I know I am late to the party - but I have a question - I know Benedictine is moving to D2 over the summer, but why are they ineligible for the playoff this year? Is that just for their conference playoff? The odds are beyond slim (near infinitesimal) but could they (if their record was much better) be eligible for the D3 tournament as an 'at large"?
THis goes even deeper in my asking - right now Benedictine's Men's Volleyball is ranked #4 in the country, they are ineligible for their NACC Conference tournament too - so they would need an at large bid to get into the NCAA tournament - is that even a possibility?
(FWIW - I am a Benedictine grad, so I have a bit of a vested interest. ;) )
I believe this was the cost of them being allowed to play a conference schedule this year.
So them not being able to compete in the conference tournament - would that preclude them from competing in the NCAA tournament? Does the ineligibility affect them in getting into the NCAA tournament too? I am mostly referring to the Men's VB who are currently ranked #4 nationally but poised to make it to #3 after beating #3 Dominican tonight.
my understanding is that they're eligible for all Pool C bids but not for the Pool A
Quote from: Caz Bombers on February 21, 2019, 10:19:42 PM
my understanding is that they're eligible for all Pool C bids but not for the Pool A
That sounds right to me. AQ's are up to conference rules; Pool C is an NCAA decision.
Cool, thanks! :)
Benedictine IS eligible for an NCAA at-large bid this season as they are only in transition and thus are a full Division III member. However, the NACC decided as a conference to make them not eligible for conference post-season tournaments. That was a conference decision.
That did NOT change when Benedictine decided to turn about and go the other direction with their move to DII - staying in DIII.
redman822 - Benedictine is NOT moving to DII. They changed their minds in September.
Anyway, they are eligible for NCAA tournaments and the cross country teams were in the NCAA Regionals this past fall.
Thanks Dave, I missed that they changed their minds.
Personally, I never understood the whole logic behind them moving to DII min the first place, but in the grand scheme of things - as an alum, my opinion doesn't matter. ;)
End 1st
Wisconsin Lutheran 16
Illinois Wesleyan 16
Wisconsin Lutheran 29
Illinois Wesleyan 25
Half
Some Stats
FG%
WLC: 12/28 (.429)
IWU: 9/25 (.360)
3-Pt %
WLC: 3/8 (.375)
IWU: 1/9 (.111)
FT%
WLC: 2/3 (.667)
IWU: 6/7 (.857)
Kelly Tamburg leads WLC with 9. Raven Hughes leads IWU with 9
Wisconsin Lutheran 35
Illinois Wesleyan 30
End 3rd
ORV Wisconsin Lutheran 48
#17 Illinois Wesleyan 40
Final
Warriors advance to the round of 32.
Wisconsin Lutheran finshes #24 in the final D3hoops Women's Top 25 poll. Congrats to WLC.
2019-2020 Preseason Poll
1. Wisconsin Lutheran 27-2 (19-1) 312 (15)
2. Benedictine 21-4 (17-3) 299 (9)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 19-9 (15-5) 278 (1)
4. Lakeland 20-6 (16-4) 238
5. Dominican 17-10 (12-8) 210
6. Edgewood 14-11 (11-9) 205
7. Aurora 11-14 (11-9) 192
8. Concordia Chicago 8-17 (8-12) 147
9. MSOE 13-13 (11-9) 137
10. Marian 2-23 (2-18) 87
11. Alverno 6-19 (5-15) 83
12. Rockford 2-23 (2-18) 57
13. Illinois Tech 1-24 (1-19) 30
Also both Wisconsin Lutheran and Benedictine are receiving votes in the initial top 25 poll.
NACC Scores through this past weekend:
11/8
Blackburn 73 Alverno 67
Eureka 78 Rockford 43
UW-River Falls 87 Marian 42
Edgewood 71 Crown 52
Lake Forest 77 MSOE 44
ORV Benedictine 74 Augustana (IL) 69
St. Norbert 59 Lakeland 50
11/9
Edgewood 104 North Central (MN) 78
Northland 95 Alverno 78
#6 Hope 92 ORV Benedictine 48
NACC Standings
1. Edgewood 2-0
2. ORV Benedictine 1-1
3. Aurora 0-0
4. ORV Wisconsin Lutheran 0-0
5. Concordia Wisconsin 0-0
6. Concordia Chicago 0-0
7. Dominican 0-0
8. Illinois Tech 0-0
9. Lakeland 0-1
10. Marian 0-1
11. MSOE 0-1
12. Rockford 0-1
13. Alverno 0-2
Matchups 11/11-11/17
11/11
Dominican 58 Kalamazoo 38
11/12
Lakeland at #14 Wheaton
Marian at Lake Forest
UW-Platteville at Concordia Wisconsin
Concordia Chicago at Rockford
11/13
Aurora at Elmhurst
11/15
Alma vs ORV Wisconsin Lutheran (at Wheaton)
Concordia Chicago at UW-Whitewater
Edgewood vs Illinois College (at Webster)
Ripon at Lakeland
11/16
Wisconsin Lutheran vs TBD (Either #14 Wheaton or Lake Forest)
Edgewood vs TBD (Either Webster or Ozarks)
Mount Mary at Illinois Tech
Millikin at MSOE
Dominican vs Hendrix (at Memphis, TN)
Concordia Chicago vs UW-Stevens Point (at UW-Whitewater)
Rockford at Principia
11/17
Dominican at Rhodes
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On Monday's special edition of Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave chats with a few teams who are off to pretty good starts in the opening month. Some maybe surprising and others with still plenty of questions to be asked.
How good is Baldwin Wallace women and how hard with the OAC be this season? Are the Edgewood women as good as their incredible 9-0 start leads one to believe? And Whitworth men technically have a new coach at the helm, but is this the same Pirates program we've gotten used to over the years?
Plus, we react to what should be brand new men's and women's Top 25 polls.
Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
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- Chaia Huff, Edgewood women's head coach
- Damion Jablonski, No. 20 Whitworth men's coach
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NACC Standings at the Holiday Break.
1. Edgewood 10-0 (5-0)
2. Benedictine 6-1 (4-0)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 6-3 (4-1)
4. MSOE 4-4 (4-1)
5. Aurora 6-2 (3-1)
6. Lakeland 3-7 (3-2)
7. Dominican 6-4 (2-3)
8. Concordia Wisconsin 3-6 (2-3)
9. Marian 2-7 (2-3)
10. Alverno 2-8 (2-3)
11. Concordia Chicago 1-6 (1-4)
12. Rockford 1-9 (0-6)
13. Illinois Tech 0-10 (0-6)
Holiday Break Matchups
12/27
MSOE vs University of New England (at Las Vegas)
12/28
Benedictine vs LeTourneau
12/29
Benedictine vs East Texas Baptist
MSOE vs Emmanuel (MA)
NACC Standings after last night.
1. Benedictine 16-2 (13-0)
2. Edgewood 17-2 (12-2)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 14-4 (12-2)
4. Concordia Wisconsin 11-8 (10-4)
5. Dominican 13-6 (9-5)
6. Lakeland 8-11 (6-8)
7. Aurora 10-8 (7-7)
8. MSOE 6-12 (6-7)
9. Concordia Chicago 6-13 (5-9)
10. Marian 3-15 (3-11)
11. Alverno 3-16 (3-11)
12. Rockford 3-16 (1-13)
13. Illinois Tech 0-17 (0-12)
Women's first Regional Rankings released.
https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-first
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In two weeks, the regular season will be over. If teams want to still be playing in March, the time to get it done is now ... including conference tournaments, some of which start for some this week.
This week will also bring with it a better understanding of which teams are in position to be playing in the NCAA Tournaments.
Monday on
Hoopsville, we will chat with several programs which have positioned themselves atop their conference races and hope home court will help them punch tickets to the NCAA tournaments. However, they also know the difference between playing at home or in the NCAAs could be a single game still to be played.
Guests Schedule (order subject to change):- Charlie Averkamp, Benedictine women's coach- Trent Milby, Berea women's coach
- Jake Ross, Springfield senior guard
- Dean Burrows, Wesley men's coach
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The second week Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-second
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 19, 2020, 03:06:19 PM
The second week Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-second
This has to be the first time to see three NACC teams in the regional rankings. Strong effort by the league this year.
Women's third regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-third
I'd like to think that loser of Edgewood-Benedictine today would be able to get an at-large bid with a 24-3 record, but the numbers don't look like that's likely to happen.
Quote from: Just Bill on March 01, 2020, 03:30:30 PM
I'd like to think that loser of Edgewood-Benedictine today would be able to get an at-large bid with a 24-3 record, but the numbers don't look like that's likely to happen.
Edgewood no chance. Ben U outside chance. They will likely stay behind Wheaton and possibly drop behind UW-LaCrosse in the final RR.
Also, Austin beating Trinity (Tx) today takes another Pool C off the table.
Quote from: GoPerry on March 01, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 01, 2020, 03:30:30 PM
I'd like to think that loser of Edgewood-Benedictine today would be able to get an at-large bid with a 24-3 record, but the numbers don't look like that's likely to happen.
Edgewood no chance. Ben U outside chance. They will likely stay behind Wheaton and possibly drop behind UW-LaCrosse in the final RR.
Also, Austin beating Trinity (Tx) today takes another Pool C off the table.
And both Edgewood (Auto) and Benedictine (Pool C) both get into the field. I believe that is the first time the league got two teams in for the tournament on the women's side.
NACC has a new Commissioner
https://naccsports.org/general/2019-20/releases/20200409v89l34
h/t @d3hoops
https://twitter.com/ILTechAthletics/status/1263123205553827840
QuoteCarissa Sain Named Head Women's Basketball Coach!!!
She spent the previous 12 seasons with the UChicago women's basketball program, including the last 8 as head coach!
I have no idea why you leave a school like UChicago, with stellar academics, money to burn, and outstanding student athletics, for someplace where the WBB program has
three five wins to its credit in its
sixseven-year history as a D3 program. Maybe she wanted a challenge ;) and there are always other considerations like family to take into consideration. Have no doubt she will make a huge difference at Illinois Tech - congrats to the Scarlet Hawks on an amazing hire.
The general consensus from our own digging and from those I have talked to was this was a personal decision. I won't go into anything I can't substantiate, but I believe personal reasons was listed in some presser about it. Sometimes that is a throw-away or used to hide another reason. In this case, I think it is THE reason.
I heard the same thing from people in her profession that they heard it was for personal reasons. Nothing to do with Chicago
Averkamp leaves Benedictine to take over at D-II Hillsdale in Michigan. A bit of rebuilding job as Hillsdale was 6-21 last season, although they did have a winning record in the three previous seasons.
https://benueagles.com/news/2020/7/2/averkamp-steps-down-from-womens-basketball-position.aspx
It seems that I have been the only member of the only (unofficial) fall sport at WashU, with my 100-mile ultramarathon attempt earlier this month to promote the fight for a cure during Rett Syndrome Awareness Month. That attempt fell a bit short in miles and fundraising, so I'm going into overtime to try and reach $5,000 in donations.
