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I know that Ralph Turner is famous for this thread, and while there is a section for Pool B bids for the men this year, there are none for the women, so I thought that this forum needed a re-start. <BR> <BR>As you know, the 2004-05 tournament for the women comprises of a field of 50 teams-- with 39 bids going to automatic qualifiers (i.e. teams belonging in conferences that carry automatic bids that win their leagues), 4 bids going to either independents, or teams that are in conferences not yet having automatic bids, and 7 bids going to teams in conferences carrying automatic bids that do not win their conferences.

There are only 4 Pool B picks this year because the Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference, and the North Atlantic Conference now carry automatic bids for their champions.

With that in mind, here are my 4 leaders for the Pool B picks for the women--

1.)  Washington and Jefferson-- 11-1 regional record (.917)-- member of the Presidents Conference-- Great Lakes region (Presidents does not have auto bid.)
2.)  Chapman   9-3 regional record (.750)-- independent from the West region.
3.)  Westminister (PA)  12-4 regional record (.750)-- Presidents Conference-- Great Lakes region.
4.)  Chowan  8-3 regional record (.727)-- independent-- South region.

Other teams to watch--
Piedmont (GA)-- .727 regional pct.-- Great South Athletic Conference-- South region.
Maryville (TN)-- .692 regional pct.-- Great South Athletic Conference-- South region.

Those look to be the most likely teams eligible for Pool B this year. Thoughts?

Allen, thanks for opening the board.  I think you have highlighted the leaders.

NJCU (8-5) has several In-Region games remaining, but I think that going at least 5-1 is a real stretch.

I assume that Thomas More has not been re-assigned to the weaker South Region, and in turn would pick in-Region games against the GSAC.

Chowan has 7 games vs. its old USAC rivals and went 4-3 against them the first time.  Another 4-3 performance makes them 12-6.  Is that good enough?

Piedmont and Maryville have a chance to add 2 or 3 GSAC tournament wins. (I do not clearly interpret the Tourney format on the GSAC web site....Any byes?)

Does anyone know when the Women's side of the GSAC gets its AQ?  They have 7 full members this year.

Now that the NCAA has allowed Independent schools to have their own "conference" tournament at the end of the season, it should be interesting to see some Independent matchups across regions...even if it isn't the best teams in the nation competing.

Finlandia (Great Lakes), Meredith (South), and New Jersey City (Atlantic?) will be traveling to Russell Sage on Feb. 25-26 this year for the D3 Independent Tourney.

I know none of these teams are expecting Pool B bids, but any thoughts?

Kayla, thanks for notifying us about the Independents Tourney.  I was expecting the West Region men to put one together.  I did not understand that the independents could come from different evaluation regions.

NJCU would have to run the table to be considered for a Pool B bid but this is the best season they have had in over ten years.  They are playing great defense and keeping themselves in games that way.  The defense is being taught to them by Jonathon Green a former NJCU mens player and now assistant coach for the women.  He has brought a winning attitude and toughness to the womens team and they have responded.  He has them playing the same defense that the mens team plays now.  I would love to see them make the tournament but the strongest possibility is an ECAC bid right now which would be great.

New regional rankings:
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables.php

Ralph:   Maryville and Piedmont have essentially identical records and have split their games.  If both beat whomever they play between now and the GSAC tournament, and they play each other in the championship (all of which is likely), then would you think the winner is in line for a Pool B and the loser is not?

Then again, why is the GSAC for women not an AQ conference?

This is the first year that the Great South Athletic Conference got 7 full members of NCAA DIII playing in that conference.  The GSAC now has to go through a waiting period before getting the automatic bid.  GSAC should get an automatic bid either next season or the season after that if they keep all 7 of these members in the conference.

Thanks Allen.  What will determine if it is next season or the one after?

Scottiedoug, there was legislation recommended from the Championships committee to waive the 2-year rule for "Conference Realignment".  Not having the specific language to the legislation, I will not speculate as to the nature of the bill.

Also, does Wesleyan GA's women's team "not playing 3 games" impact the Pool A provisional status?  I don't know.

In any case, there goes Pool B bid (the 7 schools from the GSAC) to Pool A.

Also I think that the NEAC will move 9 full members from Pool B to Pool A in 2007.

There may be some movement back into Pool B if Hood moves its women's team from the AWCC and the conference falls to 6 members.  My thoughts are why don't Randolph-Macon Women's and Hollins from the ODAC affiliate with the AWCC and be more competitive in those sports where there is a chance to keep the AQ for the AWCC?  

(Message edited by rturner on February 20, 2005)

Aaron, Scottiedoug,

any guesses on Pool B as of this time?  These are my four picks.

1) Chapman 11-3 in-region and 17-5 overall, West Region independent.

2) Chowan 13-4 in-region and 18-6 overall, south Region Independent.

3) Wash & Jeff, 15-3 in-region and 20-5 overall, Pres AC.

4T) Piedmont and Maryville, with a tourney to settle the bid.

Also in contention, NJCU, going back to NJAC next year.

Baptist Bible, joining the NEAC which gets the bid in 2007.

Ralph--

I'll look at the Pool B picture on Monday and see if I agree with your picks.

Ralph--

I have looked at the Pool B picture and I agree with you for the most part.

1.)  Washington & Jefferson looks to be in as a Pool B regardless of the outcome of the Presidents Conf. Tournament.

2.)  Chapman is in as a Pool B pick at an 11-3 final in-region record out of the West.  (.786)

3.)  Chowan is now at 13-5 regionally in the South region (.722), so if both Piedmont and Maryville (TN) finish above .722 in in-region percentage at the end of the Great South tournament, I see both Piedmont and Maryville (
TN) getting in as Pool B's and Chowan out.

So in the South, it looks like 2 Pool B's going to the South with 3 teams vying for these picks.

Wash & Jeff from the Great Lakes region gets a Pool B, and Chapman from the West region gets a Pool B.

I'm crossposting some of this to the Pool B page in hopes of spurring some discussion here:

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 27, 2005, 05:15:06 PM
So far Rockford and Eureka both have good tournament résumés. Remember that even if someone upsets one of them in the NIIC tournament, that wouldn't guarantee them the front-runner spot for a Pool B bid. The winner of the conference tournament is not guaranteed anything, basically, aside from what they earn in the season as a whole.

At 3-7 in region, Aurora pretty much has to run the table to end up 17-7 in region and be in good shape for a Pool B bid. Current QOW: 7.600.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 27, 2005, 04:21:17 PM
Keith, I will give my opinion here, but feel free to email me for other questions as you wish.

The Primary Selection criteria are listed, so there is some "wiggle" room for the committee when they select.

I see the NIIC has 3 major contenders for 4 slots...W&J/Pres AC, Chapman and the GSAC champ/Maryville TN. I also don't know whether the NEAC teams will mount a challenge, e.g. Villa Julie College. I also think that the NIIC will get one bid, so probably the "Champion" will get it.

Quote from: keith45 on December 27, 2005, 12:54:13 PM
Ralph,
Thanks for the info! I am lost with the whole Pool B and C bids...we got killed non-conference, but as a first year staff, we hope to make a run in conference. However, I remember in my playing days (98 or so), Simpson (IA) went like 23-3, won the conference, but didn't get a bid..and since our record wont be nearly that pretty, and we dont have an AQ this year, we may be out of luck even IF we get hot in conference...could you foresee no NIIC teams getting in (on the ladies side)? or better yet, would QOWI impact a decision if, lets say, Rockford didn't win the conference, but had 3-4 losses, and another NIIC team wins conference with a .500 record or better...I'm looking at non-conference in region games, so could you have a team with a better QOWI but worse record?

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 27, 2005, 11:28:15 AM
Keith, good morning!

Please refer to the NCAA Handbook for the details on the QOWI  (SOS)

http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/basketball/2006/2006_d3_w_basketball_handbook.pdf

and under the FAQ...

http://www.d3hoops.com/faq.php?category=NCAA%20Tournament

Aurora is in Pool B, so you can find the combined wisdom  ??? of multiple pundits as the season progresses.

For the lurkers, Aurora and the NIIC are competing with the GSAC, the Pres AC, and Chapman, among others for the Pool B bids.  After the Pool B bids are allocated, then the remaining teams are moved to Pool C.

Also Thomas More should be considered a Pool B contender. The Presidents' could get two bids this year. Who needs the automatic bid, anyway?

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 27, 2005, 05:19:10 PM
I'm crossposting some of this to the Pool B page in hopes of spurring some discussion here:

...Also Thomas More should be considered a Pool B contender. The Presidents' could get two bids this year. Who needs the automatic bid, anyway?

:) ;) :D ;D Who needs the automatic bid?  The Pres AC men, that's who! :D :D :D :D  (boink!)

True. :) But this crew was so hot on the trail of an AQ that its football teams left 10 teams in the lurch four months before the season started. And what happened? The PAC got two Pool B bids.

University of Dallas has strung together a nice 5 game winning streak, including 3 straight over South Region opponents.

If today's Hendrix victory is significant for the UD Lady Crusaders getting with first year Head Coach Gen Schmitt's** program, then winning the last 6 South Region games or least defeating everyone except Trinity would give them no less than an 8-4 in-region record.  For Pool B, that might not be out of the realm of salvageable for one of the 4 Pool B bids.  A win over Trinity moves them to 9-3 in this scenario and could mean a victory over the SCAC AQ.  A 9-3 record is probably what it will take.  There are good Pool B squads in the Pres AC, the NIIC, the GSAC, plus Chapman.

They are standing precariously on the bubble, but the team seems to be getting better each game.

http://www.d3hoops.com/school_info.php?school=University%20of%20Dallas&team=w

**Coach Schmitt is a 2004 Trinity alum and member of the 2003 NCAA Championship team)

I gotta agree with you there Ralph, huge win for UD and I think they can beat a lot of the teams left on their schedule and with the lack of quality independents out there, they've got an outside shot at the tourney.  I thought Hendrix might have enough talent to make some noise in the SCAC this year, so either I'm way off on that thought or UD is playing some great basketball.  And don't forget Coach Gen Schmitt was also on the Marymount (VA) team that went to the Final Four the year Stevens Point won it all, she knows a thing or two about winning at this level. 

Southwestern 83, UDallas 63!

Boink!  That means that UDallas must run the table.

UDallas came back to reality.  Southwestern is only 2-4 against the ASC-West, but has soundly defeated UDallas twice.

Congratulations to Lincoln University's Mary Rotimi who is ranked ninth in DIII rebounds with a total of 133 with an average of 12.1 rpg.  The Lady Lions as a team are struggling, hopefully, the second half of the season will be better.

Assessment of Pool B candidates thru 15Jan06.  There are 4 Pool B bids allocated.  After those bids are filled, the remaining Pool B candidates are reconsidered for the remaininig 21 bids with the Pool C candidates.

Conference / Team         / Conf / Region / Overall

NIIC              Rockford       1-0        11-2      13-3

Pres AC          T More         3-0         7-2        11-4
Pres AC           W&J            2-1         8-2         12-3

GSAC             Agnes Scott  7-0          6-1         8-5

NEAC              VJC              4-0          6-2        10-2
NEAC             Bapt BC        4-1          6-2          7-3

Indep            Chapman      ----           7-3         10-5

QOW through Thursday night's games:

1-10
Scranton     12.800
DePauw    12.444
Pacific Lutheran    12.375
McMurry    11.929
Southern Maine    11.857
Baldwin-Wallace    11.750
Hope    11.714
Wesleyan    11.636
Bowdoin    11.636
Messiah    11.455

11-20
Brandeis    11.333
Oglethorpe    11.250
St. John Fisher    11.182
Rochester    11.154
New York University    11.143
Salem State    11.091
Williams    11.000
Washington U.    10.875
Hardin-Simmons    10.846
Middlebury    10.833

21-30
Randolph-Macon    10.833
Mary Washington    10.818
Bates    10.769
Chicago    10.727
George Fox    10.714
Mississippi College    10.692
Moravian    10.643
Muhlenberg    10.643
Mount St. Mary    10.615
Eastern Connecticut    10.615
               
31-40
Carroll    10.600
Capital    10.538
Lawrence    10.500
Richard Stockton    10.462
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.462
Clark    10.462
Trinity (Texas)    10.429
Maryville (Mo.)    10.400
Cortland State    10.364
UW-Oshkosh    10.286
               
41-50
Mount Holyoke    10.250
UW-La Crosse    10.250
Medaille    10.250
Catholic    10.231
Otterbein    10.214
Concordia-Moorhead    10.167
Virginia Wesleyan    10.167
Springfield    10.143
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.111
Puget Sound    10.091
               
51-60
Howard Payne    10.077
Gustavus Adolphus    10.077
RPI    10.000
Calvin    10.000
Illinois Wesleyan    10.000
Union    10.000
Oneonta State    9.917
Simpson    9.875
Franklin    9.846
St. Norbert    9.818
               
61-70
McDaniel    9.800
Millikin    9.750
St. Benedict    9.727
Maine Maritime    9.727
Washington and Jefferson    9.727
Johns Hopkins    9.727
Luther    9.700
St. Lawrence    9.700
William Smith    9.667
DeSales    9.643
               
71-80
Norwich    9.636
Wilmington    9.625
Bridgewater (Va.)    9.600
Emory    9.600
Fredonia State    9.583
Bridgewater State    9.583
Ripon    9.545
Colby-Sawyer    9.538
Salisbury    9.500
Albright    9.500

81-90
Chapman    9.500
University of New England    9.462
William Paterson    9.429
Maine-Farmington    9.364
Oswego State    9.364
Western New England    9.364
Buena Vista    9.333
New Jersey    9.308
UW-Stevens Point    9.286
Hanover    9.273

91-100
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.250
Wittenberg    9.250
Widener    9.200
Kean    9.200
Wesley    9.200
Kenyon    9.182
Nichols    9.167
Montclair State    9.154
Rockford    9.143
Emmanuel    9.100

QOW index through games of Thursday, Jan. 26:
1-10
DePauw     12.727
Scranton    12.583
Southern Maine    11.938
Hope    11.867
Baldwin-Wallace    11.857
Williams    11.813
New York University    11.750
Pacific Lutheran    11.700
Bowdoin    11.667
Rochester    11.533
               
11-20
Wesleyan    11.500
Mary Washington    11.385
Messiah    11.308
Brandeis    11.286
McMurry    11.250
Bates    11.200
Oglethorpe    10.786
Trinity (Texas)    10.778
Randolph-Macon    10.733
Lawrence    10.727
               
21-30
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.727
Concordia-Moorhead    10.714
Washington U.    10.700
Eastern Connecticut    10.688
Carroll    10.667
St. John Fisher    10.643
Mississippi College    10.625
Cortland State    10.615
Mount St. Mary    10.600
Middlebury    10.467
               
31-40
Hardin-Simmons    10.400
Puget Sound    10.385
Moravian    10.375
Mount Holyoke    10.357
Richard Stockton    10.333
UW-Oshkosh    10.313
Virginia Wesleyan    10.308
Medaille    10.286
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.267
Muhlenberg    10.235
               
41-50
Illinois Wesleyan    10.214
Salem State    10.214
Catholic    10.188
William Smith    10.167
Capital    10.143
Union    10.133
UW-La Crosse    10.071
Oneonta State    10.071
McDaniel    10.000
Calvin    10.000
               
51-60
Johns Hopkins    10.000
Norwich    10.000
Chicago    10.000
Emory    10.000
Greensboro    10.000
George Fox    10.000
Albright    9.929
Emmanuel    9.923
Simpson    9.900
Maryville (Mo.)    9.857
               
61-70
Washington and Jefferson    9.846
UW-Stevens Point    9.813
Colby-Sawyer    9.800
Howard Payne    9.800
Gustavus Adolphus    9.800
Wittenberg    9.786
Springfield    9.750
Chapman    9.727
Bridgewater State    9.714
Maine-Farmington    9.714
               
71-80
Bridgewater (Va.)    9.706
Baruch    9.643
Otterbein    9.625
St. Norbert    9.615
Franklin    9.600
UW-Stout    9.538
Fredonia State    9.533
RPI    9.500
Lake Forest    9.500
Hood    9.500
               
81-90
St. Lawrence    9.462
St. Benedict    9.462
Maine Maritime    9.429
Luther    9.417
New Jersey    9.333
Endicott    9.333
Rockford    9.313
Wesley    9.308
DeSales    9.294
Kean    9.294
               
91-100
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.286
Oswego State    9.286
Wilmington    9.278
Clark    9.250
Ripon    9.231
Olivet    9.222
Montclair State    9.200
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.200
Elmira    9.200
Millikin    9.143

Thru Jan 28th--

Conference / Team         / Conf / Region / Overall     IN-Region reg. season games left

NIIC              Rockford       5-0        15-2         17-3          5

Pres AC          T More         6-1          10-4        14-6         5 
Pres AC           W&J            6-1*        12-2        16-3         5  *Loss to TMore

GSAC             Maryville TN  8-0         11-4       13-5           5

NEAC              VJC              7-2         8-4        10-2           5
NEAC             Bapt BC        7-2          8-3        11-4           4

Indep            Chapman      ----           8-3        12-5          3


Corrections appreciated.

My apologies for not getting to this yesterday, but here are the updated QOWIs through games of Thursday, Feb. 2. Although I did not post these until today, they do account for all regional games through Thursday and none of Friday's results.

1-10
DePauw     12.923
Southern Maine    12.059
Scranton    11.929
Williams    11.765
Rochester    11.706
Mary Washington    11.667
Baldwin-Wallace    11.625
Brandeis    11.625
Bowdoin    11.600
Hope    11.353
               
11-20
New York University    11.222
St. John Fisher    11.188
Cortland State    11.133
Bates    11.056
Randolph-Macon    11.000
Wesleyan    11.000
Oglethorpe    11.000
Messiah    11.000
McMurry    10.833
Washington U.    10.750
               
21-30
Simpson    10.750
Mount St. Mary    10.722
Pacific Lutheran    10.692
Capital    10.625
Puget Sound    10.625
Richard Stockton    10.611
Eastern Connecticut    10.579
William Smith    10.571
Mississippi College    10.500
Carroll    10.400
               
31-40
Hardin-Simmons    10.389
Illinois Wesleyan    10.375
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.368
Concordia-Moorhead    10.353
Muhlenberg    10.350
Medaille    10.294
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.231
Lawrence    10.214
Mount Holyoke    10.188
Springfield    10.167
               
41-50
Colby-Sawyer    10.167
Union    10.167
Moravian    10.158
UW-Oshkosh    10.111
Greensboro    10.083
Salem State    10.063
Otterbein    10.056
Wittenberg    10.000
Maryville (Mo.)    10.000
St. Benedict    10.000
               
51-60
Catholic    10.000
Middlebury    10.000
UW-La Crosse    9.938
St. Lawrence    9.933
Calvin    9.909
Trinity (Texas)    9.909
Gwynedd-Mercy    9.889
Maine-Farmington    9.882
Norwich    9.875
Johns Hopkins    9.867
               
61-70
Emory    9.857
UW-Stevens Point    9.824
Howard Payne    9.765
Chapman    9.727
Endicott    9.706
Oneonta State    9.706
Baruch    9.688
Emmanuel    9.688
Denison    9.667
Washington and Jefferson    9.643
               
71-80
Bridgewater State    9.625
Luther    9.615
Gustavus Adolphus    9.611
Chicago    9.600
Virginia Wesleyan    9.600
RPI    9.571
McDaniel    9.526
Wilmington    9.500
Rockford    9.471
New Jersey    9.471
               
81-90
Franklin    9.471
George Fox    9.455
Hood    9.385
Ripon    9.375
Maine Maritime    9.375
St. Norbert    9.375
Dickinson    9.316
Oswego State    9.313
Montclair State    9.278
Cal Lutheran    9.250
               
91-100
La Verne    9.200
Elmira    9.167
North Park    9.133
Lakeland    9.125
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.118
DeSales    9.105
Millikin    9.063
Keene State    9.059
Ithaca    9.000
Albright    9.000

As of right now, who do you think would get in as Pool B? 

Also, as I was checking schools you've listed, Rockford has four losses now.  All of them are from in region opponents but why does it only say 3 of them are???  Just curious to see how it works.

Quote from: d3d3 on February 05, 2006, 02:16:25 PM

Also, as I was checking schools you've listed, Rockford has four losses now.  All of them are from in region opponents but why does it only say 3 of them are???  Just curious to see how it works.

Good pick-up, d3d3!!!.  +1 karma point! :)

The UW-Whitewater game is not noted as an in-region game on the schedule.

I will notify Pat so he can correct it! :)

Quote from: d3d3 on February 05, 2006, 02:16:25 PM
As of right now, who do you think would get in as Pool B?  ...

Rockford, TMore W&J and Maryville runs the table to edge Chapman.

1-10
Scranton     12.467
DePauw    12.400
Southern Maine    12.111
Baldwin-Wallace    11.706
Mary Washington    11.563
Bowdoin    11.529
Williams    11.526
Hope    11.471
Rochester    11.316
Messiah    11.125
               
11-20
Washington U.    11.071
St. John Fisher    11.056
Bates    11.000
New York University    11.000
Richard Stockton    11.000
Brandeis    11.000
Cortland State    10.882
Puget Sound    10.882
Pacific Lutheran    10.857
Randolph-Macon    10.833
               
21-30
Mount St. Mary    10.684
Wesleyan    10.684
Carroll    10.588
McMurry    10.579
Oglethorpe    10.556
St. Benedict    10.500
Capital    10.471
Muhlenberg    10.450
Concordia-Moorhead    10.421
Simpson    10.417
               
31-40
Maryville (Mo.)    10.400
Moravian    10.400
William Smith    10.375
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.357
Wittenberg    10.333
Lawrence    10.313
Emory    10.250
Salem State    10.235
Colby-Sawyer    10.158
Hardin-Simmons    10.158
               
41-50
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.150
Eastern Connecticut    10.150
Illinois Wesleyan    10.118
Norwich    10.118
Maine-Farmington    10.000
Springfield    10.000
Mississippi College    10.000
Calvin    10.000
Gustavus Adolphus    10.000
Bridgewater (Va.)    9.952
               
51-60
UW-Stevens Point    9.944
Maine Maritime    9.889
Otterbein    9.842
UW-Oshkosh    9.842
Medaille    9.833
UW-La Crosse    9.765
Mount Holyoke    9.765
Johns Hopkins    9.750
Catholic    9.737
Bridgewater State    9.706
               
61-70
St. Lawrence    9.706
Chapman    9.667
Baruch    9.667
Union    9.650
McDaniel    9.650
Emmanuel    9.647
Denison    9.647
Franklin    9.611
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.611
St. Norbert    9.556
               
71-80
Ripon    9.556
Howard Payne    9.556
Endicott    9.556
Dickinson    9.550
Chicago    9.529
Oneonta State    9.526
New Jersey    9.500
Greensboro    9.462
Luther    9.429
Montclair State    9.421
               
81-90
Carleton    9.389
Hood    9.385
Middlebury    9.368
Oswego State    9.353
DeSales    9.350
UW-Stout    9.313
Cal Lutheran    9.308
Wilmington    9.286
Lakeland    9.235
Trinity (Texas)    9.231
               
91-100
Nichols    9.222
Virginia Wesleyan    9.188
Western New England    9.176
Elmira    9.143
Christopher Newport    9.125
Marymount    9.125
Salve Regina    9.100
George Fox    9.077
Washington and Jefferson    9.067
Albright    9.059

Updated QOWI through games of Thursday, Feb. 9. Now includes regional record.

1-10
DePauw     12.400     15-0
Southern Maine    12.211    18-1
Scranton    12.188    16-0
Baldwin-Wallace    11.778    18-0
Bowdoin    11.765    15-2
Hope    11.556    17-1
Williams    11.526    16-3
Messiah    11.353    16-1
Rochester    11.316    15-4
Mary Washington    11.235    17-0

11-20
Brandeis    11.111    15-3
Bates    11.105    14-5
Randolph-Macon    10.944    17-1
Washington U.    10.929    12-2
New York University    10.900    17-3
Cortland State    10.882    16-1
St. John Fisher    10.842    17-2
Wesleyan    10.789    15-4
Richard Stockton    10.700    17-3
Oglethorpe    10.667    16-2

21-30
Puget Sound    10.647    15-2
Mount St. Mary    10.600    18-2
Muhlenberg    10.591    20-2
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.571    18-3
Pacific Lutheran    10.571    12-2
Capital    10.556    15-3
Carroll    10.471    14-3
Moravian    10.381    17-4
William Smith    10.375    13-3
McMurry    10.350    18-2

31-40
Colby-Sawyer    10.300    16-4
Johns Hopkins    10.278    16-2
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.267    13-2
Emory    10.250    10-6
Salem State    10.222    15-3
Springfield    10.200    15-5
Eastern Connecticut    10.190    16-5
St. Benedict    10.158    16-3
Simpson    10.154    13-0
Wittenberg    10.105    14-5
               
41-50
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.091    18-4
Illinois Wesleyan    10.056    13-5
Hardin-Simmons    10.050    18-2
Calvin    10.000    11-1
Maryville (Mo.)    10.000    11-0
Medaille    9.947    18-1
Lawrence    9.941    15-2
Mississippi College    9.900    17-3
Maine-Farmington    9.900    17-3
UW-Stevens Point    9.895    13-6
               
51-60
Norwich    9.889    15-3
Mount Holyoke    9.889    14-4
Gustavus Adolphus    9.857    16-5
UW-Oshkosh    9.842    13-6
Otterbein    9.800    15-5
Franklin    9.789    16-3
UW-La Crosse    9.778    12-6
Emmanuel    9.778    14-4
McDaniel    9.762    16-5
Concordia-Moorhead    9.750    15-5
               
61-70
Endicott    9.737    12-7
Maine Maritime    9.737    16-3
Howard Payne    9.737    16-3
St. Lawrence    9.667    15-3
Chapman    9.615    10-3
Bridgewater State    9.611    15-3
Baruch    9.579    15-4
St. Norbert    9.579    13-6
Dickinson    9.571    16-5
Greensboro    9.571    11-3
               
71-80
Union    9.550    13-7
Chicago    9.529    12-5
Denison    9.529    14-3
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.500    14-4
Oswego State    9.500    14-4
Catholic    9.500    13-7
Lakeland    9.500    13-5
New Jersey    9.474    13-6
Wilmington    9.455    15-7
Ripon    9.421    12-7

81-90
UW-Stout    9.412    12-5
Montclair State    9.400    14-6
Western New England    9.368    14-5
DeSales    9.333    13-8
Keene State    9.316    13-6
Carleton    9.316    13-6
Oneonta State    9.316    14-5
Middlebury    9.300    13-7
Virginia Wesleyan    9.235    12-5
Trinity (Texas)    9.231    10-3
               
91-100
Cal Lutheran    9.214    11-3
Texas-Tyler    9.158    14-5
Nichols    9.150    15-5
Luther    9.133    12-3
RPI    9.125    10-6
Wesley    9.105    14-5
William Paterson    9.100    11-9
Marymount    9.059    11-6
UW-Whitewater    9.059    9-8
UW-Eau Claire    9.053    10-9

Oops!  Benedictine 77, Rockford 67.

http://www.d3hoops.com/releases.php?release=47163

Oops??  What does that mean?

d3d3, I had answered your previous quesiton that Rockford was my top pick among the Pool B's. :-\

So with this loss, does it knock them out of a Pool B spot as of now?  I know they haven't played a difficult schedule and they aren't in a tough conference but does this hurt their chances?  If not, do they need to win out though to stay, in your opinion. 

Also, what is there SOS?

d3, Pat has posted the QOWI's of the Top 100 schools on both the Pool B and Pool C board.

I have not looked at Benedictine's QOWI.
I have not ruled out Rockford as a Pool B.

Let's see what the Regional Rankings are this week.

Regional rankings: http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/?p=128

Unlike the Men's Rankings, I do not see a single Pool B Women's team ranked today.

Updated Quality of Wins Index through games of Feb. 16:

1-10
DePauw     12.471     17-0
Bowdoin    12.150    18-2
Southern Maine    11.818    21-1
Scranton    11.667    18-0
Baldwin-Wallace    11.450    20-0
Mary Washington    11.450    20-0
Messiah    11.368    18-1
Hope    11.350    19-1
Williams    11.286    17-4
Randolph-Macon    11.263    18-1
               
11-20
Pacific Lutheran    11.250    14-2
Brandeis    11.200    17-3
Rochester    11.190    16-5
St. John Fisher    11.143    19-2
Bates    11.095    16-5
Washington U.    11.063    14-2
Puget Sound    10.895    16-3
Carroll    10.789    15-4
Wesleyan    10.762    17-4
Muhlenberg    10.750    22-2
               
21-30
Richard Stockton    10.682    19-3
New York University    10.636    18-4
William Smith    10.526    16-3
Medaille    10.524    20-1
Colby-Sawyer    10.500    18-4
Cortland State    10.476    19-2
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.417    21-3
Oglethorpe    10.400    17-3
St. Benedict    10.381    18-3
McMurry    10.364    20-2
               
31-40
Capital    10.350    17-3
Springfield    10.318    17-5
Mount St. Mary    10.318    19-3
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.294    14-3
Salem State    10.286    18-3
Maryville (Mo.)    10.231    13-0
Lawrence    10.222    15-3
Johns Hopkins    10.150    17-3
Howard Payne    10.136    19-3
Moravian    10.130    18-5
               
41-50
Emmanuel    10.095    17-4
Wittenberg    10.095    15-6
UW-Oshkosh    10.095    15-6
Concordia-Moorhead    10.091    17-5
Norwich    10.056    15-3
Illinois Wesleyan    10.050    14-6
Gustavus Adolphus    9.957    18-5
Maine-Farmington    9.909    18-4
Emory    9.889    10-8
Greensboro    9.875    13-3
               
51-60
Bridgewater (Va.)    9.875    19-5
Baruch    9.850    16-4
Simpson    9.813    15-1
Franklin    9.810    18-3
Ripon    9.810    14-7
St. Norbert    9.800    14-6
Eastern Connecticut    9.783    17-6
Maine Maritime    9.783    19-4
Mississippi College    9.783    19-4
Mount Holyoke    9.750    16-4
               
61-70
Virginia Wesleyan    9.737    14-5
Calvin    9.714    12-2
St. Lawrence    9.700    16-4
Cal Lutheran    9.688    13-3
Union    9.682    15-7
Hardin-Simmons    9.636    18-4
Oswego State    9.619    17-4
Chapman    9.615    10-3
UW-La Crosse    9.579    13-6
UW-Stevens Point    9.571    14-7
               
71-80
UW-Stout    9.556    13-5
Wilmington    9.542    17-7
Western New England    9.524    16-5
McDaniel    9.522    17-6
Luther    9.500    15-3
George Fox    9.467    10-5
Trinity (Texas)    9.467    11-4
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.450    16-4
Washington and Jefferson    9.444    15-3
Montclair State    9.409    15-7
               
81-90
Catholic    9.409    15-7
Dickinson    9.391    17-6
Oneonta State    9.381    15-6
Chicago    9.368    13-6
Otterbein    9.318    15-7
Millikin    9.300    13-7
New Jersey    9.286    14-7
Texas-Tyler    9.286    16-5
Whitman    9.250    10-6
Christopher Newport    9.158    13-6
               
91-100
Rockford    9.136    17-5
Hood    9.125    10-6
RPI    9.105    12-7
Denison    9.105    15-4
Bridgewater State    9.100    15-5
Wesley    9.100    15-5
Carleton    9.095    14-7
Endicott    9.091    13-9
Nichols    9.091    17-5
DeSales    9.083    15-9
               
101-110
Salve Regina    9.083    17-7
Elmhurst    9.053    13-6
Clark    9.045    14-8
Kenyon    9.000    14-5
Worcester State    9.000    14-8
Benedictine    9.000    12-9
William Paterson    8.955    13-9
Keene State    8.952    14-7
North Park    8.947    11-8
Middlebury    8.905    12-9
               
111-120
UW-Eau Claire    8.905    11-10
Marymount    8.895    12-7
Concordia (Wis.)    8.864    16-6
SUNY-Farmingdale    8.850    12-8
Stevens    8.833    17-7
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    8.813    12-4
Lakeland    8.800    14-6
Piedmont    8.800    15-5
University of New England    8.750    15-9
Widener    8.739    14-9

I've got Wash and Jeff at 15-4 in region. I think you missed the Thomas More loss.

Does anyone have any opinions on who the 4 Pool B bids will be awarded to? 

These are the teams that I see as the best candidates.

Updated Quality of Wins Index through games of Feb. 16:

68.  Chapman    9.615    10-3
78.  Maryville (Tenn.)    9.450    16-4
79.  Washington and Jefferson    9.444    15-3
91.  Rockford    9.136    17-5

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118.  Piedmont    8.800    15-5  Piedmont is on the bubble and might get a Pool B bid by defeating Maryville TN in the GSAC Tourney and getting lots of help elsewhere. :)

I may not understand the selection dynamics that occur on the conference call, but I believe that the "first criterion among equals" is head-to-head.  In the case of Maryville and Piedmont, Maryville has defeated Piedmont twice this season.  That weighs heavily in my mind.

