This is the new home of UMAC discussion. Welcome aboard, everyone.
To get this board moving, since I've already seen some of a scouting report on Northwestern, why else should SJU be worried about the Eagles?
Where will NWC finish in the UMAC this year? Should they be afraid of Martin Luther again?
Apparently, we have no UMAC fans :-[
I don't see why Northwestern wouldn't be the favorite to win the UMAC title this year. If the recruits live up to the hype, you also might see a good game with the Johnnies.
And you may be right, the UMAC is not yet a d3 conference and as such the fans haven't looked into this sort of site to follow the teams.
And the one who is here needed three personal invitations before he joined up.
AO, who else should we look for? Has Crown reaped any benefits after playing for a financial reward against SJU two years ago? Has that translated into better recruits?
How do you explain NWC losing to Martin Luther last year?
Is it so wrong for a Crown football team to play St. John's? Or even a Northwestern in your mind. I thought we all had the Division 3 mentality that we aren't about the money. If I'm the athletic Director I want to schedule a game or two against teams in a better division, maybe schedule a UMD or like last year, a Lindenwood. The Losing team will seem overmmatched but if they keep putting themselves against competition like that, they are going to rise to the challenge. Like I've made the case before, the athletes are there, some of the intangibles aren't there in a teams with little tradition and little experience playing against big-time teams.
and when did I get three personal invitations?
I've never said it was wrong for UMAC teams to schedule MIAC teams. I don't think it is wrong for Crown to schedule SJU. I don't think it's wrong for NWC to schedule SJU (although there are others, particularly from the Northwest Conference, who may disagree). You may be a bit pie-in-the-sky about your chances, but you've been told that plenty of times recently.
Seriously, I do think you may be a bit naive to think that such a game is all about the football.
Read this article if you have the chance. http://www.crown.edu/index.php?id=62&backPID=8&begin_at=18&tt_news=233
It's a piece by Dan Barreiro in the Strib from 2003 regarding the Crown/SJU game. While it discusses Crown's desire to play, I'll bring the relevant quote that stuck out in my mind: "I talked to [offensive coordinator Jim Gagliardi] during the summer, and he asked if I knew anybody who had an open date the week before the playoffs," Auer recalled. "They wanted to play that week. I thought about it, talked to my coaches and players, and we decided to go for it. We need to build onto our press box, and we need other help with the program, and with the guarantee they give us, this is a great opportunity."
I know it is D3, but in this world of declining athletic budgets and increased importance on donor dollars, athletics are a major connection that colleges are using to keep afloat. It's a fact of the matter that you have to pay the piper to keep going. Sad, but that's reality.
Every year Duke schedules Florida State. Baylor schedules Texas. Not to bring up a story close to home, but Mac used to schedule SJU. These are teams with a decent amount of historical tradition that tried to rise against schools that combine tradition with resources, and while they'll win a game here and there, it won't be the case of consistent success.
By the way, calling Hamline, Gustavus, or Carleton squads with little tradition is pretty short-sighted. Ask why Carleton has such a big stadium sometime, or how Gagliardi was asked if he could beat St. Olaf or Gustavus when he was hired. They have plenty of tradition-- success has been hard to come by, however, for these squads recently, though all have won MIAC titles within the past 18 years, I beleive.
You make a good point there. Crown is reaping some benefits from playing that sort of game. Whatever bit of money that may have been involved was probably put to good use along with the recruiting tool of saying that you play teams like
St. John's occasionally. If you're a guy like me you want to hear that the team you're going to play for doesn't just dominate a conference, but rather tries to schedule teams that are seemingly on a whole different level of gameplay. Such as, a St. John's scheduling St. Cloud State. I feel like St. John's doesn't schedule the d2's because they are afraid of cutting into gag's record number of wins. Maybe? I don't know.
AO, SJU last played SCSU in 1983, after SJU had won 9 of the last 10 meetings between the squads and held a 37-18-1 all-time record over the Huskies. SJU played D-2 Bemidji State (NAIA then?) during the 1990s as well and took 3 of 4 from the Beavers as well. That, and the Jays' playoff record, speak for itself regarding Gags' fear of scheduling tough opponents.
Back to UMAC football, I read the kickoff-- tell me your predicted order of UMAC finish.
SJU playing SCSU is also on a different level than Crown playing SJU. SCSU offers scholarships and is a much bigger school. With the UMAC transitioning to d-III, it only seems nautral to schedule d-III opponents. SJU is not in the position of moving to d-II, so why play them. Also, there is no motivation for SCSU to play SJU. If they'd win, it wouldn't help their ratings or get them any respect. If they'd lose, they'd be the laughing stock of the NCC.
Quote from: AO on August 23, 2005, 04:44:14 PMIf I'm the athletic Director I want to schedule a game or two against teams in a better division, maybe schedule a UMD or like last year, a Lindenwood.
In scheduling St. John's, you are scheduling a team from a better division. Northwestern isn't a full member of Division III yet -- it's less than one month into a four-year process of entry.
Quote from: AO on August 23, 2005, 04:44:14 PMand when did I get three personal invitations?
On the MIAC board.
Well i'm glad i can discuss the UMAC in here with Johnnie Fans, but i wasn't going to start a discussion with myself with no other visible fans of the UMAC on this board. Which is to be expected as Pat has stated that we are just entering DIII as a conference. But I, being the biased fan and player that I am do not believe that the MIAC is the large step up that some of you think that it is from the kind of competition that Northwestern teams see regularly. Northwestern teams have regularly played against some of the better NAIA teams in the country from Illinois, Missouri and Iowa. The basketball team which I am a member of will be playing for a spot in the NCCAA division 1 basketball tournament which features teams with some very talented and athletic scholarship athletes. No, the UMAC is going to win a majority of games versus the MIAC in football right now, but if you look at the other major sports such as Basketball, Baseball and maybe Soccer, the two conferences would look very even right now.
Again, moving from NAIA II to NCAA III is really not a step-up. We made the move so that we would be more competitive with teams than we were with some of the better NAIA II schools who gave out athletic scholarships while we did not.
AO, we can agree to disagree on that point-- that's fine, so please, can you drop the chip off your shoulder and talk some football?
So let's talk some UMAC-- who else will challenge NWC for the UMAC title? Why won't Martin Luther beat NWC? What about the South Division?
Quote from: AO on August 24, 2005, 03:45:46 PM
i wasn't going to start a discussion with myself with no other visible fans of the UMAC on this board.
Well, you
sure weren't going to start a UMAC discussion on the MIAC board. You can't start one if you don't try.
Hey Johnnie, my thoughts on the UMAC south division will be Rockford, Westminster then Blackburn for my top three. Those are my personal thoughts not based on knowledge. GO REGENTS!
Based upon Westminster's strong returning group and a perfect record in the south division last year including a 20-7 defeat of Rockford, Westminster has got to be the favorite in the south.
Westminster has just two returning starters on offense and nine overall. How strong can that group be?
Rockford has this game at home as well. I don't know if you have to make Westminster the favorite. There's room for debate.
I said those are my thoughts, unfortunately my thoughts are seldom correct GO REGENTS
I am constantly impressed by you Pat, you're right again, 16 starters were lost to graduation. I had thought that Robbie Coleman had another year, but I guess I thought wrong. By the time Westminster does play Rockford the new starters should be confident in their roles. In either case I'd take a team from the North Division to be the heavy favorite in the dome day game for the outright conference championship.
So what about the North Division? Tell me about Martin Luther- can they repeat against NWC?
As a former UMAC player, I feel that any competition outside the UMAC is great for that conference. Nortwestern should always be the favorite for the conference nobody can challenge them since Mount Senario died.
Minn-Morris would be my favorite in the north but Nothwestern will be a close second... Martin Luther's reign has come to an end due to the fact that much of their talent has graduated... Don't get me wrong they will hustle to the ball on defense and will be a tough matchup for Morris and Northwestern.
This is a blatantly shameless plug, but...
My book, "Keeping the faith: In the trenches with college football's worst team," comes out Thursday (Sept. 1). It's the story of the Trinity Bible College club, focusing on their 2004 season, along with some stuff from 2003 (the 105-0 game). Obviously, it focuses on Trinity, but there is a fair amount of information on the other UMAC teams (particularly Rockford and Principia).
The book should be available in most bookstores, and it's also available on Amazon. There's more information and a review from Publishers Weekly up on www.shawnfury.com
Also, you can read the introduction at the web site.
I'm a St. John's grad so I've been a big fan of small-college football for years. I think the book will appeal to fans of any level, but particularly D3.
So tell me more about Morris-- I know little about them. How will they beat NWC? Or on the other hand, how will NWC stop them?
Hey that book actually sounds interesting a buddy of mine had a career high recieving game agaisnt TBB back in 97. On his 1st catch he tore his MCL and partially tore his ACL and went on to set the school record for single game yardage and catches. The following week he Finished his knee off down at Concordia Mequon. That guy was a freak of nature.
Nobody will be taking UMAC picks this weekend? Here's the schedule:
Principia College Southwest Assemblies of God
Northwestern College Lakeland College
Trinity Bible College Haskell
Westminster College Coe College
Rockford College Eureka College
Blackburn College Illinois College
Martin Luther College Luther College
Univ. of Minnesota-Morris Mayville State
And my outsider picks:
Principia, NWC, Haskell, Coe, Rockford, Blackburn, Luther, and Mayville.
I would take SWAG, Lakeland, Haskell, Coe, Rockford, IC, Luther, Morris.
Principia College v. Southwest Assemblies of God - Principia
Northwestern College v. Lakeland College - Lakeland
Trinity Bible College - Haskell - Haskell
Westminster College v. Coe College - Coe
Rockford College v. Eureka College - Rockford
Blackburn College v. Illinois College - BLACKBURN (new era at Blackburn College)
Martin Luther College v. Luther College - Luther
Univ. of Minnesota-Morris v. Mayville State - UM-Morris
maybe my pumping up of Northwestern conviced johnnie_esq that we were pretty good. Enough that he would pick us over lakeland, a team that beat us 47-7 at home last year. We did get them angry enough with our single touchdown last year that one of the lakeland coaches punched a hole through our press box wall, however. With the game in sheboygan, it's going to be a difficult task this afternoon.
Blackburn plays tough vs. Illinois College
Blackburn is a young team who showed some good things but had a few breakdowns...
Blackburn was tied 7-7 at half but end up loosing 7-28... The beavers lone touchdown came off a 20 + yrd TD pass from Gruver to Dwiggins with 15 sec left in the first half... Defense played well and had some big plays but in the end the Beavers fall short!!!
Northwestern fans: we will be hosting a Stiftungsfestivities tailgate party this coming Saturday at Bethel in the parking lot by the stadium. Since Central College is coming to town, we thought it would be a good idea to host the tailgate party there and invite the St. John's and Northwestern fans to join us since Northwestern is so close. Starting time will be 10:30 a.m. Bring some food to share. Best burgers in the state are on the house.
Johnnie Red
I'm glad to see that there is some discussion going on in here. I think that the South is going to be the stronger division this year. From my reports, and I haven't verified this yet but Martin Luther and Minn-Morris did not have great years recruiting. Last I heard ML brought in like 12 freshmen and MM only brought in 18 freshmen. That would leave Crown, Trinity, and Northwestern. Now out of those 3 who would you take. Northwestern will not get challenged in the North this year. In the South though it's a different story. Blackburn brought in a pile of kids, Maranatha always plays hard especially on defense, Rockford only lost 3 starters on offense and 4 on defense. As for Westminster, they only brought in 22 kids and have only 9 seniors. Only 6 are starting I think. The rest are sophomores. They got rolled by Coe. QB gone, Coleman gone, Gastler gone, along with Bruck and the rest of the defense. Colby Beal is going to have to put the defense on his shoulders if they are going to stop anybody. I think this year it will be interesting to see who wins the South except for Prin. Those Three teams will fight it out for the 8:00 pm spot in the dome. My prediction will be Rockford. Any different thoughts?
Good to see the interest in the UMAC beginning to pick up. I would assume that more people will chime in once they know where this is located and the season gets started.
This year's dome day championships (Oct. 28th, MPLS Metrodome) will once again feature good match-ups.
The UMAC will be undergoing some changes beginning in 2008 - Rockford and Maranatha will join as members of the Lake Michigan which will sponsor football. Plans are in the works for adding independent members of the Illini Badger conference which will fold after the 2007 season.
There are also other colleges interested in joining the UMAC north division (some of which are exploring adding football at this time).
The conference is in discussions with the NCAA about the AQ - the jury is still out on the interpretation of an affiliated conference in reference to the UMAC - six of the ten members are already DIII with the rest in the process of membership. Adding current DIII members could potentially speed up the process.
Matt - UMAC Commissioner for Football
AO, I would have expected a better showing from a team that is supposed to compete with SJU.
After watching Kofoed tear apart UWEC 25 for 29 and SJU controlling the line of scrimmage against bigger Blugold lines, I just don't see how the Eagles can even make it a game.
Can someone give me the lowdown on NWC's facilities? Is there even a stadium?
Yes, there is even a stadium.
I think NWC has pretty good facilities. The stadium has a nice atmosphere around it and the campus is scenic. I don't know about the weightroom, office, etc. but I'm sure that it no SJU! Cant beat Clemens Stadium!
I figured there was a stadium, but just wanted to be prepared to bring my lawn chair in case ::) I didn't see any info on their website.
From www.gojohnnies.com
"Please note there is limited seating for the game at Northwestern and fans should bring chairs and blankets to sit on to watch Saturday's game."
I wasn't so off base, now, was i ;D
I don't know that anything really competes with Clemen's Stadium in any division for a football stadium. I can tell you that Reynolds Field has natural grass, bleachers for maybe 1500 and a modern athletic facility (the Ericksen Center) that fits our school pretty well. During Homecoming we'll fit 3 or 4 thousand around the field somewhat comfortably. You may also notice that the baseball field is in the northwest corner and the softball field in the northeast. If the dugouts were not being renovated currently, I kind of thought that some Johnnie fans might like to sit on top to watch the game. It's bigger than my high school's stadium anyways.
Thanks for the info? Are there bleachers on both sides or only one? How many NW fans are there usually?
There are permanent bleachers only on the south side of the field. For the St. John's game I'm sure a few sets of metal bleachers will be set up, but nothing too large for the Johnnie fans side of the stadium. Northwestern fans are pretty notorious for coming to the game late so don't be too surprised if the home bleachers look pretty empty for the kickoff, but hopefully we've been getting the word out to the students so that they show up for the game on saturday. Should be another beautiful day for football.
Last year Northwestern averaged right around 1000 fans per game with 2500 coming for the homecoming game against Crown. I would be disappointed if the attendance wasn't over 2000 on saturday.
Yeah, there might be 2000 thousand there but probably 1200 will be Johnnie's fans. It's kind of embarrassing when the visitors bring in more fans than the home team. I'm calling the score right now. It's not going to be pretty and the final score is.........49-3.......NORTHWESTERN!!!!!!! Just Kidding!
Exciting year for the South in the UMAC this year!!! Some improvement from Blackburn will make the south up for grabs!!!
I think your right Ganno! I looked on the Blackburn website and it only showed that they brought in like 35 freshmen. I thought they brought in over 50. I guess Skip must of ran off 17 of those freshmen during camp. He's old school! But seriously, I think that Blackburn will make things a little more interesting in the south this year. I like their QB. He's got alot of potential. Are they still running the same offense now that Ja. Davis is gone? I would think they would open in up a little and use that QB more?
I was looking forward to seeing how Rockford's offense would play with out their leading rusher from last year Feehan that kid was a work horse. Well they looked hard nosed on both sides of the ball, I just don't no much about there opponent Eureke college. RC lost to them in double overtime last year and won saturday 35-10( which only mean's they lost one and won one ) Wisconsin Lutheran this saturday, their first game on their new field, they lost to Valpo 17-3 last saturday I think, This game maybe a good test for both schools.
I think the Regents will be okay this year especially with their FB. He's a horse. He had over 200 yards on 34 carries last week. Passing attack went well I heard. Senior QB with an offense that is balanced but run dominant when needed. The only thing Rockford has to worry about what hotel they want to stay in after they win the conference in the Metrodome! Go Regents!
Not alot of talk about crown college or Maranatha are these schools still very very religious or have they come into the 21st century. I see crown changed their mascot. I liked the old UMAC with Concordia St. paul and NW wisconsin. Has trinity been able to win any games. I spent one of the coldest days of my life their coaching on a saturday
Northwestern fans, hope to see you at the Stiftungsfestivities tailgate party tomorrow morning at Bethel in the parking lot by the football stadium. Event starts at 10:00 a.m. Bring some food to share.
Well Johnnie fans, looks like you guys really put the boots to Northwestern. Not like I was expecting an upset or anything but come on. Hope the pre and post game activities went well. I do want to congratulate Trinity on their first win in 3 years. I never thought I would see the day!
Southfan, would you believe that the game was 7-7 in the 2nd quarter? NWC played well and SJU wasn't in sync. Had SJU not turned the ball over 5 times it could have been worse than it was.
I was half expecting AO in here complementing his Eagles on being competitive, too. While they kept it close for a quarter and never gave up (and should be complemented), they have a long way to go.
johnnie_esq: I allready made my comments on page 71 of the MIAC board, so you can go see my fair and accurate review of the game there. Of course I thought Northwestern played well and proved that they could play with a st. john's team. We started a freshmen at quarterback who did not start the previous week for us, so this was his first collegiate game, and yet we tied the game at 7 in the second quarter. Northwestern should have won the 1st half.
I say plenty more controversial things in the MIAC forum and Duffman has allready taken offense to a few of them if you want to check it out.
Quoteproved that they could play with a st. john's team
Hmm, not sure I would go that far, unless you're talking about playing with a mythical team of St. John's second-stringers.
Were you there, Pat? Were you there to see Northwestern force 5 St. John's fumbles? Were you there to see a Northwestern quarterback in his first collegiate game throw a 20 yard touchdown pass to another freshmen receiver to tie the game in the second quarter? And then on the ensuing johnnie drive, did you see the fabled offensive line fail to make a hole amongst seemingly overmatched defensive lineman who pushed the Johnnies around and allowed a Northwestern linebacker to force yet another fumble which was recovered in Johnnie territory?
Did you see the 74 yards of rushing the eagles accumulated as compared to the 5 yards given up by the Johnnies the week before to the #22 team in the nation in UW-Eau Claire?
Perhaps the real myth here is that St. John's is an invincible force of nature that cannot be touched by a UMAC opponent.
Scoreboard.
I also look at the actual box score and see you were credited with three forced fumbles, not five. Not sure I can give Northwestern credit for unforced fumbles.
AO,
I think you need to wake up, grab Toto and get the heck out of Oz and return to the UMAC!!!!!! I was not at the game but I think that if it 7-7 in the second quarter, Gag's probably did something he has never done before....SCREAM AT HIS KIDS!!! I'm not saying that Northwestern can't play anybody tough but lets see here. St. John's travel roster is I'm guessing 70 at the most. Northwestern plobably has 80? kids total on the roster. Those 70 Johnnies are just as good as the starting 22 from Northwestern. It is not physically or numerically possible that Northwestern will every beat St. John's. And when you say that they can hang with them that's just as crazy as saying they are going to beat them. And remember football is a game of 4 quarters, not 2. Northwestern might have tied the first half but got it handed to them in the second. There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home..........
It was 20-7 at the half.
What, St. John's fumble the ball themselves? Somebody must be penalized from the other team. Lofboom, Beaudry, and Luberts coughed it up, one after another in 3 consecutive St. John's possesions. These were all forced fumbles proving that Northwestern's defense is a force that St. John's had a very difficult time reckoning with. I really doubt Gagliardi did any yelling, but I wouldn't really know as I was across the field from him in our press box at the time. Actually come to think of it, I did see him leaving the press box at the half, but I had no idea he was in there. Maybe they wanted to keep him out of the sun or something, I don't know. I'm not really one for moral victories, but Northwestern did show that they can play with Saint John's.
20-7 at the half for St. John's could have easily been the other way around with the Johnnies getting their scores with uncalled holding penalties and a very risky decision to go for it on 4th and goal from the 9 yard line.
Can play with St. John's. It ended up 57-7!!! You call that playing with them. If it was 20-7 at the end of the game then I would be praising Northwestern for their efforts but remember 4 quarters! Face facts, Northwestern is not ready to be called a team that is at the top or even middle of DIII which I'm thinking you are hinting at....
I want to congratulate our Trinity Bible College Lions for snapping the infamous 31-game losing streak that dates back to 2001. New lion head coach Jim Dotson and staff have done an excellent job with the 30 players they have on their roster.
Trinity travelled nearly 20 hours on the bus to get to Elsah, IL. They didn't show any signs of jet lag, however, as the TBC defense stopped Principia on their opening drive. Lion freshman Mike Anderson carried the load on their first offensive possession, capping off an 11-play, 77 yard drive with a 13 yd. touchdown run up the middle. The lions added a second score midway through the 2nd when quarterback Dusty Hess connected with flanker Tony Snyder for 58 yds and a TD. Principia threatened near the end of the first half as they marched down deep into lion territory before safety Stan Bedwell picked off a third down pass by panther quarterback Kyle Gillum. The teams went into the locker room with a score of 12-0.
Trinity took the kickoff in the 2nd half and marched down to the panther 3 yd. line (due in part to a 37 yd. run by Snyder). Principia put up a goal line stand, denying TBC on four straight runs up the middle. Gillum then led his team 97 yards down the field, finishing the drive with a 13 yd. scoring strike to Ian Wightman. The extra point attempt was no good. Trinity's Akeem Micheli answered the panthers with a 43 yd. kickoff return to the Principia 49. It only took Trinity three plays to score, as Anderson went 2 yds. off the right tackle for his second score of the ball game. Hess connected with tight end Scott Rassmussen on the conversion attempt to give Trinity a 20-6 edge with 7:26 remaining in the 3rd.
Gillum led his team to one more score in the 3rd, connecting with Schyuler Onderdonk for a 13 yd. touchdown. The score remained 20-12 throughout the 4th quarter, until the final moments when Gillum QB sneaked the ball into the endzone with just 1:05 remaining on the clock. For the third time of the day, Principia failed to convert on the conversion as Gillum's pass grazed off a diving receiver's hands and fell to the ground. TBC recovered the onside kick and took a knee until the clock struck 0:00.
Anderson led the lions on the ground with 35 carries for 179 yds and 2 TD. Hess completed 7-13 passes for 140 yds and a TD. The recipient of the TD pass, Snyder, finished with 5 receptions for 117 yds.
Defensively for the lions, Heston Huwa finished with 8 tackles and Andrew Snead added 7, along with 4 pass break-ups. Will Hill, Andrew Vrabel, and Mike Antunucci all had 6 tackles on the day. Hill also had a clutch interception deep in Principia territory late in the 4th quarter. Micheli and Rasmussen finished with 5 tackles on the day and Bedwell had 4 tackles and an INT.
Gillum led the panther attack, completing 24-51 passes for 272 yds with 2 TD/2 INT. He also ran for 22 yds and a score. Onderdonk finished with 10 receptions for 121 yds and a score. Wightman ended his day with 120 yds total offense and a TD reception. Jeff Gibbs had 18 tackles for the panthers. CJ Wilsnack and Steve Crump finished with 12 and 11, respectively.
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TBC's Mike Anderson ran for 179 yds and 2 TD's.
Thanks for checking in. How many guys on the roster this year?
Pat, Sounds like it's again right around 30.
What, you expect me to read the whole post? :) Apparently I skipped that sentence.
AO,
I'm generally a nice guy, but also not one to mince words. Your logic is idiotic.
Forced fumbles do not equal defense. Your defense gave up an average of 5.2 yards per carry. That is not because the Johnnies held on every play. And it's quite obvious that you have never played football because holding on the interior line happens every play, every team.
So, you started a new QB. SJU was missing quite a bit, too (LB, TE, RB).
The fact of the matter is your team was beat in every aspect of that game. Did they make some nice plays, sure they did, but to say that you were competitve in a 57-7 pounding is just plain stupid.
The only one putting SJU on a pedestal here is you. The rest of us are being fairly reasonable.
Have a great season tearing up the UMAC.
Actually I missed it in the post too, Pat, just went by what I had heard.
And the one point about SJU going for it on a "risky" fourth down play ignores about 53 years of SJU football. They more often than not go for it on fourth down by the goal line. I remember the first time Bethel beat the Johnnies in 99, SJU going for it twice within the 10 instead of kicking the field goal. It cost them that game, but it's a fairly normal part of their games.
Duffman, you were almost making some sense till you said "the only one putting SJU on a pedestal here is you. The rest of us are being fairly reasonable." I'm willing to admit my bias, but alas, I am just one man. Seems like 99% of the posters here would pick Saint John's over any UMAC opponent simply based upon the fact that they are st. john's and have such great tradition. They also believe that they have such superior athletes that nobody can compare to them. I find those assumptions to be false. I did not get to see a lot of the second half as head out to work the women's soccer game for Northwestern, but anyone who saw the 35 minutes of football that I saw could have been very convinced that on a different day, Northwestern would be on top rather than the Johnnies. The game was far from over when it began, despite what d3football.com might think.
The site doesn't think. People who help run the site think, but the site itself has yet to be upgraded with any artificial intelligence modules.
Listen, AO, 35 minutes isn't an entire game. Someone who saw the 25 minutes you didn't see certainly would have gotten a vastly different impression -- one backed up by the final score.
Thankfully, the rulemakers of football have agreed upon 60 minutes as the length of a college game, sparing us the occasional flukiness. But then again, even at the 35-minute mark Northwestern was still losing.
Let's be honest, on your proverbial "different day" it's far more likely Northwestern would be down 28-7 at the end of the first and down 77-7 at the end of the game. Face facts -- you are not in the same league, both literally and figuratively.
Quote from: AO on September 12, 2005, 09:06:00 PM
The game was far from over when it began, despite what d3football.com might think.
Yes, it's always 0-0 with 60 minutes left at the beginning ;D
99% of the posters would pick SJU over a UMAC opponent because most posters are quite passionate about d3 football and have been the MIAC for quite a while. Myself, I played at SJU for 4 years, have been a rabid fan for the past 2 and change, and watched several years before I played there. We base our predicitons on watching SJU pound Crown and NW the past couple of years, and by seeing how the rest of the MIAC teams fare against UMAC teams. SJU has given people a reason to believe in them for a long time, no matter who the opponent.
How many d3 teams outside of the UMAC have you seen in your life? It's tough to judge how your conference stacks up when you haven't seen teams from the MIAC, IIAC, WIAC, OAC, NWC, etc. Pat Coleman has seen too many to count, I'm sure, and the Johnnie fans on the MIAC board have all seen their share of those teams.
And I, myself, give great respect to what the publishers of d3football.com say. They know more of d3 football than anyone should, and do a great job of providing information to the rest of us.
Northwestern can not be compared to Crown in terms of athletics. You stereotype the whole conference with so little knowledge. And in terms of WIAC, IIAC, I made the case of UW-Eau Claire only being able to gain 5 yards rushing vrs. 75 for Northwestern and Eau Claire being down 28-7 at the half I believe before Reif started to get blocked all over the place.
Football is pretty much the last remaining sport where the UMAC has traditionally struggled winning games against the MIAC, but you can see improvements all over the place from year to year. And of course Northwestern has been beating Hamline, Carleton and Augsburg when given the chance to play them. Surprisingly, we are 0-4 against Macalester, but I don't really feel like the nightcap on October 8th will be much trouble for the Eagles as you probably didn't feel like we were going to give St. John's a game. Maybe St. John's should have scheduled a Linfield or Hardin-Simmons, but I was very happy to see SJU on the schedule as we aren't going to see the gap between conferences close when we do not play each other.
Quote from: AO on September 12, 2005, 10:34:08 PM
You stereotype the whole conference with so little knowledge.
I stereotype the UMAC based on seeing NW and Crown play, Trinity BC's losing streak, and Principia recently having 80 points put up on them (by some school I've never heard of, no less). What big wins has your conference had over any ranked teams?
And what "knowledge" do you have that makes your views more valid than ours? Had you ever seen SJU play before 2004? And, again, have you ever seen a WIAC, IIAC, OAC, NWC, or any other team from a respected conference? What basis do you have for saying your team (or conference) can be competitive with SJU? Because if all your basing it on is a few fumbles and a 7-7 score in the first quarter, that's not much solid ground to be standing on.
I'm glad you're admitting to putting SJU on a pedestal. Trinity did break their losing streak this weekend (by beating Principia). I can't think of any big wins over ranked teams. Of course I couldn't really come up with any games that a umac team has played against a ranked d3 team, besides Saint John's of course. I think it might be just a few years before you do start to see maybe a Westminster or Northwestern beating a ranked team. The real trouble in football is scheduling those programs as there what maybe 2 nonconference teams and most teams have other NAIA rivals that they traditionaly have played and such. Maybe no team will be competitive with St. John's this year. That doesn't mean that the UMAC is not competitive with the MIAC. I think Northwestern, Martin Luther, Rockford or Westminster could easily be in the middle of the MIAC this year.
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Quote from: AO on September 12, 2005, 11:08:18 PM
That doesn't mean that the UMAC is not competitive with the MIAC. I think Northwestern, Martin Luther, Rockford or Westminster could easily be in the middle of the MIAC this year.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I doubt SJU beats Hamline 57-7. The only chance NW would have of beating a MIAC team would be if Mac was still in.
I don't know about Martin Luther, Rockford, or Westminster, but if NWC is any representation, UMAC schools would be lucky to have more than 2 conference wins if they were in the MIAC>
AO--
You just pointed out NWC stacking up against the teams who have been the worst in the MIAC over the last 6 years. You are 3-2 versus Ham and Car since 1999 and 0-4 against my alma mater MAC--a team deemed unable to compete in the MIAC.
NWC finishing in the middle of the MIAC? C'mon man.
OneArmedScot
AO, pretty easy to pick those teams as contenders in the MIAC when UMM just got beat by Hamline, who is picked to finish DEAD LAST in the MIAC by not only the unofficial poster poll for the MIAC, but by the coaches as well. Hamline held Morris to -13 yards rushing. Yet the four picked above UMM in the UMAC coaches' poll would be middle of the pack in the MIAC? You are something else!
I have asked about the other contenders in the UMAC and I have not heard you mention the quality squads besides NWC in the UMAC. Why again will NWC beat Martin Luther? Can Morris win the UMAC as a darkhorse? How much knowledge do you have of your own conference?
Do you really think that SJU came out with the same intensity against NWC like they did against UWEC?
And it was your coach who put the frosh qb in-- not injury, but your coach believed he would be a better fit against the Johnnies. a 50 point difference later, do you think he made the right choice?
You have said it yourselves, Northwestern has been beating Carleton, Hamline and it would be a pretty major upset if we did not beat Macalester this year. Beating carleton and Hamline would put us near the middle of the MIAC as Gustavus had only 2 wins last year and finished in 6th place so seemingly we could finish with a mere 2 wins and finish 6th out of 10. And as far as the UMAC is concerned, we did not win the UMAC last year, so there is more talent out there besides Northwestern.
The other option for a quarterback wasn't much better as far as experience goes, so I don't know if that played a huge factor in the decision to go with the quarterback who a has a little better running ability.
NWC wouldn't finish in the middle of the pack in the Lake Conference or even the Central Lakes conferece.
Those are high school conferences for those of you keeping score at home.
AO- a combined 3-6 against MAC, Hamline and Carleton since 1999 does not make you middle of the MIAC. It makes you dead last in most years and second to last the rest of them. Considering that NWC has been at or near the top of the UMAC since that time does not exactly advance your claim.
GAC nearly beat #23 Wheaton (in nearly beat I mean holding a lead in the fourth quarter, not tied or down by two scores in the second quarter). NWC lost at home by 50 to the number 9 team in the country and SJU turned the ball over 5 times. Middle of the MIAC pack? Tell that to St. Olaf or St. Thomas!
If the other QB wasn't much better, how come you continue to make the excuse that you started a new QB and that makes a difference? Kofoed alone almost beat UWEC in his first quarter last year as a frosh...
David and Goliath could have agrued for a while too fellas. Reality is that SJU is a perrenial powerhouse. If teams want to get better you hvae to play better teams. I remember taking a whoopin from # 9 in the country DII Valdosta State as a sophmore. That is what will help build your program. When you get whooped admit it find the silver lining, but don't talk smack about a team that has more playoff appearences than your schools best single season record.
- Oh We were a UMAC school when we played VS and we won the conference that year.
esq_ the macalester losses were in the 80s, not post 1999. 3-2 not 3-6. and i'm not smack talking the Johnnies, I'm building up the Eagles.
Yeah, Hamline has been 14-47 overall, 8-43 MIAC since 1999 and Carleton has been 5-15 overall, 2-14 MIAC since 2003 (sorry, that's as far back as I could find). Real "middle of the pack" in the MIAC.
OAS,
Why no mention of the UMAC in your Around the Region?
They are a middle of the pack conference after all!
My mistake, AO. I misunderstood OAS and should have done the research (thanks, AJ >:( )
Duff, Carleton has been 4-47 in the MIAC since 1999. Ouch.
Since 1999, NWC has been 3-4 against MIAC opponents for a 43% winning percentage (and that is playing Carleton and Hamline a total of 5 times and SJU twice). Meanwhile, the 5th place team in the MIAC has posted a 31-20 record in conference (61%) and a 37-23 (62%) record overall since 1999. And that means playing more than just Hamline and Carleton-- having to beat two out of Augsburg, St. Olaf, St. Thomas and Gustavus to put you in that spot. Any of those teams will certainly give SJU a good quarter and keep it close.
Keep in mind that SJUers don't mind UMACers playing MIAC squads. Play whomever you want. What bothers us is equating a winning record over Carleton and Hamline to regular success over UST, STO, or GAC. If you follow MIAC football you would know that the two do not go hand-in-hand.
AO,
Please, get over it already. NWC put up a good fight. For that you should be proud.
Build on that.
NWC was not competitive with SJU. If SJU and NWC play 10 times, SJU wins 10 times.
Minimum margin of victory being 40 points.
If St. John's came out with the same intensity as they did against UWEC the prior week it would have been difficult to keep the margin of victory below 100.
There are huge gaps in talent between football teams at all levels. The gap between NWC and St. John's was clearly reflected by the 57-7 score. Just the plain facts. I for one hope NWC can close that gap in the future. Makes it more fun for everyone.
What is everyone's thoughts/predictions for week 3?
Principia @ Northwestern
Blackburn @ Trinity Bible
Westminster @ MN-Morris
Rockford @ Crown
Maranatha @ Martin Luther
You fellas are making all of my points for me. The middle of the road teams in the MIAC normally do play St. John's much like Northwestern did. St. Olaf, Augsburg, Gustavus and St. Thomas seem to play along with the Johnnies for a while before the game gets out of hand in the second half and the Johnnies win by 30 or 40. I mean in a down year for St. John's last year, Bethel was not able to score aganst St. John's and lost 37-0. Since Northwestern hasn't had a chance to play those four teams except for Augsburg in the early 90s, you can't really tell what the game would be like, but it sure would seem that Northwestern would compete. Gustavus, by the way is my sleeper pick in the MIAC, the way their defense held Wheaton, I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Bethel and Saint John's or Concordia. Anyways, I think it's about time we moved onto week 3.
AO, have you seen SJU play any other games except against NWC?
It is absolutely clear that SJU did not take the game against NWC seriously. Gags did not request tapes from NWC, apparently. He started out the game in the press box on a beautiful day. It was clear the team was responding to him by going through the motions themselves. In spite of that, SJU still won by 50 points. SJU scouts MIAC opponents (in terms of tapes-- whatever is allowed). Even then, SJU does not win all its MIAC games by 30-40 points (though I wouldn't mind if we did).
By the way, it is clear you were not at that Bethel-SJU game. SJU came out on a mission-- one of the only times they did that last year-- and played about as well a game as possible. If you could take a score differential between teams and comparisons, you may find that SJU would beat Minnesota this year. SJU could take SCSU most years, but the U of M? I don't think so!
Anyway, NWC will beat Principia, Blackburn will start a new streak for Trinity, Westminster over the Cougars, Rockford over Crown, and Martin Luther over Maranatha.
If a team does not bring its best effort to the field for every play and against every opponent, they do not deserve to be thought of so well. I have a hard time believing a team like SJU would make such a stupid mistake by underestimating an athletic Northwestern team. You have no business playing the game if you can't get up to play on Saturday. I believe they were up, Northwestern just made some better plays in the first half. Don't blame your team for what we did to them.
Margin of victory is not commutative. You can't simply say that because two teams lost to the same school by 50 that those two are equal.
I wish we had something better to compare with, but in football with each team playing so few games against similar opponents, you're pretty much forced to if you want to compare a Northwestern and St. Olaf or Augsburg showdown.
Today in class I was day dreaming what it would be like if football had a schedule more like basketball and baseball more like football. I just want more football and more meaningful baseball games!
Right on! Northwestern is on the right track with the Trinity Bible College/Macalester Doubleheader.
looks like NWC has it right!
AO, stupid mistake? Let me reiterate the score: 57-7. That is a seven touchdown difference without special preparation. SJU concentrated on getting healthy after playing a respectable UWEC team. If that isn't acceptable to you, fine. But SJU hopes to be playing into December, so every week SJU can rest is welcomed.
I love that logic. Last year SJU loses to STO by 2 points but beats NWC by 48. Ergo, St. Olaf beats NWC by 50. But SJU beats BU by 37, so NWC would be competitive with Bethel, losing only by 11. ???
I'm done with this matter-- your head is high among the clouds and not even brimming with reality. Even SNC fans are closer to Earth than you!
Think of SJU whatever you will-- I can't tell how how to think. But if you want to get an accurate picture, experience it for yourself: read "Sweet Season", visit the campus not as an opponent, and meet the players and coaches yourself. If you email John Gagliardi, he will email you back (though during football season it will not be his priority). Come watch SJU in a MIAC game at Clemens. Don't rely on 1) this board and 2) your biased experience watching NWC play SJU one and a half times to form a full opinion. The only crime would be to form an opinion without even trying to find that accurate picture.
For the last time, I am not insulting St. John's ability to play the game of football. I do not think they are overrated. I grew up in central minnesota and know the program pretty well. They will have a lot of success this year. Because I respect the SJU program so much, I give credit to any team that is able to compete with them at any point in the game. It is my prediction that the Johnnies will dominate Carleton this weekend from the opening kickoff, and this has to be one of Carleton's better programs in recent years with an opening victory a couple weeks ago against Beloit.
I never said we would be competitive with Bethel, but that sure would be a fun game to attend. We have a natural rivalry being so close and both being pretty conservative and strictly christian. But you can only schedule so many games in football, or basketball for that matter, we couldn't get them on either schedule this year.
Okay guys I think AO get's it now. His team is not a middle of the pack MIAC team. I like twisting the knife in people but I'm getting sick of hearing about the Northwestern & St. Johns game. If we really want to talk about something lets take a poll of who else is going to lose to Trinity this year. I hear the Little Sisters of the Poor are down this year and could be looking at a Loss when they clash heads with Trinity B. Any thoughts?
So Hamline stopped Morris on the ground, but not through the air. Will that play a part as to how things will end up in the UMAC, or was Hamline putting 10 guys in the box?
Outside of Northwestern and Rockford, I personally believe that Trinity has a chance to beat the rest of their opponents, provided everyone stays healthy. They are one of the best coached teams in the league and should only improve as the season goes on.
AO,
have our teams ever hooking up for a game? Our game could be the battle for the "Holy Grail" or something. You play crown right? Maybe you should suggest that for that game
tbcfootball,
What planet are you living on? There is no way that Trinity is going to win another game. They will get rolled by every team in the north and will get a chance to play Principia in the dome in the "Toilet Bowl." I'm excited that Trinity finally won but lets not get crazy about the rest of the season. I think that the Dome day game will be a good one because Prin will be looking for some revenge.
Okay here's the schedule for this weekend! Who you picking?
Northwestern College vs. Principia College St. Paul, MN 12:00 PM
Trinity Bible College vs. Blackburn College Ellendale, ND 12:00 PM
Westminster College vs. Univ. of Minnesota-Morris Morris, MN 1:00 PM
Rockford College vs. Crown College St. Bonifacius, MN 1:00 PM
Maranatha Baptist vs. Martin Luther College New Ulm, MN 1:00 PM
The game to watch this week is Westy vs Morris. I would like to see how both of these schools are going to be since they lost most of there key players last year. Will Morris be able to move the ball without Donnay Green? Will Westy have the same passing attack without Val Leppert? A good match and test for both teams.
I have Northwestern crushing Principia on shear numbers alone.
Blackburn in a landslide over Trinity. Trinity's newest losing streak begins this weekend.
Rockford over Crown. This one could get ugly!
Martin Luther will squeak by MBBC with the final being 17-14. Go Lutherites!!
As for Westy and Morris, I have to go with my gut on this and say Westy but it will be a struggle for either offense to move the ball. Westy 14-7.
Small college guru, Don Hansen's Predictions... (www.donhansen.com) He's hit on 75% of his picks the past three years at D1-AA, D2, D3, and NAIA.
Northwestern 35, Principia 7
Trinity Bible 21, Blackburn 20
Westminster 28, Minnesota-Morris 14
Rockford 34, Crown 14
Marantha 21, Martin Luther 14
yeah so he's wrong 25% of the time. I can see two games where he is going to be mistaken. One is the Trinity game and the other is the Maranatha game. TBC football I saw the Prin and Trinity game and I can honestly say that it was a pathetic game. Not in the fact that the kids were not trying hard or enjoying the game but to call that game a Collegiate football game is a joke. I'm pretty sure there are teams in IL or ND that could beat both of the teams. Hell even if both teams joined together they will still lose. TBCfootball, enjoy last week because the sweet taste of victory is going to soon turn to the the sour taste of defeat. Go BEAVERS!!!!!!
If Trinity and Principia combined, they still would have less players than half the teams in the conference. If the schools combined, they'd still have the lowest enrollment with the conference. Let's not forget that these teams are forced with the task of doing more with less and if I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Blackburn this week. But that still doesn't mean that it's impossible for TBC to pull the game off. Trinity has a lot of talent this year, just an extreme lack of depth. They're starting 8 freshman on offense and 10 on defense...if they can retain all of those players and add another solid recruiting class, then Trinity will become more and more competitive over the next couple of years. They now have a solid coaching staff for the first time since Coach Godding left for SAGU, and that's where it all starts.
I'm sure you were embellishing for effect, but if you combined the enrollments of TBC and Principia they would be larger than Blackburn, larger than Crown, and the same size (within 10 students) of Maranatha Baptist and Westminster.
I stand corrected Pat. :)
I saw SAGU vs. SRSU. Coach Godding is doing a good job of building that program. A good test will be the SAGU-Huntingdon game later in the season.
SAGU is in a good position to grow. The southern DFW suburbs are going nicely and have the right demographic mix for SAGU. Those high schools play good football, too. For that matter, there is more talent in Texas that has not considered football than you can imagine. I detected some opprtunity to educate parents on the values of D3 football. SAGU is still giving "Athletic" Scholarships.
If Coach Gooding can string 2-3 solid classes of upperclassmen, then he can build a program. I was pleasantly suprised at the number of players that had turned out for football.
SAGU is an NAIA independent for football and a member of the Red River AC for other sports. For SAGU to join D3, they would need to add one men's and 3 women's sports which wouldnot be hard. If the NCAA increases the number of sports per enrollment, then SAGU would need to increase the commitment even more.
The school is adding another 300 beds for on campus enrollment. The school should be growing over the next 10 years. I wish it well.
Who cares about SAGU? This is the UMAC Page. Keep the discussion focused on the teams in the conference. And another thing about your precious SAGU, not a high quality program when you continue to throw the ball when its 49-13 at half-time. Run the ball and run out the clock. Quality coaching, Ralph, high quality
I'm sure SAGU thought that since it was gaining an average of FIFTEEN YARDS A CARRY on the ground, that it might have less success throwing the ball.
Not the point, PAT!!!!! HMMMMM, lets see keep the clock running or stop the clock with dropped balls and imcomplete passes. Pat, a little lesson for you when your beating the tar out of your opponent, hurry up and run the clock out!
Thanks, man, I am aware of how the clock is run out. Merely wanted to point out to the rest of the posters the whole story -- running out the clock was guaranteed to put them in the end zone in about six snaps.
Perhaps SAGU should have done what Northwestern and Principia did today. Less than nine minutes into the game the score was 34-0 in favor of Northwestern which led to a 60-0 halftime lead for the Eagles. The coaches discussed it at the half and they decided to go with a running clock for everything besides injuries and changing possesion. The second half went much faster and principia was able to move the ball a bit and gain confidence against our second and third teams while the game did not get bogged down like it was in the first half. Final Score 66-0.
Also around the UMAC, looks like Martin Luther is dominating Maranatha according to a 21-0 halftime score. It's looking like the UMAC will get some W's today!
AO, thanks for the update on the Northwestern Principia game. That makes sense.
I don't wish any ill will towards Principia, but I wanted to give props to Coach Godding, who is turning around the SAGU program, among his Upper Midwest friends. SAGU has had more than its share of 66-something defeats. It's nice to see someone turn around a program.
I will continue to watch the UMAC develop with favorable anticipation. Good luck in the new configurations that are occurring in your part of the country, e.g. the IBFC, the Lake Michigan-NIIC merger, etc.
It's kind of dead in here! I was surprised to see that UM Morris lost to Westy this last weekend. I looked at the stats and UM Morris had 0 yards rushing. Don't know what that stat indicates; either UM Morris can't run the ball and the O-Line is struggling or Westy's defense is just that good? I don't know but I'll be interesteed to see how Westy does this week.
Here are my predictions for this weekend:
Rockford in a record setting win
Northwestern by +40
Trinity BC NOTTT!!!!!
MLC by 21 pts
Blackburn squeeks by MBBC
Record-setting win? You're prediciting by 106 or more? :)
Rockford 82-12 Sets team offensive record 745 yards. The rockford coach was just planning to play and get through the steps. In the third quarter they were "praticing" a hurry-up offense for later this season. Principia had many guys playing both sides with only 23-24 players on the team. In the fourth quarter Rockford is still bringing in fresh players (freshmen and third string) and the Principia players were exhausted.
Well I was 4 for 5 this week with the biggest upset coming at Blackburn. Didn't think the Maranathanites had it in them. Also was surprised by the MLC vs Westy score. Thought MLC would put us some more points. I hear the Rockford game was ugly. I also hear that it could have been 106-0 but the starters didn't play the second half. The big game this week will be the Rockford vs Westy game. Whoever wins will win the South.
I started listening to the Rockford game in the 3rd quarter, it was 46-6 then. The radio station had switch to the badgers in the 4th when it went to 69-6. The starters praticed in the 3rd quarter for a little bit and to give the second string a break a little bit.
I am looking forward to this weekend's game. Trying to see if I can be at the Rockford, Westy game, it is homecoming weekend. 1st of three challenges for Rockford. 2nd Challenge Dome Day, Third Challenge Washington Univ. after Dome Day.
I would have to agree with you cwm1276. Rockford's first challenge will be this weekend. I am predicting a Regent win but I'm not sure if it will be tight or a blow out. I'm curious to which Westy team will show up. I also think the North has a big game with Northwestern and MLC. Still picking Northwestern but think it will be close.
I see on Rockford's website that they broadcast the games - this week's game against Westminster is on tape delay. Does anyone know what station carries this games and can it be listened to on the web? I'd like to listen to this week's game and can't get ahold of anyone at Rockford who knows. Thanks.
It appears they are broadcast on 1380 AM WTJK based out of Janesville, Wisconsin. They'll be broadcasting the Rockford vs. Westminster game after the Badgers/Hoosiers game, so around 3pm cst.
No mention of a web broadcast on the radio station's website, http://www.espn1380.com/
AO,
What are your thoughts on this weekends showdown between MLC and Northwestern?
Let me put it this way, unlike last week Martin Luther is going to have to score a whole lot more than 6 points to stay in the game. I feel like this Northwestern team is a bit better than in recent years past and with Homecoming this weekend for the Eagles, it might be a long day for the Knights.
Of course, I can't really get a good feel for how good Martin Luther is this year, so i'm basing this upon the 2004 Martin Luther team.
Northwestern 7
Martin Luther 6
7minutes left in the 1st half
Northwestern 28
Martin Luther 6
11:45 remaining in the fourth
Final Score Northwestern 35
Martin Luther 6
looks like a Northwestern vs. Westminster Dome Day matchup
anyone got a westminster-rockford score?
Westminster 14, Rockford 7, Defense was key. I listened to some of the first quarter and each team had at least 1 turnover. Looks like Westminster goes to the big game at the dome again, and Rockford plays runner-up.
Seems to be all south fans here how about UMM passing attack and the lack of offense martin luther is showing and is NWC really the favorite?
Northwestern in definitely the favorite in the North but that doesn't mean anything because look at what happened in the Westminster/Rockford game!
In the preseason polls, Westminister was picked to win the south, So I would not consider the Rockford game out of place with that, I wish the result could have been different.
Rockford has 2 more years of Umac Football, and They will win the south in at least one of them. They are starting to get stronger teams scheduled, no more Trinity Bible as a non-conference game. They are preparing for that new conference witch will be tougher than 3 true contests a year(Westminister,Dome Day, and Washington Univ.).
I agree Northwestern is the favorite in the North but I think UMM is the dark horse who is able and can win the north and possibly the UMAC. If UMM can beat MLC and NWC it will shape up to be an exciting Dome Day
At the half it's Northwestern 39 and Trinity Bible College 0
so far so good for the doubleheader attempt. Trinity is running the ball a lot, which I'm sure everyone appreciates to keep the clock running. Trinity is having some success running it, so why not?
Final Score from game 1 of the doubleheader
Northwestern 59
Trinity Bible 0
Rockford 49, Maranatha Baptist 18
Next week trinity in Rockford, Rockford's offense is getting beat up so I figure the score 70 to 6.
Good coverage by ESPN on its website of this past weekend's doubleheader:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2185866
Indeed. For some reason Northwestern's biggest fan doesn't feel like posting on the UMAC board, only the MIAC board, so that link has been discussed a bit over there already.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 10, 2005, 04:22:22 PM
Indeed. For some reason Northwestern's biggest fan doesn't feel like posting on the UMAC board, only the MIAC board, so that link has been discussed a bit over there already.
Yeah, I can understand him taking it elsewhere with this board hardly getting any feedback on it, but it's too bad he didn't post it here right away for any lurkers that would be interested in it. Good coverage in Around the Region today too.
Me, I've tried to stay away from the MIAC board...I spend enough time perusing the big scrolling boards in the South region...throw in the MIAC board and I think I'd have to cut my work hours back to part-time to keep up.
In this week's Sports Illustrated, Steve Rushin's column is about the Northwestern doubleheader. Northwestern fans should definitely enjoy it. Online it's only available to subscribers, but it'll be in the magazine this week.
Does anyone have any thoughts on DomeDay matchups in the UMAC? What are the probable match-ups and winners? I think Northwestern will beat Westminster in the championships game. I don't think Westminster can slow down Northwestern's O.
It's looking like this for Dome Day
8am the #3 seeds Maranatha and UM-Morris
11am #5 seeds Trinity and Principia
2pm #4 seeds Crown and Blackburn
5pm #2 seeds Rockford and Martin Luther
8pm #1 seeds Northwestern and Westminster
These appear to be pretty solid matchups that should produce some close games.
Anyone have Rockford/TBC or Crown/Martin Luther from today?
63-0 Rockford, beaten up Rockford switched out defensive freshmen for running backs.
see link
http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051015/SPORTS14/510150312/1001/SPORTS
The dome day is set for October 28th:
8am the #3 seeds Maranatha and UM-Morris
11am #5 seeds Trinity and Principia
2pm #4 seeds Crown and Blackburn
5pm #2 seeds Rockford and Martin Luther
8pm #1 seeds Northwestern and Westminster
Dome Day website is http://nwc.nwc.edu/index.php?id=2744
I would like to give a shoutout to our Trinity Bible College football team and let them know that the school and community has the utmost respect for them. The year started out looking bright, with 30 players and the most talented team and coaching staff that Trinity has fielded in a long, long time. Things went down hill a week after our boys defeated Principia, however.
Through several season ending injuries and many dismissals from the team, the lions are now suiting up 16 players. Of the 16, Trinity only has 5 original starters on offense and 4 original starters on defense. Almost every single player is going both ways and many are having to play out of position (including a 165 lb. d-back turned starting center) but our players and coaches are doing the best they can to represent the school in the best way possible.
The scoreboard will once again be in the opponent's (Martin Luther) favor this weekend, but I want our guys to know that we all respect your courage of going out and giving it your all every week. For the first time since Jesse Godding left for SAGU five years ago, TBC is actually recruiting football players. The coaching staff is hitting the recruiting trail hard and hopefully Trinity will be able to bring in the type of players that will get the program going in the right direction. The core of 20-25 guys that are still a part of the team is a good start. With only six guys that aren't freshmen, maybe some of these young guys will develop into solid college football players in the coming years.
Good luck to all UMAC teams this week. I hope everyone can have an injury-free week before Dome Day where everyone can bring their A-game next weekend!
Condolences to the Rose Family and all of those at UM-Morris who knew Rick Rose. Such exuberation does not usually exact such a toll. That is very sad!
What a tragedy at UM-Morris. My condolences.
Man, I hate such senseless tragedy. Why on Earth would goal posts be torn down between UMM and Crown? Just inexplainable.
Nonetheless, the world lost a fine student athlete. Thoughts and prayers with the Rose family.
OneArmedScot
They tore it down because it was the last game ever played at that field, probably would have tore it down had it been a blowout. But still, a completely avoidable accident. The entire Trinity campus weeps for Morris and will keep the young man, his family, and his team in our prayers.
I would like to add my thoughs and prayers for the whole UM-M community. There is really not much that I can add to the words already expressed in various places on the board about the senselessness of the incident.
Quote from: tbcfootball on October 20, 2005, 11:46:19 PM
Through several season ending injuries and many dismissals from the team, the lions are now suiting up 16 players. Of the 16, Trinity only has 5 original starters on offense and 4 original starters on defense. Almost every single player is going both ways and many are having to play out of position (including a 165 lb. d-back turned starting center) but our players and coaches are doing the best they can to represent the school in the best way possible.
I wish TBC well as they finish their season. Having guys play out of position like that can be dangerous. I hope the 16 guys playing all finish the season healthy and that TCB is able to improve their numbers for next year.
I am a Morris alumnus who also played football (93-98). I was at the game and witnessed the tragedy. I don't know how to describe it other than to say that it will haunt me for quite some time. However, my feelings are nothing compared to what Rick Rose's family and friends are going through.
First, I want to thank the Crown players and coaches for their prayers on the field. I'd also like to thank Johnnie, tbcfootball, scott, coekohawk, Ralph, and others for their prayers.
I want to address the report in some articles that it was a "rowdy" crowd. Some folks might have negative connotations with that description. These kids weren't drunk or out of control. I also don't think that reflects well on Rick's character.
Rick was hanging on the goalpost when the support snapped at the bottom. If it's any consolation, I believe he didn't suffer. I know a lot of people out there probably thought to themselves "what a stupid thing to be doing." However, I would've been doing the same thing, just like most other college-aged males.
I never met him, but I understand Rick was well-liked and a good student who hoped to attend medical school. He played on the basketball team and had battled cancer. This alone speaks to his character.
In other words, he was a lot like you and me and our friends in college. He was also a student at my alma mater, which attracts a certain kind of person. In that way, I feel like I knew him, and I mourn his death as a friend. I hope that doesn't sound overly dramatic, but I only say that here because the members of this board (I've been lurking for years) understand the tight-knit communities of small colleges, especially small college athletics.
Please keep up your prayers for Rick's family and the Morris community. Rick is missed by many.
Luke,
Thanks much for the post. Very thoughtful of you.
Prayers for Rick's parents and the rest of his family. I cannot
imagine the anguish.
Luke-- prayers to you and the entire UMM community, along with the Rose family. The shock of something so devasting occurring in such an innocent collegiate environment continues to be beyond me. It was so random as to happen in Morris, but it just as easily could have been Collegeville or even Minneapolis.
I couldn't even imagine being there and watching it happen first hand.
The Upper Midwest Conference football family was shocked and saddened to hear about the tragedy at Morris. Mr. Rose deomonstrated what small college sports and life are about - have fun playing collegiate athletics, but more importantly, earn a degree that will carry you through life.
There is no time to point fingers or blame, this could happen at any campus. If Division I schools with hundreds of security gaurds can't stop the goal posts from coming down, we certainly at the DIII are not prepared for this.
Our conference is not made up of superstars, a few exceptional athletes on each team each year, but it is made up of hard working students that, according to PLU's Frosty W., "make the big time where you are." What little I know about him, it sounds like Mr. Rose was an example of this philosophy.
We mourn for his family, friends, campus, and the concerned and supportive athletes at Crown, who also witnessed the tragedy and immediately went to prayer for the situation.
Life does not have a clock that we can look at, it can be here for 50 more years or gone today. We need to value life, value how we treat each other, and make a difference in this world.
God bless the community of Minnesota Morris and the family of Mr. Rose.
Dome Day:
UM - Morris 41
Maranatha 12
That's the only score I've heard.
We're posting scores on the Scoreboard. We have a Morris/Maranatha final (which is different than yours) and we have halftime of the second game.
For those of you who were at the game or heard from family and friends, D3football.com and Pictureprints.net have photos available for sale online right now!
The first three games are currently available and may be accessed through the D3football.com Schedule (http://www.d3football.com/schedule.php?week=9&year=2005) or by going to the UMAC Dome Day page on Pictureprints.net (http://www.pictureprints.net/umac).
Thank you for your support and attendance! Please pass the word on to anyone that was unable to attend these games that there are photos available online.
I will get the final two games posted as soon as I am able to tomorrow. Between our two photographers at the final two games I have over 3600 photos to edit!
Gotta put in a plug for sfury's book, Keeping the Faith. I won't post my review here, but here's
the link (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3977.0/). I started a thread on the general board. Finished it the other day and it's a solid bit of reporting and nicely written -- a fun read.
The timing was pretty cool -- I finished it on Dome Day.
Is Northwestern going to get another victory bowl bid this year? It would seem like they are more than deserving.
Yes, Northwestern is going to be playing at Olivet Nazarene in the Victory Bowl (http://nwc.nwc.edu/index.php?id=1294).
Should be another good game for the NCCAA National Title.
Any idea how the $$ work out for the NCCAA? Do the 2 teams have to foot the bill for the Victory bowl? Does the host team have to pay a bunch of money to host? Would they consider flying the visiting team in? It would be interesting to know how a small body of schools operates (other than the NAIA which we have learned is a financial mess).
The NCCAA does not fund the Victory Bowl beyond awards. The host school (which Northwestern declined to Olivet so they could travel to the college football hall of fame and Olivet traveled to Northwestern last year) picks up the game costs, a banquet, and all the basics that go with having a home game.
The game used to be held in Canton, at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, when Malone College would host. They decided to let the contract run out and now the top seeded NCCAA teams that do not advance to either the NAIA or NCAA playoffs get to participate.
It looks as though the SLIAC and UMAC conference football teams are going to form a new football alliance under the SLIAC name starting in 2008. By 2010 the league will have an AQ.
A meeting was held in St. Louis on Monday and the presidents and athletic directors from the UMAC and SLIAC colleges have tentatively agreed on a 10-team 2-divison league.
The league will add MacMurray, Greenville, and Eureka, and lose Rockford and Marantha to the Lake Michigan.
If Trinity makes the move to D3, will they be involved in the SLIAC?
Do you really think this conference is deserving of an AQ, even in 2008-2010?
"Deserving" is not one of the criteria. :)
The champion of the UMAC (Northwestern) was beating Lakeland in the fourth quarter at Lakeland this year. Lakeland was in the playoffs as a 7 seed this year. If teams like Lakeland and teams worse than Lakeland are in this playoff system obviously since a 7 seed is better than an 8, then there are perhaps a lot of "underserving" teams in the playoffs. Bottom line, you need to keep the automatic qualifiers to make playoffs exciting. Half of the excitement of the most popular playoff system in the world (March Madness) comes from the underdog who beats the big dog. Not from getting 6 schools from the power conferences into the postseason.
AO, where have you been lately?!?!?! I was hoping you could maybe hop over to the WIAC or MIAC board and let us know how much you think Linfield and Whitewater will win by this weekend. It's always been good luck--and you know the Johnnies are going to need luck if they are going to pull this one out!
By the way, is this the week that SJU loses its 3 conference games?
Quote from: AO on November 23, 2005, 08:17:39 PM
there are perhaps a lot of "underserving" teams in the playoffs.
That third word of yours isn't necessary.
Quote from: AO on November 23, 2005, 08:17:39 PM
Bottom line, you need to keep the automatic qualifiers to make playoffs exciting. Half of the excitement of the most popular playoff system in the world (March Madness) comes from the underdog who beats the big dog. Not from getting 6 schools from the power conferences into the postseason.
Yeah. This was a real exciting first week of playoffs, wasn't it? :)
I would figure you would know basketball is different than football. Maybe not...
You'd get your excitement if you had games at a neutral location. Hopefully, you would still be able to get some big crowds. I've actually been surprised that playoff crowds seem to be small compared to regular season crowds in football. I"m sure the weather plays a part, but it makes it rather anticlimactic to go to smaller crowds as you get to the playoffs.
Believe In Cinderella!
TC: After the last second pass up at concordia, my hopes for a johnnie fall were snatched away. Shortly after I predicted on the MIAC board that they would not lose until they got to Salem, if then.
It's typical. A lot of it is fall breaks and more of it is students accustomed to getting in free who don't want to pay the NCAA-mandated prices.
Happens in all D-III sports.
Neutral location? What's the point in getting that #1 seed then? And that means double the travel expenses for the NCAA. Not going to happen.
Duff, just need to get seeded like MU every year for home field. ::)
Happy New Year UMAC
I hear that Blackburn is without a coach right now, anybody else know anything?
Major problems here - Mathieson was forced to retire pretty much - they are interviewing people they got when they advertised for an "Assistant Head Coach" position back in December! Young guys or people without much experience. President does not want football and is biding her time to get rid of it - town is real small - not much unless you go to St. Louis which is an hour and a half away. Only limited success they had was in mid to late 90's. Since 1998 they are 10 - 60! Worst facilities in Division III - field is a cornfield - gym has MOVABLE bleachers and seats 300! Locker room is small and dirty!
Next coach will be their 6th in 17 years of football! Rumor is in a year or so say BYE BYE to football at Blackburn- too bad! With a better administration they could have some success, but it isn't going to happen!
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. I am aware of the Blackburn program having served as a student equipment manager for the Football team at Greenville from '97 to '00.
We have schedules posted for a handful of UMAC teams:
http://www.d3football.com/school_info.php?school=Blackburn
http://www.d3football.com/school_info.php?school=Martin%20Luther
http://www.d3football.com/school_info.php?school=Minnesota-Morris
http://www.d3football.com/school_info.php?school=Northwestern%20(Minn.)
Nice article about the new "savior" at Blackburn - guy lost his job because a bunch of players at Lewis & Clark in Oregon quit and the Prez cut the program in MID-SEASON (yes-MID SEASON) then told this so called "guru" to take a hike! Now he is going to be the guy to rebuild a "struggling" Blackburn program. Yeah right! The idiot president at what many around here call "Dumb-burn" and the "Bumblin'Beavers" hires this guy who thinks he is some kind of god in the coaching profession without checking up on him - check out the AD she hired too. What a mess! This is one of the top three worst programs in North America. Their wins recently? Trinity Bible and Principia! Skip Mathieson was a class guy and a good Illinois connected coach who did well in stints at Millikin in the 60's and 70's, did a great job at a very small Illinois high school which he took to the playoffs numerous times and WON, and this Madam President with the Junior High Gym AND PLAYING FIELD (who has been investigated for questionable use of funds which were donated to this college)runs SKip out and hires a guy who LOSES HIS WHOLE PROGRAM IN TWO SHORT YEARS! And don't give us the excuse that Lewis & Clark is an "academic" school that can't get football players admitted (tell me what other schools in D3 are located in Oregon besides Linfield and maybe one or two others). Nice try - Blackburn -put that 2 & 7 up on the board right now (dial a score vs. Principia and Trinity Bible if you play them - 1-8 if you don't). Oh yes and Coach V you self annointed guru you, KEEP YOUR PLAYERS out of the fights and police blotters they have frequented recently (Madam Prez covered this up for him, baseball team got in real trouble too). Bye bye Dumb-burn!
I don't believe "a bunch of players at Lewis & Clark in Oregon quit" -- I don't think they ever had a bunch of players to begin with, even before he got there. The team he inherited only had 40 players and it only takes a few players getting hurt from there to get to the point L&C was at last fall.
VanDeZande is Illinois-connected as well. No, he's not downstate-Illinois connected but North Central is still in Illinois.
Blackburn has some big question marks from last year to deal with as well -- bragging about its 85-man roster that began the season, then ended with 61.
Quote from: illinihscoach05 on May 13, 2006, 01:45:29 PM
What a mess! This is one of the top three worst programs in North America. Their wins recently? Trinity Bible and Principia!
Quote from: illinihscoach05 on May 13, 2006, 01:45:29 PM
Skip Mathieson was a class guy and a good Illinois connected coach who did well in stints at Millikin in the 60's and 70's, did a great job at a very small Illinois high school which he took to the playoffs numerous times and WON, and this Madam President with the Junior High Gym AND PLAYING FIELD ... runs SKip out ...
If the only teams he beat were Trinity Bible and Prin, exactly what kind of a job was Mathieson doing? Even the credit for the large recruiting class went to Dom Passolano.
I'm not saying VanDeZande is great and I'm not saying Mathieson deserved to be let go, but you're not connecting the dots very well.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 13, 2006, 04:05:46 PM
I don't believe "a bunch of players at Lewis & Clark in Oregon quit" -- I don't think they ever had a bunch of players to begin with, even before he got there. The team he inherited only had 40 players and it only takes a few players getting hurt from there to get to the point L&C was at last fall.
VanDeZande is Illinois-connected as well. No, he's not downstate-Illinois connected but North Central is still in Illinois.
Blackburn has some big question marks from last year to deal with as well -- bragging about its 85-man roster that began the season, then ended with 61.
Quote from: illinihscoach05 on May 13, 2006, 01:45:29 PM
What a mess! This is one of the top three worst programs in North America. Their wins recently? Trinity Bible and Principia!
Quote from: illinihscoach05 on May 13, 2006, 01:45:29 PM
Skip Mathieson was a class guy and a good Illinois connected coach who did well in stints at Millikin in the 60's and 70's, did a great job at a very small Illinois high school which he took to the playoffs numerous times and WON, and this Madam President with the Junior High Gym AND PLAYING FIELD ... runs SKip out ...
If the only teams he beat were Trinity Bible and Prin, exactly what kind of a job was Mathieson doing? Even the credit for the large recruiting class went to Dom Passolano.
I'm not saying VanDeZande is great and I'm not saying Mathieson deserved to be let go, but you're not connecting the dots very well.
Pat is correct on this one. I believe the pios started with 39 players and by the time the last three games rolled around they were closer to 30. It was the President and the board that decided to forego the remainder of the season as not to risk any more injuries and not the players quiting.
When does the UMAC go legit? ::)
Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on June 18, 2006, 11:52:46 PM
When does the UMAC go legit? ::)
Today! For those of you who have not read the front page (http://www.d3football.com/)! ;)
I am so happy for the student-athletes in the UMAC/SLIAC. This will guarantee a bid for the winner, altho' it might mean a first round trip to Mount Union or St John's. :-\
Nevertheless, this will build all of the programs involved. :)
Congrats to the UMAC group on the upcoming autobid! This will have playoff implications for sure, particularly on the placement of WIAC/MWC teams, as they could be shifted to the North region, or the SLIAC winner to the south region.
Nevertheless, in 2008, welcome to the big show!
Will it be called the SLIAC?
Yes. We ran a story on the front page last month. You can find it in Notables, June 20.
So, is this board relevent anymore?
Is there a UMAC this year?
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 19, 2006, 01:49:26 PM
Yes. We ran a story on the front page last month. You can find it in Notables, June 20.
I did read the article Pat. You must think I have a comprehension problem. I was posing the question to any possible UMAC'rs and whether there will be any more chatter on this, soon to be extinct, board. :P
I don't see why this board would become extinct when games start being played under the SLIAC name. Not there's anything really worth saving on this board, but 7 of the teams in the upcoming SLIAC currently play in the UMAC.
Is this going to be a conference with teams from the south, north and west regions? Anyone know if this affects the importance of the north division SLIAC teams' clashes with the MIAC?
AO, Pat will probably just change the name of the board. That is how he handled the Lake Michigan/NIIC to Northern Athletics Conference move.
There are several dynamics in place with the UMAC/SLIAC. The Football Championships Committee will determine into which region each school must be assigned. SCAC member DePauw is in the South Region, so we might have all of the SLAIC members assigned to one region, either the North or the West probably.
For the sake of the Championship and the In-Region Record, all conference games will be "in-region" anyway, as in the AMCC in basketball, where some members are assigned to the Great Lakes, others to the Mid-Atlantic.
AO- any word on how the scrimmage between NW and Hamline went Thursday?
I have been following Blackburn football for a few years, and Division III football for a lot more. Last year Blackburn did bring in 80 plus players at the beginning of camp, but by the start of the season this number had dwindled to approximately 60 players. The problem was not necessarily due to injuries but for other reasons. The major problem that I see with Blackburn is retention of players. Of the 55 players who were underclassmen on last year's roster, only 26 are on this year's roster. With constant turnover, there is no way a program can be built into a respectable program. If I were a new coach coming in, the reason for attrition would be the first thing I would look into.
Some would say the reason for the low return of last year's players was due to change of coaches, but go back to previous years and the same observation could be made. Players were leaving because they were disinchanted with the program. Seemed like last year Blackburn tried to take a page out of the CCIW conference and load up the roster with numbers. Sorry, but when a team has 100 plus players there is no way everyone is going to get a chance to play at one time or another. But do the math, and the tuition money/fees that these extra players bring in, this begins to cover some of the cost of the program. There is no intent to play the extras, so the extras finally get frustrated and quit. Unlike Division I, these players do not receive athletic scholarships regardless if they play or not. In my college days at a major university, there were players on scholarship that never set foot in an actual game, but they received their college education paid in full. Did they want to play, yes. But in the end they still had something to show for after putting in the practice time and off season conditioning. At Division III the players are out for the team because they want a chance to compete on the field. This was not happening at Blackburn, and it is the case at most Division III schools.
It will be interesting to see how the future plays out with a new coach, but the attrition rate needs to be addressed. However, the attrition rate at Blackburn not only pertains to the football program. The student population in general is hit with this dilemna. The Blackburn administration needs to resolve this problem. Finally, the administration needs to provide the financial and morale support to the football program. There is no doubt the facilities are terrible. Looking around at other D III schools facilities are being upgraded if not already upgraded. These facilities attract not only athletes, but also students.
Chief, at 80-100 players, you have enough interest to start a JV. The JV action keeps kids around a little longer, maybe long enough to decide they want a Blackburn education.
Are there JV scheduling opportunites in the neighborhood?
Quote from: The Chief on August 27, 2006, 09:49:16 PM
I have been following Blackburn football for a few years, and Division III football for a lot more. Last year Blackburn did bring in 80 plus players at the beginning of camp, but by the start of the season this number had dwindled to approximately 60 players. The problem was not necessarily due to injuries but for other reasons. The major problem that I see with Blackburn is retention of players. Of the 55 players who were underclassmen on last year's roster, only 26 are on this year's roster. With constant turnover, there is no way a program can be built into a respectable program. If I were a new coach coming in, the reason for attrition would be the first thing I would look into.
Some would say the reason for the low return of last year's players was due to change of coaches, but go back to previous years and the same observation could be made. Players were leaving because they were disinchanted with the program. Seemed like last year Blackburn tried to take a page out of the CCIW conference and load up the roster with numbers. Sorry, but when a team has 100 plus players there is no way everyone is going to get a chance to play at one time or another. But do the math, and the tuition money/fees that these extra players bring in, this begins to cover some of the cost of the program. There is no intent to play the extras, so the extras finally get frustrated and quit.