Rett Gets Rocked 50K for $5K will commence Friday, October 30 at 8 pm Central, and end at 8 am Halloween morning. Counting donations received (thanks to retired WashU men's basketball coach Mark Edwards and his wife Mary, and to Mike McGrath and his University of Chicago men's basketball program for their donations!) and those yet to be sent and processed, I am at $4,440.53. Very, very close to my goal...which will fund a researcher's work for a month. Wouldn't it be cool if he or she cracked the code for a cure of Rett syndrome, on our dime?!
I reached 86 miles in my "Rett Gets Rocked Virtual Ultra Weekend" October 3-4. I'm very proud of that result, but there's more work to be done. Proceeds from the event will be split between Rettsyndrome.org (the only national organization spearheading research and providing resources for affected patients and their families) and the Rett Spectrum Clinic--a collaboration between the WashU School of Medicine and St. Louis Children's Hospital.
Rett syndrome is a rare, non-inherited neurological disorder that is caused by a gene mutation in the brain. It primarily affects girls (1 in every 10,000 girls develop Rett). It strikes typically when a child is 6-18 months old, and it has the characteristics of ALS, autism, epilepsy, and Parkinson's...all rolled into one sinister disorder. It takes away the child's ability to move and communicate.
In essence, Rett does to a child what Lucy in the "Peanuts" comic strip does to Charlie Brown when he tries to kick the football that she is holding. The only difference is that Charlie Brown can get back up to try again. Those who are afflicted with Rett syndrome don't get another chance to enjoy a vibrant life.
Researchers are working to re-engineer the gene mutation that turns on Rett, so it can be forever turned off. Four drug therapies are in the FDA review pipeline, with one (trofanitide) one level away from review. And, iPad tablets with retinal scan technology are giving those with Rett a voice they haven't had since they were toddlers.
The full court press on Rett is paying off. You can help keep the pressure on Rett, by going to my Rett Racers donation page: https://rettracer.everydayhero.com/us/rett-gets-rocked-2020
Thanks for your time and consideration, and hopefully there will be basketball to play and broadcast at the start of 2021!
Jay Murry
Play-By-Play Announcer, Washington University in St. Louis
Event Director, Rett Gets Rocked 50K for $5K
1/29 NACC WBB FINALS:
Edgewood 73, Marian 56
CUW 72, Alverno 40
WLC 57, MSOE 47
(Anybody know if there were sudden changes at IL Tech WBB? I checked the site and I didn't even see a 20-21 women's hoops schedule for that school?)
1/30 NACC final:
Lakeland 66, CUC 54.
IIT opted out of winter sports a while back.
Thanks.
Late 1/30/21 Finals:
Edgewood 70, Marian 47 (Eagles pulled away by starting a big scoring run midway thru 3rd quarter)
WLC 58, MSOE 48 (Warriors' great FT shooting late in the game was the difference here).
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 30, 2021, 05:46:56 PM
IIT opted out of winter sports a while back.
Not totally surprised with that move. They had issues fielding a team on the women's side the last few years and with this Pandemic would've complicated things.
NACC Standings
North
Edgewood 5-2 (4-0)
WLC 2-0 (2-0)
Concordia Wisconsin 4-2 (2-1)
Marian 2-2 (2-2)
Lakeland 2-1 (1-1)
Alverno 0-3 (0-3)
MSOE 0-5 (0-5)
South
Aurora 1-0 (1-0)
Benedictine 0-0 (0-0)
Concordia Chicago 0-3 (0-0)
Rockford 0-0 (0-0)
Dominican 0-1 (0-1)
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 05, 2021, 12:36:02 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 30, 2021, 05:46:56 PM
IIT opted out of winter sports a while back.
Not totally surprised with that move. They had issues fielding a team on the women's side the last few years and with this Pandemic would've complicated things.
They brought in the U of Chicago coach for this season, so I doubt there will be any issues with WBB in the near future - other than how long it takes her to turn it around.
Joining CUW-Edgewood in progress: Eagles up 42-25 at halftime.
Final: Edgewood 79, CUW 58
(Eagles outshot CUW big in first half-50% to 29%)
CUW at Marian on deck:
After 1 Quarter: Marian 20, CUW 19.
Half: CUW 35, Marian 28 (Falcons went on a scoring run approx. 7-2 near the end of the half)
End of 3rd Qrtr: CUW 53, Marian 47.
Final: CUW 72, Marian 53.
Look in on CUC/Rockford, Regents up 14-10 2nd Qrtr.
Halftime: Concordia-Chicago 25, Rockford 20.
End of 3rd: CUC 40, Rockford 38.
Final: CUC 63, Rockford 46 Cougars' Steinkamp --25 points
Lakeland vs. Edgewood on deck:
End of 1st Qrtr: Lakeland and Edgewood tied at 19.
Half: Edgewood 33, Lakeland 25.
End of 3rd: Edgewood 53, Lakeland 43.
Final: Edgewood 69, Lakeland 49 (Eagles shot 57% in 3rd Quarter to begin to pull away.)
I'm gonna see if Edgewood can do the double on Lakeland for the weekend:
Eagles vs. Muskies on deck.
End of 1st Qrtr: Edgewood 16, Lakeland 15.
Half: Edgewood 38, Lakeland 30.
End of 3rd Qrtr: Edgewood 51, Lakeland 49.
Final: Edgewood 71, Lakeland 65.
(Edgewood's FT shooting late was the difference here.)
Edgewood at CUW up shortly.
After 1 Quarter of play-- Edgewood 22, CUW 13.
Half: Edgewood 34, CUW 21.
End of 3rd Qrtr: Edgewood 56, CUW 40.
Final: Edgewood 69, CUW 45
Eagles: 2nd consecutive game in which they drained 8 3-pt shots
Observations on this weekend's key NACC North match-up:
Edgewood has shown that road games are no problem, sweeping both Lakeland and CUW on the road. The Eagles have been able to come out of the gate fast and hold on in many of their previous games. The Eagles have a lot of ways to beat teams on offense.
Edgewood wins if:
The fast-start pattern is repeated
WLC has a hard time getting shots off when the Warriors have the ball
WLC wins if:
Warrior defense denies Eagle talls the ball inside like they did against Lakeland's Megan Will earlier this season
Warriors are hitting their outside shots.
End of 1st Quarter: WLC 19, Edgewood 18.
Half: WLC 30, Edgewood 28.
Question: Suppose WLC & Edgewood finish tied after this weekend's action, who gets the tie-breaker advantage?
(Edgewood played CUW instead of Alverno, WLC played Alverno, didn't play CUW this year--)
End of 3rd Qrtr: WLC 53, Edgewood 44.
Final: WLC 63, Edgewood 49.
Difference here: WLC's defense- Eagles were held to 2 of 15 from beyond the arc.
Warriors got 13 points off 15 Eagle turnovers.
CUW vs. MSOE just getting underway:
Also keeping tabs on Marian @ Lakeland:
End of 1st Qrtr: CUW 20, MSOE 15.
Lakeland 21, Marian 14.
Half: MSOE 33, CUW 24.
Lakeland 42, Marian 26.
End of 3rd Qrtr: CUW 47, MSOE 40
Lakeland 59, Marian 41
Finals: CUW 69, MSOE 59
Lakeland 70, Marian 56
Just heard Edgewood got the split on the weekend by beating WLC tonight.
Now, in the NACC North, it's down to seeing whether Lakeland or MSOE gets in:
Lakeland gets the last playoff spot in the NACC North.
Benedictine got the top seed in the NACC South by beating Aurora tonight.
NACC WBB Tournament Action (Dominican vs. Aurora) on deck:
End of 1st Qrtr: Aurora 26, Dominican 16.
WLC up 17-2 on Lakeland 3:39 left in 1st Qrtr
Benedictine 12 CUC 7 2:37 left in 1st Qrtr
CUW 8, Edgewood 7 1:10 left in 1st Qrtr.
Half: Aurora 46, Dominican 30.
WLC 38, Lakeland 9 2:55 left in 2nd
Benedictine 29, CUC 13 2:16 left in 2nd
Half: CUW 26, Edgewood 22
WLCALUM83, I see that you have a streak of 43 uninterrupted posts going on the NACC WBB pages.
How many more consecutive posts are you intending to do here?
Quote from: RogK on March 04, 2021, 08:47:02 PM
WLCALUM83, I see that you have a streak of 43 uninterrupted posts going on the NACC WBB pages.
How many more consecutive posts are you intending to do here?
Sounds like he has 1 more reader than he thought. ;)
Only close game going on yet is Edgewood CUW, so I'll shift to that one.
Aurora, Benedictine and WLC all up big as I post.
Edgewood over CUW by 10.
Divisional Final Scores
Benedictine 72 Aurora 64
Wisconsin Lutheran 66 Edgewood 58
Back and forth affair for the North crown. WLC took control of it late in the 4th quarter and salted it away from the line.
NACC Final: Wisconsin Lutheran (10-1) at Benedictine (6-0)
Final: WLC 78, Benedictine 53.
Expected this to be a much closer game.
Warriors shot 54% from the floor.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 13, 2021, 06:08:25 PM
Final: WLC 78, Benedictine 53.
Expected this to be a much closer game.
Warriors shot 54% from the floor.
Concur on that statement. Warriors dominated throughout. That loss to Edgewood made me a take a step back on that matter. Hell of a season for Coach K and the Warriors.
Benedictine has a new WBB coach:
https://www.naccsports.org/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/20210712sc49gh
What happened to Coach Hengesbach at Benedictine? No press release of her leaving, only 2 years in. Anyone know?
Had the honor watching former standout Kristin Schulz and longtime WLC WBB head coach Wayne Smith get inducted into the WLC Athletics Hall of Fame last night.
NACC in-conference action goes into full-swing shortly:
#22 WLC/CUW
Dominican/Benedictine
IL Tech/Aurora
Lakeland/St. Norbert
Edgewood/CUC
Marian/Rockford
MSOE/Alverno (Milwaukee cross-town action here)
(CUW knocked off CUC in the lone previous in-NACC match-up)
St. Norbert 63, Lakeland 43 Final (Green Knights get their in-NACC tenure off to a positive start by limiting Lakeland to one-and-done possessions for a good chunk of the 2nd half while slowly pulling away to get this win at home.
MSOE 66, Alverno 41 Final (MSOE connected on 8 3 pointers and forced 28 Inferno turnovers)
#22 WLC 61, CUW 52 Final (After trailing early, Warriors outscored Falcons 37-21 in 2nd half to get a key win on the road)
CUC 74, Edgewood 73 Final (Cougars' Steinkamp produced their final points, and Edgewood could only get a lay-up at the end and fell short).
Rockford 62, Marian 56 Final (Regents outscored Marian 40-28 in 2nd half, Terhune and Davis put in 42 points combined on the night for them)
Aurora is winning big on IL Tech
Ditto for Benedictine over Dominican
12/7 NACC Finals: (PBP accounts are sources for 1st 2)
ARV WLC 63, Benedictine 60 (Warriors' Mace hit 2 FT's and an IL Eagle turnover on their last possession sealed this win)
CUW 54, MSOE 51 (Falcons scored last 5 points, all on FT's, MSOE's Mensen missed a potential game-tying 3 at the end)
Rockford 58, Edgewood 47 (Regents got 17 pts off 24 Edgewood TO's and 36 pts in the paint) Regents off to a positive in-conference start)
Central-IA 69, CUC 61 (Central-IA outshot CUC from the field 47% to 32%)
Lakeland 61, Alverno 34
St. Norbert 75, Marian 51 (NACC newbies now 3-0 in-conference)
Aurora 100, Dominican 57
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Thanks for the positive PR last night.