QOWI through games of Sunday, Feb. 19:

1-10
DePauw     12.333     18-0
Bowdoin    12.143    19-2
Scranton    11.895    19-0
Southern Maine    11.739    22-1
Washington U.    11.722    16-2
Mary Washington    11.667    21-0
Hope    11.381    20-1
Messiah    11.350    19-1
Baldwin-Wallace    11.286    20-1
Brandeis    11.273    18-4
               
11-20
Randolph-Macon    11.238    20-1
Williams    11.136    18-4
St. John Fisher    11.130    21-2
Rochester    11.087    17-6
Bates    11.045    17-5
Pacific Lutheran    11.000    16-2
Wesleyan    10.727    18-4
Muhlenberg    10.720    23-2
Carroll    10.700    16-4
Richard Stockton    10.696    20-3
               
21-30
Oglethorpe    10.636    18-4
Medaille    10.636    21-1
Capital    10.571    18-3
Cortland State    10.478    20-3
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.444    15-3
Puget Sound    10.429    18-3
New York University    10.417    18-6
St. Benedict    10.409    19-3
William Smith    10.381    17-4
Mount St. Mary    10.348    20-3
               
31-40
Greensboro    10.333    15-3
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.333    21-3
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.240    20-5
McMurry    10.217    21-2
Illinois Wesleyan    10.190    15-6
Colby-Sawyer    10.130    19-4
Emmanuel    10.095    17-4
Springfield    10.087    17-6
St. Norbert    10.048    15-6
Maryville (Mo.)    10.000    14-0
               
41-50
Concordia-Moorhead    10.000    18-5
Salem State    10.000    18-4
Wittenberg    10.000    16-6
Lawrence    10.000    15-4
Moravian    9.958    19-5
Norwich    9.947    16-3
Maine-Farmington    9.917    20-4
UW-Oshkosh    9.909    16-6
St. Lawrence    9.909    18-4
Simpson    9.882    16-1
               
51-60
Howard Payne    9.870    20-3
Franklin    9.864    19-3
Ripon    9.810    14-7
Baruch    9.810    17-4
Union    9.792    17-7
Johns Hopkins    9.762    17-4
Calvin    9.733    13-2
Chicago    9.714    14-7
Chapman    9.714    11-3
Maine Maritime    9.708    20-4
               
61-70
Emory    9.700    11-9
Cal Lutheran    9.647    14-3
Trinity (Texas)    9.647    13-4
UW-Stout    9.632    14-5
Gustavus Adolphus    9.625    18-6
Western New England    9.591    17-5
Eastern Connecticut    9.583    18-6
Virginia Wesleyan    9.571    15-6
Montclair State    9.565    16-7
Dickinson    9.542    18-6
               
71-80
Luther    9.526    16-3
Mount Holyoke    9.524    16-5
Hardin-Simmons    9.522    19-4
Catholic    9.522    16-7
Oswego State    9.500    17-5
Wilmington    9.480    18-7
McDaniel    9.458    18-6
Otterbein    9.435    16-7
Christopher Newport    9.429    14-7
Mississippi College    9.417    19-5
               
81-90
New Jersey    9.409    15-7
UW-La Crosse    9.400    13-7
Wesley    9.333    16-5
UW-Stevens Point    9.318    15-7
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.318    18-4
Washington and Jefferson    9.300    16-4
Pitt-Greensburg    9.273    17-5
Oneonta State    9.261    17-6
Worcester State    9.261    15-8
Clark    9.261    15-8
               
91-100
DeSales    9.160    15-10
Rhodes    9.150    14-6
Piedmont    9.143    16-5
Marymount    9.100    13-7
Carleton    9.091    15-7
Millikin    9.048    13-8
William Paterson    9.043    14-9
Fredonia State    9.000    15-8
George Fox    9.000    11-6
Kenyon    9.000    15-5
               
101-110
Salve Regina    9.000    18-7
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.000    13-4
Elmhurst    9.000    13-7
SUNY-Farmingdale    8.952    13-8
Nichols    8.913    18-5
RPI    8.905    13-8
Bridgewater State    8.905    15-6
Thomas More    8.900    15-5
Elmira    8.889    12-6
Concordia (Wis.)    8.875    18-6
               
111-120
Endicott    8.870    14-9
Keene State    8.864    14-8
Hood    8.824    11-6
Worcester Polytech    8.818    14-8
Lakeland    8.818    16-6
Middlebury    8.810    12-9
Denison    8.800    15-5
Stevens    8.800    18-7
North Park    8.800    11-9
UW-Eau Claire     8.773     12-10

I noticed that Rockford lost this weekend to Clarke College from Dubuque, IA who was 8-17.  In saying that, I also saw they dropped in QOWI from #91 to somewhere beyond #120. 

So does this put them outside looking in?  It looks like Piedmont and Thomas More are ahead of them now. 

Quote from: d3d3 on February 21, 2006, 02:48:29 PM
I noticed that Rockford lost this weekend to Clarke College from Dubuque, IA who was 8-17.  In saying that, I also saw they dropped in QOWI from #91 to somewhere beyond #120. 

So does this put them outside looking in?  It looks like Piedmont and Thomas More are ahead of them now. 

D3d3, there is a chance that Piedmont could go 2-1 in the GSAC tourney and see their QOWI drop!   :o  Two 9-point wins and a 7 point loss!  (I have not seen the GSAC tourney pairings, yet!  I did not find them on the GSAC site.)

Next year, the GSAC Women become Pool A.  Rockford and NIIC-LMC amalgamation should be Pool A.  W&J and TMore become Pool A in 2007-08.

Pool B will really be "bumbly", with the exception of conference realignments.

Thanks Ralph!

So since the past weekend where does it put those who are trying to get a Pool B selection on Monday?

Let's see how Thomas More does in the Pres AC tourney and Piedmont in the GSAC!

I think that they, Rockford, blew it!

Thanks for the request to clarify, d3d3.

You think who blew it??

So no NIIC teams are getting in this year, huh?? Rockford dropped one big game..which hurt.  And next year, with the super-confrence and no AQ, its possible that one team MAYBE gets in!! I think Lakeland gets both squads in this year, from the LMC....due to the amount of conferece games next year, what do you think (Ralph) that a team in the new conference has to do non-conference to get in? I don't even think anyone has a really tough non-conference slate next year (or nothing as tough as AU women had this year; Milikin (there) Wheaton (there) Chicago (there), Elmhurst (there), Carthage, North Central, Webster (home) and North Park(there)....

Keith, I will defer to more knowledgeable voices, but if the new group were to keep the "LMC charter",  basically have the LMC absorb the NIIC, then I believe that they would retain Pool A eligibility next year.

This is what happens with respect to Pools

341=# schools in Pool A conferences in 2005-06

37= # Pool A conferences in 2005-06.

341 dividied by 37 = 9.22 for an access ratio of 1:9.22

41 = Pool B schools in 2005-06

41 divided by 9.22 = 4 Pool B schools.

In 2006-07, if the LMC and the NIIC decide to form a new conference, subtract  7 (2005-06 LMC schools) from 341 but add 8 NEAC schools who become Pool A = 342.  Divide 342 by 37 Pool A conferences to get an access ratio of 1:9.30.

Take the 41 Pool B schools + 7 LMC minus  1 (Eureka who joins the SLIAC) minus 8 members of the NEAC = 39 by 9.22 = 4 Pool B bids for 2006-07.

For the sake of the student-athletes, is there that unfavorable an image of the Lake Michigan Conference, or too much ego, lack of visibility, unfavorable marketing profile or whatever, that the NIIC schools want to spend 2 more years in "Bumbledom"  in all sports?

Or does the MSOE's dropping the LMC to 6 men's programs make all of this a moot point for the men?

Comments please.

Keith, I realize that I went off on a tangent.  More later tonight.

Keith, I am still at work, but Alverno in the women makes 8 members.  Perhaps the LMC could keep the Women's Pool A bid after the departure of MSOE.

And, Dominican makes 8 after in the men this year.

Is that long enough for the men to have 7 teams?

I am in favor of the NIIC merging into the LMC!

IMHO, most programs actually do better in a Pool A status.

QOWI through games of Thursday, Feb. 24. I believe these to be complete although there is a chance we are missing some conference tournament games. Please let me know if you have noticed such:

1-10
DePauw     12.444     18-0
Bowdoin    12.143    19-2
Scranton    11.900    20-0
Southern Maine    11.750    23-1
Washington U.    11.722    16-2
Mary Washington    11.435    23-0
Messiah    11.381    20-1
Brandeis    11.273    18-4
Baldwin-Wallace    11.261    22-1
Randolph-Macon    11.143    20-1
               
11-20
Williams    11.136    18-4
Hope    11.087    22-1
Rochester    11.087    17-6
St. John Fisher    11.043    21-2
Pacific Lutheran    11.000    16-2
Bates    10.955    17-5
Richard Stockton    10.833    21-3
Oglethorpe    10.727    18-4
Muhlenberg    10.720    23-2
Carroll    10.700    16-4
               
21-30
Capital    10.696    20-3
Medaille    10.636    21-1
Wesleyan    10.565    18-5
Cortland State    10.542    21-3
Puget Sound    10.500    19-3
New York University    10.417    18-6
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.400    22-3
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.368    16-3
Mount St. Mary    10.320    22-3
Colby-Sawyer    10.308    22-4
               
31-40
William Smith    10.286    17-4
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.269    21-5
McMurry    10.217    21-2
Springfield    10.167    18-6
Salem State    10.091    18-4
Maine-Farmington    10.080    21-4
St. Norbert    10.048    15-6
St. Benedict    10.043    19-4
Lawrence    10.000    15-4
Concordia-Moorhead    10.000    19-5
               
41-50
Greensboro    10.000    16-3
Emmanuel    10.000    18-4
Illinois Wesleyan    10.000    15-6
Maine Maritime    9.960    21-4
Moravian    9.958    19-5
Maryville (Mo.)    9.933    15-0
Wittenberg    9.913    17-6
St. Lawrence    9.909    18-4
Howard Payne    9.870    20-3
Baruch    9.864    18-4
               
51-60
Norwich    9.857    18-3
Johns Hopkins    9.857    17-4
Ripon    9.810    14-7
Emory    9.800    11-9
Union    9.792    17-7
Franklin    9.783    20-3
UW-Stout    9.762    16-5
New Jersey    9.750    17-7
UW-Oshkosh    9.750    17-7
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.739    19-4
               
61-70
Mount Holyoke    9.727    17-5
Chicago    9.714    14-7
Chapman    9.714    11-3
Western New England    9.696    18-5
Eastern Connecticut    9.680    19-6
UW-Stevens Point    9.667    17-7
Simpson    9.667    17-1
Trinity (Texas)    9.647    13-4
Calvin    9.647    15-2
Cal Lutheran    9.632    15-4
               
71-80
Oswego State    9.609    18-5
McDaniel    9.560    19-6
Luther    9.550    17-3
Dickinson    9.542    18-6
Hardin-Simmons    9.522    19-4
Wilmington    9.481    19-8
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.474    15-4
Otterbein    9.440    17-8
Mississippi College    9.417    19-5
Montclair State    9.417    16-8
               
81-90
Gustavus Adolphus    9.385    19-7
Catholic    9.320    17-8
Piedmont    9.318    17-5
UW-La Crosse    9.318    14-8
Washington and Jefferson    9.300    16-4
Pitt-Greensburg    9.273    17-5
DeSales    9.269    16-10
Endicott    9.240    16-9
Texas-Tyler    9.227    17-5 INELIGIBLE
Clark    9.208    16-8

91-100
Carleton    9.208    17-7
Oneonta State    9.208    17-7
Virginia Wesleyan    9.182    15-7
Wesley    9.182    17-5
Christopher Newport    9.182    14-8
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.174    15-8
Worcester State    9.174    15-8
Rhodes    9.150    14-6
Marymount    9.136    15-7
Salve Regina    9.111    19-8

QOWI through Friday, Feb. 25:


1-10
DePauw     12.158     19-0
Bowdoin    12.143    19-2
Scranton    11.900    20-0
Southern Maine    11.760    24-1
Washington U.    11.722    16-2
Mary Washington    11.435    23-0
Messiah    11.381    20-1
Brandeis    11.273    18-4
Baldwin-Wallace    11.261    22-1
Williams    11.136    18-4
               
11-20
Randolph-Macon    11.136    21-1
Hope    11.087    22-1
Pacific Lutheran    11.000    16-2
Rochester    11.000    17-6
Bates    10.955    17-5
St. John Fisher    10.833    22-2
Wesleyan    10.727    18-4
Muhlenberg    10.720    23-2
Capital    10.696    20-3
Richard Stockton    10.640    21-4
               
21-30
Carroll    10.571    17-4
Puget Sound    10.500    19-3
Cortland State    10.480    22-3
Oglethorpe    10.478    19-4
New York University    10.417    18-6
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.400    22-3
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.370    22-5
William Smith    10.364    18-4
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.350    17-3
Medaille    10.348    22-1
               
31-40
Mount St. Mary    10.320    22-3
Colby-Sawyer    10.308    22-4
Greensboro    10.250    17-3
McMurry    10.250    22-2
Maine-Farmington    10.192    22-4
Springfield    10.167    18-6
St. Lawrence    10.130    19-4
Norwich    10.091    19-3
St. Norbert    10.091    16-6
Baruch    10.087    19-4
               
41-50
Salem State    10.087    19-4
Emmanuel    10.087    19-4
Illinois Wesleyan    10.045    16-6
St. Benedict    10.043    19-4
Maine Maritime    10.038    22-4
Concordia-Moorhead    10.000    19-5
New Jersey    9.960    18-7
Moravian    9.958    19-5
Howard Payne    9.833    21-3
Maryville (Mo.)    9.813    16-0
               
51-60
Eastern Connecticut    9.808    20-6
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.800    3-2
Johns Hopkins    9.762    17-4
UW-Stout    9.762    16-5
Wittenberg    9.750    17-7
Mount Holyoke    9.727    17-5
Chicago    9.714    14-7
Franklin    9.708    21-3
Emory    9.700    11-9
Ripon    9.682    14-8
               
61-70
Simpson    9.667    17-1
UW-Oshkosh    9.667    17-7
UW-Stevens Point    9.667    17-7
Lawrence    9.650    15-5
Calvin    9.647    15-2
Cal Lutheran    9.632    15-4
Trinity (Texas)    9.611    14-4
Union    9.600    17-8
Western New England    9.583    18-6
Oswego State    9.583    19-5
               
71-80
McDaniel    9.560    19-6
Luther    9.550    17-3
Dickinson    9.542    18-6
Wilmington    9.481    19-8
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.474    15-4
Otterbein    9.440    17-8
Montclair State    9.417    16-8
Chapman    9.400    11-4
Gustavus Adolphus    9.385    19-7
Catholic    9.320    17-8
               
81-90
Kenyon    9.318    17-5
UW-La Crosse    9.318    14-8
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.292    20-4
Christopher Newport    9.273    14-8
DeSales    9.269    16-10
Hardin-Simmons    9.250    19-5
Endicott    9.240    16-9
Washington and Jefferson    9.238    17-4
Texas-Tyler    9.227    17-5 INELIGIBLE
Clark    9.208    16-8
               
91-100
Carleton    9.208    17-7
Wesley    9.182    17-5
Virginia Wesleyan    9.182    15-7
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.174    15-8
Hood    9.158    13-6
Rhodes    9.143    15-6
Marymount    9.136    15-7
Mississippi College    9.120    19-6
Salve Regina    9.111    19-8
Pitt-Greensburg    9.087    18-5
               
101-110
Worcester State    9.083    15-9
William Paterson    9.080    15-10
Denison    9.045    17-5
Piedmont    9.043    17-6
Millikin    9.000    14-8
Bridgewater State    9.000    16-6
George Fox    9.000    11-6
Oneonta State    8.958    17-7
Nichols    8.875    18-6
Worcester Polytech    8.870    15-8
               
111-120
Keene State    8.833    15-9
Rockford    8.833    18-6
Lakeland    8.818    16-6
RPI    8.818    13-9
Geneseo State    8.818    14-8
Middlebury    8.818    13-9
Concordia (Wis.)    8.792    18-6
Thomas More    8.773    17-5
Fredonia State    8.720    16-9
Elmira    8.700    13-7

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 25, 2006, 10:46:18 AM
QOWI through Friday, Feb. 25:


1-10
DePauw     12.158     19-0
Bowdoin    12.143    19-2
Scranton    11.900    20-0
Southern Maine    11.760    24-1
Washington U.    11.722    16-2
Mary Washington    11.435    23-0
Messiah    11.381    20-1
Brandeis    11.273    18-4
Baldwin-Wallace    11.261    22-1
Williams    11.136    18-4
               
11-20
Randolph-Macon    11.136    21-1
Hope    11.087    22-1
Pacific Lutheran    11.000    16-2
Rochester    11.000    17-6
Bates    10.955    17-5
St. John Fisher    10.833    22-2
Wesleyan    10.727    18-4
Muhlenberg    10.720    23-2
Capital    10.696    20-3
Richard Stockton    10.640    21-4
               
21-30
Carroll    10.571    17-4
Puget Sound    10.500    19-3
Cortland State    10.480    22-3
Oglethorpe    10.478    19-4
New York University    10.417    18-6
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.400    22-3
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.370    22-5
William Smith    10.364    18-4
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.350    17-3
Medaille    10.348    22-1
               
31-40
Mount St. Mary    10.320    22-3
Colby-Sawyer    10.308    22-4
Greensboro    10.250    17-3
McMurry    10.250    22-2
Maine-Farmington    10.192    22-4
Springfield    10.167    18-6
St. Lawrence    10.130    19-4
Norwich    10.091    19-3
St. Norbert    10.091    16-6
Baruch    10.087    19-4
               
41-50
Salem State    10.087    19-4
Emmanuel    10.087    19-4
Illinois Wesleyan    10.045    16-6
St. Benedict    10.043    19-4
Maine Maritime    10.038    22-4
Concordia-Moorhead    10.000    19-5
New Jersey    9.960    18-7
Moravian    9.958    19-5
Howard Payne    9.833    21-3
Maryville (Mo.)    9.813    16-0
               
51-60
Eastern Connecticut    9.808    20-6
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.800    3-2   Pool B candidate
Johns Hopkins    9.762    17-4
UW-Stout    9.762    16-5
Wittenberg    9.750    17-7
Mount Holyoke    9.727    17-5
Chicago    9.714    14-7
Franklin    9.708    21-3
Emory    9.700    11-9
Ripon    9.682    14-8
               
61-70
Simpson    9.667    17-1
UW-Oshkosh    9.667    17-7
UW-Stevens Point    9.667    17-7
Lawrence    9.650    15-5
Calvin    9.647    15-2
Cal Lutheran    9.632    15-4
Trinity (Texas)    9.611    14-4
Union    9.600    17-8
Western New England    9.583    18-6
Oswego State    9.583    19-5
               
71-80
McDaniel    9.560    19-6
Luther    9.550    17-3
Dickinson    9.542    18-6
Wilmington    9.481    19-8
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.474    15-4
Otterbein    9.440    17-8
Montclair State    9.417    16-8
Chapman    9.400    11-4        Pool B Candidate
Gustavus Adolphus    9.385    19-7
Catholic    9.320    17-8
               
81-90
Kenyon    9.318    17-5
UW-La Crosse    9.318    14-8
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.292    20-4                   Pool B Candidate
Christopher Newport    9.273    14-8
DeSales    9.269    16-10
Hardin-Simmons    9.250    19-5
Endicott    9.240    16-9
Washington and Jefferson    9.238    17-4  Pool B Candidate
Texas-Tyler    9.227    17-5 INELIGIBLE
Clark    9.208    16-8
               
91-100
Carleton    9.208    17-7
Wesley    9.182    17-5
Virginia Wesleyan    9.182    15-7
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.174    15-8
Hood    9.158    13-6
Rhodes    9.143    15-6
Marymount    9.136    15-7
Mississippi College    9.120    19-6
Salve Regina    9.111    19-8
Pitt-Greensburg    9.087    18-5
               
101-110
Worcester State    9.083    15-9
William Paterson    9.080    15-10
Denison    9.045    17-5
Piedmont    9.043    17-6                   Pool B Candidate
Millikin    9.000    14-8
Bridgewater State    9.000    16-6
George Fox    9.000    11-6
Oneonta State    8.958    17-7
Nichols    8.875    18-6
Worcester Polytech    8.870    15-8
               
111-120
Keene State    8.833    15-9
Rockford    8.833    18-6                    Pool B Candidate
Lakeland    8.818    16-6
RPI    8.818    13-9
Geneseo State    8.818    14-8
Middlebury    8.818    13-9
Concordia (Wis.)    8.792    18-6
Thomas More    8.773    17-5   Pool B Candidate
Fredonia State    8.720    16-9
Elmira    8.700    13-7

Maryville (TN) beat Agnes Scott in the GSAC finals 66-29.  It probably hurts the QOWI but ought to get them a Pool B.

Anyone have any insight or predictions on the 4 Pool B spots (especially Pat or Ralph)????

Latest Results: Association of Division III Independents
West Coast Championship
Feb. 24
Nebraska Wesleyan University 91, Chapman University 67
Colorado College 68, University of Dallas 58
Feb. 25
Chapman University 65, University of Dallas 61 (Third-Place Game)
Colorado College 73, Nebraska Wesleyan University 68 (OT) (Championship Game)

http://www.coloradocollege.edu/athletics/varsity_sports/wbasketball/

I think that knocks down Neb Wes.

I don't think that the Chapman (West Region) over UDallas (South Region counts as an in-region game for the NCAA.

The Neb Wes loss is worth 5 points for Chapman.

Looks as if it will be:

Wash and Jeff
Maryville (Tenn)
Chapman

and either:
Piedmont
Nebraska Wesleyan
Thomas More
Rockford

Not yet, D3d3, but maybe by the end of the night. Gotta get caught up on stuff.

1. Wash & Jeff  18-4, 22-4
2. Maryville  21-4, 22-6
3. Rockford  19-6, 21-6
4. Chapman  11-4, 18-8


Sorry -
5. Piedmont  17-6, 22-7
6. Thomas More  17-6, 20-8

Anybody else have predictions??  Ralph and Pat, I am still waiting!!!

POOL B             reg. rec.(%)   QoWI     Common Opp.   Head-head    -vs Ranked
1. Wash & Jeff  18-4 (.818)     9.818        none               none                none
2. Maryville       21-4 (.826)     9.28          none               none                none
3. Rockford       19-6 (.760)     8.88          none               none                none
4. Chapman     11-4 (.733)     9.133        none               none                 none


Sorry -
Piedmont       17-6 (.739)     8.78
Thomas More 17-6 (.739)     8.78

d3d3, I am awaiting the final QOWI.

Your selections look interesting.

QOWI THROUGH SATURDAY:

1-10
DePauw     12.300     20-0
Bowdoin    12.273    20-2
Scranton    11.905    21-0
Southern Maine    11.846    25-1
Washington U.    11.684    17-2
Messiah    11.500    21-1
Randolph-Macon    11.304    22-1
Brandeis    11.217    19-4
Hope    11.208    23-1
Pacific Lutheran    11.158    17-2
               
11-20
Mary Washington    11.125    23-1
Bates    11.087    18-5
Baldwin-Wallace    11.042    22-2
Williams    10.957    18-5
St. John Fisher    10.880    23-2
Capital    10.875    21-3
Muhlenberg    10.846    24-2
Rochester    10.750    18-6
Carroll    10.727    18-4
Richard Stockton    10.640    21-4
               
21-30
Wesleyan    10.565    18-5
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.538    23-3
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.524    18-3
William Smith    10.522    19-4
Medaille    10.500    23-1
Mount St. Mary    10.385    23-3
Maine-Farmington    10.370    23-4
Colby-Sawyer    10.370    23-4
McMurry    10.360    23-2
Puget Sound    10.348    19-4
               
31-40
Cortland State    10.346    22-4
Norwich    10.304    20-3
Greensboro    10.286    18-3
Oglethorpe    10.250    19-5
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.250    22-6
Salem State    10.167    20-4
Concordia-Moorhead    10.160    20-5
New York University    10.120    18-7
Baruch    10.087    19-4
Springfield    10.080    19-6
               
41-50
St. Benedict    10.043    19-4
Johns Hopkins    10.000    18-4
St. Lawrence    10.000    19-5
New Jersey    9.960    18-7
UW-Stout    9.955    17-5
Maryville (Mo.)    9.941    17-0
Emmanuel    9.917    19-5
Illinois Wesleyan    9.913    16-7
Trinity (Texas)    9.895    15-4
Simpson    9.895    18-1

51-60
St. Norbert    9.870    16-7
Moravian    9.840    19-6
Maine Maritime    9.815    22-5
Oswego State    9.800    20-5
Wittenberg    9.750    17-7
Mount Holyoke    9.696    18-5
Ripon    9.682    14-8
UW-Oshkosh    9.667    17-7
Lawrence    9.650    15-5
Cal Lutheran    9.632    15-4

61-70
Eastern Connecticut    9.630    20-7
Union    9.600    17-8
Western New England    9.583    18-6
UW-Stevens Point    9.560    17-8
Howard Payne    9.560    21-4
Franklin    9.560    21-4
Chicago    9.545    14-8
Calvin    9.500    15-3
Wilmington    9.481    19-8
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.474    15-4

71-80
McDaniel    9.462    19-7
Washington and Jefferson    9.455    18-4
Dickinson    9.440    18-7
Otterbein    9.440    17-8
Luther    9.429    17-4
Montclair State    9.417    16-8
Chapman    9.400    11-4
Marymount    9.391    16-7
Gustavus Adolphus    9.385    19-7
Catholic    9.320    17-8

81-90
UW-La Crosse    9.318    14-8
Denison    9.304    18-5
Emory    9.286    11-10
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.280    21-4
Hardin-Simmons    9.250    19-5
Texas-Tyler    9.227    17-5
Kenyon    9.217    17-6
DeSales    9.185    16-11
Christopher Newport    9.182    14-8
Virginia Wesleyan    9.182    15-7

91-100
Endicott    9.154    16-10
Clark    9.120    16-9
Mississippi College    9.120    19-6
Carleton    9.120    17-8
Salve Regina    9.111    19-8
Wesley    9.087    17-6
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.083    15-9
Worcester State    9.083    15-9
William Paterson    9.080    15-10
Hood    9.050    14-6

101-110
Lakeland    9.043    17-6
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.000    3-3
Rhodes    9.000    15-7
Pitt-Greensburg    9.000    18-6
Millikin    9.000    14-8
George Fox    9.000    11-6
Oneonta State    8.958    17-7
Bridgewater State    8.913    16-7
Keuka    8.900    13-7
Rockford    8.880    19-6

111-120
Keene State    8.833    15-9
Middlebury    8.818    13-9
Geneseo State    8.818    14-8
RPI    8.818    13-9
Nichols    8.792    18-6
Piedmont    8.783    17-6
Fredonia State    8.720    16-9
Concordia (Wis.)    8.720    18-7
UW-Eau Claire    8.696    12-11
Thomas More    8.696    17-6

I believe I have the same four Bs as chapdog.

What is with Nebraska Wesleyan??  Why are they even being considered?  Also, I am suprised how far Thomas More dropped after the loss to Wash & Jeff, who is a very good team.  What about VJC and Baptist BC, they finished the season with a good record and good region record?

I have 3 locks:

Wash & Jeff
Maryville (Tenn)
Chapman

Other left for 1 spot:
Piedmont
Thomas More
Rockford
VJC
Philly Bible

These 5 contenders--records of opponents they lost to:
Thomas More (159-53)
Piedmont (105-58)
VJC (123-63)
Philly Bible (103-72)
Rockford (83-74)

Records of opponents lost to is not one of the criteria.

d3d3 -

You must understand the primary criteria if you want to project what the NCAA will decide. The records of opponents teams lose to is not one of the criteria. QoWI is the way a team's wins and losses are considered, so I guess in a way that is already taken into account.

The primary criteria - All 5 are considered, with none being more important (supposedly), although the committee seems to lean heavily on regional record

1. Regional record
2. QoWI
3. Head-to-Head
4. Record -vs- Common In-Region opponents
5. In Region results vs regionally ranked teams

With that said, I think all four are a lock -
1. Wash and Jeff
2. Maryville
3. Chapman
4. Rockford

I understand the criteria, but I think the last spot is close.  Do you not think it is close? 

Oh, the last two spots are close, but it is also clear. Chapman and Rockford are clearly ahead of the others, based on the criteria. The NCAA will stick to their system, in my opinion.  They have eliminated 'lobbying' for teams by setting the criteria - they could almost have a computer spit out the selections this way - right or wrong; agree or disagree; this is how they operate.

For this reason, this is why Pat and his crew are almost exactly 'on' every year with their projections. They understand the criteria and how the teams are evaluated. I'm also pretty sure they don't believe that all the 'right teams' are selected, but they understand the NCAA 'system' and can crunch the numbers.

Quote from: chapdog on February 26, 2006, 02:23:26 PM
Oh, the last two spots are close, but it is also clear. Chapman and Rockford are clearly ahead of the others, based on the criteria. The NCAA will stick to their system, in my opinion.  They have eliminated 'lobbying' for teams by setting the criteria - they could almost have a computer spit out the selections this way - right or wrong; agree or disagree; this is how they operate.

For this reason, this is why Pat and his crew are almost exactly 'on' every year with their projections. They understand the criteria and how the teams are evaluated. I'm also pretty sure they don't believe that all the 'right teams' are selected, but they understand the NCAA 'system' and can crunch the numbers.

Plus 1,  Chapdog!

Quote from: chapdog on February 26, 2006, 02:23:26 PM
For this reason, this is why Pat and his crew are almost exactly 'on' every year with their projections. They understand the criteria and how the teams are evaluated. I'm also pretty sure they don't believe that all the 'right teams' are selected, but they understand the NCAA 'system' and can crunch the numbers.

I agree. These are not always the teams we would have chosen, but we are trying to replicate their process.

Today numbers:

1-10
DePauw     12.429     21-0
Bowdoin    12.391    21-2
Scranton    11.905    21-0
Southern Maine    11.846    25-1
Washington U.    11.684    17-2
Messiah    11.500    21-1
Randolph-Macon    11.304    22-1
Brandeis    11.217    19-4
Hope    11.208    23-1
Pacific Lutheran    11.158    17-2
               
11-20
Mary Washington    11.125    23-1
Baldwin-Wallace    11.042    22-2
Muhlenberg    10.963    25-2
Williams    10.957    18-5
St. John Fisher    10.880    23-2
Capital    10.875    21-3
Bates    10.875    18-6
Rochester    10.750    18-6
Carroll    10.727    18-4
Richard Stockton    10.640    21-4
               
21-30
Wesleyan    10.565    18-5
Gwynedd-Mercy    10.538    23-3
Wheaton (Ill.)    10.524    18-3
William Smith    10.522    19-4
Medaille    10.500    23-1
McMurry    10.385    24-2
Mount St. Mary    10.385    23-3
Maine-Farmington    10.370    23-4
Colby-Sawyer    10.370    23-4
Puget Sound    10.348    19-4
               
31-40
Cortland State    10.346    22-4
Norwich    10.304    20-3
Greensboro    10.286    18-3
Bridgewater (Va.)    10.250    22-6
Oglethorpe    10.250    19-5
Springfield    10.231    20-6
Salem State    10.167    20-4
Concordia-Moorhead    10.160    20-5
New York University    10.120    18-7
Baruch    10.087    19-4

41-50
St. Benedict    10.043    19-4
St. Lawrence    10.000    19-5
New Jersey    9.960    18-7
UW-Stout    9.955    17-5
Maryville (Mo.)    9.941    17-0
Emmanuel    9.917    19-5
Illinois Wesleyan    9.913    16-7
Simpson    9.895    18-1
St. Norbert    9.870    16-7
Johns Hopkins    9.870    18-5

51-60
Moravian    9.840    19-6
Maine Maritime    9.815    22-5
Oswego State    9.800    20-5
Trinity (Texas)    9.750    15-5
Wittenberg    9.750    17-7
Ripon    9.682    14-8
UW-Oshkosh    9.667    17-7
Lawrence    9.650    15-5
Cal Lutheran    9.632    15-4
Eastern Connecticut    9.630    20-7

61-70
Union    9.600    17-8
Western New England    9.583    18-6
Mount Holyoke    9.583    18-6
UW-Stevens Point    9.560    17-8
Howard Payne    9.560    21-4
Chicago    9.545    14-8
Calvin    9.500    15-3
Wilmington    9.481    19-8
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.474    15-4
McDaniel    9.462    19-7

71-80
Franklin    9.458    21-4
Washington and Jefferson    9.455    18-4
Otterbein    9.440    17-8
Dickinson    9.440    18-7
Luther    9.429    17-4
Montclair State    9.417    16-8
Chapman    9.400    11-4
Marymount    9.391    16-7
Gustavus Adolphus    9.385    19-7
Catholic    9.320    17-8

81-90
UW-La Crosse    9.318    14-8
Denison    9.304    18-5
Emory    9.286    11-10
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.280    21-4
Hardin-Simmons    9.250    19-5
Texas-Tyler    9.227    17-5
Kenyon    9.217    17-6
DeSales    9.185    16-11
Christopher Newport    9.182    14-8
Virginia Wesleyan    9.182    15-7

91-100
Endicott    9.154    16-10
Clark    9.120    16-9
Carleton    9.120    17-8
Mississippi College    9.120    19-6
Salve Regina    9.111    19-8
Wesley    9.087    17-6
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.083    15-9
Worcester State    9.083    15-9
William Paterson    9.080    15-10
Hood    9.050    14-6

The  Maryville TN Daily Times (http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/259189) reports that the GSAC will move to Pool A status for the 2006-07 season in all sports.  The conference has 8 members.  So we will probably see the Pool B bid allocated for those 8 members moved to Pool A.

Maryville TN has gotten the Pool B bid most years in the past, but the conference has a post-season tourney.   Last year, the Huntingdon men won the GSAC tourney, but it was not enough to earn the Pool B bid.

We also need to look for the status of the North Eastern AC (NEAC) to move as well for the 2006-07 season.

The Presidents AC schools will be eligible to move to Pool A in 2007-08.

The addition of Colorado College to the SCAC also drops the number in the Pool B allocation ratio numerator in 2007-08.  The status of the "Interstate 8" will impact Pool B during its first 2 years as well, 2007-08 and 2008-09.

The 2007 Women's Basketball Handbook (http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/basketball/2007/2007_d3_w_basketball_handbook.pdf) is out!

There are 4 Pool B bids to be awarded this year.

The Great South AC has moved to Pool A.  The members of the former Lake Michigan Conference are now in Pool B.  We anticipate that the Northern Athletics Conference will move to Pool A in the 2008-09 season.  This is likely the last year for the Presidents AC to be a member of Pool B.

There are 39 Pool A (Automatic Qualifiying) Conferences. There will be 20 Pool C bids given.

This is a preliminary look at the Pool B contenders for the women.  The women have not had any teams break away from the pack.  Thomas More and Concordia are off to the best starts.

School/Conference/Overall/In-Region/Percentage

Thomas More ---    PresAC    --  7-1/6-1  --  .857
CorcordiaWI   ---    NathCon --  4-1/3-1  --  .750
UDallas          ---     Ind        --   5-4/4-3  --   .571
Chapman       ---     Ind         --  6-4/5-4  --  .556

This list is very incomplete.  With UDallas and Chapman hovering around .500, it is possible for another team to move up in conference play.

Remember there are 4 Pool B bids.

(The GSAC has a Pool A bid this year.  The NCAA website is down, as its server is being maintained.)

In the last three weeks, we have had some separation in Pool B (Women).

Chapman is on course to lock in a Pool B bid early.  They are 11-4 overall and 9-4 in-region.  In fact, Chapman is the only Independent that has an overall record over .500 (at this minute).  The Lady Panthers have 6 more in-region games.  If they go 5-1 in that stretch, they will have an in-region record of 14-5 (.737),  but probably lock in the Pool B bid with their season finale vs. UDallas on February 18th.

Among the other independents, I thought that UDallas (6-7 overall/4-6 in-region) had the best chance at a Pool B bid, but they have not won some crucial games in the first half of the season.  The Lady Crusaders have 11 in-region games remaining, of which the most important may be the final game at Chapman.  A 15-6 (.714) in-region record might pull a Pool B bid, if there is no separation in the Northern Athletics Confernece,

Thomas More has the best record in the Presidents' AC, which probably moves to Pool A next year.  The Saints are 10-2 overall, 7-2 in-region and 1-0 in conference play, and were the favorite tabbed in the pre-season poll.  Even going 9-2 in the last 11 in-region regular season games gives TMC an in-region record of 16-4 (.800).