I would say a couple of things here:
1) Every program has a certain amount of attrition from year to year.
2) Losing 29 of 55 potential returning kids is a problem, nonetheless. How many of the kids are in school this year?
Perhaps the new coach will help. The credibility of the program has to be at issue right now with all the losing in recent years, and that can't help player retention.
As a public service I would like to ask some UMAC readers to start posting so AO doesn't feel the need to bring his idiocy to the MIAC board and you can discuss how many NCCCCCCCCCPTFA all americans and championships NWC has had the past 4 years.
Hey, if it brings more fans to the site, I'm all for it.
Sounds like NWC did pretty well. The Thomforde kid was able to do what he wanted.
AO -- your team is going to have to compete with the preseason last-place pick in the IIAC before it can compete with those in the middle of the pack in the MIAC.
easy Pat, you don't need to post the same thing on multiple boards in order to get a point across.
Any word from the cougar fans on how the new stadium looks?
Just the ones you post about this subject all the time on.
AO what is your take on the Augsburg game this week I have augie by 18.
Judging by the cornell game, it might be logical to make a ridiculous pick like, Augsburg by 18 over Northwestern, but according to the experts over at the pick
'em page Northwestern is the favorite by 2.5. I'm not really sure which Northwestern team is going to show up on Saturday, but if they play up to their ability, I wouldn't be suprised to see a double digit victory for Northwestern.
Kickoff ranking: Northwestern 153, Augsburg 156. Should be a good matchup.
Blackburn had some success in the mid 90's until 1999 when they decided to hire a coach who had NEVER played the game in his life and he turned the program built by the previous coach (85-100 players every year-complete JV schedule) into the biggest joke in college football (3-37 in four seasons). That coach ran around with girls on campus and got away with it because the president had to cover her butt for getting rid of the previous coach when he was backstabbed by the other guy. Blackburn needs to either support football or drop it - their president is a complete FOOL who the students do not like and their facilities are WORSE than a Jr. High School. Decrepit is the word that comes to mind. High school coaches in our area will not send their good players there. Also the school has to rely on its work college rep to get by-face it students do not want to clean toilets at 6:00 AM or mow grass at 3:45 and then play sports AND go to classes. It is not a school with a good academic rep and has a very poor overall academic ranking. Sorry Blackburn - I wish your new coach the best of luck because he WILL NEED IT! Watch your back with Mim the Prim Pride. She is a tool! She needs to get sent down the frigggin' road!
AO, your squad pulled it out Saturday. They did look better than I expected. That being said, I would like to see the game played around midseason. Auggie had lots of "first game" type of mistakes. The officiating was pretty bad (on both sides) those guys need to get a clue. It took them 23 seconds to get the play clock started between 3rd and 4th down at the end.
I think both teams definitely showed that september inexperience. We had some freshmen defensive backs make a few mistakes in the last minute of the first half alongside a fumbled kickoff return, or else Augsburg might not have put one in the endzone Saturday. Hopefully Auggie can make some adjustments and pull a win a couple games they're not supposed to.
Not only the officiating, but the chain gang was struggling on Saturday. There were at least 3 or 4 times where because the down marker was off by a couple yards, the offense would get backed up on numerous series making it 4th and 2 rather than 4th and 1 and 2nd and 12 rather than 2nd and 10. Fun game to watch though, eh? Had a pretty good crowd. The pep band which hasn't existed for the last 20 years made a reappearance as well.
I thought NWC won the physical battle, they pounded Augsburg on Saturday. If the throwback is caught on the KO Return NWC wins by three scores.
Congrates to Rockford for their win over Westminster. Would be nice to meet Northwestern for a rematch in the UMAC championship game.
Jon Butler if you are out there, we have the Saints Bowl coming up this weekend with the NWC vs Crown game.
Even though Blackburn College Football has taken its fair share of hits in the last couple years, Blackburn can still pride themselves over recent victories in Men's Basketball and Baseball. Being a student on campus, I feel the work program offers valuable hands on experience for use as a stepping-stone into the real-world workforce. Food Services and Janitors are not the only jobs offered here at Blackburn (I for example work in the Sports information Dept). I will agree that our facilities are highly lacking, there have been recent renovations done to the football field and Home men's locker room, but of course visiting teams do not see the locker room, when has any school decided that their opponents needed somewhere nice to get dressed? As for the student body, Blackburn prides itself at offering a low cost education, while that doesn't constitute the overall pick of the litter students it does offer a higher education for the less fortunate. Also, Blackburn is renowned for their Science departments, obviously not their athletics. With a new $5 million dollar Laboratory Building in the process of being completed Blackburn has obviously allocated a mass quantity of funds, for a college of only 600 students, to improve educational facilities first before pursuing athletic enhancements.
As for student athletes engaging in unlawful activity, I as a student have never personally heard of such an event taking place at Blackburn.
Congratulations to St. Scholastica on your new football program. I look forward to seeign it down the road.
Quote from: Just Bill on October 31, 2006, 01:49:55 PM
Congratulations to St. Scholastica on your new football program. I look forward to seeign it down the road.
Congratulations to St Scholastica!
I assume that this will permit Principia to return to the South Division in 2008, and give a divisional line-up such as this.
North -- Crown, Martin Luther, Minn-Morris, Northwestern MN and St Scholastica
South -- Blackburn, Eureka, Greenville, MacMurray, Prinicipia, Westminster MO.
That would provide a more logical alignment, definitely.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2006, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on October 31, 2006, 01:49:55 PM
Congratulations to St. Scholastica on your new football program. I look forward to seeign it down the road.
Congratulations to St Scholastica!
I assume that this will permit Principia to return to the South Division in 2008, and give a divisional line-up such as this.
North -- Crown, Martin Luther, Minn-Morris, Northwestern MN and St Scholastica
South -- Blackburn, Eureka, Greenville, MacMurray, Prinicipia, Westminster MO.
I would agree that these teams will be how things are split up. How long do you think it will take Scholastica to become competitive.
Depends on the definition of competitive. The league isn't very competitive overall so they could be competing with Northwestern, Morris, Rockford and perhaps Greenville for the title as soon as their third year if the right coaching staff is hired and the rest of the league doesn't improve.
Merry Christmas to everyone on the UMAC board
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2006, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on October 31, 2006, 01:49:55 PM
Congratulations to St. Scholastica on your new football program. I look forward to seeign it down the road.
Congratulations to St Scholastica!
I assume that this will permit Principia to return to the South Division in 2008, and give a divisional line-up such as this.
North -- Crown, Martin Luther, Minn-Morris, Northwestern MN and St Scholastica
South -- Blackburn, Eureka, Greenville, MacMurray, Prinicipia, Westminster MO.
Okay, where are we now with the UMAC?
You are 2 teams short of a Pool A bid, and Trinity Bible doesn't count.
Your independents include Finlandia MI (non-football) and Macalester.
Is Bethany Lutheran adding football? I cannot find the Presentation web site by either google or aol search engines.
We have a link from our Presentation schedule/results page -- it's presentation.edu.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2007, 04:22:43 PM
We have a link from our Presentation schedule/results page -- it's presentation.edu.
Tells you how bad my search engines were working that day! :-\
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2006, 12:29:39 PM
Depends on the definition of competitive. The league isn't very competitive overall so they could be competing with Northwestern, Morris, Rockford and perhaps Greenville for the title as soon as their third year if the right coaching staff is hired and the rest of the league doesn't improve.
They are off to a good start with a good coach. Whittier may have not have won many games, but they played at 100% for sixty minutes. This will be a great opportunity for players.
Can someone tell me about Trinity Bible? Are they provisional NCAA III or are they only affiliated with the NCCAA?
Any information would be greatly appreciated!
Trinity Bible has no affiliation with the NCAA whatsoever, regardless of division.
Last I checked they were about seven sports short of the minimum required to be in Division III.
Thank you, Sir. I appreciate your response.
Congrats to Crown College, They beat Mn Morris at Morris 44 to 28 they are 5 n 2 now with crown having their first winning season ever! Things are changing at Crown! ;D
This one's for all the Maranatha and Rockford football fans:
2008 Northern Athletics Conference Football Schedules are now up:
the link is: http://northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2007_10/20071017a.html
Don't know how soon Pat will set up a separate NAthCon football board--given the long off-season.
We'll convert the IBFC board into the NAthCon board after the IBFC's playoff entrant is eliminated.
I have a question about scheduling. I was just reading Eureka's program and it states that they will play a 9 game season last year. I know it is a VERY long shot, but don'ty ou have to play a minimum of 10 games to qualify for the playoffs.? Their schedule is like this for 2 years. As far as I know the Red Devils have always played 10 games. Please only respond if you are going to be serious. I kow Eureka has been struggling and we don't need anohter discussion on that.
Thanks!
I am guessing that the 9 game season is a simple misprint or something....I know eureka is still playing CUC next year. Is that posted on the schedule?
Mr. Coleman-- I know that a whole O-line is picked for team of the week...when I put it all in caps with the question marks it was in regards to the CUW d-line and telling them they better bring their "A" game because Bethel has such a great O-line. Sorry for the misinterpretation.
Quote from: lineman79 on November 19, 2007, 02:14:34 PM
No misprint. The Red Devils open with Knox, play CUC the second game, have a bye week and then open SLIAC play which for football has seven other teams. I thought that there was a minimum nuber of games you had to play to qualify for the playoffs. I could be wrong though.
Scheduling aside, when Eureka and others start play next season in the SLIAC, they won`t be eligible for the play-offs till 2010.
On scheduling, maybe they just haven`t filled it out yet. :)
Min. Games - you need 9 games to qualify for the NCAA DIII play-offs. My guess is that Eureka is moving to 9 games due to squad size and travel. Plus, I think their HC was at U of Chicago last, they played 9 games there too with a squad size of 50-60. Make sense to have 2 bye if you are playing with a small squad.
Gomer-
Actually, teams moving to new conferences would still be eligible for the playoffs, but not through an automatic conference bid.
They would have to go undefeated probably and hope for an at large in 2009.
Quote from: baseman201 on November 19, 2007, 11:16:23 PM
Gomer-
Actually, teams moving to new conferences would still be eligible for the playoffs, but not through an automatic conference bid.
They would have to go undefeated probably and hope for an at large in 2009.
baseman201: Check out the SLIAC site: SLIAC news, March 13th, 2007.
Subject was .....Eureka. But applies to others as well.
Nobody in the "new" conference (SLIAC ) will be playing in the Play-offs
till 2010. :)
Enjoy your Thanksgiving.
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 20, 2007, 06:46:00 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 19, 2007, 11:16:23 PM
Gomer-
Actually, teams moving to new conferences would still be eligible for the playoffs, but not through an automatic conference bid.
They would have to go undefeated probably and hope for an at large in 2009.
baseman201: Check out the SLIAC site: SLIAC news, March 13th, 2007.
Subject was .....Eureka. But applies to others as well.
Nobody in the "new" conference (SLIAC ) will be playing in the Play-offs
till 2010. :)
Enjoy your Thanksgiving.
It doesn't say that at all, Gomer. Read it again:
http://www.sliac.org/headlines/football_07.htm
As you can see, baseman201 is correct. SLIAC teams that are members in good standing of NCAA D3 can qualify for the football playoffs as a part of Pool B (independents and teams from non-qualifying conferences) and Pool C (all at-large teams) until the SLIAC becomes a qualifying conference in 2010. At that point, SLIAC teams will be able to compete for playoff berths as a part of Pool A (the SLIAC's automatic berth) and Pool C.
So then the automatic bids for both the NAC and SLIAC aren't until 2010?
I thought it was 2009???
Or is it just the SLIAC thats 2010?
If someone could clarify that would be WONDERFUL!!!
Gomer-
Score one for Baseman.... ;D
enjoy your Thanksgiving
Thanks for the info gentlemen. I can see EC going to a 9 game schedule also. Both years they have scheduled 5 home games and 4 road games. They might have done this to save on travel costs since they be going to Alabama and Georgia with LaGrange and Hunnington joining the SLIAC for football.
Thanks again for help me out! HAPPY TURKEY DAY!
Both leagues would be eligible for an automatic bid the same year, 2010.
Quote from: lineman79 on November 20, 2007, 12:34:51 PM
Thanks for the info gentlemen. I can see EC going to a 9 game schedule also. Both years they have scheduled 5 home games and 4 road games. They might have done this to save on travel costs since they be going to Alabama and Georgia with LaGrange and Hunnington joining the SLIAC for football.
That's a plausible theory, lineman. Those trips to Alabama and Georgia might be costly enough to force SLIAC teams to reduce the schedule by a game, although I doubt that the SLIAC would force teams to make both those trips in the same year. My guess is that the teams in the league's Illinois/Missouri base would alternate trips to Huntington and LaGrange on an every-other-year basis, so that they each would only have to make the trip to Dixie once every autumn.
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
Eureka travels to La Grange in '08 and Hunington in '09. Knowing Eureka and their financial situation I have a good feeling this is why they went to a nine game season. Those are some long trips for EC. The longest trip since I can remember for the Red Devils was McKensie, TN when we played NAIA Bethel in '98.
Today let us remember our Soldiers and Sailors who lost their lives at Pearl Harbor and those who survived the attack in our prayers and thoughts.
MacMurray has it`s 2008 Football schedule up on their web site.
Does anyone know when the 2008 UMAC football schedule will be release. Plus do people think CSS will be competitive their first season.
I split some posts out into a new SLIAC football message board. Welcome!
Pat Coleman
u r the ramma jamma yella hammma...thanks
Hello any and everyone from the new sliac...
Hawks 88 and i r from Huntingdon
good to meet yall, and Lord willing we will see yall next fall
keep the faith
AF4,
How you been? Hope all is well with you. Any word from the boy on recruiting?
Pat,
Any ideas yet on whether all the conference games will count as in region the two years before the AQ kicks in? Would they move HC and LC to the north or everyone else to the south? Or will we stuck with only 3 or 4 region games for those two years?
All you other SLIACers, looking forward to chatting and maybe meeting this fall for some tailgating!!
Go Hawks!!!
Hawks 88...Brother
i hope yall had a wonderful Christmas, New Years
no word on recruiting.... but .. i thank they r excited to finally get in a league
Turk is an outstanding coach... a real motivator... he continues to impress me.... the boy would run through a wall for him and Coach Williams (D-Line)
nice to have a posting home... ;)
have u seen the new gym... wow...real nice
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Quote from: Hawks88 on January 17, 2008, 10:49:38 PM
AF4,
How you been? Hope all is well with you. Any word from the boy on recruiting?
Pat,
Any ideas yet on whether all the conference games will count as in region the two years before the AQ kicks in? Would they move HC and LC to the north or everyone else to the south? Or will we stuck with only 3 or 4 region games for those two years?
All you other SLIACers, looking forward to chatting and maybe meeting this fall for some tailgating!!
Go Hawks!!!
They probably won't count as in-region but who knows?
They may not move the teams at all. It would be like the UAA in basketball.
Please remember that a conference game is considered an "in-region" game.
I think that HC and LaGrange will be okay if the Competition Committee acknowledges the conference membership towards "in-region".
As I look at the definition of in-region, then HC and LaGrange probably get the largest range of opponents if they are considered in the SLIAC, in the South Evaluation Region, and in the 3rd Administrative Region. :)
Yet there's no guarantee they will give SLIAC football that setup while in Pool B, Ralph. That's why I said that.
Quote from: AF4 on January 17, 2008, 11:21:01 PM
nice to have a posting home... ;)
have u seen the new gym... wow...real nice
Haven't seen the finished product yet but I did sneak in and take a peek back in the fall while they were still working on it and could tell it was going to be pretty sweet!
Got plenty of bread and milk for the big snow storm tomorrow? ::)
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 18, 2008, 02:07:15 AM
Yet there's no guarantee they will give SLIAC football that setup while in Pool B, Ralph. That's why I said that.
Yeah, I am afraid of that! :(
Thanks for the esteemed opinion. :)
I have been waiting for this. Hopefully we can have some good football conversations instead of the immature "my dad can beat up your dad" stuff that goes on at other boards.
GO RED DEVILS!!!!
Quote from: Hawks88 on January 18, 2008, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: AF4 on January 17, 2008, 11:21:01 PM
nice to have a posting home... ;)
have u seen the new gym... wow...real nice
Haven't seen the finished product yet but I did sneak in and take a peek back in the fall while they were still working on it and could tell it was going to be pretty sweet!
Got plenty of bread and milk for the big snow storm tomorrow? ::)
Gym looks nice!
"I have been waiting for this. Hopefully we can have some good football conversations instead of the immature "my dad can beat up your dad" stuff that goes on at other boards"
i love that
we r so proud to b in a conference with yall
Pat & Hawks 88.... the new basketball arena is awesome
yall b good
keep the faith
Quote from: smith03 on January 12, 2008, 12:30:09 PM
Does anyone know when the 2008 UMAC football schedule will be release. Plus do people think CSS will be competitive their first season.
Respectfully, in this conference, I think that a competent program with a good coaching staff, strong support from the CSS administration and community and a few talented transfers can make a big impression very early.
The biggest factor for this conference is getting the AQ, either from aligning with other teams/conferences, or adding affiliate members or getting current members to add football.
Does AQ mean automatic qualifer for the d3 playoffs?
How many football playing schools are need to get an AQ?
You'll need seven. And Trinity Bible can't be one of them -- they have to be full Division III member schools.
thanks
Trinity will NOT be back in the UMAC 08 anyway just the 5 conference schools. Crown, Martin Luther, Minn Morris, Northwestern and St. Scholastica
The Mac schedule is up and this is what ity should look like for next year.....
9/6/2007
1:00
Beloit College
Beliot College
9/13/2007
1:00 PM
Aurora University
Home
9/20/2007
1:00 PM
Haskell University
Lawrence, KS
9/27/2007
1:00PM
Lagrange College
Home
10/4/2007
1:00 PM
Huntingdon College
Montgomery, AL
10/11/2007
1:00 PM
Westminster College
Home
10/18/2007
1:00 PM
Greenville College
Home
10/25/2007
1:00 PM
Eureka College
Eureka, IL
11/1/2007
1:00 PM
Blackburn College
Home
11/8/2007
1:00 PM
Principia College
Elsah, IL
Does anyone know anything about Haskell U. And just by looking at the schedule, is there even a preseason favorite out all these teams. Not too familier with any of them except for a couple for the old IBFC conference.
try to come down a day early (10-3-08) and see some of the sites around montgomery...lots of war between the states, civil rights, and other history
looking forward to yalls visit
keep the faith
nothing is for sure till they show up... but..
from out local area the Opelika-Auburn news reported that 4 local kids signed/promised they were going to Huntingdon (2 CB's, 1 WR, and an OL)
a total of 21 kids signed from our semi rural county with 10 highschools- 5 kids D-1 (2 sec, 2 confUSA, 1 sunbelt) 11 D-1FCS (3 ovc, 3 so con, 4 swac, 1 meac) 1 D-2 (miaa) and (drum roll)... 4 D-3 (SLIAC...all Huntingdon)
All were either all-state or honorable mention, the Ol (6'3" 260) and 2 of the DB's
the WR was one of the leading returners-wideouts in the state- allstar...all everything.... but small 5'8"-5'9", 150-170
i do not no any more than what the paper said...
need some OL's as we graduated 4 of the 5 starters
keep th faith
Huntingons football schedule is out
Here it is....
September 6th Maryville College (TN)
Samford Stadium
1:00 p.m. CDT - - - - -
September 13th Faulkner University, (AL) Capital City Showdown II
Cramton Bowl
7:00 p.m. CDT - - - - -
September 20th - - - - - - - - - - - - - O P E N- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
September 27th Greenville College, (IL)
Greenville, IL 1:00 p.m. CDT
September 29th MacMurray College, (IL)
Sanford Samford 1:00 p.m. CDT
October 11th Eureka College, (IL)
Eureka, IL 1:00 p.m. CDT
October 18th Blackburn College, (IL)
Samford Stadium 1:00 p.m. CDT
October 25th Westminster College, (MO)
Fulton, MO 1:00 p.m. CDT
November 1st Principia College, (IL)
Samford Stadium 1:00 pm.. CDT
November 8th Hampden-Sydney College (VA) SR Day
Samford Stadium 1:00 p.m. CST - - - - -
November 15th LaGrange College, (GA)
LaGrange, GA 1:00 p.m. EST
looks good... great conference.... we graduated a bunch... so hope we can compete
keep the and Go Hawks
Excellent. I think we will do well with this schedule, AF4. I'm a little disappointed that we're not making the Wisconsin trip week 2 as the wife has relatives there and was going to be a good chance to visit, but the Showdown, at night, at Cramton Bowl should be a blast. Can't wait for September.
Go Hawks!!
September 13th vs Faulkner at Cramton Bowl should be fun. I liked that field a lot when we played there in highscool. Also gonna be under the lights so thats always a plus. Should do pretty good this year with that schedule though.
Hawks88 great to hear from u bro
we have a third... it appears in shane
it looks like a good schedule... hopefully we can replace that good oline from last yr.. ( i thank 4 of the starters graduated). those 2 dominant d line men (rip and cagle)..and asundry other folks (like the qb... who i read is playing b ball)
i hope they hit the wts hard and r ready
keep the faith ...and GO HAWKS
I am really looking forward to the debut of Huntingdon and LaGrange in the SLIAC.
I think that should be good for both.
Let me throw in a pitch for the trip to Montgomery.
McMurry went to Huntingdon, and the highlight of the trip was the Civil Rights Museum. Those of us who grew up in the 1960's remember it, but today's kids have no concept of that time in American life.
Since the school is taking a new group of kids to Montgomery every other year, I strongly encourage your AD's and head coaches to include enough time to visit the memorial. The team became a team thru the experience. McMurry trip to Civil Rights Museum -- slide show (http://www.mcm.edu/athletics/galleries/083107fb/Site/McMurry_University_Athletics.html)
For the LaGrange trip, I encourage you to go over the FDR's home at Warm Springs, GA. That is living history!
OBI WAN... great pictures
i am unsure which ones i like the best... the team in front of Dexter Ave Baptist Church (can u imagine Dr King in there with all that was going on out side)...or the team in front of the Southern Poverty Law Center
or the one with the hand pointing at Thugood Marshalls name, or... or
great pictures thanks for sharing them
we r s proud to b in the SLIAC
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Hello all-
I'm looking forward to following this new football conference next fall. It looks like there should be some good, competitive games.
All the schools are around 1000 students or less, so does that make this the smallest conference in the nation? Just curious.
Quote from: Andras Bacia on February 29, 2008, 09:21:38 AM
Hello all-
I'm looking forward to following this new football conference next fall. It looks like there should be some good, competitive games.
All the schools are around 1000 students or less, so does that make this the smallest conference in the nation? Just curious.
The SLIAC should be a competitive conference for its members.
Welcome to the message boards.
Let me put in a plug for the online pre-season mag, Kickoff that comes out around Aug 20th or so. It is less than $10, and really helps you understand D3.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Andras Bacia on February 29, 2008, 09:21:38 AM
Hello all-
I'm looking forward to following this new football conference next fall. It looks like there should be some good, competitive games.
All the schools are around 1000 students or less, so does that make this the smallest conference in the nation? Just curious.
The SLIAC should be a competitive conference for its members.
Welcome to the message boards.
Let me put in a plug for the online pre-season mag, Kickoff that comes out around Aug 20th or so. It is less than $10, and really helps you understand D3.
Thanks. I'll watch for Kickoff to come out in August.
whats the 411 on these guys?
Haven't been very good for a while; tough maintaining roster numbers; athletic department in a lot of flux the past 18 months.
which guys did u mean
Huntingdon's program is pretty stable, good support, Coach Turk is in his 5th yr...and has built a competitive program.... just hoping it can move from a good to better program
we (they) were 5-5 last yr...with 2 games lost in overtime, also lost to play-off teams Hampden-Sydney, Wesley...and was simply blown out by UW-Oshkosh
have to re-tool the OL...and 2 key DL's, a new QB....and a few other stuff
keep the faith
I assumed he meant MacMurray, since that was his subject line. :)
i am slower than u... i thought he was from macmurray...and was asking about all the teams in the sliac....per the post prior to his
but ..i'll bet u r right.... remember..i am from lower alabama...and a little slow
thanks and keep the faith
LOL -- just need more caffeine. Early morning.
Huntingdon has posted an updated schedule. The Greenville & MacMurray games have been swapped from the original one that was posted. It also looks like all conference games are to start at Noon local time. While I dislike the one hour less for tailgating, I understand that it is probably done to get the visiting teams on the road home a little earlier. Man, is September ever going to get here?
Go Hawks!!
- - - -
September 6th Maryville College (TN) Samford Stadium 1:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
September 13th Faulkner University, (AL) Montgomery, AL Cramton Bowl 7:00 p.m. CDT
Capital City Showdown II
- - - -
September 20th - - - - - - - - - - - - - O P E N- - - - - - - - -
- - - -
September 27th MacMurray College, (IL) Samford Stadium 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
October 4th Greenville College, (IL) Greenville, IL 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
October 11th Eureka College, (IL) Eureka, IL 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
October 18th Blackburn College, (IL) Samford Stadium 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
October 25th Westminster College, (MO) Fulton, MO 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
November 1st Principia College, (IL) Samford Stadium 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
November 8th Hampden-Sydney College (VA) Samford Stadium 1:00 p.m. CST
SR Day
- - - -
November 15th LaGrange College, (GA) LaGrange, GA 12:00 p.m. EST
- - - -
Hawks88 - BROTHER
hope all is well
good to hear from u..... did u ever get by to see the the 'new' brick house
keep the faith
and Go Hawks
Quote from: Hawks88 on March 27, 2008, 10:26:26 PM
Huntingdon has posted an updated schedule. The Greenville & MacMurray games have been swapped from the original one that was posted. It also looks like all conference games are to start at Noon local time. While I dislike the one hour less for tailgating, I understand that it is probably done to get the visiting teams on the road home a little earlier. Man, is September ever going to get here?
Go Hawks!!
- - - -
September 6th Maryville College (TN) Samford Stadium 1:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
September 13th Faulkner University, (AL) Montgomery, AL Cramton Bowl 7:00 p.m. CDT
Capital City Showdown II
- - - -
September 20th - - - - - - - - - - - - - O P E N- - - - - - - - -
- - - -
September 27th MacMurray College, (IL) Samford Stadium 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
October 4th Greenville College, (IL) Greenville, IL 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
October 11th Eureka College, (IL) Eureka, IL 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
October 18th Blackburn College, (IL) Samford Stadium 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
October 25th Westminster College, (MO) Fulton, MO 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
November 1st Principia College, (IL) Samford Stadium 12:00 p.m. CDT
- - - -
November 8th Hampden-Sydney College (VA) Samford Stadium 1:00 p.m. CST
SR Day
- - - -
November 15th LaGrange College, (GA) LaGrange, GA 12:00 p.m. EST
- - - -
Brunch at Samford! ;)
Quote from: AF4 on March 27, 2008, 11:21:37 PM
Hawks88 - BROTHER
hope all is well
good to hear from u..... did u ever get by to see the the 'new' brick house
keep the faith
and Go Hawks
Af4, how you been? I haven't been to Montgomery since football season. Work's been so crazy the last three months I've hardly been out of Wadley(yes, that is very depressing). Hoping to make it down for reunion weekend next month for my 20 year class reunion. Boy, 20 years can fly by can't it?
Go Hawks!!
Hawks
i can thank of worse places to b tied down to than Wadley.... it is pretty country up there....
we r better than we deserve...Lord has blessed us... as far 20 yrs... brother...for me.... more than 30 from under graduate school
it will ..unfortunatly.... go faster and faster as u age
the gym is nice...went to a girls bball playoff game (against lagrange) with the boy several weeks ago
they r finishing up spring training next wk, moved coach Mills (big bald mustache-beard, UWA nose guard) to D-Line coach when coach williams went to millsaps... the boy tells me that he is an excellent line coach
the boy still loves the school
b good... i will tell brother jerry i spoke to u...should see him at Church (Lord willing) on sunday
Go Hawks...and keep the faith
The 2008 schedule is now posted on the SLIAC site.
http://www.sliac.org/mens3/football/2008/schedule.htm
For your viewing pleasure, courtesy of finsleft on the MIAC board, the Finnish rock group Leningrad Cowboys and the Red Army (Russia) Choir performing...
Sweet Home Alabama! (http://www.tothepointnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3114&Itemid=76)
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 17, 2008, 06:34:12 PM
For your viewing pleasure, courtesy of finsleft on the MIAC board, the Finnish rock group Leningrad Cowboys and the Red Army (Russia) Choir performing...
Sweet Home Alabama!
(http://www.tothepointnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3114&Itemid=76)
That's just off the wall,Ralph. I wonder if Ronnie Van Zant is rolling over in his grave. When it finished did you see that they also have their versions of "Stairway to Heaven" and "My Way"?
i actually like the version of the Leningrad Cowboys....... in the video, the Red Army folks r trying thier best to sing the words (u no they have no idea what they r saying...'where the skies r so blue'!!!!)
M&M's version in 8 mile is ok...but almost evil and UnGodly... i feel dirty each time i see it
.... but the best (non-Skynard version) has got to b Jewel ("being southern is a state of mind").... like TuPac once said..."its all good"
ralph & Hawks 88, i pray yall r both well
keep the faith and go Hawks
Yeah, Stairway to Heaven is very good!
several Hawks were honored by the NFF Honor Society for academics....
Will Brannon
C.J. Easterlyy
Cliff Groce
Matt Thompson
Zach Golson
Justin Nelson
Will Smith
Bryan Wells
only 3 other colleges/universities had more honorees...
Auburn had one...and of course...the alabama trade school had none
keep the faith
Quote from: AF4 on May 09, 2008, 01:18:42 PM
...the alabama trade school had none
keep the faith
Classic. I love it!
Go Hawks!!
9/27 Northwestern at Crown
9/27 St. Scholastica at Minnesota Morris
10/4 Crown at St. Scholastica
10/4 Martin Luther at Minnesota Morris
10/11 Minnesota Morris at Crown
10/11 Martin Luther at Northwestern
10/18 Crown at Martin Luther
10/18 Northwestern at St. Scholastica
10/25 Minnesota Morris at Northwestern
11/8 Martin Luther at St. Scholastica
In the month of May the VFW distributes Buddy Poppies. Please take time to give a dollar and take a poppy. The proceeds of this go to aid the Disabled Vets (http://www.vfw.org/index.cfm?fa=cmty.levelc&cid=127&tok=1)
Mike Dougherty
Commander VFW Memorial Post 3776
Secaucus NJ
In Flander's Field
by John McCrae
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow,
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead.
Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved and now we lie,
In Flanders Fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw,
The torch, be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us, who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow,
In Flanders Fields.
http://www.csssaints.com/Sports/football/2008/FB-uni.asp?path=football&tab=mens
Those are some pretty sweet looking unis.
Smith03, do you have any season preview information on any of the UMAC teams and also on Trinity Bible (I know their not UMAC, but still)?
108 days until kickoff........seems like a long time.
So who's the favorite to win this new conference?
I'm thinking Greenville but that's only based on the history between them , Eureka and MacMurray. I dont think the other teams have played each other before.
I am excited (and i believe the entire Hawk Nation is also)
we have only played LaGrange (W 43-0) and Westminister (W 42-27)
...so have no clue about how we will fair against the other schools
we were 5-5 last yr (losing to 2 7-3 schools in overtime, 2 schools that went to the playoffs, and oshkosh) and we lost a bunch to graduation...so we shall see...
we no the competition will b tough, we play SLIAC members, Hamden-Sydney (ODAC Champ), Muurville, and Faulkner (NAIA)....we hope to b able to compete
keep the faith
hay
for those interested Zach Golson ..last yrs starting QB at Huntingdon...was named head varsity football coach at Hope Hull, Al 's Hooper Academy.... just out of school... Hooper is an AISA 2-A school
here is site
http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football
way to go Zach... and Go Hawks
keep the faith
Quote from: AF4 on May 21, 2008, 10:08:04 PM
hay
for those interested Zach Golson ..last yrs starting QB at Huntingdon...was named head varsity football coach at Hope Hull, Al 's Hooper Academy.... just out of school... Hooper is an AISA 2-A school
here is site
http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football
way to go Zach... and Go Hawks
keep the faith
I saw this a while back and meant to post it but got sidetracked.
Good luck, Zach.
Go Hawks!!
IVE HEARD THAT MINN MORRIS HAS THE BEST RECRUIT IN THE UMAC THIS YEAR
AARON DORSEY 6'3 230 POUND LB HE IS A BEAST JUCO KID WITH 3 YEARS LEFT TO PLAY
I SEEN THIS KID DO CAGE FIGHTING IN OMAHA AND HE WAS THE TOUGHEST ONE POUND 4 POUND
Quote from: DIV3GUY on May 30, 2008, 01:46:07 PM
IVE HEARD THAT MINN MORRIS HAS THE BEST RECRUIT IN THE UMAC THIS YEAR
AARON DORSEY 6'3 230 POUND LB HE IS A BEAST JUCO KID WITH 3 YEARS LEFT TO PLAY
I SEEN THIS KID DO CAGE FIGHTING IN OMAHA AND HE WAS THE TOUGHEST ONE POUND 4 POUND
Thanks Dad.
Quote from: DIV3GUY on May 30, 2008, 01:46:07 PM
IVE HEARD THAT MINN MORRIS HAS THE BEST RECRUIT IN THE UMAC THIS YEAR
AARON DORSEY 6'3 230 POUND LB HE IS A BEAST JUCO KID WITH 3 YEARS LEFT TO PLAY
I SEEN THIS KID DO CAGE FIGHTING IN OMAHA AND HE WAS THE TOUGHEST ONE POUND 4 POUND
Welcome to the boards, DIV3GUY. We are glad to have new posters in the UMAC board.
The UMAC has been growing steadily for several years now. They will be on their own this season.
Bring your friends.
(BTW, please review the Terms of Service, item #3.) Typing in ALL CAPS is bad form and is subject to removal.)
Please keep us updated on the new players in the UMAC! :)
NO DAD HERE I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH AARON AND HE WAS TELLING THAT HE SIGNED LAST WEEK TO THIS SCHOOL .
JUST WAIT AND SEE HE IS THE REAL DEAL. OUT OF HS HE WAS OFFERED BY NEBRASKA K STATE IOWA STATE GRAMBLING AND ALOT OF D 2 SCHOOLS BUT DID NOT QUALIFY AFTER A YEAR IN JUCO AND A YEAR OFF HE WANTED TO GET BACK IN FOOTBALL AND MORRIS CAME CALLING
OK, well, welcome board, but seriously, turn off the caps lock.
Quote from: DIV3GUY on May 30, 2008, 01:57:51 PM
NO DAD HERE I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH AARON AND HE WAS TELLING THAT HE SIGNED LAST WEEK TO THIS SCHOOL .
JUST WAIT AND SEE HE IS THE REAL DEAL. OUT OF HS HE WAS OFFERED BY NEBRASKA K STATE IOWA STATE GRAMBLING AND ALOT OF D 2 SCHOOLS BUT DID NOT QUALIFY AFTER A YEAR IN JUCO AND A YEAR OFF HE WANTED TO GET BACK IN FOOTBALL AND MORRIS CAME CALLING
Sure Dawg...whatever you say. :)
Ok time will tell ill go out on a limb and say he will be all conference.
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Quote from: DIV3GUY on May 30, 2008, 02:24:46 PM
Ok time will tell ill go out on a limb and say he will be all conference.
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Hate to break it to you, but all-conference in the UMAC isn't exactly the pinnacle of athletic success.
What were they feeding him at JUCO to put on 40 pounds since high school?
ok TC smart guy that rivals stuff was done after his sophmore year in hs he spent a year at a juco in 2006 then sat out a year 2007 so you mean to tell me that a person stops feeling out after is sophmore year in HS get real and maybe I over did it 6'3 220 is more realistic
This is going to be fun.
Quote from: TC on May 30, 2008, 02:50:49 PM
Quote from: DIV3GUY on May 30, 2008, 02:24:46 PM
Ok time will tell ill go out on a limb and say he will be all conference.
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Hate to break it to you, but all-conference in the UMAC isn't exactly the pinnacle of athletic success.
What were they feeding him at JUCO to put on 40 pounds since high school?
It really had been too long since a member of Johnnie faithful found a way to bash the UMAC. :o
maybe this dorsey kid can help Morris move up a few spots in the standings this year after a 2007 season where the cougs lost to all of the 2008 UMAC teams including Crown. yes, that Crown.
Then again, maybe there's another reason Dorsey wasn't picked up by a d-1 after a year at JUCO as classes aren't much easier to pass at Minn. Morris than they are at Iowa State or whathaveyou.
Quote from: OxyBob on May 31, 2008, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: DIV3GUY on May 30, 2008, 01:46:07 PM
IVE HEARD THAT MINN MORRIS HAS THE BEST RECRUIT IN THE UMAC THIS YEAR ... I SEEN THIS KID DO CAGE FIGHTING IN OMAHA ...
Quote from: wildcat11 on May 30, 2008, 02:13:09 PM
Sure Dawg...whatever you say.
Welcome to the board. I see you already met wildcat11 and are off to a RIP-ROARING start. D-III definitely needs more cage fighters. When will you seen him again?
OxyBob
Now that makes me laugh hard. Thanks OB
Quote from: AO on June 02, 2008, 07:41:16 PM
Quote from: TC on May 30, 2008, 02:50:49 PM
Quote from: DIV3GUY on May 30, 2008, 02:24:46 PM
Ok time will tell ill go out on a limb and say he will be all conference.
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Hate to break it to you, but all-conference in the UMAC isn't exactly the pinnacle of athletic success.
What were they feeding him at JUCO to put on 40 pounds since high school?
It really had been too long since a member of Johnnie faithful found a way to bash the UMAC. :o
maybe this dorsey kid can help Morris move up a few spots in the standings this year after a 2007 season where the cougs lost to all of the 2008 UMAC teams including Crown. yes, that Crown.
Then again, maybe there's another reason Dorsey wasn't picked up by a d-1 after a year at JUCO as classes aren't much easier to pass at Minn. Morris than they are at Iowa State or whathaveyou.
Sounds like a kid who has all the talent in the world and not enough brain power to open a pack of hot dogs. I have seen these kids before. Quit and come back crying. Oh I miss football I am such a crap face for quiting. They end up playing for some perenial looser and show signs of why everyone wanted them at one point, and why no one wants them now. Sounds like a cancer in the making for the UMM football team.
BTW: If the kids is such a stallion on the cage fighting arena, why doesn't he try out for the UFC. I hear they have their own reality show now. 8)
Here's news on a prep player headed St. Scholastica's direction:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=759157
("Pius picks" section)
Here's a little tidbit of actual football info in the middle of a long hot summer. Huntingdon just published it's list of 69 newcomers (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football) for this fall. Looks like some big guys sprinkled in there. Can't wait to see what they bring to the table. Just a couple more months 'til we find out.
Go Hawks!!
Hawks88
it looks like (and what i hear) they have some speed coming in... we shall see, buddy
this was also on the site: Football players making the Deans list
Shane Corley, Steven Laye, Cole Muzio, John Fletcher, Jacob King, Will Smith, Alex Baronich, Justin Nelson, Justin Ridgeway, Chad Newton, Tal Lynn, Heath Woodruff, Steven Penewitt, Matt Thompson, Bryan Wells, and C.J. Easterly
the bummer is no one on there with Pugh for a last name...oh well (i have told him a 3.0 is ok...but not great)
i pray this note finds u and all of Whatley al doing well...and enduring this drought....
keep the faith and ..Go Hawks
WATCH OUT!!!!!! THE EUREKA RED EVILS HAVE A GREAT CORE OF RETURNING PLAYERS AND PROBABLY THE BEST RECRUITING CLASS THEY'VE HAD IN 10 YEARS
SO LOOK FOR A VERY TOUGH TEAM THIS YEAR
Wow!!! ALL CAPS!
Shouting it from the roof tops, eh?
Welcome to the boards! Eureka's having a strong team will help this conference.
Best wishes this season.
I guess my early season favorite is Huntingdon.
I think that they are excited to get to a conference and a chance at a Pool B bid.
Hero Ralph
we appreciate being your early season favorite... but lots of rebuilding to do.. o-line, qb, key d line folks.... we will see
Lord willing the Hawks will step up and do thier best in this new conference
TXMLB...welcome to the board... Hawks88 and i r Huntingdon boosters, Andras Bacia appears to like Greenville, Ralph Turner is ever present and the most knowledgable person on the entire site (and if he ain't, then he is amongst em - to paraphrase dizzy dean)
Andras ranks Greenville numero one-o with Eureka and MacMurray in the next 2 spots
Lord willing we (Huntingdon) will see yall (Eureka) on Oct 11, 2008 in Eureka, Il
good luck and keep the faith
keep the faith
Quote from: AF4 on July 17, 2008, 01:49:53 PM
Hero Ralph
we appreciate being your early season favorite... but lots of rebuilding to do.. o-line, qb, key d line folks.... we will see
Lord willing the Hawks will step up and do thier best in this new conference
TXMLB...welcome to the board... Hawks88 and i r Huntingdon boosters, Andras Bacia appears to like Greenville, Ralph Turner is ever present and the most knowledgable person on the entire site (and if he ain't, then he is amongst em - to paraphrase dizzy dean)
Andras ranks Greenville numero one-o with Eureka and MacMurray in the next 2 spots
Lord willing we (Huntingdon) will see yall (Eureka) on Oct 11, 2008 in Eureka, Il
good luck and keep the faith
keep the faith
Actually I said,
"I'm thinking Greenville but that's only based on the history between them , Eureka and MacMurray. I don't think the other teams have played each other before."
I didn't rank them 1, 2, 3 in the conference. I saw Greenville and Eureka play last season and Greenville's returning QB dominated the game. I think one of Eureka's wins last year was at MacMurray. Honestly I have no idea who will win the conference there are a lot of unknowns at this point.
Hey TX-MLB I know one of the Eureka recruits very well but I haven't heard much about the rest of the class. Can you give us the inside scoop?
Andras Bacia
sorry i miss interpreted your response....
glad to have u on here
which team is yo team... like i said Greenville it appeared to me u liked Greenville...but (as u can see) i am often wrong
keep the faith
No problem AF4, I can certianly see how that would have been misinterpreted.
I think Greenville will be good but my team is the Red Devils. Eureka has struggled for awhile so I hope TX-MLB is right when he says they'll be tough this year.
Eureka College.... isn't that the trainig ground for (in my humble opinion) one of our top 5 greatist US Presidents...
Lord willing the Huntingdon faithful will safely get up there Oct 11
good luck this season, and hopefully when we meet....we will both be undefeated
keep the faith
Yes sir, it's the alma mater of President Reagan. One of the best.
There's a small Reagan museum in the student center and a big hunk of the Berlin wall in the middle of campus.
Andras
thanks.... i passed the info to the Head Hawk...mayb the kids can visit those things (particularly the piece of the wall)
keep the faith
well my inside scoop is that last year eureka had 11 all conference players from first team to honorable mention 8 of which are returning our defense lost only 2 starters and from the offense we lost two starters one being justin dempsey who ran for 292 yards against macmurray which is a big hole to fill also 4 of our 5 players of the week from the illini badger conference return.
from what i've heard our recruits coming are very talented and some are expected to step up and start or get some action. the biggest improvement this year is the depth we have over the entire field.
i agree that the game against greenville was a terrible game for eureka we had key starters out that game but greenville has a amazing quaterback
i would expect a better performance this year and i am excited that we get greenville at home for the last game of the season it should be exciting to watch
TX-MLB
That sounds like a good core and I hope those recruits come ready to play.
I plan on making it to more games this year and can't wait for it to get started.
Quote from: AF4 on July 17, 2008, 01:49:53 PM
TXMLB...welcome to the board... Hawks88 and i r Huntingdon boosters, Andras Bacia appears to like Greenville, Ralph Turner is ever present and the most knowledgable person on the entire site (and if he ain't, then he is amongst em - to paraphrase dizzy dean)
With you guys being boosters do you make it to the games? If so it would be kinda cool to meet y'all. I'll be playing this year. I didn't make the first list but now the 2nd one is up im there im listed. Shane Davis if your interested in knowing. http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football it's going to be a great season!
shane ...welcome aboard
hope u r hitting the iron and running this summer... they r 3 + deep at backer now.. just come in with a good attitude and b ready to work
and get ready for tough academics.... Huntingdon is a great education
welcome and do well
keep the faith and Go Hawks
yeah i've been working out and running got my bench up to 385 now. Squating around 475 and power cleaning 290, 40 time got better also. Im not to worried about the LB depth to be honest. Just gonna work my butt off and spending A LOT of time watching film. Hopefully I will be starting sometime this season beacuse of it. Right now Hicks as me at Will Linebacker. If im not mistaking thats where Granger plays? Oh well we can always move me to Mike or Sam.
Im going up the 30th for Orientation and staying with someone for 2 weeks. This way im up there before most of the other Freshmen and I can learn the defense quicker. Got a scrimmage the 22nd of August afterall ya know. Only thing is i have no clue who im staying with. Coach Hicks is supposed to let me know when i get there. oh and tough education...if you work hard and pay attention in the classroom its not that tough. ;D cant wait for the 30th.
Hawk Em
good luck shane
hope to see u this season... we make all the games
keep the faith
well shane i look forward to seeing you out there up in eureka
i am the starting middle linebacker
if i could give you any advice (which i shouldn't lol) just put your head in there and hit ............you do that and they will find a way to get you on the field
Tx-MLB
how big is the Ronald Reagan museum on yalls campus...and do u have any idea if it is open on saturdays
if our son makes the travel team this year, we will try to make to see the game
thanks
..and keep the faith
the reagan museum is open every day during the school year
it only closes for holidays
if you make it to the game you should introduce yourself to me at the end of the game i will be number #30
thanks, if we make it up we will try to see the museum and the piece of the wall
Lord willing we will both b undefeated prior to the game
keep the faith
So does anyone have any early predictions for the upcoming season?
i think the top 4 teams will be huntingdon greenville westminster and eureka
since it is new conference there is no telling the order of those top four i think it could be pretty close
i thank since its a new conference...it will b a tossup all the way around
keep the faith
http://www.morris.umn.edu/athletics/View.php?itemID=6067
30 Football athletes announce intentions to enroll at Minnesota, Morris
Posted by Brian Curtis on Thursday, Jul. 24, 2008
For Immediate Release: July 24, 2008 – University of Minnesota, Morris Head Football Coach Todd Hickman has announced that 30 athletes have announced their intentions to enroll at the University of Minnesota, Morris this fall to play football for the Cougars.
Of the 30 athletes, a total of 24 are from Minnesota, with 20 of those being high school freshmen.
There are seven transfers on the list, three from Texas and one from California.
Coach Hickman led UMM to a 4-5 overall record in his first year as Cougar head coach last year and a 4-3 mark in the Upper Midwest Athletic Conference (UMAC).
Listed below is a listing of the athletes.
Ted Hoffman QB- Paynesville HS
Ht: Wt: 6'2 175 lbs
Mom: Janell Hoffman
Dad: Dan Hoffman
Other Sp: Bask/Base
Stat: 79-158 1232yds 15 TDs
Post Honors: All Conf(FB), All Conf (Bk)
Jordan Gegen FB- Anoka HS
Ht: Wt: 6'0 185 lbs
Mom: Brenda Gegen
Dad: Pat Gegen
Other Sp: Bask/Base
Quote: "Plays Bigger, Best blocker, Never missed Practice"
Ernest Tucker LB- Vermillion HS
Ht: Wt: 5'11 200 lbs
Mom: Jacqueline Tucker
Dad: Ernest Clark
Other Sp: Baseball
Quote: Very Aggressive, Nose for the Ball
Todd Gramenz WR/DB- Harding HS
Ht: Wt: 5'10 150 lbs
Mom: Diane Gramenz
Dad: Darryll Tilmon
Post Honors: 2X All Conf, Capt
Stat: 6 Ints 10 TDs
Quote: Explosive
Gabe Sturtz OL- Blue Earth HS
Ht: Wt: 5'11 235 lbs
Mom: Jane Sturtz
Dad: Robert Sturtz
Other Sp: Base
Post Honors: 2X All Area/ All Conf
Quote: Get the job done
Branden Livingston QB Hanks HS, El Paso TX
Ht: Wt: 6'4 260 lbs
Mom: Melissa Livingston
Dad: Michael Livingston
Stat: 169-337 2392 yds 24 TDs
Post Honors: HM all-district, HM all-city, 25th ranked QB in Texas, El Paso All Star Game
Alex Berglund DL- Litchfield HS
Ht: Wt: 6'0 165 lbs
Mom: Carla Rick
Dad: Larry Rick
Other Sp: Wrestle/Track & Field
Stat: 33 Tackle/ 31/2 Sacks
Post Honors: All Conf, All Area, 3 Sport Captain
Beau Mangen LB- Sleepy Eye HS
Ht: Wt: 5'11 187 lbs
Mom: Kris Mangen
Dad: Dennis Mangen
Other Sp: Track/Basket
Stat: 2nd on Team in Tackles
Post Honor: All Conference LB/RB
Quote: Quietly Aggressive
Tyler West OL- Elk River HS
Ht: Wt: 6'0 215 lbs
Mom: Laura West
Dad: Randy West
Post Honors: Lineman of the Year
Quote: Aggressive & Gym Rat
Jamin Ivers WR/DB- Zimmerman HS
Ht: Wt: 6'0 160 lbs
Mom: Gail Ivers
Dad: John Ivers
Post Honors: All Conf, All Sect
Quote: Take Everything, Leave Nothing
Devon Johnson-Creamer WR- Hibbing HS
Ht: Wt: 6'2 180 lbs
Mom: Darcia Johnson
Dad: Chuck Creamer
Other Sp: Bask/Base
Post Honors: All Conf/All Sect
Stat: 30 Catches 300 yards
Roger Conen LB- Bel Air HS (El Paso, TX)
Ht: Wt: 6'2 225 lbs
Mom: Ester Conen
Dad: Troy Conen
Stat: 17 Sacks(Lead District), 30 Career Sacks, 102 Tackles
Post Honors: All-District, All-City, 2nd Team All-State, Participant El Paso All Star Game
Cole Baker LB- Mendocino College (CA)
Ht: Wt: 5'9 185 lbs
Mom: Melinda Baker
Stat: 10 Tackles, 1 Sack, 2 Pass Def
Post Honors: Conf Player of the Week
Vincent Patton OL- Andover HS
Ht: Wt: 6'2 225 lbs
Mom: Elaine Patton
Dad: Chuck Patton
Other Sp: Lacrosse, Bask
Post Honor: All Conf, Academic All Conf
Thomas Sullivan WR- Brandon HS
Ht: Wt: 6'0 165 lbs
Mom: Deb Sullivan
Dad: Tim Sullivan
Other Sp: Bask, Base
Post Honors: All Conf (Foot, Bask, Base), Dallas Hanson Hustle + Desire Award (Bask, Foot)
Ross Kigner DB/K– Mound Park Academy
Ht: Wt: 5'9 140 lbs
Mom: Laurie Kigner
Dad: Jonathon Kigner
Other Sp: Bask
Post Honor: 2X Coach Choice Award, Capt, Most Improved Player
Max Matthews TE- St. Paul Arlington
Ht: Wt: 6'1 220 lbs
Mom: Yvette Kasner
Dad: Joe Kasner
Other Sp: Bask/Golf
Quote: Never give up attitude
Mitch Zimmer DL- Little Falls
Ht: Wt: 6'3 220 lbs
Mom: Judy Zimmer
Dad: Monty Zimmer
Post Honors: All Conf, Athlete of the Month, MVP Lineman
Quote: Fast, Aggressive
Matt Privratsky K – Walker Area ('07)
Ht: Wt: 5'10 145 lbs
Mom: Jean
Dad: Scott
Other Sports: Soccer
Post Honors: Captain
Garrett Mensing RB – Blue Earth Area
Ht: Wt: 5'9 155 lbs
Mom: Diane
Dad: Mark
Other Sports: Basketball, Baseball
Honors: Defensive Back of the year (08), FB all Conference (2X), HM all Conference Basketball
Stats: 1000 yards rushing, 10 TD's. 2 ints, 2 FR.
Seth Hubbard QB – Becker HS, U of River Falls
Ht: Wt: 6'5 195 lbs
Mom: Sherry
Dad: Tony
Other Sports: Basketball
Honors: All-Conf (06), All-Section (06)
Adam Fragodt WR – Becker HS, Rochester Community Technical College
Ht: Wt: 6'4 165 lbs
Mom: Beth
Dad: Tom
Other Sports: Basketball
Honors: All-Conference (06)
Jason Nomsen LB – Jefferson HS (Alex), Gustavus College
Ht: Wt: 5'11 210 lbs
Mom: Mel
Dad: Dave
Honors: All Conference (06) Academic All-Conference (06)
Bryan Dean WR - McNicholas HS (Cincinnati, OH), U MN Crookston (JR)
Ht: Wt: 6'0 200 lbs
Mom:
Dad:
Sports:
Honors:
Theo Powell OL – Oshkosh West HS, U MN Crookston (JR)
Ht: Wt: 6'2 260 lbs
Mom:
Dad:
Sports:
Honors:
Tommy Leon OL – Hanks HS (El Paso, TX)
Ht: Wt: 6'0 255 lbs
Mom: Alma
Dad: Martin
Honors: HM All-city, Player of Week
Cameron Kramer QB – Concordia Academy
Ht: Wt: 5'11 185 lbs
Mom: Mary
Dad: Carlyle
Sports: Wrestling, Baseball
Honors: All-Conference, MVP, "O" player of year
Zach Gertken DL – Rocori HS
Ht: Wt: 6'2 250 lbs
Mom: Sharon
Dad: Ken
Sports: Wrestling
Honors: 2nd team All-Conference
Justin Towle DL – Rush City HS
Ht: Wt: 5'10 170 lbs
Mom Jeanette Carmichael
Sports: Wrestling, Track
Honors: All-Conference, Defensive MVP
Robert Koranda RB – Becker HS, St. Cloud St
Ht: Wt: 5'6 155
Mom:Joanne
Dad: Lloyd
Sports, Wrestling, Basball
Honor: All-Conference (06), MVP (06)
Hey guys whats up. I go to MacMurray and I've been reading some of the predictions and I must say it will be a toss-up. I think there will be some good ball being played in every game. I believe this conference will be as good as it had been in the past.
Quote from: GC_MC0509 on July 31, 2008, 12:24:37 AM
Hey guys whats up. I go to MacMurray and I've been reading some of the predictions and I must say it will be a toss-up. I think there will be some good ball being played in every game. I believe this conference will be as good as it had been in the past.
How's the Mac sqaud going to look this year? You all had a lot of young guys see time last year, hopefully they've progressed nicely.
Honestly, looking better than last year already. Some of the guys we got in are pretty good. I think now we just have to get those guys to buy into what we're trying to do at MAC. In the past couple years we hadn't played as a team. People who still believe in MAC PRIDE will notice our change.
Huntingdon's list is up to 82 newcomers (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football) for this fall. Along with the 68 (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football/roster) I count still showing on the returning roster it looks like HC is expecting at least 150 for the opening of camp in a couple of weeks.
Anybody else ready for some football? It's going to be a long month waiting for September to get here.
Go Hawks!!
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 31, 2008, 04:37:57 PM
Huntingdon's list is up to 82 newcomers (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football) for this fall. Along with the 68 (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football/roster) I count still showing on the returning roster it looks like HC is expecting at least 150 for the opening of camp in a couple of weeks.
Anybody else ready for some football? It's going to be a long month waiting for September to get here.
Go Hawks!!
150! That's a lot for any school. I see there are 19 DBs and 17 LBs on the newcomers list!?
Do the Hawks schedule any freshman games?
Quote from: Andras Bacia on July 31, 2008, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 31, 2008, 04:37:57 PM
Huntingdon's list is up to 82 newcomers (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football) for this fall. Along with the 68 (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football/roster) I count still showing on the returning roster it looks like HC is expecting at least 150 for the opening of camp in a couple of weeks.
Anybody else ready for some football? It's going to be a long month waiting for September to get here.
Go Hawks!!
150! That's a lot for any school. I see there are 19 DBs and 17 LBs on the newcomers list!?
Do the Hawks schedule any freshman games?
Yes, there is a JV Schedule (http://football.huntingdon.edu/2008JVfootballschedule.pdf).
Go Hawks!!
Quote from: GC_MC0509 on July 31, 2008, 04:06:10 PM
Honestly, looking better than last year already. Some of the guys we got in are pretty good. I think now we just have to get those guys to buy into what we're trying to do at MAC. In the past couple years we hadn't played as a team. People who still believe in MAC PRIDE will notice our change.
Good to hear. Looking forward to heading back to J-ville for homecoming this October, haven't had the opportunity to get back for quite some time now. Good luck in camp!
Well I'm sure we wont disappoint when u come for homecoming. Thank you much for the luck. Its gonna be a hot one...
Quote from: GC_MC0509 on August 01, 2008, 01:50:07 PM
Well I'm sure we wont disappoint when u come for homecoming. Thank you much for the luck. Its gonna be a hot one...
Do you guys practice up campus, or down at the old field? If up campus, you guys don't know what hot is during camp. Down campus behind the old field, not one lick of a breeze, always smelled like compost, was usually like concrete after the first week, etc.. Glad those days are over... :D
We practice down at the old game field. Oh I know how hot it gets. Yeah after a week or so it starts to smell horrible. I got one last year of that ha ha...Its worth it.
Quote from: TX-MLB on July 28, 2008, 09:23:36 PM
i think the top 4 teams will be huntingdon greenville westminster and eureka
since it is new conference there is no telling the order of those top four i think it could be pretty close
Wow, Been a while since I've posted on D3. Anyway, for Eureka to finish in the top 4 is a longshot, not saying it can't happen, but not a very high probability. In the past four years they have only won 6 games, and that was playing in a weak IBFC conference. However, again I could be wrong and they could surprise some people. As for me, Not too familiar with many of the teams in the new conference except for the old IBFC teams. However, if I had to make a guess. I would say it would be a two team race with Greenville and Huntington competeing for the title. I also believe Westminister will make some noise as well, but in the end I think Huntington will take everything.
I think at the end of the year it will be Greenville at the top. If this team played the way they did at the end of the season at the beginning of the season they would have easily won the IBFC. They easily have the top QB in the conference that has already had 2 years of starting experience along with a tough D. They prob. be the most tested team as they play a solid team in Wash U then travel to Augustana.
But as someone already said it is hard to say who is preseason #1 as this is a brand new conference
Suspect St. Scholastica will have a few hard knocks as it starts up ... but just wanted to wish Coach Carlson and St. Scholastica the best.
Coach had a long and fine tenure at Wabash College ... in fact is being inducted into the Wabash Hall of Fame this year ... as a non player honoree. Coach Carlson is a class act and will build St. Scholastica into a very fine league competitor.
For you St. Scholastica supporters, I thought I would recite the description of why Coach Carlson is to be inducted into the Wabash College Athletic Hall Of Fame. You got a good coach:
Greg Carlson was an 18-year head football coach at Wabash College, leading the Little Giants from 1983 through 2000. He ranks second all-time in football coaching victories with 112, trailing only the legendary Pete Vaughan. Carlson led Wabash to Indiana Collegiate Athletic Conference championships in 1991, 1992, and 1994, and the led Wabash to the Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference championships in 1998. He posted a career record of 112-57-2 (.655) over 18 seasons and 171 games. He coached 23 All-Americans or Academic All-Americans. Among his highlight victories were: a 45-20 win over Taylor in the first-ever college football game played at the then-Hoosier Dome; a 28-8 victory over DePauw in 1985 that knocked the Tigers from the playoffs; a 40-26 win over DePauw in the 100th Monon Bell Classic; and a 28-24 win over the Tigers in 1994, a game televised on ESPN2.
So.........
Seems like nothing in the SLIAC is going on seeing as no one has posted for like 3 days. Any updates out there on anything? Anything at all.
I know Mac starts their camp on the 14th I believe. Should be interesting to see what they are going to do this year and how they make the transition from last year.I heard they are bringing in some pretty good talent.
Any news on greenville, or any other schools.
hay
Huntingdon camp starts 8/13/08.... lots of new faces
~60-70 returners..and ~80 commitments.....appear to have more speed than size
2 new coaches... a former troy player and a former hawk.... the troy connection is still there as a 5 of 8 coaches played and or coached at troy u
also interesting that troy has been a mainstay onpast jv schedules, is not listed this season
it will b interesting... it is a toss up from our stand point, we play our first game 9/6 against murrville (d-3 usa conf), then 9/13 against faulkner (naia southern conf) then jump into sliac schedule...only remaning non sliac game will b hamden-sydney (sp-d-3 odac) on 11/8/08
we finish up against our closest conference rival ...lagrange
...lagrange and faulkner are like family feuds (with faulkner like fighting your evil, tatooed brother, that dad kicked out, who u really do not like at all....... and playing lagrange like going to a wrestling tourney, and drawing your cousin .... u want to beat him...but yall r kin....and semi friendly, and he is a nice guy)
everyone is excited to b in a conference...and we no all games r important and none will b easy...this will b good competition against good folks
keep the faith
Quote from: NCAA Football on August 09, 2008, 01:05:03 PM
So.........
Seems like nothing in the SLIAC is going on seeing as no one has posted for like 3 days. Any updates out there on anything? Anything at all.
I think it's just a new conference and nobody really knows each other very well. I predict things will pickup once the season starts.
Don't under estimate Eureka this year. I've heard some good things about their returning players and the new recruits. I think they are going from around a 45 to 50 player roster last season to over 70 this year with a couple of those recruits expected to contribute a lot. But I'll wait for the school make the official roster announcements.
They check in on the 15th.
Go Red Devils!
trust me.... no one i no is gonna underestimate Eureka....
we expect them to b pretty tough
we r just proud to b in a conference
keep the faith
Updated Huntingdon newcomers list - 78
http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football
Keep up the good work Huntingdon SID!
Huntingdon has 141 show up for camp.
http://huntingdon.edu/athletics/athletics_news/aug_08/08_13_08_fb
2008 Huntingdon Preseason Camp Schedule
Thursday, August 14 - 3:30 p.m.
Friday, August 15 - 9:30 a.m.
Saturday, August 16 - 9:30 a.m.
Sunday, August 17 - Team Outing at Frazer Memorial United Methodist Church at 9:30 a.m. Practice to begin at 3:30 p.m.
Monday, August 18 - 9:30 a.m.
Tuesday, August 19 - 9:30 a.m. and 4 p.m.
Wednesday, August 20 - 9:30 a.m.
Thursday, August 21 - 9:30 a.m. and 4 p.m.
Friday, August 22 - TBA
Saturday, August 23 - TBA, but will be in the afternoon
Sunday, August 24 - Team Outing at First United Methodist Church at 9:30 a.m. Practice to follow later that afternoon.
Quote from: Alfredeneumann on August 14, 2008, 01:50:38 PM
Huntingdon has 141 show up for camp.
Is Huntingdon the only D3 school in Alabama?
I would be interested to see what your attrition rate is from freshman to sophomore, sophs to juniors, etc.
With 30 returning letterman and 16 starters I'm guessing a lot of these guys won't ever see the field on game day.
hay
birmingham southern (scac) is in b'ham, lagrange (sliac) is in la grange, ga...and literally on the ga-bama line
montgomery has a second yr naia program in faulkner...and appears to compete for some ...not many...but some of our pool of kids
concordia is in selma (naia)..and a few of the kids who lift Huntingdon, have tranfered to concordia and faulkner... again not many
we play faulkner, but not concordia ..at least up till now
usually 1/2 -1/3 of the kids stay for thier soph yr...or so it appears... but i could be wrong
they have a good jv program
keep the faith
I see MacMurry being much improved but inexperience will cost them some games they will win next year and the year after. Eureka has been able to keep the same coach and get some consistancy, so look for them to get some wins and pull an upset during the year.
Greenville will be very experinenced at the skilled positions and are two and three deep at the LB position on defense. Staff has been together for 4 years and are very good. Blackburn is on the same path as Eureka, able to keep the coaches and build some depth. they will win some games and get an upset. The other schools I just know what I read.
Put Greenville, Huntington and Lagrange in a hat and pick one, just depends on who comes to play each week. Greenville will start with a very tough non-Confrence schedule- Washington University, Agustana, and Rose Hulman with the last two on the road. They could start the conf. schedule 1-2 or 0-3. But don't judge by that...
Quote from: AF4 on August 14, 2008, 03:11:02 PM
hay
birmingham southern (scac) is in b'ham, lagrange (sliac) is in la grange, ga...and literally on the ga-bama line
montgomery has a second yr naia program in faulkner...and appears to compete for some ...not many...but some of our pool of kids
concordia is in selma (naia)..and a few of the kids who lift Huntingdon, have tranfered to concordia and faulkner... again not many
we play faulkner, but not concordia ..at least up till now
usually 1/2 -1/3 of the kids stay for thier soph yr...or so it appears... but i could be wrong
they have a good jv program
keep the faith
There are 20 D3 programs with in a 120 mile radius of Eureka, 21 including Eureka. Plus a couple of NAIA schools
So those kids who want to play but aren't D1 or D2 material have a lot of choices. It keeps things interesting I suppose.
Andras
we have no where near the D3 competition yall do
alabama has 5 D-1, 4 D1fcs, 5 D2, 2 naia, and of course 2 relatively new D3 programs....2 of the D1's well in the SEC (Auburn and bama) and troy does well in the sunbelt, north alabama is THE Class of arguably the best D-2 conference (sunbelt- delta state, valdosta state, +.) UNA or north alabama although D2 has put ~60 folks into pro football over the yrs
this little poor state has produced 2 naia, 14 D-1, 7 D-2 national champs in football, several swac champs...and a bunch of gulf south and sec champs
our d3 athletes do not have the choices yall have...but many of our kids would have been walkons in d2, d1, naia, and d1fcs (formerly 1aa) prior to huntingdon and b southern......or would have gone up up to sewanee-milsaps-miss coll. -rhoades....and some still do
but now some have the ability to stay near home ...and get a better chance of playing football
keep the faith
Our condolences to the Huntingdon football family on their loss today.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 16, 2008, 01:01:19 AM
Our condolences to the Huntingdon football family on their loss today.
Ohhhh noooooooo! :-\
That is so sad! Football coaches and players in the south know how to handle the heat. It is just something that you are conditioned to do! You have been doing the drill since junior high!
Hydrate! Hydrate! Hydrate! I wonder about something else as a co-morbidity.
I have found the weather in Montgomery on August 15th. click here (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KMXF/2008/8/15/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA).
At noon, it was 84 degrees. That is
not hot for us in the South. In fact, yesterday was cooler than normal.
Thoughts and prayers from the IIAC to the family of Sam Collins and the Huntington College family on their great loss.
My condolences to the Collins family and to the Huntingdon football family.
I will keep them in my prayers.
I would like to add my condolences to the Collins family and to the Huntingdon College community.
I would like to send my condolences to the family of Sam Collins and to the whole Huntingdon College community. As we at Maryville found out in the fall, it is always tough to lose such a young man. I can only hope that no other school community has to deal with any more losses of those or are to young.
This is every parent's worst nightmare. I pray for this young man's family. Truly the worst thing I can imagine.
thank all of yall for your concern...here is the latest statement from Huntingdon
August 16, 2008
Huntingdon Copes With Death of Student-Athlete
Statement Attributed to:
J. Cameron West
President, Huntingdon College
Montgomery, Alabama
"The Huntingdon College community continues to grieve today after the death of freshman defensive lineman and pre-dentistry student Sam Collins, Friday, August 15. Sam was a 2008 graduate of Flomaton High School in Flomaton, Alabama. He was an All-State football athlete in high school. Sam fell ill following the Huntingdon football team's morning practice and died later in the evening at Jackson Hospital.
"Yesterday was the team's second official practice of the season after checking in on Wednesday, August 13. This week we have been running one-a-day practices from 9:30 to 11:30 a.m. The team has worn shorts, shirts, and helmets, but no pads. A brief team meeting followed the morning work-out, and the team left the field at 11:40 a.m. The high temperature during practice was 85 degrees, with relative humidity at 68%.
"Sam experienced cramping during the latter stages of practice, for which he received hydration. After practice, he became ill and was taken to the Athletic Training Room. He was assessed by our Certified Athletic Trainers, who called paramedics. Emergency personnel arrived on the scene and transported Sam to Jackson Hospital, where he arrived at approximately 12:30 p.m. Head Coach Mike Turk contacted Sam's mother, who traveled to Montgomery.
"The medical team at Jackson Hospital cared for Sam until his death at about 7:30 p.m. Mrs. Collins was at Jackson Hospital when her son passed away. An official cause of death has not been determined, and we understand an autopsy will be performed.
"We ask for your thoughts and prayers to surround the Collins family in this time of grief. Funeral arrangements are pending in Flomaton, Alabama.
"Coach Turk altered practice this morning in order to meet with players and to begin the healing process. Counselors are being made available for the players on the team.
"The Huntingdon community is devastated by the death of this bright and promising young man. We are planning a gathering on campus to remember him and to honor his life. A memorial fund has been established to assist the family with final arrangements. Donations may be sent to the Office of External Affairs, Huntingdon College, 1500 E. Fairview Avenue, Montgomery, Alabama, 36109. Checks may be made payable to Huntingdon College and designated to the Sam Collins Memorial Fund.
"At this time, these are all of the facts that we know. As new information is learned, we will release further statements."
----keep Sams family and all of the Huntingdon family in your prayers
keep the faith
Latest Huntingdon release concerning Sam Collins death.
Huntingdon Mourns Death of Student-Athlete Sam Collins
* Huntingdon Community in Shock After Tragedy: With heavy hearts, the Huntingdon community is continuing its progress toward the opening of the academic year August 25, while our thoughts and prayers are with the family of Sam Collins. Sam, a freshman from Flomaton, Alabama, became ill following the Huntingdon football team's Friday morning practice, August 15. He was taken by ambulance to Jackson Hospital, where he died at approximately 7:30 Friday evening. Sam was a pre-dentistry student at Huntingdon and was named to the All-State Football Team following his final high school season. An official cause of death has not been determined, and an autopsy is being conducted.
* Funeral Arrangements Pending: This morning, we learned that a funeral service for Sam is planned, tentatively, for Saturday, August 23, at 10:00 a.m. at Flomaton High School in Flomaton. The Reverend John Evangelista, pastor of First UMC Flomaton, will officiate.
* Memorial Fund Established: The Sam Collins Memorial Fund has been established to honor Sam's life. To contribute, checks may be made payable to Huntingdon College with Sam Collins Memorial Fund designated on the check and mailed to the Office of External Affairs at the College's address (see below).
* Chapel Service Dedicated to Sam's Memory: The first Huntingdon Chapel service of the year, Wednesday, September 3, will be conducted in honor of Sam Collins, according to Dr. Mark La Branche, Dean of Ligon Chapel and Senior Vice President for External Affairs. The service will be held from 11:45 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. in Ligon Chapel, Flowers Hall. All Chapel services are open to the public.
* Hawks Football Practice Resumes: The Huntingdon Hawks football team resumed practice Sunday, August 17, only the fourth official practice day of the season. On Saturday, Director of Athletics Buzz Phillips said, "You could tell that our young men had Sam and his family on their minds today. He had a youthful enthusiasm that really made others around him better. Today's practice may not have accomplished what the football staff would have liked, but for a few minutes of a difficult last couple of days, I think it helped our student-athletes and coaches think about something other than the tragedy that occurred. And I think Sam would have wanted that."