Warrior forward Sam Leisemann and guard Ally Gough did not play against Rockford last Saturday.
It wouldn't surprise me if St. Norbert's Jessica Boerner has a field day scoring in today's match-up.
(barring a last-minute change)
Tonight, one team is going to pick up their first NACC win of the season as Alverno (1-11, 0-5 NACC) hosts the Illinois Institute of Technology (IIT a/k/a Illinois Tech) (3-9, 0-6 NACC)
IIT head coach Carissa Sain is hoping to pick up her first NACC win of her coaching career tonight. Coach Sain used to be the head coach of the Chicago Maroons in the UAA, and her assistant, Miranda Burt, played for the Maroons from 2017 to 2020. Coach Sain also played in the UAA for Carnegie Mellon.
Both Alverno and IIT have wins over Mount Mary this season.-- Alverno's only win and 2 of IIT's wins this season have been over this team. Illinois Tech also has a win over Blackburn of the SLIAC this season.
Tip at 7 PM Central/8 PM Eastern
Note: According to the PxP commentary on the Alverno feed, Alverno leads the overall series vs IIT, 6-0, 3-0 in NACC play.
If Illinois Tech wins tonight, it will also be their first NACC road win in program history.
End of first quarter-- Illinois Tech 17, Alverno 11
Julia Bucci leading the IIT Scarlet Hawks with 13 points on 5 of 5 shooting from the field, 2 of 2 from 3 pt land, and 1 of 2 from the charity stripe in the quarter.
Halftime from Reiman Gymnasium in Milwaukee, Wisconsin--
Illinois Tech 30, Alverno 20
Leading scorers for Illinois Tech--
Julia Bucci-- 16 points
Jessica Weaver-- 10 points, 7 rebounds
Julia Bucci leading Illinois Tech with 3 assists
Leading scorers for Alverno--
Angie Reutgen-- 6 points, 4 rebounds
Jewel Zaradha-- 5 points, 4 rebounds
Dom Hudson leading Alverno with 2 assists
Illinois Tech shot 13 of 32 from the field (40.6%), 3 of 4 from 3 pt land (75%), and 1 of 2 from the charity stripe
Alverno shot 8 of 26 from the field (30.8%), 0 of 3 from 3 pt land, and 4 of 5 from the charity stripe.
Illinois Tech outrebounding Alverno, 22-16 (9-5 on the offensive glass)
Illinois Tech made 7 assists and committed 11 turnovers-- 6 of which were as a result of Alverno steals
Alverno made 4 assists and committed 12 turnovers-- 4 of which were as a result of IIT steals
Points off turnovers-- Illinois Tech leading, 9-6
Points in the paint-- Illinois Tech leading, 16-10
Second chance points-- Illinois Tech leading, 8-1
Bench points-- Alverno leading, 8-0
Quote from: deiscanton on January 18, 2022, 07:48:09 PM
Tonight, one team is going to pick up their first NACC win of the season as Alverno (1-11, 0-5 NACC) hosts the Illinois Institute of Technology (IIT a/k/a Illinois Tech) (3-9, 0-6 NACC)
IIT head coach Carissa Sain is hoping to pick up her first NACC win of her coaching career tonight. Coach Sain used to be the head coach of the Chicago Maroons in the UAA, and her assistant, Miranda Burt, played for the Maroons from 2017 to 2020. Coach Sain also played in the UAA for Carnegie Mellon.
Both Alverno and IIT have wins over Mount Mary this season.-- Alverno's only win and 2 of IIT's wins this season have been over this team. Illinois Tech also has a win over Blackburn of the SLIAC this season.
Tip at 7 PM Central/8 PM Eastern
Note: According to the PxP commentary on the Alverno feed, Alverno leads the overall series vs IIT, 6-0, 3-0 in NACC play.
If Illinois Tech wins tonight, it will also be their first NACC road win in program history.
The Scarlet Hawks' home NACC win came on the last day of the '18-19 season, when they knocked off Rockford, 69-58.
End of third quarter--
Alverno 42, Illlinois Tech 40
Alverno picked up the intensity in the third quarter and outscored the Scarlet Hawks in the period, 22-10.
The Inferno had a 52.9% FG shooting quarter (9 of 17), 60% from 3 pt land to take the lead (3 of 5).
Inferno also got several points off of steals during a scoring run in the 3rd as well.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 18, 2022, 09:20:03 PM
Inferno also got several points off of steals during a scoring run in the 3rd as well.
Inferno currently leading in points off turnovers for the game, 20-15. Scarlet Hawks led in that category 9-6 at halftime.
Illinois Tech 51, Alverno 47 3:23 left in regulation
2 Scarlet Hawks in foul trouble at 4 fouls-- Dereniece Moton and Jessica Weaver.
End of regulation
Illinois Tech 54, Alverno 54
Heading to overtime.
End of first overtime--
Illinois Tech 61, Alverno 61
Heading to a second OT period.
In other NACC In-Conference Action:
#21 WLC 63, Marian 46 (Warriors outscored Marian 19-6 in 3rd Qrtr to get a cushion and get another win, at home.
St. Norbert 69, Concordia-WI 64 (Falcons fall to 3rd with this loss, Warriors already knocked off 2nd place Green Knights)
Edgewood 68, Dominican 53
MSOE 67, Lakeland 53
Aurora 64, CUC 55
Benedictine 69, Rockford 33
IL Tech gets it done on the road, 73-66!
Final in double OT from Reiman Gym in Milwaukee, Wisconsin--
Illinois Tech 73, Alverno 66 (F-2OT).
Coach Carissa Sain picks up her first ever NACC win.
Illinois Tech picks up their first ever NACC road win in program history-- this victory ends a 26 game conference losing streak for the Scarlet Hawks.
Illinois Tech picks up their first ever victory over Alverno in program history.
Illinois Tech improves to 4-9, 1-6 in the NACC
Alverno drops to 1-12, 0-6 in the NACC.
Leading scorers for Illinois Tech
Julia Bucci with 30 points and 15 rebounds
Dereniece Moton with 17 points
Jessica Weaver with 16 points and 19 rebounds
Julia Bucci led Illinois Tech with 4 assists
Leading scorers for Alverno
Angie Reutgen with 17 points and 7 rebounds
Jewel Zaradha with 15 points and 11 rebounds
Morgan Golabowski with 10 points
Dom Hudson with 9 points and 9 assists
Illinois Tech shot 28 of 77 from the field (36.4%), 7 of 15 from 3 pt land (46.7%), and 10 of 18 from the charity stripe (55.6%)
Alverno shot 26 of 79 from the field (32.9%), 4 of 15 from 3 pt land (26.7%), and 10 of 21 from the charity stripe (47.6%)
Illinois Tech outrebounded Alverno 61-49, 24-19 on the offensive glass
Illinois Tech made 10 assists and committed 27 turnovers-- 16 of which were as a result of Alverno steals
Alverno made 15 assists and committed 20 turnovers-- 10 of which were as a result of IIT steals
Points off turnovers-- Alverno won that category, 28-20
Points in the paint-- Illinois Tech won that category, 36-34
Second chance points-- Illinois Tech won that one, 16-15
Bench points-- Alverno won that category, 25-4
A final note-- I enjoyed watching this game, and I was glad to see Coach Carissa Sain get her first NACC win this evening. I saw her a lot of times when she played and coached against my alma mater, Brandeis, and I am glad to see that she is hanging in there in her new conference with her new team.
#21 WLC gets Concordia-Chicago at home today.
Developing. . .
1/22/22 NACC Afternoon Game Finals:
St. Norbert 88, Dominican 50 (Up 12 at half, Green Knights made a huge early 3rd Qrtr scoring run to put this one out of reach.)
Marian 66, IL Tech 42 (Sabers got 31 pts off 23 Scarlet Hawk turnovers)
#21 WLC 77, Concordia-Chicago 49 (Warriors had a 28-7 lead after the 1st Qrtr and basically stayed in control the rest of the way.)
Aurora 76, Concordia-WI 64
Edgewood 85, Lakeland 56
Rockford 57, MSOE 48 (Raiders went into a cold-shooting period the last 1 1/2 minutes, Regents were 16-21 from charity stripe compared to Raiders 6-7, Regents also got 18 pts off turnovers)
Benedictine/Alverno -- Later
With those results, WLC and St. Norbert gain a bit more distance at the top of the NACC. CUW may fall to 4th if Benedictine wins tonight.
1/25/22 NACC Finals:
St. Norbert 69, MSOE 50 (Raiders led 22-12 at one point but a 19-5 Green Knight run gave St. Norbert a lead they would not relinquish the rest of the way.)
#17 WLC 74, Alveno 30 (Warriors remain at the top of the NACC with this win)
Benedictine won over IL Tech bigger than WLC's win was (IL Eagles hit 9 3-pointers on the night)
Lakeland/Marian, CUC/Rockford and CUW/Dominican still in progress yet.
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 25, 2022, 09:28:21 PM
1/25/22 NACC Finals:
St. Norbert 69, MSOE 50 (Raiders led 22-12 at one point but a 19-5 Green Knight run gave St. Norbert a lead they would not relinquish the rest of the way.)
#17 WLC 74, Alveno 30 (Warriors remain at the top of the NACC with this win)
Benedictine won over IL Tech bigger than WLC's win was (IL Eagles hit 9 3-pointers on the night)
Lakeland/Marian, CUC/Rockford and CUW/Dominican still in progress yet.
Marian 66, Lakeland 60 (Muskies made it closer in the 2nd half, but clutch Saber FT-shooting enabled them to hang on for the win--Paris Harris--18 points)
CUW 64, Dominican 46 (Falcons Obry a double-double --13 pts 11 rebounds)
Rockford 66, CUC 50 (Reigning NACC POTW Davis a double-double --15 pts 14 rebounds; Rockford had a 53-36 rebounding edge and 36 points in the paint to CUC's 16)
St. Norbert/Benedictine is THE key in-NACC match-up 1/29/22.
THIS JUST IN:
All women's NACC squads will be in the conference tournament. (Rationale was to be fair to the squads who didn't play the same number of in-conference games this year-with COVID cancellations and what-not.)
Per NACC site the following 2/19/22 matchups have been cancelled:
WLC/MSOE
IL Tech/Rockford
Benedictine/Aurora
Dominican/CUC
Lakeland/CUW
Edgewood/St. Norbert
Marian/Alverno
Top 2 finishers get 1st round byes.