Traditional power W&J was named 2nd.  They are 7-6/4-6/0-1 and must improve their in-region record in conference play.  Sweeping the remaining 11 PresAC in-region games will give Lady Presidents a 15-6 (.714) record.

The Lake Michigan Conference and the Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference have merged into the Northern Athletics Conference.  That throws them into Pool B for the next 2 years.  There are six teams that are at the top at this time.

Benedictine is 8-3/7-3/5-1 and leads the NAthCon.  The Lady Eagles have a key win at Concordia-Wisconsin.

Concordia-Wisconsin is 7-3/5-2/5-1, and was picked to win (http://northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2006/2006_11/20061101b.html) the NAthCon.

Other NAthCon teams in contention for a Pool B bid at this early part of the season are Wisconsin Lutheran, Aurora, Lakeland and Edgewood.  It is my guess that the key to the distribution of Pool B bids depends on how much separation the top teams in the NAthCon achieve from the rest of the conference.  Attaining a 16-3 conference record may pull any of the NAthCon teams into serious Pool B contention.  I mention 16-3 in conference record, because each NAthCon contender has several in-region losses.  Anything less in-conference is risky for getting a Pool B bid.

I have "bold-fonted" the four that seem to be leading Pool B at this time.

(The Great South Athletic Conference has earned a Pool A bid.)

Corrections and other opinions are greatly appreciated.

I know it's early yet, but IMHO Concordia-WI will darn near have to win out: 

Concordia-WI--Slow start, but the Falcons have been on a roll of late.

Edgewood--Not that deep a bench, yet still hanging in there.

Lakeland--lost a lot to graduation. Offense has been inconsistent.

Benedictine--lost one of their guards to injury--depends on whether anyone steps it up.

Aurora--unexpected loss at Marian hurts them

Lakeland and Edgewood--(in terms of number of overall losses) appear to be on the thinnest ice at this point.

WLC-- depends on how consistent they remain on offense--they have to play both Edgewood and Concordia, WI on the road yet--

:-X :-\ :-X :-\ ;) ;)

Lakeland women help their cause by knocking off Maranatha on the road tonight, 60-47.

Concordia-WI, Aurora and WLC all win--Benedictine and Edgewood both lose in NathCon action:

Concorida-WI, Aurora, and WLC each garner 1 more NathCon win today.

Pool B update:

Two weeks ago, I was ready to give Chapman a Pool B bid.  Conference play in the Pres AC and the NAthCon have permitted those conference leaders to build strong in-region records.  Teams are ranked by In-Region Percentage.


Team/Conference/Overall Record/In-Region Record/In-Region Percentage/In-Region games remaining

1)  Concordia WI/NAthCon/11-3/9-2/.818/ 9 + Conference Tourney
2)  Thomas More/Pres AC/13-3/11-3/.786/ 7 + Conference Tourney
3)  Westminster PA/Pres AC/12-4/11-4/.733/ 8 + Conference Tourney
4)  Aurora/NAthCon/10-5/10-4/.714/ 10 + Conference Tourney

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5)  Chapman/Ind/14-5/11-5*/.688/ 4 + Possible conference tourney
6)  Lincoln/Ind/9-6/8-4/.667/ 6 (No Tourney confirmed)

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  Wisconsin Lutheran/NAthCon/9-5/8-5/.616/ 11 + Conference Tourney

*Assuming Chapman won both games this weekend.

Corrections appreciated.

As far as remaining NathCon schedules for those "in-contention squads", WLC has 6 home games and 4 road games left in regular season. The other two have 5 home and 5 away, respectively. There still hasn't quite been enough separation between the leaders and the middle of the pack just yet. Concordia, WI can help its' cause big time if it just keeps on winning.

Concordia-WI women beat Lakeland, and Wisconsin Lutheran lost--now the Falcons have a 3-game lead in the NAthCon.

Pool B update--

The conference tourneys begin in about 2 weeks, and the conferences are deep into their seasons.  There are 4 Pool B bids.

I have sorted the teams by in-region record.

Team/Conference/ Overall/ In-Region/In-region %age/ In-region games remaining

1)  Concordia WI/ NATHC/ 16-3/ 13-2/ .867/ 5 games + tourney
2)  Thomas More/ PresAC/ 17-3/ 13-3/ .813/ 5 games + tourney
3)  Westminster/ PresAC/ 16-5/ 12-5/ .706/  4 games + tourney
4)  Chapman/  Ind/ 16-5/ 12-5/ .706/ 3 games + D-III Independents Tourney

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5t)  Benedictine/ NATHC/ 14-6/ 13-6/ .684/  5 games + tourney
5t)  Aurora/ NATHC/ 13-7/ 13-6/.684/ 5 games + tourney

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also  Lincoln/ Ind/ 12-8/ 9-5/ .643/ 4 games (No Tourney confirmed)

Remaining regular season In-Conference Schedules for NAthCon Pool B Contenders:

Aurora:    vs. Maranatha, vs. Edgewood, at Dominican, at Alverno, at Rockford.

Benedictine:    vs. Concordia-WI, at Lakeland, vs. WLC, at Maranatha, at Edgewood.

Concordia-WI:    at Benedictine, vs. WLC, at Maranatha, at Marian, vs. Dominican.


IMHO, On paper, Aurora has the easier schedule of the 3. Can't see Concordia-WI losing to WLC at home. All 3 teams need to be careful, though. Rockford won over the weekend (probably knocking WLC out of Pool B contention in the process,) and Dominican gave Edgewood a good run for its' money before losing. If the Spartans or Benedictine want the top seed for NAthCon's post-season tournament, they'll probably have to win out and get help. (In that event, however, unless other out-of-conference Pool B contenders stumble, the likelihood of any NAthCon women's team to get a bid to Nationals decreases some.)  :-X :-[ :-X :-[ :) ;) :) ;)

I think that the NAthCon gets one Pool B bid.

Concordia-WI knocked off Benedictine, IL on the road this evening.

Concordia-WI beat WLC by 10, clinching at least a tie for the NAthCon regular season title.

First published run of Quality of Wins Index for women this season, through Saturday's games.

Categories are: Overall rank in Division III in QOWI, QOWI, Rank within region, team name, regional win pct. (record), overall record.

Overall   Points   In-Region   Team   Region Win%   Overall
1   12.273   1   Bowdoin   0.955 (21-1)   23-1
2   12.045   1   Messiah   0.955 (21-1)   21-2
3   11.818   2   Fitchburg State   0.955 (21-1)   21-1
4   11.714   1   UW-Stout   0.857 (18-3)   19-5
5   11.684   3   Emmanuel   0.947 (18-1)   20-1
6   11.455   4   Southern Maine   0.955 (21-1)   21-1
7   11.286   1   New York University   0.905 (19-2)   19-2
8   11.286   2   Rochester   0.857 (18-3)   18-3
9   11.267   1   DePauw   0.867 (13-2)   20-2
10   11.250   3   Cortland State   0.950 (19-1)   20-1
11   11.182   1   Mary Washington   0.909 (20-2)   21-2
12   11.150   5   Williams   0.800 (16-4)   19-5
13   11.143   2   Scranton   0.905 (19-2)   21-2
14   11.000   1   Howard Payne   0.955 (21-1)   22-1
15   11.000   1   Luther   0.875 (14-2)   18-4
16   10.955   3   McDaniel   0.909 (20-2)   20-2
17   10.870   4   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.913 (21-2)   21-2
18   10.850   6   Maine Maritime   0.900 (18-2)   20-2
19   10.850   4   St. Lawrence   0.950 (19-1)   21-2
20   10.800   2   UW-Whitewater   0.750 (15-5)   17-6
21   10.800   2   Calvin   1.000 (15-0)   21-1
22   10.789   3   Chicago   0.789 (15-4)   17-4
23   10.778   4   Lake Forest   0.944 (17-1)   19-2
24   10.722   2   Simpson   0.778 (14-4)   18-5
25   10.650   5   Carroll   0.850 (17-3)   18-3
26   10.636   2   Kean   0.864 (19-3)   20-3
27   10.632   7   Brandeis   0.789 (15-4)   16-4
28   10.632   6   Illinois Wesleyan   0.895 (17-2)   19-3
29   10.619   3   Mount St. Mary   0.905 (19-2)   20-3
30   10.588   3   Puget Sound   0.882 (15-2)   19-4
31   10.500   3   Wilmington   0.800 (16-4)   19-4
32   10.450   4   Denison   0.850 (17-3)   19-4
33   10.389   7   Concordia (Wis.)   0.889 (16-2)   19-3
34   10.389   8   UW-Eau Claire   0.722 (13-5)   16-7
35   10.368   2   Oglethorpe   0.842 (16-3)   17-5
36   10.286   8   Norwich   0.905 (19-2)   20-2
37   10.273   9   Maine-Farmington   0.864 (19-3)   19-3
38   10.261   4   Gustavus Adolphus   0.870 (20-3)   20-3
39   10.227   10   Keene State   0.773 (17-5)   17-5
40   10.227   5   Capital   0.773 (17-5)   17-5
41   10.190   5   Oswego State   0.714 (15-6)   15-7
42   10.190   5   St. Benedict   0.905 (19-2)   19-4
43   10.182   3   McMurry   0.864 (19-3)   20-3
44   10.167   6   Chapman   0.722 (13-5)   18-5
45   10.150   4   Randolph-Macon   0.850 (17-3)   18-4
46   10.136   11   Tufts   0.682 (15-7)   16-7
47   10.091   4   William Paterson   0.864 (19-3)   20-4
48   10.091   6   Baldwin-Wallace   0.773 (17-5)   18-5
49   10.087   5   Albright   0.696 (16-7)   16-7
50   10.056   9   Millikin   0.833 (15-3)   18-4
51   10.056   10   Washington U.   0.778 (14-4)   16-5
52   10.053   6   Medaille   0.895 (17-2)   19-4
53   10.053   5   East Texas Baptist   0.842 (16-3)   20-4
54   10.000   7   Brockport State   0.750 (15-5)   17-5
55   10.000   6   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.867 (13-2)   18-3
56   9.955   12   Colby-Sawyer   0.818 (18-4)   18-4
57   9.955   6   Muhlenberg   0.818 (18-4)   19-4
58   9.950   11   UW-Stevens Point   0.700 (14-6)   16-6
59   9.905   7   Virginia Wesleyan   0.810 (17-4)   19-5
60   9.900   7   Manchester   0.800 (16-4)   16-6
61   9.895   8   Transylvania   0.737 (14-5)   16-7
62   9.875   12   Maryville (Mo.)   0.813 (13-3)   17-5
63   9.857   8   Hardin-Simmons   0.810 (17-4)   18-4
64   9.824   9   Hope   0.824 (14-3)   19-3
65   9.800   7   George Fox   0.719 (11-4)   15-6
66   9.789   13   Salve Regina   0.789 (15-4)   16-6
67   9.737   14   Mount Holyoke   0.684 (13-6)   16-7
68   9.737   8   RPI   0.684 (13-6)   14-8
69   9.700   10   Rose-Hulman   0.850 (17-3)   21-3
70   9.684   11   Thomas More   0.778 (14-4)   18-4
71   9.682   15   Worcester Polytech   0.727 (16-6)   16-6
72   9.667   9   Elmira   0.786 (11-3)   18-4
73   9.667   7   Dickinson   0.810 (17-4)   19-4
74   9.667   12   Ohio Northern   0.714 (15-6)   16-7
75   9.652   16   Bates   0.609 (14-9)   14-9
76   9.600   9   Ferrum   0.750 (15-5)   16-6
77   9.571   5   Stevens   0.857 (18-3)   19-4
78   9.556   10   Hendrix   0.833 (15-3)   18-4
79   9.556   13   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.722 (13-5)   15-6
80   9.526   13   Westminster (Pa.)   0.737 (14-5)   18-5
81   9.500   10   Hamilton   0.667 (12-6)   15-6
82   9.500   6   York (Pa.)   0.667 (16-8)   16-8
83   9.476   17   Suffolk   0.762 (16-5)   16-7
84   9.455   7   Baruch   0.727 (16-6)   18-7
85   9.450   18   Eastern Connecticut   0.600 (12-8)   13-10
86   9.412   14   Carthage   0.706 (12-5)   14-8
87   9.409   14   Penn State-Behrend   0.864 (19-3)   19-3
88   9.381   8   Marymount   0.750 (15-5)   15-8
89   9.375   8   La Verne   0.750 (12-4)   16-5
90   9.300   11   Trinity (Texas)   0.650 (13-7)   15-7
91   9.263   19   Mass-Boston   0.684 (13-6)   15-8
92   9.263   12   Eastern Mennonite   0.789 (15-4)   16-5
93   9.238   13   Bridgewater (Va.)   0.714 (15-6)   16-7
94   9.182   20   Wheaton (Mass.)   0.682 (15-7)   16-7
95   9.182   21   Endicott   0.682 (15-7)   15-7
96   9.167   14   Greensboro   0.778 (14-4)   16-6
97   9.158   15   Piedmont   0.737 (14-5)   15-6
98   9.095   8   King's   0.667 (14-7)   16-7
99   9.053   15   Lawrence   0.632 (12-7)   13-8
100   9.050   15   Wittenberg   0.600 (12-8)   13-9
101   9.045   16   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.727 (16-6)   16-7
102   9.045   16   Allegheny   0.682 (15-7)   16-7
103   8.957   9   Carleton   0.696 (16-7)   16-7
104   8.952   11   Ithaca   0.619 (13-8)   13-9
105   8.952   9   Moravian   0.571 (12-9)   13-10
106   8.952   16   St. Norbert   0.667 (14-7)   14-7
107   8.947   22   Wesleyan   0.579 (11-8)   14-8
108   8.947   17   Washington and Jefferson   0.632 (12-7)   15-7
109   8.905   12   Union   0.571 (12-9)   12-10
110   8.905   10   Juniata   0.619 (13-8)   14-9
111   8.900   10   Concordia-Moorhead   0.650 (13-7)   15-8
112   8.875   11   Minnesota-Morris   0.875 (7-1)   12-10
113   8.867   12   Redlands   0.667 (10-5)   13-7
114   8.850   17   Shenandoah   0.600 (12-8)   13-8
115   8.842   9   Rutgers-Newark   0.737 (14-5)   15-7
116   8.826   11   Cabrini   0.696 (16-7)   16-7
117   8.810   17   Aurora   0.667 (14-7)   14-8
118   8.800   13   William Smith   0.550 (11-9)   11-10
119   8.778   10   Villa Julie   0.706 (12-5)   13-7
120   8.762   12   DeSales   0.667 (14-7)   16-7
121   8.750   13   Loras   0.650 (13-7)   14-9
122   8.737   18   Christopher Newport   0.684 (13-6)   15-7
123   8.727   23   Rhode Island College   0.636 (14-8)   14-9
124   8.727   11   Lehman   0.636 (14-8)   16-9
125   8.727   18   Benedictine   0.682 (15-7)   16-7
126   8.722   14   Keuka   0.667 (12-6)   13-7
127   8.706   13   Johns Hopkins   0.706 (12-5)   13-8
128   8.706   14   Linfield   0.588 (10-7)   13-9
129   8.700   19   UW-River Falls   0.550 (11-9)   14-10
130   8.684   12   Catholic   0.579 (11-8)   14-9
131   8.652   13   Richard Stockton   0.522 (12-11)   12-11
132   8.650   15   New Paltz State   0.700 (14-6)   14-8
133   8.619   24   Emerson   0.619 (13-8)   13-9
134   8.619   14   Montclair State   0.571 (12-9)   13-9
135   8.611   19   Texas-Tyler   0.667 (12-6)   15-8
136   8.611   15   Buena Vista   0.667 (12-6)   15-8
137   8.591   20   Edgewood   0.591 (13-9)   13-10
138   8.588   16   Whitman   0.529 (9-8)   11-12
139   8.565   14   Ursinus   0.609 (14-9)   14-9
140   8.556   17   Whitworth   0.556 (10-8)   13-10
141   8.550   15   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.700 (14-6)   15-6
142   8.545   21   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.545 (12-10)   13-10
143   8.533   18   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.533 (8-7)   12-9
144   8.529   19   Lewis and Clark   0.647 (11-6)   15-8
145   8.500   16   Utica   0.682 (15-7)   16-7
146   8.500   15   Susquehanna   0.500 (10-10)   13-10
147   8.478   16   John Jay   0.652 (15-8)   17-8
148   8.476   25   Castleton State   0.667 (14-7)   15-7
149   8.455   26   Amherst   0.545 (12-10)   12-12
150   8.444   18   Anderson   0.611 (11-7)   15-8
151   8.409   27   Western Connecticut   0.545 (12-10)   13-10
152   8.409   17   Geneseo State   0.545 (12-10)   13-10
153   8.400   19   Otterbein   0.600 (12-8)   14-9
154   8.375   17   New Jersey   0.458 (11-13)   11-13
155   8.368   16   Elizabethtown   0.579 (11-8)   13-9
156   8.364   28   Salem State   0.545 (12-10)   12-10
157   8.357   22   Principia   0.714 (10-4)   16-5
158   8.350   18   Oneonta State   0.550 (11-9)   13-10
159   8.318   29   Western New England   0.545 (12-10)   12-10
160   8.316   20   Rhodes   0.632 (12-7)   14-8
161   8.304   30   Springfield   0.522 (12-11)   12-11
162   8.300   21   Austin   0.600 (12-8)   12-8
163   8.286   18   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.476 (10-11)   10-11
164   8.278   20   Olivet   0.611 (11-7)   11-10
165   8.261   17   Alvernia   0.609 (14-9)   14-9
166   8.227   23   Lakeland   0.591 (13-9)   13-9
167   8.222   24   UW-La Crosse   0.500 (9-9)   13-10
168   8.211   21   Albion   0.579 (11-8)   13-9
169   8.200   22   Kenyon   0.550 (11-9)   12-11
170   8.200   20   Pacific Lutheran   0.533 (8-7)   12-10
171   8.190   31   Worcester State   0.524 (11-10)   13-10
172   8.150   32   Bridgewater State   0.550 (11-9)   12-9
173   8.136   33   Clark   0.545 (12-10)   12-10
174   8.136   34   Husson   0.500 (11-11)   11-11
175   8.130   18   Neumann   0.696 (16-7)   16-7
176   8.111   25   Fontbonne   0.611 (11-7)   12-10
177   8.100   35   Trinity (Conn.)   0.550 (11-9)   12-11
178   8.100   19   Immaculata   0.650 (13-7)   13-9
179   8.095   19   Rochester Tech   0.571 (12-9)   13-10
180   8.091   21   St. Catherine's   0.591 (13-9)   14-9
181   8.087   22   Mississippi College   0.652 (15-8)   15-8
182   8.045   36   Nichols   0.591 (13-9)   13-9
183   8.000   19   Salisbury   0.579 (11-8)   13-10
184   8.000   23   Emory   0.444 (8-10)   8-13
185   8.000   23   Franklin   0.611 (11-7)   13-9
186   8.000   24   St. Mary's (Ind.)   0.526 (10-9)   10-10
187   8.000   22   St. Thomas   0.565 (13-10)   13-10
188   7.955   25   Mount Union   0.500 (11-11)   11-12
189   7.952   37   Babson   0.524 (11-10)   11-11
190   7.952   20   Frostburg State   0.619 (13-8)   15-8
191   7.947   21   Mt. St. Vincent   0.579 (11-8)   13-8
192   7.913   23   Wartburg   0.522 (12-11)   13-12
193   7.909   20   St. John Fisher   0.500 (11-11)   12-11
194   7.900   26   Marian   0.550 (11-9)   14-9
195   7.895   27   North Park   0.579 (11-8)   14-8
196   7.895   26   Defiance   0.526 (10-9)   13-10
197   7.889   28   Greenville   0.605 (11-7)   15-7
198   7.870   38   Middlebury   0.478 (11-12)   12-12
199   7.857   24   Southwestern   0.524 (11-10)   12-10
200   7.833   25   Washington and Lee   0.500 (9-9)   12-10

Pool B update--

The conference tourneys begin after this week, and the leaders are pulling away.  There are 4 Pool B bids.

I have sorted the teams by in-region record.

Team/Conference/ Overall/ In-Region/In-region %age/ QOWI/In-region games remaining

1)  Concordia WI/ NATHC/ 19-3/ 16-2/ .889/ 10.389/2 games + tourney
2)  Thomas More/ PresAC/ 18-4/ 15-4/ .789/ 9.684/2 games + tourney
3)  Westminster/ PresAC/ 18-5/ 14-5/ .737/ 9.526 /2 games + tourney
4)  Chapman/  Ind/ 18-5/ 13-5/ .722/ 10.167/2 games + D-III Independents Tourney

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5t)  Benedictine/ NATHC/ 16-7/ 15-7/ .682/ 8.727 /2 games + tourney
5t)  Aurora/ NATHC/ 14-8/ 14-7/.667/.8.810 /2 games + tourney

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also  Lincoln/ Ind/ 15-8/ 11-5/ .688/< 8.000 /2 games (No Tourney confirmed)

Remaining Schedules of NAthCon teams on the outside:

Aurora:  at Alverno, vs. Maranatha, at Rockford.

Benedictine: at Maranatha, at Edgewood.

On paper, IMHO, Benedictine's got the tougher of the 2 schedules.  :-X :-\ :-X :-\

Concordia-WI won again tonight-with one regular season NAthCon game left, the Falcons will finish the regular season with no worse than 2 in-conference regular season losses and the #1 seed for the conference tournament.  :) ;) :D :) ;) :D

WLCALUM83:

The Lincoln women's team have made a dramatic turnaround from the 2006 record of 8-19 to a school record 16 wins with one game remaining for the 2007 season.  The Lady Lions final game at Eastern (3-21) should give Lincoln a 17 win season.  Two of the eight losses were to Division two schools.

Do you think the Lady Lions have any chance of "sneaking" in a NCAA berth?

Quote from: njlincolnlion on February 16, 2007, 10:31:38 AM
WLCALUM83:

The Lincoln women's team have made a dramatic turnaround from the 2006 record of 8-19 to a school record 16 wins with one game remaining for the 2007 season.  The Lady Lions final game at Eastern (3-21) should give Lincoln a 17 win season.  Two of the eight losses were to Division two schools.

Do you think the Lady Lions have any chance of "sneaking" in a NCAA berth?

No, because I don't even find Lincoln's QOWI in the first 200.

Did I miss it?

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2007, 01:36:26 PM

Quote from: njlincolnlion on February 16, 2007, 10:31:38 AM
WLCALUM83:

The Lincoln women's team have made a dramatic turnaround from the 2006 record of 8-19 to a school record 16 wins with one game remaining for the 2007 season.  The Lady Lions final game at Eastern (3-21) should give Lincoln a 17 win season.  Two of the eight losses were to Division two schools.

Do you think the Lady Lions have any chance of "sneaking" in a NCAA berth?

No, because I don't even find Lincoln's QOWI in the first 200.

Did I miss it?

njlincolnlion:

Ralph is in a position in which he can justify following things on a more nation-wide basis than I can. I keep up on NAthCon and American Southwest Conference women's action, mostly.

Thanks for asking me. No offense intended, but I'm going to agree with Ralph for the most part. Whether Lincoln qualifies or not, the turnaround that your squad had is nothing to sneeze at. That's the half-full side of the glass you'll always be able to look at when you look back on this season. :) ;) :D :) ;) :D

njlincoln, sorry.  I jumpedinto your conversation asi was scanning the morning'sactivity.

I am beginning to think that you stand a better chance of the men getting into the field.

Ralph:

I'll settle for the Men in the postseason in a heartbeat  ;D .  It is great to see the womens program progress.  The key is for the women to maintain the momentum like the men have.

Concordia-WI women end up with only 1 regular season NAthCon in-conference loss. Does that squad necessarily have to win both of its' potential conference tournament games to get into Nationals?

Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 18, 2007, 09:06:02 PM
Concordia-WI women end up with only 1 regular season NAthCon in-conference loss. Does that squad necessarily have to win both of its' potential conference tournament games to get into Nationals?

Maybe not, but every loss drops the QOWI by about 0.4 points in the index (8 QOWI divided by ~ 20 games = 0.4)

By now, you are fighting for seeding!

Top 200 QOWI through Sunday:

Rank   Points   Team
1   12.304   Bowdoin
2   11.958   Messiah
3   11.609   Emmanuel
4   11.500   Southern Maine
5   11.333   Scranton
6   11.208   New York University
7   11.167   Mary Washington
8   11.167   DePauw
9   11.160   Fitchburg State
10   11.143   Williams
11   11.125   Rochester
12   11.000   Cortland State
13   11.000   UW-Stout
14   10.917   Howard Payne
15   10.882   Calvin
16   10.840   Gwynedd-Mercy
17   10.833   Luther
18   10.818   St. Lawrence
19   10.760   McDaniel
20   10.727   Brandeis
21   10.708   Kean
22   10.652   Carroll
23   10.650   Lake Forest
24   10.636   UW-Whitewater
25   10.600   Simpson
26   10.565   Norwich
27   10.560   Mount St. Mary
28   10.522   Wilmington
29   10.500   Oglethorpe
30   10.478   Maine Maritime
31   10.458   McMurry
32   10.429   Illinois Wesleyan
33   10.421   Puget Sound
34   10.400   Washington U.
35   10.391   Randolph-Macon
36   10.391   William Paterson
37   10.364   Denison
38   10.360   Maine-Farmington
39   10.304   Keene State
40   10.250   Concordia (Wis.)
41   10.227   Manchester
42   10.217   St. Benedict
43   10.200   Gustavus Adolphus
44   10.174   Hardin-Simmons
45   10.150   Hope
46   10.136   Chicago
47   10.059   George Fox
48   10.050   Maryville (Tenn.)
49   10.045   Transylvania
50   10.000   East Texas Baptist
51   10.000   Chapman
52   10.000   Tufts
53   9.958   Dickinson
54   9.958   Colby-Sawyer
55   9.957   Ferrum
56   9.957   Brockport State
57   9.955   Virginia Wesleyan
58   9.950   UW-Eau Claire
59   9.905   Medaille
60   9.900   Millikin
61   9.880   Albright
62   9.864   Trinity (Texas)
63   9.833   Capital
64   9.833   Oswego State
65   9.818   Salve Regina
66   9.783   UW-Stevens Point
67   9.737   Maryville (Mo.)
68   9.737   Wheaton (Ill.)
69   9.619   Rose-Hulman
70   9.619   Thomas More
71   9.619   Westminster (Pa.)
72   9.609   Eastern Connecticut
73   9.609   Bates
74   9.583   Muhlenberg
75   9.542   Baldwin-Wallace
76   9.542   Worcester Polytech
77   9.522   Baruch
78   9.520   Stevens
79   9.500   Minnesota-Morris
80   9.476   Hendrix
81   9.458   King's
82   9.435   Suffolk
83   9.429   Piedmont
84   9.391   Mount Holyoke
85   9.364   Eastern Mennonite
86   9.360   York (Pa.)
87   9.348   Shenandoah
88   9.318   RPI
89   9.292   Penn State-Behrend
90   9.280   Carleton
91   9.263   Elmira
92   9.240   Endicott
93   9.190   Hamilton
94   9.190   Mass-Boston
95   9.174   Bridgewater (Va.)
96   9.125   Moravian
97   9.087   Allegheny
98   9.087   St. Norbert
99   9.087   William Smith
100   9.080   Cabrini
101   9.056   La Verne
102   9.048   Wesleyan
103   9.043   Lehman
104   9.043   Ohio Northern
105   9.000   SUNY-Farmingdale
106   9.000   Christopher Newport
107   9.000   Carthage
108   9.000   Wittenberg
109   8.960   Marymount
110   8.958   Benedictine
111   8.958   Mary Hardin-Baylor
112   8.958   Wheaton (Mass.)
113   8.957   Montclair State
114   8.952   Greensboro
115   8.941   Redlands
116   8.917   Utica
117   8.913   Juniata
118   8.900   Keuka
119   8.870   Austin
120   8.864   Concordia-Moorhead
121   8.864   Loras
122   8.850   Texas-Tyler
123   8.840   Ursinus
124   8.833   Rhode Island College
125   8.810   Washington and Jefferson
126   8.800   Salem State
127   8.783   Geneseo State
128   8.750   Buena Vista
129   8.750   Ithaca
130   8.737   Lewis and Clark
131   8.727   Susquehanna
132   8.714   Lawrence
133   8.708   Emerson
134   8.682   Villa Julie
135   8.667   Rhodes
136   8.652   Union
137   8.650   Johns Hopkins
138   8.640   St. Thomas
139   8.632   Linfield
140   8.609   Rochester Tech
141   8.600   Springfield
142   8.565   New Paltz State
143   8.550   Anderson
144   8.545   Rutgers-Newark
145   8.545   UW-River Falls
146   8.542   Castleton State
147   8.526   Whitman
148   8.522   DeSales
149   8.500   John Jay
150   8.500   SUNY-Purchase
151   8.480   Alvernia
152   8.480   Western New England
153   8.478   Bridgewater State
154   8.458   Wisconsin Lutheran
155   8.435   St. Mary's (Md.)
156   8.400   Whitworth
157   8.381   Catholic
158   8.375   Edgewood
159   8.364   Oneonta State
160   8.360   Nichols
161   8.360   Gettysburg
162   8.360   Richard Stockton
163   8.348   Amherst
164   8.333   Principia
165   8.333   Roanoke
166   8.292   Aurora
167   8.280   Mississippi College
168   8.240   Lakeland
169   8.208   Western Connecticut
170   8.200   Neumann
171   8.200   New Jersey
172   8.190   Washington and Lee
173   8.176   Pacific Lutheran
174   8.174   Mount Union
175   8.158   Fontbonne
176   8.158   Greenville
177   8.143   Mt. St. Vincent
178   8.143   Emory
179   8.136   Immaculata
180   8.125   St. Catherine's
181   8.118   Agnes Scott
182   8.100   Salisbury
183   8.095   Albion
184   8.095   UW-La Crosse
185   8.091   Otterbein
186   8.087   Frostburg State
187   8.063   Occidental
188   8.048   North Park
189   8.048   Elizabethtown
190   8.048   St. Mary's (Ind.)
191   8.040   Husson
192   8.000   Kenyon
193   8.000   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
194   8.000   Defiance
195   7.957   Wooster
196   7.957   Drew
197   7.952   Trinity (Conn.)
198   7.920   Pitt-Greensburg
199   7.917   St. John Fisher
200   7.917   Clark

Through Tuesday:

1   12.261   1   Bowdoin   0.957 (22-1)   24-1
2   11.958   1   Messiah   0.958 (23-1)   23-2
3   11.458   2   Emmanuel   0.958 (23-1)   25-1
4   11.333   2   Scranton   0.917 (22-2)   23-2
5   11.208   1   New York University   0.917 (22-2)   22-2
6   11.200   3   Fitchburg State   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
7   11.200   4   Southern Maine   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
8   11.125   2   Rochester   0.792 (19-5)   19-5
9   11.111   1   DePauw   0.833 (15-3)   22-3
10   10.960   1   Mary Washington   0.920 (23-2)   24-2
11   10.958   3   Cortland State   0.917 (22-2)   23-2
12   10.952   5   Williams   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
13   10.875   1   UW-Stout   0.833 (20-4)   21-5
14   10.875   2   Kean   0.875 (21-3)   22-3
15   10.840   3   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
16   10.833   1   Luther   0.889 (16-2)   20-4
17   10.760   4   McDaniel   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
18   10.727   6   Brandeis   0.818 (18-4)   19-4
19   10.722   2   Calvin   1.000 (18-0)   24-1
20   10.708   1   Howard Payne   0.958 (23-1)   24-1
21   10.708   7   Maine Maritime   0.917 (22-2)   24-2
22   10.652   2   Carroll   0.870 (20-3)   20-3
23   10.650   3   Lake Forest   0.950 (19-1)   21-2
24   10.636   4   St. Lawrence   0.955 (21-1)   23-2
25   10.571   2   Simpson   0.810 (17-4)   21-5
26   10.538   3   Mount St. Mary   0.846 (22-4)   22-4
27   10.423   8   Maine-Farmington   0.885 (23-3)   23-3
28   10.421   3   Puget Sound   0.842 (16-3)   20-5
29   10.417   3   Wilmington   0.833 (20-4)   22-4
30   10.417   9   Norwich   0.917 (22-2)   23-2
31   10.400   4   Washington U.   0.800 (16-4)   19-5
32   10.391   4   William Paterson   0.870 (20-3)   21-4
33   10.348   4   Denison   0.870 (20-3)   22-4
34   10.318   2   Oglethorpe   0.818 (18-4)   19-6
35   10.304   3   Randolph-Macon   0.870 (20-3)   21-4
36   10.292   4   McMurry   0.875 (21-3)   22-3
37   10.261   5   UW-Whitewater   0.739 (17-6)   19-7
38   10.250   6   Concordia (Wis.)   0.900 (18-2)   21-3
39   10.227   5   Manchester   0.818 (18-4)   19-6
40   10.217   4   St. Benedict   0.870 (20-3)   20-5
41   10.200   5   Gustavus Adolphus   0.840 (21-4)   21-4
42   10.136   7   Chicago   0.727 (16-6)   18-6
43   10.087   10   Tufts   0.696 (16-7)   17-7
44   10.059   6   George Fox   0.750 (13-4)   17-6
45   10.048   6   Hope   0.857 (18-3)   22-3
46   10.045   7   Transylvania   0.773 (17-5)   18-7
47   10.042   11   Keene State   0.792 (19-5)   20-5
48   10.000   5   Dickinson   0.833 (20-4)   21-4
49   10.000   8   Illinois Wesleyan   0.864 (19-3)   21-4
50   9.960   12   Colby-Sawyer   0.840 (21-4)   21-4
51   9.958   5   Brockport State   0.750 (18-6)   20-6
52   9.957   5   Hardin-Simmons   0.826 (19-4)   20-4
53   9.955   6   Virginia Wesleyan   0.773 (17-5)   19-6
54   9.952   9   UW-Eau Claire   0.714 (15-6)   18-8
55   9.950   7   Chapman   0.750 (15-5)   20-5
56   9.920   8   Capital   0.760 (19-6)   19-6
57   9.913   13   Salve Regina   0.826 (19-4)   20-6
58   9.905   6   Medaille   0.905 (19-2)   21-4
59   9.900   7   East Texas Baptist   0.850 (17-3)   21-4
60   9.880   6   Albright   0.680 (17-8)   17-8
61   9.857   10   Millikin   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
62   9.850   11   Maryville (Mo.)   0.850 (17-3)   20-5
63   9.840   7   Oswego State   0.720 (18-7)   18-7
64   9.810   9   Thomas More   0.810 (17-4)   20-4
65   9.727   10   Westminster (Pa.)   0.773 (17-5)   21-5
66   9.667   8   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.857 (18-3)   22-4
67   9.667   9   Ferrum   0.792 (19-5)   20-6
68   9.667   14   Eastern Connecticut   0.667 (16-8)   16-10
69   9.619   11   Rose-Hulman   0.810 (17-4)   21-4
70   9.609   15   Bates   0.609 (14-9)   15-9
71   9.591   10   Trinity (Texas)   0.682 (15-7)   17-7
72   9.583   7   Muhlenberg   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
73   9.542   12   UW-Stevens Point   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
74   9.538   5   Stevens   0.808 (21-5)   21-5
75   9.458   8   King's   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
76   9.458   16   Worcester Polytech   0.750 (18-6)   18-6
77   9.450   13   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.700 (14-6)   17-7
78   9.429   11   Hendrix   0.762 (16-5)   19-6
79   9.417   6   Baruch   0.750 (18-6)   20-7
80   9.417   17   Suffolk   0.750 (18-6)   18-8
81   9.391   18   Mount Holyoke   0.696 (16-7)   18-7
82   9.385   8   Carleton   0.731 (19-7)   19-7
83   9.385   7   York (Pa.)   0.692 (18-8)   18-8
84   9.364   12   Eastern Mennonite   0.727 (16-6)   17-7
85   9.320   12   Baldwin-Wallace   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
86   9.292   13   Penn State-Behrend   0.833 (20-4)   20-4
87   9.286   14   Carthage   0.619 (13-8)   15-10
88   9.269   19   Endicott   0.692 (18-8)   18-8
89   9.263   8   Elmira   0.737 (14-5)   20-5
90   9.250   14   Ohio Northern   0.667 (16-8)   17-9
91   9.208   15   Allegheny   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
92   9.208   9   Moravian   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
93   9.208   13   Shenandoah   0.667 (16-8)   17-8
94   9.190   9   Hamilton   0.667 (14-7)   17-7
95   9.174   14   Bridgewater (Va.)   0.696 (16-7)   17-8
96   9.136   10   RPI   0.636 (14-8)   15-10
97   9.105   9   La Verne   0.737 (14-5)   18-6
98   9.100   10   Minnesota-Morris   0.900 (9-1)   14-11
99   9.087   15   St. Norbert   0.696 (16-7)   16-7
100   9.080   10   Cabrini   0.720 (18-7)   18-7
101   9.080   16   Benedictine   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
102   9.048   15   Piedmont   0.714 (15-6)   16-7
103   9.045   16   Washington and Jefferson   0.682 (15-7)   19-7
104   9.043   8   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.739 (17-6)   18-6
105   9.042   9   Lehman   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
106   9.000   11   Concordia-Moorhead   0.696 (16-7)   18-8
107   9.000   12   Redlands   0.667 (12-6)   15-8
108   8.962   10   Marymount   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
109   8.958   16   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.667 (16-8)   16-9
110   8.958   20   Wheaton (Mass.)   0.625 (15-9)   16-9
111   8.957   17   Wittenberg   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
112   8.952   11   Keuka   0.700 (14-6)   16-7
113   8.952   21   Wesleyan   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
114   8.920   11   Ursinus   0.640 (16-9)   16-9
115   8.913   12   Juniata   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
116   8.913   12   William Smith   0.609 (14-9)   14-10
117   8.905   13   Buena Vista   0.667 (14-7)   17-9
118   8.885   22   Salem State   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
119   8.864   14   Loras   0.682 (15-7)   16-9
120   8.833   11   Montclair State   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
121   8.833   13   Utica   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
122   8.783   14   Geneseo State   0.565 (13-10)   14-11
123   8.750   17   Texas-Tyler   0.700 (14-6)   17-8
124   8.750   15   Ithaca   0.583 (14-10)   14-11
125   8.739   17   UW-River Falls   0.609 (14-9)   16-10
126   8.739   12   Rutgers-Newark   0.696 (16-7)   16-9
127   8.737   15   Lewis and Clark   0.632 (12-7)   16-9
128   8.727   13   Susquehanna   0.545 (12-10)   15-10
129   8.727   18   Christopher Newport   0.682 (15-7)   18-8
130   8.692   14   Alvernia   0.615 (16-10)   16-10
131   8.682   19   Greensboro   0.727 (16-6)   18-8
132   8.680   23   Castleton State   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
133   8.680   24   Springfield   0.560 (14-11)   14-11
134   8.652   20   Austin   0.609 (14-9)   14-9
135   8.650   15   Johns Hopkins   0.700 (14-6)   14-9
136   8.640   25   Rhode Island College   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
137   8.636   26   Mass-Boston   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
138   8.632   16   Linfield   0.579 (11-8)   14-10
139   8.625   18   Aurora   0.708 (17-7)   17-8
140   8.619   19   Lawrence   0.571 (12-9)   13-10
141   8.609   16   DeSales   0.609 (14-9)   16-9
142   8.609   13   Villa Julie   0.696 (16-7)   18-8
143   8.609   16   Rochester Tech   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
144   8.577   17   St. Thomas   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
145   8.565   17   New Paltz State   0.696 (16-7)   16-9
146   8.550   18   Anderson   0.600 (12-8)   16-9
147   8.538   27   Western New England   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
148   8.520   20   Edgewood   0.600 (15-10)   15-11
149   8.520   28   Emerson   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
150   8.478   18   Union   0.565 (13-10)   13-11
151   8.476   21   Rhodes   0.619 (13-8)   15-9
152   8.462   29   Nichols   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
153   8.458   19   Mount Union   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
154   8.440   17   Gettysburg   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
155   8.400   18   Whitworth   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
156   8.385   18   Neumann   0.692 (18-8)   18-8
157   8.385   14   New Jersey   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
158   8.381   15   Salisbury   0.619 (13-8)   15-10
159   8.368   19   Whitman   0.526 (10-9)   12-13
160   8.364   20   Albion   0.591 (13-9)   15-10
161   8.360   16   John Jay   0.640 (16-9)   18-9
162   8.348   30   Bridgewater State   0.565 (13-10)   14-10
163   8.346   17   Richard Stockton   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
164   8.333   22   Roanoke   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
165   8.333   18   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
166   8.318   19   Catholic   0.545 (12-10)   15-11
167   8.304   19   Oneonta State   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
168   8.280   21   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
169   8.261   31   Amherst   0.522 (12-11)   12-13
170   8.240   32   Western Connecticut   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
171   8.231   33   Husson   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
172   8.227   20   Mt. St. Vincent   0.591 (13-9)   15-9
173   8.192   22   Lakeland   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
174   8.190   23   Washington and Lee   0.571 (12-9)   15-10
175   8.176   20   Pacific Lutheran   0.529 (9-8)   13-11
176   8.174   21   Kenyon   0.565 (13-10)   14-12
177   8.160   24   Mississippi College   0.640 (16-9)   16-9
178   8.150   23   Greenville   0.643 (13-7)   17-7
179   8.143   25   Emory   0.429 (9-12)   9-15
180   8.136   22   St. Mary's (Ind.)   0.545 (12-10)   12-11
181   8.100   24   Fontbonne   0.600 (12-8)   13-12
182   8.080   21   St. Catherine's   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
183   8.048   19   Elizabethtown   0.524 (11-10)   13-11
184   8.048   25   North Park   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
185   8.048   34   Trinity (Conn.)   0.524 (11-10)   12-12
186   8.045   26   UW-La Crosse   0.455 (10-12)   13-13
187   8.000   23   Defiance   0.524 (11-10)   14-11
188   8.000   20   Immaculata   0.609 (14-9)   14-11
189   8.000   27   Principia   0.688 (11-5)   18-6
190   8.000   22   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.556 (10-8)   14-10
191   8.000   35   Worcester State   0.500 (12-12)   14-12
192   7.957   24   Otterbein   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
193   7.957   21   Drew   0.522 (12-11)   13-12
194   7.941   23   Occidental   0.588 (10-7)   15-9
195   7.917   21   Frostburg State   0.625 (15-9)   17-9
196   7.917   20   St. John Fisher   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
197   7.917   36   Clark   0.500 (12-12)   12-12
198   7.889   26   Agnes Scott   0.556 (10-8)   16-8
199   7.875   25   Wooster   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
200   7.864   26   Olivet   0.545 (12-10)   12-12

Pat - I know the QOWI does not have anything to do with the top 25 but for the Regional rankings is that what they go by, or is there something else also? The reason I ask is because on the Top 200 QOWI list you put out on Feb. 21 Gwynedd Mercy is 15th with a QOWI of 10.840 and ranked 3rd in the Mid-Atlantic and McDaniel is 17th with a QOWI of 10.760 and ranked 4th in the Mid-Atlantic. But under the last Reginal rankings that was put out on Feb. 18 it was the other way around with McDaniel ranked 3rd in the Mid-Atlantic and GMC 4th. Thanks for your help.

Quote from: TC HOOPS on February 22, 2007, 06:37:46 PM
Pat - I know the QOWI does not have anything to do with the top 25 but for the Regional rankings is that what they go by, or is there something else also? The reason I ask is because on the Top 200 QOWI list you put out on Feb. 21 Gwynedd Mercy is 15th with a QOWI of 10.840 and ranked 3rd in the Mid-Atlantic and McDaniel is 17th with a QOWI of 10.760 and ranked 4th in the Mid-Atlantic. But under the last Reginal rankings that was put out on Feb. 18 it was the other way around with McDaniel ranked 3rd in the Mid-Atlantic and GMC 4th. Thanks for your help.

Pat's a little busy; perhaps this will help.

Quote from: Division 3 Women's Basketball Championship Handbook, pp 16fSelection Criteria
The Division III Championship Committee has established the following selection criteria for all Division III team sports.
• After the determination of the automatic (Pool A berths), the committee will determine the Pool B selections followed by the Pool C selections.
• The sports committee will select teams in Pools B and C based on the criteria below. The criteria of two or more teams will be compared to determine the higher ranked team.
An attempt will be made to determine the ranking of two or more teams after consideration of the primary criteria. The PRIMARY CRITERIA emphasize regional competition and all the criteria listed will be evaluated (not listed in preferential order.)
If the evaluation of the primary criteria does not result in a decision, the SECONDARY CRITERIA will be used. All the criteria listed will be evaluated (not listed in preferential order.) The secondary criteria introduce results against out-of-region Division III and all other opponents including those contests versus opponents from other classifications (i.e., provisionals, NAIA, NCAA Division I and II.)

Primary Criteria. For ranking and selections (all contests leading up to NCAA championships):
• Win-loss percentage against regional opponents
• Quality-of-Wins-Index (only contests versus regional competition)
• In-region head-to-head competition.
• In-region results vs. common regional opponents.
• In-region results vs. regionally ranked teams
> Ranked opponents are defined as those teams ranked at the time of the ranking/selection process only.
> Conference postseason contest(s) is included.
> Contest versus provisional members in their third and fourth years shall count in the primary criteria. Provisional members shall remain ineligible for rankings and selection.

Secondary Criteria. For ranking and selection:
• Out-of-region head-to-head competition.
• Overall Division III won-loss percentage.
• Results versus common non-Division III opponents.
• Results versus Division III teams ranked in other regions.
• Overall win-loss percentage.
• Results versus common out-of-region opponents.
• Overall Division III Quality of Wins.

[slightly reformatted for clarity, and with the explanation of QoWI removed]

David thanks for that info.

Concordia-WI women defeat Edgewood, 70-67, to advance to NAthCon Tournament Final.

Through Thursday:

Rank   QOWI   Rk in-reg   Team   Reg. W-L   Overall
1   12.261   1   Bowdoin   0.957 (22-1)   24-1
2   11.800   1   Messiah   0.960 (24-1)   24-2
3   11.375   2   Emmanuel   0.958 (23-1)   25-1
4   11.360   2   Scranton   0.920 (23-2)   24-2
5   11.208   1   New York University   0.917 (22-2)   22-2
6   11.200   3   Fitchburg State   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
7   11.125   2   Rochester   0.792 (19-5)   19-5
8   11.120   4   Southern Maine   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
9   11.111   1   DePauw   0.833 (15-3)   22-3
10   10.958   3   Cortland State   0.917 (22-2)   23-2
11   10.920   1   UW-Stout   0.840 (21-4)   22-5
12   10.895   1   Luther   0.895 (17-2)   21-4
13   10.857   5   Williams   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
14   10.846   1   Mary Washington   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
15   10.789   2   Calvin   1.000 (19-0)   25-1
16   10.708   1   Howard Payne   0.958 (23-1)   24-1
17   10.708   6   Maine Maritime   0.917 (22-2)   24-2
18   10.654   3   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
19   10.652   2   Carroll   0.870 (20-3)   20-3
20   10.650   3   Lake Forest   0.950 (19-1)   21-2
21   10.636   4   St. Lawrence   0.955 (21-1)   23-2
22   10.636   7   Brandeis   0.818 (18-4)   19-4
23   10.600   4   McDaniel   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
24   10.520   2   Kean   0.880 (22-3)   23-3
25   10.519   3   Mount St. Mary   0.852 (23-4)   23-4
26   10.500   2   Puget Sound   0.850 (17-3)   21-5
27   10.480   3   Wilmington   0.840 (21-4)   23-4
28   10.423   8   Maine-Farmington   0.885 (23-3)   23-3
29   10.417   9   Norwich   0.917 (22-2)   23-2
30   10.409   3   Simpson   0.773 (17-5)   21-6
31   10.400   4   Washington U.   0.800 (16-4)   19-5
32   10.348   4   Denison   0.870 (20-3)   22-4
33   10.333   5   Concordia (Wis.)   0.905 (19-2)   22-3
34   10.318   2   Oglethorpe   0.818 (18-4)   19-6
35   10.304   3   Randolph-Macon   0.870 (20-3)   21-4
36   10.292   4   McMurry   0.875 (21-3)   22-3
37   10.261   6   UW-Whitewater   0.739 (17-6)   19-7
38   10.250   4   Chapman   0.750 (15-5)   20-5
39   10.227   5   Manchester   0.818 (18-4)   19-6
40   10.208   5   St. Benedict   0.875 (21-3)   21-5
41   10.208   4   William Paterson   0.875 (21-3)   22-4
42   10.136   7   Chicago   0.727 (16-6)   18-6
43   10.136   6   Hope   0.864 (19-3)   23-3
44   10.115   6   Gustavus Adolphus   0.846 (22-4)   22-4
45   10.059   7   George Fox   0.750 (13-4)   17-6
46   10.045   7   Transylvania   0.773 (17-5)   18-7
47   10.042   10   Keene State   0.792 (19-5)   20-5
48   10.000   8   Illinois Wesleyan   0.864 (19-3)   21-4
49   10.000   11   Tufts   0.696 (16-7)   17-7
50   10.000   8   Capital   0.769 (20-6)   20-6
51   9.958   12   Salve Regina   0.833 (20-4)   21-6
52   9.957   5   Hardin-Simmons   0.826 (19-4)   20-4
53   9.955   6   Virginia Wesleyan   0.773 (17-5)   19-6
54   9.952   9   Maryville (Mo.)   0.857 (18-3)   21-5
55   9.923   13   Colby-Sawyer   0.846 (22-4)   22-4
56   9.905   5   Medaille   0.905 (19-2)   21-4
57   9.900   7   East Texas Baptist   0.850 (17-3)   21-4
58   9.875   6   Brockport State   0.750 (18-6)   20-6
59   9.857   10   Millikin   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
60   9.840   7   Oswego State   0.720 (18-7)   18-7
61   9.833   5   Dickinson   0.833 (20-4)   21-4
62   9.826   11   UW-Eau Claire   0.727 (16-6)   19-8
63   9.810   9   Thomas More   0.810 (17-4)   20-4
64   9.727   10   Westminster (Pa.)   0.773 (17-5)   21-5
65   9.720   12   UW-Stevens Point   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
66   9.667   8   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.857 (18-3)   22-4
67   9.667   9   Ferrum   0.792 (19-5)   20-6
68   9.654   6   Albright   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
69   9.619   11   Rose-Hulman   0.810 (17-4)   21-4
70   9.609   14   Bates   0.609 (14-9)   15-9
71   9.591   10   Trinity (Texas)   0.682 (15-7)   17-7
72   9.583   7   Muhlenberg   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
73   9.500   15   Eastern Connecticut   0.667 (16-8)   16-10
74   9.480   8   King's   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
75   9.450   13   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.700 (14-6)   17-7
76   9.429   11   Hendrix   0.762 (16-5)   19-6
77   9.417   5   Baruch   0.750 (18-6)   20-7
78   9.407   6   Stevens   0.778 (21-6)   21-6
79   9.364   12   Eastern Mennonite   0.727 (16-6)   17-7
80   9.333   16   Suffolk   0.750 (18-6)   18-8
81   9.320   12   Baldwin-Wallace   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
82   9.308   14   Benedictine   0.731 (19-7)   20-7
83   9.292   7   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
84   9.292   13   Penn State-Behrend   0.833 (20-4)   20-4
85   9.286   15   Carthage   0.619 (13-8)   15-10
86   9.263   8   Elmira   0.737 (14-5)   20-5
87   9.250   8   La Verne   0.750 (15-5)   19-6
88   9.222   8   York (Pa.)   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
89   9.208   14   Allegheny   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
90   9.190   9   Hamilton   0.667 (14-7)   17-7
91   9.185   17   Endicott   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
92   9.174   13   Bridgewater (Va.)   0.696 (16-7)   17-8
93   9.160   18   Worcester Polytech   0.760 (19-6)   19-6
94   9.160   15   Ohio Northern   0.640 (16-9)   17-10
95   9.148   9   Carleton   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
96   9.136   10   RPI   0.636 (14-8)   15-10
97   9.125   14   Shenandoah   0.667 (16-8)   17-8
98   9.120   9   Moravian   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
99   9.100   10   Minnesota-Morris   0.900 (9-1)   14-11
100   9.087   11   Loras   0.696 (16-7)   17-9
101   9.087   16   St. Norbert   0.696 (16-7)   16-7
102   9.083   19   Mount Holyoke   0.708 (17-7)   19-7
103   9.048   15   Piedmont   0.714 (15-6)   16-7
104   9.045   16   Washington and Jefferson   0.682 (15-7)   19-7
105   9.000   12   Redlands   0.684 (13-6)   16-8
106   8.962   10   Cabrini   0.731 (19-7)   19-7
107   8.958   16   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.667 (16-8)   16-9
108   8.957   17   Wittenberg   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
109   8.952   11   Keuka   0.700 (14-6)   16-7
110   8.917   13   Concordia-Moorhead   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
111   8.913   12   William Smith   0.609 (14-9)   14-10
112   8.885   11   Ursinus   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
113   8.875   9   Lehman   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
114   8.857   20   Wesleyan   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
115   8.852   10   Marymount   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
116   8.840   21   Wheaton (Mass.)   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
117   8.833   13   Utica   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
118   8.818   14   Buena Vista   0.636 (14-8)   17-10
119   8.750   17   Texas-Tyler   0.700 (14-6)   17-8
120   8.750   14   Ithaca   0.583 (14-10)   14-11
121   8.737   15   Lewis and Clark   0.632 (12-7)   16-9
122   8.727   18   Christopher Newport   0.682 (15-7)   18-8
123   8.708   15   Geneseo State   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
124   8.682   19   Greensboro   0.727 (16-6)   18-8
125   8.680   22   Castleton State   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
126   8.667   17   UW-River Falls   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
127   8.654   23   Salem State   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
128   8.652   20   Austin   0.609 (14-9)   14-9
129   8.652   12   Juniata   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
130   8.650   13   Johns Hopkins   0.700 (14-6)   14-9
131   8.640   24   Rhode Island College   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
132   8.636   25   Mass-Boston   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
133   8.625   16   New Paltz State   0.708 (17-7)   17-9
134   8.619   18   Lawrence   0.571 (12-9)   13-10
135   8.609   17   Rochester Tech   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
136   8.583   11   Rutgers-Newark   0.667 (16-8)   16-10
137   8.550   16   Linfield   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
138   8.550   18   Anderson   0.600 (12-8)   16-9
139   8.538   26   Western New England   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
140   8.522   12   Villa Julie   0.696 (16-7)   18-8
141   8.520   19   Aurora   0.680 (17-8)   17-9
142   8.500   13   Montclair State   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
143   8.478   18   Union   0.565 (13-10)   13-11
144   8.478   14   Susquehanna   0.522 (12-11)   15-11
145   8.476   21   Rhodes   0.619 (13-8)   15-9
146   8.462   20   Edgewood   0.577 (15-11)   15-12
147   8.458   15   DeSales   0.583 (14-10)   16-10
148   8.440   27   Emerson   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
149   8.423   17   St. Thomas   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
150   8.400   18   Whitworth   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
151   8.400   19   Mount Union   0.520 (13-12)   14-13
152   8.368   19   Whitman   0.526 (10-9)   12-13
153   8.333   20   Occidental   0.611 (11-7)   16-9
154   8.333   22   Roanoke   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
155   8.333   16   Neumann   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
156   8.333   17   Alvernia   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
157   8.316   21   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.579 (11-8)   15-10
158   8.304   19   Oneonta State   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
159   8.304   20   Albion   0.565 (13-10)   15-11
160   8.294   21   Principia   0.706 (12-5)   19-6
161   8.280   22   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
162   8.280   14   John Jay   0.640 (16-9)   18-9
163   8.261   28   Bridgewater State   0.565 (13-10)   14-10
164   8.259   15   New Jersey   0.481 (13-14)   13-14
165   8.259   29   Nichols   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
166   8.240   30   Western Connecticut   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
167   8.231   31   Husson   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
168   8.231   18   Gettysburg   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
169   8.192   23   Lakeland   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
170   8.190   23   Washington and Lee   0.571 (12-9)   15-10
171   8.176   22   Pacific Lutheran   0.529 (9-8)   13-11
172   8.174   16   Mt. St. Vincent   0.565 (13-10)   15-10
173   8.174   32   Amherst   0.522 (12-11)   12-13
174   8.174   21   Kenyon   0.565 (13-10)   14-12
175   8.160   24   Mississippi College   0.640 (16-9)   16-9
176   8.143   25   Emory   0.429 (9-12)   9-15
177   8.115   33   Springfield   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
178   8.095   24   Greenville   0.614 (13-8)   17-8
179   8.087   22   St. Mary's (Ind.)   0.522 (12-11)   12-12
180   8.048   25   North Park   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
181   8.048   26   Fontbonne   0.571 (12-9)   13-13
182   8.045   27   UW-La Crosse   0.455 (10-12)   13-13
183   8.045   17   Salisbury   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
184   8.045   18   Catholic   0.545 (12-10)   15-11
185   8.038   19   Richard Stockton   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
186   8.000   20   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
187   8.000   34   Worcester State   0.500 (12-12)   14-12
188   8.000   23   Defiance   0.524 (11-10)   14-11
189   7.957   24   Otterbein   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
190   7.917   21   Frostburg State   0.625 (15-9)   17-9
191   7.917   20   St. John Fisher   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
192   7.917   19   Drew   0.500 (12-12)   13-13
193   7.889   26   Agnes Scott   0.556 (10-8)   16-8
194   7.875   25   Wooster   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
195   7.864   26   Olivet   0.545 (12-10)   12-12
196   7.857   35   Trinity (Conn.)   0.524 (11-10)   12-12
197   7.850   22   Notre Dame (Md.)   0.700 (14-6)   16-6
198   7.840   23   St. Catherine's   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
199   7.840   36   Babson   0.520 (13-12)   13-13
200   7.792   27   Southwestern   0.500 (12-12)   13-12

And through Friday:

Overall   QOWI   In reg.   Team   Reg. rec.   Overall
1   12.261   1   Bowdoin   0.957 (22-1)   24-1
2   11.800   1   Messiah   0.960 (24-1)   24-2
3   11.400   2   Emmanuel   0.960 (24-1)   26-1
4   11.360   2   Scranton   0.920 (23-2)   24-2
5   11.208   1   New York University   0.917 (22-2)   22-2
6   11.154   3   Southern Maine   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
7   11.125   2   Rochester   0.792 (19-5)   19-5
8   11.080   3   Cortland State   0.920 (23-2)   24-2
9   11.000   4   Fitchburg State   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
10   10.952   5   Williams   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
11   10.895   1   Luther   0.895 (17-2)   21-4
12   10.870   4   St. Lawrence   0.957 (22-1)   24-2
13   10.840   1   UW-Stout   0.840 (21-4)   22-5
14   10.800   6   Maine Maritime   0.920 (23-2)   25-2
15   10.789   1   Calvin   1.000 (19-0)   25-1
16   10.769   1   Mary Washington   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
17   10.654   3   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
18   10.636   7   Brandeis   0.818 (18-4)   19-4
19   10.619   2   Lake Forest   0.952 (20-1)   22-2
20   10.600   2   Kean   0.880 (22-3)   23-3
21   10.600   8   Norwich   0.920 (23-2)   24-2
22   10.600   4   McDaniel   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
23   10.583   3   Carroll   0.875 (21-3)   21-3
24   10.579   2   DePauw   0.842 (16-3)   23-3
25   10.519   3   Mount St. Mary   0.852 (23-4)   23-4
26   10.519   9   Maine-Farmington   0.889 (24-3)   24-3
27   10.500   2   Puget Sound   0.850 (17-3)   21-5
28   10.480   3   Wilmington   0.840 (21-4)   23-4
29   10.440   1   Howard Payne   0.960 (24-1)   25-1
30   10.417   4   Denison   0.875 (21-3)   23-4
31   10.400   4   Washington U.   0.800 (16-4)   19-5
32   10.333   5   Concordia (Wis.)   0.905 (19-2)   22-3
33   10.318   3   Simpson   0.773 (17-5)   21-6
34   10.304   5   Manchester   0.826 (19-4)   20-6
35   10.292   4   William Paterson   0.875 (21-3)   22-4
36   10.261   6   UW-Whitewater   0.739 (17-6)   19-7
37   10.261   6   Transylvania   0.783 (18-5)   19-7
38   10.240   2   McMurry   0.880 (22-3)   23-3
39   10.217   7   Illinois Wesleyan   0.870 (20-3)   22-4
40   10.208   4   St. Benedict   0.875 (21-3)   21-5
41   10.160   10   Keene State   0.800 (20-5)   21-5
42   10.143   5   Chapman   0.762 (16-5)   21-5
43   10.136   7   Hope   0.864 (19-3)   23-3
44   10.115   6   Gustavus Adolphus   0.846 (22-4)   22-4
45   10.115   5   Oswego State   0.731 (19-7)   19-7
46   10.059   7   George Fox   0.750 (13-4)   17-6
47   10.045   8   Chicago   0.727 (16-6)   18-6
48   10.000   3   Oglethorpe   0.826 (19-4)   20-6
49   9.958   11   Salve Regina   0.833 (20-4)   21-6
50   9.952   9   Maryville (Mo.)   0.857 (18-3)   21-5
51   9.923   12   Colby-Sawyer   0.846 (22-4)   22-4
52   9.923   8   Capital   0.769 (20-6)   20-6
53   9.917   4   Randolph-Macon   0.875 (21-3)   22-4
54   9.913   13   Tufts   0.696 (16-7)   17-7
55   9.909   6   Medaille   0.909 (20-2)   22-4
56   9.857   5   East Texas Baptist   0.857 (18-3)   22-4
57   9.833   6   Hardin-Simmons   0.833 (20-4)   21-4
58   9.833   5   Dickinson   0.833 (20-4)   21-4
59   9.773   10   UW-Eau Claire   0.727 (16-6)   19-8
60   9.760   7   Brockport State   0.720 (18-7)   20-7
61   9.731   6   Albright   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
62   9.727   11   Millikin   0.773 (17-5)   20-6
63   9.727   7   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.864 (19-3)   23-4
64   9.720   8   Ferrum   0.800 (20-5)   21-6
65   9.696   9   Westminster (Pa.)   0.783 (18-5)   22-5
66   9.652   9   Virginia Wesleyan   0.783 (18-5)   20-6
67   9.609   14   Bates   0.609 (14-9)   15-9
68   9.583   7   Muhlenberg   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
69   9.571   12   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.714 (15-6)   18-7
70   9.545   10   Thomas More   0.818 (18-4)   21-4
71   9.542   13   UW-Stevens Point   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
72   9.500   11   Rose-Hulman   0.773 (17-5)   21-5
73   9.480   5   Baruch   0.720 (18-7)   20-8
74   9.480   8   King's   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
75   9.407   6   Stevens   0.778 (21-6)   21-6
76   9.400   8   Elmira   0.750 (15-5)   21-5
77   9.364   9   Hamilton   0.682 (15-7)   18-7
78   9.320   15   Eastern Connecticut   0.640 (16-9)   16-11
79   9.320   12   Baldwin-Wallace   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
80   9.318   10   RPI   0.636 (14-8)   15-10
81   9.308   14   Benedictine   0.731 (19-7)   20-7
82   9.292   7   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
83   9.280   13   Penn State-Behrend   0.840 (21-4)   21-4
84   9.280   14   Allegheny   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
85   9.250   8   La Verne   0.750 (15-5)   19-6
86   9.240   16   Suffolk   0.720 (18-7)   18-9
87   9.222   8   York (Pa.)   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
88   9.185   17   Endicott   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
89   9.182   15   Carthage   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
90   9.160   15   Ohio Northern   0.640 (16-9)   17-10
91   9.148   9   Carleton   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
92   9.136   10   Piedmont   0.727 (16-6)   17-7
93   9.130   11   Trinity (Texas)   0.652 (15-8)   17-8
94   9.120   9   Lehman   0.680 (17-8)   19-9
95   9.120   9   Moravian   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
96   9.100   10   Minnesota-Morris   0.900 (9-1)   14-11
97   9.091   11   Keuka   0.727 (16-6)   17-7
98   9.087   11   Loras   0.696 (16-7)   17-9
99   9.080   18   Worcester Polytech   0.760 (19-6)   19-6
100   9.040   12   Shenandoah   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
101   9.000   12   Redlands   0.684 (13-6)   16-8
102   9.000   16   St. Norbert   0.667 (16-8)   16-8
103   9.000   12   Ithaca   0.600 (15-10)   15-11
104   9.000   13   William Smith   0.583 (14-10)   14-11
105   9.000   19   Mount Holyoke   0.708 (17-7)   19-7
106   8.962   10   Cabrini   0.731 (19-7)   19-7
107   8.957   13   Christopher Newport   0.696 (16-7)   19-8
108   8.957   16   Washington and Jefferson   0.652 (15-8)   19-8
109   8.917   13   Concordia-Moorhead   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
110   8.885   11   Ursinus   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
111   8.857   20   Wesleyan   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
112   8.852   10   Marymount   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
113   8.840   21   Wheaton (Mass.)   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
114   8.833   14   Bridgewater (Va.)   0.667 (16-8)   17-9
115   8.833   17   Wittenberg   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
116   8.826   15   Eastern Mennonite   0.696 (16-7)   17-8
117   8.818   14   Buena Vista   0.636 (14-8)   17-10
118   8.760   14   Utica   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
119   8.737   15   Lewis and Clark   0.632 (12-7)   16-9
120   8.708   11   Villa Julie   0.708 (17-7)   19-8
121   8.708   15   Geneseo State   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
122   8.667   17   UW-River Falls   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
123   8.667   12   Rutgers-Newark   0.667 (16-8)   16-10
124   8.667   22   Salem State   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
125   8.652   12   Juniata   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
126   8.650   13   Johns Hopkins   0.700 (14-6)   14-9
127   8.640   16   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
128   8.640   23   Rhode Island College   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
129   8.636   24   Mass-Boston   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
130   8.615   25   Castleton State   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
131   8.609   17   Greensboro   0.696 (16-7)   18-9
132   8.591   18   Hendrix   0.727 (16-6)   19-7
133   8.583   16   Union   0.542 (13-11)   13-12
134   8.560   17   New Paltz State   0.680 (17-8)   17-10
135   8.550   16   Linfield   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
136   8.550   19   Texas-Tyler   0.700 (14-6)   17-8
137   8.542   18   Rochester Tech   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
138   8.520   18   Aurora   0.680 (17-8)   17-9
139   8.520   13   John Jay   0.640 (16-9)   18-9
140   8.500   20   Austin   0.625 (15-9)   15-9
141   8.500   14   Montclair State   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
142   8.481   26   Western New England   0.556 (15-12)   15-12
143   8.478   14   Susquehanna   0.522 (12-11)   15-11
144   8.476   18   Anderson   0.571 (12-9)   16-10
145   8.462   19   Edgewood   0.577 (15-11)   15-12
146   8.458   15   DeSales   0.583 (14-10)   16-10
147   8.440   27   Emerson   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
148   8.423   17   St. Thomas   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
149   8.400   18   Whitworth   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
150   8.368   19   Whitman   0.526 (10-9)   12-13
151   8.364   20   Lawrence   0.545 (12-10)   13-11
152   8.333   20   Occidental   0.611 (11-7)   16-9
153   8.333   16   Neumann   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
154   8.333   17   Alvernia   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
155   8.320   19   Mount Union   0.520 (13-12)   14-13
156   8.316   21   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.579 (11-8)   15-10
157   8.304   19   Oneonta State   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
158   8.304   20   Albion   0.565 (13-10)   15-11
159   8.294   21   Principia   0.706 (12-5)   19-6
160   8.280   22   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
161   8.269   28   Western Connecticut   0.538 (14-12)   15-12
162   8.261   29   Amherst   0.522 (12-11)   12-13
163   8.259   15   New Jersey   0.481 (13-14)   13-14
164   8.231   18   Gettysburg   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
165   8.200   21   Roanoke   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
166   8.192   23   Lakeland   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
167   8.185   30   Nichols   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
168   8.185   31   Husson   0.519 (14-13)   14-13
169   8.176   22   Pacific Lutheran   0.529 (9-8)   13-11
170   8.174   16   Mt. St. Vincent   0.565 (13-10)   15-10
171   8.136   22   Rhodes   0.636 (14-8)   16-9
172   8.136   23   Washington and Lee   0.591 (13-9)   16-10
173   8.125   21   Kenyon   0.542 (13-11)   14-13
174   8.095   24   Greenville   0.614 (13-8)   17-8
175   8.087   22   St. Mary's (Ind.)   0.522 (12-11)   12-12
176   8.048   25   North Park   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
177   8.048   26   Fontbonne   0.571 (12-9)   13-13
178   8.045   27   UW-La Crosse   0.455 (10-12)   13-13
179   8.045   17   Salisbury   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
180   8.045   18   Catholic   0.545 (12-10)   15-11
181   8.038   19   Richard Stockton   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
182   8.038   32   Springfield   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
183   8.000   20   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
184   8.000   23   Defiance   0.524 (11-10)   14-11
185   7.962   24   Mississippi College   0.615 (16-10)   16-10
186   7.960   33   Worcester State   0.480 (12-13)   14-13
187   7.958   34   Bridgewater State   0.542 (13-11)   14-11
188   7.957   24   Otterbein   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
189   7.952   25   Emory   0.429 (9-12)   9-15
190   7.917   21   Frostburg State   0.625 (15-9)   17-9
191   7.917   20   St. John Fisher   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
192   7.917   19   Drew   0.500 (12-12)   13-13
193   7.905   22   Notre Dame (Md.)   0.714 (15-6)   17-6
194   7.875   25   Wooster   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
195   7.864   26   Olivet   0.545 (12-10)   12-12
196   7.842   26   Agnes Scott   0.526 (10-9)   16-9
197   7.840   23   St. Catherine's   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
198   7.792   20   Delaware Valley   0.458 (11-13)   11-13
199   7.762   35   Trinity (Conn.)   0.524 (11-10)   12-12
200   7.760   28   UW-Platteville   0.400 (10-15)   11-16

Congratulations to the AD3I Northeast Regional Champion Lincoln Lions winning their first postseason championship in school history 87-72 over Mitchell College.  The Lady Lions complete this seson with a school record 19 wins and 8 losses.  Lincoln was led by tournament MVP (So.) Sharell McMillian, (Fr.) Sha'nice Nesmith, and (Sr.) Mary Rotimi.