* For More on the Death of Sam Collins: www.huntingdon.edu/news/archive/2008/aug/08_16_08_statement; www.huntingdon.edu/news/archive/2008/aug/08_15_08_collins
HUNTINGDON is posting daily football reports.
http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/athletic_news
I watched Huntingdon vs Sewanee scrimmage today
Huntingdon might b a little faster than last season, lost some key O line and D line folks and had to replace thier QB...but... still... looked pretty good
this will b an interesting season.... and will b tested by Murrville in 2 wks
the team is leaving early to travel to Sam Collins Funeral in Flomaton, Al in the early AM
keep the faith
Yesterday, the SLIAC conference coaches voted for the pre-season coaches poll here are the results......
1.Huntingdon (6 first place votes)
2. Greenville (2 first place votes)
3. Westminster
4. LaGrange
5. Blackburn
6. Eureka
7. MacMurray
8. Principia
There is more information on it on the SLIAC website...
http://www.sliac.org
GC fan
respectfully.... i donot thank the coaches or players at Huntingdon r letting the preseason ranking go to thier head.... this is a new conference... Huntingdon has only played 2 of these teams before (LaGrange & Westminister)...so i am unsure what the preseason ranking means ...except a guess....
as u no....the only ranking that has any meaning will b available in mid november
it will b a good season...we all hope...and we hope the SLIAC teams beat all the non SLIAC opponents (we have Hamden-sydney-2007 ODAC Champ, Murrville - 7-3 in 2007, and Faulkner - NAIA- to contned with in that category
good luck to all, everyone stay healthy and injury free, and keep the faith
Yep, also on our Notables page where I posted it yesterday.
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2008/08/23/Huntingdon+picked+as+SLIAC+champ
The Highlanders had about 51 dressed for the scrimmage and looked pretty good. Couple of hard running backs and a couple of big receivers. QB's need to step it up.
The Greenville roster has been posted on their website. It is not accurate in that some of the guys don't have a # yet, however I did count and there are 89 players listed.
Does ANYONE know if the winner of the conference get an automatic bid to the NCAA playoffs?
Quote from: Alfredeneumann on August 26, 2008, 09:46:17 AM
Does ANYONE know if the winner of the conference get an automatic bid to the NCAA playoffs?
Not until 2010. We are still Pool B until then.
Go Hawks!!
Quote from: mac1991 on August 23, 2008, 11:10:36 PM
The Highlanders had about 51 dressed for the scrimmage and looked pretty good. Couple of hard running backs and a couple of big receivers. QB's need to step it up.
can I get an old school... "lets go mac!!" in there?? You guys that were in the last conference's postings back in the early 2000's will know what I mean...
Greenville news-- Football Field unplayable!!
GC Football Season Opener Moved to Washington-St. Louis - 8/22/08
GREENVILLE, Ill. - Due to the unplayable status of the Greenville College football field, the season opening game against Washington - St. Louis has changed venues. The game will now be played at Francis Field on the campus of Washington - St. Louis at 1 p.m. on Saturday, Sept. 6.
Unexpected issues created by summer improvements have resulted in an overall playing condition that is unacceptable at this time. Plans are in place to improve the playability of the field in order to host a game on Saturday, Sept. 27, against Blackburn College at 1 p.m.
Timewilltell
do u thank(or have u heard) if the field will b ready by Oct 4 ?
and ...if not.... how far from yalls campus is the alternate site
thanks
keep the faith
ITS AN A.E.V. Week Highlanders. GET IT DONE
AF4 - I talked with the Greenville SID on the phone the other day. He said that in installing a sprinkler system on the gamefield, part of the grass was killed as it was watered too much. It should be ready for the game on the 4th.
If not, an alternate field is a good question. The Greenville High School field is under construction. They are having to play the majority of their games on the road.
The field for the Greenville game on the 6th of September is in St. Louis, about 45 min away from Greenville, and it is Washington U's home field, so probably would not be considered as an alternate if needed for the 4th of October.
thanks
if the boy makes the travel team we will (Lord wlling) see yall
keep the faith...and have a great season
Huntingdon radio broadcast info:
The Hawks will now be heard on WIQR 1410 AM, while all contests, home and away, will also be available on the internet at http://hearitlive.huntingdon.edu. Doug Singleton will handle play-by-play duties, with Bobby Spaeth providing color commentary. Danny Rye and Ryan Long will also assist with broadcasts during the season.
In addition to games, head coach Mike Turk and Tim Lutz will host "Hawk Talk" every Wednesday, beginning on Sept. 3, at 7 p.m., on WMSP 740 AM. Fans will be able to call-in with questions and comments for Coach Turk about the upcoming opponent or the previous contest. The weekly call-show will also be available on the internet at http://hearitlive.huntingdon.edu.
Huntingdon football web-site
http://football.huntingdon.edu/
GO HAWKS!!!
well...we will see tomorrow...... rebuilt 0 line.... new qb...mostly new D line...
same backers and db's
i usually do pushups when we score..... i'm old and fat....but hope to do a bunch of pushups tomorrow
keep the faith
Whats everybodys picks for Saturday???
Huntingdon over murrville
24-21..... overtime ;)......i hope
keep the faith
Greenville over Washington U. 24-20 QB Dom Keagle too much for Wash U to handle.
Big win for Huntingdon today, 41-35 over Maryville. Other than too many penalties and too many cramps I thought we looked real good for an opener against a big rival. Offense had a good day with QB Ridgeway having a really good game with 5 TD passes, 1 rushing TD, 0 interceptions and completions to 10 different receivers. Defense was shaky at times giving up too many big plays but we played alot of people on that side of the ball so our depth is going to be really good there. I think the defense will be okay when we work some of the kinks out. Overall a good, fun day but it sure was hot out there.
Congrats to LaGrange getting their first win. Way to beat BSC, guys.
Good luck everyone next week. Let's all go out and get some wins for the conference.
Go Hawks!!!
Timewilltell
I think you got the wrong score. The Wash.U web site reports a 22-0 Wash U. Victory, They limited Grennvile to 115 yards Offense, per their web site. Check out their web site or the D3football scoreboard.
Old 40
If you notice timewilltell's post was from Friday and was a prediction. ::)
Wash U. 22
Greenville Panthers 0
Wash U's defense too much today for the Panthers! QB Dom Kegel was scrambling in the wrong directions all day and short pass plays did nothing. Greenville needs to be more than one dimensional than in the past and need to find some running back strength and open field speedsters to add to their offense. Yards after catches were nill. The Panthers defense looked pretty decent today with only giving up two TD's. The first TD for Wash U was on the opening kickoff. I am sure the Panthers staff will view tapes and correct real soon. Wash U has a solid football team and should have a good year.
Hawks 88
Great to see u today.... will nee to fix that D (i got a feeling they r on it now)
Ridge spead the ball around... line looked good
as all will no soon .....this is a new D set than we had the last 5 yrs.... so the kids will figure out how to put pressure on and the lbs wil figure how to cover the hooks and slants...
murrvill is really a good tem.... they might b better than us...but not today
i am glad we ain't got to play them again... every time we would get a cushion...they would rar back
good luck to all ....way to go lagrange
keep the faith....and GO HAWKS
Big "in-region" win for Huntingdon as they contend for a Pool B bid.
Congratulations to LaGrange! That is a solid win for the program for your first. :)
By the way, the QB-Hunt(19-32,2 ints, 326 yds, 3 TD's) and WR-Idlette(8 catches, 153 yds, 2 TD's) for Maryville are both freshmen. I don't look forward to having to deal with those two for three more years. The USAC will have to look out for these guys down the line.
Go Hawks!!!
I know Eureka had that tough loss but is it possible for them to win 6 games in the conference????
Huntingdon's Ridgeway SLIAC O player of week
http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/athletics_news/sept_08/09_08_08_fb
Huntingdon has it's work cut out this week against NAIA Faulkner university (the Annual 'Capitol city Show Down' at the cramton bowl, sat night, Montgomery, Alabama)
Faulkner got pummelled this past sat night in b'ham by D-1FCS, SoCon member, Samford University...we beat the last yr...so.. they will b ready wanting to punish some one... they had a lot of speed last yr....hopefully we can hang with them and come out on top
again...WAY TO GO La Grange....good luck to all SLIAC teams this week
keep the faith
What are the predictions for this weeks games??
Greenville goes on the road again this week to Agustana. For another tough game.
Sounds like there may be no home games this year at Greenville college.
Prediction-
Augustana - 31
Greenville- 20
Huntingdon beats Faulkner, 21-7.
Ralph
much more Faulkner team than last yr... as much speed as we will see all season...probably
they held us...drove it down the field..methodically...then fumbled into the end zone
we took control from there on with a hardnosed running and passing...both from the spread
O line was awesome
the Hawks gotta get redy for league play in 2 wks
Go Hawks and keep the faith
Yes, a very good game by Huntingdon. 14-0 lead at half with a couple of chances to put it away in the 3rd and early 4th quarter but with penalties to kill drives and a missed field goal. Let Faulkner stay in it long enough to cut it to 14-7 with about 5 minutes left then Jamal Gardner busts loose for 70 yds on the second play after that to finally pretty much end it. Nice night for Gardner with 156 yds on 21 carries and two TD's.
Huge crowd in Cramton Bowl tonight. Box score says attendance was 3600? I don't think that's close to right. Had to be at least 5 or 6,000.
Congrats to fellow SLIAC members Blackburn and Eureka for also getting wins today.
Go Hawks!!
Mac played pretty well yesterday, only losing by 12 to Aurora 30-18. They have made a huge jump already from last years team. Keep workin hard Mac, you'll get that win.
Eureka looked good in the mud, beating Concordia (Chicago) 28-8.
We had about 5" of rain since Wednesday and it rained through most of the game. Eureka seemed to handle it pretty well while Concordia struggled. It was a bad sign for Concordia when on the opening kickoff their return man tried to back peddle to the ball, slipped and fell flat on his back
Maybe having field turf to practice and play on is a disadvantage when you have to play in a mud bowl.
Eureka's defense played tough all day while the offense rolled up 304 yards rushing against Concordia's 138 rushing yards.
Congrats to Huntingdon's Mike Payson for being named SLIAC Defensive Player of the Week and Eureka's Nick Lindsey as the SLIAC Offensive Player of the Week.
http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football
Go Hawks!!
Okay Hawks88 or AF4,
As mentioned in Jaosn Bowen's this week's Around the South column (http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/south/2008/Huntingdon+puts+SLIAC+in+playoff+contention) this week, how far is the Victory Tree at Huntingdon from Toomer's Corner (http://www.auburnimages.com/gallery/5521601_jWB3n#371691475_Rim5u) in Auburn? :D
Ralph
54.7 miles between Toomers Corner and East Fairview.... i thank.... but i know that Hawks88 can be more accurate than me
the boy (son)who has thrown tolet paper at both places called me ......after we had gotten home from the game...and said" dad there is no place i'd rather be"...than on east fairview
on the web site http://football.huntingdon.edu/ u can see Coach Turk throwing tolet paper
keep the faith
According Microsoft Streets & Trips it's 54.1 miles.
Summary: 54.1 miles (52 minutes)
9:00 AM 0.0 Depart 1314 E Fairview Ave, Montgomery, AL 36106 on E Fairview Ave (East) 0.3 mi
9:00 AM 0.3 Turn LEFT (North) onto Narrow Lane Rd 0.4 mi
9:01 AM 0.7 Turn LEFT (West) onto Carter Hill Rd, then immediately turn RIGHT (North) onto Mulberry St 0.5 mi
9:04 AM 1.2 Take Ramp (RIGHT) onto I-85 [Martin Luther King Expy] 48.8 mi I-85
9:45 AM 50.1 At exit 51, turn RIGHT onto Ramp 0.2 mi US-29 / Auburn
9:46 AM 50.3 Bear LEFT (North) onto US-29 [SR-15] 0.1 mi
9:46 AM 50.4 Road name changes to SR-147 [S College St] 3.7 mi
9:52 AM 54.1 Arrive 106 S College St, Auburn University, AL 36849
SUMMARY
Driving distance: 54.1 miles
Trip duration: 52 minutes
Driving time: 52 minutes
Hawks88
i new u could
Lord willing we will see u next wk
keep the faith
This Saturday St. Scholastica begins its efforts in NCAA Div III football under the able leadership of head coach Greg Carlson. Their opponent is Wisconsin Lutheran. While I do not wish the WL's any ill, I wish the best for St. Scholatica and Greg in their first outing. Go St. Scholastica and remember the tradition Greg brings: Wabash Always Fights !!!
just starting 3rd quarter.....Greenville 22 - Rose Hulman 8
Great win for LaGrange, 38-14 over Murvul!
final from Terra Haute, IN....Greenville 25, Rose-Hulman 15
Wanted to give a quick Congrats to MacMurray College and Head Coach Kyle Sweeney. MacMurray beat Haskell on Saturday 44-26. Coach Sweeney has this program on the right path and got into the win column on Saturday. Congrats to the Highlanders.
Lawrence World-Journal on the Haskell-MacMurray game. (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/sep/21/haskell_puts_big_numbers_still_loses/)
St. Scholastica, despite a valiant 2nd half comeback, fell short, 36-29.
Go MacMurray! We're so proud of the hard work and time you invested to beat your losing streak. Keep playing like the champions you are!
Conference play starts now....should be interesting. BIG game in alabama this weekend....
Great win Mac!
Nice win on the road for Greenville this week. They beat a very good Rose -Hulman team at their place. The Conf. schedule starts now, so tighten up the chin straps and lest's roll!!!!
Should be decision todya on Greenville's field. Heard it is coming around and could play this weeks game there.
Any Westminster fans here?
I'll be there early Saturday to do a little tailgating and cheer on the Red Devils. I'm hoping for good weather and an even better game to start the conference schedule.
per the SLIAC website: There has been some schedule changes for this week...Sept. 27 LaGrange will play at Blackburn (noon) and Principia will play at Greenville (1 pm); Oct. 25 LaGrange will play at Principia (noon) and Blackburn will play at Greenville (1 pm)
It had originally been.....LaGrange at Principia and Blackburn at Greenville
Watch out Division III, there's a new team on the horizon! This is a brand new program (this is just their third year), and they are already making some noise.
They have great coaching and players who started out the program who haven't won a game in two years.
This year they are 2-1 and should be 3-0 if it weren't for a bad officiating call during their second game.
They just whipped the pants off Maryville (no matter how many excuses the coacg makes, he was pathetic!), and the boys are ready.
Remember LaGrange College out of Georgia!
Coach Ken Pickens
we at Huntingdn will not forget...u do not have to worry....
our JV played yall's JV on 9/14, and will play them again 10/19
and our varsity will travel to La Grange for a day game on 11/15... unlike last yrs night game..... so... not to worry......no one at Huntingdon has forgotten our nearest league rival just up I-85, accross the Chattahoochee
hopefully we will both win the rest of our games until then
keep the faith
Quote from: Ken Pickens on September 22, 2008, 08:13:03 PM
Watch out Division III, there's a new team on the horizon! This is a brand new program (this is just their third year), and they are already making some noise.
They have great coaching and players who started out the program who haven't won a game in two years.
This year they are 2-1 and should be 3-0 if it weren't for a bad officiating call during their second game.
They just whipped the pants off Maryville (no matter how many excuses the coach makes, he was pathetic!), and the boys are ready.
Remember LaGrange College out of Georgia!
Coach Ken Pickens
Welcome, Coach Pickens.
We, in the ASC, have seen what a new program should be in a short time as it steps onto the scene.
If LaGrange is that good, then the Panthers will be playing in the Stagg Bowl in 2012.
Just had an opportunity to look at the box scores of Mac's two losses and see a HUGE improvement in this year's squad. Tied at the half against Beloit, ahead at the half against Aurora and "handled the trip" (Iron Mike Hensley saying) this past weekend picking up the win. Keep fighting and improving every week, it will only get better as the year rolls on.
Good luck against Huntingdon this weekend, they look like they have a great squad!
Mac_5_Seven
Around the South (http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/south/2008/Injury+hits+another+ASC+contender) talks about the SLIAC race.
Huntingdon at LaGrange may be for the conference championship!
that might be pushing it!!
Hester23
What might b pushing it ?
keep the faith
Huntingdon at LaGrange may be for the conference championship!
I think that there are some sleeper teams that are really going to suprise people this year.
As far as the Conf. Championship, I don't think you want top look past next weeks match-up of Huntingdon AT Greenville. But let's get through this week first.
I like our chances but, yes, there is a lot of football to be played and lots can happen between now and then. It will be interesting to see what those three bus rides to IL/MO in four weeks will do to a team. We have the first conference home game to worry about first though. Hopefully we can start conference play off on the right foot.
I see where Coach Turk is letting all 132 players dress for the game tomorrow. That should make for a pretty crowded sideline.
Go Hawks!!
Any predictions for the week?
Here are mine:
Huntingdon over MacMurray...by 2 tds
Greenville over Principia...by a lot
Blackburn over LaGrange...very close
Westminster over Eureka....another close one
Quote from: footballguy72 on September 26, 2008, 03:08:06 PM
Any predictions for the week?
Here are mine:
Huntingdon over MacMurray...by 2 tds
Greenville over Principia...by a lot
Blackburn over LaGrange...very close
Westminster over Eureka....another close one
Agree with the first two, disagree on the last two. I think LaGrange and Eureka win.
we agree...it might b Huntingdon Vs Lagrange for the title...or not
i do not believe the team and coaches can see that far yet
Huntingdon has got to get past MacMurray this weekend...Greenville will be a tough contest...but MacMurray first
the boy said that.... on film.... MacMurray looks to b a bigger than the kids from Montgomery....but who isn't or hasn't been bigger?
i agree with my man (Hawks88) ..as i too like our chances...but 1 wk at a time
i also like LaGranges chances this wk end
keep the faith
SPALDING UNIVERSITY JOINS THE SLIAC (http://www.sliac.org/headlines/2008-09/spalding_092408.htm). Located in Louisville, KY. They don't have football and the article doesn't mention plans to add it but it's nice to speculate.
AF4,
According to the game notes on HC's web site, they are bigger but, as you note, that ain't unusual. Hopefully we will be faster than them.
Be safe and see you tomorrow. I don't think we are doing wings this week but stop by and have a burger or a brat with us.
Go Hawks!!
My prediction? The Highlander-Hawk stand-off will end with a MacMurray win. However, I do think the game will be competitive and I wish I could be there!!! Someone eat a brat for me!
Safe travels and play for everyone... Go Mac!
Hawk88
Yall b safe traveling...Lord willing we will see u... the boy is out a while with an injury... but will be standing around
and i agree... the sliac is about to see the speed of southern football....even at D-3
macladyfan.... we will eat a burger in your honor...welcome here
wish u could come to montgomery.
have a great weekend
and Go Hawks...Hawk 'em... fly around the ball
keep the faith
at the end of the 1st quarter Greenville 13, Principia 0
at the half......Greenville 33, Principia 0
at the end of the 3rd quarter....Greenville 59, Principia 0
Huntingdon-MacMurray was 35-0 at half time (with pretty good amount of Huntngdon subs, particularly on defense)
the starting offence only played the first half... but were ON today... they were a machine... i have never seen a Huntingdon team so right offensively
final was 48 (49?)-21... and i think all 135 players who dressed got to play
safe travels to MacMurray's players and fans heading back home
also LaGrange put it on Blagburn...61-0 (i thank)
they r gonna b real tough...hope we r up for the task
good luck the rest of the season
keep the faith
Final from Greenville......Greenville 59, Principia 0
Greenville had over 500 yards of total offense, while Principia was below 100
Greenville used almost all reserves for almost the entire 2nd half and so the offense was spread around to lots of guys.
big game coming up in a week when Huntingdon comes to town
congrtulations to Greenville
i agree... next week is a big game
i pray Greenville and Huntingdon's teams will both b healthy
i gotta work ..so will b unable to make the trip
keep the faith
Solid showing by Huntingdon and LaGrange!
I know that it is gratifying for them. Those bus trips to St Louis should be a thing of anticipation this season.
Huntingdon College opened conference play in impressive fashion Saturday, setting a school record with 565 yards of total offense as it defeated MacMurray College, 49-20, at Samford Stadium.
http://huntingdon.edu/athletics/athletics_news/sept_08/09_27_08_fb
Someone mailed me a HC football media guide this week. What a well done book. :) :) :)
What kind of offense and defense is Greenville running this year?
Greenville runs a spread offense and 3-4 Defense
Congrats to Westminster's QB Daniel Eidson chosen as the SLIAC offensive and special teams player of the week.
Eureka could move the ball and score on Westminster but couldn't stop their passing game.
http://www.sliac.org/headlines/2008-09/pow_092908.htm
Huntingdon scores on a 45 yd pass on opening possession. 7-0
Hawks with another drive. Jamal Gardner on a short run makes it 14-0 with 2:54 left in 1st.
Miguel Gilmore on a screens pass from about the 15. 21-0 Hawks, early 2nd qtr.
Gardner from the one. 3:44 left in 2nd qtr. 28-0 Hawks.
Kegel 15 yd pass for Greenville. 28-6 Hawks with :53 left in half.
Kegel 8 yd run. 3:35 left in 3rd. 28-12 Huntingdon.
hawks, Keep the scores coming!
LaGrange is winning, too.
Hawks miss a short field goal. Still 28-12 early 4th qtr.
HC misses another FG. Having trouble putting this one away. Still 28-12 with 6:48 left.
HC intercepts with GC out of timeouts with 3:05 left. Hopefully we can run it out now.
Final score, Huntingdon 28 Greenville 12.
For most of the first two quarters our offense moved the ball pretty much at will and when we went up 28-0 it looked like we were on our way to an easy win. Greenville could have packed it in at that point but to their credit they kept fighting and did a good job of slowing our offense down the rest of the way. I think we did a good job of controlling their option. QB Kegel gave our D fits with the passing game all day but we made enough plays to keep their score down while our offense was struggling.
All in all a good win on the road. After a long ride home the Hawks will make the trip again next week to Eureka.
Go Hawks!!
Hawks88
brother.... i am glad The Hawks don't have to see Kegel again...... he is an awesome athlete
we had a tough time with a pass rush today.... i believe that is somthing Coach Hix, Mills, and Ansley are working on as we speak, and will fix
keep the faith
It was a good game. Both teams played very well in one half each, Huntindon in the first and Greenville in the second. I think if Greenville recievers had even a little bit better of a game its a much different game.
footballguy72
u r on the money... if they had held on to a few more passes... if there were a few better snaps to yalls QB...uh...i don't want to thank about it
yall got a good ball club...man u really shut us down in the second half
yall got LaGrange next week...they r on a roll...good luck
hope yall win the rest of yalls games
keep the faith
The hawks are a great team and they travel to eureka this year... Eureka plays at home and they usually play alot better when they are at home...The game against westminster, taking nothing from them, but eureka was without 5 starters including argueably the best defensive player that they have in the sophomore cornerback that was suspended.. the offense is still a work in progress, the hawks could possibly be in trouble this week
humblepie
the Hawks will not take this game lightly...trust me... one at a time
the boy says the team and coaches are looking forward to the visit, seeing the Reagan museum, a piece of the 'Wall', having a good ball game against a good-well coached team, a box chicken dinner, and a ride home... we will see
good luck... and...keep the faith
(by the way...is your moniker/name any association with the 60-70's rock group which featured peter frampton ?)
might be a real good game...this wk as Huntingdon had the offensive player of the wk (his second time around)
Sep 29-Oct 5 Justin Ridgeway Huntingdon Jr Frisco City, Ala./Excel
Huntingdon College's Justin Ridgeway, a junior from Frisco City, Ala. (Excel), has been named the SLIAC Football Offensive Player of the Week for the week of September 29-October 5. This marks the second time this season that he has earned the honor.
Ridgeway, a 6-3 quarterback, threw for a career-high 281 yards, while matching a career-best 66 rushing yards. He tossed a pair of touchdown passes, while completing 18-of-29 passes, good for a completion percentage of .621. Ridgeway also helped the Hawks remain undefeated at 4-0 overall and 2-0 in the SLIAC with the 28-12 win on the road at Greenville.
and Eureka had the Defensive player of the wk (and was w/o several key players ....?)
Eureka College's Matt Knake, a junior from Freeburg, Ill., has been named the SLIAC Football Defensive Player of the Week for the week of September 29-October 5.
Knake, a 5-11 linebacker, recorded eight solo tackles, six assisted tackles and had 3.5 tackles for a loss of seven yards in a 26-13 victory on the road at Blackburn. He had a game-high in tackles and tackles for loss, while also recovering one of three fumbles on the day for Eureka.
this will b a good one, and Huntingdon must bring thier 'A' game
keep the faith
Eureka had all of its players this week against blackburn, but they were down 5 starters against westminster. This will be a good game, hopefully eureka comes to play and is ready to take care of business
haha no the name has nothing to do with the group. Its just something that more athletes ought to have nowadays and good luck to the hawks. It should be one heck of a game
It's going to be a tough one for Eureka when Huntingdon comes to town this weekend.
Looking at the SLIAC team stats Huntingdon is at or near the top in nearly every category. Eureka will need a complete effort from everyone who steps on the field, players and coaches.
Can they do it? I think so but they can't afford any mistakes.
Note to the hawks, ever since i can remember the red devils always play hard at home. hopefully the speed of eureka's defense can slow down that running attack... i cant wait for this game should be a good one
Best of luck to both teams
it should b a good game... the Hawk defense is ...uh...well... not slow
the Eureka faithful appear to be good fans... this league is what Huntingdon has been looking for... good competition
i really thought the scac was going to include us, but they elected not to... the suggestion was that they wanted only sister colleges..with similar endowments...etc... so we were exculded... but then they let in Oglethorpe ( a former member ..with Huntingdon of the non football playing GSAC)...and if u examine thier school (a fine institution, similar to Huntingdon....but less endowment...) that pretty much blew that arguement out of the water :-\
another potential theory for not letting Huntingdon into the SCAC was the suggestion that in the first now 6 yrs of football , the Hawks have gone 9-3 against SCAC football teams... but i am sure that one held no validity ;D
although i can not speak for anyone but myself... i am appreciative that SLIAC let us in when it re-formed for football...... Greenviile is and a good team... they held Huntingdon the second half...and the Hawks could barely hold them.... no doubt Eureka is a good team... all u have to do is read about the Blackburn game...a great defense
Westminister and LaGrange will also b real, real tough... anytime u drop your guard or become overconfident teams like Principia or Blackburn will sneak up and beat you..... this is a good group, a fine conference
... in 2010...one of theses teams will b able to compete in the playoffs..... if not sooner... like the boy told me last week... 'no place we would rather b'
good luck to all, keep the faith, and Go Hawks
Quote from: AF4 on October 07, 2008, 08:43:03 PM
i really thought the scac was going to include us, but they elected not to... the suggestion was that they wanted only sister colleges..with similar endowments...etc... so we were exculded... but then they let in Oglethorpe ( a former member ..with Huntingdon of the non football playing GSAC)...and if u examine thier school (a fine institution, similar to Huntingdon....but less endowment...) that pretty much blew that arguement out of the water :-\
Except Oglethorpe has been in the league for decades. If they were trying to get in now I don't think they would get in either.
pat coleman guru-hero
you r almost correct...kinda... i would say Oglthorpe has been in the scac for decade...but i'd have to hold the 's' ... they joined the SCAC in 1991 ;)
minor point...but as usual ... your points are insightful and well taken
I doubt anyone at Huntington cares now.... as the GSAC (in all but football) and the SLIAC (football) both show us some love :)
LaGrange is a close play partner in both leagues...and Murrville is a member of the GSAC (in non football)
i still pull for the scac..and hope either Trinity or Millsaps (or both ?) can get into the playoffs and past the first round... (my older cousin- like an older brother- was cptain of the football team at Sewanee....unfortunatly he was lost in the 1967 Tet Offensive)
Huntingdon scrimmages Sewanee every yr (preseason...good for both and very friendly)..... unfortunatly Birmingham - Southern cancilled both J-V games with us for this yr....i believe thier reasons were ligit and due to numbers
keep the faith
17 years equals 1.7 decades equals more than one decade. :)
Wow . . . pretty dead in here. Does anybody have any thoughts on the big game between MLC and NWC this Saturday? I'm thinking it'll be a pretty high-scoring game with the way both offenses are playing so far?
I would initially think it wouldn't be a close game based upon recent history between Martin Luther and how Northwestern has been beating up better opponents thus far this season, but after the Crown game it has been proven that any game could be close until the final whistle in the UMAC this year. If Martin Luther is going to be successful, they're going to have to throw the ball effectively, and I don't see that happening.
pat...u r right...i am wrong...1.7 decades emphasis on the 's'
.... ..or 0.3 decades shy of 2 decades.... ;D
what can i say...i am a product of a rural georgia education :D
thanks..and keep the faith
Hawk win
first time in school history (1854....but football began 2003) the Hawks begin the second 1/2 of the season as 5-0
next wk Blackburn comes to Montgomery... congrats to them for beating Principia.... also congrats To LaGrange and Westminister for there wins today
good luck next wk to Eureka against Principia
go Hawks
Just got back to East Al from middle Il. Besides a couple of bee stings and an officiating crew that might have trouble with a junior high game, I think we got out of there pretty much unscathed.
Kudos to the Eureka concession stand on a really good pork chop sandwich by the way.
Fun trip over all but I am beat and ready for bed.
Go Hawks, take care of Blackburn for Homecoming next week.
Huntingdon played a great and respectful game. They actually didnt try to run up the score, it just happened. Eureka looked like they were scared out there playing against the hawks. If Eureka wants to be successful this year some changes have to happen asap
Quote from: humblepie on October 12, 2008, 02:47:53 PM
Huntingdon played a great and respectful game. They actually didnt try to run up the score, it just happened. Eureka looked like they were scared out there playing against the hawks. If Eureka wants to be successful this year some changes have to happen asap
I don't think Eureka was scared, they were just physically out matched. Huntingdon is a very athletic and well coached team. I'll be surprised if they lose a game this year.
Playing a team like that you have to keep the ball out of their hands as much as possible. Several times this year Eureka has gone for it on 4th and a few inches. Almost every time they call a pass play and it almost always fails. They have a couple of running backs who would give them a much better chance at getting the first down. Why not use them?
Just wondering though why Huntingdon brought their band and flag corp? A little unusual for D3 and travelling that far. They apparently have a much bigger budget than Euraka.
Quote from: Andras Bacia on October 12, 2008, 03:54:14 PM
Quote from: humblepie on October 12, 2008, 02:47:53 PM
Huntingdon played a great and respectful game. They actually didnt try to run up the score, it just happened. Eureka looked like they were scared out there playing against the hawks. If Eureka wants to be successful this year some changes have to happen asap
I don't think Eureka was scared, they were just physically out matched. Huntingdon is a very athletic and well coached team. I'll be surprised if they lose a game this year.
Playing a team like that you have to keep the ball out of their hands as much as possible. Several times this year Eureka has gone for it on 4th and a few inches. Almost every time they call a pass play and it almost always fails. They have a couple of running backs who would give them a much better chance at getting the first down. Why not use them?
Just wondering though why Huntingdon brought their band and flag corp? A little unusual for D3 and traveling that far. They apparently have a much bigger budget than Eureka.
I think that the college wanted the students to see the Reagan center.
Good call, AO. I thought MLC would be able to run the ball effectively on NW, but they just stacked the box and shut the run down. NW just simply outplayed MLC all over the field.
I thank that the prevailing thought at Huntingdon is that The Band is as much a part of the program as the Football team...and they wanted them to see the Reagan museum
there r good pics of the football team visiting the Reagan Museum
http://football.huntingdon.edu/ then click under reagan museum
as far as winning the rest of the games.... like the boy said today on the phone... "one week at a time, we can't get ahead of that"
they appear to b focused
next week at home against Blackburn
keep the faith
AF4, did you make it over to see the piece of the Berlin wall in the middle of the campus?
I know it's just a big hunk of reinforced concrete but that means more to me than the museum because of what it represents.
i had to work.... so i listened to the game...but Lord willing i will get to see it in 2 yrs (if not before)
it might b reinforced concrete.... but it does represent things that r harder and harder to explain...i was hoping to see it as much as the museum
they tell me it was a good trip, nice folks
good luck the rest of the season
keep the faith
Awwww, man!! I knew I forgot something. We were in the museum and I was about to bring up to the group that we needed to go find the piece of the wall but got distracted and didn't think again to bring it up.
Hawks88 <--- sitting here kicking himself. >:(
What's going on at Eureka? I just read on D3 that their head coach resigned. Thats a shock. I heard he had turned the corner with that program. Any details as were he is going? Who will be the permenant Head coach? Will they promote within or go outside. There are some good coaches out there with Head coaching experience that could really help that program, IMHO.
Yes the head coach of Eureka resigned. It may be a change for the better or for the worse. I think that the assistant head coach, which is now the interim head coach is a great coach, i think he worked at U of I for a little while, he may have even played for them. With that said, Eureka should try to win every game left on their schedule and get ready to to a 360 spin with that program
Good news for the SLIAC. Since the NCAA doesn't actually know which schools play d3 football there are now 3 Pool B births in the playoffs. Here is the article on d3football http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2008/10/15/pool-b-increased-to-three/
Hickorycornhuser
thanks for the heads up... neat..maybe one of our teams can make the playoffs this yr.....
we gotta tough row to hoe at Huntingdon Blackburn and at home, westminister on the road, Principia and Hampden-Sydney at home...and then LaGrange on the road
Hawks88
Brother hope yall have recuperated from the long trip.... Lord willing i'll see u saturday
The boys leg is nearly healed up...he might suit up on sat
keep the faith
Quote from: old 40 on October 14, 2008, 09:34:53 PM
What's going on at Eureka? I just read on D3 that their head coach resigned. Thats a shock. I heard he had turned the corner with that program. Any details as were he is going? Who will be the permenant Head coach? Will they promote within or go outside. There are some good coaches out there with Head coaching experience that could really help that program, IMHO.
http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x1385391010/Eureka-coach-resigns-for-personal-reasons
Quote from: AF4 on October 15, 2008, 02:12:14 PM
Hawks88
Brother hope yall have recuperated from the long trip.... Lord willing i'll see u saturday
The boys leg is nearly healed up...he might suit up on sat
keep the faith
AF4,
Glad to hear the boy is doing better. Will he play in the JV game Sunday at LaGrange? Shouldn't have any trouble getting to the game Saturday but not sure if I will get away in time for tailgating. I have some stuff to do at work early Sat but hopefully won't take TOO long.
Go Hawks!
Hawks88
brother... i am unsure how much they r gonna let him play... in either game... as he is still on the mend
thanks for asking
yall take care
keep the faith
Well just to put this pos up for just a little bit on a october date.
Quote from: stanbob on October 17, 2008, 01:50:30 AM
Well just to put this pos up for just a little bit on a october date.
GO SAINTS ;)
Couldn't get away from work in time to make it to Montgomery so listening to internet feed.
14:41 left in 1st Quarter. Reamer 25 yd run on reverse for TD. 7-0 Huntingdon.
Missed very beginning but it sounds like Blackburn received opening kickoff and fumbled on their first play from scrimmage.
Gardner from the one. 14-0 HC w/10:26 left in 1st Qtr.
Blackburn receiver fumbles kickoff out of bounds at the BC 1. Getting ugly quick.
Ridgeway to Laye 5 yd TD pass. 21-0 w/6:32 left in 1st.
HC 34 yd FG to start 2nd Qtr. 24-0
Another turnover on the kickoff.
29 yd TD pass Ridgeway to Manning. 31-0 early in 2nd Qtr.
Ganus from the 5. 38-0 w/5:02 left in 2nd
Getting back to the Eureka Coach "resigning." It is pretty well known that he was asked to step down by the college. There is a lot of speculation on why he got let go during the middle of the season. I do not believe it had much to do with his family issues. It is hard to say eureka was turning the corner with him when he inheritated a 3-7 team with a lot of talent coming back, and has compiled a record of 5-30, never beating a team that had won more than 2 games during their season. Having played for Coach Sullivan, he did work hard and he wanted the college to do well, but he has an arrogance that did not sit well with many players and more importantly coaching staff and faculty.
As for the Red Devils, Good luck today. Bring a big win home for your family while adversity stares you in the face!!!
p.s. Rumors of a former Red Devil, and D-3 legend waiting in the mist to take the helm!!!!!!
at the end of 1st quarter - Greenville 14, MacMurray 7
Anderson from the 1. 45-0 HC w/9:45 left in 3rd.
At the half from Jacksonville, IL.....Greenville 26, MacMurray 7
Final score, Huntingdon 45 - Blackburn 0
Sounded like a lot of people got to play for the Hawks.
Happy Birthday, Coach Turk!
Go Hawks!!
at the end of 3......Greenville 32, MacMurray 14
Hawks88
i thank every body and then some played (all 135 players)... started whole sale subbing in 2nd quarter
worked a bunch of folks into the game into different situations ( like combos of backs and O Line)
now Huntingdon has gots to get ready for a tough Westminister team
keep the faith
final from Jacksonville, IL.....Greenville 45, MacMurray 29
Greenville had a pretty ballanced day on offense, almost 500 yards, split pretty evenly between rushing and passing
Greenville is a real good football team
Huntingdon has to play another very good Westminister team next wk in Mo
Westminister took it to a Great LaGrange team losing 37-20 in LaGrange, Ga..... that means that they r tough
congrats to Eureka, Greenville and LaGrange for wins today
keep the faith
If HC can beat Westminster, then the LaGrange game is for the conference crown.
In Pool B, I think the undefeated (in South Region play) SLIAC team gets a Pool B bid.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2008, 11:17:37 PM
If HC can beat Westminster, then the LaGrange game is for the conference crown.
In Pool B, I think the undefeated (in South Region play) SLIAC team gets a Pool B bid.
bossman...there are a pile of folks in the Cloverdale section of Montgomery, Al that sure hope you are right
keep the faith
What, did the conference have a bye week?
Quote from: AF4 on October 18, 2008, 11:51:18 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2008, 11:17:37 PM
If HC can beat Westminster, then the LaGrange game is for the conference crown.
In Pool B, I think the undefeated (in South Region play) SLIAC team gets a Pool B bid.
bossman...there are a pile of folks in the Cloverdale section of Montgomery, Al that sure hope you are right
keep the faith
How much more toilet paper can the limbs of the Victory Tree hold? :D
Eureka put up 699 yrds of offense in the new head coaches first game. Congrats Coach keep up the good work.
Awesome Job Eureka
Hawkes88 and i watched the LaGrange Huntingdon JV game today, in LaGrange....typical jv from our side (probably thiers too) everyone played a bunch
the only difference it was a really good game, Lagrange scored a touchdown with about 6 seconds left to win 39 to 33..... Huntingdon won the first jv game several weeks ago 31-7..so this one suggest LaGrange is just a lot better or tougher at home this yr... r both
several of the LaGrange folks kept yelling (after the game) "we are gonna give u the same, right here, in 3 wks"
Hawkes88 looked at me...and said... "thats gonna b a problem, because the game is in 4 wks" ;D
i can't stop laughing :D
keep the faith
Quote from: Hester23 on October 19, 2008, 05:11:02 PM
Eureka put up 699 yrds of offense in the new head coaches first game. Congrats Coach keep up the good work.
Against Principia, no offense, that isn't
that much of a feat.
pat coleman
they just lost thier coach
be nice.... or we will refer to u as a yankee.... perhaps u r ?
Quote from: AF4 on October 19, 2008, 06:45:10 PM
several of the LaGrange folks kept yelling (after the game) "we are gonna give u the same, right here, in 3 wks"
Hawkes88 looked at me...and said... "thats gonna b a problem, because the game is in 4 wks" ;D
i can't stop laughing :D
keep the faith
Yeah, nice calendar reading skills over there :D
Interesting how in 7 previous meetings(2 varsity + 5 JV) they haven't been close to beating us and now with a last minute TD win they start popping off. We'll just file that one away for FOUR weeks since we have other big business to take care of first. I'll have to set a reminder for Nov. 9 to bring it back up.
Go Hawks!!
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 19, 2008, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Hester23 on October 19, 2008, 05:11:02 PM
Eureka put up 699 yrds of offense in the new head coaches first game. Congrats Coach keep up the good work.
Against Principia, no offense, that isn't that much of a feat.
A little unusual for a board Admin to jump in here with a put down isn't it?
Eureka is 2nd in the SLIAC team rushing stats behind Hundington, 2nd in total offense behind Hundington, and have played one less game. They have 3 players on the conference top ten rushers list, Ards, Lindsey and Rosenberger. Ards and Rosenberger are freshman.
The SLIAC leading rusher, Brandon Ards, has only played in 5 games. He is also 3rd in all-purpose yards.
Eureka has a number of freshman starters and several more who don't start but see significant playing time. I hope they all stick with it, they will only get better.
I realize we've got some tough games left on the schedule but I'm not going to discount what they've accomplished so far.
It's a reality check, just the facts.
Reality check? I have no illusions that Eureka is a top D3 football program. Except for a few years in the 90's they've had very few winning seasons. I do think they have ton of potential in some of the young players they have now. I hope they find the right head coach to develop the program and the kids.
So should Eureka have had 1000 yards offense at Principia? 1500 yards? 90 points?
Man, thats really classy of Mr. Coleman to take cheap shots at a team trying to fight through adversity. "It's a reality check"??? Did anyone, anywhere say anything that promoted Principia as an elite program? Eureka is a small school (500 or so), and have been playing schools twice, or even three times bigger than they are for years. Now they are competeing in a conference that has schools with comparable enrollments and facilities, and are hanging tough. O, but don't worry, Mr. Coleman will make sure and put them in their place, and not let them have anything to hang their hats on!
*Keep working hard red devils, and play your a**es off this week for homecoming and give alumns a reason to dig into their pockets for you!
hay
i have met pat coleman...he is a good guy... i suspect he was just jesting
i believe yall will turn the corner...u have a rich tradition...
yall keep the faith... Eureka will get better
Deep breath, folks. Didn't mean to spoil your backslapping.
I just think that you know that it's hard to learn anything about your team from a game against Principia. It's not a matter of how many yards or points they should've had -- it's just that you can't draw many conclusions from it.
way to go bubba's for SLIAC 'D' player of wk to Eurekas Tim Dombrowski Eureka Sr Lansing, Ill./T.F. South
Eureka College's Tim Dombrowski, a senior from Lansing, Ill. (T.F. South), has been named the SLIAC Football Defensive Player of the Week for the week of October 13-19.
Dombrowski, a 5-6 linebacker, recorded seven solo tackles, two assisted tackles and had 3.5 tackles for a loss of 23 yards in the Red Devils 47-19 win on the road at Principia College. He also recorded one sack for a loss of eight yards. Dombrowski set a career-high in tackles for loss and helped his team to a total of 18 tackles for loss, eight sacks and four forced turnovers.
and to 'O" player of the wk LaGrange's Colt Shope LaGrange Jr Easley, S.C./Easley
LaGrange College's Colt Shope, a junior from Easley, S.C., has been named the SLIAC Football Offensive Player of the Week for the week of October 13-19.
Shope, a 5-9 wide receiver, had a career-high 131 yards rushing and a career-high 87 yards receiving in the Panthers 37-20 victory versus Westminster College (Mo.). He averaged 21.8 yards on six rushing attempts, including a long rush of 63 yards, and had one touchdown. Shope also set school records for longest pass reception (77 yards) and yards per reception (29.0 yards). His 77-yard reception also resulted in a touchdown.
way to go guy's... both fella's UNDER 6'0.... us vertically challenged fellers r clapping for u
keep the faith
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 20, 2008, 08:32:39 AM
Quote from: AF4 on October 19, 2008, 06:45:10 PM
several of the LaGrange folks kept yelling (after the game) "we are gonna give u the same, right here, in 3 wks"
Hawkes88 looked at me...and said... "thats gonna b a problem, because the game is in 4 wks" ;D
i can't stop laughing :D
keep the faith
Yeah, nice calendar reading skills over there :D
Interesting how in 7 previous meetings(2 varsity + 5 JV) they haven't been close to beating us and now with a last minute TD win they start popping off. We'll just file that one away for FOUR weeks since we have other big business to take care of first. I'll have to set a reminder for Nov. 9 to bring it back up.
Go Hawks!!
Is it necessary to besmirch the character of an entire team on the basis of what someone says he heard "a few" people say at a JV game?
I don't hold it against Huntigdon or anyone else for the rude behavior of a few Huntindon fans a couple years ago in LaGrange's very first year.
Let's focus on football.
Come on guys, it should be a very good game.
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 21, 2008, 12:33:17 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 20, 2008, 08:32:39 AM
Quote from: AF4 on October 19, 2008, 06:45:10 PM
several of the LaGrange folks kept yelling (after the game) "we are gonna give u the same, right here, in 3 wks"
Hawkes88 looked at me...and said... "thats gonna b a problem, because the game is in 4 wks" ;D
i can't stop laughing :D
keep the faith
Yeah, nice calendar reading skills over there :D
Interesting how in 7 previous meetings(2 varsity + 5 JV) they haven't been close to beating us and now with a last minute TD win they start popping off. We'll just file that one away for FOUR weeks since we have other big business to take care of first. I'll have to set a reminder for Nov. 9 to bring it back up.
Go Hawks!!
Is it necessary to besmirch the character of an entire team on the basis of what someone says he heard "a few" people say at a JV game?
I don't hold it against Huntigdon or anyone else for the rude behavior of a few Huntindon fans a couple years ago in LaGrange's very first year.
Let's focus on football.
Come on guys, it should be a very good game.
I'm not sure that what I posted really besmirched an entire team, but if it did, I apologize. I was just poking fun at "the few" who mis-spoke about how many weeks there were until the game.This also wasn't something that "someone says they heard", this was what myself and AF4 heard with our own ears at the game and yes it was a JV game, but the people yelling were obviously talking about what was going to happen at the varsity game.
By the way, if you want to get on someone about being respectful, you might want to take the time to spell the name of their school correctly.
And, yes, as far as the football goes, we do expect this to be a very good game. LaGrange's program has made a lot of progress and I am looking forward to seeing how we match up this year.
We'll talk more about that in four weeks though. Like I said before, we got plenty of business to take care of before then.
Catch you later.
Go Hawks!
Hawks88 ..i did not think u meant to besmirch the good name of LaGrange college... oh... uh....forgottenman...it is spelled Huntingdon...not Huntigdon or Huntindon ;D
the game in 4 wks will have playoff implications...
the JV game was a real good ball game...yall pulled it out at the in...very good play calling
and re read all of Hawks88 and my posts...i think we give yall props all the time >:(
keep the faith...and we will avoid the 'besmirching' stuff :D
Thanks for the spell check. ::)
Looking forward to the Huntingdon -- LaGrange contest.
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 21, 2008, 05:37:18 PM
Thanks for the spell check. ::)
Looking forward to the Huntingdon -- LaGrange contest.
Brother...we r too..it wil b a good game...great chance who ever wins will get a bid to the playoffs...not automatic ( i thank yall have a better chance of going than we...if yall win...unless we win the rest
it looks to be a great match..all the way around... i beleve it will b decided by less than a toughdown...but it is in yalls house ???
not only a tough game this week...but Hampden-Sydney
if yall beat us...yall will b 9-0 (to the comittee). and i thank would get u into the pool B
if we beat yall but lose to Hampden-Sydney (who r undefeated and ranked in to 25) we will b 8-1 to the comittee...
i do not believe the lose yall had to Shorter and the win we had at Faulkner figure in...
so...i thank we might have to win all 4 to get in.... which the team and coaches want....but...is tough
Ralph Turnerand/ or Hawks88 would have a better handle on this than me
keep the faith
Forgotten Man -- I think you're the only LaGrange fan on the board. Welcome!
(We had one earlier but he didn't get any takers for his LaGrange-to-the-Stagg-Bowl talk and I don't think we've seen him since.)
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2008, 09:40:26 PM
Forgotten Man -- I think you're the only LaGrange fan on the board. Welcome!
Thanks. My son is a junior on the team and it has been quite a ride watching them start out as a bunch of raw freshmen two seasons ago to a team that is fairly competitive this year.
I think the rivalry with Huntingdon will continue to grow and hope it develops along the line of Army--Navy;
i.e., fierce on the field but still respectful and friendly.
Over these past few years (including the recruiting process) I have come to really appreciate DIII football. It's great to watch a bunch of young men devote themselves to a game they play only for the love of it.
Good morning!
The NAIA games are way down in the secondary criteria and probably won't be used, just my guess.
Welcome Forgotten Man. That LaGrange campus is beautiful. The baseball field is especially nice.
I like the bandbox feel of the Mariotti Gym...a great place for the hometown crowd!
I am very happy with how well football has taken off at HC and LaGrange. Your joining the SLIAC was the boost that both programs needed!
Here is the link to a Google map I created of the football school locations in SLIAC:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=109667184306561314872.000456783ec9566c1bbd8
And here is one I found with all D3 football schools:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=100650448045177027385.000456158e87106fbc30e
Great work
i am unsure we will be like army-navy...perhaps Auburn/UGA
they eat the snot out of each other...but it is usually a friendly game (u no they played it in columbus yrly..a while ago)
we being 2 of 3 D-3 teams between AL/GA..and both being in both SLIAC and GSAC
i thought the boy (my son..soph) would go to LaGrange..as it is closer (by 5 miles) to our home/farm than Huntingdon...we live just accross the hooch in Chambers Co , Al... but he picked differently
i was raised near austell, ga... but the ATL got paved...so we moved ~19 yrs ago just after the boy was born.... most of my family still lives off the Dallas hiway
see yall in 4 wks...unfortunatly we got the toughest part of our season still to go
keep the faith
Hey Forgotten Man, we'll be at LaGrange on the 1st to cheer on EC. Looking forward to the trip and the game.
We plan on hanging around for a few days and checking out West Point lake.
Any other must see tourist traps we should visit?
The Google map was a great idea.
Quote from: Andras Bacia on October 23, 2008, 01:02:53 AM
Hey Forgotten Man, we'll be at LaGrange on the 1st to cheer on EC. Looking forward to the trip and the game.
We plan on hanging around for a few days and checking out West Point lake.
Any other must see tourist traps we should visit?
The Google map was a great idea.
Go to FDR's retreat at Warm Springs, GA!
I also recommend the Civil Right Museum in Montgomery next year.
Quote from: Andras Bacia on October 23, 2008, 01:02:53 AM
Hey Forgotten Man, we'll be at LaGrange on the 1st to cheer on EC. Looking forward to the trip and the game.
We plan on hanging around for a few days and checking out West Point lake.
Any other must see tourist traps we should visit?
The Google map was a great idea.
Callaway Gardens is really nice and near LaGrange. http://www.callawaygardens.com/
If you feel like venturing into Atlanta, there are plenty of attractions. The new (fairly new) aquarium is pretty nice.
http://www.georgiaaquarium.org/
High Museum of Art is always a good place to go: http://www.high.org/
They are currently featuring an exhibit from the Louvre.
I also like the Atlanta Zoo and the Cyclorama (a Civil War museum mostly about the Battle of Atlanta). They are co-located in Grant Park on the south side so pretty convenient for a one day excursion.
http://www.zooatlanta.org/home.htm
http://www.atlantacyclorama.org/
http://www.webguide.com/cyclorama.html
If you have some specific interest, let me know and I'll see what I can recommend.
Also, there are several really good restaurants off the square in downtown LaGrange.
Have a good trip. Hope you bring lots of folks down to cheer on your guys.
Andras
Calloway gardens is awesome ...my wife and i r long term members and bike there (only ~11 miles).... beautiful... butterfly house, lots of gardens...the old PBS victory garden south is there...
little white house is worth the trip also
the aquarium in the ATL is better than good
respectfully... the "high" made me ill...i lack enough culture
i love riding the marta... i thank it is safe ...if u go to the ATL...hit the CNN center... and go by the Varsity (or greasy V)... largest drive in resturant in the usa (world ?)...my personal recomendation is a dog (dawg)... usually do not have to say chilli dog as to them, that would be redundant.... order of rings (fried onion rings)...and a frosted Orange .... wow... i usually get a fever blister 2 days later...but no pain, no gain
i have been eating at the 'V' for literally 54.5 yrs
both sides of the hooch ( a river popularized by alan jackson...that i grew up near) are beautiful....have a blast
keep th faith
Thanks for all the tips! My wife and have a wide variety of interests so we always enjoy ourselves where ever we go.
I thought Callaway looked interesting, used to watch Victory Garden all the time and I thought the name sounded familiar. The Cyclorama at Grant Park sounds cool too.
We won't be able to see it all on this trip for sure.
from Greenville's homecoming/Senior Day
Greenville 6 - Blackburn 0 - about 5 min. left in first quarter
Huntingdon leads Westminster 10-3 at the half. With two turnovers and lots of penalties it has taken a while for HC's offense to get going. WC got a field goal early in the 2nd. Then late HC got field goal to tie after a turnover then a nice two-minute drill TD in the last seconds of the half.
HC's defense has been on the field a lot so the offense needs to get things going better in the 2nd half.
Go Hawks!!
at the end of the 1st quarter, Greenville 6, Blackburn 0 - Greenville score came on a run by Antoine Kennedy
Greenville 12, Blackburn 0 after a Kegal to Friedrich TD pass
Big break for the Hawks! WC fumbles on 2nd play of 3rd qtr. HC recovers at the 6.
Sounds like Ridgeway throws a TD pass to himself. Threw pass across middle and it was batted back to him and he ran it in. 17-3 HC early in 3rd.
After a 3 and out 40 yd TD pass Ridgeway to Dunlap. 24-3 10:30 left in 3rd.
Sounds like the offense has finally gotten in a groove.
Go Hawks!!
Greenville 18 - Blackburn 0 - Dominic Kegal 37 yard TD run, with about 3:30 left in 1st half
WC drives and scores on a TD pass. 24-10 Huntingdon w/7:00 left in 3rd.
HC drives back with a 20 yd TD pass, Ridgeway to Manning. 31-10 HC w/? left in 3rd.
Greenville 18, Blackburn 7 - 1:32 left in 1st half
Greenville 24, Blackburn 7 - on a Kegal to friedrich pass
at the half.....Greenville 24, Blackburn 7
Eidson with a 20 yd run to make it 31-17 w/1:33 left in 3rd.
Both offenses going up and down the field in the 3rd quarter.
After a short kick, HC with a quick drive, Gilmore from the 6. 38-17 w/:06 left in 3rd.
After a defensive struggle in the 1st half, it's suddenly turned into a barn burner.
Go Hawks!
On a bad snap Huntingdon's punter kicks ball out of endzone for safety, 38-19 HC.
Gilmore with a 35 yd run to make it 45-19 Huntingdon w/:31 left in game.
Greenville 31, Blackburn 7 on a 1 yard scoring run by Esteban Camarillo
at the end of the 3rd quarter - Greenville 31, Blackburn 7
Final score Huntingdon 45- Westminster 19
They had me nervous in the first half but HC took control in the 3rd quarter to pull away.
Good job fellas!
Signing off they said 44-19 so we must have missed the last extra point. I could have sworn he said it was good.
Go Hawks!
Greenville 38 - Blackburn 7 on a Kegal to Rendell Flood 20 yard pass
Final from Greenville.....Greenville 38, Blackburn 14
from listening on the radio it sounded like a sloppy game, multiple turnovers by both teams but Greenville holds on for the W. Next week they are in Fulton, MO at Westminster.
Quote from: Andras Bacia on October 23, 2008, 01:02:53 AM
Hey Forgotten Man, we'll be at LaGrange on the 1st to cheer on EC. Looking forward to the trip and the game.
We plan on hanging around for a few days and checking out West Point lake.
Any other must see tourist traps we should visit?
The Google map was a great idea.
Right now the weather guessers ??? are saying it should be a good day for football. http://www.accuweather.com/us/GA/Lagrange/30240/city-weather-forecast.asp
Drive Safely.
congrats to the players of the week:
FOOTBALL - OFFENSE
MacMurray College's Demarien Hampton, a sophomore from Chicago, Ill. (Percy Julian), has been named the SLIAC Football Offensive Player of the Week for the week of October 20-26.
Hampton, a 6-4 quarterback, completed 27-of-41 passes for a total of 373 yards and three touchdowns in the Highlanders 47-34 victory versus Eureka College. Hampton's first half statistics alone included 21-of-26 completions for 254 yards and two touchdowns. He engineered five touchdown drives on MacMurray's first six possessions, with four of the drives of at least 10 plays.
Hampton's performance helped him to break several MacMurray season records, including touchdown passes (24), pass attempts (300), completions (153) and yards (2,188).
FOOTBALL - DEFENSE
Eureka College's Matt Tieman, a freshman from Champaign, Ill. (St. Thomas More), has been named the SLIAC Football Defensive Player of the Week for the week of October 20-26.
Tieman, a 5-11 defensive lineman, tallied six solo tackles, three assisted tackles and 4.0 tackles for a loss of five yards in the Red Devils 47-34 loss to MacMurray College. His nine tackles and 4.0 tackles for loss were a career-high, as he made his first start ever at defensive tackle. He also helped the Eureka defense hold MacMurray's running game to just 4.4 yards per rush.
FOOTBALL - SPECIAL TEAMS
Eureka College's Joe White, a freshman from Manito, Ill. (Concordia), has been named the SLIAC Football Special Teams Player of the Week for the week of October 20-26.
White, a 6-0 kick returner, had four kickoff returns for a total of 100 yards, including a long return of 33 yards. His other three returns were 20 yards, 17 yards and 28 yards, helping him to a career and game-high 206 all-purpose yards in Eureka's 47-34 loss to MacMurray College.
i pray all have a safe and productive week
i hit the road again in the AM :-[.... Lord willing i will get back to see Hawks88 on sat morning in Montgomery ;D
keep the faith
congrats to both Huntingdon and LaGrange for getting some votes in this wks AFCA's D-3 top 25 poll
Although neither team broke into the top 25...they represented the SLIAC well for getting mentioned
http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=1613012
4th wk n a row for LaGrange to recieve votes and the second wk for Huntingdon
also
i thank the game to watch this wk will b Greenville vs Westminister.... should b a good game against to good ball clubs...and the winner should round out the top 3 in the SLIAC
keep the faith
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 27, 2008, 12:53:28 PM
Quote from: Andras Bacia on October 23, 2008, 01:02:53 AM
Hey Forgotten Man, we'll be at LaGrange on the 1st to cheer on EC. Looking forward to the trip and the game.
We plan on hanging around for a few days and checking out West Point lake.
Any other must see tourist traps we should visit?
The Google map was a great idea.
Right now the weather guessers ??? are saying it should be a good day for football. http://www.accuweather.com/us/GA/Lagrange/30240/city-weather-forecast.asp
Drive Safely.
Saturday, Nov 1
High: 69 °F RealFeel®: 66 °F
Nice with plenty of sunshineSounds like perfect football weather!!
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2008, 09:40:26 PM
Forgotten Man -- I think you're the only LaGrange fan on the board. Welcome!
(We had one earlier but he didn't get any takers for his LaGrange-to-the-Stagg-Bowl talk and I don't think we've seen him since.)
Not anymore. :D I grew up in LaGrange and my parents are both LC alums, though I'm not all. All the same, I grew up watching LC baseball and basketball, and if they'd had football back then, I'd have been at every football game too. Glad to be on board, and looking forward to taking care of Huntingdon in a few weeks. ;)
Quote from: LCPanther on October 29, 2008, 10:40:39 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2008, 09:40:26 PM
Forgotten Man -- I think you're the only LaGrange fan on the board. Welcome!
(We had one earlier but he didn't get any takers for his LaGrange-to-the-Stagg-Bowl talk and I don't think we've seen him since.)
Not anymore. :D I grew up in LaGrange and my parents are both LC alums, though I'm not all. All the same, I grew up watching LC baseball and basketball, and if they'd had football back then, I'd have been at every football game too. Glad to be on board, and looking forward to taking care of Huntingdon in a few weeks. ;)
Welcome. It's been nice meeting locals at the games. Hope you can make it to this week's contest with Eureka College.
LC Panther said:
.....Glad to be on board, and looking forward to taking care of Huntingdon in a few weeks.
that could happen... it stacks up to b a close game against 2 very equal teams
with the exception of the 2 NAIA games (which shouldn't count toward D-3 playoffs) and the beat down that LC put on murrville vs the 'just win Huntingdon' had..... the 2 teams performance is almost identical against common opponents in the SLIAC
they are very similar teams.... it will b a real good game ...i thank... and who ever wins..... should get a chance to go to the playoffs
perhaps the selection committee will see the wisdom of sending both..
it appears LC has a clearer road to the playoffs as they have a great chance of being 9-0 or 8-1 in D-3, (no disrespect intended toward Eureka...but...LC is real)
it is 'muddy -ier' ;D for Huntingdon, as they could end up 7-2, 8-1, or 9-0 in D-3 ( and i mean no disrespect to Principia) with both HSC ( a 1 loss ODAC team) and LC ( a no D-3 loss team) over the final 2 wks of the season
keep the faith
AF4: You sound like Vince Dooley :D
LC better have it's A game and stop with the penalties if they have any hopes of beating HC.
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 30, 2008, 01:06:01 PM
AF4: You sound like Vince Dooley :D
LC better have it's A game and stop with the penalties if they have any hopes of beating HC.
brother... i am unsure if that is a complement... but he is a good Auburn boy (his roommate whle at AU was former gov fob james) :D
the LC HC game will b a good game..... i believe we both match up well
i honestly believe they r real close... look at the SLIAC game scores and at the SLIAC statistics......it is uncanny how close the 2 r
yall got a wk off (HC plays HSC :( ) and the game is at your house >:(
have a good wk with Eureka.... they r a good ball club... but like they say... yall r for real
keep the faith
Quote from: AF4 on October 30, 2008, 01:26:02 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 30, 2008, 01:06:01 PM
AF4: You sound like Vince Dooley :D
LC better have it's A game and stop with the penalties if they have any hopes of beating HC.
brother... i am unsure if that is a complement... but he is a good Auburn boy (his roommate whle at AU was former gov fob james) :D
...
Coach Dooley used to always talk about how good their opponents were and enumerate all the disadvantages his team faced. ::) Since I am a Tech fan, I guess it would be fair to question whether or not it was a compliment ;) But it was definitely not a "dis." I actually have a great deal of respect for Coach Dooley. So, consider it a left-handed compliment. :D
thanks
i use to love dooley and bryant both crying about thier teams
i still remember bryants TV show and the golden flakes and lack of conversation
i grew up a yelow jacket fan... even worked at Grant Field helping my dad
kim king, lenny snow, john lagana (sp) billy lothrage (sp) randy rhino and the great Bobby Dodd.... long time ago
have a great wk and keep the faith
For those Eureka and LaGrange fans who won't be able to attend the game, you should be able to listen to the radio broadcast over the Internet:
http://gridirongameoftheweek.com/
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 30, 2008, 09:41:40 AM
Quote from: LCPanther on October 29, 2008, 10:40:39 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2008, 09:40:26 PM
Forgotten Man -- I think you're the only LaGrange fan on the board. Welcome!
(We had one earlier but he didn't get any takers for his LaGrange-to-the-Stagg-Bowl talk and I don't think we've seen him since.)
Not anymore. :D I grew up in LaGrange and my parents are both LC alums, though I'm not all. All the same, I grew up watching LC baseball and basketball, and if they'd had football back then, I'd have been at every football game too. Glad to be on board, and looking forward to taking care of Huntingdon in a few weeks. ;)
Welcome. It's been nice meeting locals at the games. Hope you can make it to this week's contest with Eureka College.
Alas, I live in Tallahassee...won't make it to a game this year. I'm going to try to plan a trip next season.
at the end of the first quarter.....Greenville 15, Westminster 3
the Greenville Westminister game sounds like it played out as good as many figured
D-3 Scoreboard says Greenvile 29 Westminister 27...... i bet it was a good one
congrats to MacMurray for thier win
Both Lagrange and Huntingdon won (LaGrange dominated Eureka), and are heading toward thier show down in 2 wks
met some very, very nice folks from Principia, u have to admire them with such a small number of players, trying as hard as they do.....
everyone played a bunch
Sen Jeff Sessions (R-AL) was there at the game campaigning (he is a Huntingdon Alumnus), the al fish producers fed us Fried fish and Fried or boiled shrimp (the fried is somthing i am more famaliar with as i am a 55yr old southerner)
LaGrange has an off wk, Huntingdon must play HSC (a 1 loss ODAC team who had an off wk this wk) next sat in Montgomery
keep the faith
I am a Greenville alum and worked for the Football team during my time as a student. I am now living in Washington State so obviously was not at the game. From what I heard on the radio broadcast on my lunch break from work, it did sound like a pretty good game, back and fourth for alot of it.
Greenville QB Kegal did get injured in the first half and had to sit out some time, it was good to hear he came back! With the W today, they now sit at 5-4 with one game to go next week at Eureka.
Greenville is also affiliated with the NCCAA (National Christian College Athletic Association) and as of last week, were #3 in the nation for that. As a result, the could still be in contention for the Victory Bowl.
gcfan
please let us know if yall get to go to the bowl game
kegal is an excellent QB.....good win
keep the faith
Nice to meet some of the Eureka College fans yesterday--especially your coaches dad. Hope you enjoyed the southern weather and that you are having a safe journey home.
Congrats to Dominic Kegel- Sliac O player of the wk:
Greenville College's Dominic Kegel, a senior from Hunters, Wash., has been named the SLIAC Football Offensive Player of the Week for the week of October 27-November 2.
Kegel, a 6-2 quarterback, passed 7-of-13 for 69 yards and one touchdown, while also tallying 79 yards and two touchdowns on 15 rushes in the Panthers 29-27 victory on the road at Westminster College (Mo.).
Congrats to Elijah McPhearson, SLIAC D player of the wk:
MacMurray College's Elijah McPherson, a freshman from Mesa, Ariz. (Skyline), has been named the SLIAC Football Defensive Player of the Week for the week of October 27-November 2.
McPherson, a 5-11 linebacker, had seven solo tackles, five assisted tackles, one tackle for a loss of five yards, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery. His forced fumble and recovery came with 2:33 left in the fourth quarter, giving the Highlanders a final possession that led to their game-winning touchdown. MacMurray defeated Blackburn College 17-10.
and congrats to Josh Stripling, SLIAC Special Team player of the wk:
LaGrange College's Josh Stripling, a sophomore from Newnan, Ga., has been named the SLIAC Football Special Teams Player of the Week for the week of October 27-November 2. This is the third time this season that he has earned the honor.
Stripling, a 6-0 kicker/punter, had eight kickoffs for a total of 512 yards, including one touchback in the Panthers' 63-19 victory versus Eureka College. He also went 7-for-7 in PAT attempts, increasing his streak to 19 straight made PAT attempts. Stripling also added one punt for 56 yards in the win.
way to go guys
keep the faith
Bad deal
HSC 38 huntindon 34.... they were just better ...no where to hide
next wk we have to rebound against LaGrange
bad thing is it is out on the table...HSC scouted us well, they were well prepared, well coached
we can stop almost anybody running the ball...we pretty much did today, but in the spread (like LaGrange runs, well) HSC killed us on short routes
Kegel did the same for Greenville, we just managed to score more
i worry about LaGrange
good luck HSC next wk
keep the faith
Very disappointing loss today. Our offense just seemed out of sync for most of the day until getting things going in the 4th quarter. I figured if we slowed HSC's running game like we did and got two or three int's like we did that we would have a real good chance to win. I just didn't count on us making #81 look like the next coming of Jerry Rice or something. Overall we just didn't play well enough to win, a few drops, a few over thrown open receivers and too many procedure calls at inopportune times just doesn't add up to a win against a good team. Hats off the Hampden-Sydney, hopefully you can win next week and get a bid.
We just have to forget this one and get ready for next week to go out and win the conference and with some help and some luck maybe we can get in too.
Go Hawks!!
good to see u today, Hawks88
81 did luck good..i thank he was about 10inches taller than our DB.... really
defence gotta figure stuff out before the LaGrange passing attck shows up
thanks for the Bruswick stew, my bride loved it
keep the faith buddy
Sorry you guys lost to HSC in the end, but it sounds like it was a pretty close game in spite of it all.
Hope LC can keep you guys sufficiently challenged. Sounds like the boys are working hard to get ready for y'all.
Thanks, FM, it was definitely the most exciting game we've had in a long time. I'm still hoarse from all the yelling. It would have been really easy to give up when we were down 17 in the 4th qtr but our guys showed some guts fighting back the way they did. I felt like if we could have gotten the ball back at the end that we would have scored but they did a great job of moving the chains and running out the clock.
I don't think you have to worry about challenging us. I think the teams are pretty evenly matched and whoever makes the least mistakes will come out on top.
Go Hawks!
it was a good game..... we just got to fix the hole in our D...
HSC did a good job of scouting us and had a great game plan
we did fight back....but.... we gave too many mid range , well exicuited passes to tall recievers....unfortunatly that has been there all yr, and no one has exploited it this well
we will work it out and fix it, or...it will b a long drive hom from LaGrange
keep the faith
congrats to
O player of the wk: Greenville College's Dominic Kegel, a senior from Hunters, Wash., has been named the SLIAC Football Offensive Player of the Week for the week of November 3-9. This is the second consecutive week that he has earned the honor.
Kegel, a 6-2 quarterback, passed 14-of-19 for 304 yards, five touchdowns and had one 2-point conversion completion in the Panthers 49-26 victory versus Eureka College. He also rushed for 31 yards, including one touchdown and one 2-point conversion rushing.
D player of the wk: Westminster College's Lester Jones, a senior from Kirkwood, Mo., has been named the SLIAC Football Defensive Player of the Week for the week of November 3-9.
Jones, a 5-11 defensive lineman, had six solo tackles and three assisted tackles in the Blue Jays 37-6 victory versus Blackburn College. He also added five tackles for a total loss of 35 yards and two sacks for a loss of 14 yards.
from a selfish ( my 'Huntingdon' perspective)... i am sure glad both of these 2 are seniors....they are both excellent ball players
keep the faith
Congrats to LaGrange
i pray the selecton comittee wil see the wisdom of picking them to go to the playoffs
i hate that Huntingdon lost...but i am now rooting for the selection comittee to see how keeping this 'story book' season of LaGrange alive will be good for D-3 football
great first season for the SLIAC
Go Hawks (and Go Panthers if u get to go to mississippi)
keep the faith
Well, hats off and good luck to LaGrange. I think they just wanted it more than we did today. I thought our defense did a real good job today considering how long they were on the field. I'm not sure where our offense went these last two weeks but they pretty much just stunk it up for the most part. I'm not sure if it's just the result of finally playing decent competition after all those easy games or if there is something else wrong. Hopefully we can get straightened out for next year and make another run at the conference and playoffs.
Go Hawks!
Thanks for the good wishes. It was a game that, I think, lived up to expectations for excitement. Your guys played well and they never gave up, even in the final seconds. My son also praised your boys for playing with class.
I thought it was a bad omen for us when I saw numerous hawks flying overhead on the drive down I-85 this morning and especially when another hawk circled the stadium just before kick off. ::)
Best Regards.
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on November 15, 2008, 09:36:08 PM
Thanks for the good wishes. It was a game that, I think, lived up to expectations for excitement. Your guys played well and they never gave up, even in the final seconds. My son also praised your boys for playing with class.
I thought it was a bad omen for us when I saw numerous hawks flying overhead on the drive down I-85 this morning and especially when another hawk circled the stadium just before kick off. ::)
Best Regards.
Was that a hawk or a War Eagle? ;)
Ralph Turner said:
"Was that a hawk or a War Eagle?"
neither one today buddy :( probably a buzzard
Huntingdon's season is over...and Auburn has to go on (slower death) with Alabama up next
keep the faith
Congrats to both Huntington and Lagrange for having such fine seasons. It is awesome to have such good and classy rivals for us here at Maryville. As a fan I certainly look foward to playing ya'll in the future. As Maryville has made the transition to the USA South conference, we lost some long time traditional rivals such as E and H, Sewanee, etc. By adding ya'll and being able to keep Centre on our non- conference schedule, it has created some good games that certainly prepare us for competition in the USA South. Hope you have a great off- season. And good luck to Lagrange if they make the play-offs.