1/29/22 NACC Finals:
#17 WLC 70, Rockford 39
Benedictine 61, St. Norbert 59 (Green Knights, down 11 at half, made a 3rd Qrtr. run to make this one real interesting. IL Eagles held them off at home)
Dominican 62, Marian 41
Lakeland 66, IL Tech 50
Aurora won big over Alverno
Edgewood 56, MSOE 48
With those results, the Warriors are 2 games up on St. Norbert in the loss column-however, with Lakeland, Aurora, St. Norbert and NC Carthage still on the schedule yet, things at the top of the NACC could still change quite a bit.
2 1 22 Results:
#14 WLC 70, Lakeland 49 (Warriors got off to another hot early start, and held on)
St. Norbert all over Alverno
Ditto for Benedictine over CUC
CUW 71, Marian 55
Edgewood 90, IL Tech 54
Aurora 74, MSOE 61 (Spartans got on a 2nd Qrtr scoring run, and after that, led the rest of the way)
And, in the only real tight NACC game tonight-Rockford over Dominican 59-49 (Regents trailed by 13 early, took the lead in the 4th Qrtr and used an 11-2 scoring run over the last 2:36 to seal this one. Davis another double-double 25 pts, 22 rebounds and Regents' clutch FT shooting near the end was the difference here.)
Remaining in-NACC schedule for top 5:
WLC: vs. Aurora, vs. Alverno, at IL Tech, at St. Norbert (Spartans and Green Knights, on paper, appear to be the Warriors' toughest matchups yet)
St. Norbert: at Edgewood, vs. IL Tech, at MSOE, at CUC, vs. WLC
Concordia-WI: vs. Benedictine, vs. Dominican, at Edgewood, at Alverno
Benedictine: at Concordia-WI, at IL Tech, vs. Lakeland, at Edgewood
Aurora: at WLC, vs. Edgewood, vs. Lakeland, vs. Marian, at Rockford
Current #6 NACC seed Edgewood's got a chance to throw a wrench in the works if the WI Eagles were to knock off all 4 top NACC contenders.
2/5 NACC Final:
#14 WLC 76, Aurora 69 (WLC, trailing 58-54 at one point, went on an 11-0 scoring run, and then hit their FTs late and hung on for a key in-NACC win at home)
Other 2/5/22 NACC Finals:
St. Norbert keeps the pressure on, winning big over IL Tech
Benedictine 68, CUW 53
MSOE 76, CUC 59 (MSOE shot 61% from the field)
Edgewood 82, Marian 65 (Eagles' Pikulyk- 24 pts)
Rockford 60, Lakeland 54 (another Regent come-from behind win)
Unless I'm missing something, WLC can clinch the top spot for the NACC Tournament with a win over Alverno at home tonight. In that event, the Warriors would finish conference play with no worse than 2 in-NACC losses, and St. Norbert and Benedictine have 3 in-NACC losses each going into tonight's action.
Rockford and Lakeland have chances to hold seeding to get NACC Opening Round home games with wins tonight. The Regents get CUC and Lakeland plays Marian.
Edgewood/Aurora is another interesting matchup. The Spartans may be a bit hungrier after leading for more than half the game last Saturday at WLC, only to lose after a late Warrior scoring run. WI Eagles have a better chance if Spartans aren't connecting on 3s and aren't allowed to get a big lead early.
2/8/22 NACC Finals:
#15 WLC won big over Alverno
CUW 70, Dominican 45 (Stars led early, but after a strong 2nd Qrtr, the Falcons were never headed)
St. Norbert 55, MSOE 41 (Green Knights outshot MSOE 43 to 30% from the floor for the game)
Benedictine won big over IL Tech
Edgewood 91, Aurora 65 (WI Eagles outshot Spartans 52% to 35% for the game and got 25 pts off Aurora turnovers)
Lakeland 65, Marian 50
Rockford 61, CUC 59 (Regents' Davis hit 2 FTs with 9 seconds left, and CUC's Gardner missed a potential game-winning 3 pt shot.)
NACC Opening Round Home Game Batttle:
Lakeland is in the 8th spot at the moment. MSOE is 9th and needs to win at Dominican and at Marian, and also needs at least one Muskie loss for a chance at a home in-NACC Tournament game. (Lakeland gets Aurora and Benedictine on the road, and Concordia-Chicago at home yet). The Raiders beat Lakeland head to head.
Rockford has Alverno, Aurora and IL Tech to play yet. The Regents, on paper, have a great chance to win 2 of those 3 games. Aurora also has Lakeland and Marian yet. I'd be surprised if Rockford overtakes Aurora for a higher seed.
NACC Non-Conference Final:
WLC 55, Carthage 47 (Warriors, trailing for most of the game, outshot Carthage 75% to 25% in the 4th Quarter to get the win on the road. Talk about lucking out.)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 09, 2022, 09:43:53 PM
NACC Non-Conference Final:
WLC 55, Carthage 47 (Warriors, trailing for most of the game, outshot Carthage 75% to 25% in the 4th Quarter to get the win on the road. Talk about lucking out.)
Interesting game. Was this game always on the schedule for now or rescheduled or an added game after both teams lost one previously?
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on February 10, 2022, 01:00:21 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 09, 2022, 09:43:53 PM
NACC Non-Conference Final:
WLC 55, Carthage 47 (Warriors, trailing for most of the game, outshot Carthage 75% to 25% in the 4th Quarter to get the win on the road. Talk about lucking out.)
Interesting game. Was this game always on the schedule for now or rescheduled or an added game after both teams lost one previously?
This game had to be rescheduled. Around the time it was to originally be played, a high-profile (Kyle Rittenhouse) trial was going on (verdict deliberations if memory serves correct) and the game was rescheduled out of safety concerns
2/11/22 In-NACC Final:
Aurora 112, Lakeland 67 (Spartans shot 60% from the floor for the game, hitting ten 3s-leading by 14 at half, they outscored the Muskes 34-12 to break this one open. This was somewhat expected, after Aurora took frustrating losses in its' last 2 NACC games. MSOE gets a bit of help with conference playoff positioning.)
2/12/22 NACC Finals:
#15 WLC 62, IL Tech 32
St. Norbert 54, Concordia-Chicago 38
Edgewood 63, Concordia-WI 54 (WI Eagles hit their FT's late to seal this one)
Rockfor80, Alverno 56
Dominican 50, MSOE 45 (Stars hit 8 3-pointers in the game)
Aurora 87, Marian 61
Lakeland 69, Benedictine 65 (Muskies' Felsinger hit 2 FT's with 3 seconds left to give Lakeland the mild upset win.)
With those results, St. Norbert will be hungry to get a win against WLC on Tuesday, with the #2 seed and second bye on the line.(A Green Knight loss coupled with a Benedictine win over Edgewood would lead to a tiebreaker sort out between St. Norbert and Benedictine --they split head-to-head) Edgewood can overtake Benedictine for the third seed if they beat the IL Eagles (Edgewood would also have the head-to-head tiebreaker); CUW needs to beat Alverno and have Aurora lose to Rockford to hold on to #5 position. Lakeland can clinch the 8 seed (and an opening round game at home) with a win over CUC, regardless of how MSOE does against Marian. Unless I'm missing something, Rockford will hold on to the 7th seed, even with a loss and a Lakeland win (Regents beat Muskies head-to-head).
MSOE, CUC, Marian, Dominican, IL Tech and Alverno are going on the road for their opening round NACC playoff games.
Rockford's top player (Davis) was not in the starting line-up tonight vs. Aurora.
Developing. . .
2/15/22 NACC Finals:
St. Norbert 59, #15 WLC 56 (Warriors, down 19 in 2nd Qrtr, made a strong run, but fell short--Green Knights got 23 pts off 17 WLC turnovers)
Benedictine 76, Edgewood 50 (IL Eagles outshot Edgewood 48% to 33% for the game)
CUW 69, Alverno 45 (Falcons hit 8 3s in the game and had a 41-28 rebound edge
Dominican 53, IL Tech 39 (Stars 28 pts off turnovers)
CUC 54, Lakeland 44 (Cougars outshot Lakeland 35% to 22% for the game.
Marian 48, MSOE 37 (Sabers' Paris Harris --16 pts)
Aurora 82, Rockford 60 (Davis did not play--Spartans broke this one open in 2nd half)
With those results, #1 WLC and #2 St, Norbert both get opening round byes.
2/19/22 Match Ups:
#3 Benedictine vs. #14 Alverno
#4 Edgewood vs. #13 IL Tech
#5 Aurora vs. #12 Dominican
#6 CUW vs. #11 Marian
#7 Rockford vs. #10 MSOE
#8 Lakeland vs. # 9 CUC (2nd consecutive match-up between these squads)
Immediate opening round takes: If Rockford's Davis can't play vs. MSOE, don't be surprised if the Raiders pull off a mild upset. Lakeland and CUC split previous matchups. On paper, all other higher seeds figure to advance unless a higher seed has a totally flat game.
Opening round NACC Playoff update:
Edgewood won big on IL Tech (Scarlet Hawks' Bucci didn't play. Edgewood got 44 pts in the paint)
In 2:00 start game developments: Rockford's Anaya Davis is playing vs. MSOE today (anyone with 19 double-double games going in--that's very valuable to have available.)
2/19/22 Mid-Afternoon NACC Opening Round Finals:
Aurora 102, Dominican 56 (Spartans outshot Stars 48% to 33% for the game. Aurora also hit 12 3-pointers)
Lakeland 71. CUC 54 (Muskies got off to a fast start right away, and the Cougars generally didn't recover)
CUW 51, Marian 39 (A Falcon 21-12 outscoring in 3rd Qrtr gave that squad the needed distance to hold on)
Rockford 52, MSOE 45 (Davis her 20th double-double -11 pts, 12 rebounds--Stevens also 11 pts)
Benedictine/Alverno later:
2/23 Pairings:
#8 Lakeland/#1 WLC (Warriors won earlier matchup on the road)
#5 Aurora vs. #4 Edgewood
#3 Benedictine vs. #6 CUW (barring an unexpected Alverno upset)
#2 St. Norbert vs. #7 Rockford
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2/23/22 1st NACC Final:
St. Norbert 60, Rockford 46 (Rockford had it down to a 12 pt deficit with less than 4 minutes remaining, but the Regents missed more of their shots from that point on.) (Davis yet another double-double. I'd be shocked if she doesn't make NACC All-Conference) Green Knights hit 8 3s in the game and move on to take on CUW/Benedictine winner.
More Finals:
Benedictine 74, CUW 40 (IL Eagles outshot Falcons 38% to 19% to race out to a 22-6 lead at the end of the 1st Qrtr and coasted.)
Edgewood 70, Aurora 62 (WI Eagles led most of the way but needed to hit FTs in the end to seal it).
WLC 52, Lakeland 51 (A Sam Leisemann lay-up with 6 seconds left was the difference here, Muskies' Sauerbrei missed the potential game winner at the very end. Whew!)
NACC Semi-Final Pairings:
WLC vs. Edgewood
St. Norbert vs. Benedictine
2/25 NACC Finals: St. Norbert 54, Benedictine 51 (Green Knights' Gierczak hit 2 crucial FTs, and a potential game-tying 3 pointer by Brilan McCory missed).