Lincoln must now wait to see if an ECAC invitation is extended to the Lady Lions.  Congratulations to Coach Harman, his staff and the Lady Lions for a "Record Setting Season"   ;D

Concordia-WI knocks off Benedictine to win the NAthCon Tournament Championship.

Through Saturday:
(I have taken the liberty to put the Pool B's in Italics. (4 bids given)  Ralph Turner)

Overall   QOWI   Rk in reg   Team   Region Win%   Overall
1   12.333   1   Bowdoin   0.958 (23-1)   25-1
2   11.731   1   Messiah   0.962 (25-1)   25-2
3   11.500   2   Emmanuel   0.962 (25-1)   27-1
4   11.462   2   Scranton   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
5   11.320   1   New York University   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
6   11.259   3   Southern Maine   0.926 (25-2)   25-2
7   11.192   2   Cortland State   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
8   11.037   4   Fitchburg State   0.926 (25-2)   25-2
9   11.000   3   Rochester   0.800 (20-5)   20-5
10   10.962   1   UW-Stout   0.846 (22-4)   23-5
11   10.815   1   Mary Washington   0.926 (25-2)   26-2
12   10.778   3   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.926 (25-2)   25-2
13   10.773   5   Williams   0.773 (17-5)   20-6
14   10.773   2   Lake Forest   0.955 (21-1)   23-2
15   10.769   2   Kean   0.885 (23-3)   24-3
16   10.750   1   Luther   0.900 (18-2)   22-4
17   10.700   1   DePauw   0.850 (17-3)   24-3
18   10.667   4   St. Lawrence   0.917 (22-2)   24-3
19   10.654   6   Maine Maritime   0.885 (23-3)   25-3
20   10.643   3   Mount St. Mary   0.857 (24-4)   24-4
21   10.615   2   Wilmington   0.846 (22-4)   24-4
22   10.607   7   Maine-Farmington   0.893 (25-3)   25-3
23   10.577   1   Howard Payne   0.962 (25-1)   26-1
24   10.571   3   Washington U.   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
25   10.560   3   Denison   0.880 (22-3)   24-4
26   10.550   4   Calvin   0.950 (19-1)   25-2
27   10.500   4   Concordia (Wis.)   0.909 (20-2)   23-3
28   10.478   8   Brandeis   0.783 (18-5)   19-5
29   10.462   9   Norwich   0.885 (23-3)   24-3
30   10.458   5   Manchester   0.833 (20-4)   21-6
31   10.440   5   Carroll   0.840 (21-4)   21-4
32   10.423   2   McMurry   0.885 (23-3)   24-3
33   10.360   2   St. Benedict   0.875 (21-3)   22-5
34   10.348   6   Hope   0.870 (20-3)   24-3
35   10.346   4   McDaniel   0.885 (23-3)   23-3
36   10.333   3   Puget Sound   0.810 (17-4)   21-6
37   10.278   4   George Fox   0.763 (14-4)   18-6
38   10.261   6   UW-Whitewater   0.739 (17-6)   19-7
39   10.160   10   Salve Regina   0.840 (21-4)   22-6
40   10.136   5   Chapman   0.773 (17-5)   22-5
41   10.125   3   Oglethorpe   0.833 (20-4)   21-6
42   10.125   7   Transylvania   0.750 (18-6)   19-8
43   10.120   4   William Paterson   0.840 (21-4)   22-5
44   10.087   5   Medaille   0.913 (21-2)   23-4
45   10.083   7   Illinois Wesleyan   0.833 (20-4)   22-5
46   10.045   6   Simpson   0.773 (17-5)   21-6
47   10.042   11   Tufts   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
48   10.040   5   Dickinson   0.840 (21-4)   22-4
49   10.038   12   Keene State   0.769 (20-6)   21-6
50   10.000   6   Oswego State   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
51   10.000   4   Randolph-Macon   0.880 (22-3)   23-4
52   10.000   7   Gustavus Adolphus   0.846 (22-4)   22-5
53   9.913   8   Chicago   0.696 (16-7)   18-7
54   9.864   9   Maryville (Mo.)   0.864 (19-3)   22-5
55   9.815   8   Capital   0.741 (20-7)   20-7
56   9.792   5   Virginia Wesleyan   0.792 (19-5)   21-6
57   9.773   10   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.727 (16-6)   19-7
58   9.760   7   Brockport State   0.720 (18-7)   20-7
59   9.741   13   Colby-Sawyer   0.815 (22-5)   22-5
60   9.739   9   Thomas More   0.826 (19-4)   22-4
61   9.731   6   Albright   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
62   9.727   6   East Texas Baptist   0.818 (18-4)   22-5
63   9.727   11   Millikin   0.773 (17-5)   20-6
64   9.720   7   Hardin-Simmons   0.800 (20-5)   21-5
65   9.652   12   UW-Eau Claire   0.696 (16-7)   19-9
66   9.615   8   Ferrum   0.769 (20-6)   21-7
67   9.609   8   Hamilton   0.696 (16-7)   19-7
68   9.609   9   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.826 (19-4)   23-5
69   9.583   10   Westminster (Pa.)   0.750 (18-6)   22-6
70   9.542   13   UW-Stevens Point   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
71   9.500   14   Bates   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
72   9.500   11   Rose-Hulman   0.773 (17-5)   21-5
73   9.480   5   Baruch   0.720 (18-7)   20-8
74   9.480   7   Muhlenberg   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
75   9.407   6   Stevens   0.778 (21-6)   21-6
76   9.385   8   King's   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
77   9.348   10   Piedmont   0.739 (17-6)   18-7
78   9.320   15   Eastern Connecticut   0.640 (16-9)   16-11
79   9.320   12   Baldwin-Wallace   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
80   9.318   9   RPI   0.636 (14-8)   15-10
81   9.304   10   Keuka   0.727 (16-6)   18-7
82   9.250   8   La Verne   0.750 (15-5)   19-6
83   9.240   16   Suffolk   0.720 (18-7)   18-9
84   9.231   11   Ithaca   0.615 (16-10)   16-11
85   9.222   7   York (Pa.)   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
86   9.222   14   Benedictine   0.704 (19-8)   20-8
87   9.200   8   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
88   9.192   17   Worcester Polytech   0.769 (20-6)   20-6
89   9.192   13   Penn State-Behrend   0.808 (21-5)   21-5
90   9.192   14   Allegheny   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
91   9.185   18   Endicott   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
92   9.167   11   Christopher Newport   0.708 (17-7)   20-8
93   9.160   19   Mount Holyoke   0.720 (18-7)   20-7
94   9.160   15   Ohio Northern   0.640 (16-9)   17-10
95   9.148   9   Carleton   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
96   9.143   12   Elmira   0.714 (15-6)   21-6
97   9.130   12   Trinity (Texas)   0.652 (15-8)   17-8
98   9.120   9   Lehman   0.680 (17-8)   19-9
99   9.111   9   Ursinus   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
100   9.091   15   Carthage   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
101   9.038   10   Moravian   0.577 (15-11)   16-11
102   9.000   13   William Smith   0.583 (14-10)   14-11
103   9.000   16   St. Norbert   0.667 (16-8)   16-8
104   9.000   10   Redlands   0.684 (13-6)   16-8
105   9.000   11   Loras   0.667 (16-8)   17-10
106   8.960   13   Shenandoah   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
107   8.957   16   Washington and Jefferson   0.652 (15-8)   19-8
108   8.917   12   Minnesota-Morris   0.833 (10-2)   15-12
109   8.917   13   Concordia-Moorhead   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
110   8.889   11   Cabrini   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
111   8.857   20   Wesleyan   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
112   8.833   14   Bridgewater (Va.)   0.667 (16-8)   17-9
113   8.833   17   Wittenberg   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
114   8.826   15   Eastern Mennonite   0.696 (16-7)   17-8
115   8.786   10   Marymount   0.643 (18-10)   18-10
116   8.769   21   Wheaton (Mass.)   0.615 (16-10)   17-10
117   8.760   14   Utica   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
118   8.737   14   Lewis and Clark   0.632 (12-7)   16-9
119   8.708   15   Geneseo State   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
120   8.667   11   Rutgers-Newark   0.667 (16-8)   16-10
121   8.667   17   UW-River Falls   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
122   8.652   12   Juniata   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
123   8.650   13   Johns Hopkins   0.700 (14-6)   14-9
124   8.640   22   Rhode Island College   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
125   8.640   12   Villa Julie   0.708 (17-7)   19-9
126   8.640   16   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
127   8.636   23   Mass-Boston   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
128   8.636   15   Buena Vista   0.636 (14-8)   17-10
129   8.615   24   Castleton State   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
130   8.609   17   Greensboro   0.696 (16-7)   18-9
131   8.607   25   Salem State   0.607 (17-11)   17-11
132   8.591   18   Hendrix   0.727 (16-6)   19-7
133   8.583   16   Union   0.542 (13-11)   13-12
134   8.560   17   New Paltz State   0.680 (17-8)   17-10
135   8.550   19   Texas-Tyler   0.700 (14-6)   17-8
136   8.550   16   Linfield   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
137   8.542   18   Rochester Tech   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
138   8.520   18   Aurora   0.680 (17-8)   17-9
139   8.500   13   Montclair State   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
140   8.481   26   Western New England   0.556 (15-12)   15-12
141   8.478   14   Susquehanna   0.522 (12-11)   15-11
142   8.476   18   Anderson   0.571 (12-9)   16-10
143   8.462   19   Edgewood   0.577 (15-11)   15-12
144   8.458   15   DeSales   0.583 (14-10)   16-10
145   8.440   27   Emerson   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
146   8.440   14   John Jay   0.640 (16-9)   18-9
147   8.440   20   Austin   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
148   8.423   17   St. Thomas   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
149   8.400   18   Whitworth   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
150   8.368   19   Whitman   0.526 (10-9)   12-13
151   8.364   20   Lawrence   0.545 (12-10)   13-11
152   8.333   20   Occidental   0.611 (11-7)   16-9
153   8.333   16   Neumann   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
154   8.333   17   Alvernia   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
155   8.320   19   Mount Union   0.520 (13-12)   14-13
156   8.316   21   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.579 (11-8)   15-10
157   8.304   19   Oneonta State   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
158   8.304   20   Albion   0.565 (13-10)   15-11
159   8.280   21   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
160   8.269   28   Western Connecticut   0.538 (14-12)   15-12
161   8.261   29   Amherst   0.522 (12-11)   12-13
162   8.259   15   New Jersey   0.481 (13-14)   13-14
163   8.231   18   Gettysburg   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
164   8.222   22   Principia   0.667 (12-6)   19-7
165   8.192   23   Lakeland   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
166   8.185   30   Nichols   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
167   8.185   31   Husson   0.519 (14-13)   14-13
168   8.176   22   Pacific Lutheran   0.529 (9-8)   13-11
169   8.174   16   Mt. St. Vincent   0.565 (13-10)   15-10
170   8.154   21   Roanoke   0.577 (15-11)   16-11
171   8.125   21   Kenyon   0.542 (13-11)   14-13
172   8.087   22   Washington and Lee   0.565 (13-10)   16-11
173   8.087   22   St. Mary's (Ind.)   0.522 (12-11)   12-12
174   8.048   24   North Park   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
175   8.045   17   Salisbury   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
176   8.045   18   Catholic   0.545 (12-10)   15-11
177   8.045   23   Emory   0.455 (10-12)   10-15
178   8.045   25   UW-La Crosse   0.455 (10-12)   13-13
179   8.038   32   Springfield   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
180   8.038   19   Richard Stockton   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
181   8.000   20   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
182   8.000   24   Rhodes   0.609 (14-9)   16-10
183   8.000   23   Defiance   0.524 (11-10)   14-11
184   7.962   25   Mississippi College   0.615 (16-10)   16-10
185   7.960   33   Worcester State   0.480 (12-13)   14-13
186   7.958   34   Bridgewater State   0.542 (13-11)   14-11
187   7.957   24   Otterbein   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
188   7.917   20   St. John Fisher   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
189   7.917   21   Frostburg State   0.625 (15-9)   17-9
190   7.917   19   Drew   0.500 (12-12)   13-13
191   7.875   25   Wooster   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
192   7.864   22   Notre Dame (Md.)   0.727 (16-6)   18-6
193   7.864   26   Olivet   0.545 (12-10)   12-12
194   7.857   26   Fontbonne   0.571 (12-9)   13-13
195   7.842   26   Agnes Scott   0.526 (10-9)   16-9
196   7.840   23   St. Catherine's   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
197   7.810   27   Greenville   0.614 (13-8)   17-8
198   7.792   20   Delaware Valley   0.458 (11-13)   11-13
199   7.762   35   Trinity (Conn.)   0.524 (11-10)   12-12
200   7.750   36   Middlebury   0.458 (11-13)   12-13

No problem on your liberty. :)

1   12.400   1   Bowdoin   0.960 (24-1)   26-1
2   11.731   1   Messiah   0.962 (25-1)   25-2
3   11.500   2   Emmanuel   0.962 (25-1)   27-1
4   11.462   2   Scranton   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
5   11.320   1   New York University   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
6   11.259   3   Southern Maine   0.926 (25-2)   25-2
7   11.192   2   Cortland State   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
8   11.037   4   Fitchburg State   0.926 (25-2)   25-2
9   11.000   3   Rochester   0.800 (20-5)   20-5
10   10.962   1   UW-Stout   0.846 (22-4)   23-5
11   10.905   1   DePauw   0.857 (18-3)   25-3
12   10.852   3   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.926 (25-2)   25-2
13   10.815   1   Mary Washington   0.926 (25-2)   26-2
14   10.773   2   Lake Forest   0.955 (21-1)   23-2
15   10.773   5   Williams   0.773 (17-5)   20-6
16   10.769   2   Kean   0.885 (23-3)   24-3
17   10.750   1   Luther   0.900 (18-2)   22-4
18   10.704   1   Howard Payne   0.963 (26-1)   27-1
19   10.667   4   St. Lawrence   0.917 (22-2)   24-3
20   10.654   6   Maine Maritime   0.885 (23-3)   25-3
21   10.643   3   Mount St. Mary   0.857 (24-4)   24-4
22   10.615   2   Wilmington   0.846 (22-4)   24-4
23   10.607   7   Maine-Farmington   0.893 (25-3)   25-3
24   10.571   3   Washington U.   0.810 (17-4)   20-5
25   10.560   3   Denison   0.880 (22-3)   24-4
26   10.550   4   Calvin   0.950 (19-1)   25-2
27   10.500   4   Concordia (Wis.)   0.909 (20-2)   23-3
28   10.500   4   McDaniel   0.885 (23-3)   23-3
29   10.478   8   Brandeis   0.783 (18-5)   19-5
30   10.462   9   Norwich   0.885 (23-3)   24-3
31   10.458   5   Manchester   0.833 (20-4)   21-6
32   10.440   5   Carroll   0.840 (21-4)   21-4
33   10.360   2   St. Benedict   0.875 (21-3)   22-5
34   10.348   6   Hope   0.870 (20-3)   24-3
35   10.333   3   Puget Sound   0.810 (17-4)   21-6
36   10.296   2   McMurry   0.852 (23-4)   24-4
37   10.278   4   George Fox   0.763 (14-4)   18-6
38   10.261   6   UW-Whitewater   0.739 (17-6)   19-7
39   10.192   3   Randolph-Macon   0.885 (23-3)   24-4
40   10.160   10   Salve Regina   0.840 (21-4)   22-6
41   10.136   5   Chapman   0.773 (17-5)   22-5
42   10.125   7   Transylvania   0.750 (18-6)   19-8
43   10.120   4   William Paterson   0.840 (21-4)   22-5
44   10.087   5   Medaille   0.913 (21-2)   23-4
45   10.083   7   Illinois Wesleyan   0.833 (20-4)   22-5
46   10.077   5   Dickinson   0.808 (21-5)   22-5
47   10.045   6   Simpson   0.773 (17-5)   21-6
48   10.038   11   Keene State   0.769 (20-6)   21-6
49   10.000   7   Gustavus Adolphus   0.846 (22-4)   22-5
50   10.000   4   Oglethorpe   0.800 (20-5)   21-7
51   10.000   6   Oswego State   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
52   9.920   12   Tufts   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
53   9.913   8   Chicago   0.696 (16-7)   18-7
54   9.864   9   Maryville (Mo.)   0.864 (19-3)   22-5
55   9.815   8   Capital   0.741 (20-7)   20-7
56   9.808   6   Albright   0.654 (17-9)   17-9
57   9.773   10   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.727 (16-6)   19-7
58   9.760   7   Brockport State   0.720 (18-7)   20-7
59   9.741   13   Colby-Sawyer   0.815 (22-5)   22-5
60   9.739   9   Thomas More   0.826 (19-4)   22-4
61   9.727   11   Millikin   0.773 (17-5)   20-6
62   9.727   5   East Texas Baptist   0.818 (18-4)   22-5
63   9.720   6   Hardin-Simmons   0.800 (20-5)   21-5
64   9.680   7   Virginia Wesleyan   0.760 (19-6)   21-7
65   9.652   12   UW-Eau Claire   0.696 (16-7)   19-9
66   9.640   7   Muhlenberg   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
67   9.615   8   Ferrum   0.769 (20-6)   21-7
68   9.609   9   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.826 (19-4)   23-5
69   9.609   8   Hamilton   0.696 (16-7)   19-7
70   9.583   10   Westminster (Pa.)   0.750 (18-6)   22-6
71   9.542   13   UW-Stevens Point   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
72   9.500   11   Rose-Hulman   0.773 (17-5)   21-5
73   9.500   14   Bates   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
74   9.480   5   Baruch   0.720 (18-7)   20-8
75   9.407   6   Stevens   0.778 (21-6)   21-6
76   9.385   8   King's   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
77   9.385   15   Mount Holyoke   0.731 (19-7)   21-7
78   9.348   10   Piedmont   0.739 (17-6)   18-7
79   9.321   9   Ursinus   0.679 (19-9)   19-9
80   9.320   12   Baldwin-Wallace   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
81   9.320   16   Eastern Connecticut   0.640 (16-9)   16-11
82   9.318   9   RPI   0.636 (14-8)   15-10
83   9.304   10   Keuka   0.727 (16-6)   18-7
84   9.250   8   La Verne   0.750 (15-5)   19-6
85   9.240   17   Suffolk   0.720 (18-7)   18-9
86   9.231   11   Ithaca   0.615 (16-10)   16-11
87   9.222   14   Benedictine   0.704 (19-8)   20-8
88   9.222   7   York (Pa.)   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
89   9.200   8   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
90   9.192   13   Penn State-Behrend   0.808 (21-5)   21-5
91   9.192   14   Allegheny   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
92   9.185   18   Endicott   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
93   9.167   11   Christopher Newport   0.708 (17-7)   20-8
94   9.160   15   Ohio Northern   0.640 (16-9)   17-10
95   9.148   9   Carleton   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
96   9.143   12   Elmira   0.714 (15-6)   21-6
97   9.130   12   Trinity (Texas)   0.652 (15-8)   17-8
98   9.120   9   Lehman   0.680 (17-8)   19-9
99   9.115   10   Moravian   0.577 (15-11)   16-11
100   9.091   10   Minnesota-Morris   0.833 (10-2)   15-12
101   9.091   15   Carthage   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
102   9.074   19   Worcester Polytech   0.741 (20-7)   20-7
103   9.000   11   Redlands   0.684 (13-6)   16-8
104   9.000   12   Loras   0.667 (16-8)   17-10
105   9.000   16   St. Norbert   0.667 (16-8)   16-8
106   9.000   13   William Smith   0.583 (14-10)   14-11
107   8.960   13   Shenandoah   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
108   8.957   16   Washington and Jefferson   0.652 (15-8)   19-8
109   8.917   13   Concordia-Moorhead   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
110   8.889   11   Cabrini   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
111   8.857   20   Wesleyan   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
112   8.850   12   Johns Hopkins   0.700 (14-6)   14-9
113   8.833   14   Bridgewater (Va.)   0.667 (16-8)   17-9
114   8.833   17   Wittenberg   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
115   8.826   15   Eastern Mennonite   0.696 (16-7)   17-8
116   8.786   10   Marymount   0.643 (18-10)   18-10
117   8.769   21   Wheaton (Mass.)   0.615 (16-10)   17-10
118   8.760   14   Utica   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
119   8.737   14   Lewis and Clark   0.632 (12-7)   16-9
120   8.708   15   Geneseo State   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
121   8.667   17   UW-River Falls   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
122   8.667   11   Rutgers-Newark   0.667 (16-8)   16-10
123   8.652   13   Juniata   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
124   8.640   16   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
125   8.640   12   Villa Julie   0.708 (17-7)   19-9
126   8.640   22   Rhode Island College   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
127   8.636   15   Buena Vista   0.636 (14-8)   17-10
128   8.636   23   Mass-Boston   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
129   8.615   24   Castleton State   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
130   8.609   17   Greensboro   0.696 (16-7)   18-9
131   8.607   25   Salem State   0.607 (17-11)   17-11
132   8.591   18   Hendrix   0.727 (16-6)   19-7
133   8.583   16   Union   0.542 (13-11)   13-12
134   8.560   17   New Paltz State   0.680 (17-8)   17-10
135   8.550   16   Linfield   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
136   8.550   19   Texas-Tyler   0.700 (14-6)   17-8
137   8.542   18   Rochester Tech   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
138   8.520   18   Aurora   0.680 (17-8)   17-9
139   8.500   13   Montclair State   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
140   8.481   26   Western New England   0.556 (15-12)   15-12
141   8.478   14   Susquehanna   0.522 (12-11)   15-11
142   8.476   18   Anderson   0.571 (12-9)   16-10
143   8.462   19   Edgewood   0.577 (15-11)   15-12
144   8.462   15   Gettysburg   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
145   8.458   16   DeSales   0.583 (14-10)   16-10
146   8.440   20   Austin   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
147   8.440   14   John Jay   0.640 (16-9)   18-9
148   8.440   27   Emerson   0.640 (16-9)   16-10
149   8.423   17   St. Thomas   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
150   8.400   18   Whitworth   0.550 (11-9)   14-11
151   8.368   19   Whitman   0.526 (10-9)   12-13
152   8.364   20   Lawrence   0.545 (12-10)   13-11
153   8.333   20   Occidental   0.611 (11-7)   16-9
154   8.333   17   Neumann   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
155   8.333   18   Alvernia   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
156   8.333   15   New Jersey   0.481 (13-14)   13-14
157   8.320   19   Mount Union   0.520 (13-12)   14-13
158   8.316   21   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.579 (11-8)   15-10
159   8.304   20   Albion   0.565 (13-10)   15-11
160   8.304   19   Oneonta State   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
161   8.280   21   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
162   8.269   28   Western Connecticut   0.538 (14-12)   15-12
163   8.261   29   Amherst   0.522 (12-11)   12-13
164   8.222   22   Principia   0.667 (12-6)   19-7
165   8.192   23   Lakeland   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
166   8.185   30   Nichols   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
167   8.185   31   Husson   0.519 (14-13)   14-13
168   8.176   22   Pacific Lutheran   0.529 (9-8)   13-11
169   8.174   16   Mt. St. Vincent   0.565 (13-10)   15-10
170   8.154   21   Roanoke   0.577 (15-11)   16-11
171   8.125   21   Kenyon   0.542 (13-11)   14-13
172   8.087   22   Washington and Lee   0.565 (13-10)   16-11
173   8.087   22   St. Mary's (Ind.)   0.522 (12-11)   12-12
174   8.048   24   North Park   0.571 (12-9)   15-9
175   8.045   25   UW-La Crosse   0.455 (10-12)   13-13
176   8.045   23   Emory   0.455 (10-12)   10-15
177   8.045   17   Salisbury   0.591 (13-9)   15-11
178   8.045   18   Catholic   0.545 (12-10)   15-11
179   8.038   19   Richard Stockton   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
180   8.038   32   Springfield   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
181   8.000   24   Rhodes   0.609 (14-9)   16-10
182   8.000   23   Defiance   0.524 (11-10)   14-11
183   8.000   20   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
184   7.962   25   Mississippi College   0.615 (16-10)   16-10
185   7.960   33   Worcester State   0.480 (12-13)   14-13
186   7.958   34   Bridgewater State   0.542 (13-11)   14-11
187   7.957   24   Otterbein   0.522 (12-11)   14-12
188   7.917   19   Drew   0.500 (12-12)   13-13
189   7.917   21   Frostburg State   0.625 (15-9)   17-9
190   7.917   20   St. John Fisher   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
191   7.875   25   Wooster   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
192   7.875   20   Delaware Valley   0.458 (11-13)   11-13
193   7.864   26   Olivet   0.545 (12-10)   12-12
194   7.864   22   Notre Dame (Md.)   0.727 (16-6)   18-6
195   7.857   26   Fontbonne   0.571 (12-9)   13-13
196   7.842   26   Agnes Scott   0.526 (10-9)   16-9
197   7.840   23   St. Catherine's   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
198   7.810   27   Greenville   0.614 (13-8)   17-8
199   7.762   35   Trinity (Conn.)   0.524 (11-10)   12-12
200   7.750   36   Middlebury   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
201   7.739   21   Immaculata   0.609 (14-9)   14-11
202   7.731   37   Babson   0.500 (13-13)   13-14
203   7.700   27   Franklin   0.550 (11-9)   13-11
204   7.680   28   UW-Platteville   0.400 (10-15)   11-16
205   7.667   22   Lincoln   0.722 (13-5)   19-8
206   7.667   23   Elizabethtown   0.524 (11-10)   13-11
207   7.640   38   Clark   0.480 (12-13)   12-13
208   7.625   28   Ohio Wesleyan   0.500 (12-12)   14-12
209   7.615   29   Pitt-Greensburg   0.538 (14-12)   14-12
210   7.591   29   Marian   0.500 (11-11)   14-12
211   7.583   24   Wartburg   0.500 (12-12)   13-13
212   7.565   27   Methodist   0.478 (11-12)   13-13
213   7.542   25   Bethel   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
214   7.520   28   Southwestern   0.480 (12-13)   13-13
215   7.500   21   D'Youville   0.545 (12-10)   15-10
216   7.500   39   Becker   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
217   7.478   40   Wentworth Tech   0.522 (12-11)   12-13
218   7.471   30   Northland   0.588 (10-7)   14-11
219   7.458   41   Thomas   0.500 (12-12)   14-12
220   7.455   22   Hartwick   0.409 (9-13)   9-14
221   7.423   42   Curry   0.462 (12-14)   12-14
222   7.400   26   Colorado College   0.467 (7-8)   10-14
223   7.391   24   Misericordia   0.565 (13-10)   14-11
224   7.385   43   University of New England   0.462 (12-14)   12-14
225   7.381   31   Beloit   0.476 (10-11)   11-12
226   7.346   23   Hunter   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
227   7.333   27   Hamline   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
228   7.333   28   Cal Lutheran   0.389 (7-11)   11-13
229   7.280   44   Coast Guard   0.480 (12-13)   13-13
230   7.261   29   LaGrange   0.565 (13-10)   15-12
231   7.250   25   Washington College   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
232   7.250   45   Roger Williams   0.500 (12-12)   12-14
233   7.217   23   Fredonia State   0.391 (9-14)   10-14
234   7.154   46   Lasell   0.500 (13-13)   13-13
235   7.120   24   Skidmore   0.480 (12-13)   12-13
236   7.115   25   Potsdam State   0.423 (11-15)   11-15
237   7.059   26   Philadelphia Bible   0.500 (8-8)   16-10
238   7.045   29   Coe   0.364 (8-14)   8-18
239   7.045   30   Heidelberg   0.409 (9-13)   12-13
240   7.045   31   John Carroll   0.364 (8-14)   10-16
241   7.042   32   Case Western Reserve   0.333 (8-16)   9-16
242   7.000   32   Ripon   0.409 (9-13)   9-14
243   6.960   47   Mount Ida   0.400 (10-15)   10-15
244   6.958   33   UW-Oshkosh   0.340 (8-16)   8-16
245   6.957   24   Kings Point   0.435 (10-13)   10-16
246   6.920   27   FDU-Florham   0.400 (10-15)   10-15
247   6.917   34   Concordia (Ill.)   0.417 (10-14)   11-14
248   6.917   25   SUNY-Old Westbury   0.458 (11-13)   13-13
249   6.913   26   Centenary   0.435 (10-13)   12-13
250   6.880   33   Pitt-Bradford   0.400 (10-15)   10-16
251   6.875   30   Texas-Dallas   0.417 (10-14)   10-14
252   6.870   48   Johnson State   0.435 (10-13)   13-13
253   6.840   31   Guilford   0.360 (9-16)   10-16
254   6.810   35   Monmouth   0.476 (10-11)   11-12
255   6.789   36   Illinois College   0.421 (8-11)   8-15
256   6.769   30   St. Scholastica   0.462 (6-7)   10-15
257   6.762   49   Colby   0.238 (5-16)   6-17
258   6.750   34   Finlandia   0.333 (4-8)   8-17
259   6.750   35   Muskingum   0.292 (7-17)   8-18
260   6.750   28   Widener   0.333 (8-16)   9-16
261   6.720   50   New England College   0.480 (12-13)   12-13
262   6.688   27   St. Elizabeth   0.500 (8-8)   11-10
263   6.684   37   Milwaukee Engineering   0.375 (7-12)   8-14
264   6.682   32   Sewanee   0.318 (7-15)   9-16
265   6.680   51   Rivier   0.560 (14-11)   15-11
266   6.667   38   UW-Superior   0.292 (7-17)   8-17
267   6.667   28   Staten Island   0.417 (10-14)   12-15
268   6.654   36   Lake Erie   0.423 (11-15)   11-15
269   6.654   52   Westfield State   0.385 (10-16)   10-16
270   6.583   26   Nazareth   0.292 (7-17)   7-18
271   6.565   53   Connecticut College   0.391 (9-14)   10-14
272   6.542   33   Mary Baldwin   0.458 (11-13)   12-14
273   6.542   27   Clarkson   0.333 (8-16)   8-17
274   6.526   31   Central   0.263 (5-14)   6-18
275   6.524   34   Concordia-Austin   0.381 (8-13)   8-16
276   6.500   37   Bethany   0.333 (8-16)   9-18
277   6.471   29   Trinity (D.C.)   0.471 (8-9)   10-13
278   6.455   38   Thiel   0.364 (8-14)   8-17
279   6.435   39   Carnegie Mellon   0.261 (6-17)   8-17
280   6.429   40   Alma   0.381 (8-13)   10-14
281   6.400   30   New Jersey City   0.300 (6-14)   10-15
282   6.400   54   Plymouth State   0.240 (6-19)   6-19
283   6.391   29   Penn State-Berks   0.304 (7-16)   9-17
284   6.389   32   Whittier   0.389 (7-11)   12-13
285   6.364   41   Waynesburg   0.364 (8-14)   9-16
286   6.333   39   Grinnell   0.381 (8-13)   9-14
287   6.333   40   Rockford   0.292 (7-17)   8-17
288   6.333   30   Lebanon Valley   0.292 (7-17)   7-17
289   6.333   31   Manhattanville   0.250 (6-18)   7-19
290   6.320   35   University of the Ozarks   0.320 (8-17)   9-17
291   6.318   36   Lynchburg   0.318 (7-15)   7-19
292   6.304   42   Adrian   0.304 (7-16)   9-16
293   6.286   43   Mount Aloysius   0.381 (8-13)   12-13
294   6.263   37   Centre   0.158 (3-16)   6-16
295   6.250   33   UC Santa Cruz   0.250 (3-9)   9-17
296   6.240   34   Dubuque   0.360 (9-16)   9-16
297   6.238   32   New York City Tech   0.429 (9-12)   11-14
298   6.238   28   Cazenovia   0.350 (7-13)   9-17
299   6.217   55   Johnson and Wales   0.348 (8-15)   9-16
300   6.211   41   North Central   0.211 (4-15)   5-20
301   6.190   38   University of Dallas   0.381 (8-13)   12-15
302   6.190   29   SUNYIT   0.286 (6-15)   8-17
303   6.182   30   Buffalo State   0.273 (6-16)   7-18
304   6.167   33   Rutgers-Camden   0.292 (7-17)   8-17
305   6.136   34   Medgar Evers   0.455 (10-12)   11-15
306   6.125   39   Spelman   0.313 (5-11)   9-13
307   6.125   31   Arcadia   0.333 (8-16)   9-16
308   6.095   42   Eureka   0.432 (9-12)   11-13
309   6.095   32   Keystone   0.250 (5-15)   8-17
310   6.080   35   Rowan   0.360 (9-16)   9-16
311   6.048   35   Cornell   0.333 (7-14)   8-17
312   6.045   56   Simmons   0.364 (8-14)   9-15
313   6.000   57   Elms   0.292 (7-17)   7-18
314   5.958   33   Franklin and Marshall   0.250 (6-18)   6-19
315   5.955   40   Averett   0.227 (5-17)   5-19
316   5.955   44   Mt. St. Joseph   0.227 (5-17)   7-17
317   5.955   34   Marywood   0.364 (8-14)   10-15
318   5.952   35   Bryn Mawr   0.190 (4-17)   6-19
319   5.913   36   St. Olaf   0.261 (6-17)   6-19
320   5.909   45   Tri-State   0.227 (5-17)   5-19
321   5.895   36   Haverford   0.263 (5-14)   6-18
322   5.889   41   Peace   0.278 (5-13)   9-17
323   5.870   42   Louisiana College   0.304 (7-16)   8-16
324   5.810   58   St. Joseph (Conn.)   0.333 (7-14)   7-18
325   5.800   37   St. Mary's (Minn.)   0.280 (7-18)   7-18
326   5.760   38   Macalester   0.280 (7-18)   7-18
327   5.750   37   Wesley   0.250 (6-18)   7-18
328   5.739   38   Lycoming   0.261 (6-17)   8-17
329   5.700   46   Grove City   0.200 (4-16)   5-20
330   5.667   39   Willamette   0.167 (3-15)   5-20
331   5.667   47   Oberlin   0.238 (5-16)   7-19
332   5.652   43   Schreiner   0.261 (6-17)   6-19
333   5.650   43   Webster   0.250 (5-15)   6-19
334   5.636   36   Brooklyn   0.318 (7-15)   9-16
335   5.600   44   Huntingdon   0.250 (5-15)   8-18
336   5.600   31   Vassar   0.150 (3-17)   6-18
337   5.583   59   Massachusetts College   0.391 (9-14)   10-16
338   5.583   60   Framingham State   0.292 (7-17)   7-17
339   5.522   39   Wilkes   0.174 (4-19)   6-19
340   5.500   40   Pacific   0.125 (2-14)   8-17
341   5.500   41   Nebraska Wesleyan   0.000 (0-6)   4-22
342   5.476   40   Rosemont   0.238 (5-16)   8-16
343   5.455   44   Elmhurst   0.182 (4-18)   6-19
344   5.429   37   Goucher   0.143 (3-18)   4-20
345   5.400   61   Anna Maria   0.280 (7-18)   7-18
346   5.381   45   Emory and Henry   0.190 (4-17)   8-17
347   5.318   32   Plattsburgh State   0.182 (4-18)   6-19
348   5.300   62   Daniel Webster   0.300 (6-14)   8-15
349   5.286   38   Ramapo   0.143 (3-18)   6-19
350   5.227   46   Sul Ross State   0.227 (5-17)   6-18
351   5.200   39   Hood   0.250 (5-15)   5-18
352   5.200   63   St. Joseph's (Maine)   0.333 (5-10)   10-15
353   5.182   48   Bluffton   0.227 (5-17)   6-19
354   5.182   33   Polytechnic   0.227 (5-17)   6-19
355   5.158   45   Maranatha Baptist   0.158 (3-16)   8-17
356   5.150   49   Hiram   0.200 (4-16)   6-19
357   5.080   64   Mass-Dartmouth   0.160 (4-21)   5-21
358   5.045   34   Alfred   0.091 (2-20)   4-21
359   5.042   65   Lesley   0.250 (6-18)   7-18
360   5.000   46   Clarke   0.342 (6-12)   7-16
361   5.000   47   Westminster (Mo.)   0.250 (4-12)   8-17
362   5.000   66   Green Mountain   0.250 (3-9)   9-16
363   5.000   67   MIT   0.174 (4-19)   4-20
364   4.957   48   Augustana   0.130 (3-20)   4-21
365   4.895   42   Pomona-Pitzer   0.105 (2-17)   5-20
366   4.880   68   Regis (Mass.)   0.200 (5-20)   5-20
367   4.880   69   Gordon   0.200 (5-20)   5-20
368   4.875   50   Earlham   0.125 (3-21)   4-22
369   4.826   51   Penn State-Altoona   0.217 (5-18)   6-19
370   4.800   41   Swarthmore   0.100 (2-18)   4-20
371   4.800   70   Wellesley   0.100 (2-18)   4-19
372   4.765   43   Caltech   0.118 (2-15)   3-22
373   4.750   44   Martin Luther   0.167 (2-10)   4-21
374   4.720   52   La Roche   0.200 (5-20)   5-20
375   4.714   47   Rust   0.143 (2-12)   2-12
376   4.696   40   St. Joseph's (L.I.)   0.087 (2-21)   2-23
377   4.647   48   North Carolina Wesleyan   0.118 (2-15)   4-21
378   4.600   71   Pine Manor   0.200 (5-20)   5-20
379   4.591   49   Millsaps   0.136 (3-19)   3-20
380   4.591   53   Kalamazoo   0.136 (3-19)   3-22
381   4.500   54   Chatham   0.250 (5-15)   8-19
382   4.478   49   MacMurray   0.174 (4-19)   6-19
383   4.455   41   Gallaudet   0.091 (2-20)   3-22
384   4.429   72   Albertus Magnus   0.190 (4-17)   5-17
385   4.412   55   Hanover   0.059 (1-16)   3-21
386   4.381   50   Randolph-Macon Woman's   0.095 (2-19)   2-22
387   4.364   50   Dominican   0.091 (2-20)   3-22
388   4.364   73   Smith   0.091 (2-20)   3-22
389   4.333   74   Southern Vermont   0.222 (4-14)   4-19
390   4.261   42   Eastern   0.130 (3-20)   3-22
391   4.238   51   Blackburn   0.095 (2-19)   3-22
392   4.217   45   Augsburg   0.043 (1-22)   1-24
393   4.190   51   Hollins   0.048 (1-20)   1-23
394   4.143   56   Marietta   0.000 (0-21)   2-23
395   4.133   52   Wesleyan (Ga.)   0.067 (1-14)   1-22
396   4.091   53   Texas Lutheran   0.045 (1-21)   1-24
397   4.045   52   Knox   0.091 (2-20)   2-21
398   4.043   53   Alverno   0.043 (1-22)   2-23
399   4.000   42   York (N.Y.)   0.091 (2-20)   3-21
400   4.000   75   Eastern Nazarene   0.160 (4-21)   4-21
401   3.917   76   Bay Path   0.083 (2-22)   2-22
402   3.900   54   LeTourneau   0.050 (1-19)   4-21
403   3.857   55   Meredith   0.143 (2-12)   4-19
404   3.826   35   Hilbert   0.087 (2-21)   2-22
405   3.760   77   Wheelock   0.040 (1-24)   1-24
406   3.700   46   Crown   0.000 (0-10)   4-20
407   3.643   36   New Rochelle   0.214 (3-11)   6-14
408   3.563   37   Russell Sage   0.063 (1-15)   1-18
409   3.545   43   CCNY   0.000 (0-22)   0-24
410   3.538   56   Fisk   0.077 (1-12)   1-16
411   3.389   43   Cedar Crest   0.000 (0-18)   1-19
412   3.250   38   Bard   0.050 (1-19)   2-20
413   2.917   78   Newbury   0.000 (0-24)   0-25
414   2.714   44   Wilson   0.000 (0-14)   3-21
415   2.000   45   SUNY-Maritime   0.000 (0-2)   0-7