Highlander
that is right back at u
the 3 of us are good partners (want to beat yall...and yall us) but we r all GSAC in all but football...good home and home partners
see yall next yr up in Tn...and LaGrange in Montgomery next yr...Lord willling
keep the faith
Congrats to Lagrange on the conference championship and a berth into the playoffs!
P.S. I had mentioned in an earlier post that Greenville was still in contention for a Victory Bowl slot, but that did not turn out thus Northwestern - D3 and Malone NAIA will play in that.
Quote from: gcfan on November 16, 2008, 09:13:17 PM
Congrats to Lagrange on the conference championship and a berth into the playoffs!
P.S. I had mentioned in an earlier post that Greenville was still in contention for a Victory Bowl slot, but that did not turn out thus Northwestern - D3 and Malone NAIA will play in that.
Thanks. You guys played us pretty tough down here.
Sorry you didn't get the Victory Bowl slot.
Guess we travel up to your house next year. See you then.
Quote from: Highlander on November 16, 2008, 11:10:36 AM
Congrats to both Huntington and Lagrange for having such fine seasons. It is awesome to have such good and classy rivals for us here at Maryville. As a fan I certainly look foward to playing ya'll in the future. As Maryville has made the transition to the USA South conference, we lost some long time traditional rivals such as E and H, Sewanee, etc. By adding ya'll and being able to keep Centre on our non- conference schedule, it has created some good games that certainly prepare us for competition in the USA South. Hope you have a great off- season. And good luck to Lagrange if they make the play-offs.
It's been a good rivalry with you guys and I've enjoyed the trips to Maryville. Almost as close to our home as is the LC campus.
Wish there had been a way to get the three of us in the same conference.
Any Eureka fans know what is going on with the Head coaching Search? I understand they are interviewing coaches this week and next. Is the interm coach being considered? Let us know what you hear.
all right LaGrange
time to get it did...i wish it was us going....uh...but.... i am worried about what we would find in jackson.... so..... i am pulling for yall
tough task (i believe millsaps is the most underrated team in D-3....i really do)
stil,l i pray yall can keep the magic going
go panthers (wow i really said that...hope no body heard me) ;D
keep the faith
Quote from: AF4 on November 21, 2008, 11:44:32 AM
go panthers (wow i really said that...hope no body heard me) ;D
keep the faith
>:( ??
Just kidding. Put on a good show and make the SLIAC proud, LaGrange.
The LaGrange radio broadcast is available at www.gridirongameoftheweek.com. It's a good game thus far, Milsaps leading 17-7 at the start of the 2nd Q.
Great job, Panthers! You earned plenty of respect!
In reply to old 40
Yes the interim coach is being considered...we have already had an interview with one coach who was a three time all american at eureka college back when they were naia, he looks like he could be a good fit but we have a couple more interviews and whoever is best suited will get the job...I think that we should bring in a new guy, because obviously the last couple of coaches havent did such a great job, not taking anything from them...The record shows it all
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2008, 05:09:40 PM
Great job, Panthers! You earned plenty of respect!
It was a great experience for the guys. They are already talking about what they need to do in the off-season to get better for next year.
Happy Thanksgiving y'all.
Congratulations SLIAC Football Award Winners.
http://sliac.org/headlines/2008-09/fb_112408.htm
But of course anyone who plays D3 football is a winner!
Great first year for the new football version of the SLIAC... next yr will b even better
i thank we will have even more parity next season
if Greenville, Westminister, and Huntington can each improve 1-2 touchdowns they should b able to catch LaGrange... only thing is..LaGrange will get even better as all those juniors mature
hopefully Eureka and Blackburn can get a good jump in recruiting . and Lord willing Prinicipia can get a bunch of kids out for football next yr
i pray everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving...stay healthy
keep the faith
congrats to the all 26 football playing members of the SLIAC fall all- academic team
special shout out or props (as they say now days) to the 7 Huntingdon Hawks
way to go to all the Scholar - Athletes
keep the faith
Humblepie;
Anyword on the Eureka hire? I heard they interviewed 3 outside coaches and one inside. I have not seen any announcements. I heard the AD called the candidates on Wednesday and said they made an offer to someone. Let us know if you hear anything.
Kurt Barth, former Eureka College stand out will be the next head coach at Eureka. Congratulations to the Red Devils for landing an outstanding coach, and good luck for the next few years to come!
Hopefully Kurt Barth can bring the eureka program back to the days when he was playing. If Eureka can get some good recruits and find a way to keep the good players they have I think they can shock alot of teams in the sliac
Quote from: humblepie on December 03, 2008, 12:13:23 PM
If Eureka can get some good recruits and find a way to keep the good players
That is the key.
As an EC fan I hope Coach Barth can make a difference and get the Red Devils on the winning side, but it might take more than coaching.
Eureka had a very good freshman class this year with several making significant contributions to the team. Unfortunately I've been hearing through the grapevine that some of those top recruits won't be back next year.
With around 21 Division 3 programs just in Illinois, and many more in neighboring states, there are a lot of options for good D3 players in the area. IMHO, if Eureka is going to attract and hang on to top players they need to make some major improvements across the board, new equipment, weight room, dorms, etc. It's time for some upgrades.
Eureka followers,
Let's not kid ourselves. The Barth hire is obviously as a result of lack of options. When a press release talks about a coaches former playing days rather than his successes as a coach, such leads one to wonder. 8 wins in 3 years at EC as Asst Coach/Coordinator. 1 winning season in the last 4 as a HS Head Coach.
The only time EC has been successful is when they were NAIA or D3 (playing with NAIA scholarship players - Barth era). Bottom line, unless they go back to NAIA, EC is a place where they will have a new coach every 3-4 years and get average players.
Eureka didn't have scholarship athletes during the Barth era. They were affiliated with both NAIA and NCAA Div. 3. If they did they couldn't have been D3. Eureka had good coaches that could recruit too, i.e John Tully and Nick Fletcher.
Eureka's past administration didn't put $$$ into the facilites and let things go down hill. Additions have been made under the new president and I think the new AD is a great addition. EC athletics has a bright future I believe.
I'm cautiously optimistic on the Barth hire. Not a great resume but if he can get his players to play like he did and recruit well Eureka will turns things around quickly.
Good Luck Coach Barth and GO RED DEVIlS!!!
I think Kurt is a great fit for the Red Devils. I played one year under Kurt when he was the OC at Eureka and he is a great motivater. He has the support of the college behind him, which is a lot more than the last Coach had. Also, regarding his high school coaching record. Kurt got his foot in the door by taking a job at a high school that is best known for cross country running!!! They were coming off a 1 or 2 win season and had just been placed into a conference that has produced State Championship appearing teams 4 of the last 8 years, and Kurt got his team into the playoffs!!!
Only time will tell, but Kurt Barth goes hand in hand with Red Devil football and a lot of people are happy he is back home!!!!!
L79,
It is my understanding Eureka was NAIA and offered scholarships. However, when they went D3 they quit offering scholarships, but those scholarship players remained in the program. Bottom line, the point I was making is it took money to draw folks (quality players) to Eureka regardless of who the coach was.
D50,
I am glad he was able to motivate you to a 8-22 record. More of the same, the 2008 squad scored the most points in a season since '97, which is nothing to brag about. If he was such a great motivator, why aren't we seeing it in his records/statistics as a coach.
"Foot in the door", "cross country"???? Come on, excuses are like a-holes and everyone has one and they all stink. Can someone tell me the last time a cc runner was great football player? They run cc for a reason. Doesn't Eureka coop? Did someone put a gun to Kurt's head and say he had to take the Eureka job? I know of 10 jobs in the last 4 years, which have opened up, which are better the EHS. Why didn't he hired for one of those?
I could really care less what conference they are in. He was only in the conference for the last 4 years, not 8. Let's face it, Central Catholic over the last 4 years has been the only consistent team. Each of the other remaining schools has had up and down years or below average teams. PC, U-High, Rantoul, Olympia are all winnable games. Their non-conference game should be a winner. Bottomline, good coaches come up with 1-2 wins a year where they should not have won the game.
I will let the Eureka followers state their case for their new HC, but we will have this same discussion in a few years despite being in one of the worst conferences in D3.
Here are a few things Coach Barth will need to work on.
Of the 235 D3 teams the Eureka finished 48th in total offense and 23rd in rushing offense. Lagrange and Huntingdon were the only two SLIAC teams to finish ahead of them in these categories. Despite these numbers Eureka was 131st in scoring offense. (still scoring more than any team since '97) And I have to say some of the play calling and personnel decisions during the season were a little odd, inconsistent and even bizarre at times.
Don't run the same formation in every situation. Mix it up. It's not hard for a disciplined defense to stop the current offense.
The Eureka defense finished 227th out of 235. The only SLIAC defense worse than Eureka, 0-10 Principia at #235. The defense needs work.
And find a kicker/punter, you can't give up field position like we did this year and expect to win.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&div=III&site=org
What do I know:
That is a pretty fitting name since you seem to know everything about Eureka College and Kurt Barth, but let me tell you what I KNOW!!!!
What I know is that Dan Sullivan (EC's former coach) took over a team that had all of it's talent returning from a competitive 3-7 squad.
-Then proceeded to run off half of the players with his arrogance and his "I'm the head Coach not your friend attitude!"
-A team that had 75 players returned the following year with 39!!!!!
We went 1-9
-Then we went 0-10.
-Then the Head Coach of a College football program, would get onto this website under many names "Touchdown Jesus" for one and run his mouth!
-Then the President of the College fired the AD because she did not have the "heart" to fire Sullivan, and it took the new AD 3 games to get the job done and thats a fact!
*So as I said before the Red Devil community is excited to have Kurt Barth return home.
*And it is pretty hard to get coach to an 8-22 record in one season under a coach, O and Sullivan 3-27 in his first 3 years!!! wow
D50,
My name is pretty fitting. Much of the information I have posted is common knowledge, but a little research doesn't hurt. Bottom line, I could give 2 cents about Dan Sullivan or Kurt Barth. The point of the matter is Dan Sullivan's 3 wins in 2+ seasons is par for the course for Eureka. Per the D3 website, since 99 you have won an average of 1.9 games a year! Kurt's average win total is 2 games a year, so I guess it is an upgrade per EC standards.
My only comment about this hire is EC had an opportunity to go out and get a coach with proven success either over a short or long period of time. They failed to do this and for whatever their motives were hired Mr. Barth.
AB,
Take stats for what they are worth as it is all relative. EC plays in one of the worst conferences in D3. I would state EC needs a lot of work in a number of areas. Only time will tell.
Quote from: WhatDoIKnow on December 11, 2008, 05:08:48 PM
AB,
Take stats for what they are worth as it is all relative. EC plays in one of the worst conferences in D3. I would state EC needs a lot of work in a number of areas. Only time will tell.
Agreed, stats are relative. First I would like to see EC
compete in what is considered one of the worst conferences in D3. Then move on from there.
I have been part of a few consistant winning programs over the years and I believe
winning is a habit, but so is losing.
There were some bright spots this year, and room for vast improvement.
I was a Sr the year Coach Barth was at Defiance and then played with him for a year in the Arena ball on a different team but had lost touch of him since. Real good guy and easy to get along with which should help him at EC. he needs to players in there with some volume to have a little depth and build experience, unless you have numbers it will never get out out of the cellar.
I would not look down on his coaching experience. if you really think that someone with more experience than that would have interviewed you are crazy and HC expereince at D3? seriously like there are a lot of those unemployed much less looking to come to the middle of nowhere IL (granted you could always head to Big Al's in Peoria for coaching meetings). he has 4 years college and 1 year post college playing with ~10 yrs coaching with lots of college and 4 yrs are as a HC. that is better than what a lot of places get. of course experience does not drive if he will be a success, se how many freshman show up in August and how many of the current players return in January. Hopefully he can rally the existing players before they leave for christmas and tell their parents to look at transfering
I just looked at EC's website and Coach Barth is the only football coach listed right now.
It appears they cleaned house for 2009!
Probably most will overlook this, any with football and Blackburn College in the same sentence.
The school is suppose to be making the announcement tomorrow of cancelling the football program. Coach Vandezande's role to destroy a program was exactly what Pres. Mim Pride wanted when she brought him in. All current players went to the college provost and said either Coach V goes or we go. The school said football goes.
It's hard to believe that in the mid 90's there were 115 kids on the roster, 9 game varsity schedule with a 8 game JV schedule.
Hopefully they'll shut down the school and go bankrupt in a couple years. BC was supposed to be the summer home for the St. Louis Rams. The Rams wanted to redo the stadium, upgrade a dorm, build an artificial turf field. Financial Director Fanning said it was too much money out of BC's pocket, and shot down the idea. They estimated that the town would bring in $400,000 a week if the Rams came.
If administration got their heads out of their asses, BC might be a good place to go.
I hate it for all these young men if this is true. Hopefully it isn't a done deal and something can be worked out.
Hay
i looked around the web and couldn't find anything about Blackburn dropping football ..perhaps i am looking in the wrong places ?
Hawks88 - i pray u had a wonderful Christmas and New Years
keep the faith
pugh
AF4,
Pretty good holidays here except for the father-in-law having some health problems. He needs lots of prayer. Hope you guys had a great holiday.
You heard anything about next season's schedule yet? I thought I had heard that we were going to be playing B'ham Southern but they have posted their schedule and we aren't on it.
You have a good one.
Go Hawks!
BC football:
Is there going to be a write-up anywhere about the college cancelling the football program? I hope they rethink this idea so your players have an opportunity to play.
My high school was a small 1A school and cancelled our program for two years my junior year. It turned out to be a blessing in disguise as I transfered to a private school to play my senior year, where I had a break out year and met life long friends. So if Blackburn does cancell football, hopefully some good will come out of it for your players, like it did for me.
Does anyone know if there is any penalty (time that you must sit out) if you transfer D3 to D3. I know you can't transfer up to D2 or D1 without a penalty but I don't know about D3 to D3, and if so, would the NCAA make an exception because of the situation?
Quote from: Devils 50 on January 13, 2009, 09:55:45 AM
BC football:
Is there going to be a write-up anywhere about the college canceling the football program? I hope they rethink this idea so your players have an opportunity to play.
My high school was a small 1A school and canceled our program for two years my junior year. It turned out to be a blessing in disguise as I transferred to a private school to play my senior year, where I had a break out year and met life long friends. So if Blackburn does cancel football, hopefully some good will come out of it for your players, like it did for me.
Does anyone know if there is any penalty (time that you must sit out) if you transfer D3 to D3. I know you can't transfer up to D2 or D1 without a penalty but I don't know about D3 to D3, and if so, would the NCAA make an exception because of the situation?
No penalty on transferring from D3 to D3.
I don't know if you would have to sit out a season if you transferred to a D2 or a D1 from a program that gave up football.
I would defer to the NJAC guys, back when New Jersey City gave up football earlier in the decade.
I seem to recall that when SMU got the "death penalty", players were allowed to transfer without sitting out. I'd assume shutting down football entirely would be viewed the same.
I called a left a message last night for Blackburn authorities. Hopefully I hear back.
As a father of a freshman football player of BC, I can clear some things up, I think.
YES football as been terminated at blackburn.
There was termoil among players(not all) and coaching during the season. A pettion was signed by players(not all) calling for coach V to be terminated.
Some players got in trouble during the season for some thing that happened off the field (Probably happens at most schools).
Acording to school President Mim Pride, the Official reason for termination was a 750,000 hole in the budget. However only football was effected.!
The team got together( those on campus) last night to discuss there optoins.Mim Pride showed up .I don't know if she was invited or just heard about the meeting . They ,(the boys) were discussing fund raissing and such.She told them that it was done. Didn't matter if they raised the money or not it was over.
So that leads me to believe that money was not the reason.
As a father investing in my son Education , As a life long citizen of Carlinville and supporter of Blackburn I Question (A) My future investment in his Education at BC (B) If one belives you teach by example as well as by book's..What is she teaching. That when there is a bump in the road you make a new road instead of fixing the road you have! In my opinion maybe she just doesn't have what it takes to be able to fix a problem. Maybe she has been there to long.
Was told by Mim Pride (president) that the budget for football was $250,000 .She also told me that ,there was a coach or coach's that volunteerd to work for free, " however that wouldn't fix the problem". "Even if money was raised for the program for five years, then what". I think she just doesn't like football.
I feel for the student that transfered to BC this semester to play football here next year.
P.S. According to the coaches they had 100 RSVP's for there recruitting days for next year.. 38 on the team roster to return maybe 40-50 from the recruitting. 80 x $ 22,000=$1,760,000
Blackburn College
1-800-233-3550 Mim Pride's Ext.4213
Dmags
i 'm sorry, and hate that for yall...really... bad deal...the boy said yall had nice kids (from the game)
if he wants to come south...send him to Huntingdon.... i'll see to it the boy helps him out
here is transfer info http://www.huntingdon.edu/admissions/transfers
link to coaches and athletic staff
http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/coaches_and_staff
if yall call admissions...he can apply for all manner of scholarship/grants/ etc
main web site http://www.huntingdon.edu/index
Huntingdon College is a really, really, neat place...come on down
what ever your son and you decide to do... good luck, fight the power, backs against the wall, and all that....... but.... keep the faith
If the Blackburn reports are accurate, this does not impair the quest for a Pool A bid by the SLIAC. The SLIAC still has four or more (specifically, five) core members and seven total members (including Huntingdon and LaGrange as affiliates) that fulfill the requirement of seven to earn the Pool A bid in 2010.
Doing some basic research on the web about Blackburn, I saw this comment written by a parent about the cessation of football at Blackburn...
http://www.stateuniversity.com/universities/IL/Blackburn_College.html
Blackburn is listed with only 605 students. If 60 are football players, that is a 10% knock on enrollment and an even greater dent in next year's freshman class and knocks the male-female ratio from about 45-55 to about 40-60.
Let's say $21,000 with a discount rate of "only $3000" to give $18,000 times 60 $1.08M. That has to close to the break-even point on their budget.
http://www.ibhe.state.il.us/InstitutionProfiles/ILinstProfile.aspx?id=001639
Petersen's
http://books.google.com/books?id=2QAHGalH30YC&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=Blackburn+College+Enrollment&source=web&ots=P8GlAZmGN6&sig=oCaZlD6Yhq38bOKYKVERU_D_KmA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&
ct=result
Here is the inside education article about Blackburn's attempts to draw students and compete. The discount rate is stated to be 32%. (Is that 32% off the $21000 that is bandied about to give that $13,500 or $15000 that we see?)
http://www.insidehighered.com/index.php/news/2008/01/15/blackburn
Here is an article in USNews. (Please scroll down to the bottom.)
http://www.usnews.com/articles/business/paying-for-college/2007/10/26/a-costly-cap-and-gown.html
I still have not found an endowment number, in either NACUBO databanks or elsewhere.
Another tid bit after personly speaking with Mim Pride (college president), with her telling me it was financial decision, then typing (poking) my coments on here. I find a article on State Journal Registers web site. With her saying that they will being using up to $150,000 of the money saved from football to invest into there soccer and basketball teams. With absolutely no disrespect for either boys soccer or basketball. Their records are no better than the football teams.
ps. As parents we thank you for the offer to go south. In all of the travels this year we didn't meet anybody that wasn't kind and friendly.... (before and after the games).MacMurry is only 45 miles away so, if HE CHOOSE's he would probably transfer there. If not i guess we will always have great memories ,even without a great record. I always thought high school football was the purist and the best, untill we witness'd D 3.
Dmags
that sounds like a plan...if your son and othrs decide to keep playing ball...transfer en masse to MacMurray.... it could take them from a good 4-6 team to a conference power.... that would b a good deal for all
good luck to yall...and Lord willing...we will see yall next season
keep the faith
Endowment numbers were posted on our basketball board last season.
Quote from: sliac_bystander on January 25, 2008, 05:59:25 PM
RE: SLIAC Endowment
Principia $352,695,272
Webster $55,976,514
Westminster $46,600,880
Maryville $36,677,576
Blackburn $14,694,344
Eureka $11,948,953
Fontbonne $11,584,865
Greenville $10,102,609
MacMurray $4,462,908
source: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/tools/search.php
Thanks for the endowment numbers!
Blackburn has "no" endowment (<$12M in 2007) . We are hearing drops of 20-25% across the board at every college.
Thanks (and prayers) to Coach VanDeZande as he shuts down the program!
May your colleagues look at the job you do this spring and applaud your efforts even more sincerely than a fabulous comeback win in a conference championship!
According to a reliable source, Blackburn has already lost 70 students that were to attend in the Fall of 2009...50 of which were incoming football players.
One of my best friends was a captain for the team and we discussed putting a tape together for Oprah in hopes that she could help us out in need from her own state! :)
What do ya'll think?
dynasty that sounds like a good plan. but blackburn has not lost 50 incoming students. ive seen the numbers. Blackburn actually didnt tell about 90% of their players until they were already checked in, so they couldnt leave. but 50 incoming football players is obsurd. blackburn hasnt fielded 50 players for about 10 years. and losing 70 students. i highly doubt it, i would say 35 tops. however i heard they are closing the pool and messing with the heat to save money? way to put your students in danger!
oh and dmags, blackburn mens soccer was 9-8 this year, the only team at the school with a winning record, you should look into that, the football field will make a nice soccer field and they deserve it as much as any other team at that school.
Congrats to the soccer team. Hope they can continue there success. And I'm sure the football field will make a good soccer field. Who knows maybe they will pay me to cut down the post. Wouldn't that be ironic. lol
My son , and i'm sure the rest of the players, are being recruited to go elsewhere by multiple school's. However I think he is going to stay at blackburn ,because of Prof. Camp's criminal justice program.
Time's are getting tough on some of the school's. And they have to make cut's in there budget. However I think She handled it terribly, by not giving those boy's notice. VERY UNPROFESIONLY.
Everything happens for a reason ,and I trust in that.
Good luck to all next season.
Perhaps it is not too late for Blackburn to permit any student to leave before the semester progresses too far.
i agree that it was done very unprofessionally. VERY! however i never played football or soccer so i cant really defend one or the other. i do know though, that many of those football players were in and still are in the weight room every day trying to get better. and dr. camp is a good guy. i cant and wont blame any of the players that leave though, it was a very shady move by administration.
straight off the conference website.
January 21, 2009
BLACKBURN COLLEGE DROPPING FOOTBALL PROGRAM
ST. LOUIS - The Presidents of the St Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference received notification from their colleague, Dr. Miriam Pride of Blackburn College last week that her institution was ceasing operation of its intercollegiate football program, effective immediately.
"(This decision is) the result of thorough research, thoughtful negotiation and heartfelt compromise," Dr. Pride said. "(It) redirects our resources to focus on our strengths. We are committed to continuing the unique fulfilling educational experience of our students."
"The SLIAC is saddened with Blackburn's decision but are completely supportive of President Pride, Dr. (Jeffrey) Aper (Blackburn Provost) and the Board of Trustees; and understand how tough of a decision this must have been as it affects more than the athletics department, current student-athletes and prospective student-athletes but the entire College and Carlinville communities," SLIAC Commissioner William J. Wolper said.
"I praise President Pride, Dr. Aper and the Board for not making cuts but rather re-appropriating for the betterment of the college community. Unfortunately our economy is such that all of our institutions must evaluate their co-curricular activity offerings to ensure the maximum benefit to the institution, student body, alumni and community, and we can only hope those decisions do not result in programming cuts."
As is commonplace with the Conference's operations never ending attempts to strengthen the SLIAC and its athletics offerings, the commissioner and Executive Committee of the Administrative Council have already commenced discussions to fortify SLIAC football.
With seven football playing members, including five "core" Conference members as defined and required by the NCAA, the SLIAC remains positioned for an automatic bid to the NCAA football playoffs beginning with the conclusion of the 2010 season.
The Conference will release a new schedule for the 2009 season in the near future. Changes from the original schedule will be kept to a minimum, but to ensure a Homecoming game for all teams, adjustments are required.
Heard tonight from an employee of blackburn. That Mim Pride is getting so much of a negative reaction from "every direction".
She is now saying they will add JV to basketball, soccer, and baseball. My Guess is by adding JV to baseball that maybe coach Neil would stay, (since he would be losing a chunk of his pay from being a paid asst. football coach).He would be greatly missed. I Hope she does and I hope it helps those programs.
So much for it being a fiancial decision.
Also was told by another one from front office. That no matter what anybody might say, recruitting for next year would of been the biggest since they have worked there. Guarantying no less than 40 new football players.Also said that most all of the football players are leaving for other schools. This coming from a person that has no conection to sports other than working in administration.
Quote from: Dmags on January 22, 2009, 11:18:51 PM
Heard tonight from an employee of blackburn. That Mim Pride is getting so much of a negative reaction from "every direction".
She is now saying they will add JV to basketball, soccer, and baseball. My Guess is by adding JV to baseball that maybe coach Neil would stay, (since he would be losing a chunk of his pay from being a paid asst. football coach).He would be greatly missed. I Hope she does and I hope it helps those programs.
So much for it being a fiancial decision.
Also was told by another one from front office. That no matter what anybody might say, recruitting for next year would of been the biggest since they have worked there. Guarantying no less than 40 new football players.Also said that most all of the football players are leaving for other schools. This coming from a person that has no conection to sports other than working in administration.
This web site has documented some of the benefits of adding football at various schools over the last 10 years.
Blackburn will surely be followed as a "case study" in the circles of finance and enrollment management in higher education.
Did President Pride make the right choice?
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 22, 2009, 11:56:23 PM
Quote from: Dmags on January 22, 2009, 11:18:51 PM
Heard tonight from an employee of blackburn. That Mim Pride is getting so much of a negative reaction from "every direction".
She is now saying they will add JV to basketball, soccer, and baseball. My Guess is by adding JV to baseball that maybe coach Neil would stay, (since he would be losing a chunk of his pay from being a paid asst. football coach).He would be greatly missed. I Hope she does and I hope it helps those programs.
So much for it being a fiancial decision.
Also was told by another one from front office. That no matter what anybody might say, recruitting for next year would of been the biggest since they have worked there. Guarantying no less than 40 new football players.Also said that most all of the football players are leaving for other schools. This coming from a person that has no conection to sports other than working in administration.
This web site has documented some of the benefits of adding football at various schools over the last 10 years.
Blackburn will surely be followed as a "case study" in the circles of finance and enrollment management in higher education.
Did President Pride make the right choice?
Well, admittedly I am biased, however, IMO, the answer is no. This smacks of the Swarthemore debacle of the beginning of this decade. If other schools the size of (or smaller than) Blackburn can field football teams, Blackburn can do it to - there are always ways to manage that and overcome the challenges. From the info we've been offered, it appears that President Pride had no interest or intent in doing so whatsoever - her plans now seem quite disingenuous. I agree with the other poster who mentioned that this entire situation was handled very poorly and quite unprofessional - how sad. And this is from people of higher education and an institution of higher learning? ??? ::) :P I wouldn't be surprised if some people would say that President Pride is the female counterpart (well...almost ;D) to the infamous and misguided Robert Hutchins of the University of Chicago history i.e. 1939. :o ::) :P :P ;) ;D :o
I can speak from a very strong standpoint on President Pride and her views on football. She does not and never did like football except what it brought to the table in terms of MALE NUMBERS. That is ALL she cared about! In 1995 the program had 112 kids in the program at the start and finished with 103 (look it up). A FULL JV schedule was played that year (6 games) versus schools in a reasonable distance (Millikin, Illinois College, MacMurray twice, Washington U. of St. Louis, and Eureka). That JV went 4 - 2, losing only to Millikin and Eureka. The varsity that year had its best year ever beating IC and Mac for the 1st time ever. After that year Pride did everything she could to undermine the staff and the players. To those alums still furious over this LADY TZAR's decision ask her this - What happened to her co-hort and neighbor, the financial manager, a couple of years ago? Why did he leave? Was he fired because of some, oops, FINANCIAL MISMANAGEMENT as is being talked about EVERYWHERE in Macoupin County? She and he and his wife were always seen EVERYWHERE in Carlinville and surrounding areas but now, whoa Nelly, he's gone, questions about where did the monies go abound, and no one especially Tzarina Pride will answer any questions other than, well we need to come up with 1.3 million to balance the budget! Ok, so you remove football and say $200,000 (and thats debateable according to sources) so what else do you cut to get the rest of the 1.3 million?!?!? Tell me at a college of 600+ where it comes from?!?!?! And then you say you are going to add monies amounting to close to the same amount of $200K to add JV to other sports?! Fellas, someone is LYING HERE quite obviously and like former Prez Nixon, someone is covering someone's ASS! To former Blackburn players I say, MAKE PRIDE ANSWER QUESTIONS!!! PUSH HER INTO A CORNER!!! The press release sent out by the conference was conjured up by HER AND THE Blackburn Press Office which she DIRECTLY OVERSEES and MONITORS EVERY RELEASE FROM!!! EVIL LURKS and someone needs to answer MORE than what has been said. I speak as a former employee of BC - and I speak as an INFORMED person who has talked with those at the college - THERE HAS BEEN A MAJOR GAFF MADE AND SHE IS COVERING UP! Pursue it!!! HARD!!!
Sounds like there are possibly some additional underlying "issues" from what you relate and how this situation was handled including in the media. If what you say has any potential question of underlying foundation, I would hope that the local legal authorities as well as the universities Board of Trustees and the school's alumni would pursue these troubling allegations and/or suspicions. Indeed, the elimination of the football program is a disappointing action, not just for the act of the sport itself and the student-athletes involved, but also, IMO, for the entire student body of the school. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, transpires further both at BC and perhaps even the league with regard to all this. I'm sure you guys here on the SLIAC will keep us updated, if/when that occurs. Again, just a sad situation as I see it.
Addendum:
I would also like to be perfectly clear regarding my last post. I am not, in any way whatsoever, saying that any alleged suspicions, accusations, etc., have any merit or truth. My comments were only in personal general response to the other comments posted. I would also add, however, that I would caution you IllinoisCoach to be very careful in any public statements you make regarding such so as to not open yourself to liable and/or slander. You have the right to your opinion, yet, I'm sure you are aware (at least I hope you know ;)), that you need to be cautious as to exactly how you express those opinions and how. Just some unsolicited advice and, again, MO.
it does seem as if they are getting away with murder here. i mean i knowits not quite that extreme, but with all the fuss that has been brought up about it, its weird that there hasnt even been a whisper by admin that maybe it could have been a mistake. they just dont care. end of story, and thats what doesnt seem right to me
Just to fill everyone in, Coach Neal, The head baseball coach and assistant football coach is going to be gone after this baseball season, also Coach Frazier, the head volleyball coach and head softball coach will also be gone. Blackburn is slowly taking steps to ruin what is best at that college. If you guys get bored or since you cant write much more about blackburn football, feel free to stop by the sliac baseball board and leave some love for coach neal or any comments about sliac baseball. ALL are welcome!
I read in the Post this morning that Principia is suspending its football program for the 2009 season. This creates scheduling issues for the other SLIAC members.
Yep, just found this link, http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9142786/DIGEST---LOCAL- (the Principia part is half way down). That's too bad. Looks like that blows the automatic qualifier until at least 2012 now. I was wondering what was up with several of the schools posting on the open dates page for both week 4 and 5. With an odd number of teams the open dates would have been spread through all weeks. Made me wonder if something like this might be up.
Another link about this - http://www.thetelegraph.com/sports/football_22848___article.html/program_prin.html
WOW... This is def. not good for the conference. Are their any other teams in the region looking for a football conference? Is it to late for teams to find other opponents for their open dates, or will they only play 7 or 8 games? How many teams have to be in the conference for an auto? Hopefully the SLIAC can figure something out.
Here is my suggestion that I posted on the Pool B board. It may not be too late to pull this off. If the UMAC and SLIAC core schools are interested in working towards a Pool A bid under someone's "flag", then a quick meeting this spring could begin the process.
QuoteQuote from: Hawks88 on January 28, 2009, 10:48:37 AM
With Blackburn announcing last week that they are dropping football and now it looks like Principia is doing the same at least for this year (http://www.thetelegraph.com/sports/football_22848___article.html/program_prin.html), what will that do to Pool B? Seems like it was borderline this past year. Does it look like we might drop to two bids for '09?
Wow! Do we call this the "Blackburn Domino"?
-Blackburn drops football.
-Principia reconsiders the success of its football program when one of the less-successful programs in its conference drops the sport, and decides to suspend the sport.
-The remaining 4 SLIAC schools see how tenuous their position is.
-Pool A status for the SLIAC was projected for fall 2010. The proverbial goal post just got moved into the future.
I recommend that the SLIAC and the UMAC go back to the table.
The 5-team UMAC and the 4-team SLIAC (plus 2 affilitates) can align along one conference's core. Declare a divisional champion in single round-robin play. Play the Dome Day games to declare the conference champion which can be the "Pool A Bid" team after two seasons of this format. The NEFC has used this for its Pool A bid. This format preserves the Pool A bid for these schools. Principia would have a viable conference in which to resume its program.
(In the pipeline for provisional status are these football playing schools: William Jewell MO, Hastings NE, Doane NE and Concordia NE. Each of these schools is going thru the observational year in 2008-09. They could be full members in 2013-14.)
It's anyone's guess right at the moment as to how the SLIAC might handle this now unfortunate situation. Ralph's proposal/suggestion has merit; yet what other possibilities do any of you see concerning the AQ for the league (such as any other schools coming in or again, perhaps Ralph's idea is the best option for the two leagues right now).
Although I saw it mentioned in the previous posts here, I was kind of hoping (no pun intended ;D) that the "rumor" of Principia going the same route as Blackburn was not true. As of last evening, there was nothing posted on their athletic website to indicate that, however, as we now know, Pat has posted an article announcement here on D3fb.com. While Principia did have a rather difficult situation in only having 30 players on its roster this past season, still I am surprised they chose this option. There have been other DIII schools with extremely low turnout for rosters in past years and somehow, they have managed to survive and eventually improve the program. I thought perhaps Principia would do the same, particularly in view of the fact that it was stated in the article by their spokeperson that $ was not "the issue". On the other hand, I can understand, to a degree, perhaps the difficulty in recruiting student-athlete fooball players in view of the Christian Scientist affiliation although I am in no way saying and/or intending that in a negative conotation whatsoever - there is nothing wrong with that (in fact, I didn't recall/remember that - as it had been quite some time - a long time - since I read the history of that school as I often do - guess I must have forgotten that. Nonetheless, it that aspect i.e. affiiliation doesn't matter.
It is always sad to see programs dropped. Perhaps Principia will look into reinstating the program in some future year, although not so for Blackburn. Yet as for Principia, it appears they do not desire to work on recruiting and strengthening the program at this current time. We'll have to wait and see what transpires with the league and the AQ.
Ralph - maybe you should run for league commissioner/lobbyist?!! :D ;D ::)
I only saw Principia play once. They were a gutsy, but overmatched bunch. I hope they can come back.
Blackburn's president sounds sexist. Maybe she wants to turn it into a girls school.
formerd3db, thanks for the kind words!
I made the comments to spark some thought among the brain trust in the SLIAC.
I love the conference and Pool Structure for D-III. The Key to D-III is participation by the student-athlete. Having an AQ conference is a goal for student-athletes among peer institutions.
Realistically, winning the conference and making the playoffs is the key! There is just a degree of excitement and accomplishment.
As for a level of competition, these two conferences are as close to peer conferences as we have in the Midwest. They are small faith-based liberal arts institutions. Across D3, we have seen schools add sports when there are games and a conference-structure available. This initiative between two conferences that have football programs will grant better access to the playoffs. Pool B is too unpredictable. The answer is simple. Commit to an AQ conference and move forward.
Principia is trying to field a team. They have had national success in other sports, so they understand what to do. I respect their decision because their reasoning seems well-considered.
I really hope that these schools can work out something towards the Pool A. Detractors may complain about the quality of the bid, but once again, participation is the key in D-III!
Quote from: Gray Fox on January 29, 2009, 07:58:45 PM
I only saw Principia play once. They were a gutsy, but overmatched bunch. I hope they can come back.
Blackburn's president sounds sexist. Maybe she wants to turn it into a girls school.
I agree, and i bet if we went and surveyed the blackburn athletes, they would agree too!
Ralph:
You are most welcome and once again, your opinions/comments are very well thought out and common sense reasoning as you always do. I couldn't agree with you more on your philosophy and particularly the "key to DIII". Let's hope that those two conferences can work something out as you outline. There is no reason not too - it can only benefit them all the way around. We'll see what transpires, if anything, in the next few months before pre-season rolls around in August.
Speaking of the conference, I look at a school like Eureka. They are no different with regard to size and facing the challenges in intercollegiate football than Blackburn and the others. Eureka has a neat historic campus, a neat history in intercollegiate football (as do many of our DIII schools) and despite their small size of school and resultant recruiting base, they have managed and are focused on continuing and providing a great experience for their student-athletes. The school student body seems to support them and, IMO, I don't care if 200-500 people only show up at a game there, it is still exciting small college football and that says alot. We could cite many other small schools as similar examples around the country in DIII - Olivet in our conference is one yet it has made tremendous strides in recent years, made the commitment and has a stable program for a very historic fb program. While it does take $, there are ways to do it and if schools like Eureka and Olivet can do it, so can others. Again, hopefully Principia will be able to return at some point in the future (as Ralph has pointed out), although again, from what info has been offered/we've heard, it does not appear that will happen at Blackburn. Again, IMO, very sad. I'm glad a school like Eureka "stays the course" despite the challenges in keeping a coaching staff intact for stretches. Then again, I guess I'm just a "traditionalist" and love the history involved as well as a minor tangent to all this i.e. aside from the great experience it provides for their student-athletes and other students and the community.
It is a shame about Principia
i sit on the visitors side at Huntingdon Home games...in a lounge chair. i get to strike up conversations with visitor boosters, hard core sidline walking Huntingdon fans, etc
the Principia folks were real real nice. they had some very good athletes, several would have started for any team we played , the problem was they had to go both ways. Huntingdon was (as usual) rotating DB's DL and LB's, wideouts, RB's almost every series... i guess , really the only ones that we don't rotate every 4-8 downs are the OL and QB, but those kids from Principia were out there against fresh legs..EVERY DOWN
that day our starting QB and an all SLIAC OL tackle didn't dress, we did dress ~120 kids and all played ... a bunch... Coach Turk tried to call off the dogs after the first quarter, but thier folks were tired, and well not quite use to our climate..
they were real tough, but just ~ 25 players dressed. one of their managers/nurses/pt's told me they were very competitive in all sports but football. she said ( just before the kick off with us) they were considering suspending football
i wish them well
i would hope Huntingdon could find a home conference closer to the south...but ..u gots to do what u gots to do
keep the faith
That pretty well describes what I saw. They were competitive until near the end of the half. Then those guys going both ways couldn't keep up.
Quote from: AF4 on January 30, 2009, 12:19:39 PM
i would hope Huntingdon could find a home conference closer to the south...but ..u gots to do what u gots to do
Agree...SLIAC is a good conference, though Principia and Blackburn dropping football definitely hurts the conference. But something in the South would be ideal. Unfortunately, the chances of LaGrange and/or Huntingdon into the Southern Collegiate (SCAC) is non-existent. The SLIAC is our only option until some teams like Shorter, Belhaven, Cumberland, Faulkner etc. decide to make the eventual move to the NCAA. If and when that happens, we could have a good little football conference. I'm sure LaGrange would like to see Webber Intl. from Florida move over too, since we've been recruiting Florida heavily.
LC ...we agree
i see u r about a yr away from practice... my oldest daughter, her husband, and younger brother (15 yrs my junior) all r in private practice, my oldest neice is 2nd yr at georgetown law, her brother (nephew) is at uga, and my youngest (the one at Huntingdon) is pre law........ i did somthing wrong ???
i really help raise them all (except my son in law)none of them wanted to treat horses for a living >:(
good luck...and keep the faith
Hey all,
I was just poking around seeing if anyone had anything showing on their website yet that approaches a complete schedule for '09 and under 'Future Schedules' Westminster has, among a bunch of TBA's, something listed for week 9(Oct. 31) called SLIAC/UMAC Challenge. Anybody know what that is?
Go Hawks!!
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 07, 2009, 10:39:36 PM
Hey all,
I was just poking around seeing if anyone had anything showing on their website yet that approaches a complete schedule for '09 and under 'Future Schedules' Westminster has, among a bunch of TBA's, something listed for week 9(Oct. 31) called SLIAC/UMAC Challenge. Anybody know what that is?
Go Hawks!!
Good quesiton. Look here.
http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=3565.216
And here.
This is the old Dome Day!
http://www.d3football.com/phlog/2006/10/28/UMAC+Dome+Day+(Week+9+part+1)
With 6 teams in the SLIAC and five in the UMAC, I wonder how it will be run. Do LaGrange and Huntingdon play in the south and save the travel?
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 08, 2009, 12:58:00 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 07, 2009, 10:39:36 PM
Hey all,
I was just poking around seeing if anyone had anything showing on their website yet that approaches a complete schedule for '09 and under 'Future Schedules' Westminster has, among a bunch of TBA's, something listed for week 9(Oct. 31) called SLIAC/UMAC Challenge. Anybody know what that is?
Go Hawks!!
Good quesiton. Look here.
http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=3565.216
And here.
This is the old Dome Day!
http://www.d3football.com/phlog/2006/10/28/UMAC+Dome+Day+(Week+9+part+1)
With 6 teams in the SLIAC and five in the UMAC, I wonder how it will be run. Do LaGrange and Huntingdon play in the south and save the travel?
If you go to the standings page and look at 2009 the UMAC has Trinity Bible listed there, sooo ??? ???
Brother Hawks88
the Faulkner web site has us on thier web site for a football game on september 12, 2009
nothing as yet on ours
another interesting note... on the faulkner site, they show they signed 10 seniors from Stanhope-Elmore.... thats a bunch from one highschool... wow, were they that good this yr ?
keep the faith
Quote from: AF4 on February 08, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
another interesting note... on the faulkner site, they show they signed 10 seniors from Stanhope-Elmore.... thats a bunch from one highschool... wow, were they that good this yr ?
keep the faith
Third in their region, pounded by Opelika in first round of playoffs. So... not that great.
Go Hawks!!
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 08, 2009, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: AF4 on February 08, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
another interesting note... on the faulkner site, they show they signed 10 seniors from Stanhope-Elmore.... thats a bunch from one highschool... wow, were they that good this yr ?
keep the faith
Third in their region, pounded by Opelika in first round of playoffs. So... not that great.
Go Hawks!!
Hey, they are getting "athletic schloarships"...$100.00 off tuition in the fall semester and a $50 gift card to the school's book store!
Ralph... from what i hear out of there... you are probably right on the money
they hired a good coach (i thank) so i was expecting some changes...but ????
keep the faith
Westminster (http://www.westminster-mo.edu/athletics/sports/football/Pages/FutureSchedules.aspx) and Greenville (http://www.greenville.edu/athletics/football/schedule/) have partial schedules posted. Neither has that SLIAC/UMAC Challenge that was on Westminster's page a couple of days ago.
Found out this weekend that Huntingdon has gotten a game with Louisiana College to replace one of the drops and still hoping to find a tenth game.
There is also apparently a trip to Wisc.-Oshkosh as a return from the home game we had with them in '07.
Go Hawks!!
Hero Hawks88
have u seen the schedule...or a portion of it (other than Faulkner) ?
i am trying to set my work schedule based around the Huntingdon Football Schedule ???
thanks
and
Keep the Faith
AF4,
We went to the basketball game Saturday since I had still not seen the gym since it was redone a couple of years ago(very nice). Got to talk people who know and if I understand correctly, these are the first four;
Sept 5 - at Maryville
Sept 12 - Faulkner
Sept 19 - at Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Sept 26 - Louisiana College
From their websites I've found these two;
Oct 17 - at Westminster
Oct 24 - Greenville
I didn't find out the whens and wheres of the rest of the conference games and they are still looking for one more non-conference game.
Hawks88
as usual...U R THE MAN
thanks
Roland is nice (the boy says they no longer call it 'The Brick House' :(
keep the faith
man the cutting of these programs really hurt the sliac. i wish the best of luck to all the sliac teams and hope you find somewhere to go so you can have that playoff possibilty.
Hawks88-Brother
i been tooooo long on the road lately
anyword on the schedule...finalized ???
keep the faith
I haven't heard of anything being finalized. There was something about talks with South Alabama about a possible game but I don't know how far that has gotten.
thanks
Huntingdon just released their 2009 schedule this weekend.
9/5 Maryville Maryville, Tenn. 12:30 p.m.
9/12 Faulkner Samford Stadium Noon
9/17 Wisconsin-Oshkosh Oshkosh, Wisc. Noon
9/26 Louisiana Co. Samford Stadium Noon
10/3 Eureka * Samford Stadium Noon
10/17 Westminster * Fulton, Mo. Noon
10/24 Greenville * Samford Stadium Noon
10/31 LaGrange * Samford Stadium Noon
11/7 MacMurray * Jacksonville, Ill. Noon
11/14 South Alabama Mobile, Ala. 4 p.m.
Any word on where the Principia or Blackburn players, who want to continue playing football, have transferred. Maybe the question should be: Are any of them transferring? We could use some of the better ones up here in the West Region. I perceive it would be a different intensity to football than to which they are familiar. The schools in the IIAC, MIAC, and WIAC take their football quite seriously. For some of the players that might be a welcomed change.
Hawks88
saw it, thanks
south alabama is gonna b good with mostly fresh and soph's...they recruited perty these past 2 yrs
pray yall r well
keep the Faith
Warthog
All but maybe 3 players have or are transfering. Several are going to MacMurry. 1 or 2 Followed Asst. Coach to his new head coaching job in MO.(St Joe i think). Others to bigger schools (not as player's).
Several past alum's & benifacters have changed there wills, and or pulled back promised money to the school ,over the last 6 month's. Because of the actions by the President,(not just cutting football).
The college has had to hire a new person to try and raise money and change people's minds on not giving.
I wish the board would wake up and get a new President. If they did I am sure the donations would start flowing in.
I heard a rumor that MacMurray may be closing the whole school.
Quote from: mac_7_seven on March 24, 2009, 08:25:06 PM
I heard a rumor that MacMurray may be closing the whole school.
That would, indeed, be tragic. BTW, check out the latest article on the main front page of this website - Colorado College drops football. Shocking and sad, although, perhaps in reality not surprising. Hopefully, MacMurray can remain viable and also maintain their fb program. Keep us posted on what you may hear in the near future.
Quote from: formerd3db on March 24, 2009, 10:50:10 PM
Quote from: mac_7_seven on March 24, 2009, 08:25:06 PM
I heard a rumor that MacMurray may be closing the whole school.
That would, indeed, be tragic. BTW, check out the latest article on the main front page of this website - Colorado College drops football. Shocking and sad, although, perhaps in reality not surprising. Hopefully, MacMurray can remain viable and also maintain their fb program. Keep us posted on what you may hear in the near future.
The article says that Pricipia and MacMurray dropped football but should read blackburn. Pat know something more than hes allowed to say?
No, other than it's already fixed.
I have heard the MacMurray rumors for a couple years now and I think I had them on the brain.
mac_7_sever, I have heard that too for the past couple of years actually
Hi folks. Haven't been by in a while. Hope y'all are having a good off-season. Sorry to hear about Principia and Blackburn.
LaGrange posted their schedule last week.
http://lagrange.edu/athletics/football/news/2008/news_31909_schedule_released.htm
2009 LaGrange College Football Schedule
Sept. 5 BIRMINGHAM-SOUTHERN Home 1 p.m.
Sept. 12 Shorter (NAIA) Away 1 p.m.
Sept. 19 MARYVILLE, TN Home 1 p.m.
Sept. 26 WESLEY Home 1 p.m.
Oct. 3 Lincoln (D-II) Away 1 p.m. (CST)
?? Oct. 10 # MacMURRAY Home 1 p.m.
?? Oct. 17 # Eureka Away 1 p.m. (CST)
?? Oct. 24 * # WESTMINSTER Home 1 p.m.
Oct. 31 # Huntingdon Away 1 p.m. (CST)
?? Nov. 7 # Greenville Away 1 p.m. (CST)
hope yall have had a good off season
good looking schedule for lagrange, Wesley-lincoln-shorter will all b tough non conference games.... not that the rest of them will b easy
good luck and keep the faith
MacMurray Football moves to Upper Midwest Athletic Conference in Fall 2009
MacMurray College Football Highlanders will compete in the Upper Midwest Athletic Conference (UMAC) after spending one-year under the St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (SLIAC). Read more
Any truth to this? I got this from Mac's web site. Story will not open on site.
Quote from: mac_7_seven on March 31, 2009, 10:24:01 AM
MacMurray Football moves to Upper Midwest Athletic Conference in Fall 2009
MacMurray College Football Highlanders will compete in the Upper Midwest Athletic Conference (UMAC) after spending one-year under the St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (SLIAC). Read more
Any truth to this? I got this from Mac's web site. Story will not open on site.
I see that too, here's the link(http://www.mac.edu/news/index.asp) to the page of news releases but I also can't get to the rest of the story. I guess that would mean that they are dumping the SLIAC schedule and we all have to go find another game again? That stinks. Also wonder if they are the only one doing this?
I emailed the SID and webmaster. I hope they fix it soon.
I don't see it on there now at all.
2009 is really, really short notice for a school to pull out of a conference schedule. And since MacMurray has to play a SLIAC schedule in the rest of its sports, that's a big deal.
You are right. It is gone. They never even wrote. :'(
Yes they removed it from the site. Think they jumped the gun because nothing was on either conference web page? Typical Mac though never respond to anyones question.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 31, 2009, 12:08:25 PM
2009 is really, really short notice for a school to pull out of a conference schedule. And since MacMurray has to play a SLIAC schedule in the rest of its sports, that's a big deal.
This is what I was thinking when I wondered if they were the only one pulling out.
I asked the SLIAC for comment and got a response with a decline to comment.
That in and of itself doesn't mean anything in particular, could be that Mac is doing it but hadn't let the league know, or that there's some re-merger talk, or none of the above.
According to my son, their AD was notified yesterday (Tuesday) that the SLIAC would not be sponsoring football THIS year. His coach has no idea whether any team, other than Huntingdon, will honor their commitment to play this year either.
Thanks SLIAC >:(
Let's see if the story is the same on April 2nd as it was on April 1st. ::)
As for football, I still maintain that the UMAC SLIAC affiliation will be the most successful, and that the GSAC schools should affiliate with the USA South. A UMAC-SLIAC affiliation will have a Pool A bid in 2 years after the affiliation.
I hate that Huntingdon and LaGrange are caught in the middle of this, but that looks like what is happening.
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on April 01, 2009, 11:12:13 PM
According to my son, their AD was notified yesterday (Tuesday) that the SLIAC would not be sponsoring football THIS year. His coach has no idea whether any team, other than Huntingdon, will honor their commitment to play this year either.
Thanks SLIAC >:(
I got a fairly boilerplate statement from the UMAC which didn't answer the specific question but said basically that they are always looking for new membership to ease scheduling concerns and provide a route to the AQ.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 01, 2009, 11:20:19 PM
Let's see if the story is the same on April 2nd as it was on April 1st. ::)
As for football, I still maintain that the UMAC SLIAC affiliation will be the most successful, and that the GSAC schools should affiliate with the USA South. A UMAC-SLIAC affiliation will have a Pool A bid in 2 years after the affiliation.
I hate that Huntingdon and LaGrange are caught in the middle of this, but that looks like what is happening.
His coach is not the joking type. My son was pretty disappointed when he talked to me a little while ago.
I understand what you are saying about affiliations and I sure didn't like traveling all the way to Illinois for all those games last year, but to do this on such extremely short notice is just plain low class. And what kind of message does it send to these young men?
I was told Tuesday that our schedule was still set but that there is no SLIAC. I looked and several of the UMAC teams have 2009 schedules posted that don't include the SLIAC teams so I don't think there will be any games dropped at this point or there would be a bunch of schools besides HC and LC left hanging.
I do think this has been in the works for a while. Remember when Blackburn and Principia had just made their announcements and we were told that the conference schedule would have to be redone, a few days later Westminster had a schedule posted with Dome Day for week 9. When the new conference schedule came out, it had HC and LC playing each other week 9 and the others that had schedules posted had week 9 open. Now Eureka has posted a schedule with Dome Day week 9 and Greenville has Northwestern showing in week 9. Westminster doesn't show Dome Day yet but still shows week 9 open with 9 games on the schedule.
Not sure what all this means except we probably still have ten games but I am assuming that the ex-SLIAC games might not be considered in region at this point since it isn't going to be an actual conference. That would leave HC with 4 region games and LC with 3 or 4(does BSC count yet?). Not good. Maybe something could be worked out to swap some SCAC teams in there.
I wouldn't go by any posted schedules at this point.
I am told that as of yesterday, the coach did not know if the former SLIAC teams (other than HC) would honor their commitment to play the games on the schedule. He was waiting to hear from them by COB today.
He told the boys that he would see to it that they play ten games, one way or another.
I think you are right though, the games played with them will technically be viewed as out of region. Really stinks for HC and LC.
If they were going to do this, they should have had the guts to announce it sooner.
BSC counts this year as a regional game.
Correct. LC would have 4 in region games:
Sept. 5 BIRMINGHAM-SOUTHERN Home 1 p.m.
Sept. 19 MARYVILLE, TN Home 1 p.m.
Sept. 26 WESLEY Home 1 p.m.
Oct. 31 # Huntingdon Away 1 p.m. (CST)
Assuming the four former-SLIAC teams honor their commitment, the would 4 more out of region DIII games pluse one NAIA and one DII:
Sept. 12 Shorter (NAIA) Away 1 p.m.
Oct. 3 Lincoln (D-II) Away 1 p.m. (CST) (I think this was added after Principia and Blackburn dropped football)
?? Oct. 10 # MacMURRAY Home 1 p.m.
?? Oct. 17 # Eureka Away 1 p.m. (CST)
?? Oct. 24 * # WESTMINSTER Home 1 p.m.
?? Nov. 7 # Greenville Away 1 p.m. (CST)
Almost seems like HC and LC would be better off divorcing completely this year if they can get games with SCAC schools.
SLIAC wouldn't like what they saw if they looked in a mirror. >:(
At last check, Wesley had only eight games. You mentioned the SCAC schools, they are definitely possible targets.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 02, 2009, 03:13:45 PM
At last check, Wesley had only eight games. You mentioned the SCAC schools, they are definitely possible targets.
Good option for HC. Wesley is already on the LC schedule.
Anybody else in the South looking for games?
LaGrange might want to think about playing Wesley twice. Seriously.
This looks like a bit good news. Huntingdon's hasn't been updated yet but Birmingham-Southern(http://www.bscsports.net/schedule.aspx?path=football&) is now showing HC @ BSC on 11/7.
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 03, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
This looks like a bit good news. Huntingdon's hasn't been updated yet but Birmingham-Southern(http://www.bscsports.net/schedule.aspx?path=football&) is now showing HC @ BSC on 11/7.
My son told me that he heard that HC was not going to wait on the former SLIAC schools and that they were just going to start scheduling new games. Looks like that is the case.
Does it strike you as odd that the only schools with fans discussing this are HC and LC? Where are the folks from Illinois and Missouri?
LC & HC need to throw in with the USA south
the boy that grew up at my house (son or 'the boy') was miffed by all this, as we couldn't vie for a conference cahmpionship next season... but we didn't get one last season (LC saw to that)
all this will work out
yall keep the faith
Quote from: mac_7_seven on March 31, 2009, 01:06:01 PM
Yes they removed it from the site. Think they jumped the gun because nothing was on either conference web page? Typical Mac though never respond to anyones question.
Now,now Mac_7_seven.... be nice. :)
well fellers..what yall thank we ought to do ?
should we stay here or should the Hawk-Panther contingent head back over to the South independent board?
Hawks88...what u say ?
Forgotten Man... any ideas?
Pat Coleman...u gonna shut this one down ?
so... (with respect to The Clash) Should we stay or should we go? :D
keep the faith
Waiting for someone with one of the two conferences to actually make an actual announcement first.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 13, 2009, 12:12:03 PM
Waiting for someone with one of the two conferences to actually make an actual announcement first.
Yeah, I can't believe nothing has been announced yet. I mean, it's out there, so let us know something official already.
Quote from: AF4 on April 13, 2009, 12:09:21 PM
well fellers..what yall thank we ought to do ?
should we stay here or should the Hawk-Panther contingent head back over to the South independent board?
Hawks88...what u say ?
Forgotten Man... any ideas?
Pat Coleman...u gonna shut this one down ?
so... (with respect to The Clash) Should we stay or should we go? :D
keep the faith
AF4,
It's probably time to head on back to the south independent board. Has the boy heard anything about the schedule? I wonder how many of the SLIAC teams we will end up playing. Birmingham-Southern has updated their schedule with a game against us. I've been checking the other SCAC websites but no one else has any changes.(At some point during the day Millsaps has added @HC on 10/10)
Go Hawks!
hero Hawks88
the boy says that all is still being decided... we shall see
i pray yall r well
keep the faith
My son said that the last heard was that the SLIACkers were still going to play, but they would not commit in writing.
As far as I'm concerned, if the SLIAC has folded then I'm all for a Southern Indpendent's board.
Official:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2009/04/16/1653/sliac-drops-football-again-umac-absorbs-five.html
I'm merging the SLIAC board into the UMAC board. That means there will be more IBFC posts on that board than UMAC posts. Pretty sad board, that one.
Shame on the sliac for handling this so damn poorly. >:(
Presentation to added football in 2011
http://www.umacathletics.com/News/football/2009/4/23/FBPresFB2011.asp?path=football
That's great news. Based on the support that their baseball and basketball teams have received from presenation and the aberdeen community, they won't have much trouble getting a competitive program going.
FS- Chance Attaway-5'11 210 4.4 Florida International University and Valdosta State University
SS-Corey Silcox-5'11 227 4.5 Troy University and Valdosta State University
CB-Ishmeal Grant-6'2 195 4.3 South Florida and Western Arizona Junior College
Silcox and Attaway are my cousins. These guys would get several wins for this program. Everyone of those guys where top 100 players in florida their senior year. Grant is the 78th rated player in junior college this year and Silcox and Attaway were rated 5 star recruits by max emfinger. Not very familiar with d3 football. How big a difference can these guys make?
If these guys are truly good and they come in expecting to work hard and not just roll over people because "it's just Division III" then they could have a big impact.
The UMAC is pretty far down the list of conferences in Division III, so they might be able to just walk in and dominate, but you can't do that in a stronger conference.
What are division III players like? what is the average size, speed, and strength of a DIII defensive back. I think they will work hard, they were all just disapline problems at their other schools. I believe they have matured a bit since then tho.
Quote from: FlaSouth on May 01, 2009, 12:56:18 AM
What are division III players like? what is the average size, speed, and strength of a DIII defensive back. I think they will work hard, they were all just disapline problems at their other schools. I believe they have matured a bit since then tho.
Dubuque is a D3 school with a history of bringing in Florida kids. The last few years they have had 40+ Florida kids on the roster. One of the big problems has been getting kids from states like Florida and California that played at big high schools to realize that D3 is a good level of football and will take a lot of work to succeed at this level. Another thing that has hurt retention with Florida kids is the small population in the midwest and the cold weather. If you can get the kids to know this beforehand that is a good start. Dubuque has had some D1 and D2 transfers that got playing time, but didn't set the world on fire and didn't even make all-conference in the IIAC. For DB's there isn't much of a size difference that I see between D1 and D3. Where I see a difference is at LB a D1 LB will be 6'3 and 245, at D3 a LB will be 5'11 and 205 and half a step slower.
The UMAC is one of the weaker D3 conferences. If these kids you know have been playing at a higher level, they could probably do well from the beginning at this school. But they would still need to work hard against their competition. And be prepared for some losing, a new program won't be winning games at the beginning. Something the Florida kids at Dubuque didn't want to go through.
There is usually a reason "D1" kids find their way back to D2 or D3. Not all were truly D1 types whether it is actual ability or ability to perform at that level. Some can't grasp the offense or defense. Some don't want to work. Bear this in mind...mostly D1 players look first to move to another D1 FBS school or at worst to a FCS (1-AA) school. I find it hard to believe D3 is the first choice.
Some, however, can be victim of circumstance such as a former University of Utah QB, who by circumstance (injury and success of replacement) found himself out of the lineup and found his answer was to play at Linfield, a strong D3 program in Oregon. But the key is that Linfield already had a strong team...the UMAC schools honestly can't compare to a school like that...and this kid played QB...a high impact position.
IMHO, it is harder for a DB to have as profound an impact...That said I can't see why any team wouldn't be pleased to have that kind of athlete coming to school.
I can agree with that. The reason they are going d3 is because they are out of chances basically.
Grant graduated from hs in 05. didnt qualifty, went to juco, went back to south florida, didnt qualifty again. went back to juco, and now hes d3.
Silcox graduated in 06. went to troy 2x, went to valdosta for a year and wasnt eligible.
Attaway graduated in 06. went to fiu, got pt and transferred to valdosta. then he was not elibible.
Attaway and Silcox basically made horrible decisions after their childhood friend Michael Guilford died in a motorcycle accident. He was the scout team qb for the University of Florida.
Im hoping they will do good though. Grant is a gamebreaker, he is a decent corner but the reason scouts love him is his special teams ability.
Attaway is more of a Reggie Nelson type safety, hes big enouph to make big hits but his best attribute is how much ground he can cover in the secondary. ran a 4.4 at the nike combine.
Silcox is more of Roy Williams type of safety. He is a strong blitzer and can really lay the boom. he set the db record for bench reps a the nike combine with 41 when he was 16.
FlaSouth:
Game breakers or not; if these guys had academic shortcomings in D1 or D2 they will be one year and out at any D3 school with a shread of academic integrity.
well i hope these guys make it. who else does macmurray have on there roster?
Looks like there has been a coaching change at MacMurray with Jake Box replacing Kyle Sweeney. Anyone have any insight? All it mentioned was that he left for a different coaching job.. Thanks!
Quote from: mac_5_seven on July 28, 2009, 11:59:19 AM
Looks like there has been a coaching change at MacMurray with Jake Box replacing Kyle Sweeney. Anyone have any insight? All it mentioned was that he left for a different coaching job.. Thanks!
dont know why he left, but according to the football main page he landed at the U of chicago
I just found a season preview for Greenville so thought I would pass it along......sounds like Greenville will have a strong team this year. http://www.emapnation.com/
Quote from: gcfan on August 24, 2009, 02:14:11 PM
I just found a season preview for Greenville so thought I would pass it along......sounds like Greenville will have a strong team this year. http://www.emapnation.com/
My nephew will be scrimmaging them on sunday, he is at Millikin, thanks for the info and good luck this year
Quote from: gcfan on August 24, 2009, 02:14:11 PM
I just found a season preview for Greenville so thought I would pass it along......sounds like Greenville will have a strong team this year. http://www.emapnation.com/
Greenville fans should subscribe to Kickoff here on D3football.com. Season preview and a featured Q&A with coach Eric Hehman.
http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/
Pat - I subscribed earlier this evening great coverage, great magazine - thanks!
Quote from: gcfan on August 24, 2009, 02:14:11 PM
I just found a season preview for Greenville so thought I would pass it along......sounds like Greenville will have a strong team this year. http://www.emapnation.com/
Very spirited scrimmage. You guys have some great athletes at rb, qb and linebacker. I found the misdirection as hard to follow as the Millikin D at times. I dont see a current roster on line but you what looked to me to be the 2 biggest NT Ive seen at this level. The the thinner of the 2, 93 i think was alot of fun to watch. From what I know of the UMAC, which is just 3 teams, you should have a very succesful season.
thanks for the info old......I am a GC alum and worked for the Football Team as a student manager, however I am now living in Washington state so unfortunatly won't make any GC games this year
Depending on where you live, you could get your D3 fix from Whitworth, PLU or UPS. If you're in Southwest Washington, you could come to games at the Oregon colleges. We are all hospitable to visitors.
listening to the Greenville/Washington University game on the internet.....
Greenville is going with a no-huddle offense and using two quarterbacks...#10 Austin Teer and #8 Joel Lira
5:00 left in first half and the score is 0 to 0
At the half....Greenville 7 - Washington University St. Louis 0
Greenville Quarterback #10 Teer hit Tight End #88 Zach Friedrich for a 19 yard td pass with 4 seconds remaining
Greenville 14 - Wash U STL 0
#39 Linebacker Jumaane Bey returned an interception 25 yards for a TD
at the end of 3 quarters Greenville 14 - Wash U STL 0
touchdown Wash U - Greenville 14 - Wash U 7
Do you know there's live video of this game? There's a link on our Scoreboard page.
http://www.d3football.com/schedule/2009/1.html
!:26 remaining....Greenville hits a field goal...Greenville 17 Wash U 7
its a final.....Greenville 17....Wash U STL 7.....this was the first ever victory for Greenville over the Bears.
It would have been nice if Eureka, Greenville, and MacMurray had reported their scores from yesterday's games so they appeared on the UMAC website. As of 12:50 p.m. EDT on Sunday they are missing. That would never have happened under the SID Eureka fired this summer, that almost always happens with MacMurray, but I'm surprised Greenville's isn't there because they have a good SID. It was nice that gcfan posted updates here but someone else needs to get on the ball.
This league (the SLIAC too) has a hard time competing with other D3 conferences on the field or court but someone ought to be able to pick up a telephone or go to a computer and report a score.
If the UMAC had chosen Presto it would have been able to harness the power of our score collection machine and all of the scores would have been posted last night, either by an SID or by D3football.com.
I usually communicate on the North Region board, but I have a question about St. Scholastica (who played Concordia Chicago last Saturday).
I knew that this is only their second year of playing intercollegiate football, but upon checking their online roster I noticed that basically their whole roster this year is made up of freshman and sophomores. I would have thought that before they played a varsity schedule that they might play a year or two of a "junior varsity" schedule. I am assuming they did not do this, and that last year during their first year they played mainly only freshmen(?). If that was the case, I would have to say that CSS's inaugural year of football was impressive despite only having one win.
If someone could fill me in on their young program and school I would appreciate it (besides the fact that they have a first-rate baseball program).
Not many schools go the JV route before launching a varsity program.
Just noticed something interesting on the Northwestern website. They are hosting an internet chat session with head coach Kirk Talley starting at 11 this Friday. Here's the link. (http://www.nwceagles.com/news/2009/9/14/FB_0914092107.aspx)
Congrats to Greenville on the win.....19 to 18 over Rose Hulman
Eureka College is the best team in the umac conference and they will show it this year and years to come, the program has done a complete 360
Quote from: humblepie on October 02, 2009, 09:28:43 PM
Eureka College is the best team in the umac conference and they will show it this year and years to come, the program has done a complete 360
Um... a 360 would put you facing exactly where you started! You might want to try a 180. :D
[Or a 540 or 800, if you're not afraid of getting dizzy! ;)]
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 02, 2009, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: humblepie on October 02, 2009, 09:28:43 PM
Eureka College is the best team in the umac conference and they will show it this year and years to come, the program has done a complete 360
Um... a 360 would put you facing exactly where you started! You might want to try a 180. :D
[Or a 540 or 800, if you're not afraid of getting dizzy! ;)]
I think you mean 900 in this case (360+360+180). 800 would send you wandering off into the wilderness.
Congrats to Greenville on their 20 - 13 win at Eureka yesterday, GC is now 3-1 and 1-0 in conference
at the half....Greenville 18 - MacMurray 8
Did that game end?
I was wondering that for a while myself....I live in Washington state and listened to the game online during my lunch break from work. By the time I got off for the day, the game was over....I checked several sites...ie: the respective schools, the UMAC website, d3football.com......finally I did the score on the scoreboard page this AM.
Just wanted to give a hats off to the Greenville team for today's game. Even down in the 4th quarter, the sideline was still cheering/chanting for the guys on the field. I was very impressed by the spirit they showed to the end. You've got a group you can really be proud of.
Congrats to All the UMAC teams on Dome Day......way to go Greenville on their 26 - 20 win over Northwestern!
I think we've got ourselves a football conference here. I was just watching the webcast here and there, but I sure can't remember a dome day with this many close, well-played games.
It would be difficult for games to be much closer than they were -- a combined 17 points. At the end of regulation, 11 points separated the 10 teams in the five games. An excellent day of football -- I never felt like the day was dragging or was too long.
Quote from: inside_knowledge on November 04, 2009, 12:02:19 PM
Someone please tell me about Presentation College......can you win there? No game/practice field, no "typical male" majors, no program quite yet? Is it going to be a successful place, or a UMAC team that bites the dust? Any knowledge would be great!!!
Presentation has been pretty successful recruiting baseball and basketball players. They do have a business major for those not interested in nursing or teaching. As the only d3 football team in S.D. they would have a unique product. I'd be surprised if they weren't able to get up to the level of morris and crown within a couple years.
as long as we're sharing information here, how about divulging some "inside knowledge" from the wife of a recruiting coordinator? ;D Does Morris have any gamebreakers committed for 2010?
**Edit** Looks like I scared away the insider.
Shocker.
Congrats to Greenville on their win yesterday afternoon....they finished the regular season with a 7-2 record......they have been selected to play in the NCCAA Victory Bowl and will host Geneva College (PA) this coming Saturday the 21st!!!
Congrats, gcfan! Good luck in the Victory Bowl.
Didn't even notice until you posted this that GC had beaten LaGrange yesterday.
Thanks Hawks....congrats on a good season for Huntingdon and good luck in the playoffs!
It looks like Greenville will have a new Head Coach next year.....Eric Hehman has taken the Head Coach job at Malone University in Canton, Ohio.......Defensive Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach Ordell Walker has been named Interm Head Coach.....a search will start in January for the permanent HC.
January 27th, 2010.....Greenville College has named Ordell Walker as the th HC in school history
Presentation College names Andrew Carr as their 1st HC. He was the run game coordinator and O-line coach at D2 SW Minny St. He should be somewhat familiar with Aberdeen as Northern St is in Aberdeen as well.
This news is on the front page of this site...I just figured there should be SOME posts on here every few months ;)
I see St. Scholastica played aspring game against a team of Manitoba All-Stars in Winnipeg. I'm curious. Did they play American rules or Canadian rules? I see they played at the CFL Blue Bombers' stadium so I assume the field had Canandian dimensions. Did anyone score a rouge?
Anyone got a heads up on what Greenville returns this year...and how they might do???
No reply in a month....am wondering if noone has the answer...or noone gets on here
They will be very strong on Offense. Have returners at every position including UMAC South Offensive player of the year at RB and a strong OL that has 4 seniors and 5 players that saw a good amount of time last year. On Defense they lost a lot, esp. on the DLine, but the players they do return are very solid and can be bulit around by incoming players. Early reports show that over 100 players will show up for camp. They will have another very good season.
Quote from: footballguy72 on July 08, 2010, 11:43:49 PM
They will be very strong on Offense. Have returners at every position including UMAC South Offensive player of the year at RB and a strong OL that has 4 seniors and 5 players that saw a good amount of time last year. On Defense they lost a lot, esp. on the DLine, but the players they do return are very solid and can be bulit around by incoming players. Early reports show that over 100 players will show up for camp. They will have another very good season.
Thank you FBGUY72...
I have a new interest in the school and am just trying get an early report...
FBGUY72...Any idea how many new recruits Greenville is expecting...or how many new freshman they usually bring in?
they'll probably have about 50 new players, mixture of freshman and transfers. heard they'll have about 110 players on day 1.
Former Wabash wide receiver Andrew Rode has left Anderson University as the wide receivers coach. He has accepted an offensive GA position coaching receivers at Greenville College.
Greenville College entered the UMAC Conference just last year.
2009 Record: 7-3, 3-0 UMAC South
After running parallel routes throughout the 2009 season, the UMAC's North and South Divisions will merge into one league with one division in 2010, meaning the members of all nine teams will fight for one set of all-conference awards. Just one year after that in 2011, the UMAC is expected to receive its automatic qualifier (AQ) into the NCAA Tournament.
Greenville's first game against Augustana has been changed to friday at 7 PM instead of Sat at 1 PM....It will be held in Edwardsville as there is still work being done on their field. More details to follow on the exact location. Also a chance of a change on the following 2 home games for Greenville as well.