WLC 59, Edgewood 48 (Down 47-45, WLC outscored Edgewood 14-3 over the last 4 1/2 minutes to advance to the NACC Final. Warriors' Mace and Birkholz scored 16 and 13 pts, respectively.)
Itl'll be WLC vs. St. Norbert for the NACC AQ.
Final: #20 WLC 51, St. Norbert 43 (Warriors: Drained 8 3 pointers and Meggie Scott made 2 FTs with 17 seconds left to seal this one).
NACC All-Conference/Other Post-Season Awards Announced:
https://www.naccsports.org/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/202203012truj9
I'll give an Honorable Mention to St. Norbert coach Leonhard-Perry (going from 9-16 in 19-20 to 19-8 after not competing in 20-21 speaks for itself--)
Despite the NCAA Tournament one and done, WLC still finishes in the Top 25 for the year.
Just a year-end shout-out to St. Norbert for making a strong showing in most team sports in the NACC for 2021-22!
Opening Week Scores
11/8
Aurora 80 Elmhurst 75
#8 Trine 77 Benedictine 34
Dubuque 86 Marian 57
Lawrence 58 Rockford 46
Knox 76 Dominican 45
Wartburg 101 Edgewood 68
Carroll 85 MSOE 31
Illinois Tech 72 Mount Mary 62
11/9
#22 UW-Oshkosh 60 Lakeland 43
11/11
ORV Illinois Wesleyan 86 Concordia Wisconsin 38
Aurora 98 Mississippi Univ for Women 55
Colorado College 99 Concordia Chicago 95
St. Norbert 74 Lawrence 63
Loras 68 Marian 55
Calvin 65 ORV Wisconsin Lutheran 57
11/12
North Central (MN) 64 Alverno 34
Sul Ross State 85 Concordia Chicago 83
Adrian 91 Illinois Tech 54
Ripon 88 Lakeland 71
Concordia Wisconsin 81 Geneva 72
Simpson 96 Marian 39
St. Mary's (IN) 80 Dominican 57
Webster 70 Aurora 56
ORV Wisconsin Lutheran 64 ORV DePauw 56
St. Norbert 64 Carthage 49
Wisconsin Lutheran 71
Carthage 51
A 42-17 run in the second and third quarters was the difference in this one.
Warriors continue their rugged non-con slate with a matchup against top ranked Hope up next.
Congrats to CUC's Katharine Benes for making d3hoops Team of the Week and repeating as NACC Player of the Week!
CUC will go into holiday break 2-0 in NACC (3-3 overall) after beating a pesky IIT team 84-75. Visitors jumped out to a 14-4 lead, but the Cougars scored the next 17 points to take control.
Kate Benes, despite scoring 24 points, had a rough shooting day but made up for it by throwing in 15 rebounds (!) and six assists. Melia Perry had a breakout game with 22 points, and Alisyn MacGregor just missed a double-double with 15 points and nine boards.
IIT shot the three very well, connecting on 15 of 32. Allie Sillo (26 points) was on fire, making eight of her 10 trey attempts.
Quote from: Second Wind on November 23, 2022, 05:18:23 PM
CUC will go into holiday break 2-0 in NACC (3-3 overall) after beating a pesky IIT team 84-75. Visitors jumped out to a 14-4 lead, but the Cougars scored the next 17 points to take control.
Kate Benes, despite scoring 24 points, had a rough shooting day but made up for it by throwing in 15 rebounds (!) and six assists. Melia Perry had a breakout game with 22 points, and Alisyn MacGregor just missed a double-double with 15 points and nine boards.
IIT shot the three very well, connecting on 15 of 32. Allie Sillo (26 points) was on fire, making eight of her 10 trey attempts.
CUC has been playing well...definitely a team on my radar...would like to see them play better defense, but that will come with time. 2-0 in conference is a pretty solid way to start!
CUC 73, Edgewood 60. Cougars now 4-3, 3-0 NACC.
Not as tense as men's game last night. Cougars led for virtually the entire game and by as much as 20. Kate Benes and Alexis Desjarlait did much of the damage with 23 and 20 points respectively, and Alisyn MacGregor was a force inside with 17 rebounds. It was good to see Mikalah Ellis on the floor for the first time this season too. Ellis should make the Cougars even more dangerous as her playing time increases.
CUC looks to stay on a roll when they play at Alverno on Saturday.
Welcome to the board, Second Wind! I see your Cougar squad already knocked off yearly NACC power Concordia-WI (who beat WLC last night at home). CUC, while picked to finish 9th, has been playing better than that to this point.
Could this be CUC's best squad since 2007-08, when Marche Smith, "Mo" Headen & Co. got to the NACC semi-finals and came within a whisker of upsetting WLC that year. (In that '08 game, Smith had to sit after getting into early foul trouble. The Warriors got a big lead in the 2nd half, only to see the Cougars claw back, and if Headen hadn't missed a last-second lay-up, that game would have gone to OT--) Too early to tell just yet, but it makes things interesting when a projected underdog squad unexpectedly shakes things up. ;) ;)
Hey there, WLC Alum! I remember that 2008 semifinal too! I can tell you that a few comparisons have been made between Kate Benes and Marche Smith. Of course, Benes' Cougar career is all of just seven games old, so let's not get too far ahead of ourselves!
As to your comment about the team, I think they have the potential to be there with the 2007-08 team
(and don't forget the Rusty Rogers team that had Courtney Lofink and Taylor Jacobsen. Very fun to watch!). Waiting to see how the NACC race shapes up. I'm sure WLC and CUW will be there, and looks like Aurora has been playing well. Hopefully a lot to talk about this season!
Quote from: Second Wind on December 01, 2022, 12:10:54 PM
Hey there, WLC Alum! I remember that 2008 semifinal too! I can tell you that a few comparisons have been made between Kate Benes and Marche Smith. Of course, Benes' Cougar career is all of just seven games old, so let's not get too far ahead of ourselves!
As to your comment about the team, I think they have the potential to be there with the 2007-08 team
(and don't forget the Rusty Rogers team that had Courtney Lofink and Taylor Jacobsen. Very fun to watch!). Waiting to see how the NACC race shapes up. I'm sure WLC and CUW will be there, and looks like Aurora has been playing well. Hopefully a lot to talk about this season!
The NACC is going to be super deep this season. A very fun title race to watch indeed. Kate has been so impressive...seems like she can single-handedly keep CUC in a game if need be.
Riley, what I like about Benes is that despite being "only" 5-3, she is not afraid to drive the lane against the "trees."
CUC 85, Alverno 50. Cougars 5-3, 4-0 NACC.
First quarter was a wild one. Alverno hit four early threes (but just one more the rest of the game). The Inferno raged for 18 points in those first 10 minutes, but Kate Benes scored CUC's first 17 points - a hot start indeed! Cougars led 28-18 after one before running away over the final three quarters. Coach Martin was able to get 16 of her players some valuable experience tonight. Benes finished with 31 points and Melia Perry with 18.
CUC hosts Marian next Saturday and then have a break from conference play until January.
NACC 2021-22 Freshman of the Year Anaya Davis isn't listed on Rockford's roster this year. Where her play is missed is in the rebounding department--
Only other score I'm surprised about is St. Norbert winning as big as it did over Aurora yesterday.
CUC 76, Marian 62. Cougars now 6-3, 5-0 NACC.
The Cougars stayed perfect in the conference, taking a 25 point lead by halftime. They were never seriously threatened, although a good fourth quarter by Marian made the final score more respectable.
Alexis Desjarlait took the spotlight tonight, out scoring the Sabres all by herself in the first half (23-19). She finished with her first career double-double of 30 points and 11 rebounds. Kate Benes added 18 points.
Now the question is, can CUC stay hot with only one more game in December (at North Central on the 19th) and conference play not resuming until January 4?
at North Central 83, CUC 74, Cougars now 6-4.
The Cougar women nearly pulled off a nice comeback win today, erasing a 12-point halftime deficit to take a seven-point lead with under eight minutes remaining. But it was too much Allison Pearson down the stretch as NCC went on a closing 27-11 run.
Jaylene Wade's three gave the Cougars a 63-56 lead at the 7:52 mark. The lead was still at six when Pearson scored the Cardinals' next 11 points including a trio of threes. Pearson had 17 in the quarter, 32 for the game, and the Cardinals scored 35 in the fourth quarter after a seven-point third.
Kate Benes led CUC with 22 points, followed by Wade with 19. Good news for Cougars was Mikalah Ellis with 11 points in 16 minutes off the bench. Ellis has been back only the last few games but today's game is a good sign of things to come. The Cougars return to conference play January 4 when they host Dominican.
Everyone have a Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah and enjoy your fill of those holiday tournaments!
1/4/23: Aurora vs. Benedictine and Edgewood/St. Norbert appear to be the top 2 NACC match-ups on paper.
MSOE/WLC and CUC/Dominican are cross-town rivalry games.
Between Rockford/Marian and Alverno/IL Tech possibly 2 teams could get off the in-conference
schneid.
1st Final: St. Norbert 85, Edgewood 55 (Green Knights took lead early and pulled away early for the at home win here.
2nd Final: Rockford 53, Marian 45 (despite being out-rebounded 44-23, the Regents hang with Marian and hit some key shots toward the end to pull away late and assure that 2 NACC teams get off the schneid tonight.)
3rd Final: WLC 43, MSOE 36 (Warriors hold off a 2nd half MSOE run to get a win at home)
4th Final: Lakeland 58, CUW 42 (Falcons got off to a slow start,and didn't get over the hump.)
5th Final: CUC 76, Dominican 60 (3 Cougar players scored in double figures, another big scoring night for Benes
6th Final: Aurora 62, Benedictine 59 (a late IL Eagle rally falls short
7th Final: IL Tech 71, Alverno 69 (A Kaya Jones 3-point play sealed this come-from behind win)
Inferno led by 12 at halftime.
CUC 76, Dominican 60, Cougars now 7-4, 6-0 NACC.
Looking at the teams' records going into the game, you might have expected the Cougars to win in a cakewalk. And yet, while CUC led from start to finish, the Stars were within four points midway through the fourth quarter. A strong closing burst by the home team put away any thoughts of an upset.
As WLC Alum noted, Kate Benes scored 22 points, but only six of those were in the second half. Alexis Desjarlait and Jaylene Wade picked up the slack though, finishing with 17 and 15 respectively. Also, Alisyn MacGregor corralled 21 rebounds and Mikalah Ellis 12 as CUC won the battle of the boards 59-41.
Concordia Wisconsin visits Geiseman on Saturday. Should be an interesting rematch as Cougars edged the Falcons in an early season match at Buuck.
1/7/23: Final Aurora 93, Alverno 59 (Spartans outscored Inferno 34-11 in 2nd Quarter to break this one open.
Of the other NACC games, Benedictine/St. Norbert appears to be the most interesting, on paper. WLC/Rockford: Warriors need to take care of the ball-if the Regents get a lot of points off turnovers, this may be tighter than expected. CUW/CUC: Falcons' Lassiter is out injured (primarily known to crash the boards and get to the line). IL Tech/Lakeland and Dominican/Marian: Scarlet Hawks have a chance to get a 2nd win in a row at home. Potential X-factor in the latter matchup? Marian's Paris Harris (went on a hot scoring run early in 2nd half vs. Rockford).