2007-08 Women's Division III Basketball Handbook (http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/basketball/2008/2008_d3_w_basketball_handbook.pdf)

Pool A = 39
Pool B = 3
Pool C = 21

63 bids this year.

Unfortunately the Women's Handbook does not list the Pool B candidates.

We know of the Northern Athletics Conference, the Landmark 8 and the full members of the UMAC which are in Pool B.

The remaining Pool B's include Chapman, UC Santa Cruz, and the University of Dallas, among others.

There are only 3 Pool B bids for the women, because the access ratio that determines the number of Pool B bids is higher for the women.  The access ratio is determined by dividing the number of schools in Pool A conferences by the number of Pool A conferences.  This access ratio is 9.615 in 2008 (375 Pool A schools divided by 39 Pool A conferences.  The Great South AC is the "female" only conference.) 

37 divided by 9.615 is 3.8481 which is truncated to 3.

(The access ratio for the men is 344 divided by 38 = 9.29.  Thirty-eight divided by 9.29 = 4.0904, which is truncated to 4 Pool B bids.)

Next year, the 13-member Northern Athletics Conference should move to Pool A.  That should take a bid from Pool B.  We will need to see what other changes in Pool B occur, but there is a chance that there will only be 2 Pool B bids in 2008-09.

Heres' the best list that I can put together:

Landmark 8 schools
Northern Athletics 13 schools (including Alverno as women-only)
UMAC 3 schools eligible (Martin Luther, Northland, St. Scholastica)

Independents also on Men's List:
Newbury
Green Mountain
Southern Vermont
Lincoln
Dallas
Fisk
Rust
Chapman
Nebraska Wesleyan
UC Santa Cruz

Women's-only Independents
New Rochelle
Saint Elizabeth's
Trinity DC

That's 37, with the same question on Lincoln as we have on the men's side (are they still eligible despite reclassifying).

Under Pool A, the handbook lists 375 schools. But didn't Maritime drop basketball?

There are 3 Pool B bids for the Women in 2007-08.  Here are the early contenders, especially those teams from the new conferences that pabegg identified.

Atlantic Region:
St Elizabeth NJ (http://www.d3hoops.com/school/SELZ/womens/2008) IND (8-4 overall/ 7-4 in-region)

Mid-Atlantic Region:
Moravian (http://www.d3hoops.com/school/MRVN/womens/2008) LAND (8-3 /7-2)

Central Region:
Rockford (http://www.d3hoops.com/school/ROCK/womens/2008) NATHC (8-2/ 8-2)

West Region:
Chapman (http://www.d3hoops.com/school/CHAP/womens/2008) IND (13-3 /10-3)

Corrections and contributions are appreciated.

St Elizabeth is on the bubble in this list.  I think that Chapman is a lock, especially with their quality of play this year.  The NATHC probably gets one bid and the Landmark Conference gets the third bid over the runner-up from the NATHC (and not necessarily the NATHC tourney winner.)

I think we're overstating St. Elizabeth's chances.

Ralph, probably a pretty good assesment last week...however, things can change pretty quickly this time of year. Don't count Scranton's Lady Royals out just yet. The conference games are heating up so this should be a fun couple of weeks. I can't remember the last time Scranton wasn't a lock for the NCAA's...same for Bowdoin. That said, Pat is correct...I could care less what St. Liz's record might be...they are lightyears away from the schedule the Lady Royals play. For example, Team "A" defeated St. Elizabeth by 29 points recently & that very same team was knocked off by Scranton by 24 points. I fully realize that on any given night etc. etc. however, I'd take my chances on the Lady Royals prevailing in 99 out of 100 games with them...down year & all. The QOWI will bear this out...in the meantime, I guess the kids should still lace them up & see what happens on the court. ;)

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 10, 2008, 10:29:47 PM
I think we're overstating St. Elizabeth's chances.

Yeah, but I believed that I owed those players the acknowledgment of the current status.   ;)  They have a weak schedule, and they have lost another game this week.    St Elizabeth did beat Maine-Presque Isle, 66-52. (http://www.umpi.maine.edu/cms/athletics/wbasketball/wbb_schedule-2004110148/) :-\

Scranton is one of 4 teams that have 2-1 Landmark Conference records.  I will come back to this page after another week to see who has improved their chances

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 06, 2008, 09:28:35 PM
There are 3 Pool B bids for the Women in 2007-08.  Here are the early contenders, especially those teams from the new conferences that pabegg identified.

Atlantic Region:
St Elizabeth NJ (http://www.d3hoops.com/school/SELZ/womens/2008) IND (8-4 overall/ 7-4 in-region)

Mid-Atlantic Region:
Moravian (http://www.d3hoops.com/school/MRVN/womens/2008) LAND (8-3 /7-2)

Central Region:
Rockford (http://www.d3hoops.com/school/ROCK/womens/2008) NATHC (8-2/ 8-2)

West Region:
Chapman (http://www.d3hoops.com/school/CHAP/womens/2008) IND (13-3 /10-3)

Corrections and contributions are appreciated.

St Elizabeth is on the bubble in this list.  I think that Chapman is a lock, especially with their quality of play this year.  The NATHC probably gets one bid and the Landmark Conference gets the third bid over the runner-up from the NATHC (and not necessarily the NATHC tourney winner.)

Rockford (NAthCon) lost at Dominican last night, 72-69.

I think scranton probably goes into the strong contenders list too. 14-5, 8-1 in league.

Pool B update for the women (3 bids in 2008):


Team/ Conf/ Overall/ In-region
Mid-Atlanic Region:
Scranton LAND  14-5  13-4  (LAND Tourney)

Central Region:
Rockford  NATHC 15-6 14-4  (NATHC Tourney)
WI Luth   NATHC 14-7 13-6  (NATHC Tourney)

West Region:
Chapman IND 19-3 15-3  (Association of D-III Independents Tourney)

All other contenders that I found had winning percentages below .667 and insufficient games remaining to boost the winning percentage.

    If Moravian, Juniata, and/or Merchant Marine win out, they would have records of 17-8, which is higher than .667.

Quote from: ronk on February 09, 2008, 10:46:13 PM
If Moravian, Juniata, and/or Merchant Marine win out, they would have records of 17-8, which is higher than .667.

Hello, ronk!

Since there are only 3 Pool B bids, I don't think that the Landmark Conference gets more than one Pool B bid.  (Am I correct that there is a post-season tourney?)

We don't have OWP or OOWP for these schools, and it is the in-region winning percentage that we consider.

  Ah,yes,the in-region winning percentage-but I haven't seen the Landmark assigned a region yet;does that mean the region for a school is the one they were in last year(Atlantic - Goucher,Catholic; Mid-Atlantic-Scranton,Moravian,Juniata,Susquehanna,Drew) and Merchant Marine(guessing East or Atlantic)? Might as well get these policy questions out in the open,so there are no surprises.
  Yes the Landmark is having a conference 4-team playoff, although I, personally, would be in favor of skipping it for at least the 2 years where it doesn't have the AQ reward.

Quote from: ronk on February 10, 2008, 12:46:19 AM
  Ah,yes,the in-region winning percentage-but I haven't seen the Landmark assigned a region yet;does that mean the region for a school is the one they were in last year(Atlantic - Goucher,Catholic; Mid-Atlantic-Scranton,Moravian,Juniata,Susquehanna,Drew) and Merchant Marine(guessing East or Atlantic)? Might as well get these policy questions out in the open,so there are no surprises.
  Yes the Landmark is having a conference 4-team playoff, although I, personally, would be in favor of skipping it for at least the 2 years where it doesn't have the AQ reward.

Ronk, for the Landmark Conference members, the Handbook has all eight assigned to the Middle Atlantic Region, e.g., Capital, Commonwealth, Freedom, Centennial, PnAC, etc.  Also please remember the Administrative Regions (#2 being NY and PA, #1 being DC, MD, DE, NJ, and New England) and the 200-mile radius limit.

2008 Men's Handbook (http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/basketball/2008/2008_d3_m_basketball_handbook.pdf)

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My bad.

http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/basketball/2008/2008_d3_w_basketball_handbook.pdf]2008 Women's Handbook

Unfortunately, the Women's Handbook is not as descriptive or as clear in designating the evaluation regions as the men's.

Click on Division III, click on Women's Soccer (http://web1.ncaa.org/onlineDir/exec/sponsorship)
It looks like the landmark is in the Mid-Atlantic, except Merchant Marine which is in the Atlantic Region.

Ralph,
   Since this is the women's side, their handbook says that members of the Landmark will be placed in their natural geographic region, but it doesn't define what that is. Is it the NCAA admin region(1 for Catholic,Goucher, and Drew and 2 for the rest of the members) or something else?
    It also states the primary selection criteria will be regional competition. Only in the secondary criteria is the record versus all D3 teams including out-of-region. This is backwards when you're choosing for a national tournament. For example, a couple years ago, Scranton played Simpson and Baldwin-Wallace(2 good teams) on a neutral court in Las Vegas; I submit those 2 games were better evidence of the relative merits of being selected to a national tournament than regional considerations.
   All of this is a preamble to my real concern - how does the 2nd best team in the region convince the committee that they're better than the #1 teams in the other regions for the pool B(and, by extension, pool C) selection when the primary criteria is regional?

Quote from: ronk on February 10, 2008, 03:42:24 PM
Ralph,
   Since this is the women's side, their handbook says that members of the Landmark will be placed in their natural geographic region, but it doesn't define what that is. Is it the NCAA admin region(1 for Catholic,Goucher, and Drew and 2 for the rest of the members) or something else?
    It also states the primary selection criteria will be regional competition. Only in the secondary criteria is the record versus all D3 teams including out-of-region. This is backwards when you're choosing for a national tournament. For example, a couple years ago, Scranton played Simpson and Baldwin-Wallace(2 good teams) on a neutral court in Las Vegas; I submit those 2 games were better evidence of the relative merits of being selected to a national tournament than regional considerations.
   All of this is a preamble to my real concern - how does the 2nd best team in the region convince the committee that they're better than the #1 teams in the other regions for the pool B(and, by extension, pool C) selection when the primary criteria is regional?

Ahh, Ronk!  The D-III conundrum.  ::)  ;D  ;)

Seriously, I assume that Pat Coleman has assigned the respective Landmark Conference teams to their respective regions.  It is not unusual for a conference to have members in more than one region, e.g., the UAA, the SCAC, the North East AC.

As we mortals understand the selection process in the ultimate smoke-filled room, the teams are regionally ranked. (The first regional rankings come out on Wednesday)  The Pool A bids are taken off the table and everyone left is moved up.

They then look at the eight teams on the table and look for the best "Pool B team" using the criteria that are listed in the Handbook.  That team is taken off with a Pool B bid.  The teams are then re-evaluated and the second Pool B team is awarded a bid.  The teams are re-evaluated and the process occurs again.

The remaining teams in the country are the considered for the at-large (Pool C bids) on a one-by-one basis until all Pool C bids are awarded.

I am becoming more comfortable with the process, having seen it working now for 5-6 seasons in multiple sports.

In fact, I will bet that the "over-under" on the correct picks that Pat Coleman can make in the final hour before the selections are announced is 62 (of the 63 women's picks).

The brackets are then filled, remembering to consider geographic proximity.

The regional alignment of Landmark Conference teams is as follows:
Atlantic: Catholic, Goucher, Merchant Marine
Mid-Atlantic: Drew, Juniata, Moravian, Scranton, Susquehanna

Source:
http://web1.ncaa.org/onlineDir/exec/sponsorship?sortOrder=1&division=3&sport=WBB

(On the men's side, MMA is Atlantic and the other seven are Mid-Atlantic, per the men's handbook and
http://web1.ncaa.org/onlineDir/exec/sponsorship?sortOrder=1&division=3&sport=MBB)

  Ok, thanks, that's the way it was last year when they were in different conferences. Let's see what the 1st regional rankings show on Wednesday.

From the Daily Dose  (3 bids are awarded) --

Women's basketball
In-region record, followed by overall record

Central Region
No NATHC team is ranked in the Central Region.

Mid-Atlantic Region

3. Scranton 15-4 16-5  (Landmark Conference)

West Region

4. Chapman 13-3 20-3  (Independent)

I would suggest the Scranton and Chapman are virtual Pool B locks, while the third bid will come down to the top NATHC team or the #2 in the Landmark.  None of the NATHC teams look like particularily strong contenders right now, although I imagine if Concordia Wisconsin would win the regular season and the NATHC tournament that should give them the third bid.

Programming note...

D3hoops.com will broadcast Saturday's Scranton/Moravian doubleheader live from Johnston Hall in Bethlehem...

5:30 pm - Women: Scranton Royals versus Moravian Greyhounds
7:30 pm - Men: Scranton Royals versus Moravian Greyhounds

The broadcast will be available at www.d3hoops.com/audio starting with pregame coverage 10 minutes before tipoff.

As 2008 winds down, here are the moves that we anticipate in Pool B in 2008-09.

New England Collegiate Conference (NECC):  9 members-- Five teams move out of the North Atlantic Conference (Bay Path, Becker, Elms, Lesley and Wheelock) to join Daniel Webster from the GNAC and the independents Mitchell (a fourth-year provisional in 2008-09), Newbury and Southern Vermont.  At the earliest, this conference will get a Pool A in 2010-11.

Landmark Conference (LAND):  8 members spend one more year in Pool B.

Upper Midwest AC (UMAC):  7 members.  This includes 3 established members (St Scholastica, Northland and Martin Luther) and four new members coming from D-II (UMinn-Morris) and Provisional status (Bethany Lutheran, Crown and Northwestern).  The UMAC should get Pool A in 2010-11.

Independents:  8 members, including New Rochelle NY (East), St Elizabeths NJ and Trinity DC (Atlantic), Rust and UDallas (South), Chapman, UC Santa Cruz and Neb Wesleyan (West).

New independents completing provisional status in August 2008:  2 members -- UMaine-Presque Isle and Salem NC.

I count 34 Pool B schools.  The access ratio probably means that there will be 3 Pool B bids in 2008-09.  There are 10 new schools anticipated in D-III in 2008-09, which means one new bid (64 bids total). 

Northern Athletics Conference (NATHC):  12 13 members move to Pool A in 2008-09.

I anticipate 40 Pool A bids, 3 Pool B bids and 21 Pool C bids.

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Corrections are greatly appreciated.  Thanks to Just Bill for catching Alverno in the NATHC.

The NATHC actually has 13 members on the women's side (Alverno).

Edgewood College knocked Concordia Univ. Wisconsin out of the NATHC semifinals, 72-70 in OT.

Will that knock CUW out of Pool B?  Does Juniata need to beat Scranton today to get that spot?

Edgewood--in turn--lost to WLC-- in the NAthCon final.

Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 02, 2008, 10:17:44 AM
Edgewood--in turn--lost to WLC-- in the NAthCon final.

Yes, but neither Edgewood or WLC is in the Pool B discussion anyway.

It's official!

In alphabetical order, Chapman, Juniata and Scranton.

Pool B outcomes in 2008:

Chapman -- LOST at Puget Sound: To (Pool C) George Fox 55-71.

Juniata -- LOST at Baldwin Wallace: To Hope 47-76

Scranton-- Hosted and LOST: To Medaille 54-56.

Record vs Pool A -- 0-2.
Record vs Pool C -- 0-1.

Ralph,
   Would you do a Pool B report for the women like you recently did on the men's side? I was surprised to see Elms as a new pool B candidate for the men and as a victor over Scranton in the NCAA last year, they would be a strong candidate this year, effectively reducing the available spots to 2. Wondering if there are any similar possibilities on the women's side.

Quote from: ronk on November 24, 2008, 11:33:14 PM
Ralph,
   Would you do a Pool B report for the women like you recently did on the men's side? I was surprised to see Elms as a new pool B candidate for the men and as a victor over Scranton in the NCAA last year, they would be a strong candidate this year, effectively reducing the available spots to 2. Wondering if there are any similar possibilities on the women's side.

Certainly!

Later tonight.   :)

Of course the Handbook has not been released, but I will give my best effort.

My lunch meeting canceled.  ;)

My first look thru D3hoops.com's regional listing shows these Pool B candidates.  I count 34 teams.  The access ratio in 2007-08 was 9.615 and I don't think that will change too much in 2008-09.  That gives 3 bids.  The real question is whether we get another bid budgeted for the women, because we added 9 new programs (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=35164) in basketball this year.  (The NCAA funds one bid for every 6.5 participants up to 64.)  If so, we will have a full 64-team bracket.

Northeast (10) -- NECC has 9 teams.  (The NECC should be Pool A in 2010-11.)  UM-Presque Isle.
East (1) -- New Rochelle.
Atlantic (10) -- LAND-8, St Elizabeth, Trinity DC.   (Landmark Conference gets it Pool A in 2009-10. St Elizabeth joins the NEAC in 2009-10.)
Mid-Atlantic -- (0)
South (2) -- Rust and Salem.
Great Lakes -- (0)
Central (1) -- Finlandia
West (10) -- UMAC-7 Chapman, Neb Wesleyan, UC Santa Cruz.  (UMAC should get its Pool A bid in 2010-11.)

Ralph,
  Thanks for the timely effort, and if the NCAA funds the extra bid(because of the nine new programs), I assume it'll belong to pool C?

I think that the new bid will go to Pool A NATHC.

They take a bid from Pool B and the new schools add a bid to the Pool.  The allocation just works out for Pool B to keep 3 bids.


I think that the Landmark's bid in 2009-10 comes from Pool B.

In 2010-11, I think that one bid from Pool B and the other comes from Pool C to the UMAC and NECC.

Women's Handbook (http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/basketball/2009/3_wbasketball_handbook.pdf) is out.  Three Pool B bids this season.

34 Pool B teams and 419 teams qualified for the championship.

40 Pool A bids
20 Pool C bids

I will do some double-checking.   :)

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 25, 2008, 02:01:12 PM
(The NCAA funds one bid for every 6.5 participants up to 64.)  If so, we will have a full 64-team bracket.

Looks like they don't do it for the women, since 416 or more participants would equate to a full 64 team field.

Quote from: ronk on December 08, 2008, 11:14:22 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 25, 2008, 02:01:12 PM
(The NCAA funds one bid for every 6.5 participants up to 64.)  If so, we will have a full 64-team bracket.

Looks like they don't do it for the women, since 416 or more participants would equate to a full 64 team field.

It does, doesn't it! 

I have "personal messaged" Pat Coleman about this.   ;)

The women will get their 64th bid in 2009-10.

   And the reason that it doesn't happen this season is....?

Quote from: ronk on December 17, 2008, 11:23:49 PM
   And the reason that it doesn't happen this season is....?

I don't know, and I did not think to inquire at the time I asked the question.  :-\

Ralph,
   Thanks for the info that you did find; just looking for the NCAA to follow thru on their professed guidelines; unhappy when the rules change after the game starts somewhat like Bud Selig changing the rules of baseball for the World Series.

Ronk, there may be a guideline that delays the change in the number of bids by a year or two.  I know that we have seen the slow expansion of the brackets over the years.

Independent College of St Elizabeth, Morristown NJ (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2008-09-12) is joining the NEAC in 2009-10.

One less Pool B team next year.

EDIT:  I clarified the post.  One less Pool B team.  I don't think that single change will change the number of bids.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 25, 2008, 02:01:12 PM
My lunch meeting canceled.  ;)

My first look thru D3hoops.com's regional listing shows these Pool B candidates.  I count 34 teams.  The access ratio in 2007-08 was 9.615 and I don't think that will change too much in 2008-09.  That gives 3 bids.  The real question is whether we get another bid budgeted for the women, because we added 9 new programs (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=35164) in basketball this year.  (The NCAA funds one bid for every 6.5 participants up to 64.)  If so, we will have a full 64-team bracket.

Northeast (10) -- NECC has 9 teams.  (The NECC should be Pool A in 2010-11.)  UM-Presque Isle.
East (1) -- New Rochelle.
Atlantic (10) -- LAND-8, St Elizabeth, Trinity DC.   (Landmark Conference gets it Pool A in 2009-10. St Elizabeth joins the NEAC in 2009-10.)
Mid-Atlantic -- (0)
South (2) -- Rust and Salem.
Great Lakes -- (0)
Central (1) -- Finlandia
West (10) -- UMAC-7 Chapman, Neb Wesleyan, UC Santa Cruz.  (UMAC should get its Pool A bid in 2010-11.)

Pool B in 2010-11 --   12 Teams -- Probably one Pool B bid.

Northeast (1) -- NECC has 9 teams. (The NECC should be Pool A in 2010-11.)  UM-Presque Isle.
East (1) -- New Rochelle.
Atlantic (1) -- LAND-8, St Elizabeth, Trinity DC.   (Landmark Conference gets it Pool A in 2009-10. St Elizabeth joins the NEAC in 2009-10.)
Mid-Atlantic -- (1)  Lancaster Bible  (unless they join the CSAC or NEAC).
South (2) -- Rust and Salem.
Great Lakes -- (0)
Central (1) -- Finlandia
West (5) -- UMAC-7 Chapman, Neb Wesleyan, UC Santa Cruz plus LaSierra and North Central MN  (UMAC should get its Pool A bid in 2010-11.)

Three Pool B bids in 2009.

Northeast (10) -- NECC-9.  UM-Presque Isle.  The NECC is very weak.  Daniel Webster is 4-3/3-3 in-region. (UMPI (http://owls.umpi.edu/womens-basketball/schedule) appears to be declaring for the NAIA Sunrise Conference.)
East (1) -- New Rochelle. 
Atlantic (10) -- LAND-8, St Elizabeth, Trinity DC.   (Moravian is 9-1/8-1; Susquehanna is 9-3/9-3; Catholic is 8-4/6-4.)
Mid-Atlantic -- (0)
South (2) -- Rust and Salem. (Neither are competitive.)
Great Lakes -- (0)
Central (1) -- Finlandia
West (10) -- UMAC-7 Chapman, Neb Wesleyan, UC Santa Cruz. Chapman is 10-6/8-5 with a good OWP/OOWP.  Northland from the UMAC is 6-5/6-5 with a loss to Chapman.

My first look at the women has:

1) Moravian
2) Susquehanna (9-3/9-3)
3) Scranton (7-3/7-3 with a loss to Moravian and in-region win over Kean)  (EDIT:  See Ronk's comments.  :) )
3) Catholic

Catholic and Chapman are on the radar.

Corrections and comments are appreciated.

Ralph,
   Thanks for the update; Scranton is 7-3 and I would rank them behind Moravian and ahead of Susquehanna because of SOS.

Quote from: ronk on January 04, 2009, 09:18:58 PM
Ralph,
   Thanks for the update; Scranton is 7-3 and I would rank them behind Moravian and ahead of Susquehanna because of SOS.

Ronk, thanks for the comment.  I did not check them out, down at 0-1 in conference.  Scranton is 7-3/7-3 in region, so I would put them ahead of Catholic.

That is a tough women's conference, so someone will be knocked out.  However, there might be 2 or three Pool B bids coming from the Landmark.

(Everyone in Pool B will be glad when the Landmark Conference moves to Pool A!)

Pool B update thru Jan 16th...

(I am getting this draft started this morning while I have time...)


As mentioned above, we have three Pool B bids in 2009.

Northeast (10) -- NECC-9.  UM-Presque Isle.  The NECC is very weak.  Fourth year "Provisional" Mitchell is leading the conference. (UMPI (http://owls.umpi.edu/womens-basketball/schedule) appears to be declaring for the NAIA Sunrise Conference.)
East (1) -- New Rochelle. 
Atlantic (10) -- LAND-8, St Elizabeth, Trinity DC.   (See below for the LAND breakout.)
Mid-Atlantic -- (0)
South (2) -- Rust and Salem. (Neither are competitive for the bid.)
Great Lakes -- (0)
Central (1) -- Finlandia
West (10) -- UMAC-7 Chapman, Neb Wesleyan, UC Santa Cruz. Chapman is 12-6/9-5 with a good OWP/OOWP.  MN-Morris is leading the UMAC.

Team........................	Conf...	In-reg...	Overall
1) Moravian	3-1	12-2	13-2
2) Scranton	3-1	10-4	10-4
3) Catholic	3-1	9-5	10-5
3*) Susquehanna	2-2	10-5	10-5

Chapman is on the radar, but there are four strong teams in the Landmark Conference.  We don't know if Chapman will be regionally ranked.

Corrections and comments are appreciated.

For those wondering about the Pool B precedent for so many bids coming from one conference, the Northwest Conference got four Pool B bids in 2000.

As you might expect, the NCAA put them all in one four-team "pod."

I wasn't as broken up by that as I might've been, though. See, the NWC didn't have a conference tournament at that time, so the NCAA funded one for them. And played it in the first two rounds of the NCAA playoffs. :)

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
Chapman is 12-6/9-5 with a good OWP/OOWP.
...

Chapman is on the radar, but there are four strong teams in the Landmark Conference.  We don't know if Chapman will be regionally ranked.

Chapman is 13-2 overall, 11-2 in-region.

OxyBob

Quote from: OxyBob on January 21, 2009, 02:03:51 AM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
Chapman is 12-6/9-5 with a good OWP/OOWP.
...

Chapman is on the radar, but there are four strong teams in the Landmark Conference.  We don't know if Chapman will be regionally ranked.

Chapman is 13-2 overall, 11-2 in-region.

OxyBob

Not in women's basketball.

Quote from: OxyBob on January 21, 2009, 02:03:51 AM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
Chapman is 12-6/9-5 with a good OWP/OOWP.
...

Chapman is on the radar, but there are four strong teams in the Landmark Conference.  We don't know if Chapman will be regionally ranked.

Chapman is 13-2 overall, 11-2 in-region.

Ack!

OxyBob

Quote from: OxyBob on January 21, 2009, 12:15:16 PM

Quote from: OxyBob on January 21, 2009, 02:03:51 AM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
Chapman is 12-6/9-5 with a good OWP/OOWP.
...

Chapman is on the radar, but there are four strong teams in the Landmark Conference.  We don't know if Chapman will be regionally ranked.

Chapman is 13-2 overall, 11-2 in-region.

Ack!

OxyBob

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So what do rust college women team look like for makin playoffs they beat lagrange today

Quote from: RustCollege on January 31, 2009, 09:04:18 PM
So what do rust college women team look like for makin playoffs they beat lagrange today

I calculate the in-region W/L record for Rust women at 3-8.
Nope!

Team..........	Conference	Region...	In-reg...	Overall
Scranton	LAND	Atl	15-4	15-4
Moravian	LAND	Atl	16-3	17- 3
Chapman	Indep	West	11-6	13-7
Susquehanna	LAND	Mid-Atl	12-8	12-8
Catholic	LAND	Atl	10-8	12-8

This may be a sweep for the Landmark Conference schools.  (Three bids are awarded.) Chapman does have 4 in-region games plus a 2-game tourney.

Regional rankings released:
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2009/02/11/ncaa-regional-rankings

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 11, 2009, 02:25:38 PM
Regional rankings released:
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2009/02/11/ncaa-regional-rankings

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 11, 2009, 05:23:08 PM
Women's regional rankings
Atlantic Region
1. York (Pa.) 20-1 20-1 CAC Pool A
2. Kean 16-3 18-4 NJAC Pool A
3. Mt. St. Mary (N.Y.) 16-3 16-4 SKY Pool A
4. The College of New Jersey 17-4 18-4 NJAC Pool C
5. Marymount (Va.) 16-3 17-4 CAC Pool C
6. Staten Island 15-3 17-5 CUNYAC Pool A

Central Region
1. Ill. Wesleyan 18-0 20-0 CCIW Pool A
2. UW-Stevens Point 18-2 19-2 WIAC Pool A
3. UW-Whitewater 16-3 18-3 WIAC Pool C
4. Washington U. 14-4 16-4 UAA Pool C (Pool A assigned to Rochester)
5. UW-Eau Claire 15-3 19-3 WIAC Pool C
6. St. Norbert 15-2 16-4 MWC Pool A

Concordia-WI has the best record in the NATHC.
Maryville MO leads the SLIAC.

East Region
1. Rochester 19-1 19-1 UAA Pool A
2. New York U. 17-3 17-3 UAA Pool C
3. Stevens 17-3 17-3 E8 Pool A
4. Union 15-2 15-5 LL Pool A
5. Cortland State 16-3 17-3 SUNYAC Pool A
6. Oneonta State 14-3 16-4 SUNYAC Pool C

D'Youville has the highest W/L Percentage in the NEAC.