Dad.....thanks for the info.....
I just saw on the GC Football blog....www.emapnation.com that Greenville has 118 players scheduled to report for training camp......55 returners and 63 newcomers with the newcomers coming from 14 different states
Thank you on the www.emapnation.com...I had not seen that before...I like it!!!
I just noticed some more changes to the Greenville schedule (they are doing work on the field so had to make adjustments)...The September 11th game against Anderson will still be a "home" game but that will also be played at Edwardsville HS about 35 Min. West of Greenville. The September 18th game against Albion has been changed from a home game to a road game at Albion.
Quote from: gcfan on August 17, 2010, 08:09:41 PM
I just noticed some more changes to the Greenville schedule (they are doing work on the field so had to make adjustments)...The September 11th game against Anderson will still be a "home" game but that will also be played at Edwardsville HS about 35 Min. West of Greenville. The September 18th game against Albion has been changed from a home game to a road game at Albion.
That does change some plans for me as I was planning on being at the first three games at home...now with Albion away I will have to relook at it...
Good luck to all the team this year!
per the UMAC website (umacathletics.com.....the coaches conducted their preseason poll.....
1. 58 points Greenville (5 first place votes)
2. 51 points Martin Luther
3. 48 points Northwestern College
4. 46 points Westminster College (3 first place votes)
5. 34 pionts Crown (1 first place vote)
6. 33 points College of St. Scholastica
7. 26 points Eureka
Two teams tied for 8th with 14 points a piece MacMurray and Minnesota-Morris
Quote from: gcfan on September 01, 2010, 10:15:26 PM
per the UMAC website (umacathletics.com.....the coaches conducted their preseason poll.....
1. 58 points Greenville (5 first place votes)
2. 51 points Martin Luther
3. 48 points Northwestern College
4. 46 points Westminster College (3 first place votes)
5. 34 pionts Crown (1 first place vote)
6. 33 points College of St. Scholastica
7. 26 points Eureka
Two teams tied for 8th with 14 points a piece MacMurray and Minnesota-Morris
Greenville has the target on their backs...
Make em all Panther's Prey!!!
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Panthers Pray!!!
At the end of the 1st quarter.....Augustana 7 - Greenville 0
At the half........Augustana 14 - Greenville 0
at the end of the 3rd quarter Augustana 21 - Greenville 7
Final score Augustana 28 - Greenville 7
At the half......Greenville 24 - Anderson 13
Greenville running back Anthony Ambers is having a good game so far....18 carries for 119 yards
At the end of the 3rd quarter Greenville 31 - Anderson 13
Final Greenville 41 - Anderson 35......Ambers for Greenville finished with 252 yards on 30 carries
Congrats to Greenville a their first win this season!!!
Very Nice...
Wow, Mac got pounded this weekend...
Pat - like the new site layout!
start of the 2nd half......Millikin 13 - Greenville 6
congrats to Greenville on their first conference win over Martin Luther 10-9
Congrats to Greenville on their big 35 - 7 win over St. Scholastica. The long bus ride from Duluth should be nice. It looks like Anthony Ambers had a big day rushing with263 yards rushing.
Congrats to Greenville players Running Back Anthony Ambers and Defensive Back James Binder on making the d3football.com team of the week!!!
Congrats to Greenville players Running Back Anthony Ambers and Defensive Back James Binder on making the d3football.com team of the week!!!
Was a great game after a 654 mile one way bus trip...
That is what you call...gettin off the bus running...
Big win for Greenville today for Homecoming/parents weekend.....Greenville 50 - MacMurray 7
Congrats to Greenville on another great win at their Homecoming this weekend...
Also...congrats to the freshman QB number 15 on his first run of his career...hello to mom and dad as well...hope you found this site....
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Possible defensive play of the year by Dave Kleiner against Morris. Watch here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3nbPx685C8), or sideline angle here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXtTDE2_-lw).
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Great win for Greenville with a 30 to 21 win over Westminster!!!! GC has won 4 in a row and take on Crown on Friday night in the Metrodome as part of UMAC Dome Day!
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Quote from: AO on October 19, 2010, 01:19:48 AM
Possible defensive play of the year by Dave Kleiner against Morris. Watch here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3nbPx685C8), or sideline angle here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXtTDE2_-lw).
Great article in the paper (http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/106219673.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUo8cyaiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr) today about Dave.
At the half....Greenville 28 - Crown 7
Congrats to Greenville on the 51 to 20 win over Crown!!! This win was their 5th in a row and clinches the UMAC conference championship. In addition Greenville is still alive for a possible spot in the Victory Bowl!
Congrats to Greenville on locking the Conference Championship on Friday night against Crown...
Was an amazing performance of over 600 yards on offense and 534 yards of that on the ground...
Wouldn't it be great if they got the Poll B Bid the NCAA Playoffs!!!!!
what a great game dad! Yes it would be wonderful to see the team make the NCAA playoffs!
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Quote from: gcfan on October 31, 2010, 10:35:26 PM
what a great game dad! Yes it would be wonderful to see the team make the NCAA playoffs!
Not to burst the bubble, but they have essentially no shot at a playoff birth. Congrats on the UMAC crown though.
Quote from: gcfan on October 31, 2010, 10:35:26 PM
what a great game dad! Yes it would be wonderful to see the team make the NCAA playoffs!
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Read statistical spotlight for this week...also take a look at the poll on the main webpage and vote for Greenville...
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 02, 2010, 08:30:16 PM
Quote from: gcfan on October 31, 2010, 10:35:26 PM
what a great game dad! Yes it would be wonderful to see the team make the NCAA playoffs!
If you are not connected yet...try the following website...
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Read statistical spotlight for this week...also take a look at the poll on the main webpage and vote for Greenville...
Stop trying to stuff the ballot box,Dad. I congratulate GC for a great season and a conference champion . 534 yards is quite a performance for a rookie running backs coach who played wide receiver in college. Maybe he told them that "Greenville Always Fights" Congratulation,coach, and I hope for a slot in the playoffs for the Pa.nthers.
Quote from: wab64 on November 03, 2010, 10:47:35 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 02, 2010, 08:30:16 PM
Quote from: gcfan on October 31, 2010, 10:35:26 PM
what a great game dad! Yes it would be wonderful to see the team make the NCAA playoffs!
If you are not connected yet...try the following website...
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Read statistical spotlight for this week...also take a look at the poll on the main webpage and vote for Greenville...
Stop trying to stuff the ballot box,Dad. I congratulate GC for a great season and a conference champion . 534 yards is quite a performance for a rookie running backs coach who played wide receiver in college. Maybe he told them that "Greenville Always Fights" Congratulation,coach, and I hope for a slot in the playoffs for the Pa.nthers.
There is no chance for a birth in this years playoffs...and I know that...I am very familiar with how it works....When I said an outside chance.....that is exactly what I meant....outside the realm of normal possability....
Yes a great season for Greenville and next year they will get the the AQ for the conference...so if they can do it next year...they could get in...
Another great performance for Greenville in their 62 to 27 win over Eureka on Senior Day. Senior Running Back Anthony Ambers had a huge game....30 carries for 385 yards and 4 touchdowns!
GREENVILLE COLLEGE...UMAC CHAMPS
We've got Regional Rankings... Final time for the season that we'll see them:
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My deepest heartfelt congratulations to Anthony Ambers... Senior running back from Greenville College finished the regular season as the #2 running back in all of Division III in Yards Per Game...He retires his football career with an amazing accomplishment...
I list below the top 25 running back which shows just how great the numbers are...
Congrats Anthony!!!
Division III National Player Report
Rushing
Year: 2010 Thru: 11/13/10 Minimum Pct. of Games Played 75
Rank Player Pos Cl Gm Carries Net TDs Avg Ydspgm
1 Jim Bower, Maine Maritime RB SR 10 224 1779 19 7.94 177.90
2 Anthony Ambers, Greenville RB SR 10 213 1573 18 7.38 157.30
3 Khyree Copeland, Concordia Chicago RB SR 10 237 1566 18 6.61 156.60
4 Shea Dwyer, Wesleyan (CT) RB SR 8 218 1242 11 5.70 155.25
5 Dion Wilson, Millikin RB SR 9 238 1361 11 5.72 151.22
6 Chris Coney, Union (NY) RB SR 8 218 1177 8 5.40 147.13
7 Jason Gwaltney, Kean RB SR 10 254 1412 8 5.56 141.20
8 Clinton Orr, Albion RB SO 10 251 1396 14 5.56 139.60
9 Logan Flannery, Bethel (MN) RB SR 10 212 1379 14 6.50 137.90
10 Jeremy Murray, Mount Union RB JR 9 216 1166 16 5.40 129.56
11 Ben Guiles, Lebanon Valley RB JR 10 251 1285 17 5.12 128.50
12 Matthew Rende, Maine Maritime QB JR 10 170 1248 16 7.34 124.80
13 Levell Coppage, Wis.-Whitewater RB JR 9 183 1121 15 6.13 124.56
14 Luke Heinsohn, Wash. & Lee RB SO 10 179 1243 11 6.94 124.30
15 Brent Donley, Ohio Northern RB SR 10 222 1242 13 5.59 124.20
16 Justin Autera, Cortland St. RB SO 10 211 1232 17 5.84 123.20
17 Caleb Jennings, Emory & Henry RB SR 9 183 1099 10 6.01 122.11
18 Scottie Williams, Elmhurst RB SO 10 218 1220 14 5.60 122.00
19 Josh Kleinfelter, Lycoming RB SR 10 216 1212 8 5.61 121.20
20 Dan Griffin, Salisbury QB SO 9 173 1069 13 6.18 118.78
21 Randal Smedley, Salisbury RB JR 8 115 947 9 8.23 118.38
22 Brendan Leiran, Coe RB SO 10 200 1179 9 5.90 117.90
23 Evan Bunker, Trinity (CT) RB FR 8 193 938 4 4.86 117.25
24 Keith Welch, Lewis & Clark QB FR 9 134 1055 14 7.87 117.22
25 Matt Cook, Delaware Valley RB SR 10 221 1159 16 5.24 115.90
Thanks Dad I was privileged to see Mr Ambers in action against St Scholastica on 9 Oct and to meet hisw running back coach-- the Bash Warrior himself. Ambers was the best I've seen in action since Wooster's Tony Sutton. The best to the Panthers and their coaching staff-way to go Andrew-Bash Warrior
Some great recruits committing to Greenville College...lookin to make another run at conference champs...but this season that comes with something more than a conference champs ring...comes with the AQ...Automatic Qualifer for the National Playoffs...
Sorry if that has been stated in here lately, but how did the former "SLIAC" teams perform this season in the UMAC? I see that ambers had one heck of a year for greenville.
Sporting News 2011 College Football issue is out. Pre-season D3 rankings are:
1. UW Whitewater
2. Mt. Union
3. Wesley
4. St. Thomas
5. Mary Hardin-Baylor
6. Linfield
7. North Central
8. Wittenberg
9. St. John's (MN)
10. Montclair St.
Other mid-west teams of interest:
11. Wheaton
12. Wartburg
15. Bethel
23. Coe
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on June 01, 2011, 07:23:48 PM
Sporting News 2011 College Football issue is out. Pre-season D3 rankings are:
1. UW Whitewater
2. Mt. Union
3. Wesley
4. St. Thomas
5. Mary Hardin-Baylor
6. Linfield
7. North Central
8. Wittenberg
9. St. John's (MN)
10. Montclair St.
Other mid-west teams of interest:
11. Wheaton
12. Wartburg
15. Bethel
23. Coe
Thank you!!!
Looks as though Greenville has at least 55 new recruits coming from the postings on their website...
Heading toward that AQ this year...lots of hard work ahead...
Thanks for the info Bashdad.....from what I have read, it sounds like a good group of guys coming in
Who is going to win the UMAC and the AQ this year?
Here's a question for the UMAC board.
Since this is the first year of the AQ, which UMAC teams that are likely to finish in the top half of the league and play a quality nonconference (recent or potential playoff) opponent?
This could be a good preview and gauge of how well the AQ might fare in the playoffs.
I know NWC plays Saint John's early. SJU finished 3rd in the MIAC last year and lost their starting QB, but they are always in the thick of things in a very tough conference.
Any other marque matchups with the top teams?
Quote from: hazzben on August 02, 2011, 11:08:39 AM
Here's a question for the UMAC board.
Since this is the first year of the AQ, which UMAC teams that are likely to finish in the top half of the league and play a quality nonconference (recent or potential playoff) opponent?
This could be a good preview and gauge of how well the AQ might fare in the playoffs.
I know NWC plays Saint John's early. SJU finished 3rd in the MIAC last year and lost their starting QB, but they are always in the thick of things in a very tough conference.
Any other marque matchups with the top teams?
The answer to the first two questions is Greenville, despite their loss of a number of big contributors to graduation and the fact that their quality non-conference opponent was 1-6 in their conference last year. Unfortunately, The UMAC teams decided to adopt a 9-game conference schedule limiting our ability to compare conferences. 8 of the 10 UMAC teams also managed to avoid scheduling anyone from the IIAC, MIAC, WIAC, or CCIW for their only non-conference game.
Quote from: AO on August 02, 2011, 01:51:58 PM
Quote from: hazzben on August 02, 2011, 11:08:39 AM
Here's a question for the UMAC board.
Since this is the first year of the AQ, which UMAC teams that are likely to finish in the top half of the league and play a quality nonconference (recent or potential playoff) opponent?
This could be a good preview and gauge of how well the AQ might fare in the playoffs.
I know NWC plays Saint John's early. SJU finished 3rd in the MIAC last year and lost their starting QB, but they are always in the thick of things in a very tough conference.
Any other marque matchups with the top teams?
The answer to the first two questions is Greenville, despite their loss of a number of big contributors to graduation and the fact that their quality non-conference opponent was 1-6 in their conference last year. Unfortunately, The UMAC teams decided to adopt a 9-game conference schedule limiting our ability to compare conferences. 8 of the 10 UMAC teams also managed to avoid scheduling anyone from the IIAC, MIAC, WIAC, or CCIW for their only non-conference game.
You're right, that doesn't give us much to go on for 2011.
Greenville's losses to Auggie and especially Millikin aren't much to go on from 2010. Auggie was middle of the pack in the CCIW and Millikin was 2nd to last. With only Millikin on the docket for 2011 it probably won't answer any questions. Unless Millikin wins and ends up in the cellar of the CCIW again. But all of that is assuming Greenville grabs the UMAC AQ.
Any idea who'll push Greenville in the UMAC?
UMAC an option for Jamestown College?
http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/event/article/id/50081/group/Sports/ (http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/event/article/id/50081/group/Sports/)
Might need registration so here are the basics:
They are looking at Frontier, which would mean travel to Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Utah. That way they could stay NAIA.
But the UMAC would we much better for travel.
Says the school prez:
"We can't get into a situation where we have just this wrenching, seemingly impossible schedule where we're criss-crossing the country. It'd be nice if we had a 747, but we don't. That would put us at a place where athletics were above academics and that's not a decision Jamestown College is ever going to make."
per emapnation.com (Greenville Football website) they had 112 players check in for training camp.....Greenville will also unveil new Nike uniforms, they look sweet!
Quote from: repete on August 03, 2011, 01:26:13 PM
UMAC an option for Jamestown College?
http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/event/article/id/50081/group/Sports/ (http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/event/article/id/50081/group/Sports/)
Might need registration so here are the basics:
They are looking at Frontier, which would mean travel to Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Utah. That way they could stay NAIA.
But the UMAC would we much better for travel.
Says the school prez:
"We can't get into a situation where we have just this wrenching, seemingly impossible schedule where we're criss-crossing the country. It'd be nice if we had a 747, but we don't. That would put us at a place where athletics were above academics and that's not a decision Jamestown College is ever going to make."
It's also a question of competition and affiliation. Do they value being NAIA and giving scholarship? Do they want to play in a conference which boasts some of the top teams in its respective division (i.e. Carroll in the Frontier)?
And travel between NoDak and central Missouri (13-14 hours) isn't exactly close either. But those would be the two travel outliers I suppose.
Interesting to see how this develops. Any thoughts from the UMAC crew if the league would be interested in adding Jamestown?
Quote from: hazzben on August 17, 2011, 03:15:22 PM
It's also a question of competition and affiliation. Do they value being NAIA and giving scholarship? Do they want to play in a conference which boasts some of the top teams in its respective division (i.e. Carroll in the Frontier)?
And travel between NoDak and central Missouri (13-14 hours) isn't exactly close either. But those would be the two travel outliers I suppose.
Interesting to see how this develops. Any thoughts from the UMAC crew if the league would be interested in adding Jamestown?
I think Jamestown would be welcomed. A d3 version of the Jimmies would probably look similar to their closest UMAC rivals Presentation and Morris.
Go Greenville...starting off another great season...
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saw this on the UMAC website, the 2011 coaches poll was released today
1. 81 Points - Greenville College (9 First Place Votes)
2. 73 Points - College of St. Scholastica (1)
3. 57 Points - University of Minnesota Morris
4. 55 Points - Martin Luther College
5. 50 Points - Westminster College (Mo.)
6. 38 Points - Crown College
7. 36 Points - Northwestern College (Minn.)
8. 33 Points - Eureka College
9. 14 Points - MacMurray College
10. 13 Points - Presentation College
Go get 'em Greenville. Best of fortune to the Panthers-start with Milliken and run the table.
Congrats to College of St. Scholastica and their win over Greenville...and Greg Carlson on building a program there...
So, if St. Scholastica wins out....who do you think they will get first round of the playoffs? I'm kinda hoping UST (or whoever represents the MIAC) just for selfish reasons, have a few friendly bets going with some of my friends that play there and my HS coach.
We would love to host St. Scholastica out at THE CATDOME.
Greenville guy and I will be rooting for St. Scholastica to earn the UMAC some respect next weekend!
Congratulations to the Saints on securing the 7 seed in the Delaware Valley Bracket. Pretty impressive going from no program to NCAA tournament in 4 years.
Ok. So what can we expect from CSS in the first round at St. Thomas?
Quote from: tommiegun on November 14, 2011, 10:07:23 AM
Congratulations to the Saints on securing the 7 seed in the Delaware Valley Bracket. Pretty impressive going from no program to NCAA tournament in 4 years.
Ok. So what can we expect from CSS in the first round at St. Thomas?
*crickets chirping
I think the crickets are dead.
If both teams come to play (translation: UST isn't looking past CSS) I'd say UST wins by at least 35 points. We might even be talking double monkey stomp territory.
CSS has done an great job creating a program and making it to the playoffs so quickly. That said, the playoffs is a whole new animal. The intensity increases noticeably, a change UST has experience with. That and CSS's played no one this year that is remotely as good as UST. While I'd wager UST has played a handful of teams that are probably better than the Saints.
It could be a long day on Saturday. But those first year playoff lumps can certainly be the seeds of future playoff success if a team and coach learn from them. Bethel can certainly attest to that.
Quote from: hazzben on November 15, 2011, 05:09:20 PM
If both teams come to play (translation: UST isn't looking past CSS) I'd say UST wins by at least 35 points. We might even be talking double monkey stomp territory.
CSS has done an great job creating a program and making it to the playoffs so quickly. That said, the playoffs is a whole new animal. The intensity increases noticeably, a change UST has experience with. That and CSS's played no one this year that is remotely as good as UST. While I'd wager UST has played a handful of teams that are probably better than the Saints.
It could be a long day on Saturday. But those first year playoff lumps can certainly be the seeds of future playoff success if a team and coach learn from them. Bethel can certainly attest to that.
I think the idea of UST scheduling a WIAC team and St. Norbert's early is to get an idea of the talent level/style of play they'd be dealing with in the playoffs outside of teams they know well (SJU, Bethel, Concordia, St. Olaf). They're wise not to go full-tilt and schedule a NCC/Linfield type team early because the MIAC is pretty strong, and that kind of intensity early I don't think is beneficial. From what I can tell, CSS has not scheduled a program of UST's ilk in their history, so I think it will be an eye-opener. I'm looking forward to it, they have a talented bunch up in Duluth it seems.
The Tommies have ugly uniforms. And since they are not a Benedictine school, they are inferior.
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on November 17, 2011, 08:27:02 PM
The Tommies have ugly uniforms. And since they are not a Benedictine school, they are inferior.
I'm surprised the Toms haven't gone all out like Oregon with 15,000 different uniform combinations.
They're certainly closer to the Ducks than any other D3 team. Boy, I sure wish we could dress up our football players like a bunch Ken Dolls.
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Quote from: SagatagSam on November 18, 2011, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on November 17, 2011, 08:27:02 PM
The Tommies have ugly uniforms. And since they are not a Benedictine school, they are inferior.
I'm surprised the Toms haven't gone all out like Oregon with 15,000 different uniform combinations.
They're certainly closer to the Ducks than any other D3 team. Boy, I sure wish we could dress up our football players like a bunch Ken Dolls.
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Just want to look nice when we TRIPLE MONKEY STOMP the Johns.
Quote from: USTBench on November 18, 2011, 05:04:08 PM
Just want to look nice when we TRIPLE MONKEY STOMP the Johns.
Just so we're clear, 63-7 is no TRIPLE MONKEY STOMP. 63-0, yes, but not 63-7! :D
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Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on August 05, 2012, 04:12:19 PM
Best of luck to the Greenville College Panthers this year as they open camp later this week...[
How's it looking? They're picked as a pretty strong favorite to win the UMAC. EC is looking good, according the talk, but I'm a little worried about us offensively. Going to be tough to make up for losing Schmidgall and Hess, and while I like Dawson, he's not a power back. However, our defense will be very tough up front, secondary is always a question. That said, I think we can finally finish with a winning record if the chips fall right. This conference is always wide open--that's what makes it a good fit for us despite the travel.
Less than a week until start of the season, can't wait!
ANYONE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THE 2012 TOP 25 FAN POLL (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7065.msg1434525#msg1434525):
Please send me a PM with your ballot. I'd like to get a preseason poll up by Thursday night.
During the season ballots shall be due by Tuesdays so I can get them up Tuesday night.
Remember, this is just fun and we aren't part of the BCS Formula... yet ;D
Sam Durley of Eureka College broke the ALL TIME single game passing record today with 736 yards in a 62-55 comeback win over Knox College!!
Quote from: ecreddevils on September 01, 2012, 08:29:31 PM
Sam Durley of Eureka College broke the ALL TIME single game passing record today with 736 yards in a 62-55 comeback win over Knox College!!
And D3football.com was there. :)
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 02, 2012, 12:39:53 AM
Quote from: ecreddevils on September 01, 2012, 08:29:31 PM
Sam Durley of Eureka College broke the ALL TIME single game passing record today with 736 yards in a 62-55 comeback win over Knox College!!
And D3football.com was there. :)
Excellent Pat! I love that you guys are intentional to visit teams that fall far outside the Top 25 and bring them coverage as well. And how great that you got to see such a great game and offensive shootout! Good stuff.
Just driving by to say hi.
To fans of D-3 football everywhere. I am honored to have been asked to spread the word regarding a new cancer fund that has been established to help Tom Pattison, UW-W sports broadcaster and founder of www.warhawkfootball.com I and my family know, all to well, how a cancer diagnosis can be devastating to a families daily lives and finances. Please, consider making even the smallest donation to Tom.
The following is an open letter by Retired UW-W Coach Bob Berezowitz:
Team Tom Cancer Fund Drive established
Once a Warhawk, always a Warhawk are the often spoken words by Tom Pattison, longtime "voice" of the Warhawks. Over the many years of broadcasting UW-Whitewater football, basketball and baseball games on KOOL 106.5 (and prior to that (940 WFAW), Tom has "bled purple" during each one of his broadcasts.
Unfortunately, on May 28, 2012 Tom was diagnosed with advanced stage 2 colon cancer. He underwent colorectal cancer surgery in Fort Atkinson and in the process has developed astronomical hospital and medical bills.
Tom has already gone through the first phase of radiation treatment at the UW Cancer Clinic along with chemotherapy with phase two starting later this month.
Tom has given his heart and soul to Warhawk athletics over his 25 years of living here in southern Wisconsin. He served six years as the president of the UW-Whitewater Quarterback Club and still serves on the club's board of directors.
In 2003 Tom founded Warhawkfootball.com where Warhawk fans, players, former players and parents have been able to view up-to-date Warhawk football news and information 365 days a year. Nearly 1.5 million visitors have clicked onto the Website over the years.
The Website that has been funded entirely by Tom has been a popular "voice" for Warhawk football fans not only locally but around the world.
Well now Tom needs your assistance in his battle with cancer.
With the help and leadership of UW-Whitewater Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Dr. Paul Plinke and former Warhawk football coach Bob Berezowitz and KOOL 106.5 Radio a team has been set up to lead a campaign to raise funds for Tom.
The "Team Tom Cancer Fund" has been established through Commercial Bank in Whitewater and is now accepting donations.
Donations may be sent to: Team Tom Cancer Fund, c/o Commercial Bank, 200 South Freemont St. Whitewater, WI 53190
The fund raising drive will also include Tom Pattison Day at Perkins Stadium on Oct. 6, 2012. More details will be announced shortly.
"I have known Tom for many years while coaching and now in retirement," Berezowitz said. "There is not another person who has given more of himself to help promote UW-Whitewater football. He is always writing articles for both past and present players that are published on his Website.
It is now our turn to say "thank you" for his efforts by considering making a donation to the to assist Tom in his time of need.
Go Warhawks,
Bob Berezowitz
UW-Whitewater Football Coach/Retired
Greenville wins on Saturday...
Quote from: AO on November 01, 2012, 12:30:55 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 01, 2012, 12:24:40 PM
Greenville wins on Saturday...
I disagree.
Who gets the bid if Greenville wins, or what is the tie-breaking criteria in the UMAC?
Quote from: WashedUp on November 01, 2012, 01:25:05 PM
Quote from: AO on November 01, 2012, 12:30:55 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 01, 2012, 12:24:40 PM
Greenville wins on Saturday...
I disagree.
Who gets the bid if Greenville wins, or what is the tie-breaking criteria in the UMAC?
It's not going to be necessary, but they would pick a name out of a hat.
II. NCAA Championship Automatic Qualifier ("AQ") Determination & Tiebreaker Criteria
A. Best conference record (based upon winning % of conference contests)
B. If two way tie then head-to-head result
C. If three-way tie then head-to-head results amongst three (2-0 advances)
D. If three-way tie without 2-0 record, then record against rest of conference standings in
descending order of finish (4th place, 5th place, etc.)
E.
Random draw (if three or more teams) or coin flip (two teams) by UMAC Commissioner
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 01, 2012, 12:24:40 PM
Greenville wins on Saturday...
impressive comeback, Scholastica must have been even more excited. Hopefully they aren't sent to Tommieland again.
Quote from: AO on November 03, 2012, 10:13:41 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 01, 2012, 12:24:40 PM
Greenville wins on Saturday...
impressive comeback, Scholastica must have been even more excited. Hopefully they aren't sent to Tommieland again.
Yes Greenville did win over Northwestern as I predicted...
The three way tie for Conference Championship ends with a random draw for the Automatic Qualifier on Saturday afternoon...Scholastica won the random draw and goes to the Playoffs on 11-17-12
Oddly both the remaining teams Greenville and Northwestern are both members of the the NCCAA (National Christian Colleges of America Association)...The NCCAA has a Victory Bowl game themselves which is awarded to the Top Seed (Greenville) who hosts the second seed (Northwestern)...so Greenville will host Northwestern in the Victory Bowl on 11-17-12.
Note: This puts Greenville in the Victory Bowl two years in a row and winning Conference Championships in 2 of the last 3 years...also of note Greenville finishes their regular season ranked 4th Nationally in Rushing Offense as seen below...
Rank Name Games Carries Net Avg. TDs Ydspg Wins Losses Ties
1 Wash. & Lee 9 566 3578 6.32 41 397.56 7 2 0
2 Springfield 9 510 2886 5.66 32 320.67 6 3 0
3 Ripon 9 558 2864 5.13 32 318.22 4 5 0
4 Greenville 9 536 2826 5.27 30 314.00 7 2 05 Trinity (CT) 7 373 2106 5.65 19 300.86 7 0 0
6 Mary Hardin-Baylor 9 474 2700 5.70 34 300.00 9 0 0
7 Salisbury 9 494 2633 5.33 31 292.56 7 2 0
8 Norwich 8 401 2237 5.58 19 279.63 6 2 0
9 Chapman 8 375 2211 5.90 18 276.38 6 2 0
10 Mt. St. Joseph 9 422 2458 5.82 24 273.11 4 5 0
11 Gettysburg 9 445 2435 5.47 34 270.56 6 3 0
12 Sewanee 10 611 2704 4.43 20 270.40 3 7 0
13 Gallaudet 9 431 2420 5.61 26 268.89 6 3 0
14 Delaware Valley 9 408 2380 5.83 30 264.44 7 2 0
15 Mount Union 9 412 2376 5.77 32 264.00 9 0 0
16 Johns Hopkins 9 442 2317 5.24 35 257.44 8 1 0
17 Wis.-Oshkosh 9 445 2294 5.16 27 254.89 9 0 0
18 Merchant Marine 9 536 2272 4.24 25 252.44 4 5 0
19 Concordia-M'head 9 433 2254 5.21 25 250.44 7 2 0
20 Hobart 9 450 2206 4.90 32 245.11 9 0 0
21 Elmhurst 9 392 2203 5.62 26 244.78 8 1 0
22 Augsburg 9 358 2195 6.13 19 243.89 6 3 0
23 Maine Maritime 9 551 2193 3.98 18 243.67 0 9 0
24 Sul Ross St. 9 358 2179 6.09 26 242.11 4 5 0
25 St. Thomas (MN) 9 401 2154 5.37 27 239.33 9 0 0
26 Framingham St. 10 479 2391 4.99 26 239.10 9 1 0
27 Bridgewater St. 10 508 2372 4.67 23 237.20 9 1 0
28 Heidelberg 9 399 2125 5.33 24 236.11 8 1 0
29 Illinois Col. 9 384 2118 5.52 29 235.33 8 1 0
30 Redlands 8 355 1875 5.28 22 234.38 5 3 0
Greenville again?
Quote from: hazzben on November 17, 2012, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 07, 2012, 03:24:57 PM
also of note Greenville finishes their regular season ranked 4th Nationally in Rushing Offense as seen below...
The #4 ranking comes into a litter better focus when you consider two other stats:
Strength of Schedule & Strength of Conference
Rank Name SoS SoC
1 Wash. & Lee 47 14
2 Springfield 46 16
3 Ripon 134 20
4 Greenville 121 26
6 UMHB 48 06
7 Salisbury 26 04
8 Norwich 208 23
9 Chapman 211 15
10 Mt S. Joe 219 25
15 Mount Union 65 02
16 Hopkins 52 12
17 UWO 59 01
19 C-M'head 13 03
20 Hobart 120 16
21 Elmhurst 53 07
22 Augsburg 6 03
25 St. Thomas 36 03
So, taking account for the toughest schedules and toughest conferences, a more accurate sense of the elite running teams emerges.
In no particular order:
Wash & Lee; UST; UWO; Mount Union; Concordia-Moorhead; Elmhurst; Augsburg; Hopkins; Salisbury; UMHB; Springfield; Hobart. Each of these teams either played in an elite or above average conference or played against elite or above average competition, or both.
The rest either play in a bad conference or played very bad teams, or both. Doesn't mean they can't run the ball, but it does mean they were facing very subpar competition in racking up their stats.
Thank you Hazzbeen...I am well aware of all the stats you have produced...especially after 3 sons playing football with two at the collegiate level as well as one now a college coach and following Division III football since 1998....and it even includes many games at Bethel as one of my sons played center there...I know Steve Johnson to be a great coach and a good Man...
(BTW... one of the greatest games I have ever seen was Bethel /St John 2003...last game of the season for the championship...Bethel lost in the last 2 min when their QB was knocked out the game inside the 10yd line to go ahead...we all know St John went on to win the National Championship...)
But...statistics are still just that....
Bethel 24 Concordia 23....no one would have bet on that before the game...especially in light of the very stats you have provided (I watched the game online)
A quote I have seen on this site that I love...
Statistics are like bikinis...what they reveal is interesting...what they hide is essential
Greenville having a great recruiting year...with the same coaching staff all returning...Conference OPY returning...QB returning and host of skill players returning...along with greatly improving in the air this past season...I look for them to make another run at that National Playoff Automatic Qualifier...Would like to see the UMAC adopt and upgrade their thinking and policy on conference ties...there is higher ground than flipping a coin
Any UMAC fans out there? EC off to its best start in years. Should have beaten Greenville at home!
Current standings:
Greenville 4-0 5-0
St. Scholastica 4-0 4-1
Eureka 3-1 4-1
Northwestern (Minn.) 3-1 3-2
Martin Luther 2-2 2-3
Westminster (Mo.) 2-2 2-3
Iowa Wesleyan 1-3 1-4
Minnesota-Morris 1-3 1-4
Crown 0-4 0-5
MacMurray 0-4 0-5
Good race shaping up for the top spot. EC gets St. Scholastica at home, if we can win there we're right in the thick of it. Northwestern has St. S and G-Ville the next two weeks. They can really shake things up by winning one or both of those games.
Quote from: ecreddevils on October 07, 2013, 04:18:33 PM
Any UMAC fans out there? EC off to its best start in years. Should have beaten Greenville at home!
Current standings:
Greenville 4-0 5-0
St. Scholastica 4-0 4-1
Eureka 3-1 4-1
Northwestern (Minn.) 3-1 3-2
Martin Luther 2-2 2-3
Westminster (Mo.) 2-2 2-3
Iowa Wesleyan 1-3 1-4
Minnesota-Morris 1-3 1-4
Crown 0-4 0-5
MacMurray 0-4 0-5
Good race shaping up for the top spot. EC gets St. Scholastica at home, if we can win there we're right in the thick of it. Northwestern has St. S and G-Ville the next two weeks. They can really shake things up by winning one or both of those games.
If there were more people on this board I would follow it daily as I do the NCAC board in the North...I have had two sons play D3...one was at Bethel in the MIAC...the other at Wabash in the NCAC...the Wabash grad is now the OC at Greenville so I have been following Greenville and the UMAC for the past 3 seasons this being his 4th season coaching there...was at the Greenville/Eureka game on your field 2 years ago where Greenville came from behind to win...I was unable to be at your field for the game with Greenville this year but I would like to stay in touch with you about Eureka and the UMAC...looking forward to your posts ecreddevils
UMAC is getting interesting. Two undefeated teams and Eureka with one loss (by one point) should make for an interesting end of season. Did UMAC change the method of choosing a conference champ in case of a three way tie?
There are no good ways of selecting a champ when three teams tie with one loss, unfortunately. They are all various flavors of bad. Whether you reward a random draw or the team that runs up the score the most or whoever has been out of the playoffs the longest, it's really hard to come up with a way that allows the players to earn it on the field once they lose a game.
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on October 13, 2013, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: ecreddevils on October 07, 2013, 04:18:33 PM
Any UMAC fans out there? EC off to its best start in years. Should have beaten Greenville at home!
Current standings:
Greenville 4-0 5-0
St. Scholastica 4-0 4-1
Eureka 3-1 4-1
Northwestern (Minn.) 3-1 3-2
Martin Luther 2-2 2-3
Westminster (Mo.) 2-2 2-3
Iowa Wesleyan 1-3 1-4
Minnesota-Morris 1-3 1-4
Crown 0-4 0-5
MacMurray 0-4 0-5
Good race shaping up for the top spot. EC gets St. Scholastica at home, if we can win there we're right in the thick of it. Northwestern has St. S and G-Ville the next two weeks. They can really shake things up by winning one or both of those games.
If there were more people on this board I would follow it daily as I do the NCAC board in the North...I have had two sons play D3...one was at Bethel in the MIAC...the other at Wabash in the NCAC...the Wabash grad is now the OC at Greenville so I have been following Greenville and the UMAC for the past 3 seasons this being his 4th season coaching there...was at the Greenville/Eureka game on your field 2 years ago where Greenville came from behind to win...I was unable to be at your field for the game with Greenville this year but I would like to stay in touch with you about Eureka and the UMAC...looking forward to your posts ecreddevils
Great! EC/ St. Scholastica is a huge game in a couple of weeks. Greenville is shaky, Crown nearly bumped them. Hoping Northwestern can get it done on the road this week--if not Westminster is not an easy game, and could end up coming down to the GC vs. St. S on the last week of the season.
EC/Mac this weekend looks easy on paper, but Mac always plays us tough at their place, beating us 40-21 there 2 years ago with a team that was 0-8. Potential trip game, but I just don't think we let that happen this time.
I think EC, St. Schol., and Greenville should all win this week. Greenville might have the hardest game of the three this week. Hopefully EC and St. Schol. won't look past this week to their game next week.
Quote from: DevilDad on October 18, 2013, 02:52:42 PM
I think EC, St. Schol., and Greenville should all win this week. Greenville might have the hardest game of the three this week. Hopefully EC and St. Schol. won't look past this week to their game next week.
Glad to see more posting here...great competition this season
Top three tams win today. Next week's game between Eureka and St. Scholastica will be game to watch. A Eureka wins creates a two way tie for second and Saints win ties them for first place. Game is at Eureka so I think I will give them a slight edge because of the long drive down.
EC vs. St. S is indeed a huge game. EC defense is for real, although they gave up some big plays to lowly Mac on Saturday. The question for me is whether the offense can get back on track. A very weak Mac defense basically shut us out for the entire second half. That said, home field advantage is big here and I have to think EC finds a way to get this done, but it will be close.
If it happens, St. S vs. GC becomes huge in the last week.
Quote from: DevilDad on October 19, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
Top three tams win today. Next week's game between Eureka and St. Scholastica will be game to watch. A Eureka wins creates a two way tie for second and Saints win ties them for first place. Game is at Eureka so I think I will give them a slight edge because of the long drive down.
DevilDad Coach Carlson will have the Saints ready to play...I don't think you will have the edge...but rather a great "fight" to be faced...certainly is a blessing to be able to watch our sons play...
This is the biggest game the Red Devils have played in a long time. Coach Barth and players will be ready to the game. I am pulling for an Eureka win to say the least. Best of luck to both teams.
Greenville QB Brendan Chambers today
Rush 27 for 231 yds 3 TD
Pass 10/16 for 149 1 TD
380 yds
Another day at the office for him...he should get some credit... his career stats in D3 are fantastic...just sayin Pat
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on October 26, 2013, 05:12:43 PM
Greenville QB Brendan Chambers today
Rush 27 for 231 yds 3 TD
Pass 10/16 for 149 1 TD
380 yds
Another day at the office for him...he should get some credit... his career stats in D3 are fantastic...just sayin Pat
Coach Talley called him the best QB he's seen during his 20 years in the UMAC.
Quote from: DevilDad on October 26, 2013, 12:31:47 PM
This is the biggest game the Red Devils have played in a long time. Coach Barth and players will be ready to the game. I am pulling for an Eureka win to say the least. Best of luck to both teams.
St. S came out and established both sides of the ball early. I think losing the momentum so quickly really threw EC off of their game. Not sure if they were too hyped up or what. That said, the St. S. quarterback, despite being undersized, is very, very accurate and effective. On the plus side for EC, they pretty much played an even or better game from the middle of the second qtr. on, but the hole was too big to climb out of. Still, first winning record in 17 years is a great accomplishment and sign of progress for the program. Hoping for 8-2!
I agree with you 100%. St. S had great field position for the first half of th game and you can not ask a defense to stop offense that often. Hopefully the boys will play hard for the two games.
Only one game means anything this week. Greenville and St. Scholastica will play for the title and the AQ. Eureka will going for win number 8 this season and would become just the fourth team to win that many games in a season. On another note, congratulations to all the Seniors on every team who will be suiting up for the last time. I hope all these guys have enjoyed their experience.
Congrats to SSC...you have had agreat season...good luck in the playoffs
Any CSS or UMAC regulars that can give us the low down on what to expect come Saturday in Arden Hills?
Quote from: hazzben on November 18, 2013, 11:31:25 AM
...give us the low down on what to expect come Saturday in Arden Hills?
A blowout by Bethel. ;D
Quote from: DuffMan on November 18, 2013, 11:34:27 AM
Quote from: hazzben on November 18, 2013, 11:31:25 AM
...give us the low down on what to expect come Saturday in Arden Hills?
A blowout by Bethel. ;D
Would that be like the 1st round blowout of Concordia-Chicago?
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 18, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
Would that be like the 1st round blowout of Concordia-Chicago?
That was against the
MIAC runner-up Royals. This year, we're talking about the
MIAC champion Royals. ;D
Quote from: DuffMan on November 18, 2013, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 18, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
Would that be like the 1st round blowout of Concordia-Chicago?
That was against the MIAC runner-up Royals. This year, we're talking about the MIAC champion Royals. ;D
And, on the road... ;)
Really though, do I expect a blowout? Maybe not a blowout, but I think they'll win with a 2 - 3 score margin.
Maybe not though...CSS will probably have a playoff breakthrough eventually, why not now? They played a superior UWO team tough for a while before getting crushed last year.
BU had several years of one-and-done playoff trips before finally breaking through and going all the way to the semi-finals in 2007.
I'll be in attendance...hoping that the forecast stays dry, as it is for the moment!
I have a soft spot for CSS and UMD as my dad took me to
plenty of UMD football and basketball games, and lots of CSS basketball games while growing up in Duluth, but that will be on hold for Saturday, in CSS's case. Still pulling for the bulldogs.
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 18, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 18, 2013, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 18, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
Would that be like the 1st round blowout of Concordia-Chicago?
That was against the MIAC runner-up Royals. This year, we're talking about the MIAC champion Royals. ;D
And, on the road... ;)
Really though, do I expect a blowout? Maybe not a blowout, but I think they'll win with a 2 - 3 score margin.
Maybe not though...CSS will probably have a playoff breakthrough eventually, why not now? They played a superior UWO team tough for a while before getting crushed last year.
BU had several years of one-and-done playoff trips before finally breaking through and going all the way to the semi-finals in 2007.
I'll be in attendance...hoping that the forecast stays dry, as it is for the moment!
I have a soft spot for CSS and UMD as my dad took me to plenty of UMD football and basketball games, and lots of CSS basketball games while growing up in Duluth, but that will be on hold for Saturday, in CSS's case. Still pulling for the bulldogs.
They sure lost a good AD/HC last year!
Quote from: wartknight on November 18, 2013, 10:02:19 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 18, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 18, 2013, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 18, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
Would that be like the 1st round blowout of Concordia-Chicago?
That was against the MIAC runner-up Royals. This year, we're talking about the MIAC champion Royals. ;D
And, on the road... ;)
Really though, do I expect a blowout? Maybe not a blowout, but I think they'll win with a 2 - 3 score margin.
Maybe not though...CSS will probably have a playoff breakthrough eventually, why not now? They played a superior UWO team tough for a while before getting crushed last year.
BU had several years of one-and-done playoff trips before finally breaking through and going all the way to the semi-finals in 2007.
I'll be in attendance...hoping that the forecast stays dry, as it is for the moment!
I have a soft spot for CSS and UMD as my dad took me to plenty of UMD football and basketball games, and lots of CSS basketball games while growing up in Duluth, but that will be on hold for Saturday, in CSS's case. Still pulling for the bulldogs.
They sure lost a good AD/HC last year!
Yes, he was a very solid guy, and is the one that is responsible for taking UMD from a bottom half NSIC team to winning multiple Nat'l titles. Even after he's gone, they're still a contender this year. Got to spend some time around him when I was a high schooler and he ran a day long seminar for local team captains. He got Western Illinois off to a good start but has had some bumps in the road since then. I'm eager to see what he can do there with 3-4 years of recruiting.
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 19, 2013, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: wartknight on November 18, 2013, 10:02:19 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 18, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 18, 2013, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on November 18, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
Would that be like the 1st round blowout of Concordia-Chicago?
That was against the MIAC runner-up Royals. This year, we're talking about the MIAC champion Royals. ;D
And, on the road... ;)
Really though, do I expect a blowout? Maybe not a blowout, but I think they'll win with a 2 - 3 score margin.
Maybe not though...CSS will probably have a playoff breakthrough eventually, why not now? They played a superior UWO team tough for a while before getting crushed last year.
BU had several years of one-and-done playoff trips before finally breaking through and going all the way to the semi-finals in 2007.
I'll be in attendance...hoping that the forecast stays dry, as it is for the moment!
I have a soft spot for CSS and UMD as my dad took me to plenty of UMD football and basketball games, and lots of CSS basketball games while growing up in Duluth, but that will be on hold for Saturday, in CSS's case. Still pulling for the bulldogs.
They sure lost a good AD/HC last year!
Yes, he was a very solid guy, and is the one that is responsible for taking UMD from a bottom half NSIC team to winning multiple Nat'l titles. Even after he's gone, they're still a contender this year. Got to spend some time around him when I was a high schooler and he ran a day long seminar for local team captains. He got Western Illinois off to a good start but has had some bumps in the road since then. I'm eager to see what he can do there with 3-4 years of recruiting.
I'd heard the rumblings of this building about a year before he decided to leave. It sounded like it had to do with a lack of support from the UMD administration. Hopefully he finds continued success *and* UMD can keep competing on the national level.
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Would that be like the 1st round blowout of Concordia-Chicago?
That was against the MIAC runner-up Royals. This year, we're talking about the MIAC champion Royals. ;D
And, on the road... ;)
Really though, do I expect a blowout? Maybe not a blowout, but I think they'll win with a 2 - 3 score margin.
Maybe not though...CSS will probably have a playoff breakthrough eventually, why not now? They played a superior UWO team tough for a while before getting crushed last year.
BU had several years of one-and-done playoff trips before finally breaking through and going all the way to the semi-finals in 2007.
I'll be in attendance...hoping that the forecast stays dry, as it is for the moment!
I have a soft spot for CSS and UMD as my dad took me to plenty of UMD football and basketball games, and lots of CSS basketball games while growing up in Duluth, but that will be on hold for Saturday, in CSS's case. Still pulling for the bulldogs.
They sure lost a good AD/HC last year!
Yes, he was a very solid guy, and is the one that is responsible for taking UMD from a bottom half NSIC team to winning multiple Nat'l titles. Even after he's gone, they're still a contender this year. Got to spend some time around him when I was a high schooler and he ran a day long seminar for local team captains. He got Western Illinois off to a good start but has had some bumps in the road since then. I'm eager to see what he can do there with 3-4 years of recruiting.
As a grad & former coach @ the Wart, how could he not be! ;D
I will definitely follow Western a little now.
Quote from: hazzben on November 19, 2013, 10:58:01 AM
I'd heard the rumblings of this building about a year before he decided to leave. It sounded like it had to do with a lack of support from the UMD administration. Hopefully he finds continued success *and* UMD can keep competing on the national level.
Interesting. I know he has family in the vicinity of Western, and he's at the age where if he was going to take a shot at a division 1 job, now was the time, so it sort of seemed like a natural transition to me.
Regardless of football's success, Duluth will always be a hockey town, and I'm sure that applies to UMD as well.
Quote from: wartknight on November 19, 2013, 12:24:26 PM
As a grad & former coach @ the Wart, how could he not be! ;D
I will definitely follow Western a little now.
As if one of the cooler nicknames in college sports wasn't enough? :)
I don't see it posted here yet so I'll share that the play-off game between St. Scholastica and Bethel has been moved to the Metrodome. So if some of you Saints fans were thinking it wasn't worth the trip to sit out in the cold - now you can watch the teams play in comfort. I think Bethel is still going to win, but at least you'll be warm. ;D
Go Royals!
Does anyone here at the UMAC have an opinion on Hamm's Beer, ice fishing or professional wrestling? :-\
Quote from: sjusection105 on November 22, 2013, 12:03:26 PM
Does anyone here at the UMAC have an opinion on Hamm's Beer, ice fishing or professional wrestling? :-\
Ha! Maybe we should try to invade the UMAC board for a week and see if we can't at least get them to 100 pages on this thread :)
Ice fishing? Canada!
Pro Wrestling? The Claw!
Not Hamm's...
Are there no Saints fans around? What do you guys think of your new hire? Kurt's a top-caliber guy.
I guess that answers my first question.
No internet service around Duluth?
No thoughts on this anyone?
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/uw-superior-moves-to-leave-wiac-for-minnesota-conference-b99252592z1-256049331.html
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No thoughts on this anyone?
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/uw-superior-moves-to-leave-wiac-for-minnesota-conference-b99252592z1-256049331.html
To be honest it may fit them better travelwise but I think UW-Superior could come to dominate the UMAC in sports. I think they could become the big fish in a small pond.
About three months till we rock and roll...Greenville has a big hole to fill graduating OPOTY Chambers...recruiting numbers seem to be down at some schools...Carlson sure had great run at Scholastica and it seems they made a decent hire from the Johnnie's ...looking for a great season...
Will Wisconsin Superior be playing football?
I haven't heard anything nearly official but there is some idle speculation that it could be possible.
Someone announcing now would be likely aiming to take the field in 2016.
Sounds like Finlandia is making a serious bid to join the UMAC, now that it's starting up a football program. (http://dailypeninsula.com/2014/06/10/finlandia-university-football/)
With the season just a few weeks away, how does everybody's team look like for the upcoming season? Eureka should be fine on offense as they return most of their staters. On Defense, Red Devils lose 6 starters from the front 7 and I believe 1 or 2 in the secondary. Not looking forward to high scoring games.
Am sure Eureka will come out strong as usual...glad Greenville has you at home this year but out travel schedule is brutal for 2014.
Greenville will have a hard time replacing OPOTY Brendan Chambers and STPOTY Josh Frewin..they will be missed but recruiting has been strong and am anxious for camp to start...
Our defense should get an early test with Milikin week one...with All American Sean Dunning...
Football soon
Eureka will be scrimmaging against Miliken in a couple of weeks. I think that will be good to show the freshman on defense what to expect this year. And You are right about hosting EC this year. All of EC away games are against the top teams in the conference.
FYI...Dunning will not be returning to Millikin this season...
Quote from: Gregory Sager on June 11, 2014, 05:54:57 PM
Sounds like Finlandia is making a serious bid to join the UMAC, now that it's starting up a football program. (http://dailypeninsula.com/2014/06/10/finlandia-university-football/)
They will be playing UWWhitewater in 2015. That should get them off to a interesting start. ???
One of the St. Scholastica assistants is Dale Widolff, former head coach at Occidental. He will do special teams and assist on defense and advise the head coach. This is a good addition to the staff and all areas of his expertise.
Good luck to Dale! Always have respected his coaching skills.
Any thoughts on the coaches preseason poll?
With four teams receiving first place votes, I think this season will be interesting for the first two weeks do conference play. Eureka plays Northwestern in week 2 at home then travels to Greenville in week 3. I believe Eureka has a chance to be 2-0 after these games but at the same time I would not be surprised if they are 0-2 either.
I don't think the conference winner will be undefeated this year. At the end of the year, there might a two or three teams tied for the championship. Really looking forward to watching Eureka play this season. Hopefully, the defense will be able to set up after losing several key members to graduation. With the offense returning several key places (qb, wr, o-line), they will be able to the pigskin in the end zone.
DevilDad ...just a FYI ordering Kickoff the preseason analysis of all teams and info is well worth the $11...it is also a way to payback this great site for it's contribution to your life.
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DevilDad ...just a FYI ordering Kickoff the preseason analysis of all teams and info is well worth the $11...it is also a way to payback this great site for it's contribution to your life.
And the guy who writes the UMAC is also the guy in charge of the site :) , so you know that the UMAC coverage will be up to my standards.
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Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on August 19, 2014, 10:42:51 AM
DevilDad ...just a FYI ordering Kickoff the preseason analysis of all teams and info is well worth the $11...it is also a way to payback this great site for it's contribution to your life.
And the guy who writes the UMAC is also the guy in charge of the site :) , so you know that the UMAC coverage will be up to my standards.
I'll buy it again if you put the UMAC ahead of the ECFC in the conference rankings. ;D
Keith and I haven't wrapped that up yet, probably this evening or during the day tomorrow. Your alma mater can help with that, though, by winning its non-conference game.
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on August 19, 2014, 10:42:51 AM
DevilDad ...just a FYI ordering Kickoff the preseason analysis of all teams and info is well worth the $11...it is also a way to payback this great site for it's contribution to your life.
Plan on getting Kickoff again. I have ordered it the past two seasons and look forward to reading this years edition when it comes out.
DevilDad...I am interested in your feedback about Millikin after your scrimmage.
DadofBash....Offensively, Millikin ran several sweep plays with the WR. Sometimes used WR as decoys then handed off to RBs. They did burn our DBs on several play action plays for long gains/TDS. WRs were fast as well. When they got a step on a route they were able create separation. Defensively, Millikin was able to stop our offense inside the red zone better than I would have liked. However, their defense seemed vulnerable when we drove the length of the field. They did stop our straight runs but our draws seemed to catch them unaware.
Millikins o-line looked big but had some trouble with our speed pass rushers. They also were going up against several freshman players on our d-line. Overall, both teams seemed ready to play. Hopefully our freshman learned what to expect at the collegiate level. Several players came from winning high school teams, so hopefully, they will want to continue their winning ways.
With kick off less than one week away, what team does your school play and how do you feel about the upcoming season?
Eureka will be playing Knox College in the 3rd annual Lincoln Bowl at Knox. EC offense has 6 starters coming back including preseason All American Blake Robles along with his favorite target from last year, Dorrell Baugh. On defense, EC returns only 3 starters and could start as many as 3 to 5 freshman with up to 8 freshman seeing playing time.
More like preseason All-of-American ... an All-American team that has 620 players on it is misnamed.
I never really looked at the complete list but yea when there is enough players listed for each D3 team to have two or three players, the list might be too long.
Another question, is there any other posters for UMAC teams? I would really like to hear from other teams fan base to get their thoughts on their teams.
Tough loss last week DevilDad?
Tough loss but it is hard to pin it on either the offense or defense. Offense only put up 3 in the first half while the defense pitched a shutout. Second half was the opposite. Game was decided on last play with Knox getting about 2.5 yards from the 2 yard line. It was just enough to score.
Not sure about Knox but Eureka had 21 freshman getting their first playing experience with several of the starting and others getting serious playing time. Hopefully, they will realize that D3football is harder than high school. If they do, the future should be fine.
Looking forward to the Eureka game this weekend...You always play us tough...am sure it will be another nailbiter...
DadofBash.... Hopefully it will be a great game. It will all depend on which team shows up. If the defense from first half of Knox and offense from second half of Knox, the game should be exciting. If either side from theNorthwest game, well then it will be over by the end of the first quarter (sad to say.)
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DadofBash.... Hopefully it will be a great game. It will all depend on which team shows up. If the defense from first half of Knox and offense from second half of Knox, the game should be exciting. If either side from theNorthwest game, well then it will be over by the end of the first quarter (sad to say.)
Should be a great game played by both as usual...Hope both teams come away without injuries
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Looking forward to the Eureka game this weekend...You always play us tough...am sure it will be another nailbiter...
As I thought...great game...each team taking the lead...nailbiter till about the last 12 seconds
Anybody from Westminster??? ....anybody....come in Tokyo...come in Tokyo...anyone from Westminster???...are you there???
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on October 27, 2014, 07:42:18 PM
Anybody from Westminster??? ....anybody....come in Tokyo...come in Tokyo...anyone from Westminster???...are you there???
Sorry Dad, I'm a Basketball fan... but follow the UMAC standings to see how the SLIAC teams are doing.. nice to see Greenville and Westminster having good seasons... if the weather is nice and nothing else pops up, I might go over to Fulton on Saturday to check out the Greenville-Westmin game.....
and I haven't been able to find a regular poster from Westminster in the SLIAC Basketball room in 15 years....
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Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on October 27, 2014, 07:42:18 PM
Anybody from Westminster??? ....anybody....come in Tokyo...come in Tokyo...anyone from Westminster???...are you there???
Sorry Dad, I'm a Basketball fan... but follow the UMAC standings to see how the SLIAC teams are doing.. nice to see Greenville and Westminster having good seasons... if the weather is nice and nothing else pops up, I might go over to Fulton on Saturday to check out the Greenville-Westmin game.....
and I haven't been able to find a regular poster from Westminster in the SLIAC Basketball room in 15 years....
I cast into the abyss of the UMAC board and reel in a Hope College fan...quite a catch to me as one of my daughters graduated from Hope...I love Hope
OC for Greenville is my son so am looking forward to great game...WM sure slings the ball around
Come one, come all!
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Looks like we're the last region to get one of these started up. So, I'll be happy to organize one if we can get at least 10 reliable voters. We can use D3football.com's West Region (http://www.d3football.com/teams/west) team list as eligible teams to consider. I'm hoping to get two or three people from each conference to participate, if possible. With no more than one representative/fan from each school.....just to have a fair and unbiased poll as possible. Since we're halfway through this season already, I will probably won't start until the 2015 season.
This could be fun, considering (as we all know) the West is where the power conferences in DIII reside :P ;)
So if you're fan of a West region team (MIAC, WIAC, MWC, IIAC, SCIAC, UMAC, or NWC) and interested in doing this next year, you can send me a message or sign up here:
1. 02 Warhawk (UWW - WIAC)
2. Hazzben (Bethel - MIAC)
3. MasterJedi (UWW - WIAC)
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Head over the West Region Fan Poll thread and sign up if you're interested...or if anyone is listening over here ;)
Anyone know if St Scholastica has a tail gate area...will be my first visit there
So, any Saints fans making the drive down to Collegeville on Saturday?
Do they have fans?
Never been a post from a Saints fan...great people as I was just up there but none on here...
The internet hasn't made its way to Duluth yet.
Hellooooooooooooo.............
I'm a Saints fan, but I live too far away. I'll bet OxyBob is also a Saints fan.
Not many posts on this board anyway.
Quote from: Gray Fox on November 18, 2014, 10:24:24 AM
I'll bet OxyBob is also a Saints fan.
Indeed I am a Saints fan. No one's giving CSS much of a chance, but I'm rooting for the Saints!
OxyBob
Indeed, then I shall as well.
SJU has more SoCal players than CSS has new SoCal fans..... ::)
Bueller?... Bueller?... Bueller?
Fry?...Fry?...Fry?
Et tu, OxyBob?
Quote from: sjusection105 on November 18, 2014, 09:25:14 PM
SJU has more SoCal players than CSS has new SoCal fans..... ::)
OxyBob and I are evil twins, but he is more evil than I. ;)
Never get to page 70 until:
The Saints Come Marching In :)
Does Jimmy teach "young" Kurt a few offensive lessons this week??? :o
Quote from: OzJohnnie on November 18, 2014, 09:40:40 PM
Et tu, OxyBob?
No way, OJ. Just support for a friend.
OxyBob
WOW! This board is dead. Does anybody know the Saints have a game on Saturday?
Quote from: 57Johnnie on November 20, 2014, 04:57:14 PM
WOW! This board is dead. Does anybody know the Saints have a game on Saturday?
Apparently only the St. John's folks do. You guys seem to be single-handedly keeping the board alive, at least for now.
Quote from: DuffMan on November 19, 2014, 08:45:56 AM
Does Jimmy teach "young" Kurt a few offensive lessons this week??? :o
This is hands down one of the best storylines of the first round of the playoffs, IMO.
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Quote from: 57Johnnie on November 20, 2014, 04:57:14 PM
WOW! This board is dead. Does anybody know the Saints have a game on Saturday?
Apparently only the St. John's folks do. You guys seem to be single-handedly keeping the board alive, at least for now.
We SCIAC fans do also.
Here's the Crown College Storm 2015 schedule. http://athletics.crown.edu/schedule.aspx?path=football
Just pound the rock with Michaud and you'll be OK.
With less than two months before the season starts, how does your team look for the upcoming season?
Hello, a bunch of us are looking to do a West Region fan poll again this year. I'm still looking for a few more participants if anyone is interested. I would love to get one or two participants from the UMAC. You just have to send me your list of top 10 teams from the West each week. I'll put everyone's picks together and post the results in the West region. It usually makes for a good debate.
Please send me a message if you're interested.
Much appreciated.
With camps going on, how does everyone numbers look like? Eureka has about 85 in camp with 51 returning play. This includes 16 starters.
Quote from: DevilDad on August 19, 2015, 08:04:33 PM
With camps going on, how does everyone numbers look like? Eureka has about 85 in camp with 51 returning play. This includes 16 starters.
Kickoff (http://www.d3football.com/notables/2015/08/time-to-get-kickoff-2015) usually includes this data. Is 85 a record for Eureka?
Not sure if it a record but it is the most they have had in a long time. I know Kickoff covers this but I am trying to get some life into this board.
I just visited the Crown camp today. Will have a feature story in Kickoff. And I write the UMAC previews myself.
Eureka was hoping for a few more than 85 when I talked to Barth last month.
My son was saying at least 85. I didn't want to say more than that without knowing for sure. So, any info on Crown before Kickoff comes out on Tuesday? I already bought mine and am waiting very impatiently.
Pat, Any idea how many players will be on the Finlandia roster? Were you tempted to drive up to the western UP for an onsite visit ---God's Country
Pat probably got the latest in researching Kickoff, but I count 62 on Finlandia's current roster.
I'm hoping to be there for their opener.
Hey AO. I'm hanging at the tennis courts of your Alma Mater this weekend. Nice complex!
Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on August 21, 2015, 08:07:38 PM
Hey AO. I'm hanging at the tennis courts of your Alma Mater this weekend. Nice complex!
dropping off someone? I think orientation started today.
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Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on August 21, 2015, 08:07:38 PM
Hey AO. I'm hanging at the tennis courts of your Alma Mater this weekend. Nice complex!
dropping off someone? I think orientation started today.
Yes it's orientation here alright. But
I'm here with my high school son who's playing in a tennis tournament.
First scrimmage is tomorrow for EC. Traveling to Milliken. Who else is having them this weekend?
Which player on your team do you think will be the breakout star or impact player this year? For EC, I think that WR Mogged will play a huge part in their passing attack.
Quote from: DevilDad on August 27, 2015, 10:13:38 PM
Which player on your team do you think will be the breakout star or impact player this year? For EC, I think that WR Mogged will play a huge part in their passing attack.
Last weekend of the season. EC plays a big game at NW-Minn. A win would put EC at 6-4. Defense has been dominating, held MN-Morris to 95 yds. total offense this week. Offense struggling, but I'm thinking huge road upset this week to cap off a solid season.
CSS fans, are any of you heading to Oshkosh this weekend?
Quote from: sjusection105 on November 15, 2015, 08:02:04 PM
CSS fans, are any of you heading to Oshkosh this weekend?
I thought to myself, "Holy crap, someone posted in the UMAC board!" Then, I saw that it was only you. :-\
Not only did we post but national coverage for St. Scholastica on NPR on Game Day!!!
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/21/456827354/meet-the-college-football-coach-who-really-knows-her-hail-marys (http://www.npr.org/2015/11/21/456827354/meet-the-college-football-coach-who-really-knows-her-hail-marys)
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Quote from: sjusection105 on November 15, 2015, 08:02:04 PM
CSS fans, are any of you heading to Oshkosh this weekend?
I thought to myself, "Holy crap, someone posted in the UMAC board!" Then, I saw that it was only you. :-\
Ha! I had the same thought
Quote from: D O.C. on November 21, 2015, 11:44:45 AM
Not only did we post but national coverage for St. Scholastica on NPR on Game Day!!!
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/21/456827354/meet-the-college-football-coach-who-really-knows-her-hail-marys (http://www.npr.org/2015/11/21/456827354/meet-the-college-football-coach-who-really-knows-her-hail-marys)
Sister Lisa is a great story -- glad to add NPR to the list of media outlets that have done a piece!
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Safe travels. :-*
Wow, crickets for over a year. I came over from the MIAC board to see if anyone at Northwestern was aware that they have the wrong link on their website for playing St. Thomas next Saturday.
Decided I'm going to spam every conference board with my preseason (non-returning-starter-adjusted) projections.
| Team | Rating | Overall | Conference |
| CSS | 0.4076 | 7.6-2.4 | 6.8-1.2 |
| NWestern | 0.3473 | 7.7-2.3 | 6.6-1.4 |
| Westminster | 0.1094 | 4.9-5.1 | 4.2-3.8 |
| Eureka | 0.1076 | 5.5-4.5 | 4.6-3.4 |
| Greenville | 0.1021 | 4.8-5.2 | 4.5-3.5 |
| MacMurray | 0.0904 | 5.2-4.8 | 3.4-4.6 |
| MN-Morris | 0.0750 | 5.1-4.9 | 3.8-4.2 |
| Crown | 0.0514 | 3.5-6.5 | 2.9-5.1 |
| IWU | 0.0402 | 3.4-6.6 | 2.7-5.3 |
| Martin Luther | 0.0010 | 0.4-9.6 | 0.4-7.6 |
To quote Mark Twain (and Ramler probably), "Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated." Around the rest of the conference, home-field advantage plays a huge role to explain why some teams with lower ratings are predicted to have better records.
Eureka leaves for the NACC in 2018. Here are some thoughts and opinions to kick around.
Plusses for Eureka.
Possibly less travel expense.
Resume old rivalries from the Illini-Badger Conference
Minuses/plusses for Eureka.
Playing in a tougher conference.
Minuses for UMAC
Going to a 9-team conference and filling a tough open date.
Plusses for UMAC
One less trip to the far southern part of the conference.
Are there any UMAC schools that might add football now that there is an "opening"?
Plus for the NACC
Getting to an 8-team conference which balances with the MIAA.
I don't think the UMAC will worry too much about the nine-team alignment. You can play non-conference in Week 1 and Week 2 and then play eight conference games over the nine remaining weeks. You don't have to try to slide in your non-conference opponent in Week 7.
http://www.d3football.com/seasons/2017/contrib/201708043gg9lu
Why am I the only poster on this board?
http://morriscougars.com/news/2017/8/4/johnson-hoffmann-announced-as-football-co-head-coaches-for-2017-season.aspx
Quote from: Gray Fox on August 13, 2017, 01:55:44 PM
Why am I the only poster on this board?
http://morriscougars.com/news/2017/8/4/johnson-hoffmann-announced-as-football-co-head-coaches-for-2017-season.aspx
As best I can tell, the last post from an actual UMACer was in November of 2015. Draw your own conclusions.
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on August 14, 2017, 01:06:11 AM
Quote from: Gray Fox on August 13, 2017, 01:55:44 PM
Why am I the only poster on this board?
http://morriscougars.com/news/2017/8/4/johnson-hoffmann-announced-as-football-co-head-coaches-for-2017-season.aspx
As best I can tell, the last post from an actual UMACer was in November of 2015. Draw your own conclusions.
SAD
I'm looking to get the West Fan poll up and running again this year, and I have a few open spots available. Please send me a PM if you're interested in participating the season.
Thanks!
Another find by your UMAC stringer.
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2017/08/eureka-football-join-nacc-2018
Any CSS Saints fans making the trip to Collegeville for the Sept. 2 game? If so, you are welcome to join our tailgate party. 8-)
BLC weighing adding football:
http://blcvikings.com/news/2017/8/21/general-update-on-football-study-at-bethany.aspx
Which UMAC Coord. wants to move to Mankato and takeover the Vikings?
Quote from: Gray Fox on August 13, 2017, 01:55:44 PM
Why am I the only poster on this board?
Reposting what I put over on the MIAC board yesterday:
At the risk of getting a piling on penalty thrown against me, I took a few minutes to do a somewhat exaustive investigation into last week's games in the UMAC.
MacMurray beat Rockford of the NACC, 22 to 14, who last year won just one game.
Martin Luther beat Minnesota Morris 14 to 7. (This game apparently is considered a non-confernece game, as they play each other in conferenrce action on October 7th.)
Eureka fell to Knox of the MWC, 21 to 28, who won just two games last year.
Iowa Wesleyan fell to Cornell of the MWC, 25 to 62, who won 5 games last year.
Northwestern lost to Augsburg of the MIAC, 7 to 42, who won 2 games last year.
Greenville lost to Millikin of the CC!W, 3 to 76, who won 4 games last year.
Westminster lost to Gustavus of the MIAC, 0 to 38, who won 5 games last year.
Crown lost to Hamline of the MIAC, 0 to 51, who won 5 games last year.
St. Scholastica lost to St. John's of the MIAC, 0 to 98, who won 10 games last season.
So, we can observe and deduce a few things from the above information. Out of the 8 games the UMAC played out of their conference, half the time, they played teams with .500 or better records last year. In only two of their games were the scores close. And the lone win they recorded this past week, was against a team whose only win last season was against the now defunct team of Maranatha Baptist. The guys at D3 Football definitely have this one picked right as being the weakest of all 28 conferences this year.
Good article on EC coach, Kurt Barth: http://minorleaguesportsreport.com/index.php/kurt-barth-found-formula-success-eureka-college/
Good conference race going on in the UMAC, St. S and Mac 3-0, EC, MLC, and NWM all 2-1.
Week 5 Predictions:
Westmin over MLC Is MLC for real? Westmin tough to beat at home, should get close win
Mac over GC 59-46 shootout last year, won't be that close this year. Mac looks to be too tough on the ground against an up and down GC team. Nice win over NWM for GC, but otherwise haven't shown much.
St. S over NWM Saints keep rolling along.
EC over IWC EC defense too good--ground game punishes IWC in blowout
Morris over Crown Somebody's O must go. Let's give it to the home team, if we must.
Top 3 teams in the UMAC have really separated themselves. 4-10 is pretty awful...
Predictions for this week:
EC over Mac Game of the week pits #3 in the nation total defense EC vs. #1 in the nation in rushing yards Chazz Middlebrook. I don't think Mac can match up with this defense and EC also has top 10 in the nation rusher Le'Anthony Reasonver. Tough to win on the road in that tiny stadium, but EC does it 27-13 to knock Mac out of first and set up huge game with St. S next week.
GC over Westmin Both programs down a bit this year and look to be very evenly matched. Greenville has more weapons and home field advantage. 33-24 GC
NW over MLC This one might be as exciting as the Diet of Worms. MLC thumped by St. S and Westmin, snuck by Morris in the last 3 weeks. Looks to be slipping. NW just better at this point. 44-17 NW
St. S over Crown Avert your eyes. 61-6 St. S
IWC over Morris Avert your eyes, Part Deux. IWC comes home riding a tidy 5 game losing streak. Morris' sole win 14-7 over bad Crown team. My magic 8-ball says IWC wins at home in a shootout 38-30.
I'm writing into the wind, but whatever. 4-1 last week, nice win for Westmin spoiled perfection.
EC over St.S Last week EC smashes undefeated Mac. The only stat you need: #1 in the nation rusher Chazz Middlebrook 5 rushes 18 yds, EC back Le'Anthony Reasonver 42 rushes, 274 yds, 3 tds. This is the biggest game for EC in two decades (or at least since NW last year). Win and we're likely in the postseason for first time in 22 yrs. This defense will be the difference--aggressive, smart, and poised under Senior leadership. Close game but this is EC's year
EC 24 St. S 13
Westmin over Mac Westmin coming off nice win at GC, gets to play at home. If Middlebrook is out then Mac has problems. Latif Adams has a big day and Westmin pulls upset. WC 31 Mac 24
GC over IWC IWC picks up second win last week over Morris. Greenville isn't Morris GC 41 IWC 18
MLC over Crown Tundra Bowl I Battle of the bads. Hey Crown did put up 21 on St. S last week. MLC 45 Crown 28
NW over Morris Tundra Bowl II NW 26 Morris 14
ECRD goes 5-0 last week and gets pretty darn close on the scores...
Back by no demand whatsoever, it's final week predictions.
EC over MLC HUGE win last week for EC, Reasonver (355 yds 5 tds) becomes leading rusher in D-III and third across all divisions by yardage. EC won't be denied and will see postseason action for first time in 23 years!! EC 47 MLC 7
GC over Morris Erratic GC team gets a home closer against bad Morris. In typical bizarre UMAC fashion, GC trails IWC last weekend 20-10 at the half, but ends up putting up an amazing 811 yards of total offense in a last second win. This team can score against bad teams. GC 52 Morris 20
St. S over Mac Mac offense stalled last week as Middlebrook rushed for -11. St. S a very tall task on the road and likely angry after EC loss. Zach Edwards has a huge day. St. S 45 Mac 21
Westmin over IWC Westmin 3-0 since EC pounding and also undefeated at home. Rough year for IWC ends badly in Fulton, MO. Westmin 40 IWC 16
NW over Crown NW ends with a winning record for 7th straight year, Crown ends winless for first time since 2011. NW 56 Crown 18
Hello,
Trying to recruit one or two more members for the West Region Fan poll. Would love to have a representative from this conference participate this year. Please send me a personal message if you're interested.