Edgewood 64, MSOE 49 less than 1 min left. (WI Eagles outshot MSOE 48.5% to 29% in 1st half to take a 9 point lead, and barring very crazy developments, will get a road win here)
More 1/7/23 Finals:
Marian 70, Dominican 62 (Stars cut the deficit down to 5, but Marian hit late FTs to seal this)
CUW 76, CUC 55 (Falcons outshot Cougars 46% to 31% from the floor
WLC 79, Rockford 37 (Regents only 9 points off 17 Warrior turnovers-Warriors 40 bench points)
Lakeland 86, IL Tech 70 (23-14 2nd quarter Muskie run broke this one open)
St. Norbert 63, Benedictine 59 (Green Knights hit their late FTs to get a key win on the road)
CUW 76, CUC 55, Cougars now 7-5, 6-1 NACC.
The Cougars ceded their share of first place as very little went well for them today. Kate Benes went off for 27 points with a couple of her five threes coming from NBA distance. But outside of Mikalah Ellis' 17, Benes had little help. The Falcons got solid contributions from their front court players and also shot a fine 11-19 from long range, led by Reagan Obry's 5-6.
The Cougars now hit the road for three straight, starting Wednesday at Lakeland.
1/11/23 NACC Finals:
CUW 67, Alverno 42 - Falcons hit 9 3 pointers on the night
Marian 58, MSOE 51 (Marian 36 points in the paint-1 of MSOE's forwards was in early foul trouble
St. Norbert 60, WLC 58 Hogensin shot missed-Green Knights get breathing room at the top of the NACC
IIT 85, Dominican 83 OT IIT hit OT FTs, a last second Star long range shot fell short-IIT gets in-NACC win 2
Edgewood 77, Benedictine 55 (49 to 31% shooting pcts, WI Eagles higher of the 2)
Lakeland 59, CUC 54 (Gardner's 2 FT's provided the Muskies with enough distance to get a key home win)
Aurora 64, Rockford 44 Spartans 8 3 pointers., 23 points off turnovers
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 11, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
1/11/23 NACC Finals:
CUW 67, Alverno 42 - Falcons hit 9 3 pointers on the night
Marian 58, MSOE 51 (Marian 36 points in the paint-1 of MSOE's forwards was in early foul trouble
St. Norbert 60, WLC 58 Hogensin shot missed-Green Knights get breathing room at the top of the NACC
IIT 85, Dominican 83 OT IIT hit OT FTs, a last second Star long range shot fell short-IIT gets off the NACC schneid)
Edgewood 77, Benedictine 55 (49 to 31% shooting pcts, WI Eagles higher of the 2)
Lakeland 59, CUC 54 (Gardner's 2 FT's provided the Muskies with enough distance to get a key home win)
Aurora 64, Rockford 44 Spartans 8 3 pointers., 23 points off turnovers
Any idea why Kate Benes didn't play for CUC tonight? With her on the floor, they win that game.
No idea why no Benes last night. It's been a rough two weeks at CUC, hoping Benes will be back when Cougars play at Marian on Saturday.
CUC 68 at Marian 61, Cougars now 8-6, 7-2 NACC.
After a one game absence, the Kate Benes show was on full display today, and the Cougars needed it! Benes scored 38 after a slow start and rescued the Cougars on a day when neither team shot particularly well. The scoring drops down to Melia Perry with 11 and Mikalah Ellis with 10, although Ellis hit a big three with 20 seconds left that effectively sealed the deal.
A big win for CUC with their next two games at Aurora and at home versus WLC.
1/18/23 Finals:
Lakeland 68, MSOE 60 (Muskies hit 9 3-pointers on the night)
WLC 88, Marian 42 (36 pts off 25 Marian turnovers, 48 pts in paint)
St. Norbert 81, CUW 36 (Green Knights-38 pts off 23 Falcon turnovers, Green Knights outshot CUW 53 to
23% from floor)
Aurora 76, CUC 66 (Benes didn't play, every time Cougars threatened, Spartans answered.)
Edgewood 58, Dominican 41 (Eagles had 64-42 edge rebounding)
Benedictine 51, Rockford 47 (Late Regent rally falls short, Terhune missed a potential game-tying shot, then
Eagles' Lake hit 2 FT's to seal this one)
IIT 83, Alverno 51 (Scarlet Hawks got off to a fast start and were never headed--Bucci 25 pts)
With those results, WLC leapfrogs both Concordia squads and gets into 3rd place for the time being. St. Norbert and Aurora get more distance - (teams are finding out they have to be darn good at taking care of the ball on offense against the Green Knights,--give 'em too many turnovers and they'll take miles)
1/25/23 Finals:
Lakeland 76, Marian 51 (Muskies broke this one open in the 2nd half)
St. Norbert 67, MSOE 51
Rockford 66, CUC 50 (Regents' Clark a double double-they also connected on a lot of 3s)
WLC 77, Alverno 33
CUW 75, Dominican 70 (9-4 scoring run over last 5 minutes gives the Falcons the win here)
Benedictine 64, IIT 51
Edgewood 69, Aurora 62 (Spartan rally falls short-Eagles' Bonser 17 pts)
With those results, WLC is now tied with Aurora in 2nd place, CUW leapfrogs CUC and Edgewood and CUC falls below Benedictine and Lakeland. Rockford moves within 1/2 game of both MSOE and IIT.
2-1-23 Finals:
St. Norbert 74, Alverno 31
Edgewood 78, IIT 52 (Eagles' Guerrero another strong 19 pt game)
CUW 78, Marian 66
WLC 59, Lakeland 43 (Muskies had it down to 6 early in the 4th, but a WLC scoring run then got the
Warriors another key win at home)
Aurora 67, MSOE 61 (Rios' shooting late clinched this win for the Spartans)
CUC 52, Benedictine 50 (IL Eagles couldn't get a shot off in their last possession)
Dominican 66, Rockford 59 (Stars outshot Regents 58% to 20% in 4th Qrtr for come from behind win)
With those results, CUC moves into a tie for 5th with Lakeland, Dominican escapes the NACC cellar and the front runners keep pace with each other.
One more St. Norbert win coupled with one loss by CUC and one loss by Lakeland and the Green Knights clinch a NACC Tournament berth. (Lakeland and CUC are scheduled to play each other 2/15).
Remaining schedule for teams in the lower end of the hunt--
Benedictine: vs CUW; vs. IIT; at Lakeland, vs. Edgewood, vs. Aurora
Marian: at Edgewood, vs. Lakeland, vs. Aurora, at MSOE, vs. Alverno (will need help)
CUC: vs. MSOE, at Rockford, at St. Norbert, vs. Lakeland, at Dominican
CUW: at Benedictine, at Dominican, vs. Edgewood, vs. Alverno, at Lakeland
Edgewood: vs. Marian, vs. Aurora, at CUW, at Benedictine, vs. St. Norbert.
CUC 52, Benedictine 50, Cougars now 10-10, 8-5 NACC.
The Cougars were without Kate Benes and Mikalah Ellis tonight, while Melia Perry and Jaylene Wade combined for just 15 points on 6-23 shooting. And yet, the Cougars found a way to get it done. McKayley Hopkins led the way with 14 points, five boards and three steals in 39 minutes. Her speed and aggressive drives to the basket were just what the team needed. Alisyn McGregor (12 points, 13 boards) had some key fourth quarter buckets, and Sydney Lloyd sparked the team off the bench with eight points including a buzzer-beating halfcourt shot after entering the game with :03 left in the first quarter (part of a 9-0 run).
2-4-23 Finals:
Dominican 61, Alverno 52 (Inferno cold-shooting spell late in 4th enabled Stars to pull away for the win)
St. Norbert 85, IIT 31 (25-2 2nd Quarter run enabled Green Knights to break this one open)
Edgewood 81, Marian 64 (Big scoring game for Eagles' Norby, team got off to a fast start and held on)
Lakeland 73, Rockford 42 (Muskies hit 7 3s and had 39 bench points)
MSOE 68, CUC 49 (Raiders' Chokshi 24 points, MSOE got off to a fast start and held off the Cougars for a
road win)
CUW 63, Benedictine 61 (A layup by Falcon's Hafemann with 1 second left was the game winner here)
WLC 63, Aurora 60 (Warriors' Scott hit 2 FTs and a potential game-tying 3 point shot by the Spartans
missed)
With those results, St. Norbert clinches a NACC Tournament berth, WLC moves into 2nd place, Edgewood ties Aurora for 3rd, CUW improves to 10-4 and Lakeland moves ahead of CUC in the battle for the last NACC playoff spot.
2-8-23 Finals:
St. Norbert 66, MSOE 38
Benedictine 77, IIT 40
Lakeland 77, Marian 75 (A Mackenzie Miller lay-up with 2 seconds left gives the Muskies a road win)
CUW 76, Dominican 41
WLC 81, Alverno 41
CUC 73, Rockford 63 (Cougars' Ellis a double-double-27 pts, 14 rebounds, Perry 16 pts)
Aurora 68, Edgewood 58 (Spartans' clutch late FT shooting sealed this one)
WLC clinches a NACC Tournament berth, Edgewood falls into a tie with CUW, Lakeland and CUC will continue to battle for the last NACC post-season spot.
Early afternoon 2 11 23 NACC Final:
St. Norbert 75, CUC 46 (Green Knights broke it open in the 2nd half).
Green Knights clinch a share of the NACC regular season title. Aurora clinches a playoff spot. CUC must win out and hope Lakeland loses out to get into the NACC tourney.
More 2-11-23 Finals:
CUW 76, Edgewood 73 (Falcons' Hafemann hit FTs, and then Eagles' Bonser missed a potential game-tying 3)
Lakeland 69, Benedictine 49
Aurora 91, Marian 64 (Spartans hit 11 3-pointers in the game)
WLC 94, IIT 38
MSOE 56, Dominican 42 (Raiders outscored Stars 21-6 in 4th Qrtr to get the win)
Rockford/Alverno later.
CUW clinches a NACC Tourney berth.
2 11 23 Final:
Alverno 59, Rockford 53 (Inferno get off the in-conference schneid by coming from behind, taking the lead in the 3rd quarter and hanging on from there at home.) No in=conference O-fers in the NACC this regular season.
NACC Playoff Scenarios:
Easiest: One more win by Edgewood and one by Lakeland and all spots then would be filled.
Toughest: Edgewood and Lakeland both lose out and CUC win out (3 teams with 11-7 records, it would come down to tiebreakers for the last 2 spots.
2-15-23 Finals
CUW 65, Alverno 47 (Falcons outscored Alverno 19-8 in 3rd quarter to break this one open)
Lakeland 70, CUC 57 (CUC eliminated from NACC tournament with this loss).
Aurora 103, Rockford 70 (Spartans hit 14 3s on the night)
Benedictine 49, Edgewood 42 (IL Eagles got 19 pts off 21 Edgewood turnovers and hit 7 3s in the game)
St. Norbert 56, WLC 54 (An Olivia De Cleene lay-up at the buzzer was the difference here).