Great Lakes Region
1. DePauw 11-2 19-3 SCAC Pool C (Pool A assigned to Oglethorpe)
2. Hope 14-1 18-1 MIAA Pool A
3. Washington and Jefferson 15-2 19-2 Pres AC Pool A
4. Thomas More 16-2 19-2 Pres AC Pool A
5. Capital 15-3 15-4 OAC Pool A
6. Baldwin-Wallace 13-4 16-5 OAC Pool C

Pitt-Greenburg leads the AMCC.
Anderson leads the HCAC.
Denison leads the NCAC.

Mid-Atlantic Region
1. Messiah 18-2 20-2 MACC Pool A
2. Moravian 16-4 18-4 LAND Pool B
3. Muhlenberg 18-3 18-3 CC Pool A
4. DeSales 17-4 17-4 MACF Pool A
5. Scranton 16-4 17-4 LAND Pool B
6. Cabrini 14-4 16-4 CSAC Pool A

Northeast Region
1. Amherst 20-1 21-1 NESCAC Pool A
2. Tufts 17-3 17-3 NESCAC Pool C
3. Brandeis 12-6 13-6 UAA Pool C
4. Bowdoin 17-4 18-4 NESCAC Pool C
5. Eastern Connecticut State 19-2 19-2 LEC Pool A
6. Western Connecticut State 16-3 17-3 LEC Pool C
7. Keene State 15-4 17-4 LEC Pool C
8. Nichols 19-2 19-2 CCC Pool A

Emmanuel leads the GNAC.
Husson leads the NAC.
Westfield State leads the MASCAC.
WPI leads the NEWMAC.

South Region
1. Oglethorpe 15-2 19-2 SCAC Pool A
2. Texas-Dallas 18-2 18-3 ASC Pool A
3. Greensboro 17-0 18-1 USAC Pool A
4. Roanoke 18-2 19-2 ODAC Pool A
5. McMurry 15-3 17-4 ASC Pool C
6. Mississippi College 17-3 18-3 ASC Pool C

Maryville TN leads the GSAC.

West Region
1. George Fox 16-0 21-0 NWC Pool A
2. St. Benedict 18-3 18-3 MIAC Pool A
3. Concordia-Moorhead 14-4 15-6 MIAC Pool C
4. Simpson 15-3 19-3 IIAC Pool A
5. La Verne 14-3 16-4 SCIAC Pool A
6. Chapman 13-6 16-7 Ind Pool B

The current "leaders" in all 40 women's conferences are identified.

This list accounts for all 3 Pool B bids, (Moravian, Scranton and Chapman).

There are also 18 Pool C teams in this Regional Ranking. (There are 20 Pool C bids in 2009.)

(Corrections appreciated.)

All three Pool B bids are spoken for.

Women's regional rankings  February 25th.
Records listed are in-region record, followed by overall record.
Atlantic Region
1. York (Pa.) 24-1 24-1
2. Mt. St. Mary (N.Y.) 21-3 21-4
3. TCNJ 20-4 21-4
4. Kean 18-5 20-6
5. Marymount (Va.) 19-4 20-5
6. Mary Washington 18-5 20-5

Central Region
1. Ill. Wesleyan 21-0 24-0
2. Washington U. 18-4 20-4
3. UW-Stevens Point 21-3 22-3
4. UW-Whitewater 20-3 22-3
5. UW-Eau Claire 17-4 21-4
6. St. Norbert 18-2 19-4

East Region
1. Rochester 21-3 21-3
2. New York U. 20-4 20-4
3. Cortland St. 21-3 22-3
4. Union 18-4 18-6
5. Oneonta St. 17-4 19-5
6. Ithaca 16-6 17-8

Great Lakes Region
1. Hope 18-1 22-1
2. Thomas More 19-2 23-2
3. DePauw 15-3 21-4
4. Wash. & Jeff. 18-3 22-3
5. Transylvania 18-3 20-5
6. Capital 18-4 18-5

Mid-Atlantic Region
1. Scranton 21-4 21-4
2. Moravian 18-5 20-5
3. Muhlenberg 22-3 22-3
4. DeSales 21-4 21-4
5. Messiah 20-3 22-3
6. Alvernia 16-6 17-8

Northeast Region
1. Amherst 23-1 24-1
2. Tufts 21-3 21-3
3. Brandeis 16-6 17-6
4. Bowdoin 20-4 21-4
5. Eastern Connecticut 23-2 23-2
6. Western Connecticut 19-4 20-4
7. Southern Maine 18-5 19-6
8. Keene State 17-6 19-6

South Region
1. Oglethorpe 17-3 22-3
2. Greensboro 23-0 24-1
3. Texas-Dallas 21-3 21-4
4. Mississippi College 21-3 22-3
5. Roanoke 20-3 22-3
6. Randolph-Macon 17-4 20-5

West Region
1. George Fox 20-0 25-0
2. St. Benedict 22-3 22-3
3. Simpson 18-3 22-3
4. Concordia-Moorhead 17-5 18-7
5. St. Thomas 18-7 18-7
6. Redlands 18-6 19-6

Chapman has fallen out of the rankings, but they are the only other Pool B that has been listed.

Bumblin' B's versus the tourney:

Chapman beat SCIAC Pool A Oxy 70-65 (OT)
Lost at George Fox  40-83.

Scranton beat NEAC Pool A Keuka 73-42
Beat Cortland State 51-45
Plays York PA

Moravian lost to Tufts 80-70.

(Current record 3-2)

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Scranton beat Pool C York PA 60-46
Lost to Pool A TCNJ 54-48 in the Elite 8.

Final record for Pool B -- 4-3.

Landmark Conference members Scranton and Moravian move to Pool A next year.

Projected Pool B for 2009-10.  I count 27  26.  If the access ratio is greater than 9.00, then this means there will be 2 bids.

Northeast (10) -- NECC has 9 teams.  (The NECC should be Pool A in 2010-11.)  UM-Presque Isle.
East (1) -- New Rochelle.
Atlantic (1) -- LAND-8, St Elizabeth Trinity DC.   (Landmark Conference gets it Pool A in 2009-10. St Elizabeth joins the NEAC in 2009-10.)
Mid-Atlantic -- (0)
South (2  1 ) -- Rust and Salem.
Great Lakes -- (0)
Central (2) -- Finlandia, Mount Mary* (*Mount Mary is currently 4th-year repeat provisional for 2008-09.)
West (11) -- UMAC-8, Chapman, Neb Wesleyan, UC Santa Cruz.  (Presentation becomes a full member. UMAC should get its Pool A bid in 2010-11.)

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EDIT:  Salem (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+iii/gsac+approves+membership+for+salem_05_15_09_ncaa_news) has been invited to join the GSAC.  That should make 26 teams, which will give 2 Pool B bids.   -- 16 May 2009

Salem (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+iii/gsac+approves+membership+for+salem_05_15_09_ncaa_news) joins the GSAC.

QuoteGSAC institutions will adjust individual sports schedules to include Salem during the 2009-10 season. Qualification for postseason play will depend on the scheduling criteria of individual sports and, in some cases, may have to be delayed until the following year.

Women's 2010 Handbook (http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/basketball/2010/10_3_wbasketball.pdf)

4 Pool B bids are mentioned.  However, there are only 26 Pool B schools noted and the access ratio is 1:9.634.

There should be 2 more Pool C bids and 2 fewer Pool B bids.

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The women's handbook is not as well organized as the men's.  (Corrections are appreciated.)

Here are the 25 Pool B teams.

The UMAC-8
The NECC-9
New Rochelle
Trinity DC
Rust
Finlandia
Mount Mary
Chapman
UC Santa Cruz
Neb Wesleyan.

This season, St Elizabeth has joined the NEAC and Salem has joined the GSAC.

Adding those 2 schools to Pool A conferences changes the access ratio to (397 schools divided by 41 Pool A  conferences =) 9.683.

That would require 30 Pool B schools to allocate 3 Pool B bids and 39 Pool  B schools for 4 Pool B bids.

The Handbook does mention that 2 schools have declared for the NAIA championship.  I assume that Menlo is one. I can only guess that Neb Wesleyan is the other.  The NAIA website does not suggest that tho'.

http://graphics.fansonly.com/schools/naia/member-services/championships/Qualifcation_Plans/qual_plans_pdf/qual_WBB_DII.pdf

Four Pool B's is an increase of one, right? Does that pass the Ralph Turner test?

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2009, 10:51:19 PM
Four Pool B's is an increase of one, right? Does that pass the Ralph Turner test?

Thanks for the shout-out.

I don't think that it does.  Please see the previous post.

NAIA Participating Schools. (http://graphics.fansonly.com/schools/naia/member-services/championships/Qualifcation_Plans/qual_plans_pdf/qual_WBB_DII.pdf)

Props to Gregory Sager who have found UMPI is competing in NAIA this year.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 14, 2009, 11:06:06 PM
NAIA Participating Schools. (http://graphics.fansonly.com/schools/naia/member-services/championships/Qualifcation_Plans/qual_plans_pdf/qual_WBB_DII.pdf)

Props to Gregory Sager who have found UMPI is competing in NAIA this year.

Does this mean we can't follow their men's team in their quest for a W?

Once again, Ralph Turner affects positive change.

QuoteThe pool allocations for 2009-10 Division III Women's Basketball were listed incorrectly in the handbook.  The handbook will be updated today with the correct information, which is listed below.



2009-10 Division III Women's Basketball Sponsorship Data

Division III institutions sponsoring women's basketball:  437

Provisional institutions (not eligible for the championship):  14

Declared NAIA (not eligible for the NCAA championship):  2

Institutions eligible for NCAA championship:  421

Conferences meeting automatic qualifying requirements:  41

Eligible teams in automatic-qualifying conferences:  395

Great facts to know.  I've often said to kids as they make it to the tourney that 200 other teams would like the chance you have.  Had no idea that it was 421.  Shows again what an honor it is to make it to the NCAA's.  Certainly nothing to take for granted.....nor is any tournament win.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 16, 2009, 06:02:46 PM
Once again, Ralph Turner affects positive change.

QuoteThe pool allocations for 2009-10 Division III Women's Basketball were listed incorrectly in the handbook.  The handbook will be updated today with the correct information, which is listed below.



2009-10 Division III Women's Basketball Sponsorship Data

Division III institutions sponsoring women's basketball:  437

Provisional institutions (not eligible for the championship):  14

Declared NAIA (not eligible for the NCAA championship):  2

Institutions eligible for NCAA championship:  421

Conferences meeting automatic qualifying requirements:  41

Eligible teams in automatic-qualifying conferences:  395

Thanks!

I appreciate all that these sites do for us fans.

Pool A = 41 bids
Pool B = 2 bids
Pool C = 21 bids.  (The full bracket of 64 bids.)

No Pool B teams were present in the Regional Rankings.

Northwestern MN (UMAC) is 11-8 overall /11-8 in-region /6-2 conference.  The games against the WIAC and MIAC and IIAC schools will help the OWP/OOWP.  (.408 OWP/ .480 OOWP/ .432 SOS)

Chapman (independent) is 11-10/9-8.  They have a good win over UTDallas.  (.502 OWP/ .508 OOWP/ .504 SOS)

NECC is led by Daniel Webster 14-4/14-4/9-0.   (.420 OWP/ .480 OOWP/ .432).  They are likely to run the table and end up with an in-region record of 21-4 and then move to 23-4 with a conference tourney win.

I am thinking the Daniel Webster has the best shot a Pool B bid at this time, just because of winning percentage.

Chapman has played better opponents, so that might be in their favor.

I don't have access to the deeper data, but those three seem to be the best in Pool B.

Comments appreciated.

As a west coaster...it would be quite sad if Chapman got in the tourney this year.  They have only two victories over teams with winning records!  Sure the win over UT-Dallas was impressive. But, the only other team they've beat with a winning record is Dallas (15-12). 

BlueZoneBruin

Quote from: BlueZoneBruin on February 28, 2010, 12:55:22 AM
As a west coaster...it would be quite sad if Chapman got in the tourney this year.  They have only two victories over teams with winning records!  Sure the win over UT-Dallas was impressive. But, the only other team they've beat with a winning record is Dallas (15-12). 

BlueZoneBruin

That is the nature of Pool B.  Pool B has been where new conferences can get access to the tourney on their way to the Pool A.  Last year, the talented Landmark Conference teams got Pool B bids.

There may be only one Pool B bid next season.

Northland and Minnesota-Morris both of the UMAC get Pool B's. Stragnely enough neither of them even reached the championship game of their conference tournament.  Sad year for Pool B.

Quote from: Just Bill on March 01, 2010, 02:26:37 PM
Northland and Minnesota-Morris both of the UMAC get Pool B's. Stragnely enough neither of them even reached the championship game of their conference tournament.  Sad year for Pool B.

Massey Ratings ...

Chapman 905
MN Morris 911
Northland 1019

Both Pool B's are out by 7:15 central time on opening night.

Quote from: Just Bill on March 05, 2010, 08:30:03 PM
Both Pool B's are out by 7:15 central time on opening night.

Summary of the 2010 Pool B's:

UW-Stevens Point 86, MN Morris 64  (at St Norbert)
Carthage  73, Northland 60  (at UW-Whitewater)

One Pool B Bid in 2010-11

Handbook (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/champ_handbooks/basketball/2011/11_3_wbasketball.pdf) says that there are 12 Pool B schools, but it does not list the Pool B's in any format.  


Here are the Pool 12 B teams that I find.


U Maine - Presque Isle (Are they declaring for the NAIA this season?)  (Northeast Region)

New Rochelle (East Region)

Trinity DC (Atlantic)

GSAC-4 (Huntingdon, LaGrange, Maryville, Piedmont)  GSAC Women have the Pool A bid.

Rust  (South Region)
UDallas (going to the SCAC in 2011-12)  South Region

Lancaster Bible (Mid-Atlantic Region)

None from the Great Lakes Region

Finlandia  Central Region
Mount Mary Central Region

West Region teams (4)
Nebraska Wesleyan
Chapman, and Chapman is running away with Pool B.
UC Santa Cruz
North Central University (MN)  

I would appreciate if someone could enlighten me why Neb Wes is listed as an Independent on their D3 home page, but show a conference record. Still also NAIA?

Additionally, Covenant is listed under the D3 Independents , with their home page on D3 showing them a member of the NESCAC.

I am trying to figure out who falls into the Pool B pool this year. Any help is appreciated, Ralph emailed me earlier the teams he thought were Pool B. And I did appreciate that, but it did not include Covenant, but did include Neb Wes, who earlier handed Chapman a defeat in Colorado Springs during a Colorado College Tourney.

Also, I am trying to figure out why the SCIAC Women's board includes Chapman, but the Men's  SCIAC board does not. I emailed Pat, but apparently he is busy.

The message boards seemed to lump Chapman with the SCIAC for the women, even tho' they are not members.  They and UC Santa Cruz are the only West Region independents now.


Neb Wes is in the Great Plains AC.  The Conference record is what the PrestoSports.com software program is seeing.  Prestosports.com may not have written the code for the program that designates whether NebWes is a dual member of NAIA and NCAA.

As for Women's Pool B bids, Covenant is provisional year #2 of the four-year provisional status.  They are participating in the Great South AC.

I think that Chapman is a lock for the Pool B bid, both men and women.

Ralph, thanks and plus K for your response.

I still don't understand why the Chapman women's team is listed with SCIAC teams, but not the men's.

When Chapman posters participate on the  Men's SCIAC board, they are usually "gang tackled", but it seems to be ok for SOME of the SCIAC posters to take "pot shots" at the Chapman men's teams.

There are natural rivalies between several SCIAC teams and Chapman, do to the interest in travel costs and geography. I have never seen a UCSC posting, so that leaves Chapman supporters basically talking to themselves, which usually happens via PM or outside email.

I don't call the shots  for these boards, but it seems only natural that a change be made.

Personally, I usually don't post anyting on these boards unless a SCIAC team is involed.

I have emailed Pat directly regarding this, but have received no answer, maybe someone else can clue me in.

I hope CU makes the playoffs and can host....which would be doubful if Cal LU wins the auto bid for men's, and Oxy wins the women's bid, as they both handed Chapman one of their few defeats for both programs. With a remaining schedule, for both teams, that leaves much to be desired, it will be hard to keep both programs geared up. But, that is just a situation that both Chapman coaches must deal with. It is always a pleasure to host, with a packed gym.The excitement is unbelievable!

Of course, if you had a special message board for the West Region Independents to accommodate the Chapman Women, it would be a single school board, which is "against" one of the Terms of Use.   :-\

Ralph, would it not actually include UCSC then?

dahlby...

I don't see the Chapman women getting to host considering their performance in the tournament the past few years, at least not beyond the first round against the SCIAC champ (who also have not performed well in recent tournaments). The Panthers have done rather well in those games the past few years, and then usually end up in the NWC getting trounced by 20+. The 28-point loss to a down George Fox team doesn't help build the case. The Lewis & Clark win is helpful, but I don't see tremendous strength of schedule (said without actually looking at the numbers).

BlueZoneBruin

BlueZoneBruin,

Until last year the trend had been for Chapman to play the SCIAC Champ, with the winner going on to defeat. Only once (as best I can remember), several years ago, did the CU women advance past the second round. Yes, there is a SOS problem being an Indy, although CU should receive
the lone Pool B bid this year and either play the SCIAC Champ or go up north to play a NWC opponent as last year.

If Chapman plays a SCIAC team in the first round, they would probably host, except against OXY, who beat CU in the regular season.

Note to Ralph....Also, I believe Neb Wes is a west region school.

Quote from: dahlby on January 24, 2011, 01:40:35 AM
BlueZoneBruin,

Until last year the trend had been for Chapman to play the SCIAC Champ, with the winner going on to defeat. Only once (as best I can remember), several years ago, did the CU women advance past the second round. Yes, there is a SOS problem being an Indy, although CU should receive
the lone Pool B bid this year and either play the SCIAC Champ or go up north to play a NWC opponent as last year.

If Chapman plays a SCIAC team in the first round, they would probably host, except against OXY, who beat CU in the regular season.

Note to Ralph....Also, I believe Neb Wes is a west region school.

Yes to both points, but I have never seen a UC Banana Sluggette post, and cannot remember the last time a NebWes Women's poster commented.  ;)

Ralph,
Thanks again. But this is the whole point of contention. Chapman's teams should be lumped in with another board(s), rather than being the only teams on the two boards.
Oh well, what can one do.

First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/02/ncaas-mens-regional-rankings/
Yes - the link says "mens" but both regional rankings are posted there.

Week 3 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/16/ncaa-2011-regional-rankings-week-3/

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 16, 2011, 03:33:55 PM
Week 3 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/16/ncaa-2011-regional-rankings-week-3/

It says that Chapman has virtually clinched the Pool B bid again, and might be in a good position to host an opening round game.

If the Chapman's women's team makes the playoffs,, they may also be in a position to host. It is my understanding, but I could be wrong, that the NCAA powers to be frown on that.

Last year the CU men's team hosted the first game in Southern Ca., with the winning team going up to Spokane. But, on the other hand, the NW hoosted a four team women's regional. Looks like it will be up for grabs again? I can't figure it out.

Yes, there are provisions for which program gets priority to host which weekend of the playoffs.  The women host in the first weekend; the men in the second weekend.


Page 7/49 of the pdf. (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/0312ac804564e6d699f1df90a48a4ecb/DIIIWBB_Handbook_2.3.11.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=0312ac804564e6d699f1df90a48a4ecb)

The tourney is at 64.  Therefore there will be no byes.

I suspect that there will be 4 west coast teams in the tourney and the highest West Region Seed from the West Coast will host the other 3.

I think that the best hope for Chapman is for L&C to win the NWC tourney and knock GFU deeper into Pool C.

The IIAC has several teams in Pool C contention, so they may keep the NWC out of Pool C.

The next leg of the Chapman bracket will be for the ASC winner to be a travel orphan, which may be (Louisiana College?).  The committee could create a bracket of Chapman, SCIAC, NWC and ASC Pool A's

From UDallas D3 Indy Tourney, no auto bid:
Neb Wes 83-47 over UDallas
Chapman 70-51 over UCSanta Cruz
Chapman vs Neb Wes on Saturday for championship.
Neb Wes defeated Chapman earlier in the season.

From D3 Indy Tourney at UDallas on Saturday:

Chapman over Neb Wes 65-61 in the championship game, avenging an early season loss.

UDallas over UC Santa Cruz in the 3rd place game 67-62.

Pool B is going to be a toss-up this year.   Pool B has 11 teams this year.

Atlantic Region
St Joseph's Brooklyn
Trinity DC
Yeshiva

Central Region
Finlandia
Mount Mary

East Region
College of New Rochelle

Mid-Atlantic Region, Great Lakes Region,
None

Northeast Region
Maine Presque Isle

South Region
Rust

West Region
North Central MN
Nebraska Wesleyan
UC Santa Cruz

What Pool B is Looking like who are the top 4 for the women

Quote from: RustCollege on February 02, 2012, 09:46:37 AM
What Pool B is Looking like who are the top 4 for the women

Trinity DC is 5-2, in region, with 4 games remaining.

Rust is 6-8, in-region, with 2 games remaining.

UCSanta Cruz is 6-8, in region,with 1 game remaining.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 02, 2012, 06:21:57 PM

Quote from: RustCollege on February 02, 2012, 09:46:37 AM
What Pool B is Looking like who are the top 4 for the women

Trinity DC is 5-2, in region, with 4 games remaining.

Rust is 6-8, in-region, with 2 games remaining.

UCSanta Cruz is 6-8, in region,with 1 game remaining.

I have Trinity DC as sporting a .267 SOS.  :o

I didn't know there was a "Trinity DC". So does that mean that D3 sports a trinity of Trinities?

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 02, 2012, 06:21:57 PM

Quote from: RustCollege on February 02, 2012, 09:46:37 AM
What Pool B is Looking like who are the top 4 for the women

Trinity DC is 5-2, in region, with 4 games remaining.

Rust is 6-8, in-region, with 2 games remaining.

UCSanta Cruz is 6-8, in region,with 1 game remaining.

what if all three go 7-8 in D3 how will the tie breaker go

Quote from: David Collinge on February 06, 2012, 06:19:00 PM
I didn't know there was a "Trinity DC". So does that mean that D3 sports a trinity of Trinities?

Among the women... :)

Trinity DC was a member of the Atlantic Women's Collegiate Conference, which had a Pool A bid for a couple of years, before the stronger schools were "invited" to join "stronger" conferences.  They (Trinity) did not get a bid to join "one of the sororities" and have floated around Pool B since the AWCC disbanded.

So what the Pool B looking like right now it looks as if its real close

Looks like St. Joseph's is the front runner...

Quote from: Cruz on February 10, 2012, 10:53:23 PM
Looks like St. Joseph's is the front runner...

So if St Joseph's 1st who are the other two teams with a chance

           D3 Region   Games R.  SOS
St Joseph   6-8          1           .402
UCSC        7-8          1           .439
Trinity       6-3          0           .265
Rust          4-7          1           .566

These are the four who have a shot at the pool b.

Quote from: Cruz on February 13, 2012, 10:54:14 AM
           D3 Region   Games R.  SOS
St Joseph   6-8          1           .402
UCSC        7-8          1           .439
Trinity       6-3          0           .265
Rust          4-7          1           .566

These are the four who have a shot at the pool b.

So Rust still have a chance with one game left and I had rust with a 6-8 in D3...

I used the week 1 regional rankings from last week for each teams D3 regional records.  (You can find them on this website under the News tab-regional rankings.)  They have Rust listed at 4-7 for D3 in region games. 

Quote from: Cruz on February 13, 2012, 02:27:37 PM
I used the week 1 regional rankings from last week for each teams D3 regional records.  (You can find them on this website under the News tab-regional rankings.)  They have Rust listed at 4-7 for D3 in region games.

Rust's games versus Marian, Concordia (Ill.), and Webster are listed as in-region here on their d3hoops schedule page, but I believe all three should be out of region.

Well what's new how the pool B looking so far

I count 16 teams.

UC Santa Cruz, Rust, St Joe's Brooklyn, Presentation, Finlandia, Neb Wesleyan, New Rochelle, Mt Mary, Maine-Presque Isle

and the SAA-7 (Berry is still provisional.)

That should mean 1 Pool B bid.

Mt Mary only had 17 games scheduled and 2 of those were canceled earlier in the season.  I wonder how they can stay in good standing with their schedule!

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 16, 2012, 07:31:23 PM
I count 16 teams.

UC Santa Cruz, Rust, St Joe's Brooklyn, Presentation, Finlandia, Neb Wesleyan, New Rochelle, Mt Mary, Maine-Presque Isle

and the SAA-7 (Berry is still provisional.)

That should mean 1 Pool B bid.

Mt Mary only had 17 games scheduled and 2 of those were canceled earlier in the season.  I wonder how they can stay in good standing with their schedule!

Mount Mary has cancelled the rest of their season due to low numbers.

What is each team standing as of right now

Quote from: RustCollege on December 17, 2012, 02:44:15 AM
What is each team standing as of right now

Rust C.... yikes.. you lost to Webster?    back to the drawing board ;D ;D ;D

8-)

Quote from: hopefan on December 17, 2012, 02:24:02 PM

Quote from: RustCollege on December 17, 2012, 02:44:15 AM
What is each team standing as of right now

Rust C.... yikes.. you lost to Webster?    back to the drawing board ;D ;D ;D

we was without our best player for that game so really its no need to go back... 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Quote from: RustCollege on December 17, 2012, 02:44:15 AM
What is each team standing as of right now

When the season finally winds down, I think that the Pool B team will come from the SAA.

We will probably see an SAA team in the South Region Rankings.  If there is no other Pool B school in the Regional Rankings in February, then the SAA "leader" will get the Pool B.

I'll take a stab at this. This is my first try so there could be some errors here.

Indpendents

1. UC-Santa Cruz 10-3 (7-4 In-Region)
2. Rust 6-7 (5-4)
3. St. Joseph's (Brooklyn) 5-6 (3-4)
4. Presentation 4-7 (0-2)
5. New Rochelle 3-9 (2-7)
6. Finlandia 3-10 (3-6)
7. Maine-Presque Isle 0-8 (0-0)

According to the Nebraska Wesleyan athletics website, the Prairie Wolves are now in an NAIA Conference.

Based on the D3 boards team listing, Santa Cruz D3 opponent record is closer to 5-7.
I agree that the pool B entry (s) will not come from the above listing of teams. And, according to the same source, UCSC has only 1 D3 game remaining, against ULV.

Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 01, 2013, 03:28:15 PM
I'll take a stab at this. This is my first try so there could be some errors here.

Indpendents

1. UC-Santa Cruz 10-3 (7-4 In-Region)
2. Rust 6-7 (5-4)
3. St. Joseph's (Brooklyn) 5-6 (3-4)
4. Presentation 4-7 (0-2)
5. New Rochelle 3-9 (2-7)
6. Finlandia 3-10 (3-6)
7. Maine-Presque Isle 0-8 (0-0)

According to the Nebraska Wesleyan athletics website, the Prairie Wolves are now in an NAIA Conference.

Nebraska Wesleyan has been in the GPAC for some time but since it's not a D-III conference, we list them as an independent.

dahlby,

You have the incorrect information on UC Santa Cruz.  You must be looking at last years schedule.  They are currently 10-4 overall against only D3 competition.  They are 7-4 in region and have 5 D3 regional games remaining.  2 of their four losses came from ranked teams and they just beat the 17th ranked Emmanuel college on Sunday by 18.  Pat has listed the correct information in his post...

http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/UC_Santa_Cruz/women/2012-13/index

Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 01, 2013, 03:28:15 PM
I'll take a stab at this. This is my first try so there could be some errors here.

Indpendents

1. UC-Santa Cruz 10-3 (7-4 In-Region)
2. Rust 6-7 (5-4)
3. St. Joseph's (Brooklyn) 5-6 (3-4)
4. Presentation 4-7 (0-2)
5. New Rochelle 3-9 (2-7)
6. Finlandia 3-10 (3-6)
7. Maine-Presque Isle 0-8 (0-0)

According to the Nebraska Wesleyan athletics website, the Prairie Wolves are now in an NAIA Conference.

Welcome aboard Captain Joe.

Please remember that the SAA is a Pool B conference this year.

We have the Pre-Championship Manual for the 2013 NCAA tournament. Here are some key points of interest...

* The breakdown of bids is the same as last year: 43 conference winners + 1 Pool B + 20 Pool C = 64 teams
* The NCAA tournament selections will be announced on Monday via the Internet, like last year
* There are 16 teams eligible for the 1 Pool B bid: Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Finlandia, Hendrix, Maine-Presque Isle, Millsaps, Nebraska Wesleyan, New Rochelle, North Central (Minn.), Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Rust, Sewanee, St. Joseph's (Brooklyn), UC Santa Cruz, Yeshiva
* There are six teams considered provisional that are ineligible for the tournament: Berry, Covenant, Houghton, Southern Virginia, SUNY Canton and Valley Forge Christian

Quote from: gordonmann on January 19, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
We have the Pre-Championship Manual for the 2013 NCAA tournament. Here are some key points of interest...

* The breakdown of bids is the same as last year: 43 conference winners + 1 Pool B + 20 Pool C = 64 teams
* The NCAA tournament selections will be announced on Monday via the Internet, like last year
* There are 16 teams eligible for the 1 Pool B bid: Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Finlandia, Hendrix, Maine-Presque Isle, Millsaps, Nebraska Wesleyan, New Rochelle, North Central (Minn.), Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Rust, Sewanee, St. Joseph's (Brooklyn), UC Santa Cruz, Yeshiva
* There are six teams considered provisional that are ineligible for the tournament: Berry, Covenant, Houghton, Southern Virginia, SUNY Canton and Valley Forge Christian

Do they list Centenary LA as "Re-classifying"?  If so, do they say the year in which Centenary is the process of re-classification?

Funny -- I got a note about that today and followed up with the NCAA. Have yet to hear back. We believed them to be in Year 2, but it appears they probably belong in Year 3.

Quote from: gordonmann on January 19, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
We have the Pre-Championship Manual for the 2013 NCAA tournament. Here are some key points of interest...

* The breakdown of bids is the same as last year: 43 conference winners + 1 Pool B + 20 Pool C = 64 teams
* The NCAA tournament selections will be announced on Monday via the Internet, like last year
* There are 16 teams eligible for the 1 Pool B bid: Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Finlandia, Hendrix, Maine-Presque Isle, Millsaps, Nebraska Wesleyan, New Rochelle, North Central (Minn.), Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Rust, Sewanee, St. Joseph's (Brooklyn), UC Santa Cruz, Yeshiva
* There are six teams considered provisional that are ineligible for the tournament: Berry, Covenant, Houghton, Southern Virginia, SUNY Canton and Valley Forge Christian

In 2014,  I count one bid and 14 schools.

The SAA-7:   Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Hendrix,  Millsaps, Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Sewanee

Gone to the GSAC:  Finlandia and UMaine Presque Isle

Leaving:

Nebraska Wesleyan  --  Declaring for the NAIA?
New Rochelle           -- Women's College closer to the NEAC or the Colonial States AC
North Central (Minn.)  --  When will they finally join the UMAC completely?
Rust                       --  Still an orphan
St. Joseph's (Brooklyn)  --  Doesn't anyone want them?  Or how much longer do they want to consider options?
UC Santa Cruz            --  ???
Yeshiva                     --  Competes in the Skyline  in other sports

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 29, 2013, 04:10:46 PM

Quote from: gordonmann on January 19, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
We have the Pre-Championship Manual for the 2013 NCAA tournament. Here are some key points of interest...

* The breakdown of bids is the same as last year: 43 conference winners + 1 Pool B + 20 Pool C = 64 teams
* The NCAA tournament selections will be announced on Monday via the Internet, like last year
* There are 16 teams eligible for the 1 Pool B bid: Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Finlandia, Hendrix, Maine-Presque Isle, Millsaps, Nebraska Wesleyan, New Rochelle, North Central (Minn.), Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Rust, Sewanee, St. Joseph's (Brooklyn), UC Santa Cruz, Yeshiva
* There are six teams considered provisional that are ineligible for the tournament: Berry, Covenant, Houghton, Southern Virginia, SUNY Canton and Valley Forge Christian

In 2014,  I count one bid and 14 schools.

The SAA-7:   Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Hendrix,  Millsaps, Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Sewanee

Gone to the GSAC:  Finlandia and UMaine Presque Isle

Leaving:

Nebraska Wesleyan  --  Declaring for the NAIA?
New Rochelle           -- Women's College closer to the NEAC or the Colonial States AC
North Central (Minn.)  --  When will they finally join the UMAC completely?
Rust                       --  Still an orphan
St. Joseph's (Brooklyn)  --  Doesn't anyone want them?  Or how much longer do they want to consider options?
UC Santa Cruz            --  ???
Yeshiva                     --  Competes in the Skyline  in other sports

Also Mount Mary College next year as well (if they have enough numbers to field a team).

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 29, 2013, 04:10:46 PM

Quote from: gordonmann on January 19, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
We have the Pre-Championship Manual for the 2013 NCAA tournament. Here are some key points of interest...

* The breakdown of bids is the same as last year: 43 conference winners + 1 Pool B + 20 Pool C = 64 teams
* The NCAA tournament selections will be announced on Monday via the Internet, like last year
* There are 16 teams eligible for the 1 Pool B bid: Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Finlandia, Hendrix, Maine-Presque Isle, Millsaps, Nebraska Wesleyan, New Rochelle, North Central (Minn.), Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Rust, Sewanee, St. Joseph's (Brooklyn), UC Santa Cruz, Yeshiva
* There are six teams considered provisional that are ineligible for the tournament: Berry, Covenant, Houghton, Southern Virginia, SUNY Canton and Valley Forge Christian

In 2014,  I count one bid and 14 schools.

The SAA-7:   Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Hendrix,  Millsaps, Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Sewanee

Gone to the GSAC:  Finlandia and UMaine Presque Isle

Leaving:

Nebraska Wesleyan  --  Declaring for the NAIA?
New Rochelle           -- Women's College closer to the NEAC or the Colonial States AC
North Central (Minn.)  --  When will they finally join the UMAC completely?
Rust                       --  Still an orphan
St. Joseph's (Brooklyn)  --  Doesn't anyone want them?  Or how much longer do they want to consider options?
UC Santa Cruz            --  ???
Yeshiva                     --  Competes in the Skyline  in other sports

North Central is in the UMAC completely.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2013, 03:50:54 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 29, 2013, 04:10:46 PM

Quote from: gordonmann on January 19, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
We have the Pre-Championship Manual for the 2013 NCAA tournament. Here are some key points of interest...