Much appreciated!
Nobody has posted anything on this board for a year.
Maybe you could talk about the two coaching changes at Morris since Rob Cushman left for Occidental. :)
Quote from: Gray Fox on October 25, 2018, 03:30:44 PM
Nobody has posted anything on this board for a year.
Maybe you could talk about the two coaching changes at Morris since Rob Cushman left for Occidental. :)
Well, one was the interim co-coach situation to replace Cushman and the other was one of those co-coaches getting elevated to the head coaching job ... that's not exactly the revolving door you make it sound like.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 26, 2018, 03:46:55 AM
Quote from: Gray Fox on October 25, 2018, 03:30:44 PM
Nobody has posted anything on this board for a year.
Maybe you could talk about the two coaching changes at Morris since Rob Cushman left for Occidental. :)
Well, one was the interim co-coach situation to replace Cushman and the other was one of those co-coaches getting elevated to the head coaching job ... that's not exactly the revolving door you make it sound like.
I wasn't trying to misrepresent it, but I didn't know all the details.
Still, there has been no action on the board.
Wow, UMAC board is red hot right now!!! :o ;D
RED HOT!
Good luck, ML. I hope you enjoy your visit to Collegeville and the run in with AirJohnnieTM.
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Let me know if anyone is interested in participating in this year's West Region Fan Poll. I'm looking for two (maybe three) participants.
Much appreciated
2019 UMAC Football Preseason Coaches' Poll
1. Martin Luther – 61 points (6 First Place Votes)
2. Northwestern – 54 points (2 First Place Votes)
3. MacMurray – 49 points
4. St. Scholastica – 47 points (1 First Place Votes)
5. Westminster – 35 points
6. Greenville – 29 points
7. Minnesota Morris – 22 points
8. Iowa Wesleyan – 17 points
9. Crown – 10 points
I'll rep one time here for the UMAC and see what happens.
The 4 games on the schedule for this coming week are not overly exciting, but those at the top of the conference standing will attempt not to lose ground in a tight race for the title.
Westminster (Mo.) travels to Minnesota-Morris. The Blue Jays have played good ball the last 2 weeks with a 33-30 win against MacMurray and a tough lose to conference leading MLC last weekend. In the MLC game, Westminster was tied at 14-14 and driving in the final minute of the first half when their QB Wyatt Ellis was knocked out of the game (concussion?). The Blue Jays were held scoreless after that and took the lose 24-14, a good effort none the less. This is a 667 mile bus ride for Westminster and the weather could also play a factor, but in the end I believe the Blue Jays will be too much for the offensively challenged Minnesota-Morris squad.
Greenville travels to Crown. Greenville is coming off of 2 impressive wins with a wildly exciting 40-34 game last weekend against St. Scholastica and their game prior to that was a 36-0 beatdown of Westminster. Greenville seems to being playing their best football right now and that is probably bad news for the Storm. This is also a long bus ride (620 miles) and again the weather may effect this game. Greenville is 3-1 in conference play and right in the middle of the title hunt, with the added motivation the Panthers will probably enjoy the long trip home after a victory.
Northwestern (Minn.) travels to Martin Luther College. These are the two teams picked 1-2 in the preseason coaches poll, but seem to have gone in opposite directions since that voting. At first glance most might think this is an easy win for MLC, but the Eagles were the one team in conference play that slowed MLC's rushing attack last season (MLC is averaging 302 yards rushing a game this season) and held them to a season low 21 points in conference play. MLC has not beaten Northwestern at home since 2009. I believe MLC will wear down the Eagles in the end and get the W, but it will not be an easy one, IMHO.
MacMurray travels to Iowa Wesleyan. On paper this is a mismatch, MacMurray has the top scoring offense in the UMAC and IWU has the last place scoring defense. MacMurray is 3-1 in conference and controls their own destiny to post season play, but with Greenville, MLC and CSS as the next 3 on the schedule it will not be an easy road for the Highlanders. As for IWU, I believe the threat of closing their doors has been too much for this group to overcome. Hopefully the future looms brighter for the Tigers then this season has. Outside of a major look ahead, MacMurray should get the win going away with ease.
St. Scholastica is on a bye this coming week.
Wow! Great synopses. Thanks for getting some action going in here.
Quote from: DuffMan on October 22, 2019, 09:37:47 PM
Wow! Great synopses. Thanks for getting some action going in here.
Thanks DuffMan, I would think there would be some interest in all 27 fishbowls that make up D-3 Football. Hopefully that is correct thinking on my part.
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A fellow traveller!
Thanks for keeping this board alive.
+k :)
Westminster and Minnesota-Morris have went to the half and the offenses have yet to show much for either team. Westminster is playing with backup QB Bryce Moorman who played the 2nd half last week and was held scoreless and has add only two FG's so far today. The highlight of the 1st half was Westminster kicker Tim Branneky hitting a 58 yard FG to close out the half. 6-0 Westminster.
Greenville and Crown also are at the half and Greenville is continuing their good play leading 20-0. Paul Garrett has racked up 142 yards rushing on 18 carries in the first half for Greenville. The Greenville defense is pitched in with 3 TO's to help the cause.
The other 2 games will kickoff shortly.
All 4 teams higher in the standing held serve today and keeps the race for the automatic qualifier fairly open. Both Martin Luther College and MacMurray control their own destiny with 3 games remaining for each, if either wins out they will be conference champions and automatic qualifiers. Greenville checks in at 4-1 in conference play, but needs help to win the qualifier because MLC owns the head-to-head tie-breaker with them.
Recapping todays games.
Westminster was all out to get the win today at Morris and needed a 4th quarter 86 yard pass play to supply the winning edge. The Blue Jays can enjoy their long ride home with the W in their column, but if starting QB Wyatt Ellis doesn't return to the starting lineup Westminster is probably going to struggle to get wins against even the bottom teams in the UMAC. They finish the year with games with Crown and Northwestern and both are winnable games to try and finish the year on a positive note. As for Minnesota-Morris, I tip my hat to them for the gritty effort day. But their short comings on offense where they are average 14.5 points a game this season again was too much to overcome. The bad news for them is that they probably do not have a winnable game for them left on their schedule, they finish with MLC, CSS and Greenville.
Greenville did the expected on their visit to St. Bonifacius to face the Crown Storm. Greenville was in control from the start, Paul Garrett rushed for 193 yards and the defense turned the Storm over 7 times in a 32-6 victory. Greenville now heads to MacMurray next weekend for a showdown with the Highlanders that is probably an elimination game for someone. Win that one and the likelihood of a 7-1 conference season is fairly strong with the final 2 games with IWU and Minnesota-Morris. Crown has two games remaining this season, travel to Westminster and finish at home against MLC.
MLC took care of their business and pulled away to win by 3 TD's in the end 41-20. A key swing in this game was right before the half with the score 17-7. Inside of a minute to go Northwestern had 1st and goal from the 4, 2nd and goal from the 1 and were stopped on 3rd down also. Their FG try on 4th down was blocked with seconds left in the half and the Eagles came away with nothing. In typical MLC grinding fashion they kept the ball moving and forced Northwestern to play catchup the last 30 minutes, forcing Northwestern out of their ground attack and making them one dimensional. Something Northwestern was unable to overcome as MLC captures their 13th straight conference win. MLC will finish conference play with games with Minnesota-Morris, @ MacMurray and @ Crown. Northwestern will finish out what has to be a very disappointing season with games with Westminster and IWU.
MacMurray had a ho-hum day at Mount Pleasant and dispatched of Iowa Wesleyan on their Homecoming day 21-12. Nothing eyepopping about their play, but they did what was needed and got the W to keep their title hopes alive. If MacMurray runs the table from here they certainly will earn the title with Greenville, MLC and CSS on the horizon. Sadly Iowa Wesleyan is staring down the gun barrel of a winless season with CSS, Greenville and Northwestern on the dance card.
The 4 games this week probably have 2 overmatched games, one game that could be tight and a game that might be the conference game of the year so far.
Iowa Wesleyan travels to Duluth this weekend to take on St. Scholastica in a game that doesn't look close on paper. CSS is averaging 30.3 points a game on offense this season and Iowa Wesleyan is the last place team in the UMAC in scoring defense at a give up rate of 35.3 a game. Add in that IWU is only average 7.4 points a game on offense and St. Scholastica is coming off a bye week, well lets just say this one looks a little one sided from my front porch. The good news is that the bus probably has Wi-Fi for the 470 mile ride back home for the Tigers.
Crown travels south to take on Westminster in a game with some question marks. Westminster has been two different teams with and without their starting QB Wyatt Ellis and in the world of D-3 football and injuries we will just remain in the dark until the Blue Jays first snap on offense. If Ellis does line up Westminster should be a two score winner here, but if not the Crown defense does sport the top ranked passing defense in the UMAC and could make this a very tight game for 4 quarters. This is another long bus ride in the UMAC schedule as Crown has to travel 527 miles and that may take some toll also. In the end Westminster should get the win, but an upset would not be shocking here.
Minnesota-Morris takes a trip down to New Ulm to take on Martin Luther College. Statistically this is another game that seems to be a complete mismatch as MLC comes into this game with the #1 scoring offense and the #1 scoring defense in the conference and Minnesota-Morris is 8th ranked in both departments. Ball control will probably be dominated by MLC who averages 294 yards a game over land, where as UMM has struggled stopping the run giving up an average of 193.4 yard a game on the ground. It is hard to see the Cougars being able to keep pace in this one, which will probably lead to a lopsided score in the end. MSC rolls to their 14th straight conference win this week.
Greenville travels to MacMurray and on paper this should be a great game to watch. MacMurray has the #2 scoring offense (32.0) in the UMAC and Greenville has the #3 scoring offense (31.0). Greenville has the #2 scoring defense (22.5) and MacMurray has the #3 scoring defense (26.0). With both team having one lose and tied in the second spot in the conference this is an elimination game for the loser. Two of the top teams in the UMAC playing with a playoff type intensity should make for a fun game for all that are watching. In the end I do think Greenville go's into Jacksonville and gets this win, but it should be a close game that could go either way.
Iowa Wesleyan @ St. Scholastica - Temperature 34 degrees, no precipitation expected, winds at 15 MPH.
Crown @ Westminster - Temperature 47 degrees, sunny day and no precipitation expected, winds at 10 MPH
Minnesota-Morris @ Martin Luther College - 38 degrees, partly cloudy day and no precipitation expected, winds at 16 MPH
Greenville @ MacMurray - 45 degrees, partly cloudy and no precipitation expected, winds at 14 MPH
All things considered a nice weather day across the UMAC. A little breezy, but weather shouldn't play a factor in any of the outcomes today.
A perfectly reasonable Nov. 2, all things considered!
Backup QB Bryce Moorman again gets the start for Westminster. I would not be surprised to see the Blue Jays struggle to move the ball today.
Quote from: Baldini on November 02, 2019, 01:29:23 PM
Backup QB Bryce Moorman again gets the start for Westminster. I would not be surprised to see the Blue Jays struggle to move the ball today.
Scoreless game in the 2nd quarter and starting QB Wyatt Ellis has returned to action for Westminster, it will be interesting to see if he can jumpstart their offense.
Recapping yesterdays games.
St. Scholastica had the easy time which was expected with Iowa Wesleyan, the Saints cruised to a 61-8 victory. The most interesting play of the game may have been after CSS took the opening drive 6 plays for a TD, IWU blocked the PAT and returned it the distance for a 2 point defensive PAT. CSS looks to finish the season strong and end the season in the top half of the standing as is the norm for the Saints. The Tigers chances of gaining a win this season are looking rather long from here as they close out the season with Greenville and Northwestern. Winter sports can't get here quick enough for IWU.
Westminster received an offensive lift when QB Wyatt Ellis returned to the field and lead the Blue Jays to 3 second half TD's to break open a game that was 3-0 at the half. The sophomore QB seems to be a difference maker for Westminster and probably will make the Blue Jays a dangerous team the next couple of seasons in the UMAC. The Crown team just keeps battling. They have a very small and young roster, but even so they battle ever week regardless of what the score is. There is some good UMAC talent in their freshmen class and if they can keep it together and add a little each year it will be an interesting team in a few seasons.
Martin Luther cruised to the easiest of wins, dominating in all phases in a 49-0 victory that could of been much worse. The Knights out total yarded the Cougars 565-57 and that was with backups playing a good portion of the second half. Minnesota-Morris managed two 1st downs in the game, one on their first drive of the game and one on the last drive of the game. They never came close to scoring a point. Coach Hoffmann in Morris has a tough project ahead of him, starting with recruiting volume is probably the first step. The good news for them is that it is the UMAC and one good recruiting class can go a long ways.
Greenville continues with their good play by going to MacMurray and ending the Highlanders title hopes 41-30. It looked to be a good game going in and they did not disappoint, but in the end MacMurray couldn't go blow for blow offensively with the Panthers who's balanced attack racked 534 yards in total offense (250 rushing, 284 passing). Greenville has probably stamped themselves as the early favorite for next season with their continued good play from a very young roster. As for MacMurray they will lose 9 starters on the offense and defense combined, but do return their QB and most of their key defensive players. Fill a few holes and they are right back in the hunt next season.
That is back-to-back 4-0 weeks on the late start to the games analysis for the UMAC, now the question is there a single individual out there who is reading this board? :)
There are always people reading -- sometimes people who aren't registered or logged in. I definitely appreciate the detail on games!
Quote from: Baldini on November 03, 2019, 10:09:32 AM
Recapping yesterdays games.
St. Scholastica had the easy time which was expected with Iowa Wesleyan, the Saints cruised to a 61-8 victory. The most interesting play of the game may have been after CSS took the opening drive 6 plays for a TD, IWU blocked the PAT and returned it the distance for a 2 point defensive PAT. CSS looks to finish the season strong and end the season in the top half of the standing as is the norm for the Saints. The Tigers chances of gaining a win this season are looking rather long from here as they close out the season with Greenville and Northwestern. Winter sports can't get here quick enough for IWU.
Westminster received an offensive lift when QB Wyatt Ellis returned to the field and lead the Blue Jays to 3 second half TD's to break open a game that was 3-0 at the half. The sophomore QB seems to be a difference maker for Westminster and probably will make the Blue Jays a dangerous team the next couple of seasons in the UMAC. The Crown team just keeps battling. They have a very small and young roster, but even so they battle ever week regardless of what the score is. There is some good UMAC talent in their freshmen class and if they can keep it together and add a little each year it will be an interesting team in a few seasons.
Martin Luther cruised to the easiest of wins, dominating in all phases in a 49-0 victory that could of been much worse. The Knights out total yarded the Cougars 565-57 and that was with backups playing a good portion of the second half. Minnesota-Morris managed two 1st downs in the game, one on their first drive of the game and one on the last drive of the game. They never came close to scoring a point. Coach Hoffmann in Morris has a tough project ahead of him, starting with recruiting volume is probably the first step. The good news for them is that it is the UMAC and one good recruiting class can go a long ways.
Greenville continues with their good play by going to MacMurray and ending the Highlanders title hopes 41-30. It looked to be a good game going in and they did not disappoint, but in the end MacMurray couldn't go blow for blow offensively with the Panthers who's balanced attack racked 534 yards in total offense (250 rushing, 284 passing). Greenville has probably stamped themselves as the early favorite for next season with their continued good play from a very young roster. As for MacMurray they will lose 9 starters on the offense and defense combined, but do return their QB and most of their key defensive players. Fill a few holes and they are right back in the hunt next season.
That is back-to-back 4-0 weeks on the late start to the games analysis for the UMAC, now the question is there a single individual out there who is reading this board? :)
Yes
Quote from: Baldini on November 03, 2019, 10:09:32 AM
Recapping yesterdays games.
St. Scholastica had the easy time which was expected with Iowa Wesleyan, the Saints cruised to a 61-8 victory. The most interesting play of the game may have been after CSS took the opening drive 6 plays for a TD, IWU blocked the PAT and returned it the distance for a 2 point defensive PAT. CSS looks to finish the season strong and end the season in the top half of the standing as is the norm for the Saints. The Tigers chances of gaining a win this season are looking rather long from here as they close out the season with Greenville and Northwestern. Winter sports can't get here quick enough for IWU.
Westminster received an offensive lift when QB Wyatt Ellis returned to the field and lead the Blue Jays to 3 second half TD's to break open a game that was 3-0 at the half. The sophomore QB seems to be a difference maker for Westminster and probably will make the Blue Jays a dangerous team the next couple of seasons in the UMAC. The Crown team just keeps battling. They have a very small and young roster, but even so they battle ever week regardless of what the score is. There is some good UMAC talent in their freshmen class and if they can keep it together and add a little each year it will be an interesting team in a few seasons.
Martin Luther cruised to the easiest of wins, dominating in all phases in a 49-0 victory that could of been much worse. The Knights out total yarded the Cougars 565-57 and that was with backups playing a good portion of the second half. Minnesota-Morris managed two 1st downs in the game, one on their first drive of the game and one on the last drive of the game. They never came close to scoring a point. Coach Hoffmann in Morris has a tough project ahead of him, starting with recruiting volume is probably the first step. The good news for them is that it is the UMAC and one good recruiting class can go a long ways.
Greenville continues with their good play by going to MacMurray and ending the Highlanders title hopes 41-30. It looked to be a good game going in and they did not disappoint, but in the end MacMurray couldn't go blow for blow offensively with the Panthers who's balanced attack racked 534 yards in total offense (250 rushing, 284 passing). Greenville has probably stamped themselves as the early favorite for next season with their continued good play from a very young roster. As for MacMurray they will lose 9 starters on the offense and defense combined, but do return their QB and most of their key defensive players. Fill a few holes and they are right back in the hunt next season.
That is back-to-back 4-0 weeks on the late start to the games analysis for the UMAC, now the question is there a single individual out there who is reading this board? :)
Scouting 1st round play-off match ups
Quote from: sjusection105 on November 04, 2019, 09:54:41 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 03, 2019, 10:09:32 AM
Recapping yesterdays games.
St. Scholastica had the easy time which was expected with Iowa Wesleyan, the Saints cruised to a 61-8 victory. The most interesting play of the game may have been after CSS took the opening drive 6 plays for a TD, IWU blocked the PAT and returned it the distance for a 2 point defensive PAT. CSS looks to finish the season strong and end the season in the top half of the standing as is the norm for the Saints. The Tigers chances of gaining a win this season are looking rather long from here as they close out the season with Greenville and Northwestern. Winter sports can't get here quick enough for IWU.
Westminster received an offensive lift when QB Wyatt Ellis returned to the field and lead the Blue Jays to 3 second half TD's to break open a game that was 3-0 at the half. The sophomore QB seems to be a difference maker for Westminster and probably will make the Blue Jays a dangerous team the next couple of seasons in the UMAC. The Crown team just keeps battling. They have a very small and young roster, but even so they battle ever week regardless of what the score is. There is some good UMAC talent in their freshmen class and if they can keep it together and add a little each year it will be an interesting team in a few seasons.
Martin Luther cruised to the easiest of wins, dominating in all phases in a 49-0 victory that could of been much worse. The Knights out total yarded the Cougars 565-57 and that was with backups playing a good portion of the second half. Minnesota-Morris managed two 1st downs in the game, one on their first drive of the game and one on the last drive of the game. They never came close to scoring a point. Coach Hoffmann in Morris has a tough project ahead of him, starting with recruiting volume is probably the first step. The good news for them is that it is the UMAC and one good recruiting class can go a long ways.
Greenville continues with their good play by going to MacMurray and ending the Highlanders title hopes 41-30. It looked to be a good game going in and they did not disappoint, but in the end MacMurray couldn't go blow for blow offensively with the Panthers who's balanced attack racked 534 yards in total offense (250 rushing, 284 passing). Greenville has probably stamped themselves as the early favorite for next season with their continued good play from a very young roster. As for MacMurray they will lose 9 starters on the offense and defense combined, but do return their QB and most of their key defensive players. Fill a few holes and they are right back in the hunt next season.
That is back-to-back 4-0 weeks on the late start to the games analysis for the UMAC, now the question is there a single individual out there who is reading this board? :)
Scouting 1st round play-off match ups
I'll be here.
Quote from: Baldini on November 03, 2019, 10:09:32 AM
Recapping yesterdays games.
St. Scholastica had the easy time which was expected with Iowa Wesleyan, the Saints cruised to a 61-8 victory. The most interesting play of the game may have been after CSS took the opening drive 6 plays for a TD, IWU blocked the PAT and returned it the distance for a 2 point defensive PAT. CSS looks to finish the season strong and end the season in the top half of the standing as is the norm for the Saints. The Tigers chances of gaining a win this season are looking rather long from here as they close out the season with Greenville and Northwestern. Winter sports can't get here quick enough for IWU.
Westminster received an offensive lift when QB Wyatt Ellis returned to the field and lead the Blue Jays to 3 second half TD's to break open a game that was 3-0 at the half. The sophomore QB seems to be a difference maker for Westminster and probably will make the Blue Jays a dangerous team the next couple of seasons in the UMAC. The Crown team just keeps battling. They have a very small and young roster, but even so they battle ever week regardless of what the score is. There is some good UMAC talent in their freshmen class and if they can keep it together and add a little each year it will be an interesting team in a few seasons.
Martin Luther cruised to the easiest of wins, dominating in all phases in a 49-0 victory that could of been much worse. The Knights out total yarded the Cougars 565-57 and that was with backups playing a good portion of the second half. Minnesota-Morris managed two 1st downs in the game, one on their first drive of the game and one on the last drive of the game. They never came close to scoring a point. Coach Hoffmann in Morris has a tough project ahead of him, starting with recruiting volume is probably the first step. The good news for them is that it is the UMAC and one good recruiting class can go a long ways.
Greenville continues with their good play by going to MacMurray and ending the Highlanders title hopes 41-30. It looked to be a good game going in and they did not disappoint, but in the end MacMurray couldn't go blow for blow offensively with the Panthers who's balanced attack racked 534 yards in total offense (250 rushing, 284 passing). Greenville has probably stamped themselves as the early favorite for next season with their continued good play from a very young roster. As for MacMurray they will lose 9 starters on the offense and defense combined, but do return their QB and most of their key defensive players. Fill a few holes and they are right back in the hunt next season.
That is back-to-back 4-0 weeks on the late start to the games analysis for the UMAC, now the question is there a single individual out there who is reading this board? :)
Yep, appreciate the work.
Any insight (AO??) into why Northwestern was such a disappointment this year? Picked 1/2 by the coaches pre-season and down in the cellar now. What's up?
Quote from: hazzben on November 04, 2019, 11:50:24 AM
Any insight (AO??) into why Northwestern was such a disappointment this year? Picked 1/2 by the coaches pre-season and down in the cellar now. What's up?
Northwestern timeline,
2014 - 8-2 Overall, 7-2 Conference
2015 - 8-2, 8-1
2016 - 9-2, 8-1, playoff appearance
March of 2017 Head Coach Kirk Talley resigns and DC is promoted to HC.
2017 - 6-4, 6-3
2018 - 5-5, 5-4
2019 - 2-6, 2-4 so far
Is Northwestern not getting the players? A look at their roster makes me think they are closer to a middle to low level MIAC roster and not a UMAC roster. They have size in both the volume of the roster and physical build of their players. Most UMAC rosters are in the high 40's to low 60's in volume, Northwestern is over 80 players. The UMAC is littered with 160 pound DB's, 190 pound LB's, 170 pound RB's and 200 pound TE's, but Northwestern has 200+ pound DB's, 245 pound MLB, a 220 pound hammer for a RB, a pair of 240+ pound TE's. On athletic size alone Northwestern should be overwhelming most of the UMAC. In weekly roster comparisons Northwestern seems to be the larger AND more talented team in most of their matchups.
It is not fair of me to point the finger at Coach Moore or anyone else, but if Northwestern is looking for answers for the slow decline they have had the past 3 season they should first look at Coach Moore as a leader of a team. Is Moore an example of the Peter principle, was his ceiling that of a DC? Just how much importance does the institution put on winning? Is it enough to push one of their own out for the sake of a few more win? What is the economic impact of not fielding a winning team for the school? Maybe I have headed down an empty rabbit hole and the issues are something completely different, but if I was the one looking for answers I would first look at the leadership in the locker room.
Quote from: Baldini on November 04, 2019, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 04, 2019, 11:50:24 AM
Any insight (AO??) into why Northwestern was such a disappointment this year? Picked 1/2 by the coaches pre-season and down in the cellar now. What's up?
Northwestern timeline,
2014 - 8-2 Overall, 7-2 Conference
2015 - 8-2, 8-1
2016 - 9-2, 8-1, playoff appearance
March of 2017 Head Coach Kirk Talley resigns and DC is promoted to HC.
2017 - 6-4, 6-3
2018 - 5-5, 5-4
2019 - 2-6, 2-4 so far
Is Northwestern not getting the players? A look at their roster makes me think they are closer to a middle to low level MIAC roster and not a UMAC roster. They have size in both the volume of the roster and physical build of their players. Most UMAC rosters are in the high 40's to low 60's in volume, Northwestern is over 80 players. The UMAC is littered with 160 pound DB's, 190 pound LB's, 170 pound RB's and 200 pound TE's, but Northwestern has 200+ pound DB's, 245 pound MLB, a 220 pound hammer for a RB, a pair of 240+ pound TE's. On athletic size alone Northwestern should be overwhelming most of the UMAC. In weekly roster comparisons Northwestern seems to be the larger AND more talented team in most of their matchups.
It is not fair of me to point the finger at Coach Moore or anyone else, but if Northwestern is looking for answers for the slow decline they have had the past 3 season they should first look at Coach Moore as a leader of a team. Is Moore an example of the Peter principle, was his ceiling that of a DC? Just how much importance does the institution put on winning? Is it enough to push one of their own out for the sake of a few more win? What is the economic impact of not fielding a winning team for the school? Maybe I have headed down an empty rabbit hole and the issues are something completely different, but if I was the one looking for answers I would first look at the leadership in the locker room.
I think the players are there, we've just struggled to get the passing game going. Last year the defense was good enough to win the conference. Martin Luther also deserves a little credit for building up their program, we can't just roll over them like we used to 5 years ago.
The 4 games this weekend could shape up to be two very good games and two over matched ones.
Westminster makes the 520 mile trip north to face Northwestern in what I think has the making of a good game. QB Wyatt Ellis returned last week for the Blue Jays and their offense again began to score points, he will stress the Northwestern defense on Saturday. But I believe this game will be about Northwestern and their Seniors on Senior Day. Northwestern has had a very disappointing season by their standards and Saturday will be their opportunity to flush all of that from their systems. Westminster's run defense has been good most of the season giving up 103.3 YPG, but I look for Northwestern is set the tone early with their big RB Payton Bowdry. And I look for that talented defense of the Eagles that was tops in the UMAC in both 2017 and 2018 to show up large. One game I will be checking in on.
St. Scholastica travels to Minnesota-Morris to face the Cougars. This is another week that appears to be a bad match up on paper for Minnesota-Morris, the Saints score at a clip of 34.1 PPG and the Cougars give up 36.0 PPG on average. M-M was shutout last weekend and gained only 2 first downs in the process, I do believe they will be much more effective this week at home and against a defense that has given up 376 YPG themselves. The Saints should continue their winning ways this week in fairly easy fashion. Good news for Morris is that the volleyball team is in the conference championship game this weekend, Go Cougars!
Iowa Wesleyan travels to Greenville. This is a huge mismatch on paper and Greenville is playing as well as anyone in the UMAC right now. The Panthers should build an early lead and clear the benches in the 2nd half. Better days are ahead for the Tigers, just not Saturday.
Martin Luther travels the 511 miles to Jacksonville to take on MacMurray. If MacMurray had gotten the win last week again Greenville this game would of been for the conference title, but now the Highlanders can only hope to play the spoiler and help Greenville. The game features the top 2 offenses in the UMAC with MLC at 453 YPG and MacMurray at 449 YPG. The Highlanders will attempt to make this a shootout, the Knights defense who is #1 in scoring (16.3), #1 in rushing (57.5), #1 in passing (164.4) will attempt to slow the high octane MacMurray offense. MLC has a repeat sequence season from a year ago going for themselves. Their schedule is a match of last season with the same opponents in the same order and their bye on the same weekend, both seasons they opened with a lose to Gustavus Adolphus followed by wins in every game until the playoffs. Last season MLC clinched the conference title with a win against MacMurray, does the repeat sequence season continue on Saturday with MLC clinching the title again? Is another playoff visit to St. John's in their future? Their is still work to be done, but something fun to watch none the less.
Quote from: AO on November 07, 2019, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: Baldini on November 04, 2019, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 04, 2019, 11:50:24 AM
Any insight (AO??) into why Northwestern was such a disappointment this year? Picked 1/2 by the coaches pre-season and down in the cellar now. What's up?
Northwestern timeline,
2014 - 8-2 Overall, 7-2 Conference
2015 - 8-2, 8-1
2016 - 9-2, 8-1, playoff appearance
March of 2017 Head Coach Kirk Talley resigns and DC is promoted to HC.
2017 - 6-4, 6-3
2018 - 5-5, 5-4
2019 - 2-6, 2-4 so far
Is Northwestern not getting the players? A look at their roster makes me think they are closer to a middle to low level MIAC roster and not a UMAC roster. They have size in both the volume of the roster and physical build of their players. Most UMAC rosters are in the high 40's to low 60's in volume, Northwestern is over 80 players. The UMAC is littered with 160 pound DB's, 190 pound LB's, 170 pound RB's and 200 pound TE's, but Northwestern has 200+ pound DB's, 245 pound MLB, a 220 pound hammer for a RB, a pair of 240+ pound TE's. On athletic size alone Northwestern should be overwhelming most of the UMAC. In weekly roster comparisons Northwestern seems to be the larger AND more talented team in most of their matchups.
It is not fair of me to point the finger at Coach Moore or anyone else, but if Northwestern is looking for answers for the slow decline they have had the past 3 season they should first look at Coach Moore as a leader of a team. Is Moore an example of the Peter principle, was his ceiling that of a DC? Just how much importance does the institution put on winning? Is it enough to push one of their own out for the sake of a few more win? What is the economic impact of not fielding a winning team for the school? Maybe I have headed down an empty rabbit hole and the issues are something completely different, but if I was the one looking for answers I would first look at the leadership in the locker room.
I think the players are there, we've just struggled to get the passing game going. Last year the defense was good enough to win the conference. Martin Luther also deserves a little credit for building up their program, we can't just roll over them like we used to 5 years ago.
AO, is there any restlessness with the alumni about the football program or it just to early for that? Martin Luther does deserve credit, but is that sustainable for them? From the outside Northwestern has soo many more resources than most others in the UMAC, it doesn't feel like they should be taking one of the backseats in football. IMHO
Good luck to the women's soccer and volleyball teams playing in their title games on Saturday.
By the way, I tuned into the volleyball last night in the 3rd set and that was a fun watch. Gotta love playoff action.
I don't foresee a Martin Luther-St. John's game this year after SJU fell out of contention for a high seed.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2019, 12:22:20 PM
I don't foresee a Martin Luther-St. John's game this year after SJU fell out of contention for a high seed.
Me either, that was for all the Johnnies out there. I'm thinking Wartburg?
Quote from: Baldini on November 07, 2019, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2019, 12:22:20 PM
I don't foresee a Martin Luther-St. John's game this year after SJU fell out of contention for a high seed.
Me either, that was for all the Johnnies out there. I'm thinking Wartburg?
Maybe if Wartburg holds serve. More likely, whoever the #1 seed is in whichever region the place Martin Luther.
Whitewater would be on the short list.
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 07, 2019, 12:35:21 PM
Whitewater would be on the short list.
You very well may be correct. I was just thinking a 2 lose MWC winner would be closer to Whitewater and Martin Luther closer to Waverly, but think both are strong possibilities without a doubt.
Quote from: Baldini on November 07, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
AO, is there any restlessness with the alumni about the football program or it just to early for that? Martin Luther does deserve credit, but is that sustainable for them? From the outside Northwestern has soo many more resources than most others in the UMAC, it doesn't feel like they should be taking one of the backseats in football. IMHO
Good luck to the women's soccer and volleyball teams playing in their title games on Saturday.
By the way, I tuned into the volleyball last night in the 3rd set and that was a fun watch. Gotta love playoff action.
No I don't sense any restlessness. For Martin Luther it's definitely harder to sustain their current level as they're recruiting from a pretty limited pool of players.
I thought I was going to get out of the volleyball game early last night, had a match point in that 3rd set. Kudos to Superior for making it a game. We've mostly dominated the UMAC in volleyball recently but there is a ton of talent on the other teams.
As for the Knights possible playoff matchups, maybe they'll get sent to Chapman. I'm sure every highly ranked West team is just hoping for anybody but the Johnnies.
Quote from: AO on November 07, 2019, 01:16:53 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 07, 2019, 12:03:24 PM
AO, is there any restlessness with the alumni about the football program or it just to early for that? Martin Luther does deserve credit, but is that sustainable for them? From the outside Northwestern has soo many more resources than most others in the UMAC, it doesn't feel like they should be taking one of the backseats in football. IMHO
Good luck to the women's soccer and volleyball teams playing in their title games on Saturday.
By the way, I tuned into the volleyball last night in the 3rd set and that was a fun watch. Gotta love playoff action.
No I don't sense any restlessness. For Martin Luther it's definitely harder to sustain their current level as they're recruiting from a pretty limited pool of players.
I thought I was going to get out of the volleyball game early last night, had a match point in that 3rd set. Kudos to Superior for making it a game. We've mostly dominated the UMAC in volleyball recently but there is a ton of talent on the other teams.
As for the Knights possible playoff matchups, maybe they'll get sent to Chapman. I'm sure every highly ranked West team is just hoping for anybody but the Johnnies.
The end of that 3rd set was special. The UW-Superior coach wasn't going to let the team quit, called a timeout like every other point. Was great stuff.
Martin Luther will lose 8 starters on their defense that have played together going back to their 0-10 freshman season. Rebuilding a defense for anyone is tough, might be even tougher with their recruiting pool.
Interesting thought on Chapman, that is one I had not considered.
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 07, 2019, 12:35:21 PM
Whitewater would be on the short list.
That'll be a brutal bus ride after getting triple stomped.
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Quote from: wally_wabash on November 07, 2019, 12:35:21 PM
Whitewater would be on the short list.
That'll be a brutal bus ride after getting triple stomped.
The only potential brutal bus ride left on Martin Luther's schedule is the one back from MacMurray this weekend. If they lose that one it probably is a tough trip home. Their is no brutal bus rides home for any UMAC football team from a playoff game, they are not delusional. If Martin Luther does win and reps the UMAC, they will and should be very proud of what they have accomplished in the past 4 seasons at MLC. Going from 0-10 four years ago to back-to-back playoffs is something they can carry with pride the rest of their lives regardless of the playoff outcome.
I agree that there is much to be proud of at MLC. Still, a solid thumping always hurts, and a bus ride from New Ulm to Whitewater is unpleasant no matter the outcome of the game.
Quote from: Baldini on November 07, 2019, 11:09:37 AM
The 4 games this weekend could shape up to be two very good games and two over matched ones.
Westminster makes the 520 mile trip north to face Northwestern in what I think has the making of a good game. QB Wyatt Ellis returned last week for the Blue Jays and their offense again began to score points, he will stress the Northwestern defense on Saturday. But I believe this game will be about Northwestern and their Seniors on Senior Day. Northwestern has had a very disappointing season by their standards and Saturday will be their opportunity to flush all of that from their systems. Westminster's run defense has been good most of the season giving up 103.3 YPG, but I look for Northwestern is set the tone early with their big RB Payton Bowdry. And I look for that talented defense of the Eagles that was tops in the UMAC in both 2017 and 2018 to show up large. One game I will be checking in on.
St. Scholastica travels to Minnesota-Morris to face the Cougars. This is another week that appears to be a bad match up on paper for Minnesota-Morris, the Saints score at a clip of 34.1 PPG and the Cougars give up 36.0 PPG on average. M-M was shutout last weekend and gained only 2 first downs in the process, I do believe they will be much more effective this week at home and against a defense that has given up 376 YPG themselves. The Saints should continue their winning ways this week in fairly easy fashion. Good news for Morris is that the volleyball team is in the conference championship game this weekend, Go Cougars!
Iowa Wesleyan travels to Greenville. This is a huge mismatch on paper and Greenville is playing as well as anyone in the UMAC right now. The Panthers should build an early lead and clear the benches in the 2nd half. Better days are ahead for the Tigers, just not Saturday.
Martin Luther travels the 511 miles to Jacksonville to take on MacMurray. If MacMurray had gotten the win last week again Greenville this game would of been for the conference title, but now the Highlanders can only hope to play the spoiler and help Greenville. The game features the top 2 offenses in the UMAC with MLC at 453 YPG and MacMurray at 449 YPG. The Highlanders will attempt to make this a shootout, the Knights defense who is #1 in scoring (16.3), #1 in rushing (57.5), #1 in passing (164.4) will attempt to slow the high octane MacMurray offense. MLC has a repeat sequence season from a year ago going for themselves. Their schedule is a match of last season with the same opponents in the same order and their bye on the same weekend, both seasons they opened with a lose to Gustavus Adolphus followed by wins in every game until the playoffs. Last season MLC clinched the conference title with a win against MacMurray, does the repeat sequence season continue on Saturday with MLC clinching the title again? Is another playoff visit to St. John's in their future? Their is still work to be done, but something fun to watch none the less.
Weather today,
Westminster @ Northwestern - Game time temp. 38 degrees, chance of rain showers, slight winds.
St. Scholastica @ Minnesota-Morris - Game time temp. 34 degrees, chance of rain showers, slight winds.
Iowa Wesleyan @ Greenville - Game time temp. 52 degrees, partly sunny, slight winds.
Martin Luther @ MacMurray - Game time temp. 51 degrees, sunny, winds up to 12 MPH.
Martin Luther clinches the AQ in the UMAC with a 35-22 win against MacMurray.
Recapping yesterdays games.
Northwestern came ready to play yesterday and gave their Seniors a good sendoff. On the first play from scrimmage Ryan Flanigan completed a pass to Evan Pruitt for a 75 yards TD and the Eagles built a 17-0 lead which was enough for the defense to keep Westminster at bay for most of the day. The Blue Jays added a TD with 16 seconds remaining to cut the final margin to 10 points in the 27-17 Northwestern victory. Good win against a good opponent. With a trip to Iowa Wesleyan for the season finale the Eagles can still salvage a 4-4 conference season and build some momentum towards next season.
St. Scholastica cruised to the win against Minnesota-Morris as Zach Edwards threw for 400 yards and 4 TD's, but it was good to see the Cougars get their offense rolling a bit yesterday. M-M manage to rack-up over 400 yards in offense and 29 points for themselves, but it was not enough as the Saints take the victory 44-29.
Greenville handled their business to get a 21-0 win against Iowa Wesleyan, but a big tip of the hat to Iowa Wesleyan team and coaches for a very gritty effort yesterday. Their defense battled all day, holding Greenville's potent attack to 243 yards in total offense. Held one of the conferences leading backs to under a 100 yards rushing and held Greenville to only 4 rushing and 4 passing first downs on the whole day. The intestinal fortitude was awesome, hold your heads high today men, you deserve to.
Martin Luther claimed the AQ against MacMurray for the second year in a row. The Highlanders had some moments moving the ball, but the Knights defense came up with 4 TO's including 3 INT's on the day. Martin Luther's rushing attack had another huge day piling up 429 yards on the ground and dominated the time of possession to get the 35-22 win in the end.
Martin Luther instead gets sent to.....Wheaton. A bit surprised that was the case since the NACC Champ Aurora is heading to St. John's but probably the best to avoid rematches I guess. MLC has their work cut out for them against one of the top defenses in the country.
Final UMAC Standings
1. Martin Luther 9-1 (8-0)
2. Greenville 8-2 (7-1)
3. St. Scholastica 7-3 (5-3)
4. MacMurray 5-5 (5-3)
5. Northwestern (MN) 4-6 (4-4)
6. Westminster 4-6 (4-4)
7. Crown 3-7 (2-6)
8. Minnesota-Morris 1-9 (1-7)
9. Iowa Wesleyan 0-10 (0-8)
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2019, 02:07:32 PM
Martin Luther instead gets sent to.....Wheaton. A bit surprised that was the case since the NACC Champ Aurora is heading to St. John's but probably the best to avoid rematches I guess.
On yesterday's ATN podcast, Catanzaro talked about how they tried to avoid rematches from previous year's brackets. ML to SJU is a quick jaunt, but I am glad to see a new team in Collegeville.
Congrats to MLC on the league championship!
Thanks for being a pod listener! Regardless of rematches, Martin Luther is definitely the 8 seed in that bracket and should be sent to the 1 since it's within 500 miles.
Not disputing for a second that a trip to Wheaton wasn't the right call by the committee for MLC, but I was one of the few people on the planet that was probably pulling for a return trip to Collegeville.
This is not to suggest that MLC would even have the slightest of chances against St. John's, but to me it would of been the best way to judge the progress MLC has made from a year ago. When I tuned into the playoff game last season it was to as much to watch a St. John's team that I had convinced myself was the best team in the country as anything else. But the biggest take I took away from watching the game was how overwhelmed by the moment the MLC players were. From fumbling the opening kickoff to jumping offsides to not even having the right number of players on the field. Unable to preform the simplest of actions. It was a classic deer in the headlights experience for the whole team and got ugly fast. The results more than likely would of been similar if they had drawn St. John's, but as a competitor I would bet that most of the MLC players would of liked a do over of last season just to get that taste out of their mouths. Just a chance to prove 84-6 was not who they were. Just a chance to go out and play with the confidence they play with any other week and let the end result be what the end result would be.
The 2019 UMAC All-Conference honors are out.
Most Valuable Offensive Player: Joshuah Kren, Jr., Martin Luther
Most Valuable Defensive Player: Ian Paulsen, Sr., Martin Luther
Most Valuable Special Teams Player: Drew Shipley, Sr., Minnesota Morris
Most Valuable Lineman: Anthony Esquivel, Jr., Greenville
Coach of the Year: Robbie Schomaker, Greenville
Interesting that last years MVOP was Austin DeNoyer for Martin Luther and he probably had a better season this season than last, but still lost out to his backfield mate in Joshuah Kren.
https://umacathletics.com/news/2019/11/19/football-awards.aspx
In listening to the podcast today it was good to hear Keith McMillan talk about Hope and the MIAA getting a win this weekend and what it would do for a program and conference. Not every team is going into the tournament with the same ideas of what success is. Some have real hopes of winning it all, others just winning a game is a big step forward and others are just trying to continue to build with a positive showing.
Which got me thinking about Martin Luther College and what in the end will be a positive showing. With what I personally feel is one of the worse possible draws for MLC in ending up with Wheaton and their run defense, I start with these 3 goals.
1.) Score. That may seem like a small and silly goal for some, but Wheaton has shutout 5 of their 10 opponents and allowed a total of 62 total points on the season. North Central's 21 points was the only team to top the 13 point barrier against them.
2.) Rush for a 100 yards on the day. No team has reached 100 yards rushing against Wheaton this season and that would be a goal that MLC could look back at with pride some day. Most are going to react that that will never happen, but MLC runs an offense that is designed to force teams to read and react. It takes away some of the athletic advantages a defensive team may have and keeps them from playing downhill. Play undisciplined and MLC does have a player in Joshuah Kren that can take it the distance. Think of Navy or Air Force and the problems they give major programs at times. MLC rushed for 335.7 yards a game this season which is 2nd in all of D3. Granted their level of competition is not CCIW like, but impressive none the less no matter who a team is playing.
3.) Keep the margin under 50. I doubt anyone with the program is thinking like that today, but I can because I have no connection to anyone or thing there and I'm just thinking about the positive steps to building a program. This is a program that was 0-10 in this SR. classes first season and the strides made by them and Coach Stein are somewhat remarkable.
I give a tip of my hat to the 8 SR's starting on this MLC defense. All 8 have been there from day 1 and lived through the winless season and the forty and fifty point defeats. They stayed the course to the point that this season they were the #1 defense in the UMAC in scoring defense, total and rushing defense, sacks and interceptions. I don't know if they will even cause the Wheaton offense to break stride tomorrow, but that should not takeaway from how far they have come. This is a program that keeps taking steps and has traveled an amazing distance in four seasons. Play with confidents MLC. I know it is cliché, but play every play as if it is your last and at the end of the day hold your heads high, because you have made one hell of a journey!
No surprise that Wheaton won the game by a large margin, but I believe it was a positive stepping stone for MLC.
The way the game unfolded the score should of been worse if not for the MLC defense playing better than I thought they could. Wheaton returned the opening KO to midfield and after a 5 yard run on 1st down, Wheaton went deep and MLC's Ben Arndt picked it off at the 7 yard line. But the MLC offense really struggled against the Wheaton defense early on and went 3 and out. It again set up a short field for Wheaton, who started 6 of their first 7 drives in MLC territory. Wheaton was playing downhill early and often and it helped lead to the 31-0 halftime lead.
MLC has a good starting secondary, but Wheaton found a weakness early on by going after a third cover guy. The starters held up as well as one could of expected, Ben Arndt had the INT. early and Aiden Holien had 4 pass breakups. Safety Ian Paulsen who was the DPOY in the UMAC played well and led MLC in tackles with 14 on the day and Joe Herrewig had a pair of breakups and probably should of had a couple of picks. In the end Wheaton threw for 273 yards and 4 TD's and 4 TD passes most often will win a team a game.
I set 3 goals that I felt would be program building goals going into the game and all 3 were achieved by MLC. First was to just score and believe it or not I was fairly confident they would do that. At some point I felt there would be a mental error on the Wheaton defense and MLC would get Joshuah Kren in space with the ball and he would be gone. They did not fail me there, midway point of the 3rd Kren found space and went 44 yards for the score. Second was to rush for 100 yards as a team and be the first team to rush for a 100 yards against Wheaton all season. In the end they were well over that at 156 yards rushing. Last was to keep the margin under 50 and they did that, but as the game unfolded in the second half that was a slight disappointment to me. With the score 44-7 midway of the 4th period the MLC defense made a good defensive stop and forced a punt, but the punt was mishandled (keep your head up Benjamin Hodel, it did not cost your team a victory and it was a good learning experience) and set Wheaton up on the MLC doorstep again. Wheaton scored on a 3rd and 15 QB run that went for the final score. Margin ends up at 44.
The interesting thing to me to watch moving forward with MLC is to see if they can continue to build on this or if they peaked here. They lose 8 starters on their defense and that is a tough thing to replace at any program, now do it at a program that gets almost all of their players from 15-20 Lutheran High Schools. Should be interesting to watch playout.
Congratulations to Wheaton as they move on in the tournament. They have a hell of a good team and I hope they go on and win it all, they sure have the talent to do it. Good Luck Wheaton.
St. Scholastica 2020 Football Schedule
9/5 At UW-River Falls
9/12 Hamline
9/19 Bye
9/26 At MacMurray
10/3 Minnesota-Morris
10/10 Greenville
10/17 At Iowa Wesleyan
10/24 Northwestern
10/31 At Crown
11/7 Westminster
11/14 At Martin Luther
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2019, 02:07:32 PM
Martin Luther instead gets sent to.....Wheaton. A bit surprised that was the case since the NACC Champ Aurora is heading to St. John's but probably the best to avoid rematches I guess. MLC has their work cut out for them against one of the top defenses in the country.
Final UMAC Standings
1. Martin Luther 9-1 (8-0)
2. Greenville 8-2 (7-1)
3. St. Scholastica 7-3 (5-3)
4. MacMurray 5-5 (5-3)
5. Northwestern (MN) 4-6 (4-4)
6. Westminster 4-6 (4-4)
7. Crown 3-7 (2-6)
8. Minnesota-Morris 1-9 (1-7)
9. Iowa Wesleyan 0-10 (0-8)
2019 UMAC Football Preseason Coaches' Poll1. Martin Luther – 61 points (6 First Place Votes)
2. Northwestern – 54 points (2 First Place Votes)
3. MacMurray – 49 points
4. St. Scholastica – 47 points (1 First Place Votes)
5. Westminster – 35 points
6. Greenville – 29 points
7. Minnesota Morris – 22 points
8. Iowa Wesleyan – 17 points
9. Crown – 10 points
Greenville really came through.
Greenville's 36-0 win against Westminster and their 41-30 win at MacMurray were two of the more impressive wins in the UMAC this past season. If they can effectively replace their QB for next season they will be a strong contender for the UMAC title in 2020.
Iowa Wesleyan has hired MD Daniels as their new head football coach.
https://www.iwtigers.com/article/2670
Quote from: Baldini on December 12, 2019, 09:31:26 PM
Iowa Wesleyan has hired MD Daniels as their new head football coach.
https://www.iwtigers.com/article/2670
50 head coaches in 129 years?!?! Average stay in Mt Pleasant is 2.58 years. Wow.
From my reading and research, it was pretty common for non-major schools to have a different coach every year up until the 1920s, or so, so IWC could have burnt off 25 coaches that way.
Just speculation, have not researched the IWC coaching history specifically.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2019, 11:17:39 AM
From my reading and research, it was pretty common for non-major schools to have a different coach every year up until the 1920s, or so, so IWC could have burnt off 25 coaches that way.
Just speculation, have not researched the IWC coaching history specifically.
Possibly the 2 most famous coaches to trek through Iowa Wesleyan are Hal Mumme and Mike Leach.
It is a lot of coaching change over the years. IWU has only had one coach in their history make it 10 seasons and that was Glen Bingham from 1926-1936. Some of the problem might be the hiring practice of hiring young coaches that are using the situation as a stepping stone and not making final destination types of hires.
I like MD Daniels as a coach there, but if he does some good at IWU he is probably moving on quickly and the revolving door will revolve again. Ironically Daniels has some history with Hal Mumme who coached IWU from 1989-1991 and lead them to their only 10 win season in school history. Mumme parlayed that to a HC job at Valdosta State from 1992-1996 and HC at Kentucky from 1997-2000.
The winds of coaching change has blown often in Mount Pleasant, Iowa.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 13, 2019, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2019, 11:17:39 AM
From my reading and research, it was pretty common for non-major schools to have a different coach every year up until the 1920s, or so, so IWC could have burnt off 25 coaches that way.
Just speculation, have not researched the IWC coaching history specifically.
Possibly the 2 most famous coaches to trek through Iowa Wesleyan are Hal Mumme and Mike Leach.
I had forgot that Leach was an Asst. Coach under Mumme. We never know what we might be watching in D-3. Good catch RT.
Quote from: Baldini on December 13, 2019, 11:50:03 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 13, 2019, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2019, 11:17:39 AM
From my reading and research, it was pretty common for non-major schools to have a different coach every year up until the 1920s, or so, so IWC could have burnt off 25 coaches that way.
Just speculation, have not researched the IWC coaching history specifically.
Possibly the 2 most famous coaches to trek through Iowa Wesleyan are Hal Mumme and Mike Leach.
I had forgot that Leach was an Asst. Coach under Mumme. We never know what we might be watching in D-3. Good catch RT.
And Dana Holgorsen was their QB at Iowa Wesleyan, and assistant coach with one or both of them with stops in Valdosta State and Texas Tech.
Hopefully, IWU can successfully navigate some troubled financial waters they currently find themselves in. They almost closed their doors last academic year.
dolittledog:
That is not good to hear that IWU is in some severe financial stress. I had not heard that. However, given the enrollment number, it is not all that surprising and similar to some of the other schools that are facing those circumstances and which have been mentioned by others in the course of discussion regarding that topic on these various boards ( Beloit, Earlham, , etc.) Hopefully, IWU will be able to overcome that. Yes, wishing that the new HC will have success to improve/stabilize the program.
Quote from: Baldini on December 12, 2019, 09:31:26 PM
Iowa Wesleyan has hired MD Daniels as their new head football coach.
https://www.iwtigers.com/article/2670
Kiefer Price named as the Assistant Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator.
https://www.iwtigers.com/article/2700
2020 schedules.
Martin Luther College
9/5 Concordia-Wisconsin
9/12 @ Wisconsin Lutheran
9/19 Westminster
9/26 @ Greenville
10/3 MacMurray
10/10 @ Minnesota-Morris
10/17 Bye
10/24 Crown
10/31 @ Northwestern
11/7 @ Iowa Wesleyan
11/14 St. Scholastica
2020 schedules.
Greenville
9/5 Millikin
9/12 @ Rockford
9/19 MacMurray
9/26 Martin Luther
10/3 @ Iowa Wesleyan
10/10 @ St. Scholastica
10/17 Crown
10/24 @ Minnesota-Morris
10/31 Bye
11/7 Northwestern
11/14 @ Westminster
2020 schedule
Northwestern
9/5 Wheaton
9/12 @ Buena Vista
9/19 @ Crown
9/26 Minnesota-Morris
10/3 @ Westminster
10/10 Bye
10/17 MacMurray
10/24 @ St. Scholastica
10/31 Martin Luther
11/7 @ Greenville
11/14 Iowa Wesleyan
2020 schedule
St. Scholastica
9/5 Hamline
9/12 @ UW-River Falls
9/19 Bye
9/26 @ MacMurray
10/3 Minnesota-Morris
10/10 Greenville
10/17 @ Iowa Wesleyan
10/24 Northwestern
10/31 @ Crown
11/7 Westminster
11/14 @ Martin Luther
Northwestern have a chance to upset Wheaton the first game? Hmmm
Quote from: D O.C. on February 03, 2020, 05:05:23 PM
Northwestern have a chance to upset Wheaton the first game? Hmmm
Northwestern should be one of the teams to beat in the UMAC for 2020, but them beating Wheaton is a very tall order. IMHO
Quote from: Baldini on February 04, 2020, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on February 03, 2020, 05:05:23 PM
Northwestern have a chance to upset Wheaton the first game? Hmmm
Northwestern should be one of the teams to beat in the UMAC for 2020, but them beating Wheaton is a very tall order. IMHO
Wheaton should be a top 5 team in D-3 next year. They will return 16 of their starters. This includes their starting QB, 4 of their starting 5 O-line, their top RB, their fastest WR, 3 of their 4 d-line (including their All-American DT), all of their LBers. and their all-American corner. In fact, 12 of their all-conference players are returning for next year.
What about their "fullback" and kicker? Too soon? :P
Quote from: DuffMan on February 04, 2020, 09:46:59 PM
What about their "fullback" and kicker? Too soon? :P
Fullback (and starting Center) will be back. Redemption soon to follow. Kicker is gone. New Keeker era to begin.
Quote from: USee on February 05, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
Redemption soon to follow.
I'd welcome another SJU/Wheaton matchup! How about Collegeville next time? Two awesome teams. We'll have to see how SJU reloads--tons of talent, but Erdmann will leave a huge hole to fill, not to menion 2 AA o-linemen. We'll see what the Johnnies can piece together. Game #1 vs. Aurora will be a stiff test. Zimbleman gave the Johnnies fits in 2019.
It would be great if St. John's were willing to travel that far for a home-and-home. Hope that is something we see more of in the future.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2020, 11:18:20 AM
It would be great if St. John's were willing to travel that far for a home-and-home.
Agreed, but I'm not holding my breath. Also, I'm not sure that the playoff ramifications (i.e. pool C) make that game a wise idea from a coach's perspective. A win looks great. A loss, though...
I see on the Minnesota-Morris Twitter that they announced the commitment of 4 football recruits. LB's Sam Olson and Boden Sperr, OL Christian Diederich, DE/P Luke Wittner.
Martin Luther College has added a high quality commit with Carson Oestreich from Pierce, Nebraska. A member of the state runner-ups who rushed for 230 yards and 5 TD's in the semi final game. Had an offer from NAIA Morningside, but chose MLC instead.
https://twitter.com/CarsonOestreich/status/1225579980920442880
Rick Grant, a recruit from Osseo (Minnesota) High School, commits to play college football at College of St. Scholastica.
Height: 5' 11"
Weight: 175 lbs.
Positions: TB, MLB, P
Greg Fletcher, a recruit from Christopher High School (Ill.), commits to play college football at Greenville University.
Height: 5' 11"
Weight: 175 lbs.
Positions: HB, FS, P
Minnesota-Morris has added Braeden Poole from Mountain Home, Idaho and Jeffery Burvee from Edgerton, Minnesota as commitments to their twitter feed.
The UMAC will be one less this season:
https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2020/03/macmurray-closing-down-at-years-end
Disappointing as always to hear the news of a closure. Everyone knows that more will follow, but disappointing regardless.
Just a heads up Pat, the UMAC has re-did their conference football schedule with the closing of MacMurray and what you have on D3 Football is no longer correct.
Quote from: Baldini on April 01, 2020, 12:18:36 PM
Just a heads up Pat, the UMAC has re-did their conference football schedule with the closing of MacMurray and what you have on D3 Football is no longer correct.
Do you have a link with the new schedule? There is no 2020 schedule on the UMAC website's football page.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 01, 2020, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: Baldini on April 01, 2020, 12:18:36 PM
Just a heads up Pat, the UMAC has re-did their conference football schedule with the closing of MacMurray and what you have on D3 Football is no longer correct.
Do you have a link with the new schedule? There is no 2020 schedule on the UMAC website's football page.
I also checked the UMAC site and got nothing, but Martin Luther and St. Scholastica have updated their schedules on their sites. I also checked Northwestern and Greenville, but they still show the old schedules. I would hope the UMAC site would release the complete schedule, but they don't do a very good job with such things, so I would not told my breath waiting for them to release information. It is time consuming but in the UMAC you usually need to go from one school site to the next to get what you are looking for. Back to square one.
Quote from: Baldini on April 01, 2020, 01:57:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 01, 2020, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: Baldini on April 01, 2020, 12:18:36 PM
Just a heads up Pat, the UMAC has re-did their conference football schedule with the closing of MacMurray and what you have on D3 Football is no longer correct.
Do you have a link with the new schedule? There is no 2020 schedule on the UMAC website's football page.
I also checked the UMAC site and got nothing, but Martin Luther and St. Scholastica have updated their schedules on their sites. I also checked Northwestern and Greenville, but they still show the old schedules. I would hope the UMAC site would release the complete schedule, but they don't do a very good job with such things, so I would not told my breath waiting for them to release information. It is time consuming but in the UMAC you usually need to go from one school site to the next to get what you are looking for. Back to square one.
With all the moving parts, I don't think I can make changes for just one or two teams at a time, but I'll contact the conference office.
Understandable.
Alright -- I think this is all sorted now.
The eight UMAC teams are playing non-conference games against each other in Week 10 of the season. Each of those games is a conference rematch.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 01, 2020, 02:58:52 PM
Alright -- I think this is all sorted now.
The eight UMAC teams are playing non-conference games against each other in Week 10 of the season. Each of those games is a conference rematch.
You are the man Pat.
https://www.d3football.com/conf/umac/2020/schedule
The UMAC will be down to six football programs in the fall of 2021:
https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2020/06/iowa-wesleyan-leaving-d3
Hard to come up with potential schools to join the UMAC. For the past few years I had thought that UM-Crookston would be a candidate to join D3 and the UMAC would be a good fit, but they dropped football and are staying put in D2. Had some hope that Macalester would come aboard, but they are headed back to MIAC. Former members Rockford and Eureka probably have little reason to depart the NACC. Tough road ahead for the UMAC and football I believe.
Quote from: Baldini on June 09, 2020, 02:23:18 PM
Hard to come up with potential schools to join the UMAC. For the past few years I had thought that UM-Crookston would be a candidate to join D3 and the UMAC would be a good fit, but they dropped football and are staying put in D2. Had some hope that Macalester would come aboard, but they are headed back to MIAC. Former members Rockford and Eureka probably have little reason to depart the NACC. Tough road ahead for the UMAC and football I believe.
Also hard to come up with potential conferences for UMAC football schools to join.
What scenarios would be more likely?
A - The remaining UMAC football schools just carry on as-is?
B - Current UMAC schools without football add the sport?
C - Remaining UMAC football schools look at moves to other conferences? And as affiliate members for football...or full conference moves?
Quote from: doolittledog on June 09, 2020, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: Baldini on June 09, 2020, 02:23:18 PM
Hard to come up with potential schools to join the UMAC. For the past few years I had thought that UM-Crookston would be a candidate to join D3 and the UMAC would be a good fit, but they dropped football and are staying put in D2. Had some hope that Macalester would come aboard, but they are headed back to MIAC. Former members Rockford and Eureka probably have little reason to depart the NACC. Tough road ahead for the UMAC and football I believe.
Also hard to come up with potential conferences for UMAC football schools to join.
What scenarios would be more likely?
A - The remaining UMAC football schools just carry on as-is?
B - Current UMAC schools without football add the sport?
C - Remaining UMAC football schools look at moves to other conferences? And as affiliate members for football...or full conference moves?
Simplest (though not great) solution I came up with is invite Finlandia for everything. They play in the MIAA for football but they will be in the CAC-ACCA for everything else. The travel would be rough, especially heading down U.S. Hwy. 2 in February. But there is no other schools that are currently D3 and likely to be willing to join.
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Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on June 09, 2020, 01:35:45 PM
If I'm counting correctly, this is going to drop the UMAC football conference down to six members.
Crown
MN-Morris
Martin Luther
Northwestern-STP
Westminster
Greenville
MacMurray closed
St. Scholastica headed to MIAC
Iowa Wesleyan headed to NAIA
I'm wondering if there is a better chance of the UMAC picking up a school to get back to seven members or the remaining schools find other conferences for football. The Minnesota schools may have better options (Midwest?) but Greenville and Westminster are really geographic outliers in this scenario. Perhaps Greenville could go the way of their SLIAC brother, Eureka, and try to get into the NACC as an associate member for football, but what will Westminster do? ARC?
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on June 09, 2020, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on June 09, 2020, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: Baldini on June 09, 2020, 02:23:18 PM
Hard to come up with potential schools to join the UMAC. For the past few years I had thought that UM-Crookston would be a candidate to join D3 and the UMAC would be a good fit, but they dropped football and are staying put in D2. Had some hope that Macalester would come aboard, but they are headed back to MIAC. Former members Rockford and Eureka probably have little reason to depart the NACC. Tough road ahead for the UMAC and football I believe.
Also hard to come up with potential conferences for UMAC football schools to join.
What scenarios would be more likely?
A - The remaining UMAC football schools just carry on as-is?
B - Current UMAC schools without football add the sport?
C - Remaining UMAC football schools look at moves to other conferences? And as affiliate members for football...or full conference moves?
Simplest (though not great) solution I came up with is invite Finlandia for everything. They play in the MIAA for football but they will be in the CAC-ACCA for everything else. The travel would be rough, especially heading down U.S. Hwy. 2 in February. But there is no other schools that are currently D3 and likely to be willing to join.
I always thought Finlandia to the UMAC made more sense for them than any other scenario (but you're correct - it's still not great). However that puts Greenville and Westminster in an even worse situation geographically for football. That's a lot of trips to the "upper midwest". Brrrr.
quite surprised Northland College doesn't have football, looks like they have a new on campus stadium that's already lined for football (presumably local high schools use the facility). They're already a full UMAC member. Not all that far from Finlandia either, relatively.
There had been some talk of UW-Superior taking the sport back up as well, but I don't know how serious that is.
Quote from: Caz Bombers on June 09, 2020, 05:10:20 PM
quite surprised Northland College doesn't have football, looks like they have a new on campus stadium that's already lined for football (presumably local high schools use the facility). They're already a full UMAC member. Not all that far from Finlandia either, relatively.
While I think Northland and Findlandia make some sense for football. I would bet you could kiss Greenville and Westminster goodbye for football affiliates with those two additions. And then the UMAC is right back where they started with no AQ for football. Unless you also add UW-Superior. That would be better than the old days with the St. Louis area schools added to the mix.
Quote from: doolittledog on June 09, 2020, 05:22:38 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on June 09, 2020, 05:10:20 PM
quite surprised Northland College doesn't have football, looks like they have a new on campus stadium that's already lined for football (presumably local high schools use the facility). They're already a full UMAC member. Not all that far from Finlandia either, relatively.
While I think Northland and Findlandia make some sense for football. I would bet you could kiss Greenville and Westminster goodbye for football affiliates with those two additions.
I don't think that that's necessarily true. Remember, this is football we're talking about, a sport with a minimal number of contests per season and exclusively weekend travel. At most, a conference only plays a single round-robin in football. That means that Greenville and Westminster would each only have to make a trip every other year to Ashland, WI to play Northland. Now, if the UMAC sweetened the deal for Finlandia by offering full membership in all sports (realistically the only way that Finlandia would ditch the closer travel and better competition of MIAA football), then the two SLIAC schools would each make one trip per year to the shores of Lake Superior, alternating between Northland and Finlandia. And one trip per year is hardly a deal-breaker. Plus, given that it's a Minnesota-based conference, the Panthers and Blue Jays gridders are already used to long road trips, anyway.
Besides, where would Greenville and Westminster go? The whole reason why they're in the UMAC in the first place as associate members for football is because they had no other options for that sport under the D3 umbrella, aside from independent status. And being an indie in D3 football makes scheduling a ridiculously difficult endeavor.
Yeah, but since the SLIAC schools initially joined the UMAC for football. SLIAC schools Blackburn and Principia dropped football. Eureka left for the NACC. MacMurray is closing. Later addition Iowa Wesleyan of moving back to the NAIA. For Greenville and Westminster as the only 2 SLIAC schools left, what once was 2 trips to Minnesota per year and then all their other games against SLIAC teams within a somewhat small geographic footprint. Now they just have each other every other year at home and every other trip being quite a long haul.
But I do see your point about where would Greenville and Westminster go. Really no good options for those two schools.
What about the possibility of Greenville to the Midwest Conference? Probably not a good fit for various reasons?
Quote from: formerd3db on June 09, 2020, 09:10:34 PM
What about the possibility of Greenville to the Midwest Conference? Probably not a good fit for various reasons?
Greenville has some history with a number of teams currently in the NACC as they were members of the late Illini-Badger Conference along with CUC, CUW, Benedictine, and Aurora back when that league folded following the 2007 season. Plus, Greenville's fellow SLIAC-member Eureka is an associate member of the NACC for football.
The NACC now has eight "football members" with St. Norbert beginning football play as the ninth team in 2021(?). A tenth team would still allow for one non-conference game per year. As a sidelight (and this would involve your MIAA-member Hope), I'm not sure what's going to happen to the NACC-MIAA challenge; I'm assuming that that arrangement will be coming to an end (which to me is unfortunate since I enjoyed seeing how my home-state teams from the MIAA fared against my alma mater and opponents on a yearly basis).
Quote from: RFMichigan on June 09, 2020, 09:43:30 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on June 09, 2020, 09:10:34 PM
What about the possibility of Greenville to the Midwest Conference? Probably not a good fit for various reasons?
Greenville has some history with a number of teams currently in the NACC as they were members of the late Illini-Badger Conference along with CUC, CUW, Benedictine, and Aurora back when that league folded following the 2007 season. Plus, Greenville's fellow SLIAC-member Eureka is an associate member of the NACC for football.
The NACC now has eight "football members" with St. Norbert beginning football play as the ninth team in 2021(?). A tenth team would still allow for one non-conference game per year. As a sidelight (and this would involve your MIAA-member Hope), I'm not sure what's going to happen to the NACC-MIAA challenge; I'm assuming that that arrangement will be coming to an end (which to me is unfortunate since I enjoyed seeing how my home-state teams from the MIAA fared against my alma mater and opponents on a yearly basis).
Thanks for the review history, RFM.
Regarding the NACC/MIAA Challenge, I had intended to find out from my contacts as to what the tentative plans are for continuing that arrangement or not. I had made an initial inquiry back in early March, but just at that time, this coronavirus crisis exploded. Thus, it essentially got "put on the back burner, m" however, I will try to find out some information in the near future and report back eventually.
Hope you are staying well. I almost can't believe it is essentially mid June already. I sense that the summer days (when summer officially begins soon) will seem to start flying by quickly.
Quote from: doolittledog on June 09, 2020, 07:28:56 PM
Yeah, but since the SLIAC schools initially joined the UMAC for football. SLIAC schools Blackburn and Principia dropped football. Eureka left for the NACC. MacMurray is closing. Later addition Iowa Wesleyan of moving back to the NAIA. For Greenville and Westminster as the only 2 SLIAC schools left, what once was 2 trips to Minnesota per year and then all their other games against SLIAC teams within a somewhat small geographic footprint. Now they just have each other every other year at home and every other trip being quite a long haul.
But I do see your point about where would Greenville and Westminster go. Really no good options for those two schools.
It was after Blackburn and Principia dropped football that the SLIAC teams joined the UMAC. Remember in 2008 SLIAC sponsored football with Huntingdon and Lagrange as affiliates. It was after that season that Blackburn and Principia dropped football leaving 6 teams and with no chance at the AQ the 4 remaining SLIAC schools then went to the UMAC.
Quote from: Baldini on February 09, 2020, 12:02:58 AM
Martin Luther College has added a high quality commit with Carson Oestreich from Pierce, Nebraska. A member of the state runner-ups who rushed for 230 yards and 5 TD's in the semi final game. Had an offer from NAIA Morningside, but chose MLC instead.
https://twitter.com/CarsonOestreich/status/1225579980920442880
Good catch for MLC. Pierce program has been solid for years and has produced lots of GPAC players (NAIA conference where Morningside is a member). C.O. must be sold on the ministry.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on June 09, 2020, 06:46:34 PM
I don't think that that's necessarily true. Remember, this is football we're talking about, a sport with a minimal number of contests per season and exclusively weekend travel. At most, a conference only plays a single round-robin in football. That means that Greenville and Westminster would each only have to make a trip every other year to Ashland, WI to play Northland. Now, if the UMAC sweetened the deal for Finlandia by offering full membership in all sports (realistically the only way that Finlandia would ditch the closer travel and better competition of MIAA football), then the two SLIAC schools would each make one trip per year to the shores of Lake Superior, alternating between Northland and Finlandia. And one trip per year is hardly a deal-breaker. Plus, given that it's a Minnesota-based conference, the Panthers and Blue Jays gridders are already used to long road trips, anyway.
Finlandia to the UMAC could make sense in a football-only context - with or without Northland/Superior. You may, as Gregory Sager suggests, trade level of competition, but I don't necessarily agree on the closer travel. You'd have a minimum of four UMAC opponents (Crown, UNW, Morris, MLC - all 460 miles or less from Houghton) that are closer than all but one current MIAA opponent (Alma - 445 miles; all others are 525+). Also, if Finlandia only travels to one of the SLIAC schools each year (and vice-versa), it's certainly a workable proposition. WCMO and Greenville would just be trading one 10+ hour trip (CSS) for another (Finlandia). It might then also serve as an entry point for full membership. Who knows?
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 09, 2020, 11:23:37 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on June 09, 2020, 07:28:56 PM
Yeah, but since the SLIAC schools initially joined the UMAC for football. SLIAC schools Blackburn and Principia dropped football. Eureka left for the NACC. MacMurray is closing. Later addition Iowa Wesleyan of moving back to the NAIA. For Greenville and Westminster as the only 2 SLIAC schools left, what once was 2 trips to Minnesota per year and then all their other games against SLIAC teams within a somewhat small geographic footprint. Now they just have each other every other year at home and every other trip being quite a long haul.
But I do see your point about where would Greenville and Westminster go. Really no good options for those two schools.
It was after Blackburn and Principia dropped football that the SLIAC teams joined the UMAC. Remember in 2008 SLIAC sponsored football with Huntingdon and Lagrange as affiliates. It was after that season that Blackburn and Principia dropped football leaving 6 teams and with no chance at the AQ the 4 remaining SLIAC schools then went to the UMAC.