St. Norbert takes the regular season NACC title. Aurora and WLC are now in a 2nd place tie; CUW is in 3rd, Lakeland 4th, Edgewood 5th.
All NACC Tourney teams have been determined, it's just a matter of who ends up where.
2/18 schedule: St. Norbert/Edgewood, Aurora/Benedictine, WLC/MSOE, CUW/Lakeland:
WLC must finish ahead of CUW in order to assure the Warriors of a home playoff game.
(Falcons beat Warriors head to head earlier).
2-18 Finals:
St. Norbert 86, Edgewood 70 (Green Knights took control in the 3rd quarter to run the regular season table.)
WLC 61, MSOE 44 (22-11 WLC scoring run broke this one open)
CUW 71, Lakeland 63 (Late clutch FT shooting gives the Falcons a road win here).
Aurora 73, Benedictine 64 (Spartans used a 19-9 4th Quarter run to clinch this one).
Here are the NACC Tourney seedings:
1) St. Norbert
2) WLC
3) Aurora
4) CUW
5) Lakeland
6) Edgewood
Edgewood/Aurora, and Lakeland/CUW would be the opening round matchups next week.
2 21 23 results:
Edgewood 56, Aurora 54 (An Emma Klein shot gave the Eagles the lead with 9 seconds left, and Spartans'
Moore and Barrett missed on potential game-tying field goal attempts).
CUW 74, Lakeland 72 (Falcons' Lindsey Lonigro made a lay-up at the buzzer to provide the winning margin
here)
Semis: St. Norbert/Edgewood
WLC/CUW
2-23-23 NACC Finals:
St. Norbert 72, Edgewood 45 (Green Knights got 23 pts off 21 Eagle turnovers)
WLC 64, CUW 51 (Falcons cut deficit to 8 late, but Warriors hit clutch FTs to get to the NACC Final)
St. Norbert vs. WLC 2/25 for the NACC AQ.
2-25-23 NACC Final:
St. Norbert 48, WLC 42 (2nd half Green Knight comeback was the difference here).
How is Kate Benes not named all-conference? Averaged 24.3 PPG. Granted she only played 16 games...but still
I'll put in a good word for Marian's Paris Harris (7th in NACC in scoring-12.3 PPG); 24th in rebounding (5.0 per game); .709 FT Pct. (Perhaps the reason she missed out was more on her overall stats).
Transylvania picks up the national title today over CNU. WLC gave them fits in late December. Warriors played a very tough NC slate last year with five teams finishing with 20 or more wins and three that made the NCAA's.
Lakeland has a new head coach:
https://lakelandmuskies.com/news/2023/5/30/05-30-2023WBBLona.aspx
An entertaining season opener at Geiseman yesterday as CUC edged Illinois College 93-88 in double OT.
NACC fans, keep an eye on Khaliah Reid this year. She'll make her share of freshman mistakes, but her ability and hustle can more than make up for them. Reid hit the game tying three at the end of regulation and finished with 25 points.
Mikalah Ellis' final season started out with a bang. She lead all scorers with 31 points, much of it going to the basket but also adding a couple of threes for good measure. Also coming up clutch for the Cougars were Ali MacGregor with nine points and 17 boards (14 on offensive end) and Prentciss Gates hitting 9-10 FTs, many of them in the late going.
Jalyn Patterson led the Lady Blues (1-1) with 21 points and 11 boards, followed by Ashlyn Wightman (14, 11) and Kendra Bass (14 points). The visitors played very competitively but were hurt by losing three of their starters to fouls in the extra sessions. Tough loss, but they should go on to have a good season.
Cougars now hit the road for five straight including a California trip. Be interesting to see their record when they play next home game on Nov. 28.
This weekend's scores
11/17
St. Norbert 74 Northland 27
Pomona-Pitzer 61 Concordia Chicago 58
11/18
Aurora 66 Beloit 57
North Park 70 Dominican 40
Edgewood 83 North Central 55
UW-Superior 72 Alverno 23
MSOE 55 Elmhurst 47
St. Norbert 79 Olivet 65
Marian 68 Lake Forest 52
Redlands 89 Concordia Chicago 48
Standings
Aurora 4-0
Concordia Wisconsin 2-1
Lakeland 2-1
MSOE 2-1
Concordia Chicago 2-2
St. Norbert 2-2
Wisconsin Lutheran 1-1
Rockford 1-1
Edgewood 1-3
Marion 1-3
Alverno 0-2
Benedictine 0-3
Illinois Tech 0-3
Dominican 0-4
WLCALUM 83's take on the NACC Tournament:
#8 Rockford didn't lose by much earlier vs. WLC
2 other teams to watch--St. Norbert moved up toward the end while Edgewood slipped at regular season's end.
St. Norbert I am wary of but also Edgewood as well. They played WLC tough twice this season. Not too concerned with RU tomorrow. My main concern is that WLC is very streaky with their shooting and not being automatic at the line (which has been a major issue in the last few seasons).
WLC 48
Rockford 42
Warriors shot under 30% for the game but barely scrapes by the Regents thanks to going 18/24 from the line. Please Warriors, I don't want to have a heart attack the next two games.
St. Norbert 70
Benedictine 53
Edgewood 71
Concordia Wisconsin 54
Aurora 61
MSOE 59
Semifinals
WLC (21-4) hosts Aurora (19-6)
St. Norbert (17-9) hosts Edgewood (15-11)
Yeah, what a game that was. I was impressed by Rockford's defense, but the Regents just couldn't put the ball in the basket. 5-of-14 from the FT line won't win you many games, not to mention shooting below 30% from the field...interested to see if it was a sort of wake-up call for WLC as well. Need to be focused with their only path to the NCAA Tournament almost certainly being via Pool A and winning the NACC Tourney.
WLC has been known for their defense under Knueppel so that isn't surprising. As stated earlier, WLC the last few years has been very streaky with their shooting with being on point some nights and others...well you get what happened against Rockford. They haven't had a strong inside presence since Schulz to clean up any missed opportunities from the perimeter. Can't afford another off night against a tough Aurora team coming to town tonight.
The other semifinal will be one to watch. Edgewood was leading the league most of the year but stumbled when it counted against WLC and St. Norbert to end the regular season. Can the Eagles channel some of their mid season form up in De Pere or will it be a disappointing ending setting up round 3 of WLC-St. Norbert in the finals?
Semifinal Scores
Wisconsin Lutheran 63
Aurora 51
St. Norbert 59
Edgewood 46
NACC Finals
Wisconsin Lutheran (22-4) vs St. Norbert (18-9)
Thoughts on the NACC Final.
Honestly I see this as a toss up. WLC beat St. Norbert in the lone regular season matchup but since then the Green Knights haven't lost since (WLC hasn't either). WLC's performance in the conference tournament hasn't been the best despite winning and they can't afford a clunky offensive performance against a hot team in SNC. I think WLC wins late but I could see the Green Knights pulling it off here too.
Halftime
Wisconsin Lutheran 29
St. Norbert 18
Final from WLC
Wisconsin Lutheran 66
St. Norbert 42
Defense stood tall holding St. Norbert to 3-17 from 3-pt land. Warriors heading back to the NCAA Tournament.
Hearing that there is a possibility that WLC could be facing Transylvania again in the NCAA's at Transylvania. I can see the logic there but I could see them being shipped to UWW or Carroll being a bit more likely. A glut of Midwest teams that can/most likely host is gonna cause some headaches to figure out who goes where in this region.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 25, 2024, 11:19:29 PMHearing that there is a possibility that WLC could be facing Transylvania again in the NCAA's at Transylvania. I can see the logic there but I could see them being shipped to UWW or Carroll being a bit more likely. A glut of Midwest teams that can/most likely host is gonna cause some headaches to figure out who goes where in this region.
They won't be at Transy. They'll avoid the rematch. We forgot about it when we made the mock bracket.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 26, 2024, 01:40:24 AMQuote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 25, 2024, 11:19:29 PMHearing that there is a possibility that WLC could be facing Transylvania again in the NCAA's at Transylvania. I can see the logic there but I could see them being shipped to UWW or Carroll being a bit more likely. A glut of Midwest teams that can/most likely host is gonna cause some headaches to figure out who goes where in this region.
They won't be at Transy. They'll avoid the rematch. We forgot about it when we made the mock bracket.
Probably they will avoid it though but as stated it's not outright prohibited to have non-conference rematches. Though they did give the Pioneers one of their toughest tests back in December. (Though the temptation is getting too much to take time off Friday and get to a NCAA game up here depending on who is hosting).
WLC gets shipped to Iowa to face host Wartburg in the first round.
11/8 & 11/9 Scores
11/8
Eureka 80 Dominican 52
Rhodes 64 Illinois Tech 41
UW-Superior 73 Marian 44
UW-Stevens Point 101 Lakeland 64
St. Norbert 69 St. Scholastica 62
Aurora 70 Judson (IL) 68
11/9
East Texas Baptist 96 Illinois Tech 48
Trine 60 Wisconsin Lutheran 49
UW-Whitewater 78 Lakeland 35
Illinois College 75 Concordia Chicago 36
Dubuque 66 Marian 51
Alverno 88 Blackburn 53
St. Norbert 72 Calvin 63
Edgewood 68 North Central (MN) 56
Rockford 64 Beloit 48
NACC Standings
St. Norbert 2-0
Alverno 1-0
Aurora 1-0
Edgewood 1-0
Rockford 1-0
Benedictine 0-0
Concordia Wisconsin 0-0
MSOE 0-0
Benedictine 0-1
Wisconsin Lutheran 0-1
Dominican 0-1
Marian 0-2
Lakeland 0-2
Illinois Tech 0-2
Congrats to Coach Klay Knueppel as he earns his 400th career victory as WLC knocks off #17 Transylvania 73-65 tonight.
Totally forgot how much of a gauntlet WLC's first five games are.
Lost to #23 Trine and #8 UW-Oshkosh
Won against #17 Transylvania
Facing #18 Wash U in the McWilliams Classic Championship tomorrow.
And next month they have Loras (RV) and #2 Wartburg.
Now THAT'S loading up!
To say they went 3-6 against that schedule is something to be expected but they did get a nice win over Transylvania and nearly stunned #2 Wartburg. Still turnovers and mediocre from the FT line ain't gonna cut it against good to great teams especially come Tournament time.
Still a young lineup over at WLC with a Stevens (soph) and Cole (Frosh) leading the way in scoring.