* The breakdown of bids is the same as last year: 43 conference winners + 1 Pool B + 20 Pool C = 64 teams
* The NCAA tournament selections will be announced on Monday via the Internet, like last year
* There are 16 teams eligible for the 1 Pool B bid: Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Finlandia, Hendrix, Maine-Presque Isle, Millsaps, Nebraska Wesleyan, New Rochelle, North Central (Minn.), Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Rust, Sewanee, St. Joseph's (Brooklyn), UC Santa Cruz, Yeshiva
* There are six teams considered provisional that are ineligible for the tournament: Berry, Covenant, Houghton, Southern Virginia, SUNY Canton and Valley Forge Christian

In 2014,  I count one bid and 14 schools.

The SAA-7:   Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Hendrix,  Millsaps, Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Sewanee

Gone to the GSAC:  Finlandia and UMaine Presque Isle

Leaving:

Nebraska Wesleyan  --  Declaring for the NAIA?
New Rochelle           -- Women's College closer to the NEAC or the Colonial States AC
North Central (Minn.)  --  When will they finally join the UMAC completely?
Rust                       --  Still an orphan
St. Joseph's (Brooklyn)  --  Doesn't anyone want them?  Or how much longer do they want to consider options?
UC Santa Cruz            --  ???
Yeshiva                     --  Competes in the Skyline  in other sports

North Central is in the UMAC completely.

http://umacathletics.com/sports/2008/2/28/History.aspx

Thank you, Pat.  The UMAC web page is out of date. :(

Rhodes probably has the Pool B.  22-3 in-region record.

New attempt at Pool B for 2013-14

East Region:      (1)    New Rochelle NY
Atlantic Region:  (1)    St Joseph's Brooklyn
South Region:    (8)    SAA-7 plus Rust
Central Region:  (1)    Mount Mary
West Region:     (1)    UC Santa Cruz

I get 12 teams.  The Great South AC has found 7 teams to compete this year.  I will assume that they have held onto the AQ.

(Corrections are appreciated.)

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 28, 2013, 08:59:46 PM
New attempt at Pool B for 2013-14

East Region:      (1)    New Rochelle NY
Atlantic Region:  (1)    St Joseph's Brooklyn
South Region:    (8)    SAA-7 plus Rust
Central Region:  (1)    Mount Mary
West Region:     (1)    UC Santa Cruz

I get 12 teams.  The Great South AC has found 7 teams to compete this year.  I will assume that they have held onto the AQ.

(Corrections are appreciated.)

Maranatha Baptist is a independent. Majority of their schedule is against NCCAA teams but they are listed as an independent.

For the archives...

Pool B for 2104-15

East Region:      (1)    New Rochelle NY
Atlantic Region:  (2)    St Joseph's Brooklyn, Yeshiva
South Region:    (1)    Rust
Central Region:  (3)    Finlanida, Maranatha Baptist, Mount Mary
West Region:     (1)    UC Santa Cruz

I get 8 teams.  No Pool B bid this year.

(Corrections are appreciated.)

Finlandia is now in the Great South Athletic Conference.

So how many teams do you have to have for pool B

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 28, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
For the archives...

Pool B for 2104-15

East Region:      (1)    New Rochelle NY
Atlantic Region:  (2)    St Joseph's Brooklyn, Yeshiva
South Region:    (1)    Rust
Central Region:  (3)    Finlanida, Maranatha Baptist, Mount Mary
West Region:     (1)    UC Santa Cruz

I get 8 teams.  No Pool B bid this year.

(Corrections are appreciated.)

Quote from: RustCollege on March 04, 2015, 06:14:55 PM
So how many teams do you have to have for pool B

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 28, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
For the archives...

Pool B for 2104-15

East Region:      (1)    New Rochelle NY
Atlantic Region:  (2)    St Joseph's Brooklyn, Yeshiva
South Region:    (1)    Rust
Central Region:  (3)    Finlanida, Maranatha Baptist, Mount Mary
West Region:     (1)    UC Santa Cruz

I get 8 teams.  No Pool B bid this year.

(Corrections are appreciated.)

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 08, 2015, 02:42:58 PM

Quote from: RustCollege on March 04, 2015, 06:14:55 PM
So how many teams do you have to have for pool B

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 28, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
For the archives...

Pool B for 2104-15

East Region:      (1)    New Rochelle NY
Atlantic Region:  (2)    St Joseph's Brooklyn, Yeshiva
South Region:    (1)    Rust
Central Region:  (3)    Finlanida, Maranatha Baptist, Mount Mary
West Region:     (1)    UC Santa Cruz

I get 8 teams.  No Pool B bid this year.

(Corrections are appreciated.)

The calculation is made by totaling the number of member institutions in the Pool A conferences and dividing by the number of conferences.

That gives a ratio.  The number of teams that are in Pool B must be greater than or equal to the ratio for a Pool B bid to be awarded.
I suspect that the ratio was greater than 9.

Pool B needed 2 more Independents to have a bid allocated. (The Southern Athletic Association moved from Pool B to Pool A in 2014-15, and got a Pool A bid.)

Happy Thanksgiving!

Last week, the NCAA released the pre-championship manual for this season's NCAA Division III Women's Basketball Tournament (2017-18 season)

This year, there is 1 Pool B selection, with 10 candidates vying for the pick.

Here are the 10 Pool B candidates this season:

Atlantic-- Trinity Washington (Ind.)

Central-- Marantha Baptist (Ind.), Mount Mary (Ind.), Finlandia (ACAA)

East-- SUNY-Canton (ACAA), Pine Manor (ACAA), New Rochelle (Ind.)

Mid-Atlantic-- Valley Forge (ACAA)

Northeast-- UMaine-Presque Isle (ACAA)

West--UC Santa Cruz (Ind.)

Note:  While the pre-championship manual does not specifically impose a requirement that a Pool B team must have a record of .500 or better, the NCAA Division III Women's Basketball Committee has expressed their dissatisfaction of being forced to select a Pool B team with a record under .500 to the national tournament.  At the April, 2017 meeting, the DIII women's basketball committee made a recommendation that the Pool B bid be forfeited in favor of an additional Pool C team if, at selection time, no Pool B candidate has a record of .500 or better vs Div III teams in the primary criteria.

Couple of items:
- Don't expect the WBB committee's request to be granted as of yet. There has been talk of this elsewhere and I have read no where that the Championship Committee or any where higher will adopt this idea. I don't believe it has gone any further than the recommendation which means it is basically dead in the water for right now. That said, I will certainly ask around to make sure I didn't miss it. I just wouldn't hold one's breath.
- Next year, the Pool B will lose two members. It was just announced today that the NAC will be accepting UMPI and SUNY-Canton to their conference starting next summer. That could come close to bringing Pool B to a close for 2018-19.

HOWEVER, with new members being added and with the teams currently being reduced to eight - the math is REALLY close. Also, Thomas More becomes a Pool B member next year if they don't find a home before that (doubtful). Thus, Pool B could be alive and well and at the very least have a solid representative for the short term.

9 is the minimum for the men right now - they were supposed to get their Pool B bid back next year, but now probably won't.  It can't be any less than 9 for the women, since they have more teams.

I honestly did not think that the Championships Committee would grant a minimum requirement of .500 or better for Pool B teams when the women's basketball committee is the only one of the d3 sports committees requesting it.  The requirement needs to be for all d3 sports across the board if it is to be implemented.  It also does not prevent an under .500 team from winning its conference tournament and automatically qualifying via Pool A.

I believe that UC Santa Cruz got a Pool B bid for the women's soccer tournament this year despite having an under .500 mark vs DIII opponents.  UC Santa Cruz had the strongest SOS of the Pool B soccer candidates and was the only one to play a regionally ranked opponent.  To my knowledge, I didn't see the DIII Women's Soccer committee having a problem with it.

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 27, 2017, 11:22:19 AM

9 is the minimum for the men right now - they were supposed to get their Pool B bid back next year, but now probably won't.  It can't be any less than 9 for the women, since they have more teams.

It is all about that ratio which is about the only thing I don't have memorized. I just know it can be a moving target sometimes and I didn't want to assume anything.

Quote from: deiscanton on November 27, 2017, 11:43:01 AM
I honestly did not think that the Championships Committee would grant a minimum requirement of .500 or better for Pool B teams when the women's basketball committee is the only one of the d3 sports committees requesting it.  The requirement needs to be for all d3 sports across the board if it is to be implemented.  It also does not prevent an under .500 team from winning its conference tournament and automatically qualifying via Pool A.

I believe that UC Santa Cruz got a Pool B bid for the women's soccer tournament this year despite having an under .500 mark vs DIII opponents.  UC Santa Cruz had the strongest SOS of the Pool B soccer candidates and was the only one to play a regionally ranked opponent.  To my knowledge, I didn't see the DIII Women's Soccer committee having a problem with it.

Yes - that was the other place I have seen the "problem" mentioned... women's soccer. Not sure if the committee had a problem with it or not, but fans certainly did. LOL

And you are right, we have seen AQs given out to sub-.500 teams often, so I can't see the Championships Committee nor membership on the whole suddenly putting a .500 rule in place no matter how well-meaning it could be.

I reviewed the June, 2017 meeting report of the DIII Championships Committee, and in that report, the Championships Committee did not approve the request of the Women's Basketball Committee to impose a .500 or better requirement on Pool B candidates. 

Quote from: deiscanton on November 28, 2017, 01:58:29 PM
I reviewed the June, 2017 meeting report of the DIII Championships Committee, and in that report, the Championships Committee did not approve the request of the Women's Basketball Committee to impose a .500 or better requirement on Pool B candidates.

I knew I read it somewhere.. thanks deis.

Looking forward to seeing your men's soccer program in action this weekend, BTW.

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 28, 2017, 04:04:25 PM

Quote from: deiscanton on November 28, 2017, 01:58:29 PM
I reviewed the June, 2017 meeting report of the DIII Championships Committee, and in that report, the Championships Committee did not approve the request of the Women's Basketball Committee to impose a .500 or better requirement on Pool B candidates.

I knew I read it somewhere.. thanks deis.

Looking forward to seeing your men's soccer program in action this weekend, BTW.

Thanks, I appreciate it.  Now to see if I can install the NCAA Sports app on my prepaid smartphone to watch the soccer games, since the Amazon App store does not offer it.

Quote from: deiscanton on November 28, 2017, 04:45:38 PM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 28, 2017, 04:04:25 PM

Quote from: deiscanton on November 28, 2017, 01:58:29 PM
I reviewed the June, 2017 meeting report of the DIII Championships Committee, and in that report, the Championships Committee did not approve the request of the Women's Basketball Committee to impose a .500 or better requirement on Pool B candidates.

I knew I read it somewhere.. thanks deis.

Looking forward to seeing your men's soccer program in action this weekend, BTW.

Thanks, I appreciate it.  Now to see if I can install the NCAA Sports app on my prepaid smartphone to watch the soccer games, since the Amazon App store does not offer it.

Don't need the app if you have a link to the game(s), I believe. But I hear ya.

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 28, 2017, 10:25:31 PM

Quote from: deiscanton on November 28, 2017, 04:45:38 PM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 28, 2017, 04:04:25 PM

Quote from: deiscanton on November 28, 2017, 01:58:29 PM
I reviewed the June, 2017 meeting report of the DIII Championships Committee, and in that report, the Championships Committee did not approve the request of the Women's Basketball Committee to impose a .500 or better requirement on Pool B candidates.

I knew I read it somewhere.. thanks deis.

Looking forward to seeing your men's soccer program in action this weekend, BTW.

Thanks, I appreciate it.  Now to see if I can install the NCAA Sports app on my prepaid smartphone to watch the soccer games, since the Amazon App store does not offer it.

Don't need the app if you have a link to the game(s), I believe. But I hear ya.

The app is not needed if you are watching the games on a laptop. If you have a mobile device that has Google play or the Apple Itunes app store, you will need the NCAA Sports app to get video for the national semifinals and championship games in both soccer and basketball, but the app is available easily.  Links are fine on the Fire tablet for live stats.  However, links for video will not work directly on a Fire tablet (which I use) as the NCAA tells you that you need the NCAA Sports app to watch the game on a mobile device, and the Amazon app store only offers the March Madness app.  It is possible to download the app from an outside source, but I have never done it, and I do not want to risk making my tablet unusable.

Quote from: deiscanton on November 29, 2017, 02:52:25 AM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 28, 2017, 10:25:31 PM

Quote from: deiscanton on November 28, 2017, 04:45:38 PM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 28, 2017, 04:04:25 PM

Quote from: deiscanton on November 28, 2017, 01:58:29 PM
I reviewed the June, 2017 meeting report of the DIII Championships Committee, and in that report, the Championships Committee did not approve the request of the Women's Basketball Committee to impose a .500 or better requirement on Pool B candidates.

I knew I read it somewhere.. thanks deis.

Looking forward to seeing your men's soccer program in action this weekend, BTW.

Thanks, I appreciate it.  Now to see if I can install the NCAA Sports app on my prepaid smartphone to watch the soccer games, since the Amazon App store does not offer it.

Don't need the app if you have a link to the game(s), I believe. But I hear ya.

The app is not needed if you are watching the games on a laptop. If you have a mobile device that has Google play or the Apple Itunes app store, you will need the NCAA Sports app to get video for the national semifinals and championship games in both soccer and basketball, but the app is available easily.  Links are fine on the Fire tablet for live stats.  However, links for video will not work directly on a Fire tablet (which I use) as the NCAA tells you that you need the NCAA Sports app to watch the game on a mobile device, and the Amazon app store only offers the March Madness app.  It is possible to download the app from an outside source, but I have never done it, and I do not want to risk making my tablet unusable.

I actually now remember that... thanks for reminding me.

Pool B candidates sorted by SOS-- Jan. 16, 2018

1 Pool B pick to be selectedi

UC Santa Cruz (West)-- 2-10, SOS of .622

Finlandia (Central)-- 3-12, SOS of .537

New Rochelle (East)-- 4-9, SOS of .501

Trinity Washington (Atlantic)-- 0-4, SOS of .470

Valley Forge (Mid-Atlantic)-- 3-6, SOS of .436

UMaine-Presque Isle (Northeast),-- 0-6, SOS of .430

SUNY-Canton (East)-- 5-7, SOS of .421

Pine Manor (East)-- 5-10, SOS of .419

Mount Mary (Central)-- 1-6, SOS of .332

Marantha Baptist (Central)-- 2-6, SOS of .306

Update-- January 22, 2018

1.). UC Santa Cruz-- 2-10, SOS of .621
2.). Finlandia-- 3-14, SOS of .542
3.). New Rochelle-- 5-9, SOS of .489
4.). UMaine-Presque Isle-- 0-9, SOS of .487
5.). Trinity Washington-- 0-4, SOS of .448
6.). Pine Manor-- 5-12, SOS of .426
7.). Valley Forge-- 4-6, SOS of .405
8.). SUNY- Canton-- 7-7, SOS of .399
9.). Mount Mary-- 1-6, SOS of .347
10.). Marantha Baptist-- 2-6, SOS of .319

So far, only SUNY-Canton has a .500 or better record that meets the preferences of the Women's Basketball Committee (note-- a winning pct of .500 or better is not a requirement for Pool B selection.)

The ACAA has announced that Pine Manor will host the ACAA Men's and Women's Basketball Championships on Feb. 24 and 25, 2018.  The ACAA will select the top remaining 3 teams on each side on Feb. 5-- these teams and the host school will compete in the conference semifinals on Feb. 24, with the winners playing for the ACAA basketball titles on Feb. 25.

Pool B update-- January 29, 2018-- SOS rankings

1.). UC Santa Cruz-- 2-11, .594 SOS
2.). Finlandia-- 4-16, .531 SOS
3.). UMaine-Presque Isle-- 0-9, .494 SOS
4.). New Rochelle-- 6-9, .486 SOS
5.). Trinity Washington-- 0-5, .461 SOS
6.). Pine Manor-- 6-13, .436 SOS
7.)  SUNY-Canton-- 9-8, .399 SOS
8.). Valley Forge-- 6-6, .392 SOS
9.). Mount Mary-- 2-6, .330 SOS
10.). Marantha Baptist-- 3-6, .329 SOS

Quote from: deiscanton on January 29, 2018, 09:47:17 AM
Pool B update-- January 29, 2018-- SOS rankings

1.). UC Santa Cruz-- 2-11, .594 SOS
2.). Finlandia-- 4-16, .531 SOS
3.). UMaine-Presque Isle-- 0-9, .494 SOS
4.). New Rochelle-- 6-9, .486 SOS
5.). Trinity Washington-- 0-5, .461 SOS
6.). Pine Manor-- 6-13, .436 SOS
7.)  SUNY-Canton-- 9-8, .399 SOS
8.). Valley Forge-- 6-6, .392 SOS
9.). Mount Mary-- 2-6, .330 SOS
10.). Marantha Baptist-- 3-6, .329 SOS

Glad I don't have to choose.

Pool B SOS rankings-- Feb. 5, 2018

Note:  Some adjustments made to W/L records.

1.). UC Santa Cruz-- 2-11, .595 SOS
2.). Finlandia-- 4-15, .537 SOS
3.). UMaine Presque Isle-- 0-9, .495 SOS
4.). New Rochelle-- 3-10, .480 SOS
5.). Trinity Washington-- 0-5, .455 SOS
6.). Pine Manor-- 6-14, .430 SOS
7.). SUNY-Canton-- 8-7, .408 SOS
8.). Valley Forge-- 5-5, .383 SOS
9.). Marantha Baptist-- 3-7, .374 SOS
10.). Mount Mary-- 2-7, .324 SOS

so which would the committee be more likely to favor here, the SOS of the Banana Slugs or the Kangaroos actually being over .500 vs. D3?

UCSC is probably the better team with reasonable margins of defeat to some pretty strong D3 squads, while Canton is the 1 in Potsdam's 1-20.

Canton and UMPI join the Pool A NAC next season to drop this list to 8 schools, what is the threshold to re-allocate the bid from Pool B to Pool C?

At least the tournament field is gonna get a great nickname out of it.

Quote from: Caz Bombers on February 05, 2018, 01:23:34 PM
so which would the committee be more likely to favor here, the SOS of the Banana Slugs or the Kangaroos actually being over .500 vs. D3?

UCSC is probably the better team with reasonable margins of defeat to some pretty strong D3 squads, while Canton is the 1 in Potsdam's 1-20.

Canton and UMPI join the Pool A NAC next season to drop this list to 8 schools, what is the threshold to re-allocate the bid from Pool B to Pool C?

At least the tournament field is gonna get a great nickname out of it.

The women's basketball committee actually wanted a requirement that all Pool B candidates be .500 or greater vs D3 to be picked-- or the bid would be given to Pool C for that year if no Pool B candidates met the .500 threshold v D3, but the DIII Championships Committee rejected that request last June.  So, that Pool B bid will not be reallocated to Pool C on that basis.

However, in that request, we have a good idea that the women's basketball committee will prefer the winning pct be over .500 when they make their selection.

Quote from: Caz Bombers on February 05, 2018, 01:23:34 PM
so which would the committee be more likely to favor here, the SOS of the Banana Slugs or the Kangaroos actually being over .500 vs. D3?

UCSC is probably the better team with reasonable margins of defeat to some pretty strong D3 squads, while Canton is the 1 in Potsdam's 1-20.

Canton and UMPI join the Pool A NAC next season to drop this list to 8 schools, what is the threshold to re-allocate the bid from Pool B to Pool C?

At least the tournament field is gonna get a great nickname out of it.

The new conference teams (America East, I believe), will be added to Pool B next year for both men and women until the AQ comes through in a couple years.

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 05, 2018, 01:47:07 PM

Quote from: Caz Bombers on February 05, 2018, 01:23:34 PM
so which would the committee be more likely to favor here, the SOS of the Banana Slugs or the Kangaroos actually being over .500 vs. D3?

UCSC is probably the better team with reasonable margins of defeat to some pretty strong D3 squads, while Canton is the 1 in Potsdam's 1-20.

Canton and UMPI join the Pool A NAC next season to drop this list to 8 schools, what is the threshold to re-allocate the bid from Pool B to Pool C?

At least the tournament field is gonna get a great nickname out of it.

The new conference teams (America East, I believe), will be added to Pool B next year for both men and women until the AQ comes through in a couple years.

The new conference is actually Atlantic East.  America East is in Division I.

The access ratio is currently 1:9.907-- 426 teams are in the 43 conferences that have AQs. 

Also, won't Thomas More also be in Pool B next season as a result of leaving the PAC?

thanks, folks. I forgot about The New Conference/Atlantic East and the Thomas More situation. TMC will probably lock down Pool B for a while, or maybe an Atlantic East team will have a great season. Either way, I think this March will be the last of the "what the heck are they doing here" teams.

Quote from: deiscanton on February 05, 2018, 01:54:09 PM

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 05, 2018, 01:47:07 PM

Quote from: Caz Bombers on February 05, 2018, 01:23:34 PM
so which would the committee be more likely to favor here, the SOS of the Banana Slugs or the Kangaroos actually being over .500 vs. D3?

UCSC is probably the better team with reasonable margins of defeat to some pretty strong D3 squads, while Canton is the 1 in Potsdam's 1-20.

Canton and UMPI join the Pool A NAC next season to drop this list to 8 schools, what is the threshold to re-allocate the bid from Pool B to Pool C?

At least the tournament field is gonna get a great nickname out of it.

The new conference teams (America East, I believe), will be added to Pool B next year for both men and women until the AQ comes through in a couple years.

The new conference is actually Atlantic East.  America East is in Division I.

The access ratio is currently 1:9.907-- 426 teams are in the 43 conferences that have AQs. 

Also, won't Thomas More also be in Pool B next season as a result of leaving the PAC?

Remember, the access ratio is a moving target each year. Based on the number of teams and AQs as you mentioned, so that number could slide a bit next year. In mean, the number is lower.

Yes, Thomas More will be a Pool B next year and will remain there until either they get into a conference or move on.

ACAA Women's Basketball Tournament

Pine Manor College, Chestnut Hill, MA-- Feb. 24 and 25, 2018

Semifinals

All seedings done by using Herosports.com/Bennett rankings

Saturday, Feb. 24, 2018

1.). #1 seed Finlandia vs #4 seed Pine Manor-- 6 PM Eastern
2.). #2 seed Valley Forge vs #3 seed SUNY-Canton-- 8 PM Eastern

Championship game

Sunday, Feb. 25-- 2:30 PM Eastern

ACAA Basketball Championship Fields Announced (http://goacaa.org/general/2017-18/releases/20180205oad6vl)

NCAA Data sheets from Feb. 14 rankings used for this--

Atlantic--

Trinity Washington-- 0-6, SOS of .440, 0-0 v RRO

Central--

Marantha Baptist-- 3-7, SOS of .370, 0-1 v RRO
Mount Mary-- 2-7, SOS of .322, 0-0 v RRO
Finlandia-- 4-16, SOS of .536, 0-5 v RRO

East

SUNY-Canton-- 8-9, SOS of .384, 0-1 v RRO
Pine Manor-- 6-14, SOS of .433, 0-1 v RRO
New Rochelle-- 3-11, SOS of .472, 0-2 v RRO

Mid-Atlantic

Valley Forge-- 7-6, SOS of .385, 0-0 v RRO

Northeast

UMaine Presque Isle-- 0-10, SOS of .504, 0-2 v RRO

West

UC Santa Cruz-- 2-11, SOS of .593, 0-4 v RRO

Finlandia and Pine Manor for the bid?  I could see the winner of that game getting it.  Tough call, though.

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 16, 2018, 07:32:47 AM

Finlandia and Pine Manor for the bid?  I could see the winner of that game getting it.  Tough call, though.

That is just the first of the ACAA semifinals.  The other semifinal is SUNY-Canton vs Valley Forge.  Valley Forge is the only Pool B team currently above .500, according to the data sheets.

Also, last April, the DIII Women's Basketball Committee wanted to impose a .500 or better requirement for all Pool B candidates, but the Championships Committee turned it down a few months later at the June 2017 meeting.

Quote from: deiscanton on February 16, 2018, 07:45:48 AM

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 16, 2018, 07:32:47 AM

Finlandia and Pine Manor for the bid?  I could see the winner of that game getting it.  Tough call, though.

That is just the first of the ACAA semifinals.  The other semifinal is SUNY-Canton vs Valley Forge.  Valley Forge is the only Pool B team currently above .500, according to the data sheets.

Also, last April, the DIII Women's Basketball Committee wanted to impose a .500 or better requirement for all Pool B candidates, but the Championships Committee turned it down a few months later at the June 2017 meeting.

Yeah, I was thinking Valley Forge's SOS would doom them, but a head to head like that could prove important.  Maybe it'll just be whoever wins the ACAA.

Guess we found Amherst's first round opponent.

Ouch. Lol

Quote from: gordonmann on February 16, 2018, 04:43:13 PM
Guess we found Amherst's first round opponent.

Unless its Finlandia; then they'd have to fly.

Don't be so quick gordonmann on thinking Amherst will get that first round.

Quote from: Rofrog on February 17, 2018, 04:11:07 PM
Don't be so quick gordonmann on thinking Amherst will get that first round.

Why not? At this rate, it's a pretty good indication. Most of the schools mentioned are near Amherst... and even if they lost, I don't think they will suddenly be no longer the top team in that part of the bracket.

Why so: Is Amherst the only team playing!You dont know with the Ncaa just like the year they sent Penn State Abington all the way out to George fox!

Quote from: Rofrog on February 18, 2018, 01:31:16 AM
Why so: Is Amherst the only team playing!You dont know with the Ncaa just like the year they sent Penn State Abington all the way out to George Fox!

Rofrog, I believe that George Fox was the #1 seed in the region, deserving of hosting in the first round AND was a travel orphan. Since someone had to travel to Oregon, PSU-Abingdon may have been an economical choice.

The other side of that bracket in 2015 was Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (another travel orphan) versus Puget Sound.

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Finalist (32-1) GFU may have been the #1 seed in the country, but they had to fly to Calvin for rounds #3 & #4.

Rofrog, you are taking into account an exception when there were two teams on the East Coast that needed to take on a top team. It was actually 2015 (http://static.psbin.com/7/b/vxs16v9q2jz2f6/womens-basketball-bracket-final-2015.pdf) Go look at who Tufts played that year. You can swap the Tufts v Pine Manor game with GFU v Abington... the result is the same. Someone had to go fill in at GFU and they chose Abingyon. It easily could have been Pine Manor. The point remains the exact same.

I don't see a reason, right now, where Amherst wouldn't be given the Pool B choice simply because it looks more and more like it will be an East Coast team. IF it isn't that choice. If it is Finlandia or maybe someone on the West Coast (doubt it), then it changes things and most likely they send them to Whitman (or whoever is actually hosting).

BTW - I don't feel they will fly a team from the east coast to the west coach (or visa versa) in the first weekend again. I don't think some thought that was a good idea, though I didn't hear any complaints from the team themselves.

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2018, 01:29:37 PM
Rofrog, you are taking into account an exception when there were two teams on the East Coast that needed to take on a top team. It was actually 2015 (http://static.psbin.com/7/b/vxs16v9q2jz2f6/womens-basketball-bracket-final-2015.pdf) Go look at who Tufts played that year. You can swap the Tufts v Pine Manor game with GFU v Abington... the result is the same. Someone had to go fill in at GFU and they chose Abingyon. It easily could have been Pine Manor. The point remains the exact same.

I don't see a reason, right now, where Amherst wouldn't be given the Pool B choice simply because it looks more and more like it will be an East Coast team. IF it isn't that choice. If it is Finlandia or maybe someone on the West Coast (doubt it), then it changes things and most likely they send them to Whitman (or whoever is actually hosting).

BTW - I don't feel they will fly a team from the east coast to the west coach (or visa versa) in the first weekend again. I don't think some thought that was a good idea, though I didn't hear any complaints from the team themselves.

Not to mention, isn't there a mileage limit for commercial travel?  After a certain distance the NCAA has to spring for a charter.  If I recall, they had a geographic outlier in the midst of the heavily populated east.  There were the exact right number of teams for the MW hosts or something like that.

It wasn't that they just chose Abingdon at random - someone from the east coast had to go, because there weren't other options.  I don't think they'd do it again unless they absolutely had to.

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 18, 2018, 02:12:13 PM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2018, 01:29:37 PM
Rofrog, you are taking into account an exception when there were two teams on the East Coast that needed to take on a top team. It was actually 2015 (http://static.psbin.com/7/b/vxs16v9q2jz2f6/womens-basketball-bracket-final-2015.pdf) Go look at who Tufts played that year. You can swap the Tufts v Pine Manor game with GFU v Abington... the result is the same. Someone had to go fill in at GFU and they chose Abingyon. It easily could have been Pine Manor. The point remains the exact same.

I don't see a reason, right now, where Amherst wouldn't be given the Pool B choice simply because it looks more and more like it will be an East Coast team. IF it isn't that choice. If it is Finlandia or maybe someone on the West Coast (doubt it), then it changes things and most likely they send them to Whitman (or whoever is actually hosting).

BTW - I don't feel they will fly a team from the east coast to the west coach (or visa versa) in the first weekend again. I don't think some thought that was a good idea, though I didn't hear any complaints from the team themselves.

Not to mention, isn't there a mileage limit for commercial travel?  After a certain distance the NCAA has to spring for a charter.  If I recall, they had a geographic outlier in the midst of the heavily populated east.  There were the exact right number of teams for the MW hosts or something like that.

It wasn't that they just chose Abingdon at random - someone from the east coast had to go, because there weren't other options.  I don't think they'd do it again unless they absolutely had to.

No.. I don't believe that is true. The charter comes into play with some other things, but I don't think mileage is the trigger. I will check on that to be sure.

The NCAA released the third set of women's basketball regional rankings with few changes from last week's version. This is the final set that we'll see before the Tournament bracket is released on Monday. Full list here: http://d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/women-regional-rankings-third

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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 17, 2018, 09:33:13 AM

Quote from: gordonmann on February 16, 2018, 04:43:13 PM
Guess we found Amherst's first round opponent.

Unless its Finlandia; then they'd have to fly.

Finlandia could bus to Wartburg.

Quote from: monsoon on February 21, 2018, 03:46:59 PM

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 17, 2018, 09:33:13 AM

Quote from: gordonmann on February 16, 2018, 04:43:13 PM
Guess we found Amherst's first round opponent.

Unless its Finlandia; then they'd have to fly.

Finlandia could bus to Wartburg.

Just barely... LOL

ACAA semifinals

Valley Forge 66, SUNY-Canton 50

Pine Manor 88, Finlandia 70

Sunday-- Valley Forge v Pine Manor

IMO, it looks like Valley Forge will be the most likely Pool B pick when the selections come in.

Final -- ACAA title game:  Valley Forge 73, Pine Manor 67

Valley Forge is your 2017-18 ACAA Champion.

Pool B candidates--

Atlantic

Trinity Washington-- 0-8 (.000), SOS of .432

Central

Marantha Baptist-- 4-8 (.333), SOS of .369
Mount Mary-- 4-8 (.333), SOS of .313
Finlandia-- 4-18 (.182), SOS of .526

East

SUNY-Canton-- 9-10 (.474), SOS of .397
Pine Manor-- 9-15 (.375), SOS of .427
New Rochelle-- 6-11 (.353), SOS of .484

Mid-Atlantic

Valley Forge-- 12-6 (.667), SOS of .384

Northeast

UMaine Presque Isle-- 0-8 (.000), SOS of .521

West

UC Santa Cruz-- 3-11 (.214), SOS of .587

No Pool B candidate defeated a RRO this season.

Valley Forge is the only Pool B team with a winning percentage better than .500; therefore, having satisfied the Women's Basketball Committee's preference that a Pool B pick be .500 or better, Valley Forge is the most likely Pool B pick.

with an 11-point loss on the road to Randolph-Macon, gotta give some props to Valley Forge, they played much closer than a whole bunch of other teams that took more traditional roads to the Dance.

So who is/are the pool B candidate/s this year?

This year, there is not very much to write about Pool B.  Thomas More (ACAA) is the #1 ranked team in the Great Lakes at 25-0 and has that 1 Pool B bid locked up.  The ACAA joins the UAA this year as a multi region conference, where members of these 2 conferences are placed in their natural geographic regions for evaluation purposes.



Northeast-- Pine Manor (ACAA)
East-- Alfred State (ACAA), New Rochelle (Ind)
Atlantic,-- Atlantic East Conference (Leader is Marymount, currently ranked #4 in Atlantic -- Marymount is a Pool C candidate), Trinity Washington (ACAA)
Mid-Atlantic-- Valley Forge (ACAA)
Great Lakes-- Thomas More (ACAA)-- #1 in GL-- Pool B pick.
Central-- Marantha Baptist, Finlandia (ACAA), Mount Mary (ACAA)
West-- UC Santa Cruz
South-- None

Thomas More is 25-0 overall.

Update-- As of the week 2 regional rankings, Thomas More, with a d3 record of 21-0, with 10 wins vs regionally ranked opponents, and an SOS of .611, most likely has the best Pool B resume in the entire history of the D3 Women's basketball tournament.

Marymount, at 18-5, 2-2 v RRO, and a SOS of .536, is in the mix for one of the 20 Pool C bids.

Thanks. I forgot that Thomas More was independent this year and eligible.

Do you think Marymount would still be a pool C bid if they lose 1 more game or do they have to win AEC?

I'd like to see them get in, but not at the expense of my Lady Cavs.  ;D

If Cabrini v Marymount is the Saturday Atlantic East title game, go for it!  I think Marymount is still in the mix for a Pool C bid at 21-6.

As far as the ECAC goes, maybe I get a match of Cabrini v NYU the following week.😉

My guess is that Marymount is in if they win the AEC tourney and maybe even if they don't.

The new NCAA Division III women's basketball regional rankings are posted: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-third

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ACAA semifinal #1. Halftime

Thomas More 58, Alfred State 28

I paid $4 to watch this blowout on line.  Fewer than 100 fans in attendance in Alfred, NY. 

Final-- Thomas More 106, Alfred State 56

Game went as I would have expected.  Saints play tomorrow afternoon against either Valley Forge or Finlandia for the ACAA title.

Update-- Thomas More plays Valley Forge on Sunday.  Score of game vs Alfred State corrected.

Congrats to Thomas More-- 2018-19 ACAA Champion.

Thomas More is the only d3 women's basketball team still undefeated.

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Bumblin' B report for 2019

Thomas More goes undefeated, 6-0.

Pool B update for 2020

Marymount 68 Gettysburg 48

Second Round

George Fox 57, Marymount 48.

Final for 2019-20: 1-1.

If my math is correct, there should be a Pool B berth on the women's side this year, even though the men don't have one, thanks to Agnes Scott, Wesleyan (GA), and Trinity Washington.

Yeah, that will probably go to whomever wins the new CCS (https://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Berea/Women/2022-23/index).

Berea's been in the Tournament before and would be a respectable Pool B rep. I'm interested to see if they're competitive with No. 2 Transylvania at the end of this month. That may end up being the best team Transy plays until the NCAA Tournament.