Ah, then my rambling doesn't really make sense! Never mind then, carry on!
MLC president announces retirement.
Quote from: New Ulm Journal
During president Zarling's tenure (2007-2020), the campus saw the construction of the Chapel of the Christ, the Early Childhood Learning Center, a baseball field and a soccer pitch.
https://www.nujournal.com/news/local-news/2020/05/25/mlc-president-zarling-retiring/
Quote from: huskereddy on June 10, 2020, 02:01:20 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on June 09, 2020, 06:46:34 PM
I don't think that that's necessarily true. Remember, this is football we're talking about, a sport with a minimal number of contests per season and exclusively weekend travel. At most, a conference only plays a single round-robin in football. That means that Greenville and Westminster would each only have to make a trip every other year to Ashland, WI to play Northland. Now, if the UMAC sweetened the deal for Finlandia by offering full membership in all sports (realistically the only way that Finlandia would ditch the closer travel and better competition of MIAA football), then the two SLIAC schools would each make one trip per year to the shores of Lake Superior, alternating between Northland and Finlandia. And one trip per year is hardly a deal-breaker. Plus, given that it's a Minnesota-based conference, the Panthers and Blue Jays gridders are already used to long road trips, anyway.
Finlandia to the UMAC could make sense in a football-only context - with or without Northland/Superior. You may, as Gregory Sager suggests, trade level of competition, but I don't necessarily agree on the closer travel. You'd have a minimum of four UMAC opponents (Crown, UNW, Morris, MLC - all 460 miles or less from Houghton) that are closer than all but one current MIAA opponent (Alma - 445 miles; all others are 525+). Also, if Finlandia only travels to one of the SLIAC schools each year (and vice-versa), it's certainly a workable proposition. WCMO and Greenville would just be trading one 10+ hour trip (CSS) for another (Finlandia). It might then also serve as an entry point for full membership. Who knows?
It makes more sense with these travel numbers to invite Finlandia for football only. In my mind I was thinking there was no way Minnesota schools are as close to Finlandia as the MIAA schools, that's why I thought the UMAC would need to sweeten the deal because of increased travel and invite Finlandia for everything. Apparently travel would be largely irrelevant.
Moving to the UMAC would be beneficial for Finlandia from a competition stand point. Being in a stronger conference is only a good thing if you are competitive. Unfortunately Finlandia has not been competitive in the MIAA the past couple of years.
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on June 10, 2020, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: huskereddy on June 10, 2020, 02:01:20 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on June 09, 2020, 06:46:34 PM
I don't think that that's necessarily true. Remember, this is football we're talking about, a sport with a minimal number of contests per season and exclusively weekend travel. At most, a conference only plays a single round-robin in football. That means that Greenville and Westminster would each only have to make a trip every other year to Ashland, WI to play Northland. Now, if the UMAC sweetened the deal for Finlandia by offering full membership in all sports (realistically the only way that Finlandia would ditch the closer travel and better competition of MIAA football), then the two SLIAC schools would each make one trip per year to the shores of Lake Superior, alternating between Northland and Finlandia. And one trip per year is hardly a deal-breaker. Plus, given that it's a Minnesota-based conference, the Panthers and Blue Jays gridders are already used to long road trips, anyway.
Finlandia to the UMAC could make sense in a football-only context - with or without Northland/Superior. You may, as Gregory Sager suggests, trade level of competition, but I don't necessarily agree on the closer travel. You'd have a minimum of four UMAC opponents (Crown, UNW, Morris, MLC - all 460 miles or less from Houghton) that are closer than all but one current MIAA opponent (Alma - 445 miles; all others are 525+). Also, if Finlandia only travels to one of the SLIAC schools each year (and vice-versa), it's certainly a workable proposition. WCMO and Greenville would just be trading one 10+ hour trip (CSS) for another (Finlandia). It might then also serve as an entry point for full membership. Who knows?
It makes more sense with these travel numbers to invite Finlandia for football only. In my mind I was thinking there was no way Minnesota schools are as close to Finlandia as the MIAA schools, that's why I thought the UMAC would need to sweeten the deal because of increased travel and invite Finlandia for everything. Apparently travel would be largely irrelevant.
Moving to the UMAC would be beneficial for Finlandia from a competition stand point. Being in a stronger conference is only a good thing if you are competitive. Unfortunately Finlandia has not been competitive in the MIAA the past couple of years.
Finlandia has not been competitive in football at all, so far.
Bethany Lutheran did a study on adding football at one point, could they be an option?
https://blcvikings.com/news/2017/8/21/general-update-on-football-study-at-bethany.aspx
Quote from: Baldini on June 10, 2020, 03:57:54 PM
Bethany Lutheran did a study on adding football at one point, could they be an option?
https://blcvikings.com/news/2017/8/21/general-update-on-football-study-at-bethany.aspx
Maybe in normal times. But just getting the basics down will be a challenge for the budget planners.
Quote from: Baldini on February 09, 2020, 12:02:58 AM
Martin Luther College has added a high quality commit with Carson Oestreich from Pierce, Nebraska. A member of the state runner-ups who rushed for 230 yards and 5 TD's in the semi final game. Had an offer from NAIA Morningside, but chose MLC instead.
https://twitter.com/CarsonOestreich/status/1225579980920442880
A few more MLC commits.
Cole Broekhuizen (DL) 6'0" 245lbs - Michigan Lutheran Seminary
Cole anchored the Seminary offensive and defensive line and was a finalist for Saginaw-area Defensive player of the year, he will play at Martin Luther College in the 2020 season.
Nick Wieser (LB/DL) 5'8" 245lbs - Luther
Max Nordlie (QB) 5'11" 170lbs - Michigan Lutheran Seminary
Reagan Moore (RB/OLB) 5'11"185lbs - Michigan Lutheran Seminary
Brett Timmerman (ATL) 5'11"170lbs - Michigan Lutheran Seminary
Quote from: Baldini on June 19, 2020, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: Baldini on February 09, 2020, 12:02:58 AM
Martin Luther College has added a high quality commit with Carson Oestreich from Pierce, Nebraska. A member of the state runner-ups who rushed for 230 yards and 5 TD's in the semi final game. Had an offer from NAIA Morningside, but chose MLC instead.
https://twitter.com/CarsonOestreich/status/1225579980920442880
A few more MLC commits.
Cole Broekhuizen (DL) 6'0" 245lbs - Michigan Lutheran Seminary
Cole anchored the Seminary offensive and defensive line and was a finalist for Saginaw-area Defensive player of the year, he will play at Martin Luther College in the 2020 season.
Nick Wieser (LB/DL) 5'8" 245lbs - Luther
Max Nordlie (QB) 5'11" 170lbs - Michigan Lutheran Seminary
Reagan Moore (RB/OLB) 5'11"185lbs - Michigan Lutheran Seminary
Brett Timmerman (ATL) 5'11"170lbs - Michigan Lutheran Seminary
Very much a WELS centric group here. Kinda intrigued for the matchup against my alma mater (WLC) this season.
First ever matchup between MLC and WLC and should be a very good, evenly matched game. The game this year is in Milwaukee and the 2021 game will be in New Ulm. The Warriors hold a 2-0 advantage in men's basketball and the volleyball teams split their 2017 and 2018 matches. It seems like it should be a more natural matchup in most sports for the schools, but the two schools seldom cross paths. Hoping this game actually gets played.
I don't know if this was posted anywhere else, but I found it interesting.
https://footballscoop.com/news/the-highest-earning-division-iii-football-programs-are/
Quote from: Baldini on June 23, 2020, 08:44:06 PM
I don't know if this was posted anywhere else, but I found it interesting.
https://footballscoop.com/news/the-highest-earning-division-iii-football-programs-are/
George Fox recently restarted football after several years.
Occidental had to cut a season short because of lack of players. A special effort was undertaken to fund the program.
I'm sure these figures reflect these activities rather than ongoing gate receipts.
The UMAC has released some information.
https://umacathletics.com/news/2020/7/13/general-covid-update.aspx
'No changes were made at this time to UMAC football schedules allowing up to two non-conference contests. Football will continue to be monitored and consistently reassessed as the season draws closer'.
Can stick a fork in the UMAC football season also.
https://umacathletics.com/news/2020/7/29/general-umac-releases-update-for-fall-2020.aspx
Seems to be some pushback beginning about cancelling seasons, this is from the Northwestern Website.
Despite the UMAC's decision to eliminate conference competition for high-risk sports this fall, the University of Northwestern plans to pursue non-conference competition for volleyball, football and soccer this fall. Schedules are currently being created and will be posted on www.unweagles.com as soon as they are available. All winter sports (m/w basketball and indoor track and field) have not been effected by these changes and are scheduled to occur as usual at this time.
https://unweagles.com/news/2020/7/30/general-umac-announces-fall-schedule-changes-unw-to-pursue-non-conference-competition.aspx
A number of other schools have not taken down their schedules and may well be following a similar path.
The common theme seems to be to kick the can down the road to the spring, but most all of these AD's know that logistically that just will not happen for them. I do believe there will be some games in the UMAC and ARC this fall, just hard to tell how many at this moment.
The sad thing here is that Martin Luther College has a generational player for their program and he may not get to play his SR. season.
https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2020/07/joshuah-kren/
The UMAC has released a spring football schedule.
From the UMAC site,
UMAC football member institutions plan to compete under a modified divisional model with a four-game regular season schedule over a six-week period with a tentative final championship crossover weekend. The "North" division will feature College of St. Scholastica, Crown College, Martin Luther College, University of Minnesota Morris and University of Northwestern with all teams participating in a single-round robin schedule with two home and two away games each. The "South" division includes Greenville University, Iowa Wesleyan University and Westminster College with all three teams participating in a double-round robin schedule with one home and one away game against each divisional member.
The regular season football schedule is slated to begin the weekend of March 26-27 and conclude April30-May 1. The conference tentatively plans to host a final weekend at a neutral site, should institutional policies allow, where the top three seeds from each division would compete against each other while the No. 4 and No.5 seeds from the "North" division would compete. The No. 1 North vs. No. 1 South game would determine the conference champion. If the championship weekend games cannot be played, a champion would be named for each division.
Link to the schedule.
https://umacathletics.com/calendar.aspx?path=football&start=1/1/2021&end=5/31/2021
Finlandia is joining the UMAC for football: https://umacathletics.com/news/2020/9/30/umac-adds-finlandia-as-associate-football-member-for-2021-season.aspx
Quote from: Inkblot on October 02, 2020, 03:35:13 PM
Finlandia is joining the UMAC for football: https://umacathletics.com/news/2020/9/30/umac-adds-finlandia-as-associate-football-member-for-2021-season.aspx
Those will be some mighty long road trips for Greenville and Westminster to Finlandia and Finlandia back the other way.
Quote from: Baldini on October 04, 2020, 07:28:52 AM
Quote from: Inkblot on October 02, 2020, 03:35:13 PM
Finlandia is joining the UMAC for football: https://umacathletics.com/news/2020/9/30/umac-adds-finlandia-as-associate-football-member-for-2021-season.aspx
Those will be some mighty long road trips for Greenville and Westminster to Finlandia and Finlandia back the other way.
While Greenville and Westminster are longer road trips than anything they have now in the MIAA, UNW-St Paul and Crown are shorter than any current road trip with Martin Luther and UM-Morris in line with current MIAA trips.
Greenville - Finlandia is 654 miles.
Westminster - Finlandia is 755 miles.
I wonder if those schools when they play Finlandia might meet somewhere in the middle at a neutral site. May end up cheaper to do so.
With little fanfare the UMAC spring football season is now in full gear. Greenville opened things up on March 20th with a trip to Greencastle, Indiana to face DePauw which resulted in a 41-7 victory for DePauw.
Last weekend saw 2 games with Northwestern traveling to Dubuque, Iowa to face Loras College with Loras winning that one 61-13.
The other game last weekend was the first conference game of the season with Westminster hosting Greenville with Westminster pulling out a very good game 30-22. Greenville with 3:46 to play pulled to within 23-22 on Jalen Dowell 40 yard interception return for a TD, but went for 2 rather than kick the extra point for the tie, the two point pass failed. Westminster would grind out a field long drive and score to seal the win from there.
Yesterday's action saw 3 games. The 0-2 Greenville Panthers had their home opener against Iowa Wesleyan and won another very good back and forth battle. Iowa Wesleyan took the lead in the 4th quarter 25-21, but Greenville would answer with a Paul Garrett 61 yard TD run and lead to the final score of 28-25. Paul Garrett would finish with 222 yards rushing on the day. Iowa Wesleyan was lead by their passing game and QB Gavin Esquivel who was 29 for 58 and 434 yards with 3 TD's. It will be disappointing to see Iowa Wesleyan leaving for the NAIA after this season, Coach Daniels looks like he has that program pointing up and probably could of been a danger for the UMAC title every year moving forward.
Yesterday also saw Martin Luther travel to Ripon and gain a rare UMAC non conference win 34-16. Things started a little shaky for Martin Luther with Ripon going up 10-0, but the Knights would get their powerful run game rolling and fire off 34 unanswered before Ripon answered with a closing score with a 1:41 to play. Martin Luther rushed for 345 yards on the day, lead by Joshuah Kren with 210 yards on 23 carries. Oestreich chipped in with 63 yards on 10 carries and Butler added 9-57. Martin Luther owned a 39:58 to 20:02 time of possession advantage in this game.
The third game was an evening battle with Northwestern hosting Minnesota-Morris which turned out to be a wonderfully even matched game. The Cougars would get on the board first with a Garrett Elison 38 yard pass reception from Marcus Reeb and held a 7-3 advantage after one period, but Northwestern would answer with 3 scores in the 2nd quarter that was highlighted by a 73 yard pass from Ryan Flanigan to KJ Downey for a 24-10 halftime lead. Minnesota-Morris came out in the 3rd quarter battling and put up two TD's in the quarter, but the second PAT was blocked and Northwestern would hold a 24-23 lead heading to the 4th. Defense ruled from there and Northwestern would add a FG in the final period as the only score by either team for a final of 27-23.
These games are very much under the radar, but have been some very fun football to watch.
Four games were scheduled yesterday, 2 conference and 2 non-conference.
The Northwestern trip to Decorah, Iowa to play Luther was cancelled for reasons unknown to me.
In the other non-conference game Greenville traveled to play Lake Forest that resulted in a 27-2 lose. The Panthers got on the board first with a safety and lead after one quarter 2-0, but Lake Forest would score 27 unanswered for the final score. Adding to the disappointment of the lose for Greenville is that they played them fairly even on the day, but four turnovers to none for Lake Forest was just too much to over come. Greenville's defense did their part most of the game, giving up a total of 145 yards of offense on the day. Lake Forest took the lead in the 2nd quarter on a 81 yard punt return and would add short field TD drives in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarters to do enough for the win.
Westminster traveled to Iowa Wesleyan and would get a 20-13 road victory. Westminster was in control of this one for most of the day, but it did get interesting when with 4:16 to play and the Blue Jays leading 20-6. At mid field, on a short pass to the flat the receiver would fumble and IWU's Jaheem Hampton would scoop and score with a 50 yard return. Watching it live I was surprised the receiver was not ruled down because it looked liked the ground caused the fumble, but the play would stand. Westminster would grind out 10 plays and most of the clock to salt the game away and get the victory.
Martin Luther College traveled to Minnesota-Morris and Coach Hoffmann had a few tricks up his sleeve to surprise the visitors to start the game. The Cougars opened the game with a 57 yard TD pass from Marcus Reeb to Mark Chapman on the opening drive to go up 7-0. On the next kickoff the Cougars would get the ball right back on a perfect onside kick and had the Knights on their heels, but on the fourth play of the drive MLC's Nathan Golisch would intercept a pass in the redzone at the 12 yard line. From there the Knights would reel off 44 straight points with their run game in high gear. Austin DeNoyer had 218 yards rushing on 12 carries with TD runs of 60,27,71 on the day, all done in 2 1/2 quarters of play before taking a seat for the day. MLC would end the day with 487 yards rushing on 6o attempts. The young Cougars kept fighting all day and put together a nice final drive for a TD and the final score of 44-14.
Quote from: Baldini on April 11, 2021, 02:58:16 PM
Four games were scheduled yesterday, 2 conference and 2 non-conference.
The Northwestern trip to Decorah, Iowa to play Luther was cancelled for reasons unknown to me.
https://luthernorse.com/news/2021/4/9/general-football-games-with-northwestern-mn-and-university-of-dubuque-canceled.aspx
Thanks Pat, I was thinking that was probably it.
Well the UMAC football schedule went a little off the rails last weekend. Originally there was to be two games Friday the 16th with Crown visiting Minnesota-Morris and Martin Luther visiting Northwestern. Also a Saturday game was scheduled with Greenville headed to Iowa Wesleyan. As it turned out all 3 games were cancelled. With some quick work by Martin Luther they rescheduled their Augsburg game for Sunday the 18th that was originally scheduled for the 24th which became possible when Augsburg's game with St. Thomas was cancelled. So one game was played.
The game was not a very clean game, it included 6 TO's and 12 penalties. Those thing aside it was a very evenly matched game that featured the Augsburg passing game against the MLC running game. Augsburg held a slight total yardage advantage over the Knights 397-373. The two teams traded TD's in the first quarter and after the Augsburg stopped MLC's 4th down attempt inside the 5 yard line late in the 2nd quarter it looked like the score may remain 7-7 to the half. But Augsburg struck quickly with a Braden Tretter 94 yard pass from Cade Sheehan and a few plays later the Knights would fumble and the visitors would add a FG on the last play of the half for a 17-7 halftime advantage. Those final minutes of the first half would prove too much for MLC to overcome, they would have their chances late in the 4th, but another turnover inside of the 2 minute mark was the final nail in the coffin. Augsburg would get the victory 24-21.
Two games were scheduled for this coming Saturday with Northwestern going to Crown and Westminster visiting Greenville. The Northwestern-Crown game has already been cancelled, but as of now the Westminster-Greenville game is still on. Here's hoping they can get that one in and have at least one game in the UMAC this week.
And the Westminster @ Greenville is also cancelled. No games this weekend in the UMAC.
Two games were played this past weekend, I must confess that I did not watch any of them because I was at the Derby so I only have a box score review here.
Iowa Wesleyan traveled to Westminster and came away with what looks like an impressive win 35-14. The Tigers had another nice day throwing the ball with 388 yards passing and 506 yards in total offense. Coach Daniels has got the IWU going in the right direction and I personally am disappointed that this was their last UMAC game as they head to the NAIA next season. Good Luck to the IWU team and staff on their 2021 fall season.
The other game was a late add, Mayville State traveled to Martin Luther and it looks on paper like it was an outstanding game with MLC coming away with the 39-31 win. MLC had their QB Ethan Aguilar back for this one and it appears to help add a little more balance to the attack this weekend. One of the highlights was RB Carson Oestreich with a school record setting 93 yard run in the second quarter. Austin DeNoyer added 112 yards rushing to his MLC career rushing record total and Joshuah Kren added 120 yards receiving with two TD's. DeNoyer and Kren have been an amazing tandem the past few seasons for the Knights, it will be interesting to see where it goes from here. MLC finishes the season 3-1.
Opening day for the UMAC teams is September 4th.
Crown @ Hamline (-27)
Millikin @ Greenville (+38)
Martin Luther @ Concordia (Wis.) (-4)
Northwestern @ Wheaton (-42)
Knox @ Westminster (+4)
Finlandia @ Lawrence (-6)
Minnesota-Morris @ Macalester (-17)
I simulated each game on Massey for the point spreads and as you can see every UMAC team is an underdog, not overly surprising. Westminster at home and Martin Luther on the road would appear to be the UMAC's best chances for victories. New football only member Finlandia has a punchers chance also, I guess. I expect Greenville and Northwestern to have good teams this season, but they get the acid tests right out of the gate. Would not be surprised to see Minnesota-Morris be much improved and give Macalester a tough game. Hopefully Crown can battle to respectability at Hamline. If the UMAC can pull a couple of upsets it should be a good day overall for the conference. It's a new season, play hard, show well. Best of luck on a fun and healthy season for every team.
Good morning,
I'll probably be getting the West fan poll up and running again this year. With that being said, send me a message if you're interested in participating. Most likely I'll need few more fans to fill out the 10 spots we have.
Send me a message if you're interested, we'll be happy to have yeah.
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Wheaton has posted their attendance policy for anyone who may be thinking of making the trek.
https://athletics.wheaton.edu/sports/2021/8/26/2021-22-wheaton-athletics-spectator-policy.aspx
Greenville has stamped themselves as the new team to beat in the UMAC with a very impressive 37-33 win over Millikin. Chase Butterfield threw for 4 TD's including the game winner with 30 seconds to play, RB Paul Garrett added 111 yards rushing. WR Seth Logan had himself a day with 10 catches for 151 yards and all 4 of Butterfield's TD passes were to Logan. Well done Panthers.
Minnesota-Morris is getting much better under Coach Hoffmann, but had a tough 38-32 lose to Macalester in a exciting game. The Cougars rallied from a 2 TD second half deficit to take the lead, only to give it back on a KO return for a TD by Macalester. They let a big non conference win get away, but the Cougars are going to win some games this year and they will battle every week. There is light at the end of the tunnel in Morris this year.
Martin Luther is probably a little frustrated this morning. After taking a 14-0 lead they managed to shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly with TO's after starting QB Ethan Aquilar was knockout of the game with 5 minutes left in the first half. Three INT's and a fumbled handoff exchange in enemy territory in the 2nd half were too many TO's to over come, yet amazingly they still had their chances. In the end it was a 28-21 lose to Concordia-Wisconsin on the road.
Northwestern took a 56-0 beatdown at Wheaton. Northwestern managed 28 yards rushing on 31 attempts, that stat pretty much sums up what kind of day it was for the visitors. I'm not a fan of this kind of scheduling, but that is a debate for another day. We will see if this make them better in the long run.
Crown showed some real positives in their 54-38 lose at Hamline. Crown will be fun to watch play this season on offense the way they throw it around. Jared Gilmore attempted a school record 61 passes against Hamline for 456 yards and 5 TD's, Cole Mistretta was on the receiving end of 14 of those passes that netted him 254 yards and 2 TD's. Crown will score in bunches this season, but so will their opponents. It is a process to build up talent on both side of the ball, Crown is got one side well on their way.
Finlandia fell to Lawrence 42-6 in the other game played. Much like the score appears, Lawrence was well in control throughout this game.
The Knox at Westminster game was cancelled for reasons unknown to me.
The UMAC ended the weekend 1-5, but overall showed fairly well. Huge win for Greenville, Minnesota-Morris and Martin Luther both let winnable games get away and Crown showed well on offense. We really learned nothing about Northwestern and Finlandia is probably what we thought they were. Not great, but still good....for the UMAC.
Week 2 schedule.
Concordia-Chicago @ Finlandia
Wisconsin Lutheran @ Martin Luther
Greenville @ Rockford
Carleton @ Minnesota-Morris
Buena Vista @ Northwestern
Crown and Westminster are both idle this weekend.
Baldini - Great write ups after week one. The league gets two victories in week 2. GU rolled over NCAC preseason #8 Rockford. GU was up 41 - 14 at half and cruised to the win. Martin Luther beats NACC preseason #7 Wisconsin Lutheran by 14.
After sizing up the rest of the league, it looks like an early two horse UMAC race between GU and ML. And they meet in week one of conference play on October 2, at Martin Luther.
Next week GU plays on the road at MIAA preseason #5 Adrian. Adrian has had a tough start against two good teams and will be ready roll on Homecoming Saturday.
ML plays at St. John. Good luck with that. St. John's sits at #7 in the latest D3football poll and beat a really good Aurora team for its first victory.
Quote from: GU1999 on September 13, 2021, 10:41:11 AM
Baldini - Great write ups after week one. The league gets two victories in week 2. GU rolled over NCAC preseason #8 Rockford. GU was up 41 - 14 at half and cruised to the win. Martin Luther beats NACC preseason #7 Wisconsin Lutheran by 14.
After sizing up the rest of the league, it looks like an early two horse UMAC race between GU and ML. And they meet in week one of conference play on October 2, at Martin Luther.
Next week GU plays on the road at MIAA preseason #5 Adrian. Adrian has had a tough start against two good teams and will be ready roll on Homecoming Saturday.
ML plays at St. John. Good luck with that. St. John's sits at #7 in the latest D3football poll and beat a really good Aurora team for its first victory.
Thanks GU1999. Was traveling this week and didn't get a chance to comment on last weeks games, but Greenville again showed why they are the team to beat this year in the UMAC if someone want the title.
MLC did add the second win for the UMAC in non conference play on the weekend and looks like the clear second team in my way to early to be making such comments, comment.
This weeks schedule looks like this.
Carleton @ Crown
Hamline @ Minnesota-Morris
Westminster @ Sewanee
Martin Luther @ St. John's
Greenville @ Adrian
Wisconsin-River Falls @ Northwestern
Greenville and Westminster probably hold the best chances for the conference this weekend. For one of the others to win would be a major D3 upset. Crown, Minnesota-Morris and Northwestern have a chance to be competitive. Don't understand why MLC would schedule that game, hope they are getting a nice payday to travel to St. John's.
Quote from: Baldini on September 16, 2021, 11:26:43 AM
Don't understand why MLC would schedule that game, hope they are getting a nice payday to travel to St. John's.
I'm assuming there is a decent payday for MLC as well as a chance to see where you stack up and play in a premier D3 environment. Also, it's an easy (i.e. cheap) away game.
From SJU's perspective, I'm sure it was scheduled with the hopes that MLC wins the UMAC--it'll bolster SJU's resume in they event they're hunting for a pool C bid.
Quote from: DuffMan on September 17, 2021, 10:10:29 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 16, 2021, 11:26:43 AM
Don't understand why MLC would schedule that game, hope they are getting a nice payday to travel to St. John's.
I'm assuming there is a decent payday for MLC as well as a chance to see where you stack up and play in a premier D3 environment. Also, it's an easy (i.e. cheap) away game.
From SJU's perspective, I'm sure it was scheduled with the hopes that MLC wins the UMAC--it'll bolster SJU's resume in they event they're hunting for a pool C bid.
From the SJU side of it, it makes complete sense to add a potential conference winner who has the very smallest of chances to upset them. From the MLC side the only benefit is a payday, the chance to see where you stack up is coach speak to cover up the schools money grab. MLC is very aware of where they stack up and don't need a complete physical and mental beatdown to find out who they are.
I had read an article a few years ago that MLC was one of the 5 lowest revenue producing athletic departments in all of D3, so taking the money for a game like this one is probably more about survival than anything else.
Westminster saved the day for the UMAC with the only win as they went 1-5 overall.
I admit that I dropped the Westminster - Sewanee game in the 3rd quarter with Westminster up 30-9 to watch another game, but that was a mistake. Sewanee rallied with 20 fourth quarter points and the last few minutes were wild. Sewanee cut the score to 30-29 and went for 2, but fumbled and failed with under 8 minutes to play. Lots of time yet. Sewanee forced a punt on the next drive, but Westminster held also and forced a punt that would start Westminster at their 9 yard line with 2:59 to play. A first down would probably seal a win, but 3 rushes netted 3 yards and a punt attempt was forced with 1:19 to play. The punt was partially blocked and Sewanee took over at the Blue Jays 24. A holding penalty would set Sewanee back 10 yards and with 13 seconds remaining, on 4th down from the 21 yard line Sewanee would try a game winning FG attempt. That FG attempt would sail wide left and Westminster would get their win and start their season 1-0 in exciting fashion 30-29.
Greenville walked into a hornets nest in Adrian, Michigan to face Adrian on their Homecoming Day and could never get over the early hole they were in. Adrian jump to a 14-0 1st quarter lead and 28-14 halftime lead and Greenville was playing up hill all day. Greenville would end up losing this one 41-28, but I still believe they are the team to beat in the UMAC regardless of this outcome.
Minnesota-Morris continues to play hard and make strides as a program. Despite being on the wrong end of a 18-0 halftime score against Hamline, they would battle to put up 28 second half points. They would fall short in the end and drop this one 30-28.
Crown took their lumps against Carleton to the tune of 51-0. Crown started the game by recovering an onside kick and driving to Carleton's 5 yard line, but with 1st and goal from the 5, Crown would make 4 failed attempts to score and turn it over on downs. All down hill after that.
Martin Luther also took a butt whoopin from St. John's with a final score of 55-7. MLC's only points came on a pick 6 by Ben Arndt in the 2nd quarter. The MLC offense was handed some chances in the red zone, but could do nothing with them. MLC had 88 yards rushing from 46 carries, St. John's had 554 yards in total offense to MLC's 161. I listened to this game while watching the Greenville game on Youtube. It was interesting that at the end of the game that the play by play guy for St. John's thought they would take a knee and let the clock run out with under 40 seconds to play or maybe give the RB one more carry, but the announcer seemed to throwup in this mouth a little bit when the Johnnies threw for the endzone for another score. MLC took the money for taking a beatdown so what is the difference between 55-7 or 48-7, but still a short penis kind of move on the part of the St. John's coach.
Northwestern was the final game of the day and the third blowout victim for the UMAC as Wisconsin-River Falls would win by the final score of 71-13. Northwestern travels to Hope to conclude their non conference schedule that included Wheaton, Buena Vista, Wisconsin-River Falls along with Hope. It will be interesting to see if this helps or hurts them come time for conference play. Can being totally beatdown 4 weeks in a row be a positive? We will see.
Quote from: Baldini on September 19, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
...but still a short penis kind of move on the part of the St. John's coach.
You can probably pin that on the 3rd or 4th string QB wanting to throw a TD pass rather than call out a well-respected coach. Do you honestly think that, in that situation, a coach made that call?
Quote from: DuffMan on September 20, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 19, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
...but still a short penis kind of move on the part of the St. John's coach.
You can probably pin that on the 3rd or 4th string QB wanting to throw a TD pass rather than call out a well-respected coach. Do you honestly think that, in that situation, a coach made that call?
I can't say I don't find this defense amusing, considering the historical context. If the 3rd or 4th string QB went rogue and against the coach's wishes, that still falls back on the coaching staff.
Quote from: DuffMan on September 20, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 19, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
...but still a short penis kind of move on the part of the St. John's coach.
You can probably pin that on the 3rd or 4th string QB wanting to throw a TD pass rather than call out a well-respected coach. Do you honestly think that, in that situation, a coach made that call?
That's a ridiculous take to suggest that a 3rd or 4th string QB isn't running the play sent in by the coach. It is 100% on the coach.
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 10:25:38 AM
That's a ridiculous take to suggest that a 3rd or 4th string QB isn't running the play sent in by the coach.
Is it, though?
Quote from: DuffMan on September 20, 2021, 10:37:37 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 10:25:38 AM
That's a ridiculous take to suggest that a 3rd or 4th string QB isn't running the play sent in by the coach.
Is it, though?
Duff knows better than, but historically SJU QB's have been given huge latitude in calling plays in the huddle and also calling audibles. So it's not unreal to think/suggest this was player driven. But if it wasn't, shrug ... it's college football. Work on stopping the 4th string QB from being able to go deep. When young guys get on the field, they want to show their stuff. It's maybe one of the few times that guy gets a game rep all season.
Regardless, the juvenile rip you made, based on nothing more than assumptions, was total garbage.
Quote from: hazzben on September 20, 2021, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 20, 2021, 10:37:37 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 10:25:38 AM
That's a ridiculous take to suggest that a 3rd or 4th string QB isn't running the play sent in by the coach.
Is it, though?
Duff knows better than, but historically SJU QB's have been given huge latitude in calling plays in the huddle and also calling audibles. So it's not unreal to think/suggest this was player driven. But if it wasn't, shrug ... it's college football. Work on stopping the 4th string QB from being able to go deep. When young guys get on the field, they want to show their stuff. It's maybe one of the few times that guy gets a game rep all season.
Regardless, the juvenile rip you made, based on nothing more than assumptions, was total garbage.
Don't doubt the audible stuff and agree about the players on the field are there to make something happen, but that is where the coach steps in. The only thing that is total garbage is the play and the attempt of people defending it. Everything goes through the coach and it is 100% on him.
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?
Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?
Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.
Reading comprehension is a bit lacking there, Baldini. Where did I defend the "classlest act"?
The only "classless act" I called out was your juvenile name-calling.
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?
Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.
I see someone has already mentioned that SJU quarterbacks have traditionally been given latitude to call plays at the LOS. Maybe your rhetoric is a touch over the top for a Week 3 game.
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?
Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.
Reading comprehension is a bit lacking there, Baldini. Where did I defend the "classlest act"?
The only "classless act" I called out was your juvenile name-calling.
In your haste to spin the narrative away from the original point and make it about something else, you may want to check your reading comprehension. If you are going to quote something at the least quote what was written. But who has time for that when defending honor.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2021, 03:05:44 PM
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?
Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.
I see someone has already mentioned that SJU quarterbacks have traditionally been given latitude to call plays at the LOS. Maybe your rhetoric is a touch over the top for a Week 3 game.
That is fair enough, but the coach is still 100% accountable for what happens play wise on the field. I thought I presented the situation as not being that big of deal, but some certainly seem to have an issue with anything negative pointed out about St. John's.
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?
Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.
As a Tommie, I've never had a need to defend accusations of "classless acts" HOWEVER
I still read baldini's moniker as bald-innie, as in a shaved bellybutton. Just me?
In the only other meeting of St. J and ML, the Johnnies mashed the pedal and won the game by 78. Just your run of the mill 84 - 6 playoff win. ML should be grateful that STJ did them a solid this year and only beat them by 48.
Interestingly though, STJ did take the foot off the gas in the last possession of that massive playoff game. Maybe that 3rd string QB knew it was the right thing to do. Is it the boards understanding that the coach didn't call for victory formation? I know that there were like 5400 people there. Someone would have to have seen it. I've attended games where the most of the crowd holds up the two handed V shape when it is time. A second stringer wouldn't ignore victory formation, right?
Or maybe this was just the case of a second stringer QB kid, with full play calling autonomy, just trying to impress the voters after barley holding on against Aurora last week and seeing a drop in the d3football poll from 6 to 7. If so, it worked, becasue STJ and H-S swapped back in this weeks poll.
Either way, thanks Baldini for stirring it a bit.
No problem with potstirring here.
But yeah, are you really saying that a 3rd-string (at best) sophomore, on a roster with eight QBs and getting the first playing time of his college career, is really thinking of swaying Pat's poll voters? That's the thought process?
That's about as clueless as Baldini's remarks are classless.
(I also have barely no problem with barley.)
Quote from: repete on September 21, 2021, 06:49:18 PM
No problem with potstirring here.
But yeah, are you really saying that a 3rd-string (at best) sophomore, on a roster with eight QBs and getting the first playing time of his college career, is really thinking of swaying Pat's poll voters? That's the thought process?
That's about as clueless as Baldini's remarks are classless.
(I also have barely no problem with barley.)
Winner for most obnoxious post of the day. Congratulations!
Quote from: repete on September 21, 2021, 06:49:18 PM
No problem with potstirring here.
But yeah, are you really saying that a 3rd-string (at best) sophomore, on a roster with eight QBs and getting the first playing time of his college career, is really thinking of swaying Pat's poll voters? That's the thought process?
That's about as clueless as Baldini's remarks are classless.
(I also have barely no problem with barley.)
No great surprise that you missed the point entirely which is that there is no way the 2nd string kid has the autonomy to blow off the coach in that situation. If they went for it, it is because the play was called in from the sideline. The sideswipe about the polls is because I understand there was just a little bit of chatter about STJ going down in the poll after beating a ranked Aurora the previous week. A poll which is in its infancy, but, by the way, it worked. STJ jumped back over H-S for #6, yippee!
Fingers crossed that antics like this increase the $s that STJ will need to pay to get games in the future.
Quote from: GU1999 on September 22, 2021, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: repete on September 21, 2021, 06:49:18 PM
No problem with potstirring here.
But yeah, are you really saying that a 3rd-string (at best) sophomore, on a roster with eight QBs and getting the first playing time of his college career, is really thinking of swaying Pat's poll voters? That's the thought process?
That's about as clueless as Baldini's remarks are classless.
(I also have barely no problem with barley.)
No great surprise that you missed the point entirely which is that there is no way the 2nd string kid has the autonomy to blow off the coach in that situation. If they went for it, it is because the play was called in from the sideline. The sideswipe about the polls is because I understand there was just a little bit of chatter about STJ going down in the poll after beating a ranked Aurora the previous week. A poll which is in its infancy, but, by the way, it worked. STJ jumped back over H-S for #6, yippee!
Fingers crossed that antics like this increase the $s that STJ will need to pay to get games in the future.
I kind of find it amusing that someone is telling a St. John's person what the quarterback has the autonomy to do.
John Gagliardi is no longer with us, but still, some things are just a little different at St. John's.
And a fact check for GU: the qb in question was the third to play, one of several young kids competing for the No. 3 spot.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 22, 2021, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: GU1999 on September 22, 2021, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: repete on September 21, 2021, 06:49:18 PM
No problem with potstirring here.
But yeah, are you really saying that a 3rd-string (at best) sophomore, on a roster with eight QBs and getting the first playing time of his college career, is really thinking of swaying Pat's poll voters? That's the thought process?
That's about as clueless as Baldini's remarks are classless.
(I also have barely no problem with barley.)
No great surprise that you missed the point entirely which is that there is no way the 2nd string kid has the autonomy to blow off the coach in that situation. If they went for it, it is because the play was called in from the sideline. The sideswipe about the polls is because I understand there was just a little bit of chatter about STJ going down in the poll after beating a ranked Aurora the previous week. A poll which is in its infancy, but, by the way, it worked. STJ jumped back over H-S for #6, yippee!
Fingers crossed that antics like this increase the $s that STJ will need to pay to get games in the future.
I kind of find it amusing that someone is telling a St. John's person what the quarterback has the autonomy to do.
John Gagliardi is no longer with us, but still, some things are just a little different at St. John's.
Which is evident if you've ever shaken a Johnnie's hand and noticed the 6 fingers
Ha! You just can't quit us, can you Jam! ;D
Quote from: repete on September 22, 2021, 05:08:38 PM
Ha! You just can't quit us, can you Jam! ;D
Too much love in my heart for the MIAC still. I've thought about what I'd do if D1 tickets get too expensive for a single-income father of 4, but the only team I'd have interest in rooting for the in the MIAC is Scholastica now and making trips to to Duluth is not happening.
Quote from: jamtod on September 22, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: repete on September 22, 2021, 05:08:38 PM
Ha! You just can't quit us, can you Jam! ;D
Too much love in my heart for the MIAC still. I've thought about what I'd do if D1 tickets get too expensive for a single-income father of 4, but the only team I'd have interest in rooting for the in the MIAC is Scholastica now and making trips to to Duluth is not happening.
Bethel is right up the road my friend, I'll keep your seat warm ;)
Quote from: hazzben on September 22, 2021, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: jamtod on September 22, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: repete on September 22, 2021, 05:08:38 PM
Ha! You just can't quit us, can you Jam! ;D
Too much love in my heart for the MIAC still. I've thought about what I'd do if D1 tickets get too expensive for a single-income father of 4, but the only team I'd have interest in rooting for the in the MIAC is Scholastica now and making trips to to Duluth is not happening.
Bethel is right up the road my friend, I'll keep your seat warm ;)
Hahahahaha no.
I'll cheer Bethel for a single game here and there, but I could see myself somehow selling out to be a John's fan before I'd ever consider being a real Bethel fan.
UMAC schedule kicks off this weekend. Possibly the game of the year in week one with GU and ML matching up.
ML has won the last three meetings dating back to 2017. GU won the preceeding 7 for an overall edge of 7 - 3 in the 2010s.
Given the recent history I suspect ML comes in as the favorite despite being 1 and 3 on the season. GU can score it averaging 37 over its first 4 games, but has had difficulty stopping anyone as they have allowed 35.5 per game. GU's 2 - 2 record comes against a pretty tough schedule for a UMAC team. Millikin (W), Rockford (W), Adrain (L) and Trinity International (L). The Millikin win looks better each week now that they have knocked off Augie and Carroll. Adrain and Trinity Internatial losses were competitive.
Looking forward to the game Saturday as GU plays its 4th consecutive road game.
Quote from: GU1999 on September 29, 2021, 11:22:40 AM
UMAC schedule kicks off this weekend. Possibly the game of the year in week one with GU and ML matching up.
ML has won the last three meetings dating back to 2017. GU won the preceeding 7 for an overall edge of 7 - 3 in the 2010s.
Given the recent history I suspect ML comes in as the favorite despite being 1 and 3 on the season. GU can score it averaging 37 over its first 4 games, but has had difficulty stopping anyone as they have allowed 35.5 per game. GU's 2 - 2 record comes against a pretty tough schedule for a UMAC team. Millikin (W), Rockford (W), Adrain (L) and Trinity International (L). The Millikin win looks better each week now that they have knocked off Augie and Carroll. Adrain and Trinity Internatial losses were competitive.
Looking forward to the game Saturday as GU plays its 4th consecutive road game.
Most things do seem to point in Greenville's favor for this matchup. The Millikin win just jumps out when comparing the two teams, the other 3 games for GU compare very similarly with MLC's games as a whole. I don't see MLC slowing down the GU offense much and haven't seen a lot to think MLC will match them score for score either. One thing on the MLC side that has been a bit mystifying is the lack of usage of Joshuah Kren this season and could be a real wildcard in this game. Kren was the UMAC player of the year for the 2019 season, yet barely see's the ball anymore. In Saturday's game against Alma he got 4 touches that resulted in a 54 yard run for a TD and 3 catches for 66 yards and 2 more TD's, 4 touches and 3 TD's. Through 4 games he has 9 total touches and averages over 17 yard a touch, I would think it would be wise to put the ball in his hands as often as possible. Maybe he has been bubble wrapped for this game?
I expect Paul Garrett to have another big day rushing against MLC, he ran for 151 on 22 carries in 2019 as a FR. against them and a bigger day could happen on Saturday.
The winner here will have a huge advantage in the race for the UMAC title. Will home field and 4 straight road games for GU be enough to get the Knights to the wire first or will GU prove to be the better team regardless? Should be a fun game to watch.
The other games on the UMAC schedule are Westminster at Minnesota-Morris, Finlandia at Northwestern and Crown at Iowa Wesleyan. Northwestern should have a easy time getting their first win. IWU will probably prove to be too much for Crown. The Westminster and M-M game should be a very interesting, even battle of two teams trying to rise to the level of conference contenders.
This weeks games will tell a lot about the pecking order in the UMAC. Fun weekend.
GU at ML was a grinder. But, GU comes away with the OT win and gives ML its first conference loss since 2017. GU managed only one offensive TD in regulation and it happened on the first play from scrimmage, a 77 TD pass to RB Paul Garret. They added a defensive TD on a scoop and score in the 3rd. MLs ability to stymie the GU attack bodes really well for them winning out in this league.
Next up, GU faces off with Northwestern in the "teams formerly coached by Kirk Talley bowl." I would have to guess that GU will be a double digit favorite in this one.
Quote from: GU1999 on October 04, 2021, 01:58:52 PM
GU at ML was a grinder. But, GU comes away with the OT win and gives ML its first conference loss since 2017. GU managed only one offensive TD in regulation and it happened on the first play from scrimmage, a 77 TD pass to RB Paul Garret. They added a defensive TD on a scoop and score in the 3rd. MLs ability to stymie the GU attack bodes really well for them winning out in this league.
Next up, GU faces off with Northwestern in the "teams formerly coached by Kirk Talley bowl." I would have to guess that GU will be a double digit favorite in this one.
GU1999, it was a hard fought win for Greenville. Congratulations on the win and a now not to difficult road to a title. If you had told me before the game that the MLC defense would shutout the GU offense for the last 59:44 of regulation and lose the game I would of thought you were completely crazy, but that is exactly what happened. It is kind of a shame this game wasn't later in the season because there doesn't seem to be much drama left for title hopes.
The Westminster @ Minnesota-Morris game lived up to what I thought it might be, a battle of two very evenly matched teams. The Cougars got the 38-35 win and look to be in great position to finish at least in the top 3 in the UMAC. They are a young team and with road games at MLC and Greenville yet to come, the schedule doesn't favor them against the top teams, but the future looks bright in Morris and never say never.
Westminster has a bye this week and gets Greenville at home the following week. The Blue Jays always seem to play them tough at home and they might be the team with the best chance remaining to knock off Greenville.
Northwestern just got by Finlandia at home 16-13. I thought Northwestern was going to contend for the title this season, but wonder now if they will get another win this season. Head scratching year for them so far.
Crown traveled to Iowa Wesleyan and took the defeat 69-28, but they continue to put up points at times with their passing game and I believe they will still get a win or two this season.
UMAC Power Rankings after week one of conference play.
1.) Greenville
2.) Martin Luther
3.) Minnesota-Morris
4.) Westminster
5.) Crown
6.) Northwestern
7.) Finlandia
Game breakdown for NW v. GU:
Northwestern @ Greenville (o/u 49.5 and GU -32.5)
Northwestern has struggled mightily this season. Sitting at 1 and 4 with their only win coming last week in a squeaker against Finlandia. NW is in for another long day on the road in Greenville.
Northwestern has been outscored 250 to 60 in their first 5 games. 21 of their 60 points came against a Buena Vista team that conceded 80 points in their game the week before. I just don't see them moving the ball much against GU. Defensively they have given up a league worst 533 yards per game. GU has averaged 430+ ypg which is top 40 nationally after playing the hardest part of their schedule. GU will get back to their ball movement and scoring ways the week. One fun individual stat to keep an eye on as the UMAC season progresses is will Paul Garrett's run to lead the nation in Total Yards. Currently, he sits at #13 with 172 p/g. The leaders are in the 190's a game. With the UMAC being the lowest rated conference in the country by D3Football.com, I suspect he could make a run at it. Also, this would be a huge accomplishment as he has yet to be deployed in kick returns. PREDICTION GU 41 - UNW 8
I hope to get to the other two games later.
UM - Morris @ Finlandia
(o/u 34.5 & Finlandia +19.5)
Morris (2-3) will be too much for the Finlandia no matter where this game is played. Morris is one of only two UMAC teams to have multiple wins this season, although both did come against UMAC opponents, as they scheduled Crown for a non-con game. Morris also played close games with Macalester and Hamline. The Fin's played a tougher non-con schedule, but their games were simply not bery competitive. They did manage to hang with Northwestern last week, but that may have been a game played between the bottom two teams in the league.
Finlandia has a very hard time moving the ball averaging less than 200 ypg as a team, and mustering only 25 total points in their first four games.
Morris is averaging 27 ppg.
Prediction: Morris 28 - Finlandia 6
Quote from: GU1999 on October 08, 2021, 10:37:39 AM
UM - Morris @ Finlandia
(o/u 34.5 & Finlandia +19.5)
Morris (2-3) will be too much for the Finlandia no matter where this game is played. Morris is one of only two UMAC teams to have multiple wins this season, although both did come against UMAC opponents, as they scheduled Crown for a non-con game. Morris also played close games with Macalester and Hamline. The Fin's played a tougher non-con schedule, but their games were simply not bery competitive. They did manage to hang with Northwestern last week, but that may have been a game played between the bottom two teams in the league.
Finlandia has a very hard time moving the ball averaging less than 200 ypg as a team, and mustering only 25 total points in their first four games.
Morris is averaging 27 ppg.
Prediction: Morris 28 - Finlandia 6
I'm actually impressed with the job that Mike DuFrane is doing in his first year coaching Finlandia. The defense has been respectable so far and they are playing hard for their coach. Finlandia has the smallest enrollment in all of NCAA football I believe with around 370 students, yet DuFrane has 53 players on his roster. 15% of the student population is on the football team, these type of situations alway do fascinate me.
53 players in a school of 370. WOW. Truly remarkable. I sure hope they get a win this season. Maybe it will be on the 23rd against Crown.
Quote from: GU1999 on October 08, 2021, 03:26:52 PM
53 players in a school of 370. WOW. Truly remarkable. I sure hope they get a win this season. Maybe it will be on the 23rd against Crown.
Finlandia really needs a successful football program to keep the school open.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2021, 04:05:37 PM
Quote from: GU1999 on October 08, 2021, 03:26:52 PM
53 players in a school of 370. WOW. Truly remarkable. I sure hope they get a win this season. Maybe it will be on the 23rd against Crown.
Finlandia really needs a successful football program to keep the school open.
Any idea what their retention is? I see a lot of players from the southern part of the US, it's gotta be tough to keep those kids coming back to the U.P. enough on it's own, but especially if you are losing by a ton.
That's definitely the problem that other Finlandia coaches have tried to solve and have not really succeeded. The initial class of guys had some behavioral issues that did not help.
I feel like having an actual D-III guy in charge, rather than a D-II guy, should help. I mean, they are already not losing by a ton every time out so that's helpful.
It seems like such a difficult position for Finlandia, if DuFrane has any kind of success the better job offers will be many and they will be back to square one.
Quote from: GU1999 on October 07, 2021, 01:32:27 PM
Game breakdown for NW v. GU:
Northwestern @ Greenville (o/u 49.5 and GU -32.5)
Northwestern has struggled mightily this season. Sitting at 1 and 4 with their only win coming last week in a squeaker against Finlandia. NW is in for another long day on the road in Greenville.
Northwestern has been outscored 250 to 60 in their first 5 games. 21 of their 60 points came against a Buena Vista team that conceded 80 points in their game the week before. I just don't see them moving the ball much against GU. Defensively they have given up a league worst 533 yards per game. GU has averaged 430+ ypg which is top 40 nationally after playing the hardest part of their schedule. GU will get back to their ball movement and scoring ways the week. One fun individual stat to keep an eye on as the UMAC season progresses is will Paul Garrett's run to lead the nation in Total Yards. Currently, he sits at #13 with 172 p/g. The leaders are in the 190's a game. With the UMAC being the lowest rated conference in the country by D3Football.com, I suspect he could make a run at it. Also, this would be a huge accomplishment as he has yet to be deployed in kick returns. PREDICTION GU 41 - UNW 8
I hope to get to the other two games later.
GU outgained UNW by 318 yards. GU forced 3 UNW turnovers. AND just barely managed to win the game. It was a one score game with 5:24 to play.
GU managed to let UNW hang around by having
SIX turnovers and
118 penalty yards. This effort will get them beat against more than one team in the league.
There were a few bright spots.
- The Defensive line was excellent, led by Sophomores #96 Turjan McLaurin and #91 Matthew Binion.
- The Defense combined for 16 Sacks/TFLs.
- Jr. Paul Garrett and Soph. Adrian Hinton combined for 188 yards on the ground.
Causes for concern:
- Ball Security. 6 turnovers is not sustainable.
- Injuries. GU lost its number one TE, Sr. Seth Logan early.
- Multiple offensive linemen were injured in the second half. The OL depth will be tested going into Westminster next week.
A quick note about UNW. Their QB, Nick Drinken, made some unbelievable plays in this game. Most of the game he was under significant pressure. The box score does not adequately reflect the performance he had on Saturday.
According to MLC Twitter, their game with Finlandia this weekend has been postponed due to COVID protocols.
Quote from: jakeMN91 on October 13, 2021, 05:22:51 PM
According to MLC Twitter, their game with Finlandia this weekend has been postponed due to COVID protocols.
Thanks Jake for that update. This leaves the UMAC with only 2 games this weekend.
Greenville at Westminster should be a very good game and a must win for Westminster if they are going to win the title this season. Did that sound odd? Well with a win Westminster will be in the drivers seat to win it all.
Crown at Minnesota-Morris is the second game, M-M defeated Crown 3 weeks ago in a non-conference game 24-18 at Crown. A close game last time and probably another close game this week. Both seem to be young and improving teams.
Hopefully COVID doesn't keep anyone down more than a week and all games are on again next week.
Saw a list on the CCIW page of teams by roster size and made me wonder about the UMAC.
Greenville 98
Westminster 96
Northwestern 72
Martin Luther 63
Minnesota-Morris 60
Crown 54
Finlandia 53
It would be interesting to see a study based on the success on the field and roster size. Having a roster in the 50's or 60's seems like it would be a handicap in many ways, yet MLC has had some success on the UMAC level against teams that regularly have larger rosters. How that plays conference to conference in D3 would be interesting.
The battle of the two largest rosters turned lopsided early. GU rebounded well from the 6 turnover game against Northwestern and controlled from the start. Westminster's "Iron Curtain" defensive front was not up to the task as Paul Garrett rushed for 231 and crossed the 1000 yard mark rushing for the season. GU rolls 42-14 in Fulton, Mo. It was nice to see many good reps for reserve team late in this game.
sorry (not sorry) for the lame Churchill reference
Three games scheduled this week with Greenville on the bye. All 3 games look like they are evenly matched and should be tight games to the end.
Westminster at Northwestern - Northwestern showed some life for the first this season against Greenville in their last game and are coming off a bye with a home game. Westminster is traveling 520 miles after taking a beatdown at home to Greenville this past Saturday. That all points to advantage Northwestern, but not so much that this game is still a toss up. This is the 17th meeting between these two, Northwestern currently holds a 11-5 lead in the series and has won the last 5 contests. It's a battle of two teams I thought would be better than they have shown so far, so who gets the win? A lot points to Northwestern, but I'm still a doubter when it comes to them.
Finlandia at Crown - Someone is going to get their first win here and I do like the way Crown has been improving each game. Finlandia didn't play this past week and their travel is only 401 miles this week, but Crown might be a little to good offensively for Finlandia. This is the first ever meeting between these two teams.
Minnesota-Morris at Martin Luther - This is a battle of the new kids versus the old top dogs. M-M is flying high and believing in themselves, yet MLC seems to have lost some of their swagger from years past. Can the Cougars keep their offense rolling? Can the Knights get some decent QB play? This is the 20th meeting between these two teams, MLC leads the series 15-4 all time and has won the last 5 contests with a 8-1 record in games played in New Ulm. This should be another close game for the UMAC this week, can M-M break their losing streak to the Knights?
Really like this schedule of games, hope they live up to the potential.
While I am really looking forward to knowing the outcome of the UMM v. ML game, I think the game to watch this weekend will be Westminster @ Northwestern. I was really impressed with the UNW QB Drinken. He was under heavy pressure all game and kept making drive saving play after drive saving play. He did throw 3 interceptions, but that is not the real story. I suspect that he and his line will be ready for the travelling Bluejays.
GU Freshman Dylan Carns, Punter
2021 Year-to-date:
- 4x UMAC Special Teams Player of the Week
- 18 punts for a 43.3 average (would be 2nd in NCAA d3 although Dylan does not appear in the d3 stats)
- 7 punts inside the 20
- 4 fair catches v. 1 touchback
- Season Long of 66 yards
Carns has been a difference maker in special teams for GU.
Query: Is special teams a place where a UMAC kid can get end of season national awards attention from d3football.com given the fact that the performances are less tied to the caliber of the opposition? It seems to be the case because I am aware of Nick Swore from UNW who was a d3football 2nd teamer in 2017 as a ST.
This conversation is certainly premature, but it fun to think about.
Quote from: GU1999 on October 20, 2021, 11:07:12 AM
GU Freshman Dylan Carns, Punter
2021 Year-to-date:
- 4x UMAC Special Teams Player of the Week
- 18 punts for a 43.3 average (would be 2nd in NCAA d3 although Dylan does not appear in the d3 stats)
- 7 punts inside the 20
- 4 fair catches v. 1 touchback
- Season Long of 66 yards
Carns has been a difference maker in special teams for GU.
Query: Is special teams a place where a UMAC kid can get end of season national awards attention from d3football.com given the fact that the performances are less tied to the caliber of the opposition?
You are very wise to ask that question. The answer is yes -- I definitely take that into account in our discussions of these awards.
Guessing that he doesn't appear in the stats because he hasn't punted often enough to qualify. And we definitely look at all of these stats -- our thoughts are to try to combine long punting average with the highest possible ratio of inside the 20 compared to touchbacks.
Very cool Pat. I looked and his 18 overall punts is on the lower end of those listed in the stats but there were some others who had less. Thank you for your response. I wonder if it is a reporting glitch.
Quote from: GU1999 on October 20, 2021, 11:55:27 AM
Very cool Pat. I looked and his 18 overall punts is on the lower end of those listed in the stats but there were some others who had less. Thank you for your response. I wonder if it is a reporting glitch.
The standard would be punts per game so if those others have played fewer games, that would account for that.
Heard this morning that MLC is trying to schedule a game for next weekend to make up for the lost game with Finlandia, but I cannot find a team that would work. Redlands is off on the 30th and is only at 9 games scheduled, but can't imagine that is in the budget. My first thoughts were just play Finlandia after the last game, but that probably pushes them over their day limits.
Quote from: Baldini on October 22, 2021, 11:09:46 AM
Heard this morning that MLC is trying to schedule a game for next weekend to make up for the lost game with Finlandia, but I cannot find a team that would work. Redlands is off on the 30th and is only at 9 games scheduled, but can't imagine that is in the budget. My first thoughts were just play Finlandia after the last game, but that probably pushes them over their day limits.
If I'm not mistaken, SCIAC conference rules allow their teams to play only 9 games so they would already be at their limit.
The score of the Minnesota-Morris and Martin Luther game is reversed on D3 Football, MLC won 39-0.
I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
Quote from: Baldini on October 23, 2021, 08:28:03 PM
The score of the Minnesota-Morris and Martin Luther game is reversed on D3 Football, MLC won 39-0.
Must be a faster way to let us know.
Quote from: repete on October 24, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
Do you get a daily karma ding as well?? I wondered if it was related to this board. Seemed to coincide with posting here.
Quote from: hazzben on October 24, 2021, 06:11:06 PM
Quote from: repete on October 24, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
Do you get a daily karma ding as well?? I wondered if it was related to this board. Seemed to coincide with posting here.
I suspect it is my fault. I fear I brought down hatred on the whole MIAC board with my loveable style and charming good looks. I thought that it was perhaps just me with a hyper dedicated two or three people who take time to ping me every day, seven days a week. But it appears the whole MIAC board is feeling the karma wrath.
But at least they aren't hypocrites. 'Cause that's the worst part.
(I know that didn't make any sense but I love the reference. Good old Norm. He'll be missed.)
Quote from: repete on October 24, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
What was their to be stunned about?
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 24, 2021, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: Baldini on October 23, 2021, 08:28:03 PM
The score of the Minnesota-Morris and Martin Luther game is reversed on D3 Football, MLC won 39-0.
Must be a faster way to let us know.
Should I of sent a PM? I did do that a few years ago with some BB scores and if I remember correctly a person told me that it was up to the schools to input that info. Just put it here for the few UMAC people that may have missed it.
Quote from: hazzben on October 24, 2021, 06:11:06 PM
Quote from: repete on October 24, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
Do you get a daily karma ding as well?? I wondered if it was related to this board. Seemed to coincide with posting here.
Paranoia will destroy ya!
Quote from: Baldini on October 24, 2021, 07:10:27 PM
Quote from: hazzben on October 24, 2021, 06:11:06 PM
Quote from: repete on October 24, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
Do you get a daily karma ding as well?? I wondered if it was related to this board. Seemed to coincide with posting here.
Paranoia will destroy ya!
I just assume that most of the smiting in this part of the country comes from desertcat1, whose son is the head coach at Linfield. But I have not had time to investigate lately.
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I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
Do you get a daily karma ding as well?? I wondered if it was related to this board. Seemed to coincide with posting here.
Paranoia will destroy ya!
I just assume that most of the smiting in this part of the country comes from desertcat1, whose son is the head coach at Linfield. But I have not had time to investigate lately.
dc1 is an interesting dude. He votes St. John's 5th in the West Region poll because someone (?) at sometime(?) didn't vote for "Sam"(?) for something (?).
I met him a while back at a playoff game at St. Thomas Seemed like a nice enough guy. He didn't care much for our late November weather.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 24, 2021, 11:46:54 PM
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I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
Do you get a daily karma ding as well?? I wondered if it was related to this board. Seemed to coincide with posting here.
Paranoia will destroy ya!
I just assume that most of the smiting in this part of the country comes from desertcat1, whose son is the head coach at Linfield. But I have not had time to investigate lately.
Sometimes it's necessary to balance out the decades long Johnnie Smokefest and +k parade. Bringing order to the universe. Although if hazzben is also getting dinged, I take no responsibility for that (aside from his occasional bad take)
Heh.
No, your honor, I didn't shoot THAT guy...
In my defense, I was drinking a fair amount of Templeton Rye during that period of my life 😉
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I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
What was their to be stunned about?
After seeing the scores of the previous games between these teams, a 39-zip UMM result would be stunning methinks.
On a side note, I've seen a lot of UMM over the years. Great school, but a lot more downs than ups for the football program. Solid D3 program in mid-'70s. I saw them in '76 when they tied SJU -- giving the Johnnies their only blemish in their first NCAA title season. (With the small playoff field back then, a loss would have likely cost SJU a playoff spot). I saw them play in Duluth when they tried to keep up with UMD and others in the NSIC. If I recall correctly, in the mid-80s, their coach was a former SJU assistant who later went to the NFL.
Quote from: repete on October 25, 2021, 09:35:28 AM
Quote from: Baldini on October 24, 2021, 07:04:11 PM
Quote from: repete on October 24, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
What was their to be stunned about?
After seeing the scores of the previous games between these teams, a 39-zip UMM result would be stunning methinks.
On a side note, I've seen a lot of UMM over the years. Great school, but a lot more downs than ups for the football program. Solid D3 program in mid-'70s. I saw them in '76 when they tied SJU -- giving the Johnnies their only blemish in their first NCAA title season. (With the small playoff field back then, a loss would have likely cost SJU a playoff spot). I saw them play in Duluth when they tried to keep up with UMD and others in the NSIC. If I recall correctly, in the mid-80s, their coach was a former SJU assistant who later went to the NFL.
For whatever reason MLC has had M-M's number. They beat them in the spring in Morris 44-14, the season before MLC beat them 49-0 in New Ulm. Overall MLC has won 16 of 20 meetings. I like what Coach Hoffmann is doing in Morris and he has some young UMAC type talent there, but it has been baby steps to make their way to being competitive. I do think they will make a run at a UMAC title in the next year or two. When it comes to MLC's offense it seems to still be a difficult challenge for M-M to stop them.
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I saw that was stunned.
(Also posting here to make it easier to get my daily dose of UMAC -K.)
Do you get a daily karma ding as well?? I wondered if it was related to this board. Seemed to coincide with posting here.
I suspect it is my fault. I fear I brought down hatred on the whole MIAC board with my loveable style and charming good looks. I thought that it was perhaps just me with a hyper dedicated two or three people who take time to ping me every day, seven days a week. But it appears the whole MIAC board is feeling the karma wrath.
But at least they aren't hypocrites. 'Cause that's the worst part.
(I know that didn't make any sense but I love the reference. Good old Norm. He'll be missed.)
I jotted down your negative number last night when you posted this and it was -2265, now 15 hours later you are at -2269. I should get a plus one just for being able to smite you 4 times in one day or maybe I'm not responsible for your negatives and you are turning off people everywhere. It is nice to know I live rent free in your head though.
If the thought gives you pleasure then you're welcome.
Quote from: hazzben on October 25, 2021, 09:27:01 AM
In my defense, I was drinking a fair amount of Templeton Rye during that period of my life 😉
In that case, I'd blame your supplier!
UMAC Week 9:
Finlandia @ Westminster (Finlandia -1) (o/u 36.5)
It is upset week. Finlandia has struggled moving the ball all season. That changes in Fulton. Fiinlandia's rushing offense will move the ball well against the Westminster front and make just enough stops. Finlandia holds on to win by a point.
Crown at GU (Greenville - 24) (o/u 47.5)
Expect GU to come ready to play in front of the largest crowd of the year. Homecoming 2021 at GU will be special for the top of the league football team. GU is coming off of a bye week and will be rested and ready to play. GU has the top league mark in offense and defense, while Crown sites at #4 and #6 respectively.
I expect to see big performances from Paul Garrett as he continues to put up gaudy rushing and all-purpose yard #s. GU will have a big edge in special teams with one of the top punters in the country and a kicker who has upped his kickoff average to 55.3 with 4 TBs.
On defense expect to see another dominating performance from the DL. Javiera Bovell (sr.) and Turjon McLaurin (so.) have been monsters this year. Bovell, in 7 games, has 6.5 TFL and 3 Sacks while McLaurin has 5.5 TFL and 3 sacks. Isaasc Green, a freshman DB from Greenville HS has been an absolute menace. Through 7 games he has 25 tackles, 3.5 TFL, 3 interceptions, 7 PBUs and 3 forced fumbles.
Northwestern at UMM: (NW - 3) (o/u 44.5)
Northwestern will pull of a close one. UNW comes in having won two of their last three. They played GU well on the road. This is a team that is ascending. UNW has settled on QB Nick Drinkin who has turned the season around for UNWW. I do not know what to make of UMM. I thought they were trending in the right direction until the debacle last week in New Ulm. I suspect that they will come out ready to play, but weakness were exposed in the thrashing by ML. They lost by 39 and didn't have a turnover. They managed only 11 first downs and s182 years of total offense while allowing 463 yards to ML.
Agee with you GU1999 on the Greenville game. Homecoming, Greenville off the bye and Crown traveling 620 miles on a bus to play will not end well for Crown.
I'm leaning the other way on both the other games though. Westminster does seem to have some real issues stopping anyone, but Finlandia's offense might be just what the Doctor ordered. What might have been the biggest factor in Westminster's lose to Northwestern was the ST's and I don't believe Finlandia can take advantage in that area. Plus Finlandia has a 721 mile bus ride just to get there.
Minnesota-Morris hasn't beaten Northwestern in their last 10 tries and have only beaten them one time in Morris in their history (2003), but I believe Saturday will be the second time. Northwestern does seem to be improving a little each week, but is it enough? Simulating this game makes it about a dead even tossup, the median scores end up 30 to 30. The best part of a M-M win would be that it would set up a winner take all title game with Greenville on the last weekend and who wouldn't love the UMAC title going down to the last week.
Quote from: GU1999 on October 28, 2021, 01:05:44 PM
UMAC Week 9:
Finlandia @ Westminster (Finlandia -1) (o/u 36.5)
It is upset week. Finlandia has struggled moving the ball all season. That changes in Fulton. Fiinlandia's rushing offense will move the ball well against the Westminster front and make just enough stops. Finlandia holds on to win by a point.
Crown at GU (Greenville - 24) (o/u 47.5)
Expect GU to come ready to play in front of the largest crowd of the year. Homecoming 2021 at GU will be special for the top of the league football team. GU is coming off of a bye week and will be rested and ready to play. GU has the top league mark in offense and defense, while Crown sites at #4 and #6 respectively.
I expect to see big performances from Paul Garrett as he continues to put up gaudy rushing and all-purpose yard #s. GU will have a big edge in special teams with one of the top punters in the country and a kicker who has upped his kickoff average to 55.3 with 4 TBs.
On defense expect to see another dominating performance from the DL. Javiera Bovell (sr.) and Turjon McLaurin (so.) have been monsters this year. Bovell, in 7 games, has 6.5 TFL and 3 Sacks while McLaurin has 5.5 TFL and 3 sacks. Isaasc Green, a freshman DB from Greenville HS has been an absolute menace. Through 7 games he has 25 tackles, 3.5 TFL, 3 interceptions, 7 PBUs and 3 forced fumbles.
Northwestern at UMM: (NW - 3) (o/u 44.5)
Northwestern will pull of a close one. UNW comes in having won two of their last three. They played GU well on the road. This is a team that is ascending. UNW has settled on QB Nick Drinkin who has turned the season around for UNWW. I do not know what to make of UMM. I thought they were trending in the right direction until the debacle last week in New Ulm. I suspect that they will come out ready to play, but weakness were exposed in the thrashing by ML. They lost by 39 and didn't have a turnover. They managed only 11 first downs and s182 years of total offense while allowing 463 yards to ML.
Westminster wins outright and they go way over the total. Westmin 42 Finlandia 32
GU barley covers, but this one also goes way over. GU 55 Crown 30
UMM wins outright and this one also goes over the number. UMM 28 Crown 21.
Individually, Paul Garrett (JR - RB) continues to climb the Rushing, All-Purpose Yards, Rushing TDs and total scoring lists for d3 football. He is currently sitting at #4 in rushing (1247 yards in 8 games), #2 in All-Purpose Yards (192.5/g), #T8 in Rushing TDs (15) and #t8 in total TD's (16).
Quote from: GU1999 on November 01, 2021, 10:39:27 AM
Individually, Paul Garrett (JR - RB) continues to climb the Rushing, All-Purpose Yards, Rushing TDs and total scoring lists for d3 football. He is currently sitting at #4 in rushing (1247 yards in 8 games), #2 in All-Purpose Yards (192.5/g), #T8 in Rushing TDs (15) and #t8 in total TD's (16).
Probably goes without saying, but even with two games to play he is a lock as UMAC player of the year.
What a great honor for the UMAC this week! Two members on the d3football.com Team of the Week.
RB Paul Garrett, Jr., Greenville
Garrett rushed for more than 100 yards for the eight consecutive week and for more than 200 yards for the second consecutive week. In three quarters and on only 16 carries, Paul Garrett rushed for 239 yards and had 263 all purpose yards, including four touchdowns, in a 55-30 win against Crown.
WR Byron Owens, Fr., Finlandia
The first player ever named to the D3football.com Team of the Week from Finlandia, Owens scored three long touchdowns for the Lions in a 42-32 loss to Westminster (Mo.) Owens caught seven passes for 251 yards and two scores, one from 82 yards out and one from 94, and added a 92-yard kickoff return for a touchdown to boot. All three touchdowns came in the fourth quarter as the Lions attempted to rally from a 28-6 deficit.
https://www.d3football.com/awards/tow/2021/week9
Three games on the UMAC schedule this weekend and it starts with first place Greenville making a 1306 mile round trip to face last place Finlandia in the UP. Guessing that the 20+ hours on a bus will be more challenging for Greenville than the Lions probably will be. Coach DuFrane does seem to have the young Lions team making progress week to week, but Greenville is not going to be their first win for their coach in all likelihood. Greenville has the #1 scoring offense in the UMAC at 37 points per game and Finlandia is last at 13 points per game. Expecting Garrett to have another big day and the Panthers to cruise in this one. This is the first ever meeting between these two teams.
Martin Luther travels the 1018 mile round trip to Westminster to take on the Blue Jays in the other afternoon game. I expect this to be a high scoring shootout type of game, Westminster can put points up in bunches at times and also give them up in bunches at times. Westminster leads the all time series 9-8, but with a 3-3 record in games played in Fulton. In MLC's 3 wins at Westminster, they have all been close games with scores of 6-0 in 2005, 30-27 in 2013 and 24-14 in 2019. On the loss side they have all been blowouts for the Blue Jays wins of 54-0 in 2011, 61-7 in 2015 and 54-6 in 2017. Don't think it is a blowout, so I'll take MLC in a tight one.
On the other end of the travel extreme in the UMAC, Crown will make the 36 mile trip to Northwestern for an evening game to finish the UMAC games for the day. This very well could be the best game of the day and the winner will move into the 4 spot in the standing. Both teams keep battling and improving week to week and in comparing common opponents they seem to play everyone fairly even. They both beat Finlandia, one by 3 and the other by 5. They both lost at Minnesota-Morris by 7, both got handled by Greenville. Northwestern leads this all time series 26-2 and has never lost a home game to the Storm. Simulating this game shows the Eagles as 69% likely winner and a median score at 36-28, with a good Saturday night crowd at Reynolds Field it probably is going to give Northwestern the win. I still give Crown a punchers chance though to get their first ever road win against Northwestern. Should be a fun one to watch.
Great write up. I agree on all three fronts, although I am pulling for Crown and Westminster. Would be nice to see all teams get a second win in the league.