NACC Standings as of 1/1
St. Norbert 7-2 (2-0)
Edgewood 6-5 (2-0)
Wisconsin Lutheran 5-6 (2-0)
Lakeland 5-6 (2-0)
Concordia Wisconsin 2-7 (2-1)
Aurora 7-3 (1-1)
MSOE 5-6 (1-1)
Benedictine 4-5 (1-1)
Marian 3-7 (1-1)
Illinois Tech 4-6 (0-1)
Dominican 3-7 (0-2)
Alverno 2-7 (0-2)
Rockford 1-7 (0-2)
Concordia Chicago 1-8 (0-2)
1/18 Scores
Illinois Tech 82
Alverno 61
Wisconsin Lutheran 66
Concordia Chicago 45
Benedictine 64
Marian 45
Edgewood 76
Lakeland 63
St. Norbert 56
Aurora 50
Concordia Wisconsin 70
Dominican 51
NACC Standings after 1/18
St. Norbert 11-3 (6-0)
MSOE 9-6 (5-1)
Wisconsin Lutheran 8-7 (5-1)
Concordia Wisconsin 5-9 (5-2)
Aurora 10-4 (4-2)
Benedictine 8-7 (4-2)
Edgewood 8-7 (4-2)
Lakeland 7-8 (4-2)
Illinois Tech 6-9 (2-4)
Rockford 3-10 (2-4)
Dominican 5-10 (1-5)
Marian 3-12 (1-5)
Alverno 2-13 (0-6)
Concordia Chicago 1-13 (0-7)
Seven teams within a game of each other so far. St. Norbert is still a step ahead of WLC but things could change here.
NACC Standings after 1/25
St. Norbert 13-3 (8-0)
Wisconsin Lutheran 10-7 (7-1)
Edgewood 10-7 (6-2)
Lakeland 9-8 (6-2)
Concordia Wisconsin 7-10 (6-2)
Aurora 11-5 (5-3)
Benedictine 9-8 (5-3)
MSOE 9-8 (5-3)
Illinois Tech 7-10 (3-5)
Marian 4-13 (2-6)
Rockford 3-12 (2-6)
Dominican 5-12 (1-7)
Alverno 2-15 (0-8)
1/29 Scores
Wisconsin Lutheran 76
Lakeland 49
Concordia Wisconsin 66
Illinois Tech 48
MSOE 87
Alverno 41
Edgewood 90
Rockford 48
Aurora 81
Benedictine 72
Concordia Chicago 57
Dominican 54
St. Norbert 85
Marian 47
NACC Standings after 1/29
St. Norbert 14-3 (9-0)
Wisconsin Lutheran 11-7 (8-1)
Edgewood 11-7 (7-2)
Concordia Wisconsin 8-10 (7-2)
Aurora 12-5 (6-3)
MSOE 10-8 (6-3)
Lakeland 9-9 (6-3)
Benedictine 9-9 (5-4)
Illinois Tech 7-11 (3-6)
Marian 4-14 (2-7)
Rockford 3-13 (2-7)
Dominican 5-13 (1-8)
Concordia Chicago 2-16 (1-8)
Alverno 2-16 (0-9)
Unexpected loss from Aurora last night, and St. Norbert appears to really be hitting their stride.
NACC Standings as of 2/8
St. Norbert 15-4 (10-1) x
Wisconsin Lutheran 13-7 (10-1) x
Aurora 14-5 (8-3)
Edgewood 12-8 (8-3)
Concordia Wisconsin 9-11 (8-3)
Benedictine 11-9 (7-4)
MSOE 11-9 (7-4)
Lakeland 9-11 (6-5)
Illinois Tech 8-12 (4-7)
Marian 5-15 (3-8)
Rockford 3-14 (2-8)
Concordia Chicago 3-16 (2-8)
Dominican 5-10 (1-10)
Alverno 2-18 (0-11) z
Now the plot thickens with WLC and St. Norbert tied atop the standings. SNC has the tiebreaker over WLC.
2/8 Matchups
Aurora at MSOE: Raiders are flying high with that big win over St. Norbert Wednesday. Can't lose focus with a talented Spartans team coming to town.
Edgewood at St. Norbert: Green Knights were stunned by MSOE Wednesday and can't take a breath here either. Edgewood ain't no slouch either and is looking to compound that misery today.
Benedictine at Wisconsin Lutheran: WLC now finds itself in a tie for first but needs another loss by SNC to avoid the tiebreaker. Eagles are never an easy out for the Warriors either.
Rockford at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW looks to break free from the three team logjam and put itself in a better position to secure a home game in the conference tournament. Rockford is looking to play spoiler the rest of the way.
Illinois Tech at Marian: Scarlet Hawks are not fully out of the picture for a conference tournament spot but they need some help and good play down the stretch. Marian presents a good opportunity for that but they can't afford a loss here.
Dominican at Lakeland: Lakeland holds a 2 game lead over Illinois Tech for the final NACC Tournament spot but come into this losing three straight including two in blowout fashion. Righting the ship here against a struggling Stars team is a must considering their next three games (SNC, IIT, Aurora).
Alverno at Concordia Chicago: This game is basically for pride at this point. Alverno is out of contention for a spot in the conference tournament and CUC needs a miracle to make it.
NACC Standings as of 2/19
St. Norbert 18-4 (13-1) x
Wisconsin Lutheran 16-7 (13-1) x
Concordia Wisconsin 12-11 (11-3) x
Aurora 15-7 (9-5) x
Benedictine 13-10 (9-5) x
Edgewood 13-10 (9-5) x
MSOE 13-10 (9-5) x
Lakeland 11-12 (8-6) x
Marian 7-16 (5-9) z
Illinois Tech 8-15 (4-10) z
Rockford 5-16 (4-10) z
Concordia Chicago 4-19 (3-11) z
Dominican 5-18 (1-13) z
Alverno 2-21 (0-14) z
Basically the Conference Tournament field is set and that remains is the seeding placements.
It's basically a two team race for the top seed with WLC and St. Norbert tied but the Green Knights hold the H2H tiebreaker. CUW could get the number 2 seed (SNC has the H2H over the Falcons so the 1 seed is out of play) if they win out and WLC loses both games but can also drop down the seeding order if they lose out.
Then we have the trainwreck from 3-8. Any of these teams have a shot at the third seed or slide all the way to the 8th.
H2H tiebreakers:
CUW: Aurora (1-0), BenU (1-0), MSOE (1-0), Lakeland (1-0)
Aurora: BenU (1-0), Edgewood (1-0)
Benedictine: Edgewood (1-0), MSOE (1-0)
Edgewood: CUW (1-0), Lakeland (1-0)
MSOE: Aurora (1-0), Lakeland (1-0)
Lakeland: None (has a split against BenU)
2/19 Scores
MSOE 71 Marian 31
Wisconsin Lutheran 55 Concordia Wisconsin 46
Edgewood 97 Dominican 57
Aurora 65 Lakeland 54
Illinois Tech 71 Concordia Chicago 57
St. Norbert 116 Alverno 56 :o
Benedictine 63 Rockford 59
NACC Standings after 2/19
St. Norbert 19-4 (14-1) x
Wisconsin Lutheran 17-7 (14-1) x
Concordia Wisconsin 12-12 (11-4) x
Aurora 16-7 (10-5) x
Benedictine 14-10 (10-5) x
Edgewood 14-10 (10-5) x
MSOE 14-10 (10-5) x
Lakeland 11-13 (8-7) x (8)
Illinois Tech 9-15 (5-10) z
Marian 7-17 (5-10) z
Rockford 5-17 (4-11) z
Concordia Chicago 4-20 (3-12) z
Dominican 5-19 (1-14) z
Alverno 2-22 (0-15) z
Lakeland is the 8th seed with their loss last night.
2/22 Matchups
Dominican at Wisconsin Lutheran
Edgewood at Concordia Wisconsin
Illinois Tech at Alverno
Lakeland at Marian
Aurora at Benedictine
Concordia Chicago at Rockford
MSOE at St. Norbert
Scenarios
St. Norbert is the 1 seed with a win or a WLC loss.
WLC is the 1 seed with a win AND a SNC loss.
CUW with a win will be the 3 seed but could fall all the way to the 6 seed with a loss and if Edgewood, Aurora and MSOE win.
NACC Opening Round Matchups:
#1 St. Norbert/#8 Lakeland
#2 WLC/#7 Edgewood
#3 CUW/#6 MSOE
#4 Aurora/#5 Benedictine-IL
NACC Opening Round Finals:
#1 St. Norbert 58, #8 Lakeland 52 (An 11-3 late scoring run allowed the Green Knights to get the win here).
#5 Benedictine 82, #4 Aurora 72 OT (Eagles outscored Auora 21-11 in the extra session)
#6 MSOE 78, #3 CUW 73 (Raider clutch FT shooting late sealed this upset win here).
#2 WLC 65, #7 Edgewood 59 (Huge 4th quarter scoring advantage, a late 8-0 scoring run, and 2 key FTs enable the Warriors to avoid getting knocked off.)
#1 St. Norbert 54 #5 Benedictine 40: 15-4 third quarter was the deciding factor here.
#2 Wisconsin Lutheran 54 #6 MSOE 45: 9-0 late in the game broke a 45-45 tie to propel the Warriors into the title game.
NACC Finals
#2 Wisconsin Lutheran (20-7) at #1 St. Norbert (22-4) Saturday 3/1
NACC Tourney Championship Final:
WLC 57, St. Norbert 54 (Warriors' great FT shooting in the final minute enabled them to get the win here.)
WLC is heading to Minnesota to face host Gustavus Adolphus.
Winner will face Wartburg or UW-Stevens Point.
NACC announced All-Conference teams yesterday:
NACC POY: Taylor Thiry (St. Norbert)
Defensive POY: Vivian Guerrero (Edgewood)
Freshman of the Year: Krystyna Manzanarez (Aurora)
Coaching Staff of the Year: St. Norbert (Amanda Leonhard-Perry)
1st Team
Krystyna Mazanarez Fr. (Aurora)
Aubrey DeBauch Sr. (Concordia Wisconsin)
Vivian Guerrero Sr. (Edgewood)
Mahima Chokshi Jr. (MSOE)
Lana Kerley Fr. (MSOE)
D'Asia Washington Sr. (Rockford)
Taylor Thiry Sr. (St. Norbert)
Emma Morrisey St. (St. Norbert)
Jayden Hill Jr. (WLC)
Margie Stevens So. (WLC)
2nd Team
Shiauna Nixon-Boyd Jr. (Alverno)
Riley Doggett So. (Aurora)
Allison Jarvis Fr. (Benedictine)
Khaliah Reid So. (Concordia Chicago)
Kallie Norby Grad. (Edgewood)
Julia Bucci Sr. (Illinois Tech)
Halle Boldt Sr. (Lakeland)
Lexi Brakebush Sr. (Marian)
Dani Mendez So. (MSOE)
Casey Jepson Sr. (St. Norbert)
Janiyah Goner Sr. (WLC)
Honorable Mention
Kylie Fischabch Sr. (Aurora)
Hailey Bachmann Fr. (Benedictine)
Makenzie Carroll Jr. (Benedictine)
Alexis Schueler Fr. (Benedictine)
Melissa Gomez Grad. (Dominican)
Chole Churilla Jr. (Illinois Tech)
A.T. Bartlett Jr. (Lakeland)
WLC trails Gustavus Adolphus 20-17 at half.
Wisconsin Lutheran tied with Gustavus at 33 after 3 quarters of play. Definitely a rock fight up in St. Peter tonight.
WLC loses in OT 62-49. GAC gets a game tying three with 17 seconds left and WLC went cold in the extra frame. Tough way to end the year but good to see them make the tournament despite a lot thinner margin for error.