Well the final regular season week is here and it comes down to a winner take all for the D3 playoff spot between Greenville and Minnesota-Morris. The Panthers will be a heavy favorite in this spot and they look like the dominate team on both sides of the ball, but stranger things have happened in the game of football. Greenville has the home field and M-M has traveled 760 miles on a bus to get there, add in that Greenville has the #1 offense and #1 defense by yardage in the UMAC and you start to understand the steep hill the Cougars have in front of them. Minnesota-Morris has found a way to hang around and win close games this season, the question is can they hang around in Greenville? Will be interesting to see.
Westminster travels to Crown in what could be the most competitive game on the UMAC schedule this weekend. Both teams have shown they can put up points, yet neither has shown much ability to stop teams from putting up points. Should be a fun, fast paced game to watch. The only downer here is that the Crown video feet has been brutal to watch this season, hopefully this gets better in the future.
Northwestern travels to Martin Luther in the third conference game of the day and MLC should be very motivated with an outside chance at a co-championship on the line. If Minnesota-Morris upsets Greenville and MLC wins there would be a three way tie at the top. MLC cannot get the playoff spot, but a co-championship none the less. Northwestern has been on the improve lately with the offense showing some life and their ST's are the best in the UMAC this season, but can they stop the MLC rushing attack? Northwestern is last in the conference in rush defense and the Knights live and die with their power run game. Probably the key to the game right there.
The final game has Finlandia traveling to Olivet for a very difficult non conference game. It doesn't look good for the Lions to get a win this season, but they have put up some good battles in conference play this season and if they can retain some of the young players there they have something to build off of. Building a program is usually baby steps and Finlandia looks like they have the right coach in place to get the job done. Next season should interesting to watch how it plays out.
Edit: In the case of a 3-way tie for the title, it would go all the way to the 5th tie breaker to determine who would get the playoff bid and that is a random draw by the commissioner.
Crazy things can happen indeed. I think that the difference maker in this game is the GU defense, especially the D-Line. Given UMM's propensity to pass, I will be watching to see if UMM can block up Turjon McLaurin and Javiera Bovell. When GU played ML, the best conference team faced to date, the D produced 10 TFL, 2 sacs and 3 FF. If they get anywhere close to this type of effort the game will not be close.
Quote from: GU1999 on November 11, 2021, 11:49:33 AM
Crazy things can happen indeed. I think that the difference maker in this game is the GU defense, especially the D-Line. Given UMM's propensity to pass, I will be watching to see if UMM can block up Turjon McLaurin and Javiera Bovell. When GU played ML, the best conference team faced to date, the D produced 10 TFL, 2 sacs and 3 FF. If they get anywhere close to this type of effort the game will not be close.
I agree in that the game will probably not be close and is more of a formality in crowning Greenville. As I had stated after Greenville's week 1 OT win against MLC, it felt like the title game was played that day and in the end I think it will be true. Yet nothing is final until it is final.
Fully agree. This is an unhatched chicken counting free zone.
The postponed game from Nov. 6th between Crown and Northwestern is going to be played on Wednesday the 17th.
Well done to my Panthers. Go get it this weekend at UWW.
Also, congratulations to RB Paul Garrett (Jr.) on his second d3football.com national team of the week selection.
Fingers crossed he gets some love for end of season All-America awards despite being in a lesser league.
He finished the year for all of d3 Football:
2nd in rushing yards (1614)
1st in rushing tds (21)
1st in all-purpose yards (1968)
T-1st in total TDs (23)
7th in yards per carry (7.3)
In half way related news. Raiders report that UMAC alum MLB Nick Morrow may be getting closer to a return from his pre-season injury. Morrow, in his 5th year with the Raiders, was set to be the starting MLB and wear the dot after signing a 1 year 5MM "prove it" contract. Of note, Nick never cracked any of the four deep d3football.com All-America teams so I suspect that Garrett has virtually no shot, but I am still hopeful.
Northwestern defeated Crown tonight 59-20 on their Senior Night that they were finally able to play. Senior Damon Clapper had a big night for Northwestern with 9 catches for 146 yards and 3 TD's.
Final UMAC standings.
Greenville 6-0
Martin Luther 5-1
Minnesota-Morris 4-2
Northwestern 3-3
Westminster 2-4
Crown 1-5
Finlandia 0-6
https://umacathletics.com/news/2021/11/17/2021-football-awards.aspx
All-Region 6 honors for Garrett and McLaurin.
Garrett (Jr.) 1st team RB
McLaurin (So.) 2nd team DT
Great accomplishment for these two Panthers and a sign of respect for the UMAC. I am hopeful that Garrett could even appear as an AA when announced Stagg weekend.
Also, in regards to the UMAC All-Conference awards.
GU had 10 first teamers honors for 9 different players (only two of which were seniors). The Offensive and Defensive POYs are return eligible.
There are two underclassmen on the 2nd team as well.
The future looks bright in Greenville.
Quote from: GU1999 on December 09, 2021, 03:26:01 PM
Also, in regards to the UMAC All-Conference awards.
GU had 10 first teamers honors for 9 different players (only two of which were seniors). The Offensive and Defensive POYs are return eligible.
There are two underclassmen on the 2nd team as well.
The future looks bright in Greenville.
bram
You are correct, Greenville will be an early heavy favorite to repeat in the UMAC.
Quote from: GU1999 on December 09, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
All-Region 6 honors for Garrett and McLaurin.
Garrett (Jr.) 1st team RB
McLaurin (So.) 2nd team DT
Great accomplishment for these two Panthers and a sign of respect for the UMAC. I am hopeful that Garrett could even appear as an AA when announced Stagg weekend.
There was a 3rd UMAC player on the All-Region team. OL Andrew Owczarzak was named 3rd team, was a starter for 44 games in his career and was a 3 time all UMAC selection at RT for Martin Luther College.
Very true. I just had my black and orange colored glasses on again.
From the ML press release. What a dude.
"Owczarzak finished his career in 2021 as a five-year starter and three-time All-UMAC performer. Owczarzak was named First Team All-UMAC in 2019 and 2021, and Second Team All-UMAC in 2018. No conference awards were given during the 2020-21 abbreviated spring season."
Owczarzak is the only dude to make the AFCA All-American list. He comes in on the 2nd team. Great honor for him.
https://www.afca.com/centrals-blaine-hawkins-and-monmouths-korbyn-personett-headline-the-2021-afca-division-iii-coaches-all-america-teams/
Paul Garrett makes 4th team All-America for d3football.com. This is a great honor for the Jr. RB who put up insane numbers during the regular season and had a 116 apy and a TD in the round of 32 playoff v. UW-W.
This is GU's first d3football All-American since 2009 and 5th d3football.com All-American since the poll began in 1999.
Great news from Greenville.
Seth Logan (Sr.) who had his season was cut short due to injury had surgery yesterday. He was told he has an approximately 3 month recovery time and he announced that he is planning to play again at GU in the Fall. Seth was a d3football team of the week member in week one of last year after he collected 10 receptions for 151 yards, including touchdown catches of 29, 34, 6, and 19 yards against a decent Millikin team that had top 25 votes in the preseason.
This is a really nice weapon to have back. Seth was injured in the first conference game of last season.
The College Football Network put out a list of top players by position in D3 and on the list of top 20 RB's were 2 UMAC players. Paul Garrett - Greenville and Carson Oestreich - Martin Luther both made the list.
Will either be the next UMAC player to make the league?
... speaking of making the league, Nick Morrow signs back in UMAC country with the Chicago Bears. Based on the contract it looks like he is going to be slotted in as a starting LB. He only is signing for one season. and the deal is reportedly for up to 5mm if all incentives are hit. This is a prove it contract again after he sat out the whole season while playing on a 1 year fully guaranteed 4.5mm deal. He suffered a broken bone in his foot during a joint practice in the pre-season. He was on the Raiders roster, just not active, all 2021 season. This will be his 6th year in the NFL. If he hits the 5mm mark he will top 15mm for his career earnings.
The Bears LB corps is now super athletic and super fast. Morrow and Smith are both 4.5 guys who are sudden when changing direction.
2020 highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSp0PNf4dAE
Love the play at 1:18
This came as a bit of a surprise, but Paul Huebner is the new HC at Martin Luther College. Mark Stein did a very good job with that program and leaves some big shoes to be filled.
https://mlcknights.com/news/2022/4/26/paul-huebner-is-new-mlc-head-football-coach.aspx
Paul Garrett making a fun list. Didn't fully count but maybe 20ish d3 guys on the list of "draft diamonds"
https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2022/06/top-small-school/
It looks like Nicholas Morrow will be the starting Mike and wear the green dot for the Chicago Bears. Pretty wild to go from OL/DL in high school, to hybrid safety at GU to signal caller for the Chicago Bears. While the Bears are of little consequence in the NFL these days, it is pretty wild to fill the same position as some of the greats to ever do it. Morrow will wear #53. Former Bears Mike linebackers 50, 51 and 54 are all Pro Football HOF. :)
The Greenville University roster is available and it looks like very good news for the defending champs.
Total number of players currently listed - 104 (updated 8/26 now 109)
Returning Players - 57
OPOY and DPOY - Garrett (pre-season 3rd team AA) and McLaurin both returning
UMAC 1st team all-conf offense - 3 of 4 returning
UMAC 1st team all-conf defense - 4 of 5 returning
O starters returning - 9/11
D starters returning - 7/11
One big loss appears to be last years Jr. starting QB Chase Butterfield who was 1st team all-conf. It will be interesting to see if one of the two returning QBs (Jr. Payton Bates or So. Joseph Diasparra) or the incoming Fr. Nick Sanford II gets the nod. http://www.hudl.com/v/2Gbvt4 - a lot to like about this video, but the throw at 2:50 was ripped. The throw at 6:00 shows great touch with pressure.
Minnesota Morris (UMAC 3rd last year) has also posted their roster:
Total number of players currently listed - 71
Non-Freshman - 38 (some of these will also be transfers and new to the program, but UMM has already assigned numbers to newcomers and I did not do a deep dive on who was a transfer and who was a returner)
UMAC 1st team all-conf offense - 1 of 2 returning
UMAC 1st team all-conf defense - 1 of 2 returning
O starters returning - 8/11 (full OL & UMAC 2nd teamers at QB and RB are all returning)
D starters returning - 7/11
UNW:
Total number of players currently listed on roster - 79
Total number of returning players - 36
UMAC 1st team all-conf offense - 2 of 2 returning
UMAC 1st team all-conf defense - 0 of 0 returning
I see Crown posted their roster and only 30 players are listed. Hard to make a go of it with 30 players. Sorry to see that a number of their better players from last season are not listed, retention continues to be a problem for Crown's football program.
I have not yet met Anthony Franz, but had conversations with John Auer on a regular basis when we were doing Kickoff and it was always a struggle for him to get numbers. He often lost kids at the last minute who couldn't afford to return.
I wonder if we are just seeing an anomaly in the roster posted on line. In late July they were public in their expectation that they had an incoming class of 40 incoming freshman.
https://athletics.crown.edu/news/2022/7/28/football-ready-to-welcome-in-one-of-the-largest-recruiting-classes-in-program-history.aspx
Quote from: GU1999 on August 19, 2022, 12:48:37 PM
I wonder if we are just seeing an anomaly in the roster posted on line. In late July they were public in their expectation that they had an incoming class of 40 incoming freshman.
https://athletics.crown.edu/news/2022/7/28/football-ready-to-welcome-in-one-of-the-largest-recruiting-classes-in-program-history.aspx
Looks like that might have been the case, they're up to 50 players now.
Hey all, I'm probably gonna start up another fan poll again this year. As always, shoot me a message if you're in interested in participating. In years past we've always focused on "West" teams. However, with new regional realignment I think we'll just focus on Region 6 teams for the fan poll. Let me know if you want in.
Much appreciated!
Martin Luther (2021 UMAC 5-1)
2022 Roster (players currently listed) -50 (2021 - 63)
Freshmen on roster - 17
Returning 2021 UMAC 1st Team Offense - 1 of 3
Returning 2021 UMAC 1st Team Defense - 1 of 6
https://umacathletics.com/news/2022/8/29/football.aspx
Quote from: GU1999 on August 31, 2022, 12:15:00 PM
https://umacathletics.com/news/2022/8/29/football.aspx
Greenville is and should be the overwhelming favorite to win the title. The only question mark for them is at QB and with all the returning players on offense it may not even matter who takes snaps for them. Don't think anyone in the UMAC can hang with them this season.
Northwestern is the 2nd team in the conference this year for me, they have a solid group of leadership coming back for them this fall with Clapper, Schultz and Kulinski leading the way. The Drinken to Burk combo could be lethal in UMAC play.
Minnesota-Morris is 3rd in my prediction of the final standings, Coach Hoffmann has made steady progress in his 4 years there and will make a run at a strong season that could even finish in the top 2 if things break right. Senior QB Reeb might be the best returning QB in the UMAC this season and that alone will make them tough to handle in most conference games.
Martin Luther College is getting a lot of love from the coaches in the preview poll, but man did they lose a ton of talent on both sides of the ball. RB Carson Oestreich is a beast who doubles as the UMAC 100-meter champion, but he will need to find running room behind a rebuilt OL. Add in rebuilding most of the defense and a 1st year college coach and there are a lot of hills to climb for this team.
Westminster falls into the 5th spot for me. RB Dobbins coming back for a 5th season in big for them, but he lost most of his help from a year ago on the offensive side of the ball. I think the defense can be fairly solid this year with Scales and Brandt leading a stout front 7. This is a team that could get better as the season goes along.
Crown and Finlandia will battle to stay out of the cellar. I thought Crown might have a chance to compete at the middle of the conference this season if they could retain their better players, but QB Jared Gilmore and WR Cole Mistretta not returning is a major blow to their progress. Retaining players is an issue for Finlandia also. One thing they have going for them is that Coach DuFrane is a hell of a defensive coach and I believe he will find a way to keep many games close. Add in a Freshman class of 35 with many from footballing states Florida, Louisiana and Texas and the Lions might just surprise a team or two along the way.
It may not be an exciting title race this season with little mystery who the dominate team is, but the battles for 2 through 7 should bring a good many fun and competitive game.
With every team opening with 4 non-conference games, wins will probably not be commonplace early in the year, fact is Greenville might be the only team favored to even win a non-conference game. But we never know who may surprise us from year to year and I greatly look forward to another season starting this weekend.
Best of luck to all the team and may everyone stay healthy this season.
My half informed preseason poll
1. Greenville
2. University of Minnesota - Morris
3. University of Northwestern
4. Martin Luther
5. Westminster
6. Crown
7. Finlandia
GU opens at Millikin on Saturday at 1p.
I have previously laid out the state of GU and its strong returning class. When tying to assess the 2022 version of this match up, I found the following on the CCIW board. I didn't know how to quote from one board to another so I grabbed the following. Thank you USEE for putting this together.
"For Millikin: 119 on the roster
13 seniors
7 juniors
32 soph
67 Freshmen
1 returning starter on offense, 2 upperclassmen in the OLine and almost no experience in that group as the entire OLine from 2021 is gone. They have zero upperclassmen QB's or RB's and their Soph QB threw 12 passes last year. No RB's with any carries in games last year return. They have some WR's with some game experience.
On Defense they have 5 returning starters (2 DL, 1 LB, 2 DB).
Unless the freshmen class is spectacular, I think Millikin is in for a very tough year on the field against many of the CCIW teams."
Edge GU, but I fully expect that this one comes down to the wire.
GU - 36
BIG BLUE - 29
Greenville at Millikin - This game feels like the UMAC's best chance to get a win this weekend. Greenville surprised them last season at home, but as GU1999 noted the player loses were many for Millikin from a year ago and even with this one on the road a loaded Greenville squad should probably go on the road and get the W.
Augsburg at Northwestern - Even though I'm bullish on the Eagles this season I think Augsburg might be too physical for Northwestern out of the gate. Northwestern as a history of late of starting the season slowly, hopefully that isn't the case on Saturday, and they can keep this one close. Keep it close and anything can happen from there.
Macalester at Minnesota-Morris - I so want to pick M-M in this spot, but just think the passing game for Macalester will pull this one out in a shootout. Might be the most entertaining game of the UMAC non-conference games this weekend.
Concordia-Wisconsin at Martin Luther - This was a great game a year ago in Wisconsin and if MLC hadn't lost their starting QB in the 2nd quarter they may well have won that day. This year is a different story though, even with the game in New Ulm the Knights will be an underdog. Concordia-Wis. returns most well everyone and MLC is rebuilding many of the position groups and being led by a young first year coach. Hoping for the best here, just not feeling it though.
Westminster (Mo.) at Knox - If Westminster is going to spring the upset here, they probably need a big day from their defense. They have a lot of new pieces on the offense that may take some time to jell. Thinking Knox holds service at home in this one.
Benedictine at Finlandia - This one might get a little ugly by the time it is over. Benedictine looks like they may well be one of the top dogs in the NACC and Finlandia is starting from ground level again this season. Looking for some small victories to build off of in this one.
Hamline at Crown - Surprisingly this was a fun shootout a year ago, but Crown doesn't bring the same players back from their passing attack for this one. A lot of unknowns on both sides of the ball for Crown and it may take a little time for them.
Overall, for the UMAC, one win would be a good day, two wins would be a great day, three would be an unbelievable day. Anything more would be a historic day.
Well, it wasn't a historic day. It wasn't an unbelievable day. It wasn't a great or good day. It was just a day in the life of UMAC non-conference football play and when the dust settled the composite was an 0-7 record for the weekend. As UMAC football goes we look for the positives and things to build on and I think there a fair amount of that to come from Saturday's action.
Greenville - The Millikin game had a role reversal feel to it, last year Millikin rolled into Greenville like all they needed to do was show up to get the victory and Greenville ambushed them for a huge win for their program. This year it was Greenville that may have been overconfident and a young Millikin team threw the first big blows and never looked back to take the victory. I think a real positive from the game for Greenville was that Peyton Bates was functional at QB in his first start at the college level. Millikin was not going to let Paul Garrett beat them a second time and stacked the box to limit him to 62 yards in rushing. Against many teams in the UMAC it won't matter, but against some of the better teams Bates is going to have to make plays to win those games. Still the team to beat for the title.
Northwestern - The most impressive showing of the weekend by a UMAC team was Northwestern against Augsburg. They matched the physicality of Augsburg and played them tough all the way to turning in over on downs in the final seconds in the redzone while nearing the game tying score. Despite a couple of turnovers Drinken probably played the best of all the UMAC QB's Saturday. Drinken was 22-34 with 307 yards and a pair of TDs. Beau Burks had 9 catches for 222 yards and one score, this Drinken to Burks combo is going to put up silly numbers this season. I didn't believe anyone could knock off Greenville to start the year, but Northwestern has a chance and the match-up will be played on Northwestern's field this year.
Minnesota-Morris - Not really sure what to think of the Macalester game. I believed Macalester's passing game was going to be a problem, but I also thought M-M would get enough stops to make it close to the end. The Cougars rushed for 250 yards, but was that product of a team playing with a big lead and inviting the run or is that the rushing attack we will see week in and week out? Next week against Hamline should give us a better idea of where M-M is at, but for now I think they are still holding the 3rd spot in the UMAC pecking order.
Martin Luther College - The Concordia (Wis.) game kind of went about how I expected it would with a SR. heavy Concordia team against a team with a lot of new faces in the starting lineups for MLC. A positive for MLC was the front 7 and the run defense, the box score will read 130 yards rushing allowed, but much of that come late with the defense wore down. The CBs are a real concern, but the DL looked good in game 1. Carson Oestreich was his usual amazing self with 146 yards rushing on 36 carries, yes 36 carries. That number highlights the biggest issue for the Knights after week one and may well be the biggest issue all season. Because of the poor QB play about the only play they have is to stick it in Oestreich's belly and hope he makes something happen on his own. QB Nordle threw the ball 12 times with the other team catching 4 of them, with one of them being an 88-yard pick six as time expired on the first half and giving Concordia-Wis. and 28-7 lead and the game was basically over at that point. Add in a fumble and that is 5 turnovers from the QB spot and with only one other QB on the roster there may not be an option to fixing the problem with someone else. MLC still remains in the 4th spot for now.
Westminster - This game with Knox played out a little like I thought it would. I thought Westminster would be offensively challenged early in the season, just not quit that challenged. They didn't get their second 1st down until midway through the 3rd quarter. The defense played well until they started to get gassed, but they should continue to be a strength for Westminster all season. FR. QB Bryce Westerfeld had a tough day in his first start, but things should only get better for him with playing time. We knew the offense was going to be a process. Wavering a bit but going to leave them in that 5th spot for now.
Crown - Losing to Hamline was not a surprise but Crown brought a ringer QB into the UMAC season mix and it will be interesting to see how this team grows and develops with him under center. Elijah Odom started his college career at Texas Southern and then transferred to Clark Atlanta, a division 2 school where he was the starting QB last season. Not going to get into the details of why he ended up at Crown but he did have some criminal issues in the spring that led to his departure from Clark Atlanta. In a conference where teams have a hard time finding even serviceable QB's, having one is a big leg up on most others. Leaving them 6th for now but thinking there is potential for better here.
Finlandia - Another game that went as most thought it might. The good news is that might have been the toughest opponent they see this season, bad news they are all going to be tough opponents this season. The highlight of the day for Finlandia was on their first drive when Hunter Miles hit Raiden Holdness for an 85-yard scoring strike, and they had themselves a 7-3 lead. Coach DuFrance has his work cut out there, but they couldn't ask for a better leader for the situation. Baby steps. Putting them in the 7th spot after week one.
I'm a '21 UNW football alum thats new to this page but I've listened to the ATN podcast and been meaning to join this. I was at the UNW game on Saturday and they looked much improved from last year. This game was much closer than I thought it would be. I think the thing that hurt the Eagles the most was that in the 3rd their starting center went out. The backup that came in rolled a few snaps back to Drinken that gave Augsburg the ball back. UNW should be a legit threat in the UMAC this year for the first time since Coach Talley left.
I was kind of surprised that Northwestern was picked behind Morris in the preseason coaches' poll. That seemed to be low for me.
Good luck this season!
Quote from: jstoll19 on September 06, 2022, 03:40:49 PM
I'm a '21 UNW football alum thats new to this page but I've listened to the ATN podcast and been meaning to join this. I was at the UNW game on Saturday and they looked much improved from last year. This game was much closer than I thought it would be. I think the thing that hurt the Eagles the most was that in the 3rd their starting center went out. The backup that came in rolled a few snaps back to Drinken that gave Augsburg the ball back. UNW should be a legit threat in the UMAC this year for the first time since Coach Talley left.
Welcome aboard 87, look forward to your thoughts and opinions on Northwestern and the UMAC throughout the course of the season.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 06, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
I was kind of surprised that Northwestern was picked behind Morris in the preseason coaches' poll. That seemed to be low for me.
Good luck this season!
I was very surprised too. I know they've been improving over the last few years, but I still don't think they're to the level of Greenville and UNW. I'm also very interested to see how Martin Luther does this year with the new coach.
This week's schedule and what Massey thinks, favored team bolded.
Finlandia @ Concordia Chicago - 28-10 with a 91%-win probability.
Crown @ Carleton - 42-7/97%
Iowa Wesleyan @ Westminster - 28-21/69%
Minnesota-Morris @ Hamline - 35-14/87%
Northwestern @ Concordia Wisconsin - 31-14/86%
Rockford @ Greenville - 37-31/62%
Martin Luther @ Macalester - 31-24/66%
Not surprising that Greenville is the only UMAC team favored to win but am surprised by the numbers for Northwestern and Minnesota-Morris. Thinking both those games should be closer than those scores and win probabilities should be about 20% less.
This week there are 3 games that will have common opponents from last week and should help define the UMAC pecking order. Does Minnesota-Morris deal with Hamline better than Crown did or does M-M belong in the bottom tier of the conference rather than the top tier? Does Northwestern play Concordia (Wis.) tougher than MLC did and stamp themselves as true contenders or are they a middle of the pack team? Can MLC handle Macalester better than M-M or are they more bottom tier than contender? It's early in the season and there is a lot of teams growing and developing, yet this weekend will shed a little more light onto what each team may be and may become.
UNW is tied up with Concordia Wisconsin at halftime. UNW looks to be evenly match with Concordia even after losing Nick Drinken at the end of the 1st. They definitely look a lot better than MLC did last week.
Quote from: jstoll19 on September 10, 2022, 03:13:56 PM
UNW is tied up with Concordia Wisconsin at halftime. UNW looks to be evenly match with Concordia even after losing Nick Drinken at the end of the 1st. They definitely look a lot better than MLC did last week.
Just came in from yard work, did Drinken get hurt?
Also, the first UMAC final is in, Concordia-Chicago defeated Finlandia 45-7.
Quote from: Baldini on September 10, 2022, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: jstoll19 on September 10, 2022, 03:13:56 PM
UNW is tied up with Concordia Wisconsin at halftime. UNW looks to be evenly match with Concordia even after losing Nick Drinken at the end of the 1st. They definitely look a lot better than MLC did last week.
Just came in from yard work, did Drinken get hurt?
Also, the first UMAC final is in, Concordia-Chicago defeated Finlandia 45-7.
Yeah. They said he got taken off on a stretcher. This game just went final as well. UNW loses 28-14 after shooting themselves in the foot with a handful of turnovers.
Quote from: Baldini on September 07, 2022, 10:00:52 AM
This week's schedule and what Massey thinks, favored team bolded.
Finlandia @ Concordia Chicago - 28-10 with a 91%-win probability.
Crown @ Carleton - 42-7/97%
Iowa Wesleyan @ Westminster - 28-21/69%
Minnesota-Morris @ Hamline - 35-14/87%
Northwestern @ Concordia Wisconsin - 31-14/86%
Rockford @ Greenville - 37-31/62%
Martin Luther @ Macalester - 31-24/66%
Not surprising that Greenville is the only UMAC team favored to win but am surprised by the numbers for Northwestern and Minnesota-Morris. Thinking both those games should be closer than those scores and win probabilities should be about 20% less.
This week there are 3 games that will have common opponents from last week and should help define the UMAC pecking order. Does Minnesota-Morris deal with Hamline better than Crown did or does M-M belong in the bottom tier of the conference rather than the top tier? Does Northwestern play Concordia (Wis.) tougher than MLC did and stamp themselves as true contenders or are they a middle of the pack team? Can MLC handle Macalester better than M-M or are they more bottom tier than contender? It's early in the season and there is a lot of teams growing and developing, yet this weekend will shed a little more light onto what each team may be and may become.
Massey is in mid-season form hitting 6 for 6 going into tonight's game, can MLC break the streak?
Finlandia 7 @
Concordia Chicago 45
Crown 14 @
Carleton 84
Iowa Wesleyan 41 @ Westminster 6
Minnesota-Morris 21 @
Hamline 34
Northwestern 14 @
Concordia Wisconsin 28
Rockford 30 @
Greenville 40
Martin Luther 7 @
Macalester 43
And Massey is 7 for 7 in week 2.
The state of the UMAC after week 2 is probably, 'they are who we thought they were'.
1.) Greenville remains the team to beat and might be the only team that will get a non-conference win this season and could get 2 with Manchester coming up at home next weekend. Minnesota-Morris hosts Lawrence in week 4, so they could also grab a non-conference victory for the UMAC, but the rest are real longshots to pull off a win.
2.) Northwestern still is the clear second team in the conference and probably the only team that can give Greenville a good game this year in conference play, with that game at Northwestern I'm giving them a punchers chance to knock the 2021 champs off. With UW-River Falls and Hope remaining on the non-conference schedule it is going to be a tough couple of weeks ahead before conference play starts.
3.) Minnesota-Morris is the clear number 3 team here basically by default. The Cougars are scoring some points and that can't be said for all the remaining teams. The defense has been suspect in the first 2 games, but their offense keeps them in most games in UMAC play this season.
4.) Martin Luther will hold the 4th spot for now, but they are sliding in with the group of Crown, Finlandia and Westminster. The current advantage MLC holds over the others is that they play all 3 of them at home. Was able to watch all of their game last night and it was disturbing to see the falloff in play from past seasons, new coach is no comparison to old coach. Coach Stein is already being missed in that locker room.
5.) Westminster is 5th again this week and the only thing keeping them from moving up is showing a little life on offense and I don't know if it is coming or not. When UMAC play arrives though their defense will likely keep many of the games competitive. Wouldn't be shocking to see them end up anywhere between 4th to 7th. A little offensive production is the key here.
6.) Finlandia is bumping up a spot this week because their coach has them battling to the last play of the game and that can't be said for all of the teams this week. Like Westminster this is a very offensively challenged team and that probably isn't going to change overnight. Never quitting is a sign of character though and is a huge step in the right direction.
7.) Crown will occupy the bottom this week. Last week I thought there may be some upside to this team with the new QB on the field, but not sure if he brings anything extra to the team or not. He plays a little like he really doesn't want to be there. The good thing this week is that they have St. Scholastica coming to town and they have a chance to keep the game respectable and build on some positive play. Like all the bottom four in this conference there is room to improve enough to get some wins, so will Crown be a team to improve? All is yet to be determined.
Lyon (Batesville, Arkansas) College has announced it is joining the SLIAC in 2023. Has anyone heard whether they have been invited to the UMAC?
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 11, 2022, 09:51:21 PM
Lyon (Batesville, Arkansas) College has announced it is joining the SLIAC in 2023. Has anyone heard whether they have been invited to the UMAC?
Assuming you are talking about as an associate member for football. Haven't heard anything along those lines and it would be surprising to me if that happened even though the UMAC needs another member or two for football. On the surface the SAA seems like a better fit from the logistics side, have no idea about the academic fit though.
Geography wise the SAA is probably the better fit. Don't think teams right now would like to see a conference's footprint go from Arkansas to the Keweenaw Peninsula.
Not sure what to make of MLC at this point. Can't really fault Huebner because he was kind of left with a retool/rebuild after losing a lot from last year but after the top 2, there isn't much difference between the rest of the league.
This week's schedule with Massey's win probabilities for UMAC teams.
Manchester @ Greenville - 55%
St. Scholastica @ Crown - 36%
Augsburg @ Martin Luther - 20%
Westminster @ Sewanee - 10%
Finlandia @ Iowa Wesleyan - 6%
Minn.-Morris @ Carleton - 3%
Northwestern @ UW-River Falls - 1%
Greenville is the only team that is a favorite and that is a slight one at that. Any of the other 6 teams gaining a win would be a major upset for the UMAC.
Iowa Wesleyan 55 Finlandia 0
Augsburg 45 Martin Luther 7
St. Scholastica 63 Crown 14
Greenville 49 Manchester 22
Carleton 41 Minnesota Morris 7
#17 UW-River Falls 63 Northwestern 27
Sewanee 41 Westminster (MO) 6
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 17, 2022, 11:30:04 PM
Iowa Wesleyan 55 Finlandia 0
Augsburg 45 Martin Luther 7
St. Scholastica 63 Crown 14
Greenville 49 Manchester 22
Carleton 41 Minnesota Morris 7
#17 UW-River Falls 63 Northwestern 27
Sewanee 41 Westminster (MO) 6
Thanks Joe.
No surprises this week either. Three weeks are complete and the UMAC is 2-19 with one more week of non-conference games to go. My thoughts on the conference really haven't changed from the preseason poll to now, Northwestern is a little better than I thought, and I thought they were probably the second-best team this season from the beginning.
Last season Greenville battled Martin Luther in the first week of conference play and got the victory in OT in what would basically to the title game in week one. This season Greenville will travel to Northwestern in the second week of conference play in what very well may be the conference title game. I just don't see anyone else being able to give Greenville or Northwestern much of a game this year.
Minnesota-Morris is the clear 3rd team still, feels like their destiny is to go 4-2 in conference play.
The other 4 teams feel like they can't win a game unless they are playing each other. Good news for them is that they all will have some chances to win some games this season.
Massey UMAC ratings this afternoon, three games in.
1.) Greenville
2.) Martin Luther
3.) Northwestern
4.) Minnesota-Morris
5.) Westminster
6.) Finlandia
7.) Crown
These are interesting to me. Martin Luther and Northwestern have 2 common opponents and anyone watching those games would not have come away thinking MLC was the better team. Northwestern battled Augsburg to the end and gave Concordia-Wisconsin a good game most of the way, MLC was never a danger to win either game. Minnesota-Morris also has a common opponent with MLC in Macalester, M-M lost 45-24 and MLC lost 43-7. Not much of a difference, but M-M did generate some offense and MLC could only gain a late 4th quarter TD. Over time Massey does seem like they get in right a large percentage of the time, interesting for UMAC fans to watch as the season plays out.
This week was GUs best game of the season by quite some amount. The game was more lopsided than the final score presented. GU was up 42 - 9 in the 3rd. Mildly concerning that returning DPOY T. McLaurin missed the second game in a row.
Fun Link for GU people and GU intrigued folks. "The Show" features AD Tom Ackermann, GU basketball coach Dr. George Barber and Dr. Doug Faulkner, the Dean of Professional Studies and former AD/Basketball coach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_JcXI9p0k8
I know this isn't the volleyball board, but I gotta give a shoutout to the UNW volleyball team for beating #5, 8, and 9 teams in the nation last week and moving up to #3 in the nation. They have a great chance at making it back to the Final Four this year.
I love that Northwestern is extending the tradition of excellence among Minnesota colleges in women's volleyball!
4th and final week of non-conference play for the UMAC. Here is a little look at what Massey thinks of this week's games.
Olivet @ Greenville - Massey gives Greenville a 21% chance to win this game with a likely score of 41-24. I'm thinking this is a closer game then that though, thinking this one will still be hanging in the balance deep into the 4th quarter.
Hope @ Northwestern - Massey only gives Northwestern a 2% chance to win with a score of 40-7. Now I get Hope should be a heavy favorite here, but 2% seems awfully low. I'm thinking (hoping) Northwestern puts up a respectable fight in this game and makes it closer than 40-7.
Lawrence @ Minnesota-Morris - Massey gives M-M a 58% chance to win this game with a likely score of 31-27. This might be the UMAC's big chance to win a game this weekend. GO COUGARS!
Martin Luther @ Alma - Massey gives MLC a 1% chance to win with a score of 36-3. If the Knights hold Alma to 36 points that would probably be a big win for them. Good news is conference play starts next week; bad news is they open at Greenville.
Westminster @ Rhodes - Massey gives Westminster a 1% chance to win with a likely score of 42-7. If Westminster can get their offense in gear this week a little that would be a win for them going into conference play.
Finlandia @ Adrian - Massey gives Finlandia a 0% chance (really) to win with a score of 49-0. Same thing here, find some offensive life and build from there for next week.
Crown @ UW-Stout - Massey gives Crown a 0% chance to win with a score of 55-3. Crown won't slow the Blue Devils down much, but can they score a few? Good news for Crown is they have a bye next week before starting UMAC play at MLC.
Probably going to be a tough week conference wide, but there are things to use to build on for league play.
Well, the annual bloodbath that is UMAC non-conference play is finally over, and it was worse this season then most others. The fact they now play 4 non-conference games is even more painful, we long for the days when they played only 1 or 2. Of course it doesn't help with the way some of these team's schedule, hats off to Greenville and Minnesota-Morris for scheduling some games where their squads had a fighting chance to be competitive.
UMAC teams ended up 3-25 with Greenville getting wins against Rockford and Manchester and M-M against Lawrence. The week four matchups against MIAA schools had some very ugly results and the bad news is these games will probably be an annual thing without an additional team being added for conference play.
Still think the UMAC title will be decided in two weeks at Northwestern when Greenville visits, but Minnesota-Morris is going to hang around and be a dark horse to the end. The schedule lays out perfectly for the Cougars with the first 4 games being Westminster, Finlandia, Crown and Martin Luther. Very likely they enter the last 2 weeks 4-0 in conference play and full of confidence before playing at Northwestern and Greenville at home. They should keep it interesting to the end.
Aside from the top 3 who should give us some fun games, the bottom 4 should also. Crown is the only one of that group to show any ability to score, yet they also show no ability to stop anyone. Finlandia and Westminster both show a lot of fight on the defensive side, but the offenses are MIA. MLC in 4 weeks has become a complete hot mess, a year ago they played Alma close to even and Saturday they lost to Alma 69-0 and the game could have easily been 90-0. The advantage for MLC in the bottom 4 is that they get all 3 opponents at home this year.
The UMAC isn't going to make any mark on the D3 landscape in the post season, but the next 6 weeks should bring a bunch of competitive games from the UMAC fishbowl.
Quote from: GU1999 on September 19, 2022, 01:20:12 PM
This week was GUs best game of the season by quite some amount. The game was more lopsided than the final score presented. GU was up 42 - 9 in the 3rd. Mildly concerning that returning DPOY T. McLaurin missed the second game in a row.
I see McLaurin missed another game, any update on when he may return?
The UMAC conference play kicks off with 3 games tomorrow and 3 teams doing some serious traveling.
Northwestern travels just short of 400 miles to Hancock, Michigan to face Finlandia. Northwestern should be 3 TDs or more better than the Lions, but Finlandia gave them a very tough game a year ago in St. Paul. The game features the UMAC's top passing offense in Northwestern against the top passing defense in Finlandia, if Finlandia can slow their passing game they should be able to hang around for most of the game. Both teams have really struggled to run the ball with Finlandia averaging 39.8 rushing a game and Northwestern only 33.5, the 2 lowest in the conference as to date. Feels like something will give with running the ball on Saturday. Guessing Northwestern gets the first road win by any team in the conference so far this season and they have an enjoyable ride home.
Minnesota-Morris is making the 668-mile journey to Fulton, MO. to take on Westminster in what could be the best matchup of the day in the UMAC. The game pits the number one overall offense and top rushing offense with Minnesota-Morris against the top overall defense in Westminster. The whole key to this game will be the Westminster offense, can they produce some points? If not, it will be a replay of their first four games where the defense wears down and the game gets out of reach in the second half. Guessing the Cougars make it two wins for the road teams this week.
Martin Luther College travels 593 miles to face Greenville. Greenville has the top scoring offense and is averaging 27.5 points; MLC is giving up 48 points a game. This game looks like a complete mismatch and if RB Carson Oestreich is out for the Knights this one will probably get ugly in a hurry. If Oestreich returns, they will have a chance to control the clock some and keep it respectable. The turnover rate for MLC has been ridiculous this season with over 20 fumbles in 4 games and 9 INT's from only 51 pass attempts. Guessing Greenville makes easy work of MLC and sets up the big matchup at Northwestern next week.
Crown is on a bye this weekend.
Northwestern took care of their business with a 30-0 win over Finlandia. The defense continues to battle for Finlandia, but the offense just fails to produce much. 5 total first downs and 117 yards in total offense will lead to a long day. Northwestern had a workman like day and in the process got their running game going to the tune of 265 yards which is something that has been missing so far this season.
The Minnesota-Morris and Westminster game played out mostly as expected. The Cougars balanced attack put up 28 points and kept making enough plays to keep the home team in the rearview mirror. A good sign for Westminster was that their offense generated 13 first downs and actually won the time of position battle to help their defense out. We knew it was going to be baby steps on that side of the ball, but it was a good step made on Saturday.
I went into Saturday thinking I would be mostly watching the M-M @ Westminster game, but I spent my time watch all of the Martin Luther @ Greenville game. First, I'll give MLC a lot of credit for pushing Greenville to the very end. Yet this game always felt like Greenville was playing with their food and was going to win the game even when they were down 14 in the 4th quarter. I know that may sound odd to read, but Greenville did whatever they wanted to the MLC defense all afternoon. The game was tied at 13 at halftime and Greenville was averaging 10.2 per rush. Until the 4th quarter the Greenville defense spent most of their time talking about what they were going to do to the Knights offense and doing very little to actually stopping them. Greenville had 14 penalties on the day and a number of them were of the unsportsmanlike taunting type. But after MLC scored on the first play of the 4th quarter the Greenville defense said enough and just shut the MLC offense off. The last scoring drive really sums up how Greenville played with them. With 45 seconds left in the game and the score tied at 27, Greenville took over at their own 10-yard line and preceded to go 88 yards to kick the winning FG with 3 seconds remaining. Of course, Greenville added another taunting penalty after the FG just for good measure.
3 games today with Westminster having the bye this weekend.
Greenville @ Northwestern sure looks like the title game for the UMAC and should be a good one today. When the season started Greenville looked like a lock to repeat as the champions, but it does look like they read all the press clippings and believed all they needed to do was show up. Was dodging a bullet last weekend enough of a wakeup call to get their attention? Have they just not put in the effort to be the best they can be, and Northwestern takes the upper hand for the title race today? If the Northwestern run defense can hold up, they could well dethrone the 2021 champs. Must watch game in the UMAC today.
Finlandia @ Minnesota-Morris seems like a bad matchup for Finlandia. The Cougars #1 rushing attack may have their way with the visitors today and combined with the Finlandia lack of offense, it could be a long day for the Lions.
Crown @ Martin Luther could be an interesting game. Crown had their bye last week and the extra week to prepare along with a passing attack that could be trouble for the Knights, they may make this interesting. It is MLC's homecoming, and they did show their first sign of life last weekend by pushing Greenville to the end, now can they build on that? The MLC back line defense has been just brutal this season and that is being kind in description. Crown likely will make a number of big plays in the passing game; can they make enough to stay in the game is the question. On the other side of the ball MLC should put up a huge day on the ground, which should propel them to a victory and send the homecoming crowd home happy.
I would like to point out that UNW just beat Greenville somewhat easily with a QB that has a broken left wrist. Looks like they should definitely win the AQ for the UMAC.
Quote from: jstoll19 on October 08, 2022, 08:07:33 PM
I would like to point out that UNW just beat Greenville somewhat easily with a QB that has a broken left wrist. Looks like they should definitely win the AQ for the UMAC.
Congratulations 87 on a huge win for Northwestern and your former teammates, they have put themselves in the driver's seat from here.
We viewed the game a little differently though, if you need an INT in your territory in the final minute to stop Greenville from a game winning drive, I can hardly call that beating Greenville 'somewhat easily'. Northwestern played with the lead throughout, but Greenville was in their rearview mirror to the end. 3 INT's and a blocked punt for a TD were great plays for Northwestern and just too much for Greenville to overcome.
Greenville - Northwestern lived up to the billing and was a wonderful game to watch. Greenville got down 20 in the 4th quarter after Damon Clapper's blocked punt and return for a score, but Greenville never quit and had the ball in the final minutes with a chance for the winning score. Northwestern's Luke Malamisuro would have none of it as he would get the game winning INT at the Northwestern 37-yard line with 1:15 remaining and a 41-35 victory for the Eagles.
Kudos to the Crown Polars for breaking into the win column with a 26-20 victory over Martin Luther on the Knights Homecoming Day game. Crown scored the go-ahead TD with 25 seconds remaining in the game. Game balls should go to every member of the defense for holding the Knights to 6 second half points and giving the offense a chance to get on a roll. Crown's defense had been giving up an average of 63 points per game entering this game. Crazy how far MLC has fallen this season, they look like a rudderless ship right now and 0-10 may well be staring them in the face.
The Minnesota-Morris - Finlandia game went mostly as expected and actually the Lions played them better than I originally thought they would. Finlandia for the first time this season showed some real life on the offensive side of the ball. In the end a business-like performance was put in by the Cougars to get the 28-12 win at home. Coach Mike DuFrane has his Finlandia team moving in the right direction, and they have a real chance to get their first win for the program since 2017 when they travel to Martin Luther next Saturday.
Congrats to Crown on the win.
Quote from: jstoll19 on October 08, 2022, 08:07:33 PM
Looks like they should definitely win the AQ for the UMAC.
Has UNW made it to the post-season before? I can't recall that happening.
Quote from: DuffMan on October 10, 2022, 04:04:53 PM
Quote from: jstoll19 on October 08, 2022, 08:07:33 PM
Looks like they should definitely win the AQ for the UMAC.
Has UNW made it to the post-season before? I can't recall that happening.
They made it in 2016 and lost to St. Thomas 43-0.
Ah, ok, thanks!
The UMAC has been playing football as a conference since 1974 but received their first AQ in 2011. St. Scholastica rep'd the first 5 seasons, in 2012 there was a 3-way tie for the title and CSS won the draw for post season play. Northwestern broke the streak in 2016, Eureka in 2017, Martin Luther in 2018 and 2019, no football in 2020 and Greenville in 2021.
I didn't watch any UMAC football this weekend and just checked in on the scores. This week really separated the top teams from the bottom teams with all 3 games ending in shutouts.
Minnesota-Morris keeps their title hopes alive with a 27-0 shutout of Crown. The Cougars showdown on the 29th versus Northwestern could be for at least a share of the title. With their final two games at Northwestern and at Greenville, could we see a three-way tie at 5-1 when the regular season concludes? A fair chance the UMAC playoff representative isn't decided until the final week of the season.
Westminster had the misfortune of catching an angry Greenville team fresh off their loss to Northwestern and took the 52-0 defeat in Greenville. Westminster continues to struggle on offense and gets no break this week when they host Northwestern, but light is at the end of the tunnel for chances to break into the win column with their final 3 games against Finlandia, MLC and Crown.
Martin Luther got in the win column with a 34-0 win over Finlandia, the Knights broke open a 7-0 halftime game with 27 third quarter points. Finlandia has hope in the coming weeks to get that first win in 5 years when they host Crown this week and host Westminster the following week. MLC's power run game was probably a bad matchup for the Lions, but Crown leans heavily on the pass which might be ideal for a Finlandia chance at victory.
UNW's defense and special teams are playing a dominating game today with 5 tour overs so far half way through the 3rd. And 2 of those are blocked punts for TD's. The offense is looking good not great but that's ok when your defense is playing out of their mind.
Last weekend's games were nothing to write home about, but this coming weekend should give us a couple of interesting games.
The two teams that remain undefeated in conference play will clash when Minnesota-Morris travels to face Northwestern on their home turf. I was thinking the Cougars might get this upset win until I watched RB Izayah Boss go down in the 3rd quarter of their game against MLC with what looked like a lower leg injury. Boss in an explosive runner and it will be hard for Minnesota-Morris to replace his production in their offense. Can the Cougars overcome the setback or is it just the Eagles year where the stars have aligned for them? It should be a great game regardless.
Another fun game to keep an eye on will be the Westminster at Finlandia game. Both teams enter this game winless, something will have to give with someone getting in the win column (a low scoring tie wouldn't be out of the question here though). Finlandia might have a small competitive advantage with Westminster having to travel 755 miles to play this game. If Finlandia can pull this one out and Westminster bounce back next week to get a win against Martin Luther, everyone in the conference will have tasted victory at least once on this season. Odds are there will be a winless UMAC squat this season which should led to this being a hard-fought game throughout.
The 3rd game on Saturday is Crown traveling to Greenville in what probably will be a one-sided game. That is if Greenville comes ready to play, which hasn't always been the case this season for them.
Martin Luther is on the bye this weekend.
The Northwestern hosting Minnesota-Morris game ended with Northwestern in full control of their playoff destiny, for M-M it ended with what might have been. Northwestern only needs to handle their business with Crown and Martin Luther to wrap-up the AQ bid and maybe a first-round game with Bethel that would be to the delight of @AO, I'm sure.
This week's games are not the most exciting trio, but Northwestern still needs to show up against a scrappy Crown team as will Greenville against Finlandia. If Northwestern and Greenville stay focused both games may well be lopsided games though. The game with a chance to be a close battle is the Westminster @ Martin Luther game, an evenly matched game between two 1-7 teams and who ends up with a second win on the year. A game that seems like a complete tossup. Can Westminster overcome another long road trip two weeks in a row?
Minnesota-Morris is on the bye this weekend.
Quote from: Baldini on November 04, 2022, 11:47:35 AM
The Northwestern hosting Minnesota-Morris game ended with Northwestern in full control of their playoff destiny, for M-M it ended with what might have been. Northwestern only needs to handle their business with Crown and Martin Luther to wrap-up the AQ bid and maybe a first-round game with Bethel that would be to the delight of @AO, I'm sure.
This week's games are not the most exciting trio, but Northwestern still needs to show up against a scrappy Crown team as will Greenville against Finlandia. If Northwestern and Greenville stay focused both games may well be lopsided games though. The game with a chance to be a close battle is the Westminster @ Martin Luther game, an evenly matched game between two 1-7 teams and who ends up with a second win on the year. A game that seems like a complete tossup. Can Westminster overcome another long road trip two weeks in a row?
Minnesota-Morris is on the bye this weekend.
I'd rather be on the opposite side of the bracket from Bethel so we could meet in the Stagg.
Quote from: AO on November 04, 2022, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 04, 2022, 11:47:35 AM
The Northwestern hosting Minnesota-Morris game ended with Northwestern in full control of their playoff destiny, for M-M it ended with what might have been. Northwestern only needs to handle their business with Crown and Martin Luther to wrap-up the AQ bid and maybe a first-round game with Bethel that would be to the delight of @AO, I'm sure.
This week's games are not the most exciting trio, but Northwestern still needs to show up against a scrappy Crown team as will Greenville against Finlandia. If Northwestern and Greenville stay focused both games may well be lopsided games though. The game with a chance to be a close battle is the Westminster @ Martin Luther game, an evenly matched game between two 1-7 teams and who ends up with a second win on the year. A game that seems like a complete tossup. Can Westminster overcome another long road trip two weeks in a row?
Minnesota-Morris is on the bye this weekend.
I'd rather be on the opposite side of the bracket from Bethel so we could meet in the Stagg.
I wasn't thinking along those lines, but I like it.
Quote from: AO on November 04, 2022, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 04, 2022, 11:47:35 AM
The Northwestern hosting Minnesota-Morris game ended with Northwestern in full control of their playoff destiny, for M-M it ended with what might have been. Northwestern only needs to handle their business with Crown and Martin Luther to wrap-up the AQ bid and maybe a first-round game with Bethel that would be to the delight of @AO, I'm sure.
This week's games are not the most exciting trio, but Northwestern still needs to show up against a scrappy Crown team as will Greenville against Finlandia. If Northwestern and Greenville stay focused both games may well be lopsided games though. The game with a chance to be a close battle is the Westminster @ Martin Luther game, an evenly matched game between two 1-7 teams and who ends up with a second win on the year. A game that seems like a complete tossup. Can Westminster overcome another long road trip two weeks in a row?
Minnesota-Morris is on the bye this weekend.
I'd rather be on the opposite side of the bracket from Bethel so we could meet in the Stagg.
I would love to think that a UNW Bethel Stagg Bowl would be a possibility as my mom's side of the family are all Bethel grads, but I would rather this be a first round game so that it will actually happen. I would love to think UNW can make it to the Stagg bowl but I'm going to be realistic about this.
Bethel still has their work cut out for them...
Big day on the Northwestern campus as the football team wins the AQ and the volleyball team battles for a spot in the elite 8 of their playoffs.
Quote from: Baldini on November 12, 2022, 06:35:01 PM
Big day on the Northwestern campus as the football team wins the AQ and the volleyball team battles for a spot in the elite 8 of their playoffs.
VB squad in a real dogfight with WIAC power UW-Whitewater at the moment (in the 3rd set, each squad split the first two)
Developing. . . .
UPDATE: NW-MN now just one set win away (up 2-1 on UW-Whitewater)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on November 12, 2022, 07:22:58 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 12, 2022, 06:35:01 PM
Big day on the Northwestern campus as the football team wins the AQ and the volleyball team battles for a spot in the elite 8 of their playoffs.
VB squad in a real dogfight with WIAC power UW-Whitewater at the moment (in the 3rd set, each squad split the first two)
Developing. . . .
UPDATE: NW-MN now just one set win away (up 2-1 on UW-Whitewater)
Look out, Elite 8, here come the NW-MN Eagles! They knocked off UW-Whitewater 3 sets to 1! (and knocked off 2 Top 15 squads and one ARV in the regional!)
NW-MN gets the football team-VB team double done--Congratulations to both squads!
Congrats to Damon Clapper for the 2nd team all-region honors!
Finlandia is closing its doors. Too bad they couldn't win a game in their one season in the umac
https://www.finlandia.edu/about/teachout/
It was an issue to get kids up there and Finlandia. Limited selection of majors, recruiting wasn't there from local (Plenty of talent from the UP and northern WI), and lack of conference direction (Baseball in the WIAC, Football in the UMAC after the MIAA and everything else in the sprawling C2C) made it tough for the Lions in a very isolated part of the D3 landscape (Northland is the nearest D3 at 150 miles). Plus being 10 minutes from Michigan Tech did not help matters.
I felt football was a chance for them to boost enrollment but initial delay to get going plus the turnover in players and coaches disrupted the direction of the program. Being in the UMAC was the best fit for them despite the distances for some away games. I think they would've found life in the league a lot more to their liking.
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on March 02, 2023, 10:52:17 PM
It was an issue to get kids up there and Finlandia. Limited selection of majors, recruiting wasn't there from local (Plenty of talent from the UP and northern WI), and lack of conference direction (Baseball in the WIAC, Football in the UMAC after the MIAA and everything else in the sprawling C2C) made it tough for the Lions in a very isolated part of the D3 landscape (Northland is the nearest D3 at 150 miles). Plus being 10 minutes from Michigan Tech did not help matters.
I felt football was a chance for them to boost enrollment but initial delay to get going plus the turnover in players and coaches disrupted the direction of the program. Being in the UMAC was the best fit for them despite the distances for some away games. I think they would've found life in the league a lot more to their liking.
Agree with you Capt_Joe. I think the UMAC was the best fit for Finlandia for football. Yet, as you said, the difficulty was in trying to get the right players up there. I posted this over on our MIAA board- I believe that if they had concentrated more on recruiting from the Upper Peninsula instead of trying to get players from Florida, Detroit, and other long distant places, they may have had a chance. Certainly, the instability in the coaching staff did not help either when you are getting coaches from far away places with DI or similar experience. Those guys aren't going to stay. As I mentioned, there are a lot of 8 man fb hs programs in the U.P., which I believe could have been of help to the program if they had concentrated more in that direction.
All that said, still there were other non-fb factors as you and others mentioned and that their President pointed to that set the death sentence for the school. Overall, a very sad ending to a historic school, which served the community well for so long and as best as they could in recent years. But...it is the sign of the times in seeing some DIII and DII schools either dropping football or, worse, going defunct. And as many others have said on these boards, this won't be the last, unfortunately. Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts/opinions on this sad development.
Good afternoon everyone,
This is my first post here so thanks to everyone for reading. I am a big follower of the UMAC, and since it seems like there hasn't been any week 1 pick 'ems yet, I will get it started.
Crown @ Hamline
I am picking Hamline to win this match up. I think that Hamline's defense will hold crown, and that they may be too much for the Polar offense.
I am thinking that this game will be 47-17 HAMLINE
Greenville @ Concordia Chicago
I personally think Greenville will be one of the better teams in the UMAC once again. With Paul Garrett returning, he is bound to have another good season behind that seasoned offensive line. Greenville will be hard to beat this year bringing back returners on defense and offense.
I think that this game ends up 24-14 Greenville
Martin Luther @ Concordia Wisconsin
I still think Martin Luther is a little too young to compete this season. Concordia Wisconsin gave them a good game last year, and I believe that it will happen once again. I think Concordia wins this one and it will show that Martin Luther is still a little young/
This one will be 31-8 Concordia Wisconsin
University of Minnesota Morris @ Macalester
I really think that this is the year that UMM takes that next step and finally wins some non-conference games. The Cougars return eleven all conference players, only losing two to graduation. The cougars have a deep offense and defense, and I am very excited to watch this team this season. I personally think that this is their year to do something dangerous within the UMAC.
34-27 UMM
University of Northwestern @ Augsburg
UNW is another team that will be at the top of the UMAC, returning a solid group of players. I do not see UNW winning against Augsburg though. They also return quite a bit on offense and defense, so I think that this game will be interesting, but Augsburg will bring home the win in a close one.
24-10 Augsburg
Rhodes @ Westminster
This is another team that may be rebuilding this year. I fear that Westminster may have a tough year ahead of them. I think that Rhodes comes to them and it is a pretty long afternoon for the Bluejays
57-14 Rhodes
Remember that these are all of my own opinions, and that we are all allowed to have our own! Looking forward to posting more, and let's have a great football season!
Good to see a little action from the UMAC board. Welcome!
Quote from: Masfootball41 on August 29, 2023, 01:29:16 PM
Good afternoon everyone,
This is my first post here so thanks to everyone for reading. I am a big follower of the UMAC, and since it seems like there hasn't been any week 1 pick 'ems yet, I will get it started.
Crown @ Hamline
I am picking Hamline to win this match up. I think that Hamline's defense will hold crown, and that they may be too much for the Polar offense.
I am thinking that this game will be 47-17 HAMLINE
Greenville @ Concordia Chicago
I personally think Greenville will be one of the better teams in the UMAC once again. With Paul Garrett returning, he is bound to have another good season behind that seasoned offensive line. Greenville will be hard to beat this year bringing back returners on defense and offense.
I think that this game ends up 24-14 Greenville
Martin Luther @ Concordia Wisconsin
I still think Martin Luther is a little too young to compete this season. Concordia Wisconsin gave them a good game last year, and I believe that it will happen once again. I think Concordia wins this one and it will show that Martin Luther is still a little young/
This one will be 31-8 Concordia Wisconsin
University of Minnesota Morris @ Macalester
I really think that this is the year that UMM takes that next step and finally wins some non-conference games. The Cougars return eleven all conference players, only losing two to graduation. The cougars have a deep offense and defense, and I am very excited to watch this team this season. I personally think that this is their year to do something dangerous within the UMAC.
34-27 UMM
University of Northwestern @ Augsburg
UNW is another team that will be at the top of the UMAC, returning a solid group of players. I do not see UNW winning against Augsburg though. They also return quite a bit on offense and defense, so I think that this game will be interesting, but Augsburg will bring home the win in a close one.
24-10 Augsburg
Rhodes @ Westminster
This is another team that may be rebuilding this year. I fear that Westminster may have a tough year ahead of them. I think that Rhodes comes to them and it is a pretty long afternoon for the Bluejays
57-14 Rhodes
Remember that these are all of my own opinions, and that we are all allowed to have our own! Looking forward to posting more, and let's have a great football season!
I think it would be wonderful if the UMAC could pick up two road wins in week one. I am hopeful that we get at least one, and I suspect that the best shot is GU at CUC.
Quote from: DuffMan on August 29, 2023, 03:24:59 PM
Good to see a little action from the UMAC board. Welcome!
Happy to be here! I will be following mainly the UMAC and MIAC this year (following the MIAC because some former teammates and coaches are working within the MIAC). Regardless, looking forward to a great season from both conferences! Any recommendations on what other conferences to follow as well?
Quote from: Masfootball41 on August 29, 2023, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on August 29, 2023, 03:24:59 PM
Good to see a little action from the UMAC board. Welcome!
Happy to be here! I will be following mainly the UMAC and MIAC this year (following the MIAC because some former teammates and coaches are working within the MIAC). Regardless, looking forward to a great season from both conferences! Any recommendations on what other conferences to follow as well?
ASC
Northwest
WIAC
OAC
Liberty League and E8
NESCAC (very active but pretty insular since they don't play out-of-conference or take part in the playoffs)
Some are more active than others, obviously, but you'll usually find good discussions at these.
Time for my annual recruit message...
Let me know if anyone is interested in participating in the Region 6 fan poll. I'll probably have at least one open spot if you're interested.
Much appreciated!
Playoff projections for the season using my model's preseason ratings:
(https://i.imgur.com/siQLpP0.png)
You can look at other conferences on my website: https://hansenratings.github.io/ (https://hansenratings.github.io/).
Hansen game breakdown:
GU wins 35 - 27.1 (I think GU -8 is about right. Not sure it will be this high scoring)
NW loses 38.2 - 18.4 (This should probable be another touchdown heavier. 45-17 maybe.)
UM-M loses 37.4 - 23.2 (This will be tighter than a 14 point game. I suspect it is more like a 7 margin for Macalaster)
Westminster loses 33.4 - 0 (Bold prediction... Westmin will score a point. But +33 is not large enough. Would not be surprised if this was a 40+ differential.)
Crown loses 37.7 - 19.8 (I do not think that this line is large enough. Hamline will score more than 45+ and likely keep Crown to 14 or less.)
ML loses 33.5 - 12.2 (I think that +21 is a bit much for this game. ML will keep it within 14, but CUW will win.)
Aggregated scoring
108.6 scored by UMAC teams
207.3 conceded by UMAC teams
Again, the UMAC should be happy to get a win this weekend.
Unfortunately, the UMAC did go 1-5 yesterday. The games were more one sided than predicted. The lone bright spot was GU cruising in River Forest. GU was up 34-0 at the start of the 4th. Defense and special teams lead the way with 3 TDS. Lots of good reps for the lower half of the roster. That said, they need to clean up the passing game.
Week 2 Picks
Eurreka @ Greenville
I think that this is a great match up for both teams, but personally think that Eurreka walks away with a close win.
Sewanee @ Westminster
I believe that this game won't be very close, but hey maybe the long bus ride gives Westy the advantage.
Concordia Wisconsin @ Northwestern
Here is another one that will be a great match up. Got to watch CW play Martin Luther last weekend, and I personally think that this will be a great game.
Simpson @ Crown
This may be the chance for Crown to get their first win of the year, along with a couple of other teams in the UMAC as well. I think that it can be a toss up but I am going with Simpson.
Macalester @ Martin Luther
I Watched Mac play last week, thinking that it will be a long afternoon for Martin Luther.
Hamline @ Minnesota Morris
I am picking Morris for this game. Bouncing back after a close one against a MIAC opponent, I think that the Cougars get it done this week and get their first win of the season.
OK Masfootball41 I like that you are going with the underdogs in two of these games.
Hansen (-8) and Massey (-3) both have GU favoured this week against the 'Fighting Ronny Reagans'. While UM-M is a dog against Hamline in both (Hansen +2 and Massey +11). And yes, I know the predictive models are not actual odds makers. Although, if you were offering me Greenville and some points, I'd take you up on it. ;)
If the UMAC were to pull off two wins this weekend, I suspect the league would consider that a success.
UNW beats Concordia Wisconsin 26-10. Both offenses were able to move the ball and pick up some big plays, but both defenses were able to make stops when they needed to and UNW made more stops. Great game! And nice to see a UMAC school going up against a more evenly matched opponent.
Week 3 picks
Martin Luther @ Augsburg
We saw how Augsburg handled UNW. I think that Augsburg wins this game.
Greenville @ Manchester
After last week, I think that Greenville collects themselves and gets a good win on the road.
Crown @ St. Scholastica
The Saints and the Polars battle this week, I think that the Saints win this one.
Wisconsin River Falls @ University of Northwestern
I think that River Falls wins pretty easily this week. The Eagles will battle hard but River Falls is a very good team.
Carleton @ University of Minnesota Morris
The Cougars continue a difficult non-conference slate with a game against Carleton this weekend. I do not think this game will be very close, but war damn the Cougars!!
Week 4 picks
Northwestern @ Hope
Austin @ Crown
Minnesota Morris @ Lawrence
Adrian @ Greenville
Westminster @ Lyon
Big upset for GU.
GU - 45
Adrain - 35
GU - 45 (511 total yards)
Adrain - 35 (260 total yards
From the better late than never category:
Week 1 Team of the Week
Special Teams:
RET Quintral Clay, Fr., Greenville
On the first play of his college career Clay returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown. He had two Kick Returns on the day returning the opening kickoff for a touchdown and returning his second kickoff out past the 40-yard line.
Quintral has played in 3 of GUs 4 games. He has returned 5 kicks for a stunning average of 51.6 yards a return. He has 2 TDs - one from 95 and one from 100. He did not play week 4 in the win over Adrain.
Week 5 Picks
Westminster @ Crown
University of Minnesota Morris @ Greenville
This is a huge game for both teams, I personally think that this is the two top teams in the UMAC.
Northwestern @ Martin Luther
Quote from: Masfootball41 on September 27, 2023, 11:19:06 AM
Week 5 Picks
Westminster @ Crown
University of Minnesota Morris @ Greenville
This is a huge game for both teams, I personally think that this is the two top teams in the UMAC.
[I totally agree. Seems a kin to having a conference championship game in week 1 of the UMAC schedule.]
Northwestern @ Martin Luther
Quote from: GU1999 on September 28, 2023, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: Masfootball41 on September 27, 2023, 11:19:06 AM
Week 5 Picks
Westminster @ Crown
University of Minnesota Morris @ Greenville
This is a huge game for both teams, I personally think that this is the two top teams in the UMAC.
[I totally agree. Seems a kin to having a conference championship game in week 1 of the UMAC schedule.]
Northwestern @ Martin Luther
I think that this game will absolutely be a shoot out. I think if Morris can shut down the run and force the QB to throw then it will be a very very good game. If they cannot shut down the run, I fear that the game will get out of hand fast.
https://d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net/d/m/2qbsvadoogw56g/fbrecordbook.pdf
Hot off the presses. GU has put together a football record book. And, as of last week, Paul Garret is now the all-time career rushing leader.
The UMM defeat of GU was a painful game to watch. So many penalties and sloppy and careless plays, really for both teams. A pretty ugly one in Greenville. But congratulations to UMM, they have to be the front runners for the conference title now.
On a positive note, GU alum, Nicholas Morrow is really making noise in the NFL. After 4 games Pro Football Focus has him graded as the second best LB in the NFL behind only Roquan Smith. This week alone he had 11 tackles (10 solos) 3 sacks and a forced fumble. Way to represent GU and d3 Nick!!!
Quote from: GU1999 on October 03, 2023, 12:30:46 PM
The UMM defeat of GU was a painful game to watch. So many penalties and sloppy and careless plays, really for both teams. A pretty ugly one in Greenville. But congratulations to UMM, they have to be the front runners for the conference title now.
On a positive note, GU alum, Nicholas Morrow is really making noise in the NFL. After 4 games Pro Football Focus has him graded as the second best LB in the NFL behind only Roquan Smith. This week alone he had 11 tackles (10 solos) 3 sacks and a forced fumble. Way to represent GU and d3 Nick!!!
Love following Nicholas, but did it have to be the Eagles?
Watching this UNW vs Greenville game is a disgrace to the UMAC. This officiating crew is awful. They never know where to spot the ball. The Umpire stands over the ball until everyone is lined up and has misspotted the ball multiple times. They have to talk for about 5 minutes before calling a penalty every time. Also the announcer sounds like he didn't even look at the rosters going into this game. He's mispronouncing names and calling players the wrong names consistently. All this makes this game nearly impossible to watch.
Not like there are any Cougar fans here, but congrats to UMM! My sister is an alum (I almost said she's a cougar :D), so I texted her about their win. She couldn't believe it.
UM-Morris gets sent to UW-La Crosse for the opening round. Gonna be a tough climb for the Cougs to bring the UMAC their first playoff win. Always hope the UMAC can finally break through but they are in the same position that the NACC has been in for years. Having to prove their mettle against programs geared for a deep run.
Definitely a tough draw, but that's how it shakes out--probably going to get ugly in LAX.
Quote from: DuffMan on November 11, 2023, 08:52:34 PM
Not like there are any Cougar fans here, but congrats to UMM! My sister is an alum (I almost said she's a cougar :D), so I texted her about their win. She couldn't believe it.
Former Cougar football player here. The Cougs had 310 rushing yards on the day between their two great backs. ( Boss was all region last year) First conference win since 2006 and first playoff birth since the 1980's. The Cougars have battled their way from the basement of the UMAC to the very top. Coach Hoffman is building something special in Morris, MN.
Pretty wild ride over the decades for Morris. I saw them tie SJU in 1976 ... the first NCAA title year. Years later, when I lived Duluth, they were D2 briefly and played one of the Malosky UMD powerhouses.
One odd note: there was a Grant kid on both opposing teams, Mike at SJU, and the late Bruce, a very good UMD QB.
The Morris coach in the early '80s was Jim Lind, who started at Bethel as a player, joined the Navy and finished at Bemidji State. He also was briefly DC at SJU and ended up in the NFL.
Long time UNW offensive coordinator Bryan Johnson has announced his retirement after 29 years at UNW.
https://unweagles.com/news/2023/12/18/coach-johnson-announces-retirement-from-unw-football-coaching-staff.aspx
UMAC goes 4-2 on opening weekend? How unUMAC like.
MN - Morris wins on a go ahead TD with less than two minutes to go to win at home 17-16 over Macalester. Hansen had Macalester as a slight favorite.
Martin Luther Slaps Lawrence 35-7. 28 point margin for the home team was 10 more than Hansen predicted.
Westminster dominates 23-3 over Manchester. This was a serious upset as Hansen had them as a 6 point dog.
Greenville whips Concordia-Chicago 54-23 on opening day for GUs new football facility. GU far exceeded the spread projection of -7.6. GUs freshman QB went off throwing for 245 and 2 TDs and running for 171 and 4 more TDs.
St. Olaf beat Northwestern by 18 which was right in line with Hansen's 17.7 line. Hamline beat Crown by 21 which was also right on Hansen's number of 20.9.
New facility? Do tell!
Here is an engineering article from the time the project was launched. The project, while not totally complete, will be done very soon. During the football broadcast Dr. Faulkner kept referring to new facilities, how nice the concourse was, etc.
https://www.prairieengineers.com/pages/58156e963a7545369fc37c8ef276a5c3
This is going to be great for Football and Baseball. Baseball, a close geographic neighbor to football, has done a gut rehab of their facilities, new turf, new dugouts, bullpens, etc. https://www.instagram.com/gupanthers/p/C_npQTuunay/?img_index=1
In addition, a baseball museum was put in to house the baseball collection of the recently deceased, former President of GU and former President of USA Baseball and World Baseball Association, Dr. Robert "Ish" Smith. https://www.usabaseball.com/news/usa-baseball-mourns-the-passing-of-robert-ish-smith
Lastly, the school also built a new 240 student dorm which has a good size workout space although I don't know how much (if at all) this will be used by football.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-tUEhsONJs/
5 road games for the UMAC this week. Only one favorite with GU looking to knock off a second NACC opponent.
Week 2
GU (-8) at Eureka - I'll take GU and the points.
UM-M (+6) at Hamline - UM-M to cover.
Westminster (+25) at Sewanee - Westmin to cover.
Martin Luther (+10) at Macalester - ML will win outright.
Crown (+25) at Simpson - Crown will not cover.
Bethel (-48) at Northwestern (MN) - Northwestern will be lucky if Bethel takes their foot off the gas and not win by 60. Simpson to cover the 48.
Quote from: GU1999 on September 11, 2024, 04:08:57 PM5 road games for the UMAC this week. Only one favorite with GU looking to knock off a second NACC opponent.
Week 2
GU (-8) at Eureka - I'll take GU and the points. [Cover. GU wins by 20]
UM-M (+6) at Hamline - UM-M to cover. [UM-M covered -5]
Westminster (+25) at Sewanee - Westmin to cover. [did not cover]
Martin Luther (+10) at Macalester - ML will win outright. [ML does indeed win outright 10-7]
Crown (+25) at Simpson - Crown will not cover. [Crown does not cover. Loses by 38]
Bethel (-48) at Northwestern (MN) - Northwestern will be lucky if Bethel takes their foot off the gas and not win by 60. Bethel to cover the 48.
Bethel was indeed generous to Northwestern. After scoring to make it 49-0 with 11+ minutes left in the third, they did not score for the rest of the game and won 49-3, thereby not covering.
Pretty safe to say that I killed it last week. And the fact that approximately zero people read the UMAC board empowers me to say just that.
Here we go for my second week trying to predict week #3. Into the vast UMAC void I do prognosticate...
My GU Panthers giving up 55.5 to UW-RF (@ UWRF). I think that GU covers, but arely. something like 63-10.
Stout (-39.4) hosting Northwestern. Give me Stout to cover. Stout 54-6.
Westmin hosting William Woods (-5.6) Give me Woods to cover. Woods 31-20.
Martin Luther hosts Augsburg (-17.5) ML keeps this one close but loses. 28-24.
Crown hosts St. Scolastica (-13) Crown also keeps it close but loses 24-13
UM-M goes to Carleton (-24.9) and get WAXED. Give me Carleton by 42. 48-6.
- Off Week -
Obligatory Nicholas Morrow (GU '17) wins the Superbowl as an Eagles LB (primarily playing special teams).
James Gladstone (WestMO) tabbed as GM of the Jaguars.